#deep-dive-discussion
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As long as you build your set of weapons to cover every threats accordingly, you're fine
wait i do have em discharge, is it really that good
Pretty great cc
nothing wrong with it, its just not a weapon i liked using,
Personal favorite of mine.
Fair enough.
What secondary are you normally using doug?
breach cutter
Ah.
60 AoE damage + AoE electrocution, yeah it's very good but weird to use
WoM stubby normally wants some big chunky swarm clear to use it to it’s full potential.
emd is crazy good yeah, just have to get used to using it
Is it just me or stage 3 EDD was a bit hairy
1st time I was challenged on EDD for a long time
It really is.
damn
Don’t know if I got lucky or no, but barely any swarms or swarmers for me.
Message came up
dude those little ants were the hardest thing ever
Only like 20 bugs
they literally killed me twice by themselves
The swarmers or the parasites?
We got swarms with rapid intervals
i dont know the names, the ones that crawl on the ground and there are like 50 of them
The swarmers can be hazardous.
the flying ones were also VERY annoying, but thankfully with the grappling hook i just rushed it down at the start
Sounds like swarmers. They do be swarming.
mactera plague is my worst enemy i swear
Hence I like the chemical rounds on the Lok1. The initial explosion usually wipes out bigger groups of them.
if you play solo, you can take the cryo enchantment on bosco's rockets, then you tell bosco to shot one at them, and they instantly die
the hard part is getting 3 locks on one swarmer
actually the real hard part is getting ecr in the first place
if i were to play driller for the edd, should i use flamethrower or sludge pump?
As soon as I see a 3 I let loose.
is there any shit generation in the edd like stage 2 in the dd
Define "shit generation".
the morkite
No.
ok thanks
no awful generation, but the twin dreadnaught was pretty tough cause its in an area of constant fire torrents
You fought them at the bottom? I went back to the entrance cave.
ah, well, you see, im dum
:)))
i kept grappling hooking from one side to another
cant play this game without the hook
Guess you got hooked?

Actually had one of my favorite deep dives this week
Paired up with a solid af scout and we tore up EDD
I effed up in stage 3 and he clutched it back
So have they fixed the dive?
Fixed? It was never broken for non-greenbeards 
🤔
anyone have any issues with the second stage of the regular deep dive?
yes, pretty much everyone
leave no pixel of morkite behind
dude this last stage of edd is driving me nuts
i feel like i get through a hoard only to get less than 30 seconds of down time for another hoard
I was just barely able to squeeze by
Same 149/150
there is 1 speck of morkite at the back of the end room
got all of it and still
did yall find it?
I hate that. Spent a hour on second stage. 139/150.
I think I know what you're talking about
First stage also glitched and made us fail even if we escaped successfully
Jankiest deep dive ever
opposite the drilldozer
Yeah
on the left side of the room
there should be 2-3 crevices on the wall, it's on the side of one of them
holy hell I barely made it out with doretta's head
Ok so
Looking forwards in the same direction as doretta
It's on my left
nine o clock?
for me the little bit at the end was directly across the room from the drilldozer hole
I just went straight ahead
I gave up
Can I keep doing deep dives for overclocks?
Really cool how I can find 1 morkite when I have 149 morkite in the mule and the game just decides not to count it
Cool deep dive
to be clear; 1 blank, 1 random weapon, 1 cosmetic, PER deep dive, per week.
and by per deep dive.. I mean 1 DD, 1 EDD.
and the weekly core hunt
do deep dive drop pods spawn in the same location for everyone?
yes
at least if you mean when entering the level
if you mean the one for leaving though, no, it's based on the position of your team
ah ok, was watching a vid and noticed their exit one was in a slightly different spot from mine. same room though.
all deep dives have the same preset map
until they change every week
elite and regular have different maps tho
or bring an sfx replacer
For elite deep dives and I required to have a good build with overclocks cause I haven’t been the luckiest
Guys im at the end of my deep dive and my hivegaurd isnt hiveguarding (wont summon minions) do I just wait it out more? Been waiting a minutr or two and its just walking around, not even attacking
melee it
no you dont
ive done edds with vanilla no oc weapons
any tips for 3rd part of edd? ive died on it twice, i feel like hoards are just spawning back to back and i dont even have time to do any of the objective
swarmers waves will spawn regularly indeed so prepare some good AoE
Other than that, make sure to be careful when repairing the mule : approaching a mule and digging a leg will both spawn enemies
in about 10-20 seconds
so communicate instead of dropping 3 mini swarms on yourself
also the cave is kinda shit
Minigun vs Thunderhead? Which is better if im soloing?
thunderhead wave clear
thanks
take single target secondary
ok
This worked for some reason
yeah, don't question it, his AI is broken
Was super woried an hour went down the drain
Got through the DD with no morkite issues.
this week the dreadnought arblest bugged out for us and spammed projectiles for like 10 seconds straight
wait so do i wanna get near the mule and legs solo so the waves dont overlap
uh
one at a time
basically
you will not have time to pull all 3 legs and repair before they are on you
usually
What i did for the mini mules was start repairing and grapple away as necesarry becuase scout gaming
that might be because you're on the microsoft versions
Steam for sure and maybe playstation but not sure for that one
nothing on ps
Maybe. I'm unsure of the exact morkite amounts per platform. I thought the deep dives were exactly the same across the board.
