These are the things I am worried about though. Designing the entire lib in a way it is able to be used easily is my challenge here
#development
sharp geyser
earnest phoenix
These are the things I am worried about though. Designing the entire lib in a wa...
Just go wild with it, people need to understand how large and complicated Discord's API is, and making a library to wrap it is nothing easy at all; so don't worry much about the design to make it as easy as possible
If you can't figure out a design principle for some parts, just let it be, it's probably for the best
sharp geyser
Just go wild with it, people need to understand how large and complicated Discor...
Mmmm, I see. What do you think I should foucs on working on first?
Should I go straight for handling the gateway or should I build up other parts first
earnest phoenix
Always go for the important parts first, AKA handling the gateway, caching, ratelimits, etc etc
sharp geyser
Alright
I am starting from scratch again
so lets go
I kinda wanna experiment with decorators in this project
earnest phoenix
DiscordAPIError: Invalid Webhook Token
I am trying to edit my interaction with interaction.editReply({})
printing interaction gives me SelectMenuInteraction object
like what the hell my interaction just worked perfectly fine 20m ago
rancid tulip
Discord's side is having issues with those responses since 19 digit snowflakes have hitted.
earnest phoenix
ooohhh makes sense
earnest phoenix
oh right when I was doing some memey stuff I noticed it would hit 19 length
sharp geyser
yeah it seems like discord hardcoded 18 length on interactions
Wait what?
That doesn't make sense
plain talon
idk just guessing i dont work for discord
but some stuff is broken since the change
the only explanation is field length
because snowflakes dont change programatically just cuz its gotten longer
sharp geyser
Discord is aware of the situation it seems
Someone said an employee responded to the situation in the large bot dev channel in the discord api server so hopefully it gets fixed soon
plain talon
hang on
earnest phoenix
Someone said an employee responded to the situation in the large bot dev channel...
sad, I was just having fun with my bot...
plain talon
even mee6 is broke
earnest phoenix
I was taking pictures of my cool bot embeds ( as a preview on the site ) to upload it on my top.gg bot page ๐ญ and then...bam.....interactions boing..
plain talon
sharp geyser
Seems like discord wasn't prepared for the 19 digit ids after all
plain talon
Someone said an employee responded to the situation in the large bot dev channel...
nothings been said by discord in there
earnest phoenix
Seems like discord wasn't prepared for the 19 digit ids after all
the devs honestly are clowns
I always worshipped them
thought they were ahead and professional in what they do
sharp geyser
nothings been said by discord in there
It happened in a hidden channel apparently
earnest phoenix
but honestly anyone can contribute it is hilarious
sharp geyser
only certain people can see it
plain talon
It happened in a hidden channel apparently
yes i know
sharp geyser
icic
earnest phoenix
send invite
plain talon
we got a server for it anyway
sharp geyser
I forgot it
plain talon
all big bot owners/staff
earnest phoenix
let's see how many verified bots go offline due to not handling this error or catching any errors for the interactions at all
bam
I saw invite
earnest phoenix
bet
lyric mountain
the devs honestly are clowns
developer is just an alias for "professional googler"
and even that some devs cant do
earnest phoenix
and even that some devs cant do
true thats how I stopped spoonfeeding myself eventually from discord servers
and actually managed to learn smthing
if ur good at gooling ur good at coding, and thats super easy ๐
lyric mountain
like, I dont mean googling for copypaste solutions
but knowing what to google to find answers for your problem
plain talon
developer is just an alias for "professional googler"
very true
lyric mountain
that's where people fail, they think being a dev means memoing all words
sharp geyser
I google shit half the time
A lot of times I can remember what things do tho
Some people just don't get that there is no shame in googling and reading docs
plain talon
right lol
earnest phoenix
quality assurance goes brr
plain talon
thats still reading docs!!!!!!
earnest phoenix
try learn by guessing all the methods and basics
earnest phoenix
just try toWord() toSentence() maketextlow() ah damn doesnt work...gotta try more
plain talon
my biggest challenge at the beginning was just simply getting redux to work
sharp geyser
try learn by guessing all the methods and basics
How do you think I learned js?
plain talon
and understanding how it actually worked
sick agate
just try toWord() toSentence() maketextlow() ah damn doesnt work...gotta try mor...
tosentence
plain talon
same i come up with a project and dont stop till ive achieved it
surreal sage
Trying to collect some messages but .on("collect") isn't firing
var response = interaction; if (editResponse) { interaction.editReply({ embeds: [embed] }).then((msg) => { response = msg }) } else { response = interaction.reply({ embeds: [embed], ephemeral: true }).then((msg) => { response = msg }) }
const filter = (msg) => msg.author.id == interaction.user.id
const collector = interaction.channel.createMessageCollector({ filter, time: 300000 })
var collected = []
collector.on("collect", function (message) {
collected.push(message.content)
console.log("True")
if (one && collected.length == 1) {
collector.stop()
events.emit(interaction.id, { collected, response })
} else if (message.content.toLowerCase() == "done") {
collector.stop()
events.emit(interaction.id, { collected, response })
}
})```ngl, that's one of the reasons I love java and the getter/setter standard
plain talon
rn im working on a bot web music player that i have absolutely no idea how to build
just going to figure it out as i go along
lyric mountain
when I need to find all the properties of something, just type get and ctrl + space
sharp geyser
simple
lyric mountain
var -> let please
plain talon
yeah no one uses var anymore
let allows you to declare variables that are limited to the scope of a block statement, or expression on which it is used, unlike the var keyword, which declares a variable globally, or locally to an entire function regardless of block scope.
lyric mountain
*Tell me why*
var is hoisted and gives no shit about the scope
it causes weird errors that are quite hard to debug
also use === for comparison instead of ==
surreal sage
yeah came back from lua coding, I keep switchin'
lyric mountain
php also has ===
plain talon
yes but most the time when i am using it, it doesnt work
earnest phoenix
Ah yes, Discord broke their own API with their new ID snowflake growing a digit longer
lyric mountain
== is a type-casting equals
earnest phoenix
Ah yes, Discord broke their own API with their new ID snowflake growing a digit ...
indeed best quality assurance they definitely saw incoming
lyric mountain
like, it casts the right side to whatever the left side is
plain talon
that explains why then
lyric mountain
"1" == 1 is true, because 1 is casted to string before comparison
plain talon
lmao
lyric mountain
was going to ask whether collector requires the intent or partials
earnest phoenix
I'm here for help since my messagecollector isn't firing "collect"
collectors and interactions broken
nvm just interactions i think
lyric mountain
also just as a note, u don't need function (message), u cant just message =>
lyric mountain
meanwhile me, using just { /* code */ } (groovy has auto-params)
earnest phoenix
also just as a note, u don't need `function (message)`, u cant just `message =>`
yes thats amazing
lyric mountain
Also y'all didn't really help me with my question <:sobglasses:93784656646150554...
well, I barely used d.js so I'd be guessing
midnight brook
i can't reply to interactions or edit them with this error, normal MessageChannel.send() still works tho, anyone know why? didn't make any changes that should get me this error since this was working earlier
winter pasture
i can't reply to interactions or edit them with this error, normal `MessageChann...
