deep-dive-discussion

[jolly hazel]

idk how it is the same cave gen but different statics

that's the exact same cave

[pearl trout]

Also there's a shit ton of flyers pre spawned

But that might be normal

Someone on the dev team hating on ps smh

[burnt sandal]

you can't post pictures in this channel, only link, that's why

[harsh ether]

i have a few questions about deep dive; 1. is voice comm pretty much required? 2. can i do one, even if i'm still very new to the game? i've been playing three days now, but ic an succesfully do solo missions at hazard lvl 3. and last, how long does a deep dive usually take?

[smoky gorge]

Yeap it is because the PS version is different but BET-C is really usefull so its nice to have it

[burnt sandal]

it is normal yes, it's not rare to have pre-spawned enemies in caves

[burnt sandal]

1. no
2. depends on your skill tbh (for the Elite Deep Dive, the normal one is easy). You have to be promoted to start with anyway so you'll always have a bit of experience in the game before you even tackle that challenge
3. About 45min usually but can take longer or shorter depending on how good you're doing

[smoky gorge]

@pearl trout tips to quicly kill BET-C ; use cryo bosco rocket on it you’ll do 3 times the damage for a short period of time

[harsh ether]

okay thank you my man! i have promotion on my engineer (been only playing him since i started), and i see a lot of people in this server in voice comm, so thats why i thought it was required. i guess it does make t hings easier to run?

[burnt sandal]

I guess it does but I have 1000 hours in the game, played 90% of that with randoms and never used voice comms to do DD and EDD and it's been fine all along ^^

I wasn't always winning but that's just how it is

[pearl trout]

Again, had no issue with betc the battery is fucking me up

I might try with a friend or tomorrow before it switches

[smoky gorge]

Battery ?

[pearl trout]

The 2nd part of getting the drop pod fixed

[burnt sandal]

2nd stage is salvage, they're probably talking about defending

[smoky gorge]

A fuel cells

[pearl trout]

That one

[smoky gorge]

Ah yes

Use your engi skill and create a good defense :p

[stuck swan]

Is it hard to have the game load a third deep dive because it would be nice if we could have more than one EDD a week

The DD’s are usually underwhelming and the EDD’s haven’t been too hard recently as well

Imagine a super EDD

[meager saffron]

"SEDD: Hazard 6: Fatal, all enemies nearly 1 shot; Rewards: Selectable Overclocks/Cosmetics per Class"

[pearl trout]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

Made it out of the 2nd mission

Betc was trolling my turret with the line of sight or something, didn't get her and the battery was more smooth

Any top for part 3?

Paused the game since solo

[old widget]

Don’t fall coming out of the drop pod

Look up

Shoot glowy bits

That’s about it for stage 3

[azure lance]

Question: 1.I did normal DD for the week, is there a point on doing it again? 2. How hard is EDD? I am comfortable on Haz 3 (honest question, I am new to the game). Thanks in advance!

[hard topaz]

What are people doing when I see them quickly mine with their pickaxe in these speed run videos?

[leaden cypress]

mining quickly

[burnt sandal]

Q-mining, it consists of cancelling the animation to save time. In DRG, it gives you about 3% faster mining. It's mosly useful to cancel the slow after a pickaxe attack on an enemy

[pearl trout]

Ok even with gliphids spawning that was the easiest mission of my life

And I played it insanity safe

[hard topaz]

Huh, okay

[pearl trout]

I'm not paranoid there is something funny on the 2nd mission on ps

Also to note!!!

There only 1 mini mule on the last one

[old widget]

ah, you're on PS, the cavegen is different

[pearl trout]

The cave is the same on pc

I saw ustepping video

And the cave is 1:1

[old widget]

interesting. that goes against everything I've heard/read

[pearl trout]

But spawns and even the mission on the last one is different

It's like it gets corrupted the further you go

[burnt sandal]

they have different cave gen sometimes

it's not always the case

[old widget]

ah, so some variation in the cavegen secret sauce then

[burnt sandal]

mostly happens when the cave is too big for consoles

[old widget]

makes sense

[burnt sandal]

some features simply aren't there in those versions, to keep performance somewhat stable

[pearl trout]

I'm on the ps5 version 😭

Don't be so mena

Mean"

[burnt sandal]

also dunno how playstation deals with that performance wise so it's also possible it's slightly better than the microsoft version too*

but I don't know about that, it's just a guess

[lunar helm]

EDD is about hazard 5, so try hazard 4 and 5 before doing the EDD I'd say. Also there is no point in redoing the same DD again twice because you won't get matrix cores.

[burnt sandal]

1. No, unless for fun/speedrun/to help people
2. About haz 5 in difficulty

[azure lance]

Thanks for the replies

[wraith shard]

is anyone running deep dives anymore?

I noticed

that there weren't really anyone on the rooms list

[old widget]

pretty late in the weekly cycle

resets in less than 48h

[wraith shard]

so usually after reset?

[old widget]

most active after reset, yeah

[wraith shard]

alrighty

[woeful scroll]

I'm down for DDE

[wraith shard]

not super confident in myself for DDE, i'll probably just return to doing normal stuff until reset

[violet sequoia]

i just tried a DDE and im pretty sure i hard threw
even though i've now forgotten all the details by now and im pretty sure my teammates could've all come down together if they so chose cuz the gunner set up a zipline but i guess they didn't so
pretty sure engi fell to his death but nonetheless, i will take the blame for hard throwing

[flint totem]

Gonna do my first deep dive

We have health insurance right?

[old widget]

if by health insurance you mean cloning vats a medbay and loss of credits you might have earned, sure!

[unkempt saffron]

You can definitely still find people running dd till the reset happens, you just gotta check them during peak times or alternatively you can host them and wait for people to join

[jolly hazel]

plus u get better hitreg if u host

[ashen veldt]

What's DDE?

[burnt sandal]

EDD is for elite deep dive

[ashen veldt]

Oh so DDE = EDD?

[burnt sandal]

yes

[ashen veldt]

ahh makes sense lol

[leaden sluice]

is the discord teams community boards broken?

[burnt sandal]

yes

[leaden sluice]

darn was following the fix guide that was pinned in the discord

it said to try to rejoin so i did lost all my existing rolls 😞

[burnt sandal]

you can just pick them back for now

you'll be able to rejoin the union once it's fixed

[burnt pilot]

Anyone looking to do a deep dive?

[zinc knoll]

Hey guys I’m struggling with stage 2 of elite deep dive I’ve been getting my ass kicked

[supple hollow]

Just did elite deep dive solo in 1hr 13min. So hard

[supple hollow]

hardest stage by far

[main sage]

havent tried the EDD yet this week if anyone on the east coast wants to play

[supple hollow]

had to do it solo, doing it with randoms i always lost on stage 2

[magic spear]

fuck

the second stage

on EDD

fuck that

takes forever to do the mission because waves just keep comin

and then theres the pit of death at the bottom of the first cave

and a million wardens

god damn

[unkempt saffron]

Scope out the cave first, check spots where you can hold your ground etc. and stockpile nitra from the first stage

[plush plover]

It's about 5 spitballs + 2-3 brood nexi + 3 cave leeches in there that make it nearly impossible to approach

along with an exploder infestation that makes kiting nearly impossible

[unkempt saffron]

Thats usually the case the moment you step in there, id advise heavily on staying to the side of the cave where the dread is since it offers up some breathing room

[crimson belfry]

What are good perks for deep dive?

