auctions-general

[low hinge]

man i already ordered the porsche

how tf am i gonna pay for that now

[modern saffron]

That was a dumb move.

Bs it goes to all of top.gg no?

[low hinge]

im joking

[modern saffron]

Ik

lol

Its kinda neat what you can do with html edits

I can ssry make a whole fake bid if i wanted

[low hinge]

crazy indeed

[modern saffron]

yeah.

Watch

Or

[oak whale]

you got veld lmao

[modern saffron]

Def

lol

I love doing that to sites occasionally just to see how ppl react

[low hinge]

😔

[modern saffron]

Bro just googled porsche cancel page

[low hinge]

reverse image search it i dare you

[modern saffron]

Nah.

There images are easy to make anyways

Still tho.

[low hinge]

toucan play that game

[modern saffron]

Ima see if i can get anyone else now. Just for the lolz

[heavy aspen]

does anybody who's been in the market for a while tend to see seasonal changes in ad conversion, or is it generally consistent throughout the year?

[toxic brook]

seasonal changes yes, but never predictable

[heavy aspen]

interesting, good to know

[novel furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/tucan-funny-cute-stepping-walking-gif-17493053

-# im sorry

[torn patio]

Ha

[sterile rain]

is bot's front page top voted slot 1 worth the money? with the most views and clicks

[heavy aspen]

the projected clickthrough rates and such are not a guarantee of conversion

they're useful metrics to know how many eyes might land on your ad, but imo it's value to find slots that have low starting bids that week/not a lot of attention and grab those for cheap and use those to validate your positioning

[quiet fox]

what's going on with the economy tag lately? jeez, people are paying 20$ per 1k views there?

it's a good tag, but damn

[modern saffron]

Someone has money

Om... I hate thease auctions at times. Just went way over budget bc ticket king appeared :/

Still won 8k impressions tho!

[coarse lantern]

Ticket King always appears

[modern saffron]

Respect aspect. You did give me a run

[drowsy meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-invincible-gif-15950173611998718110

[modern saffron]

What shocked me tho. Went all week with that slot fully bought out. And had it all the way till ticket king appeared

[coarse lantern]

Everybody bids on the last day not really much point in bidding many days before

[modern saffron]

True. I did it to hopefully make last day buffered and it did work

Mostly

Before you appeared I had 1 bid from a diff bot. Immediately raised my bid and they backed off

[drowsy meadow]

And I existed

[modern saffron]

So it does work a little

[drowsy meadow]

😃

[modern saffron]

Saw your bots in the bidding wars. How it go?

[drowsy meadow]

was fine

I raised cause it was funny

[modern saffron]

I ssry am broke so this was painful. Got like 40usd to my name now

I hope one day I make more money for this hell

[drowsy meadow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[modern saffron]

Sorry ranting bc I find it funny

[coarse lantern]

The bill is not looking good

https://tenor.com/view/huge-bill-lilt-saturday-night-live-big-expense-fourty-four-thousand-two-hundred-fifty-six-gif-24630359

[oak whale]

meanwhile veld :

https://tenor.com/view/nadech-nadech-kugimiya-handsome-money-money-shower-gif-22794479

[modern saffron]

Could be worse. Saw someone bidding 4 and 5k

[oak whale]

@low hinge re-order your ferrari

[modern saffron]

Ye

[modern saffron]

//\

[low hinge]

[modern saffron]

They bidded this on like 3 slots it looked like

[coarse lantern]

I think they just forgot to lower the number

[oak whale]

if veld gets one do i get one too eventually

can you put kids car seats in ferraris

[modern saffron]

There likely forced to pay it. Those were after the 10min mark

Plus if they can bid that that means they have paid alot before

[coarse lantern]

They got outbid on both the slots they bid those amounts they don't have to pay it

[modern saffron]

My question is why they not in partnership email

[modern saffron]

Bruh

[oak whale]

we arent actively accepting partnerships right now as we draw near the new auctions system

unless someone gives us an offer we can't refuse

[coarse lantern]

Tempting

[modern saffron]

Clearly they could

The most i could give is like 50usd so I dont try at partnership email

[coarse lantern]

Is there any rough timeline yet for the new system?

[modern saffron]

I hope this new system is a little more balanced

[coarse lantern]

The new system doesn't have any deadlines

[modern saffron]

Ooh? So like constantly live ads?

[coarse lantern]

It should be

[oak whale]

I dont have any timeline, but you could ask about it in our next quarterly ama

[modern saffron]

That would be nice. Id like it if big bots get their own slots so smaller can do their thing. But thats me

[coarse lantern]

Damn I forgot to use my $2 in credits before I paid my bill

[modern saffron]

See and I mean this with respect. Bots like ticket king can do whatever the hell they want because they make a income. Where bots like mine i make a - income monthly

Its a tad annoying for smaller bots.

[coarse lantern]

I was there once don't worry

It's been a long journey

[modern saffron]

Im sure. And I have respect for ticketking.

It just makes it hard for smaller bots. Its not one person's fault Its a failure on the system

[heavy aspen]

sometimes you get get good volume here though on the higher impression pages

provided not too many people jump on

the tuesday strat didn't work out for me this week but it did last week

[latent glade]

@heavy aspen

[sturdy moat]

Can I partially pay a bid?

[hearty swift]

Are auctions down?

[jovial ravine]

yep, got the same

[hearty swift]

@low hinge

[violet sand]

We're escalating internally

[hearty swift]

There will be any change for auctions to be extended?

[low hinge]

checking it out

[meager trout]

@violet sand why maki is not in #bids ?

[violet sand]

afaik #bids can't display everything, especially when Auctions is about to close, due to Discord's ratelimits

[sturdy moat]

Stop bidding please 😭

You and Maki alone raised it from 3 to 8

[tender wraith]

guh

[meager trout]

i'll when maki stops

😆

[sturdy moat]

How much do u guys make jesus

[wheat tree]

it's pretty funny to see startit and maki fight

lmao

bro and it went up again

[meager trout]

NOOOOOOO

Kiuri reseted timer 😆

[wheat tree]

4 MINUTES?

😭

[sturdy moat]

I need big money to compete against yall

[meager trout]

:D

[tender wraith]

how do yall afford this stuff

[harsh monolith]

Man this is boring

[tender wraith]

like no way a discord bot can make that much

unless you do a mee6

[meager trout]

i'm sure it is

[wheat tree]

absolutely dominated

[sturdy moat]

Im sayin

[wheat tree]

almost there

[meager trout]

10 seconds

[sturdy moat]

@meager trout How does startit make money

[wheat tree]

BRO

[meager trout]

i hate you Q

[sturdy moat]

Bro bid brah

[wheat tree]

maki gotta stop

[meager trout]

i hate that auctions are always in time when i eat lunch

[wheat tree]

have a great lunch

[meager trout]

it will be cold if maki won't stop 😆

[wheat tree]

maki gotta stop

[meager trout]

okey 60 seconds guys

[wheat tree]

Hopefully

[hardy estuary]

30 minutes overtime ... seriously ...

[wheat tree]

we are so close..