Known issue with Discord. They broke it due to snowflakes being 19char long
midnight brook
ohh welp
quartz kindle
snowflakes became 19 characters long exactly today
they will become 20 characters long in 2090
winter pasture
Snatch a low number 19char bot ID asap ๐
sharp geyser
snowflakes became 19 characters long exactly today
And discord fumbled the bag
sharp geyser
Apparently they hard coded 18 digits
quartz kindle
y2k22
winter pasture
Wanted to get one earlier today but was busy at work
Snatched 1000011651191406692
quartz kindle
i cant believe discord just let that happen
winter pasture
Intern* engineer trying to be smart and adding validation without understanding the ID generation ๐
sick agate
lmao
quartz kindle
why would they ever need to hardcode snowflakes character lengths, when they should be storing it and manipulating it as long ints
sick agate
i mean why expect it to be persistent lenght
quartz kindle
theres no need to even think about that if you use long int everywhere
and just convert to string before sending
i also dont understand why they use iso timestamps instead of numeric
sounds like a giant waste of resources
sharp geyser
why would they ever need to hardcode snowflakes character lengths, when they sho...
that is just one of the many stories I've heard
i am not entirely sure if it is true
quartz kindle
small indie company
sharp geyser
small indie company
Lets make a company called Better Discord
Fork discord but make it bettter
dry imp
change back
quartz kindle
name it tranquility
make it hell to use
aaaahhhahgahgahaghag
sick agate
LMAO
lyric mountain
ah yes, coconut.jpg
sick agate
mason.jpg
earnest phoenix
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/697489244649816084/1000026330571747408/...
And then there's Mason
quartz kindle
discord developers chat going wild
they are planning a rave party with mason as the dj
while the relevant devs sleep
winter pasture
Dont they have any on call engineers that could escalate too? ๐
sage bobcat
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/697489244649816084/1000026330571747408/...
One message removed from a suspended account.
quartz kindle
Dont they have any on call engineers that could escalate too? ๐
apparently they are all sleeping because its 5am there
california devs
winter pasture
On call engineers should be there 24/7 tho ๐ญ
tired kiln
Imo guilded is a failed project
neat ingot
hey yall, anyone having 'interaction already replied' issues with their discord.js bots?
i've been getting reports this morning from clients that their unchanged bots have stopped working randomly
oh, guess its just a thing on their side lol
lyric mountain
see latest discord announcement
neat ingot
where? on this server?
lyric mountain
neat ingot
mucho gracias mi amigo โค๏ธ
sudden geyser
Imo guilded is a failed project
what makes you say
tired kiln
what makes you say
Barely anyone uses it, they tried to compete with discord as discord has a monopoly position currently
sudden geyser
I don't think we know how many people use it
tired kiln
Failed isnโt meant as in the app is bad, barely any marketing and i never see it come by
tired kiln
I don't think we know how many people use it
Indeed, not exactly. But Iโve asked some people and they had never heard of it
sudden geyser
In terms of "marketing", they've actually done well enough that Roblox bought it
Though I personally wouldn't use it.
tired kiln
Maybe marketing for investments, but marketing towards the actual users, barely anything ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Never saw any ads. Maybe they did do some advertising, but it apparently did not work
tired kiln
Though I personally wouldn't use it.
Neither would I, maybe some people would but they have never heard of it
sharp geyser
@earnest phoenix how does this shit code look https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/owepurelod.typescript
I don't even know if the ratelimitting works
๐
lyric mountain
Failed isnโt meant as in the app is bad, barely any marketing and i never see it...
ngl I'd love to use guilded...if they had a bot api
tired kiln
ngl I'd love to use guilded...if they had a bot api
One of the many reasons why it hasnโt become as popular as it couldโve become
slender wagon
client.on('message', async (message) => {
is not working for me for some reason
has there been an update i am not aware of
slender wagon
wtf
earnest phoenix
<@456226577798135808> how does this shit code look https://www.toptal.com/develo...
Ignoring the formatting, it's not bad, but you should definitely use actual private properties and methods using the # modifier on the classes instead of the private keyword, because the ones labeled with the private keyword doesn't actually become private on the JavaScript side
sharp geyser
Ignoring the formatting, it's not bad, but you should definitely use actual priv...
Wait what
example please?
earnest phoenix
And also you seem to be using template strings without doing any interpolation at some parts
sharp geyser
And also you seem to be using template strings without doing any interpolation a...
github copilot
I turned it off
earnest phoenix
Example of the # modifier?
sharp geyser
Example of the `#` modifier?
yes never heard of it before
earnest phoenix
yes never heard of it before
slender wagon
still not working for some reason
sharp geyser
Do you have the right intents enabled
slender wagon
yeah i enabled them all
sharp geyser
Are you trying to look for messages in a DM channel?
sharp geyser
If so you need to enable the appropriate partial
slender wagon
i shall also define em all here?
sharp geyser
define all the intents you want there yes
sharp geyser
https://v8.dev/features/class-fields#private-class-fields
Never knew this was a thing
earnest phoenix
And try to update to v14 when possible
red jolt
Hello. I have a problem with my bot. I want to run a slash command but the bot code says missing access. I gave every single permission in every single way to my bot and reinvited it many times and changed the token too but it still says it doesn't have access to use slash commands. Any idea how to fix it?
earnest phoenix
Never knew this was a thing
It's kinda new although (not that new), it's only available since Node.js v16 (excluding the non-LTS releases)
slender wagon
@sharp geyser ty got it to work
earnest phoenix
Hello. I have a problem with my bot. I want to run a slash command but the bot c...
