#deep-dive-discussion
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maggots don't but lootbugs do
if only 1 is missing perhaps we can make use of that
is it possible for stuff to spawn under the ommoran crystal bed
Sadge
missing 1 morkite lmao had to abort mission
same miss 1 morkite on DD stage2
we've been looking for 1 hour. 149/150
Did the streamer do it solo?
yes
wait, is there only 149 morkite in teh DD? is it only doable with dark morkite?
apparently so
been doing dd2 3 times, always short of either 1 or 2
doable with dark morkite
tried it by fast forwarding computer time by 1.5 hours to get dark morkite beer
wish i could do that, ps4 gang has to wait a few hours
also, can we start a petition to remove mactera plaguw from hte game entirely?
i definetly bet stuff can spawn under the ommoran since when i played DD stage 2 there were exploding shrooms under the ommoran bed
consoles often have different cave generation, has someone confirmed the DD stage 2 morkite shortage on PS/Xbox?
ooo, ill do it
ever heard of rival presence, imagine that but with rival tech 
I popped in to #playstation and didn't notice any complaints
comes at season 2
rival presence as a DD modifier would be pretty cancer
nah i saw the trailer, ive never had problems with any rival bots, but shredder hell is going to be a problem
patrol bots on haz 5 are no joke, rival presence in an EDD would be a fun challenge
by DD i mean EDD
the tentacle monster would be a pain
i really hope the tentacle monster isn't also tied to rival presence, and its like a machine event that just shows up randomly
lol i failed the dd
also, is it me, or is there literally no nitra in the first mission of edd
in the last mission, dreadnought + 2 bulks + explo inf in point extraction is just impossible solo as scout
i think the nemesis is gonna be a random boss spawn like korlok or bet-c, but just a guess
Sanity broke after being capped at 149 morkite
30 mins in, we couldn't take it
Dwarven Insanity, we started murdering each other
oh and in magma core, the floor is literally lava
BRUHHH DD 2nd stage is soft-locked at 149 morkite
me and homies literally searched for an hour
i dont know if it helps, but if u carry a little extra over from the first mission u should be good
it doesn't?
only nitra and gold perhaps
well, im bouta find out
yea you dont carry over morkite
Check your left pocket for the morkite.
Pray to get the Dark morkite buff for this deep dive
look in between the couch cushions
make sure the scout didn't eat it
if we carried over morkite, then morkite mining wouldnt need to exist for subsequent stages
well I mined every single speck of every vein and gathered the quota
For the morkite issue on stage 2 of DD:
- The issue only seems to be on PC, not console
- You can work around it on PC by moving PC clock forward in 30 minute increments until you get Dark Morkite in the bar
- Better to just restart and get Dark Morkite than keep looking
but for christ's sake it should be impossible if they didnt write a shitty generation aglrotihm

I dunno, DRG's cave generation is nothing short of magical, it's the secret sauce of the entire game
hey at least they aren't destiny 2 devs
Bungie used to be good…
but there are occasionally corner cases and bugs, definitely not a shitty algorithm tho
This is the first time I've ever seen this
generate until morkiteValue =< 200.
truly magical xD
It should spawn more than enough morkite
it can be shit and a little repetitive at times but at least the know how to make a grenade not break the game
They probably do this.
Just you cant find it.
that's a possibility but well... we spent a ridiculous amount of time on it already so i'd hazard a guess if it were here we would find it
they definitely do this, there are parameters visible to modders etc. that specify min/max mineral spawn for each mission type/complexity/etc.
you passed the stage you said didnt you? ¯_(ツ)_/¯
someone said it was in the heart stone
just DD
The morkite is beyond the environment.
Is it just on pc or consoles as well
im checking console rn
just PC so far, no reports on console. console often produces different cavegen from same seed (memory limitations, etc.) so not a big surprise
If morkite has issues I guess u can wait for dark morkite
Morkite is stored in the gunk seed.
bruuuuutal edd this week holy shit
can't they just reroll the map 😐
bruh
?????
well im not polish so ill take ur wood for it
hehe i see what you did there
oh, btw, there is no morkite in the second mission on ps4 either
How much morkite did you end up with?
151 total on map
i dont do whole veins
oh
i found it
in the room right before the heart
barely visible is a 12 vein in the goop
screen pls
which gets me well over 150
whoever was that ass calling me out for afking, dont be a dick, dotty still needs to be protected
oh, i cant send pictures
dm then
(disclaimer: might be different on console...)
i think at this point ps4 cave gen is differnet or u guys are blind
yeah
that sums to like 180
it's a known thing that console has different cavegen
If someone AFKed in a DD or EDD id kick them
he meant he defended doretta and was called afk
He meant the dude instead wasted time typing instead of doing anything else, kick or play
I would also love to see the screenshots ty
Any veins in the heartstone room?
Did you get the one just over the geiser between start and first stop?
I'm wondering if the devs are working on this because there's been no live stream today so far
theres one vein in heart room, one in goop, one in refuel room, and like 2 or 3 in start room
Would've been funny to see them getting softlocked tho
Indeed
I found 2 in start room and 0 in heart room
Can you be any more specific?
did u check in the far back?
Playstation and PC have fundamentally different cave gen
and the goop room is kidden in hte goop
I assume Dark Morkite Brew doesnt affect Bosco?
