discord-bots

[slate swan]

Send me link pls :(

[crystal glen]

I have a role that overwrites it...

[silk fulcrum]

ctx.guild.default_role

[vocal snow]

!d discord

[unkempt canyon]

discord

In order to work with the library and the Discord API in general, we must first create a Discord Bot account.

Creating a Bot account is a pretty straightforward process.

Similar names: disnake.discord, nextcord.discord

[silk fulcrum]

waht?

[crystal glen]

I just want to do it for every role, How do I do it

[slate swan]

Docs: https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
GitHub: https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py
Frequently Asked Questions: https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/faq.html
Learning Guide: https://pythondiscord.com/pages/resources/guides/discordpy/
D.py Discord: discord.gg/dpy

[slate swan]

OK SIR

[vocal snow]

:(

[slate swan]

f

[crystal glen]

ok just leave it

[unkempt canyon]

discord.TextChannel.edit

await edit(*, reason=None, **options)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Edits the channel.

You must have the [`manage_channels`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Permissions.manage_channels "discord.Permissions.manage_channels") permission to use this.

Changed in version 1.3: The `overwrites` keyword-only parameter was added.

Changed in version 1.4: The `type` keyword-only parameter was added.

Changed in version 2.0: Edits are no longer in-place, the newly edited channel is returned instead...

[silk fulcrum]

that's a hundred percent a text channel

or not

[zealous jay]

Best way to charge for premium commands?

[slate swan]

it returns all the channels of the guild whether a text, voice, news, stage, forum channel, text_channels will return the text channels

[zealous jay]

I guess it can be done with patreon but there may be better alternatives

[slate swan]

there's no way imo, what you would charge for would have been already provided by some other application for no cost

but yeah patreon would be okay if you do have them

[zealous jay]

im asking 🤷‍♂️

[silk fulcrum]

MEE6: yes:)

[zealous jay]

i mean most bots have premium features

if not all of them

[silk fulcrum]

most big* bots

[zealous jay]

yeah was about to say that

[slate swan]

premium

master could make them within 2 minutes

[vocal snow]

No way people are getting paid for this stuff

[sick birch]

You can create a website with Discord Oauth2 & Stripe API, and save premium users in a database

[slate swan]

common people are getting fooled

[vocal snow]

Scammed

[zealous jay]

yeah but how would I process payments? I guess its not that hard but Im more worried about user's security

[sick birch]

Stripe will process payments

[zealous jay]

I'll investigate

thanks

[zealous jay]

wtf

[vocal snow]

If you have the student dev pack you get some stripe benefits

[zealous jay]

well the commands im planning on making will give you access to a database with bans

[vocal snow]

No transaction fees for first 1000$ or something

[zealous jay]

like, check where x user is banned and stuff like that, and the bot has already gathered quite a few bans from 230+ servers

[zealous jay]

oh that's useful, thanks

[crystal glen]

how do I add error message, For example if a command is wrong or missing arguments, any error, Should ctx.send(error)

[sick birch]

Add an error handler, and check for specific types of errors

[crystal glen]

It should just send the error, So it doesn't need to check

[sick birch]

Right, but different errors will have different error messages

[zealous jay]

I would use the bot's docs command but I don't remember how its called

[crystal glen]

Okay how do I do that?

[sick birch]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/commands.html#error-handling

A global, dynamic error handler is preferred

[slate swan]

you say that when you have nitro

[silk fulcrum]

Now I can code my bot in absolute safety, I have a guardian

okimii, hey!

[slate swan]

give me that editor

[slate swan]

hey master👋

[crystal glen]

But this is for the info command, How do I make it global?

[slate swan]

gifted nitro doesn't require money plus I never asked for one

[silk fulcrum]

copyright

[slate swan]

ash simps paying for ashs nitro smh

smh

nobody, literally nobody does, why you gotta even say that

[slate swan]

cute fat cat

[sick birch]

Use the on_error event

[silk fulcrum]

yeah... 7 frkin' kilos, I can barely hold him

[slate swan]

chuncky🙀

[silk fulcrum]

lmao

[slate swan]

even that is only for events 😔

[sick birch]

Ah that's an event error handler

It was.. on_command_error?

[shrewd apex]

7 kilos hmm that's a lot

[slate swan]

yeah but that's again only for commands

[sick birch]

Which is what they want, I suppose

[silk fulcrum]

I guess I overfed him :XD:

[shrewd apex]

i always found background image it's tough to see the code the transperency kills me

[crystal glen]

@client.event
async def on_command_error(ctx, error):
    await ctx.message.delete()
    if isinstance(error, commands.CommandNotFound):
        await ctx.send(f'Command not found. Type ?help for a list of commands.')
    elif isinstance(error, commands.MissingRequiredArgument):
        await ctx.send(f'Missing required argument. Type ?help for a list of commands.')
    elif isinstance(error, commands.MissingPermissions):
        await ctx.send(f'You do not have permission to use this command.')
    else:
        await ctx.send(f'An error has occurred. Type ?help for a list of commands.')

lmao

I love github co-pilot

[silk fulcrum]

yeah, same, I'm choosing to leave it or to backup to the older one

[sick birch]

Yeah that's pretty much good

[slate swan]

that's so bad, ew

[sick birch]

Except the else part

[silk fulcrum]

okimii: then gimme that bg

[shrewd apex]

err i tried co pilot but it dosent suit my task it always gives code suggestions i don't need and then i switched it off

[slate swan]

yeah raise the error in that else block

[sick birch]

You should also use the traceback library to print the exception traceback to your console

[crystal glen]

The other person is saying it's bad.

[shrewd apex]

her standards are a bit high

u can go with what u are doing

just remember to dm urself the traceback

[sick birch]

For the most part it's good... the else is obviously wrong. it could be improved a little bit. E.g commands.MissingRequiredArgument has an attribute that says which argument was missing, so you can provide more detailed error messages depending on the command

[shrewd apex]

dm or print or send in a channel

[crystal glen]

Good idea

[slate swan]

send me that cat through the mail ill take care of him😳

he will be a box with a fragile sticker on him

[shrewd apex]

he won't fit in mail u go pick it up personally

[slate swan]

he can fit in a box😳

[silk fulcrum]

no, me is keeping him that fat, you dont know the recepie, also he'll be scared a lot, he lives 4 years with me

[slate swan]

!ot

[unkempt canyon]

Off-topic channel: #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare

Please read our off-topic etiquette before participating in conversations.

[slate swan]

move in with me then😉

[vocal snow]

Isn't scargly a pokemon

[silk fulcrum]

i dont know english fully( so i didnt get what does move in with me mean

[slate swan]

okimii wants to live in the same house/apartment as you

[silk fulcrum]

if yes: then it's not a cat, so we dont need to go there

[sick birch]

We have some strange conversations in the internal staff only channels, of which those OTs are born

[silk fulcrum]

ohhh

[slate swan]

[silk fulcrum]

i want that too

@slate swan come here, live with me:)

[slate swan]

✈️

[silk fulcrum]

when

[slate swan]

5hours😪

[silk fulcrum]

that's a take off time?

[slate swan]

no the whole flight🗿

[silk fulcrum]

wow that's fast

where do you live

[slate swan]

plot twist i live with you

😳

[silk fulcrum]

😳

then who are you? my mom, dad, grandma?

