#deep-dive-discussion
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carpet bomber still rocks
question, what do you all think of the 4 new weapons
i think they're not out yet 🙂
im sure theres a very civil conversation in #experimental-discussions that will answer that
That channel moves fast.
What issues with EDD? Just too swarmy on stage 2 or there some specific issues?
nothing special to note
you can play them on the experimental
Hoxxes is being stingy with nitra this week, also you might run into random Dreadnaught on stage 2 which is an instant restart cuz it'll take all your ammo (you have another dread in the final room as the objective of that mission)
Maybe technically you could fight them all at once but I feel like only scout could kite all three in such a way not to die. I could be wrong tho
The only stage that is stingy
Is literally stage 1
You don’t want to stay around too long there if you want to have surplus of nitra
Thanks
Anyone up for a deep dive?
Usually plenty of takers in the #lfg channels
Easiest edd i have ever played in my life
Not bad, just make sure your squad understands breathing for the 2nd one and don’t take the zip line in the 3rd one.
Or have some Leaf Lover Eng with a fat boy shoot the lacerator and kill your whole team.
Thanks. You PS/XB/or PC?
PS
Oh snap.
doing the EDD at 6am w/ no sleep with randoms was not a good experience so after a few wipes i downed more coffee and went solo and got it done
Sounds like you wanna run it with me
I might if you wanna go right now.
How about you run some laps around the track field
whats good against dreadnought, cryo or sludge
Sludge
how so?
Slows them down immensely.
Cryo is good against absolutely everything else though. But sludge easy win vs dread.
Hard vs regular critters.
i friend of mine keep telling me that cryo freeze them and triple the dmg
but i keep telling him that sludge is better at dread cus of the slow down
and yeah the extra dmg is nice, but the boss can only be dmg to a point of 33%
Doesn't sound like you need to ask
yeah, but how do i explain to him
If you're the one playing driller, tell him to mind his own business. if he's the one playing driller, mind your own business.
he refuse to use anything but the cryo gun
i can't even run inferno without him being slighty angry about it
im up for anything you can use
but thx for the info and other things
i always though i was wrong
Get better friends.
If your friend is genuinely arguing you about what weapon to use in a video game, dump them.
hes not a bad friend, hes pretty pog irl, just when he play the driller hes a bit of a butthole
oh we don't arguing about it, he just keep saying insane dmg is better than slow down on dreads
And if you're arguing with your friend over what weapon they should use, they need to dump you.
You're both wrong. They're situational.
i get cryo is good for many things
same with sludge in its own way
Driller gets to choose.

You don't get to tell someone else what they should run.
If you look at the terminal in the space rig, you can interact and join 1 of 3 unions, small amount of resources and basically ignorable objective
ay
Anyone up for an EDD?
try the lfgs?
Skilled players only, because I'm decent but definitely not good enough to carry the team 🙂
Wait, isn't this chat channel for deep dives?
yeah but you are looking for group no?
Fair enough. Thanks
man the edd is pretty easy
second stage gave me a lot of trouble, i got like 6+ menace spawns and molly took the most bs route to the drop pod and i almost died of oxygen
man being able to rejoin a edd after a server disconnect would be awesome
twice today i get disconnected
play solo
hey i just got my first promotion any tips and stuff for deep dives
I'm pretty new to the game and I promoted my driller and really want to do a deep dive but everytime I try to play with randos on playstation it ends badly anyway I could find a good group. Someone on reddit told me to come here.
my game just crashed in the middle of a deep dive, sorry if you were on my team
Ha. Cant do the drilldozer alone. And when I did with others we didnt have enough ammonution during the second stage and they blamed me because I didnt do the roof thing engineers do to deflect the falling rocks on Dotti.
Told me I suck and should stick to DDs and dont waste everyones time.
I didnt think of doing it because its very open.
You can always use spikes around omoran as a base
you need to do it right as phase 2 starts though
They’re full of crap. Unless you volunteered ahead of time to use that roof technique it’s not your fault. Teams should be good enough to handle the rocks, or worst case, you lose a panel or two and move on. Don’t let that toxicity deter you.
I’ve done dozens of Haz 5 escort missions and seen the roof technique attempted maybe 10% of the time and outperform just shooting rocks about half that - it shouldn’t be expected IMO
Yeah a bad experience when trying something new/challenging is never fun. Best antidote is to hop back in, since toxicity is kinda rare in DRG (though more common in EDDs)
Perhaps. But not today.
a good team will remind you and teach you what to do, and have fun. a bad team will constantly blame others and not themselves
yo is it just me, or the 2nd stage of EDD the twins are kinda insane
Kinda but for me it might because i had an not so good scout on a team of randoms
it just felt weird. the arbalest felt like it shoots projectiles as if lacerator was still alive
Hmm i dont remember
I was too pissed with the scout
Dude wasnt mining anything, engie was placing a bunch of platforms for nothing
One thing that i felt like on the stage 2 was the lack of nitra, or we were being an extremely ammo hungry squad
yeah, this EDD seems like nitra is a huge problem
in my experience the roof is actually more of a hinderance to anyone on the ground trying to shoot rocks
Idk what kind of roof the engi made for you, but you are aware theres plenty of space to move around the hearthstone and dotty in order to shoot those rocks right?
I mean they had a point. My plattform gun was the only gun I didnt really spent much ammo from.
