deep-dive-discussion

[vernal willow]

Like triangle, with dotty at top

[wicked echo]

We always get into a spiral of death where all players are low, and since it's lethal enemies, it's one hit and people go down

[open ledge]

I don’t remember even seeing any lethal enemies

Thankfully

[burnt sandal]

?

[open ledge]

It was weird

I coulda sworn there weren’t any

[burnt sandal]

are you thinking about elite threat warning ?

Lethal enemies just cause melee attack from enemies to deal double damage

[open ledge]

Oh

Yeah I was thinking of the elite threat

[burnt sandal]

make sense ^^

[open ledge]

Lol yup

[warped adder]

This EDD isn't really hard per se, but it does require everyone to bring good loadouts and play properly

A lot of people are used to bringing shit builds and fucking around, hoping to get carried

[manic pivot]

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[viscid oak]

What happened to me earlier when I first tried 3 engi’s joined my game no teamwork they were just mucking about … couldn’t be arsed with that…aborted

Second run was much better was 2 of us in the end

[slow bramble]

looking for advice, solo eng EDD. Am I right not to consider electrocution stack build for dreadnoughts because of the resis modifiers? And thoughts on the Return to Sender breach cutter overclock to double hit dreadnoughts?

[tulip idol]

if you talk about electro-Refire build then I'd say CC-wise it'll do nothing (if you go full electro) and dps-wise it's by far not the best (if you go full dmg)
Turret Arc, though, very good against OG dread, useful against Sentinels and doesn't really do anything against twins
And R2S is good against any heavy target including dreadnoughts, use it if you don't have clear sight on dread's weak point or just to finish him off

In addition, also consider using vs. dreads:

• Executioner LOK-1
• Hyperprop PGL
• Neuro-Lasso LOK-1
• Cycle Overload Warthog

@slow bramble https://www.twitch.tv/ushankaparty/clip/YummyDirtyMarrowANELE

[slow bramble]

hadnt considered neurolasso

that doesnt get a big reduction on those large bugs?

[tulip idol]

nothing have resistance to neuro-lasso

[slow bramble]

I was thinking seeker rounds if I went Lok1

[tulip idol]

yeah it's good for finishing I guess, but you know BC can also finish through armor

as for doing dmg executioner might be the best

CC-wise neuro-lasso is more handy than Turret Arc

[slow bramble]

I wasnt thinking CC as much as permenant electrocution with Bosco, for the bonus damage

[tulip idol]

only ifg and turret arc can electrocute dread

for bonus damage

[slow bramble]

But I also hadnt considerred hyerprop PGL, I much prefer the PGL so Ill probably do that

[tulip idol]

but bonus damage is electric iirc

[slow bramble]

ok scratch elec then

[tulip idol]

so you're right it's getting reduced by electric resistance

so even if you use conductive bullets with EM Refire you won't get as much dmg as with warthog cycle overload I think

and not even close to Executioner I suppose

[tulip idol]

hyperprop is like #1 weapon against dreads in entire game

[slow bramble]

i dont usually play solo so Ive never really tested it much

[tulip idol]

only one thing can beat it in dps - axe burst

[slow bramble]

heh

[tulip idol]

but engi doesn't have it

[slow bramble]

is armor breaking useful on any dread?

[tulip idol]

ye driller's usually usinghis drills to strip armor from twins' sides and open their weak points

[slow bramble]

that is considered armor then

wasnt sure

[tulip idol]

yep heavy armor

[slow bramble]

and the dreadnought's red fat ass too?

[tulip idol]

nah that one is like caretaker's vents

additional health you can call it

[slow bramble]

hm

thanks for the tips, ima give it a go

[old widget]

I'm assuming everyone else noticed that you drop into the ultra-rare Azure Weald anti-gravity pit thing at the beginning of the DD? That was a cool thing I doubt I'll ever see again

[fervent meteor]

What on earth is the second level of this EDD

double wave of lethals, ouch

[open ledge]

It wasn’t that bad cause I had a goated team with 2 gunners

But the extraction got us

[tulip idol]

2nd stage was lethal? I didn't even notice

with current increased ping distances I don't even know from where I get dmg

[vale falcon]

maaagic

[wraith shard]

we were doing really great on lvl 2 of edd, almost done then the host's game crashed

pain

[fair kettle]

Hey guys I have a question. When people post in LFG, and they post about pods, where does one find these pods?

[vale falcon]

pods are the voice chats

the ones inside this discords

[jolly hazel]

I think I've had it happen twice including that time

never that perfectly before though

weird how the edd/dd also had that uber rare mushroom too a few months ago

[fair kettle]

Oh I see them now. Just hadn't scrolled fast enough

[rose escarp]

Easy elite dive.

[heavy crest]

That detonator on edd stage 2

[summer wigeon]

What detonator

[opal kraken]

spawns are different between players

[trim stream]

@heavy crest we used the detonator to one shot the twins lol

Oh that was stage 1

[amber nimbus]

What the hell is going on with all the bulk detonators in the EDD?

I legit saw two at once in the second stage and Ive seen about nine tonight in it.

[scarlet jewel]

You use them to destroy the dreadnoughts

[plucky raft]

More than that, spawns are different between every map. You can play the same map multiple times and not get the same experience twice.

[amber nimbus]

Man if only I could show screenshots in this chat to show just how BS this weeks EDD is.

Fourth time in a row a bulk came in on the last part of the heartstone on stage 2.

[opal kraken]

yeah, i used the wrong words to explain this

[upbeat obsidian]

Man that stage 2 this week is filthy

good test of a tight team though

[unkempt saffron]

Its really a measure of your teams willpower, i swear the moment i got downed halfway through the stage i just thought of giving up

[fathom terrace]

on a EDD 2 weeks ago someone mentioned how a bulk detonator mined below their fuel cells

the same happened to me

[hoary cove]

i don’t think they’ll ever do something like that

they want content to be pretty easy to access with minimal grinding

[unkempt saffron]

#suggestions

[ebon anchor]

2 of my newish friends asked me to help them with EDD stage 2 but I feel guilty cos it's most likely gonna fail

I am not that good myself

[burnt sandal]

you'll be fine

do what you can and try to have fun

it's just a game

[upbeat obsidian]

There's no cost to trying, even if you fail. Any rewards you get are an added bonus.

Also, if you can do Haz 4, the first stage is basically a free core, and the second stage is going to either go fine or be so criminally hard for you and your friends that you will get something to laugh about after/later. xD

[jolly hazel]

just play scout lol

[umbral beacon]

Hey what is the meta for the Enineer?

[jolly hazel]

gun

if that dont work

use more gun

[umbral beacon]

thanks for the advice captain Obvious

anyone else with a more serious answer?

[burnt sandal]

yes : there's not really a meta to speak of

just use whatever you like

[umbral beacon]

yeah im just asking the most efficient resource spending

thanks

[burnt sandal]

I can give you general advice but most of it comes down to personal preference tbh.
Besides, most advices only start to really matter once you play in haz 4 and above

[unkempt saffron]

There is no exact meta, theres builds which can be tailored for certain missions or use sets

[umbral beacon]

Thanks for the answer, but isnt there some specific build that copes with most of the mission types?

[unkempt saffron]

For the most part, theres a lot of general purpose builds out there for engineer, if you want ideas on builds check out karl.gg, the drg subreddit or even steam guides

Some may work for you, others not really, take your time and figure out a build which you can run with

[umbral beacon]

thanks for the answers mates, i will ding up for more info on you suggestions

[jolly hazel]

yeah play good enough so that your load out doesn't matter lol

"meta" is probably magnetic pellet alignment/cycle overload shotgun, em refire stubby, or executioner/chemical rounds lok1 paired with clean sweep grenade launcher

[unkempt saffron]

Id probably swap cycle overload with mini shells since it seems to be far more popular and just works better for a generalist build imo

[jolly hazel]

cycle overload shreds big boys

when I used mini shells, I couldn't one shot grunt faces iirc

[unkempt saffron]

Eh just get close or double tap them, i find CO not that ammo efficient, but thats just me

[jolly hazel]

yeah it definetly isn't lol

but it feels like the aa-12 from modern warfare 2

also u dont have to auto fire, u can still tap headshot like mag pellet

[open ledge]

I like YouTube too, then you see gameplay with it

[main anvil]

All of them are the best

[pallid maple]

☢️ 💥

[open ledge]

Fat boy

[little timber]

solo EDD done thank you ice spear

I never realized how good flying nightmare is on escort missions

[little timber]

Based and clean sweep pulled

[open ledge]

Clean sweep napalm is very nice

Makes those tunnels bug death traps

[jolly hazel]

napalm cuts dmg doesnt it

[little timber]

Yes but no

It has no radius fall off

So bugs on the edge take just as much fire damage

[jolly hazel]

I like proximity

[little timber]

They are not mutually exclusive

[jolly hazel]

because it still explodes in the middle of a group

I thought fire was tier 5

[little timber]

nope

its tier 3

proximity is great with napalm because it increases aoe, and the aforementioned no radius fall off of fire

tier 5 is between 60 direct damage, proximity mine, and whatever the fuck inertia disabler does

[jolly hazel]

I think inertia disabled is for rj250

so u can save urself

also

I think I have armor cracking instead of fire because of the dmg nerf

[little timber]

fire makes clean sweep into a wave deleter with 6.1 radius

[jolly hazel]

6.1? do u take ammo mods

[little timber]

no

not the first one

you take the second

1 radius is too much to lose for 2 ammo

[supple hollow]

Finally did EDD solo on PS5 🙌

hardest week so far

[little timber]

I had 2 bulk dets on the escort yea, it was rough

[worthy roost]

Any news on what the Error Helices will turn out to be? They certainly are odd to stumble upon.

