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yep
i thought it'd have like an api and the actual site with react or something similar
the main site is next.js and chakra
chakra ui is really nice tbh
agreed
im horrible at coding with react though lmao
im much better at doing backend
thats a pretty good stack for the main site
seems much easier than uhhh express + ejs lmao
The main site is pretty nice to work on. It's the first time I've used next and it's pretty awesome.
yeah i use next and tailwind
or chakra if im lazy
i bought tailwind ui and its an amazing investment 
im planning to use it on my bot's website if all goes well, even bought the domain (tildebot.com)
do you work more at medal than top.gg?
ive used medal in the past its pretty good for game replays etc
Yeah I'm a full-time Medal employee. I only hop in here to help out for Auctions support.
thats nice, also do you know of any way to change your email in top.gg auctions? im not looking to change it now but in the future ill want to change it as im using a new email
-ticket
@warm thunder
Need more advanced support?
Open a support ticket
Open a ticket there. I'm not sure
okay so you guys will have to change it for me? alright
its fine i dont need to change it right now
It should just be your Discord account's email
yes it is, it doesnt detect if the email is changed though right?
because it could be easier to just change my discord email
I'm not sure. It should just link your Discord ID to your new email.
ok, I'll try that, thanks
No problem! 
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@waxen pine (you asked for a coupon before)
Sadly too late now :(
keep in mind for next time you advertise then I think it'll still work
Im not gonna be able to advertise very often as I dont get any income from the server yet.
But maybe in the future
That code was only available for the payment window this week
ah ok lol
2 weeks in a row no ads due to being outbid when not paying attention near end of bidding time
extremely aggressive people against non-aggressive bidders
We should convert it to a silent auction fr
I mean, it's an auction. People gonna bid 
guys the ads for my bot just started and many servers were added but that wasnt supposed to happen - i forgot to deactivate public bot, I started ads to get people in the support server lmao, the bot isnt done
oh i just wanted support server members
i thought maybe like i'd get 2-3 servers added but it was quite a bit more and im going to be using a caching system for the bot so that will complicate it a little bit but generally should be fine
but i literally thought i turned public bot off
but like
why would you promote a bot
more than likely thats what people are gonna pay attention to
lol
at least i got hella CTR
(antispam)
You can just promote the support server in that case.
The auction website was acting weird for a few minutes but seams to be fixed
@brittle carbon allowing users to place bids lower than the lowest will help accumulate all the extra impressions
they wont earn enough money though 🤑
there are 100k impressions available but only like 20k are filled
by allowing placing lower will help topgg earn more too...
80k impressions worth
you know most people bid on last day though
probably many more impressions going to be taken
yeah
5$ for 1k impressions is insane
7k impressions used to fetch me 1k servers
so i'd have to pay 35$ for 1k servers
its unideal... hence the suggestion
which time ends bidding
Normal bidding ends Monday 19:00 (7:00pm) UTC. To prevent snipping (bidding at the last second to get a slot) bidding can be extended for up to 2 hours.
To determine when that is in your time zone
- use your preferred search engine to look for current UTC time.
- use what ever method you typically use to check current local time. From this calculate the offset.
- apply the offset to the auction end time.
Be careful of wrong way offset (adding vs subtracting hour)
If all that is too complicated, an alternative is to go to the bidding page and check the time remaining counter
You can just Google "7pm UTC in (your country / city)" and Google will convert it for you instead of looking up UTC and trying to convert it yourself.
for me bidding ends at 10 pm which is pretty good
this guy winning the bid, only is buying 1000 impressions.. what happens after those 1000 are gained? it switches to next person who's winning bid?
i swear i clicked support
Correct
Everyone with an impression count on the leaderboard has won impressions
They're served from top to bottom
how're they ordered?
just by who puts it in first?
-cpm
What is CPM bidding?
Top.gg Support Article
oh ok, i was thinking it was with their max budget, but it's just purely cpm. interesting. ty
It's ordered in order of CPM bid and then oldest to newest in the case where CPM bids are the same across multiple products.
what's with people desperately trying to own both slots of the same tag and going upwards to CPM of 10+ to achieve it
🤑
I guess, but probably unlike them I have a strict budget 😄
btw what bot do you have
it's mentioned in my about me, idk if I can mention it here
im bidding on slots even though my bot isn't even like released
like you cant add it to your server
as of now i just want to get like members in the support server
so i can get like a small amount of ppl
I see, have you tried bidding with the server itself as well?
no just the bot
although yeah support servers are unlikely to get decent traffic by themselves
how is it going btw?
