deep-dive-speedrunning

[nocturne ingot]

nice speedrun lmao

[peak reef]

easy peasy.

[hushed storm]

Speedrunning back to the space terminal

[fierce timber]

Medbay any%

[hardy wing]

Death%

[midnight belfry]

Blind Run

[brittle thistle]

Since I don't think it's been posted yet.

[fading escarp]

The DD/EDD details are pinned in #deep-dive-discussion

[peak reef]

gonna keep running but this one was solid
4:06
16:47
24:05

[peak reef]

no way in hell im beating this one
3:40
15:59
23:26

shoutout bosco stage 1

[terse hollow]

Hellfire is busted :)

[peak reef]

True as hell brother

[peak reef]

@minor helm did you ever figure out what was going on with the drilldozer? im noticing some variable timing on my drilldozer in s3 of the edd, not nearly as bad as you described, but noticable enough

[minor helm]

Unfortunately no. The only thing I found out was related to how fast the drilldozer goes which is dependent on how many dwarves and enemies are close by. We did additionally notice when the dozer was going 4/5 speed the entire stage that there were more enemies than usual, and at the ommoran phase 2 there were far more flying rocks than normal for a haz 3.5 duo scaling.

And when I mean the entire stage I mean even when there weren't any bugs around dottie she was still going 4/5 speed.

[peak reef]

i see, that does actually line up with my experiences, my first edd I did this week was incredibly tense and I noticed that she was extremely slow, with enough rocks that i couldnt actually kill them in time with my build at the time

and its gotten better since then, but now that you mention it, i do actually think they may be related

i just came back from a long break so i dont really have a good understanding of how fast the drill is meant to move, yet

but its definitely felt weird at times

[minor helm]

on the right hand side of the screen just under the dozer "health" are 5 arrows, if all are filled then she's moving the fastest she can

oddly enough when Nova and I did the EDD stage 3 our dozer was going full speed for most of the stage, it wasn't until the DD the dozer was having issues

[peak reef]

interesting, it might be worth doing some real testing on a week that has an edd or dd on stage 1

for ease of experimentation

thanks for the arrow tip, ill keep an eye out

[barren oak]

not what i would call i speedrun

[vernal palm]

A real struggle, but driller and engi were great with terraforming and my shield came in clutch against mactera swarms many times, so overall solid game, everyone did their part

[round egret]

probably would've been faster on gunner 💀

oh and if i didn't spend like a minute at the drop pod saving doretta i guess

[peak reef]

this random nemesis is pissing me off on stage 2

[analog kindle]

mission 2 had us fighting for our lives

[cold widget]

not a speedrun but I did my first ever solo EDD first try

[peak reef]

bleh probably cant beat this by the time the thing resets

[midnight belfry]

blind run

[pastel violet]

@nocturne ingot

This one?

[nocturne ingot]

yeah, that was it

[pastel violet]

:D

It was a cool first experience for me

Not too easy, not too hard

[fierce timber]

The Elite Deep dive was a tough bastard, and I got the most unlucky spawns/accidents on the normal dive too (Sniped mid air by fireball from the arbalest as scout)
Both playthroughs in #drg-videos

[peak reef]

yeah this weeks edd seems really annoying

[fierce timber]

Nothing worse than having an elite Glyphid menace during a dreadnaught fight...

[cold widget]

We almost got nae nae'd on in zone 3

Otherwise it wasnt too harsh

Twins in 3 suck

[nocturne ingot]

yeah, the timed interruption party is not nice

[fossil ruin]

Chasing the Deep Dive WR....👀

[alpine spear]

Blind with randos, and a scout who didnt understand haz5 mechanics

[peak reef]

gl brother, cant believe the times are so low now

i remember back in week 6 when my bud and i got a like 13 min time we were ecstatic

[dusk herald]

Holy shit!!! Also nice on rockin the suit, now we just gotta get Ryeor in it 🤣

[tawdry gazelle]

With Dark Mokite

[hollow dawn]

somehow first sub-45 dive i got was with very stupid melee build for driller

[hollow dawn]

(5 deaths because see you in hell very funny)

[alpine spear]

see you in hell with power attack beer is legit crazy fun

[wicked helm]

just random run 2 min ago

[minor helm]

no dark morkite used
won't be looking to lower this, I historically don't do well with ghosts on 4 egg missions

[vagrant bough]

blind with rando greenbeards, I feel like the only thing that saved us was all the extra nitra we got from mini mules

[peak reef]

what build did you use for this?

[dusk herald]

Anyone got any tips for this week's reg dive on the Mule part of stage 1? It's just super annoying that the Mules are way up above where the legs are and I'm struggling to get them up there fast enough. Berzerker is only enough to knock one of them most of the way down (I'm playing Scout). I can 2 cycle the Hiveguard and OG with relative ease but I just can't figure out the Mule part

Trying to do this one solo

[fossil ruin]

I don’t think it’s worth it to bring the mules down if you’re Scout. Since it’s 3-hit terrain I’d use berserker to break free as many legs as possible. Then throw-grapple-grab them up to the mule. You can use Bosco to throw 1 or 2 of them up to you as well

[dusk herald]

Yeah I think I may need Bosco to help me a bit, especially by the Mule where all 3 legs are under

One of em only has one leg under so that one I think I can handle

[minor helm]

Ice Storm, 1 1 2 1 2
Blistering Necrosis, 2 2 1 2 2 (at least im pretty sure it was these mods)
veteran depositor, resupplier, deep pockets, iron will, see you in hell
impact axes

[peak reef]

tyvm 👍

is that your default solo driller build?

[minor helm]

for general use or speedrunning?

if general use then no, but for speedrunning then sometimes

i may switch up the secondary depending on what I may need

[peak reef]

yeah speedrunning

gotcha

does anyone else experience a thing where when you kill one of the duo dreads too fast, the other one just turns invincible for like 30 seconds

[minor helm]

yep, not sure if it's a bug but I run into it a lot

[minor helm]

i think this happens because the game tries to force the twins to dig when one of them reaches 50% of their health, then they emerge to go invincible and heal. From several of my own observations, I've noticed this invincibility only stops when they dig back in the ground or some amount of time has passed, usually the first being the case.

So when you pass the 50% health threshold the game tries to get the twins to the healing phase, but if you kill one before it fully digs the game will still think the other is going into its healing phase but will also send the it into its "angry" phase, the phase that starts with the twin screaming when its sibling dies. But both the healing phase and the "angry" phase happen are now being applied at the same time which can have different results. To name a few: an invisible twin with no hurtbox (after some time it'll reappear with hurtbox active), an invincible twin (until it digs again or some time passes), and an invincible angry twin into a dig into a healing phase (it won't heal since the other is dead but will remain invincible until it digs again)

[peak reef]

all of that lines up with my experiences, yeah. have you found any workaround for this besides "dont kill them too fast"?

edd dont spawn a nemesis on stage 2 challenge (IMPOSSIBLE???)

[minor helm]

only one as far as I know, embedded detonators and born ready combo can kill a twin before the 50% threshold

but if you're trying it for the twins on stage 3 EDD this week you'll probably need about 4-6 clips of dets to do that

maybe less if you sprinkle in some primary damage waiting for born ready to proc

but getting a twin into that invincible state isn't necessarily a bad thing. In some cases it might help your runs to do another objective while a twin is invincible

[dusk herald]

Haha that technique is what I've been trying to practice for the reg dive stage 2

[rich vortex]

I get it constantly, it's really annoying.

[brave venture]

forgot to screenshot times on end screen but all these were with randoms.

[craggy crystal]

My best time is 40 on elite

And 45 on normal

[cold widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638152502876831755/1112248738589724722/elitedeepdive527.png

[odd marsh]

just realized i did the elite deep dive faster lmao

[silver copper]

<@&296918282403840000> ^

[amber current]

current dive?

[peak reef]

13:30~ (didn't ss, not sure)
24:27
34:37
hurricane (fragmentation missiles)
burst fire (lead spray)

gonna keep running but got very good dread rng in s2 which idk how often i can replicate

[steep flame]

NORMAL DEEP DIVE: 1st Mission: 2 Dreadnaughts (Hive Guard/ Classic) 2 Mini Mules, 2nd Mission: 4 Eggs, Dread (Twins), 3rd Mission: 150 Morkite, 2 Mini Mules

Since no one posted it this week

[steep flame]

and here is the Elite

[minor helm]

I lied and proceeded to look to lowering my time. Still hate ghosts on 4 egg missions. No dark morkite used.

[blazing edge]

absolute beast, 20 min on scout on this edd??

[golden blade]

What do you say about <10? :DDDD
@minor helm Record broken you should do another one if you want to be in the top 😘

[peak reef]

did you record that?

[odd marsh]

thats an impressive time, what your scout loadout?

[minor helm]

This was a driller run actually.
Ice Storm, 1 1 2 1 2
Blistering Necrosis, 2 2 1 2 3
Satchel, 3 1 1 3
Deep Pockets, Resupplier, Veteran Depositor, Iron Will, See You in Hell

[fossil ruin]

Let’s go over your info:

• Level 2338 season pass
• Player Level 374 with only 237 hours of total gameplay
• No video of gameplay
• Previous speedruns don’t come close to other players
• Admitted to using a pirated copy of the game

Hate calling people out, but this does not seem legitimate at all. Post a video of the run and I’ll happily rescind this statement.

[rich vortex]

There's also this

[minor helm]

I was willing to let this egotistical and seemingly illegitimate post slide, but then I see your post in drg-memes (now deleted) which I understand was meant to imply that I was using sandbox mods to cheat for a better time? No. I used sandbox mods to help me get a thumbnail for the run I recently posted here.

[golden blade]

Then I'll ask you a question, why should I prove anything to you?
Yes i abuse some bp lvl, and what? Xd
Pirat version? I already buy it qnd many donate+suport pack. 100+ lvl for pirat version, i just play solo.