[jolly hazel]

eh

2 more shots is a lot of dmg

[random rampart]

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[ancient cove]

I normally take Autocannon when playing Gunner for EDD because of the sheer number of bugs, but I'm seeing 4 dreads on the list. Is Minigun recommended instead?

[jolly hazel]

just dont take carpet bomber

imo there's enough crowd to clear on mission 2

that minigun is a liability

[thin echo]

neurotoxin on ac seems weaker than carpet or shrapnel, am i missing something?

[jolly hazel]

also I generally do fine with ac vs dreads

[jolly hazel]

combine it with tier 5 fear mod and bugs run away while dying of neurotoxin damage over time

only need to spend a few shells to apply the dot to a large group

and then they die before reaching you

mileage varies with different enemy types

[burnt sandal]

the big CC part of it is the biggest appeal : massive radius for applying a 30% + fear effect from the T5 mod

while doing DoT damage

[jolly hazel]

neurotoxin increases radius?

[burnt sandal]

also it's very good for the ammo economy since you don't need to shoot at a poisoned grunt

[jolly hazel]

huh

[burnt sandal]

yes

[thin echo]

ye best aoe increase of all ac mods afaik

maybe 2nd to carpet

[burnt sandal]

NTP gives +0.6m radius

[thin echo]

also is there any real reason to take mg over ac? from what i've read even lead storm aint that good cuz of drawbacks

[jolly hazel]

its probably the best overall but it is not fun (tm), for me at least

lead storm is real nice if u can bhop well

also fire mods

+bullet hell stun is fun

[worthy roost]

@random rampart What would be the correct channel to ask in then?

[burnt sandal]

minigun you mean ? Yeah, there's a very good reason for that

[jolly hazel]

#drg-chat

[burnt sandal]

It's the best weapon when it comes with dealing with any threats without being prepared

[random rampart]

#drg-chat, of course. this channel isnt for in-depth talking, its for deep dives - a type of mission unlocked after your 1st promotion

[burnt sandal]

So pretty good for Deep Dives if you're not spoiling the levels to you beforehand

[jolly hazel]

even spoiled it is the best generalist

unless they buff hurricane

also dps is constant

versus monigun overheat

unless u take cool kill

[thin echo]

hurricane is a nono for me, too gimmicky, i dont see the point of mouse guided ability when the core thing about drg is fighting in narrow spaces 99.999% of the time

[burnt sandal]

i don't do a lot of fighting in narrow space personally

[thin echo]

havent tried it since i instantly disliked it when i saw the trailer

[burnt sandal]

I don't pick fights in corridor when i can avoid it

[jolly hazel]

I only like fighting in corridors with carpet bomber/driller

[jolly hazel]

can curve around to hit weakspots on heavies

more precision against fliers

it has its niches but

its just medicore

jack of all trades master of none

[burnt sandal]

The main appeal of hurricane is how it works with the combo + long range precision

[jolly hazel]

and the ocs that make it serviceable remove the benefits

of manual guidance

[thin echo]

maybe if they add some "planet surface" - open space, new missions hurricane might be more usable imo, kudos to those that can use it as it is now

[jolly hazel]

I tried hurricane clean oc

felt meh

[burnt sandal]

that's not happening

[jolly hazel]

idk I've seen a LOT of wide open spaces

in this game

[thin echo]

yea but how many times was the obj/wave actually in said open spaces, too dependent on good rng

as for its "snipng" ability... minigun exists so

[split marlin]

hurricane DPS isn't that low

[thin echo]

can you dm me some build for it? might try it out of curiosity

[jolly hazel]

only way it feels ok is with unstable oc or minelayer

for me at least

too much kiting

[jolly hazel]

you can choose where you deal with swarms and egg swarms and mini mule swarms

also driller should be opening up objective areas

[thin echo]

coordination with random ppl is a bit much to ask, premade lobby is fine

i see far too many scouts that barely use flares as if they pay it in blood or something, and engis that dunno how to make a basic obj roof

[spiral panther]

What is this weeks DD?

[jolly hazel]

check pinned messages

[jolly hazel]

what haz do you play on?

[thin echo]

depends if i want to rush missions, otherwise 4-5

[jolly hazel]

I definetly see nocturnal scouts a lot

rarely cheeseless engies

[hasty orchid]

it's post-sale drg, there's alot of greenbeards lately

[jolly hazel]

eh

its at least a month since winter sale

idk if it went on sale again for lunar

[hasty orchid]

lunar new year sale dude, game's half off lol

yeah that

[jolly hazel]

winter sale is usually the worst

because its kids who got steam gift cards

for Christmas

[thin echo]

:buzzlightyear meme: - greenbeards...greanbeards everywhere

its good that the game is expanding its playerbase tho

more players=more updates/more stuff

[jolly hazel]

more dumbasses too

thankfully not as many lol

[thin echo]

yea, they arent that much of an issue since its a pve game, dumbasses in mobas are the worst, which there are plenty there

[jolly hazel]

yeah there's no tangible reward for performing the best

so there's no crabs in a pot mentality

just griefers which generally stick to f2p games or games with more common voice chat

[thin echo]

and 11/10 times ban/report system doesnt work so griefers/inters/trolls are freely doing their thing

dodging que is like far more important than actually playing the game xD...madness

[pseudo kindle]

im 30 losses deep on this edd this week step 2 with the lethal enemies and the 2 detonators that rush doretta is just so rough, anyone got a few tips for this weeks edd?

[jolly hazel]

did you get detonators every single time?

I didnt get a single detonator iirc

cryo driller negates the detonator explosion

and so will cryo grenades

also cryo minelets help

I believe you have to pre drill into the first cavern in order to dislodge the second egg you see because its on the drill path

other than that

you must rip and tear

[pseudo kindle]

i main driller and have drilled to second cave each time to get the first 2 eggs thats normally the strat the high level players go with. i obviously dont play it solo. i have only died on the eggs once its the lethal enemies + drilldozer combo that fucks the team and i play cryo driller and do my best with the bulks but you have to time it really well

[jolly hazel]

how are your teammates

you seem to be doing everything right

[trim stream]

I went in with a friend who was on cryo driller, I was on engi with lok-1(armor break module cause I don't have executioner), and breach cutter, drilled to the eggs first, he'd freeze enemies and I'd use the lok to delete them as quickly as possible, we had one detonator I believe after the first egg but that was it.. the most difficult part was staying on doretta while she traveled at like an 85 degree angle

[jolly hazel]

cryo gunner requires positional awareness more so than any other class.besides maybe engie

yeah the bulk spawns are rng

but

they are in the system

so everyone can get them this week

doesn't mean everyone will

[tulip idol]

Try freeze+axe burst, resupply, repeat
Communicate with team through voice chat (since you play cryodriller - it's all about making calls It's frozen, kill it!)
Gunner should be doing the most impact against bulks, putting dmg in time, scaring bulk with shield & thus making some space and shielding Dotty if needed. If you don't have such gunner — I know it sucks. That's why I usually play gunner myself 😄
Scout may distract one bulk by jumping on him and putting damage, if he's lucky enough bulk will switch his aggro on him. You only need one person to repair Dotty, others should be spread out killing bulks. Bulks don't rush Dotty, they rush dwarves and you stay near Dotty putting it in danger.
Take Ice Spear to deal single target damage from range in advance.
Sludge Pump is also great against Bulks on Escort, consider using it if you're up to it. Although, cryo protects better and is better against dreads too.
Good repellent Engineer would help too. Bulks can be cheesed with repellent pretty hard. The easier solution vs. bulks is to advice engi to have hyperprop/BC since there's also 4 dreads in that mission... Kinda obvious to take hyperprop there...
Scout should help you with double cryo nades or IFG, he should take smth like embedded dets on this edd.