Gotta say though, this feep dive was blessed with nitra, held out on valling a resupply on stage 1 and had 400+ nitra by stage 3
has the soft lock been fixed?
Deep*
console and steam versions have different generation
deep dive level gen is very similar but for some reason some level gen elements are different between platforms
no
thanks
The reason is consoles being limited in cave generation so the code is slightly different
Now that I didn't know.
it's made so older generation won't struggle performance-wise
less big rather than less complex
Well thank gods cause I'm on the older generation.
Thanks Store's, for not selling or stocking the new Xbox.
Love ya.
Love checking the cave top to bottom for 6 morkite for an hour only to discover other people are having the issue
pls sir, just a crumb of morkite
Is it with or without the dark morkite beer? 
i did without, guess ill have to do it again with
im doing it without
and im at 149 too
the other guy here said he had the same problem twice too
oh
Can we be compensated for our efforts? I really wanted a weapon overclock :/
Whats a solid gunner build for EDD this week
it looks like it can be done, but you need to be really clean with the veins and get lucky possiblly
Just lost a really rough EDD on stage 3, sadly had to pull a lot of weight for the team the whole time and went down after uplink stage as last alive with nobody on IW
Yeah but i dont feel luck should be a factor
I had about 1400 kills with 6 downs, and everyone else on 18+ downs barely cracking 600 :/
Tbf, not the easiest map for the greener beards playing with us
bad cave gen, maybe devs will fix it later
It's def just cave gen shenanigans
Machine events and Omaron are the main causes of the jank
as they just tear out huge chunks of terrain with little regard for anything around them 
had a floating oil well in the middle of a huge open cave because a machine event spawned under it, so no surprise that this week's Dive got slightly soft locked by omaron.
there isn't enough morkite on the second stage of the normal deep dive
anyone else have this issue?
yeah i did too, had to abort mission after an hour of searching
yes scroll up we've been talking about it for a while buddy
fun glitch
dont devs test each deep dive?
we were also at 149
so fucking infuriating lol, everyone gave up
can you carry some morkite in your inventory from the previous mission?
nope
so we have to wait for the beer?
Seems so.
We managed to find the full 150 but we were at 149 until after the heartstone
had to scrounge up in that vertical midcave
someone ping me when morkite beer comes online if you see it
it wasn't there in our dive; had to abort
thought deep dives were the same for everyone, how is it that people are missing 1 or 3 or 4 morkite pieces after mining everything? are the ore veins slightly different sizes? (assuming no dark morkite buff)
likely
yes
we have bees searching for 20 mins
idiotic ED honestly. 149 morkite, could not find more after an hour of searching
Cave gen did an oopsie
you maybe could do it with dark morkite beer, haven't tried it myself
oh thats smart
Just started one with Dark Morkite, hope it works.
aborted at 149 morkite
the beer is live, try again
We got to 149 and just cleaned every tiny bit until it rounded us up to 1 more
yeah we did the same last time but it wasn't enough
149.9 morkite, but never 150
same
half hour trying to find it
sadly, cant finish the normal DD now
i did it with the morkite beer
one
ight
but the 150 morikite is impossible
i have dark morkite rn
Escort Missions are always 1 stop in Deep Dives
oh thank god others are talking about this
theres some in a corner of the doretta room. unsure if its the same for others, i assume it is. but theres some in the left corner of the room. i can provide a screenshot if necessary
alright
Devs are probably gonna reroll the Dive when they got some time
it's very small isn't it
because I mined it and still got stuck earlier
I aborted earlier than some others and just did it later in the day, when dark morkite was available
Everyone's talking about these tiny bits in the omaran room and I've found nothing.
Been in this missions for like an hour now. And returned "1" morkite like 4 times now, but still stuck at 149
should be the same cause dds are seeded, i did it with dark morkite but it mightve been doable without if you make extra sure everything is mined
i wonder if itd be easier using the mod that gives morkite glow, wouldnt be vanilla though
one on right side of ommeran NOT in the ravine bit
its VERY VERY small but it got us over the edge. we did nto use dark morkite
I'm thinking we got fucked by some rounding issues or some stray gunner bullets destroying the tiny non-bein
also some about halfway through in a small room in hole in the ceiling
imagine if it wasnt stage 1 but stage 3...
its stage 2 right
Yeah, stage 2. Aborted after 1:39.
couldn't see the ground anymore because of all the flares everywhere
edd is super hard too, though i might just be bad at the game
died 37 times and wiped in last stage
even after 3 iron wills
wheres the EDD this week?
lava
i quickly found out that cryo didnt make lava ground cold
magma core is an experience, especially on elite deep dive
i shouldve taken my sticky flames ammo efficient build
pretty sure enemies in the magma core are resilient to fire but i could be wrong on that
you taking cryo wasnt that bad of an idea
saw quite a lot of bugs die to the environment, dont think so
imagine if they added a magma praetorian though
the problem is that it was near impossible to kill the swarms
sticky flames (with slowdown) means i can lay down a line that swarmers die if they cross
oh right swarmers
sticky flames seems really good i should try to make a sticky flames build
idk if i can post my build here
no worries
13221 with compact feed valves OC
Interesting choice of OC for a Sticky Flames build
is targets exploding on the flamethrower even good
i assume yes but ive seen nobody run it
Heeeeeh...