[peak reef]

lol

[rich vortex]

You don't have to prove anything, just don't expect people to believe your run was legitimate unless you send a video.

[golden blade]

no, you're wrong, I just made a post about you going on to retake a deep dive, and it matched the timing of my remark to you. It doesn't matter if it was somehow related to each other or not, it was just a post cut out of context to make it seem funny

[fossil ruin]

You don’t have to prove anything to me. Just know that no one is going to believe your runs when you have verifiable proof of exploitation of the game and you come into multiple chats mocking and disrespecting well-known users of the community.

[golden blade]

but what do I need it for? I am writing here not to prove anything to anyone, but to share my result.

[peak reef]

why did you @ ryeor and shit talk him when you didnt want to prove anything

[rich vortex]

If you're gonna call somebody out like that, you should at least have proof that your run was actually legit.

[golden blade]

maybe I shouldn't care? I didn't insult anyone, I didn't break any rules. I just noticed a good set of circumstances, you don’t give a presentation to journalists for the fact that they distort information for the sake of a good post. so why are you so interested in me?

[golden blade]

this is not an official challenge, I just surpassed the first record that came across and noted the person who secured the previous record, nothing more

[golden blade]

show me this message and I will apologize to him

[golden blade]

Rly?
@fossil ruin :- Previous speedruns don’t come close to other players
So whats this? if you are looking for information, do it well.

[rich vortex]

I understand that. I'm telling you that you can't expect other people to believe your run was legit if you can't prove it. If you don't care what other people think, that's fine, but I just found it weird for you to make a provocative statement like that (#deep-dive-speedrunning message) if you truly didn't care.

[fossil ruin]

This happened today. You know what you said in this channel and with the “meme” you created.

You can post screenshots of your runs all you want, but no frequent users of this channel with find them credible unless you substantiate your claims.

[golden blade]

that's right, I called it a joke, if you don't find it funny it doesn't mean that others won't find it funny either. jokes can also be hurtful or taken out of context. but still, this does not mean that it is worth making a scandal because of this.

and why did you even conclude that I need someone to believe me? as I said, I just shared my result, not for criticism or suppression of anyone, but simply because this chat was created to share this kind of photo

[golden blade]

The answer is in the post above, let me know when you're not interested in reading it.

Sry mods for some offtoping but i cant dont answer

[minor helm]

A joke that was made at my expense, which I don't appreciate. Jokes stop being funny when someone is the punching bag. Only a jerk says otherwise.

Do you understand how damaging out-of-context things can be? You painted me in a bad light with your "meme" showing me using sandbox mods in a deep dive which could have been interpreted as a salty loser using said mods to get a better time. There was no reason other people needed to see it, and I think the mod who deleted it would agree. And for the sandbox mods I'll reiterate, I was using said mods to get a thumbnail.

We don't do "tops" here. That's gatekeeping. If getting back in "top" means running against a suspicious time then I want no part of it.

[golden blade]

If u rly doesn't read what i write for you why u still text me @minor helm , i already say "no meter" abt your sandbox. You just came up with a reason for yourself and blame me for it

[spare brook]

Give it up man. You're just digging yourself deeper. At this point, even if you proved your run is legit you'd still be cringe for saying all this shit. If you really care this much take it to the dms and leave this chat for speedrunning posts please

[golden blade]

I have no idea what "dms" is, but I'll probably refuse such an offer, if I want to, I'll post my speedruns, and then ping me as much as you like. no offense, but I personally am already tired of proving anything and anyone and having a dialogue without context

[peak reef]

how exactly does DD seeding work? i was playing this edd earlier this week and I didn't see betc, but now I'm getting her every single run on stage 1

and it's incredibly frustrating lol

is it based on some sort of timer?

[terse hollow]

Random events like bulks and BETT-C are just that, random.

If its not attached to the ground, it can happen.

[proud nova]

you're better off asking in #wiki-related-chatroom if you want details on that

[cold widget]

Sub 19 baby

[peak reef]

rock and stone to the bone

[peak reef]

12:32
22:10
30:59
probably cant push this too much more without just hoping to get lucky with spawns

[craggy remnant]

[wanton star]

i looked at his steam profile and found this in his screenshots. Seems legit

[peak reef]

i lied, it is simply a skill issue, i dont need to get lucky

[alpine spear]

are ur number of players different? i've also noticed but not catalogued subtle differences in DDs (betc spawn locations, quarq locations etc) between different continent server hosts?

[alpine spear]

theyve already admitted to using a lot of bugs. 🙂

[wanton star]

"bugs"

[alpine spear]

ikr, help my game is bugged with booosts

[peak reef]

nice one

[peak reef]

i have noticed a lot of changes depending on player count, but my specific thing here was in single player. after continuing to play, betc just stopped appearing, once again multiple runs in a row

which im very thankful for since the betc's before ruined my routing

[fossil ruin]

I've done runs of the deep dive where after running it around 10+ times and figuring out my route, the entire map changes (different mule locations, different morkite spots, etc.) so I basically have to start from scratch again. Not sure why it changes; I've been wondering that for a while

[stoic nimbus]

If you can prove yourself, send a video. Your racing time is really outrageous. I believe most people will feel that there is a problem. If you really have the strength, we just apologize.

If you say that, it will only show your guilt

I would be happy for you to send a video to prove yourself. If you really did it yourself, I will apologize for my doubts.

装你妈呢，傻逼东西，开挂狗也好意思来这发成绩

[sudden root]

[peak reef]

this is something I ran into back when the game launched but I haven't experienced it since coming back, luckily. how often does this happen, do you think?

[ruby nimbus]

Hi guys, I have started playing DRG recently and have only promoted gunner. I'm strugling really hard to complete the fuel task on first stage of this week elite deep dive, does anyone have a gunner solo video of this mission? Or any tips do complete it. Thanks

[peak reef]

what weapons are you using?

[ruby nimbus]

AC and BRT

[peak reef]

you probably want either the autocannon or rocket launcher just for dealing with swarmageddon, keep a resupply down next to the black box and uplink, and abuse shields to buy time and kill the hordes

[stoic mirage]

lead spray?

[peak reef]

you can also use ziplines to to float near the top of the uplink sphere and avoid all melee damage, but thats kind of boring

if you're having trouble with praets/ oppressors, either use the shield or fear from AC to make them turn and try and pop them with BRT

if you use leadburster like me, remember to throw the grenade behind the big guys, and id also recommend saving 3 or so leadbursters if possible to deal with possible bulk det spawn

[ruby nimbus]

Do you keep running in and out of the main area during this task?

[peak reef]

no, i stick in the whole time, its very bad to leave the area since it goes down very fast and you'll just have to deal with more stuff anyways

[ruby nimbus]

I feel like if I stay only inside the circle, sometime I end up surrounded by the foes

[peak reef]

yeah, thats where shield comes in

its an insanely powerful tool

especially for this mission typwe

it makes enemies retreat, makes you immune to projectiles and lets you do whatever you want basically

you dont want to use it without a good reason to, but considering it's a time objective, you can just basically run around in the circle buying time for shields

id recommend resupplier perk for this as well as iron will, both of those help a lot for keeping things smooth

for example if you go down, you can iron will immediately, and then resupply, wait for the end of the iron will timer, and then shield for around 20~ seconds of immunity

[ruby nimbus]

Oh, thats a good tip, maybe if I had Iron Will I should've completed this already

[peak reef]

it helps a ton with this mission type for basically every class

in my experience at least

[ruby nimbus]

I allways fail at somepoint near 80%

[peak reef]

yeah, so iron will would save you there, you can only use it once ofc but

[ruby nimbus]

But I know I still have a lot to improve in my combat skills

Thanks man

[fossil ruin]

New Deep Dive WR??

w/ @young plaza !

(forgot to say w/Dark Morkite)

[rich vortex]

Wow.

[cold widget]

whats previous duo wr?

[young plaza]

8:24

[dusk herald]

Damn you guys!! Did you record it??

[fossil ruin]

Sure did!

[glacial raven]

wonder what time people would get back then if they used glitch

[fossil ruin]

You guys were too good - you didn't need the glitch 😆

[glacial raven]

I really belive sub 7 would have been possible on some old seed

[dusk herald]

Eyyyy Silaise, how are you

[glacial raven]

still waiting for a sub 10 EDD possible to get all class under 10, it's been 2 years since I wait

[dusk herald]

Haha

Still proud of the 1:52:967 seeded Haz 2 200 Morkite co-op run me and Ryeor did and that is now proudly featured on speedrun.com

[young plaza]

Enjoy that for now 😈

[dusk herald]

Haha you guys gonna try and beat us I take it? 😈 I wanna see you try

[minor helm]

I'll admit, I do think it's beatable with more dwarves at least

[dusk herald]

SHHHH

[glacial raven]

for the one doing speedruncom run, just know that there will be some change in some category with the update on 2 categorie and also seeded might get affected

get ready to do new wr

[dusk herald]

You hear that @minor helm ?

We gots more speeeeeeeeds to do

[young plaza]

I’m happy to hear that with how much has changed some are almost impossible.

[dusk herald]

Yeah some of those runs are just so low it's like how can they be beaten? Both seeded and not

[glacial raven]

I can only talk about it after experimental is live

[dusk herald]

Haha

[young plaza]

Most of the records Ben and I have done are by one second or two. So just a improper groove on the ground can decide your fate.

[dusk herald]

Haha yeah good point

Speaking of Snoop might you and Beni be interested in joining me and Ryeor to form a quad and go for the seeded Haz 2 10 Aquarq co-op run? 👀

[young plaza]

Yeah just gotta get a time to work

[minor helm]

i've felt these grooves, and they're painful 💀

[dusk herald]

Eyyyy

[dusky herald]

Any speed runs of haz 4 or 5?

