ot0-no-stealth-portals-please

[neat sparrow]

I have a 16gb cpu so this baby is running fast af

[jagged obsidian]

16gb ram*?

[neat sparrow]

yeah

[upper turret]

kotlin has an app designer right?

[jagged obsidian]

same

[normal harbor]

HAHAHA 16GB CPU

[jagged obsidian]

no thats android studio

[jagged obsidian]

arent u the one iwht 8gb

[upper turret]

yeye worded it wrong

[upper turret]

and thats for kotlin/java ??

[normal harbor]

i just have 12 gb ram

[oak hemlock]

Android dev in general

[upper turret]

nah

[jagged obsidian]

i dont get what the question is so yes

[oak hemlock]

am I confusing things

[jade wedge]

wait androird studio interface is same as pycharm's interface

[jagged obsidian]

its a jetbrains app

[upper turret]

ah nice

[neat sparrow]

going to bed now that I have this baby

[jagged obsidian]

or jetbrains sdk whatever

[oak hemlock]

Same with most jetbrains IDEs

[oak hemlock]

IDE

[jagged obsidian]

but it's made by google

[oak hemlock]

SDK is something else

[jagged obsidian]

yes

[jade wedge]

so its based on jetbrain ide?

[jagged obsidian]

yes

[oak hemlock]

It is a JetBrains IDE

[normal harbor]

cuz JetBrains made Android Studio's GUI for Google

[oak hemlock]

Android Studio has some collaboration with Google, though, ofc

[neat sparrow]

honestly, I might just stick with flutter

issue is that setting flutter up is a pain

[jagged obsidian]

flutter?

[normal harbor]

am i right?

[upper turret]

how so

[neat sparrow]

https://flutter.dev/

[neat sparrow]

I'm inexperienced is all

gonna learn it later

[jagged obsidian]

what if i make amogus app in flutter

would anyone use it

[neat sparrow]

cause dat boi looking good

[oak hemlock]

uh idk

[jagged obsidian]

it does look good tho

[neat sparrow]

uses dart too so I'm going to have to learn dart

[jagged obsidian]

oh yea cool dart

[normal harbor]

LIGHT THEME

[jagged obsidian]

LGHTI THEME!!!

[normal harbor]

does android developer website have a dark theme

[neat sparrow]

chill that's just how the website is

[normal harbor]

cuz my eyes r paining

[pliant canyon]

basically java and JavaScript

[neat sparrow]

ooooh it builds to ios?

damn

[upper turret]

all platforms

[pliant canyon]

that's the worst looking flutter app u can make

[neat sparrow]

fooking nice

[jagged obsidian]

e is the most used letter

[normal harbor]

does this website have a dark theme? ANDROID STUDIO

[neat sparrow]

not every site is going to have a dark theme

[jagged obsidian]

god wtf

[neat sparrow]

you can just get a web extension that darkens the site

[normal harbor]

ye si have one... called SUPER DARK THEME -by Kavyansh

[jade wedge]

I gonna learn java now

its hard

or else i can't code my app

[normal harbor]

the problem is...

[polar rose]

Thar she blows

[oak hemlock]

I thought you were literally just complaining that you hate Java... you have better options and you refuse to use them??

[jade wedge]

i hope i can code android apps in python

[jagged obsidian]

YOU CANT

or you can use kivy :p

[jade wedge]

hope

[jagged obsidian]

i thought we were still talking about android tv

[upper turret]

can

[oak hemlock]

You can use Kotlin, which will likely be a whole ton better than Java and is used a whole ton more than Java these days

[polar rose]

why does /tts exist? Someone could say something really nsfw in a big server and everyone could hear it bruh

[oak hemlock]

but you somehow still want to go for Java

[jagged obsidian]

because my impl of high score is better :pppp

ok but its because of blind ppl

[polar rose]

no u mine takes less code

[jagged obsidian]

mine is cleaner

[normal harbor]

u can idiot

[jade wedge]

well give me the koltin docs now

[polar rose]

its not clean but it takes way less code

[jagged obsidian]

readability > length

[polar rose]

shut up

[jagged obsidian]

no

[pliant canyon]

sheesh

[normal harbor]

koltin

[oak hemlock]

love Kotlin

[normal harbor]

but not koltin i guess

[jagged obsidian]

whats the book called

[neat sparrow]

kivy is pretty ass tbh

wouldn't recommend it

[normal harbor]

something wierd going... i see this button on google devs but cant click on it

[polar rose]

york

[normal harbor]

no this is true

[neat sparrow]

you know what, fuck it. I'm making my wallpaper an anime girl

[jagged obsidian]

thast pycharm not androis dtdtuion

[viral hull]

book authors trying to do weird things like "make a readable story without using the letter e" is akin to programmers doing weird things like "make a program that prints its own code out"

[jade wedge]

we can code android app in python lol

[polar rose]

nuuuuuuu

[jade wedge]

shit venv failed

[jagged obsidian]

that doesn't mean you should

[polar rose]

I like the idea of a program printing its own code

[jade wedge]

ikn but its still worth a try

[polar rose]

But wouldn't it be recursive or something

[jagged obsidian]

it only reads

not executes

[oak hemlock]

lol the Toolbox UI is huge on Windows

[viral hull]

a program that does that is called a "quine"

there are many of them.

[jagged obsidian]

lol windows haha windows

[polar rose]

idk

[polar rose]

Get vallistart

[normal harbor]

is that WINDOWS 10??

[oak hemlock]

Trust me. I wish I could stay on Linux, but NVIDIA just chooses to not work on any distribution that I have

[jagged obsidian]

11*

[oak hemlock]

Windows 11

[jagged obsidian]

POP OS WORKS ON NVIDIA AAAAAA

[oak hemlock]

What's that?

[polar rose]

11 w left icons

[normal harbor]

my pc doesnt support it

[oak hemlock]

I can practically guarantee that it will not work

[polar rose]

Rainmeter skin to replace start menu (you can still search thru and access the normal start) it looks very kewl

[jagged obsidian]

Bruh. My nvidia friend user tried pop os and its the only ne that works with bumblebee or something

[oak hemlock]

eh. idc enough about customization

[polar rose]

there's a cool vid by ntts on that

[oak hemlock]

Bumblebee is unnecessary on Ubuntu

[polar rose]

it takes like 20 mb ram

[oak hemlock]

You just install the drivers and it should work

but the problem is that I have an esoteric NVIDIA Optimus setup

[normal harbor]

Discord Canary User Found

[jagged obsidian]

OH YEA optimus not bumblebee

[oak hemlock]

ik, but like I already have everything I need

[oak hemlock]

Ubuntu automatically installs proprietary NVIDIA drivers

[normal harbor]

ru using discord canary?

[oak hemlock]

I am

[polar rose]

.