Well then, I just had my game crash while attempting the new regular deep dive on my ps4 lol rip
At leadt it counted stage 1
At least second times the charm and thankfully didn’t crash again
it was tight for the first stage of the edd
otherwise pretty cheese
Nothing crazy in regular deep dive
Not even a cave leech
Actually there were cave leeches
In stage 2 mainly
Static spawns do differ by player count
where do i see experimental patch note
@true flame #changelist-only-for-experimental-branch
we've got a whole set of channels dedicated specifically to experimental branch content
this EDD had me clenched
i appreciated that there was a bunch of narrow tunnels that made blowthrough rounds feel very nice to use
Also the first EDD I have completed
congrats
Is there 2 refuels on the EDD?
no, drilldozer will always be one stop in deep dives
Ok thanks
this was a fun one, got all 3 done in ~15 minutes per mission while both going down frequently
in my experience there was plenty of nitra
Im starting to think trying to do the elite deep dive solo was a bad idea lmao
Especially when I gotta deal with swarmagedon while refueling cause atm I just got perma damage on the drilldozer
Least im rockin the Hurricane launcher
Hurricane gang
Holy moly, it took me 32 minutes to get through stage 1 and I almost failed it cause I had to keep repairing the drilldozer constantly since it kept going from 20% to 30% xD
Oh no, low oxygen for stage 2

Welp stage two kicked my ass
Lots of oppressors and menaces
As well as hives and nexus
3 stages with morkite on edd, has anyone had any trouble finding enough or should I wait for dark morkite buff?
maybe i just wasnt on point, but this dd and edd seemed a little more challenging than usual
Haven't done the edd yet but we've only had one down in the dd and at least 300 nitra going into each stage
there's definitely enough morkite, a different drink would be better
the second stage has the dreadnought far enough that you will have all the morkite anyway
Just unlocked deep dives, what exactly are deep dives?
@cosmic tree 3 stage roughly haz3 difficulty series
you just do one map after another
Deep Dives are an End Game mechanic that was introduced in Update 25: Endgame - Part 1. Deep Dives are accessible to the player once they have promoted their first Dwarf, while Elite Deep Dives also require the completion of a Deep Dive (only once). If the player has promoted some, but not all of their Dwarves, only the promoted Dwarves can star...
Thanks guys!
Deep dives is when the real fun happens IMO
How is this week's DD? I did the EDD but haven't had a go on the regular one
EDD was insane this wk, regular I soloed and had like 500 nitra left over
Nitra was sparse in the EDD, for sure
That 2nd stage was rough
And the egg room in the 3rd was wacky and hard to fight in
1st stage edd was pretty scarce on nitra
also the driller dozer destroys a bunch so it was sad
drilldozer destroys it? I always thought it just made it fall to the ground.
otherwise after the first stage there is more nitra on the 2nd so it is whatever
didn't find 1st stage scarce at all, there was one big vein at the start, maybe one in an intermediate room I forget, 2 in the refueling room, another in the room before the end, and one big vein in the heartstone room
generally pretty accessible unlike last week's stage1 where many were tucked in corners or ceilings
drilldozer just mines minerals, not deletes it, thankfully
ah ok
we kited the dread (we got twins) to the spawn room
you always get twins
in deep dives, the seed also determines the noughts
so it will always be the same
engineer decided to ring the entire hearthstone arena with plats

nitra was scarce for us
or the scout was just retarded
nitra scarce stage 2 too
i believe you only get like 200 nitra for stage 1 for the edd
that must be it
you get enough
like 3 resups per stage
but because stage 1 puts you at 2.5
you are never at a huge surplus till the egg cave
the 2nd stage is fine so long as people know how to do the twins
ya we got like
2 opressors and 3 praetorians on an aunnanounced mini swarm
fucked us up
ahh
well yeah once you dig out the middle pillar it's fine
I dont think this week was necessarily difficult but the caves and lack of nitra could easily make this unforgiving
driller was running cryo and engie was new lol
I think that was his first completed edd
thanks lol, usually if the engie isn't instapopping swarmers with sentries my kill count gets inflated fast from swarmers lol
plus swarmageddon+swarmer swarm on stage 3
22123 autocannon
max rof and mag size
not ammo efficient at all but it lets me clear swarms off greenbeards
warcrime rounds
I drank 3 leaf lovers in a row
oof
carpet bomber
They're not warcrimes if they're committed against bugs

🧝♂️ this u
no
didnt notice the lack of nitra seemed pretty alright
low o2 really do make a dwarf less perceptive to nitra
i swear to god
why dont they take flamethrower
its like the perfect edd for flamethrower
gotta freeze those twins somehow
DD + EDD reset this week yet or no?
They reset every Thursday at 1 p.m. CET
nice, thanks
unless every single piece of extra nitra was in the tunnels in the middle of stage 2, then no we didn't miss any nitra
might have missed the second tunnel out of spawn room in stage 3 but thats it
yeah edd stage 2 was pretty tough the rest was alright
Hey do deep dives give exp for the season 1 pass?
Yep. every mission does.. but the time involved means better doing regular missions if doing exp farm
AKA: Deep dives do not count for challenges if say have a specific biome challenge
also, due to the way the game calculates PP from gained XP, deep dives are a really bad way to get PP because it treats it as one big mission
e.g. due to the PP:XP curve, you will get noticeably more PP from doing four 5kxp missions than one 20kxp mission
Ty!