[fierce timber]

I dont think people really speedrun normal runs, mainly because its randomized unlike the deep dives

[peak reef]

12:05
20:51
28:49

finally happy w this :D

[meager mesa]

ur an ass

@wanton star

[wanton star]

he was*

[meager mesa]

lol

[spare brook]

There are speedruns for normal missions, but it's not as active as the deep dive runs. You can find the leader board and a link to the speedrunning discord on the drg speedrun.com page

[alpine spear]

gratz

[faint holly]

He got smited

[vernal palm]

died 3 times trying to hoard 2 eggs and an aquarq during a swarm lol, still my very first sub 30 for a blind run

Also the first time posted so I can technically say I have been the fastest for a bit eheh

[stoic nimbus]

Try not to practice repeatedly to go to speedrunning😂

[fierce timber]

A bit annoying EDD but I think given the mission types, it was an alright time
Went in blind run.

[fierce timber]

Gameplay of both deep dives in #drg-videos

[fossil ruin]

Another fast week 👀

[fierce timber]

Yeah, that was a blind run, I think once you know where everything is, you could shave down a lot of time compared to that

[fossil ruin]

How’s the aquarq situation? Pretty easy to get to them all? I imagine that’ll be the longest stage

[fierce timber]

Yeah, pretty much, struggled to find last two at first, and most of them are located in a pit, so you need bosco, or that throw + grapple strat to get them up fast.

[dull orbit]

What were the stages for this week?

[peak reef]

check #deep-dive-discussion for the stages each week

copying here from there
Elite Deep Dive
"Blue Thunder" (2023-06-01 to 2023-06-08)
Region: Fungus Bogs
Stage 1: 10 Aquarqs + Black Box
Stage 2: Escort Duty + 2 Mini-mules | Swarmageddon + Critical Weakness
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 2 Mini-mules | Shield Disruption

Deep Dive "Burning Hook" (2023-06-01 to 2023-06-08)
Region: Salt Pits
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + 150 Morkite | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 2: 7 Aquarqs + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + Classic Dreadnought

{"Seed":3647349665,"SeedV2":4174016539,"ExpirationTime":"2023-06-08T11:00:00Z"}

[dull orbit]

Ah ty. I was so used to it being posted here in the past

[deft wharf]

Ayo thanks

[rich vortex]

This one seemed good for speedruns, I just don't really enjoy it too much.

[fossil ruin]

Nice time!

[rich vortex]

Thanks

There's a lot of potential timesave

I didn't have the best DPS for the dreadnought, but I hit him with a resupply pod which sped it up a little.

[dusky herald]

ty ty

[south plume]

thought the same, I think it might be possible to go under 15 with this week's regular dive

[split atlas]

best team in ages. You dont need only lvl 150+ dwarfs. (talking to you dwarf snobs) only good and fun people. Dwarfs have no level

[vernal palm]

Gunner went hard af there

Respect to him

[round egret]

I promise I'm trying to go fast, I'm just not very good at it.

[light flint]

Pretty proud of this one ngl

I'm not the best but I just put on some breakcore and play like a scout that ingested crack, fun times

[hollow jasper]

first try speedrunning a deep dive. blind speedrun as driller. thought'd I'd do worse honestly

[wispy rapids]

yeah, i did it! (solo under 20 minutes)
(not good screenshot, but anyway)

[rich vortex]

Not necessarily?

It is possible to take a screenshot early enough that the rewards are null

[vernal palm]

This is how I feel too hahah its so much fun

[spare brook]

It's not fake. Like Coco said they just took the screenshot before the score filled in. I've done it before too

[spare brook]

look up bozo

[drowsy dagger]

Blind with the boys.

[peak reef]

anyone figured out a way to make the drop pod not land in the starting room on s3 of the edd? i havent been able to find a spot to manip it well

losing a lot of time there consistently

does digging a hole straight down and then calling drop pod work to manipulate it like that?

[charred owl]

afaik, whatever button you press to call the drop pod, wherever that button is, the drop pod will always drop as far as possible (not always literally as absolutely far as possible but it will do its best to be far away), relative to where the button is. So with stuff like like refinery where the button is attatched to the rig, no you cant do anything.

But if you move molly somewhere. say, the starting room, the drop pod will be at the end of the cave. Or at least, near it or just somewhere far away

it will always be faster to just hit the button and go though. Not sure why youd want to manipulate the drop pod drop location

[peak reef]

let's say you're 90% through a morkite mission in terms of length, like you're in the final room but at the start of it

sometimes when you call the pod in that location, it will go back to the start

if you go further in, and you call the pod, it may end up in a middle room

this can save 20-30 seconds, while only costing you around 5-10 to move molly to the back

or more efficiently, you can just route so you end up in the back of the room

[charred owl]

I mean if you want to rng to save 10 seconds go for it but also if you cant consistently glitch into the drop pod before the doors open then

[peak reef]

i dont like that glitch so i dont want to use it, and its not rng if you use a consistent molly location

[charred owl]

I think it is rng, Ive done repeat deep dives before and once noticed that the drop pod was in a different location the 2nd time I hit the button on molly, and molly was in almost the exact same spot.

I just sorta noticed it but to me it has little significance

I like speedrunning in the sense of going fast and being efficient and excelling at the game, but im not so into it that im actually looking at times.

[charred owl]

this was a industrial sabotage i believe. Maybe it was a dd? Or a repeat mission? But molly was right next to the caretaker battery thing that you get at the end of the fight (i forgor what its called)

[sudden root]

fastest edd i've ever did, scout hard carried my drowsy ass

[graceful jackal]

That's a cool gunner

[short ether]

Can anyone link a good video or give instructions on how to get into the drop pod early with scout? I saw a speed run where the runners did it on all three levels in the DD.

I can get the first clip but can’t seem to get past the second ceiling

[frosty pond]

https://youtu.be/I4cfsEeJ5ZMaybe here? I haven’t tried it yet but maybe it will help … also this video Is madness 😂

[short ether]

Yes that’s the run I saw two days ago. I tried to get it yesterday but had no luck beyond the initial clip into the top of the pod. the run is absolutely nuts!

I’m not sure if it’s a positional thing or if I’m not mashing the right buttons

[alpine spear]

Not sure what you mean, you don't have to be "in" The pod. As long as you're inside the green cuboid that counts as the end zone you will finish the mission

There are 2 clips possible that are easy and reliable to do

The 1st is from where molly enters the pod

And the second is from under the pod just as it lands, timing is important here, so scout is best for this, but i have done it with dash driller

[fossil ruin]

Are you trying to clip in from the bottom or from the top of the pod? The bottom has a much higher success rate if you are able to get there early enough

[short ether]

so i dont have to even get past the pipes in the ceiling, being above that still counts? this might be where i was confused, kinda mixed the bottom approach and top approach, i thought you made your way back down into the main pod area. and i have yet to try the clip from the bottom, but might make some attempts tonight. im new to the game and not speed running anything, i just saw it and thought it was neat and was wondering how it was executed.

[short ether]

oh snap its HIM. lol great runs, crazy movement. i have only tried from the top, but will try and make some attempts from the bottom!

Thank you both for clarifying for me much appreciated!

[fossil ruin]

When I’m about to clip from the bottom, I always look up at the drop pod to see where the lights on the pod are facing. That’s where the drop pod door is. I always aim for the oppose side of the door, right along where the red line is in the picture. Just hold the grapple there until it lands, and then press forward and jump up into the pod

[spare brook]

blind run

[amber current]

deep dive this week?

[karmic trout]

#deep-dive-discussion message

Get's pissed here now every week

*pinned

[north stream]

Blind with randos

[ornate river]

Your drillers drip is immaculate

[sudden root]

ty fam

[silent shuttle]

I forgot to screenshot my first deep dive 😭

i got 38min\

[slate roost]

Last weekend blind Elite DD, Solo 1 hour but flawless

[slow meteor]

My friend and I got inspired by Benicopter's performance last week and spent the last few days over probably 10-12 hours perfecting this. Sub-14 definitely possible too, might go for that later.

[peak shard]

benicopter's vids always get me in the mood to hop on scout and zoom

[slow meteor]

Anyone have tips on how to glitch into the drop pod? Both for as it lands and getting in the top after it lands. We've managed to glitch in from below as it's landing a couple times but it's not consistent and never managed to get it from the top. Ping me with any replies pls.

[grave phoenix]

Is saving doretta optimal?

[peak reef]

if you dont save doretta it doesnt count

[peak reef]

bosco simulator stage 1 😔 boring edd

[tame flare]

Not optimal, required

[short ether]

@slow meteor heres a wr holder explaining it to me

[fossil ruin]

What FPS are you getting? I’ve heard that it could be FPS dependent in order to successfully clip through the top, and that anything 60 or lower is virtually impossible. I have not tested this personally, however.

[slow meteor]

Thanks! Saw that discussion but must have missed the screenshot, will pass it along.

[slow meteor]

Not sure, I'm not the one doing it. I can check with my friend who is though.

[crisp field]

I don't know if it's fps buuut I'm on console and play at 60fps. More often than not you're gonna have to be waiting for molly lol. Still does work sometimes though but clipping in the pod is not the basically every time occurrence it seems to be on pc for sure

[peak reef]

4:40
11:24
15:36

[dusk herald]

This week I had issues with the clipping

[minor helm]

@dusk herald @fossil ruin we were so close to a new WR

couldn't find snoops tag 😦

[dusk herald]

We tried our best

[pale harbor]

Also any tips for solo edd’s on gunner?

What weapons would be good, and what overclocks should i try to farm dd’s for?

