#auctions-general
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What happens of someone bids on an auction and wins and doesn't pay for it?
i believe it goes to the next bidder
hope i don't have to compete with those who pay more than what i can pay
so i can promote my roleplay super tool project
time to outbid u
There are many tags. If one is too active look for another one. Also you can get some impressions with a high CPM and low budget
Like music tag
Music tag spot 2: 10k impressions for 15$
guys, what impressions do?
An impression is someone viewing your ad
i see
no pun intended
God i thank you for making my business a success after all the struggle has been passing through making sales, God I thank you 🙏
@slender sparrow None of that
Which god are you praying to
I would love some of that God money
-b @nova musk dropship scam
babylon0789#0 was successfully banned.
A lot of people don't realise, that all these Shopify screenshots are real. But you can manually input sales into your Shopify store, even if they didn't happen. Simulating inflated numbers
¯_(ツ)_/¯
nope
Sad day
Makes sense. So I can see it as long as I’m chilling there, but once I leave it’s gone?
yes
cloudfare bad gateway during crunch time
Who owns giveaway boat
I topped up and got a cloudflare bad gateway on callback after checking out and the money isn't in the account. Hopefully they handle retries from fastspring lol 😳
can you create a ticket otherwise
quick question, do you still get free credits for auctions
nope those were removed
@jade oak
Auction Credits
Credits have been removed.
For more information, refer to #announcements message
hi everyone

where can i find a coupon code?
it also appears I have an unpaid open payment from the time credits were removed and I was charged for extra impressions which I couldn't cover with the credits because they were removed. so would be nice ot get that covered from a coupon code at least..
usually given through giveaways
open a #auctions-tickets please
I did
bidding is closed for 24 hours after the auction ends.
$40 in ads. Not bad at all.
For a bot, do you generally get better results if you create an ad with your own website or if you just use the topgg bot page?
Really depends. From a user perspective, it depends if they want to click to read more about the bot or click to invite it
if they intend to invite it they will need to find the invite button on your ad page
so make sure that's visible
As for actual results, I'm not certain
It has been 3 months since Amazon pay was removed from payment method, I contacted via tickets and was told that it will be implemented after platform migration. I contacted fastspring and was told the team just needs to do a internal request to re-enable it. I just want to know, that if this migration takes a year, then we (who only have amazon pay as payment method) have no way to promote on top.gg?
I have some or other issues with other payment methods and only amazon pay used to work. I really hope we don't have to wait that long, just for one internal request which will take few minutes to do.
I just want to grow my bot, I am not able to do any ads since 3 months now. I hope there is some hope or possible date available.
This is just a request.
trying to buy ads with the amazon gift cards u scammed?
Sorry but that feels like you are calling me a scammer
It's my hard earned money
I hope words are chosen carefully next time!
And sometimes it's better to mind your own business when you don't know anything about what's going on instead of trying to troll someone
Man people went crazy this week on auctions
Something i usually get for like 2-2.50 CPM was like 4+
I won 2 slots of the same tag by mistake D:
Bump ^^
I can pass your question on to one of our developers to look into 
Please do
I hope there is a solution to this
like, what top page is announcing
not sure what a "top page" is in this sense
like there is the option of Top page announcement
yes
this one in image
oh this is auctions
yeah
oh
sometimes i wonder
why some bot developers put their bot auction into things that isn't suppose to be?
like, there is a moderation bot being aucted in roleplay bot auction
some people just want impressions, they dont really understand that people are less likely to click if they dont want that kind of bot
and then i and the other guy have to pay the duck
that person makes aucting annoying, cus you auct for a thing, just to someone auct the same thing just for views that have nothing related
I mean there's nothing you can do about it
Bidding on tags that your bot isn't related to?
yeah
like, moderation bot inside roleplay tag
I don't mind but I guess I can see where you're coming from
or roleplay bots in the rpg tag 
as in "i'll be your virtual gf" bots
i see
yup, i saw a guy in slot 2 top voted that was 2 below me go like 0.10 higher than the previous guy in the last few minutes
it was so dirty lmfao
yeah, always is with good auctions
same
jesus
This infuriates me
so we are in the same boat more or less
Hey
@random pelican
have the ads started now? my ad isnt showing in analyze
Itll show in analyze once it actually goes live. The payment window ends at 7pm utc and ads usually start to go live around 8pm utc (in 40 ish minutes)
ah alright
i thought so too when i saw it
So what happens if I bought out the entire tag, and 3 days in I've exhausted the impressions? Does the slot just become unpopulated, or do I have the opportunity to pay for the rest of the impressions until the end of the week?
that was me lol

he started bidding +0.25 first
force? 
yup, im not sure but they could do if they put in the terms or risk account ban
not 100% sure if they do or not
how bidding actually works like 2 person can won a single bid?
look in support
It’s cuz people don’t understand how it works lol
It keeps going and then they bill you for the extra impressions
But if you don't understand why not learn before wasting money like that
Cuz the majority of people in this world are dumb lol
i agree, even being considered intelligent you still makes many dumb misstakes and can ends doing the same misstake until stop, i am a proof of that, i made so many dumb misstakes
Bro $100 in my currency is like
149,00 and that's crazy fr
Yh people make mistakes but you always start small
Yeah but that mistake is just negligence
Exactly
oh so what is the difference of negligence and misstake?