[normal harbor]

I KNEW

[jagged obsidian]

if ubuntu works on nvidia then why dont u use ubutnu

[oak hemlock]

also I hate that Pop!_OS pushes non-LTS releases first

[oak hemlock]

It doesn't work on Ubuntu, so it will not work on Pop!_OS

they use the same drivers

plus I really don't feel like supporting the antics of System76 now

did y'all see what happened when LTT installed Steam on Pop!_OS? \😩

uninstalled all of GNOME in the process

[jagged obsidian]

i didnt, what happend

What in the fucking fuck fuck

[oak hemlock]

yeah.

I'm not dealing with Pop!_OS, ever

If any distribution had any remote chance of working, it'd be Arch

[jagged obsidian]

i had steam installed on my previous pop install, nothing ahppened

[oak hemlock]

it happened to a lot of people during a span of time

[jagged obsidian]

i have to watch that video

[oak hemlock]

it's personally just funny to me

they had problems on some notoriously annoying distributions and are complaining about it

Manjaro and Pop!_OS

[jade wedge]

fuck

[normal harbor]

Gradle Daemon started in 11 s 625 msSuch a slow piece of computer x_x

[oak hemlock]

ugh

Gradle...

[viral hull]

WSL ought to work, too, if you're on Windows.

[normal harbor]

3min 10secs...

[jade wedge]

all my wsl instance corroupted but i have linux vm

[cursive agate]

sometimes i just like to watch audio visualizers when listening to music. i want to feel how each frequency plays out

[oak hemlock]

I think I can get WSL back on my computer

[cursive agate]

at least Pop!_OS have decided to make their own desktop environment.

[oak hemlock]

it is my theory that is how Pop!_OS is going to die

[cursive agate]

one day i will too xD i think there will be a point where I will resell my whole soul msft

[cursive agate]

well they sell laptops and pcs so doubt

lets just see how it plays out

[oak hemlock]

yeah Pop!_OS laptops that'll eventually only work with Pop!_OS

again, my theory \😩

[cursive agate]

thats just stupid haha. if i were the CEO i wont go on that direction

[oak hemlock]

imo it feels like they're driving a wedge between them and the rest of Linux

[cursive agate]

shroog

[oak hemlock]

and it feels like nothing more than a marketing scheme

idk but surely you notice this

idek what the goal is here but... I'm just not gonna bother

[jagged obsidian]

then more people would buy pop os laptops

[jade wedge]

using kivymd to make a window 10 app is not a good problem right?

[jagged obsidian]

idk

[oak hemlock]

lol

them driving a wedge between themselves and GNOME is not a good move imo

I have a lot more faith in the GNOME devs than the Cosmic (or whatever) devs

I'm sure Pop!_OS will eventually fall behind

[cursive agate]

i mean lets just see. we cant conclude yet. sure i guess that will happen. the only reason why they moved away from gnome is because their extensions constantly break with every gnome update

[oak hemlock]

I mean it's really not worth using Pop!_OS anyways

unless you really want a sketchy GNOME fork

other than that, there's really no merit

People cling to the old idea that Pop!_OS works better for NVIDIA drivers, but that's just untrue these days

Ubuntu and Arch AFAIK are at the top of the list

[cursive agate]

I mean Pop!_OS is just ubuntu reskin

[oak hemlock]

not just that, though

You're putting your packages in the hands of the Pop!_OS team

and this has already proven problematic

on more than just one occasion, as well

[jagged obsidian]

This is a common question to come up, and one that makes our engineers cringe. Yes, Pop!_OS has been designed with vibrant colors, a flat theme, and a clean desktop environment, but we created it to do so much more than just look pretty. (Although it does look very pretty.)
from pop os support articles

[cursive agate]

thats just proves it is a reskin

🤣

[oak hemlock]

I mean this doesn't say much of anything

[jagged obsidian]

theres more to the article

you can read if u want

[cursive agate]

but if we are talking about the extensions, sure they made it

[jade wedge]

from kivymd.app import MDApp
import requests
from kivymd.uix.button import MDRectangleFlatButton
from kivymd.uix.screen import MDScreen


class Main(MDApp):
    def build(self):
        screen = MDScreen()
        btn = MDRectangleFlatButton(text="Hello World",
                                    pos_hint={'center_x': 0.5, 'center_y': 0.5},
                                    on_release=self.do()
                                    )
        screen.add_widget(btn)
        return screen

    def do(self):
        print(requests.get("https://api.darren.ga/utils/uptime").json())

