deep-dive-discussion

[tight lake]

It was me and my friend and we were Gunner/Driller

[pure cedar]

Easiest EDD since many weeks, well it felt that way for our team. Most problematic stage would in theory be the 2nd one but we took care of the macteras by regrouping each wave in a corner with platforms above us and a mini bunker. That worked well.

Lots of nitra too, no problems there.

[thorn patio]

Had a blast on edd stage 2. 3 engis and a cryo driller

Bunkered that bitch

Was funny seeing all those mactera zerging through the little hole we made for them and then slaughtering them all

[old widget]

I love engi meme teams

[thorn patio]

We started off with just a hole in the wall but then we said fuck it and turned it into a pancake fort

One of the reasons i love playing engi

Anytime i see another engi i know its gonna be a good time

[hollow dust]

Hordes of nitra in the edd this week, mini mules for the win. Our gunner left after stage one but with a combination of bunkering and cryo cannon/nades our team managed to pull through

Hipster and jumbo shells are really fun for destroying frozen enemies in a tunnel, love those blowthrough rounds.

[shut oracle]

i rather have not hipster and 1shot 4 grunts

[echo storm]

Im a drak cryo minelets enthusiast

[west merlin]

Which stage?

[quick scarab]

2nd stage, Bet-C extra thicc. @west merlin

[smoky wasp]

completed my first edd today with some really cool greybeard who welcomed me thanks miner!!!

[copper shard]

If it wasn't for hazard level, I'd say the regular deep dive looks harder this week, then again I hate liquid morkite missions for the most part.

[wraith shard]

Can i do elite mode with fire gun

??

And pistol

[copper shard]

I mean, if you have the upgrades and experience, sure.

[wraith shard]

I don't get buff on ice gun only beards for other dwarfs but I got one for fire so

[cursive lodge]

I feel like this edd should be one of the easier ones but Solo is kicking my ass.

[copper shard]

I managed to solo the EDD with scout, the 2nd part was the hardest, but it def seems like an easier one this week.

Wish I would have went in with Eng though, didn't read what it was this week or I would have switched back haha.

[cursive lodge]

I failed stage 1 three times with gunner and twice with driller last night

[copper shard]

What setup are you using for driller?

[cursive lodge]

Gonna try a vampire cryo setup tonight.
I was just using tuned cooler cryo basic setup.

Got detonator on both driller runs during refulling pod

[copper shard]

Oof, yeah bad rng there lol

[cursive lodge]

@copper shard how was scout setup? Mactera problem?

[copper shard]

Yeah that was the biggest issue, but I just had to keep on the grappling gun, a little more then usual but managed to pull through, plenty of nitra throughout the whole run though

And that def helped lol

[cursive lodge]

Primary weapon and oc?

[copper shard]

Well I was mainly using zhukov with cryo

That's what saved me alot of pain, but I went with the gk2 with AI and tried to balance it out, wasnt greatest choice, but like I said with the amount of nitra, it was a lil easier

I've got the grappling set up for fastest cooldown, so got into the habit of using it As much as possible, even though i mainly play eng

but I try to play with all four, just typically go with eng lol obv

I have all the weapon OC, so I get two blanks and a cosmetic when I do any deep dives, so I've been putting them off lately, but this weeks edd didn't look to hard

that being said, was still a challenge, i should have prepared better anyway lol

[hoary cove]

ai with cryo mines is some pretty bad synergy

since ai gets most it’s damage from weakpoints and has a low rof

[copper shard]

yes lol

trust me like i said, i wish i would have prepared better

well you can improve the rof a bit

but i thought it was setup a certain way based on when i last used it

i mean presets

[hoary cove]

bom is by far the best gk2 oc with cryo mines

it’s the same dps as ofm without running through as much ammo

[copper shard]

yeah thats more then likely what i would have used

but like i said, the extra nitra helped haha

[spring galleon]

In this edd I found 75 morkite at the top of the stage 3 drop pod, is this consistently there or was this a weird fluke?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710618512162422957/962072159881134110/unknown.png

[burnt sandal]

likely consistent

[spring galleon]

Interesting

[glossy walrus]

it probably drilled through it and it ended up falling ontop instead of below or something

and since the morkite spawns are fixed given the seed, it should happen everytime if that's what happened

[still veldt]

edd was chill but stage 2 be like:

[cerulean lichen]

there was way too much extra morkite anyways

[ocean rain]

i think i ended up with like 600 extra morkite by the end

[strong aurora]

How do you consistently join groups that deep dive? I dont see it as a searchable mission type.

[burnt sandal]

you check the lobbies in the deep dive terminal

[unkempt saffron]

Have you tried going to the deep dive terminal and checking the stuff in there?

[acoustic junco]

what should i use for edd stage 2

its super brutal

like alot of mactera and a betc

ive been using ntp ac and elephant rounds but not working that well for stage 2

[cerulean lichen]

are you doing solo?

[acoustic junco]

group

not doing rn

but just some build tips or idea

namely for stage 2 of edd

[cerulean lichen]

then there isnt much you can do, you need a responsive driller to make a quick bunker, so Macteras would come down to dwarf height

[acoustic junco]

ah

[cerulean lichen]

or engi platforms as a roof

[acoustic junco]

so basically go driller next time

mostly been doing randos

cryo will help right?

[cerulean lichen]

well, it is situational, tbh, i play crisper personally

only time where cryo shines is against goo bombers

but you can easily axe them, or other classes take care of them anyways

[proper timber]

Anyone mind giving me a brief run down for this weeks EDD I will be attempting is solo for the first time and I would like to be prepared

[cerulean lichen]

pinned messages

[proper timber]

Oh thanks

[wild birch]

this week edd easy or hard?

[tulip idol]

easy

[wild birch]

oh

[calm gate]

omg this one is easy? i failed twice on the last mission, on the signal charge and on the refueling part 😔

[wraith shard]

Almost failed made big hole with bomb but nobody put platform to fill gap in holes so get ambushed from rear during final showdown

[calm gate]

oh i tried that strategy on the second run! but they just blew it wide open and i died over and over 😫

[cerulean lichen]

EDD first stage, my Engi decided to make a bunker with his pickaxe under the link, and didnt want to come out xD

[wraith shard]

First try made mistakes of drill the green circle too far down :( so was to small area

[wild birch]

33 min in last edd

[wraith shard]

Build should be fine. If you're struggling with the mactera your team could position yourselves in a tunnel entrance during swarms. Fighting them in open space can be tricky. You could also ask your scout if they can bring cryo nades.
Ah, maybe use stun BRT as secondary

[lavish grove]

does anyone know the deep dive rewards for this week?

[wild birch]

?

[wraith shard]

It's always the same. Blank core for stage 1, weapon OC for stage 2, cosmetic OC for stage 3 + mission credit (20k for EDD, bit less for DD)

[lavish grove]

yeah i know but doesnt everyone get the same weapon oc/cosmetic core

[wraith shard]

No.

That's rng

[lavish grove]

ooohh yeah alright that makes sense

well thank you

[frank viper]

This week’s EDD looks so much easier compared to last week’s EDD. How are you guys finding it to be?

[wraith shard]

Yeah, it's very tame

[runic grove]

Who is edd?

Ahh.. elite deep dive..

[wild birch]

yes

[runic grove]

We tried it (was the first elite ever) and gloriously died after few minutes in

[wild birch]

easy

[wild birch]

tip:dont rush

[wraith shard]

When deep dive resets

[runic grove]

We came to the first big cave and... dead. Didnt know there are so much bugs and they do this much dmg lol

[wraith shard]

??

[wild birch]

every thursday i think

[runic grove]

I think thursdays

[wispy monolith]

if you check the terminal it tells you that

[wispy monolith]

how did you add a screenshot in chat here?

[spring galleon]

Oh lol attaching files is disabled here, weird

That's an embed link, I posted it to a more private discord server and just copied the link over

[wispy monolith]

ah neat trick 😄 thanks for that!

[pseudo knoll]

I FUCKING

HATE

TUNNEL WORM

I LOST ALL MY LIVES

TO TUNNEL WORM AT EDD STAGE 3

THANK YOU DRG

THANKS A LOT

AFTER 150 HOURS OF THIS GAME YOU FINALLY MANAGED TO MAKE MALD

[unkempt saffron]

just trawler things

[spice tree]

I like how the code name is old hell and during the first part there's enough exploder plants to make the game shit itself and die let alone burn the soles of your boots off trying to get past the mess you just made

[pseudo knoll]

looks like its time to never take off heightened senses

[spice tree]

I lost all 4 lives on mission 2 because lethal enemies is just straight bs

[drowsy heath]

Guys, can you tell me about the lunar event and the hat from the lunar event, if I can knock out this hat later, and will this hat be returned in the form of loot from cargo boxes, etc., did not have time to complete the event???☹️ ☹️ ☹️

[spice tree]

next lunar event maybe idk

[wintry delta]

probably returns next year as other events

[coral crest]

completed an EDD for the first time just now 🙏

https://imgur.com/22RPucu

almost did it on the first go, too

but I died right on the last fuel cell because it just decided to spawn everything on me, including a praet and an oppressor

if I tried this with the GK2 I probably would have gotten smoked

[coral crest]

also i just noticed I got Fat Boy from stage 2

[leaden cypress]

[pearl sundial]

Is it possible to get matrix cores from somewhere else other than the weekly assigment and the deep dives?

