development

[past field]

the slash commands that i have so far work well

but I was wanting to also have my bot automatically respond in certain moments

like, how can i have my bot send a message when a new member joins the server

[sharp geyser]

Like not based off any user interaction?

Oh, so you'd use events.

[past field]

i was reading that

and i tried to add it based on what i was reading but i guess i was doing it incorrectly

again, i’m very new so sorry if im asking for too much

[sharp geyser]

if you are using discord.js they help you by attaching all these events to the client class.
so say you have this setup:

const client = new Client();

client.on("guildMemberAdd", (member) => {
  // do something when the member joins
});

client.login("bot token");

this is a simple way to do it

You can listen for any events by using on method on the client

Note, some events do require priveledged intents to use them fully

[past field]

that was what i was currently trying to understand

i didn’t know what “intents” were

[sharp geyser]

Ah, so basically they just tell discord what data or events you are wanting to receive from them.

[past field]

ohh ok. when i was setting up the application in the portal, there were some “intent” options on there, I just skipped it until i learned what they did

[green kestrel]

think of intents like choices in a menu at a restaurant

[sharp geyser]

It used to be you never had to tell discord what intents you wanted to give them, by default they just gave you everything. But ofc that was not correct so now they have you specify it.

[green kestrel]

you place your order (set intents)
waiters bring that food (discord delivers events)

[past field]

ok i’m following

[past field]

god i love this analogy

[green kestrel]

if you didn't order it you don't get it

[past field]

okay i gotcha

[sharp geyser]

Yea so those are the priveledged intents you have to enable. Now with those intents it doesn't mean you won't recieve those events if you don't have it enabled. You just wont receive certain data from discord.

Those are the "higher costing items" to use brain's anology

[past field]

so i should go back into the portable and enable them?

[sharp geyser]

Nope

Unless you need them.

[past field]

oh

For reference - I’m making a custom bot for just my server only

for now at least

[sharp geyser]

Thats fine :D

[past field]

so to set an intent to do something like sending a message to my mod channel when a new member joins, how would i set that intent?

[sharp geyser]

Well, first off you'd need to set the GuildMembers intent. This allows you to receive the appropriate events.

[past field]

and i’d have to modify discord.js to do that?

[pale vessel]

yes, u also need to set the intents for ur client while connecting

[sharp geyser]

that can be done with

const {Client, IntentsBitField} = require("discord.js")

const { GuildMembers } = IntentsBitField.Flags;

const client = new Client({
  intents: [GuildMembers]
})

client.login("bot token")

[pale vessel]

it's a bit weird for privileged intents but the toggles on the portal are for allowing your bot to use the privileged intents

[sharp geyser]

Also you will need to enable this in the bot portal:

As the GuildMembers intent is a privileged one.

[past field]

ok let me do this now

[sharp geyser]

Also if you are wondering what const {Client, IntentsBitField} = require("discord.js") this part does. I am just doing a thing called "destructuring" which essentially just pulls the stuff I want from the package. This works because discord.js exports those for us

Almost everything can be destructured in js (iirc)

[past field]

ok gotcha

[sharp geyser]

someone back me up on this I haven't used js in ages

[past field]

done :✅

[past field]

is there anywhere specific i need to put this?

[sharp geyser]

well, if you haven't split your code into multiple files then in your main file

[past field]

oh lord

[sharp geyser]

I assume you haven't since you started 2 days ago

creating modules will be a challenge for someone who just started

[sharp geyser]

oh no thats node_modules those are the packages you install aha

[past field]

ohhhh lol i gotcha

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-grandpa-well-shit-grandfather-oh-shit-gif-17419001

[sharp geyser]

yea so what does your file structure look like I wonder

[past field]

for the commands?

[sharp geyser]

for your project

[past field]

If that's what you mean

[sharp geyser]

oh cool you do seperate your commands into other files

good

organization is key to keep a sane mind

[past field]

oh yes i need them all separated lol

[sharp geyser]

anyway, you'd likely do all your events in the index.js for now until you can separate those as well

just modify your client to take in the GuildMembers intent

and then client.on("guildMemberAdd") or whatever event you want to use

a useful tool to learn discord.js is the docs as well

https://discord.js.org/docs/packages/discord.js/14.14.1/Client:Class#guildMemberAdd

[past field]

that’s what i’ve been sorta studying to learn all of this 🎉

[sharp geyser]

essentially all events will work the same

client.on("eventName", (args) => {})

replace eventName with the name you want to listen to

and args with the properties the event gives

if it gives multiple do client.on("eventName", (arg1, arg2, arg3) => {})

[past field]

okay so

I can skip line 58 and add it starting on line 59?

[sharp geyser]

yup

doesn't matter where you put the event listener

so long as client is defined

[past field]

@sharp geyser You're about to hate me

[sharp geyser]

Whats up

[past field]

so this is what I am adding?

[sharp geyser]

okay so essentially yes, you just modify your current client tho

also you don't HAVE to do it how I do

its just how i'd recommend

[past field]

ok so

how do you send it as a copy-able code like that

[sharp geyser]

you mean highlighted?

[past field]

yes

[past field]

like you did here

[sharp geyser]

oh thats simple

discord allows code highlighting

console.log("Hello, World")

[past field]

mine shows as plain text lol

[sharp geyser]

you need to include the highlight symbol js in this case

[past field]

js

const { GUILD_MEMBERS } = Intents.FLAGS;

const client = new Client({
  intents: [GUILD_MEMBERS]
});

client.on('ready', () => {
  console.log(`Logged in as ${client.user.tag}!`);
});

client.on('guildMemberAdd', member => {
  // This is the channel ID where you want to send the welcome message
  const channelId = 'your_channel_id_here';
  
  const channel = member.guild.channels.cache.get(channelId);
  if (!channel) return; // Channel not found, do nothing
  
  channel.send(`Welcome to the server, ${member.user}!`);
});

client.login("bot token");

[sharp geyser]

its important to use 3 open ticks and 3 closing ticks

const { Client, Intents } = require("discord.js");

const { GUILD_MEMBERS } = Intents.FLAGS;

const client = new Client({
  intents: [GUILD_MEMBERS]
});

client.on('ready', () => {
  console.log(Logged in as ${client.user.tag}!);
});

client.on('guildMemberAdd', member => {
  // This is the channel ID where you want to send the welcome message
  const channelId = 'your_channel_id_here';
  
  const channel = member.guild.channels.cache.get(channelId);
  if (!channel) return; // Channel not found, do nothing
  
  channel.send(Welcome to the server, ${member.user}!);
});

client.login("bot token");

[past field]

Oh i see ok

[sharp geyser]

yea

also if you want it highlighted

directly after the 3 first ticks, include the highlighting symbol

which in this case would be js

[past field]

ok gotcha

[past field]

sorta cheated here... but if I put in the channel ID and the welcome message.. would this work?

[sharp geyser]

yea

assuming the channel is in cache

which iirc channels are always cached

[past field]

ok so im adding this to index.js

[winged linden]

I have a question, i wanna start sharding really soon but how will i be able to manage an express app linked to my bot? How will i fetch specific data from a specific guild?

[sharp geyser]

Pretty sure you just broadcast to the shards idk if this is still a thing

[winged linden]

Do u have any good guides to start sharding?

Wanna start sharding soon

[sharp geyser]

Does your bot need it?

