So, most people beat it once, and don't requeue.
#deep-dive-discussion
feral atlas
obtuse pasture
If you are doing an EDD late in the week try it solo is my usual recommendation
also.. frankly Solo can be a lot easier.. and teaches you a lot of indepedence
feral atlas
as people beat the EDD, which they have the most time to during the weekend, the only people that end up being left trying public lobbies are the players that don't deserve to beat it
and the refresh is Thursday
obtuse pasture
The first time you solo an EDD will build a LOT of confidence for higher haz levels
feral atlas
To put it simply, trying the EDD in public lobbies Mon-Wed usually ends up with the team wiping in some pretty stupid ways.
Often hilarious ways.
But you still fail.
It's worse than usual right now because of the new weapons. People are trying them out and with one exception they're just awful against dreads unless built very specifically.
obtuse pasture
To put it simply, trying the EDD in public lobbies Mon-Wed usually ends up with ...
ironically i really like the LOK1 into most dreads.. except the hiveguard.. and there are 2 of them.. that sucks
verbal flame
Would gunner with Bullet Hell minigun OC and Elephant Rounds revolver be good for this week's EDD?
obtuse pasture
still solod it with lok1 engi..
feral atlas
LOK is the 1 exception
obtuse pasture
queue up a haz5 PE and a haz5 elime .. if you can solo both.. you should be fine
feral atlas
and the problem still is that most people don't use it right
obtuse pasture
LOK is the 1 exception
for me the LOK1 carried me through the EDD.. mostly because of excutioner with the T5 FEAR! .. that fear was a godsend.. i haven't checked post patch if it still works as well as before
feral atlas
I went vanilla engi. Stubby and BC
feral atlas
LOK is excellent for dread killing but too ammo hungry for other purposes, and in a team setting it makes you dependant on others.
brisk pine
my closest clear with engi was with lok 1 and triple beam BC
feral atlas
Refire.
brisk pine
tried again today with stubby and different BC build and didn't go as well
obtuse pasture
personally disagree.. in most team missions where i am running the LOK1 i have very few ammo issues.. unless i am playing really badly
brisk pine
the triple beam BC seems to be brutal against hiveguard
feral atlas
I'm speaking specfically about solo'ing a 4 man spawn volume.
If the rest of the team is competent, LOK should not have issues with ammo.
feral atlas
I don't. Which is why I don't take the LOK for pubs.
obtuse pasture
I'm speaking specfically about solo'ing a 4 man spawn volume.
under that situation.. you need to be using blowthrough optimally or you are going to have issues.. same with warthog and stubby to be blunt.. rely on BC and nades to clear chunks of the swarm and mop up with LOK is my go to.
feral atlas
any weapon that forces you to use it optimally to just succeed is riding on a thin margin of error
obtuse pasture
in terms of total damage available per resup depending on how you build and play the LOK1 it is pretty even..
not even optimally now that it has super blowthrough it is a lot easier (more forgiving)
feral atlas
the stubby has what's important: being braindead to use and spam
it's not a finesse weapon
and that's why it's reliable
brisk pine
stubby is the classic spray and pray smg
obtuse pasture
i guess I just have enough mission on the lok1 now that to me a lot of stuff is automatic.. (being spamming LOk1 exclusively since experimental) so I can play it well even pretty braindead now.. still make some mistakes in "panic situation" that can be very costly.. but ironing those out now..
obtuse pasture
Legit I am way more confident on the LOK1 than the warthog .. most of my engi time was spent on the stubby before that
feral atlas
not really; the issues with the weapon aren't low damage per resup
brisk pine
i tried the warthog again today after using the lok and the stubby for about a week and i can say it's really weird
and i even took it into an EDD attempt but it was horrible
feral atlas
it's being shit at close range, shit when you're being jumped, and needing to fulfill some conditions to achieve bonus damage in order to have comparable damage efficiency to something like an EM Refire Stubby
Stubby, all you need is aim and recoil and spread control
LOK needs aim, spacing, curving, managing lock amounts, etc
It requires more actions to achieve the bonus damage necessary to maintain ammo eco.
And that's more ways to mess up.
brisk pine
i will try stubby and triple beam BC a few times tomorrow, wanna see how that will go
obtuse pasture
but when played really well the rewards of the LOK1 are many.. so I guess it is a choice.. different guns do different things for different people
feral atlas
If you basically main the LOK it should become subconsious after a while, but the LOK isn't a weapon I would enjoy using unless I was scout.
brisk pine
the bullet curving is really nice with the lok
obtuse pasture
Warthog to me has always been a bit of a "meh" weapon.. it works well.. I just don't love it .. I like that the engi now has a weapon which isn't point and shoot braindead
naive bobcat
I have problems with its base dmg and lock on time now
feral atlas
I don't care how the weapon really works, I just want the bugs deader, quicker, and the LOK's built in trigger lag annoys me.
ebon anchor
LOK eats ammo so crazy fast for me
naive bobcat
Instead of ammo issues ironically
obtuse pasture
then again I ran EM discharge as my main build for a LONG time
naive bobcat
Warthog to me has always been a bit of a "meh" weapon.. it works well.. I just d...
I agree but the lok1 feels a bit weak in dmg and ttk compared to warthog
obtuse pasture
it isn't
naive bobcat
Lok1 is like stubby lol, bad unless you have the OCs like ECR and executioner
feral atlas
I honestly hate any charge weapon that doesn't allow you to hold the charge. I.E. the type where you can only charge after you spot an enemy. The only way to make me like it is if the weapon kills in 1 shot.
brisk pine
lok1 is not bad at all
obtuse pasture
keep in mind the charge time is just under 100ms/lock (i.e 1.2 seconds to full lock) - and you deliver the entire salve in 0.72s) - that is without executioner
feral atlas
The LOK basically has the firing mechanism and trigger lag of a lock on missile launcher, without the reward.