It would be better if it didn't have terrible falloff
i got both sticky flames OCs but i like to have big fueltanks
At least it's useful against clumped up groups of swarmers or naedocytes
aaah
i noticed it said it works on swarmers and that has my attention
then again heat radiance kinda does too
i mean 8 seconds of sticky duration, 75rd tanks and 375 total ammo makes for a pretty useful build
heat radiance is nice cause it works all around you
so stuff that sneaks up on your back can also burn
yea heat radiance is just really good
i tried the exploder perk but i rarely saw it working unlike running fragile on cryo
so uh my team was stuck on 149 morkite
Didn't know something was wrong until I checked this channel
rip
fragile seems good too
i guess targets explode might work better for a direct damage build, something like face melter OC
because i rely on DoT a lot
yea i came here looking too
hopefully the devs fix it
cause it happened to me once too
then checked here and retried with DM beer
Feels like the best course of action is to wait for a DD LFG where the host has Dark Morkite
Time for a break I guess
it is possible to get through it without dark morkite
but its VERY slim
almost a chance, but i know thats not the case
yea by the looks of it, most everyone is getting 149 without dark morkite
just mine every single piece of morkite you can, even if its 0.1 pieces or a small corner. grab all you can
sometimes if your bag is full it will round down and make that .1 disappear
gotta deposit when it says 35 not 40 i guess
or 40 instead of 45 depending on perks/upgrades
would be nice if the armor upgrade for storage was +10, used a mod for it once and it was so much more convenient
Been walking back and forth
I knew it was f*cked when the last room spawned with the smallest chunk of morkite I've ever seen, like the size of a Bismor chunk
yep seen that
I've just casually scrolled up chat and found 5 others with the same issue, looks like we're not alone. Will have to wait for Dark Morkite looks like
Or whenever they fix it
Tbh I low-key hope that they'll regenerate this deep dive so I can get the rewards again 👀
wheres the last few morkite on DD 2?
bugs ate him
good luck)
hey we just did this DD, there is exactly 150 morkite
you have to get every pixel basically and deposit in molly as soon as you get full
ill wait for beer too good to know
he dont want to harm ya, he just wants ur ganja
reggaeBUG
It's inconsistent. Up to luck and number rounding
so i've noticed you can pick up the batteries that you eject from the caretaker force field
can you do anything with them or
throw them as bombs
they are bombs, basically
I usually drop them on tentacle placements so two of them are instantly OS in the first phase
is there enough morkite for deep dive normal phase 2 this week n
Some say so, just gave up on 149.... make sure you have the morkite buff beer if you go again
same 149 what the heck
Yeah.... GL 😢
Looked for like 30 minutes
I'd say just quit and make sure to have buff beer....
we got bodied on stage 3 EDD when our gunner disconnected for no reason
Basically if any morkite drops on the ground you get a rounding error and you don't end up with enough
same here, we quit after searching for 20 minutes
You have to get every single speck and not fill your inventory or C4/EPC/Bosco mine any of it
GSG can't fix it because the entire team is on vacation and they can't afford to pay a dev overtime to come off vacation and reset the map generation
So basically just wait for dark morkite to be in the beer rotation and pray that it actually shows up
uh guys
the 2nd stage of the DD
if you cant find enough morkite... do we just give up?
There quite literally isnt enough
read the channel a bit
we surrendered on the 2nd stage, and as we came back, we got dark morkite, so there we went again xD
If you don't want to risk the rounding god, Dark Morkite and Driller being tasked with drilling all Morkite as his sole job are alternatives
2nd stage of DD wasnt really a problem. The morkite wasnt abundant but we did have enough, without dark morkite. On PS if that makes any difference
morkite famine
i did the edd with some friends, and as a scout i zipped all across the salvage room and triggered every spitballer + mule swarm
Spectacular
what mods do you guys take for special powder?
full ammo and reload speed
and auto-reload
doesn't matter
t2 double trigger > reload speed
you can fly much further and still have enough time to reload midair
Blowthrough, so you can at least somewhat use it as a weapon
mumbles As it supposed to be used in the first place
just fully commit to the SP ways and forget it's even a weapon
or don't use it at all
what on earth... did the deepdives reset or what
DD was magma core yesterday now it's fungus bogs
yeah, they reset every thursday
That was last weeks DD
hmm
they changed around 24 hours ago ^^
sounds like you might wanna resync your system clock
eh I don't mind. I get the reward twice
149/150 morkite moment
lets get those easter eggs bois 
i think there was a glitch in the matrix
have the devs at least issued a statement going oh yea we fucked up, gonna fix it now
wat
They don't have to, DD is possible. It is random every week, sometimes spectacular generations as this happen. Get Dark Morkite
i didn't have any issue with DD strangely 
Me neither. Did it first try, but did say "wow" when i realized there is just enough Morkite this time
There was a deep dive like that before
escort + morkite
azure weald
Needless to say it was nearly impossible to see them
When I exit a cave, the walls are full of my saliva
Because I lick the walls so clean 
we got just enough
Yet no one complained 
150 morkite without dark morkite
That's exactly how much there is
Totally possible
nice

i dont play DRG that long but that hurts to look at.
these are the same people that colour outside the lines
I noticed that there is a geyser/vent in the middle of the escort mission that is able to shoot you up a level where there is more morkite if that isnt known 😅
Hey guys i think stage 2 is glitched. (Sarcasm)
Small cave 1 is the setpiece with the floored cave, yes
Stage 3 is also glitched. I popped the cocoon and when trying to run away, detonator particles surrounded me

if only that was the problem here
not like countless people spend more than an hour digging through all caves to be stuck on 149
ur lucky thats it
I finished the DD blind first try by doing what I always do. After that I played the dive three more times, so four total, doing the same thing and still not being short. There's enough in the cave without needing the beer
Does it suck that there's just enough? Yes, for some
But the game has a boost beer. This dive is not broken
its literally not enough for some ?