There was definitely at least one vein in the tunnels (one that looped back no less so a worthless tunnel otherwise), but most of the nitra in s2 was high up on the walls (with a lot of the morkite too)
We didn't have a scout so it was quite annoying to find (we also missed the dirt exit near the end that was high up, so we ran around for a long time), but weren't really starved for nitra at all
Back to drg chat
We were in a group of 2 though, much nicer about nitra efficiency there in general
yeah I was pretty lenient with trigger pulls but most of my team was empty when I was
I was looking up a lot and our scout didn't communicate much
its so nice being able to double dip every time though lol
Hey, me and my friends are about to go into a regular deep dive, could anyone tell me what the missions are or where I can find what they are?
Pinned messages in this channel
Updates each reset
Thanks
Can anyone help me make the EDD? I've tried it a few times with randoms and I can't get past the second phase.
try at your platform's lfg channels

the magma core Deep Dive had us down 35 kilometers on the last level, crazy
Same 😭
What's the issue?
did the deep dive elite change since the morikite issue?
Randoms + the 2nd stage requires a Scout for the morkite
yes, this week is fine for overall morkite available, last week was an anomaly
That was a bug right?
yes, it was some kind of corner case in the cave generation, the algorithm is always supposed to generate more morkite than you need, but in this case it generated exactly the right amount. coupled with some other annoyances about handling fractional mineral amounts it went south pretty quick
it wasn't a big deal once you knew about it, just had to wait for the dark morkite beer and it was a sure thing. but lots of folks went into it not knowing about it and were understandably salty
Did they fix the issue with there not being enough Morkite? Ran into it on two deep dives lol
There’s no issue with sufficient morkite this week. Caves have plenty of extra.
Awesome 👍
Scout is nice, but not required. An EPC mining driller can get the morkite quickly, or just drill up there. Gunners can use ziplines to get to high up veins. Engis can use platforms to jump up to get to them. There wasn't a ton of nitra this week, but my group was never completely starved of it either. Still, it might be easier with just 2-3 players.
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God the EDD this week is rough. Even in stage two I felt like it was just swarmers constantly.
stage 3 has about 3 resups, id say thats normal
but the lack of surplus stage 1 makes it tough
yea having only 2 for the first stage makes it a little tight
It really does feel like you have to build around stage one.
Ammo efficiency is a big deal for it. Something like driller running Sticky Fuel OC to roast enemies alive in the tunnels, Scout with Zhukovs running Embedded Detonators for dozer rocks, stuff like that.
Randomly generated dreadnought on EDD stage two
when we were already gasping for ammo
RIP
haven't even fought the actual dread yet
looking to join a group for my first deep dive as a gunner. anyone need a 4th?
my friend and i somehow managed to duo the edd. driller + scout
plenty of nitro for the two of us
is mission control ok
im looking for resources (as in, videos, clips, playthrough, builds) for soloing EDD as scout or driller
if anyone is experienced or know a few things about soloing, i welcome your thoughts and insights
it doesnt matter if it's hard or harder, im willing to play and learn even if it means failing a lot lol
lol you can literally type "edd driller solo" on youtube
This weeks DD was cake, didn’t die or take a resup in the first stage. Died once in the second stage while reviving. 347 kills as gunner
yeah, given the biome I was expecting the refinery mission to be a slog
but cavegen was nice this time around
EDD was pretty okay too, for the most part; i got it on the first try, unlike the previous two
I kinda get what people were saying about the Nitra, though. I had like 2 pods worth used and ~34 leftover for stage 1, although I guess the feeling of being low on resources is understandable given it's Escort as the first stage and that generally requires you to use 2 pods minimum
but since it's Escort that can be assuaged with predrilling so you're not trying to mine it while under fire
Stage 2, I'm torn between it being scarce Nitra or if I just didn't have much time to breathe between swarms and mini-waves
like it still had like 4 pods worth of Nitra or close to that? but the Low Oxygen really restricts your ability to outrun the attrition and deal with bugs efficiently
hey, im looking for some one to do the elite deep dive with me ? any volunteers ?
Your best bet is the #lfg channel for your platform
EDD EZ PZ, next plz
I'm pretty sure they are randomly generated
no I generate them
okay, thx dude, rock n stone
this weeks EDD was a rush
was doing it duo with a gunner and driller, last mission driller went for the eggs in the ceiling while i covered him from ambushes, when the swarm hit we started getting overwhelmed, driller died to a mactera on the hill, and i had to kite the whole swarm around the room with a sliver of HP to survive
our driller got downed in the egg cluster too lol
How about a duo, mon amour? 👀
@latent basin Also no, I'm not stalking you or anything. I was just innocently browsing this chat when I saw a familiar name. Best person to ask for advice for solo Scout EDD would be fellow 🥖 @marble veldt I guess. He can surely provide some thoughtful insights if you're nice :)))
WHO SUMMONED M- Oh hey marsii 👋
I have three videos of a solo EDD
You wound me marsii... How could you not know
😭
Perfect. Trinx is the best person ever, they deserve to see them
@latent basin No commentary tho, I'm not too keen on that. But I'm open to questions
Will DM the whole thing to them
elite deep dive stage 2, does the drop pod come down on spawn?
drop pod location isn't fixed, it can vary based on dwarf location
Ah thank you!
though in general there seem to be only a handful of locations where a pod will drop
Oh okay, thank you!