[cursive lodge]

No. With the exception of special events. I think you get one for the Easter event

[pearl sundial]

Yes that is true

Well darn

[cursive lodge]

I think the devs said they like it that way because it will keep people playing. Instead of running through and getting everything in a couple weeks.

It's kind of exciting basically getting a few new overclocks every Thur/Fri night. Usually I get at least one to try out and test through the week. I still don't have fat boy, cryo minelettes, or lead storm.

You should be able to get approx 7 new overclocks per week

[waxen terrace]

kill them before they hit you

and start learning to run or use shields

[undone parrot]

The last stage of the deep dive is brutal

[waxen terrace]

it isnt tbh

[undone parrot]

It was when I played it

[waxen terrace]

do you play above haz 3?

[undone parrot]

Hiveguard, and bulk after bulk

[undone parrot]

Yea

[waxen terrace]

then it aint really that brutal

[undone parrot]

Nowhere safe to walk either and earthquakes

[waxen terrace]

ask the engineer to platform

[undone parrot]

We probably dragged the PE too long tbh

[waxen terrace]

and that too

[undone parrot]

We did hiveguard at the end

Was probably a mistake

[waxen terrace]

but haz 3.5 spawns arent that insane unless you dick around too much

[undone parrot]

Isn’t it 4.5?

[waxen terrace]

yea if its a PE do the dreadnaught asap

no lol

[undone parrot]

I thought it was 3.5 4 4.5

[waxen terrace]

normal DD scaling is haz 3/3.5/3.5

[undone parrot]

Oh huh

[glossy walrus]

yeah only 3.5

[waxen terrace]

in EDD its 4/5/5.5

[glossy walrus]

and yeah ambient spawns don't pause during dreads if the base mission type is PE, so do it at the start or regret it

[undone parrot]

The more you know

[glossy walrus]

I learned that the hard way during an edd instead of a dd

[undone parrot]

Also do spawns get worse over time for PE

[glossy walrus]

yes, innate property of PE

[waxen terrace]

yea do secondaries ASAP in PE

[undone parrot]

Rip ok

[glossy walrus]

spawns get closer and closer together

until they're basically overlapping

[waxen terrace]

its the one mission you should try to speedrun

[undone parrot]

Dealing with three bulks a hiveguard and very cratered magma floors was not fun

Exploders too

[glossy walrus]

I popped hiveguard immediately on my run and was fine, even if we got 2 bulks later on

[waxen terrace]

if you time it right you can make the bulk kill the hiveguard

[undone parrot]

It’s fine tho, I don’t need the cosmetic

[waxen terrace]

gotta get forge mastery

[undone parrot]

Does forge mastery do anything besides perk points and a few free OCs?

[waxen terrace]

this week's edd is also surprisingly really easy for edd standards

it gives a free oc every 5 forges

[undone parrot]

So no

I don’t really need cosmetics atm and a weapon overclock every 10 forges isn’t enough for me to dump minerals into things I won’t use at the moment

[waxen terrace]

gotta hoard them all

[undone parrot]

Maybe when I get more minwrals and credits later

[waxen terrace]

credits are easy to get with DDs/EDDs

[undone parrot]

I’m always low on that one mineral and every overclock I get needs it

[waxen terrace]

just hope your weekly priority/core hunts are in the biomes you need

[undone parrot]

Yea

[waxen terrace]

or use the credits from DD/EDD to get the mineral you want

[undone parrot]

The credit to mineral efficiency

[glossy walrus]

if you play long enough you'll be drowning in everything except enor pearl and can just sell the other junk to buy the pearl

[waxen terrace]

^

[glossy walrus]

if you play long enough beyond that you'll be drowning in pearl too

[waxen terrace]

even enor pearls arent my most limited resource now

its bismor and jadiz

[undone parrot]

It’s jadiz and magnite for me atm

[glossy walrus]

I never had issue with bismor, but I did get jadiz blocked a couple times. usually was pearl though

[undone parrot]

Yea but the advantage to pearl is that sandblasted and salt pits are nice maps to play on

[waxen terrace]

i guess i crafted almost everything needing magnite and enor

and now whichever ocs that need bismor and jadiz are piling up

[undone parrot]

What is considered a sufficient amount of credits to hoard, anyway?

[waxen terrace]

im at the 400k mark

[undone parrot]

330k for me

[waxen terrace]

yea thats fine for like buying minerals once awhile

[cursive lodge]

I cracked 1mil credits about a week ago. Bought every "credit only" cosmetic. Dropped me down to 600k. Been helping people deep dive this week. Back to 900k

Probably gonna have to spend some credits soon to convert croppa to magnite. Next gunner promotion is going to cost 800 magnite

[upper geyser]

2.7 mil here, saving up to drop it all on cosmetic OC forges when season 2 drops (I hope this replenishes weapon forge mastery after getting all weapon OCS)

whoops wait 12k off 2.7 mil

[bold maple]

Every 10, technically

5 for a cosmetic core, 5 for OC. Alternating between the 2

[covert swallow]

@golden bluff in the pins of this channel

[golden bluff]

roger that

[wraith shard]

made it to stage two in the EDD

this hard

[calm jetty]

Easiest edd i have ever played in my life

[shut oracle]

yeah we had like 800 nitra left in the end

i was on engi and took the triple line perk for bc cause i knew theres alot of mactera

that and my 2 defender turrets made mactera pretty ez

[wraith shard]

Ye its my first EDD tho

[shut oracle]

u will get used to it

if u never done haz5 u can get a bit off with how fast grunts run

like for me if i play haz4 stuff sometimes feels like slowmo

[fallen jetty]

Honest question: If you don't take iorn will on a edd... why?

Is there something way better that beats a whole squad having 4 extra chances to not lose?

I am not great on edd's so no shade, but I am frequently the only person on the squad that takes it.

[wise swan]

Had a deep dive today. Magma core, exploder infestation on the last one and aquarqs with a dreadnought
Pain

[hoary cove]

idk, i just don’t use it all the often in general anymore

[wraith shard]

would executioner or explosive chemical rounds be better for the EDD?

[hoary cove]

depends on ur build

exec is good for menaces and pratorians

ECR is good for swarms

[tulip idol]

greenbeards take IW, veterans take what they think synergies with their builds

[fallen jetty]

Thanks for this. I figured it was a skill issue on my part that I take it but man there are plenty of edd's that IW would have "synergized" with the squad's builds

[tulip idol]

ye it's useful to have at least one IW but the thing is you always have at least one greenbeard so it kinda correlates 😄

anyways in all cases but Sabotage SYIH replaces IW in my builds

that is about synergies

[latent raft]

syih is really good, i just dont use it because i dont normally go down.

i run field med / dash on all my builds with some exceptions

[tulip idol]

you can use syih tactically too in that case, like to kill some dread/bet-c or to create protective field during salvage defense

some scout with field medic will ress you right away

syih is perk for defensive chaotic situations

I even used SYIH for 3-step fatality on caretaker once

[hoary cove]

you don’t need to go down for syih to be insanely good

[latent raft]

thats fair, its passive is amazing too

but i see syih more for its active, because a button press gunner shield on your body is really good

[fallen jetty]

Thanks for this. What is syih though? Level 85 and still a greenbeard.

I run iorn will, field medic, resupplier, vampire and the red sugar perks on pretty much all my builds.

[atomic prawn]

i only IW on scout

vamp n red sugar together?

a bit of an ovk 😂

[fallen jetty]

Clearly defensive build only concerned about my health and downed teammates

Yeah prob so lol

[atomic prawn]

if that's the case i'd probs get heightened senses

don't want that clutch to be ruined by some random leech/grabber 😂

[fallen jetty]

I have vamp for iw

And red sugar for well... red sugar

I should really start trying different "synergic" perk builds.

I know asking what are some good perk builds is like asking "how long is a piece of string" but what do you use?

