deep-dive-discussion

[placid crane]

if there was i didn't pay much attention

[jade palm]

There's 1 on Stage 3 of the Regular DD

[placid crane]

Oh

Maybe my friend and I just killed him and moved on

I don't remember deep dives often

[jade palm]

He escaped for me
accidentally shot it and he scampered up the ceiling

[placid crane]

We just get them done asap and move on to EDD and then suffer greatly

[jade palm]

Im just about to do my DD now
So guess I'll do my EDD alone.. again...

[slate tartan]

FIRST EDD!!!

FUCK YES

on the last stage we had to kite for like 30 mins between 2 different rooms

so tense

[tiny frost]

wtf is that hiveguard fight with haunted like wut

how do you even solo that

lmao

easily the worst hiveguard fight i've ever had XD

[slate tartan]

oh fuck no i didnt solo it

i had 2 friends of mine, it was our second dive

we couldn't beat last weeks

[tiny frost]

oh no i was just trying it

it was a fuckin nightmare lol

never doing that again lol

[slate tartan]

i cant even imagine soloing it

we ended up using the tunnel the horror made to kite between the dreadnaught spawn room and another large one, when someone died we cycled around

doing it solow would be.. insane!

[jade palm]

Which stage is it?

[slate tartan]

stage 3

[jade palm]

Ait-
im on 1 rn xd

Solo with Engie

Wish me luck

[slate tartan]

glll!

2 is hard as well!

but 3 is wacko

[jade palm]

Splendid

Luckily I brought RJ250

Fucking Escort Duty Mission.... Sigh

[slate tartan]

you got this

engi is really good at solo escort

[jade palm]

Yeah
I just hate Escort duty

[slate tartan]

loooooool

[jade palm]

Im happy just doing 2, not gonna bother with 3 even

[slate tartan]

Damn it's really fun if u get it tho

I recommend getting a scout friend

[solemn lake]

Any tips for this week's dd before it's over?

[keen viper]

i havent done a single DD yet and im lv25 xD

[solemn lake]

Rank ya mean?

[hoary grove]

stage 3 EDD is nuts

bring your best dwarves

[green crown]

second stage dd was frustrating. 2 bad dread caves. we should have faught them in spawn room but we are dumb

[solemn lake]

Yeah fighting dreads is generally better in an arena where you are sure to not stumble and fall

Which is most often the spawn

[wintry shale]

Pretty sure there is a hoarder stage 1 of EDD too. First narrow hallway after spawn I think

[azure dune]

I just found out 2 days ago that the Unknown Horror responds to status effects. Electricity slows it down significantly as well as neurotoxin

[severe owl]

how many refuels on this weeks EDD

[azure dune]

1

[severe owl]

ight

[spice tree]

doing my first dive rn and I decided to do it solo and it's been pretty easy so far, I sincerely hope I do not have to eat those words

[devout jolt]

Wait for stage 3

[spice tree]

if I wait stage 3 doesn't happen tho iirc I have to actually try to complete the other 2

[devout jolt]

True

[spice tree]

ammo is replenished between stages btw right

[vale lintel]

refuels can't go above one, max length escort can't be on DDs. Ammo of support tools is replenished between stages, due to a glitch - satchels, shields, turrets, flares

[spice tree]

oh so I need to collect nitra continuously got it

[vale lintel]

having a nitra buffer from previous stages does substantially decrease difficulty of later ones but it's not everything

[spice tree]

well darn there's elimination, I don't think I can do this

guess I need to actually find real people to play with

I can't join one help

[twin temple]

hey, i just did a deep dive and it said the first level of it gave a blank matrix core but i dont see it on my currency bar

like, next to my credits. Isnt that where it's supposed to be?

[hoary cove]

are u looking at it in mission or in the space rig?

[west merlin]

Oh dear like you see other games in the deep dive screen but can't click join game?

[old widget]

Yes, in the space rig you should see your number of blank cores in the upper right corner, to the left of your currency

[spice tree]

yeah they're all greyed out, as it turns out you can't join mid game

[violet oasis]

oof. I got rocked in last stage of EDD. Ghost was right on top of us when we stepped out of the pod and then we got a swarm while I was out of ammo and the only one up. I tried to find driller to get him up but he was out of my reach. I got knocked down just when my shield was ready but before I could throw it down. Large oof.

[west merlin]

Oh yeah sad.
I'd say host one yourself and you should get people in a couple minutes. I'd offer to join if I wasn't at work.

[violet oasis]

I'll take another stab at that EDD later.

[spice tree]

I did, went decently well, all cores were for driller, I'm very upset

[west merlin]

Oh sad.
Yeah you'll get a lot of cores you don't want at the time I'm afraid

[violet oasis]

at least I have 25 blank cores so I will be prepared for the new weapons when they drop. Assuming I can find events to use them with

[bleak hound]

w33d

[manic pivot]

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[reef bison]

This weeks EDD is a write off. 2nd stage way too op

[scenic finch]

Go home mission control, you’re drunk.

[violet warren]

I had more trouble with the third stage than the second stage

[slate tartan]

^ stage 2 is hard but 3 is crazy

[violet oasis]

next time I go at it I gotta tell the team to move forward until we find a clearing and not get pinched by the ghost and the first swarm in those tunnels... x_X

I don't know if the ghost ALWAYS stares at you when the pod door opens but it did for us

The thing was on the ramp when we were getting out and knocked 2 of us down with 1 shot.

[vale lintel]

thank you Mission Control but I did not ask for the secrets of the universe I am busy mining

[violet oasis]

beer, bros, blasting bugs. Everything we need.

[random rampart]

Are you telling us you prefer mining instead of smoking coob?

[vale lintel]

the cube has melted and is smoking still, not my problem

I'm trying to disconnect Hoxxes IV from its source terrain so the whole planet undergoes a terrain collapse

that'd be funny I think

[random rampart]

Mining the big heartstone, I see

[acoustic spindle]

Anybody looking to do the deep dives?

[calm jetty]

for all those looking to solo the edd, beware the last stage

its intense af solo

[acoustic spindle]

Haven’t touched the elite yet

[calm jetty]

beware the last stage

[acoustic spindle]

Noted

[raven grove]

Man, I picked the wrong week to come back and play again. Would be happier if haunted was straight-up removed from the game.

[placid crane]

i think every escort duty in deep dives are 1 refuel

i could be wrong

[tiny frost]

welp. soloed this week's edd.

it wasn't worth it

i got a terribad beard for my gunner for it... more than 45 minutes... fighting hiveguard and the ghost... I had to prepare the cave, clearing the whole thing BEFORE triggering the fight.

had resupply checkpoints setup throughout the cave.

never again

[slate tartan]

im impressed!

what class did u play?

[solar basalt]

I think I'll wait for next week

Always another chance to get hyper propellant:(

[slate tartan]

its only the last stage thats really hard

2 is hard but doable, if u wanna get the blank and weapon cores its doable

[left sleet]

is this week's edd bad?

I haven't tried it yet

I've been pretty lucky in the last week and have been getting some good OCs

[slate tartan]

stage 3 is really hard

especially if ur soling

but doable

[left sleet]

I pretty much never solo

doesn't seem fun for me

how is it on 3-4p?

still really hard?

[slate tartan]

i found it hard, it was tense!

but we first tried it

[left sleet]

morkite + hiveguard, haunted

what's so bad-- long cave?

[slate tartan]

yeah, a big problem is there isnt really a good spot to fight the dread and haunted

so u gotta get creative

[left sleet]

not even spawn?

or is it far?

[slate tartan]

idk actually, we never went back into spawn

what we did was kite between 2 long tunnels between 2 rooms

but maybe spawn works!

oh also bring waveclear for the stages

[left sleet]

spawn's usually my go-to for dreadnoughts

[slate tartan]

nice!