Or in general that are useful no matter the mission type

[unkempt saffron]

IW and dash

[plush plover]

Would you suggest this elite deep dive be done solo? @unkempt saffron

[unkempt saffron]

Its possible, but i tend to do my edds with randos

[prime bane]

i’ve seen some people do it solo on youtube

unless deep dive was changed

[plush plover]

feels easier

[main sage]

finally did the EDD, stage 2 was definitely a struggle for the team i was with

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2716631075

almost 45 total downs from stage 2 alone lol

my haz 5 experienced gunner kinda carried hard

[coarse lantern]

my squad just got downed in stage 2. scout was caring team. but as soon as we took out the dread as we were refilling literally seconds after killing it we got sniped 3 out of 4 by a mactera swarm

[severe jay]

i was doing the EDD solo earlier today and was nearly done with stage 2, guarding the fuel cells, when a goddamn bulk det dug up through the floor RIGHT BELOW THE FUEL CELLS

and dropped the cells and me into a bigass tunnel it had made

with a huge swarm of stuff to boot

that sure was a surprise

[lunar helm]

judging by this channel in the past week, that has been happening pretty often

[burnt pilot]

Got kicked from a EDD for accidentaly triggering the fuel cell at the end of stage 2, Like I get it but it still feels bad

[lunar helm]

F

[burnt pilot]

But I did start and finish my first DD today though so I don't feel to bad for not being perfect

[severe finch]

good lord that second stage of EDD is pure nightmares

finally got farther than the sheer drop this time, and it felt like it only got worse

team nearly got fuel cells done before a bulk det caught us with our dick out. Overall, 4/5

[manic pivot]

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[thick ridge]

:concern:

[rustic plinth]

Can I ask if you’ve already done the normal deep dive once do you get rewards again or is it just XP and minerals?

[random rampart]

Cores are only given once per week

[unkempt saffron]

Theres no minerals btw, just gold and xp once you complete a dd and do it again

Same applies to edd

[summer thistle]

Am I going mad? Wheres the looking for games section gone? I need to do this weeks deep dives before they expire

found it

LFG

Think the discords just had a shuffle

[random rampart]

What platform are you on?

[rustic plinth]

Thank you both!

[tardy crow]

Do i need to have both weapon overclocked to have a chance on EDD?

[unkempt saffron]

Not really

[tardy crow]

Alright, any tips to be better for EDD as gunner, should i just focus on clearing the mobs or do as i normally do and some of each?

in team

[jolly hazel]

shoot the bugs

kite the bugs

shield and revive the teammates

bring wave clear

[tardy crow]

Alright

so defender/rambo 😄

as i prefer to play as so perfect

[jolly hazel]

ya

just dont stop moving and bunnyhop when you can

[maiden river]

jumping is good

makes you go out of melee range

[warped rune]

Todays standard deep dive has a fun stage one

[graceful flume]

What’s a deep dive? I unlocked them a while ago after my first promotion but haven’t gotten around to actually trying it out

[wraith shard]

Like three missions in a row

[maiden river]

three missions chained together into one
theres three stages, each have two main assignments you have to do
your mined ores and ammo go to the next stage

[graceful flume]

Ooh that’s pretty neat, thanks

[maiden river]

oh and they increase in dificulty each stage

[finite elk]

normal deep dive is haz 3 on first stage, and the other 2 both have haz 3.5

[compact wing]

Gave the EDD two more shots today. Both failed at the end of stage 2. What a hellhole

[jolly hazel]

what went wrong

need to communicate there and not get split top/bottom

[minor bloom]

If you want to give it another go I'll be online later today and more than willing to give it a shot with ya.

[bold maple]

We did the EDD with engy and scout, stage 2 was definitely harder than the others.

The sheer drop was the hardest part, lots of stuff happens right around there.

We took our descent very slow and made sure to snipe the spitballers/macteras and other random things before we even attempted to drop down and start doing anything

I had 4 downs and scout had 3

[compact wing]

That's awesome. I don't think I have time tonight. Gotta pass this week up I'm afraid.

We just got overwhelmed at the end, having to stay in the small zone while oppressor and macteras mass spawn. We got two bulks the second time there and managed to survive but then the area was in a very bad shape to defend

[jolly hazel]

ya we got 2 bulks during the mini mule stage

thankfully 0 at stationary stuff

[foggy laurel]

This week's deep dive is insanely hard

[feral atlas]

it isn't

[foggy laurel]

Sorry I meant elite deep dive

[feral atlas]

that one isn't either

legit probably the easiest one in several months

no escort, mild mutators, crit weakness at stage 3

[misty pivot]

Second stage can be difficult

[feral atlas]

generally speaking, if you can handle haz5, this week is a cakewalk

if you can't, well, you'll suffer on nearly all EDD, this one included

[jolly hazel]

what are you having trouble with

[feral atlas]

it'll be like this week, every week

[jolly hazel]

ya I think its down to the rng bulk spawn wiping you

or getting split in the drop down chamber

[feral atlas]

take a breech cutter, or have scout take an IFG

dealing with bulk spawns is part of salvage defense

[jolly hazel]

I've seen at least one person have bulk tunnel under them because the drop pod is slightly above the main chamber

[feral atlas]

in that case, gunner will need to shield it to burst it down; if you're really paranoid about it, pre drop the uplink yourself

[jolly hazel]

at that point if u can communicate someone to leave and draw aggro you can probably save it but I think that might be beyond some teams because its weird

[feral atlas]

it's beyond some teams mostly because we're fresh off the sale, and it's a bunch of bronze 1s on the caves atm

[jolly hazel]

unlink spawns on the ground i think

[feral atlas]

uplinks are affected by gravity, if you're afraid the bulk will spawn under you, just dig it down pre emptively

[jolly hazel]

idk what you mean by pre-drop unless u mean a bunker because its solid rock all the way down

[feral atlas]

i presume the bulk is spawning in some tunnel under the uplink?

[jolly hazel]

id have to make a drawing but

[feral atlas]

and this is sandblasted, anybody can dig the uplink down

[jolly hazel]

the bulk is not coming from directly below

yeah

its still a bunker lol

[feral atlas]

you can probably take rocky mountain and just dig the ground by looking at it

[jolly hazel]

also I am having

gold+ edd teammates be utter failures

so I dont even care unless its like player level 10 lol

[misty pivot]

Yea and for some reason there’s a bunch of enemies spawning

[jolly hazel]

lots of level editing lately

well

it is hazard 5

lol

but we were getting a sea of grunts on the uplink

through the tunnel on the bottom

[feral atlas]

just put min lvl 400 on your lobby name

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1839158029228095831/36535BB79658E9F81D07BF7E96D276320D013CAE/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

works every time /s

ignore the scout, he does not exist

[jolly hazel]

I mean

I'm not an elitist

just pull ur own weight

people are just editing their levels anyways so that can't even be a guarantee

[feral atlas]

it's gonna be suffering for a month after any sale

[jolly hazel]

had a 1k level scout whine about extra supply drop in normal dd and then leave after never putting a flare down

true

but

I like teaching noobs

not during the edd though

[feral atlas]

honestly, I don't even really play the regular DD anymore

it's just sleep inducing; on solo I've seen steeves one on one dreads

[jolly hazel]

I just do it for cores

ya its boring

[misty pivot]

I had a steeve survive a dread once that was fun

[feral atlas]

I once went afk on DD solo; shot a zip line into a ridge, then destroyed the terrain so that the end was hanging in the air

triggered a dread, then went to make food

when I came back I was still on that zip, and bosco and slasher steeve had solo'd it

[plush plover]

I feel so proud that i beat my very first EDD. that shit was hard

[burnt sandal]

and somehow he never shot at you

[feral atlas]

apparently he never stopped aggro'ing on steeve

[grim harbor]

I’ve failed the second stage of the EDD at least 10 times. My teams always seem to run out of ammo between the bulks and the dread fight.