Main().run()
```Why this kept error

[oak hemlock]

I refuse to believe Pop!_OS has any advantages to Ubuntu

[cursive agate]

like pop-shell or some pop game store

[jagged obsidian]

whats the error

pop shop ig

[cursive agate]

#❓｜how-to-get-help ??

[obtuse swallow]

Hey @jade wedge!

It looks like you tried to attach a Python file - please use a code-pasting service such as https://paste.pythondiscord.com

[cursive agate]

well at least they are not manjaro. pfft

[jade wedge]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/luyudahofo.sql

[oak hemlock]

tbh people always complain about the difficulty of installing stuff on Ubuntu, but it's only really some proprietary apps that don't package

[cursive agate]

the manjaro devs havent contributed directly and just only give pain to the arch maintainers lmao

[oak hemlock]

Manjaro gives pain to their users, as well

Russian roulette whether or not something breaks 😔

[cursive agate]

and then everyone will say "because it is arch!!"

[oak hemlock]

lol

[cursive agate]

no it isnt, even if arch is bleeding edge, it is kinda funny that manjaro breaks more frequently than vanilla arch

🤣

[oak hemlock]

tbh I'm not even sure what it is that Manjaro does that everything breaks so easily... I just remember seeing reviews of some of the internal mechanisms and it not being exactly positive

[cursive agate]

because they themselves do not follow package management practices xD

[oak hemlock]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[viral hull]

something always breaks because there are a lot more different hardware configurations than there are open source developers willing and able to support drivers for those different hardware configurations.

it's the reason that Linux on the server is so much better than Linux on laptops.

[oak hemlock]

I've always had a bunch of hardware problems with Manjaro, but none of them happened on vanilla Arch

[upper turret]

wtf

[oak hemlock]

Granted, Manjaro was my first distribution but I just assumed that the problems I had were general problems

and so I was kind of amazed when I switch to other distributions and things just work flawlessly

like it was just such an experience and probably one of the better decisions I've made

[cursive agate]

for context https://rentry.co/manjaro-controversies

[cursive agate]

when i switched to vanilla arch, i havent experienced many problems at all. no forced partial upgrades/downgrades

if anything i only have a breakage of two to three times last in the first 6 months of this year

[jade wedge]

SSL certification issues
Manjaro's devs have repeatetly failed to renew their SSL certificates. First time in 2015 where they recommended users to roll back their system clocks as a workaround[3]. Second time in 2016 they recommended users to add an exception in their browser as a bypass[4].

BAD

[oak hemlock]

idk, I remember one of the Manjaro Discord people telling me that I couldn't have both my mic and my audio working at the same time

[jade wedge]

wow

[oak hemlock]

LMAO this is quite hilarious if I'm honest

what even

[jade wedge]

u should renew the cert as a dev right?

[cursive agate]

https://gist.github.com/vodik/5660494 this gist is funny xD

i see a lot of youtubers do this

xD

[oak hemlock]

it says this on right on the ArchWiki

[cursive agate]

i was like wtf why you -Sy u fuck

[oak hemlock]

I actually made an alias to ban myself from running that command

a function alias, rather

[jade wedge]

A local DoS, PrivEsc vulnerability[8] was found in their bash script.

More dangerous

[cursive agate]

lmao

openSUSE TW is just chef's kiss. Manjaro is like eh..

[oak hemlock]

sad openSUSE doesn't have good NVIDIA drivers in their repos

[cursive agate]

imma make myself clear, i dont have any tribalism or wahtever, im just complaining. idc what distro you use to anyone who reads this xD

[cursive agate]

:(( but how did i make it work on mine...

[oak hemlock]

you probably don't have NVIDIA Optimus

[cursive agate]

i do

[jade wedge]

Dodgy miscellaneous stuff
The system update script runs rm on the lockfile mid-transaction[7]. The script also runs pacman -Q | grep when pacman already natively supports querying for packages.

A local DoS, PrivEsc vulnerability[8] was found in their bash script.

Their Linux module ran rm on the modules directory[9].

Manjaro fakes their distrowatch score with bots[2][10].

Often suggests users to redownload the entire pacman database when that should only be done when having a corrupted pacman database[14].

WHAT delete lockfile mid transaction the dev don't know its bad to do that?

[oak hemlock]

idk, it just wasn't working for me at all ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I had t o install manually

[cursive agate]

hmm i guess that is because i have to configure optimus manuallly in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/

i mean yeah

[oak hemlock]

Wayland gang

[hearty prawn]

nice

[jagged obsidian]

x

[cursive agate]

well lets see on the next nvidia release. GBM support is wife

*life i mean

[jagged obsidian]

gbm support is wife tho

[hearty prawn]

someone just gave me the "imagine having friends [my irl name]"

[cursive agate]

:D yeah it is funny. and users feel the pain in the end lol

[hearty prawn]

that does remind me, i have no friends

i'd rather not make any tbh

[jade wedge]

lock file is designed to lock the install command to not let another edit the needed files while installing so by doing this they allow user to install another package

This can corroupt some files lol

[jagged obsidian]

so since yall are hating on some distros

what distro would be recommended

[jade wedge]

i hate only bad distro

[oak hemlock]

Ubuntu flavors 😔

they're so good, man

[jagged obsidian]

how about ubuntu

[oak hemlock]

you really cannot go wrong with them

[oak hemlock]

eh, if you like GNOME

[jagged obsidian]

i like gnome

plain ol' vanilla ubuntu

[cursive agate]

any vanilla distro if we disregard friendliness

[oak hemlock]

Kubuntu (or KDE Neon) for KDE Plasma,
Xubuntu for Xfce,
Lubuntu for LXQt,
Ubuntu MATE for MATE,
Ubuntu Budge for Budgie

[jagged obsidian]

why not just call it Bubuntu

[oak hemlock]

KDE Neon gang

[jagged obsidian]

instead of ubuntu budge

[cursive agate]

never tried it but since it is maintained by the KDE Devs, i trust that

[jade wedge]

by the way why would they delete lock file mid way installing software cz thats a protection to not let user run two install command at a time and corroput the package dir

[sick olive]

linux is much better than windows for dev once you wrap your head around it

[cursive agate]

true. but i will make fun of it because bubu is bobo which means stupid in my language

[jagged obsidian]

..pilipino ka din?

[cursive agate]

yep

[jagged obsidian]

ah nice

[hearty prawn]

lolcode best language

[jagged obsidian]

can i haz stdio

[hearty prawn]

HAI 1.2
CAN HAS STDIO?
VISIBLE "HAI WORLD!!!1!"
KTHXBYE

[jade wedge]

By the way why would manjaro delete lock file mid way installing software cz thats a protection to not let user run two install command at a time and corroput the package dir

[cursive agate]

unless you want to make software for windows, well that also depends on your target system actually.

[jagged obsidian]

because manjaro stupid

[upper turret]

https://blogs.gnome.org/christopherdavis/2021/11/10/system76-how-not-to-collaborate/ damn

[cursive agate]

ask them, they know. arch maintainers just laugh at them anyway

[jade wedge]

True its a stupid thing to delete lockfile mid way installing package

[sick olive]

you're right. I do exclusively web dev/backend stuff, for that it is perfecto

[cursive agate]

I use void anyway. i think i will go back to either fedora or opensuse next year. i just got so comfy in void even though my initial plan was to explore its init system.

[jade wedge]

The "unable to lock database" or "failed to synchronize any databases" errors occur when your package manager thinks that there's already another instance of your package manager running on your computer.

Quite often this is actually not the case and the error is in fact just an error. And it can be fixed quite easily by deleting the database lock file.

To do this, open a terminal and execcute the following command:

sudo rm /var/lib/pacman/db.lck

That's it.

What even the manjaro forum user suggested that????????

[jagged obsidian]

What in the fuck

Atleast try searching for pacman processes first

[jade wedge]

true lol

why they just delete the lockfile

its not good to do that

[cursive agate]

i just do this if a lock file fails to sync pacman -Syyu

https://gist.github.com/Brottweiler/952c8b0de0afc01c6c8ef18b5a1a5294 this gist is funny though lol

[jagged obsidian]

i still feel bad for that guy who did pacman -Sy firefox

[jade wedge]

but the forum says in case of

unable to lock database
```Which is a bad idea to delete lockfiles, atleast search for pacman process and end them first

[jagged obsidian]

end them?!

without knowing if they're still performing operations?

[jade wedge]

like wait for them to finish lol

[cursive agate]

oh yeah true. i misread

[jagged obsidian]

o

[cursive agate]

you can end them and just -Syyu but deleting lockfiles is a big no no

[oak hemlock]

wtf has happened

why does it look like this

[jade wedge]

lmao

what extension u have

[oak hemlock]

oh phew I fixed it

[jagged obsidian]

something high constrast something

[oak hemlock]

yeah, for some reason it said "dark mode" but it showed high contrast

no extension

[jade wedge]

lmao

bad darkmode

[cursive agate]

imma buy some junk food

i need something to chew on~~ other than my things~~

[oak hemlock]

your things?

[cursive agate]

and my people

[jade wedge]

chew ur pc??????????????