brisk pine
i've been using it without OCs and it's very very satisfying to use
obtuse pasture
so 2s to deliver 12 rounds. ish.. the effective ROF of the LOK1 is around 6-7
atomic prawn
same problem with the m1k aye
feral atlas
M1K at least you can pre-charge it
obtuse pasture
it's not the averaged rpm that's the issue
I get it. i really do. but I can live with it for the benefits it provides
atomic prawn
i personally don't mind it too badly, but yeah i get what you feel
obtuse pasture
LOK1 has longer engagement range (accuracy/damage at range/bullet fired) and has some unique effects (fear or explosions with ERC) that i find very appealing
feral atlas
I think all the other laggy weapons in this game you can either pre-charge or pre-rev, more or less
atomic prawn
i don't need longer range besides the hyperprop 😂
feral atlas
LOK I think is the only once that forces you to only charge after seeing the enemy
it's like a Halo plasma pistol, but I can't charge it until the stupid gold elite is in sight
a wee bit late at that point sometimes
obtuse pasture
you are not wrong.. but when talking about target aquisition to target dispatch.. you can dispatch targets at a further range with LOK1 than with warthog.. effectively.. it's a playstyle/engagement range choice
naive bobcat
Meanwhile me trying to curve the bullets to hit hiveguard armour is dying
naive bobcat
It's nice to be able to play sniper engineer and not be in a swarm for once
feral atlas
LOK is better for the fatter glowly spot
obtuse pasture
you can hit all 3 with single line but you need to be dead on to hit all 3
naive bobcat
Lok1 does shit dmg to the weakspot for me
feral atlas
people run something that isn't triple line for dreads?
obtuse pasture
people run something that isn't triple line for dreads?
I run a lot of plasma trail and if dreads happen so be it. .
for this EDD i switched to triple line
feral atlas
does plasma trail even damage dreads?
naive bobcat
I run plasma trail as default rn for testing
Feels good to shoot a BC into swarmer nest
obtuse pasture
2 hiveguards... sigh.. yeah plasma does work on dreads.. but really killing hiveguards with minimal pain justified the change
obtuse pasture
I really enjoy inferno + plasma trail.. it one shots a lot of things I don't want to waste mental effort on
feral atlas
their AI has the intelligence of an obese and drunk monkey
nearly the entire hiveguard add spawn will just crowd around a lure
butts out
obtuse pasture
my standard BC build makes getting through the dreads more irritating.. but playing the rest of the mission a breeze
feral atlas
not wasting mental energy is what the turrets are for
just space out when hammering them
naive bobcat
Turrets are useless against dreads right
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Turrets are useless against dreads right
They’re handy against the swarmer blobs that the OG dread tosses occasionally, but otherwise…meh
feral atlas
they hold fire now
they may still hit it while the butt is exposed
but in the invul state they don't shoot
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Maybe turret whip if you’re good with timing and fighting twins
feral atlas
turrets are just passive damage, and dealing with the adds
if you go full dread specialist your crowd killing power is quite low
i.e., hyper prop and a DPS Executioner
you'll need turrets to help clear the sentinels and the og dread swarmers
floral ermine
finally finish after 1hour... That edd was special one
atomic prawn
i still think turret whip n hyperprop is best
feral atlas
BC is more cost effective against sentinels though
atomic prawn
yea but like you can just whip it
feral atlas
Esp if you can group them up with a lure.
atomic prawn
yeah but that also means bringing lure lol
feral atlas
Also a better self defense weapon
upbeat obsidian
HP definitely suits more aggressive play. You have to rely on good turret placement and teamwork to keep stuff off your butt
red aurora
whoever designed the EDD I just want to talk I swear
atomic prawn
not surprised 😂 me and my brother play drg pretty aggressively
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whoever designed the EDD I just want to talk I swear
Believe it or not, it’s just “bad” RNG
upbeat obsidian
I run Hyper Prop with Turret EMD, since it easily covers the swarm clear you lose from your secondary
atomic prawn
can't stop won't stop 😂 helps tho, our PE clear times are s p e e d
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I run Hyper Prop with Turret EMD, since it easily covers the swarm clear you los...
Repruhzent, fun swarm clear and crazy HVT clear
red aurora
I know its just this first mission has got me titled
upbeat obsidian
The main problem people seem to be having on this EDD is being fast about it. There's a ton of hard to get nitra on the roof, and players get tunnel vision before they realise they're 20 minutes in and there's a Dread to fight still
red aurora
I mean furthest I got was solo cause I could tell bosco to get the aquarqs that were in the middle of nowhere high above
atomic prawn
20 min PE is already an achievement by itself 😂
red aurora
but then the big bug just comes and squashes me
upbeat obsidian
I just finished it as a three-man team, after Engi left (disconnected?) early and we kept at it. We ended up just ignoring stuff we couldn't get quickly and got the heck out of dodge, and the rest of the dive was smooth
Solo Point Extraction/Elim EDD is ok, until you account for having to warm up and go get 02, and you are in for pain.
red aurora
yeah....
think I might take one more crack at it solo scout, get an actual solo build
upbeat obsidian
Honestly, I think one of the big pitfalls for fighting that Dread is that players seem to want to hug the minehead, and seem to forget that time is a worse enemy than low 02. It's not a big deal to let it get low before you go to a resupply to get air. It doesn't have to constantly be full, while the Dread spins in place on the Minehead with its butt buried in bad geometry
atomic prawn
that's why you have a cryo driller
river pawn
EDD really bad this week?
i heard the final stage was easy but that matters the least to me
zealous coral
Low O2, point extract dreadnought for the first mission
river pawn
aquarq mission with low oxygen
yeah nope nevermind bye
zealous coral
At haz 4.5, and alot of hard to reach arquarqs and nitra. Bosco cant mine fast enough
zealous coral
Tried both solo and group (failed both) but group was definitely more chaotic. Solo, less in the swarm, group=insta down melee from 18 glyphids
^ That and the fact that every attempt starts with a bulk det... Or is that just me...
upbeat obsidian
It's not just you, but in at least one run for me, the bulk showed up a little in instead of immediately
red aurora
then the next is elite two dreadnaughts black box
I just had an elite detonator
god does not want me to do EDD this week
zealous coral
HAHAHAHAHAH
upbeat obsidian
Honestly, because of how open the cave is in Stage 1, NTP gunner or sticky flames driller can delete all of the swarms to give the team breathing room by just paying attention and keeping an eye out
zealous coral
NTP?
upbeat obsidian
I just had an elite detonator
My team had a detonator spawn just around the corner as soon as we activated the black box. We hit it hard, scattered, blew it up on the box, and all ran back in to finish the objective xD
atomic prawn
neurotoxin payload
zealous coral
Oooo
atomic prawn
slow and poison autocannon
red aurora
yeah I give up on EDD this week, the combos are cancer
atomic prawn
i wouldn't say it's best to bring for an elims heavy edd
zealous coral
Personal opinion, carpet bomber or neurotoxin?