Im thinking of the coilgun overclock that gives it the triple shot ability with the overclock for the minigun that gives it heat damage (hellfire is the name iirc)

[peak reef]

loadout for solos generally depends a lot on mission type, specifically eliminations require some build adjustment unless you want it to be miserable

my generic loadout for solo gunner edds is hurricane + elephant rounds revolver, is able to deal with basically everything including bosses, but lots of stuff works just fine

gunner is safe and good enough that if your build is at least a little logical, it will be fine; shield is absolutely broken and means that most point defense objectives are extremely simple

looking at this week, it looks pretty simple and crit weakness on the elimination means you can probably bring whatever weapon you want tbh

[fierce timber]

Damn, so close to sub 30

[minor helm]

uuh no clue. Honestly didn't even think about the 4 player category. I think we were all focused on beating the current 2-player WR to even think about whether or not we might have the 4 player WR.

[fluid swallow]

Our first run of the elite

[delicate falcon]

speedrunning with randoms

[ornate river]

W

[wooden lake]

Solo DD of the week

[twilit gull]

Not the fastest but sub ~42 minutes 🫡

(With randoms btw)

[vernal palm]

sub 45 edd with randoms, we werent even speedrunning

[round egret]

bring ur crowd control frens

[craggy remnant]

not my best but still decent

[peak reef]

very frustrating edd this week, the morkite on stage 1 kept changing between what seemed to be like 3 different seeds where only 1 of them was decent

i think benicopter mentioned this happening before and this was the first week ive seen it and it sucked 😭

[delicate falcon]

i find keeping the player count going into the edd consistent seems to prevent that but i could be wrong

[peak reef]

definitely not the case for me, ran solo the entire time

it does make a huge difference for player account, definitely, but this week for some reason i got a lot of variability

ive been running the past 4-5 weeks and havent seen it before so it was a bit jarring to go through my morkite routing and realize its all in weird spots

[alpine spear]

can attest to this

[solid granite]

they look like leaf lovers

[peak reef]

hope this weeks deep dives are more fun to run

might as well post it, very unhappy with this run but i couldnt improve it (so unhappy that i didnt even ss the end screen)
vim sludge
epc
solo

[fierce timber]

Was hoping to get under 40 but kept having so many unlucky things lol (new grabber enemy pulling me out of the uplink etc)

[real topaz]

What's the WR

[fierce timber]

I think somewhere around 8 minutes or less?

Video of both my Elite and normal Deep Dives can be found in #drg-videos !

[fading escarp]

wasn’t it 8:20 like two weeks ago

[opal patrol]

Nice time

[sage raven]

not too bad for a blind run

[peak reef]

jet boots are a gamechanger lads

[cold widget]

I am assuming they are a completely new addition with season 4?

[peak reef]

mhm

gonna be a big deal for runs

for non scout

[alpine spear]

im not convinced it will boost non scout runs to faster than scout, they have to appear in the right mission and you waste about 10 secs on the mini game

[peak reef]

not too worried about that, i think its best to think about runs as class based instead of purely lowest time possible since other classes are fun to play and run with

when it comes to pure lowest time yeah it wont matter

[red wraith]

Is there any type of leaderboard for speed runs? I know not in game but a website where people record?

[rich vortex]

https://www.speedrun.com/deep_rock_galactic

this is the speedrun leaderboard for every game ever

if you ever want to find the leaderboard for a game, check speedrun.com

[fossil ruin]

There’s no leaderboard for Deep Dive speedruns though, unfortunately

[alpine spear]

You can now use the boots to edge clip out of a bulk slam and kill bugs for free

Since the slam is a sphere of dmg, you can jump straight up and if you time it right you take 0 dmg

[wooden lake]

Deep Dive speedrun solo Scout for this week.

[terse hollow]

<@&296918282403840000> bot detected

in #deep-dive-speedrunning as well

[worldly vault]

😎

[spiral acorn]

Nice

[strange swift]

Deep Dive speedrun duo for this week.

[static acorn]

where do people find speedrunning dwarves to speedrun with?

@ me

[pastel violet]

First ever deep dive went well 😄

Not quite a speedrun but still glad about it

[proven gyro]

Did they fix spam depositing? Feels like i cant quite get it to work anymore

[sullen python]

totally random 30 min speedrun with randoms ;)

[alpine spear]

was some other dwarf depositting at the same time?

[proven gyro]

Dont think so- Now that ive had a bit more time i think it still works, just might be more inconsistent

[fading escarp]

still works when i bother to press the 2nd button, afaik

[white coral]

Sub 40 solo? Not even fast but it gave me an achievement so I'm happy abt it.

[turbid jolt]

<@&296918282403840000> 2 Discord nitro bots here

[rigid gust]

first attempt, happy with how it went

also finally got deep for speed after meeting the conditions 5 separate times THANKS steam

[barren jolt]

I know the pain. I’ve done the one free bullet achievement in half life 2 ep1 eight times and never got it

[brave venture]

EDD second stage is balls

[crystal thicket]

Just post it here before new deep dive out

[paper needle]

speedrun with randoms

[wicked helm]

really easy with random team

[fossil ruin]

Looking like another fast week! 👀

[peak reef]

yeah its looking decent so far

stage 1 all eggs in same room

w/ bb

[peak reef]

yep sick week, only stage that requires any routing at all is s2 and all stages are really small

[round egret]

you know its a quick one when i can make a sub 40

[round egret]

i saw two scouts in the lobby and thought "eh ok might as well"

[barren jolt]

[vernal palm]

A very fast blind run with randos

[alpine spear]

blind rando runs

[indigo belfry]

Quick enough for a cup of coffee

[fierce marsh]

I think the elite deep dive took me like 27 minutes with randoms

Eggs are nice and quick

[lucid agate]

blind with randoms

[open willow]

got a 20 min run with dark morkite

[alpine spear]

yeah but you need peeps to be ready for this, often the gunner wont use shields to help deposit and hit button etc, four man randos are hard to shepherd into speenruns

[rich vortex]

Blind run with dark morkite

The stingtails were so awful.

I don't think it would have been as bad on a different biome with more open caves

[sage raven]

blind run with no dark morkite. Should have been sub 20 but i couldn't get the final drop pod clip

[worthy totem]

Bruh

[sage raven]

<@&296918282403840000> we got a scam here

[carmine willow]

L scam

[fierce timber]

Pretty happy with this time actually, blind solo run
Playthrough in #drg-videos

[fast lotus]

rando elite with 3 HK server people

they even speedrun the mission end screen 🤣 I didn't get the chance to screen shot

[wispy rapids]

Not bad, i suppose

[fast lotus]

With randos

[fast lotus]

why these looks sus

[vernal palm]

Because they are bots

<@&296918282403840000> remove these bots please thanks

They are hacked accounts probably

[brave venture]

Cause they are

[untold wind]

19 minutes edd on PlayStation, we were reckless 🤣

[prime igloo]

May i offer you a live Satchel Charge for 150 credits?

[white coral]

Both DD's done in about an hour...

And I still think it's slow tbh

Blind runs too which made this fun, gotta love randoms

[split atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/ateam-hannibal-gif-24291863

i love it when a deep dive come together

[mortal laurel]

With randos and 500 ms ping

[alpine spear]

Oof my cap is 300 ms

[mortal laurel]

I ❤️ suffering

[radiant vale]

What is drop pod clip?

[sage raven]

there's a way at the end of a mission to go through the drop pod to skip waiting for molly

it can save quite a lot of time when the pod spawns far away from you

the way i used lets you stand on the side of the pod, by the mule hatch, then spam jump and a direction and it puts you through the wall

but theres another way that lets you go through the floor

[alpine spear]

welcome back Dwarfer

[spare brook]

blind run

[sage raven]

how do you do it

this guy knows something we dont

[spare brook]

I got my wisdom teeth out the day before yesterday, so I'm not 100% yet, but I'm planning on getting a good run uploaded for this edd

[opal patrol]

I'm looking for some alternatives to rewiring mod for speed running. Anyone have ideas for a primary for scout or driller?

[full river]

What's this week's deep dive? Can'T see it in the discussion

[spare brook]

aggressive venting is good if you want to ignore bugs. You can just proc the reload and then mine during the fear effect. Hipster is always fun too

[opal patrol]

I used to use aggressive all the time but ran into ammo problems on longer EDD's. The fear is amazing 😍. Could you explain hipster. I never understood why it was a competitive option for speed running. It's a even worse option when playing normally because of BOM doing more dmg per second on h5 4 player scale pretorians (can't spell) and being more ammo effective when properly set up. Can you explain the proper use for hipster?

[dusk herald]

Not bad for a few initial runs, stage splits 5:56, 8:16 & 4:29

[dusk herald]

I like OPA on the DRAK, good overall. I use it a lot

[delicate falcon]

hipster gives a huge amount of ammo by default so you can just dump mags into big hp targets without any setup needed like ifgs, cryo, etc

[worthy badger]

My personal best, solo, regular deep dive

[radiant vale]

is it something like this, if not send clip

[sage raven]

yeah just like that

[spare brook]

definitely not a perfect run, but still pretty good

I might try to get it lower if I feel up for it later this week

[willow palm]

no way

[delicate falcon]

actually built different

[fossil ruin]

A very thoughtful insight, and intriguing as well. I think this would encourage players such as myself to expand beyond Scout and actually use Gunner or Engineer for once.

I do think we may see some changes in strategy using Iron Will since the Stingtail was released. If there’s multiple Stingtails it basically makes Iron Will impossible to use effectively.

[rich vortex]

Good idea. The main category I'd personally be interested in are true solo runs (no bosco).

Those would be challenging not only because you lose some extra lives, but also because you have to do all the work yourself.

[errant oriole]

there is a lot of variety in the speed run categories for the game beyond just unofficial random deep dives, some categories don't even have submissions. If their were more restrictions like classes and stuff it could be fun but also there is so little activity currently with so many options that fragmenting it even more means very little. Unless you just mean for personal fun or records then i agree. but really I would say it would be better if more people were into it than there should be more variety. the larger DRG community is aging and getting better and maybe there will be more interest in speed play as it goes but as far as official runs the only thing we are hurting for is people playing.