Bosco doesn't collect Morkite. If he mines and you collect, still applies
I found .4 morkite from a vein I don't remember mining
I don't think this is correct. The way I heard it works is that both pots o' golds and dark morkite apply on pickaxe mining
Ah. I thought one has to mine it themselves for the bonus. Like Golden Pot. Good to know.
I'll have to look into this. I always thought that as long as the player picks it up it applies. Always seemed to work for me, maybe it was just large chunks
it's most noticeable on pots o' gold but yeah it only works on pickaxe swings
Yeah official site says 'Does not affect Boscos mining', so you're right. Not on Bosco, only on pickaxe swings
common tactic I use is overmining while another person collects if they don't have pog
they get the massive chunks while I swing
Okay. So I gotta do the mining myself then.
or vice versa
Any worse than the Haz 5.5 Shield Disruption in Hollow Bough or the 5.5 Haunted Cave in Salt Pits from the past few weeks?
Yeah I'd see so
I cleared both of those solo first try
this one I got destroyed on all stages
Bosco can destroy the peak of the beam pillars with its rockets. Neat.
Interesting, the shield disruption wasn't bad for me but the haunted cave needed a few tries for me. Gotta bring my A game this week
Ok I run the DD again to check, there is a bugged vein
thankfully .4 of it survives, so I can get exactly the 150 morkite needed
the vein is on the back of the heart room, on the left side
Good luck miners
Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx_OjpQPiKU
I saw that little spot of morkite too. I was in luck and got dark morkite before the DD.
Nice! Thanks for the video.
the deep dive didnt generate enough morkite for me to complete stage 2
Yes, known issue
Need dark morkite
that's a pain
My brother in christ, scroll up 4 messages
change your pc's clock time until you get dark morkite in the meantime
Oh really? That sucks a lot.
I thought it wasn't possible for deep dives to be unwinnable
Can the devs re-generate the seed to spawn more morkite at some point?
when the devs haven't done their weekly dd stream yet hmmmm
Not true
You don’t need dark morkite but without it you are squeezing the tube of toothpaste for every last drop
I usually just cut the tube off and scooped the last bit of paste with my brush.
guys does stage two of the new dive even have enough morkite?
Just spend an hour on it, was at 149/150
Perhaps. Some say so. But others dont.
yeah were on 143
Its just enough for 150 appparently.
I drank dark morkite beforehand.
If you scroll up youll see that you arent the only one.
is that going to get fixed or are we stuck with that until the next deep dives roll out
Deep Dives don't give extra experience from enemies and minerals mined??
did they fix the regular deep dive yet?
Correct. You get credits from the gold you mine (and keep any minerals you manage to get from hoarders) but no xp from anything (also the credits generated are not what you would expect from hazard levels)
so far every time I do a deep dive in a biome with exploding plants the exploding plants are everywhere. Is this intentional?
There's no survival bonus either so definitely ditch your 3 friends to survive, even on stages 1 and 2 (they get auto-rezzed at the start of next stage)
Ah.... I wasted a lot of time collecting all the Morkite since I drank dark morkite as well. But I guess from the thread here it seems that it was the correct way to do it anyway
Collecting any extra morkite is a waste, even if the next part of the DD has morkite. It vanishes for some reason out of your inventory. Why does DRG pay for a material that disappears before it gets back to base? Who knows. Maybe the morkite in different regions is a different isotope
Just beaten DD second stage. Spent 15 minutes finding the last 5 morkite
this is really looking like an error
Was able to find 150 morkite exactly, but I think the problem might be rounding errors in the mineral collection in some way
I am super curious if the devs are going to hotfix the morkite
do they even know about it?
I'm on first stage and nearly died to the 200 exploder plants 50 exploders and bulk detonator to add onto it
imagine they do the deep dive stream unaware of that and without dark morkite.
ah damn, i don't watch streams so i thought they did both of them.
Anyone have done the EDD yet? any feedback?
they stream both but are on "holidays" at the moment, until next tuesday.
(national holidays in Denmark for a few days)
I have not. Bring lots of aoe, I guess. Parasites and swarmageddon
Holy shit the explosions are really getting on my nerves, destroying geysers needed to reach higher ledges, taking out ledges I'm trying to stand on, killing my mushrooms
I'm upset
I like shooting exploder plants and making a chain reaction. It's like popping bubble wrap.
Taking out the mushrooms does sound annoying though. Also being too close and getting tinnitus is a pain
Yes, but the problem is exploders do too 
17 minutes in and still stuck in the same room help this is hell
Oh right you mentioned the exploders earlier
Should i go extra mag flamethrower solo for EDD or try to find people?
i'd like to try it solo
wonder whats better in T5 for swarmageddon
Solo isn't actually harder, or at least not much harder. You should go for it. I feel like driller has good aoe no matter what you bring
You can also make bunkers for egg swarms/ black box/uplink and that's pretty cool
i probably go for expanded magazine instead of face melter
I don't have much driller experience but with parasites and swarmageddon you're one shotting a lot of stuff even without face melter
time to get my hands dirty
emrace the sludge 
stage 2 has like no morkite, most people had to leave the stage because there were not enough
Check the chat up, there were some morkite behind omoron i think?
but you probably have to get every last bit to have enough
@wispy cloak
omorran on morkite/salvage mission?
This dive sucks, sadly generation is really bad
did they patch botched dd's in the past ?