[cursive agate]

i chew my mental health

oooof

[jade wedge]

just don't chew ur body

[cursive agate]

i chewed on someone else before but i will never describe it to you.

@oak hemlock goodnight!!

[jagged obsidian]

lol chew on deez nuts

[oak hemlock]

I

want to sue Windows

[jagged obsidian]

microsoft?

[oak hemlock]

❯ wsl
Please enable the Virtual Machine Platform Windows feature and ensure virtualization is enabled in the BIOS.
For information please visit https://aka.ms/wsl2-install

I've literally done this

[jagged obsidian]

all you have to do is enable the Virtual Machine Platform Windows feature and ensure virtualization is enabled in the BIOS

[jade wedge]

bios?

[oak hemlock]

I already checked

It's enabled

I had WSL in the past, so it should be working

[quasi cape]

not only virtualization , but there are some other options to enable as well

[jade wedge]

windows vitrual machine platform feature and wsl on in windows feature?

[quasi cape]

um

where is sandbox

[oak hemlock]

heck if I know

[quasi cape]

lol

[jade wedge]

search for it

[pliant canyon]

same

[cursive agate]

reinstall! jk. but wtf

[oak hemlock]

:c

[cursive agate]

i think i also found an issue on github on why wsl cant be installed

related to yours

[oak hemlock]

I try reinstall

[cursive agate]

@oak hemlockhttps://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/5363

@oak hemlock

❤️ 🤗

[oak hemlock]

already enabled

[cursive agate]

F

imma take a bath and then buy junk food

[oak hemlock]

nvm @cursive agate, I think that second command fixed it

[rustic parcel]

iH

[cursive agate]

no u didnt

i fixed u 🥺

[oak hemlock]

;-;

LMAO I did something really weird on accident

I accidentally somehow glitched PowerShell and cmd into the same terminal

[dusky inlet]

bruh

[oak hemlock]

that was weird

very very weird

I think it was a result of a fork... with cmd + PowerShell

[solid prawn]

wha

[oak hemlock]

hm I'm thinking powertoys was a mistake

it's using so much CPU for what appears to be no reason

ah.

loving Windows rn

[clear root]

huh, explorer normally doesnt die like that

[oak hemlock]

I think it was powertoys

powertoys seems to have died too

[clear root]

are they really janky with windows 11?

[oak hemlock]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pliant canyon]

wtf

what did u do

[oak hemlock]

I disabled something that was taking up like 17% CPU

zones? or something

[clear root]

oh yeah, that would do it

[pliant canyon]

lol

[clear root]

I just use powertoys for the "totally not spotlight" search

[pliant canyon]

kill powertoys or restart windows epxlorer

but how

[oak hemlock]

PowerToys killed itself lol

also I restarted Windows Explorer from Task Manager

[clear root]

does zones just replace the explorer DE

if so, thats hilarious

[oak hemlock]

I have no clue, but like things were really buggy for a second for me

like Rider was missing minimize and maximize buttons and I thought that was really weird

[clear root]

IG zones are just kind of wonky

[oak hemlock]

Should I re-enable it and see what happens :faint:

[clear root]

if you have the time to experiment

the good news is that you shouldnt be able to mess anything up permanently this way

[dusty quarry]

The unusual initiative to boost vaccine uptake will be launched on 1st November at Austria’s biggest brothel ‘Funpalast ‘ located in the capital Vienna.

Brothel manager Peter Laskaris told the news site Heute: “As normal for a brothel, anyone can come here and pick up their free jab without an appointment.”

Fun Palast in Vienna is hoping to increase vaccination rates and client numbers at its brothel by offering free vaccines and time with a lady of their choice, according to the Mail Online. 

Vaccination uptake levels in Austria have stalled at 64%, making it among the worst in western Europe as the govt. reintroduces tighter Covid restrictions.```LMFAO

[oak hemlock]

nothing interesting happens

idk how to use zones, I think I'll keep them disabled

Huh, "PowerToys Run" seems nice

Perhaps I should use that more

[static trout]

https://app.inferkit.com/demo this is amazing

i gave it this

The date is 21st May 2064. Zuckerberg overthrew the last vestiges of the government and has now declared it compulsory for everybody to live a minimum of 10 hours in the metaverse.

this is what it generated

Having freed humanity from political institutions and given each one of us access to infinite possibilities, he has now put his trust in this new system to ensure that all the other aspects of life are taken care of. This is the benefit of metaverse utopia – time.

Citizens of the metaverse are free to choose how they want to spend their days; the entire metaverse is theirs to do with as they will. This has turned everyday life into one of basic pleasures. From living your dream career to doing what you love the most, from reading a novel to playing a game or studying to being that family member that always is there to spoil your day, your days now are filled with limitless potential, and they can be as customized as you want.

My great-great-great-grandchildren will be spending a much more exciting time than we do today, probably one in which they’ll see somebody on a TV set wearing a suit and glasses in the metaverse.

[clear root]

ye, thats the only thing I use

it works about as well as the original mac feature

[oak hemlock]

Neat

[dusty quarry]

LMAO

[oak hemlock]

this is tripping me out

I switch apps and it sounds like the singers in my music are drowning

LMAO wtf

perhsp I'm going crazy

[tepid echo]

happens sometimes

[oak hemlock]

oh god

[tepid echo]

rip

[oak hemlock]

okay this sound thing is driving me crazy

wtf is causing it

[neat glen]

oh god

are you a game developer

[oak hemlock]

wannabe game developer 😎

[neat glen]

aa

[solid prawn]

unity do be like that

[peak cairn]

my gpu dies before my cpu dies

since my gpu is fuckin shit intel xe graphics bruh

[oak hemlock]

isn't Xe supposed to be good

LMAO come on this audio thing is actually killing me

I think it's Discord

[peak cairn]

use your damn brain lol

XE is good?

[eternal trail]

intel iris xe?