[jolly hazel]

I dont think we had much of an ammo issue

even with the extra resups in the big chamber

[plush plover]

dying to exploders on stage 2 was annoying ngl

[jolly hazel]

driller drilling=dead driller

if they corner him

with exploders

[jolly hazel]

solo?

[plush plover]

nah in a group

we made it to stage 2 as 4 randos, then our driller left on stage 3

our scout had some stupidly strong build where he was chunking oppressors for like 1/10 of their hp

and hyper propellant engi which was me for killing oppressors and prats

[lunar helm]

I'm surprised people run hyper propellant outside of dread missions/edds where there are lots of dreads

[jolly hazel]

I mean

if they have plasma buster they have ok wave clear

its not their job to be killing single targets

[lunar helm]

I suppose. Fat boy tho

[jolly hazel]

so I wouldn't see a reason either

ya

[jolly hazel]

with his primary or secondary

[lunar helm]

Engie has amazing waveclear with breach cutter and fatboy

[jolly hazel]

ya

I like pgl but I'm growing to like breach cutter

[plush plover]

tbh, i've only been playing for 8 days so

[lunar helm]

But i can understand cause he struggles with single target

[jolly hazel]

did he have an m1 garand

[plush plover]

i only had hyper propel and em overclock

[jolly hazel]

u mean em refire?

for smg?

[plush plover]

ye

[jolly hazel]

yeah thats the best smg oc

[lunar helm]

that's good for single target

isnt it

[jolly hazel]

it shits out dmg and electric proc

ya that's a pretty good single dmg build

[plush plover]

the cc from electric damage proc helped with kiting

[jolly hazel]

honestly

id go no oc

versus hyper propellant

but great job getting thru

[lunar helm]

yes, good job

[jolly hazel]

[plush plover]

[jolly hazel]

with embedded detonators

scout can two shot an opressor

pretty sure he can do it with the ammo mod too

[grim harbor]

I’m playing on PlayStation so I’m lacking in the OC department.

[lunar helm]

or just IFG em and the increased damage shotty

[sterile pine]

What is a deep dive exactly? I’m almost at my first promo and I’m curious what the basis of a deep dive is

[jolly hazel]

3 missions in a row basically

at haz 3/3.5/3.5

iirc

[random rampart]

gold and nitra pass over

[sterile pine]

That’s not to bad

[random rampart]

with health and ammo too

[jolly hazel]

don't need an OC

[plush plover]

that's for regular deep dive

[jolly hazel]

also

[random rampart]

elite dd is 4.5/5/5.5

[jolly hazel]

if u are that new might unironically be a skill issue

and not an OC one

[sterile pine]

I usually play on 4 or 5 so I might do and elite dd

Alrighty cool ty lol

[jolly hazel]

dd will be a snorefest if u can do 5

[sterile pine]

Yea lol

[jolly hazel]

edd should be "easier" than a normal haz 5 cuz nitra carries over

unless cave gen fucks you

[sterile pine]

So it’s basically just a lot of xp and money but a lot more time?

[jolly hazel]

the main reward

[sterile pine]

I’ll have to test my luck today then lol

[jolly hazel]

is matrix cores

1 weapon oc

1 cosmetic oc

and 1 blank core for machines in normal missions

not necessarily more time

but generally 3x normal mission length

[sterile pine]

What is a matrix core

[jolly hazel]

I've finished an edd in 38 minutes

uhh

id say use the wiki but

its just basically a item you use in the forge

to give you the corresponding weapon overclock/cosmetic

[sterile pine]

I’ve never really seen robots that need blank cores

[jolly hazel]

robots?

it should be

[sterile pine]

Ima need to do some research lol

[jolly hazel]

stationary events

ya take a look at the wiki

[sterile pine]

Oh Alr

Ohhh

Alright ty lol makes sense

[grim harbor]

I haven’t tried it solo, just with a team. I don’t k ow if my engineer is good enough for me to solo yet

[tawdry basalt]

Research and try out different builds to find out what works best

[low moss]

Any perks that are must haves?

[indigo ruin]

Iron Will is great, maybe pair that up with Field Medic

[feral atlas]

No must have perks exist. The closest is Born Ready for certain classes.

The rest depend on how good you are, what you value, and quality of life picks.

Stuff like Iron Will and See You in Hell basically don't matter if you don't die or die very infrequently.

[lunar helm]

I like thorns and resupplier

sometimes run friendly, depositor, sweet tooth, vampire, born ready or deep pockets. For active perks I use dash and medic most, sometimes iron will or beserker, I want to try hoverboots and shield link sometime

oh and elemental in the magma core and unstoppable in glacial strata and fungus bogs sometimes

[gusty grotto]

last stage of edd was annoying

that mini mule conveniently placed at the top of the map

thank god i went driller, made that last stage a bit easier

[jolly hazel]

Dash is on all my classes

Iron will on gunner and field medic on the rest

Thorns+Resupplier+Born ready on everything except scout

Resupplier+Deep Pockets+Thorns on Scout

Resupplier+Deep Pockets+Friendly on Bouncy Ball Drak

I think dash is closest to mandatory imo because you can get out of bad situations on a reasonable cooldown

[vale lintel]

on hazard 5 I would consider dash nearly mandatory, except for on scout or with a competent team particularly concerning a competent gunner. Any lower and it is less so, and the other perks have their own fun attributes. Each class is i n t e n d e d to be able to escape a bad situation, but only with the right gameplay can they - driller, with crowd control builds on his primaries or satchels, is the least likely to be able to do so. Scout has the obvious grapple gun, gunner has his shield and the ability to focus down and destroy anything majorly threatening to him, and engineer can build his way out - repellent platforms, a kill box with gemini-defender sentries, mines, and anything else, he's great at it if you have time to set up. However, out of their elements, all of them can't do that (except for scout because the grapple gun isn't really situational). That's why dash is so good - it's a get-out-of-jail-cheaply (not free) card for the most part, on an exceptionally short cooldown, with universal application. It being useful for traversal, heavy object transport, extreme jumps, and whatnot, is just a bonus.

[jolly hazel]

also great for speedrunning doretta carry

also enemies can still hit you while dashing if you are on the ground

so jump

[feral atlas]

I've barely used dash ever. It's far from nearly mandatory.

[jolly hazel]

ok

thats ur opinion

[feral atlas]

Nothing is mandatory if you're good enough. There's a sliding scale of usefulness that's particular to the skill of each individual player.

Dash is always good, but it's not like you're going to die if you don't equip it.

[burnt sandal]

that's not an opinion. Mandatory means it's required, which it isn't.

[jolly hazel]

nearly mandatory is an opinion

also fair but I've seen

so many guys

just get wasted in an easily dash out of able spot

[feral atlas]

At the beginning, when you most likely suck, survival and failure state recover perks are better, because you'll trigger their conditions more often.

When you're at the level where you stroll into Haz5 and expect to win 95%+ of the time, people tend to gravitate towards QoL perks.

[bold maple]

I'm 200 hours in and still use dash

I just like how it feels to use

[old widget]

IMO dash is one of those perks that's so powerful and useful that it feels like it should be part of the base game. But it's almost a crutch, really hard to do without once you get used to it

[feral atlas]

Dash is strong because it somewhat straddles both categories. It's both a crutch when you suck, and a QoL thing when you don't.

But it has never been something that a player necessarily needs to survive when he gets good. I've only run dash basically by accident since they introduced perks, since I have always been a "don't need to run if you kill everything" player.