[winged linden]

Yes, currently at around 500 & growing rapidly

Better start early

And my functions are resourse intensive

So yes i need it

[quartz kindle]

shards usually have a master process that controls them

ie:
shard manager
v
-> shard1
-> shard2
-> shard3
-> shard4

the shard manager can communicate with the shards, and individual shards can communicate with the manager

shards can also communicate with other shards through the manager, also known as broadcasting

you can run webapps on the manager process

requests to the webapp can be broadcast to shards from the manager

ie:
webapp receives request for a specific guild > manager requests data from shard > shard returns guild data > webapp responds with guild data

[sage bobcat]

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[quartz kindle]

hello fiath punto

:3

[past field]

what is the highlight symbol?

[pale vessel]

the programming language (for instance js or javascript, both work)

[past field]

ok gotcha

[winged linden]

Thanks alot for the clear info, was really helpful!

[sharp geyser]

once again saving the day

[past field]

@sharp geyser

you taught me so much about event thank you!

so I have something I want to try and I think i know what to do based on what i’ve been reading and based on what you helped me with

if i wanted the bot to auto respond to lets say emoji

like whenever someone uses it, the bot auto responds with a joke of some sort

i would enable the “message content” intent?

[sharp geyser]

yep precisely

[past field]

ok gotcha

how does this look

client.on('message', message => {
    // Check if the message contains the specified emoji
    if (message.content.includes(':cryingmo:')) {
        // Respond with a random joke about being sad
        const jokes = [
            "Why did the scarecrow win an award? Because he was outstanding in his field!",
            "Why don't scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything!",
            "Why couldn't the bicycle stand up by itself? It was two-tired!",
            // Add more jokes here
        ];

        const randomJoke = jokes[Math.floor(Math.random() * jokes.length)];
        message.channel.send(randomJoke);
    }
});```

[sharp geyser]

I honestly dont remember if you can handle emotes like that

so its best to test it out and see

if it doesn't work come back

[deft wolf]

Also messageCreate instead of message in client.on

This was changed in v13 if I remember correctly

[warm surge]

^^

[sharp geyser]

real question is what version are they using

[deft wolf]

14

[sharp geyser]

hopefully the latest

but who knows

oh right NyNu you are helping them as well

[past field]

omg i need this emoji

nynu is a discord bot coding god in my eyes

[sharp geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/784640575722618910.webp?size=44&quality=lossless

theres the image

use it how you want

[past field]

one of the most patient persons i’ve ever communicated with in my life

[past field]

i love this

[past field]

i probably have to input the actual emoji ID, that’s what i had me do with a / command I’ve done

[past field]

ok i’ll do this

success 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

thank you @sharp geyser @deft wolf

[past field]

this is literally a picture of me crying by the way

[deft wolf]

Congratulations

[past field]

ok another question

is there a way for me to code my ban command to ban a user by ID that is not in the server?

i have a bot that i use to do that but I want to be able to learn how to do that with my custom bot

this is my ban command code

const { Permissions, TextChannel } = require('discord.js');

module.exports = {
    data: new SlashCommandBuilder()
        .setName('ban')
        .setDescription('Bans a user')
        .addStringOption(option => option.setName('user').setDescription('The user to ban (mention or ID)').setRequired(true))
        .addStringOption(option => option.setName('reason').setDescription('Reason for the ban').setRequired(true))
        .toJSON(),
    async execute(interaction) {
        // Check if the user has the necessary permissions to ban members
        if (!interaction.member.permissions.has(Permissions.FLAGS.BAN_MEMBERS)) {
            return interaction.reply({ content: "You don't have permission to ban members.", ephemeral: true });
        }

        // Get the user from the command options
        const userOption = interaction.options.getString('user');
        const user = interaction.guild.members.cache.find(member => member.user.id === userOption || member.toString() === userOption);

        // Check if a valid user was found
        if (!user) {
            return interaction.reply({ content: "Please specify a valid user to ban.", ephemeral: true });
        }

        // Get the ban reason
        const reason = interaction.options.getString('reason');

        // Attempt to ban the user
        try {
            await interaction.guild.members.ban(user, { reason });

            // Prepare information to post in the specified channel
            const channel = interaction.client.channels.cache.get('1179382116077809714');
            if (channel instanceof TextChannel) {
                await channel.send(`Banned User Information:\n- Discord Name: ${user.user.tag}\n- Discord User ID: ${user.user.id}\n- Reason for Ban: ${reason}`);
            } else {
                console.error("Failed to send ban information. Channel is not a TextChannel.");
            }

            return interaction.reply({ content: `${user.user.tag} has been banned.`, ephemeral: true });
        } catch (error) {
            console.error(error);
            return interaction.reply({ content: 'There was an error while banning the user.', ephemeral: true });
        }
    }
}```

[deft wolf]

I think the only option to ban a user by id (considering that you have never seen this user) is to use guild.bans.create(userId)

I've never used it personally, but it's probably what you're looking for

https://discord.js.org/docs/packages/discord.js/14.14.1/GuildBanManager:Class#create

[sharp geyser]

This relies on the user being in cache

Which means that if they have not shared a server with the bot, then they can't be banned

Best thing you can do is ban them when they join

Which just requires you to have their id and just put that in an array of blacklisted ids that get queried when a person joins. if their id matches any in the array automatically ban them

[deft wolf]

All these moderation bots must have a very difficult time working because of this cache, and people continue to create more moderation bots

[past field]

Ah ok I gotcha

[past field]

ok another question

nvm ignore me

[runic relic]

Just want to ask regarding it is worth it to switch from discordpy to discordjs?
I feel that my bot have a bit slight slow response compare to other bot...

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

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[runic relic]

i see

[sage bobcat]

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[solemn latch]

It might be helpful to do some basic performance checking to determine if it's actual bot performance issues or just a latency issue.

[sage bobcat]

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[green kestrel]

does it?

[sharp geyser]

According to the source code yea

when you call .create it checks for the ID in the users cache, if it doesn't exist it throws an error

actually wait

I might of misread this when tired

[green kestrel]

why, if it takes an id

that seems weird

[sharp geyser]

yea no it seems to rely on the cache

[sharp geyser]

I might be misreading the source code

[deft wolf]

I need to try this

[sharp geyser]

but it does make calls to the cache manager

which I can only assume will check the cache for the user

Following the rabbit hole

this.client.users.resolveId

Now lets assume the user does indeed not share any server with the bot, none of those checks will even remotely check out

so it will call super.resolveId

[deft wolf]

[sharp geyser]

now UserManager extends CachedManager which extends DataManager which finally has this resolveId method

[green kestrel]

this is weird, if you have an id you don't need cache

that's how discord API works

[sharp geyser]

now as NyNu seems to point out it does still work

which leads me to believe its not actually relying on cache, but for some reason the methods they have to check its a valid id or whatever exists on the CacheManager or whatever CacheManager extends which is whatever that extends

😔

[deft wolf]

Typical discord.js moment

[sharp geyser]

Djs code base is basically 1 class extends another, which that class then extends another and that class also extends another

By the end of it 1 class has 4 extensions

not even kidding you

GuildBanManager extends CachedManager extends DataManager extends BaseManager

BaseManager is literally just a class that defines client

💀

[sharp geyser]

discordjs just has a messy code base

im surprised anyone can commit to it

[green kestrel]

discord.js moment

[radiant kraken]

it's just way too overengineered lmao

[harsh nova]

Don't forget how half the features get deprecated from one version to the next

[green kestrel]

this is the JavaScript way! change it every month to keep people re learning

[sharp geyser]

I agree

I wish there was a better alternative for js developers

but djs is just too deeprooted

[green kestrel]

there is - move to a better language

I recommend C++ or rust

[sharp geyser]

[radiant kraken]

what does the implementation language have to do with it

[lament rock]