[oak hemlock]

Compared to other iGPUs? That's what I've heard

[eternal trail]

I think it's one of the best iGPUs out there

[tall thorn]

Unity legit explodes my pc when I launch it

[oak hemlock]

yeah I think Intel Xe might actually be the best iGPUs

[oak hemlock]

ah same but only because it bugs out when switching layouts

[tall thorn]

My pc is just trash

[oak hemlock]

I have a Ryzen 4800h and RTX 2060 Mobile

with 16 GB RAM

[cursive agate]

https://youtu.be/EHJdKyMuqTM

highschoolers in a nutshell

[cursive agate]

16GB RAM GANG

Huh... wtf it sounds weird. imma just ignore

[oak hemlock]

okay

I think it's Discord

This is seriously bothering me LMAO

I open Discord and singers get drowned :faint:

[cursive agate]

your music gets drowned? what OS

🤔🤔

[peak cairn]

i want to throw it

[oak hemlock]

Windows 11

[tall thorn]

I have a intel 7 with integrated graphics and 8 gb of ram

[oak hemlock]

ngl I think I'm cursed

even Windows 11 is starting to break on me

[peak cairn]

its still in early development

[oak hemlock]

Not really

It's been out for months

[peak cairn]

well at least um, user development

[oak hemlock]

and it's still mostly Windows 10

[peak cairn]

a successful os at least takes 1 yeaer to 2 years time

[jade wedge]

Discord have a reputation of auto raising discord client's volume

[peak cairn]

a few months is not enough for users to discover stuff

[cursive agate]

just use windows 95

[cursive agate]

i dont get it

[jade wedge]

By the way discord have a reputation of auto raising discord client's volume

[cursive agate]

i have a reputation to raise someone's volume

[jade wedge]

Discord can control ur volume lol

No settings to turn it off

[cursive agate]

sigh

[upper turret]

bruh i had to clean my PC and reslot stuff and now i am stuck with 16GB RAM

[cursive agate]

https://youtu.be/6EfhAFA2yFE

lmao youtube.. whyyy

[pale mesa]

was that a joke or

did it went over my head

[burnt tinsel]

i was trying to setup up vim for python, but in the process of testing everything seemed fine but input dosen't work... is there a way it can?

[jade wedge]

Vim does not accept input there I guess lol

[burnt tinsel]

it dosent support REPL i suppose xD

[tepid echo]

I don't think there is a way

[novel hull]

You can hide vim, run the program and open it back up ig

[oak hemlock]

hm... I've got a question

If you're given the radius of a sphere and an angle, how might one predict the point on a grid where that angle intersects with the sphere

[stone gyro]

what's an "angle"

[oak hemlock]

er

rotation, really

idk. I'm confused

[stone gyro]

huh?

[oak hemlock]

um

angle from the center of the sphere

oof. one second

[stone gyro]

so, like... a line through the center?

[solid prawn]

sounds like you want to convert polar coordinates to cartesian coordinates

[oak hemlock]

I have no idea what either of those mean tbh

[solid prawn]

in 2d its just (r cos t, r sin t)

[static trout]

polar coordinates mean you have the distance from origin and an angle from one axis

[solid prawn]

in 3d theres a bunch of more complicated trigonometry

[stone gyro]

good old

(r,phi,theta) -> (x = r cos(phi) cos(theta), y = r sin(phi) cos(theta), z = r sin(theta))

[oak hemlock]

oh.

this was a lot more complicated than I thought

[stone gyro]

this is assuming you measurephi in the xy plane from the x axis (in the direction of y) , and measure theta from the xy plane

[oak hemlock]

:faint:

[stone gyro]

here's a diagram, but they are using the slighly different convention where theta is from the z axis

then it'll be

z = r cos(theta)
x = r sin(theta) cos(phi)
y = r sin(theta) sin(phi)

[oak hemlock]

yep... brain exploding

[quasi cape]

parametric form 👀

[static trout]

in mumbo jumbo voice: its simple really!

[stone gyro]

which part is complicated?

[oak hemlock]

uh...

well

[neat glen]

scary math

[quasi cape]

its just vector resolution smh

[oak hemlock]

Well, first... Pretty much like 99% of that went over my head... Second... I've realized this would be useless anyways because I don't have an angle, really :faint:

[static trout]

wat

[stone gyro]

what do you have?

[quasi cape]

for a point
you need its magnitude + 2 angle it make with either of the 3 axis to represent it iirc

[oak hemlock]

x, y, z rotation

x, y, z position

[static trout]

rotation from what

[oak hemlock]

the... center? :faint:

[stone gyro]

wdym by these two?

[oak hemlock]

I've got a 3D sphere in a 3D grid

[stone gyro]

okay

[oak hemlock]

I... am actually very confused

[neat glen]

scary 3d world

[oak hemlock]

Who even knows what the heck I'm trying to do

[quasi cape]

oh are you making a simulation thingy

[solid prawn]

do you have the euler angles

[oak hemlock]

I dunno what those even are

[solid prawn]

this is in unity right

how are you getting these

[oak hemlock]

yes Unity

LMAO I'm just trying to follow a sphere around with a camera

I'm so super confused

[solid prawn]

just make the camera a child of the sphere

it'll follow around automatically when the sphere moves

[oak hemlock]

yes except when the sphere rotates... well

[solid prawn]

*or make them both children of the same empty object

hmmm

[stone gyro]

are you trying to, like

set the camera's position so that the camera is aimed at the sphere?

[oak hemlock]

I'd think yes but also I'd want to be on the opposite direction it is heading in

[stone gyro]

just take the camera's direction as a unit vector (unity has a method for that for sure), and set the position to spherePosition - view_dir * distance

ah

then it'd be spherePosition - headingUnitVector * distance

[solid prawn]

like a 3rd person

[oak hemlock]

LMAO I'm so confused

one second let me show you what I'm seeing

[stone gyro]

(and set camera's direction to headingUnitVector)

[oak hemlock]

oh this is really weird

[cursive agate]

i wanna make a picture to represent my project!!
wlroots:

🥺

[oak hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/mxMneJ8.gif

LMAO

[cursive agate]

wtf

[stone gyro]

lol, I just checked out Swift and, uhh

the example from their homepage

struct Player {
    var name: String
    var highScore: Int = 0
    var history: [Int] = []

    init(_ name: String) {
        self.name = name
    }
}

var player = Player("Tomas")
// elided some stuff
extension Player: Codable, Equatable {}

import Foundation
let encoder = JSONEncoder()
try encoder.encode(player)

print(player)
// Prints "Tomas, games played: 1, high score: 50”

either they fucked that example up, or they have no idea what JSON is

because last time I checked, "Tomas, games played: 1, high score: 50” aint it

[oak hemlock]

Okay wait, what on Earth is a headingUnitVector

[stone gyro]

a unit vector in the direction your sphere is heading in

[thick widget]

yes, i can confirm that is not fun.
solution?

git gud /j

[oak hemlock]

var headingUnitVector = _sphere.transform.forward;

this is what I have

[stone gyro]

ah yes, weird shapes
∫

[oak hemlock]

    private void Update()
    {
        var spherePosition = _sphere.transform.position;
        var headingUnitVector = _sphere.transform.forward;

        this.transform.position = spherePosition - headingUnitVector * 5;
    }

no idea about... anything else

[novel hull]

Well, they didn't print the encoded thing tbf, they just printed the player

they encoded it in a try statement and did nothing with the result

[stone gyro]

Ah, good point lol

so they just didn't show the result and showed another feature instead

[novel hull]

Yeah, which is still strange

[oak hemlock]

okay wait

[novel hull]

At least group things up so you don't confuse people

[oak hemlock]

I think I got something

    private void Update()
    {
        var spherePosition = _sphere.transform.position;
        var headingUnitVector = _sphere.transform.forward;

        this.transform.position = spherePosition - headingUnitVector * 5;
        this.transform.rotation = Quaternion.LookRotation(headingUnitVector);
    }

[ruby trellis]

yeah

[dusky inlet]

Quaternions

[oak hemlock]

but... how can one make sure I'm always looking down at the sphere

idk how y'all do this :faint:

[dusky inlet]

wat u doing

[novel hull]

Like from above or..?