[wheat tree]

that looks like a solid schnitzel

[faint orbit]

LMAO

[wheat tree]

BRO

[faint orbit]

IM LOSING ITT

[hardy estuary]

OMG

[faint orbit]

LET IT ENDDD

PLEASEEE

[meager trout]

i think that Q is trolling rn

[wheat tree]

idk but it's kinda annoying 😭

[harsh monolith]

yea

[wheat tree]

hell no bro

[faint orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-dog-eyes-hotel-translvania-gif-19155734

[meager trout]

why

[wheat tree]

...

[heavy merlin]

lol funny

[meager trout]

AJ you monster, let it end

[heavy merlin]

wont do it again now haha

[heavy aspen]

lmao

[meager trout]

guys, i have to do 8.90 to beat him

i'm sorry

[wheat tree]

...

[faint orbit]

atp i wanna be kicked out lowk, i dont want the adspace anymore

[heavy merlin]

might +$1

[wheat tree]

NO

[meager trout]

30 seconds

everyone shut up

[harsh monolith]

It was fun

[wheat tree]

ALMOST

[faint orbit]

hes coming

[harsh monolith]

And a huge waste of time

[faint orbit]

he is lying

omg

[wheat tree]

YESSSSSSSSSS

[faint orbit]

i dont believe it

[heavy merlin]

lol

[meager trout]

@harsh monolith gg

[wheat tree]

FINALLy

[harsh monolith]

See you all next year

[faint orbit]

happy newyear

[meager trout]

happy new year

[heavy merlin]

new happy year

[wheat tree]

happy new year

[mossy wharf]

charging poor users for basic features

[heavy aspen]

God forbid a service charge for features 😭

[coarse lantern]

that gave me a good laugh

[mossy wharf]

glad it did so

[past wedge]

python isn't worth spending one cent on

[meager trout]

stop spreading misinformation ciach

when you where in staff team, you defended Startit, saying that we get practically everything for free and charge for two plugins like tickets and youtube notifications

you hate startit only becouse you were demoted from staff team, and metzil hates startit because they believe that all discord bots should be free, most importantly written in Rust and owner should cover the cost of the running the bot

i know what you want to say ina, sorry for drama

[mossy wharf]

not going to comment on that

[small hinge]

This is not what #auctions-general is for, having feedback on each other's projects is fine, but anything past that particularly internal conflict needs to move to DMs.

[meager trout]

of course, i won't continue this topic

[small hinge]

Thank you

[past wedge]

I believe in fairness.

[mossy wharf]

once again, not going to comment on that, if you want to talk it out I'm free to do it through DMs
I'm not even hostile toward you, I just want to sort this situation out in a civilized way privately

[hoary phoenix]

@heavy sigil

[heavy sigil]

Hello, how can i help you

[hoary phoenix]

i mentioned you bcz here anyone promoting scam

now they got banned

[heavy sigil]

ahhh, okay

[hoary phoenix]

👍

[jovial ravine]

My ad must suck haha

Last auction, as an experiment, I intentionally won the Casino Tag 1 / 2 so that I could put up both my "discord bot" / the "product" that I made before my discord bot was approved.

While this isn't enough evidence to conclude (since most folks could probably connect the dots that it's the same bot), it's interesting to see the difference.

[forest knoll]

slot 1 tends to way outperform slot 2, maybe try reversing their slots this week?

[jovial ravine]

Yeah, that would be truly the conclusive test.

[jovial ravine]

Also, not if I go against you 🤣

Good luck out there today, soldier 🫡

[forest knoll]

[heavy aspen]

damn it man

i stepped away at the worst time

hanma always sniping at the last minute

[coarse lantern]

unlucky

[maiden rain]

🤔

[flat fractal]

Can we bid on servers yet? I know they took away servers some time ago.

[oak whale]

yes, server slots have been available since the servers were reinstated on the website

if you collapse the bot category you can see the server slots

[flat fractal]

Weird, none worked for me. Everything was grayed out and no activity was happening in them.

[oak whale]

you likely looked at them after bidding was done

[flat fractal]

Nope

I wouldn't have asked if bidding was over lol. The most i saw was this.

Maybe its something with my server

[sturdy moat]

@meager trout 60k impressions is enough please stop bidding 😭

U doubled the CPM to go from 60k to 60k

[heavy aspen]

you can't bid on slots that have been bought by partnership deals

[sturdy moat]

What CPM do partners pay at

[heavy aspen]

idk

[flat fractal]

This is what it looks like for all them. It was an example.

[oak whale]

yeah you see in the middle where it has the dropdown menu

that has all the slots

if they're greyed out - that means you can't bid because bidding is over

if theyre white, b idding is open

[flat fractal]

Soo, i cant bid on any servers?

Idk, thanks ill figure it out.

I never had this issue before, used to bid all the time before top removed all the servers the first time.

[oak whale]

not right now at least. bidding is closed from 7pm utc monday to around 8pm utc on tuesday for paying for the new cycle

check back after 8pm utc tomorrow (approximately 24.5 hours from now)

and you should be able to bid on whatever youd like

[meager trout]

you have my blessing

[sturdy moat]

❤️

[flat fractal]

Okay, thanks. It was like that while bidding was active too. I'll give it some time and check back when it opens up again.

[sturdy moat]

Congrats on ur award btw

[heavy aspen]

[sturdy moat]

Very impressive

[meager trout]

i wanted 80k but too much competiction this week

[sturdy moat]

I need ur problems

[meager trout]

thank you Juan

@ staff i got scammed in auctions

you stole one view from me!

[heavy aspen]

literally unusable

[heavy aspen]

i'll go view it for you

[sturdy moat]

How do auction views work

Highest CPM get viewed first throughout the week?

Or random

[oak whale]

highest cpm is shown first for all their impressions, then down the leaderboard until either the cycle ends or there are no more bids

[hushed thunder]

why is the ctr declining every month?

two months ago it used to be 17% on music tag - slot 2

now it's not even a complete 9%

[meager trout]

i stole all your clicks

[hushed thunder]

damn

thats some good tag

[coarse lantern]

rookie numbers

[meager trout]

it's frontpage

something broke

58% CTR is unobtainable

[limpid cosmos]

^

[heavy aspen]

i fear top 2 is going to be a bloodbath today with that min bid

alternatively, nobody could touch it so i can have my cheap clicks

[limpid cosmos]

its been 15min guys, how much more

[limpid cosmos]

+2min

its ending again, I feel like someone will add time now

[meager trout]

it's me

[limpid cosmos]

and ofc

[meager trout]

hi

[limpid cosmos]

hehe

[meager trout]

i'll be back in 4 minutes, afk

[kindred skiff]

That was intense at the end there

[limpid cosmos]

yeah, like 20sec left

idk if I should continue

[kindred skiff]

I was fighting for what I thought was low hanging fruit in calendar and event tags

[limpid cosmos]

well, its pretty hard to beat ChronicleBot, they bid for this specific tag and they never leave it

its been 30min

[meager trout]

it's always like this every week

you are first time on front page?