I'm done with these comedically steep slopes I've already lost 4 health bars worth to fall damage
might be better then wasting time looking
^
dark morkite should be enough to mine for the next try
I need 150, I found 28
1 more xd
cool, so everyone is having issues with that second dd map, yeah?
i'm fucking 6 short
Did everyone make sure to check the little pocket in the ceiling?
Yep, 3 short here on stage 2
I'm having issues with the first help
Felt like we were good on stage 2, with even a little to spare I think?
But with morkite drink though, so maybe without it, I would imagine its worse.
but where is it???? there was only one vein I was able to see and I can't find an exit to the large main chamber
theres at least 3 chambers on dd ep 1
Doesnt xbox have different cavegen than steam?
- the one you start in
- the one connected to the one you start in
- ?????
the closest thing I managed to find was a tunnel leading to the 3rd floor of chamber 2
wow, that really sucks
i have to abandon this dd 4 morkite short
i think something went wrong in the map generation of the ommoran room
there is a 1 morkite 'vein' right alongside the ommoran heart area
i think it got clipped off and the whole vein is gone, basically
I managed to find the very well concealed compact dirt lets hope it actually goes somewhere
I'm 1 Morkite short on the second stage of the dd, I've been looking for more for 30 min, I'm so done.
there's a tiny crumb at the back left of the heartstone room, make sure you grabbed that crumb (see embedded YT vid above)
also make sure every crumb of every vein is mined, if you grab 0.3-0.4 three times that makes 1
I did grab that, and all the veins were spotless, even dug out the oil shale looking for hidden veins... 149/150. Too late now already aborted.
I think you need Dark Morkite boost to guarantee finishing it...
Otherwise its a dice roll
We'll try it next time with dark morkite
1/4 of my total exploder kills so far are from the first stage of this deep dive and I have 110 hours of playtime, that is NOT okay
@warm light
@languid gazelle
@wispy cloak
damn
yeah no we farmed that
NOOO WHY THE MULE HAD TO ASCEND VERTICALLY WHILE I'M PLAYING GUNNER
extraction makes up for 4/5 of the solo mission losses I have because I keep getting left behind :/
oh thank goodness it was all a ruse
if you're frequently challenged on extractions, one technique is to get your elevation as high as possible before calling the pod
going down is usually quicker than up
true, I should try that at some point
I just wish I could use bosco like a cave angel
it can add several minutes to each stage and risks more timed swarms so it's a tradeoff
Swarm when climbing up vs swarm when climbing up desperately
Morkite softlock my arse 
Xbox gang
Fr tho i feel bad for steam players.
I wish you guys luck.
Does Xbox have a different DD?
Yeah no I got that one. Still wasn't enough.
Weird, I ran it twice to check if it was consistent
I guess you weren't as thorough with other morkite veins?
I think it depends on luck, you may hit a vein the worng way and get a little less
Yeah I mined on the edges of the vein to make sure I get it all
with dark morkite stage 2 DD is definitely doable, got 150 without hitting all the veins. just remember to mine with the pick and not use bosco etc.
Why does Bosco destroy some? I do solo dives so I was using Bosco
dark morkite bonus only applies to stuff you personally mine with your pick and nothing else. if bosco hits the vein there is no bonus ore generated.
hey anyone having trouble finding the last morkite vein in stage 2? were like 20 short
I'm 3 short on my solo run......it's pain
is there not enough or is it hidden in slime or something???
From what can find in old threads there may be some rounding thing where Bosco yields 1 less unit than pickaxe. Not an issue unless things are very tight as they are here
so it was a bad week to do a solo run and use bosco not knowing that he yields less. dammit
Ah I see...
can anyone confirm is there isn't enough morkite
aren't deep dives all generated the same outside mobs?
but we checked all oil shells and mushrooms
ah
there is slight variation due to number of players
I think if you hit the morkite unlucky you can get a couple 0.X less
What's with the morkite thing? been seeing that a lot for this week? Doing it first time also haven't done it yet.
how often do the beers change?
they change with missions
every 30 min, with mission rotation
it won't change when you're in the lobby though
hm I thought so too
Yeah, had 150 in second room of escort.
Is deep dive stage 2 possible without dark morkite?
idk, im at 149 right now
On steam, I think you can squeeze by 151, xbox you get like 300, dont know about play station though since the ps3 has no games.
The heart stone deleted a vein.
The vein got eaten by the heart stone
Digested
Pillaged
can i dig underneath it? How did you find this out lol
Nothing under it, only a baby vein directly behind it.
Worth 1 morkite
There's a tiny slighter of it
And morkite doesn't spawn 1 morkite worth of veins
Generation bug
oh shoot im looking now
It was heartbreaking, 2 times we got 1 tiny tiny morkite leftover
It showed up as 1 in inventory
should i look after i do drilldozer?
But it didn't do
yeah we have had that too
No difference
149/150 for like 3 deposits of .2 morkit
I mean you might want to look after the drilldozer, so you won't need to protect it
But at this point you may be stuck
So doing the dozer may be useless
Beer is diff for every lobby, right?