Also I don't do predrilling, it's just waste of time — I'm pretty confident in my firepower to deal with everything that comes along our way and I don't remember me loosing while moving with Dotty.

[jolly hazel]

Idk getting funny double swarmed the instant you break into a new cave with a spitballer

is not fun

p sure the drilldozer goes thru the second egg

[tulip idol]

You won't get more nitra nor further objective progress if you predrill. Sure, if you're not good enough to survive 2 consecutive swarms you may predrill.

Although, having 2 simultaneous swarms is way better than having 2 separate swarms.

[jolly hazel]

eh

I think less skilled players will get overwhelmed

probably better for them to space it

also ice spear is a meme

[tulip idol]

edd is for skilled players, right? 😄

[jolly hazel]

should stick with tuned cooler

[tulip idol]

or I might forgot that the only hard edd were in Endgame update

[jolly hazel]

you'd think so

[feral pilot]

Driller with slow goo build worked pretty well for the EDD for me

[tulip idol]

you just called meme 1200 dmg per shot

[jolly hazel]

yeah

if driller needs to deal single target things have gone very bad

[tulip idol]

more like it goes very bad quite often when you don't have single target

and faster if someone has

also robots aren't part of edd but there is no other cryo build that can deal with them

so unless you resupply axes again and again you can't do anything significant against them

[jolly hazel]

embedded detonator subata suffices for me

with weakspot bonus it two magazines patrol bots

[jolly hazel]

true but tuned cooler cc is more important imo

fine to disagree

I think ice spear spends too much ammo for usually overkill

[tulip idol]

cryo is freezing nicely even at default 8 freezing power with CR fyi

[tulip idol]

haven't tested ER vs. patrols much but it's way easier to land spear in the patrol's wp and oneshot it even if it's moving than to land whole clip of ER multiple times

50 ammo for 500-1200 dmg is 100% justified

use it when you need to save axes

[dense scroll]

second part of EDD is rough

[tulip idol]

I didn't even notice there were eggs and lethal warning

I carried at the last seconds with 200ms ping

so not really I think

[dense scroll]

i'm just trash haha

[trim stream]

I think PC didnt have the 85 degree turn on dotty at the start?

[fringe kettle]

screenshot esc menu and #420195388675588096 if abnormal pathing is observed.

[trim stream]

yea just watched a youtube clip, on PC dotty went straight, on PS it immediately goes up after leaving the cage lol

[dense scroll]

yeah. That going up is rough as heck on PS

[trim stream]

my friend and I just stood on the drill head part as to not fall off

[tulip idol]

Although, I played with team where our average rank was above 1000, we were like lvl800, lvl1100, lvl1200 and lvl1500 this edd

mb that's why

[trim stream]

first attempt on EDD dotty definitely threw our whole team into that pit of death lmao

[dense scroll]

first attempt, didnt even make it past the first room with EDD dotty

But just now, done the second objective, and kinda got screwed in the first room lmao

[jolly hazel]

I keep it at 10 with tuned cooler and thats like .5 seconds on grunts

[trim stream]

A friend and I two manned it last night and beat it, 3rd attempt overall, first two tries were with 4 and 3 players respectively

[dense scroll]

carry me

😂

[trim stream]

haha he carried my ass lmao

[jolly hazel]

if im in a situation where I can land ice spear on a big un that justifies using ice spear i usually have enough time to empty a subata clip lol

[dense scroll]

Damn lmao

[burnt pilot]

I need some deep dive action in my life

I have Driller and Gunner prestiged and am down for any team composition

[cursive lodge]

I was thinking about trying The elite dive solo. I imagine the escort part would suck by yourself huh?

[dense scroll]

sucks in general on ps

[cursive lodge]

You mean because of this week's layout?

[dense scroll]

just the escort is horrible. like a huge upward angle as soon as you start it

[merry kite]

Might be noob question.
But do you only get overcloxks once a week on a deep dive (each difficulty) ?

[feral pilot]

3 overclocks per deep dive and elite deep dive ( 1 blank, 1 weapon, 1 cosmetic) only get the cores completing the dives for first time

[merry kite]

That's what I thought thanks.

[cursive lodge]

Stage 2 drilldozer solo is brutal.

[open ledge]

Yeah, but it’s stage based so you got blank if you beat first stage, weapon does second and cosmetic for third stage

[sly raven]

Do daily beer effects persist through all stages?

[austere briar]

yes

[neat fulcrum]

is ther e gonna be full crossplay and cross progression

?

[jaunty thorn]

As per discussion in #suggestion-discussion I think the answer is no, due to the limited resources of the dev team

[neat fulcrum]

damn

[sly raven]

Wish I could drag our 4th who hasn't promoted yet into the DD this week

Looks really easy

[trail hound]

just went into edd blind

and :(

drilldozer hit me with the gawk gawk gunk twist combo 3 waves back to back as solo scout

and a bulk during the heartstone part where the meteors were falling down

on one armor segment left

[atomic prawn]

solo scout escort oof

[uncut oracle]

So why can't the driller, drill minerals like nitra or gold?

[honest basin]

That would be mining not drilling obvs

He's not the miner

[uncut oracle]

Oof

[cursive lodge]

What is the best strategy for not falling off the drill dozer in stage 2?

[bold maple]

EDD beaten! Thanks to diseasedCow for popping in with cryo driller and leading us to victory by coordinating us

Had a couple slightly tight spots but it went pretty well. It was down to the last 2 or 3 resupply cartridges

[unkempt saffron]

Dont stay on it unless it needs repairs

[violet warren]

But doesn't standing on the dozer let you fire over teammates on the ground?

[cursive lodge]

Man just had a great group. We tried 5 times. Went to shit at some point during stage 2 everytime. We got the core thing once but the last shell explosion killed our last remaining player I think we would have had it.

[cursive lodge]

I was primarily trying to figure out that first room where the dozer goes up at 85° angle. You can't really be off the dozer or you're stuck in that first room We had the best luck with everybody standing towards the front almost on the drill bit.

[tulip idol]

Move freely, kite and shoot. I'd say only engineer with fat boy can stand afk on dotty, pop mines and shoot nukes time to time. But hyperprop is better this edd so everyone has to put effort into killing stuff. Although, I'm pretty sure good driller/gunner can handle escort waves alone, many times I've seen others staying afk on Dotty cause I was literally killing all the bugs for them.

[glossy walrus]

I found standing between the drill and doretta's head had the best success rate for staying on

on our clear run the gunner dropped a zipline in that room after we came back from the predrill clear out, that helped I think

[wraith shard]

have failed EDD 2nd stage three times now 😦

[unreal halo]

is there a driller primary that'd work best for my first deep dive?

[summer wigeon]

Yes

All of them

You can do a deep dive with pretty much anything

[shut heron]

died to the twins at stage 3

sadge

[unkempt saffron]

If you play with teams then the cryo should work well, especially since theres 2 elim stages to take care of

[unreal halo]

Ah crap I should’ve specified I was playing solo

Cause I love cryo in groups

Was trying sludge pump for solo to deal with the dreadnaughts

[unkempt saffron]

Poop gun with sludge blast is probably the most solid damage dealer for driller

Would def work well on elims, though your main enemy would be your lack of ammo efficiency

[terse solar]

7th attempt at solo EDD this week, died at stage 2 again.
6/7 attempts I died at stage 2 lol.
I can consistently finish stage 1 with only 1 resupply, but stage 2 I always die to bulk, or swarmers (lethal swarmed is scary), or doretta (yeet me into the first cave).
One of the attempts I reached second stage of the heartstone, but can’t repair fast enough to out repair the falling rocks as well as a few stray bugs from last stage.
Any tips is appreciated. I’m on PS4. Maybe I should try to find a team, but I feel like if I can’t solo it I would just be a burden to my teammates.

For builds I don’t have many OC.
the most success I’ve had is with bullet hell gunner and ice storm cryo driller.
Scout feel too low on fire power to clear swarm fast enough on stage 2, and I don’t have any good OC on engineer.