Making mistakes that are clearly avoidable
Mistake is maybe he meant to type 10 and hit an extra 0. Negligence is deliberately not knowing what you’re doing and you do it anyways
cus i'm the type who tries to do the right way but ends up forgetting and keep doing the wrong way
That's probably both 😂
like i only learn when i get used to it
100 for 100 is definitely negligence lol. There are a handful that do this or bid high. Just doesn’t make sense
Yh like at least $20 for $100
I’m getting 10k views for like $15 on the tending new. The person who bids highest just gets the views first
and then ends in debit
And people don't understand that
I am on like 8 different ads for only $40, 25k impressions
Damn teach me
It’s about conversion rate.
I normally do $50 for like 25k
Impressions mean nothing if you don’t get clicks
guess that's only to outbid peoples
True so you need catchy titles or names
You need to advertise in the right niche and have a catchy small intro
while smash others
Fair enough but do videos help?
hope this time people don't outbid me for the sake of impressions
That only matters if they click your bot
My page has a detailed explanation, screenshots, and a list of all commands and what they do
well, in my page i do the same for the few commands it has, and for macros i have a link just for teaching it
I can give feedback sure
thought when i had the idea of macros peoples said that idea would floop cus people don't want complicated things, but it was rather easy and intuitive, like how i plan to, make a macro creation system intuitive
also @north vigil can you do the same?
look at my bot page and rate it?
Yeah I just need a link or something to your bots page
Blue Bot: Your All-in-One Discord Companion. AI, Economy Management, and Moderation - Elevate Your Server Experience Today!
here https://top.gg/bot/1145338391530049596
(( if i'm doing it illegally sorry ))
A roleplay super tool bot made for RP and RPG servers
I’m just a normal member so idk lol
I like this, but when I’m looking for a bot I really like to know what commands are available. Yours also has a lot to read. People in general hate reading. I’d try and make things a little more concise. Seems like your bot offers a lot, but how it’s better or different remained a little unclear.
Hmm you have a point
why not make a documentation for it?
like git book
you can make it reading-friendly for laypersons
Your right I can do that
But is there a website that can assist
With stuff like that
This was hard. A lot of grammatical and spelling errors. Everything was jumbled, and there’s no flow. It’s just random info here and there.
i already said, gitbook
yeah, english is not my first language XD
Lemme see
Use Microsoft word or something to help! Or even Google docs. It’ll proof it for you
Your bot page is really good
Organization is super important
It’s just simple HTML code
Presentation means everything
Fr
I will invite a bot that has a good page over one that doesn’t, even if there isn’t a lot of servers it’s in
Yh yours has 700 servers right?
740 now. I need to sync the API
Ohhh ok
Just did it, should update momentarily
Do you use js or py?
js
Ok lemme get something
const { AutoPoster } = require("topgg-autoposter");
const { ActivityType } = require("discord.js");
const axios = require("axios");
module.exports = {
async execute(client) {
// Initialize the Top.gg Auto Poster
const ap = new AutoPoster(process.env.TOPGG_TOKEN, client);
// Function to update bot stats via HTTP
async function updateBotStats() {
try {
const response = await axios.post(
`${process.env.API_BASE_URL}/api/v1/update-stats`,
{
botid: client.user.id,
stats: {
serverCount: client.guilds.cache.size,
userCount: client.users.cache.size,
channelCount: client.channels.cache.size,
},
},
{
headers: {
Authorization: `Bearer ${process.env.CLOVEN_TOKEN}`,
},
}
);
console.log("Bot stats updated successfully:", response.data);
} catch (error) {
console.error(
"Error updating bot stats:",
error.response?.data || error.message
);
}
}
// Set initial presence
const presenceOptions = {
type: ActivityType.Watching,
name: `${client.guilds.cache.size} servers and /help`,
};
client.user.setPresence({ status: "idle", activities: [presenceOptions] });
// Listen for 'Update' events to refresh presence and stats
client.on("Update", () => {
const presenceOptions = {
type: ActivityType.Watching,
name: `${client.guilds.cache.size} servers and /help`,
};
client.user.setPresence({
status: "idle",
activities: [presenceOptions],
});
// Update bot stats via HTTP
updateBotStats();
});
updateBotStats();
// Top.gg Auto Poster event handlers
ap.on("autopost-start", () => {
console.log("Started auto posting stats to Top.gg!");
});
ap.on("posted", () => {
console.log("Posted stats to Top.gg!");
});
},
};
Thanks! I’ll get this added
No problem
So does this post something somewhere and tells you the count has been updated?