You need to re-invite the bot using the applications.commands scope
sharp geyser
Hello. I have a problem with my bot. I want to run a slash command but the bot c...
When inviting the bot make sure you have the application.commands scope in the invite url
earnest phoenix
https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/vuyotezesi.typescript like this?
Yes, but I would recommend removing the _ prefix from them, unnecessary IMO
sharp geyser
Yes, but I would recommend removing the `_` prefix from them, unnecessary IMO
Also now using prettier so the format is better
Don't remember how to use eslint else I would
earnest phoenix
Don't remember how to use eslint else I would
You just install ESLint and run npm init @eslint/config in your project directory to create an ESLint config depending on the options you select
And finally run eslint . to lint your entire codebase
sharp geyser
do I have to install eslint package side
red jolt
I reinvited the bot gave permission again but the bot is just thinking when running a slash command and got the same error again.
sharp geyser
or can I do it globally?
earnest phoenix
You can do it globally
sharp geyser
I reinvited the bot gave permission again but the bot is just thinking when runn...
Known issue
discord has yet to fix interactions right now forgot to mention
sharp geyser
You can do it globally
ty qt
pine nova
sharp geyser
@earnest phoenix is there a better way to define the client without it showing up in the logs if someone were to console log the shard https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/oyiqopocej.typescript
Also eslint fixed my code
๐
Actually I just realized something
If I go this route I wanna set writable and configurable to false since I never wanna change what client is after it is set
unless I read the docs for defineProperty wrong
earnest phoenix
is discord still broken
quartz kindle
yes
earnest phoenix
ping me when fixed
sharp geyser
set it to enumerable:false
it is false by default no?
sharp geyser
ping me when fixed
Now would be the perfect time for your guys 'traditional' commands
just don't fuck with anything relying on webhooks
and u good
quartz kindle
it is false by default no?
i believe when you set properties its false by default yes, but when you use regular objects its always true by default
sharp geyser
fack
also should I set configurable and writeable to false as well?
I don't really wanna change what client is after it is set
quartz kindle
sure
earnest phoenix
Now would be the perfect time for your guys 'traditional' commands
they do work doe
I wouldn't consider interactions traditional
sharp geyser
You misread what I said entirely
earnest phoenix
Right interactions use webhooks
earnest phoenix
If I go down with traditional commands so does everyone else
It'll be fun to see all bots rely on slash commands that aren't user friendly enough
why would you have slash command one after another lol imagine scrolling from top to bottom
Imagine this with 50 bots u get what I mean, and I don't wanna scroll down the bot icon list
sharp geyser
Honestly discord should enforce slash commands more
there is no reason for message based commands anymore
sharp geyser
why would you have slash command one after another lol imagine scrolling from to...
This typically isn't an issue
sharp geyser
The only way it would be an issue is if multiple bots have tthe same command names
sudden geyser
why would you have slash command one after another lol imagine scrolling from to...
Do you not type the command name after the / or something?
earnest phoenix
hell no
sharp geyser
but the commands get split between each bot in the view unless you're looking for a specific command
earnest phoenix
how am I even supposed to get an overview on all commands and memorize them if I literally have to scroll up and down and do this for every bot
sharp geyser
don't complain about a UI issue if you're using it wrong
sudden geyser
I don't see why you wouldn't
earnest phoenix
I'm not gonna use it because it is already retarded
sudden geyser
Given you need to with traditional commands
sharp geyser
you're using it wrong
earnest phoenix
No
Im not gonna waste my time scrolling down to find commands or memorizing them all
sudden geyser
Then how would you find the command traditionally?
sharp geyser
typing just / will give you an overview of all commands in the guild but if you look to the left oh wow look at that, there is a navbar of bot images corresponding to those bots commands
earnest phoenix
go find a way to spare the scrolling while implementing subcategories as folders and having those in a row
earnest phoenix
because the UI is retarded, again
sharp geyser
It is very simple
sharp geyser
you and itsokaybae love complaining
๐
Im not having another "optimized" argument with you
good bye
sudden geyser
I personally don't see what's wrong with the UI nor how traditional commands solve the issue you have with it.
earnest phoenix
You can neither add emotes to the UI nor can you scale the UI
nor do you have subfolders but instead have every single command listed up which is retarded
sudden geyser
define subfolder
sharp geyser
I personally don't see what's wrong with the UI nor how traditional commands sol...
right
earnest phoenix
define subfolder
if there's a section for gaming, you click on the folder and you will be visible to gaming commands only
sharp geyser
cringe
earnest phoenix
You can do this with any folder
sudden geyser
ah
earnest phoenix
It gives you more overview
sudden geyser
So just categorization
sharp geyser
I see no reason for something that indepth
earnest phoenix
Which is more powerful than having to read all the commands
earnest phoenix
I see no reason for something that indepth
Stop the trolling
Don't make me write a HTML example to illustrate this
We can make a poll and see which version people prefer
You're annoying as fuck
sharp geyser
All your complaining is more annoying
sudden geyser
"Oh no, someone has a different opinion than me!"
sharp geyser
Either way, you say yyou want it to be optimized, yet you are listing things that would be harder to manage
They'd have to change the api to do everything you said
which would make it more annoying to manage slash command groups
earnest phoenix
"Stop using traditional commands, all you do is complaining! There are no issues when it comes to slash commands!"
sharp geyser
I never said there was no issues
earnest phoenix
nah I'm done arguing with trolls
sudden geyser
No, you're just being overtly aggressive for no rational reason.
sharp geyser
^
sudden geyser
I can imagine categories being useful (though I'd prefer to call them tags).
earnest phoenix
I can imagine categories being useful (though I'd prefer to call them tags).