[wraith shard]

Okay Glow, here's what I did

[cobalt flame]

@wraith shard 🐐

[hoary cove]

your driller is gonna need to be very good to freeze a dread with ice storm

even with cold radiance it can be a bit annoying

[terse solar]

I actually have a lot of trouble with that lol, I usually just end up spamming EPC/axe/C4 instead

Only using ice storm when I can’t see the butt

[hoary cove]

cryo is only really helpful if u manage to freeze the dread and spam axes

otherwise it’s as bad dps as flamer for dreads

[summer wigeon]

Hold on

I might do the edd with seeker rounds and nukes

[terse solar]

First stage isn’t really a concern for me, and I have no OC for flamer rn xd

[hoary cove]

the last stage has dreads too

2

[terse solar]

I figured ice storm is better at the second mission than a naked flame thrower

[hoary cove]

so 4 in total

[terse solar]

Honestly im not even thinking about the last mission, I just want my weapon OC lol

[hoary cove]

what’s ur ice storm build

[hoary cove]

you get an extra oc through mastery if u do all the deep dives and core hunts

[terse solar]

Ye I do them all and forge them all

[terse solar]

Don’t remember off the top of my head, lemme look at wiki and try to recall

31112

[hoary cove]

ye thats pretty solid

just gotta get close to let cold radiance freeze things

[terse solar]

Ye I try my best, tho dreadnaughts shrug off freeze so fast

Anytime I’m forced to maneuver the freeze status effect just goes poof

[hoary cove]

i think ur main problem is lack of single target dps/ burst damage. You don’t have a way to deal with bulks for the second mission

[terse solar]

U might be right. I don’t know how to axe cancel on controller

[hoary cove]

even axes canceling won’t make cryo that effective vs bulks

[terse solar]

I usually just send bosko and run away from my problems

Shoot some EPC normal shots from a distance and pray

[hoary cove]

if bulks show up make sure you stay away from the dozer. They only go after players

[terse solar]

Oh I didn’t know that. Thx for the tip

[hoary cove]

another thing to note is that dotty gets some invincibility when a part is repaired to 100%. Meaning if ur really desperate, one of you can kill the bulk while the other repairs the dozer back to full

it takes good time ing but it can work in a pinch

[summer wigeon]

But then the frags are the big problem

[terse solar]

Good idea. Probably won’t be useful since I’m set on solo’ing it

[summer wigeon]

It can work though

[hoary cove]

shudnt be enough to kill her if the part is full

[summer wigeon]

Let’s hope

[terse solar]

Btw is solo harder or easier than coop, if all player skills are even?

[hoary cove]

if u make it to the hearthstone with at least 2 parts, ur doing really well

[terse solar]

Because I’m under the assumption that it is easier or at least even.

[terse solar]

Only time I made it to heartstone is with no armor left xd

[hoary cove]

what part of the hearthstone did you lose?

[terse solar]

I wanna get used to solo’ing EDD so if I join a random team I won’t be dead weight

[hoary cove]

2 man teams tend to be fairly easy since the game starts scaling at 3 players

[terse solar]

The falling rock stage. I was stuck between repairing doretta or shooting rocks, with bugs still chewing the sides

In the end I couldn’t repair dotty fast enough to outpace the bugs and falling rocks

[terse solar]

I see I see. I guess I should grab someone from #lfg-playstation tmr and try again

[hoary cove]

ok 2 things for that.
One of you def needs good single target to handle those. Since ur driller, all u can do is throw axes and secondary.
Second thing is, you shud NEVER repair during rocks because you’ll usually die to the aoe

only exception is if u know the sweet spot where they can’t hit u

but even then it’s usually better to have everyone focus it down

[terse solar]

Ye I figured out the sweet spot from Haz 3 missions. Escort is actually one of my fav missions so I’ve done it a lot

[hoary cove]

it’s ok to do if ur desperate, but shooting them down is def more important

you’ll easily lose a side of ur not careful

[terse solar]

I’ve yet to reach heartstone on my gunner. I expect it to go smoother than driller if I do make it

@wraith shard still waiting on your follow up! No pressure tho, if it’s a bit too late in the hours. I’m always looking for tips and stuff

[wraith shard]

I went gunner with carpet bomber autocannon 32222 but I'm sure that weapon just built for splash minus the OC would still work
BRT no OC 13221
Autocannon was able to quickly delete and pushback swarms with the fear effect
brt was able to delete stuff that needed to die very quickly as well as do good damage to dreads
You know how to do mission 1 so I'll skip that
Mission 2 went like this
Gathered all the nitra in first room
Called resupply
Started dozer but stayed on the ground and cleared swarms, always keeping an eye out for acid spitters and mactera
Only repaired when it was needed and safe enough
Called a resupply in the refuel room Shot a zipline to get all the fuel up top for one tank
Ground level has enough for the other tank
Started dozer and fought my way to the next room doing the same method
Got to core room and cleared out everything
If a bulk shows up, get the hell away from the dozer and fight it off
It wants you, not the dozer
Started dozer
Prioritize mactera and absolutely keep an eye out for the acid spitters up high in the shadows
They ruin your life with the lethal modifier
Fight from the top of the dozer so you can rain down all that splash damage and fear procs
If a side of the dozer is getting too swarmed you can drop a shield there to keep the bugs from it while you tend to the other side
For the rocks, brt does a nice job but don't be afraid to let a part get destroyed if you need to
For the lasers, I totally ignored them and just fought and repaired through it when no threatening bugs were left
When it was all done I went back to gather the eggs
Its honestly pretty easy to fight since you have nothing to babysit and have very long tunnels to kite enemies back and forth through

Mission 3
Honestly, I didn't do anything special
I went in without enough nitra to even resupply at the start and easily found enough for two drops
I took my time and got all the morkite first
Cleared any obstacles that might get in the way during a fight as well as killing everything around, including cave leeches
Set up some zips for easy access and escape if things got bad
The dreads are hiveguard and the twins
You know how to take these down
If you clear out the whole cave you have a lot of places to run away if need be
You should have a bunch of ammo in the drops at this point so don't be afraid to use everything you have, even if it means leaning hard on brt since the damage is great
Sorry for the wall of text but that's pretty much exactly how it went, more or less
One more thing, don't be afraid to use shields liberally, especially in mission 3 during the dreads

Sorry I had to break it up lol

Oh damn I forgot something
Rich atmosphere is a huge help in mission 3
Let's you run away like a baby so easily as well as let you make riskier moves when nailing a weak point
I won't recommend being risky even if it worked lol

[hoary cove]

last stage is easy sauce

[wraith shard]

It really was

It was almost relaxing in comparison

[terse solar]

I see I see. I didn’t know the refueling room had enough oil for 2 batteries

[hoary cove]

my friends and i did both of the dreads at the same time for fun

[terse solar]

I always ran back to the starting room for one of the batteries and that took too much time I think

Also, question about what happens after u start doretta

Do I follow it or just stay in the cage room, or the first room it drills into?

[hoary cove]

stay with her

[terse solar]

I tried following it once but there’s no ground to stand on to chase it, I have to awkwardly climb a cliff like some mountain goat and that’s not easy with a swarm on my ass

And many runs were ended because I tried staying on her and getting yeeted

[hoary cove]

oh ye i forgot it does that weird movement on playstation

[terse solar]

I think a big reason I reached heartstone on driller is because I can driller my own path to follow her when needed

On gunner if I got yeeted, I either futilely chase her and die trying (either by zip line or by climbing the cliffs), or kite and kill swarm first but then doretta dies

[wraith shard]

Sorry, just catching up on messages
I stayed with her on the ground until that crazy incline ended
Up top felt like a death sentence for me since you have no headroom and the bugs can melee you from the ceiling

[terse solar]

I see, I’ll probably dig ahead and setup some zip lines for maximum safety

[tulip idol]

You can speedclimb zips fyi

[wraith shard]

I didn't actually use any zips on mission 2 except to get the fuel but by all means do what's best for you
Tbh I probably should have for the egg swarms but I just wasn't thinking

[terse solar]

Wat, how

[tulip idol]

Lemme find the link on mobile

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2598015765&searchtext=Traversal

[trail bone]

I’m interested in that too

Climbing is always so slow

[tulip idol]

That's my guide

[terse solar]

Thx!

[tulip idol]

Probably it would be better to link AxisKronos video but I believe my guide will be more useful to you

https://youtu.be/Bumz8fqMlFk

There you go

[terse solar]

Speedclimb looks hard to execute on controller, but worth trying. Thx!