[low moss]

hows the autocannon compared to the minigun

[old widget]

both are viable primaries, probably better topic for #drg-chat tho

[feral atlas]

The only perk that ever got close to mandatory was old IW.

pre nerf

where you could ask 100 players and 99 would say you needed to bring it for pubs

[bold maple]

Old IW was crazy

[feral atlas]

and the last person would be shot for blasphemy

[old widget]

specific autocannon builds can make higher haz (like in EDD) much easier though...like neurotoxin payload, which slows down all the bugs

[bold maple]

Field medic is my current always-bring perk

[burnt sandal]

it was not mandatory even back the,, but it was stupidly OP

double jump level of stupid

[feral atlas]

not mandatory, but you were kinda braindead to not take it

it was something you deliberately didn't take

as in, you didn't choose to take IW, you instead made the conscious choice to not take IW

[burnt sandal]

yeah

Dash is starting to get pretty close to that as well

[feral atlas]

Eh, dash is more questionable, in part because player DPS is so high atm

still strong, just not IW levels of being a default pick

I've basically kept field medic and steeve almost all the time since release, other than IW for sabotage

if it wasn't so easy to just kill everything, Dash would probably be a near default pick

[crimson belfry]

Steve!
What are passive perks people recommend?

[dusty canyon]

Has anyone here did a solo deep dive successfully?

How long did I take ?

[burnt sandal]

yeah

[burnt sandal]

about 1h or so, depending on how fast you are

[hard topaz]

I take veteran depositor for all my deep dives. It speeds things up and gives a global 30% damage reduction*, which is insane.

• While within 8m of a deposit source, which is a massive area.

It's essentially 30% more shield and hp

[manic pivot]

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[crimson belfry]

🤯 didn’t know it was 30%! My friend loves it

[hard topaz]

Since the drop pod deposits are... deposits, you get that damage reduction while waiting for the doors to open as well. It's just really good

[grim harbor]

Are the stages set up differently between the platforms? I watched a video of the 2nd stage for the EDD and their drop pod was in an enclosed area.

[burnt sandal]

the cave gen is slightly different yes

[grim harbor]

Oh ok, I thought I was seeing things for a second. The PS one is completely open and makes it very annoying. I have to up my skills.

[glossy marlin]

Dash < IW < FM if you are good

and by good, I mean you know to deathball when swarms and other fights start

and by using Dash you are just running away from your team, which is the opposite of the good strategy

[glossy marlin]

30% damage reduction is 42% health increase

[hard topaz]

How does that math out? I'm curious

[ebon anchor]

A lot of people find stage 2 EDD tricky, myself too. This week's edd wasn't especially hard but stage 2 was a little tricky

Wonder whys that though, I can't pin the reason

Maybe the exploders?

[hard topaz]

I thought the elite dive was very unforgiving this time

[crimson belfry]

Is dd and edd the same stages just with harder difficulty?

[ebon anchor]

If you get past stage 2 EDD then stage 3 is pretty smooth cos you have critical weakness

Just need to clear the leeches

[hard topaz]

But then again it spawned an oppressor + a warden + a bulk on top of the drop pod when i had 1 min to leave.

[ebon anchor]

F

I am not good enough to do solo EDD

[hard topaz]

I did mine solo with the sludge pump driller

[ebon anchor]

I ran it with a cryo buddy and all the exploders and bulks were cheese

Wao sludge

Salutes

[hard topaz]

I learned a lot about the weapon torturing myself with that lmao

[ebon anchor]

I can't imagine soloing with sludge cos I am not good at it. Especially with the huge mactera spawns on stage 2

[hard topaz]

Step 1: Drill into a wall
Step 2: Flying nightmare the mactara

Step 3: Cower like a lil bitch

[ebon anchor]

Didn't think of flying nightmare

I used sludge pump a few times and I am aware of it's incredible stopping power and cc

But when the macteras turn up or an Oppressor or bulk

I am screwed

[hard topaz]

That's the sludge's only real weakness. Getting the clean overclock for better slow is its true strength. The damage is garbage though. Waiting for things to die is a super bad idea for haz4+

It probably would have gone better with the cryo canon

[ebon anchor]

Definitely would have, trusty freeze everything gun

Still, mad rock and and stones for doing it solo with sludge pump

[hard topaz]

I love playing pure freeze in a party

Thanks!

[ebon anchor]

I feel like if a weapon is hard to use solo or otherwise then player skill really carries the game a lot more

So you must be the greyest of beards

[hard topaz]

Lmao

[crimson belfry]

Though I can’t math well, as for the 30% less damage taken question, ex. You have 150~ health + shield together and you’re getting attacked by grunts and playing haz4 with 4 people… cause grunts deal 10 damage in this scenario lol.
150= 15 hits. 30% less damage = 7 damage taken = 22 hits to die… 30% more health/shield wouldn’t be as good.

[floral meteor]

This is the most Driller thing I've read in my life

[pine sapphire]

I got the goo bomber unstable over lock and love using it.

[hard topaz]

Personally not a fan. It catches fewer monsters. I use the extra slow so they stay in the puddles longer.

[pine sapphire]

Seems catch a lot to me big long line of goo

Just use charge shot though

[unkempt saffron]

Its like sticky flames but it only travels in a line

Otherwise disp compound is best for large puddles and cc ability

[wary skiff]

any last min deep dive parties?

[main sage]

helping last minute elite divers on public rn

full party already actually

[knotty walrus]

Anyone having issues with performance matters trophy?

[civic perch]

Do you need help or?

[main sage]

got paired with another team that got about 45 downs collectively by the end of stage 2, so about the same as yesterday's rando team... carrying this weeks EDD was a fun challenge https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1865053727087536477/EB1C415DA419235411ABC553A1451302806BBDD5/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

death pit gets the best of us all from time to time

[magic spear]

The fucking death pit

Never forget

If you even have one dwarf get downed in there

Yeah that second stage is a fucker

[little prism]

I was getting that red sugar up above the pit just before uplink and an exploder snuck up on me. Whole damn way down. Took like 2 minutes for the team to make it back down for me.

[magic spear]

We got so lucky

During uplink and refuel

That we only got one bulk

Holy

We brought cryo + neurotoxin autocannon + fat boy + lure

Very much recommended

Took me 7 tries

[little prism]

I've gotta give it another crack tomorrow. We managed to kill the bulk right on top of uplink and open up half the zone to the chasm below. Didn't work out.

[fickle fox]

our bulk got stuck

very lucky

[magic spear]

My best advice is to stick the fuck together

Do not go too far ahead, move together

And call out certain stuff, like macteras

[little prism]

no can do, boss. am scout. must zoom.

[earnest orbit]

We had double bulk spawn, but after the refuel. Scout was the only one that survived, but was enough to do it first try.

[rapid heart]

I think I had about 4 or 5 bulks during this EDD

[mint creek]

had 3 bulks in solo EDD stage 2, hoping this week is a bit less bulky

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[random rampart]

O look

%s(nil)man is back

[thorny aurora]

is that normal orrr

[random rampart]

No lol

[marble veldt]

We are under attack from Rival Tech
They are already here
Brace yourselves Miners, we're in for a rough one...
SEASON 2: INVASION
Coming soon...

[thorny aurora]

i would cry

[random rampart]

Company briefing: #playstation message

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[sly kettle]

Hopefully people will post the names of the deep dives and such so I can update the reddit thread.

Cause Mission Control ain't carrying his weight atm

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Carnivorous Rock
Stage 1: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + Dreadnought Hiveguard | No Mutators
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: 250 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Full Killing
Stage 1: 225 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators
Stage 2: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen
Stage 3: 250 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs

[weak carbon]

Based elite dive name

[true saffron]

EDD stage 2: liquid morkite + 150 morkite, low oxygen

[waxen terrace]

how generous is the nitra for EDD?

[marble veldt]

There are Mules in Stage 1 so it's bound to be plentiful

[waxen terrace]

the pump jacks also have o2 refills right?