The only rounding error tht can happen is if you mine Morkite with a full inventory of Morkite, but why would you do that
hmmm, lets see, because you dont leave walls like that ?
- 67 Gold
- 84 Nitra
- 72 Morkite
Small Cave 1:
- 29 Gold
- 40 Nitra
- 14 Morkite
Refuel Cave:
- 52 Gold
- 106 Nitra
- 45 Morkite
Small Cave 2:
- 26 Gold
- 34 Nitra
- 18 Morkite
Ommoran Cave:
- 26 Gold
- 22 Nitra
- 1 Morkite
Totals: 200 Gold | 286 Nitra | 150 Morkite```
damn, must be a lot of liars that get stuck on 149
Id say its definitely broken if there are rounding errors if you mine while full. Even if it wasn't broken in that way, it's bad design and definitely unintended
I've heard the only other instance of this happening in a dive was two years ago
clearly game is fine and everyone is lying
And the game is four years old
Its affecting some and not others
It just is what it is I guess
Dont mine to full and just make sure you mine everything
Or have Driller collapse the Morkite veins for full payout each
Maybe caves spawn with a random integer amount of morkite with range based on the quota and it just happened to roll the minimum possible amount
Also Dark Morkite daily special
Which would be bad design
I'd just attribute this event to the generation of non-cave setpieces. eg machine events, Doretta refuel area, Ommoran arena
In this mission one Morkite vein for example is cut off by the open space that's forced around the Ommoran
I've seen players report OSR missions with only two wells because a machine event removed a morkite well by spawning
You mean the vein of 0. 4 morkite xd
Surely unintended and broken, but it happens once a blue moon
Maybe just git gud
the point is it is NOT player error but a dev error
the solution to this problem is really easy, just make it so there is always 1-2 extra veins that spawns
Should have failsafes if random generation leads to such situations
During the early update of Rival Incursion, I had Hacksy's pod drop ON the data vault and I couldn't interact with it to grab tethers
The game already does that every time. But what if it did and the Ommoran arena just yoinked them?
but this aint the early dais anymore
Platform gun
I was solo Gunner, tough luck
there were baby mollys stuck under omerald in the past too
that was at least possible
ah, i didnt know it already does it. i guess it needs a counter after it generated and if it doesnt have extra then regenerate
Minimules can still get stuck in place if you break terrain underneath them before repairing
Not saying the game is perfect, just that it not broken even with what is currently happening
The bonus generation setpieces can surely use an improvement
Instead of just cutting perfectly into the ground and spawning
yes, i agree. its the other people saying its player error. personally i think its a design/coding error, players shouldnt be expected to know about 0.0001 morkite remaining in a vein or having to play around that issue
I've had horrendous looking Ommoran spawns sometimes
Where the cave was small and it looked stupid
Tbh, I'd just make this a feature and call it Scarce Minerals mutator. Where the cave generates just enough of something, idk
Though having a mutator that only affects one mission type is weird to have
No it's dumb and stupid
Especially if there is any chance of rounding errors (eg mining while full) , or different ways of mining giving lower resources
Obviously I'd look into that
shouldn't the devs playtest the deep dive?
Not really? They are on vacation so that's why there were no dev streams
that explains it then
the devs don't exactly have the time for that
outside of the streams they do, which they happened to not do this week because of national holidays exceptionally lol
Would have liked to see their reaction to this week's
And when I say the "devs"... it's usually more like Jacob, who's the CM and ONE dev most of the time 😄
It's pretty rare to have a full team from the devs themselves
It shouldnt be too hard to have some code doublecheck the aviable morkite and if that is 150 or less it should just do a new roll...
CM?
Community Manager
I see
It must be all the fault of the Ommoran spawning zone
In Salvage Operations there's usually four legs per MiniMule. Three for repair and one spare. So 0/2 Minimules have two spares and 0/3 Minimules have three spares. I've had missions before where I only had one spare in two Minimule missions due to a machine event removing the other
looks like it yeah
hey, anyone else has an issue finding enough Morkite on DD Stage 2? I'm like 4 short and can't find a single mineral anymore
pretty much everyone yes$
it's been talked about only that in this channel for the past 24h
This week there's just enough Morkite. Don't leave any pixel behind. If you're playing solo you could also abort and wait a Dark Morkite beer
just enough in some cases
I'm doing solo, I might do that, that never happened before
just come back with dark morkite
Certainly a unique week we have
most people never find the last
they always put so much more in there, especially in the last are to make sure you get the numbers
Though you could still go back and double check the bits left behind.