[wraith shard]

Ya know, I thought about trying this but kept forgetting every time I was on
Glad to know it actually works and is worth doing

[meager wyvern]

I need to try, but doesn't seem like. They said same thing about reload cancel

[wraith shard]

If you play bumper jumper it's a lot smoother but standard controls are still doable

[meager wyvern]

I play ps5 controller

[wraith shard]

I just meant like if you set L1 to jump
A lot of FPS have a scheme for that now and it's very nice for people that wanna jump, shoot, and aim at the same time

[meager wyvern]

Um, so does any one have any godtier tips how to face dreads with cryo driller. My duomate is always on zipline and I am stuck running with it. So sometimes I do well and sometimes I die too much.

I feel like I do all I can it just gets hard I freeze throw axe or few then repeat and might die because it follows me

[meager wyvern]

I see

But I guess there isn't much I can do

[hushed gyro]

i've not done a deep dive before
where would i go to find a group to play it with
(other than the in game match browser)

[wraith shard]

The lfg channel for your platform

[upbeat obsidian]

@wraith shard stage 2 was Dozer and Eggs with Lethal Enemies and Dotty drills through the first egg, summoning a swarm, and no space in the first two caves to even think

[wraith shard]

oh

right

i guess that might be quite bad with randoms

[upbeat obsidian]

It's a very tight stage with even good randoms

[wraith shard]

also i think i just dug through the wall and got the egg before starting the drill

i guess i got lucky

[upbeat obsidian]

Easier if you do that, still can be hard even if you do 😬

[meager wyvern]

also detonator spawning cherry on top

[wraith shard]

i get the feeling that only playing duos with my brother makes this game a lot easier

good comms and no greenbeards

[burnt sandal]

kinda

but that's not a big deal

[pine sapphire]

Sometimes extra ammo for y’all makes it easier.

[wraith shard]

What is needed for elite deep dives? Just unlocked Lethal and I'm lookin to get an extra blank core.

[vocal compass]

completing at least 1 deep dive

[wraith shard]

Check. Are elites so constraint that I need to bring in specific builds or do they allow wiggle room?

[ebon anchor]

Thank you for this been wondering how people do it

[burnt sandal]

you can bring anything you want
nothing in the game doesn't allow for wiggle room, the only real limitation is your own skill

[wraith shard]

🤔 any advice for elites, then?

[vocal compass]

be scout

[wraith shard]

Noted

[wraith shard]

teamwork makes the dream work

[jolly hazel]

stay moving during fights and try to keep a mental image of where you are fighting so you don't get backed into a corner

not as big of a deal this week since is static escort defense and dreadnoughts

this week is more how good you are at killing shit

[jolly hazel]

if u just unlocked lethal id reccomend playing a few haz 5 matches

so u know what u are in for

[thorn patio]

GOT IT DONE LADS

engi solo

Had like 20% on the final bar of health for the dozer

[jolly hazel]

grats

[meager wyvern]

Has any one done this weeks edd solo without bosco?

[jolly hazel]

probably

lots of really good players

[undone comet]

EDD solo finally done! Rock and Stone!
Gunner NTP still STRONK

couldn't have done it without bosco though ^^ too good on ommoran

[thorn patio]

Yeah bosco is mvp

[bright cradle]

tips for second stage? most brutal drilldozer stage i've seen in almost a year

[jolly hazel]

drilldozer goes thru second egg, you can try to pre drill to not get stuck with double swarm

other than that, have driller watch dozer, engie put up plats at stops for scout to quickly grab minerals and gunner puts up ziplines for oil shale

ideally only have to deal with one swarm while dozer is stopped

at the hearthstone have engineer make a platform cover over the drilldozer about 2 dwarf heights above the dozer and he spams them as holes open up to close them

if bulks spawn, the person being chased has to identify themselves and run away so the bulk does not go near the dozer

alternatively have scout or driller freeze it before it blows

we didn't get a detonator at all so its rng

other than that bring aoe and kill bugs quickly so u don't get overwhelmed

scout should focus on mining whenever there's a chance to in order to save time

as in when a cave opens up that you won't stop at

[trail thicket]

Looking for Deep Dive stage 3, it’s really not too hard just need a team.

[jolly hazel]

#lfg-steam

[jovial flare]

any good strategy 2 beat elite dives on playstation? dont realy have any special cores yet..

[jolly hazel]

elite hives as in

hivevguard dreadnought?

[jovial flare]

i meant dives lol

[jolly hazel]

oh

[jolly hazel]

this is for the second stage

read this for dreadnoughts

stage 1 dreads can be fought where they spawn i believe

stage 3 dreads should be kited back to spawn

[jovial flare]

we immidietly got wiped on second stage, got rubberbanded off the doozer into the swarm and into a hive and seperated from my team and the doozer was flying so the zipline angle 2 get 2 my team was 2 steep lol... it was hellish

[jolly hazel]

what do u mean hive

the eggs?

[jovial flare]

the hive that spawns enemies

[jolly hazel]

oh a spawner

big pulsing thing with eyes?

[jovial flare]

yeah

[jolly hazel]

yeah try ur best to ride the dozer

if u go down its probably best for the team to leave u

until the dozer stops

[jovial flare]

yeah or just drill there and take care of hive befor starting the doozer

[tardy saffron]

Is anyone a driller player?

[hoary cove]

ye

[tardy saffron]

I'm trying to so elite deep dives with mine get to the second floor and die any loadout recommendation. I'm not very stocked in the overclock department

[hoary cove]

any of his primaries work, but id recommend cryo or goo due to the amount of dreads

if u bring cryo, make sure you take cold radiance and axes

goo on the other hand does good damage vs hordes and can slow bulks to a crawl

[jolly hazel]

goo goo ga ga

cryo would probably be best solo in case of funny mactera swarm

[jolly hazel]

have scout shoot it or gunner freeze it or something, spawners arent really that big of a deal compared to breeders or spitballers tbh

[night kindle]

damn this week's edd is one of the hardest in a long time

usually were able to steamroll through them

[jolly hazel]

I still think the salt pits one with the 5 spitballer rumpus room was the worst

[night kindle]

Rather inexperienced teammates probably were part of the reason we lost but I don't blame them

[tacit marsh]

I keep wiping on the escort mission in this weeks EDD, definitely tough

[junior viper]

Anyone know how many stops is the escort on the edd this week? Is it one fuel stop or 2?? Thx

[unkempt saffron]

just one

[hoary cove]

you mean the one with the hiveguard at the start?

[junior viper]

Ok thx

[jolly hazel]

always one

[jolly hazel]

yes

only one I've wiped multiple times to

[hoary cove]

that was before napalm got nerfed, so i just used that with VB to one shot all of them

good times

[jolly hazel]

idk it seemed like there was at least 50 bugs in there to begin with

and then funny Roly polies at the bottom

[spark mason]

uwu

[wary grove]

what is the hazard range for regular deep dives? 3 -> 4?

i swear this weeks was too easy

[hoary cove]

3, 3.5, 3.5

all dds are easy once ur experienced

[wary grove]

well, my friend group hasnt touched haz 5 yet, but it does seem we are ready then

[wary grove]

you mean 3, 3.5, 4?

[hoary cove]

no

[wary grove]

oh i see

each stage

gotcha

[hoary cove]

ye

never reaches 4

[jolly hazel]

edd is

4.5/5/5.5

[placid basalt]

oh sorry wrong channel

[rugged bronze]

phew, that was a crazy edd this week. we had six bulks over the first two missions as a three man and made it past the escort with dottie on 4%.

[glacial portal]

just finished the current EDD
what the hell was that

[unreal halo]

about to try and solo my first deep dive again after a few failed runs yesterday.

[dense scroll]

PC apparently have it much harder than PS

[unreal halo]

What option do yall recommend for sludge pump on the 5th perk?