Now I dont mean to self advertise - but using libs that interact with the raw api like SnowTransfer and CloudStorm are literally amazing

[green kestrel]

they have better libs

[sharp geyser]

Im starting to pick up go myself tho I still dk if I want to use go or rust for my api

[green kestrel]

what is the state of libs for go

[sharp geyser]

dk yet

[radiant kraken]

discordgo ig

[green kestrel]

disgo seems more up to date

[lament rock]

steer away from managed libraries

[green kestrel]

it's also the only one using API 10

[sharp geyser]

idk I feel like go's reliablity when it comes to building an api is better, but rust is also so nice in its own way

I will think about programming language later tho

[green kestrel]

discord is one of those weird things where it's very much a thing to choose your language based on the quality and maintained state of its discord libs

only that could explain why so many dpp users these days lol

[lament rock]

If you interact with the raw api, not really

the vertically integrated libs all mostly suck

[green kestrel]

if you must interact with raw API the lib is missing features

[lament rock]

One of the main reasons I stick with node and really can get great cpu and memory stats is because of proactively removing bloat

[green kestrel]

and if it's easier to interact with raw API than use the lib the features are badly made (d.js)

[lament rock]

such as? I can't see anything where you'd HAVE to have a library

[green kestrel]

do you enjoy reinventing wheels then?

[lament rock]

You're yet to give me an example

[green kestrel]

if you're doing raw API calls how do you deal with rate limits

[sharp geyser]

I see no problem with wanting to interact with the api in your own way.

[lament rock]

That is included in the lib I mentioned and maintain lol. Just raw dogging fetch isnt the way

[sharp geyser]

Technically every lib is just reinventing the wheel in their own language

[lament rock]

Implementing rate limiting is trivial though so that's such a weird example

[green kestrel]

in C++ all other wheels were broken or square

[green kestrel]

not as trivial as you think, because you got IP based cloudflare rate limits on top of discord, and then webhooks use two different types of rate limit depending on if they have a bot token or not

[lament rock]

https://github.com/DasWolke/SnowTransfer/blob/master/src/RequestHandler.ts

It is quite trivial to me

Though I guess it depends on your architecture sure

[green kestrel]

what the fuck my phone tries to play .TS as a video

[lament rock]

There are ts videos

[green kestrel]

this ain't one

mimetypes OnePlus use them

[lament rock]

Cringe

this isnt even the raw github

[green kestrel]

how do shards work in this lib

[sharp geyser]

isn't it purely a rest client?

there is no shards

[lament rock]

This is just a rest client

[sharp geyser]

CloudStorm is the gateway client

i assume

[lament rock]

https://github.com/DasWolke/CloudStorm

yea

[green kestrel]

so there's only ever one of this acting as a proxy

yes?

[lament rock]

You can daisy chain proxy

or spread the proxy if you have a special way to get bucket info

[green kestrel]

just wondering how different shards share global rate limit info

if you had cloudstorm doing sharding

[lament rock]

cloud uses snow for get /gateway/bot so you can pass a modified snow instance that has refs to the proxy

[radiant kraken]

both go and rust are good for APIs

[sharp geyser]

indeed

its just which is more appropriate for my use case

[radiant kraken]

what's your use case?

[sharp geyser]

hm well, i'd rather not get into that here as its personal but I can dm you about it

[radiant kraken]

sure

[eternal osprey]

20|Koopapi  | Error: listen EADDRINUSE: address already in use :::4434
20|Koopapi  |     at Server.setupListenHandle [as _listen2] (node:net:1751:16)
20|Koopapi  |     at listenInCluster (node:net:1799:12)
20|Koopapi  |     at Server.listen (node:net:1887:7)
20|Koopapi  |     at Object.<anonymous> (/root/site/koop.js:640:13)
20|Koopapi  |     at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1256:14)
20|Koopapi  |     at Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1310:10)
20|Koopapi  |     at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1119:32)
20|Koopapi  |     at Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:960:12)
20|Koopapi  |     at Object.<anonymous> (/usr/lib/node_modules/pm2/lib/ProcessContainerFork.js:33:23)
20|Koopapi  |     at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1256:14) {
20|Koopapi  |   code: 'EADDRINUSE',
20|Koopapi  |   errno: -98,
20|Koopapi  |   syscall: 'listen',
20|Koopapi  |   address: '::',
20|Koopapi  |   port: 4434
20|Koopapi  | }```

i already tried finding the process and using kill pid

but port is still in use..?

how can i fix that

[green kestrel]

by waiting

when you close a port of you don't close it properly e.g. you kill the process the port changes to FIN_WAIT state and can stay open in that state for ages, like minutes

it's to stop a new process immediately sniping the port, it's a security feature

https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=ns100.0.7224400.2917201en_us&docLocale=en_US

it's basically because TCP expects a proper close() to be a 2 way thing like connecting

[eternal osprey]

i see

thank you!

Each day a new day to learn ig!

are you sure it won't take hours/days of waiting?

cuz then i'll just switch to an alternative https port

[green kestrel]

no 6 mins 45 secs apparently

or a reboot

if it takes longer you got a process still open somewhere

[eternal osprey]

yeah i used the lsof with root access and it showed no open processes though

so ig we just wait 🙂

[eternal osprey]

also another question

[eternal osprey]

root@awsomecordServices:~/site# sudo netstat -tuln | grep 4434
root@awsomecordServices:~/site#

though it still says port already used...

root@awsomecordServices:~/site# ps aux | grep Z
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 1030251 0.0 0.0 8900 732 pts/1 S+ 13:10 0:00 grep --color=auto Z

aha

it became a zombie process

what the fuck can i do

[past field]

wait a minute… did you do this with my ban js code that i posted here?

[deft wolf]

No, I used my eval just to check how this function works

[past field]

ohh ok gotcha

[past field]

is anyone here and have some time to help me out with something 👀

[pale vessel]

it's better to just ask so that anybody could just answer if they saw

[past field]

true

I’m just trying to move my project over from my macbook pro to my windows pc desktop

writing a discord bot with discord.js slashcommandbuilder in virtual studio code

i uploaded the entire project folder onto google drive and downloaded it to the desktop on my pc

installed node

[wheat mesa]

yeah no you can't do that

[pale vessel]

is there any reason u don't use git?

[wheat mesa]

just copy all of the files without node_modules

Then run npm i in the command line

and yeah ideally you should use git but if this is just a fun project then it's probably not fully necessary

[past field]

so if i download the files to my pc desktop, can i just delete the node modules

& im creating a custom bot for just my server

[wheat mesa]

yes, then when you run npm i, it'll install the proper node modules you need

[past field]

ok i got you

and i’d have to re-create the .env file? cause i don’t see where it copied that file

[wheat mesa]

I mean if you used an env file and didn't copy it over then yeah

[past field]

ok i’ll try this really quickly

[past field]

it was suggested that I use google drive since my discord token was in the .env

[past field]

it appeared after i deleted the node modules

ok got it going!

thank the lord

[lament rock]

You can load env files into node using dotenv

and you just transfer your env file to whatever server you want

gdrive isnt a good place since people have found ways to bypass google 2fa last I heard

And plus having a secure server you login with private public key pairs means hackers can get on unless they have your private key which means physical machine or they take the files off your machine and know where the keys go to.

[spark pebble]

Does anybody have any feedback if this would be consdereed a privacy concern?

specifically the guild name part of course

For those who can't be bothered to read (dont blame you)

• card collecting game, when somebody claims a card that is of the super duper rare rarity, it announces it in our "hub" discord.

is it a privacy concern to say "@user claimed a cursed card >> in guild_name << ??