[errant oriole]

I been waiting here for you to send that message for 20 minutes dog, are you sure we should be talking about speed running at all?

I dont think its a bad idea, just trying to express why up to this point there is a lack of difficult challenges associated with speed. I dont mean to reduce the challenge run stuff at all cause it is a very fun idea and very fun in practice when I have done racing, great direction to go. Up until recently the true solo aspect or some of the stuff you are interested in, 6x2 and the like, there has been a general divide between that and speedplay and i think some of the push back is that playing fast kinda circumvents some of the things being exhibited. Or in the team play defeats some of what is fun for the players playing higher difficulties. Since im not sure of your background with it at all but see you do 6x2 and other stuff it might be worth perusing the tournament stuff that happened in PDRG. they tried to arrange in the past, speed i think was some factor in it and that group of players would be more interested in the harder elements.

I dont mean to keep the two ideas seperate at all by saying to find it there but i just feel like its more in line with that than this, but maybe thats a bad read on my part

ah i understand, i didn't watch or participate but knew they were happening, im sure that stuff take some time to figure out. thats too bad.

i see what u mean about the strats being very confined to certain things in the current mode, and it would be easier to open that up from just a handful of things by adding more elements. I can see that being offputing probably for a lot of people as well. I know that personally I don't run much as scout if i can help it because I can't play it as well as some of the other runners and would get crushed on time. I can imagine seeing the optimal routing as it is deterring people from wanting to play it at all. People who might rather play another class or a build.

I think you are right, at first i thought it would make it even more scattered but i think you are right that it might appeal to more people having other options to play. Which would help with the biggest problem of general audience doing speedplay. I think you have a good idea.

[rich vortex]

Randoweisser speedruns seem like they might be fun.

[alpine spear]

what was stopping you from posting those runs before? just the finish time?

[alpine spear]

if it also randoed the class it would be lit af

wdym its not a real category? just post ur runs? what stops you?

[peak reef]

it doesnt really feel too good to do runs in a category no one else actually plays

[alpine spear]

im very confused by your rant then, are you saying other ppl should do what you do?

[peak reef]

it's about opening possibilities for modes of play

there is no actual reason to not do scout special powder if the entire goal is purely lowest time possible, but that is obviously not the only way to play the game

[glacial raven]

yesterday

[peak reef]

and there are a lot of fun ways to optimize speed in this game that do not involve scout

or that specific strategy

[alpine spear]

they already exist, if you want to run with a different class, run with it?

[peak reef]

yes, but the point is to normalize it

and discuss ways to make more people interested in doing it

[alpine spear]

this isnt like an official gsg backed speedrunning thing

if you want to do deathless, do deathless

if you want lowest time do scout

if you want to do lowest time on another class do it

and post ur runs here

[glacial raven]

you want scout to not be the fastet ? ban clipping inside drop pod

[alpine spear]

i doubt ppl will be like you noob because you dont run scout

even if they do, fuck em

[glacial raven]

no

[alpine spear]

wouldnt even come close

scouts ability to travel the map is unparalleled

dash is a poor substitute

[glacial raven]

ha yes, until cliping inside the pod it was scout that was holding the fastest DD, a yellow scout

depending on the deep dive the driller could achieve faster run just because he can do shortcut for molly, if there is no clipping inside the drop pod that change a lot of thing

than just get better at the rest, like 2 years ago when we had mostly driller doing incredible thing that motivated some other driller

we have new weapon that can be stronger yes/faster

people are supposed to be more experienced

and what's more for the DD ? sabotage and robot

for the categories there is none, so run what you want it will then exist.
Didn't run anything because I got bored of DD Speedrun

I was waiting to get sub 10 on my 3 last class for EDD, and it's done

no as a team

[alpine spear]

yeah the game has reached eol for most runners, not a lot to do

[errant oriole]

unfortunately that is far from true as there are, as said before, unfilled categories and almost all filled categories are hardly optimized. The things that currently exist to do may be unappealing for most runners, there is not an absence of things to do.

[next cave]

say, is there an ultimate bravery category for speedrunning

randoweisser apparently didn't work properly but we could replicate that ourselves

[errant oriole]

since its so new theres definitely no official random run stuff but it is a fun idea and could be a cool thing to share with different groups racing each other or something of the sort.

[next cave]

actually I vaguely recall watching a video about someone doing that.

except it's full random loadouts from any class

[fading tide]

Not even half an hour LET’S GOOOOO

[lost torrent]

Augh, if we'd just been a touch faster getting the final egg, that could have been a sub-30

pretty good for a run with a semi-greenbeard though; that was his first promo/EDD

[cold widget]

How the hell do you do that it took me an hour and a half for the first 2 objectives bruh

[terse hollow]

team coordination

Also, the more time you spend, the more enemies spawn, and it adds up

a really good team will be doing objectives through swarms

[lost torrent]

Basically popping every single egg as fast as we can, overlapping the swarms and punching the exit as soon as we can.

1st stage was done in 5 minutes, 2nd stage was 15 bc of a few downs.

last stage was a pain bc of cavegen

[stuck oyster]

Any tips for speedrunning?

[lost torrent]

Honestly its just coordination and making sure you're never idle.

If you're ambling the caves aimlessly then you're doing it wrong.

Overlap swarm eggs if you're confident with it. If you've already popped both swarm eggs, then you might as well grab all of the eggs since it's just miniswarms from there.

1st stage DD everything is close together and there's only one swarm egg - do the black box first, then pop all the eggs and instant call.

Deal with the swarm on the way to the drop pod.

[stuck oyster]

Oh I popped all eggs then started the black box so I didn't get swarmed

Should I get aquarqs or morkite first?

[lost torrent]

That works too.

As for aquarks or morkite, depends on if you're solo or 4man.

If you're solo, get the aquarks first bc it'll be a pain to get them while the ghost is chasing you otherwise. Don't bother depositing them, just throw them onto the minehead and grab the Morkite once you've done that.

If you're 4-man, spread duties as according to class.

[stuck oyster]

Going solo
Got the aquarqs but lost some time because of finding morkite

21 minutes so far

[lost torrent]

not bad.

[stuck oyster]

I'm going in blind too so I'm doing pretty good

[lost torrent]

plus remember that the dives don't change so you can retry & optimize

[stuck oyster]

Finished

That was pretty quick
For me at least

27 minutes

Looking at my stats and I have never done a DD as engi

27 minutes and 40 seconds is my DD record

[minor helm]

I read the discussion in here about other classes speedrunning the dives so I figured I'd try for some engi times. Not blind and no dark morkite. Sub 16 is possible with engi.

[upbeat flume]

Fist time posting here on the speed run and I think the EDD is worth my first time post

[native elk]

my edd time is actually faster than my dd time lmao

actually I had a rough deep dive so
yea still

[minor helm]

I used Lok1 ECR and RJ250. Shredders, gemini defender and extended "mag" capacity

I'm not sure tbh. I've only ever done one other engi speedrun with RJ...

but, it being the wish dot com special powder it still is very useful for mobility

dash and RJ goes crazy btw

[native elk]

you also get alot of ammo from rj

[minor helm]

yeah sure, I can show ya what I did. I wasn't recording then but I can record later tonight then get a vid out tomorrow about noonish

yeah, plus incendiary, T4B, and T5B

I like the extra damage T5B provides since I'm using the PGL both offensively and defensively (as an escape)

I'm not too familiar with how proxi trigger behaves with RJ250

like does it go off when shot straight down or does it bounce off the ground when shot down? do i need to rely on bugs being near me to use it?

well, in any case, I would think T5 comes down to personal preference

[minor helm]

thorns, deep pockets, unstoppable, dash, beast master

i'll show the entire loadout in the video too

[cunning sentinel]

proxy acts as a normal grenade for 0.2 seconds after being fired, so it works fine with rj

[sick pond]

Sub 30 deepdive, it was B8014's first one and this was purely by accident

Went a bit too quick, forgot to get the credits and xp

[warped turtle]

my first every DD was sub 45

[sick pond]

Soild work man

[warped turtle]

not unusual to go faster when ammo becomes a pain

[alpine lynx]

what helmet does hero havoc have on

[peak reef]

#deep-dive-speedrunning message

great explanation here for clipping from the bottom

if you're talking about molly clip at the side or anything else, i have no clue and can never get it to work

what i did was go into sandbox utilities and go to an aquarq/refinery mission and call drop pods to learn how to do it

[sick pond]

One of the rewards from the campaign thing in season 2 or 3

[peak reef]

yeah i have no idea and nothing i do works 👍

fun thing about engi is that with rj250 it is actually possible to make it to the drop pod before it lands on a lot of maps, decent advantage all things considered

a lot of small maps*

like on this weeks normal dd i clipped into all of them as engi

when i cant make it to the pod in time i just take the L at this point

feels bad but im gonna give myself brain damage by banging my head into the drop pod

i think people said that, yeah

i dont get very good frames in this game due to old computer so id like to think its fps dependent at least lmao

oh well

[minor helm]

yep, beni and I think it is far less consistent below 60 fps

i even tried it on 30 and never got it once

[peak reef]

if i run my game in a 800x600 window i can do it 💯

[minor helm]

its pretty janky yeah, but spamming W and jump simultaneously at a moderate pace usually gets me through

[unreal bane]

Is it bad that I learned last week after 2 years that my monitor is 144hz and ive been locking games to 120 lol

[peak reef]

well i got it once good enough for me

[unreal bane]

And I get it about half the time on 120 locked

[peak reef]

oh wait i play solo i can just lower my settings at the end of levels and not lose time 😈

man i really thought i just didnt understand this tech or something but no

was fps

thats tragic

[spare brook]

I went and tested it. I could get the clip about 6 times per minute capped at 60 fps and about 16 times per minute capped at 144 fps (really getting around 120). Keep in mind that this also included the time to get back out of the pod and in position. So yes higher fps makes it easier, but it's not impossible at 60 fps. I have noticed though during some missions that I just can't get the clip for whatever reason so I think there's some other stuff going on too

[warped turtle]

Deep Dive: Impure View Planetary Region: Dense Biozone Time: 28:49

[lyric geode]

First ever DD and EDD, both sub 45s. Didn't know it was a thing until I saw the achv lul

[thorny crest]

I did the EDD 5 hours ago and then immediately went back to work.