[oak hemlock]

well yes

[lofty cypress]

youre always looking down at a sphere

praise symmetry

[oak hemlock]

Apparently trying to 3rd person a sphere :faint:

[novel hull]

Set the camera's coordinates to the same x and z, but increase y, and set the rotation to same y, but 0 x and z

[dusky inlet]

so you dont want the camera to go like inside the sphere?

[novel hull]

actually wait

-180 deg on X

[stone gyro]

just point the camera along the -y axis.

[dusky inlet]

can you really rely on specific axis

[novel hull]

yes, that

[dusky inlet]

they get flipped on rotations

[novel hull]

global xyz, not local

[dusky inlet]

o

[novel hull]

the few cases where global is not a sin like it is in python :)

[stone gyro]

unity's reliance on a global frame of reference must make it a nightmare to implement any special relativity effects in it, now that I think of it

[dusky inlet]

inb4 trig joke

[upper turret]

no

[novel hull]

I think you can have local there too

[dusky inlet]

globals are a sin, cos they lead to messy code

[oak hemlock]

okay, well I think I got the position down

[upper turret]

no

[dusky inlet]

ok then

[upper turret]

go study

[oak hemlock]

        var spherePosition = _sphere.transform.position;
        var headingUnitVector = _sphere.transform.forward;
        var temp = spherePosition - headingUnitVector * 5;

        this.transform.position = new Vector3(temp.x, 5, temp.z);

I dunno how the heck to name these but

wait :faint: surely this won't work

[novel hull]

You can specify Space.Worldor Space.Self apparently, which is pog

[novel hull]

magic number moment

[stone gyro]

this doesn't look like it'll work indeed

[novel hull]

off-topic to the issue you're solving, but it's good practice to make these magic numbers available to customization from the unity editor

you'll thank yourself later down the line

[dusky inlet]

@oak hemlock why not just set the sphere position to cameraPos + cameraDir * C

[oak hemlock]

What is C

[dusky inlet]

how far the sphere is from camera

[oak hemlock]

I think some day I'll get there 😔 I plan on doing this in the future

[novel hull]

I don't remember exactly, but isn't it as simple as shoving it into an attribute?

[oak hemlock]

I have absolutely no clue

[novel hull]

haven't touched unity in a while, sec

[dusky inlet]

lmao

[novel hull]

typos happen

[stone gyro]

if you want the camera to be above the sphere and looking at it, then just do

// set the camera position
var pos = _sphere.transform.position.copy();
pos.y += 5;
this.transform.position = pos;
// set the camera direction
this.transform.rotation = Quaternion.LookRotation(Vector3.down, Vector3.right);

or something like that

[oak hemlock]

oh hey, that's right

[stone gyro]

if you also want the direction the sphere moves in to be the camera's "up" direction, then change Vector3.right to the sphere's direction of movement.

[dusky inlet]

but dont you want the sphere to be jsut in front of the camera

[oak hemlock]

hm how to explain this

kind of like...

... pool

forgot the name for a second

[dusky inlet]

8 ball?

or swimming pool

[oak hemlock]

8 ball

like imagine the stick thing is the camera

the opposite direction is where the ball is going

and the stick is pointed right at the ball

[jade wedge]

Send me the Rick roll server template

[quasi cape]

https://youtu.be/w3O9j48GDuA /lol

[cursive agate]

my soul

and my coffin :3

[oak hemlock]

man, math confuses me

idk what the heck I'm doing

math? probably more like geometry

[static trout]

isnt geometry a subset of math

[oak hemlock]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[static trout]

geometry but algebra

you represent geometry in huge sets of numbers

and then u do algebra with them

[oak hemlock]

I needa give up for a while :faint:

I understand nothing

[stone gyro]

the study of vectors and linear operators on them, basically.

[deep heath]

N-dimensional geometry*

[near raft]

should i buy a phone with 5000mAh battery, 48mp back camera, 13 mp front camera or should i add $100 more and buy a phone with 4310mAh, 64 mp rear camera and 44mp front camera
basically it upgrades the cameras and downgrades the battery
but the former one has 33W charging and the latter has 65W so i guess that backs up the 4310mAh battery

[static trout]

technically still true

[deep heath]

It's just you mentioned it being geometry as numbers... And without mentioning more dimensions, people usually imagine 2d and only sometimes 3d. And never more

[stone gyro]

linear algebra is only a tiny part of geometry, though

because, spoiler, the linear in the title is because it's only about linear operators and stuff. second-order curves like spheres are already outside its purview.

[pale mesa]

do u need that good of a camera

and is the manufacturer capable to fully make use of the camera's potential

there is much more to a camera than its megapixels

[near raft]

ye the brand is good

its called oppo and tbh their main focus is the camera

[near raft]

idk ots just $100

[oak hemlock]

tbh I've heard of "Oppo" like twice

[pale mesa]

as an asian oppo is all around me haha

[oak hemlock]

I thought it was a weird nickname for OnePlus :faint:

[pale mesa]

interesting fact, oppo and oneplus are under the same company

[oak hemlock]

._.

[pale mesa]

both are owned by BBK electronics

[oak hemlock]

:faint:

my life is a lie

[near raft]

ye its mostly famous in asia

[pale mesa]

ye they make up pretty much half of the china's smartphone market

product differentiation ™️

[neat glen]

huawei:

[near raft]

the model im tryna buy is oppo reno 6 5G

its like the latest i think in the reno series

[pale mesa]

xiaomi and meizu exists too

[neat glen]

wait nvm huawei doesnt hav android nnymore

[near raft]

huawei is making their own os lmao

[neat glen]

ive heard of xiaomi, never heard of meizu

[pale mesa]

its just android with a different bottom layer

[oak hemlock]

Isn't Huawei still banned in the US

[neat glen]

tru

[near raft]

fun fact brands like oppo, vivo they started making their own os for like years now

[pale mesa]

harmonyos from huawei is just modified aosp

huawei fans dont hurt me pls

[near raft]

alsp

when is black friday

[neat glen]

xiaomi is just apple in china

xiaomi fans dont hurt me pls

[pale mesa]

they are all aosp

[near raft]

ye ik lmao

[oak hemlock]

I'm sure Apple's worse tbh

[pale mesa]

glorified UIs on top of android

[near raft]

anyway when does black friday start

[oak hemlock]

Samsung >:c

[neat glen]

it starts at friday

[pale mesa]

oneui go brrr

[neat glen]

samsung is just apple in korea

[pale mesa]

touchwiz was bad already but oneui is just more bloat

[oak hemlock]

I really do not like stock Samsung OS

doesn't even feel like Android

[near raft]

does UK have black friday?