😦
it rotates with the missions
im not restarting this deep dive lol if i quit im done with it
ye
Doubt you would be able to do it
Unless there's some hidden vein
I havent found the one directly behind the heartstone yet
Change your computer clock to 30 minutes in the future to look for Dark Morkite
worth 1 morkite
It's not directly behind, a bit to the left
Just go along the wall on the left side
In the ommoranth room
If theres the wrong beer just do it again
i guess we already found it then
does molly keep track of rounded stuff? We have put in .1 or .2 like 3 times
Demand a compensation from @developers
doing the drill and praying
The devs fucking knew , they didnt showcase the new deepdive this specific week
sneaky buggers
Doubt
They would've just regenerated it
Why would they want to mess with us by softlocking us
there needs to be an add morkite command 😛
bruh....... 147/150 morkite... and i cant finish it, i checked the whole map
oh you are all talking about it too
at least im not suffering alone
149/150 here
same
its the exploders, they destroy the morkite
almost makes me wanna try the DD just to see if I can find it all
If you mine all of it
we found everything
like literally all of it you get 149
We didn't ):
challenge accepted 😎
but it was just to 149
yeah, you find it all, its just missing some because the exploders destroy some, so the map literally doesnt have enough anymore
there must be a bugged vein or something
that is what I am hearing, one is covered by heart stone
we give up
we are just quitting lol
we gave up
1 hour 51 LOL
and of course the second I leave
90% searching
just dug under it, there isnt any
ah
Maybe doretta also destroys one vein
I’ve got dark morkite and I’m hosting but no one has joined.
when doretta destroys veins the resources drop
from what i can tell, its the exploders. when they explode they destroy terrain, and not all of the morkite drops from it
It's all people have been talking about today
cause its frustratinggggggg
my friend said hes quitting the game for a week at least because hes so tilted we had to quit lol
im gonna run it again, i solo those things, so if you want, you can join me, im using a lot of mods though
DD second stage has exactly as much Morkite as needed, don't leave any bits behind
im too burnt out on it lol thank you though I appreciate it
exploders destroy them, so you end up with less
First time I experienced such a thing!
yup, i'm stuck on 143/150
gonna give it a go too
been searching for 20 minutes since finishing the dozer
people said solo bosco rounds differently too
nah
and screws you out of 1 or 2
I’m on PS, are we able to play together?
Exploders/Gunner bullets/Bosco don't yield less minerals
that's just people making things up
are the beers always going in the same order?
i genuinely dont know, are you able to even add mods on PS? if not, then i dont think so
okay i didnt know lol thank you guys
no, it's random
Oh right, guess one could wait out a Morkite beer for this DD
no mods on PS and there's no crossplay so no
yeah, no choice
thanks!
Yes, choice. It's a strange week, no doubt, but you exploders don't outright remove mineral bits
Just mine the entire thing until no pixel is left
how often do beers rotate? i never used them before
It's rough and unlucky, but this week you have to do it
Daily specials reset alongside the mission cycle. The difference is the Space Rig needs to be reloaded for the beer to change
mission cycle? sorry i dont know whats that, i just login play and logoff lol
Guess I’m gonna try to solo it
Well, you could play other missions until you see the beer you want
yeah i gave up on the DD after an hour
Or you can try it without it
ooh good point the morkite beer would make it work
short 1 morkite on the new regular deep dive any help?
youre stuck
nah, we're all getting similar issues
dark morkite ez fix
the map generates with exactly 150 morkite, if you dont get a 100% efficient mining run or use dark morkite you're screwed
just got dark morkite gonna do it solo sucks had a nice team
Tip for EDD stage 1: the drop pod spawns in the same cavern as the black box, so holding out at the black box after getting the aquarqs is a good strategy
i dont suppose they might do something to fix/reroll the DD?
I wouldn't count on it. Some people are able to finish it, it's fine with Dark Morkite, and the devs are on vacation
aight
softlocking it without being prepared for it does suck, but it's a DD and you can just redo it with Dark Morkite and move on
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/734068508853534892/964261991566954607/unknown.png
Just don't be like this with Morkite on the second stage
unironically how i mine gold, i dont waste time on it 🤣
Is it genuinely possible to softlock? Could you find it if you looked hard enough?
It is possible to soft lock due to machine event generation, but not minerals
donk we emptied every morkite vein entierly and were at 149/150
It's been reported before that some refineries are missing a morkite well due to a machine event spawning in that spot and removing the well
erm...well, this week it seems to be possible to soft lock due to minerals. I'm wondering if there's some floating point shenanigans going on or maybe a hungry loot bug
why is there not enough morkite in stage 2
I dont understand why people do this... to save 2 second per vein, so like 30 seconds per mission at the most? Who are you racing?
yay i got the dark morkite beer, time to run it again 😩
I did the dive first try solo and ended up with 2 units of Morkite more than the quota
Management wants to test your ability to properly mine every vein
I don't know either but I love this week's DD because most people do that lol
right? If I do it and beat it first time without the beer, everyone needs to embrace their perfectionism and get every speck
Calling it perfectionism while true, is still something that will annoy some people
yeah tunnelvision is more accurate
As in, first argument against would be "I shouldn't have to mine perfectly" and that is true. But the thing is, it costs FRACTIONS of seconds so why not do it
because ugh AH twitchy FASTER energy drink
why would a mission not generate enough morkite to complete the objective??
This week it happened to spawn just enough + 2 units
If you mine like this, you'll not have enough
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/734068508853534892/964261991566954607/unknown.png
oh hi cold
hi uncool
Iirc there was a small patch of Morkite around the Ommoran
Cut off by its spawn
That only took one hit to clear
thank you ted
Did I remember correctly?
where on the ommooran?