[left sleet]

if you have a scout with m1k, I think dreads are easier

[slate tartan]

really? i like the plasma gun over m1k, altho im trying it a bit more of late

but the way we won was using a fuck tone of resuplies

like 5 or 6 on the last stage

[left sleet]

nice

I always like having 400 nitra on the 3rd stage

because who wants to slog through stage 2 just to get rekt on stage 3

[slate tartan]

yeah thats based

[left sleet]

I have trouble using plasma on dread, but maybe I have the wrong OC

the dread moving around makes it hard to hit the 3 weak spot points before he opens up

[shut sierra]

particle accelerator on the carbine is pretty good

Almost gives you double damage

[left sleet]

Don't have that yet. I was testing TEF recently and it is quite a pain to maintain the dmg compared to impact deflection :[

[tiny frost]

I played gunner

[slate tartan]

nice

[lunar helm]

our team wiped on stage 3

The generation is bad, there's not much room to fight in

we got stuck in a bad spot and the ghost opened the hiveguard and there was a grunt swarm all at the same time

Not much we could do

[old widget]

For stage 3 of EDD, fight in the bottom treasure room. A ton of space and driller can easily create some loops for kiting / escape with the existing terrain

(Definitely don’t fight in that abomination that is the egg room)

[plush lark]

I have a question and hope that any mod can answer to this. When this season ends (should be season 1, I play on ps4), season 2 is gonna start, and with season 2 coming, last secondary weapons are gone be out there. The actual question is: if we say the license for the new secondary weapons require you to be level 25 (since you have the 2nd primary at 10, 2nd secondary at 15, and 20 the last primary, I assumed that at 25 we're getting the last secondary) but I'm level 17 but already promoted at least once.... Would I have to wait until level 25 as well? Or will I instantly get the license to do as soon as I will open the game after the update, cause technically even the first promotion gets you past level 25. Let me know pls.

[old widget]

Mods aren’t devs, any answer would be speculation. (Also probably a better question for #drg-chat)

(But based on season 1 behavior for the new primaries, you can likely start a class’s weapon unlock assignment missions right away if you’ve already promo’d that dwarf - you’ll still have to do the multi-mission assignment though)

[hoary cove]

TEF isn’t too good for dreads

[left sleet]

Yeah I know since fire is not good on dreads

Was just sad that it wasn't great in general, really

Hope to try something new soon. Rewiring was neat to try but I was terrible with it

[hardy nacelle]

that was a fun first section

doing EDD right now, dread got popped mid-wave in the tiny closet it spawned in

shit was going south so I just fully committed to carving out a better arena with my drills

and it worked out

[hardy nacelle]

damn that stage 3 cavegen fucking sucks

[old widget]

the middle chamber is just complete garbage, I think there's probably enough morkite in the rest of the map to pop the dread egg and skip that chamber

[fiery thorn]

So I haven't promoted any of my Dwarves yet cause it takes a long while tbh but I decided to look up deep dives and stuff to see what I'm gonna get myself into soon

And I must say

🗿

Shit's wack

Are Deep Dive essentially late game weekly events that you do to get matrix cores?

[old widget]

yes

[hardy nacelle]

yes

[winter oak]

Im thinking about doing my first deep dive solo, but i have no idea what to prepare for. I saw the pinned comment, but i have no idea how to build my loadouts.

I was thinking about going scout but after seeing that theres a dreadnaut I'm having second thoughts.

[random rampart]

If you're comfortable with hazard 3, you should have pretty much no problems. Take a load out you think it's nice, and venture the darkness

Part of playing drg is the fun it gives

[winter oak]

Im going Scout with m1 and boomstick. Wish me luck.

Just learned you dont keep steeve in between deep dive stages. Literally unplayable.

[hardy nacelle]

DD is a cakewalk

[violet oasis]

damn. ghost tagged me from a million miles away. I guess when you aren't host you are really fucked if you try to dash by

and we waltzed right on through first 2 stages. I really thought we had that.

[plush lark]

I meant developers ups

[plush lark]

Ty, you confirmed my theory

[winter oak]

Wow. That was easy, even despite the dreadnauts!

That hivegaurd thought. Yeesh...

[fiery thorn]

Elite Deep dives literally go higher than the max hazard level lmao

The last state is Hazard 5.5

[carmine loom]

Idk if anyone else had this but whenever I would get to the 3rd stage of the EDD me and my teammates would lag horribly no matter who I played with (I was never the host)

[pseudo knoll]

can anyone explain where the fuck is the morkite on stage 1 on normal deep dive, I found 116 and I couldnt find anymore

anywhere

jesus christ

[old widget]

Azure Weald morkite is the worst. I think there’s a couple of veins in one of the chambers that are wrapped around the backside of a column

[pseudo knoll]

jesus

[old widget]

Just did it but took a while and stage 1 and 3 are blended together in my head

(And scout was doing most of it)

[fiery thorn]

Azure Weald Morkite is Hell.

[pseudo knoll]

thankfully its not only me then

I feel blind as a bat

[old widget]

I mean…we didn’t have any trouble TBH but it’s still annoying

[feral pilot]

Morkite just blends in so easily with the wall

[old widget]

My advice is don’t use flares

Since morkite will glimmer in the dark

[fiery thorn]

Isn't that the exact opposite of what you should do

[old widget]

I know, it seems weird

But when lit up it looks more similar to the walls sometimes. If you’re stuck it can help with contrast

[fiery thorn]

Ah okay

Azure Weald is such a dark biome

[feral pilot]

Dark morkite beer may help if available

[fiery thorn]

Can barely see anything even with flares

Honestly I recommend getting daily special no matter what it is for a deep dive

Considering it carries throughout all 3 stages

Except maybe pots of gold

Just don't even go after gold in deep dives

Payout is enough and you're after the matrix cores anyways

But yeah the two ores that absolutely suck to get is Morkite in Azure Weald and Nitra in Salt Pits

[old widget]

Also fossils in AW, though thankfully that doesn’t show up in DD

[fiery thorn]

Fossils isn't nearly as bad as Morkite and Nitra

Cause you can just skip it

Morkite is a necessity to complete the mission and Nitra is not absolutely necessary but pretty damn important

[old widget]

fair, though leaving secondaries behind hurts my greedy dwarf brain

[fiery thorn]

Point Extraction I almost always ignore secondaries lmao

Main objective is get the Hell out of there.

[signal pawn]

🔴 Hazard 6 x2 Enemies EDD
Masala's viewpoint: https://youtu.be/wKz2C0r0HWM
Rodders' viewpoint: https://youtu.be/ILxvkokEBU0
Oqwert's viewpoint: https://youtu.be/kNBzq2DIIL8
Who's viewpoint: https://youtu.be/v9InZBHlNpA

[dire loom]

Does the deep dives on reddit not get updated anymore? Just came back after a break and it's still from beginning of February

[tulip idol]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/tavcal/weekly_deep_dives_thread_10th_march_2022/

it's pinned

[dire loom]

Ok my bad 😅

Thank you

It wasn't popping up on my phone when I kept reloading it

[proven sable]

quick question but what is the rank level based on, is it on missions, level, or something else?

[plush lark]

Definitely. But you know wtf is even worse? The final "I wanna wash my eyes with gasoline" thing? Azure Weald + Morkite + Boolo Caps (+ eventual Swarmageddon or Haunted Cave or Leech Clusters).

You can't find Morkite and boolos cause they be playing freakin hide n seek

And that map is all purple/pink and dark

[fiery thorn]

If I saw a deep dive like that I wouldn't even say it's worth it

Keep your damn matrix cores

[jade tusk]

It's based on your level up on dwarfs. Your Blue rank goes up every time a dwarf levels up 3 times

[halcyon zealot]

Regen elite nada yeah that seems okay

[high edge]

This week's DD is kinda bs

The morkite mission to start is seriously tight

There's only two fuckin chambers and they BARELY had enough

[north stump]

I’m looking for a crew to run the EDD. Is this the correct channel

[vague mountain]

I just did the EDD. The first two stages were nothing. The third stage, though...
Haunted Cave, confined spaces, linear cave, and a HIVEGUARD?! No thank you.

[slender saffron]

feels super rewarding once you finish it

[vague mountain]

I just feel relieved. My total time was 1:04:21, and I feel like about 60% of that was the final stage.

[slender saffron]

lucky me I did it with only one other person

clutched that edd so hard 🤘

[vague mountain]

Took me forever to kill the hiveguard. Fortunately I had tons of nitra from the previous two stages

If I'd been playing CRSPR Driller, I could have at least slowed the ghost. As it was, I had to play it fast and loose.
There was one pit that had only one exit, and it was full of morkite. Of course, I only barely managed to make it out of there, having taken one attack from the ghost.

Fitting that this was salt pits, because I think stage 3 of that EDD was THE Salt Pit.

[random rampart]

The right channel is your platform's lfg channel

[jaunty garnet]

i neede a 4th for a pacifist run

[slate tartan]

wait thats a thing? O_O

how do they work?