[final walrus]

@brazen raft

@tasks.loop()
async def streamThread(channel,users):
    stream.filter(token)

[slate swan]

who knows

[silk fulcrum]

you

[slate swan]

camelCase😔

[slate swan]

😳

[final walrus]

Even this blocks io, because the stream creates an event loop waiting for notifications in itself so I am genuinly convinced this needs to be multithreaded

Unless I don't understand the tasks.loop() decorator

[silk fulcrum]

you need seconds or minutes or hours in it i gues

[final walrus]

superiorCase

[silk fulcrum]

lowerCamelCase

[final walrus]

Well I want it to run forever though haha

[final walrus]

✅

[silk fulcrum]

while True 💀

[final walrus]

without blocking io 🙂

Roie said there was no need for multithreading and that it can be done with tasks but i don't know how

[sick birch]

It does run forever, seconds, minutes or hours is the interval between each loop

[slate swan]

the case that never gets used in python😔

[final walrus]

Is there a way for it to run forever without creating a loop, it just connects to a stream api and listens?

[sick birch]

while True loops, as long as you're yielding to the event loop inside said while True, you're not blocking I/O

discord.py internally uses a few while True loops adhering to this rule

[pliant gulch]

async def foo() -> None:
    while True:
        ...

asyncio.create_task(foo())

[brazen raft]

What is stream

[unkempt canyon]

stream v0.8

Lazily-evaluated, parallelizable pipeline.

[final walrus]

no

twitter stream api

im fetching tweets

[brazen raft]

Is the Python wrapper library for Twitter's API not asynchronous?

What library are you using for this

[final walrus]

tweepy and no it isn't *

misunderstood question

[brazen raft]

tweepy seems to have an asynchronous subpackage with an AsyncStream object

https://docs.tweepy.org/en/stable/asyncstream.html

[final walrus]

which all it does is just run in a seperate thread

which I wanted to do manually from the start p much

• that's v1

[brazen raft]

You just have to use the asynchronous tools tweepy provides

[brazen raft]

Is it unavailable for version 2?

[final walrus]

has a different client but is available i just checked

I just don't see the difference to just running it on another thread

[brazen raft]

There's also tweepy.asynchronous.AsyncStreamingClient if you can use streaming clients instead

[brazen raft]

It doesn't have to be

API (or literally all HTTP) requests can be issued and awaited with Python's async/await stuff instead of multi-threading

[shrewd apex]

aunt

[slate swan]

aunty ashy

[silk fulcrum]

uhm, I have one aunt and he does not live with me, well in same country but not even in same city

[slate swan]

while testing this is quite unique because it tasks a coroutine yes, but it runs when the code has yielded which is quite awesome imo

[shrewd apex]

he💀

[slate swan]

[slate swan]

"aunt", "he"

master has stopped working

[silk fulcrum]

that prooves that im 100000 times stupider than everyone here

[shrewd apex]

master32 playing gender bender

[brazen raft]

Maybe their s key doesn't work properly

[slate swan]

I'm dying that's so funny

[slate swan]

gender blender

[shrewd apex]

tf auto correct

[slate swan]

now we all cant type😳

[shrewd apex]

it's a feature not a bug

[slate swan]

haha

[shrewd apex]

everyone drunk here

fingering going wrong

[slate swan]

fingering-

[silk fulcrum]

iiii cant evem tyoe properly, im too laughonf/

[slate swan]

asher made it all worse

im waiting for someone to give me my breakfast in bed😔

[silk fulcrum]

wytf am i goinb french

[slate swan]

💀

[shrewd apex]

omw which style?

[silk fulcrum]

oh my gosshhh, aight gotta remember my aunts

[shrewd apex]

any preferences?👀

[silk fulcrum]

ITS MY WORK

[slate swan]

anything with you in it😳

[silk fulcrum]

she's my aunt

[slate swan]

hes my aunt🗿

[silk fulcrum]

he/she doesn't matter nnow

[shrewd apex]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-st-patricks-day-happy-st-pattys-day-luck-clovers-clover-gif-21395594

[final walrus]

couldn't this drop requests if two were queued simultaneusly?

[slate swan]

if its bare python, it would probably run 1 over the other over concurrently

[final walrus]

why is the discord-bots chat so horny

[silk fulcrum]

what did he say? i couldn't see I was laughing and crying at my pillow

[shrewd apex]

are u German?

[slate swan]

its not horny, its just full of people that are sleep drunk

[slate swan]

bro💀

[silk fulcrum]

worse

[final walrus]

sure

[brazen raft]

HTTP requests are never dropped, I think, you will be waiting forever, which will only stop the current iteration of the task and nothing else in the program (assuming you are doing it asynchronously)

[shrewd apex]

it's the second most active channel for a reason

[silk fulcrum]

at least for me

[silk fulcrum]

(reason=None)

[shrewd apex]

idk German to me is like the first language with most weird pronunciations and words

[slate swan]

you should try spanish

[silk fulcrum]

how bout russian?

[shrewd apex]

Krankenhaus

[final walrus]

isn't it very precise?

[shrewd apex]

thats hospital in german

[slate swan]

Asher es mi bebe😳

[shrewd apex]

precise my ass

i am pretty sure everyother almost all languages hospital has h in it atleast but whats krakenhaus😭

[slate swan]

kill the kraken

[silk fulcrum]

отель (otel') doesnt look weird?

[slate swan]

looks like a snail

ль

[silk fulcrum]

lmao

[slate swan]

[shrewd apex]

master i sense malice coming from u just sent a tingle down my spine👀

[slate swan]

snale isnt even a word

[final walrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801434405167169576/988864907636244510/caption.gif

[slate swan]

nail😳

[shrewd apex]

it looks like encoding gone wrong

[shrewd apex]

kitty under a lot of pressure

[slate swan]