Oh it’s just in the terminal
Lemme look at the auctions page for any negligent actions
It posts automatically to top.gg
Yh just terminal
But remove stuff about cloven it's my discord bot development company
okay so i used google docs and it shows no error
Auction general is not the ideal channel for code support
My father's funeral is Monday. Most likely I will not be online bidding near crunch time.
My condolences for your loss. Try to get some decent bids in beforehand 
So sorry
-partnerships
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/claim
why roleplay tag is so disputed?
Lots of roleplay bots bidding?
search dropdown is the spot when you open up the search box and dont type anything
this spot
i wish i could drop my bot in roleplay search
ah shit
why can't i just have a normal bidding and get annopuncement?
do i need to assault a bank?
lol
hey @oak whale how biddings works?
like, it's hard to compete with those who have more money than me
Thats going to be a problem no matter how much you know about bidding
But you can read our support articles on how our bidding system workds
i see
How much does the top 1 slot on front page go for these days?
btw just wanted to let you know https://support.top.gg/support/solutions/articles/73000612450-auctions-partnerships doesn't work is that intended? (its the link about reading more)
@oak whale ^ meant for you not luca
I'll check it in a few
i wonder what happens if someone outbids it
it isn't possible 
not possible you say, hold my beer /j
Is there a set prices for partnerships?
No, it depends on the slot and the timeframe they want the partnership for
thats just a placeholder bid
Knew bots were popular, but to fork over that much nahhhh
👀
Why not just make it impossible to outbid them normally?
That makes it seem top.gg is earning more than they actually are
We dont have the developer capacity currently to do that 
icic fair enough
forgor its basically veld and a few others
dk if its even a few others
rn theyre working on the main site stability and performance.
yuh
after thats done, i believe theyll focus on auctions
how to make bot more clickable?
I just checked and remembered that we unpublished the article because we put partnships on pause 
ill check w/ veld to see if thats something we can offer again before re-publishing the article
No wonder I haven’t gotten an email response back lol
Ahaha
Hi?
Hi
Hi
Please make the open payments detection faster 
Yea bro thats true.
Do bots still earn credits for auctions every 1,000 votes and for the first 101 votes?
My bot discord is French, is there a place where I can display my bot's advertising in auctions visited by a majority of French people?
no
(to vote credits)
and auctions dont have localisation atm
the site as a whole barely supports it
okay so guess i understood how buds works
if you bid you conpete for impressions
but if the impressions are limited only the ones with high bids get the place to the search
or better
get the place for impressions
but if there are a lot of impressions for everyone and noone can pay all the bids at once, it can hold place for impressions for everyone
@gusty dome no advertising here, thank you
@oak whale erm
What happens if I bid but fail to pay when needed?
You risk being banned from participating in auctions in the future
The moment you want to bid again but notice you have open payments that didnt got resolved last time 
Jesus this better be worth it
Who owns Camelot who I was in a bidding war with?
That VAT is crazy
hm?
oh
well I'm glad we could settle for a split relatively early 
sometimes people just keep going and going 
ye we did well on the games tag, fair split
when will ads go live?
I hate when people keep bidding on both slots when that is a waste of money
tomorrow in 24 hrs
yeah 
hey
can i point me in like a ticket support direction or sum?
What do you win/achieve when bidding?
impressions aka views on your advertisement
some people who see it, will click on it
and invite your bot/ join your server / use your product
So basically Pay for members/customers in a way?
Yes
/;
It's not really a "pay for members"
You're paying for views / impressions
There's no guarantee of clicks or members
when will ads go live?
around 8pm utc this evening
Why the google pay button never work for auction 🙂
You'll have to contact fastspring about that
Why it is'nt sending messages anymore? #auctions-status ?
it will send a message later
it sends messages on monday and tuesday and its only just turned monday for this week 👍
Oke
It's basically paid advertisement.
yes it's ads
@oak whale
Can I Send Links For Servers?
no
Ok Feddy
Where can i buy a clothing pack
bruh i paid for 3k impressions now i have 991 😭
and now i can't remove bids???
never doing bids again
and i was bidded out good
you won't pay for impressions you don't get
theres 2 people keep outbidding me for no reason for a couple impressions 😭
when they are already getting 10k+
Whoever these guys are keep bidding at the last 10 seconds
wtf
What a battle today
me hi
stop!
good
Did not see I was outbid for smaller slots so this is all I had left
What bot is yours @jovial needle?
omg it ended
Townlander
Ah nice
@pastel stream those bids where crazy bro
What did I do?