He's saying this is an excuse
sudden geyser
But outside of that, I think the current UI is fine.
earnest phoenix
is it really
sharp geyser
I do as well
sudden geyser
that's their opinion.
earnest phoenix
are you implying the subfolder suggestion is any worse
sharp geyser
There is fundamentally nothing wrong with the UI
it can ofc be improved which we already said they had in the roadmap
earnest phoenix
Fundamentals aren't the only thing that matter to convince people
As you say "it's all about opinions"
Do acknowledge this and stop the trolling
sharp geyser
bro I am not trying to convince anyone
It is my opinion
Idc if you agree to it or not
sudden geyser
There's no "fundamentals" to this. There's only preference and what someone finds more intuitive.
sharp geyser
no one is forcing yyou
earnest phoenix
You are literally just using the UI wrong
You are arguing against "my opinion"
earnest phoenix
Okay so what did I just quote
earnest phoenix
I was stating mine and you started bitching
No
You were saying my opinion is invalid
quartz kindle
guys, any suggestions for an uptime/status page like those discord and cloudflare use? preferably free
earnest phoenix
Retarded as fuck
sharp geyser
Wow you really hurt mmy feelings ๐
earnest phoenix
@zinc fable @wet dove can you stop this troll
sharp geyser
pings a mod after calling someone retarded makes sense
you're the only one being toxic here
earnest phoenix
yeah because I am confident in the real issue that caused the trigger in first place and thus has justification for my lil toxicity
sudden geyser
x to doubt
earnest phoenix
you're the only one being toxic here
Because you're a retard
But you don't seem to acknowledge it
sharp geyser
God you must think the world revolves around you huh?
wet dove
Because you're a retard
lets not use that word
earnest phoenix
lets not use that word
then stop this troll
sharp geyser
Brought up like a spoiled brat
wet dove
he isnt trolling?
sharp geyser
stating opinion != trolling
earnest phoenix
then you will get my core message
earnest phoenix
I don't mind if he doesn't seem to stop
sharp geyser
hey lets be nice
Sorry for responding after being called a retard thrice now
I will stop now
earnest phoenix
then do it
wet dove
this channel is for helping people out, and giving opinions
earnest phoenix
this channel is for helping people out, and giving opinions
are opinions invalid?
pale vessel
History repeats itself
earnest phoenix
no but you seem to think only yours are valid
neither of ours is valid but considered an opinion you however are enforcing invalidity over mine, know your shit
quartz kindle
uvuvwevwevwe onyetenyevwe ugwemubwem ossas
earnest phoenix
Classic
sudden geyser
abalabalhaha
quartz kindle
eris
sudden geyser
yes!
earnest phoenix
We chat a lot like this here, nothing uncommon
sharp geyser
eris is a discord lib
quartz kindle
this is my channel so i can do whayever i want here :^)
earnest phoenix
So I can just chat in support and say the same or what
earnest phoenix
the fuck
earnest phoenix
yeah so I can talk all day about anime in this channel I guess
pale vessel
Sure
earnest phoenix
general 3 huh
sharp geyser
we do
earnest phoenix
ok
sudden geyser
or you could just read the channel topic
wet dove
yeah so I can talk all day about anime in this channel I guess
not really, here we discuss about dev things
earnest phoenix
or you could just read the channel topic
wow this chat is so development related!
sudden geyser
yeah, eris is a discord library
earnest phoenix
not really, here we discuss about dev things
so why is this off topic as soon as the argument dropped
wet dove
tbh lets keep this channel a bit on topic
sharp geyser
tbh lets keep this channel a bit on topic
it litterally was tho
sharp geyser
sorry for people wasting ur time taf
earnest phoenix
<@456226577798135808> btw i read ur message on top, dont mini mod ty
Is it against the rules or what
sudden geyser
on to other news, has discord.py arisen from its grave yet
wet dove
Is it against the rules or what
yes it is, read the rules #rules-and-info
sharp geyser
it has a while ago
sudden geyser
or is it still in development
earnest phoenix
yes it is, read the rules <#280067058417401856>
okay and being off topic is as well
wet dove
okay and being off topic is as well
they aren't being off-topic
sharp geyser
my god shut up
earnest phoenix
All of them
sharp geyser
No one cares
wet dove
please stop arguing
sharp geyser
we are trying to talk about dev stuff now
earnest phoenix
uvuvwevwevwe onyetenyevwe ugwemubwem ossas
Yeah
wheat mesa
๐ซข๐ฟ
wet dove
-m @earnest phoenix
gilded plankBOT
Kolonyaa#6419 was successfully muted
sudden geyser
oh thank god
sharp geyser
Now then
earnest phoenix
on to other news, has discord.py arisen from its grave yet
Barely, mostly still in the grave, half-way through coming out I guess
sharp geyser
About my discord lib, I so far have covered making heartbeats and invalid sessions and reconnecting, etc. As far as I know I only have to cover handling errors now, but I am still curious is there anything I am missing?
earnest phoenix
It has implemented some of the new important features, but most of them are still unimplemented
earnest phoenix
About my discord lib, I so far have covered making heartbeats and invalid sessio...
Well, handling ratelimits is another thing
quartz kindle
they finally published the issue on discordstatus
quartz kindle
what are you trying to test?
sharp geyser
ratelimitting
private _send(data: {
op: number;
d: any;
s?: null | number;
t?: string | null;
}) {
if (!this.#connection)
throw new SocketError('No socket connection found.');
let timer = this.#internal.ratelimit.time;
if (!timer) {
timer = this.#internal.ratelimit.time = setTimeout(() => {
this.#internal.ratelimit.time = null;
}, 6000);
this.#internal.ratelimit.until = Date.now();
}
if (
--this.#internal.ratelimit.left <= 0 &&
![1, 2, 6].includes(data.op)
) {
const error = new SocketError('Socket was hit with a ratelimit');
error.retry_after = this.#internal.ratelimit.until;
return Promise.reject(error);
}
// handle encoding later
this.#connection.send(JSON.stringify(data));
return Promise.resolve();
}
Lovely code
sharp geyser
I can easily remove the interval on my set interval when sending a heartbeat
sharp geyser
you can lower the limit and spam until that limit
ye I set it to 5
quartz kindle
no, but you need to have an id document
sharp geyser
no, but you need to have an id document
So it is uh safe to assume it didn't work
My console got spammed with Sending new Heartbeat...
probably rate limited on discord's end
quartz kindle
lel
sharp geyser
#send(data: {
op: number;
d: any;
s?: null | number;
t?: string | null;
}) {
if (!this.#connection)
throw new SocketError('No socket connection found.');
let timer = this.#internal.ratelimit.time;
if (!timer) {
timer = this.#internal.ratelimit.time = setTimeout(() => {
this.#internal.ratelimit.time = null;
}, 6000);
this.#internal.ratelimit.until = Date.now();
}
if (
--this.#internal.ratelimit.left <= 0 &&
![1, 2, 6].includes(data.op)
) {
const error = new SocketError('Socket was hit with a ratelimit');
error.retry_after = this.#internal.ratelimit.until;
return Promise.reject(error);
}
// handle encoding later
this.#connection.send(JSON.stringify(data));
return Promise.resolve();
}
tf am I doing wrong
quartz kindle
where do you set ratelimit.left? where do yoi decrease it? why is ratelimit.until the current date and not the date + timer?
sharp geyser
where do you set ratelimit.left? where do yoi decrease it? why is ratelimit.unti...