[limpid cosmos]

I usually give up around 10min every week, Diva bot dev told me to bid in top voted

and yes, I think first time

I used to bid on Anime tag but they dont have enough impressions anymore

[meager trout]

i'm about to outbit idlequest

it's going to be long auciton

unless they will give up

[limpid cosmos]

its about either of you giving up

all other already gave up

[meager trout]

no, i'll fight until we get 50%/50% views 😆

will this be end ?

we are making history, the longest auction on topgg

[limpid cosmos]

lets hope IdleQuest give up

[meager trout]

15 seconds

5 seconds

[limpid cosmos]

finally

[meager trout]

gg

[limpid cosmos]

can sleep now

yes congrats

I just wanna see how my anime bot does in a general tag like top voted

I feel like I solved some of the "invite and remove within a few mins" problem by improving top.gg page

[meager trout]

new bots are far better than top voted

[limpid cosmos]

I tried new bots, I think top.gg has problem with the clicks count, it shows wayy too much clicks

but dont get invites at all

[meager trout]

their clicks was broken this week

if you see more than 10% click rate — it's fake

it's impossible to get more

[limpid cosmos]

this one for example

[meager trout]

you have working auctions history :oooo

[limpid cosmos]

I got 79 clicks from slot 1 without any views too

[limpid cosmos]

yep!

[meager trout]

i don't

[limpid cosmos]

I can go back to 2023

[coarse lantern]

Never had an issue with auction history

Make sure you don't have adblockers on

[limpid cosmos]

7.8k in 2023, 2.3k in 2026 (Anime tag)

impressions went so low

[meager trout]

the https://auctions.top.gg/actions/analytics/historical?index=0 api is broken on my account — it's loading infinietly

[limpid cosmos]

I blame this

[limpid cosmos]

Anime tag used to be on 3nd slot

now its at the end, doesnt even show up on phone without scroll

[tender wraith]

works for me w/ adblockers

[meager trout]

it's backend issue

i have the same thing on my chrome

i propably have one auction that crashes system

[ionic lagoon]

hey im looking for a graphic designer to my project if you into the topic please contact with me via dm

[tender wraith]

@muted cosmos ^

[violet trellis]

What's this channel about?

[lyric kayak]

how can pay for this?

[harsh kiln]

Can you add funds to your wallet account in auctions (or you can afterpay if you win). Then select an approved bot or server, from top.gg under "select a promotable"

as for CPM, I would refer you to this guide to truly understand how that works, but if you have any questions once you've read just ask

[zinc dragon]

CPM (Cost per Mille) Bidding

Please read more in our article here.

Jan 18, 2026, 9:34 PM

[sturdy moat]

Can't seem to select a promotable

[violet sand]

Hey, try waiting for a bit!
It tends to resolve itself after a while, unfortunately not much we can do before Auctions end.

[sturdy moat]

Yeah, it was just really slow

Ty

[cerulean holly]

ye didnt work for me

couldnt even do any auctions

[hearty swift]

Another week when i can't bid..

Of course no one bid...

..

[maiden vault]

btw, are services that straight up say that they sell members allowed on top.gg auctions

[earnest gyro]

What is auctions?

[zinc dragon]

Create Auctions Product

Learn how to create a custom product in our support article.

Jan 19, 2026, 7:31 PM

[harsh kiln]

Auctions is where you can advertise your bot or server on our top.gg website, and it's filtered higher in search results so more people see it. We offer a bidding style system to get top 2 search results on a certain keyword or tag that you can pick..

[earnest gyro]

Ah I see

Appreciate the explanation

[fiery comet]

How often are there auctions?

[violet sand]

Every week

[tender wraith]

@muted cosmos

@torn patio ^

[forest knoll]

scam, please do not interact ^^

[pearl edge]

Hey, there is an piracy Discord server in the auction. "IPTV" means stealing from artists & directors and its not legal in Italy and many jurisdiction

{"img":"https://cdn.discordapp.com/icons/1138838600105070592/https://cdn.top.gg/icons/799711728148111360/f19cd91b7e342d921b232c63.webp.png?size=256","name":"TVWORLD IPTV","id":"c2VydmVyOjExMzg4Mzg2MDAxMDUwNzA1OTI","discordId":"1138838600105070592","type":"server"}

The auctions they are in:
https://auctions.top.gg/?auction=78729
https://auctions.top.gg/?auction=78728

[violet sand]

ty, I'll have a look

[violet sand]

We're escalating internally

[hearty swift]

Can we please have a week where we can finally bid?

[pearl edge]

the employee said they're working on it

[hearty swift]

It s already 1 month when it s getting broken before end

[pearl edge]

Btw top.gg team, it seems to only happen after being already logged into Discord, it can redirect to Discord ok but then afterwards its a complete timeout https://check-host.net/check-report/37caeb38kdcb

[white bramble]

let it end the topopage slot 2 pls

last minute now again xD

[coarse lantern]

it must live on

[white bramble]

if more bid the time will restart

[limpid cosmos]

keep on refreshing, it works now and then

I just want to pay and go to sleep

[lyric kayak]

Hey

[low hinge]

Out of curiosity, how early stage would you guys want to test the new ads system with?

[drowsy meadow]

As early as right now cause im too curious

[celest fable]

I mean as long as it works.

[low hinge]

(optional)

[shut lagoon]

We don’t even want a UI, give us undocumented API endpoints

[low hinge]

tbf if u want undocumented api endpoints i could probably do that relatively quick LOL

[maiden vault]

give undocumented endpoints but 80% off

[low hinge]

Economics don’t work that way

If everyone gets 80% off then the bids just get 5x higher

[maiden vault]

Only people who find the endpoints 😉

[coarse lantern]

I'll send my API requests by carrier pigeon if that is what it takes to use it in the early stages

[low hinge]

Bet I’ll see what i can do asap

[coarse lantern]

Sounds good

[maiden vault]

will be more reliable than current auctions page :3

[coarse lantern]

Just put your bids in ahead of time

[maiden vault]

and then u outbid

on tags ur bot doesnt even do

[coarse lantern]

Those slots are very important to me

Especially ones that have nothing to do with my bot

[maiden vault]

maybe only do the most important then

[coarse lantern]

Need them all

[low hinge]

Fyi youre very unlikely to completely take over a slot moving forward

In the new system

Since instead of a linear approach we now do budget spreading + individual user view limits

[coarse lantern]

Will the new system automatically try to find the highest CTR slots for products? Or how exactly will this determination work?

Because my assumption is that you won't be bidding on slots and it would just be a budget right

[low hinge]

That’s optional

Either you let us optimise for you or tweak it yourself

[coarse lantern]

Gotcha

[coarse lantern]

If you tweak it yourself would that be more like a CPM or something like a weekly budget?

[low hinge]

Two ways to think about it but it revolves around the same idea:

1. you add a credit card and set you set a daily spending limit, and potentially let it run indeifitely
2. you pre-pay a campaign with a set end run date and we'll refund you the remainder that wasn't fulfilled at the end.

Afterwards you're free to change and experiment anything you want

though do keep in mind that things like automatic optimization, A/B testing will come out later, the initial MVP as I've shared before will somewhat match the auctions featureset right now. But the final product vision is in place

[coarse lantern]

Yeah that makes sense. I think it probably won't make much sense for me to question much about it since it's still very much in development, so I think I will just wait and find out. But yeah automatic optimization would be nice since it's really hard currently to bid on many slots on the current system effectively

[low hinge]

I'm always happy to talk about it

Better to get u guys the idea of where we're heading rather than sitting in the dark

I do understand that with the time taken - it sometimes feels like things just don't move and you guys have to play with the broken toy instead

but my general reservations are that I'm already spread thin between every market that top.gg surfaces, putting also effort on auctions right now would make everything else slower too

[coarse lantern]

Yeah I understand that's there's definitely a lot of work to do

[low hinge]

a quick top-of-mind list is like

• webhooks for servers (+ more)
• ads v2
• translations, features for non-english speaking countries
• anti-botting, fraud prevention
• moderation and reviewer tooling (+ visibility)
• improving business metrics
• reducing business costs

and ofc there's way more things, including the business accounting and general upkeep for owning a business

I gotta say some of those upkeep things were way easier back when I was doing it with medal as a parent company

[coarse lantern]

Fyi youre very unlikely to completely take over a slot moving forward in the new system
Since instead of a linear approach we now do budget spreading + individual user view limits

you add a credit card and set you set a daily spending limit, and potentially let it run indeifitely

One question on this, you mentioned before that there will be individual user view limits, does this mean a product would have a max amount of views on that slot before it switches to another product? If so, does this mean that you effectively would not be able to buy as much of a certain slot no matter what?