[subtle quest]

You don't kill things

[frank geyser]

anyone looking for a deep dive gunner

im wildly mediocre

[slate knot]

expert final mission

hell

we got hiveguard, a swarm, and the ghost was behind us all at once

we already used our IW and insta revives

at least we died honorable deaths

[shut oracle]

ghost popped dread midswarm and blocked way up

was over pretty fast

[random rampart]

Check your platform's lfg channel

[spring sandal]

I'm not even going to bother with the last stage, especially since it's just for a cosmetic

first two weren't bad though

still glad I got two stages this week, only managed one last time

[shut oracle]

did it 3 times this week and failed twice at 3rd stage and once on 2nd so im done for this week 😂

[sinful oyster]

What tool gets refilled between stages again? Down dpad?

[wraith shard]

active perks?

like iron will refreshes

[stiff aurora]

what do you mean with Down Dpad? @sinful oyster

i know its the arrows

but why did you say Down Dpad

[burnt sandal]

Turrets and C4
Not sure about shields or flare gun

keep in mind it's a bug too and will end up fixed one day

[fathom tulip]

How bad is the elite deep dive in terms of terrain

[shut oracle]

stage 3 terrain is ass

try to get to a bigger place as soon as u can once at dread, as the ghost most likely pops it mid swarm

and u dont want to be in that room

[sinful oyster]

On Xbox its called a dpad. So you know the down arrow is down. Donw dpad up dapad. Isn't that the normal term?

[oak horizon]

I mean tool would have been sufficient I guess doesn't matter where it's assigned lol

[sinful oyster]

Yeah but there's support tool and movement tool isn't there?

I thought it was consistent with the button press

[old widget]

Yes, all support ammo gets refilled. Turrets, C4, shields, flares. And as Pounce said it’s probably a bug (though one they didn’t fix when they fixed other ammo reset bugs in S1)

And yes, on controller (PC, Xbox, PS) that’s down on dpad by default

[wraith shard]

🤏 caves. End cave seemed like the best option for hive + unknown horror

[fathom tulip]

Okay

Thank you :D

[sinful oyster]

Hmm kinda like it like that not gonna lie. They could maybe keep it for the DD so the green ears have a little safety net

[oak horizon]

Imagine sending a massive ass pod with nothing in it anyway shakes fist at management would like 1/4 refill on everything but thats me 🙃

[scenic finch]

I always die on stage 3

Hive and ghost bulk just merge together.

[jade tusk]

I gave on EDD Stage 3. Not worth a cosmetic core

[brisk basin]

Anything thats not an unstable core would have been not worth it

[digital chasm]

anyone else have a glitch where the hiveguard just refuses to spawn the sentinels?

its not even attacking me

ah, it decided to kill me now

[red cairn]

Are there any professional gamers here?

I mean, game developers?

[jagged trail]

let's fucking go

and no, real game devs are being crunched rn, and getting paid about half what they deserve

on average

[ashen veldt]

PSA: Status effects work on the ghost-det. My team used PCF (T4A on the drak) and IFGs to keep it from getting to us. At any given time me or the other scout were on "ghost duty", which involved trying to bait the thing away from the group and electrocuting it.

Neurotoxin works too (to a lesser extent). NT Payload never disappoints.

[old widget]

Also a tip, the ghost has a max aggro range. If you have a slippery scout who ends up with aggro, and everyone else bails and heads down deeper into the caves, the ghost won’t change aggro and the scout can keep it busy as long as he can stay alive

(A bit of a cheese tho)

[hoary cove]

also the ghost doesn’t attack unless the person it’s chasing is by them. So in my experience you can get pretty dam close with little consequence as long as it’s not after u

[violet warren]

Neuro-lasso doesn't work on the unknown horror though

Because you can't lock on to it

[slate tartan]

we actually tried this method for a haz 5 ghost mission. it would work well for the deep dive if the rest of the squad can deal with the dread

[stuck tapir]

Scout/engi combo worked great 👍 actually wasn't as hairy as I thought it would be in that 3rd stage dreadnought area. Distraction grenades worked great for hive guard minions.

Would be interesting to have something to slow down the ghost but we didn't end up needing it. He slammed me a few times because I tried to keep aggro on him. I've noticed I could get way closer to him sometimes but I guess that was because he was aggro on my friend.

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[torpid galleon]

goddamn, thats a

my team spent around 20 mins just running around while scout somehow found 160 nitra

cause we were all dry as bone by the end

not worth a cosmetic core

[lucid prairie]

hello everyone, i'm new here, i heard there are some weekly or daily quest can be show when someone join the discord ,but i can't find them now, could someone tell what can i do?

[slate tartan]

this must be some code in here right O_O

[slate tartan]

probably ask that question in the interplanetary miners chat, this chat is to talk about deep dives

also idk lol

[burnt sandal]

he won't have access to it without the role

[burnt sandal]

• Online on both Steam and Discord (make sure you're not invisible)
• Make sure the discord server isn't muted (thx to Chindian for this one !)
• You can try using the browser instead of the app (or the other way around)
• You can also try having steam and discord running on administrator mode (thx to Marcos for this one !)
• keep in mind : the bot is half-broken, so it's only working when it wants to

[manic pivot]

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[grim flower]

lets pray to Karl for no low 0² deep dives

[bronze verge]

Every mission is 4 eggs and 2 mules

[stuck tapir]

Every mission is aquarqs with low gravity. Karl be praised!!!

[lunar helm]

every mission is elite enemies drilldozer

in magma core

or maybe lethal enemies or mactera plague would be worse

[digital chasm]

every mission is low o2 refinery with really weird cave gen

[slate tartan]

has anyone tried like decoding mission controls thing

like the message must have some meaning

[summer wigeon]

Nope, just a big error

[soft token]

what thing

[slate tartan]

this

like O_O

i do a bit of coding myself, if it was an error surely they would of fixed it right?

also the string=ERROR repeated is weird

[odd comet]

It's the Rival company, they're hacking our bots!

[tiny coyote]

if i were to do the EDD now and complete it after the weekly deep dives reset, would i be able to do the other EDD?

[odd comet]

Yes

Might have to reset your game first though

[tiny coyote]

alright cheers

[manic pivot]

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[topaz plank]

Get ready boys!

[sacred rover]

15 minutes

[wraith shard]

👀

[manic pivot]

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[sacred rover]

lots of errors there

[sly kettle]

Mission Control in a nutshell.

[tacit grail]

uh

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Carnal Void
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) + 150 Morkite | Rich Atmosphere Exploder Infestation
Stage 2: 250 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Low Oxygen
Stage 3: 2 M.U.L.E.s + Dreadnought Twins | No Mutators

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Burning Strike
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + 150 Morkite | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 2: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 Eggs | No Mutators
Stage 3: 10 Aquarq + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies

[waxen terrace]

NTP time for edd 1

[marble veldt]

Just kill them before they regen 4head

[waxen terrace]

oh god eggs and dotty again

[reef bison]

Lmfao they really had to repeat EDD stage 2 again didnt they

Last week was pure fucking anxiety on that stage

[shut oracle]

at least no low o2

[shut oracle]

predig the eggs and its usual haz5 escort

[reef bison]

The low o2 doesn't really matter considering Doretta has canisters on her

[ebon anchor]

Will dotty pop eggs this time or no

[shut oracle]

only for the poor scout running back to get nitra

[shut oracle]

let driller get eggs before u start her

[ebon anchor]

If dotty doesn't pop the eggs looks like sleeper edd... shud be ok

[shut oracle]

or if u play it solo on non driller hope for digging beer 😂

[reef bison]

Man that sounds awful

I'm sorry that happened to you

[ebon anchor]

It happened to everyone that edd

Well almost everyone, some runs the eggs didn't pop

It was that lethal enemies 2 eggs escort edd

Couple weeks or months ago I forgot

[jade tusk]

I remember that EDD. Also it had very stingy on Nitra with stage 1 barely having enough Nitra for 2 drops to handle the Classic Dread and the twins. Yep the drill dozer is gonna pop those eggs no matter what so you have to pre-drill to get them or get ass fucked with a double swarm

I hope your team knows how to kill the classic dread and twins with only 1 resupply pod!

[ebon anchor]

Nitra starvation is one of the hardest secret mutator haha

I mean it doesn't exist as a mutator but it changes the difficulty quite a bit especially if you are 4 player team instead of duo

[stuck tapir]

I feel like duos is the best for EDDs. Scout engi is a killer combo

This weeks doesn't seem too bad at all.