Easiest edd i have ever played in my life
First edd this week i failed cuz the scout was being inattentive and just kept beating himself up in chat instead of learning from the like 20 downs
also decided to abandon molly, the oxygen producer
second time was super brutal, like it was all swarms all the time
we had to scrape nitra to have enough but we won that, thank god stage 3 is easy
Extreme deep dive for me was uhhh lmao. So many swarms, especially during the escort segment, then we get to the second stage and are barely getting by with nitra and we start having issues finding the rest of the morkite but it was still doable... Then a random dreadnought spawned... Twas the twins as well
random dreadnought is some other wordly shit
‘Erm, we seem to have an issue. The scanners show a Glyphid Dreadnaught heading your way. I think it picked up on the scent of your low ammo.’
you have reached the lootbug kill threshold
What now
Howdy howdy everyone 😄
"Secondary objective completed."
😭
besides deep dives whats another way to get overclocks?
You can get them doing weekly core assignments
Play during special events
You’ll get like 2 or something
Getting ready to try my first elite deep dive, anything i should know before I jump in? 😄
check pins to know what objects/mutators to expect 😂
ideally be able to handle haz 5
It's basically just regular deep dive but with a higher difficulty. As Chuck said, you should be comfortable with Haz 5 before attempting one. The three stages are H4.5, 5 and 5.5.
I dont believe 5.5 makes the bugs any faster, but they get a little tankier
also know that you can leave dwarfs behind if you absolutely must
if they are stupid or you are already in the pod
Dwarven space magic teleports them into the drop pod
at the end of the stage
Will they still get the cores?
yes
nice
as long as the stage is "completed" by somebody
We had most trouble in stage 2, drop pod spawned in bad place
Some menace and acid spitter spawned and the route to it was uphill plus it was a sandstorm
Only me (driller) and scout got out
handy tips, thanks
Fr, always when you're fucked on ammo as well
the start of the praetorian swarm warning sounds a bit like the dread one
that always gets me
yeah we got two praet swarms back to back in EDD stage 2, we moved so slow through the chambers that we ended up tanking a swarm in each of the first three chambers and fought the twins in the fourth chamber
as a bonus though, it meant we left supply drops in each chamber so O2 wasn't a problem when molly inevitably wallwalked her way to attempted dwarven asphyxiation
we did manage to get exactly 240 nitra in stage 1, and had sufficient nitra overall through the stages despite 4(!) supply drops in stage 2
does these game have local saves or u can switch between PC with same progress?
Wrong chat
But depends on what platform you're playing on. The game has local and cloud saves, and you can switch your progress files manually only if you're changing from steam to windows/xbox and vice-versa
what if I switch from PC to PC with same steam
Cloud saves should help you with that, no manual switching needed
oki
ya low oxy always takes forever, I kept thinking "we have to go we have to go" every time we spent too long in a cave lol
thankfully we had an old zipline when Molly did the 90 degree special
Yeah I'd say the 3rd stage just took me by surprise
Mf spitballers everywhere
And I accidentally dropped down on my own with no ammo
Awakening every single fukin enemy in that cave
Yea I don’t know why teammates decided to have a nap in 3rd stage
The cave was very deceiving
I was engie so I was alright with the the stupid swarmers
It didnt seem that hostile till you actually got in it
We were 4 gunners
I dont know how we failed
But I had no ammo
So that's my excuse
Yea that 3rd stage was weird
We cruised 1st and 2nd
I think my teammates dove right in and got gunned down by spitballers and swarmers
It just went tits up for no reason
But such is the last stage for EDD
Yeah that happened to me
But I didnt mean to dive in
I just fell in
With no ammo
Yea giant hole bruh
Oof
Worst part is there was a cave that lead up around to dirt up top right
But there was stone blocking the tunnel
Sadge
But ima attempt again later with better friends
Should be ezpz
We do haz 5s always
Just ps cant get any harder than haz 5
Definitely need a engie or driller for the shear amount of swarmers
Eh gunner with thunderhead worked pretty well
We had like 3 of em
Just needed a class for high dps
Like engi
Fat boy and explosive chemical rounds
Would have been much easier
Turrets
2 turrets also yes
Mines
The cavegen for egg hunt missions almost always seems to spawn with an opening into a bigger chamber from the drop zone. Never understood why folks /have/ to use that opening when there's a perfectly good path from the drop zone into that chamber by just digging through the dirt and walking down the tunnel. Keeps you from ziplining into TPK on higher haz
I find stubby with em discharge works great on edd
Cool kids zip line though
😎
indeed
Spider-Man
Yes
like a good greybeard on EDD s3 I tried to shepherd our team of...brownbeards?...away from the attractive zipline and towards the tunnel, but it took scout and driller going down in the blind cavern to get engi to follow me down the tunnel
I feel like if you play long enough you start just doing the dumbest shit
there's definitely some leeroy mmmjenkins going through my head from time to time that leads me to dumb stuff
(I do try to contain those urges on late EDD stages tho)
I do enjoy the thrill of potentially sabotaging an hour long mission
shitbeards
dunning-kruger
I know i shouldn't jump into the enemy swarm with cold radiance but....