[atomic prawn]

I run a very generalist build: dash, field medic, resupplier, red sugar, unstoppable
Except for scout who has IW instead of dash
And Driller who has vamp instead of red sugar

Yeah, it all boils down to playstyle

[fallen jetty]

Is getting mauled and needing more health a play style

[atomic prawn]

to live you must first unliven't

[fallen jetty]

That's deep

[atomic prawn]

and that's why we're in deep dive discussion 😂

I personally don't know anyone who actively changes their perks to suit the week's deep dives

I just have a couple weapon presets but use the same perks

Doesn't matter if it's cave leech cluster, or shield disruption, etc 😂

[cobalt glacier]

Syih stand for See you in hell

[fallen jetty]

I dont change then at all except when playing the bogs, then I switch out for unstoppable

[atomic prawn]

heh bungus fogs do be like that

[tulip idol]

see you in hell, also I wrote good comment on this a while ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/sme7ks/psa_greenbeards_take_note_if_you_see_a_dwarf_use/hvwrygt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[tulip idol]

Believe me, I see ranks 500-600 and they still do greenbeard things

It all comes to players how they develop themselves, some study guides and ask questions, and some just keep being delusional for hundreds of levels.

That's also good argument to why rank doesn't correlate with skill level when it comes to gathering your team for deep dives.

[tulip idol]

I suggest you to opt out from having 2 healing perks (especially vampire which has only a few synergised builds), try born ready instead
Also lemme explain you my understanding of your active perks roles:
Field Medic is high situationality to the point you can even trade someone for damage and quickly ress him afterwards and is usually in hands of team saver who can survive anything and be a guarantor that ensures in-time revival, avg reward is quite stable
Iron Will is, on the other side, low situationality and is in hands of player with lack of protective tools / equipment who can likely die in bad place at least once. Rewards go from being 100% unused to being 100% sure it saved the game -> very unstable.
So as you can see, these perks are mostly opposite, the only general side they have - directly affecting team survival which means that by combining there perks you'll get your increased survival rate but it's not the only way of doing it. You can survive and complete a mission by not going down in the first place. And a lot of perks help with that, like dash and hover boots, like Steeve and Shield Link...
So for me I only pick IW when I expect my build-style to be realllllly aggressive to the point I can die somewhere I don't wanna die, or it can be some new bugged or cheesy enemy that devs haven't fixed yet, or mb when I have to carry 3 very green beards that will likely put all the Hazard 5 4-players threats on my back and I cannot say that there is high enough chance of me recovering hard situation in case they go down.
Field Medic's requirements for me are having great crowd control / mobility to survive AND having good mobility to get to your mates really fast. That's why it's scout's default perk btw but there are some other builds eligible for that perk.

IW also gains advantage from mobility since you can hop to sugar to heal up or to mates real quick to ress them.

There is also IW-Field Medic combo I forgot about, which is quickly ressing your whole team under IW (which is kinda huge) but honestly, being 4-men down near each other and someone having IW & Field Medic at the same time and that someone knows that he needs to quickly revive the whole team and not waste time - yee... that situation is just extremely rare for me, that synergy is very low situationality
https://youtu.be/NzKtI4PhGKk

[fallen jetty]

@tulip idol what a write up! I appreciate the thought you put into it man! What you said makes a ton of sense. I'm going to read/watch some videos to dig deeper into reworking how I use my perks slots

[tulip idol]

well if you find good guide tell me, it's always better to link guides than to create write ups 😉

[wheat gull]

Cripes, this week's EDD is kickin my ass. My team keeps falling apart on the third mission. 😢

[waxen terrace]

if any of you encounter a mule, stick close together

[spice burrow]

...Is there ANY nitra on EDD stage 1?

[waxen terrace]

yes

[rose atlas]

Wish I'd grabbed a screenshot, but my group just came out of the standard dive with 200 each of magnite and croppa, thanks to two Huuli spawning.

Not exactly a feat of skill, but it's quite amusing when crafting minerals don't spawn naturally on dives.

[unkempt saffron]

Plenty

[acoustic junco]

theres like 300 or 200+

like 2 or 3 resups

[hollow citrus]

each mule you repair gives nitra too I think

[wraith shard]

This is true

[hollow dust]

The edd has a ton of nitra, ended up with over 600 at the end of stage 3

Part of that is the mini mules of course

[lime storm]

My group hit another wall with this weeks EDD. What're the odds of soloing it and what approach to take?

[frank viper]

Mactera plague and sandstorms are a pain in the ass

[wraith shard]

Doable, bring enough aoe. Remember that pulling a random leg/ getting close to mini-mules triggers small swarms, so try not to activate them accidentally while you're already overwhelmed or unprepared.

For stage 2, tunnel entrances are not a bad spot to gain some protection from all the macteras coming at you without restricting your movement too much. What class do you want to bring?

[mellow cove]

Easily soloable with any class with enough AoE

Just don't rush mini mules

[lime storm]

I recently promoted every class, but usually i main Scout

[mellow cove]

Yeah scout isn't the greatest pick for this EDD

[lime storm]

Figured

Driller maybe?

[mellow cove]

Driller works

[wraith shard]

Is duo EDD an option otherwise?

[mellow cove]

Just make sure your primary is good for macteras

[wraith shard]

It's probably the easiest way

[lime storm]

Doubt it

[wraith shard]

Can't find another person?

The enemy scaling is still very generously low for 2

[lime storm]

It's either solo or 3 at minimum

[mellow cove]

I mean, this one is not that bad for solo

Just gotta survive stage 2

Go gunner if you're not confident enough in your survivability skills

[lime storm]

Tuned Cooler Cryo Cannon should work i hope

[mellow cove]

10fp cryo works yeah

But I'd prefer snowball

Or just go gunner, safest pick

[lime storm]

I don't think my gunners do too well against Macteras

Build advice?

[wraith shard]

Stun BRT

[mellow cove]

Any hurricane build really

Well, any good hurricane build

[lime storm]

I used the weapon only once yesterday so i'll look one up

Will probably try driller first though

[wraith shard]

Yeah, I wouldn't run a class I'm not comfortable with maybe

[lime storm]

Thanks for the advice though

[vague sun]

me (gunner) and a driller, by ourselves, managed to knock out the regular DD

[tulip idol]

I would go asleep, nice

[calm gate]

does anyone have tips or something about stage 3 EDD salvage operation? in my experience thats the hardest mission in the game, i play scout with a lot of mods and solo. i just cant seem to kill all of the enemies that are spawning quickly enough, i always get overwhelmed by quantity and quality, every time i die there are 5 slashers and guards on my screen, and since there is no where to run i end up dying. cant even leave the circle and come back, since the stream of enemies never ends, and the progress goes down so i end up in a worse position than i started. i always lose at 80-90%. with the mods i can carry different equipment from other classes, so i tried the platform gun, i buried the thingy, but an oppressor came and blew it wide open, twice.
i either lose to an oppressor that just demolishes me since i cant run away, or a MASSIVE swarm of guards+slashers i cant ever kill cause they respawn quicker than i can kill them all
i appreciate any help!

[summer forge]

This normal DD seems like a really good one to replay

Around 360 minerals

I manage it as solo scout in 30 minutes

[green crown]

the normal dd 3rd stage is frustrating

[wraith shard]

a leaflover went drunk, refused to drink blackstrout, started deep dives, "it is too much, i cant play" and since he was the host the game ended

[waxen terrace]

what a leaflover

[tulip idol]

Grab some CC like fear (boomstick/m1k/drak AV), use nades actively - you can resupply with resupplier mod with all the insane amount of nitra you have and spam your nades, oppressor is 2 cryo nades if you want to freeze him but it's faster to kill him with Embedded detonators Zhuks / IFG-Conductive Zhuks with hollow and green oc / boomstick
and most importantly - get steeve buddy

[calm gate]

thanks for your help!! i have a few questions though, im not familiar with a lot of the lingo (i tried to check the wiki for them) since im new to the discord server, and i dont play coop. whats m1k and drak AV (what does AV mean?). i found the other primaries of the scout to be really weak so i use the default one. the boomstick fear is a good idea! i forgot about it!.
i also googled and saw a lot of people talking about the cryo gun which i havent got to try out yet, do you think it will be good?
i did spam grenades as much as i could but it just wasnt enough, i used the pheromone grenades.
whats embedded detonators, zhuks and "IFG-Conductive Zhuks with hollow and green oc"
i LOVE steve! i never give up on steve!
thanks for the help and im sorry im asking so many basic questions!