fine we got like 50 members last week
and around 400 clicks in auctions
got the same slots this time
that's pretty good
either way i actually got some stuff done
maybe my bot is ready to release this week?
you should check it out its in my bio
even have a website for it
problem is that the bot is really really advanced to develop so it's been taking a while for me
oh im also on top.gg
i mean the bot
it works its just that I need to complete the caching system
for the users
its wayy to advanced 💀
well according to your member traffic I think you're on the right track
thanks man btw i got like ~150 invite uses, but most left as they were trying to find the invite
interesting how it works
my server's disadvantage is that its primary language is not English, so most people probably get scared and run away xd
lol its like that here
btw
which slots do you advertise on
Fun tag got hot this week 🥵 🌶️
Good thing I got it for cheap last week and had leftover budget 
mostly Currency 1/2, then between minigames, card game, application (meh CTR tho), funny, free, anything that relates at least a little bit and is not full of high CPMs
true
do staff members get auctions discounts lol
damn nice so you bid on all these each week?
No
Auctions were brutal!
true lol just had to pay more and more but eh its fine
oh fun tag slot 2 is still going
nah, too little money to do that 😄 however I always go for Currency at the very least
how much does currency cost usually?
Had a slot ever gone on for the full 2 hour extension?
isnt it 30 min
Its always anxiety inducing... its what i live for
depends, its avg cost increased with top.gg partnerships (I guess), but the final CPM moves anywhere between ~2 and 15, mostly around 5
thats not too bad
sometimes it cost me 60 cents, sometimes 4 dollars
haha exactly
oh i thought it was 30 mintues lmao
last week i paid 6$ for ads
this week i paid 20 for same slots
it changes a lot lol
Currency began receiving less impressions a few weeks ago, idk what'đ behind that
i mean you should get a refund for impressions you didnt get so not bad
CTR on these slots is so high
So did I lmao
i think i saw it was 30 minutes at some point in #auctions-status
yeah that's impressive
conversion rate is also really high
its base impressions decreased, so no refunds
ahh thats what you meant ok
I probably need to redo my ad or sth because my CTR is good, but conversion rate sucks a bit
no fancy images on my site yet xd
make a website 🤑 conversion rate is higher imo (basically 100%)
did you see my bot's site tho
yeah, good stuff
needed to add that huge warning too
do you advertise the bot as a custom product?
wdym?
the 1st one is custom, as it redirects to a website
ahhh
no its just the bot page
but once you click on invite it takes you to the website (is what im planning)
ah I see
anywya i really have to release this bot lmao
well a website would be nice but I'd have to learn to do that 
i be paying for ads but not using them
yeah its not easy ngl
but i used wordpress
have lots of experience withi t
also look at this conversion rate, damn that's high (~80%)
I heard of it, I might check it out since building a site from scratch is not usual these days
Don't trust the analytics tab on your bot's page. The stats are usually very off.
lol yes its super hard to do it from scratch
oh why
They're buggy
well mine say this, it's stats from last week right only right? I have 71 votes atm
Best way to count conversions is in terms of actual invites to servers using the redirect_uri on your bot's oauth link or in terms of member joins for a server
yeah i think its last week
on my site I actually have conversion tracking set up with Matomo
so I track when the user converts and goes to add the bot
I reckon how it could say 47 invites if my servers literally have not moved for the past few days xd
but the redirect_uri, doesn't it add a ?code to the urL?
yep
weird lol
could be a good idea to actually implement that
to see how many % of people who click add to server
actually add it at the end
matomo is really good for this have you heard of it
Yeah I do it just so I can track where my server joins are coming from with a ?ref=topgg on Top.gg's bot invite link for example
i also have a "campaign" for top-gg so i can track if they're coming from top gg
And it counts actual conversions (bot added to a server) instead of just people clicking "invite" and not following through
so you do like
the user clicks on the direct invite link on top.gg
and then they get returned to your website with the ref=top.gg?
I track those in Google Analytics then
thats pretty smart
personally I think google analytics is better for sites with lots and lots of users
with Matomo you have visitor profiles
so each visitor has their own profile and you can see what they do
it's prtty cool to see
That's like an Amplitude thing?
i think they also have that but im using matomo
its like google analytics but open source
and much better imo
and self hosted
but they also have cloud ofc
it's really simple and easy to use lmao
thats why most sites use it
10 years is an old habit to break too 
damn so you've been with google analytics from the start
i think they've existed since 2005
so you've used it for like a good half of the entire time its existed
I'm probably going to use Posthog for in-app stats when I do my rewrite.
also, your bot, what does it do?