[ebon anchor]

I guess we feasting on Morkite today

lol

[fast sluice]

stage 1 and 2 is always the meanest

3 is usually chill

[ebon anchor]

I remember last year there was a PE in radioactive caves stage 3

with haunted caves

[glacial laurel]

not low oxygen again at refine liquid morkite

[waxen terrace]

lol oh god

[ebon anchor]

I forgot the secondary

[waxen terrace]

secondary: black box

[ebon anchor]

oh you remember?

[waxen terrace]

no

i just feel like black box secondary would make it more hellish

[true saffron]

EDD stage 3: 250 morkite + 2 eggs, regenerative bugs

[ebon anchor]

really do be feasting on morkite today

[waxen terrace]

dark morkite hours

[weak carbon]

this EDD do be easy

[marble veldt]

Finally! All morkite!

[mint creek]

seems like dark morkite will be pretty useful this week

[ebon anchor]

There's 100% gonna be a killer edd round the corner

With the past weeks being this lenient

[weak carbon]

about time we get a rerun of the dreaded bough dive

[ebon anchor]

DD stage 1 exactly the same?

Last week also had refinery and hiveguard

[mint creek]

bet-c in stage 1 making it extremely chill

[obtuse pasture]

ok EDD stage 2 .. solo gunner was not ideal

stage 1 of the EDD is a joke though

[weak carbon]

stage 3 is too

as usual stage 2 is the tricky one

[smoky gorge]

There is BET-C in the first stage of DD on the steam version

[lunar helm]

seems like a pretty doable EDD

[mint creek]

another bet-c in stage 3 DD

[lunar helm]

oh boy lol

[stuck swan]

Wish it was the EDD

The devs should choose their own combinations lol

[jagged pumice]

low o2 is going to be not fun

[junior garnet]

Anyone got a good driller build for elite deep dives?

[marble veldt]

In general or just this one?

[junior garnet]

Both would be nice

[marble veldt]

What do you like to use on driller, and what's available to you atm? (Weapons, and Overclocks if you have them)

[junior garnet]

I have all the weapons enjoying using all of them

Only over clocks I have are heat pipe and one for more ammo on the flamethrower

[marble veldt]

Generalist build with this OC (Lighter Tanks) on Flamer would be 2213X. It ignites targets fast and you have plenty of ammo
Build your Subata for damage on burning targets and weakpoints hits (12311 seems like a good baseline imo)

[junior garnet]

Ah this is for a general build yeah?

[marble veldt]

Yup

[junior garnet]

So would hat be better than running a cryo weapon with no overclock

[marble veldt]

Cryo Cannon is a bit more versatile, so no

Cold Radiance (T5B mod) alone is enough to deal with pretty much anything the game throws at you

iirc my no OC build for Cryo is 21232

[junior garnet]

Ah alright

[marble veldt]

Pair that with Barbed Drills, Impact Axes and the Vampire perk and you're basically unkillable as long as you have ammo

[junior garnet]

Yeah I’ve been doing that for a while

Thanks

[outer beacon]

First tried the EDD with a friend. Man that last stage is a doozy.

[jolly hazel]

2 should be harder than 3

oh wait

dives reset today

wow low oxygen refinery

that'll be fun

[wraith robin]

I love low O2 missions

For the sense of urgency

[jolly hazel]

I always have a sense of urgency in a edd lol

[outer beacon]

For me the second stage was actually buttery smooth, two of the pumpjacks were very close to spawn so all I had to do was plonk down a couple of platforms

[jolly hazel]

ya I meant

last weeks

stage 2

thats good that the refinery is ez

what makes 3 hard?

its just mining/eggs

[outer beacon]

Mostly just that it's a really long cave, lots of exploders, I felt it was a bit of a spike compared to the other two stages.

Should be manageable for a full team, but if you're solo or a duo, it might get sweaty.

[jolly hazel]

ah ok

thanks

[mighty yew]

Last week's Deep Dive was one of the most frustrating I've ever played

The Elite one, rather

But I couldn't even finish the 2nd mission

Apparently Salvage missions and exploders prove to be a lethal combo

[fossil lagoon]

We had 3 bulk dets in the 2nd stage I think

It truly felt like a Haz 5 mission, was fun

[outer beacon]

I think most of the big hitters, like Opressors or Detonators, just feel like a nightmare with salvage stuff because you just have to take it and stay in the triangulation zone or Mission Control just keeps yelling in your ear, it's genuinely grating.

[marble veldt]

Good Scout, IFG, Boom boom shotty, power attack, done

Same for bulks, just don't PA

[fossil lagoon]

Oppressors are much easier to deal with in terms of staying in the triangulation zone than detonators

[marble veldt]

Dets are super slow, just have one dwarf kite them away while the others lay hellfire upon them

[fossil lagoon]

But in a team its also much easier as all you need is 1 miner to lead the deadinator away

Same thing with haunted cave

[marble veldt]

Yup

Not to mention both Bulks and Unknown Horror are affected by Slows

[violet warren]

Unknown horror can't be a thing on salvage and escort, right?

But it can be a thing on a black box?

[marble veldt]

Yes
Maybe? No

Just checked every past DD and EDD, there wasn't any occurence of Haunted Cave+Black Box

[jolly hazel]

elite bulk

[marble veldt]

IFG

[jolly hazel]

true

might consider that switch on elite threat now that u mention it

[lusty jay]

does anyone know how many blank matrix cores youre supposed to get if you do the normal deep dive and elite

[final rivet]

1 blank 1 OC 1 cosmetic for a DD

hosting a SEA lobby for DD

[lusty jay]

ok guess my game really bugged then i started with 2 today and im at 6 now and only did deep dives

it didnt register my first normal deep dive run for some reason

[quiet mortar]

Unless you have all the overclocks, if you do the Dive rewards you with 2 blanks

[lusty jay]

not sure if i have all the overclocks dont know how to count them 😄 or if there even is a way to count them when you didnt forge them

[waxen terrace]

check the wiki

[obtuse pasture]

right solo EDD done.. thank again Scout :p
Good old Bouncy Drak + Embedded Dets + IFG saves the day once again.
Stage1 - Absolute cakewalk
Stage2 - The tricky stage of this weeks EDD, annoying terrain, no good "fight zone" and an absurd amount of mactera.. I literally has more mactera on this stage than I have seen on some mactera plagues .. unbelievable number of trijaws. A good engi will make this stage MUCH easier. Low O2 and refining is never my favourite combo.. luckily lots of nitra from stage 1.
Stage3 - Total cruise after stage 2
NOTE: Apparently cave leeches don't like radiation because I saw 1 total.
NOTE2: Had a rocky mountain beer which made stage 2 more easily doable with some creative mining

[ebon anchor]

Agreed, friend's engi on stage 2 laid out so much platforms our fighting area basically extended by 2x

[magic spear]

Oh god low oxygen refinery

[ebon anchor]

If no platforms there's lots of open pitfalls

[obtuse pasture]

I tried it solo gunner and it was brutal. no good sight lines except maybe the tunnel to the 3rd pump.. and you will need O2 down there

[ebon anchor]

We got so much nitra we called in a supply at each pump, but in solo I would imagine it's a lot harder

[burnt sandal]

depends

[obtuse pasture]

Solo stage 1 and 3 are super easy.. stage 2 is just a pain because of all the back and forth inefficiency

[burnt sandal]

you have as much nitra but double the use per pod

[ebon anchor]

Can't imagine getting the pipe down to the third pump, dats a long way down the cave

Without rocky mountain

[obtuse pasture]

with scout it is easy.. but then you need to get creative with pump laying

[obtuse pasture]

not so bad.. you can planB it and run a pipe on top of the pipe to the jack where you drop in and then extend on from there

that was what i was doing with my gunner run when things got out of control

[final rivet]

SEA lobby for EDD hosted!

