deep-dive-discussion

[lime dirge]

Yeah I always go cryo in edd

Unless rival presence

It's funny how versitile the ice is btw

Good for almost every situation

[hoary cove]

it’s hard to justify taking it imo

flamer is just leagues faster so it’s hard to pass up unless theyr are also dreads

[lime dirge]

I mean, is it? Frozen bugs are effectively dead anyway lol

They can die from a moskito breathing on them

[hoary cove]

was specifically talking about rival presence since that’s what phat rat was talking about

cryo is pretty much objectively the worst driller weapon for robots imo

aiming ice spear is way harder then just deleting a patrol bot in like 3 seconds

[lime dirge]

Oh

In that case, yeah ur right

Absolutely

[timber panther]

Unless you're doing the uplink, any bulk can be a blessing in disguise if you're a certified pro gamer.

[severe tusk]

Thankfully the host did not crash in my second EDD attempt, and our random group got it done. It was one of the more spicier EDDs in quite a while though. Sludge Driller is a decent choice to slow down dreads and the ghost, since there's not a lot of open spaces.

[old widget]

Agreed, I ran boreotoxin and driller ran sludge in my EDD with randos and basically nothing moved

[wraith shard]

God i hate i hate i hate mf shield disruption, in the worst mf biome, with the worst mf objectives. Damn this sucks ass

What an ungodly combination

[zealous pond]

also fighting three dreads in the biome with the least open space of any of them

[tacit jungle]

shield disruption is a skill check just like low oxygen is an IQ test

[wraith shard]

Shield disruption in this edd is like the equivalent to doing a jousting match without armor, while your horse is holding still

[hollow citrus]

hollow bough always has the spiciest DDs

this week's was ok except for stage 3 which was annoying

[stone fractal]

I got Hiveguard/Glyphid both times

[tacit marsh]

Why does this game crash during stage 3 of a EDD 🙃

This is like the 3rd time

[wraith shard]

This weeks edd is just evil

[unkempt saffron]

stage 3 is great for dying from:
a) falling
b) unexpected rko from horror

[severe tusk]

It's definitely not newer player friendly.

[wraith shard]

Hoverboots, dash
Maybe might work

[unkempt saffron]

hoverboots is aight for scout maybe

[wraith shard]

Yeah i felt really bad when i had to kick a low level player that joined last second

[unkempt saffron]

dash id say is a must have for the edd

regardless, for stage 3 id just say becareful when going down the main cave

[wraith shard]

Hoverboots is neigh essential for gunner when either exploring or more especially using ziplines to avoid swarms/traverse

The last thing a gunner wants is to be knocked off a zipline by mactera and fall without hoverboots

Coming from an all gunner main

[unkempt saffron]

its better for scout honestly, at least with him you can grapple away after activating hover, with gunner if you dont time your hover correctly its just you falling down to the ground

[wraith shard]

Well yeah, thats why you use it correctly

[unkempt saffron]

id just run dash and iw/fm for gunner and the rest of the classes

[wraith shard]

Without it its just always falling to the ground

Whats iw and fm

[unkempt saffron]

iron will and field medic

[wraith shard]

Ah yeah tried that in a practice mission before trying edd and it was miserable being swarmed by bugs galore and not being able to dash away or jump off a nearby cliff and hoverboot for escape

For me, no point in iron will if i dont die since im always able to get away from the bugs and no point in field medic if i reserve my shields for revives instead of using it trying to helplessly defend myself from a surrounding swarm

Idk about the other classes, as i only play gunner

[carmine copper]

any one wanna jump on an EDD? am driller

[wraith shard]

My brain too tired to play properly rn, but I'll prob giv another try tomorrow

[severe tusk]

I like Dash a lot, but I used field medic instead and did fine. I have never used hoverboots.

[wraith shard]

When i use the dash hoverboot shield revive combo then theres never a need for field medic for me

Mate dies across the cave while I'm near the ceiling giving support fire from above, i just jump off zip, hoverboot, dash to fallen mate, shield, revive, done. And theres many ways to remix this application.

Mate dies from falling off a cliff? Dash to edge dodging bugs, jump off said cliff, hoverboot, shield, revive.

Mate dies to detonator/ghost? Jump off zip, hoverboot, shield, revive, then dash tf outa there

Etc

With the dash hoverboot combo i always tend to end up reviving teammates the most

[dim wigeon]

This week is a dreadnought fest

[solemn vine]

what loadouts to use for scout on this weeks EDD? i have aggressive venting, thermal cooling for DRAK and Hipster for M1k

[vestal tapir]

how bad is this weeks edd to solo

[severe tusk]

Hipster is pretty much always great, and there are a lot of dreads.

[wraith shard]

Make sure bosco has as many revives as possible

[atomic prawn]

hipster tbh, triple elims lol

[solemn vine]

i feel like swarm clear suffers with hipster

[blazing current]

Drak could be better for swarm clearing, I planned to run bouncy drak with cryo boltshark

[open ginkgo]

Does it still one shot grunts with the weakpoint?

[blazing current]

only if you take weakpoint bonus instead of super blowthrough

[solemn vine]

yeah, but having a tonne of bugs rush me at haz 5 speeds makes weakpoint hard too. skill issue ik

i was thinking AV Drak with maybe taser bolt shark

[blazing current]

Taser is fine I think, a lot of swarms in stage 2 and especially early stage 3

[solemn vine]

im nearly always on IFG grenades, might try again with cryo

[echo storm]

drak opa with nuk 15 cryo minelets

tried and true combo!!

[zealous pond]

hey people, what build i should use for driller EDD?

[weary blaze]

Definitely crispr, and microwave gun combo.

[zealous pond]

i though sludge would make easier

especially stage 3 with haunted cave

or no?

[bleak wharf]

alot of people say sludge for this edd

[static flame]

What's an Elite Deep Dive

[zealous pond]

sludge
22121 hydrogen
wave
32111 gamma

[bleak wharf]

a deep dive but elite

[zealous pond]

seems to be best option, for slowdown

[elder pecan]

how is this weeks EDD?

[grave jacinth]

Pretty brutal

Cave gen is unforgiving

[bleak wharf]

driller helps alot

[grave jacinth]

Yeah. I cleared a lot when we tried it, but it was still pretty overwhelming. May give it another go before Thursday just for the hell of it

[bleak wharf]

good luck if u do try again

[grave jacinth]

Thanks! Probably not worth the mineral cores, but I'd like to conquer it just because it's a difficult week

[whole wagon]

what is a good build for scout EDD ?

[bleak wharf]

m1k dps build cuz of dreads maybe

[whole wagon]

okk thanks

[scarlet shoal]

I think having to deal with hordes for main objectives on top of non-optional dreadnaughts in this EDD especially considering its H4/H5 difficulty is sheer BS. Gotta bring horde clear as well as dps loadouts which are usually inefficient as all hell because Hiveguard and Classic Dread only have a limited dps window after you take down their weakpoints or else they regenerate and you need to waste tons of ammo breaking classic's shell or killing hivguard's summons 🤔

Solo is very problematic here imo since you drop in 1 shot regardless and bosco has limitted revives. If cave generation is bad then you need specific classes to "fix" the map. Teamplay seems like the only option unless Scout probably since he can juke everything

[raven grove]

EDD isn’t meant to be easy

[scarlet shoal]

I know it isn't but this feels like super imbalanced. Outside of deepdives the objectives are optional but here they're not and I think this is a sign of something that might need a slight rebalancing

[wraith shard]

I agree, this week is kinda bait with the dreads on each stage. You should bring really good AOE/ swarm clear imo, the Dreads were the least difficult thing. I just completed the EDD Gunner solo with Fragmentation Missiles + Lead Spray brt, took me over 1,5 hrs 💀 but I'm glad I had my AOE hurricane with me, the regular waves and swarms were spicy

[scarlet shoal]

Still on the RNG grind for better overclocks to get my builds optimized for killing dreadnaughts 😔

[fathom hound]

It's possible with solo driller

Just a slog due to the dreads

Spent over an hour on this one

[wraith shard]

Good luck for the hunt hope you get something decent

[raven grove]

Man, I think you guys are nuts for playing DRG solo, but more power to you.