Oh, you haven't checked yet. Well, around the forced radius of open space
The open space I think cut off the vein, leaving only a small patch over
i see
I don't want to tell people this if it's not true, am I remembering correctly or am I talking out of my ass?
engi says he saw something but already mined it
i just remembered, that i bought the beer, but i forgot to drink it 😩
Big oof
i should really use it more often
smoke a lil too much?
No cigars allowed in the game. Think of the children, man
i almost never use beers xd
you missin out
Not even Red Rock Blaster? Just one bulb for +169% HP
they're so helpful
tbh i didnt even know that, that beer was a thing, i only know like 2 of them lol
i guess that one will be really useful for EDD
Indeed
if our scout was depositing .1 at a time would it still count
i'm only gonna try the deep dive again when i see dark morkite
Exploders, Gunner's bullet holes etc don't reduce the amount of minerals
what if an exploder explodes on 0.1 morkite? does it drop but is invisible? does it go automatically to inventory or to molly?
The game cannot show you less than +0.1 on pickup, that shows as 1 in your inventory, but the game does keep track of decimals
im genuinely asking!
If too small of a chunk is broken and nothing drops, that chunk's value just stays in the vein if I recall correctly
Now I wish DDs allowed adhoc connections, I'd be happy to help people with my spotting skills as I've played more than 1,300 solo, 100% clear, missions
Does it say the rewards for the seep dive somewhere?
think their random or based off what you already have, no?
DDs, EDDs and Core Hunt weekly assignment, all give 1x Blank Core, 1x random OC core, 1x random Cosmetic core, in that order, each
I didnt know, thank you
so if its the last piece in the vein its impossible to retrieve it?
148 here too
148
Been in this cave for 90 minutes now.
leave, wait for the dark morkite beer, and do it again@opal perch@nocturne yoke
best advice i can give you, honestly
ACTUAL DEEP DIVE MOMENT
Disgruntled miners assemble?
just did it solo np
Was trying to make a mission and died to omen, when we got back to the space rig everyone forgot that we were supposed to do the mission
Because we saw it
Today's special
Dark morkite
Well that was a good reading, thanks for the tips on the DD guys, haven't done it yet but this info potentially save me a headache
Still i wasted like 3 hours on EDD because of the endless mactera waves at stage 3 start
I'm going to try again in some minutes, some tips would be apreciate it if you guys already done it
Devs said that it's holiday so they can't do anything about it
LoL what is even with the morkite on stage 2 of the DD?
it's bugged
Yeah i just read up like 20 lines lol
gonna behind all the shale
let you know if i find something
I tried it just rn
dont say it
looks like the Ommoran generation eats up a patch of morkite
oh okay
on the left side when you enter
sometimes it airgaps a 2 inch wide spot
149
there's a tiny patch of morkite that looked like it got eat up by the generation
So close
rip
GDE MARKIT
...wot
we did
Yup, nothing under there either
There could be a separated room that's further apart and disconnected
And Karl knows I scouted! I scouted hard
check under the goo?
but didn't have a driller so I didn't check
yes
did that too
and behind the oil shale as well
OH CRAP
xeno fungus?
did they fix the dd?
I could've checked
no
tell me about it brother
let me platform boost myself into th emap
where ?
I am so glad I took spinning death for this EDD
scouted as good as ascout can scout
It just hard counters swarmageddon
At least until I run out of ammo and then run around improvising
Anywhere, the camera can go through walls
Note to self: take plasma bursters, I don't need proximity mines when I have spinning death
I'll test it out myself
gl
Keep ya posted
How long will it take for the devs to reset the deep dive seed?
Considering they're on leave
A long time
Best fix is have a Dark Morkite beforehand
pretty much yeah
Even dev teams on leave are supposed to have at least one guy on-call in case of emergencies
That's a bit much to ask from GSG 😂 No offense to them
i heard it's possible, there's a 1-morkite vein somewhere in the ommoran room
but yeah kind of bs lol
If a hacker attacked DRG and shut down the servers would we be SOL for 5 days because the dev team is on vacation?
they probably can take care of it but right now it's 11 pm for the devs
i mean if there was a massive emergency i assume things would change
there are no servers for DRG so... no
this isn't quite there though lol
There has to be at the very least a matchmaking server though
i'm 90% sure there are yeah
Also that yeah. It's an inconvenience, sure, but not an urgent matter
No afaik
The only servers are Valve's server to forward as a relay, but that's on Valve
not on GSG
DRG is p2p
Ah, so if a hacker attacked the servers it would be valve's job to get matchmaking working again
yeah because that would be their servers being attacked
Like we said, DRG doesn't work on a server system
It's fully p2p
Correct me if I'm wrong Pounce
not fully since it relies on valve's servers to relay the information during connection, but once it's established, yeah
But still, this deep dive is nearly impossible until the beer rolls dark morkite, and the devs won't be able to fix it so some people are just going to miss out on their weekly overclocks
that room with the bulbous dirt mound anything hiding in the cracks there?
they'll be able to fix it once they are awake 
nothing last I checked
Basically it seems there's exactly 150 morkite in the map and any rounding errors mean you lose
just a tiny patch at the bottom but that's not hidden
Seems to be that way for right now
that's not even a problem of rounding, there's not enough
Same issue there was with mini mule legs at some point. So they added more just in case
They'll probably do the same here
there is 150
whats the best Fat Boy OC loadout?