I mainly use the slowdown, sometimes the armor melting, but no clue if the corrosive damage buff is worth or not

[open ledge]

That actually makes sense, cause some ps people were doing the edd and saying it wasn’t too hard

Meanwhile I’ve been dying on it lol

[dense scroll]

Oh wait

I meant PS have it harder

the EDD, it has like a 65% incline before the first room which is devastating

[trim stream]

PS has the crazy dotty incline, but I think PC has the double swarm if they don't drill for eggs in stage 2

[dense scroll]

Oof, both are kinda rough. Double swarm does sound a lot harder

[open ledge]

Damn, well it is an edd so not matter what it’s hard

[dense scroll]

true, haha

[old widget]

For EDD, slowdown is pretty useful for keeping bugs out of your face. If you don’t need the safety net, corrosive damage. Armor breaking too niche IMO

[neon grotto]

Hey guys, new player here, I'm a driller main and I'd like to know what's a good build for the flamethrower? I'm currently running 1-1-3 (My driller is level 9 currently)

[jolly hazel]

id also reccomemd slowdown goo gun due to the presence of 4 dreads

[jolly hazel]

try asking in #drg-chat , this channel is for deep dive content which is only available to promoted dwarves

[neon grotto]

Oh ok

[hoary cove]

the armor break one is pretty useless

[novel kestrel]

Feeling somewhat comfortable with all the different weapons and classes now, does anyone have tips so I can roll into needed classes better? I struggle hard to get utility from driller outside of cryo cannon, can't find any use for the default scout weapon, and find it difficult to use satchel or the nuke grenade without just getting in someone's way so far

I think I got most of how their movement tools work, but feel I'm still missing a lot of nuance the classes can all offer. Like gunner feels useless on his own with how low movement is for nitra/other collection

[rancid pulsar]

need 1 for psn

pls&ty

[hoary cove]

flamer and goo are great for clearing grunt swarms

[novel kestrel]

Yeah, but the cryo clears swarms super well and has the added utility that freezing offers. I find it hard to justify changing off giving everyone free crits/stun

[sly raven]

Really straightforward DD this week

[hoary cove]

flamer deals with swarms way faster then cryo cannon, which is way more noticeable on haz5. It also gets extra dmg vs a lot of enemy types and is by far the best weapon for killing robots

[hardy nacelle]

cryo is for a decent team, flamer for killing

[novel kestrel]

Oh nice, I didn't think bots got bonuses from elemental. I've only just started getting taking on haz5 comfortably, so the hoard clear felt fairly similar on haz4

[hardy nacelle]

robots die instantly to being set on fire

[hoary cove]

bots don’t take extra fire dmg, they instantly die when set on fire

big difference cus it means you can insta kill them with a heat build

[novel kestrel]

Nice! So cryo and flame both have instakills they can get off. So does the sludgepump fit into a point defense type roll then or just something between the other two

[hoary cove]

sludge pump has amazing slow and combos really well with fire since you can set the puddles on fire for high damage

[hardy nacelle]

you can get three DoT's with sludge

direct impact melt, sticky goo DoT, and flaming sludge

and with neurotoxin nades you can get 4

[hoary cove]

the puddle dot and direct dot stack

[hardy nacelle]

yep

[rancid pulsar]

Should I not try to run a Deep Dive with randos?

[novel kestrel]

Deep dive random has worked fine for me

[rancid pulsar]

do they talk?

cooperate even if not talking?

[novel kestrel]

Cooperate yes. Never had people not at least ping what they want, and most of the time text chat is used for coordinating side objectives and ammo levels.

The uncooperative ones have usually been leavers for me so someone dipping mid run is a risk

This is PC though so comms might be quieter on console without text chat. Dunno how the ecosystem is there

[fierce bobcat]

cryo driller playstyle doesn't really translate to other weapons either

The freeze cryo, anyway

[old widget]

You’ll probably have better luck in the future in #lfg-playstation

[pseudo kindle]

trynna do an edd in pod 1

[rancid pulsar]

you didn't see me there?

[jolly hazel]

it was a suggestion

[glossy walrus]

also have to be aware that pc has far more veteran players whereas the game is new on ps, so you're more likely to get newbies

this is fine for DD since that's not that hard to solo carry, but it's rough going on EDD where even one bad/uncooperative/etc player can drag you down a lot while scaling things up (and/or making you lose bosco)

[old widget]

More of a gentle request to not spam the wrong channels with invites 😉

[tropic leaf]

damn, i lucked out stage 3

hiveguard was bugged so no enemies spawned, got all the morkite and dug to the next egg in the meantime

[devout socket]

The second mission of this week's EDD is probably the least enjoyable experience I've had with DRG.

[open ledge]

Every drill dozer I swear is hard, especially when it’s stage 2 or 3

[trim tree]

I second that

[tropic leaf]

doesnt help that nitra was kinda scarce

[hoary cove]

i think i went into the second mission with 2 resupplies

not bad tbh

[open ledge]

Haz 5 drill dozer hits different

[ripe shard]

LF 2 players for EDD! We have an engineer and scout, so a gunner and driller would be ideal! Please have a mic to communicate! We on PS4

Rock & Stone! ⛏

[open ledge]

Try #lfg-steam people will be lfg there

It do be the dedicated channel and you’ll have better luck finding a team

[unkempt saffron]

The toughest part of any escort is just getting to the hearthstone really, once youve got that handled then everything else is like a standard defend mission

[hoary cove]

it’s not the fact it’s haz 5, it’s that it’s lethal enemies with swarmers and bulks. Besides from that it wasn’t too bad. Iv done it twice so far

[open ledge]

I did it twice failed twice

The second time we almost won

But lost while trying to reach drop pod

The easier part

[hoary cove]

strange

[open ledge]

I mean

I know why

[unkempt saffron]

It happens

[hoary cove]

friendly fire?

[terse solar]

Unfortunate

[open ledge]

We kinda split up and someone thought the drill dozer head was a necessity, and I the scout got hit trying to get away (I’ll blame it on ping 😉 )

[terse solar]

Does lethal enemy also do more damage to doretta?

[open ledge]

It coulda been ping or just my timing

Or both

[terse solar]

EDD is the only situation where I would ignore doretta head

[open ledge]

Ik

I didn’t realize until too late

Still

Goated team

Cant diss

[terse solar]

I finished the EDD today with a friend I found in #lfg-playstation

Duo is much easier

[open ledge]

What classes you guys use?

[terse solar]

He was playing on 200-400ms ping and still did very well lol

I used bullet hell gunner, he was engineer with a railgun

I don’t know his primary OC or if he had one, it’s the shotgun

[open ledge]

Cool

Engi gunner do sound elite

[terse solar]

he died due to ping a few times, like died in mid air when it doesn’t look like anything hit him

[unkempt saffron]

That really depends on the player

[terse solar]

Apparently on his screen he got bounced into the ground sometimes

[terse solar]

True. My experience so far is very good. I handled most swarms and he deletes high threat targets with the railgun

[hoary cove]

yep, told ya duos is a lot easier due to scaling. Def try to find 1 solid player if u struggle with an edd

[terse solar]

We also got lucky, didn’t get bulk detonator spawn in stage two. I also over performed by a lot. Didn’t die a single time for the first two stages

It’s like I unlocked something deep inside me xd

[hoary cove]

oh dude thats great, congrats

[terse solar]

Thx man. It was cathartic, after all the time I tried to solo this EDD

Super enjoyable game. Shout out to my duo bentosone

[hoary cove]

I also went engi with hyper propellant the first time i did the edd

except i used stubby with it

[terse solar]

How good is the stubby, I actually never tried it

[unkempt saffron]

Its very good for cc

[hoary cove]

good crowd control with the electricity

[unkempt saffron]

Like a machine gun stun gun

[hoary cove]

decent dmg and range

[terse solar]

I see. I should give it a try I guess

[timid ferry]

ironically good for ammo conservation, im a lil weird and like turret arc

[unkempt saffron]

It isnt that ironic, you easily have enough ammo to deal with multiple swarms

[balmy axle]

most ammo efficient engineer primary

the smartgun is for deleting big mobs, and the shotgun... is for turret whip

you don't really need swarm clear on the class with an arc cutter, but it definitely does that

[unkempt saffron]

ECR lok1 can deal with swarms

And the shotty is usually better for hvts

[balmy axle]

i'm talking "ideally"

[open ledge]

Executioner can 3 burst a Praet

[balmy axle]

smartgun needs to be built kind of weird to work vs swarms and you already have the best fire and forget swarm clearing

[open ledge]

And an oppressor too if you get lucky I believe

[balmy axle]

or you can just take exe smartgun and delete everything that isn't a grunt and let the cryo cannon driller do his main job

it's almost like a scout weapon in that respect

just with even worse total damage

[unkempt saffron]

Well, thats why ECR exists for lok1 swarm clear capabilities

1 explosion and a bunch of swarmers or naedocytes are wiped

[open ledge]

Engi can kinda do it all

He has a mod for everything

[unkempt saffron]

So can every other class

[open ledge]

Plus those turrets with repellent additive for choke points

True, but I do find I can deal with any threat comfortably with a general build with engi than any other class

[balmy axle]

engineer can do everything at least badly

platforms can do anything grapple can do, just way slower

even zipline can't do that with steep enough drops

[hoary cove]

well anything is better then zip ngl

[pine sapphire]

Zip too damn slow and potential fall.