Landing zone: 2 veins
First small cave: 1 vein
Refuel cave: 2 veins
Second small cave: 1 vein
Ommoran cave: 1 vein
i even find the little hidden one above Dotty's path i couldn find but that made me 4 short
In the Ommoran cave there's only a literal one click "vein" worth 0.4 Morkite
we dug through the entire cave, checked behind oil shells, mushrooms , goo cannot get past 149. Dark morkite is da wae
here's the easiest way to fix it
make the morkite spawn happen after the stone spawn
You know, it's easy to throw solutions out there, especially when you have no idea how it works but...
Call it the "Ommoran Heartstone™"
yeah that's not how it works 
are you a programmer/dev
no
yeah, that was suspicios for me
Could just force the veins to not be removed and if a forced open air section is in the way, have the vein be cut off and left into chunks 
ofc thats an easy thought but would require to change the whole system, thats why I suggested to just run a check after generation and then regenerate from 0 if needed
Now imagine an Escort Duty with not enough Oil Shale lmao 
well luckily that stuff spawns in every room and everywhere where you dont need it
Just go and pickaxe the Ommoran yourself lol
Or a Salvage Operation with not enough detonator
Can't have that
dreadnaught mission but you need to wait for a randomly spawned one
😂
I only had one. Murdered the Hiveguard with it
I think you can dig them away but that's a long dig
stage 3 was quite spicy
are there morkite problems in the deep dive?
Lots, exactly 150 morkie spawns so if you dont mine it perfectly you're screwed
is there hidden morkite?
Nope, my team spent an hour scouring the cave for exactly 1 morkite and found nothing
I heard there was a secret vein in the heartstone room so we dug up half the place and found nothing
It's hiding behind the mucus.
What mucus? Where, half the cave is covered
We got super frustrated bc we were so close and had to quit to go to sleep
same here man, same here...
Oh well, at least it's just a simple error that slipped under the radar
Im happy to hear that you had no troubles, unfortunately many others have experienced this problem and feel jipped
F
the Morkite was indeed kinda scarce and you just had to find every vein to complete it
Yes, we found every vein, we just mined it improperly I guess so that the .00001 of morkite escaped the three of us
no, you didn't
in all of the veins there was a little more than enough
we had 149/150 and then we found another vein
Where?
heartstone room
it more or less in the back, opposite from where you enter. Or in that rough area, don't remember exactly
Yeah we checked the reddit thread, saw that, and scoured the cave. For some reason we found nothing
At stage 3 EDD my mates died while we were entering the main cave:
died when he grappled to land cryo nade at breeder almost at melee range but following landing surprisingly turned out to be lethal.
who was almost the same rank as me - got yoinked far away (was always going solo straight to objective separately from the team without saying anything), I saw him released but he still died a few seconds after cause of that.
stayed behind me with Lok and Hyperprop, helped me with bunch of macteras but then swarmageddon finally found weakness in his build and he was really mad at those small biters.
So, be careful.
oh lmao
when I did the EDD last night the 3rd stage took longer than the other stages combined
because we were dying so much and there was so many enemies everywhere
and there were many moments where the last person was running around, waiting for an opportunity to revive
Almost lost the edd to the millions of swarms, iron will clutched
I was so glad i brought Neurotox Payload
But I had to dodge ground and air at the same time in the darkness so I admit it was not casual
I made a circle and timed lava geyser right so enemies behind me got burned
Got like 1k kills for my team in the end, although my weapon was not about DpS
so im told there's only 149 morkite in the second stage of the DD
Theres more
there is 150 but you literally need to get every pixel on the map
and there is a small chunk at the heartstone for 1 morkite that a lot of people were missing
So do they ever fix the deep dive or will we just have to deal with this the rest of the week?
Deal with it
made it low stress, until that bulk spawned
Led it away YaY a frag hit Dottie NuU but that’s what the armor is for
dude stage 2 DD is a nightmare and a 1/2
the morkite is just stupid, me and a group are on it rn, and we did the heartstone, and we emptied all the morkite veins in the cave, but we can't move on cause we are literally like.3 or.2 Morkite short, and stuck at like 149.8 something
Ayyy finally have dark morkite ,
I am in the same situation right now, although on 147/150, so frustrating
anyone wanna dd?
yes please
Dark Morkite is an absolute neccesity, Get It or your not beating stage 2 DD!
Just get better at the game
☝️ Some mineral veins don't spawn unless the host is above rank 100, believe me, this is totally true
Got Dark Morkite buff beer, anyone for DD?
Not sure how to host a game via Discord
Got full game now
yeah we couldn't complete the second stage of the DD when i tried to help out a person but luckily we got the dark morkite drink now
Dark Morkite is definitely the solution to the dd problem, lol
i managed to do it without dark morkite on the first try so i was like are you actually serious
Minerals are random still aren't they?
I know the maps are seeded but the minerals generate fresh each time right?
No. 150 morkite, rounding error and you're fucked.
dude this stage 3 edd is actually impossible, i feel like there is just an endless swarm of enemies and i have no time to do objectives
the amount of enemies just being spammed at me is so frustrating
ive lost on the last stage 3 times now and all 3 times i didnt even finish repairing the mini mules
first 2 stages are pretty ok, i get downed 1-2 times max
Quit, reroll beers til you get dark morkite, try again.
No other chance?