Trying to wrap my head around how exactly things will work if CPM is entirely abandoned. I'm not sure if you specifically mentioned it before.

[coarse lantern]

Yeah looking forward to a bunch of that, also eagerly awaiting the > 14 day analytics on the bot page

[low hinge]

we keep an eye on each individual session id, and make sure they do not see the same ad over and over if they keep coming back in a short time. But, we're also looking into paginated ads where if you scroll down a list, a new ad pops up. these kinda things makes it so that it makes no sense to repeat the same ad (highest bidder) over and over, and we'd rather show a variety of content to better understand what this user is looking for

keep in mind CPM/CPC/CPA etc is the industry standard, historically when I implemented things like the wallet, automatic bids, and cpm; my goal with auctions was to move the paradigm from auctions to automated bidding (with macros) to a CPM based bidding system. Which we're now just doing from scratch because after being out of top.gg for several years, it's highly unlikely for me to relearn everything ppl did after i left, then figure out how to get the thing stable again and all the deployment woes etc

[coarse lantern]

Ah okay, that makes a lot of sense. I can see that improving CTR quite a bit

[low hinge]

Yeah, it's how most ad exchanges handle that kinda stuff

I hope my theories will be proven right though 🙂

The nice thing is that we're far enough that this is a valid query on our API:

query listPageWithAds {
  entitiesV2(input:  {
     type: BOT
     sortOrder: MONTHLY_VOTES
  }) {
    advertisements(input:  {
       numAds: 1
    }) {
      title
      description
    }
    nodes {
      id
      shortDescription
      votes
    }
  }
}

[low hinge]

btw, pretty sure someone DDOSsed auctions last week. I've added some insanely high ratelimits purely because some devices fall back to polling. If you run into them please report it to me, but its highly unlikely (5k requests per minute)

[heavy merlin]

For anyone looking to bid on levelling/social slot 1.. Don't bother. I will literally bid 1k if I have to. You'd be best off fighting over slot 2.

[tranquil igloo]

Buddy I will drop 3k for that spot dont even bother

[heavy merlin]

lol ok go for it

3k for 4k views is crazy lmao

but you do you

[tranquil igloo]

Im just joking 😂

[heavy merlin]

haha

[coarse lantern]

I hear a challenge

[heavy merlin]

lmao

fine

[sleek raptor]

Haloo

[low hinge]

🫡 if anything weird happens today, please ping me

as a recap, I added a new ratelimit and the server hosting auctions is upgraded 3x

[meager trout]

@coarse lanternhave you seen it? one slot on fun tag 👀

[coarse lantern]

[upper lotus]

hey, if someone win the auction, only the first two bots are promoted? or 3

[oak whale]

all bots shown in white will be shown throughout the week. if theyre greyed out then they are not estimated to receive impressions

[hollow girder]

yoo the page works today

nvm spoke too soon

@low hinge soo promotable loaded once and thats it

[umbral kettle]

Me too doesn't work

[heavy merlin]

shit my bluff didnt work

[low hinge]

checking

[umbral kettle]

same issue

[hollow girder]

😭

[umbral kettle]

this right ?

[hollow girder]

yep

promotable loaded exactly 20min before auctions end and bye bye after i switched tag

[low hinge]

server seems fine

[hollow girder]

aaaaa

[low hinge]

can you check your network tab?

i dont see any issues on the serverside

[limpid cosmos]

now all back to normal ig?

[low hinge]

ignore ampl

[umbral kettle]

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[low hinge]

turn off your adblock

[hollow girder]

thers only some track route

i dont have an ad block idk if it was to me

[hollow girder]

it loads the promotable but gives me this

[low hinge]

show me some more info and i can help u 🙏

which auction are you trying to bid on

[umbral kettle]

oh yea !!

Adblock blocked it

works now

[hollow girder]

ticket slot 1

[meager trout]

noted to never trust you

[heavy merlin]

😂

🙈

[low hinge]

try swapping between the promotables to a different one and back to the bot, then try swapping the auction selected

it could be a local state issue in the client

[hollow girder]

i dont have another promotable

different slot doesnt work

[low hinge]

🤔

can u make one

[hollow girder]

refresh doesnt fix either so i doubt its client side

maybe imma clear my cookies

and relogin

[hollow girder]

ddos again?

[pearl edge]

Bid loads but the ability to query promotables is timing out due to long response times

[hollow girder]

WORKS

relogin fixzed

[low hinge]

does this only happen on create?

[pearl edge]

Yes

[low hinge]

are you logged in on this user?

[pearl edge]

I am 👍

[low hinge]

huh odd

you have no bots/servers on topgg?

no idea why it would be slow then 🤔

lemme check ur products

[low hinge]

who is outbidding me on a random server tag man

im just trying to debug some ad visibility stuff on servers lmao

[pearl edge]

These wildin' ticket bots bid in the most rando categories

[low hinge]

whatever gets u users man

[pearl edge]

So for example if active bids were saved in Redis and Promotables in a more permenant Postgresql, that could explain why promotables can sometimes not fetch successfully and active bids can

[low hinge]

nah

its all going directly to the db

it seems like an error with ur profile

[pearl edge]

Maybe some tables can get more frequent locks on them

[low hinge]

i doubt its the product table that gets locked

[pearl edge]

Yeah & it's multiple profiles, I saw the same error this guy saw "this product is invalid"

[low hinge]

their issue was resolved

was related to auth, not products

[pearl edge]

1. I went to bids page, it loaded but I couldn't see my product in the dropdown
2. I went to "Create" page and it couldn't load the whole page.
3. 5 minutes later, both pages started working again and no more 503 timeouts

[low hinge]

does it work now?

it could've been this: #site-status message

[pearl edge]

Yes, it started working 5 mins after the time period myself & others shared our error pictures

[low hinge]

overall, better this time gang?

[pearl edge]

Yes - less cloudflare pages, has topgg considered letting people set an auto-bid and then pick a max number for it to bid up to?