Someone further up was able to get 150 in both his tries, but most people can not do it.
confirmed we managed to find all exactly 150 morkite
*149
And even then it's weird there is just enough to clear it.
Usually there are leftover patches
just take ammo and avoid prox trigger at all costs
what platform ?
up here #deep-dive-discussion message
so my 21322 is fine then
i haven't done it i've just heard a dozen or so stories of completing it
i don't remember the numbers but that's probably fine
what platform ?,
platform?
steam/console
yeah : steam, Ps, microsoft ?
Yup, that's the one we found. Still ended up at 149
and we licked those walls clean
so I guess rounding didn't work in our favour somehow
You're goddamn right we did
I found it too, ended up at the same number, I think it really is just luck of the draw, or in this case luck of your pickaxe strike.
we are at 55mins and we did cleaned the walls toio
so yea, its bugged BUT its possible, every single morkite has to be harvested, we managed without morkite beer.
So are the devs going to reroll the dive or are they able to just increase the amount that spawns somehow?
My suggestion without dark morkite would be to drill out the entire vein and break it in one swing. To me this seems like the best method to get everything.
Probably the former
What's the last time they had to do such a thing?
they usually reroll the same dive but change the generation a tiny bit
a whiiiile ago
I see I see
I think it happened only 2 times before
once being on microsoft version only
and there was a time where the dives got changed because it was just...
let's stay very very very unfair 😄
for most people at least
Hollow bough, long escort 6+ bulks
how are the deep dives this week folks?
Any video recordings of that one?
OH I REMEMBER THAT ONE
no idea
yup
Never seen anything like it
I think that's the one that caused to devs to push escort to only have 1 stop in DD
no no, he means it was huge after the bulks exploded.
maybe
they PURPOSELY made the DD tight so theres a new influx of ppl in the discord
ive never been in the discord up until now and for the very question if the DD was bugged
Eh
How hard is the elite today?
head theory no real seriousness 🙂
discord always looks like this =p
V E R Y
welp, glad i checked up on the channel 'fore i went diving nose-first into the DDs...
whers the fun in that 😄
god, i woulda went ape looking for one more morkite for that second stage
currently ape
I actually found it with boiz, but it took too long
what was the last place?
Although I havent seen it myself
Dunno
yeah, reading my bio, i scream enough and i generally get angry way too often for my health
i think i'll be nice to my blood pressure today and save myself the frustrations, especially considering i've got a terrible headcold today
Yeah, i almost started crying after completing elite
It was awful
that one's a different type of hell, looking at it
- 67 Gold
- 84 Nitra
- 72 Morkite
Small Cave 1:
- 29 Gold
- 40 Nitra
- 14 Morkite
Refuel Cave:
- 52 Gold
- 106 Nitra
- 45 Morkite
Small Cave 2:
- 26 Gold
- 34 Nitra
- 18 Morkite
Ommoran Cave:
- 26 Gold
- 22 Nitra
- 1 Morkite
Totals: 200 Gold | 286 Nitra | 150 Morkite```
wait no fucking way theres a morkite problem
Just did this
yes way
tons of people are talking about it @gentle heron. apparently there's a generation bug and it's cutting people just short on the morkite
It's not just short
it's cutting it about as close as you can get it
I did it three times solo
note to self: wait for dark morkite to do the deep dive
that makes it easier, yeah, that's what i'm doing
There should be double amount of morkite, not just shy of inteded amount
as i said, i get angry too frequently for my health and i value my sanity, not to mention being sick today, id rather wait for the easy-mode
Usually there is, but DD caves get generated with two primary objectives, so good luck refining generation for those
Yeah, def not worth it
in the meantime, might as well go run a gold rush mission with PoG
2 veins, 1 vein, 2 veins, 1 vein, 1 vein
Totally doable if no pixel of Morkite is left behind
Spectacular generation, but what can you do
At least it's not impossible
yeah, arse to that
don't ever mine it with your inventory full on morkite 👀
You gotta dig it out with driller
Mine all around and let it drop
Perfectly maxes every deposit
I finished the dive three times solo just pickaxing normally
Without leaving a pixel over
Rounding errors can result in getting 1 less morkite than you need
And the devs have decided to go on vacation and don't have any sort of emergency backup plan for when something bad happens when the devs are on vacation
Cant exactly post an image here, but I'll spoiler it and post in #drg-gallery
But found some weird generation that essentially just deleted a vein of Morkite
Might be a contributing factor as to why this DD is so F'ed
This is why good dev teams have a backup plan and always have at least someone on-call who can fix issues
How would they even fix something like this?
Swap out the stage 2 genereation seed with a pre-generated Seed they have in ''reserves''?
You saying GSG ain’t a good dev team? Hmmmm?
According to some people they've done it before when deep dive generation bugged out
Neat
Worst-case they just generate a whole different deep dive instead
But of course all of that requires 1 dev to not be on vacation
they are the best devs forever ever !!!
they are not perfect but they are a good dev team
They're a small dev team ain't they?
Damn i love this humans ❤️
I could understand if most of them are taking a vacation because devs need vacations to recharge and work at their best, but there should be someone who's able to go in and do something like resetting a bugged deep dive
Did the generation of the Hearthstone deleted a few veins of Morkite?