Damn there's been a lot of dreadnoughts for deep dives haha

[ebon anchor]

Seems like it's always dreadnoughts or low oxy

[sonic anchor]

5.5 haz lethal enemies

they doomed us

[wraith shard]

This weeks EDD looks super tame tbh

[reef bison]

Lmfao doing 3rd stage of deep dive and the bug has glitched

Immorral

Immortal

Hate this fukin game sometimes

[wraith shard]

Mutators aren't too annoying and no dreads 🤌

[sonic anchor]

besides the last one

obviously

[wraith shard]

One of the twins after you killed the first one?

Bc there's one known bug where he stays invincible after killing the other one. But usually he burrows after a while and when he comes back up you can shoot him again

[wraith shard]

But it's aquarq mission. If you have a good team you won't stay down there for long. If there's plenty of nitra again on stage 2 (cause Escort usually has), I wouldn't bother with nitra and just speedrun objectives and go out in 10 minutes

[sonic anchor]

yeah exactly

edd doesnt seem so horrible as i initially thought

though

im waiting for some refinery themed edd

refinery = best mission no cap

[wraith shard]

Lots of lootbugs to kill, yeah

[sonic anchor]

male grindset

the duty of every driller player is to c4 every scout

[wraith shard]

💥

[sonic anchor]

[gusty grotto]

this EDD had legit no nitra on stage 1 and 2

my team ended up doing the entire drill dozer fight without any ammo and no resupplies

[wraith shard]

that would be unusual

[gusty grotto]

3rd stage had a crap ton of nitra but we died right at the very end

[sonic anchor]

damn

worst thing that can happen

[gusty grotto]

because of awful game mechanics

[balmy knoll]

there is so much goo on stage 3

[gusty grotto]

had a teammate go down and a bunch of glyphids were swarming him

i go for the res, and all a sudden all of them switch their AI onto me and I die immediately

[waxen terrace]

3rd stage needs kiting

[stuck tapir]

Hey guys, does anyone know if enemies scale the same with 3/4 dwarves?

[jade tusk]

It really is the hardest mutator. Even higher then usual Mactera and Exploders spawns without their modifier is more tame then being forever low on Nitra

[stuck tapir]

Just checked the wiki. Thought 1 and 2 were same

[jade tusk]

There's miner scaling between 1 and 2 players. Mostly due to the fact you replace best boi Bosco for a living breathing (And likely drunk) dwarf

[stuck tapir]

Yea, makes sense. Just seems like waaay more chaos from 2 to 4 dwarves

Was curious on the difference between 3 and 4. I've only ever ran 2 or 4 dwarves

[wraith shard]

Do you mean enemy count scaling?

[stuck tapir]

Yea just overall enemy spawns or health etc

[wraith shard]

Afaik everything higher than Haz 3 is the same between 1 and 2 players. Only on lower Hazards there's a slight increase

[old widget]

I find 4 dwarves easier than 3 for EDD, mainly because you go from 2 swarm clearing dwarves to 3 (assuming one of each class, and that scout is always there)

also if two dwarves go down you still have two up

[stuck tapir]

I'll have to give 3 a shot yet to see what its like

I've been pretty comfortable in duos

[old widget]

yeah with duo the enemy scaling takes care of things mostly

[burnt sandal]

you can find every single detail about scaling on the wiki if you're interested

[stuck tapir]

Especially with that juicy scout/engi combo

Yea I just checked the wiki out of curiosity.

[wraith shard]

Haz 5 enemy count scaling is
1 player: 0.85
2 players: 0.85
3 players: 1.25
4 players: 1.50
According to wiki.
I agree that 4 people feels easier than 3. And 2 is really easy mode

Whenever we did 3 players group runs on EDDs we basically ended up with the same enemies killed as several 4 man groups, just with one dwarf and firepower less

[stuck tapir]

Damn, so makes it more difficult. Was afraid of that haha I'm still curious and will test it out this week. 10 eggs should be interesting 😋 at least no dreads or low o2!

[wraith shard]

Also depends on your teammates and the week though. So testing it would be best with the same team +/- 1 person during the same week

[stuck tapir]

Fair enough

Every time I've done 4 we just get our bootys slapped the whole time 😅🤣

[wraith shard]

Do you usually run pub EDDs?

[stuck tapir]

No. Well when I first started yea. Now I try to run with same squad.

Could just be we were more inexperienced back then, one of them was a freshly promoted driller haha

[wraith shard]

Yeah, it's nice having a regular group for this stuff.

Don't tell me, I tried EDD twice when I was still fairly fresh and failed miserably. Made me avoid them entirely for months after lol

When I tried again way later they suddenly were okay

[stuck tapir]

Yea I remember our first attempt 😅🤣 we got thru stage 1 with no resupply and was brimming with confidence...then drilldozer started...we didn't last long 😂

Like trying weekly tho. This weeks doesn't seem bad at all. Hopefully i don't eat those words haha don't like the egg swarms

[wraith shard]

At least you made it through stage 1. I'll never forget mine. Glacial strata, elite enemies.
We lasted 7 minutes until everyone wiped

[stuck tapir]

Hahaha!! Yea it was a wake up call for sure

I was happy to get the blank core at that point

[wraith shard]

The most valuable thing lol
Anyway, can't wait to run this weeks dives. Good luck to you and make Karl proud

[steep cloud]

this EDD seems really hard

[stuck tapir]

Rock and stone brother

[steep cloud]

was so proud when we barely survived stage 2, everyone dry on ammo

figured we'd get nitra quick start of stage 3

as soon as I saw "point extraction" I realized we were doomed

[stuck tapir]

Aren't those typically fastest missions? I always jump for joy when I see them 🤣

[steep cloud]

unlike all other mission types, point extraction starts with a short swarm

none of us had any nitra or any bullets

[stuck tapir]

That double aquarq EDD a few weeks ago? 😍

[steep cloud]

so we wiped basically immediately

I think it was recoverable if the 3rd stage had been anything else

I can't tell if the first two stages were low on Nitra, or if we just missed a lot

[stuck tapir]

Ahh that's no good, yea I've seen a few ppl say there's not much nitra

[urban hamlet]

I might just try the EDD simply cuz it doesnt have low O2

[slate ridge]

what’s the secondary for stage 3?

[slate ridge]

i find low O2 fun, as annoying as it is

really depends on the mission type though

[urban hamlet]

Morkite and eggs....I dunno

[slate ridge]

love it on on-site refining

[urban hamlet]

I dont cuz I gotta play checkpoints with resupplies on the way to the pumps

Why cant the pumpjacks emit oxygen as well

[slate ridge]

that should be changed yeah

i always wonder it

[steep cloud]

eggs

Which is also bad

But we wiped before it was an issue

Oh and it's also lethal enemies

[stuck tapir]

This

[urban hamlet]

[slate ridge]

ah, so a swarm every five seconds

[keen viper]

can u win deep dive without weapon mods?

[valid phoenix]

sure
its about you being able to make it through haz 3 consistently enough, not the weapon modifications

also if pickaxe only deep dive runs exist, why shouldn't no mods ones

[urban hamlet]

You can win DDs with an axe
Karl did

[keen viper]

i cant tell if its real or not xD

[keen viper]

but Karl never came back xD

[urban hamlet]

No one said he failed that EDD

[hardy nacelle]

he went on a deep dive and just kept going

[south geode]

What is the edd this week?