Whoever owns Camelot you are annoying
xD
Can you give me some of the amount of infinite funds you seem to have
So I have to say I only had to bid against it 3-4 times otherwise I always got my save xD
i think thats the last time I'm ever gonna bid
okay
Is the fun tag known for getting a lot of clicks?
worked bad for me compared to other ones
but ig depends on bot
happy to share my analytics with you
but it has been decent
pls ty
My bot has 20 guilds I wanna see how many I can get in a week from a top.gg ad
what ctr did you get
For me it is about 100-200 a week the last two weeks I properly spent $$$ on ads
You can guess when I started spending on ads
How much impressions was that?
Probably about 20-30 a week
The highest i've ever done is 2000 impressions
$5
please open an #auctions-tickets so we can get it marked for you manually
just me confused at what ive paid for on the bids and what has been outbidded as half of them are greyed out
if they're greyed out, you were outbid and you wont pay for those slots
when you go to pay you'll get an invoice generated from fastspring with each slot and its amount of impressions and payment individual, and then as a whole
you can also see this on your pay screen before even going to fastspring
all good just i had it set up to just pay and had no idea what had been done but i can see in history
glad i could help
Do I have to pay for all my auctions, or can I choose specific ones?
You only pay if you win
Yeah, but if I win 3 auctions, I need to pay for all or can I choose?

its nnot
kies
getting a fairly good ctr lol
https://prnt.sc/7GX6qMpcIz78 what's the views and clicks, monthly?
Take that average and times it by 4 for an approximate monthly average
ty, and supposing i outbid someone, if the bids timing ends, do I win?
Everyone who is shown in white, aka not greyed out, will receive impressions
because sometimes i see higher bids but they're not selected https://prnt.sc/XjcbnQXbUea-
The middle only shows the top bir
Bid*
But if your name is in white you'll get impressions throughout the week
and those impressions it show on right, are like the expected impressions based on ur bid?
so basically multiple bids get shown
Views and click shown are weekly because the auctions are weekly.
that question was answered ty
Ok Anime slot people I am thinking today we go to 4 digits CPM what do you say
i really don't get it why people bid on tags that have nothing to do with their bot 🤔
Like a sticky message bot bidding on ticket tags (?? why?)
Yeah seems like people wouldn't click as much on those too?
they make us pay more bcz of them bidding on these tags
even tho they won't get a single invite out of it
If only there was a way that when we got verified, the tags had to get verified that the bot actually has it and then those are the only categories you could bid on.
THough that would make queue time a bit longer
And also less sweet sweet cash
Ok anime bidders we chill now?
I do not have that anime tiddy cash
I need to know who owns Camelot
@sharp escarp it is you
Whats your bot
What tag
i mean, just to see what would happen
sometimes i see people getting some real good bids and winning
yeah, but like, damn
never for front page lol
its tough haha
@silver basalt stop bidding 
but also not worth it
yeah, i gave up real quick
Anime tag bidding is always fun to watch
For anime?
Yep
@mortal pendant same for you 
Bruh stop biding people
Listen we all got good spots
NOOO CAMELOT AAA
lmao
Getting closer
Best of luck
I hope my wallet can forgive me
You'll see me amongst the top of those bidders in the future but not anytime soon
It is only that I get +-0 new guilds unless I get a bigger tag
This is the last two weeks guess when I got the tag and when I did not
Ok have we reached a stalemate again
Or is Camelot gonna to 10$ CPR
pls not on my slot Camelot
30 seconds for the love of god
Yup could be very nice
actually good
ok 27$ after tax ffs
Paid more for ticket tag many times
Your bot is a ticket bot?
ya
nice
Two bots in competition got way too high ad budget ngl
One of them spent like 500$ in two weeks
Bruh anime slot 1 is still going
2 of the bidders already won a slot 1 tf they doing
bruh
All or nothing!
Sometimes I wish I monetised my bot like MEE6 instead of making it actually enjoyable but oh well
never :3
DONT BID ON BOTH TAGS WASTE OF MONEYYY
Looking at the growth they got.. i dont think its a good choice for them to spend so much
is it? ADMINs?
Yes they are shown at the same time
are they?
Three times u mean
imagine both are you
2 ads 1 normal
waste of money
You cant
gg
Its too late
scamm
Wait for Camelot to spent 100000$
You can remove it if its like a few hours before end
i mean but shouldnt it be
But if you're first in both they are shown at the same time
that tts tag 1 for example, it shows people at different times
so if im not shown on tts tag 1, it shows on 1
maybe
and so on
wdym
why you shoudl even be able to bid 2 same tags at the same time
make no sense then
ye legit
Because if you do it right, you can time it so they don't show at the same time
Slot 2 is usually cheaper
You don't have to if you don't want to, but the option is there for people who do want to
okey ty
I frequently bid in both slots at different times
yoo
How do i add funds, its not working
You probably want to open a ticket.