Just got back and logged on, apparently my first EDD of the season (on console) was my best run time ever in the 2 years I've been playing 😱😱😱 what a way to kick out the season. Now I want to run it again while playing like a serious boy (I goof during dives unless I find them menacing...aka I dwarf during dwarf work. Don't tell management)

Ngl both deaths were legit and the last mission, only one they spawned for me. My first game of the season was this EDD. Stingtail, I'll be back to kick your arse 😈 haven't seen the spreader or corrupter yet but gonna play rn and try and find em

[minor helm]

@vale ravine my engi run is up and is in drg-videos if you want to take a look. Beat my 16:40 by about a minute

[upper patio]

idk if it was answered yesterday btw, but t5a has an arming time - the proximity detonation does not immediately activate, and for a short time after the shot is fired it will function as normal, allowing it to work with rj250

[indigo belfry]

Randoweisser speedrun

[hard berry]

thats awesone

[indigo belfry]

24 is a lot better than I expected
Especially since me and engie got some pretty crap builds

But hey

We were able to pull through

[unborn cosmos]

speedrun with @errant oriole @finite palm @glacial raven

[fossil ruin]

Congrats on the insane record!! Well played.

[glacial raven]

try to beat that now

[errant oriole]

there is still 12 hours left

[unborn cosmos]

took a few days to grind it out

the power of eggs and morkite objectives

sub-6 might be possible with a perfect run too

[minor helm]

Absolutely wild! Well done!

[hollow timber]

a.) amazing job! that's truly outstanding
b.) how the hell is there a player that's almost 2500 player rank?!?!?

[alpine spear]

congrats

[spare brook]

felt like putting the hours in tonight. Could be better, but this is the best I was gonna get

[errant oriole]

I was able to achieve 6:29 in the EDD and 8:09 in the DD this week with 2 separate teams. To my knowledge, these two times are world record times for both categories. Huge shoutout to all the wonderful players I got to run with: Qwsxedcrfv, Harlem512, H2, Handdrawnnerd, Kayabouilla, and Silaise !

missed the end screen cap for EDD but Q posted it above anyways

[peak reef]

very well played congrats to all

[glacial raven]

Video of the 6:29 available in #drg-videos message

all pov in description

[gusty girder]

Was really fun to do my first legitimate Speedrun, would highly recommend trying to find people to go fast with if anyone is interested in this sort of thing.

[flat briar]

I know ir

[fossil ruin]

Another fast EDD week. I don't think 6 minute fast, but definitely sub-10 again.

[minor helm]

I'm thinking the black box in stage 2 would probably knock this week out of contention with current wr

[spare brook]

@vale ravine I got a video up just for you

[spare brook]

partly my fault for not having a route planned, also there was a fuck ton of bugs. I definitely lost the most time stage 3

[alpine spear]

this is beautiful

[peak reef]

for anyone still trying to do drop pod clip but without a very good computer: lowering texture resolution gives me a noticable increase in success rate, in addition to lowering resolution in general but that ones a bit more annoying

i could do specific tests with different settings but its very noticable in my practice here that even lowering texture res is a big deal

considering that the timer pauses in solo runs when in the menus, probably worth looking into for anyone having trouble

[alpine spear]

just uncap framerate

[peak reef]

yes of course but im just saying that doing what i said boosted the chances of making it in

in my experience so far

[glacial raven]

High fps ,low settings , high ping help a lot

[alpine spear]

high ping is great. uncapped fps, all settings works for me. i use a 4090.

[slate roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ltjnGj4s0

Here is my Solo Run in this week Elite Deep Dive!

[whole heart]

you go into the drop pod

[peak reef]

Is that true

[errant oriole]

8:09 deep dive is in #drg-videos
links to other perspectives in the description

[round spruce]

wrong channel. ask in drg chat. that's your account level. you get 1 account level every 3 dwarf levels

[short ether]

Can anyone explain “the drop pod distance” trick for dorretta missions. I saw it mentioned that you can be a certain distance away as scout to have the drop pod fall onto molly so there is no travel time back to the pod?

[timid bridge]

you can have the scout run back to spawn to have the drop pod goes closer or you can have engi block off the tunnel into the omeron making it drop near there

[short ether]

Thank you much appreciated

[peak reef]

randoweisser, got a good build. sticky flame + subata with explosive reload, throwing axes. i think randoweisser would be significantly more interesting in a group instead of solo play, but i wanted to give it a try anyways and lucked out

the subata was mostly useless but it worked well enough i guess

sticky flame is obviously op and carried hard

i killed myself with the satchel multiple times due to increased aoe 👍

will be posting an actual decent run later on

[alpine spear]

im down for this

[alpine spear]

not as crazy as last week, box takes it out of the running

[cold widget]

I just play the game tbh

[halcyon field]

Yo guys, i'm trying to do the achievement deep diving in 45 min, someone to help me ? 🙂
Just DM me 🙂

[gritty cape]

@17:38 when you wrote "stage 2 uhghesilohfdsikolewhdwsdfszefghiosezf" I felt that.

[round egret]

what do you mean i dont need 600 nitra? how else am i going to leave all those resupplies for karl at the final drop pod...

[glacial raven]

For the deep dive speedrunner there is a new categorie that will open soon on speedrun.com related to deep dive, there is a poll going on for it you can find it on the DRG speedrun discord the discord is available here https://discord.com/channels/257785731072786435/367223080407531520

[alpine spear]

just post the link here?

[cunning sentinel]

very interested in class based solos, think it'll be much more fun to compete with other gunner/driller/engi times rather trying to go faster than a scout with pheros

[cunning sentinel]

could maybe have an any class category board if it was really wanted but i think class based categories will be good

[terse hollow]

I love goooooooold

[errant oriole]

if you dont run the new categories you asked for that makes you part of the problem

just letting you know in advance

better see some runs

if they add the category, i would hope you run it

[cunning sentinel]

yeah, that's why i think class based is fine

[errant oriole]

if you asked for multiclass cause scout only is stale and then they give you multiclass runs and then you still don't play it, then there is definitely an issue with the suggestion or the solution.

so im just saying i hope you play it once its out

[upper patio]

the most recent video on their channel is literally an engi edd speedrun
??????????????????????

[errant oriole]

damn thats so good

"an idea thats so solid, other people should do it, not me though, other players"

"i think other people would find it fun, not me though"

LMAO

hope the next upload is the same engi EDD with speedrun in the title

[alpine spear]

apparently my assumption of votes mattering may not be valid according to their server owner

doesnt matter either way, class based runs expands the pool of what to try each week

[alpine spear]

what rubbish, giving other ppl more options to compete is also important. Imagine if you were usain bolt and were arguing that only 100m/200m should be olympic events. other skillsets matter to speed"running" too

Because the hardest thing to do here apparently is add more categories to a website...

[errant oriole]

i am not arguing they shouldn't be categories, i am BEGGING people who ask for them to play them when the time comes

[alpine spear]

Begging and being sarcastic to ppl are different.

[errant oriole]

hope to see you submit some runs then too 👍 looking forward to it. personally super stoked if there are individual class options to route for those.

[alpine spear]

i try every week, im not good enough

[shadow marsh]

I mean people often have preferred classes, if someone mostly runs engie they'll definitely be interested in comparing runs to the engie category

Seems silly to suggest someone must like all categories to see that multiple categories would be a good idea

[next tapir]

Didn't really attempt a speedrun, let's call it a speedy run

[fierce timber]

So much for speedrun

[blazing edge]

Yeet

[fierce timber]

[opaque coral]

Had this same thing happen trying to run Escort

[fossil ruin]

Maaaan the Stingtail infuriates me so much. There needs to be a massive cooldown added between grabs. Imagine if a Grabber picked you up every 3 seconds

[devout swallow]

...

[next tapir]

Elite Grabber wants to know your EXACT location

Nevermind, he knows.

[next tapir]

Last stage was rough.. died 3x there. Need to get better with Mactera

[frosty cove]

Because of this, i classify stingtail as the most dangerous enemy type
A single stingtail even more dangerous than menace and on par with a single group of trijaws/slashers/spitters

[next tapir]

Stingtail on its own is fine, while it's on ground level with you. As soon as you hear it, it's #1 priority. No other mob does that

Problem is when it's slighty above you and just flings you back to the space station

Or into a Bulk Detonator..

[frosty cove]

Because its skill to relocate you to dangerous positions
Like higher up to drop you or into swarms
Their own dmg is alright, but their skill is very dangerous

Imagine your teammate make a stronghold, then stingtails immediately pull your driller/engi/gunner into middle of swarms at same time

Bulk is indeed scary, but they're slow and mostly still melee aoe

Well, even your on thought agree to just nerf them, lmao

Their physic is already like that
Long grab and large angle

And really fast long grab

[next tapir]

I tested if Dash can fuck up the pull animation, and it absolutely does. The pull retains the extra momentum from Dash which is completely fucked up

[next tapir]

That and the fact that 1 pixel is enough and it'll pull you from behind a Resupply Pod

[frosty cove]

Dont forget, also their weakpoint is covered by armor
A group of stingtails with its swarm would finish your team if you wont take them down from long range or with some tactical plans

Pretty much

[next tapir]

And people say armour breaking* is useless. :clueless:

[frosty cove]

Before stingtail, kinda
Depend on your playstyle

After stingtail, i began planning to add armor break *upgrades for some weps now

[next tapir]

I like armour breaking on T4 for Autocannon with Big Bertha because it strips Praetorians faster than me on date night

[frosty cove]

Lol

[fossil ruin]

The Stingtail has completely altered speedrunning. You can’t bank on iron will the same way. You can have 3+ stingtails attacking you at once, and if you Iron Will to push the drop pod button or resupply, it won’t work specifically because of their rapid attack/recharge speed.