[scarlet shoal]

Considering some objectives are on the ceiling and not all classes can casually just get up there (aquarqs!!!), Bosco is like the reason to solo lol

Bosco saves ammo for killing Swarmers too 😔 🙏

[raven grove]

I prefer not to play without a full team, so I rarely have that issue.

I’ll drop a resupply pod through a ceiling egg occasionally, though.

[scarlet shoal]

As long as each player can fulfill each role, they cover all problems.

coordinated teamplay is still optimal and best, its just that I'm too ashamed and filled with anxiety to ask/insist other players conform to roles they may not enjoy partaking in even if its to "win"

[raven grove]

I have a good mic and I’ll frequently go through whole missions without saying anything at all. Coordination is that good.

And I’m talking randoms here. I don’t have a group.

Used to have a group, but now we’re doing Stellaris instead.

[scarlet shoal]

I mean in EDD its expected for people to know what their class role does. Problem with me would be the weapons/loadouts cuz everyone bringing single-target stuff would be a nightmare on the ammo economy

also not being 1 of each class just in-case lol

[raven grove]

Yep, though I almost always take flame driller on EDDs because it’s my best and favorite build.

[scarlet shoal]

Yep. But tell me, would you be able to hit the dps check of Classic/Hiveguard Dreadnaughts without running out of ammo lol

[raven grove]

And 1 sticky flame driller can wipe swarms if the rest of the team is taking out the big stuff.

No, for dreads that build has to rely on axes and berserker.

It works, but poorly.

[odd ginkgo]

Will a regular solo build work for deep dives?

I play scout

[scarlet shoal]

Everyone has a comfort build, and Dreadnaught objectives are least on the mind of anyone making a general purpose loadout lol. I only see hyper specialized dreadnaught killers in Dreadnaught missions. I'd bring one myself but I don't have the OC's

[raven grove]

Though TBH, a classic ice storm build would work fine for both.

Or AOE big bertha, which is the only gunner build I actually like

That’s decent to good at everything, with the ammo to back it up.

And it feels good to use, nice and chunky.

[wicked siren]

I call poison aoe gunner the nurgle special

[raven grove]

21221BB thunderhead is a fun all-rounder.

Hellfire coilgun being the secondary I use with it.

[hexed crystal]

I am the

[hexed crystal]

Uhh which poison gun

[wicked siren]

The unstable overclock for the thunder cannon

[hybrid inlet]

Neurotoxin payload

[weary blaze]

Be careful miners, there are Legendary 3 people out there who won't stand in the blackbox radius on the regular dd,
let 'em know it goes slower with less people in the radius.

[lavish dirge]

anything I should keep in mind on this weeks EDD?

[worn bramble]

go relatively fast, bring stuff for CC and single target, and don't be stupid

definitely tackle dreads first on first stage at least

[lavish dirge]

fair enough

[hexed crystal]

You dont have a choice you need to kill dreads before starting the refinery

[worn bramble]

well yes but what i mean is that as soon as you get out of the drop pod start setting up for a dread fight rather than setting up pipes

[hexed crystal]

There's no difference

[scarlet oar]

because lag would always hold me back when joining deep dives of other dwarves,

I decided to solo the EDD

for my first time solo'ing, it went pretty smooth

took me an hour because I'm not that skilled, but I pulled through

[peak canyon]

I kinda find driller useless unless he can drill the resources with his drill

[unkempt saffron]

is clicking on rmb too much to ask now?

[peak canyon]

it's just an opinion, no need to be drg white knight about it :D, I assumed the driller can drill through normal walls very fast, and also collect nitra and morkrite with the drill very fast

[hollow estuary]

Damn just finished the EDD. Wtf ghost games y u do dis

[hoary cove]

i have never been so offended by a statement about a video game

[sly sky]

Me and my friend got to the last stage of the deep dive and died while trying to take out the hiveguard. These are sad times we are in

[jolly hazel]

ever played salvage? lol

or refining

[raven grove]

Or literally any mission

[hybrid inlet]

alternative: Epc's Thin containment field

[flat moth]

I'm a greenbeard and I heard this week's EDD is very hard

haven't tried it, only done the regular DD

[frail sorrel]

yeah, EDD this week isn't fun

failed twice on it because we had three specialty swarms in a row; mactera, grunts, and then praets

and then a bulk said hi on try #2

[flat moth]

I'll just skip and pretend I would have gotten bad OCs anyway

[fathom hound]

Yeah EDD is perfectly reasonable to skip this week

[subtle valley]

honestly as someone who spent 12 attempts and 9 hours worth of time

just skip it

i doubt most have even completed it who'v attempted

[surreal inlet]

yeah stage 1 EDD isnt that bad
setup refinery, fight twins, activate refinery, get outta there
stage 2 sucks and i hate it
i know i can do it, but its just everything in a room

[fathom hound]

Stage 2 was just rng hell

Regarding terrain gen and wave spawns

[surreal inlet]

from the few times ive been there its been relatively the same
like 4 spitballers, a breeder, a few cave leeches, brood nexuses, and of course the cocoon is in the fucking middle of it all so you really have to be careful

but just the wave spawns alone were just a lot

[tall kraken]

i cant even get past stage 1 of the EDD

and i was in a lobby with other peeps

who were half-decent

shield disruption is such a pain

[surreal inlet]

yeah i ended up getting through it by trial and error
just chipping away at it slowly, akin to how hollow bough chips at your health

[hexed night]

are elite deep dive rewards the same as normal ?

[surreal inlet]

ye

[tall kraken]

oh hey monsuta

[hexed night]

yos

[tall kraken]

based artist AND gamer

sick as hell

anyways

EDDs painful

[hexed night]

can't be that bad

right

right ?

[tall kraken]

stage 3 gets to hazard 5.5

and considering the first 2 stages already are harsh

stage 3 being haunted cave this time is hell

[surreal inlet]

considering stage 3 has haunted cave, i'd say stage 1 is the easiest because how much of a clusterfuck stage 2 is

[tall kraken]

i was hoping to god stage 2 would be the easiest bc of not having shield disruption anymore-

or does it still have shield disruption

please god tell me it doesnt go for 2 missions in a row

[surreal inlet]

no its no mutators
it just throws everything at you at once

[tall kraken]

ah

better than shield disruption being active imo

id rather not get breathing room than not get regenerating 'hp'

[surreal inlet]

ig
but because the dread cocoon is in the direct middle you really have to be careful to not hit it

[tall kraken]

oogh

ic

that sounds sucky yeah

is there a decent bit of nitra in stage 2 at least?

[surreal inlet]

its just a lot of enemies and a lot of types of enemies

[surreal inlet]

its salvage so you already get a bit from that, but theres also a decent bit from what ive seen

[tall kraken]

gooood to know

maybe with a competent non-supply-pod-chugging team ppl could easily stock up for stage 3

(the team i went with chugged every supply pod they could stage 1)

(because "healing")

[surreal inlet]

we really arent nitra- starved for this edd but theres a lot to fight so you do burn ammo quick

[tall kraken]

i wanna get the uhh

plasma carbine overclock that gives ammo back for overheating i think?

[surreal inlet]

backfeeding module?

i think

[tall kraken]

idk the overclocks by name, just function

but yeah, i want it cuz it seems like it's good for lots n lots of enemies

[surreal inlet]

i have the overclocks page on the wiki bookmarked

[tall kraken]

all of the scout overclocks ive gotten so far have been for the crossbow, zhukov, boomstick, literally-just-garand, and gk2

[surreal inlet]

but half my bookmarks are wikis anyway lol

[tall kraken]

0 overclocks for plasma 😭

and since i use gk2 and plasma the most, i want my plasma to at least keep up with my gk2

[surreal inlet]

same for me but with hurricane
i just want something for it

[tall kraken]

i got like 3 zhukov and crossbow overclocks before i got a single boomstick overclock

and it was jumbo shells

(kinda nice but not my thing bc of low ammo)

[surreal inlet]

yeah i also like getting high ammo efficiency
lets my engi friend be less consious of his shard diffractor ammo

[tall kraken]

ive been running double-barrel on the boomstick, it's goooooooooooooooooooood-

blowthrough rounds make it good tho

without that it'd be mid

[surreal inlet]

i like the nuk17s for scout secondary
because i run the m1 garrand

good for dumping the clip to get a speedboost and get outta there to reposition

[tall kraken]

mm, fair fair

might use zhukov more again

ive got cryo minelets on it

[surreal inlet]

yeah i want that for them
currently im running an OCless build for scout because ove got none for m1 or nuk 17s

[tall kraken]

dang

ig my favorite thing about plasma is not needing to be hitting weak spots 24/7 to put in chip dmg

[surreal inlet]

eh, its ok
im not too big on playing scout, i like them the least personally

my fav thing about the m1 is the focus shot ragdoll knoackback
its amazing

i dont like the drak 25 much for a weird reason
it fires too fast for the damage it deals, if that makes any sense at all?