atomic prawn
but like, still usable
upbeat obsidian
Neurotoxin plays really nice with Volatile Guts. Poison a big group, and when the lead one pops, the whole group will chain
atomic prawn
i like NTP more, defs ntp over cb for this edd
upbeat obsidian
Neuro is fine against Dreads. The slow works, and it doesn't lose much direct damage. I take the direct damage mod on it specifically so you can DPS down Dreads or big guys if you have to
upbeat obsidian
Volatile Guts is a bonus for the team, not a hazard
atomic prawn
it's more negative than positive tbh
red aurora
doubt honestly
atomic prawn
volatile guts is a damned hazard 😂
upbeat obsidian
It's only a negative if you insist on relying on Vampire for heals xD
zealous coral
Unless they swarm you and you kill one... Then you die
red aurora
with the slowed movement speed of snow zone and getting swarmed....
yeah I did first stage im not doing anymore
rerooooolll
upbeat obsidian
I did only mention it in the context of how nice it is with NTP, to be fair. Don't kill 18 bugs right beside you, and it's not a hazard 
(It's nice with sticky flames too, popcorn gaming)
zealous coral
Petition to rename volatile guts to popcorn bugs
placid turret
anyone know how to make sure molly doesnt move at all
just lost the last mission because the mule wouldnt stop moving, ran out of nitra
and couldnt put any more in molly because wouldnt stop moving
atomic prawn
Maybe stop having people call it back and forth?
deft roost
I noticed this in a solo with haunted. Everytime I got far enough to leave the haunted, and run back to Molly she was following automatically without a call because I was getting too close to resource node.
atomic prawn
lol just did edd again, eng n scout duo, god damn jellies are a pain 😂
deft roost
Couldn't complete because she would not stop auto moving sadg.e
atomic prawn
F
acoustic bolt
Does anyone think devs do adjustment to the EDDs to make it especially tortuous sometimes?
mellow cove
They don't
Dives are generated just like any other missions, devs don't select them manually or playtest before release
weary jasper
Succeeded in my first deep dive a while ago and doing it again for a victory lap 😄
acoustic bolt
lel
acoustic bolt
Succeeded in my first deep dive a while ago and doing it again for a victory lap...
gg. My first deep dive was hectic 3 back to back det spawns on top of dread
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ruby glacier
is this week's edd pretty hard?
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is this week's edd pretty hard?
Based on comments in the channel here, harder than average.
normal finch
ive done over a dozen times in EDD first stage
and only reached 2nd stage twice so far
couldnt complete 2nd stage either coz not enough nitra
im kinda thinking that duo or trio the EDD is better than a full 4-man team
severe tusk
In missions where nitra is tight, that can definitely be the case. Otherwise, a 4 man team has to be quick and efficient.
finite viper
on my successful attempt stage 2 wasn't nitra tight since we got about 400 nitra in the first phase
ruby glacier
cave gen was pretty awful though god
humble ravine
Hey all. I did the EDD just last night. The dive is pretty tight on nitra, but the key seems to be taking the dread fights in suitable locations. In the first stage there is a wide open cave up a cliff from the minehead. In the second stage, there are two nice, open rooms for taking the dread fights. Don't get split up and you'll be fine.
ruby glacier
there's a bunch of nitra in the first stage in the higher up sections and near the minehead as well
i think i got into the second stage with about 250 nitra?
humble ravine
i think i got into the second stage with about 250 nitra?
You need to go get before the swarms hit, though.
ruby glacier
anyone know how to make sure molly doesnt move at all
if you spam call molly fast enough she'll pretty much stay on the same spot to make it easier to deposit
and yeah I just cleared first swarm and popped the egg and then got enough for a pod while killing the hiveguard
timid totem
first time trying the elite deep dive for this week went sour, I slept on it and did the whole thing first try the next day with me buddy
😎
timid totem
Hey all. I did the EDD just last night. The dive is pretty tight on nitra, but t...
I'll be honest that first mission is the hardest one if you aren't prepared or have a team
I'm pretty sure there is a scripted swarm during the hiveguard fight as well
I tried experimenting fighting it as early as possible and as late as possible, always summoned a swarm
restive tartan
I’m about to start doing deep dives. Are they not procedurally generated?
sullen nest
They're generated once prior to being released and then locked in. Everyone plays the same exact fixed generation every time they attempt a dive.
Things that may change include swarms, and some fixed enemy locations, which are generally (I think) dependant on the size of your squad. Some things like uplink locations in salvage missions may also change. Nitra and gold will always be in the same place.
Another way to phrase it would be that each given dive uses a fixed cavegen seed that is shared among all players.
obtuse pasture
3rd stage is a luxury cruise
native pivot
I completed 2/3 missions on deep dive. When I start the dive again will it restart the entire deep dive or send me to the the third?
feral atlas
Restart from the beginning.
native pivot
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opal minnow
Anyone else have the acid spitter mob spawn after the first dread on EDD stage 2? Lmao
thorny geyser
First stage is a grind if you dont take out hiveguard right away.
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slim holly
well after trying edd like 7 times, i can say it's not "hard". it's broken and unbalanced is all. this should not be okay. at the very least each challenge should be doable in single player
merry geode
Me and my friend did it first try
just have a scout who is decent and can stay alive
stage 1 can get hectic but just keep running
slim holly
Me and my friend did it first try
in single player?
pure arch
Agreed
thorny geyser
its doable as solo scout
ashen patrol
i got a elite prae covering an elite slasher through the smaller chokepoint, got my knees chopped off. i probably couldve done it with embedded dets i wanted the swarmer control of cryo minelets for stage 1 xd.
thorny geyser
I just magdumped on them with custom casings + conductive bullets
IFG is so amazing in that chokepoint
slate pine
Dang, this is the first time I reached the bottom without finding enough morkite to finish the mission, in the regular dive this time.
found the rest around a pillar in the previous room
wheat socket
anyone did the elite DD yet?