[bold maple]

Do you get a blank core and an OC core or just a blank one for DD's?

I forget what I got last week

[old widget]

one blank, one weapon, one cosmetic for stage 1/2/3 respectively

[bold maple]

And that applies to both DD and EDD, yeah?

[old widget]

aye

same for weekly core hunt missions, for that matter

[bold maple]

[final rivet]

[jolly hazel]

wouldn't it be 4x

[burnt sandal]

well yes but I'm talking about using it to go back to full ^^

[jolly hazel]

ohh ok

[gusty grotto]

Whats weird is 6 minutes after the DD refresh, I started a new DD, it was the exact same as last weeks but still gave me the rewards.

Anyone else had this experience?

[clear sage]

I'm losing my shit right now
My game crashed on the last mission

[burnt sandal]

resync your system clock

[clear sage]

Oh wait does it save your progress

Thank god i think it does

[burnt sandal]

sort of, but not really

you keep the reward but you have to redo the whole thing still

[clear sage]

Goddamnit

[gusty grotto]

I saw that the game said "New Dives in -6 minutes" so I reloaded the game, went back to the DD terminal, it had reset my run times but still kept the old maps.

[clear sage]

I hate having a bad pc cause there's a chance it'll just crash in the middle of something

It's a me problem tho so its whatever

[burnt sandal]

just resync your system clock to fix it

[burnt sandal]

are you using dx12 or dx11 ?

[clear sage]

Dx12

[gusty grotto]

I mean it fixed itself anyways a few hours later just weird

[burnt sandal]

switch to dx11

[burnt sandal]

that's because your internal clock is desynced

it can cause troubles with joining matches btw

[gusty grotto]

👌

ok

[bold maple]

Had an assignment mission that was on a shield disruption modifier and I groaned. Checks in game timer for mission reset, 5 seconds till mission reset, phew looks like we're saved

[clear sage]

I didn't know directx would affect that

[final rivet]

EDD for SEA server hosted

[gusty grotto]

I use dx12 with no issues but then again my pc aint potato

[burnt sandal]

older GPU will usually work better with dx11 and that'll cause less crashes, and even better performance

hope it fixes your issue

[burnt sandal]

try checking #lfg-steam (or any lfg channel for your platform) if you want to find teammates quickly

[lunar helm]

if I have a decent computer but would like a little bit better preformance, should I switch to dx11?

[burnt sandal]

try both, see which one is better for your system

[ember ibex]

Hello everyone

[magic spear]

morekite

[ashen veldt]

Cryos or IFGs?

[jolly hazel]

cryo has more utility imo

because of instakilling fliers

and desperation cryo for bulk

if the driller fails

[ember ibex]

I just recently started playing the game so far i am enjoying it does anyone have any reccomendations for new player i am trying out driller completed my first mission solo which weapon upgrade should i work on first main flame thrower ?

[lunar helm]

If you plan on focusing on driller it might be good to unlock the cryo cannon first once you've reached a certain level

and learn how to use it

It's a very powerful weapon for driller

[outer beacon]

That said, for flamethrower, you might want to focus on sticky flame duration and ammo consumption, the other upgrades are up to you.

[lunar helm]

or if you're just upgrading weapons, it's really up to you when you start off

[ember ibex]

Ah ok thank you did not want to mess up upgrading weapons that it wont be beneficial for team play especially i am not sure if you can respec

[smoky gorge]

Dont forget to upgrade your armor, it gives you more hp

[ember ibex]

@smoky gorge thank you for the advice

Ty for the tips everyone

[lunar helm]

Don't feel too much pressure at the start, just start unlocking and having fun

[burnt sandal]

any weapon upgrade will do, this stuff comes down to preferences/filling a role (and for the latter, you won't really know until you get some experience with the game

[burnt sandal]

https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/548430/extras/AboutThisGame_Top.gif

[lunar helm]

You will learn tricks amd what your teammates expect naturally over time

[burnt sandal]

also welcome aboard

[ember ibex]

Thank you it is a hidden gem wish i would of noticed this game sooner

[burnt sandal]

also, you can't mess with the upgrading. You can take other weapon mods at the same tier, and once unlocked, you can switching those at any time given between missions.

upgrades aren't locked, so feel free to test stuff out

[ember ibex]

Ah ok cool beans

[burnt sandal]

you pay once for the unlock, and then you get to do what you want

[ashen veldt]

true. i just realized that i never gave IFGs the time of day. i suppose i did that for good enough reason

What do you guys use on your engies? I'm trying to optimize rn. I'm fairly happy with light-weight rounds on my stubby but I'm going to try out turret EM discharge I think. Not really sure what to use as my secondary though. I've got hyper propellant, fat boy, clean sweep on my PGL, and the clean roll overclock on my breach cutter. Not really sure what works best

[lunar helm]

Turret em and breach cutter is a good combo

[jolly hazel]

magnetic pellet alignment warthog

or em refire smg

clean sweep

pgl as secondary

trying out breach cutter though

[lunar helm]

Roll control is useful, clean sweep is good

[jolly hazel]

lure usually

[lunar helm]

Lots of good combos there

[jolly hazel]

i never really liked proxy mines and plasma buster is just another swarm clear

[ashen veldt]

Honestly I think I just need to play around with the engie a lil more. Haven't found a build im 100% comfortable with just yet

[outer beacon]

I love Light Weight Magazines on Engi, bonus ammo and much faster reloads are my jam, plus it lets me get other stuff like more pellets in each shell, bigger mags and turret whip.

I still run mostly un-OC'd PGL because I haven't gotten any others than Hyperpropellant, which I use only in boss missions like Elimination or Industrial Sabotage, but I run High Voltage Crossover on Breach Cutter.

[jolly hazel]

its hard to go wrong with his secondaries

[outer beacon]

I also recently started using the Stubby with the EM Refire OC, which made me like the gun a lot more, I love the bonus electrical damage and firing speed though I'm trying to find a build that truly takes advantage of it.

[burnt sandal]

you might wanna switch to #drg-chat though

[ashen veldt]

Ah nice. Glad I'm not alone w/ the thing

[ashen veldt]

Maybe? I'm looking to optimise for deep dives though so it's a bit of a grey area. more or less done tho, sorry bout that

[main sage]

deep-dive-speedrunning is likely the place to talk about optimizing a dive, though it seems this is just a general DRG chat today

plan on doing the EDD with all dwarves this week to help the bronze and silvers out there

[ashen veldt]

yeah, that's my bad. sorry bout that!

The EDD looks like a bit of a pain this time around

Idk how bad regenerative bugs is, but low O2 second stage is pretty nasty

Do the pumpjacks have oxygen tanks on them?

[burnt sandal]

IIRC, yes

[ashen veldt]

That's not too bad then

I just checked the wiki and beastmaster synergizes with regenerative bugs. Might be worth taking more so than usual

(tamed bugs still regen after a few seconds)

Makes slashers the go-to choice too, imo

Is veteran depositor any good for liquid morkite missions? I figure the 30% damage reduction could be decent if the minehead isn't overrun but i'm sure people have tried it before

[fierce bobcat]

It's too hard to fight around minehead but sticking to Molly is pretty effective

[ashen veldt]

Mm, makes sense

So is vet depositor + shield link worth taking then?

[jolly hazel]

vet depositor is

mediocre imo

because you should not stay glued to mule

you should be kiting

and I think ther are much more useful active perks than shield link

[burnt sandal]

just take whatever you're comfortable using

[jolly hazel]

^

[fierce bobcat]

Overcharge is nice but ya I agree

[jolly hazel]

should not be fighting on the minehead

btw

I get clipped thru the floor

because of however the minehead collision works

glyphs can walk through the metal sometimes

[fierce bobcat]

Depositer should work with any dorf machine like ammo pods

[jolly hazel]

its basically a non-issue as long as your teammates don't lack object permanence and your gunner didnt take fear autocannon without neurotoxin payload

[fierce bobcat]

Like the o2 aoe

[jolly hazel]

iirc regen bugs only start regenning after like 3-5 seconds (I dont remember) of not taking damage

[austere oasis]

new DD was a snoozefest

how's the EDD?