import ctypes
```![lemon_imp](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/896148941404516352.webp?size=128 "lemon_imp")

[shrewd apex]

i was gonna use another synonym for kitty

[silk fulcrum]

you know russian was hard for me to learn, im native speaker bruh, wtf is да нет конечно (word by word trans: yes no of course)

[shrewd apex]

hmm ic 👌

[slate swan]

why does it look like little cool houses

[swift pumice]

🤔🤨🥲

[slate swan]

paint

[silk fulcrum]

lmaooo your associations are so good

[brazen raft]

It's like "Yeah, no, of course"

[swift pumice]

💀

[final walrus]

it's like "obviously not" lmao
i never thought of it

[shrewd apex]

to me it looks like someone mixed utf-8 ansii and effed up encoding and put in a food processor

[silk fulcrum]

well actualy its "Well, of course not"

[brazen raft]

You are affirming their negatively toned question by saying "of course"

[swift pumice]

no

[slate swan]

i would love to learn russian but im to lazy and i have no time

[slate swan]

💀

[swift pumice]

uh

[silk fulcrum]

удачи

[final walrus]

double negations are also a must in russian

[swift pumice]

deutsch ist eine gute sprache

🤓

[slate swan]

me with spanish:

[swift pumice]

W emoji

[silk fulcrum]

you know what? E-e

[shrewd apex]

ik Hindi and little sanskrit😔

and i also speak google translate

[silk fulcrum]

doesnt everyone speak it?

[shrewd apex]

no

[silk fulcrum]

how

[shrewd apex]

Chinese speak baidu

no Google for them

[silk fulcrum]

cyka, why

[final walrus]

WHAT if I execute a short loop in my async function and another function would get called during this outside of the loop, it would get dropped or am I just not understanding it @brazen raft

[slate swan]

i speak python, the long pauses means the indents

[swift pumice]

@shrewd apex what is your native language

[shrewd apex]

i am from West Bengal so begali hindi Sanskrit and English thats my language set

[brazen raft]

You should learn asynchronous programming in Python

[silk fulcrum]

imagine python as real lang, you'd spend your whole life to say a good sentence on exam

[shrewd apex]

i learned a bit of German in school but i forgot

[swift pumice]

oke

[final walrus]

i thought that's a javascript thing

[shrewd apex]

imagine js

[brazen raft]

It's a programming concept

[slate swan]

me

[slate swan]

print opening parenthesis quote hell world quote closing parenthesis

[silk fulcrum]

(Master32.stopped_worked === true);

[shrewd apex]

no UwU u

[swift pumice]

ok cool. würdest du aber das hier noch verstehen?

[vocal snow]

Inb4 Elias gets banned

[slate swan]

ok

[swift pumice]

😔

im sorry

[silk fulcrum]

bruh hell world is absolute true

[shrewd apex]

i don't understand

[swift pumice]

oke

[slate swan]

wasnt a bug but a feature

😤

[silk fulcrum]

bugs have copyrights

[shrewd apex]

features have patents

[silk fulcrum]

bugs: bzzzbzzz

[slate swan]

ok now

!rule 7 after all what has happened

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

7. Keep discussions relevant to the channel topic. Each channel's description tells you the topic.

[shrewd apex]

yes it was a good convo while it lasted

[slate swan]

ash mad she doesnt get a 7 kilo cat sent to her from the mail

😳

[silk fulcrum]

bruh I pressed reply and almost sent !ot but remember that i cant delete that pythons message

[silk fulcrum]

isnt that you, aunt, carrying him?

[slate swan]

🤫

[shrewd apex]

alr gn guys have fun

[silk fulcrum]

bbye

[swift pumice]

gn

[silk fulcrum]

good dreams

[slate swan]

Good night asher, dont let the bed bugs byte❤️

get it byte as in the 8 bit storage unit😳

[silk fulcrum]

my cat

[brazen raft]

@final walrus This server has a help channel (#async-and-concurrency) for this

[slate swan]

😳

[final walrus]

So if I understood it correctly, the point of asynchronous programming is to only execute one task a time, but when the program isn't doing anything (await) it will execute whatever task is next in the event loop... But isn't that exactly the opposite of what I would want with multiple objects being streamed to my 2 listener classes in real time?

[final walrus]

alright

[brazen raft]

In asynchronous programs, there is an asynchronous event loop which schedules tasks. Only one task can run at a time because computers run synchronously (at least in the same thread). What async/await in Python lets library developers do, is use asyncio.sleep in IO blocking operations such as waiting for file reads or for stream or HTTP responses, for example, so that other tasks can run (asyncio.sleep tells the scheduler to come back to this task after the given number of seconds, so the scheduler runs other tasks if any)

So, if you use tweepy.asynchronous, you will be able to use its asynchronous classes which wrap around Twitter's API asynchronously, which means the library can abstract API interactions in such a way that lets you run other tasks meanwhile an interaction waits for a response from the API

[slate swan]

[sick birch]

When the program isn't doing anything
This happens when you're waiting for I/O, since, compared to CPU-bound operation (like arithmetic, for example), I/O ops like network requests, database queries, take an eternity, or at least it seems to the computer. Lots of wasted time when it's waiting for a network task to finish, so while it's waiting on that, you can go do something else

[slim grotto]

Not related to execution, but does anyone know why my IDE throws "delete" is not a known member of "None"

@client.event
async def on_command(ctx: commands.Context) -> None:
    """
    Delete command invocations.
    """

    # Delete Command Invocation
    await ctx.message.delete()

Is it because I am using type annotations and discord.py has funky ones?

[brazen raft]

Maybe the context doesn't have a discord.Message object associated with it

[slim grotto]

I think it's because the type for ctx.message is Unknown | None according to my IDE.

[brazen raft]

Does it work at runtime, then?

[slim grotto]

Yeah it works at runtime because the type of ctx.message is only found once you send a message

The IDE can't figure it out before

How can I make it realize that it's a discord.Message? Do I just have to add # type: ignore?

[silk fulcrum]

it's Message

what version of dpy are u using?

[slim grotto]

The latest

Let me check though

[silk fulcrum]

yeah, that could fix it

[slate swan]

how can I create a status for my bot which displays the current time and updates on a new minute

just ping or dm me

[brazen raft]

Also, just saying, maybe you would want to use on_command_completion instead (https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/api.html#discord.discord.ext.commands.on_command_completion)

[slim grotto]

I want to delete the invocation before, so I have to use on_command

[brazen raft]

I like how the closing parenthesis is on the next line on my screen

[slim grotto]

Thanks though

[slate swan]

How can I create a status for my bot which displays the current time and updates on a new minute

Just ping or dm me

[silk fulcrum]

bbruh

[slim grotto]

discord.context.Context

[silk fulcrum]

ext.commands?

[brazen raft]

That's the link I got from clicking on the fancy anchor thing

[silk fulcrum]

and that's the thing you have to pass in !d command

[brazen raft]

What?

[silk fulcrum]

!d discord.discord.ext.commands.on_command_completion

[unkempt canyon]

discord.discord.ext.commands.on\_command\_completion

discord.ext.commands.on_command_completion(ctx)```
An event that is called when a command has completed its invocation.

This event is called only if the command succeeded, i.e. all checks have passed and the user input it correctly.

[brazen raft]

Weird

Interesting

[crisp thunder]

class MyView(discord.ui.View):
    def __init__(self,*args,**kwargs):
        super().__init__(*args,**kwargs)
        self.ctx = None

    async def interaction_check(self, interaction) -> bool:
        if interaction.user != self.ctx.author:
            await interaction.response.send_message(content="You are not allowed to do that!",ephemeral=True)
            return False
        else:
            return True

I am subclassing around the discord View class and I want the interaction_check to send a message and delete it after like 1-3 seconds

what is the correct approach for this?

[silk fulcrum]

sed, there is no delete_after arg. then probably the sleep way?

[brazen raft]

Does discord.InteractionResponse.send_message return anything though

It isn't documented

[crisp thunder]

it does return a coroutine

[brazen raft]

Also no delete_after is documented

[brazen raft]

Well, yes, but after you await it

[silk fulcrum]

wait ephemeral messages cant be deleted 😳

only by receiver

[brazen raft]

Does your editor show Coroutine[Any, Any, None] or does it show something else for the third type there

[crisp thunder]

oh I see thanks for enlightening

[brazen raft]

Ah ye true

[crisp thunder]

Coroutine[Any, Any, Interaction]

[silk fulcrum]

message - interaction

[brazen raft]

What

[silk fulcrum]

nothing

im jsut bein drunk

[brazen raft]

Also, it might help type hinting self.ctx = None like self.ctx: commands.Context | None = None

For example, I like the automatic suggestions

[silk fulcrum]

Optional[commands.Context] :power:

[brazen raft]

I don't like importing typing

Correction

I don't like importing unnecessary modules

[silk fulcrum]

it makes your code look 🆒

or not

but yes

[brazen raft]

Doesn't it always return a Connection

When would it not

Isn't it a getter?

Oh because you type hinted the actual thing with | None

[silk fulcrum]

when my db will be hecked and closed for using unnecsessary 7 kilo cats

[brazen raft]

I wonder how SQLite data is stored

It's a binary format so it has to be concise

[slate swan]

sqlite or aiosqlite huh

[silk fulcrum]

MySQL huh

outsmarted everyone (no one)

[slate swan]

same thing whatevah

still a blocking lib

if mysql

[silk fulcrum]

guess the owner ||spoiler: not me||

correct! okimii

[final walrus]

@brazen raft I got it to work thanks to you

[brazen raft]

I am glad I helped

[final walrus]

Appreciated, allthough it feels like with craft or something

And it seems not to drop anything, just delays it by queueing it which is great

[silk fulcrum]

wth, do I really have to do isinstance(message.reference.resolved, DeletedReferencedMessage) to check if message is deleted? There must some other way, right?

it is absolutely possible

also people are lazy, there are audit logs

[brazen raft]

It's supposedly convenient, and it's for deleted referenced messages only

[silk fulcrum]

well pretty enough

[slate swan]

👁️👁️

[silk fulcrum]

are u always watching for me?

[slate swan]

im always watching

[silk fulcrum]

but you're not lemon

and also i didnt ping you or him

[slate swan]

I am the Watcher. I observe all that transpires here. And I do not, can not, will not interfere 😳

[brazen raft]

cannot*

can not means something else

[silk fulcrum]

vocobalaru

[slate swan]

thats how the quote goes mr dc fan

😡

[brazen raft]

What quote

[slate swan]

bro

the watchers quote, from marvel🗿

[brazen raft]

Is it a movie? I know nothing about Marvel's comics and I also haven't watched every Marvel movie obviously

[slate swan]

[slate swan]

How can I create a status for my bot which displays the current time and updates on a new minute

Just ping or dm me

[silk fulcrum]

there is no built in logging system, you should make it yourself, and the channel is just a property to where send logging messages, you can store in db or in a json file

[slate swan]

why json files smh

dont give me an assy reason about it being easy to use

[silk fulcrum]

i am not, it's just an option and so I listed it, I don't like it either

[slate swan]

why would you state anyways, that's not a good practice too

[vale wing]

@slate swan remember about my 3am idea about nerd bot

[slate swan]

yeah I do, it's 3 am ?

[vale wing]

No

[slate swan]

got some nerdy idea?

[brazen raft]

It depends on the kind of data. It's better to use a database if you mean to be storing user data

[slate swan]

I know.....?

[vale wing]

Yes 🤓

It's really philosophic

[slate swan]

I'm.......I'm speechless

[silk fulcrum]

wowww, can you give it to me pls, I want this satisfaction

[brazen raft]

Oh god

[vale wing]

What he means

[brazen raft]

Now you've got me

[vale wing]

Meaning of life is everything

[silk fulcrum]

he has outsmarted me 1401 times

[slate swan]

I'd actually be annoyed by the responses already

[slate swan]

sus

[silk fulcrum]

what is sus

[vale wing]

It's encouraging members to break rules ig I will have to ban it

[slate swan]

I want some help with discord-ext-menus

[marsh mulch]

Amazing

[quaint epoch]

They're hard to use

[silk fulcrum]

d = {'yes': 'no'}
print(d['yes'])

[slate swan]

How can I create a status for my bot which displays the current time and updates on a new minute

Just ping or dm me

Like in the image shown below :

[austere vale]

is it possible to make your bot so that if someone tries to use a command in a channel that isnt in the bot channels, the bot simply doesnt respond at all? instead of saying something like "you're not in the right channel"

@bot.check
async def is_in_bot_channel(ctx: commands.Context) -> bool:
  return ctx.channel.id in (#insert channel ids here)

[vale wing]

When the check fails the commands.CheckFailure is raised, ig you just gotta eat it in the error handler

[vale wing]

Personally I wouldn't recommend updating the presence every minute (there might be per-route ratelimit for that endpoint) but you can do it with the task loop

!d discord.ext.tasks.loop examples are on top

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.tasks.loop

discord.ext.tasks.loop(*, seconds=..., minutes=..., hours=..., time=..., count=None, reconnect=True)```
A decorator that schedules a task in the background for you with optional reconnect logic. The decorator returns a [`Loop`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/tasks/index.html#discord.ext.tasks.Loop "discord.ext.tasks.Loop").

[gusty shard]

is there any way to add some stuff to every command?

[slate swan]

no like not the time that the status changes like the actual current time

[gusty shard]

like giving random item on every command randomly

[slate swan]

Like in this image

[vale wing]

What exactly are you struggling with

[silk fulcrum]

on_command event

[vale wing]

Getting the time itself or updating the presence

[slate swan]

It works when I do it with listening but when I try to do it with watching it doesn’t work

[vale wing]

Could you show your code that works and the one that doesn't

[slate swan]

Sure later when I’m on pc

[flat solstice]

Okay so two questions
1) When using app_commands.check should I use it as a common check or use the deco implementation? Is there any benefit to doing it either way? https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html?highlight=check#discord.app_commands.check
2) so ik discord.AppCommandOptionType.attachment exists but how do I use that in a app_command command? https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.AppCommandOptionType.attachment

[silk fulcrum]

wait but how do I check if the message is deleted?

[brazen raft]

Might want to look into on_command_completion event if you want this to happen after successful commands only, or on_command for when a command is invoked

[brazen raft]

You use what you have shown. For normal messages, you fetch and get discord.NotFound

[vale wing]

As for first it's only your convenience, those two methods are functionally the same

[silk fulcrum]

oh wait im super dumbass

all that time i could've just used try, and i wanted to check the deletness of message

[vale wing]

But with own decorator you can parse some stuff into the function unlike with the @commands.check

I mean sort of a decorator argument

[gusty shard]

i will make some researchs

thank you

[flat solstice]

oh cool. and I found an answer for my second question

[vale wing]

Nice