Hellooo
Xd?
XD! 🙂
Wasup... ehh... simp...?
Sorry
how accurate are the counters? 
There is a long standing glitch. It allows people to click ads they don't see
fent

For my company it is only effective advertising I've found so far. You have to try it out to see how well it works for your project.
Quite
Anime bidders are we chill today

anyone else just not loading
yeah same for ended slots
lmao
bro is too rich
.... this is a bit unfair
making me pay $24 for 45 impressions by outbidding me 25 cents
I think they won't charge u 24$
just bid for the whole lot
You dont pay 100% then
they do.
i have to pay it all up front and then i get it back in credit
which means, i dont get it back
Oh, then it's sad
nah youre right
i thought it was different
this is fortunate
i retract me moaning then 
Oh jeez
lmao how is roleplay slot 1 getting bid up to like 5x the price of slot 2 🤣
why bidding in a way that you don't get any impressions is still increasing the time left
they charge by estimated impressions
yeah that's kinda funny
the max budget being higher means they'd charge you for "extra impressions" if you got them
Would love to troll with that
yeah if i get them thats ok
only 45 impressions they'd charge you a few cents now
i got wallu outbidding last sec, last time they managed to outbid just cause some other bot bid even tho they wouldnt get a single impression
They won't make you pay for more then 45 impression. There is a slight chance they might make you latter pay up to your budget for extra impressions
They is no last second outbid. The timer is extended if someone places a bid.
sometimes, it takes more than 2 mins for the email to arrive
so in short, then, its last minute bid
i wonder if theyll ever fix the dm on outbid
dm on outbid was always instant
Then set an alarm clock to remember to watch the bidding
an alaram clock for every 2 mins?
I was suggesting to set it for a few minutes before scheduled end to remember to watch bidding on the tag.
i would, if i had a way to dedicate anything up to 30 minutes to just staring at a website
without distraction from family life, discord, or anything else
My life 😔
you're in a tough spot if you are not able to dedicate time near auction end for bidding. You are up against people who give their undivided attention for 15 + minutes to this
Yes though then again I probably would have paid a lot more today had people who bid on my slot paid more attention
Does anyone else experience during crunch time near the end of auctions that it seams to take a long time find the tag they are looking for and then the ad they want to place on the tag. This being more a psychological factor of the pressure then any defect of design.
we have this new search pop up in beta right now, but i dont think the beta site is stable enough to use for auctions right now

Hi there bit urgent I apparently have to pay extra for a spot I only paid for a set amount of impressions for
And it is not letting me bid until I do this
According to this I only got impressions from one of the slots and it was the one I paid a set amount for a set impressions for. No extra cost should come from this
@low hinge would you mind looking into this as I would like to bid on the ongoing auction ending in 20 min without burning money for nothing
Oh hi @oak whale fellow bug hunter can community managers do something about this?
this is from last week's campaigns, not this weeks
Yeah
And I only won Slot 2 for a set amount of impressions
I don't see why I'd need to pay extra
My point is to bid right now I need to settle this seemingly wrong charge
So I have 14 minutes
So, the way bidding works is that every bid is a winning bid. if you receive this payment request it means you received more than the prepaid impressions, which was less than your total budget on a slot. Since we try to estimate and will not make you pay the full amount if e.g. only 20% of your impressions can be fulfilled.
You can check your previous payments and compare the paid for impressions with the number of impressions you're required to pay for now based on the past data
Yes I understand how the systems work. First and foremost though according to my analytics I received no slot 1 impressions so why do I need to pay anything for that?
Secondly, my bid for slot 2 was the highest. As far as I understand the impressions trickle down and people who may have "lost" that auction still receive impressions if any more than expected come in which they have to pay for. However, my bid was the highest. So any additional impressions would have trickled down to someone else
it says here in your historical stats you received 1.432 impressions
I would recommend you open a ticket instead
Well I have 9 minutes
Why does that not show up in my analytics
Check campaign history, we ask you to pay for last week, not this week
no, the payment will stay
jeez that's expensive
i would recommend to not go over your own budget in total 
I think I just got veryyyyy unlucky with bidding
ok fair thanks
ok new issue
paid but it is not disappearing
DBOTSBV240826-2283-86149
Given it is so time sensitive are you ok to just resolve that rq
@low hinge 
they're gone!