[urban hamlet]

Check pinned

[ebon anchor]

just finished EDD

last stage stole all the nitra lmao

[analog blaze]

last stage if you survive the first 5 mins you're in the clear

horrible start area and bugs EVERYWHERE at once, plus goo floors

[ebon anchor]

had a good gunner who immediately set up zips to minehead

and popped shield once out of droppod

[analog blaze]

Yeah you need the minehead zipline asap

So you have at least gun support

though with all the macteras you're unlikely to reach the end of the zipline before falling down

[chrome forge]

Nice pfp

[analog blaze]

Steve's a killer in phase 3 EDD btw

lethal applies

[urban hamlet]

This is the Way

[jade tusk]

This is the way

[cursive cedar]

is EDD this week bug spawn rate passively increased?

it never stop spawn bugs and we never have enough ammo

[jade tusk]

If you're on stage 3 of the EDD that's your hint you're going too slow and speed it up. Else you need pop eggs one at a time and not attempt to run dotty and grab eggs at the same time

[hallow ice]

yeah i feel you

[cursive cedar]

no...it spawn every 5 sec

like during extraction

and not yet extraction

[burnt sandal]

that's because you're on point extraction

the longer you stay, the harder it becomes

[cursive cedar]

we just arrive at stage 3

fail at min 35

because too much bugs

[waxen terrace]

fuckin pub edds running out of ammo on every doretta phase wtf

i swear my edd runs are fucking cursed

[cursive cedar]

nah...this week edd is curse

[tulip idol]

I feel like in this chat there's always a curse for some people every week lol

[waxen terrace]

my pubs are stupid

one guy didnt bother telling that there is a leech above them

and our gunner fucking dc-ed halfway into drilling

and the other in stage 3 we had 20s left for the drop pod and everyone died

i fucking hate my regional timezone at times

[tulip idol]

some guys even look terrain scanner for leeches lol

and some... just go and be baiting

[waxen terrace]

that 20s drop pod fail i should have c4'd so i can get some stuns in

and our gunner was using ntp without fear

[tulip idol]

Whenever I'm low I just burrow in the ground

nothing can catch me there

[waxen terrace]

this week's edd is not good for cryocannon ngl

[tulip idol]

I was thinking exactly cryo lol

[waxen terrace]

i had better results with the sludgepump in killing trash mobs

a decent gunner with hurricane or scout can deal with macterras

[tulip idol]

can't regenerate while frozen, can't damage dotty while frozen, can't do lethal damage while frozen, can't go close cause of radiance

[waxen terrace]

they were regenerating while frozen

[tulip idol]

anyways they are being killed one by one quickly

I'd go my fav defensive build on gunner but regenerative half-counters that

And I can't really go minelayer every week lol

that weapon is carrying any edd as it is rn and I even have fun with it smh

sludge is the worst against lethal enemies

but I'd take it for separate escort mission

if you're not sure in your random crew go dmg builds on driller, not cryo or sludge slow

[woeful quarry]

Wow bosco picked an almost vertical path to the dropship in the low oxygen dd2. Had to buy 2 supply drops to survive while i mined a path lmao

So glad i didnt play gunner for once

[tulip idol]

Gunner is fine, I just speedclimb 4 life

Gunner engi and driller are kinda equal in mobility

[ebon anchor]

we did stage 2 EDD as normal

then popped both eggs at once and dipped

lul

[tulip idol]

just bunker if it's too much

driller is rotation char that can reroute the bugs any time

[ebon anchor]

there wasn't much ammo so we didn't spend time with the eggs

we just popped and left

It was a good team, escort done with 3 parts alive too

[tulip idol]

I mean if it's last eggs ofc there is no reason to fight

some dwarves may just not survive trip to drop pod through swarm

[ebon anchor]

ye probably wouldn't recommend doing that if we had less experience people

[digital chasm]

the eggs should show up on the map

strange

[tulip idol]

looked on stream - one at the top and one is in the cave under minehead

[scenic finch]

Goody drilldozer

[winter oak]

3 dreadnauts on a deep dive? No thanks.

If you count the twins as one each, 5

[stuck tapir]

Twins are ezpz tho

[ripe shard]

Escort duties with no warnings? That’s hot 🥵

This week’s deep dive looks pretty chill from the script

[waxen terrace]

8th failed edd

[winter oak]

Thats the thing though: i mostly play solo...

[jolly hazel]

this week looks fine

[ripe shard]

I’ve solo’d a couple EDD. Just set black to 4 lives + iron will which will basically give you 5 chances lol

Bosco** not black lmao

[winter oak]

I mean, dark future bosco

[ripe shard]

Autocorrect really trying to get me cancelled lol

[spring oar]

gotta love it when someone kicks you at the last 5m of a deep dive

[waxen terrace]

finally done with stage 3

ok crspr and ntp fear is great

[hoary cove]

twins are the only dreadnaught that can be hard to dodge

[waxen terrace]

twins are annoying to keep track of unless you have them both constantly pinged

[scenic finch]

Funny two bulk detonators on stage 3

Funni haha funni

[west merlin]

Twins count as one.
Heck in solo they're definitely the best kind, provided you run armor shredding

[west merlin]

Of the EDD? Oof

Looking at the mission types it seems the rest of it should be fairly OK

But Lethal Enemies on haz 5.5 sounds "fun"

[waxen terrace]

im surprised no bulk spawned on my last run at stage 3 until the very end

before that had at least 1 bulk early on or halfway through the mission

but i guess its cause the AI spawned oppressors instead of bulks

[tulip idol]

I mean I've read I just don't know how it looks like

mb mods issue?

the fact that you got that 2 times in a row and I got 0 times in thousands of hours...

feels weird

I remember someone was talking about missing eggs a long time ago but I don't remember exactly if I was participating in at least one such case

if egg fell into the void then it would've been teleported back on the surface

it should be the closest point somewhere at the bottom

and egg is always visible on scanner no matter what

@tulip moth found smth similar btw in case you used Bosco to mine the eggs https://ghostshipgames.atlassian.net/browse/DRG-5052

[old widget]

EDD stage 3 was definitely a bit spicy. Not much room for mistakes or you’re down. I’d recommend pulling eggs early, unlike our run where we had to schlep the lower egg up to the minehead as our last act before calling the drop pod

Overall though the cave was easy to fight in, lots of space (once engi plats over all the goo)

[lost zephyr]

What is the deep dive this week?

[random rampart]

Most recent pinned message

[lost zephyr]

Thanks!

[burnt sandal]

There's a known bug atm with Bosco yoinking the eggs out of existence. You're not going crazy

[desert ibex]

Lethal Enemies + point extraction + Haz 5.5

Uh oh

[hoary cove]

not guaranteed

[frail patrol]

:laughhard: My teammates were downed 90% of that stage, and when they were up they were burning through nitra wasting resupps just for more hp... after the first 7 or so revives i just left them down. Managed 6 aquarks solo until i was overwhelmed

It is that bad

[ebon anchor]

I can see that happening

3rd stage if you have less experienced dwarves it's gonna be a lot harder

If your team knows what they are doing the aquarqs will get done in no time

[calm jetty]

is the edd crazy or nah

[vernal willow]

Beat it with randoms in 45 mins before heading to work. It's has its moments, but still tame compared to some previous tough ones.

[limpid pond]

Holy shit this EDD is AWFUL

Stage 1 spawns you in front of a Spitballer artillery battery, and there's a Breeder, a bunch of Leeches, and a bunch of Brood Nexi
Stage 2 is just an ammo destroying slog
Stage 3 spawns you in a pit with a Breeder and a shit ton of Mactera, and then on top of that it's Lethal Enemies PE with 2 Eggs

We were constantly low on ammo with Impact Deflection, Sticky Fuel and Explosive Chemical Rounds, absolute hell

I swear the Escort Duty has one of those +1 Haz level unlucky spawn counts. 3 man group, called two resupplies for the Heartstone. Burned through every single clip and was still hurting on ammo after it finished.

[hoary cove]

i didn’t find it too bad

as long as escort doesn’t have bulks or menaces, it’s usually ok

[ebon anchor]

Ye

Tight on nitra for first two stages for sure but third stage has plenty

Called like 5 resups or something

[half hill]

Second stage was challenging
third stage was just a matter of clearing it fast
the landing are on EDD 3 is pretty hard though, with all the goop on the ground

[placid crane]

are people saying the nitra this time in edd is too thin and small

[tulip idol]

I've just read on reddit about that

[placid crane]

I'unno, I didn't seem to have an issue in either the duo or the 4-man I did.

[shut oracle]

we got into 3rd stage with no ammo left and got greeted by mactera swarm 😬

[tacit jungle]

barely made it in 3rd stage, a few almost wipes and then couldn't find the pod at the end

but driller clutched it

[shut oracle]

felt short on ammo even on cryo but i had to carry escort hard

maybe try it with sticky flames if i go with driller again

or get an ammo saving team 😬

[waxen terrace]

i think the crspr does better in this edd than cryo

[slate tartan]

any tips for this edd?

[lunar helm]

don't die

[slate tartan]

👍

[shut oracle]

ima cheese it with em discharge if i get engi spot

[dusty ocean]

Is there a list of this week's missions?