[tall kraken]

for me the drak feels like the minigun on gunner minus the windup and with a smaller ammo pool, AND slower bullet travel

[surreal inlet]

i basically wanna trade RoF for damage

[tall kraken]

AND it doesnt get blowthrough

unlike m1

[surreal inlet]

ive been running cryo driller for this EDD
not using any overclocks because snowball is my only overclock for it
and i see why people call the cryo cannon very strong
cause that breif freeze on the lacerator allows for some insane burst dmg

it also lets me be stupid and use my imact axe like a melee weapon, killing myself in the process

[cyan fog]

just tried edd with sticky flame, ass beat on the second stage. ima switch to cryo for this next try

[potent vector]

use sludge instead

great for dreads, can slow down the ghost, great against swarmers

[hoary cove]

i did edd with sludge blast and mega power supply

[regal mango]

it can slow the ghost??

[potent vector]

yes, all slows work on the ghost

electricity, neurotoxin, sludge

[cyan fog]

ended up as gunner on a 4 man, that edd was fucking brutal

[stone fractal]

I died to the twin dreadnoughts on the first stage

[surreal plank]

same, team of level 20s thought itd be great to run all gunners, with what i believe no ocs, did not end well. over ran by 2 dreadnaughts in the first 5 minutes

[mental urchin]

maybe try overtuner particle accelerator with 21111 and pair with nuks conductive bullets

[solemn vine]

i dont want to be that guy but the RoF mod in tier 2 achieves the same effect with making you blow 2 rounds when you only need one

and it lets you reload faster than the reload mod because reload delay is based off of fire rate

[tall kraken]

nah dw i get your point

im running the db overclock bc it also comes with a tiny dmg boost

[jolly hazel]

why mega power supply?

i havent tried building colette for dps yet

[dull nexus]

Whoever played EDD with me, y’all the best for sticking with me despite the fails

Esp the newbie to EDD

[humble zinc]

Me: having no blank/infused cores, no assignment, waiting for Thursday

[dull nexus]

Same

Thursday best day

[surreal inlet]

ill try that if i get it, thanks!

[fathom hound]

It's doable with sticky

The issue on stage 2 is more just the ridiculous terrain gen

[cyan fog]

Oh im sure it is, i normally love sticky I think we just had bad spawns. So many mactera and spitters and naedocyte breeders

[fathom hound]

Yeah, it was a slog for me

[vale sable]

lads, is there a difference in loot between Elite Deep Dives and normal Deep Dives?

[humble zinc]

Only "loot" you'll find on any deep dives are gold and some lucky hoarder spawning

Machine events, lost packs/crates and craftable minerals doesn't spawn

[vale sable]

I mean like, infused cores, but I guess the cores aren't on a rarity scale so why am I even asking

sorry

[humble zinc]

Oh the cores are the same

1st stage is blank, 2nd is infused OC, 3rd is a cosmetic
For DD and EDD

[vale sable]

oh ok, thanks for clearing that out

[humble zinc]

I mean the same as the the order you get them

Their "content" will be different

[jolly hazel]

no but rewards are separate

as in 1 set of 3 for dd, another set of 3 for edd

[vale sable]

ohhh

[humble zinc]

yee

[vale sable]

splendid

[fathom hound]

@dull nexus did you mean stage 2 EDD?

[dull nexus]

Ye

[fathom hound]

Because I avoided that somehow then

Didn't even hear the broadcast

[dull nexus]

It’s a random spawn but I was unlucky enough to run into nemesis 2 times

[fathom hound]

Oof

[dull nexus]

Yea it was absolutely frustrating

[fathom hound]

Yeah I just had a ton of acid spitters

[dull nexus]

I felt bad for the newbie who joined my team

[fathom hound]

Yeah I soloed for a reason

[dull nexus]

His first EDD and got thrown into a world of pain

[fathom hound]

EDD I just tend to rather want to do on my own

[dull nexus]

Nothing wrong with that

Stage 3 was surprisingly manageable

[jolly hazel]

stage 3 fucked and sucked with greenbeard cryo driller

I thought it was at least twice as hard as last week

[fathom hound]

It was annoying for me only due to sticky flames and dreads

But still doable

[jolly hazel]

classic dread+horror creates positioning problems versus kill shit problems

[fathom hound]

Tbh the biome is what made the EDD as rough as it was

If the same missions were on salt pits, crystalline, or glacial it wouldn't have been nearly as bad

[dull nexus]

Oh my driller tried that but he went to the cryo cannon afterwards

[fathom hound]

Yeah, it was a slog like I said.

Explosive reload saved me there

[echo storm]

i went cryo driller for the edd and it went pretty good

[fathom hound]

Mhm, the mandatory dreads makes cryo appealing I'll admit

[sterile basin]

so, is this week not a good week to try EDD for the first time with randoms? I heard it's especially difficult

[dull nexus]

It’s fine. I had a good team with me that stuck with me for multiple tries

[fathom hound]

It's on the rougher side.

[dull nexus]

I think this coming EDD is glacial strata

Prediction

[fossil tulip]

It wasn't too too bad, I took my friend through it for his first time EDD

[scarlet oar]

I just hope the EDD is anything but magma core and hollow bough

[dull nexus]

Same

[scarlet oar]

The DD doesn't matter that much, it's always easy
But please, for the love of Karl, none of those BS biomes in the EDD

[jolly hazel]

magma core is fine imo

well its not the awful shitfest I thought it was

the natural light and reflective cave surface makes vision very easy, plus magma core caves are almost always wide open

[surreal inlet]

FINALLY
FINISHED THE EDD

[blazing current]

Has been a while since the last glacial strata isn't it?

My favorite biome out of all

[echo storm]

magma core and fossils is probably one of the ones i hate the most

[old widget]

Man I need to adjust my gamma settings or something, magma is one of the worst visibility biomes overall for me

seems like there's some kind of global reflectivity value for biome surfaces that makes magma core just eat light, vs. say glacial where every surface is a mirror

[calm jetty]

Easiest edd i have ever played in my life

[jolly hazel]

I feel that bough and weald both eat the most light, bough is worse because of root structures obscuring vision. I cannot be 100% sure with magma core and dense biozone because of the natural light sources. All I know is that I can still roughly navigate even if scout isn't doing his job in the latter two.

I do agree with glacial strata though, fungus bogs seems to exude natural light a bit as well

there is definetly reflectivity value and the modders probably know the non-biased answer lol

[ornate kiln]

i'm going to do my first deep dive, i see how to do it but i let it public if anyone wnats to join me, my nick in steam is Maker

[brittle bear]

I attempted deep dive 6 times.

I keep having issues while on 2nd or 3rd stage loading screen.

When hosting, my teammates get kicked out, and I find myself fighting solo.

When joining, i get the connection lost prompt and I get on the ship, without any loot or exp.

Tried looking online for solutions, only found out I'm one of maaaany who have encountered this issue, couple of them straight up quit drg and never came back.

Any suggestions?
Stuff I ccould try to fix it?

P.S. while in the loading screen, the game freezes for couple of seconds, and if I press shift tab, the Steam Overlay says "Disconnected".

[brittle bear]

@warm ivy @terse quiver
@wanton bane

[burnt sandal]

we have a #bug-discussion channel for technical issues and pinging the devs is not going to magically solve your problem either. Especially not the Art Director.

