They could in the show but
#EPISODE 5
carmine bay
nova minnow
The “we are super secretive and double crossing, and we pull the strings” enclave is much more interesting than “muh power armor and technology”, it works way better pre war like you said
carmine bay
I doubt it considering the tone
The most that they’ve ever felt like the deep state guys pulling the strings is in 2 tbh
nova minnow
Yeah, 3s depiction kinda blew tbh
carmine bay
But even then much of that dissipates as the game progresses
nova minnow
Indeed
I think less focus on the “enclave” as an organization and instead a focus on the politics and rivalries in the enclave (like game of thrones style) would do wonders
Unfortunately they never really delve into the political side
76 did a fine job with it
They really lack depth in 2 and 3
carmine bay
For sure. 2 has some light nuances with the Enclave but it’s ultimately just a straightforward parody of Nixon and uber-american exceptionalism. The Enclave being terrifying but being undone by internal backstabbing and Machiavellian scheming more than any protagonist or BoS influence is how I’d prefer to see them resolved tbh.
nova minnow
Agreed
But what we got instead was, “blow them up epicly like generic sci fi nazis”
Which is fine as an option but i think there should have been other ways
Its a faction with lots of evil potential, but as they stand they’re just kinda generic and uninteresting the way its been handled aside from 76 lore
If they didnt have cool armor and guns literally nobody would give a damn about them
carmine bay
Yeah. Even in regards to 76 it’s like, yeah they’re doing a lot of things with the Enclave that I’d like to see more of, but they’re also not really scary either because they already wiped themselves out because they’re literally insane
nova minnow
True
carmine bay
Have yet to see their potential realized yet
nova minnow
Agreed
scenic hazel
sleek socket
your character didnt exist
it really only makes sense for the courier to have never existed. i mean, the legion doesnt gain any traction and clearly caesar died of his tumor, the ncr didnt seem to win and look at em now, yesman is nowhere to be seen, and it doesnt look like the house is winning.
the best bet is that yea, the courier just didnt exist. which means all of our gameplays are just parts of the multiverse
inner marten
it really only makes sense for the courier to have never existed. i mean, the le...
None of your theory makes any sense, both a house an yes man (and even NCR) ending are completely possible in the show as far as we have seen
sleek socket
its not shown yet but i predict it will be shown that the dam fell
but also, we see raiders invade mccarran. implying that a lot of the NCR died. and also the deathclaws and stuff...
inner marten
but also, we see raiders invade mccarran. implying that a lot of the NCR died. a...
We never saw raiders do that, the credit scenes aren’t canon, there were like 1million dead brotherhood in season 1s scenes that never happened
inner marten
its not shown yet but i predict it will be shown that the dam fell
Also if we haven’t seen it it doesn’t really support your theory, but I doubt any NCR are in the Vegas are really in any force, they would have regressed to northern Cali after the nuke
Vegas seems to have plenty of power so something must be supplying it