[lament rock]

Yeah do not post guild names in other guilds unless its for your eyes only

Just say that a user claimed it

[lyric mountain]

what you do with all zombies

sudo kill -9 1030251

[past field]

anyone have experience with SQlite?

[neon leaf]

alias fucking="sudo"
fucking kill -9 1030251

[past field]

what should I do to get the bot to recognize button interactions?

is that considered an event that needs to be added to the index.js? or is that something in the actual code that i need to add?

[craggy pine]

Buttons are a collector. And you do a .on('collect') event and check the condition when clicked on.

[eternal osprey]

[sterile lantern]

https://discordjs.guide/message-components/interactions.html#updates

[eternal osprey]

@green kestrel i have finally finished the tcp parser

listen i was struggling

like fr

using this protocol i could make it happen

i used this Go Back N, i basically setup a connection in the form of a window and kepy sending packets until the queue was full. I then labeled each sent packet, and waited until i received an acknowledgement. iF IT WAS duplicate, it means it wasn't received properly and i resent all the packets. Hardest part was figuring out how to delete all received packets if a duplicate was found at the receiving end (as the will receive all packets again anyways, hence i had to try to be efficient).
I thought first, maybe i can just resend the 1 failed packet. But if one packet errored we have no guarantee that the rest of the packets will be sent properly, nor will the output be sorted. I could maybe have sorted it receivingend

[past field]

I’m very new to this, like I started this project maybe 3 days ago so I’m learning all of the terminology!

[past field]

thank you!

[earnest phoenix]

🤓

[eternal osprey]

all i am saying

[earnest phoenix]

J’ai votre adresse

[eternal osprey]

you have my adress i really don't care

i know my adress already

[earnest phoenix]

Envoi d’une bombe à l’endroit où vous vous trouvez

[eternal osprey]

i ain't reading allat, happy birthday though ^0^

[earnest phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/aaa-gif-1155116025040809968

[past field]

ok just want to make sure i’m understanding correctly

[real rose]

????

[earnest phoenix]

who is the owner of this server

[real rose]

@pliant gorge

[earnest phoenix]

they r definitely in a basement

[real rose]

ok

[earnest phoenix]

No a human

there gotta be a high rank

[past field]

?

[past field]

is this supposed to be some type of insult?

[eternal osprey]

she said they would bomb me or sum

[past field]

random

[real rose]

i saw that

[eternal osprey]

hey guys, what price is an ecommerce website usually?

[earnest phoenix]

7 maybe 8

[real rose]

high enough if its fully fledged and fully custom

[eternal osprey]

it has payments using stripe, good assortiment with products, emailing system.

what would be the minimum for such sites.

would the range be 700$>?

[earnest phoenix]

I offer a bread slice

[earnest phoenix]

can I bid plss

[real rose]

-m @earnest phoenix idk what you're doing here, but you're speedrunning a ban here. Gonna slow you down for a bit | 3h

[gilded plank]

happybaka#0 was successfully muted

[real rose]

bro just trolling

[eternal osprey]

she's in that life phase where she tryna be funny for validation

[real rose]

really thought they were doing msth

[past field]

thank god you muted

[past field]

wow this is such a smooth way to mute someone. your point AND the command all in one post. beautiful

[sharp geyser]

@wheat mesa Low Level Learning's video on switch statements is so confusing

[past field]

ok so if i’m understanding correctly

i need to add an event listener to my index.js for button interactions

create the buttons in the /command.js code

send the buttons in a message

and add handle button interaction in the event listener that i put in my index.js file?

[sharp geyser]

yep

though djs has a way to do that in your code as well if you wanted.

You don't necessarily need to do an event listener for it

[past field]

will that be easier?

[sharp geyser]

yes

[past field]

@cyan lake for reference, I’m trying to get this tic tac toe game to work

[sharp geyser]

If you do it in your command code you can handle the data you need in the code itself.

you can also disconnect the handler anytime you want

let me find the docs for it

I haven't done this in a while

[past field]

okay

[sharp geyser]

yea so it seems you can use InteractionCollector

https://discord.js.org/docs/packages/discord.js/14.14.1/InteractionCollector:Class

[past field]

lord

[sharp geyser]

essentially its just

const { InteractionCollector, Client, ComponentType } = require('discord.js')

const client = new Client({intents:["WhateverIntents"]})

const collector = new InteractionCollector(client, {
  componentType: ComponentType.Button,
  interactionResponse: the interaction
})

collector.collect((interaction) => {
  // do something with the button
})

at least I think, based off the docs

actually wait

there might be an easier way

This is one method, it just gives you more control over the collector

[sharp geyser]

https://discordjs.guide/message-components/interactions.html here is an easier method

It allows you to do it based off the interaction response without the need of using InteractionCollector, unless you need find control over where to use the collector in case you need to do so in a specific guild, channel or on a specific message

[past field]

would you mind taking a look at the code? 👀

i might be able to see what you mean better in real time

no offense if you say no lol i know that’s a lot to ask

[sharp geyser]

I can take a look if you post it here

[sharp geyser]

idk about the validity of the functions, but that seems correct in handling button interactions

[sharp geyser]

Wait what is currentPlayer

you make no definition for that

[past field]

ah

that is suppose to display in the embed whose turn it currently is and only let that player play the turn

[sharp geyser]

yes but the thing is

currentPlayer is simply nothing

it isn't defined

at least not in this code, and you don't import anything about it either

[past field]

ah

ok i see

hm

[past field]

ok idk how to fix it lol

[sharp geyser]

well you just define the person's whos move it is

typical rules of tic tac toe is X goes first

whoever is X set them to be the current player. then when they make their move set the currentPlayer to be the other person.

[past field]

ohhhh ok i got you

OH

ok i get it

[past field]

ok so it looks like it functioning the way it’s supposed to, it’s just giving the “interaction failed” message.. but the buttons are working fine, it’s switching turns, everything is working.. just giving interaction failed with each button tap

[sterile lantern]

its because you didnt reply to the interaction

discord requires a response within 3 seconds

you could send an ephemeral message saying that their move was recorded

for reference this is what a ephemeral response looks like

[past field]

ah

ok i gotcha

[sharp geyser]

better check that garage door

but yea what sam said

each button is also considered an interaction. So you have to do something when its actioned

You can either defer the reply and edit it later, or respond to it immediately

Also one thing i'd do is send an ephemeral message to the other player when its their turn

that way you are doing something and notifying them

[past field]

ahhhh ok got it

[past field]

😂😂 i did too while i was recording that

[past field]

good idea

[past field]

ok this taught me a lot

@sterile lantern thank you so much as well

[sterile lantern]

np

I recommend you watch some tutorials on discord js as they definitely helped me understand how it works a lot better

It’s nice to have someone explain it to you step by step haha

[past field]

it is lol

[past field]

i didn’t even think of this!!

[crystal wigeon]

whatis wrong with topgg?

people are not able to vote for the bot

its been like this like amost everyday

[warm surge]

#site-status

[desert urchin]

@warm surge

[crystal wigeon]

I’m following this but my question Is why is there so many frequent issues

[deft wolf]

We know exactly as much as you... which is nothing. We have to wait and that's it

[thorny cargo]

So I am having issues with my db

Error

MongooseError: Operation `autodeletes.findOne()` buffering timed out after 10000ms at Timeout.<anonymous> (C:\Users\alban\documents\github\autodelete-v14\node_modules\mongoose\lib\drivers\node-mongodb-native\collection.js:186:23) at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:573:17) at process.processTimers (node:internal/timers:514:7)

What I've done after research :

• Restart my vps 🤡
• Give access to my IP separately than just have the 0.0.0.0
• Try to connect via compass and check if there is any issues (no issues)
• Try to find different ways to connect but nothing seemed to do anything.