That feels gdpr violating
Is there a way to bid after the auction has ended? Iirc there was an announcement recently related to that
Games and boosts social interaction
so just a fun bot? thats pretty cool
-secondround
well
technically it would be
but i anonymize user Ips

Why are you even storing ips in the first place
so it is actually completely legal
ask the creator of matomo i didnt make it lmao
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Every website you visit has your IP
also, its for geolocation
yeah exactly
Yes, but having it for analytics is kinda useless
it only means something to malicious websites
not at all
its used for geolocation
Yes, store the geolocation, not the ip
It's useful for analytics
it also helps identify the specific user
either way, what is so bad about storing ips?
In case of data leak
It doesn't necessarily. You can have more than one user on the same machine.
what can a website do with your ip? take your internet dwn for a couple minteus? thats like the extent
technically but mostly that only happens if your app is really popular or typically used in the same household
like for google thats an issue
but for my discord bot
most people in the same household wont be searching for the same bot
It could be if you wanted to prevent botting something etc
But would only work on your website anyway
Yeah for security I get
Identifying malicious users etc
for discord its an actual issue because bans are IP based so if someone on your ip does something in a serevr and gets banned then you'll also be if you "ever" use the same ip
btw what is so bad about storing ips, why is it so bad?
The IP bans on Discord are only temporary
afaik they are permanent
I'm not saying it's necessarily bad, but why have it
true its a little but much but if you can collect it why not? it doesnt harm your users honestly
Most household ips are dynamic so permanent ip bans would sometimes lead to a random person with the same isp
yeah thats why i dont think discord bans by ip are very smart lmao
It's more to prevent raids that happen on the same network
If you're worried about people storing your IP, just use a VPN. It's still a waste of money if that's the only reason imo, unless you're actually at risk professionally etc, but anyway.
yeah
that is a prtty smart use case
but it does harm regular users
Well, if they're temporary like up to a week at most, which is what I think it is, then the chances of another person joining the same server is low
Also I don't think it affects already joined users (although i could be wrong on this)
i think thats true
problem is that i think theyre literally permanent
Well who knows 
Yeah I believe so
yeah discord will most likely keep that private as its their security information
I mean it's not that hard to figure out
i literally have to get this bot running by tomorrow if I actually want to get some servers - but this cache system is always having issues
it could change (the duration)
Yeah
basically the cache system works completely but im making a redundancy system
if discord API fails
Why? In what situation would that happen?
well if the discord api goes down
the cache would be invalid
Are you using slash commands?
Then if the API was down people wouldn't be able to interact with your bot in the first place
it caches every user the bot has seen and their respective joined servers that include tildebot
this bot is a alternative "report system" for discord
where people can report disruptive members
My bot's pretty similar lol
and they go through our moderation system and then either get blocked from the tildebot "network"
what bot do you have?
Although it doesnt have global bans
About me 2nd link
global bans are a real pain to code
so it reports to the server admins? smart
I might implement an opt-in global "alert" feature but that's honestly just an idea
i see your bot is open source? thats really cool
I'm gonna join my 90,000th server this week 
Imo I don't like global bans because the only real rule servers share is don't break discord tos, and just report them to discord at that point
your bot?
yep
Gonna hit 100k in October
thats a huge bot lol
Huge bots are like mee6 dyno dank memer those ones
Huge is like 1 mill+
whats your bot coded in? also i gotta know, how many resources does it use, like gb ram and stuff?
PHP
jk
lmao
JS but I'm rewriting to TS. The website is PHP though.
discord.js right?
oh what's the difference?
makes sense
djs cache is awful
how many resources does your bot use
i have to know lol
like GB ram and cpu usage
About 17GB RAM
How does it work exactly? I find discord.js' cache customisation (sweepers + limiting) enough
It has some pretty cool mods. You should check out the github for it and you'll see.
thats much less than I thought
I've done a lot of optimisation. There's more I can do but I need a rewrite.
@jolly blaze ive actually seen your bot before in servers, how many servers does it have?
im coding my bot as efficiently as possible
36
It has 15k total members in those servers
almost too efficiently as you can see with the redundancy thing for the cache
ive actually seen it before i think
CPU isn't the issue really in my experience. Mostly RAM.
thankfully i have a very nice dedicated server from hetzner
so there shouldnt be a problem there i think
That's nice. I want to switch to one too.
the prices are really good
Yeah
I pay €25/mo for a shared VPS with 32GB RAM
So I don't need to upgrade to a dedi yet
those prices are still really good
But I'd like to
did you know oracle offers a 24 gig ram server for free?
like "absolutely" fre
im not sure if its still free but i used to have one
I don't have a lot of servers so caching isn't a big deal for me, I find this just enough https://github.com/GodderE2D/Reindeer/blob/main/src/constants/makeCache.ts
so you set all those to 0 as you dont use them?