[digital chasm]

you have pinged the devs, prepare to die

[brittle bear]

Okidoki, my bad

[brittle bear]

Meh, i received a tip

I didn't see the dedicated channel, so I guess its a lose-win

[terse quiver]

Someone pinged me, by rules everybody take a shot 🍻

[burnt sandal]

god damn it

[digital chasm]

[lofty parrot]

sd and the bough is absolute butthole

[fallow niche]

me omw to ping the guy who made drg's soundtrack to play the edd with me

[lofty parrot]

nvm the bough sucks alone too

[hexed crystal]

[plush forge]

[fathom hound]

The regular DD is really chill

Pun intended

[humble zinc]

:^)

[fathom hound]

Really though I swear it caters to flamer users

[silk sandal]

The current EDD is madness xD Got it on second try, but it was actual work...

[hexed night]

my god elite dives are a FUCKING nightmare on second stage

[fathom hound]

It sure was

[hexed night]

atleast i got a matrix core but omg

each stage i had to fight damn dreadnaughts

[humble zinc]

me trying to play any haz4/5:
"this is fine"
my potato PC when wave spawns:
"8 FPS, take it or leave it"

[fathom hound]

Yeah that was the annoying thing about the EDD

The dreads

[hexed night]

Dr e a dss

[severe tusk]

Dreads can be tough until you learn their behaviors, then they are pretty easy. I rarely ever go down to dreads anymore.

[fathom hound]

It's really a matter of where I fight dreads that determines difficulty

Open area? Stupid easy. Very tight tunnel? Rougher

[severe tusk]

Oh yeah, try to find a decently large area to fight in and do some terraforming before the fight if necessary. You often are well served to pop a dread then fall back to a nice room to fight in.

[surreal inlet]

yeah in this EDD the dread fights were pretty easy
twins you can just fight near the refinery
we lead hiveguard back to the spawn room so it was easier
and classic i just cleaned out some bloated vines with my drills before fighting him

[fathom hound]

I do this period for dread fights.

Unless it's already in an open area.

[ornate kiln]

soo, here i can put the invitation to a deep dive right?

[jolly hazel]

#lfg-steam

[robust mist]

anyone here wana do a deep dive?

came here cause deep dives with out a vc are jank

[summer wigeon]

#lfg-steam

or whatever platform you are on

[robust mist]

oh

how do i send an invite there

[summer wigeon]

if you are on steam and have the game open when you click on the + to the left of the text bar you should have the option to create an invite

[robust mist]

okay

thx

[summer wigeon]

if you aren't on steam you just ask

[robust mist]

i am on steam

[summer wigeon]

cool

[flat moth]

should new players just skip the elite deep dive this week?

cuz im a new player and the 4.5 stage is already too hard for me to survive

[bleak wharf]

its a good learning experience

[flat moth]

I feel like such a burden to whichever party I join

[tight pecan]

I've been unable to beat Stage 3

Stage 2 yes, 3 no

Horror keeps obliterating any team I'm in then the hole isn't very fun either

[bleak wharf]

ye but eventually if u do beat this edd itll make other activities feel easier

but 1 day until reset so u can just wait for the next one

[stone fractal]

The EDD this week is a pain

Out of 4 tries, I failed on S1 3 times, S3 1 time

[tall kraken]

EDD = torture

[wanton knot]

s1 is rough as hell with shield disruption

s3 is just annoying with horror lmao

[tall kraken]

shield disruption is enough to kill off most unprepared miners

[tall meadow]

I would like to give you all a boost of confidence at least is that shield disrupt has auto 30% damage reduction for dwarves

[wanton knot]

at least shield disruption gives that passive resistance

[tall meadow]

So it’s not as bad as you think

It’s all psychology at that point

If you had red rock blaster beer it could basically make you a tank

[wanton knot]

hella effective hp

[tall kraken]

my main problem with shield disruption is you're just constantly always on that static health pool

you never get the passive regenerating shield that makes everything feel less dangerous

[wanton knot]

vamp cryo driller has a decent time on stage 1 aside from the dreads

i still went down like 20 times though lmao

[tall kraken]

sure, you take less dmg overall thanks for the 30% dmg reduction, it just mindgames me to hell

[wanton knot]

pretty much speedran laying down the lines and then went down 10 times

the thorns + shield disruption definitely does not help confidence

[tall meadow]

Mind games is all

[wanton knot]

"oh no i stepped on a tiny thorn there goes some of my valuable how"

[tall meadow]

If you’re going down that much , it won’t matter even if you had shields at that point

[wanton knot]

hp*

yeah lmao i suck at driller

play too agro

it's fun tho

[tall kraken]

im a scout main because of the agility bullshit

i cannot not grapple

[wanton knot]

i've gotten used to the slower movement and dodging on other classes a bit

as scout i still break my legs about 20% of the time anyway

[tall meadow]

Unfortunately deep dive shield disrupt only has that 30% damage reduce

But the extra red sugar spawns don’t happen in DD

unlike regular missions with shield disrupt

[stone fractal]

I finished S2 by one shotting the Hiveguard with a bulk detonator

[tall meadow]

Always satisfying when you pull it off

[scarlet oar]

better than having the detonator open the egg before you want to

happened to me, I was lucky I already had a plan on where to fight it

[sly vapor]

what is the hardest elite deep dive ever? does anyone know? try to be as objective as possible

[humble zinc]

I didn't even know this was a thing 🤔

[hoary cove]

the one where some of the morkite was glitched inside the drop pod and i cudnt finish the mission

[hollow citrus]

there was a pretty brutal hollow bough EDD last year

but I wouldn't know, I only got the game this year

[open ginkgo]

honestly i might just skip it myself

seems pretty bad for a first attempt at EDDs

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[bleak wharf]

yay new deep dives

[dull nexus]

Oh boy what’s it gon be

[unkempt saffron]

<@&296918282403840000> we got a live one over here

[dull nexus]

who

[unkempt saffron]

mods did their magic, youre too late pal

[humble zinc]

hehe boi

[fathom hound]

[weary blaze]

That one with the 249.4 morkite on the entire escort mission sounded pretty rough with how much complaining I saw everywhere a few months ago

Ohhhh yeah, I almost forgot, my team was able to kill the dreadnought with the bulk that spawns on the second stage of edd. That was epic... What was not epic was the first time around when nobody could figure out the last mini mule was in the ceiling

[old widget]

Shattered Armpit, a bit over a year ago, stage 2 in particular: https://youtu.be/-zrLnhsqVsc?t=1648 (not my vid, linked at start of stage 2)

Hollow bough, insane cavegen/static enemies and welcome committee, haunted cave, egg primary, dread secondary, and low nitra

[jolly hazel]

eggs and salvage truly generate some awful caves

[dawn zealot]

i think some of the recent sandblasted ones had some decently hard stages, this weeks was definitely the hardest in a while from what ive seen

[jolly hazel]

haven't seen a mega cave in a deep dive yet, might be because they arent allowed to have level 3 length/complexity

[dawn zealot]

haunted cave with egg primary dread secondary is eugh

[jolly hazel]

yeah it didn't look too bad on paper but the cave sucked

[dawn zealot]

there was one azure deep dive with that, the cave was really cramped as well with barely any space for the twins

[humble zinc]

i just hate haunted cave because i usually end up forgetting about the ghost, go do my shit, look back and it's right on top of me

😔

[jolly hazel]

do you play with audio off?