Well that really sucks
Due to a rounding error with picking up morkite you could not get enough
Some just got lucky lol
That’s a theory. The game doesn’t round in general
But I’m also curious as to the cause
Game does in fact round
A lot
Yeah it does round
Well, thanks for the help.
Sorry, let me be clear. The underlying representation of mineral amounts is not an integer, so fractional mineral amounts you pick up aren’t rounded up or down when you put them in the dwarf’s pocket.
The visual representation obviously has some kind of floor/ceiling/round
(Probably a better discussion for #wiki-related-chatroom where game mechanics experts hang out)
average swarm aged don
I've just learned that someone who gets kicked from an EDD can't rejoin later, unlike losing connection.
Which makes sense but one friend had to AFK briefly and I kicked him thinking he could rejoin :(
(this was all during stage 2)
We had some tragic miscommunication where he said he was going to "eat lunch with his family" and it turned out that somehow only took him 10 minutes
So we could've just waited on the mission screen and all gone to use the bathroom or something :(
Does anyone know if someone who leaves a DD with the disconnect button rather than losing internet connection can rejoin?
had the morkite issue just now, did run twice and morkite was 149/150 each time
I just completed my first elite dive
and god do i feel like such a badass
never enter a mission without iron will
did you get the 0.4 morkite near the heartstone?
i've just managed to get 150/150 without dark morkite
I got that morkite and i was still softlocked so
am waiting for dark morkite for now
I would never ever rely on the reconnect function myself, even in legit circumstances where a player crashes or has an internet failure it still only works about 20% of the time
wasted an hour looking for any morkite i missed lol
so now am just spamming random beers til i get bored lol
Just happened to my team and I lmao
They do, in general. This week is a corner case of some kind of cavegen problem
Better drink some dark morkite going in
Yes
Yeah good to know.
We were sorta planning to just keep going and try to win without him but we were struggling in the 2nd mission with no Gunner (he was also our best player and partly carrying the team) and when he got back early we were just like eh let's just play some regular missions
Can't they do a check to make sure there's like at least 50% more morkite than is needed for the minimum in a mission?
Like as it's being generated
And if there's not, spawn another few patches until there is?
it's just cavegen man, wait for dark morkite next time
you could also be nicer about it
typical scout player
My team just managed it with exactly 150/150 without the dark morkite, so it is possible albeit a bit touch and go!
yeah, you'd really have to get down to the decimal, but it is possible
Sorry mate saw that at a bad time
just failed with 149 morkite on stage 2
Oop just tried the DD myself too not knowing about the morkite issue in mission 2. I was stuck at 146/150 despite going back and trimming all the morkite veins. :( Had gold beer on me too.
Guys, hello. Anybody knows direction where the Omoron Heartstone in in common deep dive?
I can confirm that there is only 150 morkite on stage 2 of the Deep Dive, which is definitely not intentional.
Heartstone is always at compass mark 210
Always?
Yes
Yes. If you want to predrill, stand on dotty and point at 210 on compass and drill. Any escort
Thanks!!
148/150 morkite. I did get the 0.4 morkite that's near the hearthstone. Am I missing any other possible veins of morkite? 🤔
I am going insane over this second stage
we have been looking for morkite for like 20 minutes
I spent an hour before. It was not fun... 😬
see @harsh steppe 's message
I thought that my game was bugged or something when it happened to me the first time! 😅
Essentially it shouldn't be able to generate the exact amount needed in the caves, so it's definitely an error. It should generate more, but for some reason it hasn't.
spent 10 minutes rummaging thru stage for morkite too
last ones were 0.4 at the stone room and 0.1 left in one of the not-completely-mined veins
rip
i had some chill people in that game but what can ya do
I feel like the 0.4 morkite spot was supposed to be a proper vein of morkite. However, there's a puncture that occurred there... 🤔
maybe oil shell generates after every other mineral type and overrides them
I remember few cases where oil and nitra were in the exact same place with oil on top and nitra sticking around only a little bit
phew
Found this little spot with morkite immediately, so I didn't have big problems with it
Yeah, I think some elements is placed later and can essentially remove other stuff, but it shouldn't be able to reduce it this drastically. It might be because it's such a low amount that by chance the extra amount got outgenerated.
dude ive gotten to 3rd part of edd and i actually think its impossible solo
i get one egg or 1 mule leg and i end up running for like 3 minutes while the game outspawns what im killing
i sit in a shield and shred as many enemies as i can only for twice the amount of enemies to spawn 5 seconds later cutting me off
the cave you go in has like 3 wardens 2 spitters a ton of mactera and like 3 praetorians
and then more spawns on top of all that + swarmageddon
dude im so stuck at the normal dd 3rd mission... cant find morkite xD
I just finished a deep dive where on the second mission someone ordered 6 resupplies….
im glad im not t he only one not finding the morkite im stuck in the 2nd mission looking for any scraps
There was some in the room with all the gunk and there was two veins in the Heartstone room.
its been 1 hours since my last piece of morkite xD
I think there was some also in the first room.
i got the one in the first room, there was a little spot left of the heartstone
idr the 2nd on in the heartstone room
I may be thinking of the small room right after the first room or right before the last.
there was a ssmall room after the first that had a geyser secret room with some
im missing 8
currently getting bosco to dig all the oil shale
The spot I remember in the heartstone room there was some in one of those offshoot tunnels but not tunnels.