I would not use oracle cloud if I was paying
Yep
do you guys think my bot will have problems once it gets released and it reaches the 100 server limit
like wit verification
as it'd grow really fast
apparently theres some limit thing in verification that make you wait 2 weeks if it grows too fast
I'd suggest not advertising it on Top.gg until you're verified or it will make your verification process longer and harder
I'd say if it grew linearly within the span of 1.5 or more months you'll be fine
well oops then lmao
Yeah unnatural growth
it has 0 servers now
Well you'll see
so it'd grow within 5 days probably (to 100 servers)
as from my statistics
of like 500 clicks
Are you the one with the unfinished bot and your bot page is basically an ad for your support server
👍
exactly sir
at least i got 50 members lmao
Hm idk about your case
i think it will probably have some issues
and im pretty interested to see how my bot will handle the new servers
it caches a lot of things
i seriously dont understand why im even advertising when my bot isnt ready 💀
It's always best to roll big changes out slowly anyway. When I release major new feautres or do rewrites I don't just test it on my own and then YOLO it out to 90k servers 
jesus christ lmao
i test everything before I do anything
I have a beta bot that I launch to users before pushing to the prod version
that makes better sense
So beta testers can test it
i do the same on a bot in 3 servers 
Depends how many members it works for tho
If it's 3 large servers and it's a major part of their security then it makes sense
(i knew there was gonna be a little bit of a small troll)
just a small troll
Does front page slot next to top page slot?
I bid both and realize that is 100 USD wasted if they are next to each other
I get outbid at 12:50 am , bruh I can't even bid cuz it's late night here when bid ends 
so im first bidding for my ad to be shown, then im bidding on the cpm as well?
-cpm
@fleet patrol
What is CPM bidding?
Top.gg Support Article
Read that support article
ya that explains the cpm, but so i could either choose tho bid for both category and cpm, or just category?
Each tag/slot is its own CPM bidding
You can bid on as many slots as you want but you'll be expected to pay for all the ones you win
so paying for cpm is implied always
The entire auctions system is a CPM bidding system yes. I'm not sure what you mean?
thought you could just pay per category, regardless of clicks
You do. We don't charge for clicks, we charge for impressions. It's a CPM bidding system.
right so I mean I have for example the 15$ free credits, I can just dump 10 (counting for extra vat I read), then then cpm count is automatic and my ads are shown until the impression count reaches 10$
Read this: #auctions-support message
Also there's no VAT when paying with credits.
$6 for 480 impressions…
Any way I can opt out of the extra impressions? Cause that’s a scam
yes, by only setting the budget to what you're willing to pay
extra impressions are based on your budget you've set
-retroactive
Why was I charged for "extra" impressions?
When you receive more impressions than initially estimated, this is when "retroactive charging" occurs. This means that despite you not paying for the impressions at the beginning of the week when the auction ended, your ad will show up and you will be required to pay at the end of the week. However, you will never be charged more than your maximum bid budget.
💡 For more information, check out this support article on Retroactive Charges.
I tried to implement this in my analytics
however it just didnt redirect
It just showed the added successfully page
You need to make sure you've added the url on your Discord developer portal
Under redirects
in the redirect uris?
Yeah
yeah i have it added
i have this link
does it look right
when I try to add with it, it just doesnt redirect back
No. Look at mine. You need the code thingy thing. I don't remember what it is off the top of my head
If you don't plan on using the token no
ok perfect this is what i needed thank you
Np
it'd just make the conversion rate lower too lol
Yeah not everyone wants that when inviting a bot
oh damn you've done a whole blog page on that
Nice
I have been wanting to write a blog post for it simply because I recommend this to users all the time. I'll save your link. Super useful
what do you use for the blog?
Nextjs
you scripted everything yourself?
Damn the site looks good bro
yep luckily
it was much more expensive this week though
but i actually released my bot so people can add it lol
previously it was just linking to my support server
Nice
Yeah this week was kinda expensive for me compared to previous weeks but I managed to get est. 3.9k impressions for $25
you're advertising reindeer right?
yeah ive thought about putting my bot on it but its way too competitive lol
Where'd you put it instead?
Whats the impressions for those?
how many servers do you usually get per week with your ads?
Like total for the tag
This is my second week, first week I only got 760 impressions and gained about 10-15 servers
i think ~600 for antiraid, ~300 for antispam, and ~450 security
what was the CTR that week?