oh yeah he creates good marketing content
yeah love marketing mondays
and he covers events very well
One day you will accept my friend request due to all our mutual friends 😔
chat bot bidding war 
lol
TEN ON SLOT ONE WTF
Bruh how do you afford this
this is my key tag sooo
ok fair but those are front page prices
I pay 1$ for card game and I get like 15-20% click rate
Same for all cheaper smaller tags
emphasis on cheaper
Would not do it if it was this expensive
5% rate of 10k users is still more than 15% of 100
i also get a bunch of cheaper ones
sure but are they really interested in your product or just random clicking things
like on the lower relevance i feel they just check it out and then leave
Ok so say 1% are actually gonna keep it
Still quantatively more
This doesn't apply to home page tho never bid on that
almost 20 now lmao
now it's getting ridiculous lol
battle of the chatgpt wrappers
that slot cost me 3.71 last week 
30
I payed my auction. How long will it take untill the Bot will be advertised? Tomorrow 9am?
that's correct
60€ uff haha
tomorrow around this time yea
okayy
How does it work if multiple bots get impressions on a certain slot?
jesus what the hell
impression go to bot A until bot A got all the impressions it paid for then to bot B and so on
all the chatGPT wrappers competing
Bot A being the one with the highest CPM bid?
yes
So the first few days the one with the highest bid will get impressions and after that bot got the impressions paid for the other bot gets them?
yes
Ah nice, what happens if more impressions occur then estimated?
it continues to trickle down. the last spot that "won" will get impressions up until their limit then bots that were expected to not get any will recieve the rest according to the order
Ah I see, thanks alot <3
np also don't bid on two spots (for the same category) many make that mistakes
will just show the same ad twice
nice
is it normal, that you cant see ads? I got no ad blocker activated
I put a lot of money in my link protect bot and it would be annoying if it would not work
auctions show up along with the bots, these are external ads i think
Hmm ok. I still cant find my bot (ive got the second Slot) on the website
oh ok, it looks like its still not online
how does this work
why did it give me extra
i never bid/asked for them i think
pls ping on response :)
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Oh ok
No
Happy labor day
how is this even possible 😭
someone got a stuck mouse button
ad block. we can track clicks on the backend, but not views
curious if now that they dont show if that's gonna lower than number
cuz historically the ads were still showing
Genuinely I am also wondering how is Game tag getting that many clicks
it’s not even featured in all those tags
Gaming is, Game isn’t
Am I mentally slow or should that say 12.5k
No I am not mentally slow what dodgy maths is this
there might only be 10.42k impression left
keep upping the budget
ah I see
Yep, we can't estimate more impressions than we have :)
Hy
I didn't understand what is this-
also if we bid and lose the spot, do we lose our money?
that looks like a leaderboard for one of the slots. the first number is how much you pay per 1k impressions. the second number is the maximum amount of money you want to spend on the slot.
if you're shown in white, you win and will be charged the amount. if you are greyed out, you were outbid and will not be charged.
oh I see :o thank you very much
:o that's great. Thank you for the clarifications
Also what's the system in this for winning?
highest bidder wins? like highest in terms of cpm or budget?
Highest CPM is shown first, followed by the rest in order.
If all the impressions are bid for, then the lowest will get kicked off
I see :o ty
They assume that ads earlier in the week are more valuable than bids latter in the week. People who desire ads spread out have to do convoluted bidding.
Is servers dropdown or servers top more successful
They got rid of server listings several month ago.
Interestingly the stats page shows the server search dropdown page still getting impressions (users visiting)
i get the same error!
Same here
What can I do?!
Open a ticket #auctions-tickets
I accidentally deleted my top gg account, what do I do now?
what has priority in an auction? bid cpm or max budget
what happens to the the ad for the rest of the week if the max budget is reached early
it shows the next person on the leaderboard. if we run out of people, itll just be blank
ah got it, thanks
@peak zenith Take the tag music I leave it to you
thx man
(:
What exactly is the "Front Page - Top Voted Slot 1" page?
Is it the trending new bots section here?
I think it's on https://top.gg/list/top
The first 2 listed on this page^ @tepid sentinel
hi is there a way to tell when your bot is been advertised after winning bids I have paid in full
Depends what slots you picked. What did you win?
The top one will be on the trending page https://top.gg/list/new
Second one is just literally search dropdown, you click on the search button on and it shows your bot
oh right thankyou
will you ever add the ability for products (non bots) to change the text on the “learn more” button. typically “learn more” isn’t the highest converting phrase
would be a valued addition to auctions 😔
hustlers' haven is crazing adding 10$ per 1k views
I think they need to pay around 600$ in ads
<@&817055174613794826> is this sus?? 
not a priority atm but you can suggest it on the site
please don't ping support team for things like this
it literally told me to
check the pinned message
ah mb i thought they were just for personal tickets 
i love you
😘
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How accurate are the click amounts for slots?