[humble zinc]

no, but sometimes my brain just to dumb mode and forgets about the noise

when its not digging to get you ofc

[bleak wharf]

theres also a giant radius of blue flame particles

[weary blaze]

Nah, those are friendly fire flies that just happen sometimes

[grave mantle]

Did my first deep dive yesterday. I'm looking to do an elite one. Any tips? I'm doing it on scout

[sly vapor]

you will have a lot of trouble with this elite, it's one of the hardest in a while, you might want to wait a day for the next elite

[novel comet]

Boy do I love bulk detonators

[echo storm]

this edd definitely requires neuron activation

no doubt about it

[novel comet]

I've gotten to the third mission four times now, but just not been able to keep outpacing the horror

Because it's me, a driller, and two engineers

I try to keep luring it But it always just seems to go for them

If the cave was larger it'd be nice but like....ugh

[bleak wharf]

ur a driller u make the cave larger

u have c4 for a reason

[novel comet]

Trust me, I do, but it also doesn't help the last mission barely has any nitra

[limpid pond]

This is probably the hardest EDD I've done... much worse than Fast Slope and Burning Strike

[novel comet]

I don't remember the name, but there was one about two weeks ago in the magma and started off with eggs and refinery, that one was not fun either

Does anybody have any just overall advice for this one, I'm a silver one driller and this is still only the second EDD that I've done

[bleak wharf]

wait for tommorow

so new edd

[limpid pond]

1. Red Rock Blaster
2. Cryo Cannon
3. Pray

[bleak wharf]

ez

[limpid pond]

Everyone says use Sludge, but Sludge Pump TTK isn't good enough to stop getting bit on Shield Disruption, and Sludge Blast is shit vs anything not a Dread

CRSPR is unusable because Dreads, Cryo Vampire spam is the only way to not drop like a rock on Hollow Bough Shield Disruption

You're also gonna need to do a lot of terraforming to make fighting the Dreads possible

Stage 1, I think the best spot is just flattening the whole area where you drop in, same for Stage 2, Stage 3 you can just destroy the bloated vine at the bottom of the pit and it's good enough

[hexed crystal]

Not really

You just need to move

The area is already pretty open

[limpid pond]

Move where? All 3 stages are basically nothing but cliffs and vines you can get stuck on and the Dreads can snipe you from behind, hopes and dreams don't make for good terrain

[weary blaze]

I know this is a hard deep dive because it took 2 tries to do

[surreal inlet]

dreads were easy this EDD
twins you can just fight next to the refinery
hiveguard you can move them back to the spawn room
and classic you only need to terraform a little bit

stage 2 was just everything: the room
that was the hardest part

[echo storm]

u get a lot of nitra for this edd

the hiveguard one u definitely gotta terraform but it's totally doable

[untold drum]

How should I approach a deep dive?

[vivid wedge]

Great question, I would say make sure to get the nitra early and be mindful of your ammo. Remember your pickaxe can do damage and take out the crawlers if it's just a few of them.

Would also add, while I wouldn't say "speed run" it. I'd advise you to do your best to not overspend time on each level. As the longer it takes the more bugs you'll fight... and because you don't have infinite ammo it'll hurt moving into the next stage.

[humble zinc]

Pickaxes do damage, but so does bug bites :^)

[mental urchin]

deep dives are easier to do when you are always pushing the objective and minimize idle time, saving you nitra in the process. also, consider familiarizing with haz 4 to get a feel of bugs’ movement speed, it should help a lot

[untold drum]

Thank you

[surreal inlet]

the most i terraformed for a hiveguard arena was a tunnell up the cliff in the spawn room

(and a tunnel from the spawn room all the way to the drop pod but i dont think that exactly counts)

[mental urchin]

glad to help

[untold drum]

Do you get bosco on solo deep dives?

[bleak wharf]

ye

[dreamy terrace]

to all player starting a deep dive and leave thx your the best troller

and no way to report troll in this game thx to the dev

[jolly hazel]

things happen sometimes

if its any consolation they are wasting the same amount of time as you if they are trolling

[vivid wedge]

one thing i've never understood is why is it "funny" or "enjoyable" to intentionally upset other players and play it off as I'm just joking/trolling calm down
just because you're having a bad day doesn't mean you should go around ruining the days of others like that

sorry to hear you had to deal with trolls Zubi, hope you manage to finish your deep dive! keep on rock n stoning brotha!

[surreal inlet]

yeah i never got it either

[tight pecan]

Only took me 12 tries with randoms but two people in a VC did it in 1:13:24 with 300 Nitra leftover

Dear god

[echo storm]

randoms are a crap shoot

[old widget]

did it first try with 3 silver rando dwarven companions, but it was a bit of a slog (and I was running NTP gunner for EZ mode)

[prime peak]

best regular deep dive scout loadout?

[ancient arrow]

Whatever your comfortable with

Regular deep dive is just 3 normal missions back 2 back

[still tinsel]

just got the game and was wondering what some good early game perks are

also just for normal gameplay should i be mining every funny little rock i find and dumping it in or just exclusively the ones for the missions

[burnt sandal]

any perk, really.

[still tinsel]

aight fair enough

[burnt sandal]

I'd say to go with whatever you want, there's no defined way to do it. Going fast is the most "efficient way" but it doesn't make you at a disadvantage to take your time either.

[still tinsel]

what i really mean by that is should i neglect everything and go for mission rocks or go for other rocks as well

i tend to do one or the other

idk if there's any bonuses to mining other types of rock

[burnt sandal]

You'll have to define a bit more what you call "other types of rock" 😄

[still tinsel]

literally any kind of rock that is not listed in the top right

like any kind of naturally generating rock that can be deposited in the mule

[burnt sandal]

Everything is listed up there.

except red sugar, but that's because it's just healing in the form of a rock

[still tinsel]

alrighty

thanks!

[burnt sandal]

Nitra is for ammo, gold is for extra credits at the end of the mission

[still tinsel]

ohhhhh

[burnt sandal]

Every other special mineral like "umanite" or "bismor" or "jadiz" and the likes are upgrade materials, therefore they are important (it's literally the ingame money you use to pay to upgrade your guns)

[still tinsel]

oh got it, thanks mate

[burnt sandal]

No problem
Since you seem fairly new, take a look at the miner's manual, in the escape menu, top left corner

it contains a lot of valuable information for new players

like basic stuff, nothing too in-depth

[still tinsel]

gotcha. I remember hearing about it in the tutorial, but i forgot about it

alright appreciate it mate, have a good one

[burnt sandal]

you too

[weary blaze]

Don't be fooled by legendary 3 promotions btw, I friended one when I was new a couple months ago, found out he mostly plays haz2, thinking back, it was pretty funny trying out my first edd attempt with him and us losing in the first 5 minutes. I thought edd and haz 5 was much worse than it is for a couple weeks since then.

[solemn vine]

how long is left on the DD?

[jolly hazel]

about 13 hours

[formal ore]

Hey why not a shooting station to test weapons after buying The weapon license

?

[jolly hazel]

your shooting stations is hoxxes

also wrong channel

#suggestions

[sacred escarp]

anyone wants to go edd?

I can go scout/driller

[limpid torrent]

Engine limitations

[static flame]

What's a Elite Deep Dive

[tulip idol]

lol

[burnt sandal]

https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Dives?so=search

[fresh turtle]

God fucking damn if the first two stages of the EDD gave out infinite blank cores and OC's you still could not get me to replay that

first week im not completing the EDD since I started doing them and i 100% do not feel bad about it

[solemn vine]

EDD attempt anyone?

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[formal ore]

Oh

😕

[fathom hound]

Solo the deep dives

[glossy minnow]

how's the EDD this week?

[glossy minnow]

that bad huh??

[fresh turtle]

the first stage with shield disruption honestly wasnt all that bad you just need to get the pipes laid and take out the dread before the first wave starts

[surreal inlet]

1st stage isnt too bad, but its still hollow bough shield disruption
2nd stage has everything: the room with a fucked mini mule spot and the dread being the exact center of the room
3rd stage isnt that bad, but its still haunted cave

[fresh turtle]

also its has like 5 leeches and a bunch of spitballers with infinite sightlines

2nd stage

[surreal inlet]

they put the difficulty in the 2nd stage for sure

[fresh turtle]

also the layouts of the 2nd and 3rd stage are just not friendly to moving around

but thats just hollow bough

[surreal inlet]

true

[limpid pond]

1st is the worst IMO, the other two are slightly easier shades of shitty and hard and annoying

[surreal inlet]

what
how
2 pipelines are relatively close and the 3rd isnt far behind
twins are the easiest and the area around the refinery is a decent arena
it also helps that the cocoon is out of the way, you arent gonna be accidently hitting it

its also the one you repeat the most, so you get good at it quicker than stage 2 or 3

[limpid pond]

Still Shield Disruption Hollow Bough

[surreal inlet]

true true

its still hard,but you get it down pat pretty quickly

[jolly hazel]

haz 4.5

[plain spade]

is miner Cryo gun bad for EDD since cryo is bad for Dreads and Machines?