The edd second stage was bad. Died twice from the amount of swarms that popped up. We somehow beat it with a green beard with no OCs
I felt the hidden swarm modifier was cranked pretty high
consistently large swarms on all stages
even for haz 5
Yea the last stage was still swarmagedden even if it wasn’t officially there
ya I noticed lots of swarmer spawns outside of stage 1 lol
my brother thought it was stage 3 alrdy while it was just stage 2 and spammed his cluster nades inside droppod killing 3 of us lol
idiot
I thought you were damage immune inside drop pod (on the pad not the door)
idk its weird sometimes
maybe we were too close to door idk
maybe thats why 1 survived lol
but he was out of nades and we had like no health
at least it wasnt very hard this week
you're not damage immune, you just have high damage resistance (and maybe high shield regen like inside a gunner shield, I forget on the last part)
usually it means you won't die, but it's definitely possible to if you take a big enough hit or are low enough to start with
there's always a first time for everything
I know freeze threshold stays similar
and there's the dmg sounds
so there's definetly something being applied
Asked this question back in July in the wiki channel about damage reduction when standing in the drop pod...consensus was that the game data shows a 100x damage reduction (incoming damage is divided by 100).
So it is possible to take damage. For example, being within the sphere of a bulkdet's "final blow" effect (like if you kill one clinging to the pod) will kill dwarves in the safe zone of the pod on medium/high haz levels. (It does 30000 damage on 4p haz 3 / 68000 damage on 4p haz 5, so 300/680 damage in safe zone of pod)
(Reference here: #wiki-related-chatroom message )
Cluster grenade does 360 damage if all bomblets hit, so max damage of 4x cluster grenades on a dwarf in the safe zone on Haz 5 would be:
4 grenades x 360 damage x 0.70 H5 FF mult / 100 = about 10 net damage
kinda surprised it killed a dwarf TBH, maybe a bug
So what to do when Molly is stuck on EDD...
you can dig out under her if she's stuck in the mission and that will fix sometimes
or engi can shoot plats under her
didnt work 😦
tried both of those?
weird. might ask in #bug-discussion for other tips
haven't seen that bug crop up in a while
used to be pretty common and those were the fixes
if you can get platforms under her and stand on the plat next to her and call her sometimes that will make her sit down there
basically call on the same spot she's already at
I have never seen it get stuck
thats hilarious, imagine failing because of that
is the deep dive (and elite) enemy count dependant on how many players there are?
If you finish the mission and she doesn't get unstuck, she automatically teleports at the last 30 seconds.
yes
Yeah, I think the problem is that if molly gets stuck in the walking motion before drop pod is called then you can’t deposit objectives
is the deep dive still the broken one with dodgy morkite?
good
anyone have tips for this week's edd
like what the biggest threats are
judging by the mission types, scout and driller are the most useful
Bro so many swarmers
That’s all
I play the game with multiple irl friends so communication is a non-issue
sticky flame
Watch the ceiling, a couple of leeches
i'm good at killing those with my scout
i'm running heightened senses but i'll keep an eye out
But all of that’s basically just general advice. Specifically, 100% prioritize sand sharks on part 2
ok
I got wiped three times
if ur playing with ppl you know, i don’t think it’ll be that useful
You'd be surprised
Actually probably better to swap that because it’s only a couple sneaky bastards
Plus it's funny instakilling grabbers at the end of missions
...But you guys are probably right
There’s one that gets you in the Ommorran room
Iron will it is
i only use heightened senses when soloing edd nowadays
just cus elite grabber is scary
I'll be running my usual (totally not overpowered) setup of hipster m1k and ED zhukovs
Definitely build for ammo. Ammo is a bit tight on this run
That’s essentially what I run. You may want to take the T1 ammo if you don’t already
you might have trouble with swarmers, unless you really trust ur team
that's okay, i'm great at using the joestar family secret technique
running away?
fair ig
Anyway yeah, main specific dangers are ammo and sand sharks
I like having one of each class for EDDs
The sharks are a real bitch in the narrow halls on part 2
And you get just enough resupplies
I'll out-bitch the bitchsharks
Yes the one-hit is really nice
Way better than something like hollow bough, magma core or glacial strata
those stages can succ pp
MC is a bitch on EDDs
agreed
Also a bitch on 3/3 or 2/3 refinery missions
And they kept busting them and leaving burning floor everywhere
Randoms moment
Plus they were really needed for swarm clear
I don't think I'll ever trust randoms on edds
Ehh I manage
brb
glacial strata is the easiest biome to me, simply because frost pratorians are push overs
I disagree that glacial strata is the easiest; I hate the generation and the blizzard is annoying too
the hardest thing about it is the jellies
everything else isn’t too bad
pratorians being passive creatures makes it feel way more forgiving
I also hate those
I don't like how enemies resist cryo stuff
Everything about icebox is just annoying
I once encountered an actually impossible EDD stage 2
the best part about the wettest part of hoxxes is that you get to slip around on ice
I kinda wish you could do that more
cryo honestly feels the same in glacial
how so
Well not actually impossible but pretty damn close
it was low O2 and we had no choice but to drill our way to the drop pod which was around 160m away from us
the tunnels were extremely thin to get from one room to another
did molly go up a resupply hole
like, barely a dwarf tall and wide
lmao probably
molly walked into an impenetrable wall of bugs and we didnt have the time to chase after her
it was just a really shitty situation
no amount of bugs is impenetrable
yes but they slowed us all down so much that we ran out of oxygen or died to bugs
you cud say it was very hard but not impossible
yes
i had an actually impossible edd a few years ago
but to put across the point of just how hard it is i exaggerated and said it was impossible :)
the morkite was glitched inside the drop pod on stage 3. Was very annoying cus i was solo ing it
oof
Anyone looking to put together an EDD?