Heightened senses doesn’t do anything, either, so it forces you to ignore your objective and kill them first.

[fierce timber]

Well, here was my time on that run from earlier despite the stingtail
(Playthrough now in #drg-videos )

[next tapir]

Yumm, you almost mined nothing haha

What's the play for solo driller? Cryo gamer?

[fierce timber]

Yeah, Cryo with max freezing + EPC mining

[next tapir]

Was thinking Snowball + Persistent Plasma for this week's EDD

[fierce timber]

Could be fun, I think sludgepump would also be viable

[next tapir]

Sludgeblast?

🤔

Needs good direct damage to deal with Mactera & Stingtails

[opaque coral]

Or just reroll the map again and pray it’s not in the spawn pool

Which is what I do for my runs

Grabbers in map? Instant abort

[signal garden]

????

[minor helm]

mmm yes, death is the best solution
do you mind me asking what strategies have you found for solo that works best against them? To me it seems that one of the better combinations is armor break and stun. From when I played around with it in sandbox, Stunner Warthog and BRT with stun and both with armor break did really well against stingtails.

[peak reef]

i run a lot of vim sludge and its solid against there combined with an axe to stun

you can usually kill them before they get out of the stun, or at least get them very low

its also good because sludge can melt them while you line of sight a bit

satchls also very effective but thats pretty obvious, i consider them basically S+ tier threat so im willing to use whatever

[minor helm]

i like that driller has several options to deal with them. My favorite interaction has to be using the drills to stop it from grabbing

[polar osprey]

Hey!, I'm not very aware of what happens to people here in the chat, but a few months ago someone always uploaded a list of the details of each stage of the DD, what happened that it is no longer there? 😦

[minor helm]

the pinned message in #deep-dive-discussion should help answer your question.

[upper patio]

if you have persistent plasma EPC, the stingtail's grab also cannot go through the persist plasma - it'll retract as soon as it contacts it

i've found executioner to be extremely effective against them if you can angle the shots into the top weakpoint, the extra armor break lok1 gets by default really helps

[peak reef]

ab lsls absolutely demolishes them

seems decent enough to me honestly

ive used it

hellfire is more than good enough for hordes and fear spam

also, new pbm is a really good option

which is something i like to use anyways depending on mission types

solo gunner is just a bit odd in general but its pretty fun

i get extremely bored using it

[upper patio]

pbm is far more mobile than lsls, ignores armor and stuns, lets u keep attacking during reloads, plus hurricane doesn't have spinup

id expect minelayer to be quite good if you're not dealing with dreadnaughts too, you can generally just run into crowds of bugs holding m1 and it'll kill everything

[peak reef]

minelayer works pretty well yeah, probably not very good this week though

[upper patio]

my own experience with minelayer & stingtails is that i never realized the stingtail was there until i hear a voiceline saying the stingtail died

[peak reef]

ohi ts great against stingtails, but the problem is mactera plague and hiveguard s3 this week

mactera plague workable ofc

but hiveguard annoying

[upper patio]

hellfire absolutely hard counters mactera plague but then you have no option for hiveguard yeah

pbm hellfire sounds quite promising though

[peak reef]

dreads throw a wrench into a lot of solo speed stuff which does make it interesting

[upper patio]

probably worth figuring out how to throw leadbursters behind the dread too, does a lot of damage especially if you have a resupply to burn

[peak reef]

yeah ofc

[unique thistle]

after:

[spare brook]

not a very speedy run this week

[slate roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcp06-S_4YM

Here is the Elite Deep Dive from this week!
Returning to the ol' Gunner business

[zinc void]

how long does it take to get this https://i.imgur.com/pAQniRh.jpeg

[slate roost]

Reach Level 10

[zinc void]

is there a fast way to do that ?

[slate roost]

Playing the game

More hardest difficulty the more you get to level

[zinc void]

so just join hard mode and get carried ?

been playing on easy

[alpine spear]

just get good

[zinc void]

but thats hard

[alpine spear]

so is life

[frosty cove]

Harder difficulty indeed give more exp credits + mats bonus
But remember, its "harder"
If you failed, the rewards also lowered to -50%

The point is, the missions need to be ALWAYS smooth and succesful
Train your reflex on haz 2 first, then you can extensively farm haz 3, then beyond if you feel bored on previous easy hazard

If you follow dwarf manners + do your objective quickly, finish the mission quickly
You can farm stuff quickly too
Just ignore golds except for richual

Haz 3 sometimes give more rewards than haz 5 if you got lucky cave generation

[zinc void]

How much faster exp woukd there be losing a bunch of highest difficulty instead of finishing a handful of easys

[frosty cove]

The rewards of 5 winning haz 2 missions cant match a 5 losing haz 5 missions

If you losing, the reward punishment is just to great

But if you bored on easy hazard, always up the hazard level for some training + entertainment

[normal marlin]

Who’s got the fastest record here, just curious

[alpine spear]

silaise miligin kaya and 1 other

i dont remember their names cause one was gibberish

[normal marlin]

I’m guessing the time is somewhere under like 30 minutes

[alpine spear]

its 6 mins something for edd

and 8 mins something for dd i believe

[glacial raven]

6:29 for EDD 8:09 for DD

[surreal sun]

53minute (half trio, other half squad) edd, were so good 🥲

[opaque coral]

@glacial raven Solo times?

I may be interested to run deep dives at some point

[glacial raven]

it's 4 people time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-OtRsmfSvs

you can see how it looks x)

[spare brook]

Best solo is probably my time at 12:59 for edd. Idk about for the dd tho. I don’t really run dd seriously

[opaque coral]

Hmmm

I did some tutorial runs today Okayge

[spare brook]

You close to the record?

[opaque coral]

Besides Legacy records

I beat it, though there’s only 1 run listed

Got a 3:24

[spare brook]

Damn that’s pretty good. I don’t remember what legacy was, but anything close to that is good. That legacy run was like fully optimized

[opaque coral]

Legacy is iirc sub 2 min

But that’s on update 25…? I think

And it wasn’t seeded from what I looked in too

[spare brook]

Im not sure what you mean. I’m pretty sure tutorial is always seeded. The seed just changed a tiny bit

Oh ig you mean the old old ones. Idk about those

[opaque coral]

In the legacy times yeah

But now it’s always the same

[spare brook]

I haven’t looked that far back. I’ve just seen the milli one

[opaque coral]

Mili’s changed not so much, just some zip angles

Also getting sweet tooth speed boost isn’t really possible unless you take fall damage

[spare brook]

oh shit you right. I need to go watch that one, Idk if I ever saw it

and no fov modifications allowed for official runs

[fossil ruin]

my older deep dives did. I haven't used the FOV mod in a long time. All my submitted runs on speedrun show the mods and i've never used it for an official run

I have no idea how that works. I've uninstalled/reinstalled the game probably 5 times within the past month. I tried a mod where it changed the difficulty to haz 6+ and it completely messed up my game. And I'm fairly sure I got rid of the fov mod long before that

Hmmm. Not sure what's going on with that then. Looks like I'm not submitting anymore runs then lol that's really dumb. I uninstalled every mod, uninstalled the game, verified the files, etc.

[ornate river]

Huge

[junior vessel]

Supp guys I m kinda knew, and I m interested in how you guys could teach me maybe for a speed run, I have a bronze 2 stars gunner and the others are one star. If someone looking for one more in the team or just show me the way I would be really interested. Thanks a lot, in dm please

[wide star]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/14w8ogn/somewhat_new_to_the_game_about_150_hours_is_this/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1

Not my post, but this guy found some tech that he said "works 100% of the time in solo"

[peak reef]

seems very interesting, would have to test to see how little digging you'd have to do to make this viable because he spent a very long time setting this up in this clip

the minute he spent digging is almost definitely longer than the time it would take on the vast majority of missions, even on engi, to get back to the drop pod

[wide star]

I'd guess if you dig enough space to fit molly and get her stuck, it would work. And if you got it to work consistently in multiplayer, a driller could just dig for a few seconds.

[peak reef]

that's my guess, yeah

ill test later

[wide star]

It'd probably have to be 100% airtight though, Molly's the main poi

She'll just walk through a mouse hole to escape lol

[peak reef]

yeah definitely

[peak reef]

she does seem to pretty often climb directly through a solid platform

i got it to work a few times but its not very consistent for me at all

[minor helm]

That's very interesting, just tried and got it 3 times all ready

[peak reef]

i think it has a lot to do with how much space there is beneath the ceiling

every time i driler c4 the ground and then platform it up, it works

[fossil ruin]

You can also just block the dirt path with a couple platforms. Say you’re doing a morkite mission and are in the bottom room. If you block the dirt path and press the button, it should come down in the bottom room

[peak reef]

but if i dig straight down as engi and then plat, it wont work

yeah ive tested that, you can turn basically any small natural forming pit and make it work for this too

[fossil ruin]

You can also do the dirt path strategy by using a resupply pod to block the path. Doesn’t always work, but it has a similar effect

[minor helm]

i wonder how this will behave in a multiplayer setting? host in the hole vs host outside the hole

[ancient topaz]

Does dp clip still work the same way (molly side)?

Have only seen year-old vids

[spare brook]

yep

I'm excited to see some good engi seeded runs. Engi could already teleport to later parts of the cave by clipping out of bounds and now with this engi doesn't need to worry about the pod. Optimized engi runs could be pretty fast

[alpine spear]

step 1 would be trying to play regular missions as fast as possible - sub 10 mins is a good goal

[trail mason]

oops

[rich vortex]

Stage 3 was really dumb, how did you manage to do it so quick?