[jolly hazel]

no guaranteed machine spawns on edd so that isn't a factor

cryo can actually be pretty good versus dreads, apart from classic

and classic can be frozen pretty easily but the driller needs to know what he's doing

[humble zinc]

7:30 hours left for scanner to roll in

:^)

I should sleeb

[lusty shuttle]

Is it possible to get kill dreadnoughts as both the primary and secondary objective?

[old widget]

Nah…the RNG has rules that exclude certain combos for deep dives, one of which says that primary/secondary objectives can’t be the same

[unkempt saffron]

Cryo IS good for dreads

Also, there are no rival presence mutators in the edd

[scarlet pike]

Anyone wanna make a guess what this weeks deep dives gonna be?

[blazing current]

glacial edd pls

[dull nexus]

Prob glacial

[hollow citrus]

Salt pits and sandblasted

[atomic prawn]

more hollow bough 😂

[unkempt saffron]

next edd will be sandblasted and you will learn to love it

[scarlet oar]

No, I want to use my cryo driller build for another solo EDD, so no glacial

[still tinsel]

how do I do assignments? i just realized they exist, and i want to unlock new terminals and whatnot, but now that i've started one i don't know what to do

it's just "complete this assignment to unlock trade terminal" I mean, alright, but what is it

[rustic yacht]

when you "accept an assignment" at the assignment terminal it'll become "active" and show you a progress bar. When you're in the mission selection screen, your assignment mission will be lit up with a white glow.

[reef bison]

Mineral trading means you can get daily deals to get more credits or minerals. Or sell minerals and buy them etc

You can get some pretty great deals like I sold 78 jadiz yesterday for 22k

[unkempt saffron]

Wish granted, but now youll have to contend with rival presence and a nemmy in stage 2 and 3 respectively

[still tinsel]

OH, thanks lol

did not realize it was tied to that

[tulip idol]

solo is little amount of bugs

carrying 3 chinese 300ms players who constantly die is more challenging

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[solemn vine]

im 100% sure 3 or 4 man is the hardest for EDD with 2 man or solo being the easiest

[summer forge]

2 man is pretty hard

if you dont have gunner it might be unreal to res the other

[torpid solar]

Enemies have the same amount of health for 1-2 players, but more for 3-4 players, so that makes sense: https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Glyphid_Praetorian#Health_and_Armor

[burnt sandal]

duo is the easiest way to play the game

[summer forge]

honestly it feels the other way for me

to be fair, duo haunted caverns are just awful

[burnt sandal]

the scaling is barely changed between solo and duo, but you got one more player.

[summer forge]

you get one more player instead of bosco

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[sly kettle]

Good luck everyone!

[potent vector]

where’s muffin

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Heavy Gorge
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Hiveguard) + 📡 1 Black Box | Volatile Guts Mactera Plague
Stage 2: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | Elite Threat
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | No Mutators

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Shattered Hideout
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Mactera Plague
Stage 2: 7 Aquarq + 2 Eggs | No Mutators
Stage 3: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption

[quiet mortar]

Here :)

[sly vapor]

mactera plague

[potent vector]

on stage 1 at least

[atomic prawn]

huh nice n ez biomes

[wraith shard]

Any info on EDD stage 2 guys?

[hollow citrus]

REZ is just CC recoloured lol

[atomic prawn]

really...

just wait for muffin lmao

[wraith shard]

Ah well at least it's not hollow bough this time

Finally some good fucking biome

[atomic prawn]

if you're in that much of a rush, just jump into edd 😂

true haha

elims every stage of hollow bough

🤢

[wraith shard]

Especially since radioactive praets are less lethal since no DoT

[potent vector]

glacial praets say hello

[blazing current]

Ah fuck no glacial strata

[wraith shard]

No glacial strata... Wait.. no glacial strata!

[scarlet oar]

Less go

I can use my cryo driller build again to carry me through the EDD

hurray!

[wraith shard]

Also no random blizzards and terrain that slows u down and doesn't make u to take up a passive perk slot for it

[scarlet oar]

Crystalline caverns is the best biome for EDD

because there is literally nothing

[wraith shard]

Also no naedocytes!

[scarlet oar]

it's just you, the bugs, and the objectives

[wraith shard]

What about azure weald?

[scarlet oar]

what?

[wraith shard]

Glacial strata has naedocytes as a part of the regular enemy spawn

They're like swarmers but 10x worse

[scarlet oar]

as long as there is no morkite, it's fine too
I just struggle with finding some hidden morkite sometimes if the cave isn't in complete darkness

[scarlet oar]

wait, they're a regular enemy there?

[solemn vine]

shield disruption 🤢

[wraith shard]

I understand the morkite problem but as a scout it's not a problem for me

[scarlet oar]

well I prefer not to run scout on the EDD

[icy river]

Dont forget shield disruption with dozer 😂

[scarlet oar]

on stage 3, too

[icy river]

Ya awesome that's what we need 😂

[weary blaze]

Rolly pollys 🤢

[wraith shard]

I will say SD isn't that bad (but it's still abnoxious af) since u get I think 30% dmg reduction to compensate for no shield

But damn I would like to have some originality for this week's EDD, throw in low O2 and haunted cave idc just not SD

[solemn vine]

im missing something, does this make it particularly worse?

[scarlet oar]

Shield disruption isn't too bad for me if I run cryo vampire anyway

[icy river]

@scarlet oar yep but dozer missio u know have to be more careful

@solemn vine dozer mission more enemies last stage haz 5.5 any mistake oneshot

[wraith shard]

It's all rocks and stones until u see a cargo crate in EDD

[scarlet oar]

cryo cannon and its amazing cc will take care of most of the annoying stuff

just have to be careful not to stray away from doretta that much

[icy river]

@scarlet oar i know perfect if there is gunner

@scarlet oar yep

[solemn vine]

time to use NTP i guess

[scarlet oar]

to be honest, this weeks EDD seems more manageable than last week's

no dreadnoughts

so I can focus all of my ammo on crowds

[icy river]

@scarlet oar last was mess my frnd what we expect from hollow bough

[wanton knot]

i do not fancy a haz 5.5 escort with mules and sd

[scarlet oar]

yeah stage 3 seems to be pain

[icy river]

@scarlet oar i did solo scout no Bosco zero death run after second try previous edd

[wanton knot]

the first two stages on the edd seem fine tho

maybe i'll pass on that cosmetic core

[scarlet oar]

but fun fact, bugs cannot attack when frozen
also I have the freezing power of glacial strata on crack so there will be frozen glyphids everywhere

boutta turn this into a snowgrave run

[icy river]

@wanton knot yep it's good one not bad

[burnt sandal]

you know you can just reply to people instead of tagging them everytime ? 😛

[icy river]

@burnt sandal i know brother 😂

I can do any hard objectives pls no hollow bough

[potent vector]

those electric crystals say hi

[scarlet oar]

oh, right

forgot about them

guess some drill fuel is going towards breaking them if they're in an especially annoying area

[potent vector]

oh god, doretta on haz5.5 with SD

[scarlet oar]

might need a lot of cc for that one

and probably someone who has a lot of single target because detonators babyyyy

our favourite in escort missions

[wanton knot]

are there seriously dets in the escort

oh dear lord

maybe ill have to bring overdrive engie sd

[wraith shard]

This one time we got a total of 3 detonator spawns in escort duty... We had a det spawn in each stop..

[scarlet oar]

an unlucky det kill can wipe out one part of doretta, from full health

[wanton knot]

funny 10000 damage final blow

havent predrilled an escort in a while

definitely gonna consider pestering the driller to do that if we make it that far

[scarlet oar]

last I checked it was 60000 on haz 5.5?