That was one of the front page tags... bidded $16@$16 bc I really overestimated my cpm lol
damnnn lol the CTR is really low there
also, have you managed to get profitable with any of your bots?
Not yet
Mine has been profitable for a while. Mainly because I keep running costs to an absolute minimum. I give 50% of the revenue to charity too.
I currently just have vote awards until I get a decent server count
That's a great strategy
That's what I did
And new ideas xd
you have 90000 servers its literally crazy lmao, shouldnt be too hard to be profitable at that point
but do you have like premium subscription for the bot
and you're donating 50% to charity too thats really nice
your bot looks really solid
Thanks 
when did you actually start this bot?
like how long did it take to reach this huge number lol
I only really started advertising on Top.gg around April 2022
Got lucky that I created it a few weeks before the whole world locked down because of covid
Like 3 weeks later we were all locked indoors
That was a big factor for early growth ngl
What are the spikes 🤔

My coding skills
I have a microservice that handles posting. I save each shard's data to a db, and the spikes are shards messing up or dying
I'm still kinda stuck on adding new ideas for my bot
I have a few but they're not really big exciting features
Gotta do something unique
Or do something better than any other bot that offers the same thing
@brittle carbon @brittle carbon
Mac Mac
mAc mAc
MaC MaC
anyone have any tips on how to roll out bot updates without taking the bot down
Look up "hot reloading"
is that what most bots do? looks promising
It's the best way of doing it I know of yeah
and if I have larger changes I'll need to fully restart the bot right? like changes to the index.js for example
Yes
Depends how you connect to the gateway I think. I wouldn't know
I don't do it but I'll be doing it in my rewrite.
You can ask in #development. The people there are very helpful.
alright thanks yall
Who's ready to get sweaty out in the auctions this Monday?
does anyone know any possibles causes for my bot's CTR getting lower this week than the previous one
how would i be able to bid $15 of credit
-credits
Auction Credits
What are credits?
- If enough people vote for your bot or server per month, you have the ability to earn vote credits that you can then use for auctions.
- Don’t know what auctions is? See here to learn more and here to participate.
- These auction credits can be used to pay for any winning bids you may make.
- You CANNOT “withdraw” them for real money.
How does the system work?
- Each month, bot monthly votes reset (midnight UTC).
- If you get 100 votes on your bot in the month, you can redeem $15 worth of voting credits (note: you can’t redeem till you actually get 101 votes).
- Any vote after 100 will be worth $1 per 1000 votes (or $.001 per 1 vote)
How do I redeem them?
- At the end of the month, you will be eligible to redeem your credits (you redeem them on your bot or server's Votes page). You will have 30 days to redeem them before they expire.
- After you redeem them, you have 31 days to use them before they expire.
How do I use vote credits to pay for Auctions?
- When you pay for your winning bid, you can "Pay with Credits".
- If your payment cost is more than the amount of credits you have, make sure to apply the credits first and then pay the rest with the supported payment providers.
You can read more about using your vote credits in our vote credit support article.
You can read more about Auctions in our Auctions support articles.
yup read the message
your bid is less than what the tag has as the minimum bid for example
You can't bid on that slot because it's reserved for partnerships, try bidding on slot 2 of that category
top.gg should just mark the slot as completed and not allow bidding for partnered reserved slots
it seems to confuse many people
like for example when bidding is completed for a slot it is grayed out
true
that's a beaut right there
auctions are done 🤑
basically a free slot lmao

accidentally bid $30 budget and couldnt put it less so i just suffered the loss lol
🤑
what slot
moderation 2
Got 3500 impressions for $16, not that bad 
that slot was competitive ash today
which tag/slot?
so which price does it go by?cdm or max budget?
which slots
darn lost both slots on the tag I most want while engaged with other tags
you gotta up your game bro 🤑
brah*
Had 4, the most expensive one was 'New Page' for ~$12
Emoji Stealer, Autoroles, New Page and Temporary Voice
what bot do you have btw?
Basically free impressions down there and they are not even bad
spending $15 basically right?
Yes
yeah
Set up 5 monitors and go into overdrive 
at max 15$
alright

jesus i just looked at how many badges you have
1k impressions for $15 seems bad
which slot?
top page slot 2
imo 1k impressions isnt worth it at all, especially if its $10+
Look at the Twitch tag then 
can't go lower....