sullen nest
Possibly
sullen nest
Stage one is by far the worst of it
Rush a supply drop and get the dread out of the way asap so you don't get overrun - since it's Point Extraction, there's constant swarms that get worse over time, and they won't stop coming just because you're fighting a dreadnought
Once you're past stage one it's mostly smooth sailing
Just watch out for leeches in the third stage
The specific modifiers are in the pinned messages
wheat socket
oh shit point extraction
i just took too long for a haz 4 point extraction and barely made it
if thats the case in the DD
sounds tough
sullen nest
Yeah they're super rough if you're not going fast ;;
wheat socket
i guess i have to try to speedrun
always funny
that elite dd feels like haz 4-5.5
pretty much at times
atomic prawn
For my 2-man run, the aq was done in 5 mins post-drop, stage 1 dread took us 1.30 to clear with 2 people
pressed the pod button at 9.30 😂
the aq that's inside the egg was the biggest pain to find
torpid beacon
Me and my friends are having a lot of problems with this week’s elite deep dive. We have a driller, gunner and engineer, any tips on what to do? We keep struggling on the first phase way too much.
naive bobcat
Get 80 nitra and start the dread asap after a wave
torpid beacon
We’ve never actually done an elite deep dive before this is our first attempt on one
naive bobcat
You probably need a scout for this edd
torpid beacon
Noted, any ideas for how to deal with the swarms?
I can also play scout decently well instead of driller
naive bobcat
Finish stage 1 fast, the swarm slowly gets bigger and bigger with time
Get 1 resub, kill dread then rush aquarq
torpid beacon
Alright, we’re going to try again
naive bobcat
Driller isn't very useful this edd since there's 2 elimination objectives
torpid beacon
Playing scout, got an engineer and gunner
naive bobcat
Good luck
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Driller isn't very useful this edd since there's 2 elimination objectives
laughs in cryo
(Though to be fair, it's only powerful against dreads if you have reasonably aware teammates)
dark hound
anybody know a special search for deep dives in the server browser? I only see one when I filter by 'deep dive'
naive bobcat
Go to the deep dive terminal and look from there?
keen vine
anyone else getting a shitload of bulks on the EDD?
fickle zephyr
keen vine
2 bulks in the first 15 minutes of stage 1
placid turret
2 bulks in one swarm on stage 2
humble silo
alright: who wants to do something incredibly stupid
left salmon
I do so wish there was actual incentive to do multiple deep dives a week
brisk pagoda
*laughs in cryo*
(Though to be fair, it's only powerful against dreads if you h...
the timing is very tight but you can freeze and ice spear combo a dread. or freeze and double throwing axe.
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Yeah. Just not nearly as fun as teeing up “freezing now!” over voice chat and having the whole team unload
brisk pagoda
i mean, its got an icon that fills up
pseudo mason
summer wigeon
Autocorrect
charred radish
I finally completed the EDD!
hazy dirge
Niceee I only just tried it solo a few times today but got taken by surprise on the second stage
Shame I missed out on the weapon core this week 😦
charred radish
how about trying with a team?
hazy dirge
Eh it’s a bit late for me now I’m about to go to sleep haha
Seems quite tricky this weeks EDD though, I thought it might’ve been because I’ve only recently started playing again but I’m not sure
oblique meadow
Nah this week's EDD blows. It's not you. Realistically having a dread on a point extraction just isn't balanced. Then you add the verticality, the fact that it's low oxygen, and that you don't even have a full resupply in the immediate area (unless you have a scout), it's just terribly unbalanced.
I ended up just soloing the first mission and letting Bosco do it instead of playing with a team, but it just wasn't fun. They either need to adjust the swarm mechanic or tweak when the endless swarms appear when there's a dread.
dense orchid
Nah this week's EDD blows. It's not you. Realistically having a dread on a point...
What I need is a scout and engineer that work together 😩
atomic prawn
it's doable easily for engie/scout duo
driller/gunner if you can epc well, and ziplines help for O2 and hard to epc aquarqs
supple quarry
Nah this week's EDD blows. It's not you. Realistically having a dread on a point...
PE + Dread is pretty much the only combo that makes a DD feel different compared to a classic H5 assignment, if you end up doing it solo rather than with a team, then maybe it isn't a balanced issue but a team issue
That being said, it's not denying that it wasn't a easy one, as you pointed out
final current
Did my first deep dive yesterday... hell was my first thought
I also need some strategies as scout
atomic prawn
like solo scout?
final current
Yea
vast cosmos
Whats the fastest way to change my specialty beer? Im playing solo
alpine mauve
atomic prawn
Yea
bosco on aq while you get enough nitra for a resup, then start the fight, and while fighting, kite around and ping any aq you see so bosco can get them while you're fighting
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quiet mortar
DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Silent Vault
Stage 1: 
2 M.U.L.E.s + 
150 Morkite | 
No Mutators!
Stage 2: 
6 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | 
Swarmageddon
Stage 3: 
Protect the Drilldozer + 2 Eggs | Low Oxygen
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Endless Hammer
Stage 1: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Elite Threat
Stage 2: 200 Morkite + 📡 1x Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Critical Weakness Regenerative Bugs
broken shore
EDD 2nd 200 Morkite + 1 black box / cave leech cluster
near swift
oh thank god that sounds like a breeze
merry geode
Don't jinx it
quiet mortar
Oh it's already Jinx'd
We got 2 Drilldozers
quiet mortar
XD
atomic prawn
breezed through the double elims for stage 2 dd just before the new ones came in
maybe they should make it triple elims next time
near swift
i'm playing gunner and i'm still doing the 'safe method' for the edd drilldozer
digging all the way to the heartstone to collect all the nitra and gold before any threat of swarms so i can just focus on oil
atomic prawn
pain
near swift
what's the pain that sounds easy
atomic prawn
6 eggs is tedious
near swift
critical weakness makes it a cake walk
atomic prawn
ah well, at least it's not 8 eggs or 10 aq
covert plaza
same as DD
near swift
yep it's just another chance at getting more overclocks
covert plaza
3 cores and 20k gold and exp
hot grotto
guess I'll look for a group when I get back
near swift
just be wary and be ready, it's among the most difficult things you can do in the game
hot grotto
ive dealt with haz 5
atomic prawn
same rewards as DD
hot grotto
it can be a bit bothersome
near swift
the last level is haz 5.5
atomic prawn
just if you wanna greed for more cores you do a tougher gauntlet
near swift
also there are 2 warnings in every edd
covert plaza
gauntlet?