[wanton knot]

10000, 60000, either way anything's dead af

idk the numbers tho lmao

[scarlet oar]

it's a one hit for anything either way

[wanton knot]

yeah you right wiki says 60k on haz 5.5 solo

[scarlet oar]

so maybe bring anyone who can tase that detonator so it barely moves

maybe an engi running the smg

[wanton knot]

72k on haz 5.5 4 player lmao

lok + ecr and electricity mod my beloved

[scarlet oar]

or just scout running ifg

or bosco with electric bullets

[wanton knot]

welp i will consider the edd after i do the dd tomorrow morning

[sly kettle]

Speaking of the Deep Dive, anyone reached stage 2 on the normal one yet?

[bright girder]

The liquid extraction?

[surreal lynx]

How plenty is nitra this week dd and edd?

[hexed crystal]

Edd ending soon

Still haven't finished

Anyone wanna do a last moment run?

[quiet mortar]

It's already reset, new dives are up

[bright girder]

nitra is pretty plentiful in dd

i think by the end group of four called in like 7 or 8 total resupplies and still had like 160 nitra left

[torpid solar]

First stage of the regular deep dive is Twins + Hiveguard btw

[bright girder]

dont fight the twins in the corridor next to them

random scout went ahead and fucked us with that

[torpid solar]

And stage 3 of the regular deep dive is 4 eggs + blackbox, no mutators

[bright girder]

blackboxes all in nice places as well

[sly aurora]

That's good. Had some bad places before

[hexed crystal]

Still 40 min for me

[burnt sandal]

sync your system clock and restart the game

dunno if the microsoft version has a different reset time but I don't believe it does

[hexed crystal]

I think it does

[potent vector]

EDD 1st stage very straightforward. very small cave with 1 spawn room and 1 main room. there's a breeder and leech. only got like 160-180 nitra total so be conservative

[quiet mortar]

From my knowledge, they all reset at the same time

[burnt sandal]

thought so, thanks

[gloomy dome]

How's this week's edd?

[potent vector]

EDD 2nd stage pretty okay. lots of small nitra veins hidden in ceilings and dark spots

and there's a nitra vein by the egg at the bottom

doing stage 3 now, the spicy one

[gloomy dome]

Previous' stage 2 was hell because leaf lovers break the hiveguard the moment they see it while theres a swarm lol

Shield disruption is alright for escort ig

[dull nexus]

@harsh horizon

[potent vector]

failed stage 3 because 3 went down and the surviving driller is way too pussy to kill enemies attacking drilldozer

all enemies are attacking the dozer and us but hey, he took his time killing 2 grunts with way too much crispr ammo

[dull nexus]

So any advice for EDD?

[potent vector]

protect THE DOZER

PLS

[bright girder]

Stage three wasn't that bad but we did pre drill

[knotty frost]

First stage felt super ez. Third just pre-drill

[bright girder]

But definitely so much harder than the other two

[dull nexus]

Is pre drilling advisable for EDD?

Should I tell my driller friend to do it?

[bright girder]

Certainly made ours easier

Getting the breeders out early

[dull nexus]

Oh

There are breeders

How many?

[knotty frost]

Basically it just reduces the amount of bugs you'll need to fight when entering the room with Doretta.

[dull nexus]

Ah ok so yes

[weary blaze]

I play escorts with no pre drilling, the way God intended

[dull nexus]

I wonder if I should try gunner for this week’s EDD

Seems easy enough compared to last week’s

[scarlet pike]

By Karl not shield disruption on stage 3

[waxen surge]

Shield Disruption in stage 3

[echo storm]

neuron activation stage 3

tbh ill take shield disruption over haunted cave

[tulip idol]

so I decided to use build inspector.... and that's my open lobby EDD roulette today:

• lvl70 Scout with GK2 and Boomstick (no OC and autoreload mod for some reason) - ok I guess
• lvl500 Gunner NTP addict with Elephants - he likes his build so much that he doesn't even have any alternative freeze compatible options
• gold engi with nukes and green oc Stubby - not freeze compatible, didn't respond a single time and kept nuking himself so I kicked him on 3rd nuke suicide.

[frail pecan]

define not freeze compatible

[potent vector]

things that deal good direct damage

[tulip idol]

DoT/Slow instead of kinetic dmg output

[sly vapor]

dd was one of the easiest ones i ever played

[frail pecan]

elephant rounds xD

technically all their guns are affected by cryo, although there are better options for sure

[tulip idol]

I asked everyone to pick freeze compatible weapons I got scout with his mediocre dps at best as kinetic option

[ivory marten]

Oh god not Mactera Box again

[tulip idol]

I asked that gunner how he's gonna deal with mactera plague with ... ntp

he said they're gonna die eventually lol

[ivory marten]

I got bad memories from last time

[weary blaze]

I've been enjoying big Bertha compared to ntp

[ivory marten]

Fucking hell how many black boxes did Mission Control lose!

[tulip idol]

I start to believe that skill progression from lvl200 to level 500 doesn't exist
once you unlock fat boy or ntp your brain gets frozen for hundreds of rank levels

[dull nexus]

Wait what works with freeze for gunner?

[weary blaze]

Lead storm

[dull nexus]

Or what works against mactera plague?

[ivory marten]

I'm personally a Big Bertha enjoyer

[pure cedar]

People stick to builds they had success with I guess...

[tulip idol]

best option is bullet hell

[dull nexus]

What about secondaries?

[tulip idol]

brt ls

[dull nexus]

Is the BRT with microflechettes ok?

[frail pecan]

6 shooter

[ivory marten]

Makes sense

[tulip idol]

experimental rounds or Lead Sprey

fletchettes is mediocre dps

[dull nexus]

Rip I have none of those OCs

[tulip idol]

fletchettes is weak point weapon ig

[pure cedar]

Flechette is for precision yeah

[weary blaze]

I'm liking fletchettes because of the ammo, I use brt for the stun mostly

[tulip idol]

end of EDD... we have 300 nitra left with 2 resupply pods nearby... need to start Ommoran thing... my NTP Gunner went for resupply 2 caves behind... WHY lol

[pure cedar]

Brra brra brra

[frail pecan]

technically a normal bulldog is fine, as defined by LazyMaybe Bulldog video

[dull nexus]

Oh

[tulip idol]

just need kinetic dps

he even didn't assist with elephants that much

but he could, I shoot frozen targets with elephants a lot

[dull nexus]

I have six shooter

I have NTP on autocannon too

[tulip idol]

ntp users know one and only button ig

[dull nexus]

Splintering shells composite drums, burning hell

[tulip idol]

frankly, I could even combo with burning hell well

[frail pecan]

@tulip idol bring your own freeze compatible OC, Ice Spear xD

[dull nexus]

Won’t burning hell interfere with freezing on enemies?

[tulip idol]

I would go spear but snowball is needed this EDD vs macteras

[tulip idol]

we can take turns - ignite and then freeze for tshock

or other way

[potent vector]

DD very easy and straightforward. black boxes not in awkward spots. stage 3 could be done in 5 minutes

[dull nexus]

Ohh

[tulip idol]

takes some practice but I can find moments when interfere and when not

[dull nexus]

So that’s how tempshock works

[tulip idol]

anyways I freeze at distance with snowball so his close range ignition is fine, it's even better with hot bullets

[dull nexus]

I have been using like drak’s TEF and zhukov’s cryo minelets and I wasn’t sure if my build was anti synergizing with itself

[tulip idol]

with hot bullets there's Ranged T-shock option with snowball-hot bullets combo

but minigun is generally good with cryocannon

but gosh I got Gunner with the worst build for cryocannon lol

[dull nexus]

Is aggressive venting or hot bullets better for burning hell?

[tulip idol]

Venting is overall better

but you need range option on secondary

[dull nexus]

Bulldog six shooter then

[tulip idol]

Venting is used the most on Burning Hell

no no

Bulldog VB

is combo to Burning Hell

[dull nexus]

Don’t have it

Only got six shooter

And microflechettes

[tulip idol]

Burning Hell is kinda Hybrid and Venting is fear-dot

any fear-dot combo effect gets amplified with slow

and you can have slow with Coilgun trail

so probably you may go combo 2 hybrid weapons this way

[dull nexus]

So use the coilgun instead?