Hilarious amount of money for so little impressions
fml
The 1000 impressions will be gone quickly
wont let me
mhm
still have my previous campaign going
slot?
moderation 2
what about now?
moderation 2 is pretty good except lower CTRs
where is the difference
im saying
can i go lower
now
2 min were added back
you cant change your bid
the partner for slot 1 has a crazy ctr of 20%
fr its really high which bot is it even lmao
uhh i think it was the maki
seems like rly good slot which one is it
nice
It was/is @lean whale of course 😏
Music tag slot 1
it was aug 01. previous one I did
Tag pages sometimes get much higher CTRs simply because people Google "moderation discord bots" and click the first link (Top.gg) and see the top bot on the moderation tag page and don't look any further.
is this good? @warm thunder
3500 imp for $7
it depends a lot on CTR, however 3.5k impressions is generally good for 7$ yes
So when do the won auctions go live usually?
-golive
When do ads go live?
After bidding closes, there's a 24h payment window until 7pm UTC on Tuesday. During this time, all winning bidders must pay in full for their ads.
At 7pm UTC on Tuesday, all ads that have been successfully fully paid are scheduled for display during the coming cycle. One hour later, at 8pm UTC, these ads start to show.
Ads are displayed in order of highest CPM winning bids until all impressions are served. If you're near the top of the leaderboard you can expect your ad to go live around the start of the cycle. If you're closer to the bottom, it'll more likely be around the weekend or as late as the following Tuesday when the cycle ends.
💡 Partial payments using credits does not ensure partial impressions! Ads only go live for slots where payment requests have been paid in full!
nice ty for quick info
No problem! 
🤑
so vote funds basically can't be added till the end of that month?
i think only admins can run that command brah
-credits
@dim shard
Auction Credits
What are credits?
- If enough people vote for your bot or server per month, you have the ability to earn vote credits that you can then use for auctions.
- Don’t know what auctions is? See here to learn more and here to participate.
- These auction credits can be used to pay for any winning bids you may make.
- You CANNOT “withdraw” them for real money.
How does the system work?
- Each month, bot monthly votes reset (midnight UTC).
- If you get 100 votes on your bot in the month, you can redeem $15 worth of voting credits (note: you can’t redeem till you actually get 101 votes).
- Any vote after 100 will be worth $1 per 1000 votes (or $.001 per 1 vote)
How do I redeem them?
- At the end of the month, you will be eligible to redeem your credits (you redeem them on your bot or server's Votes page). You will have 30 days to redeem them before they expire.
- After you redeem them, you have 31 days to use them before they expire.
How do I use vote credits to pay for Auctions?
- When you pay for your winning bid, you can "Pay with Credits".
- If your payment cost is more than the amount of credits you have, make sure to apply the credits first and then pay the rest with the supported payment providers.
You can read more about using your vote credits in our vote credit support article.
You can read more about Auctions in our Auctions support articles.
are these people even gonna pay for these ads
100 $ for 1000 impressions with terribly low CTR
like max 5 clicks for that
this is on front page trending new
most likely they dont understand the auctions system
someone got 22K impressions on the same slot for 55$
lol
I paid for 9125 impressions.
who wants to buy my bot
20% off
72$
called gamma 1 bot he looks like this
he basically uhm
speedruns

No one gives a crap about your bot. I mean your banned afterall
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yea they do, if u pay with paypal u send the money to fastspring not to topgg's paypal
they act like a proxy
they take the liability
so if a chargeback happens, fastspring loses the money right
and top.gg is fine
eh depends on how badly they get chargebacks
stripe has it too 👍
this doesn't solve the issue
this is just a tool to let u detect potential fraudlent purchases
all money goes through stripe too, they are your payment processor they also act like a proxy
u are still liable, u are the processor
no, this is chargeback full protection
its included with Radar
you can 1 sec lemme show u
i mean u can probs integrate it to their portal but
its still ur paypal account right
You can only receive payouts using stripe tho (so bank account for most countries)
im pretty sure topgg has a bank account
thats fine tho lmfao
yeah lol
anyway this is just my advice for top.gg
i used to send them wires directly
as fastspring has some really negative things
back when fastspring would mess up
apparently it can even mess up if you dont click the "continue" button once you've paid
so weird lol
like on the popup
btw Stripe even supports direct bank transfer through stripe
they create a virtual IBAN for each transfer its rly cool
even more reason to switch to them lol
i mean it was probably really simple to set up and all but there seems to be many problems
i think they used to have a bot
donatebot
yeah didnt you literally pay with that lmfao
i see it in the invoices i think
you can see when you pay, it loads thru "donatebot.onfastspring.com"
you can visit it
its super old looking
lmao
the comparison fastspring has on their site against stripe is fully complete bs
theres literally no extra cost for B2B costs, free subscription management,
additional payment methods? what does that even mean
stripe has like 40
anyway they are literally lying
their selling point is the taxes compliance
but stripe literally has that
Hello
You can turn on notifications via the settings page, but they are not 100 percent reliable currently
auctions is over 🤑
A little red dot will appear when the listed auction changes.
very very cheap this week
We had some ballers in auction this week
which tag?