How could I even recommend this to someone wtf

[slate swan]

what a cool emoji :D

[gusty shard]

thanks

[slate swan]

❤️

[flat solstice]

Do Discord App and Bot names have limits on how long they can be?

[glad cradle]

the Bot can have a name of max len 32

[flat solstice]

thank you

[slate swan]

how can i fix this

[full lily]

it means you used emulator before it was defined

[dry kelp]

sorry what's wrong with my models again

[austere vale]

  @commands.Cog.listener()
  async def on_message_delete(self, message):
    async for entry in message.guild.audit_logs(action=nextcord.AuditLogAction.message_delete,limit=1):
      embed=nextcord.Embed(title="Message delete", description= f"Deleted by {entry.user.mention} in {message.channel.mention}\nMessage: {message.content}\nMessage author: {message.author.mention}",color=0xfd9fa1, timestamp=datetime.datetime.utcnow())    
        await self.bot.get_channel(933978399280599080).send( embed=embed)

can someone help me with my audit log line? Im trying to correctly return entry.user for who deleted the message, but sometimes it doesnt work and returns the wrong person

[sick birch]

Audit log is unreliable, especially for message deletes. You're just gonna have to deal with it

[austere vale]

ahh so no fix?

[dry kelp]

@sick birch could u check this?

NAME_HEX_MAP: Final[Mapping[str, int]] = {color['name']: int(color['hex'][1:], base=16) for color in RAW_COLOR_MAP.values()}
COLOUR_NAMES: Final[list[str]] = list(NAME_HEX_MAP.keys())


def color_autocomplete(ctx: discord.AutocompleteContext):
    return sorted(color for color in COLOUR_NAMES if color.lower().startswith(ctx.value.lower()))[:25]


class ColourNameConverter(Converter[discord.Colour]):
    async def convert(self, ctx: Context, argument: str) -> discord.Colour:
        try:
            return discord.Color(value=NAME_HEX_MAP[argument])
        except KeyError:
            raise BadColourArgument(argument)

it just raises the keyerror

[sick birch]

Not really, no

[calm ridge]

there is no error for this code but the bot doesnt do anything

https://hastebin.com/qineceguza.py

[sick birch]

Probably got an IndexError then

[flat solstice]

So I have a slash command which takes a attachment input and sends it in a embed but I also want this command to send a modal.
This model will create a embed with all of the values from the modal and I also want it to add the attachment to the embed.
Is there a way for me to pass the attachment through to the model to access in the on_submit or should I use return statements in the on_submit and on_error funcs of the model and construct the embed in the command func?

Some ppl over on dpy suggested using the init to pass the attachment object in, Whilst I have used init and super init a few times now they still confuse me when writing them to start with.
Is there anything inherently wrong with doing this:

should I use return statements in the on_submit and on_error funcs of the model and construct the embed in the command func?

[slate swan]

discord.errors.NotFound: 404 Not Found (error code: 10062): Unknown interaction does someone know why this happens?

It happens when i click sometimes the button

The strange part is that happens when i run the from vps host

When I run the bot from the pc, it doesnt throw that error

And it happens for all the buttons that i have

[calm ridge]

is there anyway to fix that?

[sick birch]

Remove the try/except and see if you get any errors

[calm ridge]

https://hastebin.com/roxubedica.py

still does nothing

thats super weird

[sick birch]

What channel are you calling the test command in?

[calm ridge]

in success

[sick birch]

What version are you using? I'm seeing an obvious problem but it's strange you're not getting any errors

[calm ridge]

of discord.py

[sick birch]

Right

[hushed galleon]

it wouldnt necessarily error if you use an event name that doesnt exist

[sick birch]

I'm talking about sent_msg = await ctx.send_message(ctx.channel, embed=embed)

Maybe in an older version it's called send_message?

[calm ridge]

yes this code is quite old

[sick birch]

And ctx.add_reaction

[hushed galleon]

a lot has changed since their legacy version

[flat solstice]

Are you responding to persistent view buttons i.e ones you've sent once and just click without resending each time you restart the bot? Could be the bot running on the VPS doesn't have the persistent view session data. That is mostly a guess so feel free to correct me if I get any parts wrong

[hushed galleon]

whats even defining bot?

[sick birch]

Oh yeah bot isn't used either

Whoever wrote this code doesn't seem to know what they're doing

You did say earlier that you got it from github?

[flat solstice]

I think send_message is still a thing, most ppl just prefer the shortened send method

[sick birch]

I'd suggest you try to re-write it yourself

[sick birch]

It's not showing up in the docs, might be an alias or something

[calm ridge]

yes i did

[hushed galleon]

there's two existences of send_message, one is Client.send_message which is legacy (does not exist now), and the other is InteractionResponse.send_message which is in dpy 2.0 / forks

[flat solstice]

👍

[sick birch]

Here it's just commands.Context.send_message which I'm not even sure was a thing in legacy?

I'm trying to access the legacy docs but it's hard to navigate lol

[slate swan]

If i click once and the bot throws the error and wait some seconds and click again the button , ill not get an error

[sick birch]

I don't even know if the ext.commands extension was a thing then

[hushed galleon]

that error can occur if your bot takes too long to respond to the interaction (>3s), and since you said its less frequent on your PC, it might mean an issue related to your VPS is slowing it down too much

[slate swan]

hmmm..Is this fixable?

by changing the code

[hushed galleon]

if your code is potentially slow sure, you could start with a defer() so you dont have the 3 second limit

[slate swan]

so

await interaction.response.defer()

and then the await interaction.response.send_message()

[hushed galleon]

your response afterwards would need to use the .followup webhook

[slate swan]

How i can use that?

[hushed galleon]

though id test with a plain send_message('hello world') to see if rewriting your code would even do anything

[slate swan]

No i mean the followup

is this import?

[hushed galleon]

its an attribute of Interaction

!d discord.Interaction.followup

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Interaction.followup

Returns the follow up webhook for follow up interactions.

[hushed galleon]

you'd use it like a normal webhook, i.e. Webhook.send(...)

[slate swan]

Do I need webhook url?

[hushed galleon]

the interaction already has the url set for you

[slate swan]

oh ok

and the import is import Webhook

[flat solstice]

Should just be interaction.followup.send("Hello World") i think based on what gamecracks said, I've personally never used it

[hushed galleon]

yeah thats what i meant by the .followup attribute part...

[slate swan]

await interaction.response.defer() 
await interaction.followup.send(f"**test**")```

Is this ok?

[calm ridge]

can someone help me with this indentation

[flat solstice]

That looks right, are you getting any errors?

[slate swan]

No its ok but for some reason it replies slow

I mean it replies after 2-3 seconds

[calm ridge]

https://hastebin.com/avupewapen.py

[slate swan]

and this happens sometimes again

not every time

Sometimes replies with good speed 😂

[flat solstice]

What's wrong with the indentation? Any particular line(s) causing issues?

[slate swan]

What's wrong exactly

[verbal junco]

guys, how i can make commands run only in a specific server?

[wicked atlas]

Looks fine to me, except for the missing code under the if statment on line 30

[slate swan]

you could make a list of guild id's then on the command check if the command is being invoked from one of the guild id's

[wicked atlas]

and maybe a few other little things...

[verbal junco]

mmm