Right now, I am using mongoose on node.js , I havent touched the code for a while and this cam up yesterday, as a result my app will not work.

[frosty gale]

that is very weird

im not sure what buffering means in this context

mongodb terminology

you can do findone queries normally in other places though?

@thorny cargo sounds like you just need to do an await on your model connection or something of that sort

[thorny cargo]

 async connect() {
    if (mongoose.connection.readyState === 0) {
      try {
        console.log(`${ChalkAdvanced.blue('Database: ')} ${ChalkAdvanced.gray('>')} ${ChalkAdvanced.yellow('connecting...')}`);
        await mongoose.connect(mongoUrl)
        if (mongoose.connection.readyState === 1){
        console.log(`${ChalkAdvanced.blue('Database: ')} ${ChalkAdvanced.gray('>')} ${ChalkAdvanced.green('Successfully connected')}`);
      } else {
        console.log(`STATE OF THE DB HEREEEEEEEEEEEE : ${mongoose.connection.readyState}`)
      } 
      } catch (err) {
        console.error(err);
      }
    } else {
      console.log('Already connected to database.');
    }
  }```
so the connection is successful in the end, thats why it gets me confused , even tho it connects, it doesnt work, and it throws me those errors

[hoary apex]

guys what intents must be given to a chat bot??

[pale vessel]

privileged intents? message content

[deft wolf]

The ones your bot will need

[pale vessel]

although if u use slash commands u don't need that

[crude totem]

whos managing the top.gg python library

can we exclude discord.py from pip because theres many other good libraries out there and discord.py isnt the one always being sued

[stuck pewter]

help why i get this error :

https://sourceb.in/a5mXniL2pI

could someone help?

[deft wolf]

But what should we help you with? This is an error that usually means that your bot took more than 3 seconds to respond to the interaction

Either your bot is terribly optimized or it performs a database query or some other action that takes more than 3 seconds

[stuck pewter]

how to fix it could u please take a look on my code and say what is the problem ,it it means alot to me if u did that code link: https://sourceb.in/PJWZBSBlmb

[deft wolf]

You use fetch in your command which pretty much means directly querying the api (if guild and channel are not in the cache). The best solution would be to use .deferReply() first and then .editReply() instead of .reply()

Also your interaction handler violates discord's developer guidelines. Your bot cannot create an invitation to the user's server without the user's knowledge. This is considered a privacy breach

[harsh nova]

^ we deny bots for doing that if we find them during testing and ban if we find it after the bot has been approved unless mentioned in the privacy policy

I strongly recomend not doing that

[stuck pewter]

i am sorry but it will be only in admin dev bot channel not a puplic channel

[harsh nova]

even still it's considered privacy invasion to generate an invite to a discord server without prior consent (such as a privacy policy)

[stuck pewter]

got it! ty

[sterile lantern]

what type of option is this called

oh wait i can put choices for string nvm

[past field]

ok question

let’s say i have my tic tac toe game set up to send an ephemeral after each turn - to have a response to the interaction button. instead of sending a new ephemeral everytime, i want it to just edit whose turn it is in the ephemeral.. would that edit be considered a response to the button interaction of the game?

this is what the game looks like for reference

[pale vessel]

you'd have to save the message/message id of the first ephemeral response and edit that instead on later turns

assuming they don't dismiss that one ephemeral response though

[sterile lantern]

you could probably have a regular msg (non-ephemeral) that edits each time

but im not quite sure if that counts as a 'response' to an interaction

[spark flint]

you dont have to send a reply

you can defer button update

which would prevent the need to send an empheral response every time

[sterile lantern]

yeah but after 15 minutes it'd show 'this application did not respond'

[spark flint]

nope

[sterile lantern]

really?

[spark flint]

yes

[sterile lantern]

oh wait that makes sense

you can just edit the msg

[spark flint]

for discord.js, its js await <ButtonInteraction>.deferUpdate()

then you can edit yeah

[sterile lantern]

lol i have that rn

defers cmd, then just edits the original reply

[spark flint]

[zinc plume]

https://youtu.be/WshG9kE_mrI
What do you think of this ticketing system? I'm still developing it

[deft wolf]

Do I understand correctly that your bot creates a channel only to set up a ticket system there?

And then deletes it?

[craggy pine]

is it better to await deferUpates? I use them a bit in my current project but I dont await them.

[spark flint]

await just means it waits for that action to finish first

in some conditions it can cause a broken race condition

for example, ```js
interaction.deferUpdate()

// maybe edit msg or smth
message.edit(/something/)

interaction.edit(/something/)```

it can cause errors saing interaction already deferred etc

[craggy pine]

In my cases my deferUpdates are used mainly to do a function without directly replying to the user back but also letting them know the button press worked.

[spark flint]

thats fair

i dont think it would matter too much in your case

[craggy pine]

I assumed so. Thanks for the insite.

[spark flint]

i just await stuff by default at this point lmfao

[sterile lantern]

lol same

[zinc plume]

yes

[past field]

hm. i’ll have to try this

Ok so I’ve decided to dedicate myself to creating a bingo game… I started today with simple creating button interactions for people to join the lobby and for the host the start the game and cancel the game

[pseudo grotto]

how can we report a bot doing this? i invited a bot from top.gg and uh as soon as it joined the server it generated a invite. 💀 idk what its doing with the invite im assuming its feeding it to the developer of the bot

[harsh nova]

Yeah absolutely report it

[past field]

this is what it does

this is the code, if anyone has a moment to look over it and tell me what I’m doing wrong 😭 that cancel message is supposed to be an ephemeral

[deft wolf]

Isn't that a bit over complicated? The same thing could be done on the same channel. There is nothing wrong with it, but personally I prefer to do everything on one channel instead of switching, especially since sometimes the bot may fail when creating a channel

[sterile lantern]

you cant send ephemeral messages

they must be part of a interaction reply

you should do i.reply

instead of interaction.channel.send

i dont think you can show an ephemeral message to everyone in the game, only to the person who interacted with the button

[lament rock]

this is correct

[sterile lantern]

although discord should support ephemeral msgs outside of interactions cuz they r cool

idk why they dont

🤷‍♂️

[past field]

ooohhhhhh

[sterile lantern]

in terms of your game (bingo), you could probably just edit the embed

stating that the person ended the game

you could also disable the buttons which shows that it was canceled

basically updating the message with new components, where the buttons are set as disabled

[past field]

what does i.reply do?

[lament rock]

Create Interaction Response

[past field]

where would the response go?

[sterile lantern]

it would reply to the interaction

like that

[past field]

ohhhhhhhh ok i see

and everyone who interacted with that button will get that reply

that’s what i was trying to get it to do

i thought setting it up with ephemeral true would do that lol

ok learning moment

[past field]

ok so ephemeral for the interaction response to the host, i.reply for response to everyone?

[sterile lantern]

ephemeral is an option you choose for i.reply

i.reply is a response to the interaction

[past field]

ohhhhhhhhh

[sterile lantern]

whereas interaction.channel.send is a regular message sent by the bot in that channel

[past field]

ok i got you

i think

[sterile lantern]

youre still not replying to the interaction for the cancel button

[past field]

yeah i just realized

[sterile lantern]

await i.reply({ content: 'You have canceled the game.', ephemeral: true });

something like that

[past field]

sorry to keep bothering lol

[sterile lantern]

what's not working?