I am if you still are
just had a team of greenbeards do great right up until the end of second stage, when scout decided to come back for us instead of book it straight to the pod
was doing 2p for this EDD, and it was one of my friends first EDD (he also doesn't play haz5), and we were doing so well until second stage, I drilled back to a previous room so we could get the remaining resupply, he died to a leech back in the old room ~100m away, and a swarm started so I couldn't get through the tunnel back, while also needing molly for oxygen
in the end we actually did clutch it out, solod the swarm, then died 5 times against the twins while he carried
first time he ever finished an edd
feels good man
should be np, dont even have escort in normal dd
salvage last stage for DD, but it is DD, so yeah
it'll be fine 😂 if you are good enough
good thing escort is edd stage 1 😂
I'm going for Engi actually
escort+swarmageddon, no way id solo that on scout lol
stage 1 edd (swarmageddon + escort) is literally the entire reason I played driller this week
refinery was just a bonus
Jk went for scout with M1k and zhukov hehehe
Is it me or is this EDD super easy, like nothing very dangerous in it.
was easy but that huge cliff drop got me off guard lol
but yeah compared to last week it was supereasy for me
First run was 4 ppl, second map 3ppl and last map only me and driller left, driller got over 1k kills roasting those swarmers and triggering every nest 
wonder when the next hollow bough shield disrupt edd is around lol
these tend to be nasty
Gunner with toxic canone also good af there 
yeah ntp makes most stuff easy
i usually run scout on edd
cause having a bad scout makes it take forever
Engi who not place plats on hard to reach by scout nitra just as bad 😩
i run hoverclock so aslong as its not over my head i can mine it
i have more trust in random people joining normal haz5 games than edd
every1 wants the ocs from edd so i set myself on maximum carry potential and thats scout for me
Guess who forgot to swap out field medic and now has a useless active
Do machine events and things in general spawn in deep dives? I don't remember anymore
yes pass each stage
Add worst modifications to make it less op 
if ur lucky bosco even shoots leech fast enough to save u without revive
MGS alert sound for leech op af lol
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don't die
spicy hot take: probably shouldn't bring new secondaries into edd until you are comfortable with them
nothing stopping you from do it, but might struggle with secondaries this different from par
I will take the new secondaries into the edd and i dont care if theyre the definition of bad

you do you
I usually bring gunner and use AoE autocannon so coil gun doesn't have a huge impact for me
new goo is good enough to carry me through haz 5 despite coletta 
I am actually very interested in Collette, probably the most outside of the lazer
because of the fire synergy
but then I will have basically no option versus ceiling menace lol
and VIM was carrying me before with goo lol
anyone know what is like ticking statue ?
its karls drop pod
How to do omen he die me always
step 1 learn proper english
platforms above the plates so the lasers dont get you
tell engineer to make platforms above the access pads
Omen is a problem and I wouldn't do it on a deep dive unless you're experienced with it.
BUT, if you want to do it.
... not sure if troll
highly recommend shooting the plama wave thing first
across from key is the platform that will enable the bottom (IE: purple lasers)
I don't think machine events spawn on deep dives...
hmm
nothing "extra" besides bet-c spawns on deep dives
no helmets, cargo crates, korlok, crassus detonator, machine events, prospector, data cell archive, etc.
caretaker in dd 
'magine getting a prospector in there
oh today is wednesday
soon
would gunner or scout be better for this week’s dive?
That ticking statue is natural selection
only thing I can think of is a data deposit
solo?
there's some high up nitra but if you are solo bosco can handle it
so id say gunner?
is this gunner loadout good for the EDD?
21212 Thinned Drum Walls
21321 Clean Hit
Solo?
I did gunner solo and was on the verge of death many times
can u eventually upgrade everything in perks?
you will get more than enough points to unlock all perks
okii
just in general
i have too much perk points now
I wish I could donate my perk points
just need new perks to spend on
chain hit is kinda mediocre imo
and thinned drum walls is ok but you have no real swarm clear
especially with no blowthrough rounds
if u want a swarm clear revolver, take the classic magic bullets+neurotoxin bullets+explosive bullets combo
minigun build isn't bad itself but I think there are better ocs
with the revolver
definefly take ammo instead of dmg mods
its only 10 extra damage
i only have homebrew powder and clean hit
everyone tells me to not use burst

homebrew is pretty good
who is everyone
burst pistol is very good, breakpoints are nice it has lots of ammo
literally everyone i have consulted about gunner builds says to use bulldog
homebrow rng is annoying
well
I reccomend brt
especially if you have minigun
and you dont have magic pullets
doesn’t really mess with breakpoints when low balling and the range is very favorable 80% to 200%. I prefer it over elephant rounds
but with burst fire i have
Composite Casings, Full Chamber Seal, Compact Mags, Lead Spray and Electro Minelets
The rule of thumb is, one weapon for swarm clear, one for single target
wtf its 200%?