M
can someone share me their experience on advertising their bot on the front page and how effective it is?
Depends on the bot.
Do you think the majority of people will click on it? If so then yes.
I had some massive growth with mine (about 300 servers).
Those servers are no longer active. I think it mostly depends on the bot though. It's good for short term growth but long term I'd say it really depends on the users and the bot.
An unexpected error occurred, and we are not currently able to accept payment.
anyone know why this is
also can we request a tag
That would be between you and their payment provider probably. I just made a payment a few hours ago fine.
@muted cosmos
yes paying with paypal is possible 
kk
When does the auction end for this week?
Monday
Always the same
Auctions and the top.gg site as a whole follow UTC time, which does not recognize daylight savings
Nearly every timezone in the world has a different moment to move daylight savings, you can't abide by it in that sense
sure but at least a warning mention reminder would be useful, I missed the auction coz of it and top.gg lost revenue
(and I bet I might not be the only one)
It's your responsibility, top.gg will not make an announcement every time a timezone in the world move to daylight saving 
lmfao
In all fairness they use the timestamps for discord in #auctions-status
and there is a bot here that you can run /auctions on to get the times
i swear top.gg breaks the law of good faith
like, the ad period that just began, they put a partner above everyone else at the end of the bid without notice or a fair chance to beat a bid
as far as i am aware, the ToS of the platform doesn't state they have the right to do so and it therefore it breaks good faith laws
wdym
I had a bid on the front page as everyone else did then on the last day, I checked it and there was a Top.gg sponsorship or whatever on the top of the list taking up 150k impressions at a ridiculously high price
afaik there is a seperate process for Sponsors of top.gg
so it's not technically breaking good faith laws
@eager turtle is the way they do that I think? idk though I don't know the process
It does not note it for the general auction members and it took over our slots which does break good faith laws
I guess make a ticket in #auctions-tickets if you're extremely confused and want more info
I'm not confused, I am simply telling you guys that you are breaking the law by manipulating bids
Partnerships don't have a chance to be "beaten" so whether we place it there at the front of the cycle or the end, it doesn't matter regardless
you wont be charged, you wont be shown, so theres nothing you lose
regardless if its not a charge, it is still breaking the law
you allowed members of the public to bid and then accepted a partnership without due notice to the auction members
Feel free to have your lawyer contact ours if you are concerned about us breaking the law.
Expect a notice :)
It doesn't break the law because you had a fair chance. You could have emailed partnerships@top.gg and requested that spot. It's not bid manipulation as long as they didn't secure/purchase the spot themselves or for themselves (which they didn't).
I think you would be foolish to pursue legal action over something so small that's probably entirely justified and fine, but I'll make sure to grab my bag of popcorn if you follow through. 
cant miss this movie
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Lets move on please, thanks.
People in USA remember the recent time change when doing bidding today.
is it possible to edit or cancel a bid?
yes open a ticket in #auctions-tickets
-removebid
Want to request your bid be removed?
You must not have requested a removal in the past 30 days.
You must not request it within 10 minutes of Auctions bidding ending.
Please open a ticket in #auctions-tickets by clicking on the button "Create Ticket".
Mention the category the bid was placed on.
Please wait patiently until a Support Associate arrives to assist you with your issue.
Note that we can deny bid removal requests at our discretion (for example: if the bid was clearly made to outbid someone else repeatedly.)
People are crazy with the role play slot1 tag today.


Am hi
Sup "Hi"
I forgot to pay largely because of things going on in my personal life
Hello there!
I am farley new to top.gg and am thinking about auctions and bidding for impressions. There is pleanty of slots free.
Has anyone got any experience with ad campaigns on top.gg and would like to share their story with me? - Feel free to dm me if you feel more comfortable dm'ing ! I'd really appreciate it! 🫶
"As a GPT language model, I can't assist with.." type shi
What? Do you mean my text? It aint gpt text xd Not at all.
i have a theory
^ in denial
No, it's just not, and anyway it doesn't matter
The just messing around. 🤷♀️
Is the Click rate per 1k impressions or in total?
nvm... can't be per 1k impressions lool so its a total number
Something is not adding up here ? 😵💫
if users are using adblock their views dont get counted but clicks still do
mhhm this gives me more concerns... Like why do views count and clicks not... especially at this high of a rate it rather looks like you be counting all website visits as clicks and not the actual clicks.
No other tag got close to 100% of clicks... And I strictly refuse to doubt that the majority of users has had ad blocks on in that timeframe of exposure... Regarding other tags ... they are at most at ~ 10% click rate... so the amount of people having ad blockers on would be way higher for that one tag then any other tag... Or you simply be using different logic to display and count your ads... which lets me also worry about what might be wrong 😖
Sadly its not precisely explained (Showed with examples, maybe code and all!) how you calculate these values. Thats one big concern for me.