hot grotto
I really do want me those overclocks
near swift
gauntlet is a term for 'a series of challenges'
covert plaza
ight
merry geode
this weeks edd seems easier than last weeks
near swift
and last week's was pretty easy past stage 1
hot grotto
anything I should know before I embark on the EDD
atomic prawn
don't die
near swift
if ever there was a time to be on your game and bring your best stuff, edd is it
only harder missions in the game are like, certain mission types on haz 5 with two very difficult warnings
wheat solstice
gonna attempt deep dive with 10x the spawn rate, wish me luck
near swift
christ alive elite menaces and mactera on a drilldozer mission
fucking awful
had to tank the dozer through the last 10 or so seconds and nearly got below 10% integrity on the last healthbar because the first two got completely nuked by two menaces that spawned
sick mural
anything I should know before I embark on the EDD
Having spare Nitra from the previous missions is often critical for the later ones. Sometimes you should expect to play very defensively from the beginning of part 2 or 3 of the EDD and should consider calling a resupply immediately if you were low at the end of the last one.
hot grotto
why dozer in EDD???
brisk pine
with elite threat lmao
rustic temple
reddit hasn't post dd and edd stages? o.o
flat terrace
lol damn waiting past 30minutes for players to do EDD is pain
wet pond
reddit hasn't post dd and edd stages? o.o
check pins for stages
quiet mortar
reddit hasn't post dd and edd stages? o.o
There is one on Reddit, I just am having weird issues with it not showing up :(
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/r1ua3x/deep_dives_25th_of_november_2021/
obtuse pasture
So EDD stage 1 is a 1 stopper?
wheat solstice
made it past the first stage
quiet mortar
So EDD stage 1 is a 1 stopper?
As always, yep
obtuse pasture
As always, yep
I assumed
quiet mortar
2 stops don't exist in Deep Dives, haven't for a while I believe
obtuse pasture
Elite modifier is straight up my worst modifier .... HATE IT. At least it is stage 1.. so i don't get RNGed into the ground in a stage 3 elite
already having flashbacks of the 3x elite menaces + drilldozer nightmare of the past
quartz badge
2 stops don't exist in Deep Dives, haven't for a while I believe
Correct, they used to have a chance for 2 stops after Escort/Refinery were implemented. People complained a lot (for a good reason imo) and it was changed after a while
wanton vessel
how cancer is this week's EDD compared to last?
obtuse pasture
https://i.imgur.com/9IJuRyP.png
If I recall you really hated last weeks
near swift
i hated the first room but otherwise it was really fun
the first room was a low oxygen 10 aquarq so naturally it was just awful
but the ensuing two rooms were nice and challenging
obtuse pasture
yeah once I got through the great filter that was Stage1 last week it wasn't bad.. elite modifier is not that rough on elim because you only get passive waves
near swift
yep
this week is kind of similar
the first stage was a nightmare
but the second was easy and the third was basically nothing because of crit weakness
obtuse pasture
Elite Mod on salvage from a few weeks/monhts ago was some of the worst luck I have had in DRG ever
I think I repeated stage 2 about 6x before I didn't get absolutely ass-blasted during the salvage phase
near swift
first stage this week is pretty fucking bad honestly, i had to defend the dozer from elite trijaws and elite menaces
had two elite menaces spawn and just shred two healthbars off the dozer
and ended up having to just stick to it and repair it in the last half of the last bar because so many enemies were spawning that if i stopped to kill any of them it'd be destroyed
if it had gone on for just a couple more seconds i'dve probably lost the dozer
obtuse pasture
first stage this week is pretty fucking bad honestly, i had to defend the dozer ...
yup elite menaces are my big fear on dozer missions.. but solo dozer missions are always a juggle
brisk pine
at least it's not the shitshow last week's stage 1 was
followed by an awkward stage 2
at least this time, if you pass stage 1, the rest should be fine
zealous coral
6 eggs
brisk pine
6 eggs with good coordination in a full team can be super fast
you can finish the mission in 10 minutes
solo it's kinda more tedious, sure
fresh sedge
i soloed it without getting downed
gg!
near swift
6 eggs was nothing
it's on a critical weakness level so it might as well have been haz 3
celest oasis
do you guys just pop multiple eggs at once ?
azure wraith
no
celest oasis
but isnt there a spawn cap
atomic prawn
depends, if it's deep dive yeah why not
edd i'll uhhh do em one at a time most times 😂
steep finch
Deep Dive this time had so much nitra we were floating 500 by the time we started part 3
Then I just spammed nukes during the Ommoran defense in the last part
atomic prawn
haven't done the new one, but damn, 500?! 😂
steep finch
Yeah the second part especially had tons of nitra on the walls, though we had some fun with surprise pitfalls in that map
drifting parcel
do buff beers last the duration of a DD or just first mission
cobalt fiber
do buff beers last the duration of a DD or just first mission
The whole dive.
drifting parcel
dope
lime bobcat
I did last weeks DD and EDD as well as this weeks DD and EDD all in a row today. This weeks EDD felt like easy mode compared to last weeks first EDD mission. Do the dives always differ that much in their difficulty?
tidal spruce
one: low o2 can go screw off. but regen bugs + critical weakness can stay
also, elite threat drilldozer can go suck on a bulk
even if its just haz 4.5
shell tapir
you just need to use most of your nitra in mission 1 and rly focus elites
rest of the EDD is pretty easy
odd rover
I did last weeks DD and EDD as well as this weeks DD and EDD all in a row today....
Yes, the biome, terrain generation, enemy composition, and objective combinations can all change how hard the dives actually are beyond the hazard level.
lime bobcat
yeah, point extraction feels like a nightmare in an EDD. There is no time to breath at all. Seriously the first time I skipped mining gold in this game. Gold Veins feel like the biome is baiting you to greed and die.
jolly hazel
just waiting for the first person to have elite bulks spawn on their edd dozer mission
rapid salmon
Wow, no dreadnoughts anywhere? No point extraction?