[tulip idol]

M1000 Classic - scout's primary and Aggressive Venting Overclock for Drak-25
cryo cannon is the best thing in salvage circle
detonators are overclock as well, zhuks are Zhukov NUK17 SMG (scout's secondary), IFG is scout's grenade and Conductive Bullets are NUK17 Tier 5 mod, green oc is green (clean) overclock

scout is the hardest class for any kind of defense fyi

Drak is stronger than GK2, it just has weaker sound effects

[calm gate]

thank you! i guess its time to buy the zhukov lol :))

[tulip idol]

IFG-NUK17 and hollow point mod do big damage to weak points tho

[calm gate]

really? i always found it way harder to kill things with the drak

[tulip idol]

It's popular opinion nowadays that GK2 lacks dps

kinda outdated

but we experience those weapons in full power, I don't remember how it is when it comes to basic weapons without OCs

I think it might be the same, but gk2 is certainly less skill cap

good starting weapon

[calm gate]

i have OPA TLC and AC for the drak

[tulip idol]

well now I don't know those 😄

[calm gate]

oh i was hoping you would lol :))

[tulip idol]

I mean I know opa ofc but can you tell what others are (full names)

[calm gate]

overtuned particle accelerator. thermal liquid coolant and aggressive venting

[tulip idol]

ac?

[calm gate]

aggressive venting

[tulip idol]

more like AV I mention right?

[calm gate]

oh sorry lol

my brain did the weird connection of venting = cooling = air conditioner 🤣

[tulip idol]

that AV has free fear like very 2 second all around you

and burns too

[calm gate]

does fire remove the freeze effect?

[tulip idol]

yes with temperature shock

but it only goes fire on overheat

you control it 100%

you can do manual overheats

and control heat level

for different enemies it's different burn temperatures so you need to overheat sooner or later

[calm gate]

this gun is so confusing

i feel like i need a PHD to use it

[tulip idol]

that gun just has last year generation mechanics

you go into crowd

shoot to like 75% heat

press r

and no bugs around you

build is 1-1-3-1-1

best combo is, ofc, embedded detonators - the most overpowered scout's gun

OPA is the next thing after AV I'd recommend for salvage

but AV's advantage is insane against macteras on Stage 2 so..

[calm gate]

dont have detonators yet, i will use cryo minelets atm

[tulip idol]

look - AV is AoE weapon mostly

and you need to complement it with some single target

[calm gate]

yeah those macteras are a pain, but im using the rockets with the cryo enchantment from bosco to deal with them

[tulip idol]

like boomstick or high dmg nuks

NUK17 i mean

boomstick has Jumbo overclock that is alternative to detonators

[calm gate]

well, with one of the mods im using, i can replace my flare gun with another piece of equipment from any class, so i can have my single target there

[tulip idol]

cryo minelets does the same job as agressive venting - so it doesn't really stack

you need weapon against oppressors

AV won't do it, it cannot finish large creatures fast

[calm gate]

till now i just used my GK2 and grappling hook xd

[tulip idol]

cryo minelets simplify the task for high dps weapon but AV is not it

[calm gate]

is the minigun good for single targets?

[tulip idol]

sorry, that modding you mention it seems cheating to me

never used it

[calm gate]

its approved

[tulip idol]

ye that means it's approved to change balance significantly

there are approved mods that change the game a lot

every class is mostly defined by his tools

that's why devs never introduced tools' overclocks or just another tools

[calm gate]

so what other weapon should i use for single target?

[tulip idol]

again, high damage boomstick or NUK17 with hollow point and conductive bullets which pair with Inhibitor Field Generator

that will give you insane dps under IFG bubble on the bugs' heads

you throw IFG at oppressor or praet - you get 69% more damage with conductive bullets nuk17

[calm gate]

okay, thanks

[echo storm]

I wish we were able to reskin our tools

I would like to give my turret a hat

[spring granite]

they really did do mactera plague egg hunt two weeks in a row huh

:pepehands:

[wheat gull]

surprised I didn't have mactera nightmares last night, goddamn last night was rough trying to get the EDD done

[stuck swan]

Some could call this weeks EDD Unknown EGGclosure, am I right?

[solemn lake]

Is today's DD possible for solo scout?

[fallen jetty]

I think so. @tulip idol dropped a ton of good info today for a solo scout edd and a bunch of perk related tips to me yesterday if you end up struggling with it.

[solemn lake]

Done it
First DD ever

really sweaty at the last one, hipster really showed it's colours though

A hiveguard on refinery
Good thing there wasn't a sungle bulkie in sight

[viscid seal]

Did the devs ever talk about adding new achievements?

[cursive escarp]

People who rage quit on normal deep dives smh

[glacial harness]

what if i a soloing it?

[cursive escarp]

With teammates

[formal thicket]

This week EDD was ez

[manic pivot]

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[severe owl]

any tips for edd?

[vague sun]

we lost the edd at the last moment, damn

[vague sun]

revenge

[viscid seal]

I'm currently level 71 on the season pass, can i reach 100 before it ends assuming i'll be doing all missions?

[hazy comet]

you can grind it out there is lots of time it will just take a lot of it

[summer wigeon]

If you don’t grind it out, you can still get the stuff from cargo crates

[bitter socket]

idk if any'a ya'll nerds just finished a dd with me, but gg

always fun to see a fresh greenbeard complete their first dive

[native relic]

mission control having some technical difficulties

[fleet coral]

I am in eternal pain.

I got so close to completing the Deep Dive...

It was my first time solo, and my second Deep Dive ever, and I just had to survive one more minute for the drop pod to pull me out

Then a tri-jaw blasted me to bits

And this was on the last stage

[bitter socket]

trijaws are mean

they deal a ton of damage lol

[fleet coral]

Yeah, no, if you get hit by all three shots, you basically die

That's what I've learned today

[bitter socket]

i'd be impressed if that managed to happen

lol

[fleet coral]

That-

[bitter socket]

even just one strips the shield

[fleet coral]

That's exactly what happened to me

[bitter socket]

rip

[fleet coral]

Tbf, it was close range

I was trying to slip by it like an idiot

No matter what game I play, I always seem to try and slip by in close proximity

[bitter socket]

x3

there was an attempt, you'll do it better next time :)

[jaunty wasp]

Is the GSG headgear unlocked through level or is it a cosmetic matrix core?

[long pivot]

I think it's a seasonal thing?

Actually may not be available anymore

[wraith shard]

Do you mean the Skeleton Crew helmet with the skull? That's supporter DLC iirc

[long pivot]

No it's the cap with GSG on it I think

Head Honcho

Yeah it's no longer available it was an early access thing

[jaunty wasp]

Ah damn

That sucks

[long pivot]

It does yeah :((

I thought it was seasonal but yeah no longer available

[analog blaze]

This weeks EDD: WE HEARD YOU LIKED MINI MULES AND BUNKERS

EDD1: Rough due to transmission mules and a cave full of spawner stuff. Scout, EPc mine or bosco is mandatory to reach the morkite.
EDD2: Mactera overload. Bunker up somewhere and take it slow egg by egg and mule by mule. Hardest mission of the bunch.
EDD3: Same as EDD1, but easier. Several leeches.

Overall: thorns helps for small enemies, heightened senses counters grabbers and leeches and sand sharks.

[sinful egret]

guys why on aquark mission bugs spawn all the time. i dont even have time to find me some nitra

[analog blaze]

Extraction missions always spawn small, unannounced groups of glyphids, which increases over time. Getting near/digging out an aquarg also triggers a nearby swarm.

[tulip idol]

don't fight bugs do objective

[analog blaze]

Yeah it's a race against time as the swarms increase. By 10 mins you get huge swarms

[sinful egret]

kinda hard not to fight bugs because they spawn very often and i wanted to do aquark just because of golden fever

[analog blaze]

• digging aquarg auto-spawns some near you, like you dug out an egg

[sinful egret]

but without any sound and notification

nice

[analog blaze]

Your minehead has guns to help

Also, this is wrog chat for that? Deep dive talk

[unkempt saffron]

They should be manageable, even if youre playing solo

[random rampart]

No, this is actually the right chat.

[sinful egret]

they run out of ammo fast

ok then thanks for helping to understand the game

[unkempt saffron]

Then youre spending too much time in the mission

Manage your time and multitask, if youre playing solo bosco is of great help to get aquarqs

[tulip idol]

I recorded one PE in the past where I stayed till risky pressure, mb it helps
https://youtu.be/TsdpbgCTPHo

[cursive cedar]

omg ...so many troll in DD today

[humble barn]

Anyone AU wanna do an elite deep dive?

[vital cloud]

anyone want to do the elite deep dive

[coral crest]

Wardens, Exploders and Acid Spitters are in the spawn pool for both salvage missions, and Oppressors can spawn on the 3rd stage, all of which are bad news for uplink/fuel phase. Combine that with the Trawlers that spawn thanks to the biome, and your ability to quickly pick off priority targets while also handling the usual waveclear is put to the test.

As Zarhon mentioned, the salv missions also have Brood Nexuses in the main rooms, so try to clear them out early to minimise attrition damage. While the main salvage rooms are huge, they're also relatively open-plan with nothing much in the way of sudden chasms or other things that might impede someone who needs to make a swift escape, so it shouldn't be terribly risky to rush in and pop them.