[past field]

i’ll screen record, 1 sec

[sterile lantern]

i would probably edit the message at once:

                    // Disable only the cancel button
                    cancelButton.setDisabled(true);
                    row.components = [joinButton, startButton, cancelButton];
                    embed.setDescription("The game has been canceled. Sorry!");
                    await message.edit({ embeds: [embed], components: [row] });

just for the sake of efficiency lol

[past field]

ok lol

oh wait it’s working

but i just tried it with about 10 ppl in the lobby and the cancel button failed again 😭

[sterile lantern]

any errors in your logs?

[past field]

let me try again, i just made this modification to it

oh it works!!!!

ok now i need to add a button to give people the option to leave the game before it starts if they want to

[karmic delta]

@oak cliff you were the only open source contributor online, you can ping someone else who might be more relevant. The python sdk has malware on it I believe. This commit was covered by 19 other junk commits: https://github.com/top-gg/python-sdk/commit/ecb87731286d72c8b8172db9671f74bd42c6c534
The base58 package has something to do with crypto currency and the DateTime package has something to do with APIs

[oak cliff]

i cannot help with this

I dont work for top.gg anymore, sorry

[karmic delta]

do you know who does? Im not sure who to ping

[oak cliff]

I would escalate it to @harsh nova (leader of the external dev team) and he can escalate it further internally appropriately

[sharp geyser]

Honestly dont see how that is malware

but likely not needed depending on what the use case is

ones just an encoding library the other is just a date time library that depends on a 3rd party api, both are likely not needed but without looking at where those libs are used its hard to say

[karmic delta]

Idk, im just assuming as there is bitcoin related packages as well as API stuff and constructs that i forgot to mention is binary encoding

it is also the 19 junk commits that makes it interesting. It looks botted as the commit names are copies of other commits on the repo
it breaks the library anyways an needs to be fixed

[sharp geyser]

just make a pull request then

[harsh nova]

Yeah this does sound a bit sus. I'll take a look tomorrow but as I'm not that well versed in python it might take a sec or two

[karmic delta]

to clarify the 19 junk commits were just spaces being added and removed

[harsh nova]

Idk the python package ecosystem but it seems weird to remove a package listed by name and change it to links

[karmic delta]

it is not normal, also the packages are not needed. I am also curious how they were able to commit directly to main as they have no prior commits or anything

[harsh acorn]

Is there any Discord bots around there that will let me host predictions and then reward the people who picked the winning option. With a leaderboard? I run a eSports server to am wanting to do predictions on games

[harsh nova]

Yeahhh that's a really good question I'll look into

Afaik I don't have admin perms for the repo(s) but I can escalate to the people who do

[crude totem]

Could you give me an idea of when someone with the ability to make changes will be able to fix it? My users are counting on it, and it would be really helpful to have an estimated timeframe.

[karmic delta]

You could just install to the commits before. I forgot how but I know it possible

[crude totem]

hmm ill see if i can find anything on it

[sharp geyser]

you just use the commit has

pip install git+https://github.com/top-gg/python-sdk.git@bc3c062018cd951c7b51cf82b61681fdd2dde88a

That will install the python-sdk prior to all those junk commits

[radiant kraken]

i can make a pr to it

[sharp geyser]

Here's a reference to what I am talking about https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13685920/install-specific-git-commit-with-pip

Simple google search

[crude totem]

Awesome thank you

[outer crater]

With BDScript

with pyhton

python code

@bot.command(name='memberCount')
async def memberCount(ctx):
  await ctx.send(len(bot.users))

BDScript command

$membersCout

Why there is huge difference of member count?

[deft wolf]

It probably depends on how each language defines "users". Maybe the Python code shows the number of "unique" users and the BDScript code shows the overall number of users in the cache from each server where if someone is on two servers, it is counted as two

I have no experience in either

[outer crater]

yeah this makes a lot of sence but also there is one small issue and that is bot is in 16 server only and 5,257 users shares same server?
Thanks for helping

[glass pasture]

@bot.command(name='mc')
async def mc(ctx):
    total_members = 0
    for guild in bot.guilds:
        total_members += guild.member_count
    await ctx.send(f"{total_members}")```
This command will show you all members put together, but if a user is in 2 guilds it will count as 2

here is how you can do it when the user is in multiple guilds, but you want to count them only once

@bot.command(name='mc')
async def mc(ctx):
    unique_members = set()
    for guild in bot.guilds:
        for member in guild.members:
            unique_members.add(member.id)
    await ctx.send(f"{len(unique_members)}")```

[outer crater]

Thanks for the code

but bot aint responding to command " mc "

[glass pasture]

worked for me

if you are putting it into a cog, don't forget to pass the self

And reload it

Check if the command is not a duplicate of another async def "mc"

[outer crater]

dumb me using command without perfix

[glass pasture]

[outer crater]

Thanks!!! it worked

[glass pasture]

[outer crater]

we need more ppl like you

[glass pasture]

Glad i could help, even so, you gave me an idea to put the number of ppl in the presence

[outer crater]

Thanks again for helping...im kinda dumb, maybe I will be back

[glass pasture]

there is space for "le"

Well, i have to think to something else

[outer crater]

ppl

guys

[glass pasture]

But i will keep that in mind when i reach 5 digit users

[pale vessel]

wouldn't len(bot.users) achieve the same thing without the loop?

[glass pasture]

Actually, yeah
You could do it like this

@bot.command(name='mc')
async def mc(ctx):
    members = len(bot.users)
    await ctx.send(f"{members}")```

never cared about members count in guilds

[quartz kindle]

keep in mind that bot.users and guild.members rely on the cache

while guild.member_count doesnt

[glass pasture]

i know

realised that when i was starting the bot

if i was too "fast" it would show me less users

[quartz kindle]

do you fetch all members at start?

[glass pasture]

That's what the bot is doing at startup, yes

[quartz kindle]

thats unmanageable for most slightly larger bots

takes way too long to fully start and consumes huge amounts of memory

so once you get past a couple thousand guilds, you might wanna turn that off

[outer crater]

hey guys im back

how i can get that member count in activity presence

[glass pasture]

I will always be pretty comfy Sure i can store them elsewhere without getting them at every start-up and only read them. Or just approximate. Even so, the command wasn't for me, it was for Guy.

*ignore the music, too lazy to pause *

[glass pasture]

i did it into a cog

from discord.ext import commands, tasks
import discord

class Presence(commands.Cog):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot
        self.update_presence.start()

    @tasks.loop(minutes=30)
    async def update_presence(self):
        total_users = sum(len(guild.members) for guild in self.bot.guilds)
        await self.bot.change_presence(activity=discord.Activity(type=discord.ActivityType.watching, name=f"{total_users} gacha addicts"))

    @update_presence.before_loop
    async def before_update_presence(self):
        await self.bot.wait_until_ready()

def setup(bot):
    bot.add_cog(Presence(bot))```
keep in mind that this method gets the same user for every guild because "bigger number looks better"

[deft wolf]

I guess I'm the only one who doesn't care how many users "use" my bot

[glass pasture]

It's just... Bigger number make monkey brain go brrrrrr

[outer crater]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-rain-sad-animated-cartoon-gif-5194668

[acoustic bough]

if you want a big number then track VC time

[sharp geyser]

15 thousand days geez

[glass pasture]

now that's a cool idea

[glass pasture]

this is how i am loading my cogs
cog_path = 'cogs'
cogs_list = [
'ask',
'askevil',
'avatar_banner',
'banners',
'calculator',
'cute',
'edit',
'feedback',
'gacha_genshin',
'gacha_hi3rd',
'gacha_hsr',
'help',
'manage_gacha',
'music',
'mute',
'nsfw',
'ping',
'presence',
'prison',
'raspunsuri',
'reddit',
'reminders',
'say',
#'topgg',
'usage',
'webhookmanager',
'welcome',
'wiki',
'yande',
'yandesafe',
]

for cog in cogs_list:
bot.load_extension(f'cogs.{cog}')

i am still using a list because sometimes i just want to disable them
you should have

│
├── main.py
│
└── cogs
    │
    └── presence.py

[sharp geyser]

Do you have a cog per command?