[balmy axle]

^ someone who has never had point extract where 3 aquarqs were a sheer cliff off of the refinery

[open ledge]

When the tri jaw comes in lol

[pine sapphire]

Gunner on his own zip should be faster and not prone to falling or fall after few shots not a tickle

[balmy axle]

it's ridiculous that even with the speed boost mod it's still so damn slow, though

[hoary cove]

that’s like the most common PE mission layout. I’d rather drill to it still

zip line is always last resort

[balmy axle]

and you have to sadistically choose between either "slightly less comically slow" and "slightly less likely to instantly die when you get goo'd off your zip"

[hoary cove]

drills aren’t slow at all

[balmy axle]

no, i mean the zip

for the tier 3 upgrade

[hoary cove]

why wud anyone ever not take the movement speed

i wudnt even use zips without that mod

[balmy axle]

exactly

so the fall damage resist even existing is a cruel joke

[open ledge]

Yep

[wraith shard]

I don't take movement speed because it barely makes a difference

[balmy axle]

because if you take it your zip is no longer worth using

[open ledge]

If you fall from the zip your screwed anyways so the fall damage resistance seems pointless

[unkempt saffron]

Just hold E

[hardy nacelle]

fall damage resist should be a mandatory t2 perk like the other equipment

[balmy axle]

ok but consider

30 meter range zipline

still not good

[hoary cove]

zip line is already way slower then the other traversal tools, so not taking that mod makes going up one feel even more pointless

[novel igloo]

in the past there was an upgrade for the zipline that made you go fast

[wraith shard]

That extra 75 to the base 250 just feels so bad to me, especially with how you can just use that method to go up it faster
Being able to hang and shoot without having to worry about fall damage as much is more useful to me

[balmy axle]

zipline when going downwards, though

[wraith shard]

I guess for me it's a just in case thing though
Now I do try to jump and regrab if I think I might get hit by something I wasn't fully ready for

[balmy axle]

90% of the time it's some random menace five miles way arcing a shot through three caves to hit you in the back

[cerulean lichen]

fall dmg>move speed

my preference, everyone has his/her own preference, there is no point in arguing tbf

[hoary cove]

all i’m saying is, if i notice the gunners zip line doesn’t have the move speed upgrade, I’d rather throw myself off a cliff then use it

[cerulean lichen]

zipline is better at other things, than being used as a tool to go up a steep slope or watever

literally every other class can get you to a high unreachable point faster than the zipline

[unkempt saffron]

I prefer to think of ziplines as a combat utility rather than a traversal one, staying in mid air has its perks

[upbeat obsidian]

Using zips for traversal: take move speed
Using zips to hang out and defend an area from above: take fall protection, but only so you don't have to tap E as often

[vocal saddle]

Why take fall protection just get engie to put a few platforms below

[cursive lodge]

Wow. Just finished the edd with randos. Felt like a miracle.

[vocal saddle]

That’s crazy don’t think I could’ve done that

[cursive lodge]

I'm level 60. Next highest level was 28. I'm shocked really.

[vocal saddle]

Wtf

You must be really good

[cursive lodge]

Everyone did really good. Stage one and three were pretty easy. They almost screwed around too long on stage 3 and put us in an ammo bind. Stage 2 we drilled all the way into the second room before starting the dozer. Waited until after we got the hearthstone then did both the eggs quickly at the same time and bounced.

[vernal willow]

I always do the EDD with randos, cause I have no friends that play :O

[summer wigeon]

The game is on sale currently, make them play

[vocal saddle]

No way so your dozer didn’t go through the eggs?

That’s what happened to me so I opted to do eggs first

[vocal saddle]

Problem isn’t the price. Problem is they just won’t play

[summer wigeon]

That kind of sucks

[twin iris]

I have the same problem, most of my friends have the game, none of them like it as much as i do tho.

[vernal willow]

It does

[cursive lodge]

I'm on PS4. Someone said earlier that the dozer hitting the second egg only happens on pc

[vocal saddle]

That is so bs

Nah I got the first egg. Maybe the dozer doesn’t take the exact same path all the time

[trim stream]

Dozer also doesn't take a huge turn upwards on PC right out the gate.. guess the console version and PC version have slight differences.. or at least on PS idk about xbox

[burnt sandal]

they do, actually

Cave generation is different

which can leads to different path for the dozer, obviously

[trim stream]

I figured, just couldn't speak for Xbox lol

[burnt sandal]

Dunno about differences between PS and microsoft versions but I assume they are similar, exception made for the networking ofc

and more technical stuff

but cave generation should be similar

[cursive lodge]

On ps the dozer goes upward at an 80° angle. Usually knocks just about everybody off the dozer. On PC the dozer hits the second egg causing a double swarm. Aside from that maybe the layout is similar.

Nuking the twins with a detonator is great fun btw. Saves a ton of ammo too.

[trim stream]

Did that on my clear of this week's EDD.. was epic

[cursive lodge]

The second time we did it we insta killed one of the twins and took about 25% of the health of the other one

[trim stream]

Oh they both died when me and my friend did it

[cursive lodge]

Nice

[trim stream]

Ez win

[cursive lodge]

If you use the detonator on the other Juggernaut it just takes a shield down doesn't do any damage

[trim stream]

Oh really? I was curious if it would kill the glyphid one

Wonder if it would kill hiveguard

[cursive lodge]

That's what it did for us. Only tried it once. 2 died in the blast and shield went back up without doing any damage.

[burnt sandal]

it would, as long as he is in his health phase

[trim stream]

So you'd have to kill the babies, break his ears, and then kill the det.. sounds risky lol

[meager wyvern]

I have terrible time with the dreads with cryo gun in duo should I just keep going or switch to engineer or scout

[trim stream]

What's your friend running? On a haz 4 the other day I was engi with my friend on cryo driller, had my turrets up and my lok1 fully locked on one of the twins, when he froze it I let go and between my turrets/lok1 blast destroyed like 35-45% of it's health bar(of course the twins healed immediately afterwards but it was fun lol)

[meager wyvern]

Gunner we have had some issues with mission. It is hard to freeze them as they free so fast then I am also not great with epc

first time we tried the 1st mission we needed only one resupply and now it keeps getting worse and worse as we try

dunno if I should give up on cold radiance

my only overclock is flor rate expansion

[trim stream]

Maybe take a short break? Frustration is a thing, or yeah switch it up, why not

[meager wyvern]

We gave up for today but yeah can see how frustration makes it go worse. I feel like I had easier time with 2nd mission than dreads

[trim stream]

Oh also try practicing animation cancelling axe throws

I think if you do it right you can hit the dread with 2-3 axes during the freeze

Lots of dmg(though I will admit driller is my least played/favored class)

[meager wyvern]

Best I can manage is 2 axe throw as I also have to watch for explosion

I could try engi but easier to manage ammo with driller

[trim stream]

Play what you like man, and watch next time y'all are gonna smash it cause you're cool headed and have the experience

[meager wyvern]

I guess I'll try driller easier to deal with swarms. Thanks man for the cheer up we will try tomorrow again 6 hours before the reset I hope it goes well

[meager ridge]

Oh man

stage 2 took us for a ride

[river rover]

This weeks EDD stage 2 has shaken off any illusions I might have previously held about being a greybeard

[meager ridge]

barely got stage 1 done, and then just got murdered as soon as doretta broke through the first wall

[meager wyvern]

Drill to the next room kill enemies get egg

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[jade gorge]

sooo, new to the discord and been playin for 2 weeks.... this EDD is a harder one yeah?