As far as I can remember, a fair chunk of the Nitra is relatively accessible. While I won't go so far as to say you're guaranteed a surplus, you can probably afford to take the second mission (with those wads of Mactera) at a comfortable pace, and maybe treat yourselves to pods in the 3rd mission in order to enable generous use of grenades, Fat Boys etc.

Considering the drop pod areas are quite exposed and perhaps too difficult for your engineer to try and funnel the enemies with plats, you ought to do the latter if you can afford to.

Speaking of that second mission, you predictably will live or die by how you play around the periodical swarms. While all the Mactera types are threatening, I personally suggest killing the Tri-Jaws first. That's easier said than done, since they have a tendency to potshot you from behind a wall of Spawns, often forcing you to reposition to kill them.

You'll also note that the main egg room is quite vertical; not exactly Magma Core vertical, but there is a noticeable "ground floor and first floor", as it were. If you're down below when the Mactera spawn, immediately seek higher ground! They're impossible to dodge if they're directly above you.

Try to save harvesting the eggs until after you've just killed off one of the incidental Mactera spawns. You really don't want to have to deal with more of the damn things on top of each-other because someone procced an egg swarm.

I believe stage 2 had one Leech, and stage 3 had two (one of which is within range of the drop pod). I don't remember if stage 1 had one.

I second Thorns and Heightened Senses as perk recommendations.

Thorns is generally useful and will help take the edge off the Nexus Swarmers.
Heightened Senses gives you an invaluable lifeline against Trawlers, which are probably the biggest wildcard the salvs can throw at you. Save yourself the heartbreak, and if you get caught anyway, save your team the trouble of rescuing you.

[violet warren]

Can't oppressors spawn on any mission due to being elite praetorians?

[hoary cove]

Thorns isn’t that good on haz 5 due to the cooldown, so it’s really only gonna help if one or 2 swarmers attack. I don’t think heightened senses is all the good either if ur team is semi competent. Trawlers can be annoying but they aren’t common enough to sacrifice an active imo

[toxic prism]

There's a cooldown on thorns?

[empty mortar]

Yes

[burnt sandal]

yes, 0.75s IIRC

[toxic prism]

darn never knew that, 630 hours in.

[burnt sandal]

It won't protect you entirely from swarmers but if you have no AoE, it's good to bring to help clear them up faster with your pickaxe

so you save on ammo

[toxic prism]

I always run thorn, might change my strat. athough we did beat this EDD on first try.

Management will have to explain to me where the thorns on my armor go for 0.75 second..

[burnt sandal]

safety measure

[old widget]

Just a quick clarification - while it may /seem/ like this happens sometimes, there's no game mechanic that makes bugs spawn when you dig up aquarqs. (There's also no mechanic that makes bugs spawn when you deposit aquarqs, which is another common PE myth). Ambient wave spawns in PE are timer-based.

Triggered ambient waves /do/ happen in Salvage missions (when getting close to a mini-mule for the first time, and when digging out one of the four "booby-trapped" legs) but not in PE.

[analog blaze]

Is that so? I kind of thought it was timer and aquarg based. It certainly seems like whenever someone digs up aquarg, they get a swarm for their troubles regardless of timer, often close to the aquarg itself...

Was not aware that one of the legs is 'booby trapped' (or is it always the first one / random if it happens?)

IMO triggered spawn should be made apparent/obvious as with egg missions. It ain't fun when say a scout zips past three mini-mules whilst the digger digs up three legs and causes 9 waves worth of enemies to spawn at once.

[buoyant wing]

it is random for each mule, so up to 6 can occur if they are bum-rushed

additionally bugs generally tend to spawn somewhere near the player, so it is just a coincidence of place and time

[buoyant wing]

it's more obvious if you're a sweaty driller that gets aquarqs out at mach 5 that it isn't the case

otherwise I'd be swimming in (more) bugs

[austere creek]

That's real interesting. I never knew that picking the wrong leg in Salvage spawned a mini-swarm too. That would be why it seems sometimes more bugs spawn than usual.

I always thought spawns in On-Site Refining had a similar mechanic to Point Extraction where swarms get worse over time, but apparently that isn't the case.

[buoyant wing]

technically does but not in the way PE does, bugs don't stop once the process begins but they are distracted by broken pipes. Then when the button is pressable it's just post-escape levels of buggery

[austere creek]

Yea, that was always weird to me. You'd think that the pipes breaking would be the most frantic part of a mission, but it's actually the best time to resupply and take a breather.

[latent raft]

there is a "booby trapped" leg? is there any way to tell that apart from the rest?

i originally thought that the spawning was a random chance when pulling a leg

[calm chasm]

Wait what?

[old widget]

Yes. This behavior is documented in the wiki: https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Salvage_Operation

"Coming within 2 meters of a Mini-M.U.L.E. for the first time will trigger a large wave of enemies after 12 to 30 seconds. Another, smaller wave of enemies will spawn when one of the legs that are found near each Mini-M.U.L.E. is dug out. This leg is picked randomly."

[latent raft]

ok so the "trapped" leg is picked randomly, and you cant tell it apart then

other than after you pull it

[old widget]

Erm, sorry. Yes it's real, no it looks the same.

[latent raft]

ok got it, thank you! i learned something today

[buoyant wing]

take no chances, unearth them all

[old widget]

gotta have those souvenirs

[old widget]

The first topic in https://deeprockgalactic.fandom.com/wiki/Common_Misconceptions covers this in a little bit better detail than the main PE page:

"The big (announced) waves come at regular intervals; the smaller (unannounced and more frequent) enemy spawns increase in size - but not in frequency - as time goes on. Since growing mini-waves take longer and longer to clear, the miners will have less and less breathing room between big swarms, eventually reaching a point of constant onslaught."

But yeah, it's timer based. For questions like this you can also generally pop into #wiki-related-chatroom where folks research these game mechanics.

[wraith shard]

anyone know how to complete the EDD easily?

I can do the first mission but not the second or third

I bunker for the first mission

but the mactera buttfucks my team on edd2

Drill a tunnel into a cave wall and chill out there

[hoary cove]

things good for mactera include snowball on cryo cannon, Pgl with fire mod, breach cutter with triple beam, and scout cryo nades. There are also a lot of goo bombers so make sure someone has a fast way of clearing them out

[hoary cove]

boring

[wraith shard]

Yeah but it makes it easy

[hoary cove]

it’s easy without bunkering

the hardest thing about it is the goo bombers imo. But once you clear those out, the mactera come at a very manageable speed

[orchid jasper]

my first solo EDD. Did it with Engineer with Lok-1 Electrochem/BC-Inferno.

Took my 9 total downs but bosco got me through.

[coral crest]

oh, this also happens to mention Oppressors not being bound by the typical spawn pool rules

[wary wyvern]

Do people get angry over Scouts doing DPS?

[tall meadow]

So long as scout also uses flares and also gets the nitra when they can

It’s all good

[waxen terrace]

^

[tulip idol]

it's ok to dps when team is smh unable to do that themselves

[hollow dust]

You'd think people would get more mad when scout isn't doing dps because he wouldn't be contributing as much during swarms

[scenic finch]

I use emb dets and hipster on every mission

My existence is to deal damage.

[jovial sail]

I tend to either hard-kite or be the tankiest scout you can imagine

[unkempt saffron]

He could be doing something just as important, not all scouts need to be doing dps in order to be useful, for all we know he could be kiting or taking care of all those pesky important bugs

[tulip idol]

actually with AV you can support and DpS at the same time lol

I always get great kill count that way

[west merlin]

Oh good point that's probably part of where we messed up.
My team did fine in the 1st mission but as I was typing "mules first then eggs" the gunner pulled an egg, it wasn't even a swarm egg but we got absolutely overwhelmed

Went through 4 iron wills and still lost because there were just So. Many. Mactera.

I was running flamethrower with sticky because of the 2 salvage missions, might bring the Cryo cannon + have our scout bring Cryo nades next time

Come to think of it we could also just bunker for the 2nd mission

[rocky chasm]

We went through this EDD duo, he was a cryo driller, I was a plasma hurricane gunner

Pretty easy

Because it got TON of nitra

[spark bridge]

whooo second elite deep dive i attempted, and we did it!

[wheat gull]

wow the EDD is way more chill solo, apparently

[hoary cove]

scaling

[wheat gull]

Makes sense, more drastic than I expected. I've run the EDD like.. 7 times this week? Gotten our arses handed to us every time but one. 😮

[hoary cove]

If you think solo is easy, try doing edd as a duo. The scaling is the same as solo

[echo storm]

ok stage 2 has a really nice spot to huddle for the mactera waves

[wheat gull]

I liked the tunnel running beneath

[wheat gull]

Woo! Officially solo'ed my first EDD. 😄

[burnt sandal]

congrats !