Valleys?
found .6 in the goo room i missed
And you got the stuff from the first room way up top?
i think so, it was directly above dorrettas drop zone to the right
Oh yea I meant like the first room she stops
i think so but im checking again
Oh I just saw this tweet
The second stage of this week's Deep Dive appears to just barely have the amount of Morkite needed to complete it, so if you are going in, make sure you vacuum every little bit off the walls (or wait for Dark Morkite to appear in the bar).
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pain
Ou, saw a comment that said not to let bosco mine or you may miss what you need :/
@JoinDeepRock Made a short video on it just in-case, it is possible, or at least, barely.
I managed to get 150/150 while playing Solo, without the morkite drink. https://t.co/V0t9R3i2e2
I’m so sorry dav
how often do special beers refresh, wanting the Dark Morkite, its Rocky Mountain
Every 30 min of system clock
You can bump your clock forward in 30 min increments if you’re impatient
as soon as missions refresh
Oh I'm not the only one having trouble finding morkite
I really don't wanna do the deep dive over again lmfao
are the beer bufs the same for eeveryone or personal?
I'm hoping to get this weeks DD done
i'm pretty sure it's the same for everybody
yeah im gonna just abort and wait for morkite beer
sad i had to do that but it is what it is
was at 147, licked every vein clean, was missing some small rock of like 2.5 morkite somewhere i didnt see
Managed to score 149 Morkite
Lmao same
https://twitter.com/JoinDeepRock/status/1515052745434279939 on the upside this tweet implies they have a plan to stop this from happening again so at least its gonna be looked into
This is not intentional, but we might not be able to fix it before next week due to the Easter Break.
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i'm at 147
just gotta wait for dark morkite 😔
that's how I did it
hour 25 for me
i got the achievement for being in a mission for one hour so theres that lol
well 1 minute until the beers refresh
lol
or maybe not
its still blaster for me
does the beer change if im on the space rig or do i need to refresh by restarting the game
im reseting game
blastler? it was pots of gold on my end
pots of gold for me too
is it a case of someone notifying when its Dark Morkite so people can go for it
might be at this point
we're currently missing 15 morkite
i wouldnt mind hard to get morkite (like you either needed platform,, zip or crazy drill work but not enough isnt great
where?
that was for my map
all maps for DDs are the same
pretty sure its random lol but look everywhere
ahhh
k
theres a little cave the drill dozer digs through
I noticed many seemed to be having issues this weeks Deep Dive (Bedazzled Interest) (Week 134), it is actually possible to complete it, even without morkite beer, however you must be VERY thorough, and clean it up perfectly for each vein. The last chunk should be just enough, to count as 1 for the missing morkite.
Do NOT let Bosco mine any of ...
and if you look on the map it looks like a mooshroom just above that little cave
we had 149
literally found 0.5 but couldn't find the other scraps
going into stage 2 without dark morkite wish me luck lol
Good Luck

are u guys haveing the same problem
i am doin this right now with a group and we cant fin the last morktite
lets sue drg for impossible objectives, they sent us in knowing its a death trap!!!
Mission control send us into volcanos, dont think they mind
even worse, mission control sends us into fossil missions
Just think, what would Karl do>
drink his way out of the problem
as long as not leaf lovers
There is no last morkite
Well that was a waste of an hour
but only enough if you mine it perfectly
no way
we spent 1hr 12m as well for nothing
is it possible if the morkite is less than .1 it goes to waste?
thats actaully bs
it doesnt go to waste when you mine 0.1
thats going into the book of grudges
i mean less than .1
i had the gold boost as weel
same
i was going to get stacks
we had 1.3k ahah
im only theorizing but its possible you have to mine it in a particular way or risk getting softlocked
sheet
yea it is
we had 3 detonators that took some out
so we had a bit less than needed we got most of the morkite out of that video
Man, I think I'm done with drg for a bit after that.
your not the only one
like i said
this is going in the book
15/04/2022 22:17 GMT: That moment when you spent 1 hour searching for morkite when the stage was bugged
i mean come one
lol
ohh i know but they made who else would it be ahah
yeah they didnt do it on purpose im not bitter
same
yeah
as long as they find a way to fix it so next time it doesnt happen im good
mission control when everybody's coming back 4 morkite short
^^
If we could come back short it wouldn't be a problem 😛
or 149.9 morkite
heres where all the morkite is
but dont be surprised if u miss some anyway
i recommend u restart and wait for dark morkite itll be less painful
anyone else waiting for the half hour hoping...
just did stage 2 broke everything around the morkite. Also I was the only one mining it. got 150
samee
Tunnel rat
I think resources are never destroyed, detonators can just fling chunks a long way
Bosco can definitely destroy resources.. so I wouldn't put it past other mechanics to do so as well, especially for subfractions of 1.
4 morkite short on stage 2 DD. Had three detonators, we think one took some out
Really dissapointing
Yeah it sucks
ok so i cant complete the second stage is what im getting?
bc im stuck on finding last morkite
I just aborted mine
Would rather wait till dark morkite
im confused because i got every vein of morkite in the stage but im missing some, in the video it was enough to get the mission done but im short 4 morkite
its genuinely so frustrating
Did you have detonators on that mission?