[vocal saddle]

Yeap

[jade gorge]

Im gettin slammed so much and havent been able to clear it yet

ok sick sick. Obvs get good... I'm really liking the difficulty

[vocal saddle]

I think this week stage 2 was abnormally tough to get through

Usually it’s not too difficult that people go as far to claim it’s easier than regular haz 5

[jade gorge]

who else got sucka punched by that spitter in the pit and the rollypolly on stage 2 getting egg XD

so much tragedy in that room

[vocal saddle]

Haha

Pain

[vocal compass]

yey

[vocal saddle]

I wonder if the devs have someone keep an eye on EDD each week or is it truly just RNG each week

Like yeap we gonna chuck Rolly Polly’s and some bull dets

[meager wyvern]

Can't be completely random this one is sinister

[vocal saddle]

Haha exactly

[lean mason]

I definitely think they intentionally look for wacky terrain and stuff

[jolly hazel]

wiki says its non-curated rng

but a lot of weird shit has happened

like super rare mushroom, hiveguard egg getting popped by minehead, huge cave with a bunch of DNA helixes (i think it was a deep dive), and this week's start in azure wealed low grav hole

[balmy axle]

i mean

[jolly hazel]

but there's like 6 missions per week

[balmy axle]

i outright don't believe it's not curated

[jolly hazel]

occams razor says

its just rng

[balmy axle]

you wouldn't see doretta popping an egg out every damn time if it wasn't

[jolly hazel]

this is the first time I've seen it

[balmy axle]

have you ever seen an escort + eggs mission without the meme?

it's like

[jolly hazel]

yes

[open ledge]

I don’t know if they can make a cave

Each week

[balmy axle]

the probability is huge compared to what it should objectively be

[jolly hazel]

the combination is not available without dual main objectives and eggs will almost always spawn in a wall

and where does dortts dig through?

its bound to happen with the combo at some point

[jolly hazel]

they can just run the rng generator until they find one they like

[open ledge]

That makes sense

[jolly hazel]

the levels are certainly not hand crafted

way too much effort

[open ledge]

You would be able to tell

[balmy axle]

the, uh... ommoran crystal?

[open ledge]

It wouldn’t look like the rest

[jolly hazel]

eh

just need the cave gen smoothing tool

if anyone is playing driller and having trouble with stage 2

try slowing sticky flames build

just make a big circle in doretta tunnels and the bugs cannot get past it

u give up some dread utility but the slow helps

[unkempt saffron]

Or just use cryo or the pooper

Youll lack the lethality of sticky flames but it still does cc wonders

And on the plus side, youll be useful for those 2 elim stages

[meager wyvern]

I feel like cryo is crazy for swarms in there

[unkempt saffron]

Every driller primary works well against swarms, its his modus operandi after all

[meager wyvern]

My biggest issue with driller is not stage 2 it is dreads but I guess I need to git gud

[unkempt saffron]

Are you playing solo?

[meager wyvern]

yes and duo

I kinda felt like I had easier time solo with them

[unkempt saffron]

Drillers primaries work well in supporting dread fights, not necessarily in dealing damage to them

[meager wyvern]

I told my friend to come to the floor with me from the damn zipline so tomorrow we clear the whole

It is kinda rough running with the dread

[unkempt saffron]

With the exception of certain OCs, your driller primaries should be used to slow dreads down, or weaken them so that theyre vulnerable for short burst attacks

[meager wyvern]

they unfreeze so fast

[unkempt saffron]

They do, but theres enough time to deal reliable damage to them, especially with axes

[meager wyvern]

my only overclock is flow rate

[unkempt saffron]

Or if another teammate steps in and takes advantage of that opening

[meager wyvern]

best I can do is 2 axes in row but sometimes I fail it. well I have done 3 but with dread it is risky to try more than 2

also I suck with epc

[wraith shard]

I just distract while my team breaks the armor on the dreadnought then I grapple behind and m1100 half of its health bar

[meager wyvern]

I guess what is my ruin is the getting greedy with freezing but it takes ages to do it. Does it help if I put it more on the floor/feet?

[unkempt saffron]

Unless you like freezing floors and wasting ammo then sure

[meager wyvern]

I just saw someone claiming in reddit it helps but did not try it

[unkempt saffron]

Just try staying close to the dread so that cold radiance kicks in and freezes it quicker, but dont get too frisky with it

[meager wyvern]

I tried this with random full group 26 total downs for the first mission was kinda funny. Managed to kill the dreads for the team though haha

26 for whole team

[jolly hazel]

well everyone seems to be having problems with stage 2 lol

I swear 70% of cryo drillers down at least once in dread stages

its almost a given

when I hear the stomp

red name pops up lol

[old widget]

Greedy for that sweet freeze

[unkempt saffron]

The hardships of freezing a dread with cryo

But its really only an issue with the classic dread, and maybe the hiveguard if you cant dodge those rocks quickly

[jolly hazel]

I feel like they just stand in front of the rocks

lol

[delicate storm]

Hivemom with Sticky Flames Driller is slowwwwwww... Those weakspots are just outside floor burn range. 😭

Everything easy but her, that was a long fight.

[spiral panther]

When does the next DD start?

[delicate storm]

tomorrow, about 20hrs

[night kindle]

5 EDD attempts

last one died on last stage of heartstone

we got overpowered and bulk spawned

[mellow cove]

1 EDD attempt solo, successful

Second stage is a bit hard but that's just a regular haz 5 lethal, nothing extraordinary

Cave gen on escort is pretty easy actually, refueling is easily doable before swarm

[tacit marsh]

I’m at 5 EDD attempts or so too

Escort kicking my ass

[hollow arrow]

This EDD is so hard

Failed 4 times now

[jolly hazel]

simply shoot the bugs

[wraith shard]

@hollow arrow @tacit marsh play solo edd

[wanton palm]

Hey

[jolly hazel]

hi

[maiden slate]

I need help with Edd. Have been losing on last part of stage 2 am a lvl 130 and play gunner and my friend is around 120 and can play gunner too or driller.

Maybe go dbl gunner.... dunno.

[jolly hazel]

try a #lfg channel

engie platforms help deal with rock phase

platforms block rocks but take damage

[maiden slate]

It's been the last wave with the femurs thats killing us... 4 times now. Lol

[glossy walrus]

if he isn't already, might try having your friend go to a sticky flame build to give you more time to deal with other stuff while things are burning to death

I found it extremely useful on this edd

ring of fire around doretta does wonders

[torn edge]

i lost count How many times I failed second cave

[jolly hazel]

femurs?

oh beamers

beamers dont actually do that much dps

[hoary cove]

i’d say goo is probably better due to the amount of dreads

[jolly hazel]

sticky flame slowdown isn't that bad

plus gunner can bring volatile bullets?

without sacrificing autocannon

[hoary cove]

that won’t be that good for dreads

[jolly hazel]

goo has a higher skill floor but if they are good they should be good

[hoary cove]

nothing wrong with not using ac

[jolly hazel]

ehhh

on escort?

[hoary cove]

yes i do it all the time

[wispy oxide]

tips for this weeks EDD second stage it is the most brutal I have done in a yeat

[jolly hazel]

do you carry though

[jolly hazel]

I posted a few tips earlier, make sure engie is using platforms for rocks and consider drilling ahead

[hoary cove]

you can def bring any single target gunner primary to any mission if u bring it with magic bullets

it’s not hard to carry

[wispy oxide]

honestly we have yet to make it to turning on the drill at the heartstone

[hoary cove]

not too mention minelayer is busted and can easily carry escort

[wispy oxide]

4 bulks

and an insane amount of ranged and rollers

every time

[jolly hazel]

volatile bullets solves dread problem

[wispy oxide]

what is a good mine layer build

[jolly hazel]

why sacrifice swarm clear when its the main problem this edd

[hoary cove]

no it doesn’t

[jolly hazel]

everyone seems to be having problems with the bulks, and fire will help with that

wait not dread bulk lol

I read dread as I was typing

minelayer build is just aoe/ammo mods

I think the rocket velocity sucks so I take the velocity mod too

[hoary cove]

i took hyper the first time i tried this edd

[jolly hazel]

hyper?

engie?

[hoary cove]

yep

ye

[jolly hazel]

I'd consider that a liability lol

[hoary cove]

with em discharge

[jolly hazel]

dreads are basically a non issue to a competent team

tbh

[rough kite]

Not always, but when they are a problem there is usually a complication

[hoary cove]

hyper makes dreads and bulks easy to handle, while en discharge has enough ammo to deal with swarms by itself

[rough kite]

e.g. dread + ghost, dread + pe etc

[jolly hazel]

yes because there is an angry dreadnought chasing you

ya pe dread sucks

[hoary cove]

sure but that doesn’t mean i’m not bringing any single target to an edd with 4 dreads

[jolly hazel]

idk I guess thats relying on other classes to clear waves quick but if it works for you

stubby dps sucks without em refire

and you are giving up such a great tool with hyperpropellant

[hoary cove]

i still got the most kills with just em dicharge

[hoary cove]

def not

[jolly hazel]

damn ur team must have sucked lol

[hoary cove]

have u tried em discharge before?

[jolly hazel]

I forgot if stubby has blowthrough but you are still shooting one grunt at a time

em discharge is the turret one right?