sure

i'll search for this invoke guild check

[slate swan]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html?highlight=checks#discord.ext.commands.Command.checks

[verbal junco]

tyy

another thing

[slate swan]

IDS= ["id1", "id2"]

def is_in_server_list(server_list):
    def predicate(ctx):
        return ctx.message.server.id in server_list
    return commands.check(predicate)

@bot.command()
@is_in_server_list(IDS)
async def dosomething(ctx) -> None:
      # command here

something like that probably.

[verbal junco]

"cog" is the better way to put my commands in other folder and call in my main?

[verbal junco]

thanks so much

[slate swan]

try it out

[calm ridge]

im getting this error

[slate swan]

well what is the actual code for that line?

[flat solstice]

Not sure but there might be a white space on that line which could do with being removed. If its the line between the for and if statements

[sick birch]

@client.event
async def test(ctx):
    global api
    if str(ctx.channel.name) == "success": #Set channel name it is viewing

guessing this is what it is

You have an empty if statement

If the channel name is "success", then what?

[slate swan]

Oh yeah

[indigo pilot]

Did i do something wrong? Or why isnt the if statement running lol
https://i.leaked-your.info/XN6SN1b3
https://femboi.best/5QipZlrc

When i print user premium guilds, its there https://i.leaked-your.info/6FX8C8vR

[sick birch]

The guild IDs are strings in your JSON

server.id is an integer

!e print(12345 == "12345") # this is what's going on here

[unkempt canyon]

@sick birch :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

False

[indigo pilot]

wait oh, it looks like its a int in compass, oooops

tyty

[smoky cedar]

Can you make an ephemeral message not ephemeral after already sending?

Sorry pal, this was not a response to you

[fading marlin]

unless you send the exact same message in a non-ephemeral way, no

have you synced your tree?

[smoky cedar]

Gotcha, are you able to auto-dismiss or delete a ephemeral message, or does the user have to do it?

[fading marlin]

the user has to delete the ephemeral

[vale cape]

Is there anyway to restrict command use/visibility to role-specific users?

[torn sail]

For slash commands or message commands?

[vale cape]

slash commands

[torn sail]

!d discord.app_commands.checks.has_role

[unkempt canyon]

discord.app\_commands.checks.has\_role

@discord.app_commands.checks.has_role(item, /)```
A [`check()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.app_commands.check "discord.app_commands.check") that is added that checks if the member invoking the command has the role specified via the name or ID specified.

If a string is specified, you must give the exact name of the role, including caps and spelling.

If an integer is specified, you must give the exact snowflake ID of the role.

This check raises one of two special exceptions, [`MissingRole`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.app_commands.MissingRole "discord.app_commands.MissingRole") if the user is missing a role, or [`NoPrivateMessage`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.app_commands.NoPrivateMessage "discord.app_commands.NoPrivateMessage") if it is used in a private message. Both inherit from [`CheckFailure`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.app_commands.CheckFailure "discord.app_commands.CheckFailure").

New in version 2.0...

[torn sail]

Won’t show in ui tho

Just discord.py thing

[vale cape]

Appreciate you Master man

[torn sail]

👍

[jovial plover]

How can i get ctx.content of a Webhook

Appreciate any help please

[sick birch]

Are you syncing?

The only thing I am doing is making a request to an API
@slender hamlet what request are you making and to what endpoint?

[scenic badge]

Anyone wanna make a discord bot together?

[slate swan]

You want to get the webhook content?

[jovial plover]

Yes

[slate swan]

you probably just get the message object and get the content of it

[silk fulcrum]

yt tutorials are bad for dpy

lomao

so no errors? you just run command and it does nothing right?

wait why the hell would you name the function self? I mean.. it probably won't affect but why not just name it stats or _stats?

Also.. I don't really get what does self.synced do, because in docs Client does not have this attr, but I did not use slash commands so probably it matters

[shrewd apex]

there is nothing called self.synced its a custom attr

and also use a setup hook dont that in on_ready

https://gist.github.com/Ash-02014/b6f57065f394b54f43666037ade38d32

[silk fulcrum]

u are in the guild with id that you set in command right?

[cold tide]

@bot.command()
async def roll(ctx):
    embed=discord.Embed()
    embed=discord.Embed(title=f"{ctx.author} just rolled a ",description=(random.randint(10,1000)),color=0FF00)

Why wont it run?

Oh.

[silk fulcrum]

why would you create embed var and recreate it on the next line?

[cold tide]

idk 😭

is that the issue??

[silk fulcrum]

probably not

[cold tide]

Shouldnt be.

i always do that

[silk fulcrum]

also in description= you put your randint into brackets

there is not reason to do that

[cold tide]

Oh

[silk fulcrum]

description=random.randint(10,1000)

and your color code looks weird

[cold tide]

Still a error

[silk fulcrum]

what error?

lmaoo

[cold tide]

Invalid syntax for the whole code i sent

[silk fulcrum]

show the error

[cold tide]

Yes.

[silk fulcrum]

it should point with ^ where is inval syntax

[cold tide]

😭

[silk fulcrum]

in code there is ( missing

right where your cursor is

[cold tide]

just did that

Still a error

[silk fulcrum]

same?

[cold tide]

Yes

Can you show me what u have

Copying urs might fix it.

[silk fulcrum]

wdym that I have?

[cold tide]

^

[eternal fox]

the closing ) ?

[silk fulcrum]

yeah also closing

oh you thought I was talking about all brackets?

[cold tide]

I did do that

[slate swan]

you forgot the x in your hexcode

[silk fulcrum]

you need to have random.randint(10, 1000)

[cold tide]

I did that

[silk fulcrum]

then this @cold tide

[cold tide]

?

[slate swan]

it would currently be undefined lol

as its not a hexcode

[cold tide]

Oh okay

[silk fulcrum]

i also saw that color is not good but i didnt think it could raise syntax inavlid

[slate swan]

it wouldnt, the brackets were raising the syntax error, what was passed to the color kwarg would just raise undefined

[silk fulcrum]

ohkay

[slate swan]

since it thinks its a var

and hey master👋

[silk fulcrum]

hey okimii 👋

[slate swan]

✌️

Hi okimii

[slate swan]

hey y9, been a while hasnt it

[slate swan]

a little while, few hours

lol

[static lintel]

hi i had a quick question: what goes in place of the 123456 and token-here

webhook.send('Hello World', username='Foo')```

[silk fulcrum]

id and token of webhook

[vocal snow]

!d discord.SyncWebhook.partial

[unkempt canyon]

discord.SyncWebhook.partial

classmethod partial(id, token, *, session=..., bot_token=None)```
Creates a partial [`Webhook`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Webhook "discord.Webhook").

[static lintel]

what is the token from tho?

wait sorry im stupid and didn't read

[silk fulcrum]

you can get webhook's url and there are id and token in it

[static lintel]

i only see the url but no id and token?

[unkempt canyon]

@silk fulcrum, looks like you posted a Discord webhook URL. Therefore, your message has been removed, and your webhook has been deleted. You can re-create it if you wish to. If you believe this was a mistake, please let us know.

[silk fulcrum]

...

i wanted to send an example

[static lintel]

is it possible to screenshot?

[slate swan]

the url has ID and token in it

[silk fulcrum]

they're inside the url

[static lintel]

how do i know which is which?

[slate swan]

discord.com/api/webhooks/id/token

[static lintel]

gotcha

tysm

[silk fulcrum]

how long should I wait for my bot's avatar to change?

[slate swan]

it's usually pretty quick for me

[shrewd apex]

umm it's instant is it not?

[shrewd apex]