I decrease it in the if statement
constructor(id: number, client: any) {
super();
this.#internal = {
ratelimit: {
left: 5,
time: null,
until: 0,
},
lastAck: null,
lastHeartbeat: null,
readyAt: null,
sequence: null,
sessionId: null,
heartbeatInterval: null,
heartbeatTimeout: null,
};
this.#connection = null;
Object.defineProperty(this, 'client', {
value: client,
enumerable: true,
configurable: false,
writable: false,
});
}
here is where I set it
and can you add a setTimeout to a Date.now()?
quartz kindle
Date.now() + the same number yiu put in the timeout
sharp geyser
alright
but yea, I set it there and I decrease this.#internal.ratelimit.left in the second if statement
if(--this.#internal.ratetlimit.left <= 0 && ![1,2,6].includes(data.op){...}
quartz kindle
ah didnt notice the --
sharp geyser
yea hard to see
I don't see why this shouldn't work though
It decreases the amount left
and I am not doing anything where the op is one of those 3
quartz kindle
did you set left back to 5 in the timer?
sharp geyser
ah no
quartz kindle
discord said they found the issue and are working on a fix
base64 decoding the token was throwing an exception due to incorrect padding, related to the snowflake rollover
sharp geyser
Man it takes abnormally long to send my first heartbeat
Also it still is spamming the api
quartz kindle
how long? its normal for first heartbeat to take 10-40 seconds
quartz kindle
assuming you are using the jitter according to the api
sharp geyser
Received Hello. First heartbeat in 33254ms. Heartbeat interval = 41250ms
this is what it said
33s
quartz kindle
if you copied the code from my lib then it should be correct
its what the docs say to do
sharp geyser
Yea
I am still wondering why it isn't stopping the sending and telling the user they are rate limited tho
๐
quartz kindle
first heartbeat should be sent after interval * random float
sharp geyser
#send(data: { op: number; d: any; s?: null | number; t?: string | null }) {
if (!this.#connection)
throw new SocketError('No socket connection found.');
let timer = this.#internal.ratelimit.time;
if (!timer) {
timer = this.#internal.ratelimit.time = setTimeout(() => {
this.#internal.ratelimit.time = null;
}, 6000);
this.#internal.ratelimit.until = Date.now() + 60000;
this.#internal.ratelimit.left = 5;
}
if (
--this.#internal.ratelimit.left <= 0 &&
![1, 2, 6].includes(data.op)
) {
const error = new SocketError('Socket was hit with a ratelimit');
error.retry_after = this.#internal.ratelimit.until;
return Promise.reject(error);
}
// handle encoding later
this.#connection.send(JSON.stringify(data));
return Promise.resolve();
}
this is my updated code
I reset left back to 5
Is there anything else I am missing
or is my if statement's logic just wrong
quartz kindle
left = 5 should be inside the timer
not outside
you want to reset it after the timer passes
also you added 60000 to until, not 6000
sharp geyser
you want to reset it after the timer passes
Wait what isnt that what I am doing?
or do you mean inside the set timeout
quartz kindle
yes?
nocturne dagger
What is the best way to do this
export default function getToken(id) {
//encrypt the "id" with a secret key (can be decoded with secret key as well)
return //encryped thing here
}
I want to encrypt a Discord ID to a "token"
and then be able to send it back into another function to get decoded, does anyone know of any tools already for this? I tried crpyot-js but it was adding some randomness to it
sharp geyser
What kind of encoding are you looking to do?
You can turn it into a base64 string
or you can encrypt it with the crypto module iirc
quartz kindle
if you want encryption, you can use something like aes cypher
quartz kindle
but if youre sending via https its redundant because https is already encrypted
sharp geyser
wait tim
if (
--this.#internal.ratelimit.left <= 0 &&
![1, 2, 6].includes(data.op)
)
doesn't this tell it that 1,2,6 shouldn't be rate limited?
quartz kindle
yes
sharp geyser
No wonder the fucking thing isn't working
I am testing the rate limit with sending a heartbeat
heartbeat is ignored by the rate limit
or am I reading this wrong
Heartbeat's opcode is 1 correct?
sharp geyser
Ima just remove heartbeat from the array of opcodes
Received Hello. First heartbeat in 10913ms. Heartbeat interval = 41250ms
Sending new Identify Request.
{
v: 10,
user_settings: {},
user: {
verified: true,
username: 'Dungeon',
mfa_enabled: true,
id: '997706195760578621',
flags: 0,
email: null,
discriminator: '0637',
bot: true,
avatar: null
},
session_type: 'normal',
session_id: 'a62a6817561d74814c967845f58caedf',
relationships: [],
private_channels: [],
presences: [],
guilds: [ { unavailable: true, id: '957867801119449109' } ],
guild_join_requests: [],
geo_ordered_rtc_regions: [ 'seattle', 'santa-clara', 'us-west', 'us-south', 'us-central' ],
auth_session_id_hash: '4E20fsvcJ3q0tRFNFB3WYBbg3gjgwpgn0jaX+IX4B2I=',
application: { id: '997706195760578621', flags: 2654208 },
_trace: [
'["gateway-prd-main-8m4c",{"micros":57258,"calls":["discord-sessions-green-prd-2-53",{"micros":54790,"calls"
:["start_session",{"micros":47063,"calls":["discord-api-7dcd4c9d86-hxclx",{"micros":41770,"calls":["get_user",{"
micros":8584},"add_authorized_ip",{"micros":1725},"get_guilds",{"micros":4112},"coros_wait",{"micros":1}]}]},"gu
ilds_connect",{"micros":2,"calls":[]},"presence_connect",{"micros":6385,"calls":[]}]}]}]'
]
}
Ready event fired
Sending new Heartbeat...
Sending new Heartbeat...
Sending new Heartbeat...