[sick lake]

Gonna start the DD in the morning. Any tips for this one?

Running 2 dwarves. My partner will probably be gunner or driller. Not sure which of the 4 to use

[waxen terrace]

engineer

[hoary cove]

DD is haz 3 - 3.5 so if you can do haz 3 without issue, you can do a DD

[sick lake]

Oh yar, i figured as much. Just didnt know if there was anything odd to watch for on this one, or which miner works well for this

Probably run engie with burning breach cutter and executioner smart rifle

For fuckin around in regular missions i use mini shells shotgun, double turrets and the nuke but DDs I use single turret, and the above weapons

If my driller is using cryo cannon would it be smarter for me to use spinning death than burn for breach cutter?

[burnt sandal]

yes

[sick lake]

Sweet. Thanks

[unkempt saffron]

You could still run inferno, but maybe just be a bit more conservative with it i.e. wait for the driller to freeze things before firing

[timid torrent]

Any tips for a solo Scout on his first Deep Dive?

I haven't started yet, mostly because I've been playing other games recently, but I'd like to get the overclocks/mods/whatever because they seem sick as hell

[trim creek]

I'm wondering if it would be smart for me to attempt my first EDD at level 45 with twice promoted Scout. Is my beard still too green? 🤔

[timid torrent]

If the general idea is to just play well, I can do that
but I was wondering if there's any specific stuff I should know beforehand

[tulip idol]

why everyone wants to go scout on EDD with all defensive stages? 😄

Driller / Gunner seem to be the easiest picks

[timid torrent]

because scout best character
grapple hook go fwoosh

[lost night]

Does anyone on SEA region havent done DD or EDD?

[restive trout]

Whats a good built for the EPC? I would like to mine stuff with it. I use the cryo cannon as the primary.

[lost night]

2-1-2-2-2 with Energy routing OC

[restive trout]

Thank you.

Energy Rerouting, Clean OC. Ye?

[lost night]

yep

more ammo and fast charge

[restive trout]

Thanks. Then Ill try to learn how to mine with that thing. Always used the machien gun Subata before.

Ooh. The gun is fun. I missed out big time!

[lost night]

Well you miss out the day make sludge pump broken

well we use to be ingite the puddle with epc, nut now it required heat mod on T5

[restive trout]

I have yet to use the Sludge Pump. Driller was the class I struggled the most with and I just got comfortable with the flamethrower and cryo cannon.

[sly spade]

Just finished solo elite deep dive

using Drak and Nuk17

[restive trout]

Congratz. How was it?

[sly spade]

first go caused me to sleep for 12 hours because I lost and screamed out loud in my home, I basically lost my last life just as the fuel pod got finished and I died and lost level 3 just steps before I got into the pod

BUT, 12 hours later aka now, I tried again and I got better RNG since less enemies spawned

[restive trout]

Ouch. Thats rough.

[sly spade]

😂

I probably should have played with a group but I was feeling masochistic

[restive trout]

I do EDD solo as well.

And I dont struggle too much with them. I use Engineer with the Lok1 and the Breachcutter.

[restive trout]

I find solo runs easier than with a team. Since you only gotta carry yourself.

[sly spade]

to an extent yeah! But every time I get into a team.. I get lucky

like.. legendary 500+ player level greybeards haha

carrying my 104 player level semi-beard

[restive trout]

You do you. Once I had 2 engineers in a deep dive both with fat boys equiped. It was a very... very stressful mission.

[scarlet jewel]

Dont you mean it was a very green mission

[restive trout]

Everyone was BEAMING all the time. Really RADIATING positive energies.

We all took naps all the time. Watching the green glitters around us.

It took us 30 minutes and 2 resupplies to take down that one dreadnaught in that terrible arena layout.

I played scout and ended up with around 40 revievs.

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[coral crest]

first things first, deep dives use a particular seed that only changes every week

so essentially the caves will be the same no matter how any times you run it; don't be too discouraged if you screw up the first time, because you'll go in next time with an advantage (knowing the cave layouts, knowing where objectives are located, knowing what spawn pools each stage has...)

secondly, regular deep dives aren't terribly difficult in the scheme of things; the three stages are at haz levels 3, 3.5 and 3.5 respectively

basically if you can consistently clear haz3 you should be okay

thirdly, if you want to spoil yourself on what the current deep dives have in store, check the channel pins

after all, you may find yourself in a bit of a jam as Scout if you have to do a Salvage objective with fuckin' Low Oxygen warning or something

[zealous granite]

why scout particularly?

[coral crest]

low oxygen in general is annoying to deal with as scout, if not necessarily life-threatening, considering you spend most of your time in far-flung corners

[zealous granite]

True but I think because of your increased mobility its even less of an issue as compared to the others

[coral crest]

scout's waveclear is not the best, which makes salvage uplink/fuel a bit of a gamble (if you get an oppressor you're in deep)

[zealous granite]

ah yes that is true

[coral crest]

i don't even know if you can get low oxygen on salvage tbh

oh yeah you can

the uplink and fuel pod have oxygen on them too

[waxen terrace]

you can

low o2 mainly just tells you to slow down or die

or hug molly otherwise you die

[elder glacier]

im doin my first ever deep dive solo, wish me luck

[glossy dock]

I wish you Nitra.

[unkempt saffron]

Honestly, scout would probably be the best for low o2, you can simply zip back to molly in a pinch if need be

[south viper]

meta?

[west merlin]

Oof, 2nd try at the EDD both my friends forgot to bring Iron Will and then while clearing the room on the 3rd stage we all died and the rando Gunner and I both IW'd at the same time since I was panicked.
Then we got to the very end and just after finishing refueling we all went down and lost the mission

[empty crest]

managed to get a bulk to kill the hiveguard on stage 3✌️

[sly aurora]

Just done deep dive 36:53. Was good fun.

[hoary cove]

except scout can kill oppressors and bulks very easily with ifgs

so the main threat are the swarms

[coral crest]

time you spend outside the uplink killing oppressors and bulks is time you're not spending killing the swarm

more swarm, less time spent in uplink, more time running, less time killing, more swarm

[hoary cove]

yes but scout has the easiest time by far killing them

[coral crest]

Yes I know but that's not the point

other classes have more difficulty with oppressors purely in regards to killing them outright, but they compensate for it by being able to deal with the swarm more effectively

it's not that oppressors are difficult to kill (although even that depends on how they're positioned and especially how many buddies they have around them), it's that they distract you from everything else and reduce the amount of breathing room you have while they're alive

And "with IFGs"? yeah, i guess, assuming you're not already using the IFGs to make the zerglings slightly more manageable

[hoary cove]

why can’t you use it for both

you get 6

[coral crest]

because only one can be active at a time

[hoary cove]

no?

that’s just straight up not true

have you not used ifgs that much?

they are actually insanely strong, I’d argue theyr the best grenade in the game due to the 30% dmg increase from all sources

[coral crest]

strange. I tested it just now and apparently more than one can be active. I distinctly remember having one go away as I popped another one but I guess I just happened to time it just so

not that I appreciate your patronising tone either way

[burnt sandal]

you could always use more than one IFG

[little timber]

I appreciate your patronizing tone kinked

Patronize me

[coral crest]

that aside having to use IFGs wasn't actually the main problem anyway, far from it

[hoary cove]

I get what your saying, but i honestly get through most haz 5 solo scout missions by spamming ifgs lol

[zenith gyro]

Thinking of doing a deep dive for the first time, anything i should know?

[burnt sandal]

Nitra, ammo and HP carry over to the next stage, and each stage is a bit harder than the previous one

that's about the most important things you have to know

[zenith gyro]

Ok. Thank you! 😊

[burnt sandal]

Oh, also : all objectives must be completed before moving to the next stage

[zenith gyro]

Fester flea flash backs lol

[burnt sandal]

there are only primary objectives so no such things 😄

but you get two of those per stage

[zenith gyro]

Oh ok sweet

Hows the difficulty scaling for each stage?

[burnt sandal]

In normal deep dives : 3/3.5/3.5
In elite deep dives : 4.5/5/5.5

[zenith gyro]

Just making sure, but those numbers stand for the normal difficulties?