This week seems pretty piss easy.
steep finch
Elite Threat -> Doretta. This seems problematic
plush cosmos
Low oxy + no mule = absolute ass
unless you're scout and can actually make it between the hub area and whatever objective you're trying to complete quickly
whether that's aquarqs or pipelines
shell tapir
This week seems pretty piss easy.
don't underestimate elite threat on the first part it was the spookiest for me, doretta got mauled
sand storms in EDD are very scary
and sand sharks are dickheads
rapid salmon
that's the only one that gives me pause
but my dwarf dick is huge and full of plutonium. i bet i can handle it
foggy pine
What class is the best for EDD solo? Engi?
wraith shard
last stage is a nightmare
near swift
What class is the best for EDD solo? Engi?
i typically play gunner
velvet gorge
Anyone know the EDD mods?
feral atlas
See pins
obtuse pasture
one: low o2 can go screw off. but regen bugs + critical weakness can stay
doing the escort solo and literally playing hold E simulator for 30s praying that i could outrepair an army and some beamers slapping doretta... got through with 10% left on dotty at most.. rest was easy mode
abstract dew
I did last weeks DD and EDD as well as this weeks DD and EDD all in a row today....
Modifiers are a massive part of things. On the last mission, if you have lethal enemies, it takes five hits from a grunt to kill a dwarf. It's actually nonsense
brisk pine
just did DD and EDD with randoms
we breezed through stage 1 and 2 but we came really close at stage 3
on EDD
obtuse pasture
EDD 2/3 were super easy .. by recent EDD standard.
Stage 1.. was a little special solo
brisk pine
we almost wiped twice on stage 3 because of trawlers and swarmers
odd path
2 refuels stage 1 in EDD? or 1?
brisk pine
1
obtuse pasture
2 refuels stage 1 in EDD? or 1?
1
stage 1 on my solo run i died twice to trawler knockup into a bad situation with elites
pack of elite slashers is no joke and elite grabbers and menaces can die in a fire
I love cave leech cluster though.. easiest modifier besides regen bugs.. did get THREE bulks on Stage 3.. but lucky for me .. critical weakness.. I almost killed myself because I didn't expect a few shots to trigger the bulk!
abstract dew
Honestly I think cave leech cluster makes cave leeches less of a problem
odd path
Because you're expecting them
abstract dew
exactly
odd path
obtuse pasture
solo .. engi.. cave leech.. ROFL.. between bosco and turrets you barely notice they exist unless you get yeeted into a room by a trawler... which may or may not have happened on my run...
abstract dew
trawlers bother me infinitely more than cave leeches
azure wraith
Both the dd and edd were pretty easy this week
gusty fern
Anything to be aware of for edd this week?
brisk pine
EDD on the other hand was many times easier this week
elite threat dozer stage 1
sandblasted biome
gusty fern
Well easiest biome always helps
obtuse pasture
you can get suckerpunched by elite menaces slapping doretta in the face
brisk pine
but there were like 4 or 5 menaces spawning throughout the mission
gusty fern
I mean trawlers suck, but there's no other hazards, has generally very forgiving layouts, and is highly visible
brisk pine
there's the air vents and sandstorm
obtuse pasture
yeah sandblasted is pretty nice.. stage 3 has a potentially dangerous layout.. send the scout into the pit!
I had 3 bulks on stage 3 .. so that pit was a mess
brisk pine
there was 1 bulk that spawned at the end of stage 3
with just the scout remaining alive cause swarm popped up with us in a tight corridor
obtuse pasture
critical weakness is really a super easy offset to regen bugs.. if had 3 bulks with regen bugs and no cirtical .. the risk of ammo wastage is high
but there is a LOT of nitra on this EDD at least readily accessible.. I wasn't even trying that hard and dropping resups whenever I felt like it and still has over 200 in the bank at the end
brisk pine
the praet spawn rate was also ridiculous
uhhh, we dropped quite a few resupps in all stages
and still had 200 spare by the end of stage 3
we called like 4 or 5 in stage 1, another 3 or so in stage 2 and another 2 or 3 in stage 3
that was also my first EDD clear 
obtuse pasture
now you gotta do a no death clear
had my first successful no death no bosco clear a few EDDs back.. felt super good..to be fair without bosco you can only run IW as a plan B.. if you get leeched DD over
neat oxide
@obtuse pasture IW stands for what again?
obtuse pasture
Iron Will
neat oxide
right, thx
obtuse pasture
When playing solo without bosco.. IW is your only lifeline
neat oxide
makes sense.
obtuse pasture
seriously though I did some haz5 missions solo without our robotic friend and it really does give some mega confidence ,, makes deep dives chill
sage temple
kinda bummed there's no eliminations this week
obtuse pasture
I am super happy we get a week off from dread killing
sage temple
baaahhhhhh, hurricane go burrrrrrrrrrr
breach cutter go burrrrrrrrrr
bug go splat
unga bunga
hot grotto
hurricane with the homebrew over clock practically melts anything with a weak point
granted you lose out on wave clear but provided your teammates and secondary can cover for that you should be fine
long ice
is this week EDD easy or hard
wanton shell
Depends if you have a scout who starts events during swarms 😦
brisk pine
much easier than last 2 EDDs
frail patrol
is this week EDD easy or hard
i think the consensus was the EDD was much eeasier
crimson tinsel
Had a little trouble between the end of the second stage and the beginning of the third stage because the driller took my resupply and then immediately jumped down the pit on Stage 3 and died. Then got mad at the scout for not reviving him and left the game.
azure wraith
I had 3 bulks on stage 3 .. so that pit was a mess
I also had 3 bulks and two of those spawned at the same time at the same spot
Was a real "oh shit oh fuck" moment
crimson tinsel
Stage 3 bulks get melted though because of critical weakness
lucid hedge
This EDD is ridiculously easy compared to last week
I never felt any pressure at all
near swift
i found the first stage to be brutal just because i got elite macteras and menaces
that were just ripping the dozer to shreds
but other than that it was pretty fuckin easy yeah
weak carbon
stage 3 has a bad cave layout but thats it
foggy pine
Thinking of using Engi to solo this week's deep dives, since it has a lot of "one spot defence" with salvage and escort.
How does that sound?
brisk pine
engi is probably the best choice for solo
i did pick engi for EDD but i got into random group
for DD i just picked scout, since it's so easy, it doesn't matter to me, lol
only got downed once by a stupid decision
i feel like scout is not that good of a choice for this EDD
since you need to keep shooting cause elite threats
green sequoia
whats the EDD ?
carmine badge
whats the EDD ?
you can check the pinned message. it updates weekly with both the regular deep dive and elite deep dive info
green sequoia
thanks
odd path
EDD Stage 3 was almost relaxed. Pick out a wider platform and let Bosco do the egg digging.