[burnt sandal]

looks easy enough

no escort, no salvage, no dread, no really bad mutators

[austere oasis]

nice :)

i am really keen on getting all 9 cores today

[little glacier]

Lv 10 gunner on my first promotion, should I wait on deep dive or jump in.

[burnt sandal]

if you're promoted, feel free to jump in

no reason not to

[sick ginkgo]

Don't worry

If You lose You can try again

Also today i'm nigth i'm goint to do a deep dive

[sick ginkgo]

Do You play on play station?

[little glacier]

Yeah A_Nearby_Shrub is my psn

[sick ginkgo]

Ok

When i'm Game back from the kiosco i'm Will start a deep dive

[violet warren]

Is on-site refining the best mission type to have Low O2 in?

Since you're focused on pipelines that also act as fast travel back to the oxygen-providing refinery

I guess escort might be reasonable too if doretta provides O2 since you're going to spend a lot of the mission near the escort target

[sick ginkgo]

I'm recomend to puto a suply drop in EVERY pump jack

Si You can recharge oxygen

During the repair fase

[burnt sandal]

better yet : near the middle of any pipe

[sick ginkgo]

Yeah

But i'm motive that the map is not that Big

But is a realy good tip anyways

Also allá misions on EDD have morkite objetive

So black morkite alle is realy good

[severe tusk]

The last couple of weeks I have done the EDD during the last few hours with relatively new players and managed to complete them both. They have been kind of easier EDDs though. This week's EDD also looks pretty easy unless the map generation is evil or something.

[marble veldt]

Oof the cave gen on this one... Not only terrain was horrible but the Macteras were everywhere on Stage 2!
I had to suicide bomb a swarm of Trijaws (literally 7 popped outta nowhere)
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/931302934581485608/unknown.png

[wraith shard]

ah damn you, Scout

I was typing up an essay

[marble veldt]

No

Goddamn Scout!

But go ahead, shoot, it was your EDD too

[wraith shard]

Bring Engi this week.

[marble veldt]

I said I was sorry!

[quiet wyvern]

I may solo the dives this week, i'm feeling lucky

[severe tusk]

Bring engi every week

[lament thistle]

That second stage is absolutely miserable.

Somebody gets knocked into that deathpit he is not getting back out.

[violet warren]

Even if he's driller?

Or scout with special powder?

[civic hatch]

Yo there's a discord bot for Deep Dives

Google ain't giving me any info on em

[random rampart]

Today I learned mission control is an actual bot

[civic hatch]

I'm annoyed that I can't Google something like this for the proper information I need, I gotta hop around discord servers for it

[random rampart]

What are you looking specifically about the deep dives?

[civic hatch]

Anyway, It's a bad week? Yall we're saying the warnings suck

I just need normal DD Stage Info

[violet warren]

Should be in the first pinned message

[random rampart]

There's a pinned msg updated each and every week with those details

[violet warren]

Regenerative bugs is generally beneficial to the player because it makes beastmaster stronger and most bugs are killed outright rather than wounded and left alive

[civic hatch]

Leeches

Hmmmmmmmm

It's only week 2 tbh, Might just do the Elite

[random rampart]

> Leeches
> Lethal Enemies

[civic hatch]

Is it normal to skip DDs?

Or should I be doing em?

[random rampart]

It's of your choosing, actually lol

[civic hatch]

I was just curious since DRG just dropped on PS and people still Greenbeards mostly

[visual fractal]

Question: Is it possible that there isn't enough morkite on a mission? I am doing my first promotion mission (400 Morkite) and I just can't find the last 15(!) Morkite. Searching for 2 hours now

[civic hatch]

I've been no life-ing it lol

[random rampart]

I'd say no

Search really well, check the map well

[visual fractal]

did so, even methodically laser searched the wall...

but I will just do it again

[onyx tartan]

EDD having a hard second phase
last week 🤝 this week

[visual fractal]

any tricks to find some last Morkite reserves? Cause I am getting crazy with this mission.

[humble sparrow]

Check the terrain scanner for possible nearby tunnels/small caves?

[visual fractal]

did so

[viscid oak]

My First EDD completed …wasnt too bad compared to last weeks stage 2

we mined enough for at least 5 drops pods placed around the map for stage 2 which helped with the low o2 and fixing up pipes

there’s a bit in stage 3 where after the second egg a shit ton of mactera spawn out of nowhere so watch for that …you’ll likely be in the big open room right down the bottom of the map …also stick together on way up to the pod …the spawns are nuts

[mint swift]

can you do deep dives with less than 4 people?

[viscid oak]

yeah solo if you want

[mint swift]

with 2 as well or is the amount of enemies not adjusted?

[viscid oak]

enemies are adjusted …yeah 2 as well …once you launch the mission others can’t join like normal

[mint swift]

ahh neat!

[keen ether]

Any1 else fall for the 3rd stage edd ambush? I have no words for that :p

[ebon anchor]

2 player swarm size is same as 1p

Second player just replace bosco

[ashen veldt]

what ambush?

[jagged pumice]

got a hoarder on stage 3 of the normal deep dive

[jagged pumice]

alright deep dive done!

that one was fun

[hoary cove]

tell that to the driller

[ashen veldt]

That was really easy ngl. Hell of a lot of nitra

[keen ether]

Idk did no1 else have an issue dealing with a bet-c 2 oppressors a bulk + the macteras and grunts? Got ganked at the bottom of the 3rd stage in my solo run. It's gonna haunt my sleep tonight.

But yeah there was so much nitra

[slender crown]

Anyone know if the fat man engie PGL OC is available for this weeks dds?

[burnt sandal]

that's not how it works

the OC you get is random

[slender crown]

oh

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd-theres-a-chance-jim-carrey-gif-11098164

I just want to nuke the driller when he C4's the team lol

[jolly hazel]

drg is not a pvp game

[thorny trout]

still, that's a pretty good reason for wanting the OC.

[tough otter]

How do you get this

[severe jay]

wow

wow

[tough otter]

Idk I’m new

[severe jay]

second stage of this week's EDD can get absolutely fucked

[tough otter]

Like a day old

[severe jay]

that was the second worst mission ive ever played, ever

[pallid goblet]

How so?