That could reduce the influx of people checking at the last second to secure their bids

[limpid cosmos]

I saw it in bid log, and I was like why not

[low hinge]

yeah we used to have this but it broke

[low hinge]

enjoy ur tag lol

itook the kpop one instead 😭

[limpid cosmos]

Ticket King bidding for Fun tag is very funny

[hollow girder]

just crash the auctions :3

[hollow girder]

hey, not all of them

[harsh kiln]

Good to know

https://tenor.com/view/nfl-gif-go-panthers-carolina-gif-12515947

[grand axle]

[meager trout]

i love watching frontpage bids

when it's about to close and then boom ticketking destroys competiction

[coarse lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-16565229595323670098

[coarse lantern]

Yes

[limpid cosmos]

frontpage people have it hard, still going on

[harsh kiln]

Bidders rn

[low hinge]

frontpage ppl are the lambo owners

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-yg-young-gangsta-keenon-daequan-ray-jackson-laugh-now-kry-later-gif-17346603

[grand axle]

can they stop

I wanna go eat

[low hinge]

me too i have a deploy or our core infrastructure

im just sitting here like

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-patrick-star-watch-patrick-star-time-patrick-patrick-watch-gif-24549688

[meager trout]

click deploy, what can go wrong

[low hinge]

cloudflare page

[low hinge]

thats a real snapchat of me

except i dont pay myself

[coarse lantern]

Short term loss for long term gain

[low hinge]

that's the idea

plus rice & curry powder isnt too bad

[violet sand]

look at this guy

he can still afford rice

what about ice soup

[low hinge]

i need the carbs

[meager trout]

i'm just waiting for idle quest to empty theirs bank account to get back to business

since i'm no longer bidding on the home page, my life is much better, my wife doesn't complain that she's hungry

[low hinge]

i think she can handle one more week without food

[meager trout]

next time

[low hinge]

🫡

funny talks guys

[meager trout]

DEPLOY!

[low hinge]

im glad auctions was more stable this time around!

[coarse lantern]

Doing better than me

[low hinge]

🤔

[coarse lantern]

Oh yeah true true

[low hinge]

tbh i understand that if u buy a lambo™ u wont be able to afford rice anymore

i respect the priorities hustle

[meager trout]

sadly i can't afford lambo rn, i need new house for my rolex collection

[coarse lantern]

What a gem of a sentence

[low hinge]

man i hate rolexes

too overhyped

i was looking for a shitty second hand one during my holiday and they're all overpriced as hell

[meager trout]

i don't wear watches, when i want to know the time i just ask my wife

[low hinge]

ok we get it ur married

[short gale]

[low hinge]

😂

[grand axle]

idk

don't think it will happen

[meager trout]

please, your money is limited

[grand axle]

Not really, no

[meager trout]

there is no infinite money glitch

it has to end at some point

[low hinge]

i hope we make u a profit tbh

[grand axle]

just keep robbing banks

[meager trout]

i think idle quest has no premium?

[grand axle]

Ain't looking for profit, I created a dark fantasy game because I am a fan of the genre and I want people to try it

that's all

[low hinge]

tbh i do like the aesthetic

I reached out but u ignored me >:[

[grand axle]

I never ignore anyone

[low hinge]

or was that ur co-worker

i dont remember

prolly someone else on the team

[grand axle]

Should've reach out to me

The rest on the team are employees

[meager trout]

you have paid employees and want no profit?

okey, maybe there is a money glitch here

[coarse lantern]

Whatever the opposite of profit is what we want

[grand axle]

yeh, we're 9 people

[meager trout]

i'm thinking how to compete with company that is always on dept but have no idea

[ornate ivy]

you can't

[coarse lantern]

I keep looking in here because there's unread messages and then I see nothing new

[tender wraith]

Spambots fr

Smh

[low hinge]

just for aspect im leaving another unread message here, hi aspect

[coarse lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/milan-sad-hands-on-head-zlatan-ibrahimovic-ibra-zlatan-gif-21608031

[fallow lodge]

[mossy wharf]

you have quite the opposite

[heavy aspen]

@lunar thicket gg

[lunar thicket]

GG

https://i.imgur.com/rDhzw22.png 👀 these should be enough

[heavy aspen]

veld rn

[lunar thicket]

💪

veld?

[low hinge]

me

[jovial ravine]

gg, everyone

[lunar thicket]

ah, what was he referring to, one of your auctions?

[low hinge]

he's joking that ur making me rich right now

[oak whale]

wheres ur bugatti

[lunar thicket]

absolute cinema

[heavy aspen]

post the minivan

[wanton palm]

i'm looking trying to start here but

aprox 4k impressions for 100$, and 35$ for 3898 impressiond

[tranquil igloo]

$100 over a moderation tag is crazy lmao

[lunar thicket]

not a lot though

considering the amount of impressions?

[ornate ivy]

13$ CPM is fine

Though, FYI, it's not in your best interest to be 3$ above the second

[coarse lantern]

I should have outbid it

[pearl edge]

"Unknown Product" 😅

[oak whale]

its because I switched it

I bid with a partnership product - then before the payment deadline ends, i swap it to the actual product

but because its not the same, it shows unknown product on the bid list for a bit

[pearl edge]

How do those work, does the partnerships email manually message people and notify them who has the highest bid?

Basically, who gets preference if 2 different bots email Top.gg partnership email about paying for the same section?

[lunar thicket]

will keep that in mind

Was in a rush

and i had like

4 other bids

[oak whale]

Currently we're not accepting new partnerships as we prepare for the launch of ads v2 -

but in the past, we would negotiate with those interested in the same position and indicate there was other interest in the same slot.

[maiden vault]

100$ for 4k impressions? lol

[shut lagoon]

prepare for the launch of ads v2
wait no my free ads

[oak whale]

[maiden vault]

Dw can still get delayed

[lunar thicket]

didn't really have any other options though did i

considering the others were right below me

[maiden vault]

atp don't even outbid, it's not even worth it like that

[lunar thicket]

its fine

i needed the sponsor anyway

[shut lagoon]

xiuh will break it just for me

ain't that right xiuh

[maiden vault]

gonna be broken for me too

[oak whale]

i dont break things veld does

[maiden vault]

Same as review report 😂

[shut lagoon]

that's because you don't have a william

[lunar thicket]

paid about 380$ for 15k

considering the VAT fee

[wanton palm]

I'm a bit clueless in this section but I have to ask.

why would a bot allowed to promotein a tag when they are not related to the keyword?

e.g. I'm testing something and testing different keywords a music bot pops up :p

[maiden vault]

cause they got money

[wanton palm]

sure I get that, but ain't that against marketing lol

[lunar thicket]

how much should i pay for lets say 30k impressions in total?

and that also means winning at least 30% of the times i do auctions

[oak whale]

your goal should be to have the lowest cpm possible while still receiving impressions

thats why hes saying its not worth it to outbid someone by 3cpm

you should outbid them by like - the minimum. which is a cent

unless theyre the lowest on the leaderboard, then the minimum kicks in which is usually 25 cents

[maiden vault]

it really depends on how much you get back from those ads

[wanton palm]

Xiuh, you are knowledgeable, isn't like

Impressions don’t equal engagement

[maiden vault]

sometimes 1 cent 😉

[wanton palm]

but targeting the proper keywords for example and getting 2k impressions /1k actual engagement, than targeting and getting 8k impressions but getting 1k engagement?

[oak whale]

if theyre the lowest winning bidder and your bid would knock them off, then this table applies:

[maiden vault]

bruce wayne ahh outbid

[maiden vault]

Not always

Sometimes it breaks

[oak whale]

if theyre not the lowest and theyre not being knocked off then it can be a cent

[lunar thicket]

as in servers or what

[maiden vault]

money

[lunar thicket]

i can get money back?