sed make it leave and join again

[silk fulcrum]

ok..

[glad cradle]

could it be that you changed the avatar too many times in a short period of time?

[silk fulcrum]

the only time I changed it was when I created it

[glad cradle]

A

[silk fulcrum]

and second right now

[slate swan]

you should change it in the bot settings, not application settings

this avatar will appear while inviting the bot, not on discord

[silk fulcrum]

ohbruh

I somehow thought that bot's changes automaticly

with app's

[slate swan]

🗿 same but sometime it does, sometime it doesnt

[static lintel]

im trying to change the avatar for the webhook and when i set an image link i get this
Command raised an exception: TypeError: startswith first arg must be str or a tuple of str, not bytes

[silk fulcrum]

what's the code

or full traceback

cus you use bytes object in startswith

[static lintel]

  File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9/site-packages/discord/webhook/sync.py", line 792, in edit
    payload['avatar'] = utils._bytes_to_base64_data(avatar) if avatar is not None else None
  File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9/site-packages/discord/utils.py", line 570, in _bytes_to_base64_data
    mime = _get_mime_type_for_image(data)
  File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9/site-packages/discord/utils.py", line 556, in _get_mime_type_for_image
    if data.startswith(b'\x89\x50\x4E\x47\x0D\x0A\x1A\x0A'):
TypeError: startswith first arg must be str or a tuple of str, not bytes

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:```

[silk fulcrum]

that is the problem

b'...'

[static lintel]

?

[static lintel]

did i not set it to a string?

[silk fulcrum]

nope?

b makes it bytes

[static lintel]

ohhh so i just need to add the b in front of the string and ill be good to go?

[still swan]

hello, im getting an error TypeError: can't subtract offset-naive and offset-aware datetimes, may someone help me please?

@Cog.listener()
async def on_member_join(self, member: discord.Member) -> None:
  created_at = member.created_at
  delta = (datetime.now() - created_at).days
  print(delta)

[silk fulcrum]

I don't know what do you want to do with that startswith but the least you can do is just remove b at it'll be a string

[static lintel]

okok

[silk fulcrum]

did you do from datetime import datetime?

well anyways it's type error, not arguemnt...

[lone lichen]

You have a problem with timezones, one is timezone aware and the other is not and u cant subtract them

[silk fulcrum]

uhoh

[slate swan]

another breaking change in 2.0

[still swan]

yes

[silk fulcrum]

discord.utils.utcnow() :laom:

[still swan]

ty

[lone lichen]

discord.utils.utcnow?

[slate swan]

yeah that exists

[lone lichen]

Fair

[slate swan]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.utils.utcnow

[lone lichen]

Yea thats good since It’ s tz aware

[still swan]

now = discord.utils.utcnow()
delta = (now - created_at).days
print(delta)

its always printing 1707

i dont know why..

[slate swan]

maybe because the time difference is 1707 days

[silk fulcrum]

!e

print(1707/365.4)```

[lone lichen]

Is that syntax correct?

[still swan]

yes

[slate swan]

yeah thats basically (timedelta).days

[unkempt canyon]

@silk fulcrum :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

4.671592775041051

[still swan]

created_at = member.created_at

but the member just joined the guild

[lone lichen]

Datetime - timedelta = datetime

Not timedelta

[silk fulcrum]

created_at = account created at

not joined_at

[slate swan]

created_at is account creation
its joined_at

[still swan]

yea i want to defined if its alt account or no

[lone lichen]

Ohh ok so It’ s dt

[silk fulcrum]

ip ban :laomeo:

[lone lichen]

Try printing everything not just .days

[still swan]

okay

[still swan]

i tried different members ids

[lone lichen]

Can you send a ss of ur code

[lone lichen]

Ty

[still swan]

np xd

[lone lichen]

Print out created_at

[slate swan]

you have to add the timezone yourself iirc

[still swan]

created_at -->

[still swan]

how

[slate swan]

datetime.now(timezone.utc) I think.

[lone lichen]

They used discord.utils.utcnow

It’ s tz aware

[slate swan]

Oh that's the same?

[silk fulcrum]

Oh that's not the same

[lone lichen]

No, thats tz aware

[lone lichen]

Have accounts been created around similar time?

[slate swan]

why is the datetime library so weird

[lone lichen]

Wdym

[still swan]

no

[lone lichen]

Try putting in my id

[silk fulcrum]

Um, actually, why isn't the datetime library so good?

[slate swan]

you should rewrite it for me

[vale wing]

Um, actually, pendulum is an upgraded version of datetime library 🤓

[slate swan]

my fault 🤓

[lone lichen]

What are the upgrades

[vale wing]

!pypi pendulum

[silk fulcrum]

and it won't find you cus you're not in that guild

[unkempt canyon]

pendulum v2.1.2

Python datetimes made easy

[lone lichen]

Oh okok

[slate swan]

@still swan what is your code supposed to do

[silk fulcrum]

Um, actually, I shouldn't rewrite it for anyone

[lone lichen]

Do an acc that you know when it was created

[slate swan]

Um, actually you should

[lone lichen]

Find how long ago account was created

[silk fulcrum]

Um, actually, I should not

[silk fulcrum]

he said that he wants to check if that's an alt acc

[lone lichen]

It’ s pretty nice

[silk fulcrum]

Um actually not actually

[still swan]

I just want a code to define the alts

on_member_join

[lone lichen]

You mean self bots?

[silk fulcrum]

alt != selfbot

[lone lichen]

Cus I have alts that were created 2 years ago

[still swan]

xd..

[silk fulcrum]

these are alts

[still swan]

👀

[silk fulcrum]

wait wtf is this

[still swan]

O_O

[lone lichen]

Love this feature

[silk fulcrum]

when discord made it, i totally missed

[lone lichen]

For testing

[lone lichen]

Same

Yesterday I discovered it

[slate swan]

@still swan add .days to your delta variable

[lone lichen]

I told him to take it out for a bit so we can see the full output

[silk fulcrum]

1707 days

[slate swan]

What does discord.utils.utcnow() do exactly?

[silk fulcrum]

.

[silk fulcrum]

date in utc tz

[lone lichen]

Same as dt.now except It’ s tz aware

[slate swan]

why not use datetime.utcnow() and compare with Member.created_at

[silk fulcrum]

!d datetime.datetime.utcnow

[unkempt canyon]

datetime.datetime.utcnow

classmethod datetime.utcnow()```
Return the current UTC date and time, with [`tzinfo`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/datetime.html#datetime.datetime.tzinfo "datetime.datetime.tzinfo") `None`.

This is like [`now()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/datetime.html#datetime.datetime.now "datetime.datetime.now"), but returns the current UTC date and time, as a naive [`datetime`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/datetime.html#datetime.datetime "datetime.datetime") object. An aware current UTC datetime can be obtained by calling `datetime.now(timezone.utc)`. See also [`now()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/datetime.html#datetime.datetime.now "datetime.datetime.now").

Warning

Because naive `datetime` objects are treated by many `datetime` methods as local times, it is preferred to use aware datetimes to represent times in UTC. As such, the recommended way to create an object representing the current time in UTC is by calling `datetime.now(timezone.utc)`.

[silk fulcrum]

they're same

[slate swan]

exactly the same?

[silk fulcrum]

why not use discord.utils.utcnow?

[slate swan]

I don't know

[lone lichen]

It’ s not

[silk fulcrum]

Um actually Why it's not?

[little lava]

is there any alternative of

await ctx.send``` ?

[lone lichen]

Read the 3rd paragraph

[lone lichen]

It’ s naive

[slate swan]

message.send

[lone lichen]

datetime.now(timezone.utc) would be the same as discord.utils.utcnow

[silk fulcrum]

impossible

[silk fulcrum]

wwwtttfff

[slate swan]

what is this monstrosity

[silk fulcrum]

do you even see your code?

[little lava]