[severe jay]

low oxygen refinement FUCK OFF

[pallid goblet]

oh

I mean

[severe jay]

in rez with tons of macteras

and huge sheer drops

[pallid goblet]

Call resupplys at the far pumpjacks

for air

[severe jay]

it just is the antithesis of fun

[pallid goblet]

Wasn't bad at all for me

[severe jay]

i hate low oxygen so much

[pallid goblet]

I ran cyro driller

[severe jay]

im also playing with the extra waves mod though so i have more stuff coming at me

[pallid goblet]

OH

Makes more sense now

[severe jay]

which means having to fight near the refinery or supply pods is a tremendous pain in the ass

especially since this game's bullshit collision with macteras flying THROUGH structures still isnt fixed arrrrrrghj

sorry, im super salty since i just got killed

also bosco is useless as usual

[pallid goblet]

oh its only a few oppressors

[severe jay]

if i had one single human ally it would have been fine

[pallid goblet]

each wave

Will be honest tho

There are two huge pits

Next to the refinery

Thats what we had the most trouble with

[severe jay]

yeah, my first death was falling down one of those while the low O2 alarm was going

survived fall, couldnt get back up fast enough even with platforms

then it was all downhill

HUGE swarms

[pallid goblet]

Yeah those pits suck

[severe jay]

bosco doing absolute jack shit to help

i held out as long as i did solely thanks to my turret, breach cutter, and sticky nades

[pallid goblet]

I got flung into one by said oppressor

[severe jay]

last week's second stage was hard but it wasnt like this

this is just the game giving you a giant middle finger

i can handle the huge swarms if i dont have to hang out near the refinery

[pallid goblet]

For solo players for sure

[severe jay]

also, lol, i took pots of gold going in because HUGE CASH PAYOUT YEAAAH

then oof

[pallid goblet]

That and there is one pumpjack in the corner

thats annoying to get to without a driller

[severe jay]

with platforms it isnt too bad

god help you if you're scout

or gunner

i like playing all classes though

[pallid goblet]

Ziplines are sloooow

[severe jay]

yeah, they are really bad for going uphill in anything even remotely resembling a combat scenario hahaha

i only use them as a quick getaway going downhill, or going up to reach minerals during peacetime

[pallid goblet]

Oh we don't talk about the tri-jaws either

[severe jay]

even with that dumpster fire of an ending i still made like 14k in gold, lol

[pallid goblet]

[hard topaz]

This week's normal dive is the easiest I've had in a while

[waxen terrace]

this week's EDD only problem is swarms are really big

but thats about it

also silicate harvesters in stage 2 was a tiny bit annoying

bodyblocking and there is alot of them

[main sage]

sounds fun

[waxen terrace]

its easy as long as your team sticks together

it only goes downhill the moment someone dies on the other side of the map midswarm

[runic bane]

Question. Within each week, are deep dives also rng generated every time you do play it like the rest of the game? Or is it static for the week.

Because the way people talk about them on reddit, it's like everyone knows the map layout

[main sage]

its static for the week

[waxen terrace]

^

[runic bane]

Sorry. Maybe I should word it differently. Within the mission itself. Is the map always generated the same.

[waxen terrace]

yes

the map layout is the same for the entire week for everyone

[runic bane]

Ok. Thanks for the info.

[severe jay]

i think some ingame events can happen differently, like swarm composition and timing, but otherwise it's the same random seed used by everyone so its pretty reliable to get a very similar experience

i like that aspect of it

i wish there were normal seeded runs that werent 3 missions long, in the same biome the whole time, and with no minerals or machine events

i.e. not deep dives

[wraith shard]

Best bet for this week's second EDD stage is heading straight to the refinery after dropping in and starting to set up a halfway decent fighting area with a resupply for oxy. Engi will make everything a lot easier.
You also need someone to clear tons of Macteras, it was more than on most Macteras Plague missions
Prepping the fighting area as soon as possible is the most important thing on this stage imo. The low oxy and size of swarms is manageable otherwise.

[wraith shard]

It is, but the amount of bugs between 3 and 4 player- teams is similar, so if you're unsure stick to either 2 or 4 player teams. Seems to be the easiest in terms of swarm size/ combined firepower.

[marble veldt]

I SAID I WAS SORRY!

[wraith shard]

LMAO I mean, we had a blast and cleared it regardless (also thanks to the area you drilled between refinery and second pumpjack). It wasn't a bad spot and with the amount of nitra it's not a problem neglecting everything until the area is set up.
I'd like to do a 4-man run this week as well, just to see how it goes

[unkempt saffron]

dang 2 betcs for this weeks dd

[rustic sinew]

Balls

[quiet burrow]

Edd?

Cuz holy heck that's a lot

[blissful vortex]

did anyone else get a hive guard spawn during the third stage of the regular deep dive???

[keen ether]

No I got a betC 2 oppressors and a bulk I would've loved a hiveguard

Oh nvm regular dd was hiveguard yeah I think

[unkempt saffron]

regular dd is a hiveguard

[keen ether]

For the low oxygen on edd stage 2 if you use ammo sparingly so you all can exfil with 0 to lil ammo so you got 300+ nitra for when stage 2 starts. Can immediately run to pumpjacks and call in supply drops one per location for team has places to resupply oxygen spread out over the map

[true lotus]

When should i try deep dives? I'm lvl 10, lvl 24scout. I usually play on hazard 3

I should probably wait a bit more

[unkempt saffron]

after you promote

or if you want after you promote another class

[true lotus]

Are dds harder than hazard 5?

[unkempt saffron]

no lmao

they only go upto haz 3.5

[true lotus]

Wait Fr

[unkempt saffron]

yes

[true lotus]

But what do deep dives do?

[keen ether]

Wait till your running haz 4 comfortably for edd at least. The regular dd should be doing them right away

[true lotus]

I get those over lock things right?

Overclock

[unkempt saffron]

yes

for your weapons and cosmetics too

[true lotus]

Weapom mods

[true lotus]

Yee

[true lotus]

I'll try

I think hazard 4 should be manageable for me

[unkempt saffron]

ideally promote 2 classes so that theres flexibility in what class you can play, more the better

[keen ether]

Get up to 3 blanks 3 cosmetics and 3 weapons per week if complete both dd and edd as well as weekly hunt. With the 9 cores can craft 5 to earn +1 to craft 5 for +1 for 11 per week

[unkempt saffron]

yes but if you only count cores for weapons only you can only have 6 possible ocs per week discounting seasonal event assignments

[keen ether]

No 7 weapon max because 1 of 2 forge mastery will always be weapon or cosmetic

[unkempt saffron]

yeah that too but thats assuming if you forge them regularly, and thats about every 2 weeks or so

[keen ether]

I've been crafting all 10 clocks per weekly cycle since I realized it but now have like no gold or mats for weapon mods

[unkempt saffron]

yeah i dont do that, its not really worth it

[keen ether]

Gotten some of my best clocks from it for the classes I tend to neglect

When choosing blank rewards

[unkempt saffron]

for machine events?

[keen ether]

For machine events I only ever pick driller gunner if can be helped some of my best engi and scout clocks have Come from my forge mastery levels

Including return to sender my new fav for Bc and the magnetic alignment for warthog ect.

[unkempt saffron]

fair enough, i prefer to be conservative with my gold and resources

[keen ether]

It's also a matter of most can't play 10+ matches a day

[plush plover]

I'm a little confused how this edd was difficult

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/734218658259140620/931484226245758996/unknown.png

this was not as bad people were talking about

[marble veldt]

Mostly annoying because of weird cave gen, especially without an Engineer to put platforms over chasms

[plush plover]

ahhhh

I asked my engi to put down plats for shorter routes, was so nice

drilled to 2 of them

the macterra swarms were annoying though

[wintry knoll]

does the drone not work in multiplayer?

when im solo i can use the drone and it mines for me, but in multi it's like a ping for other players

[magic spear]

Ye the drone is for solo missions only

[wintry knoll]

bruh

[waxen terrace]

this edd was one of the few missions where my drill fuel ran out due to tunneling lol

[lunar helm]

Damn I wanna know what that gunner was using

[tall meadow]

Samjok good player

[wintry knoll]

is it possible to unlock new weapons for preexisting characters

i saw a cryo flamethrower

and a normal flamethrower

[waxen terrace]

yes

you get new weapon assignments as you level up

[wintry knoll]

i see no weapon assigments nor available assigments lol

in the board

[smoky gorge]

You need to lvl up first

Lvl 10 for the first assignment

[waxen terrace]

^

[wintry knoll]

Rank with the character or global rank?

[smoky gorge]

Rank with the character

[wintry knoll]

only thing in the board i have is the Conquer Hoxxes 4 and I've done nearly all of those got 3 left

[smoky gorge]

Aaah you need to finish this first

[waxen terrace]

just do your assignments