C:\Users\dyeaa\Documents\github\misty\typescript\tranquility\dist\ws\WebsocketShard.js:54
const error = new util_1.SocketError('Socket was hit with a ratelimit');
^
SocketError: Socket was hit with a ratelimit
at #send (C:\Users\dyeaa\Documents\github\misty\typescript\tranquility\dist\ws\WebsocketShard.js:54:27)
at Timeout._onTimeout (C:\Users\dyeaa\Documents\github\misty\typescript\tranquility\dist\ws\WebsocketShard.j
s:131:35)
at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:564:17)
at process.processTimers (node:internal/timers:507:7) {
retry_after: 1658506461443
}
Well no shit
Tim I am just fucking braindead apparently
quartz kindle
lel
lyric mountain
could anyone help me find better fonts to use with this?
Current:
- name -> Arial
- attributes & cost -> Staatliches
- description -> Hammersmith One
sharp geyser
The bottom is very hard to read
sharp geyser
use the same font you did for the name
lyric mountain
arial?
quartz kindle
aerial
lyric mountain
lemme see
sharp geyser
tim is it just me or does it seem like this is stopping before it reaches 5 tries
Sending new Heartbeat...
Sending new Heartbeat...
Sending new Heartbeat...
C:\Users\dyeaa\Documents\github\misty\typescript\tranquility\dist\ws\WebsocketShard.js:54
const error = new util_1.SocketError('Socket was hit with a ratelimit');
^
SocketError: Socket was hit with a ratelimit
at #send (C:\Users\dyeaa\Documents\github\misty\typescript\tranquility\dist\ws\WebsocketShard.js:54:27)
at Timeout._onTimeout (C:\Users\dyeaa\Documents\github\misty\typescript\tranquility\dist\ws\WebsocketShard.j
s:131:35)
at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:564:17)
at process.processTimers (node:internal/timers:507:7) {
retry_after: 1658506461443
}
Tries sending 3 and stops on the 4th
royal portal
because ratelimit
sharp geyser
Not like it really matters tbh as long as they don't hit the ratelimit
sharp geyser
because ratelimit
Yes I know it is rate limitting
but they should have 5 tries not 4
quartz kindle
identify is likely also being counted
lyric mountain
arial is too big
sharp geyser
Identify shouldn't be counted
lyric mountain
I lose about 10 characters or so
sharp geyser
should it?
quartz kindle
you are reducing the left value before checking the op type, so everything is counted
lyric mountain
lemme try reducing it by 1px and making it bold
quartz kindle
depends which limit you want to enforce
if youre gonna go for the official limit, it has to be counted yes
sharp geyser
Ima stick to discord's recommendations as much as possible
quartz kindle
if you make your limit a bit smaller, you can afford to not count them
sharp geyser
I was only thinking it didn't have to be counted cause you only really ever Identify once per session
quartz kindle
i made my limit a bit smaller so that there will always be some room reserved for important stuff
sharp geyser
mmm well now you are making a valid point here
quartz kindle
for example if you send 120 requests and then you need to send a heartbeat before the rate limit resets
the heartbeat will be rate limited
quartz kindle
the api limit is 120 per 60s lol
sharp geyser
Wait really
quartz kindle
plus an adicional limit for presence updates
sharp geyser
plus an adicional limit for presence updates
where can I find the info on rate limits
cause I only see stuff about the rest api
not any gateway rate limits
quartz kindle
on the gateway page
sharp geyser
I missed that part completely apparently
or I just don't remember reading it
well ty tim
I almost made itt so the spam the api no matter what
kek
quartz kindle
xD
topaz blaze
lyric mountain
open-sans looks fine
at least more readable than hammersmith
maybe I could use the bold variant but idk
lyric mountain
?
lyric mountain
a
lyric mountain
I'm currently migrating my cards to the new system
but adjusting font size to be visible while allowing enough characters is quite hard
especially when the battlefield is huge
sharp geyser
battlefield?
sharp geyser
What are you making this on?
sharp geyser
So it is turn based?
lyric mountain
yep
sharp geyser
okay good
lyric mountain
works just like heartstone or yugioh
sharp geyser
that'd be a pain otherwise
lyric mountain
I'm actually rewriting it, yk, some sanitization here and there
sharp geyser
I am planning on making cards just for visual display
Make it easier to display info on the character
I am going for a dungeon dive rpg bot
lyric mountain
nice
lyric mountain
don't forget to add a global 10k request limit for all operations
sharp geyser
wait what
lyric mountain
cloudflare limit
don't remember the exact timeframe
but there's a global 10k request limit before u get ratelimited for a day
near stratus
that seems like a lot
sharp geyser
Is that rest api only or is it also included in the gateway operations
lyric mountain
idk
sharp geyser
It seems only rest api
receiving status codes of 401, 403, or 429 should be counted to the global ratet limit
IP addresses that make too many invalid HTTP requests are automatically and temporarily restricted from accessing the Discord API. Currently, this limit is 10,000 per 10 minutes. An invalid request is one that results in 401, 403, or 429 statuses.
All applications should make reasonable attempts to avoid making invalid requests. For example:
401 responses are avoided by providing a valid token in the authorization header when required and by stopping further requests after a token becomes invalid
403 responses are avoided by inspecting role or channel permissions and by not making requests that are restricted by such permissions
429 responses are avoided by inspecting the rate limit headers documented above and by not making requests on exhausted buckets until after they have reset. 429 errors returned with X-RateLimit-Scope: shared are not counted against you.
Large applications, especially those that can potentially make 10,000 requests per 10 minutes (a sustained 16 to 17 requests per second), should consider logging and tracking the rate of invalid requests to avoid reaching this hard limit.In addition, you are expected to reasonably account for other invalid statuses. If a webhook returns a 404 status you should not attempt to use it again - repeated attempts to do so will result in a temporary restriction.