[random rampart]

yes, it's the most recent pinned message. it's updated every week

[tulip idol]

This edd is kinda easy, I went 10-0 and on the last stage just helped to bring aquarqs up top with superthrows while killing lots of bugs

Someone said that it was his first completed edd, he tried several times before our game

At this point for me EDD is just talking and watching how others play while occasionally drinking some tea

[unkempt saffron]

Stage 3 had so much nitra it feels like some kind of weird joke

But either ways, predrilling works without a driller if one is committed enough

[glossy dock]

Isnt it predigging at that point?

[unkempt saffron]

Yeah it is, and its arduous

[winter oak]

If i went in as gunner for this weeks deep dive, and advice on what weapons and builds i should use? I want to be prepped for the dreadnauts but also have SOME ammo left at the end of each round.

[unkempt saffron]

Anything works really for deep dive

[waxen terrace]

^

its just haz 3

[unkempt saffron]

As long as it isnt burning hell or volly bullets, but even then those may work fine enough too

[winter oak]

I know its just haz 3 but im just stupid

[waxen terrace]

also for edd just get the eggs when doretta makes a stop

[cursive cedar]

or cheese it with driller

[waxen terrace]

the eggs are at the refuel and near the omoran rooms

drilling straight to the eggs wastes alot of time with how far they are

[winter oak]

Im not quite ready to do an EDD yet. Im still getting use to haz 4, let alone havent unlocked haz 5

[waxen terrace]

and nitra also isnt common in stage 2

[unkempt saffron]

Me as an engi and some other guy as a gunner would relate, but its honestly not too bad

[waxen terrace]

and you defo want at least 3 resupps for escorts

[cursive cedar]

and someone using gunner with neuro-toxin in EDD this week

[waxen terrace]

stage 2 is very doable ye if your team is competent

[cursive cedar]

fail straight because gunner doesnt clear fast enough

[waxen terrace]

ntp makes things alot easier with the giant swarms

[cursive cedar]

no fear

[waxen terrace]

but ntp is shit without t5b's fear ye

i went ntp fear and brt stun

[cursive cedar]

basically wasting ammo

[waxen terrace]

driller going crspr also helped

way faster kill times than cryo or sludge

epc for stage 2 also helps with the cancer oil shale placements

[unkempt saffron]

Oil shale isnt too bad

Theyre reachable with plats at least

[wraith shard]

@tulip idol asking you because the opinions in here vary too much lol.
Is this EDD tight on nitra on the first 2 stages or was it enough?

[waxen terrace]

plats and gunner ziplines

its enough

2 resupps for stage 1, 3 or 4 resupps for stage 2

[unkempt saffron]

Nitra will be tight for the first 2 stages

[wraith shard]

I'm gonna decide on what to run then, but I don't trust the opinions of most people here 😆

[unkempt saffron]

Especially if its a 4 man

[tulip idol]

We had only 2 supply pods on escort for ommoran fight so I'd say yes

[waxen terrace]

ive done the edd at least 5 times already

[tulip idol]

but on PE it's totally fine

[unkempt saffron]

Stage 3 is plentiful

[waxen terrace]

and so far nitra is just barely enough

[cursive cedar]

i had a bug in stage 3

[wraith shard]

I'm gonna run AC then I guess

[unkempt saffron]

Every corner theres nitra

[waxen terrace]

AC is the best option for this edd ye

[cursive cedar]

bug wont stop spawning every 5 sec

[tulip idol]

I went minelayer so I always had ammo

[waxen terrace]

nah thats just PE in haz 5.5

[tulip idol]

and could drink tea when I wanted

[waxen terrace]

bugs spawn everytime

[wraith shard]

And take a nap on Doretta

While the mines explode

[tulip idol]

also going gunner is nice in the way that engi can't kill you with fat boy, and I meet such suicide engi like every EDD somehow

[unkempt saffron]

The swarms on stage 3 are manageable, the conventional PE layout makes it super simple to set up some fighting positions

[waxen terrace]

the thing is also, always look for the nitra veins and dont just dive for the objectives

especially in stage 1 and 2

but the veins are in obvious spots

[unkempt saffron]

The hardest part about this edd is really just the start of the first stage, the rest is just a matter of preseverance

[waxen terrace]

we left stage 1 with like 100 nitra after 2 resupps

[wraith shard]

I probably won't have an engi on my team this week, doing Gunner-Driller and maybe Scout team. We have enough firepower

[waxen terrace]

oh yea be prepared for alot of spitballers, nexuses, and breeders in stage 1 and 3

especially stage 1

[wraith shard]

Anyway, let's see how this goes. An EDD without being spoiled with tons of nitra on the first stages might be a change after the last weeks lol

[tulip idol]

I said team - have fun with those I'm digging eggs, and the next 3-5 mins my mates were suffering since the first 2 eggs I dug out were 2 swarms and I didn't give them time to clean all that pre-spawn

[waxen terrace]

good to know

[solemn lake]

Oof

What are the missions in today's dd again?

[wraith shard]

It's updated in the pins here

[wheat spire]

I'm probably just stupid but why are most deep dive lobbies greyed out for me?

[feral pilot]

They are already in progress

Can’t join at that point

[wheat spire]

Thank you

[deft fern]

I'm currently hunting down achievements , and there is one for completing a deep dive under 45 min, Current rotation is possible for completion under 45 min?

[unkempt saffron]

yes just look at #deep-dive-speedrunning

[burnt sandal]

any deep dive can be achieved under 45min

[unkempt saffron]

you can either do it solo or with a competent team, either ways getting under 45 mins is not impossible

[deft fern]

good to know, time to team up

[unkempt saffron]

just dont waste too much time on unnecessary stuff

[river parcel]

Point Extraction with Lethal...no I will pass

[waxen terrace]

just dont get hit

[tulip idol]

what if it's 3 escorts?

[old widget]

can't be 3 escorts, but escort / refinery / escort would be pretty painful

there's apparently logic that prevents the same primary goal from repeating in consecutive stages

[tulip idol]

and add biozone to it

with complexity 3 caves

[old widget]

mmhmm

"I /think/ there's a ceiling up there, but I can't see my flare from here"

[tulip idol]

so you will spend infinity trying to find that oil shale

and one of the wells will be on the worst ledge ever

right 100+ m above you

[tame verge]

Throw back to when Deep dives could have 2 stop escorts

[runic bane]

Question. For EDD stage 2. And regarding escorts as primary objective in general. Can you get the heartstone then do 2nd objective? Or you must do 2nd objective before starting heartstone removal.

[burnt sandal]

you can do them in any order you prefer

[runic bane]

Ok. I might get the 2 eggs after then. Cuz getting triggering the swarm when doretta is still there.... Was not a good idea 😂

[burnt sandal]

yeah, it's not the best plan indeed

[tulip idol]

trigger the swarm when on the go so enemies can despawn each other

[jade tusk]

But of course. You have despawn a few grunts for 3 bulks, some menaces, and a grabber to grab the last man standing before they could revive the gunner for him to save the team from a last minute wipe

[wraith shard]

We stripped stage 1 and 2 of the EDD and looked everywhere, it was roughly 550 nitra totally between the two stages.

(without stage 3, that stage was really nitra paradise lol)

You can really use it all on Ommoran stage 2 if you want, no need to stress about carrying over resups

[lone elbow]

Think it would be idiotic to use RJ250 on a deep dive?

[pseudo jacinth]

anyone else got greeted by a bulk detonator in edd level 3?

[violet warren]

So, I still hate sticky goo, but in stage 3 we got some pretty good use out of it slowing down the swarms while a few engi plats allowed us to maneuver around it

We had a bulk detonator in the final survival stage but it was on the ceiling so it couldn't get to us

[quiet wyvern]

i'ma try and solo these dives, may go gunni or driller on Elite, but i'll go Scout on reg.

[violet warren]

We cut it very close on stage 2 though, the final swarm almost got the drilldozer and we had to pop every iron will and field medic in the squad to salvage it

And get carried by the heartstone's final shockwave

Did get to pop off on cryo driller and get most kills (to be fair a lot of that was probably swarmer kills, but I think I still took on most of the aggro in stage 1's double swarm after 2 people went down and managed to cryo and vampire my way through it

[ashen veldt]

Nah. If you're good with it, go for it.

[barren girder]

i did the edd while rubberbanding through stage 2 and 3 as driller

[unkempt saffron]

In edd?