Grunts are so fast tho holy shit
obtuse pasture
yup.. slashers.. sigh ... slasher
brisk pagoda
since you need to keep shooting cause elite threats
scout is very good at killing elites because of his accurate weapons focused on crit damage. he should let his team deal with the small weak things like swarmers and basic grunts.
brisk pine
that's assuming you play with a team
some people play solo, so engi is the best choice this edd
brisk pagoda
solo you should probably just go gunner
near swift
solo you should absolutely go gunner
lucid hedge
this EDD is cake, just play your favorite character
crimson tinsel
Goku?
umbral abyss
Where can I check the current elite deep dive?
jolly hazel
pins
crimson tinsel
Got everything done this morning, provided a good mood uplifter
narrow granite
Thank goodness low o2 is on doretta, would be super annoying otherwise
tame geode
Gotta love dying on the last stage of the deep dive because my xbox shut off
guess i will try again
tame geode
Normal still annoying as i was like 20 meter from the droppod
tame geode
Yeah the first dd is pretty easy even when soloing
iron sail
Edd easy this week?
narrow granite
Looks like it
tame geode
Only annoying thing in the edd is the elite threat i suppose
Otherwise it seems pretty chill
narrow granite
Critical weakness kinda cancels out the regenerative bugs on stage 3 since everything dies so fast
Watch out for cave leeches on stage 2 and you're probably good
fiery kiln
can you get machine events on deep dives
narrow granite
Nothing you could farm
iron sail
Yeah
narrow granite
Critical weaknesd OP, in a word
I think it's rare enough to not be a big problem, but in edd it's a little nonsensical.
crimson tinsel
I saw a bulk get absolutely deleted on Stage 3 before remembering what modifier was on
foggy pine
Any advice for solo EDD in general? Haven't tried it yet, but I did try hzd 5 normal mission, and they were very intense. I would get overwhelmed often.
shell tapir
critical weakness basically reduces effective hazard level by like 1,5
boreal glade
yeah this week's EDD was pretty chill (at least in EDD terms it was chill). worst thing was the elite grabbers on stage 1
iron pelican
The game crashed at the end of stage 3 for me T-T
fallow niche
crit weakness is adjacent to godmode almost regardless of haz level, frankly
it's so fucking good to have it's unreal
junior tangle
wish that were true
lucid hedge
I mean, it's not like it's on all 3 stages. Sometimes you get a brutal warning like shield disruption
I think having a random seed is fine
fallow niche
knocked out the EDD as solo gunner and finished with a little over 600 nitra to spare, heh
stuck hamlet
duo engi scout, this weekly dd was ez af
we ended up with a comically large nitra pool, so we called 9 resupply close to dotty
doing low resupply on top of a dd is almost a must lol
upbeat obsidian
I love finishing a DD with nitra-henge set up around something
tribal totem
the normal DD was fairly easy to solo this week as engi
good test of my skill for my last mission before i get my promotion assignment to join the ranks of silver star engis
obtuse pasture
Crit weakness really does make Stage 3 a cakewalk.. unless you do something pretty foolish... it is easy. Stage 1 is like all elite modifiers.. sometimes you get a bunch of elite praetorian and some random elite mactera.. sometimes you get 3 elite menaces that blow dotty to oblivion.. or the random pack of 4 elite guards and a few elite slashers that spawn right on you.. Really this weeks DD and EDD were very easy to solo or team by comparison to recent ones..
Even escort low O2 .. you forget the low O2 because you have 1 leg shackled to dotty for half the mission anyway
lucid hedge
yeah escort low o2 in general is basically a free modifier
since it has zero impact on the game
EDD took me 43 mins this week, less than the 47 mins for regular DD lol
that's how easy it was
foggy pine
Crit weakness really does make Stage 3 a cakewalk.. unless you do something pret...
I forgot to resupply, and almost died because I had no ammo for breach cutter, no ammo in turrets and no grenades 😂
So that last stage turned out to be the most intense.
Left with 1 revive left on bosco.
fresh sedge
714 kills on that EDD
keen vine
at least EDD is only 1 refuel though
fresh sedge
Yeah they don’t do 2 anymore
fallow niche
yeah i suppose the best time to have escort duty on EDD is right at the beginning, as if something stupid happens (e.g. elite menace shows up and nobody shoots it) and the dozer explodes, you dont lose over half an hour of progress
jolly hazel
gunner left 5 seconds after landing on first stage of edd, driller left at first stop, me and scout finished the rest of it under an hour
first stage is only hairy if you get unlucky menace spawns lol
night granite
by the time I left the DD, I used the excess supply pods to turn dense biozone into radioactive exclusion
keen vine
thank god
fossil orbit
wake it up bet cs a pushover
fallow niche
definitely easier, i'd say
stage 1 is the only one that should give you much trouble with elite spawns going after the dozer, after that it's more or less smooth sailing
keen vine
How’s the EDD this week?
stage 3 is laughably easy, stage 2 is meh and stage 1 is meh
there's around 300 nitra in stage 1, 200 in stage 2 and like 300 in stage 3 that we found
jolly hazel
yeah all really accessible too
knotty ivy
ashen vortex
Could someone describe Deep Dives in a nutshell? Never done one before.
atomic prawn
3 missions in a row, keep your health, ammo, and mined shit throughout
basically doing 6 "primary" styled objectives across 3 maps
frail patrol
holy shite that sounds like hell
regular DD can usually be solo'd with 0 issues whatsoever. Bosco OP. EDD can take some getting used to (except this week, its also pretty easy)
lucid hedge
holy shite that sounds like hell
a lot of times the carry over nitro more than makes up for starting w/ partial ammo
what makes it hell is if the week's draw is crazy difficult
like last week's you had to fight a hiveguard w/ swarms coming at you
in the first mission of EDD
prime egret
aight that first stage of the edd was bullshit, both of the times we tried it we lost 2 armor pieces to the rocks because every 4th rock spawned in instant attack range of the drilldozer
also Lok-1 doesn't do so well against the rocks if they're directly above the dozer, if they go down the rest of the burst will miss
prime egret
aight that first stage of the edd was bullshit, both of the times we tried it we...
didn't actually fail the first stage any of the times, but that was still stupid
mellow cove
I lost one part of dozer because I got grabbed by elite grabber and two other parts because I got grabbed by trawler
prime egret
yeah we had to deal with grabbers too lol. trawler caused some problems. also there were wayyy too many rocks considering there were only 2 of us
placid crane
aight that first stage of the edd was bullshit, both of the times we tried it we...