I have yet to touch the rest api so no need to worry about that yet
but I will keep it in mind
torn topaz
Is there a good way to to make a vote streak system for daily votes? I don't know where the voter is so idk how to properly check if a vote happened on the next day or if it's still the same day ๐ (since you could vote 2x a day but it shouldn't count towards streak) but maybe it's easier to just count it ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
sharp geyser
store votes for the user in a db
iirc you can only vote every 24h anyway
or is it 12 (can someone confirm?)
sharp geyser
Well if you want it to be a daily streak you gotta track votes
2 votes would be 1 days worth but that just sounds dumb way of doing it
lyric mountain
also remember to leave some window for the voter
like, if track streaks on 12-hour basis, allow up to 12 hours as a window
so like```
12 - vote (1)
24 - vote (2)
36 - novote (2)
38 - vote (3)
50 - vote (4)
...
tho it's unnecessary if u track daily votes
sharp geyser
Doesn't that require them to vote exactly on time?
lyric mountain
Doesn't that require them to vote exactly on time?
that's why I said to leave a window
sharp geyser
Ah
torn topaz
tbh I think it's cleaner if I just count both votes to the streak
sharp geyser
Didn't see that part my bad
lyric mountain
like, u can vote twice on a day, so if u make only 1 vote, the streak is broken
torn topaz
I think I'm gonna count every vote and add +1 to the streak for each vote. And I'll give people 36 hours before their streak breaks. That's more chill ๐
lyric mountain
36 is too much no?
torn topaz
Well, If I voted in the morning today and want to vote tomorrow in the evening the streak will be lost
so I think I'm even gonna do 48 hours to be on the safe side
ofc people could skip a day then but I don't mind
craggy pine
Is the goal with this just a daily vote tracker basically? Or do the individual votes including if both are done in the same day count?
torn topaz
My original plan was to make it a daily tracker but I couldn't come up with a great way so I'll just count both votes. I think that's fine too.
fossil bronze
Can sharded bots still .fetch channels and dm channels?
sharp geyser
you should be able to iirc
ancient nova
what kinda songs do yal like
sharp geyser
unrelated
ancient nova
sharp geyser
goodbye
ancient nova
fossil bronze
you should be able to iirc
Thank you โค๏ธ It's been really hard to get advice about this sharding process
ancient nova
I used to have 16 shards on my old bot with only 200 servers 
ancient nova
don't really kno someone told me to shard for better performance n I kinda done a lil too much
quartz kindle
Thank you โค๏ธ It's been really hard to get advice about this sharding process
the rest api is independent from sharding
you can fetch anything from anywhere
ancient nova
Tim what kinda songs do u listne to?
sharp geyser
I don't remember the recommended limit for sharding but I think it is like 1500-2500
ancient nova
I'm curious
sharp geyser
1 shard per 1500-2500 servers
wheat mesa
Yeah
quartz kindle
lately ive been listening to a synthwave radio channel on youtube
sharp geyser
That is if you're using djs
sharp geyser
you mightt be able to do a bit more with eris
wheat mesa
Youโre forced to shard at 2500
fossil bronze
Im only at 2600 servers but I have maxed out a single CPU thread
ancient nova
forced?
wheat mesa
Yes
sharp geyser
Yes
wheat mesa
The API forces you to open more gateway connections at 2500 guilds
quartz kindle
Im only at 2600 servers but I have maxed out a single CPU thread
are you doing music?
ancient nova
The API forces you to open more gateway connections at 2500 guilds
ic
fossil bronze
Well with the internal sharding feature you don't really have to do anything
sharp geyser
Isn't eris a better option when sharding for larger bots tho?
ancient nova
good to know although i doubt my bot will ever even reach 1k at the rate it's growing
it's at 68 I think rn
wheat mesa
Mine is at like 35 because I donโt work on it
quartz kindle
im using internal sharding with 10k guilds and my cpu usage is pretty low
sharp geyser
Mine is at 1 cause I am not done with it
fossil bronze
are you doing music?
Ah no. just game stuff / image creation/ video/gif creation
sharp geyser
im using internal sharding with 10k guilds and my cpu usage is pretty low
popular bot eh
sharp geyser
What is the upload limit for bots?
quartz kindle
8mb
sharp geyser
Is it normal user limit or nitro
quartz kindle
normal
sharp geyser
sadge
ancient nova
lol will I also have to create separate dbs for each shard cuz I doubt the bot will be happy with 10k servers interacting with 1 enmap 
sharp geyser
bots should have nitro perks ngl
fossil bronze
Well I think game bots in general are going to be demanding because of all the spam compared to say, a moderation/utility bot
quartz kindle
lol will I also have to create separate dbs for each shard cuz I doubt the bot w...
you cant do that
ancient nova
ofc I can
sharp geyser
No
quartz kindle
no you cant
stuck dawn
how can i know what is causing this error?
stuck dawn
how can i know what is causing this error?
that pathname thing doesn't exist on my files..
ancient nova
alr
sharp geyser
how can i know what is causing this error?
I assume you are using react-router-dom?
stuck dawn
yes
stuck dawn
i don't think so
quartz kindle
ofc I can
sharding is calculated based on guild ids and the number of shards. when you change the numer of shards, all guilds will be recalculated and will not be in the same shards anymore
sharp geyser
i don't think so
Show your routes setup
ancient nova
sharding is calculated based on guild ids and the number of shards. when you cha...
oh I thought guilds stick to their shards
quartz kindle
nop
ancient nova
sharp geyser
So what happens if a shard goes down
do those guilds in the previous shard move to a new one?
quartz kindle
no
quartz kindle
those guilds will be down
ancient nova
I got even more confused
sharp geyser
It'd have to wait till the shard is reconnected
ancient nova
then they do stick to their shard?
fossil bronze
The sharding manager auto-restarts the shards right?
sharp geyser
and or re-identified
sharp geyser
then they do stick to their shard?
once started they do iirc
ancient nova
sharp geyser
but if you change the number of shards you have they get recalculated like time said
quartz kindle
if you have 2 shards with 500 guilds each, if one goes down then those 500 from that shard will be down, until that shard reconnects
if you change to 3 shards, then you have 3 x ~ 330 guilds
so some guilds that were on shards 1 and 2 are now on shard 3
also some that were on shard 2 can go to shard 1, and vice versa
also yoi dont need to connect all shards, and you can use different total shards at the same time
but you will get duplicated guilds if you do that
you can also create a shard that only has 1 guild in it
and guess which guild is it from its id
so its possible to chose which guild
i do that for testing, for example i make a shard that only has my guild in it, so its super fast to connect
fossil bronze
It's kinda sad how in the beginning i was taught to never use fetch and only cache.get
quartz kindle
and i dont need a test bot token
fossil bronze
But fetch also checks cache..?
quartz kindle
But fetch also checks cache..?
yep
sharp geyser
by default yes
you can use force which makes it skip cache checking and goes straight for the api
fossil bronze
Soo... It's unfortunate they taught it that way
sharp geyser
Now it is obsolete to get from cache directly tbh
fetch is better as it will check cache first and if it doesn't exist it will go to the api to fetch
quartz kindle
the lib was much more cached before
caching is now less connected to the lib, so its easier to control
sharp geyser
didn't they used to force cache members and such?