[tall meadow]

Yup

In reference to hazard

[west merlin]

Yes, 3 and 5 are exactly the same as if you were on a mission (with the same warnings) and selected "hazard 3" and "hazard 5", while 3.5, 4.5 and 5.5 are special intermediate difficulties where enemy HP and damage are slightly higher

So personally I would suggest doing at least a few Haz 5 missions before you even bother trying an elite deep dive.
Although it's not as much harder than you would expect, thanks to nitra carrying over and a few other factors, but still very hard

[old widget]

Small clarification - enemy count and effective HP scales for 3.5/4.5/5.5 vs 3/4/5, but thankfully damage (and enemy speed) remains the same. Basically just a tad more (and tougher) enemies

[west merlin]

The secondary is usually not that hard actually, IME a single deep dive stage is almost always faster than a normal mission.
Since you have no tertiary objectives (machine event etc) or crafting resources, and the primary objective is usually a low mission length, I don't think you ever get 8 eggs or 400 morkite for example

[west merlin]

Oh I didn't know damage and speed were always the same good to know.
Another thing to note is the amount of HP you have upon being revived doesn't go down, which I personally found to be the biggest jump between 3 and 4

[old widget]

True

[west merlin]

A couple minor things to add:
-New people can't join after you launch a DD so if you're playing multiplayer make sure you get 4 players (or however many you want) before you start. However if someone loses connection they can rejoin.
-Perks like Iron Will and Field Medic with 1 use/mission regain use between stages. In MP make sure your team brings at least one or two Iron Wills as it can save the entire dive

Also try to coordinate (voice chat is best for this) so you don't all Iron Will at once

[zenith briar]

is it reasonable to do the standard deep dive solo?i just promoted engineer and keep ddying at the last stage and wonder if you are not supposed to do it solo

[unkempt saffron]

Yes of course, you can even solo the elite one too

Just requires the skill to do so

[zenith briar]

ah ok

what weapon would you say is best for this weeks dive on the engineer if you dont mind me asking

[unkempt saffron]

For the deep dive? Anything works since it isnt too difficult

[zenith briar]

ok thanks im just bad at the game then lol

lost 4 times haha

[empty mortar]

its fine to fail what matters is you tried

[manic pivot]

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[empty mortar]

uhhhh

[tall meadow]

don't mind mission control

he does this when it comes close to ending

[neat moss]

how the fuck are people solloing this edd

i have been wiped by the macteras over 5 times now in stage 2, any moment i get to start gathering eggs theres 5 or so mactera on me and i just can't get a break

[neat moss]

110 hrs

just finished it then attempt 7 with 2 gunners

shield was all we needed

[median furnace]

did anyone else find the sand wind blasty thingy complete cancer on this EDD?

i was soloing it fine but ended up failing at the end of the second stage because i was continuously blown into the massive central pit thing and all 3 of my deaths were to fall damage of like 200+ feet

[hoary cove]

i just sat in the pit

[buoyant wing]

a lot of anger and c4

[keen marten]

Yo what would be a better combo with the lok 1

Gl or breach

[unkempt saffron]

Usually bc, but the pgl works fine too, matter of preference and build

[burnt sandal]

either are good

[keen marten]

Yea both are good which is why I can’t decide

😔

[unkempt saffron]

Just choose whichever you prefer

[buoyant wing]

can't go wrong with bc but I like booms personally

[coral raptor]

personally I find the lok is best at picking off a few targets here and there that the rest of your kit (turrets, wave clear) miss. So just use whatever you feel is best against large packs of enemies, and clean up the survivors with lok

[spiral sierra]

I finally got my first promotion

[coral crest]

the 2nd stage has a couple of inconvenient gust placements, yes

in particular there's like a big cavity in the wall from where it's convenient to run around and fire on the mactera, but there's a gust covering the entire back side of it that punishes you if you forget about it and back up too far

but i also was playing scout so

[fleet coral]

Hang on, what's the exact time the DDs refresh? I'm not in-game so I can't check and do the math

I'm in Mountain Time, though my state doesn't observe Daylight Savings so it's the same as Pacific Time.

[vital sluice]

It's in 4 hours and 46 minutes

[unkempt lantern]

phase 3 of the DD was brutal, but fun.

[hollow citrus]

wonder what the new regions are gonna be this week

pls no hollow bough, azure weald or dense biozone

[reef bison]

Hopefully this weeks dives provide more of a challenge

[reef bison]

Once you get fatboy you will never go back to anything else

[worn acorn]

breach cutter ?

[restive trout]

We havent been in Glacial Strata in a while. And maybe Radioactive Exclusion Zone.

DD will be doing a lot of pumping. And EDD will feature two Dottis.

[sly kettle]

Wouldn't mind me some On-Site Refinery. Love that mission type.

[hollow citrus]

A korlok or betc in each stage too

It’s time to squeeze those ammo deposits dry

[pine epoch]

Why not both?

[restive trout]

Is my favourite too honestly.

[dense pond]

yeah hopefully

edd's are too easy nowadays

[summer forge]

It was a good DD to run this week

Double huuli was something, I ran it like 15 times

[restive trout]

Allright. Time to strap my favourite EDD and DD loadout and do them.

Ah crude.

Right.

Summer time.

[manic pivot]

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[restive trout]

Yea

[hexed coral]

Any tips for a 1st time Deep Diver? (Ps4)

[pine epoch]

The difficulty levels are fixed and increase with every mission. Ammo and nitra carries over from mission to mission, so don't spam resupplies

Perks reset every mission

So single-use perks can be used once per mission

[restive trout]

You going solo or with a team?

[hexed coral]

Probably random joining a team...unless solo would be better?

[restive trout]

Both have advantages and disadvantages.

[hexed coral]

Yeh I can imagine...😂

[restive trout]

Solo: You get Bosco. I love Bosco. I would put down my life for Bosco. Also the amount of enemies is so designed that you can handle it. Enemies scale with numbers y'know.

Team: I say with a team mission go faster. More hands on deck and so. Also more fun.

However as well as you can be carried by some greybeards, you also could be dragged down by some greenbeards. Toss of a coin.

[hexed coral]

Yeh all good advice/points...I might try running it solo to get my bearings 1st then...then join a team once I know the drill...

[restive trout]

Also if you going with Gunner, certain missions could turn into a nightmare. Like building a pipeline on a slope 40 metres up.

I run DD and EDD solo with my engi. No sweat. Bosco got 3 pick me ups per stage and I got Iron will which recharges during each stage as well.

Besides that. Tips in general. You got two main objectives. One more main than the other.

[hexed coral]

DD/EDD? Im new to the lingo 😂

[restive trout]

Same rules apply as the plain missions. Eggs trigger waves.

Deep Dive and Elite Deep Dive. DD and EDD for short.

I say just pick the class you are most comfortable with and hop into a lobby of dwarves that wont scoff at you. And have a go at it.

Learning by doing.

[hexed coral]

Ahh got ya 👍

[restive trout]

Remember doing the salute. Raises moral.

[hexed coral]

And hitting the dice on way out for 'luck' 😂 😂

[plush stump]

Be fast

Be efficient

Have plan to kill every bug

[restive trout]

Oh and make sure resupplies get used up efficient. Dont call one when you are about to leave and half the team is full.

I like to do the EDD first. And then the DD as a digestif.

[manic pivot]

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[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone!

[restive trout]

The clock says -30 seconds.

[sly kettle]

You need to restart the game.

[restive trout]

Blasted hellfire. Thanks.

Huh. Another hell.

[sonic anchor]

magma core edd

💀

[restive trout]

Aquarqs and Black Box with Mactera Plague.

[vague sun]

Can't wait for dreadnoughts to turn the terrain into Swiss lava

[quiet mortar]

Due to a CONFIRMED Morkite softlock on DD Stage 2, it is recommended to start with Dark Morkite!

DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Bedazzled Interest
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Critical Weakness Exploder Infestation
Stage 2: Protect the Drilldozer + 150 Morkite | No Mutators
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Parasites

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Dirty Hell
Stage 1: 7 Aquarq + 📡 1 Black Box | Mactera Plague
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + Dreadnought Twins | Parasites
Stage 3: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Swarmageddon

[vague sun]

Dirty Hell...

[dawn cosmos]

mactera plague

[waxen terrace]

PE + black box euughh

[signal pawn]

Magma Core, we have missed you

[quiet mortar]

Have we?

[signal pawn]

Haven't seen it since mid 2021

Maybe even earlier

[quiet mortar]

Has def been a while for the EDD

[hollow citrus]

fungus bogs eh, time for goo

[tulip idol]

1st edd stage looks nice

now let 3rd stage be pe too

2nd mb shield disruption escort

[restive trout]

Eggs Dreadnaght

And Parasites

EDD stage 2

[waxen terrace]

doable

just use aoe weapons

[restive trout]

Breach cutter goes nyom.

Its the twins!

[mellow pawn]

Congrats!

[waxen terrace]

stage 3 swarmageddon

3 mules + 2 eggs swarmageddon edd

[restive trout]

Spicy stage 2.