Stage 3 alone made up for over half of the time it took me to do the EDD

That was easily the worst mactera plague mission I've done

[spare brook]

I don't remember what my splits were exactly, but I think I lost the most time on stage 3 too. I made it bearable by calling in a resuply at the start and almost constantly having pheromones going while I repaired the mules. Hipster also takes out the mactera pretty quick

[rich vortex]

Yeah, I'd imagine pheromones helped a lot

I spent a lot of time killing the mactera. I should have tried to ignore them a little more, but I didn't have pheromone grenades, so I was playing a lot safer

[spare brook]

yea pheromones is a must for this dive

this one wasn't blind bc I went in the first time with cryo and got bullied stage 2 trying to take the blackbox during a swarm. Then I swapped to pheromones and it was a breeze

[rich vortex]

I wasn't courageous enough to do that lol. I just finished off the aquarqs while waiting for the swarm to end

[rich vortex]

Indeed

[peak reef]

this week not looking super great for runs 😔

edd might have some potential depending on osr layout i suppose but i usually assume those missions will suck lol

[fierce timber]

Attempted blind run on EDD, it was pretty tough, especially stage 3, but I think I did alright, wish I had managed sub 30 though.

Playthrough in #drg-videos

[next cave]

dang this EDD is really fast

[fierce timber]

Yeah, aside from last stage, you could do this really fast, especially as scout if you know where to go for eggs & aquarks immediately

[peak reef]

last stage layout is actually not bad at all

happy with this one

bit hectic but as far as actual pipes go its good

[next cave]

Is there a mod for labbing out the deep dive map

[next tapir]

Jesus Christ this one was chill until Stage 3

[rich vortex]

How bad is the cave on stage 3 for a solo scout?

Azure Weald can have some pretty bad refinery cave gens

[round egret]

i was warned that it would be hard and i did not listen

[round egret]

cavegen is fine, didn't really need to drill

[minor helm]

the wells aren't too bad to get to, and jetty boots can help with the swarmers

[rich vortex]

Ah, that's good

[silk laurel]

[hushed storm]

blind with randoms

[terse hollow]

is that shirtless thing a mod...? because if its not I want it

[torn kindle]

Humina humina 🥵

[tacit sundial]

massive respect for the speedrunners here because i do not see myself doing even a single mission as quickly as y'all 😭
king shit

[turbid jolt]

Even with Neurotoxin Payload its still really difficult, respect to those who even complete it

[fierce timber]

Surprised no one's beat my 31 min solo blind run yet, I bet with optimizations you could cut it down way more

[slate roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqDBP1sTmSc

I really enjoyed this one!

[opaque coral]

Carried

[cold widget]

level 1451? 😭

[pulsar marlin]

KDR check

[opaque coral]

Downs check

Also Beni yoinked the 4 egg 😔

[pulsar marlin]

yeah I cba

[peak reef]

praying to stop getting elite grabbers stage 2 🙏

[upper patio]

elite grabbers such a bs enemy

[fierce timber]

Elite grabbers: I am speed

[peak reef]

if i were an elite grabber my runs would be insane

alas i am a poor gunner

[peak reef]

7:19
14:37
24:54
gonna play the rest of the week as driller but thought id give gunner a real try

[warped turtle]

nope. must have speeb

[weak dust]

not really that fast but a blind run on the EDD and only the 2nd on the DD

also not solo btw

[terse hollow]

Took us 4 tries, but the greenbeards were persistent

They deserve a lot of credit for that

[cold widget]

can you nly get the rewards once per character per week

[daring slate]

maybe not the fastest time ever but we certainly had the most fun ;)

[amber vine]

omg im a greenbeard and i thought that 7k gold was good in one run

that's a lot

[alpine spear]

this is dd/edd

[cloud berry]

Great

[fading escarp]

core rewards are once per player per week for the dd/edd/core hunt, 9 total potential cores per refresh

each class gets a set of three rewards on promotion, which is completed independently

[alpine spear]

yeah its far less grindy these days than in the past for cores

[vernal palm]

Respecc

[peak reef]

elite threat extremely rude for cryo 😔 ✊

[opal patrol]

Those mactera where killer

[river forge]

You look like a grunt from halo

[next tapir]

I'm going for Roy Batty from Blade Runner but good enough

[daring slate]

i see it :D

[slender wyvern]

is forcing drop pod location helpful for speedruns?

[verbal frost]

<@&296918282403840000> sus link
Posted in every channel

[opaque coral]

Yes!

[valid patio]

What driller build did you run?

[valid patio]

How do you force its location? Is it not predetermined in all DDs/eDDs?

[peak reef]

end drop pod location is based on a few things, it has to access (ie: not through any walls) and is a certain distance from you based on where you hit the button at the end

you can force a drop pod location by blocking up a dirt tunnel with engi plats for example

since the path is not viable, itll spawn in your room

[valid patio]

Wow, I did not know that at all.

That would make life so much easier

Mainly on morkite or elim missions

[peak reef]

i believe the distance is 150~ meters (straight line) unless it cannot go that far, it wont like land inside a wall just to reach that distance

on morkite missions at least

this also allows you predict where a drop pod will most likely land on most mission types you can usually get pretty close by just running in the direction thats furthest from where you called molly

[valid patio]

How far is 150m in game? Like 1 big cave, or several

[peak reef]

uhh it really depends, you could get a morkite mission where its basically just a giant tunnel straight to the top, id say its usually 2 caves worth

also when you get more than 1 player that are standing in different locations, drop pod location becomes wonky at times and im not sure if its fully understood how to manipulate that exactly

as an example if you have 2 players on different sides of the map, the drop pod might land directly next to one

or it might land somewhere in the middle

[valid patio]

I know I've manipulated the drop pod landing on dotty missions, but its the only one I knew how to do

But it can be inconsistent, in that it will land beside someone, or beside no one

[peak reef]

#deep-dive-speedrunning message

example of a way to abuse this

this can be done wayyy faster when combined with a driller but its a good way to visualize how the logic works, there is no viable path to any drop pod location at all so it just falls on you lol

[valid patio]

Wow thats a pretty crazy 'exploit'

[round egret]

it needs to be oil shale

[valid patio]

I wonder if you try that with a team, and have multiple players outside the hole, where it'll spawn

[peak reef]

thats the inconsistent part, even if you have all the players inside the hole sometimes it doesnt work

it appears to be 100% consistent solo

not sure about the mechanics there at all

[valid patio]

Might do some research into that

I'm yet to get a sub 1hr EDD speed run solo, maybe this could help

[peak reef]

https://i.imgur.com/BbmGOg6.jpeg so before i blocked off the wall, i called the pod using sandbox utilities

as you can see, 150 m

https://i.imgur.com/0A5dg85.jpeg

with wall blocked, spawned right next to me

sorry for septic spreader. he wasnt interested in my screenshot

it might help, but i think you'd do a lot better to focus on just speeding up pace a bit, bring the strongest build you can and just give it a few goes and learn where everything is

this wont save nearly enough time to make a big difference and on some levels it wont matter at all

[round egret]

320 nitra is a very generous amount for any EDD

any more than that is time waste

[valid patio]

I know I spend wayy too much time on non objective side quests, I will never know how much nitra is enough, always too much or too little.
I also know I don't utilise bosco as much as I should.
Easy for me to call out what I'm doing wrong, not as easy for me to act on it in game

[peak reef]

very fair

[round egret]

that's the other thing too, there's no loot in deep dives

uNlEsS yOu CoUnT gOlD i GuEsS

and the occasional hoarder

[peak reef]

for me my rule of thumb, if i have no other plans, is to use a single resupply on both stages 2 and 3, while not using one on s1

its obviously better to go more than that if you're not confident

no reason to die because you didnt want to go for a second resupply on s3 or something

[valid patio]

I've gottan sub 1hr on DDs, but EDDs I find I'm spending so much time killing enemys, so I need more nitra, then I will see gold beside it, give it a few smacks, which will definitely add up to far too much time not focused on objective

[peak reef]

but for this week for example (havent played it yet), id get 80 nitra between stages 2 and 3 somewhere, use the 80 from the 2 minimules on s1 for s2 resupply and work to get 1 resupply on the refuel on s3 and the final area on s3; if nitra is easy to get its worth getting ofc

[round egret]

class choice matters too i would say, i usually check the missions here and pick accordingly

[peak reef]

yeah, gunner is actually a great choice because it offers a ton of safety and killing power, its by no means fast but truthfully the easiest way to get a decent time on any edd is to kill fast and not go down

[round egret]

gunner is basically mandatory for escort duty, i feel

[valid patio]

Would engie not be a better choice for escort?

[peak reef]

it helps a lot but theres always the question of how much time you lose on the other stages

[round egret]

gunner with all the AoE upgrades on shield gives you full protection to repair a chunk of durability

engi's good too but don't have that breathing room if it goes south

[peak reef]

yeah the shield thing saved my ass a lot of times in escort duties that went wrong lol

[peak reef]

i think focusing on bosco really sped my game up by a lot when i started focusing on it

[valid patio]

Ok I'll give it a go a leave my results here, but I am a bit worried about the escort mission

[daring slate]

cryo with enhanced flow rate overclock and pistol with extended mag.

id tell you specifics but im not home and wont be avaliable for most of the day

[valid patio]

No problem, I was just wondering what primary and secondary mainly. Thanks

[valid patio]

Well I managed to be done in less than an hour

[daring slate]

you only did stage 1 and 2?

[valid patio]

Yeah. Got fucked by a cave leech in stage 3, 2nd phase of the Ddzr and then I lost 2 sides of dotty, then lost the last one stage 2 of the heart stone.