I assume it might very likely be that: Ad campains cummulatively calculate, so when you got multiple tags, they just count together and being displayed to every tag...
Or It might be that you straight count all the page clicks from all sources and add them up there? 😵💫
Idk seems weird
Still lots of speculations as we dont know enough about those important values... Someone would need to explain me why adblockers raise the clickrate from 10% to over 100% and that only at this one tag... I refuse to assume that this tag is only shown to ad users.
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Not demanding it. Also its not much they would share... 👀 Not like something thats worth keeping a secret at all 😑
but hey... Ill make my way and my experience... so i dont care 🤷♀️
Views are counted even if the user uses an adblock, unless Veld fixed it
bro 😢
Uncounted views are to your advantage because they are free.
@raven steppe
it's crazy how many bidders aren't even on this server to watch #bids - great for us though, we get an edge over those folks.
Bids are hidden
They're not. Only the history is hidden, not the live results if you watch during bid hours. 😉
anyone here?



Just curiouse... is there any neat way to get the auction data via an api? I highly dislike the auction's setup. its aweful.
Nope
Someone maybe made a webcrawler?
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idc who supports it... just need the job being done efficiently lol
Also you developing top gg stuff?
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So you are a dev?
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Loool It just launched and is already satisfied? I mean wtf? And this bad of a CTR for 1$?
Someone else must have found out about this before! Feels like a rip off even if its just 1$ 🤔
Will I at least stay until infinity? Because no one else voted there? or am I just gone and there is no further advertisement?
Might be good to just include open end votings if not, as this encourages also voting for such high frequency stuff for some $ at least, because its getting some CTR's for cheaper values... ?
Also how tf are those values calculated? I mean I got other values then displayed and it just refuses to update them?
Why not take my week's values then?
Will it be average over x weeks? Then it is most likely also taking into account weeks where no one voted... thus making it not representable...
looks like a scam to me... Why not calculate proper values? 🥴
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Also I got to pay 1$ now again... Do i need to pay it asap? or can i just pay it with next weeks result? like when the other extra payments appear?
Nice edit bro ^^
Well I have learned some things and listening to customers is important in some sense
Thats at least what I am convinced
Idk if you a paying customer or not, but to tell me that I should go to a different provider is not a nice thing to say... I believe you distrust topgg after seeing such nonesense myself... but you do not need to hide it with an edit here... Just write a dm or leave it like a man 
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Doesn't sound like the real story
im sorry what seems to be the issue you're having?
you paid 1 dollar for 1k views and you got your 1k views?
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The issue has a big scope to fully understand what worries me here.
It starts at: Tag Impressions listings do not represent any value that the user might expect, nor do the CTR rates match
When you got a Listing with 0 impressions and CTR... and you get some... Then the next time it gets listed it wont represent the actual values properly.
Thus any expected values anyone calculated are just so much off, that they are just not worth looking at.
If it were to be displayed somewhere what others made for values, then that would be enough to base off on your own.
The questioning continues when I paid for a tag with no impressions and no CTR, but I got 1k impressions in like a split second. That doesnt seem logical, does it? especially copared to the values proposed for tag 2? like wtf?
Those values also do NOT update correctly. so i am wondering whats going on in the background...?
In The end I ask myself if impressions are totally dependant on the amount someone spends... and if thats hit, the tag will be taken down and not further calculated... leading to no proper values to be displayed and thus misleading potential customers?
very very weird... mhhm
So they sold it back to him? Where have u gotten this info from?
Any values on for how much topgg got sold?
Yes, if an ad is not currently being displayed on the slot, it doesn't count the impressions for estimations on the slot in the future. This is a known bug we've had for a long time. It usually isn't a concern because the largest tags get completely bought out. It is a problem for smaller tags or incorrectly valued smaller tags such as the voting confirmation tag. The voting confirmation tag shows after a person successfully votes, which is our highest viewed page (obviously). however it wasn't working for a period of time, so it wasn't being shown, so the average estimated value of impressions is incorrect
Veld took over ownership recently, but was also one of the original developers
Much attention hasn't been given to auctions bugs recently because Veld has been working on stabilizing the main site and making it run more efficiently. Once the work on the main site is done, Auctions will get more attention and love.
Auctions is in beta so it is expected to have some bugs
And how are the impressions estimated? Over what course of time is data collected? Like lifetime?
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Lets be nice, please
But why do you also count weeks with 0 impressions and 0 clicks in ??
doesnt make sense to me
Because thats how the system currently works. If a tag truly gets 0 impressions a week you would want to know that wouldnt you?