Im on the stage rn, got 115 Morkite and doing the hearthstone now before I go and find more
There's a vein of literally 1 morkite behind the heartstone
Yeah that's the bugged one I screencapped.
There's exactly 150 morkite in the room, but rounding errors can cause you to only get 149
i did this dive twice and always finished with the number of 148
It's less vacation and more "national holidays for those X few days"
And it's past midnight for them right now
Thursday and Friday are mandatory 'red days'
Monday, Tuesday and Half of Wednesday is work days
So they're all gone for the easter
That part's at least understandable
looks like it yes
there's also a vein you missed
Probably yeah xd
second room, at the top
So the government mandates that they're not allowed to work for 2 days even if it's an emergency and they just need one dev to go into the office and reset the DD?
over the geyser
GSG don't do crunch time so I don't think they have anyone staying at the office, especially when they don't have servers
Thank
its sad , but not an emergency
I mean they should have at least one dev "on call" who isn't at work but if there's something bad that happens they can go in and fix things
yeah
we just got trolled , bros )
I mean
Yes
And this sort of scenario is not exactly classified as an ''emergency''
if the servers went down, or they got hacked, then it'd be an emergency
it's not an emergency, the game isn't unplayable
it's a bad case of generation, it happens, it'll be fixed either tomorrow or later
Worst case scenario it gets fixed by Tuesday, when work comes around again.
Well
Im missing 20 Morkite, and cant find another Vein
20 sounds like a lot, i think you are missing one, but i would recommend leaving and getting the dark morkite beer
whats the best beer for EDD?
Yeah I think im missing one somewhere
Im just bad at searching
2 in room 1, 1 in room 2, 2 in room 3, 1 in room 4 and the tiny little patch in the final room
I like the one that makes terrain easier to dig. If I am not in sandblasted cavern.
thanks, i actually had the idea of googling it lol, i will wait for the more health one
There was 130.x something in Molly already
or 19.x something in my pockets
either or
hopefully i will actually beat the defense EDD this time, that mission is just way too difficult, hardest one in the whole game by farrrrr 😩
Just did normal deep dive it was weird a guy warned us we needed to mine everything. We got to 149 then mined a tiny bit behind the ommoran heartstone. Would be intetesting to know if the rounding really does vary or if people are leaving little pixels of morkite here and there.
A escorty duty EDD?
no, the salvage operation, the one you have to stay inside a very small green area to charge
its so incredibly difficult
I think people might just be leaving tiny bits of 0.1 Pixels around.
Or maybe mining with Pockets full, which can have a rounding error when its dropped as a chunk?
I do not know the code or math for how anything is calculated xd
Has this been confirmed as just a PC issue?
its not, people from PS were here earlier
that was just a person on ps who said they had dark morkite and were hosting, not that they had morkite issues
I think they are rather easy if you got 4 LUREs.
I haven't heard anyone from ps say they had issues with it, my run included
is the elite deep dive hard this week
i play solo xd
Its pretty hot. Stage 3 is tough as nails.
So do I.
then im not sure what you meant with 4 lures?
The Engineer grenade. L.U.R.E.
oh
i thought the enemies can just destroy it?
so you just chain it and everything is oki doki?
They certainly try. But those lures give me enough breathing room to wipe them all out at once with my breachcutter and reloading my sentries.
actually, it should give me enough time too, since i always die at 75-90% then i start losing progress and its over
If I feel like I am about to be overrun I throw a lure. This gives me enough breathing room to repell them. And then I try to stay on top of things till I get the feeling again. 4 lures usually are enough for one entire download.
So I dont chain them directly. Rather I use them when I need a buffer.
so far, my issue has simply been that i dont have the dps for all of the enemies, like there are AT LEAST 5 guardians and 5 slashers on my screen at any time once its passed the 75% mark
they spawn quicker than i can kill them lol
What class do you play as?
scout
Well there's your issue
Okay yea. Scout has probably the hardest time to stand his ground.
The engi is backed up with the breach cutter and sentries. There is a difference in pure DPS.
do you think the breach cutter is really good for it?
If you cant zip zoop away then scout is the weakest of the bunch.
im using mods, so i can change equipment, i actually never used that option before
I prefer the Breach Cutter on my Engineer over the Grenade launcher.
Breach Cutter deals a lot of damage in a rather big area (especially nice when they are hudle around a lure), shreds armor. Overall a good time.
can you tell me your breathcutter modifications?
Scout's DPS is the worst in the game
Engie is the best for pure DPS, which is the most effective when you gotta stay inside a 5m radius circle
Sure. Gimme a sec.
Sometimes it even cuts away my breath.
🤣
2-1-1-1-3 with the light-weight cases as the OC.
we are missing less than 1 morkite. can't find the last small patch in the last room tough
And my primary of choice is the Lok1 with chemical rounds.
we are experiencing this but we can't complete the mission since we can't find that extra 1 and we have been looking for 45 minutes now
im gonna switch my boomstick on my scout with that and pray it works out lol 😛
Good luck!
Time to hit the stock market.
It's on the left from the entrance point
Should be some odd generation near it, you'll find a small hand sized patch of Morkite
I posted an image in #drg-gallery of it
you also gotta get every single pixel
Can't leave a singular 0.1 morkite behind
according to some of the smarter ones in here, there can be a rounding error that occurs, making it impossible to do it
the omoron room?