[near raft]

this friday?

[oak hemlock]

speaking of which

[near raft]

like 12th Nov?

[oak hemlock]

I've been thinking about what to get

I was thinking of something VR

[neat glen]

nah 26th

[near raft]

ohh

also anyone knows if UK has black fridays?

[neat glen]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[neat glen]

have you get your unity working btw

[oak hemlock]

not on Linux

I gave up. NVIDIA Optimus was being uncooperative

[jagged obsidian]

but pop os tho-

[oak hemlock]

-_-

[jagged obsidian]

ok i'm sorry

[upper turret]

ye but honor is not

[pale mesa]

@oak hemlock wait-

[oak hemlock]

One of these days, I'm gonna install that stupid OS just to prove you wrong

[oak hemlock]

omg fortune teller?

[oak hemlock]

I must capture the avatar to restore my honor

[jagged obsidian]

then do it 😏

[pale mesa]

but but linux supremacy-?

[oak hemlock]

hmph

[neat glen]

cri

[deep heath]

Interesting. I guess oneplus is the only one really in the western market? Oppo and I think realme are only sometimes mentioned but they don't have their own presence or English support, do they?

[oak hemlock]

hate all these OSes at this point

[jagged obsidian]

distros*

[oak hemlock]

OSes

[jagged obsidian]

what

[oak hemlock]

Windows, Linux, macOS

[jagged obsidian]

oh

[oak hemlock]

ugh I hate all of them

[jagged obsidian]

then go use freebsd

[oak hemlock]

-_-

[neat glen]

ah time to go back to ibm

[oak hemlock]

hmph

[jagged obsidian]

toy dora laptop then

[oak hemlock]

I'm gonna go steal some oreos

don't tell oreo

[neat glen]

@quasi cape

[pale mesa]

i wish someone can steal my heart like how this guy steals oreos

smh

[neat glen]

he is stealing your siblings

[oak hemlock]

what if I told you that I lied

damn. I'm either a sibling snatcher or a liar

which do I choose 😔

[neat glen]

both

[oak hemlock]

good point

snatching siblings and lying

[quasi cape]

lol

who wants to eat expired oreo, steal young ones

[pale mesa]

i just realize my exams end one day after christmas

this is so sad

i dont celebrate christmas but smh exam board

[neat glen]

um this is why he is stealing your siblings but not you?

[hearty prawn]

ayo

[quasi cape]

yes

[quasi cape]

io

[hearty prawn]

i need a fontend framework

tf do i use

[quasi cape]

react

[oak hemlock]

Asnackin' Slywalker 😔

[quasi cape]

for a moment i thought alan walker lol

[oak hemlock]

there was an attempt

[hearty prawn]

hmm

react is okay i guess

i was thinking of trying out vue

[neat glen]

@pale mesa wait when did you turn to 老婆 i remember you were 老公 last time, or am i wrong

[neat glen]

html

[oak hemlock]

is that Chinese :faint:

[hearty prawn]

im not using plain vanilla html

[neat glen]

mayhaps

[oak hemlock]

looks like ramen noodles to me

[hearty prawn]

i need to make a good app not a shitty one

[neat glen]

pug

[pale mesa]

i realized i am a bottom so i switched roles

[oak hemlock]

ma'am

[neat glen]

@hearty prawn

wait oops did i ping dawn

[hearty prawn]

yeah :[

[oak hemlock]

aph can you be the translator here \😩

what do the ramen noodles mean

[neat glen]

i dont know 2

[hearty prawn]

ahhh

[oak hemlock]

shame

[eternal trail]

no

[sick olive]

Noddles for ramens?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Mama_instant_noodle_block.jpg/1200px-Mama_instant_noodle_block.jpg

[hearty prawn]

AH i want to make something but i can't discuss it in this server and its killing me

[sick olive]

You take it

[oak hemlock]

yes, ramen. just how I like 'em

[sick olive]

Cook it

[pale mesa]

replace your terms with random nouns

[quasi cape]

maggi moment

[oak hemlock]

that was a terrible, terrible joke

[sick olive]

https://thehintofrosemary.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/ramen-cover-scaled.jpg

Make a ramen

[neat glen]

encrypt the message, send us the keys

[stone gyro]

make it and never tell anyone, duh

[quasi cape]

japaaneseeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[sick olive]

Okay I gotta make myself a ramen tomorrow

[oak hemlock]

nobody will ever get it. shame

[pale mesa]

i will eat u

r ramen

[quasi cape]

is uncooked yolk healthy

[hearty prawn]

i want to "gamer play with a game i play a lot and use it to git gud"

[hearty prawn]

ah YES

[oak hemlock]

I think it can... not be

[quasi cape]

lol

[pale mesa]

training an AI in a game u play a lot?

[oak hemlock]

can't you get... salmonella \😩

[sick olive]

If it has been correctly conserved, yes

[hearty prawn]

close

[quasi cape]

hmm , so on the spot consumption smh

[pale mesa]

according to the latest gordan ramsay video to make a ramen egg u boil it for 6 minutes

[deep heath]

Hmmm... But is your heart tasty like oreo?

[hearty prawn]

more like not training but making a computer win games for me

[neat glen]

viginere + b64 + b86 + caesar + xor @hearty prawn

[upper turret]

oneplus is oppo's child company kinda

[sick olive]

I read it as vinegar and I thought it was about cooking

[pale mesa]

ban /j

[deep heath]

I had exams during my birthday

[neat glen]

wait i think i can sell your organs, send me your address now, ill come and steal your heart

[neat glen]

Vinégar cipher

[oak hemlock]

damn I just realized

@quasi cape a snack

[hearty prawn]

lmfaoo

[oak hemlock]

or could one say... "snacc"

[pale mesa]

precious moment of silence

[neat glen]

wait vivek-wants-your-kidneys, i want your heart. is this a win win

[sick olive]

Okay, I have two objectives for tomorrow

[hearty prawn]

does anyone know what information minecraft stores in memory?

[pale mesa]

i think a heart goes higher in the market than kidneys

[deep heath]

Salmonella is on the shell. Yolk is generally safe, even uncooked completely. There's no such thing as 'undercooked yolk', runny yolk is standard in a lot of egg dishes.

[neat glen]

lets sell both

[sick olive]

Nicky, do you have a nice ramen recipe

[pale mesa]

u have to share me 75% of the earnings

[hearty prawn]

i tried to cook sphehebfhti9

it turned out good

[deep heath]

Interesting. But oneplus has been marketed towards Western market from the start, hasn't it?