[maiden vault]

from stuff like premium yeah

[oak whale]

they mean turnover on your ads

not from top.gg

[lunar thicket]

this is my first time bro gotta speak a little easier

[maiden vault]

topgg cheap, so many ads and no money for us

[lunar thicket]

speaking greek rn

[maiden vault]

spend money to earn money

[oak whale]

velds gotta get his penthouse suite somehow

[maiden vault]

if u spend openai money to make openai money, stop

[lunar thicket]

i spent about 380$ for these

[maiden vault]

fair fair

bad bids

[lunar thicket]

how so

[maiden vault]

U spent too much imo

[wanton palm]

holy

[lunar thicket]

what LOL

[maiden vault]

2% ctr on top voted, even I as a ticket bot got more haha

try more targetted tags

[lunar thicket]

well to be fair the campaign just started

[wanton palm]

moderation tag slot 1, 11 clicks

[oak whale]

ads have been live for 15 minutes

[lunar thicket]

1 hour and 15

actually

[wanton palm]

Eh I don't know a lot but still

[oak whale]

they dont go live right at 7pm utc

it takes up to an hour for caching, etc

[maiden vault]

nah i think its 23h cycle (yk what i mean shut)

[lunar thicket]

i started getting joins about an hour ago?

[oak whale]

yeah thats why i said up to

so we usually go from 8pm utc

just in case

[lunar thicket]

how much did i waste though realistically

[maiden vault]

like 200$

[lunar thicket]

💀

[wanton palm]

255*

[wanton palm]

I seen the image he sent

[lunar thicket]

isnt this pretty decent

[oak whale]

anything above 5% ctr is pretty decent imo

[maiden vault]

this is what i call good ctr

I asked and ticket tag rn 62%

[lunar thicket]

are you deadass with the 200$ though LMFAO

[maiden vault]

yeah

u got scammed

[lunar thicket]

aura

[maiden vault]

by urself

[lunar thicket]

what other options did i have though

i already put it on moderation and other related tags

[forest knoll]

hehe rookie numbers

[maiden vault]

bid less but for longer

[maiden vault]

dammit :/

[lunar thicket]

wdym by that

g

[maiden vault]

u gonna run out of money at some point

if you go like this every week

[lunar thicket]

not really seeing any other options though as the other bidders were almost right below me in most auctions

[forest knoll]

did someone see that? @oak whale perhaps?

if not check logs someone needs a fat ban

[wanton palm]

then skip ?

[oak whale]

@ripe ermine

.b 978371379172896829 support scam

[forest fox]

Banned biettodj

[lunar thicket]

if i just keep skipping how do you expect me to get the bot on the frontpage

lmao

[wanton palm]

sure fair enough, but bidding on a slot for 100$ and getting below ~5%? idk I'm not a marketing expert lol

[lunar thicket]

in ctr? well it just started

so you dont really know yet

[wanton palm]

eh, i'm a cheapskate so

don't take my word for it tbf 😂 just trying to learn

[oak whale]

cheapskate*

[wanton palm]

thanks

[lunar thicket]

ah you’re the tickety guy

that i was on auctions with pretty sure

[maiden vault]

Frontpage is mehh

Most will skip it

[maiden vault]

idk

[lunar thicket]

🤷‍♂️

[maiden vault]

I don't do the bidding so

[lunar thicket]

i had to learn somehow lmfao i guess this is pretty common when its my first time anyways

[coarse lantern]

That's it?

[forest knoll]

oh boy let's see the ticket king numbers

show us how it's done

[coarse lantern]

Oh you do not want to see my numbers

It's bad

[lunar thicket]

are you deadass

did i spend 380$ for the bot to be on the frontpage for just a few hours

and for 30 joins

💀

[oak whale]

you purchase the amount of impressions - if that goes in a few hours then it goes in a few hours

[lunar thicket]

200$ for 30 joins

interesting

[oak whale]

the front page is low in terms of ctr since most people open the website and start searching or click on a category tag - not so much click the first bot they see

[lunar thicket]

yeah moderation tag has the most

[lunar thicket]

still should be a way to prevent ur users spending 200$ for just a few joins 🤷‍♂️

[oak whale]

its an advertisement platform based on impressions - we can't guarentee joins

even if someone clicks on your ad doesnt mean its a join

its not possible for us to track or guarentee that

[lunar thicket]

ill check ctr in a bit

[lunar thicket]

Any idea what the email for top.gg's support may be

[oak whale]

[e-mail]

[lunar thicket]

yeah still an extreme lack of protecting users against this

[oak whale]

im not sure we need to protect people? we make it very clear youre purchasing impressions

[lunar thicket]

If we go under the EU consumer law, in a way, yes

Would an average, first-time buyer reasonably understand that ‘front page’ exposure might last only hours?

[oak whale]

I would say a reasonable person would understand that if they purchase a few thousand impressions on the front page of an extremely largely-visited site such as Top.gg that it would go pretty quickly yeah. Imagine if you bought a few thousand impressions on Google's home page.

[lunar thicket]

i definitely see the comparison but i think that’s where the expectation gap comes from though, platforms like you mentioned, such as Google give clear pacing controls and delivery estimates, so advertisers understand how long exposure might last. With Auctions placements are labeled as things like “Front Page – Top Voted,” but there’s no time estimate or warning that the exposure may realistically last only hours.

🤷‍♂️

So if you compare it with Google, Top.GG is quite off.

[oak whale]

I agree. Thats what our new ads platform - coming in the next few months - is addressing. The current version of auctions is still in beta.

But per our agreement you purchased impressions and we delivered them

[lunar thicket]

yeah and you’re right about that part, under the agreement, you’re partly protected, since i technically purchased impressions and they were delivered. But under Norwegian and EU consumer law, contracts cannot override basic consumer protection as far as i am aware of. Even if the metric was delivered? a service can still be misleading in practice if a reasonable first-time advertiser could not anticipate how quickly front-page exposure would burn out, or that there’s no pacing control.

and that expectation gap is exactly why i reached out here, to you. it’s mostly about the fact that the practical delivery not matching reasonable expectations honestly... not about ROI or guaranteed results

if that somewhat makes sense

[oak whale]

I gave you our support email, feel free to reach out with your legal information and contact if that is what you wish to do

[lunar thicket]

yes i have, i'll wait 👍

appreciate the respectful conversation

[coarse lantern]

It's your job to understand what you are paying for

[lunar thicket]

Under EU consumer law, not fully. i explained this in the paragraph

[fast orchid]

Did you purchase the views as a business or as an individual.

[lunar thicket]

individual

[coarse lantern]

It's about the purpose, the purpose of the transaction would be to promote a business and gain users. That's a commercial transaction regardless of whether you're a registered company or an individual. Under EU law, consumer status is determined by the purpose of the purchase, not who you are.

So I'm pretty sure what you are saying does not have any affect

[low hinge]

While I acknowledge that auctions has room for improvement on mostly everything, I don't believe your claim here has grounds on anything; mainly because of:

1. we have set bidding limits for new users, as you mention; which actively limits how much you can spend on the platform at a time.

2. We are transparent about both estimated views, clicks, and the views you will receive multiple times during your purchase flow.
   Three times during bidding (estimated views/clicks on the category, the impressions + spending limit set in your bid, and then a confirmation of the number of views you are estimated to receive on the button to press to make the bid.

3. We have a trove of articles in our support helpdesk which explain the bidding in layman's terms, have active graphs to help you understand the flow before you make a bid. And while active in the community, support members to ask questions to, who can explain, and guide you through the process.