[tulip idol]

coilgun is range option too

[dull nexus]

I have triple tech chambers for coilgun

[tulip idol]

hmmm ye you can build it for trail

one of 2 best trail builds

[dull nexus]

What build do I go with?

[tulip idol]

so you can have 3 trails for 20 ammo

[jolly hazel]

shield disruption escort

[dull nexus]

Like T?

[jolly hazel]

[tulip idol]

2-2-1-1-3

[jolly hazel]

no dreads though so sticky flame driller can carry escort

[tulip idol]

or mb no

ntc worth or not hmm

[jolly hazel]

also putting my 2 cents in to bring venting

[tulip idol]

probably not, so 2-2-1-1-3 is the way i think

[jolly hazel]

you are going to be up close with it anyways for the burn AOE, so you can take advantage of the fear

also hot bullets overheats way too quick and there's too much down time of you not shooting or god for bid you overheat

[tulip idol]

T4a also gives resistance when you need it

[dull nexus]

For the coilgun?

[tulip idol]

and triple tech abuses it into bugged constant effect

[dull nexus]

Ah ok

[tulip idol]

ye

[dull nexus]

I’ll try it with burning hell minigun

[jolly hazel]

hellfire is best oc

[tulip idol]

you may also try NTC T5a mod with it if you can find a good use

[jolly hazel]

but triple tech is serviceable

[tulip idol]

Triple Tech is trail options and bugged resistance

also dps option at full charge too

burst option*

[dull nexus]

Is 32321 for burning hell ok?

[tulip idol]

so small triple trail 20 ammo for crowd - prefireat middle range

charge fully for frozen priority

[dull nexus]

Aye okay

[tulip idol]

so you don't really need accuracy on burning hell

rof is better I think

Burning Hell lacks range cause of fast overheat

[dull nexus]

Oh

What about the rest of the tiers?

[tulip idol]

and I usually go for stun for Burning Hell

[dull nexus]

T2-4

How about T2? Is dmg better than ammo?

[tulip idol]

blowthrough is fine but if you want to go smth like shield disruption where you want to get less dmg and less risk... stun might be better

T2 is often 3k ammo for burning hell cause a lot of damage comes from burning main option and burning from venting

[dull nexus]

Ok so ammo then

[tulip idol]

but T2 damage when you need to pair it with cryo cannon

[dull nexus]

What about T4?

[dull nexus]

Oh

[tulip idol]

cause you really need dmg output for cryo cannon

[drowsy hollow]

sorry wrong channel

[sick lake]

Is it just me or does volatile guts feel like a 2nd hazard and not really a bonus?

[tulip idol]

T4 is convenience thing you got, I was used to pick your choice too, and it's actually pretty suitable for close-middle range burning hell to have fast spin up

so it's good

[dull nexus]

Ah ok

[kind field]

isnt B like the only option anyway

you wont get much value from max stability dmg because fast overheat

[dull nexus]

So 22221

[tulip idol]

but with cryo cannon you better go with T4a for dmg again

[dull nexus]

Oh ok

[tulip idol]

like cryodriller with cover you at close range for sure

2-2-3-1-1 with cryodriller, 2-1-2-2-1 your own sufficient build

[dull nexus]

Aye

Thanks

[tulip idol]

but I can't say that you will find capable cryodriller who won't interfere your burning

like you really will need take turns at close range

freeze-ignite or ignite-freeze, cover each other

at middle range and further you can shoot at the same time

but not close range

overheat into Venting is very good for cryodriller and doesn't interfere

like when there's many frozen enemies around you and you overheat - boom AoE Tshock

[dull nexus]

Oooo

I’ll try

Can’t guarantee a good random driller tho

[tulip idol]

ye it's actually harder to find smart driller for that lol

ye

but it's not impossible to do in random

just less effective

yesterday I got lvl500 driller who dug a loop back to the same tunnel instead of digging out path to starting cave through the dirt

and he took all the arbalest fireballs

idk honestly what they learn at lvl200-500

[tulip idol]

btw if Driller uses Cooker for TShock he can Tshock your burning targets too

[dull nexus]

Oh

[tulip idol]

so it can be Quadruple TShock combo:

• Burning Hell cone - Freeze
• Snowball - Hot Bullets / Freeze - Venting
• Cooker Reactor - Freeze
• Cooker Reactor - Burning

4 options

also no Hot Bullets (i.e. Venting) is actually better when you finish frozen praets and oppressors

[magic mauve]

Daaaaamn. 3-rd stage of deep dive elite is dorreta + mini-mules (2) and broken shields.

Be careful there

[tulip idol]

that's why I went cryo cannon all the way

[potent vector]

yea team was steamrolling through the first 2 stages

almost lost it at the last quarter of heartstone's hp

predrilling really made the stage much easier with the mules out of the way first

[ivory marten]

What's the terrain like for the regular deep dive.

[next vessel]

should I go flame or cryo driller for this edd?

[potent vector]

sludge

[next vessel]

what maps are in this one

[potent vector]

crystalline cavern for EDD

REZ for DD

[next vessel]

hmm is there no way to read the penalties before going in?

[potent vector]

check pins

or the subreddit thread

[next vessel]

oh nice

[potent vector]

nvm it's not pinned

got a good team on 2nd try of EDD, finished it in 39 minutes

[ivory marten]

Mhm...

[potent vector]

steamrolled through first 2 stages. stage 3 was a bit bumpy during heartstone phase

[ivory marten]

Volatile Guts any good for the swarm?

[potent vector]

so many enemies

[ivory marten]

As in make it easier to deal with.

[next vessel]

damn this setup is perfect for cryo driller

for this edd

[ivory marten]

A grabber. Are you shitting me.

[next vessel]

cryo is good vs mactera plague, + vampirism with shield disruption on frozen enemies

[potent vector]

volatile guts are bugged atm I think, it stops praets and exploders from triggering their on death effects

[next vessel]

time to test my luck

[ivory marten]

I have clearly made a a mistake with micro flechettes.

That's three bulbs down the bog.

[potent vector]

I ran sludge + full poison microwave gun earlier and got good results but yeah, go ahead and try cryo

get some teammates who can setup for the freeze direct damage bonus and it'd be fine

[scarlet oar]

alright so I tried the EDD

first two stages easy

but the third stage I failed because holy shit 5.5 escort is bullshit

[potent vector]

yea it's the spicy one

pre drill

get the mules out of the way first

it's to the east direction

[scarlet oar]

I highly advise to pre-dig into the cave to get the mini mules, and to place the resupplies beforehand

[scarlet oar]

escort caves always generate south east if I remember correctly

[potent vector]

wow, TIL

also did you get bulks?

I only got 1 bulk on stage 1

[scarlet oar]

nope, none at all

because I went in solo

I got fucked over by glyphid menaces mostly

and a shit ton of acid spitters

[potent vector]

hmm, same spawnpool as me then

oppressors, menaces, acid spitters, wardens

[scarlet oar]

also I ran out of ammo for my cryo cannon the moment I entered the room for the ommoran

which also just set me up for failure because dotty was at the last bit of her health

also 0 revives from bosco

[potent vector]

there's a ton of small nitra veins in stage 2, just need to look up or check dark spots

[scarlet oar]

so yeah, I should've pre-dug

[scarlet oar]

there's a lot of nitra, I did notice that

but I got stressed really hard and only used my cryo cannon because there were a ton of bugs, never fired my epc because there were so many

so stage 3 was a trainwreck for me

at least I'm prepared for next time

and I can't really play with other dwarves because

1. if I host, everyone else is laggy and might get kicked if my internet has the smallest hiccup
2. if I join, I'm laggy as hell and might disconnect, leaving me unable to reconnect

so I just gotta get good

[potent vector]

F

[scarlet oar]

I mean I needed like what, 2-3 tries for my last solo EDD

all I gotta prepare for is the trainwreck that is stage 3

or I could do the weekly missions and the regular deep dive first to get an overclock for my cryo cannon because I literally have nothing on it

[waxen surge]

This week's EDD was easy

[potent vector]

yea it's a bit more manageable compared to last week's, with a good team you should be fine

[waxen surge]

Oh yeah, much more manageable than last week's

We pre-drilled the checkpoint cave with the mules