Antiraid slot 1
Antispam slot 1
Security slot 1
and
Final step of add server flow
but the final step of add server flow is extra 3 $ but i paid with wallet
so it was fully like 8.5$
nice, moderation tag 2 expensive as always
the bigger the tag, the more expensive they usually are
yeah
fr
im lucky ahh its so cheap
im not earning anything from my bot it doesnt even have a purpose yet its just some side project lmao
$%#$ I was distracted by someone being in the hospital and forgot to hop on for auction end time
what were u advertising
custom bots. lost most of the slots bidding in. one and left for 1504 impressions
damn which slots
@warm thunder may i ask what was your ctr last week?
empty search results is the most wanted slot. had a few other I was bidding on
let me check for ya
ctr is really low there though right?
I was lucky to get it 😮
its 20% lol
1.9% 💀
instant discord fact checking
so its like 35% for antispam
20% antiraid
14% security
and 2% add server flow
Tags always have higher CTR because when people Google "discord moderation bots" our moderation tag is one of the top results and so they just click the first thing they see on the list which explains the high CTR on slot 1 on tags
🤑🤑🤑 (how did y'all even get such good SEO lmao)
right i was blind
What’s this someone dm me about it
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when do my listings go live
the payment window ends in 1 minute 🙂 and then the first ads will start to go live after about an hour or so due to caching
so sometime between now and an hour the first ads will start to go live
?
Ah
-notshowing
My active ad is showing 0 impressions
Ads are shown in order of highest to lowest winning bids. Your ad will be shown when the people before you have had all their impressions served.
The current auctions cycle doesn't end until Tuesday at 7pm UTC so there's still time for your ad to show!
If for any reason there aren't enough impressions to go around and you aren't served any impressions, you will be automatically refunded at the end of the current auctions cycle.
i see
does it normally take a bit for auctions to reopen?
yep, they reopen at 8pm UTC (in 12 minutes)
gotcha
Pass server raid
Are you saying someone attempting to raid this server? If so there is no evidence which would be a pass for defenses
I refuse to admit this bid was for the memes
It's currently Sunday
I'm "supposed" to get 3k impressions on moderation tag 2
And there's today and tomorrow to do that
If you don't receive them, you get the remaining impressions refunded
Hey
-notshowing
@jolly blaze
My active ad is showing 0 impressions
Ads are shown in order of highest to lowest winning bids. Your ad will be shown when the people before you have had all their impressions served.
The current auctions cycle doesn't end until Tuesday at 7pm UTC so there's still time for your ad to show!
If for any reason there aren't enough impressions to go around and you aren't served any impressions, you will be automatically refunded at the end of the current auctions cycle.
No ads
yo how do I get a custom top.gg url for my bot for example mee6 has top.gg/bot/mee6
I want to get top.gg/bot/square
not possible anymore and hasn't been for a few years
ah ok


your add is so good 1 person saw it and 34 people clicked
No auctions for me tonight ;-;
1 AM 🥲
tomorrow is holidays anyways
ez
in germany
Oh, true, 3rd of October
I don’t work 🤷♂️ plus it’s at 5pm for me
It doesnt work ,i can bought an ad
Correct, 24 hours to pay
I have a question, I see this a lot and it always confuses me. Someone will often bid on something that has like 600 impressions and they will do something like 1@100... Like, if they win are they spending 100 on that 600 impressions? or does it default back to 1 dollar. I always assume they're going to spend 100 for them 600 impressions and sometimes ill even let it go so they will win. Now im second thinking it..
Like i know i could do something like 1.25@1.25 and gain it back.. but.
What holiday?
Tag der Einheit / Day of something
the first number is the amount they pay per 1000 impressions
the second number is their maximum budget
so if they bid 1@100 but only get 600 impressions, theyd only pay .60 cents
got you. Thanks for clearing that up!
an impression is a view of your ad
So 600 impressions are 600 views
yep
please dm xiuh for auctions support thanks (dont actually)
That auto message is not valid for this week, correct?
dangit, 3 extra hours
Why are auctions later today?
an unfortunate bug
yeah just this week
I second that
you dont have to bid at all until the last 3 mins
it doesnt matter if you bid earlier
ive seen people still get impressions if they bid earlier
yeah, just saying that you dont have to bid early
well this week has a problem of some people not being able to bid later
Yeah its very unfortunate, we understand that some people will not be able to stay up
If we would have been able to fix it, we would have done so 
what
Will it always be at this time from now on?