I understand that you may feel scammed, and I feel for you on that regard - but I feel it's a bit of a heavy statement to consider this anti-consumer.

[lunar thicket]

you're pretty much supporting my case in this

[coarse lantern]

It's not, because the EU consumer law does not support your case

You got the impressions you paid for. The front page has high traffic, so they delivered fast. That's not a flaw, that's how high-traffic placements work. The CTR and joins not meeting your expectations is an ROI issue, not a legal one

[lunar thicket]

Sure technically it’s a commercial transaction i get that. But the point isn’t about consumer law per se. It’s about practical fairness and clarity is it not though? the auction system presented “Front Page – Top Voted” placements with no pacing, no time estimates, and no warning that exposure could burn out in hours. Even for a commercial buyer, that’s a reasonable expectation gap pretty much

[lunar thicket]

Bidding limits did not help as i put it on multiple auctions

let me reply to the rest in a minute

[fast orchid]

I love how this is over like 380 bucks when I looked at the sales marketing spend I used to agree on quaterly lol

[coarse lantern]

Well you're just moving the goalpost now. You brought in EU and Norwegian consumer law so it automatically became legal, this is a very different claim then what you said originally. For clarity, the platform shows you estimated impressions and estimated clicks before you bid. You know exactly how many impressions you're buying for your budget. "Front Page" is the highest traffic placement on the site. If you're buying a small number of impressions on the highest traffic page, it doesn't take a marketing expert to figure out they'll go fast.

[low hinge]

I think what's best is to move this conversation to a ticket - I don't think it's very productive to have multiple different arguments over the matter 😅

[lunar thicket]

thanks for the response. i’m not disputing that impressions were technically delivered. The issue is material omission.

the bidding flow does not clearly disclose that front-page impressions are not paced, nor that delivery can complete within hours. The difference between “X impressions” and “X impressions that may be delivered almost immediately with no duration guarantee” is material to a first-time advertiser’s economic decision.

Per Norwegian marketing law and EU rules on misleading commercial practices (including B2B), omission of material information can be unlawful regardless of consumer status. Single-auction limits also didn’t prevent aggregate overspend across multiple placements.

Which of course, the rest can be discussed in the ticket, i'd just like to reply all of the current replies i've received in this chat.

[lunar thicket]

I’m not relying on consumer law alone. Even in commercial transactions, EU and Norwegian law prohibit misleading commercial practices and material omissions. The issue isn’t ROI it’s that the auction flow did not disclose pacing or delivery time, nor warn that a “Front Page” placement could fully burn in a few hours. That time dimension is material information. saying “X impressions” without clarifying how fast they may be delivered creates a reasonable expectation gap, especially for first-time advertisers. which i'd say is a transparency issue, not a marketing skill issue whatsoever, in all honesty 🤦‍♂️

[lunar thicket]

Sounds good

[lunar thicket]

Got a partial refund, 10/10 website, 10/10 customer service

[grand axle]

All this and I can't even have GIF in my profile picture

[harsh kiln]

"There was a moment last year where we tried to experiment with them but it didnt work out well in terms of results. In the future we may allow for gif avatars that animate on hover but theres a bit more work involved on that." - Veld

[zinc dragon]

Auctions Support

These tickets are for help with Top.gg Auctions questions only. Please use #support or #staff-tickets for any non-Auctions-related issues.

Feb 11, 2026, 4:59 PM

[meager trout]

The Discord bot market is incredibly brutal; you paid only $255; we used to pay $800 for 100 servers

rn there are a lot of competition for ads, so prices go real high

[low hinge]

100% fair yeah.

its insane rn. after my current project improving ads is the top prio :)

so I will expect that will help y'all lower cost per invite

[wanton palm]

was gonna say something, but I'll zip it and wait for the new auctions 🙂

[low hinge]

Next up is ads :)

[maiden vault]

When reviews report fix

[low hinge]

its fixed

[maiden vault]

:o

[north lagoon]

Meaning out of 100 ad clicks, 80 would result in new server adds?

[ornate ivy]

Only clicks, it doesn't mean that once they're on the invite page, they'll invite the bot

[north lagoon]

You just achieved saying nothing by saying something

[brittle carbon]

That's what 80% means yes

But don't take 2 year old data and run with it all I'll say now is I pay every month for back to back ads because my project can afford it and does better when I have them. Last time I worked it out I was technically profitable on the ads. Doesn't mean you'll see the same results. If you're serious about advertising a Discord bot, Top.gg is the only place worth putting your money. None of the other lists are worth it (I've tried them).

And I've tried Google ads but they don't work unless you have tens of thousands to spend

I've been paying for ads on Top.gg since 2022 though and always been satisfied. Even when there have been issues the team is always helpful and understanding.

[north lagoon]

Thanks for responding. Of course, a lot can change in 2 years; I'm almost frustrated that so many people don't have common sense so the general principle is to always include some type of "disclaimer" like "things might be different for you" but it is what it is. Regarding other listing platforms, yeah I think top.gg has the best ROI by far, however there are also other advertising channels, will see how it compares to that. What do you think of Reddit ads? If properly targeted, I think good results should be achievable.

[brittle carbon]

I've spoken to other large bot devs who have tried reddit and i know they got clicks. Idk if they were satisfied with the conversion rate or quality of the traffic though.

Reddit was definitely a better option than the other bot lists or Google at the time though

Was a year or two ago and Reddit has grown A LOT since then so results may vary

I'd try it out with a big enough budget you wouldn't feel bad losing if I were you just to see what it can do

[north lagoon]

Got it, I appreciate the insight!

[ornate ivy]

Very nice, a pleasure to help you. I was directly answering your question by saying that a 80% click rate doesn't mean that all of those people are going to invite the bot, it's just clicks.

[north lagoon]

But that's not what the initial message was referring to

80% was not the CTR

it was 80% CR from the CTR

[ornate ivy]

That's my bad

[north lagoon]

so you literally misunderstood stuff, but thanks for helping i guess?

[ornate ivy]

But I would've preferred you to explain this instead of sending this message 🥲

It was not very nice

[north lagoon]

You replied on your own discretion, I reached out to a different person, not you. So it's reasonable to expect that you would inform yourself first, right?

[low hinge]

My only two cents that i can give is that top.gg is simply the best place to advertise your bot purely because of one reason: people already go there with the intent of getting a bot

[coarse lantern]

True

[frank harness]

hey, been years since I used this, are server auctions entirely dead?

[harsh kiln]

They aren’t as common as bot auctions, but no they aren’t dead.

[north lagoon]

these are the estimates

[frank harness]

so only 2 tags really, that's unfortunate, thank you :)

[low hinge]

Theres not a lot of ads right now. The traffic isnt dead we just dont track it if theres no ads

[frank harness]

I see, makes sense

auctions close in 25h?

[low hinge]

Yes

[maiden vault]

u forgot about unflag sir.
But report does work now!

[low hinge]

mainly because i didnt work on that endpoint 🙂

[lunar thicket]

21% CTR? 💀

[harsh kiln]

lower the impressions easier to get a higher CTR

still pretty good though

[stable plover]

I'm pretty sure the CTR is not accurate

I've noticed that sometimes I get clicks before the ads are even live

Also, if you bid for a category and you don't win any spots it still shows in campaign history and it says you got clicks

[limpid cosmos]

yes, funny ones

[north lagoon]

is this a common problem?