Mules, Eggs and Swarmageddon.

Stage 3 of the EDD.

[waxen terrace]

lol, saw a team on twitch wiped for speedrunning the egg

[midnight ivy]

anyone has some missing morkite on dd stage 2 ?

[rustic temple]

same

anyone missing 1 morkite in dd stage 2?

[midnight ivy]

us too were at 1 missing 😭

[rustic temple]

gg

rip

@midnight ivy does your hearthstone room have morkite?

[waxen terrace]

seems stage 2 dd is softlocked?

[supple quarry]

No DD stream today?

[rustic temple]

i dug all the oil shales

no morkite

[midnight ivy]

abort and dark morkite it

[waxen terrace]

oh boy

a DD where you actually need dark morkite

[vague sun]

Incredible

[rustic temple]

ffs...

[little timber]

is the bot taking much longer than usual this week?

or was it like this last week

[waxen terrace]

no, nobody hasnt reached stage 3 dd yet

bc stage 2 is softlocked at 149/150 morkite

[little timber]

oh wtf how long has it been out for?

[little timber]

ah lmao

can you get to 150 with dark morkite?

[waxen terrace]

probably need dark morkite ye

[little timber]

I suppose it might not have been in the rotation yet for everyone

what time did they reset? 2 hours ago?

[waxen terrace]

its in rotation alr, just stage 2 being softlocked

1hr ago

[little timber]

I know I Just mean with everyone having the same beer, no one has gotten it yet

thus it has not rotated thus far

[waxen terrace]

yea

[small pecan]

17h30 paris time the 14 of april = dark morkite
it's in 4h30

if you want to have dark morkite and avoid softlock, change your pc clock to that hour

[zealous granite]

Soft lock DD? How often does that happen, and is it fixable?

[waxen terrace]

you can change pc times for beer?

[small pecan]

never happened before

[small pecan]

yes

[restive trout]

Donezo! This EDD was really stressful.

[zealous granite]

Is this something a dev needs to fix?

[waxen terrace]

dark morkite check lmao

[little timber]

no

based making the deep dive a beer check and telling no one

I hope the next one has a fall thats only survivable with tunnel rat

[small pecan]

what must have happened is : the game generated the morkite and the ommoran destroyed it during generation

[zealous granite]

an entire week of soft lock DD is ultra pain

[rustic temple]

oh well

[waxen terrace]

so predrill mandatory

hmmm

[rustic temple]

f for dd stage 2

i'm aborting

[sly spade]

I'm speechless.

I go to this channel to check if others were at 149 morkite.

[midnight ivy]

go above 17h30 (gmt+1)

[rustic temple]

45mins wasted flying around the cave and asking bosco to mine oil shale

haha...

[sly spade]

And behold

[midnight ivy]

(for dark morkite)

[rustic temple]

at least 2 groups here encountered it (me included)

[small pecan]

4 encoutered it

[sly spade]

what a waste of time man

[rustic temple]

oh f

[sly spade]

i was hoping to do this deep dive before work

:/

[rustic temple]

well, at least the devs didn't run dd livestream today

haha

[restive trout]

Morkite Beer mandatory?

[sly spade]

yes

[rocky chasm]

My friends got this also

[small pecan]

so either wait 3h30 for the next dark morkite or change your pc clock

[sly spade]

so im guessing people have already spent a lot of time in the cave?

[small pecan]

45 min

[sly spade]

and 100% confirmed there is no secret pocket

that im just missing over and over?

[small pecan]

yes

[little timber]

oh the beer timers are consistent? TIL

[small pecan]

yes, that's how speedrunner do it

it help chose the beer for deep dive speedrun

[little timber]

backbreaker stout ofc

[zealous granite]

current working theory is that the heartstone spawn deleted some morkite

[rustic temple]

probably

[quiet mortar]

Damn, massive F

[rustic temple]

or oil shale spawn destroyed/replaced some morkite spawn

[zealous granite]

Im so glad i did my first DD yesterday, I would've been so pissed

[frozen fable]

is the regular DD possible?

[analog blaze]

What's going on with the DD/EDD? It's the same one as last week?

[waxen terrace]

yes, someone managed to clear stage 2 solo

[frozen fable]

were missing less than 1 morkite right now

[midnight ivy]

we all missed 1

[small pecan]

restart your game to refresh the DD

[quiet mortar]

Softlocked without Dark Morkite Buff

[waxen terrace]

4 eggs + dread (parasites) for DD stage 3

[gray bluff]

we are legit 0.2 morkite short of beating stage 2 dd

lmao

[waxen terrace]

idk if predrilling works for DD stg 2

[quiet mortar]

Do you know the Dread type?

[waxen terrace]

no

watching a streamer do the 3rd stage he just got in

[quiet mortar]

Gotcha

[analog blaze]

where's the developer stream of this DD 😛

So they can enjoy their 'handiwork'

[gray bluff]

this is beyond painful

legit aproximately 0.1 morkite short

[waxen terrace]

inb4 devs are hotfixing the dd

[analog blaze]

"Removed this weeks DD until patch day"

[quasi schooner]

did the deep dives reset this week?

[quiet mortar]

Yep

[quasi schooner]

they arent the same as last week?

[quiet mortar]

Nope

[quasi schooner]

yea right

could have sworn ive done the levels before

thanks

just lost connection on stage 3

[wary seal]

7 devs are online. Let's see what they have to say about 149/150 morkite on 2nd stage of DD this week..

[old widget]

Gotta be a hidden vein somewhere

[dusky terrace]

just feed it to the lootbug /s

[old widget]

Though I’ll admit fungus bogs isn’t the usual morkite hiding biome

[wary seal]

Probable deleted by heart stone. spent almost an hour on that DD stage. kinda disappointed

[waxen terrace]

@quiet mortarstage 3 dd dread is hiveguard

[old widget]

Lootbugs do multiply what they eat,,,not a horrible plan

[quaint ore]

bruh you telling me stage 2 DD is impossible without dark morkite?

[wary seal]

YES

[quaint ore]

[wary seal]

Any response from devs?

[waxen terrace]

its possible

someone on twitch cleared stage 2 dd without dark morkite

[brazen musk]

Any way to know when dark morkite is on rotation?

[quiet mortar]

Thank you so much

[small pecan]

in 3 hour, or 17h30 paris time

[brazen musk]

Cheers

[small pecan]

if you don't want to wait you can change your pc clock to it

[brazen musk]

It's fine I'll be playing during that

[old widget]

Wait…are beers predictable? Or did you just bump your clock forward to test?

I always thought they were complete RNG, albeit everyone using the same seed, so clock manipulation produces the same result for everyone but predicting that result ahead of time wasn’t possible

[small pecan]

bump forward to know

[stuck hamlet]

can bulks destroy out of existence a morkite vein?

we are dd stage 2 and miss 2 morkite, looked throu the entirety of the map multiple times

[reef bison]

Not out of existence no

Its just like using c4

But bigger

Probably just sent the morkite flying

[stuck hamlet]

fun

[reef bison]

Good luck

[stuck hamlet]

nah mate, spent 15 mins looking every nook and cranny

[reef bison]

Well as stated above there is a soft lock on morkite

So you might need dark morkite and might not

Looks like you needed it for your situation

[last storm]

no we did it without, you just gotta mine every scrap

[sly kettle]

I was missing 3 morkite

[quaint ore]

i explored the entire cave on stage 2, i was 3 morkite left and saw some morkite but it was poorly spawned in, not even giving 1 morkite

[sly kettle]

Had to abort.

Fucking sucks.

[quaint ore]

same bro

[frigid lodge]

1 Morkite

[rustic temple]

hmm

[quasi schooner]

just had it happen to me

134 morkite and none to be seen

[silver zealot]

yeah same

wait, are you a gunner in with Pixie, Cosmagus, etc?

[quasi schooner]

yup

[silver zealot]

lmao sup

[quasi schooner]

yo

still searching?

[silver zealot]

yeahp

the three of us are in VC together

[quasi schooner]

wanna do the edd instead?

[silver zealot]

no-one's found any

bruh I gotta get up in 4 hours to drive to the airport

[quasi schooner]

rough

[silver zealot]

eh I can go to sleep again afterwards

I was like 'oh yeah I'll just knock out this week's DD real quick

[quasi schooner]

haha

[idle quail]

yo it's me the engi

[cursive cedar]

what is meaning of softlock on DD stage 2?

[idle quail]

this is fucked

someone wake up the devs

[quasi schooner]

full dodgey

[cursive cedar]

oh...there is shortage of morkite vein in DD stage 2?

thats so fucked up

[quasi schooner]

fr

[frigid lodge]

wew

[jovial sail]

If you’ve only got like one left you might have to go back and get the little bits of other veins you might have missed