Yea
we allready have that one
Checked Room 2, in a small air bubble above the geyser?
yup
Okay
Then you're on your own, lol
i fear we have the rounding error
Make sure you get every pixel, and dont mine with full pockets
Or just get dark morkite.
Cuz if you got 39 in your pocket, then you mine 1.5 Morkite,
You'll only get 1 morkite, and the 0.5 dissapears (maybe this is how it works? Do not quote me, i am smooth brained. Just trying to make sense of it=
Ive just managed to do DD solo with Engi with no problem getting morkite on 2nd stage (ps4) guessing ive got lucky?
console doesn't have the issue
it sounds like just pc
on my ps4 run we had 150 morkite before we even got to the heartstone
Didnt some PS come in here earlier though?
The 2nd stage DD should give you barely 150 morkite
there was a ps person who said that they had dark morkite and had a room ready, they didn't say they had morkite issues
Can confirm. Dark Morkite solves the issue.
Ahhh I did ask earlier if it was just PC or not I was told ot was effecting everyone....good luck PC peeps 😩
..
There any chance the morkite got blasted under the ommoran? Last week had a decent chunk of the stuff in the EDD on top of the salvage pod
Theory rn is that the generation of the ommoran Hearthstone itself deleted some veins of Morkite
so there could be morkite under the heartstone?
I thought that too. But the map doesnt show any pockets of air underneath it.
Might be worth a shot to dig underneath.
i dug out the hearthstone nothing underneath
I'd say drill under then call in ammo pod. Since the area would be deployable terrain for the pod.. should drill right through and knock any morkite hiding in the crystal bed itself
so nothing got knocked out :/
Yeah I had to go through every single room and pick up every last shimmering microgram of morkite.
is this in dd or edd?
dd, but it's not an issue on ps
Lost like 5 min into stage 3 of the EDD. Severe lack of nitra on 1st stage. 3rd stage is very tough
Stage 2 got a good amount of Nitra. But yes. Getting into the main cave on Stage 3 is really difficult.
Hey guys, fuck morkite, am i rite
where is the morkite on stage 2
I heard there's a tiny bit behind the heartstone
Got to 149/150, whole team searched the entire map for twenty minutes
Didn't do the dive yet mysel, but heard rumors
SAME
I DID IT
IT HAD STRIP ALL THE MORKITE VEINS CLEAN
Hey, just had a quick question about the community in this game. Just got promoted on my driller, looking to do deep dives. Was just wondering how the toxicity was in them? I am a slow learner due to disabilities I have and don't think I can deal with a lot of toxic people. A little is ok and I can manage that, but if 7 out of 10 games are just sweaty kids playing MLG gamer, then I will probably avoid it all together and solo them.
Very little toxicity
Toxicity is still around but fairly low usually
Ok good, like I sadi. I have soloed up until deep dives. Never ran with other people, but I hear doing deep dives alone can take hours
the game runs on a "shared goal" dynamic. therefore there are incentives to finishing the mission with everyone intact, in the pod.
nah, at most it'll take your a bit more than one hour
but multiple hours ? probably not
i don't recommend doing the normal deep dives this week yet though, as it's bugged
multiple hours only comes from failing and retrying it a lot, but a successful run is generally at worst only 1.5h or so
Ok thanks for the info. I may try to solo one before joining other people. This game is amazing and good for my autism
so, there ARE toxic people, who think it's funny to grief. all games have them. but they are the rarity, not the norm. also, we have LFG channels here and voice chat, so you can likely find someone to have a go with who is fairly knowledgeable and willing to show you the ropes.
I can deal with the occasional . You cant be free of them in any game. I understand that.
Thanks for all the help everyone ❤️
soo uhh this elite deep dive has been really hard and i just now saw what the 3rd mission is
i dont want to play anymore
deep dives dont take hours if you're efficient. they're definitely a lot longer but if you're efficient its ok. i did my first one solo in 46 minutes
This is a special case because the map got bugged and the devs can't fix it
Was fine for me, no issues.
Solo’d with 2 downs.
same
i was able to get through the first 2 stages with some struggle but im now at on the last one and i cant even catch a breather
i feel like i kill a bunch of enemies and then a million more come
i kill one massive hoard just for another one to appear out of actually nowhere
i was on engineer
smg...
Oc?
miniswarms spawn when you get near a minimule and when you approached the trapped leg, so there's up to 6 of those before you can get to the end
i have well oiled machine, its the only one i have since i got my first promotion a week ago
not to mention the usual timed miniswarms
Theres your issue guy.
I had to hold the position at the entrance of the cavern for like 5 minutes at least before I could dare to enter.
Its a real flood.
Stubbs has big problems solo without emd or emrb
and yeah it has a nice welcoming party too
at least most are waiting in the cave and and not at the drop pod
i have executioner on smart rifle but i feel like it has so little ammo
And first promo soloing edd is pretty ambitious.
Allthough I use the Lok1 instead of the SMG.
the stubby is fine even without EM refire or EM discharge
i play every class so i promoted every character around the same time so i wouldnt be locked to one class on deep dives
also i did the elite last week first try pretty ok
Well, thats great!
Haha. Congratz!
hated the breachcutter tho
Eh, kinda struggles depending on the secondary.
Really gives you the needed legroom.
yes omg!
The Breachcutter? Whats wrong with it?
and they take sooooooo long to run out or die