I swear it was 140
compact mags and lead spray are both very good
lead spray is very good
lead spray deletes big targets and compact mags is a great all rounder
i typically run 23232 composite
idk who tf ur talking to bro
like i said it’s a very good range. High balls are very noticeable and it doesn’t screw with breakpoints as much as you’d think
ya cuz one shot faces still
thanks for telling me lol
weird how homebrew isn't uniform
It makes a surprising amount of sense
ye it’s weird, bulldog has the best version by far
Most revolvers can take significantly more chamber pressure than automatics
Due to the solid cylinder design
boi the bulldog fires autocannon rounds
ok back to the discussion of my EDD build
on minigun i have: Thinned Drum Walls, Compact Feed Mechanism, Burning Hell, Exhaust Vectoring, Bullet Hell and Lead Storm
on autocannon i have: Splintering Shells, Combat Mobility and Big Bertha
what loadout is good for the shit ton of swarmers in the EDD
I mean its named the same thing, so you'd assume it is the same overclock, I think its on 3+ weapons and subata is 140 too
burning hell is extremely strong
22123 splintering shells or combat mobility if you arent confident in kiting
burning hell would help with swarmers but only up close
pair that with single target brrt
which is the only time swarmers matter
then in terms of burning hell what mods do i pack with it
true but I want them dead before I have to worry about them biting my Achilles tendon
it’s just a very good overall oc, although it is probably the worst for dreads
accuracy, ammo and aggressive venting. Everything else is whatever
actually even tier 1 is kind of whatever
edd has dread twins 
it’s still good, just not as good as the damage ocs. Also i lied, bullet hell is probably worse for dreads
shouldn't have to build around one dread when 95% of the missions will not involve them
lead spray for burst dmg, compact mags for sustain and general use
weakpoint dmg, accuracy, stun,
100%
eh
weakpoint dmg let’s you delete everything
I'm usually stick shooting the dumbass menace and maybe 1/5 shots is hitting its face/sacs
weakpoint is the only thing i’d say is not optional
I think accuracy is more important for brt
lead spray already has a shit ton of ammo for the dmg it can dish out
with weakpoint dmg you can burst down menaces and pratorians really goddam fast
the accuracy decrease is really nothing
oh thatz the uh
ammo mod tier
accuracy is t1
I'll try weakpoint out tonight but I am often shoved into situations where I can't take advantage of the weakpoints and also 120 ammo
I havent used revolver in a while so im not used to not having oodles of ammo
the only times more ammo helps is menaces
everything else weakpoint dmg shreds
i can still hit weakpoints on menaces within a certain range anyways
menaces are usually what im using brrt on lmao
thats more preference
21312 Burning Hell should be fine then right
personally I'd do 21311
because you are trying to overheat
no
last upgrade is 1
always
i thought you use burst pistol with ac. Don’t u use burst on prats, wardens, oppressors and bulks?
I pray to Allah that someone else is taking care of them
because I have killed every grunt
but you have a good point
that would be if im using 21313 for the fire shots
but ive already got burning hell
so im using 21312 to stay in the fight longer
never use cold as the grave with burning hell
it’s by far the worst option
if warden is not visible there is no optoon
dont kills with burning hell also cool down the gun
If i only used lead spray on menaces i wud never run out of ammo with it
yes but sustain is not needed with burning hell
aggressive venting is literally just a free shield
hot bullets is free dps
weapon overheats faster
you sure i dont need sustain?
that sounds like itll get me killed
over heating faster is a good thing with AV
use it trust me
i dont want to because i hate overheat mechanics
its shorter and much more workable with venting
you are going to overheat anyways and the heat gen makes trying to sustain harder and lowers ur dps because you will spend more time cooling
if i die because im unable to shoot im blaming both of you
you have a secondary
in that situation I'd take ammo instead of weakpoint lol
cuz u might be stuck not shooting weakpoints but I digress
no ill still shoot the warden with brrt lol, its just not always close or visible
also I dont lead spray grunts why would I if I have splash god ac
how i can promotion my hero?
Wrong chat, #drg-chat is the place
Wrong chat #drg-chat is the place.
the fear effect from AV lasts as long as the overheat
how much time is left for the deep dives?
like a day i think
They reset at Thursday 7:00am EST
if you dont like overheat you probably shouldnt be using burning hell
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@trim wren why would you do something that dumb, you are now muted
it’s just base gun
you must vent gregory
That was evil soloing the regular Deep Dive stage 3. Two elite Praetorians + Oppressor and mission control keeps telling me to stay in the triangulation zone. Yeah right
Need 2 more for both deep dives. message GrimmWhiskey on Xbox.
LF EDD PC
#lfg-steam , and ask there instead
Thanks didnt see it
Ah, its soon time.