[glass pasture]

not always

But for some, yeah

[sharp geyser]

That’s an interesting approach

[glass pasture]

it's nice when you can just reload the cog

[sharp geyser]

Typically cogs are made to group commands

[glass pasture]

Well, it depends per use case

I find it more suitable like this

In my case ask and askevil are kinda the same command but i preffer them to be separate, where
banners - 2 commands
calculator - 2 commands
every gacha has 4 commands etc

[sharp geyser]

Hey whatever works for you

[glass pasture]

yup

[zinc plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOv8oAU-KfE
like this?

[earnest phoenix]

How do I give space in the command name? for example "user info"

[deft wolf]

info is subcommand of user command in this case

You can't use spaces in command names

[earnest phoenix]

❤️

[sharp geyser]

I meannnn

Technically you could

If it’s message commands

But it’s not viable at all

[glass pasture]

In the app commands? Use subcommand groups and sub-groups

That's how you do it in py-cord

and for subcommands only

[past field]

question

with virtual studio code

if i have the terminal open and running my bot on my pc

what would happen if i open it and run it on my macbook at the same time?

i’m not going to, i’m just curious lol

[deft wolf]

Your bot will most likely start responding twice

[past field]

Ah ok gotcha

[deft wolf]

In the case of slash commands, you will most likely receive an error that this interaction has already received a response

[past field]

ohh ok gotcha

thank you!

So I was looking into what all is involved with having like server levels and server economy and all that and I read that there needs to be a database connected to the bot. I see that SQLite is a good one… is this information accurate? and if so, is SQLite good to use?

[solemn latch]

SQLite is perfectly fine for moderately sized databases.
It stores all of the database in a single file though, so its a bit more limited in capacity and growth. If you expect the bot to grow its better to use something intended more for larger production things.

I'd recommend using SQLite for now, once you're comfortable, or feel a need to you can move to something better.

[past field]

Perfect! Right now I’m coding a bot for my server only.. right now it has 900+ members and I’m using Maki as a the bot to manage the server levels and server currency and stuff. Would that be too big of capacity with SQLite?

[solemn latch]

With sqlite you should be able to handle thousands of servers, possibly up to a few hundred thousand... So I think so ^-^

[past field]

Ok perfect!!! Thank you

man

yall are teaching me so much

So this is another question and I’m sure the answer is loaded af

[solemn latch]

It helps because you're asking good questions, and genuinely want to learn.

[past field]

Is there a way to transfer the data from maki to my database in sqlite?

[solemn latch]

maki? 👀

I'm not sure what maki is, do they have a site?

[sterile lantern]

if you host your bot on cf workers, I’m p sure you can’t use sqlite

There is mongo http though

but yeah if u use slash cmds only cf workers are pretty nice

[past field]

Yes 1 sec

[past field]

cf workers? is that another database manager?

[solemn latch]

cf workers are amazing, but you dont need to worry about it for now.

[sterile lantern]

lol yeah don’t try using those now

they are sooooo painful

but something to look at down the road when you have more experience

[solemn latch]

Did you ever get waituntil working?

[sterile lantern]

yep

[solemn latch]

ay

[sterile lantern]

it needed to be a IIFE

[solemn latch]

I'm going to have to look into cf workers again sometime, I'm sure I'll have a use for them again soon.

[sterile lantern]

I think my bot won’t require any updates until discord api v10 is deprecated

[solemn latch]

Oh, intresting

[solemn latch]

Just dont update it until its discontinued kek

Will give you another 4 years

v6 is still something you can use technically, its up, just not maintained.

Right? I forget

[acoustic bough]

is v6 still the default?

[solemn latch]

Last I saw yeah

[solemn latch]

Yeah it is

lmao

[sterile lantern]

rofl yeah

I should be fine for a while

[past field]

will i get kicked or anything if I post Maki’s link?

[sterile lantern]

i don’t think so

[solemn latch]

I sure hope not ^-^

lol

(I asked for it, dont worry)

[dawn tendon]

@solemn latch vote isnt working

[solemn latch]

It'll probably be down for awhile longer 😦

Site devs are working on it.

[dawn tendon]

why

oh

did u guys loose sponsers or smtg

[solemn latch]

Not that I'm aware of, I'm not sure why its down, us volunteers havent been told.

[dawn tendon]

oh

okay

thanks

[harsh plover]

Hey @solemn latch is the site down?

[harsh plover]

Oh

[solemn latch]

#site-status

[harsh plover]

Sorry

Thanks

When did it go down

[glass pasture]

2.5 days ago i think

[past field]

ok lol, it’s https://maki.gg

[solemn latch]

ah, maki probably wont let you export stats for users.

You'd have to probably make a pretty complex piece of code to scrape all the data when someone checks their stats.

Its realistically probably not worth it.

[sharp geyser]

Just listen for messages and read the content of any embeds from maki that matches the stats thing if its an embed

then parse that data into json

:)

Though its really not worth doing

[past field]

dang it

[past field]

ok another question

i’m not in any way trying to do this now, i’m just curious

but bots that have dash boards on a website… how exactly is that set up????

is that a loaded answer?

[real rose]

It all comes down to a database. That is the link between the bot and the dashboard

The dashboard is a separate instance to the bot, and the dashboard shows you stuff from your bots database.

[past field]

is that something sqlite can handle as well?

[real rose]

so SQLite is serverless, meaning its not hosted in such a way that it can be remotely connected to. So unless you're hosting the dashboard and bot in the same directory, I'm going to say no.

[sharp geyser]

good beginner for people is mongodb

its a nosql database that has some pretty good libs for it

[spark flint]

why did i sit here reading mongodb as mysql for what felt like 5 minutes

[sharp geyser]

lol

[spark flint]

then reading nosql and thinking tf

[sharp geyser]

lmao

Also in case you wonder mo, nosql just means non-relational. It doesn't follow your typical db structure that a sql database like postgres or mysql follows

[sharp geyser]

Imagine not just symlinking your database file

[past field]

ah ok ok

[past field]

i’m not familiar with terminology as far as database yet but i will research and this will make more sense to me as i learn lol

[sharp geyser]

Its fine to ignore it for now

Mongodb is easier for beginners simply because it doesn't require raw sql queries

also using https://npmjs.com/package/mongoose

is helpful

[eternal osprey]

hey guys is it actually possible to set guild settings through the bot assuming it has admin perms?

like mfalevel, nsflevel, icons, banners, timeouts etc etc

this is the full list of settings that i am trying to set by bot.

[sharp geyser]

Technically yes, though I have no idea if bots ignore the 2FA requirement discord puts into place if they are set as onboarding.

[sterile lantern]

the moderator 2fa req?

[sharp geyser]

This applies to anyone with any management perms such as Manage Roles, Channels, Server etc

[sterile lantern]

yeah bots can bypass that

[sharp geyser]

Really anything that affects the server as a whole or users.