No, just today
Just to confirm is the bidding ending in 2 or 3 hours
around 2 hours and 45 minutes ish
It ends in <t:1696284000:R>
Ok cool.
Only if it sponsors mine
most people don't bid until the last 10 ish minutes
yeah lol i thought i was going to have it easy
lol
Yeah the countdown wasnt precise until it got to 1 hour left
the time shown on the countdown on the website itself is accurate
ok it is hard for asia people for bidding
do you have any solution for this :))
Can I have some information how it will change?
the reason that it was late was because it started late last week. this week it will start on time and therefore end on time
It is also good for medium or low bidder like us when now we have more slots to win
- No I mean even it is on time it will be 2:00 am on Bangkok or Ho Chi Minh City time so it is hard for our countries to keep camping and bidding
I dont know what you mean by that then
it always ends at 7pm UTC, it was just a little extended today because of a bug
If there is a bid placed in the last 2 minutes it will still extend like normal
if its extended people can place more bids, if not then they are final yes
Yes, if they have ended they are done
You can to go https://auctions.top.gg/pay to pay
Discord is the easiest way to communicate over voice, video, and text. Chat, hang out, and stay close with your friends and communities.
Normally it is 24 hours after auctions end, but I'm not sure about this one because we ended late. I would say you should pay before 7pm UTC tomorrow (so about 21 hours from now)
I'd have to pay using card this week but then I should be able to use partial funds from my wallet next week since I'm getting ~1k impressions refunded
No worries. This week is a bit weird
But who knows, maybe tomorrow there will be 2k impressions
You have to pay before the next cycle starts, and you get the refunds from last week when the next cycle starts, so you won't be able to use refunds from last week to pay for this week
yeah (unfortunately?)
its always like that
true
they go up in order of cpm bid - so the highest on the leaderboard is first, followed by the second, etc
until all the way down the list
then it should go live around 7pm utc tomorrow (tuesday)
nice
hahaha how did the time change?
had my alarm clock set and everything..
wish we were @'d of the 2nd time change :(
yoooooo fastspring finally shows the correct merchant name on bank statements now
before it used to give the name of some random SEO site
it still and always showed FS *discordbots for me
used to show ahrefs.com
I've never seen that happen before lol
fastspring
pls make sure there's not this issue next week. no one can bid at 1 or 2 am
There's a magical thing called timezones, during the normal time some people still bid at 1-2am in their timezone
are the auction-advertisements live?
not yet
-golive
When do ads go live?
After bidding closes, there's a 24h payment window until 7pm UTC on Tuesday. During this time, all winning bidders must pay in full for their ads.
At 7pm UTC on Tuesday, all ads that have been successfully fully paid are scheduled for display during the coming cycle. One hour later, at 8pm UTC, these ads start to show.
Ads are displayed in order of highest CPM winning bids until all impressions are served. If you're near the top of the leaderboard you can expect your ad to go live around the start of the cycle. If you're closer to the bottom, it'll more likely be around the weekend or as late as the following Tuesday when the cycle ends.
💡 Partial payments using credits does not ensure partial impressions! Ads only go live for slots where payment requests have been paid in full!
also sending in like 4 channels won't help 
Although 7pm UTC is TBD due to the issue yesterday
😔 im on my smoke break my b
okay, ty <3
i know but half the world wont be able to
(EU, asia etc)
im in eu
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Yep
#auctions-support message
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It depends, especially based on which tag you picked
Picking a front page or another general tag will probably result in less ctr, but that's ok if your product doesn't fit any of the other tags
9% is an amazing CTR by industry standards
auctions just be like a competitive ahh game
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sniping prevention
if someone bids in the last minute it gets extended by 2 minutes
up to 2 hours i believe
When does the refund for excess impressions take place? I bought some, was expecting 1000 but only got 50, don't see a refund tho
when the cycle ends, which is tomorrow at 7pm utc
Auctions fixing is a bannable offense
emails are not 100 percent reliable, just go to https://auctions.top.gg/pay 
Discord is the easiest way to communicate over voice, video, and text. Chat, hang out, and stay close with your friends and communities.
it was just an idea, but my apologies
we sometimes give them out for promotional events, winning contests in our server, or as apologies for bugs or other issues, but there aren't any universal ones
giv 🤑
there aren't any currently public 
not all of them
ik i just meant mine
the tags i bid on ended thisminute
it was super competitive lmao
which tag
1000$ jesus
that's a lot 
🫠
1k$ for 5k clicks
meant 4k