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"New %!s(<nil>)Deep Dives%!s(<nil>) will be available in one hour!"
could i hypothetically squeeze a DD run in the 5 hours or so before new update drops
mm probably unlikely
well, the bot mentioned new deep dives
ye
but will there be even newer deep dives when the season 2 drops
thereby i could hypothetically run a deep dive in the 5 hour window between
what are "even newer deep dives"
like uhhhh just another generated deep dive different from the last
it's always like that and to me "new deep dive" means exactly that
ye but like i know a deep dive drops in like half an hour
but is it gonna generate a completely different one when season 2 update hits
isn't season 2 the same time as the new deep dives drop?
nope
deep dives drop in half an hour timer
season 2 timer in the season pass terminal says 5 more hours

oh, my bad
msg in #lfg-steam
Ah
Quickly solo it
Ez pz
The hardest objective this week was the drill dozer
The low oxygen cave was pretty easy to navigate
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Have fun everyone
update should be live with the new dd
DUE TO Season 2 Release, Deep Dives are near Identical, but Rival Presence is Swarmageddon 
DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Deadman's Fence
Stage 1:
250 Morkite +
2 Eggs |
No Mutators
Stage 2:
2 M.U.L.E.s +
2 Eggs |
Low Gravity
Mactera Plague
Stage 3:
4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box |
Cave Leech Cluster
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Decayed Heart
Stage 1:
3 M.U.L.E.s +
150 Morkite |
Rival Presence
Stage 2:
2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Classic) +
150 Morkite |
Parasites
Stage 3:
250 Morkite +
Dreadnought Hiveguard |
No Mutators
I think so
I hope so
Would be a great introduction to it 
Oh boy rivel in EDD this is going to hurt.
EDD 2nd = kill 2 dreadnoughts + 150 morkite / parasites
Oh god
Legend
Was the new enemy type there by any chance?
huh
It can also be a random spawn, so it's really up to RNG, but I don't think it's guaranteed in this Dive (So Far)
Ok thanks for the info!
OK 2 eggs and mules with low gravity and mactera plague, could an issue
Oh wait other way round, that going to be an issue
Well...I wonder if this means console gets a different edd
I wonder if it's different maps, or the same without rivals
EDD 2nd dreadnoughts is hiveguard + classic
Potentially entirely different
If you use cryo you get destroyed by the robots if you use flamethrower you get destroyed by dreads 
Fuck rival presence
They could've at least kept it out of dd's
I love new stuff
But everyone's argument for bots being hard was "well, you prepare accordingly"
It it was DD maybe but EDD is just scary as hell
But now I will either be useless entire stage(cryo driller)
Or just not play my main
It's fine, I mean the new Mineral is in DD Stage 2, so this dive could be erased tomorrow anyway 😢
I assume RP is a pain for today's edd?
Bruh
I know lmao
Volatile impact mixture it is
If you are into that
EDD 3rd = 250 morkite + 1 dreadnought / no mutators
time to bring the sludge supremacy
I'll be dreaming of dreads tonight
Time to bring out face melter
Won't be great against the 3 dreads but since face melter is about that direct damage...I guess?
What I love about sludge pump and the driller itself is the reliance on DoT weapons and effects
I would absolutely bring goo gun, just to test the thing out, but I love it for it's ability to slow large group of enemies
Not for direct damage
+I don't think I have volatile impact, I have dispenser or whatever maximizes puddles amount
I'm just very sad
They basically made a whole class useless
Not class, but rather subclass
Cryo driller
Do you have ice storm
After such a long time and absurd amounts of bad luck with driller overclocks not even being an option at core infusers I finally got tuned cooler
And forced to not use it
edd 3rd dreadnought is hive guard
rip
Oof
do we know what the console DD's are yet?
the randoms im trying to join jsut finished their mission but im still fucking loading
Its not the same as pc?
Oh just saw the pinned nvm
first mission of DD is the same
second is too
im curious about the first mission of the EDD
cuz we dont have rival presence yet
DD lookin pretty mild tbh. I dig it
yup same as last week, very easy 👍
really not looking forward to 3 dreads in hte edd tho
2 hiveguards.....
Hate to jinx it, but no Low O2 or a haunted cave in the DD for a long while
Im too much of a pleb for EDDs so im not concerned lol
we had low oxy last week
oh ya, low oxy for the edd
ive never had teh misfortune to deal with haunted caves tho
DD had haunted cave i wanna say about a month ago
Feels like im handicapping myself in collecting OCs by not even trying EDDs but i am just not willing to sweat that much lol
first mission isn't sweaty
second is usually pretty hard
and u have to cross ur fingers the third one is the best modifiers and objectives uve ever seen or ur not finishing it
eh
I've had some pretty simple edd in the past
all depends on your comfort level with haz 5
Oh nice, looks like we’ll get to meet Nemmy right off the bat in EDD
the tears shall flow
and crab shall grab
Time For Crab
dios mio, rival presence
tbh grabbing the edd hypercarry then flooding a small corridor with bombs doesnt sound fun
because the bombs aren't guaranteed to be spread out like in a sabotage boss cave
genuine challenge
the prospect of nemesis on uplink scares me
yeah new update crashed alot and try to install mod
rival presence EDD.. is some ugly shit man
rival presence on the edd is impossible
check pinned message in #bug-discussion
some real nasty stage 1 this week
driller literally doesn't have a primary weapon choice
you either go with the flamer or you die
2 bulks 2 nemeses
3
and a lot of death
3 nemesis
we didn't get to the 3rd one :/
I tried 2 times, 3rd time we saw that there are actually 3 of them
how naive I was thinking that at least I'll be free from the robots during dives
they have to do something in order to at least give driller a chance against bots with primaries other than the flamer