so members were always cached no matter what
quartz kindle
they had an option to fetch all members
sharp geyser
ah right
fossil bronze
Yeah ... ill say something next time I see a new person taught to use cache.get
Funny when I used eris, I always used fetch. But then for d.js, everyone said use cache.get, like fetch wasn't even an option
quartz kindle
djs community is a mess
too many people in there, so depending on whos there at the time you will get different answers
fossil bronze
Yeah...
quartz kindle
sometimes from noobs who think they know it all
fossil bronze
But support is soo much better than eris still
quartz kindle
yes djs is much bigger than any other js lib
fossil bronze
But they did add examples for interaction stuff to the eris github
quartz kindle
is abal still the sole dev of eris or does he have a team now?
fossil bronze
Even though I was told "no, you don't get any examples. examples are for beginners, and eris is not for beginners"
idk
quartz kindle
afaik djs is the only lib maintained by a full team
all other libs are done by sole developers
quartz kindle
yeah they tend to overcomplicate stuff
sharp geyser
all other libs are done by sole developers
me crying rn
fossil bronze
but when I couldn't even get an example for how to make buttons, I switched
sharp geyser
how to make buttons in eris?
fossil bronze
There's examples on the github now
stuck dawn
Show your routes setup
this?
earnest phoenix
what can we set as spam parameters .ie how many messages in how much time can be considered as spam ??
quartz kindle
what can we set as spam parameters .ie how many messages in how much time can be...
by default, discord does not allow more than 5 messages per 5 seconds per channel
sharp geyser
by default, discord does not allow more than 5 messages per 5 seconds per channe...
Wait really?
Oh wait nevermind
That's per user
Thought you were talking about a global limit
I was fixing to question life
stable eagle
Wait really?
Yes, but for bigger bots with a high server count, you can apply for a higher ratelimit
sharp geyser
He's talking about user spam
wheat mesa
Thatโs a discord limit
I donโt believe your bot is able to bypass that even with higher ratelimits
However interactions are a solution!!
fossil bronze
Okay so I have changed the DM functions to fetch
I've set the server count to broadcasteval
Other than the db, that should be it?
craggy pine
My original plan was to make it a daily tracker but I couldn't come up with a gr...
When they first vote store the time and date. Then compare it the next time they vote. If its after a day but not after two then its a daily vote and reset time. If its on the same day its not considered a daily vote and doesnโt need to be reset for the time.
fossil bronze
Anyone ran (real) sharded bot with sqlite?
quartz kindle
i use sqlite on 10k guilds, but i use internal sharding
you shouldnt have any issues running it with the sharding manager
just enable wal mode
and use better-sqlite3
sharp geyser
just enable wal mode
wal mode?
pale vessel
WSL mode m8
quartz kindle
wal mode?
write ahead logging
makes writes faster by writing to a separate append-only file instead of the main db file, and also frees the main db file for concurrent reads
boreal iron
@quartz kindle #discord-news message
Has that been your calculation?
I donโt remember any more
molten halo
Why i use app.delete() it still shows the page
quartz kindle
Has that been your calculation?
the day when it becomes 19 chars?
boreal iron
Didnโt we bet when you say based on your math skills? 
quartz kindle
sharp geyser
Didn't he say it would be the 22nd?
quartz kindle
Good you never answered
gibe mi mรดnoei
boreal iron
Tf
sharp geyser
We ate it
quartz kindle
with pepperonis and pepsi
wooden ember
so earlyer i had an idea, was messing about with fan speeds on my server and had the watch sensors comand on a terminal. then I thought that if I ran sensors with child_prossess and sent the stdout to discord for a handy host info command to check on my server when im away however it just spits out a bunch of numbers and not actual text when stdout is logged to console. how to i convert the output from raw data to and actual readable format?
red jolt
Uh guys can somebody help me how to create a normal invite link. And the applications command is necesarry and should I only create 1 or more redirect?
quartz kindle
so earlyer i had an idea, was messing about with fan speeds on my server and had...
you can set the stream encoding to utf8
or use .toString() on the data packets
sharp geyser
stdout
quartz kindle
Uh guys can somebody help me how to create a normal invite link. And the applica...
the discord dashboard has an invite generator
quartz kindle
what does stdout stand for tim
std stands for standard, out stands for out/output
wooden ember
same with stderr (exept thats for errors)
sharp geyser
that returns info on things
quartz kindle
same with stderr (exept thats for errors)
same answer
sharp geyser
/tim What is the circumference of ur mother
red jolt
the discord dashboard has an invite generator
I know but I give every single permission to the invite link and the the bot is not functioning. I can't even use the commands anymore.
sharp geyser
tim bot non-functional
quartz kindle
/tim What is the circumference of ur mother
equal to your mother's divided by two
sharp geyser
ayo
red jolt
In the morning the bot was good. But now it wont even show the commands.
sterile lantern
i want it so whenever the client is being ratelimited, it runs a kill command (switching its container) -- but this doesn't seem to work:
process.kill(1)
})```how would i get the stream though? i have no experiance with messing with data streams other than audio
atm im just loging the raw output
mmm thats badly worded
i mean how would i convert it cuz the raw output is the stream im assuming
red jolt
Okay maybe I wait and try again tomorrow. I can't do anything on the phone.
wooden ember
cool
quartz kindle
how would i get the stream though? i have no experiance with messing with data s...
are you using stdout.on("data"?
wooden ember
yeah
quartz kindle
so stdout should have a .setEncoding method
wooden ember
i see
quartz kindle
otherwise the data you receive in the data event, you can use .toString() on
wooden ember
mmm ill try that
sterile lantern
i want it so whenever the client is being ratelimited, it runs a kill command (s...
?
wooden ember
otherwise the data you receive in the data event, you can use .toString() on
ok nice it worked, cheers tim
quartz kindle
?
the rateLimit event fires when the library protects you from hiting an actual rate limit
its not a real rate limit
sterile lantern
oh
quartz kindle
also process.kill() just quits node
sterile lantern
how would i know when its hitting a 429
quartz kindle
it doesnt do anything to tje container
quartz kindle
process.kill is not a shell kill
sterile lantern
o
quartz kindle
process.kill is like doing ctrl+c on node
oh wait nvm, im confusing it with process.exit