there is 2 problems

[lone lichen]

!d discord.Message.channel.send

[unkempt canyon]

Not in a million years.

No documentation found for the requested symbol.

[slate swan]

only 2

[lone lichen]

!d discord.Message

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Message

class discord.Message```
Represents a message from Discord.

x == y Checks if two messages are equal.

x != y Checks if two messages are not equal.

hash(x) Returns the message’s hash.

[silk fulcrum]

!d discord.abc.Messageable.send

[unkempt canyon]

discord.abc.Messageable.send

await send(content=None, *, tts=False, embed=None, embeds=None, file=None, files=None, stickers=None, delete_after=None, nonce=None, allowed_mentions=None, reference=None, ...)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Sends a message to the destination with the content given.

The content must be a type that can convert to a string through `str(content)`. If the content is set to `None` (the default), then the `embed` parameter must be provided.

To upload a single file, the `file` parameter should be used with a single [`File`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.File "discord.File") object. To upload multiple files, the `files` parameter should be used with a [`list`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#list "(in Python v3.10)") of [`File`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.File "discord.File") objects. **Specifying both parameters will lead to an exception**.

To upload a single embed, the `embed` parameter should be used with a single [`Embed`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Embed "discord.Embed") object. To upload multiple embeds, the `embeds` parameter should be used with a [`list`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#list "(in Python v3.10)") of [`Embed`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Embed "discord.Embed") objects. **Specifying both parameters will lead to an exception**.

[slate swan]

a bot can send stickers

[little lava]

i dont want triggers so

[lone lichen]

What do u wanna do

[silk fulcrum]

kill his code

[slate swan]

probably use utils and get the channel object

[little lava]

send offline status to the text channel

of EC2 instance

[slate swan]

will bot be used in multiple servers

[silk fulcrum]

it's not even in function

the simplest is that you cant use await

bbruh

[lone lichen]

Can you not see the 2 red underlines

[little lava]

await requires async def

[slate swan]

underlines mean code is very good

[lone lichen]

You cant await coroutines outside async function

[little lava]

i can see but i dont know how to solve it

[lone lichen]

U can do asyncio.run

[slate swan]

get the channel object and you can use .send on it after

[lone lichen]

But not just straight await …

[slate swan]

master32 is genius ask him @little lava

[silk fulcrum]

im colorblind

[lone lichen]

😂

[slate swan]

unfortunate

[silk fulcrum]

i didnt see the t

wait that's not colorblind

bruh im brainblind

[slate swan]

[lone lichen]

No worries 😂

[silk fulcrum]

aight gonna test it

should definetly work

[slate swan]

works

💯

[lone lichen]

Do you want this to check status continuously or just once

[silk fulcrum]

AHAHAHHA python is like pointing everywhere, like saying are u stupid?

[little lava]

continuously, but when status changed to "stopped"

[slate swan]

pycharm moment

[silk fulcrum]

tomorrow

[lone lichen]

Ok so you want to keep checking status until It’ s stopped

Just wanna confirm

[slate swan]

enslo code it for them

[lone lichen]

I wont spoonfeed

[silk fulcrum]

lets go

[slate swan]

you sure

[little lava]

yes correct

[slate swan]

ctx ?

[little lava]

i don't have much knowledge on coding but im trying..

[lone lichen]

So step one, press ctrl + A and then press backspace

[slate swan]

it's all good

[lone lichen]

Dw ill try and guide u

[slate swan]

they are meanies don't listen to their mean words

[little lava]

that's delete

[silk fulcrum]

im not making a selfbot for just sending that me is brainblind

[slate swan]

ctx?

[silk fulcrum]

Um actually, xtc?

[slate swan]

Um actually, tcx

[lone lichen]

Yes, that wont work, even if the await outside coroutine wouldnt be an issue, it would only check it once and stop running

[slate swan]

but thats pythons interpreter.....

[silk fulcrum]

Um actually, txc

[slate swan]

but pycharm

[slate swan]

ok

I hate pycharm

why is ther slowmode in this channel

[lone lichen]

@little lava I want you to read this https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/tasks/index.html

[slate swan]

he won't understand it if he really is new new

[lone lichen]

I think those docs are rly user friendly

[slate swan]

pycharm moment

[silk fulcrum]

y9 moment

[slate swan]

Master32 moment ;

[silk fulcrum]

Um actually, not mine

hot potato game?

[lone lichen]

Pycharm wants u to make send static or classmethod

[silk fulcrum]

idontcare

[slate swan]

that wouldn't work lol

does anyone actually use pycharm?

[lone lichen]

Me

[silk fulcrum]

i can outsmart him really easy

[slate swan]

Why

asyncio.run expects a coroutine object

[silk fulcrum]

me

[slate swan]

Why

[lone lichen]

I have pro license

[slate swan]

fair

[silk fulcrum]

um actually why not

[lone lichen]

Smart

[slate swan]

um actually VSCODE CLEARS

🤔

[silk fulcrum]

I had it too, but they removed it cus of my region(

[lone lichen]

Vscode 🤮

[slate swan]

i wanna learn how to use @tasks.loop and waht it does

[slate swan]

@slate swan can you believe this

[lone lichen]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/tasks/index.html

[slate swan]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/tasks/index.html

thanks!

😭 💀

[lone lichen]

I had it in clipboard from b4

[silk fulcrum]

um actually, why if vscode better? pycharm is specially for ptyohn

[slate swan]

stop saying um actually

[lone lichen]

Vscode is text editor with ide plugin

[slate swan]

it's getting on my nerves 😭

[silk fulcrum]

ok

[slate swan]

W

[slate swan]

not exactly, more like an ide with a text editor

Real

[lone lichen]

Also It’ s from Microsoft

[slate swan]

microsoft Is A W

bill gates can take my money

[silk fulcrum]

dont blender sublimetext and vs

or how its called

[slate swan]

@slate swan When comparing strings of same lens, are their byte sizes compared?

[lone lichen]

Nope everything they make sucks, I learned it when using windows and office 356

[slate swan]

office sucks windows I like

[lone lichen]

No but I think u gotta download some plugin for it to get ide features

[lone lichen]

I wanna punch bill gates for making windows

[silk fulcrum]

windwows is good only because EVERYTHING is wrote for it

[lone lichen]

I have to use windows in school for coding

[silk fulcrum]

every single game

[lone lichen]

Game

[slate swan]

Windows > 😄

[lone lichen]

Not bash

[slate swan]

windows != linux

[lone lichen]

Or brew

[lone lichen]

Yes also linux > windows

[silk fulcrum]

correct, windows.programming < linux.programming

[lone lichen]

Programming on windows is basically shooting yourself in the foot

And in the head

[silk fulcrum]

absolutely

[lone lichen]

Except if u do game dev

[slate swan]

!e

windows = 10
linux = 1
if windows > linux:
    print("True")

[unkempt canyon]

@slate swan :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

True

[silk fulcrum]

well it can be easier with WSL, but still not that easy as on linux

[slate swan]

[silk fulcrum]

!e py windows = -10 linux = 1 print(windows > linux)

[unkempt canyon]

@silk fulcrum :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

False

[slate swan]

lame

now oneline it

[lone lichen]

The fact that things need to exist for it to be easier makes it less easier

[slate swan]

probably not, its probably measured by unicode or something else

!e

import sys
print(sys.getsizeof("a"),  sys.getsizeof("A"))

[unkempt canyon]

@slate swan :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

50 50

[silk fulcrum]

you oneline