[oak hemlock]

love me some sphehebfhti9

[hearty prawn]

yeah bro

[neat glen]

hmm, sure deal

[hearty prawn]

what fun shit can i do with messing with memory

[oak hemlock]

forget

[sick olive]

Sounds pretty rule 5-y to me

[hearty prawn]

?

[upper turret]

worldwide i suppose

[deep heath]

Not really. My partner does their own ramen-inspired thing but uses leftover chicken soup with soy sauce and stuff, instead of making real ramen broth

[hearty prawn]

fun doesn't always mean malicious

[pale mesa]

!pypi pymem

[obtuse swallow]

Pymem v1.8.5

pymem: python memory access made easy

[sick olive]

Sadge

[neat glen]

hack on old games

[upper turret]

they used to have their own OS - oxygen OS
now they are integrating it with oppo's OS - colorOS

[hearty prawn]

thats no funnn

[neat glen]

i dont know fun ngl

[hearty prawn]

opposucks

[deep heath]

Oxygen is sooo nice

[pale mesa]

i used this to hook into a music player program and broadcasted my playing status to discord rpc

[oak hemlock]

Oxygen is what I'm using currently with my OnePlus

[upper turret]

ye cherish it while it lasts, cuz its dying

[deep heath]

And oneplus doesn't lose warranty if you install custom ROM

[neat glen]

i understand 0% part of it

[pale mesa]

i tried to use ctypes to do it but i gave up

[neat glen]

im a genius

[pale mesa]

so i just used a readily made module

[deep heath]

Why change something that is working? I think integrating the both OSs won't change much when it comes to Oxygen because people like it, so it will come on top :P

[pale mesa]

i wanted to get a oneplus but i dont like their newer phones haha

[upper turret]

the camera and settings app have already been changed to colorOS

[deep heath]

And as I said, oneplus allows you to install custom ROMs, so downgrading or using something similar is possible

[deep heath]

When? Is that the update that is pending for me or do I already have it without noticing?

[eternal trail]

absolute win

[upper turret]

already done lol

[deep heath]

Either I already have the changed stuff or it isn't out yet

[deep heath]

So nothing really changed

[eternal trail]

will that void the warranty? I remember hearing about a certain manufacture who wil not void warranty but I cant remember which

[upper turret]

i mean the update is in beta ig rn - android 12

[oak hemlock]

I only had the choice between this, another Samsung or a cheap Motorola

[deep heath]

Not with oneplus. That's why I said they allow it :3 most others will void the warranty but not them

[eternal trail]

ah it's oneplus then

[pale mesa]

xiaomi dont void warranty too

[hearty prawn]

i want to make my own vpn now

i used to use a xiami, i switched to an iphone a week back

[eternal trail]

maybe I should get a oneplus

[deep heath]

Ah. So everything can change. And new interface to settings or camera is expected with bigger updates. I wouldn't even notice it, probably

[pale mesa]

i had to travel to china once and setup my own vmess proxy so i could still use whatsapp

[oak hemlock]

I think you probably mean a simple proxy

[static trout]

apple is dragging you down

oops wrong reply

sorry 😅

[oak hemlock]

Banned

[eternal trail]

banned

[hearty prawn]

?

[deep heath]

Openvpn is nice. But at some point it's worth switching to something else. My friend had problems with bandwidth because when it's wide, Openvpn doesn't know how to use it

[hearty prawn]

hm

i'm. thinking more of gertting my own proxies

seems like a fun project

[oak hemlock]

Proxy is a fun word

[pale mesa]

ey i got a cheap server from google and ran a proxy service

[hearty prawn]

it is isn't it

[sick olive]

Hmm I could probably throw a VPN onto my VPS, it could come in handy

[hearty prawn]

ily google

[deep heath]

My friend had their vpn on digitalocean vps. DO credits are/were in github education pack

[dusty aspen]

indeed

[pale mesa]

it was definitely amusing to monitor my own traffic haha

never knew i did so many random stuff on the web

[oak hemlock]

A Joe in the making

[sick olive]

:ohno:

[deep heath]

When I see so motivated young people, I get demotivated ._.

[oak hemlock]

Same

[eternal trail]

I don't have such weaknesses

I am always demotivated

[dusty aspen]

you're not that old cyph

[pale mesa]

when u reach 18 and realize there are babies born in 2021 u suddenly feel old

[quasi cape]

what is this chat

time flies while contemplating the truth of the universe - genshin impact

lol

[deep heath]

Yes. But it kinda worsens sometimes

[pale mesa]

mfw kids starts calling me uncle

when i am only 18

[deep heath]

THERE ARE PEOPLE BORN IN 2000 WHO CAN LEGALLY DRINK IN ALL US STATES

[mortal hull]

lol

[pale mesa]

2003 me who can legally drink

[lofty cypress]

1996 was the year to be born tbh

everyone else is just missing out

[quasi cape]

2004 me

[near raft]

do y'all use back covers for ur phone

[pale mesa]

ye

[lofty cypress]

yes

[quasi cape]

ya

[pale mesa]

tempered glass on the front

[sick olive]

Yup

[deep heath]

Does that mean you're from 1996?

[pale mesa]

i have been through 5 cycles of tempered glass

[quasi cape]

yes

[lofty cypress]

perhaps

[deep heath]

Yay

[quasi cape]

definitely

[deep heath]

Same age

[near raft]

im thinking whether to use back covers

[deep heath]

Btw, I recently found out that I share birthday with Guido

[pale mesa]

@deep heath wait i thought u are in ur 30s

[near raft]

cause back covers sorta kills half the beauty of the phone

[deep heath]

WHAT

[pale mesa]

i played myself

[deep heath]

WHAT

[quasi cape]

if you are just sit and chill user aka introvert then its not needed 😎

[lofty cypress]

ah youre older than me by 5 months

[near raft]

nah im out almost always

[pale mesa]

get a transparent back cover

[quasi cape]

damn

[near raft]

but ive never dropped a phone from my hand

[deep heath]

It's funny

I have blue phone

[pale mesa]

anyways i like buying cheap taobao back covers with emo phrases written on the back because i can

[sick olive]

I just use the one that's packaged with my phone when I bought it

[sick olive]

While I can't show a picture, it looks ugly, lol

[near raft]

u put a cover and thats gone

[deep heath]

As you can see, my phone is blue XD

[hollow holly]

Quite blue

[near raft]

thats

[hollow holly]

The blue is really popping out there

[near raft]

black

[pale mesa]

my cover be like all chinese

[near raft]

lol

im prolly not gonna get a cover i guess

[deep heath]

There's no black oneplus 7t

That's blue!

[pale mesa]

nice fingers /j

[quasi cape]

So nord blue

[near raft]

sooo

the cover is black then

[quasi cape]

dam

[deep heath]

That was the whole point XD