Well that's odd. Some are saying maxing out your morkite can lose some, due to rounding issues\
But my group didn't do that and was 4 short as well
We also had 3 detonators though
in my first attempt on this mission witha random group we got like 149.99999
it was so odd how we didnt get it finished because we SHOULD have had enough
anyone else got no morkite on 2nd stage of DD?
I see people having the issue
im missing exactly 1 morkite
I scrapped every tiny bit off the walls
im giving up on the DD so someone will jsut have to wake me up when theres dark morkite in the abyss bar
bullshit lol
im not gonna try again
I blame bosco
for my map
because when he mines, he doesnt get the full value
he always loses some
you literally have to pick every single last bit
i just did it
i thought everyone was on the same page about the scarce morkite, but we were at 149 at the heartstone, so i went back and sure enough the engie had left the tiniest bit of morkite glinting in the goo
1 morkite
I did
I even collected bits that didnt give me anything to deposit
no
This week's elite is goated man, tuff solo job
dunno what to tell you, but there's pretty much exactly 150 morkite in the dd second stage
how much do you have
149
rip
if the vein in the last cave wasnt glitched
its overwritten by some weird generation, causing it to be only a tiny amount instead of a full vein
then it would be fine
R u on regular deepdive
why, does the elite dive have the same issue?
No it's fricking hard
then why ask
Mactera constantly spawning on first stage
if you didnt have morkite troubles its obviously not the dive we talk about
its literally not possible to finish
no, there is no morkite left
yeah, morkite can get deleted by bad mining
The last of the morkite is on the cave to the back left of the dozer
I mined like I always do
I got more than the average
he still blames me
with 149
man
not that it matters to me much
I got 50 cores banked up for the update
but still sucks
i wish we could see a total number of dwarf hours spent searching
my first run we blew like 4
I spend 30 mins
(1hr x 4 players)
was done with the dozer after 16 ish
and then went through the cave 4 times
thought I was going insane
but no, the map is just scuffed
hopefully they fix it or something, otherwise no normal DD this week IG xD
just dark morkite it's not that big of a deal
im not gonna do it again any time soon
and next wednesday when my group plays the dives, we wont sit around waiting for a beer
once we got to the stone me and some other guy stayed for 5-10 minutes before we aborted
dont know why people stayed for so long
next time i hopped on i did it solo because dark morkite was already in rotation
me too
sorry i wasnt expecting to have to minmax my morkite down to the decimal
imagine arguing in good faith that the average player should know how to manipulate hidden floating points for a rounding error
you can do it without dark morkite
its possible, i've done it
it just SUCKS
we searched the cave until we discovered a tiny speck of it in a mined vein
Guys, here is what you have to do for that second mission in the normal DD, because I finished it. In the mine, there is a very limited amount of morkite, but you can finish the mission with good mining, and without the beer. Basically, there is something like 149.8 morkite available in total in the cave. First theoretical thing to know, is that when you have only 1 morkite in your inventory, it doesnt mean that you really have 1 morkite to deposit. The "1 morkite" in your inventory appears when you have less than 1 total morkite, for exemple when you have 0.4 morkite. The problem, is that if you deposit that 0.4 morkite in molly, it rounds down to 0 morkite deposited. BUT, if your "1 morkite" contains for exemple 0.8 morkite, it rounds up to 1 when you deposit it. So, considering this fact, when you are doing the mission, you first have to collect every single piece of morkite available, and second and most importantly, you have to deposit the last amount of morkite you have in molly in a quantity superior to 1. The thing is that if you find a little piece of morkite, for exemple egual to 0.4 morkite, that gives you 1 morkite in your inventory, you deposit it, it gives 0 deposited as described. Later, you find another 0.4 morkite, you deposit it, and again 0. The thing is that if you had kept your first 0.4 morkite, you would be at 0.8 now, and it would be egual to 1 morkite deposited, and not 0. BUT, in this mission, even if its contradictory with what i've just said, if you collect every piece of morkite as I described, you are gonna finish with something like 130 in the mule and 19 in your inventory, but if you deposit that 19 (considering that you respected what I described above) its gonna round up to 150 in the mule, and the mission is done.
In addition, mining with a near-full inventory will delete remainders from any chunks you pick up. This means that if you have 53/55 in your inventory, and you pick up 3, the remainder just… goes away.
that sucks lol
THIS DEEP DIVE STAGE TWO IS STUPID
I got killed by a maggot on the EDD
Holy hell they were right about the DD stage 2 morkite issue. We mined .3ish from the last tiny chunk in the hearthstone room and made 150... Barely.
Any good builds for rj250?
This is not true. I specifically tested this at the end of the stage 2 with 149/150 deposited. I mined the 0.4 at the end (from 0 fully deposited) and it correctly went in as either 1, or 0.4, but either was enough to bring me up from 149 to 150.
you had 0 morkite in your inventory, mined specifically 0.4, deposited it, and it went from 149 to 150?
is that right?
Could a detonator potentially prevent the mission from being doable? If it blows up on a stack of morkite?
Had to quit a deep dive I was doing just now after spending over an hour looking for 2 morkite that I was missing...
Couldn't find it anywhere.
you had 0 morkite in your inventory, mined specifically 0.4, deposited it, and it went from 149 to 150?
So is there actually not enough morkite in stage 2