[violet warren]

Yeah in the EDD

[unkempt saffron]

Never got any bulks in my run, guess the bulk spawns are low this time round

[lethal chasm]

bulk spawns aren’t based on a certain percentage, the game will choose certain enemies at the start of a mission/deep dive stage to throw at you

sometimes you get a bunch of goo bombers, other times it’s menaces or wardens

same w bulk dets

if you didn’t see any, they’re probably not in the spawn pool

[fiery thorn]

Just completed my first Deep Dive ever, completely solo by myself.

[lethal chasm]

nicely done 🙂

[fiery thorn]

Thanks!

[elder citrus]

Maybe I'm blind, but I'm not seeing much on the normal DD. Anything I should know? Will most likely be running solo

[drifting chasm]

Just done my first deep dive and crushed it ( i was solo ) looking forward to more missions ( i hope their alot easier than the mission i just completed).

[calm jetty]

Good job lads

[calm jetty]

Based on context clues it seems like this week’s dd isnt too much of a hassle

[waxen terrace]

dd is never a hassle

[jolly hazel]

unless you are not good at the game

[calm jetty]

Be nice

[jolly hazel]

I mean, its not an attack

everyone started as a beginner

some pick it up quicker than others

I think any other justification is just dancing around the issue

[solid nova]

i just got this game
on my potato pc lmao-

time to ask people for tips instead of searching the wiki or actually play the game

[ancient arrow]

ill play with ya 🙂

[winter oak]

Stage 2 drop pod nearly ended my mission...

I got stuck and i had like 20 hp left when i got out

[west merlin]

Ooof my team used it all on stage 2 (didn't plan to, partly because the Driller had to go AFK for several minutes in the middle room) and then died while trying to get enough nitra in the 3rd stage to call a resupply :(

Went through our 3 iron wills clearing the initial enemies and then the swarm came, I think Scout died with enough in her inventory at the end

I think we only used 5 resupplies so we may have missed some nitra veins.
Might've been 6 resupplies

Oh yeah we used 2 in the first stage 2 in the middle of stage 2 and 2 at the ommoran

[jade epoch]

well for stage 3 scout needs to have 2 cryos for breeders. also staying in drop pod for 30s to let remote platform fall down is bighead

[west merlin]

So we only missed like 40 nitra if it was 550

[west merlin]

Oh that would've been a good idea

Never thought of that before

[jade epoch]

250 nitra on 1st stage minimum

~240+ at least on 2nd stage

popping eggs after aquarqs also BigHead

but ~1/3rd of nitra on 2nd stage is really well hidden in weird places 😄

[west merlin]

I think we did get nearly all of it

Had Driller not AFKed we might have... probably lost midway through the 3rd stage, but would've had a shot

[west merlin]

We were gonna pop the eggs as soon as the 1st swarm finished.

Although had we survived the 1st swarm we probably would've waited until the 2nd while grabbing nitra and aquarks

[jade epoch]

Well to each their own but with PE's ramping difficulty as time goes on We figured it's best to pop both eggs at once and immediately launch the rocket

after that i just zipped in circles as scout for 3 minutes till drop pod arrived meanwhile everyone died 10/10 experiance

I did it twice actually, first time We did it like you suggest. 1st swarm -> eggs swarms but right when we killed egg swarm a 2nd swarm from PE arrived so it was literally 3 swarms back to back and at that point you're around 12-15min mark on haz5.5 PE lethal enemies which means permanent ambient swarms which make it REALLY hard to get last aquarqs ^^

[tall meadow]

Team of randoms did it very casually twice

Aquards first and then eggs

[hoary cove]

regular dd only goes to haz3.5 so if ur good at 4 and 5 it’s a breeze

[west merlin]

Oh but you've got to get the aquarks first to do that anyway

[wraith shard]

Damn, that sucks.
To be fair, stage 3 was the most challenging this week imo. I had 0 downs during the entire edd until right in the end when an elite slasher sneaked up, stunned me and took my full health + shield immediately 🥴

[waxen terrace]

just get whatever aquarqs and egg below

[hoary cove]

shuda just stuck in the goo like me

[wraith shard]

Slashers on elite threat + haz 5.5 are brutal, especially when you get lots of them coming from different places

[waxen terrace]

tell your gunner to make ziplines

[wraith shard]

Yeah, the goo was actually kinda nice lol

[west merlin]

An Elite Slasher? They have those

[hoary cove]

i was just jumping around in the goo during the swarm

[west merlin]

Oof though

Yeah I didn't expect to get through the last mission TBH so I'm not hugely cut up about it

[west merlin]

Wow I never thought of that before but standing in the middle of a huge goo puddle would be the ideal defensive spot

Until the Mactera show up

[wraith shard]

wow that EDD is dirty

[waxen terrace]

stage 3 is lethal enemies

every melee hit is amped

[wraith shard]

So hard to get Nitra

[wraith shard]

Screw my brain, I was still on that recent EDD with elite threat mentally lmao. Yeah, this week is lethal, and slashers are horrible there

[lofty pond]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[quiet wyvern]

just solo'd the EDD as scout, 1,300 + kills, no downs 😎

[digital chasm]

gone

[old widget]

Congrats! 13,000 kills is quite a few though…maybe 1,300?

[tacit grail]

he ment 13k

[old widget]

Pretty sure 13,000 enemies don’t spawn in a solo EDD.

(Unless mods of course)

[quiet wyvern]

actually i meant 1,300 +, 13,000 would not have been possible

[old widget]

honestly 1300 is insane for scout, that's pretty awesome. what build?

[quiet wyvern]

i'll display in gallery in just a min.

[quiet wyvern]

what did you think? honestly i could've gone driller and gotten way more, but i wanted to run with scout for a change and see what i could do, i almost died several times, but kept it together

[old widget]

definitely an interesting way to mix it up a bit as scout

most folks I see run solo EDDs as scout do 90% grappling/kiting and 10% fighting which usually results in low kills

the starship troopers mod does help explain the higher kills though, honestly was surprised to even see 1300 spawns in a solo EDD 😅

[quiet wyvern]

i just wanted to see how my build would help, and it does have it's uses

[next blaze]

A bit off topic, but do you cancel your shogun reloads, General? Cause fun fact, if you do, fire rate actually gives you faster reloads than reload speed

though the fast animation is pretty cool

[quiet wyvern]

Yes, I do, and it works wonders, btw with this build along with Ifg's, it shreds Praetorians

[next blaze]

Yeah! I need to play with bullets of mercy more, I haven't used it all that much

[digital chasm]

bullets of mercy + cryo mines + ifgs

[hoary cove]

fire rate gives faster reload even without canceling

[scenic finch]

How hard is this weeks edd?

[tulip idol]

easy as always

[digital chasm]

no nitra, first stage has 3 spitballers right next to each other

[scenic finch]

So from easy to hard you give it a “no nitra, first stage has 3 spitballers right next to each other”

[digital chasm]

yes

[hoary cove]

you can snipe the spitters pretty easily

nitra isn’t bad at all

[wraith shard]

You're asking that in a channel where people with 2000 hrs vs people with 100 hrs will reply. The answers will be "easy" and "hard" every time.

[hoary cove]

stage 3 is probably the hardest this edd gets. so if ur struggling just stand in the goo

ez dub

[scenic finch]

My mate did it first try without watching anything as his first solo edd

[west merlin]

Gods imagine having lethal enemies and elite threat and getting an elite slasher

[scenic finch]

He said it wasnt bad when I asked.

[wraith shard]

^ and try it regardless, cause only one blank and maybe one weapon OC will be better than nothing either way

[scenic finch]

Although he said there was 2 bulk dets stage 3

[wraith shard]

I didn't have any bulks

That's rng

[west merlin]

I wonder how one could get above 10,000 kills in a single game

Slayer stout + see you in hell + vampire on a haz 1 point extraction?

[old widget]

Haz1 is like 20 bugs a minute

[hoary cove]

just do swarmer infestation

[restive trout]

Great. Just great. Stage 3 of the EDD. And the last egg somehow disapeared from the map.

One hour down the gutter.

Useless. Pointless. Why cant these things happen in stage 1?

[burnt sandal]

soloing it ?

[restive trout]

Yes.

[burnt sandal]

yeah, that's a known issue with bosco atm

[restive trout]

Oh. Good. Great.

[hoary cove]

i remember i also got soft locked on one of my earlier solo edds. Put me off of solo for awhile

[restive trout]

Maybe ad a warning or something?

Bah.

[burnt sandal]

I think it would be kind of time consuming if the devs had to make a warning for every bug that happens within the game

[restive trout]

Maybe every gamebreaking bug would suffice.