[oak whale]

Im not sure what the exact problem is but I believe this is caused by some kind of clicking on the promotable in the auctions website (like you clicking on it to bid with) causes the clicks to also go up in the tracking.

There are other things too that cause the clicks to go up small amounts when the ad isnt truly live yet.

its been a problem for a while that we haven't been able to fix

[north lagoon]

but if these metrics are unreliable, don't you think that affects transparency and legitimacy?

[oak whale]

because we dont charge you per click, our main focus has been on ensuring that impressions are reliable. ive not seen reports that the clicks waver more than 50-60 at a time, which is fairly miniscule. but, we understand thats still not great for customers, so it is a main focus for ads v2 (coming soon™ )

[north lagoon]

I understand, however, then how would one be able to see the actual results of the impressions which were bought? (ea. knowing whether paying for X makes sense)

[oak whale]

Thats your determination to make, we dont have any influence on your choices. What makes sense for one person might not for another, its not just a numbers decision

If you feel that the click numbers being ever so slightly unreliable affects your choices then i recommend not bidding until ads v2 releases

[north lagoon]

When do you estimate ads v2 will be available? Also, I find it interesting that you seem to be contempt with "ever so slightly" unreliability if the entirety of your business model revolves around that, which is fine by me, I'm just doing a thought exchange with you.

[north lagoon]

For instance, the entirety of this data is not usable

[oak whale]

Ads v2 will release in the next few months! The current auctions site is in beta and has been for a long time - its also not written very well, making bug fixes extremely difficult, which is why we're doing a full overhaul with ads v2. Some things ive had to accept and understand come with the current state of the project. I completely understand and empathize with users who don't want to deal with our bugs and issues and will straight up tell you to stop bidding.

[low hinge]

Hello <@&556148669242408971>, As you know, our next major focus is ads v2. we're soon starting our first private test. Please submit this form if you're interested! https://forms.gle/8HyyrWBKc7NXSNVs5

[severe hollow]

clicks the link
sees money
closes

[low hinge]

that means it works :)

[severe hollow]

😂😂😂

That's crazy

[shut lagoon]

it's a brilliant spam deterrent

[severe hollow]

Ofc it is, veld made it

[brittle jewel]

@low hinge can we count on adding new, region-specific payment methods? For example Przelewy24, BLIK for Poland?

[tender hinge]

that was quick 👀 hell yea

[fallow lodge]

i'm so down to test

i need an excuse to advertise my bot again lol

[empty copper]

xD

[severe hollow]

😂

[golden cipher]

good night mates

[dusky walrus]

whats goin on with these auctions this week

[coarse lantern]

?

[hybrid quartz]

I've never seen a 100$ / 100$ bid

Interesting

[coarse lantern]

Happens a lot when people don't know what they're doing

[fallow lodge]

they'll ask for a refund

[low hinge]

zzz

its so annoying man

[fallow lodge]

i've suggested popups in the past

and the suggestions magically got deleted at the time

[low hinge]

it was considered i believe

[fallow lodge]

lul found it

pretty sure it had a screenshot example too

[coarse lantern]

There should be a max CPM for new accounts

I have a feeling that these people either don't end up paying or ask for a refund like bun said and it just ruins it for others

[hybrid quartz]

probably around 20$ is fine, no point in bidding higher than that

[coarse lantern]

Yeah $20 (maybe even $10-15) is a realistic ceiling for new accounts. I've never seen people bid higher than that realistically unless it's for slots that you would get really great CTR from

[lunar thicket]

https://i.imgur.com/AVOKPzE.png 💀

[hybrid quartz]

You're late to the party

[hybrid quartz]

Well I guess I'm cooked

never bid on the auction before approval

[low hinge]

Make a ticket, there should be a way we can resolve this for you

Aka, we can swap the ad to something else you may wanna advertise

[hybrid quartz]

Oh, No its fine actually

Our bot is not approved yet, I was advertising through products so I can just divert it to something else (the post was for the fun, not to retract my bids)

[low hinge]

Fair enough

🫡

[gritty spoke]

im confused, a few years ago i placed a great ad for an art server, but i was looking at the site and it says 0 for most categories, has the site turned away from servers to focus on bots?

[oak whale]

We don't currently count impressions for that average if it has no ads on it. So they say 0 because they haven't had ads on them recently (the past 4 weeks)

[gritty spoke]

i would think art would a big enough category for ads every week no?

is discord itself just... for lack of a better word stupid?

so if i were to do one, how would i know how effective it would be? last one i did, it flooded the server and killed the drive of my mods

server is mostly dead now

[oak whale]

You will still get impressions and clicks, we just have no data for estimations so they all say zero

[gritty spoke]

so i could get 1, or i could get 10,000? i dont understand im sorry

i wanna say i bid $20 before, does that mean i got 20k impressions?

[oak whale]

it depends on your CPM - $1 @ 20 would get you 20k impressions

if the slot gets that in a week

you should bid what you feel comfortable spending and then you would have better data after the week is over

[gritty spoke]

so up to, based on the traffic

ok

[oak whale]

exactly

even if you prepay over what you would get, you'll get refunded in credits the difference

[gritty spoke]

so if its in the art category, that they would have had to search for, 20,000 people saw my server at the top

cause eventhough its not front page, the click ratio would be way higher

[oak whale]

usually CTR (click through rate) is higher on targeted tags. i can tell you likely that art tag is not gonna get 20k views, not on the server side

id expect a few thousand if that

people looking at the art tag are looking for an art server, so if you fit the bill and youre first on the page you're likely to get clicks

[gritty spoke]

so then the advice is to start low and work up

[oak whale]

definitely yes

[gritty spoke]

oh we did and id say at least 300 joins in a week, back in like 2022

compared to then, has discord traffic slowed for all sites?

especially with the ID verification soon

[oak whale]

based on your screenshot above, it looks like top page averages around 700 clicks and front page around 100 so id be surprised if a smaller tag like art got 300 clicks

though i obviously have no concrete data for art tag

[gritty spoke]

also the screen i posted was not the previous ad, its just current

the ad i placed isnt even on my history

[oak whale]

yeah 2022 was a long time ago

[gritty spoke]

to clarify, ad would be at the top of this list?

[oak whale]

yepp

[gritty spoke]

so the top filer is the number of votes? does the ad extend to the other filters like member count?

[oak whale]

itll look the same as the ones on bot pages -

[gritty spoke]

on the sorting filter

[oak whale]

top filter is top voted yes

[gritty spoke]

does the ad show on other sort filters or just top

[oak whale]

all of them

[gritty spoke]

ok so for ex if someone wanted a big server with alot of people, the ad would show above them, gotcha

[oak whale]

yuep yep

[gritty spoke]

wait, does this mean 1 impression for $1?

[oak whale]

1 @ 1 would get you 1k impressions

if there were impressions to get

CPM (the first number) is cost per mile, where mile = thousand

[gritty spoke]

so $1.00 = 1000, and the total bid is $1?

[oak whale]

yes

you would pay 1 dollar for 1,000 impressions

[gritty spoke]

do different tags have different cpms?

[oak whale]

all of them start at 1 cpm or a little higher, depending on what the highest last week bid was, up to a max of 5 dollars