I figured as much

[sterile lantern]

otherwise they wouldnt be able to ban/kick etc

[sharp geyser]

Though discord is wacky

Can't always be sure with discord

[sterile lantern]

discord released a cool mod view

on canary at least

right click -> mod view

super useful

i think it was originally acesssible through members tab

but now you can just click on a user and view it which saves a lot of time

[sharp geyser]

I wouldn't be surprised if they have the bot owner have to 2FA enabled for banning or kicking to be possible on their bots

[sterile lantern]

lol dont you need 2fa now to create a discord app anyways

[sharp geyser]

idk

[sterile lantern]

it asks me for my 2fa code to reset a token

[sharp geyser]

I never had 2FA turned off

[sterile lantern]

so im assuming they do require it now

[sharp geyser]

That's assuming you don't already have it on

ofc it will ask for one if you have it enabled

[sterile lantern]

dont think they'll allow you to perform an action like that w/out 2fa

[sharp geyser]

idk if it will or not if you disable it tho

[sterile lantern]

idk who knows 🤷‍♂️

[sharp geyser]

well you can delete a server just fine without 2fa

why would a bot be different

[sterile lantern]

oh really??

[sharp geyser]

ofc

[sterile lantern]

damn

[sharp geyser]

all those who don't have 2fa enabled they can just delete their servers

[sterile lantern]

yeah then you probs dont need 2fa for creating bots then

[sharp geyser]

2FA is just an extra check to make sure you are the one making the request

[sterile lantern]

loooooooooooooool

[sharp geyser]

Yea I figured as much

No way would discord make a security loophole like that

[sterile lantern]

it would be funny if they required the bot owner to have nitro for animated bot pfps

[sharp geyser]

I would not be surprised

Don't give them any ideas

they listen to messages

actually idrc

I dont make bots anymore

do what you will

[sterile lantern]

yeah tbh most bots wont really have a good gif to use anyways

[sharp geyser]

No one is going to be spending the money it requires to get an animated pfp made

unless they are a recognized bot

[sterile lantern]

yeah lol

[weary warren]

Does anyone know how to make it to were when u use crime make the fines lower

[gilded plank]

Hey! We think you have our server mistaken. We do not provide support, help, or advice for any bot. You need to click on the "Discord Support Server" button on the bot's page of the bot you need support for. If there isn't a button that says "Discord Support Server" or nothing else mentioned about a support server, the server invite is invalid or you were banned from the bot's support server, then we can't help you. Sorry :(

[past field]

what do you do now 👀

[sharp geyser]

I code random shit now

Whatever comes to mind I just code it

[past field]

like what lol

what’s the latest misty masterpiece

[sharp geyser]

apis, applications, even games

[past field]

outside of discord?

[sharp geyser]

yes

[past field]

got any mobile games? 👀

[sharp geyser]

lately I have been more focused on learning C++ and other low level languages though.

I am interested in embeded programming

[sharp geyser]

not at all

I dont fuck with mobile

[past field]

oh

[sharp geyser]

too much shit to deal with

[past field]

i feel that lol

[sharp geyser]

IOS has their insanely high dev fee

and android is just terrible to begin with

[sharp geyser]

with this you have to buy a license per game you make

and get it signed

which is like 100$

They also reserve the right to unsign your app

[past field]

android apk’s are unbelievably easy to modify i’m learning

[sharp geyser]

Without warning

I'd rather make games and put them on steam or itch.io

Even though steam charges the same 100$ fee their support for devs is much better

[sharp geyser]

Oh ofc

[past field]

link me to one of your games 👀👀👀👀👀

[sharp geyser]

android is the definition of unsafe

[sharp geyser]

None publicly out yet.

Still WIP

[past field]

ohh ok i gotcha

[sharp geyser]

I'm more focused on learning my craft then making something useable rn

[past field]

that’s what i should be doing tbh

i’m too eager lol

[sharp geyser]

nothing wrong with it

[wheat mesa]

@sharp geyser you should make a game with my game engine

WaffleEngine coming soon (never)™️

[sharp geyser]

sure

I'd love to

[past field]

you ever use the canvas node module?

[sharp geyser]

yes and no

[past field]

ahh ok

that’s what i’m trying to learn more about at the moment

[wheat mesa]

reject node return to C++

(and rust)

[sharp geyser]

btw waffle

low level learning is very interesting

but some of his stuff is still confusing

[wheat mesa]

you'll get used to the fast paced style

[sharp geyser]

mainly when it gets down to him talking about the asm side of things

[past field]

i bet the stuff i say and ask about don’t even make sense half of the time LOL

[wheat mesa]

assembly is pretty easy

[sharp geyser]

I know I just have never looked into it

[wheat mesa]

it's just a matter of "know what this instruction does and what the point of it is"

[sharp geyser]

so its confusing just watching about it

[sharp geyser]

yea

[past field]

man

so i got the lobby and buttons and everything for my bingo game functioning properly and perfectly

now idk where to start in coding the actual game 😂😂😂

[sterile lantern]

if there’s enough players, run the function startGame() or something

you’d have to check based on the amount of ppl in the game which i think u already do

so from there you can have a condition to start the game, which can be its own function

then in start game you send new buttons and stuff and you go back to the collector and code there

[past field]

ok that’s a good start

i was also thinking about the bingo boards

planning to use node canvas to generate numbers on a jpg that i’m gonna have in the project folder

[sharp geyser]

@wheat mesa what exactly is a void *

I can sort of guess that it is a way of saying you don't know what the type is, but that can also cause issues when referencing stuff from memory no?

[wheat mesa]

void* is just a pointer to any data type

[sharp geyser]

int x = 5;

void *pX = &x; // will error because it doesn't know what type to try and reference

at least thats my understanding

[wheat mesa]

void* is C's solution to generics

Since C didn't have a concept of generics, it's just a way of representing a bag of some runtime data

[sharp geyser]

I see

[wheat mesa]

For example, malloc returns a void*

[sharp geyser]

I notice most of the memory allocator methods use void pointers

[wheat mesa]

The point of a void pointer is so that you can cast it to whatever you want

[sharp geyser]

I see

so

int x = 5;

void *pX = (int)&x; // will error because it doesn't know what type to try and reference

I guess there is no reason for it to do so for ints

[wheat mesa]

You know how in your vector implementation you used T*

You could replace it with void* and it would be mostly the same

(And you would no longer need the <T>)

[sharp geyser]

but say you had a struct

typedef struct {
  char name[64];
  int age;
} Person;

int main() {
  Person *pPerson = (Person*)malloc(sizeof(Person))  

  return 0;
}

[wheat mesa]

Yes

[sharp geyser]

I recall watching something like this in low level learning video

[wheat mesa]

That's very C-like though and usually you refrain from malloc in C++

[sharp geyser]

that casts person to malloc and returns the person struct after its allocated no?

[wheat mesa]

not really

malloc just hands you a pointer to a block of memory

[sharp geyser]

yea, low level learning does all his videos in C for the most part

[wheat mesa]

That's why it returns a void*

Because you can just cast that void* to whatever you want those bytes to represent

[sharp geyser]

so whats the point of casting to malloc?

[wheat mesa]

huh

malloc isn't a type

malloc is a function

[sharp geyser]

no no no

like casting the return type of malloc

[sharp geyser]

I took this off memory from low level learning. He casted Person* to the return type of malloc

I was wondering why thats a thing

[wheat mesa]

Because then you'd just have a void*

And the typechecker wouldn't like that

[sharp geyser]

so basically I am telling the compiler what the type of the data is at that address when I use malloc?