[burnt sandal]

I think they prefer focusing on fixing them instead

[tulip idol]

that issue requires you to get the egg from Bosco directly, I never do this lol

[restive trout]

Yea. What happened is that the egg was right next to the aquarq. And I though he dug up the gem so I wanted to get it out and point him to the egg again. But thats where I grabbed the egg into the void. Also your mockery has been dully noted.

[scenic finch]

They didn’t “mock” you at all…

[restive trout]

That "lol" seems to indicate that intention.

[scenic finch]

Thats not mocking…

They are just saying they don’t pick things up from Bosco directly instead of pressing x to get Bosco to throw it.

[restive trout]

Yes.

[scenic finch]

The most confusing reply, I have ever gotten.

[restive trout]

What else is there to say now other than to affirm what you said.

[tiny frost]

woo hoo first tried the edd this week

[west merlin]

That would help but you can't get back health that way

You gotta be able to keep meleing bugs after you've used up all the red sugar, resupplies and ammo

But yeah even on PE haz 1 might be too slow.
An OK player (my skill level or above) could probably handle haz 3 at least with net health gain given Skull Crusher + See You In Hell... except for the various non grunt enemies of course

Oh and in MP you could take turns reviving each other on 3 or below

Oh hang on are Bosco's kills counted as yours on solo? That's the one other source of infinite damage besides pickaxe

And terrain hazards

[winter oak]

Did this deep dive using lead-storm LS OC for the first time, and I absolutely loved it. Theres no feeling like shredding through the twins in less than 2 minutes

It was much harder against the classic dreadnaut but it still worked

[shut falcon]

In EDD: Stage 1:
Gunner is dead 50m away from the other 3 every swarm for the third time. They are also calling resupplies every 80 nitra when no one needs them.
During one swarm, they pull 3 more Alien eggs while everyone else is fighting. They are ignoring all communication and have been the entire mission.
Would you kick them?

[west merlin]

100% absolutely, not for the dying but for the resupplies and the eggs

You don't want to do the next 2 stages with that guy

[shut falcon]

It happened today. However, after I kicked them, the two other people left almost right away once they saw the kick, leaving me and Bosco to solo the whole rest.

Got Fatboy, it was nice. But I didn't want to do it alone this week

[west merlin]

I'd have just restarted at that point

Maybe just for kicking the Gunner

[shut falcon]

Yeah. It was an unfortunate consequence.

[west merlin]

Doing the 3rd without ziplines would be rough unless your Driller and Engy were on the ball

[shut falcon]

I was able to use all the goo puddles to handle the third by myself really well, at least

[west merlin]

Oh neat congrats

[hoary cove]

there is goo in the sack

[thick jetty]

Gah!
So close to completing my first EDD, team got downed to a bulk in the last stage
I panicked and got stuck in the sticky goo

[hoary cove]

ngl i was in the goo for most the swarms

[scenic finch]

I was around the egg next to the minehead most of the time just running in circles while bosco got the aquarqs

[ashen veldt]

How bad is this one? It generally looks not so great, and idk just how bad stage 3 is, but haz 5.5 lethal enemies are sounding very lethal

[hoary cove]

it’s pretty easy for lethal enemies

the cave has s huge and there is tons of goo to slow bugs

[ashen veldt]

Ay, where's the ammo in stage 2?

[waxen terrace]

none

conserve your ammo

and do eggs during the refuel or before omoran

[winter surge]

Sorry to whomever I just abandoned at the end of stage 2 of the regular deep dive; my computer lost power

[ashen veldt]

yeahhh, we lost that one

[waxen terrace]

i assume driller using cryo

[ashen veldt]

We had that RP dwarf but his internet died and he couldn't rejoin

Nah, you assumed wrong

Disperser sludge

[waxen terrace]

try crspr

[ashen veldt]

Though I may switch to sticky flames

Yeah ik lol

[waxen terrace]

sludge's slowdown worked for me in stage 2

but not really well in stage 3 bc of spitters and macterras

[ashen veldt]

Sticky is just flat out better imo, but disperser does fairly well too and is more fun to use

[waxen terrace]

yea use sticky

kills faster and macterras hate fire

[ashen veldt]

Should I be trying to solo the rocks in stage 2? Should I take explosive reload over persistent plasma..?

[waxen terrace]

solo the rocks?

if your engi is competent he should be making a platform roof above doretta

[ebon anchor]

sometime the map layout not able to make roof, if the stone is too far from a wall

[waxen terrace]

stage 2 is roof viable

[hoary cove]

explosive reload is good if u don’t think ur team can handle the rocks alone

[wispy monolith]

I made a roof in stage 2, worked well.

[shut oracle]

or gooarium

[burnt sandal]

#suggestions

[formal vale]

I made a roof in stage 2 as well

EDD

[wild sapphire]

anyone up to do normal dd

[old widget]

#lfg-playstation

[wild sapphire]

ah mb

[alpine raptor]

After several false starts this week, got the EDD last night. Driller (me), two Engi's and a Gunner. Team was tight. Didn't go down until stage 3. Everyone got out.

Ran cryo with aoe cryo on self. Good times.

Nitra vein right next to the dozer on refuel, in the "arch". Somehow we never ran into resupply problems the whole EDD(Am proud Driller. Finder of lost Nitra).

[leaden notch]

Tried scrolling up and messages won't load, what's the DD this week?

[alpine raptor]

^Pinned message.

[leaden notch]

ah sorry not a discord wiz lol

[alpine raptor]

No judgement. Only Rock and Stone, brother.

[inland current]

Did someone say a rock and stone?!?

nah but fr the low ammo for stage two keeps ruins my team's day lol

[frozen fable]

has anybody managed to complete stage 3 on the elite dd

[old widget]

last EDD stage is a definite test of skill this week, if you aren't really good at kiting and avoiding damage you're gonna have a Bad Time

[wraith shard]

You made it to the last stage?!

🤭

[buoyant wing]

me and friend did EDD with ease but the bulk that showed up and cratered the field near the rig on stage 3 made things awkward

[alpine raptor]

We had 2 oppressors show up in stage 3, but cryo is a friend to all bugs. :)

[manic pivot]

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[quartz osprey]

Bot had a stroke

[verbal pewter]

wtf

[digital chasm]

has mission control been eating the error cubes again?

[versed stone]

I just did this week's EDD and didn't get any rewards...

I'm very upset

[winter surge]

computer keeps shitting itself in the middle of stage 2 of this deep dive

[buoyant wing]

he never stopped

corporate is withholding his sugar cubes for the tea and he's had to improvise

[odd comet]

Wait, Mission Control drinks tea?

What a leaf lover

[topaz summit]

Same thing just happened to me

[brave belfry]

I saw somebody complaining about not getting EDD rewards in #drg-chat earlier yesterday. Is this normal?

[random rampart]

How many times did they complete the edd at the time of complaint?

[brave belfry]

I'unno, I just saw it in passing and then saw two people talking about it here.

[alpine raptor]

I didn't get anything for stage 3, but I'm not about to redo the whole thing for a cosmetic. 😂

[jolly hazel]

the frequency of the complaints points towards a bug

[sturdy plinth]

looking for scout and engi to play now, based on spain, ping me

[wispy cloak]

finally did my first edd, damn boi last stage with lethal enemies was a pain

[chilly obsidian]

Failed my first attempt at the EDD yesterday

Last stage had a bulk spawn almost immediately at start, forcing us out of the pod into a hellscape that never ended. We got everything out, but couldn't get the egg or last aquarq to the top

Also another bulk in the middle of it all

[scenic trellis]

sounds rough

[fiery thorn]

Is there a point to doing machine events without Matrix Cores?

Or are they essentially useless if you don't have any blanks

Just wondering in case it gives some sort of bonus award.

[shut oracle]

think it also gives xp

[jolly hazel]

practice

especially for omen

[mint pivot]

Yeah it's a pretty nice xp boost

[hoary cove]

you get xp for failing it

[tall meadow]

Get xp from it but be reminded said machine event timer has to end before you all leave from the stage

[fiery thorn]

and if you complete it?

[old widget]

no difference in XP between winning or not

timer just has to run out, so you can't do something like start the event then hop in the drop pod and leave. if you don't have any blank matrix cores (and none of your teammates do either) then you can often just start the event and run off somewhere else while the timer ticks down

(also, this topic is probably better for #drg-chat since deep dives can't spawn machine events...)

[fiery thorn]

Well it's still about Matrix cores