Every single rock in solo almost immediately attacked.
Lost two parts, second part died in the last two seconds of the last stage
I failed it once because the game spawned two elite mactera spawn and four other mactera at once, so that was fun.
They didn't show up but this time an elite grabber was waiting for me instead of a normal grabber, so inconsistent
flat bough
tomorrow i'm gonna try to solo the EDD. any advice y'all have? (i just kinda like to ask-)
placid crane
tomorrow i'm gonna try to solo the EDD. any advice y'all have? (i just kinda lik...
if all else fails, tank doretta
patent cliff
Should we do the BETC on second stage
placid crane
It's in the second room, right?
or, well last room
I didn't have to, there's morkite on the wall on the left
when you enter the room
and there's like, alot of morkite in the first room
patent cliff
Yeah is there nitra in that room or anything worth getting
placid crane
If you go down from the tunnel from the black box you'll find ~60 nitra
You don't need to go down in the room or around, there is one sneaky leech
Maybe I should'nt have said that 👀
patent cliff
|| our scout already found it on the alst run lol ||
zealous coral
||10/10 must have experience in any Deep Dive... someone gets leeched||
wraith shard
how hard is the EDD?
shadow shoal
This Deep Dive was honestly rough. First stage kept spamming menaces, and second kept spamming Grabbers
was very spooky
rustic fjord
Got 3 bulks on stage 1 edd
Same run
Needless to say, i didnt complete the first stage
brisk pine
stage 1 can be a pain but somehow breezed through first try with randoms
quiet zenith
How long does a Deep dive take on average?
Running on a laptop, so if its more than an hour blasted thing will turn into a a slab of molten plastic
short heron
just close chrome 5head
quiet zenith
quiet zenith
Gotcha
sinful oak
I'm gonna try this week deep dive solo with driller, is it doable if i bring crspr and tcf epc?
long knoll
damn this elite deep dive was kind of a pushover
long knoll
I'm gonna try this week deep dive solo with driller, is it doable if i bring crs...
yes
sinful oak
Okay. Last week dd was quite painful with bosco
long knoll
edd or regular dd
sinful oak
Regular dd solo, graduation test before branching out to another class. I'm a greenbeard 
long knoll
ahh ok, well good luck, and im not sure about normal dd but crspr and thin containment should work well
wraith shard
stage 3 was the hardest for us, but I've finally completed my first edd
slender river
Well that EDD was a breeze, watch out for bulks on stage 1 though, make sure whoever it is following gets the hell away from doretta. Basically your success is determined by self-aware competency in your team as per usual, so gl
radiant obsidian
aight that first stage of the edd was bullshit, both of the times we tried it we...
a platform shield really works if you're having trouble
trail hound
Damn, this edd was easy as hell
I didn't find out it was an edd until edd 2
I thought I was queuing up for DD
wispy harbor
Damn it this EDD immediately reminds me why I really dislike Escort duty solo
obtuse pasture
this EDD really is easy unless you roll unlucky elites on stage 1
Stage 3 is a joke
wispy harbor
Well id consider myself unlucky there with elite menace's
Can't repair and kill them quickly
obtuse pasture
Well id consider myself unlucky there with elite menace's
yup Elite menaces are the the number 1.. "fuck your escort mission" rng of choice.. add in some elite grabbers so you are doing nothing while they pound dotty into dust.. double bonus..
stuck moth
The layout of the map is what makes this edd challenging for the non veterans
fresh sedge
Just NTP and coast.
crimson tinsel
And careless teammates diving into the pit
I also was playing as Engie which is my least played dwarf
fresh sedge
I think I could have got 1,000 kills if I had a different build this EDD.
crimson tinsel
I think I had about 900
tidal spruce
DOT kills don't count for kills? what
old widget
I think they only count if your DoT tick does the kill, so e.g. if you use neurotoxin AC on a pile of bugs and chip them down to 10% health and driller comes along and flames them all to death then driller gets all the kills
sullen nest
if you deal damage to an enemy it counts as a kill when it dies
fluid fern
I think they only count if your DoT tick does the kill, so e.g. if you use neuro...
It doesn't really matter who gets the kills, it's cooperative! 🙂
I don't grade people based on # of bugs killed or mined, that info isn't really meant to imply that someone did better than another player; It's more-so an indicator of your own personal effort that mission
There's so much more that goes into doing well than just killing bugs and mining, teamwork and having a good time are the most important things imo
old widget
Oh same. Was just answering a game mechanics question
fringe kettle
It doesn't really matter who gets the kills, it's cooperative! 🙂
But I don't want some of the kills, I want all of the kills!
rapid salmon
woof, that first one was kinda rough
It came down to me just spamming my shield down and repairing doretta constantly for the last few moments
It wouldn't have been so close, however, if a bloody Oppressor didn't camp on Doretta and keep attacking her... while his butt was INSIDE doretta
I couldn't hit it. Had to rely on Bosco's magical clipping power to take it out, somehow
but that cost me the entire right side of her
thorn cosmos
whats the EDD course this week
supple jewel
this EDD really is easy unless you roll unlucky elites on stage 1
we got 2 dreads stage 2 ☠️
wraith shard
Stage one is the tough part of the edd. Watch out for leeches stage 2
brisk pine
how do you guys get dread spawns in swarms????
thick summit
Round 1 was the wrost
cursive zodiac
Anyone on PC looking to do EDD?
wet pond
how do you guys get dread spawns in swarms????
since update 35, dreads have a very small chance to spawn during a mission, i've only seen 2 in at least 200hr since update 35 (nearly all of which was haz 5)
void karma
Hey there, I'm kinda new to the game (Only did my first Elite Deep Dive today) and I was wondering if anyone has any tips/tricks/ builds I can do with the sludge pump, I love the weapon's design a lot but the gameplay just isn't clicking with me.
old basin
Hey there, I'm kinda new to the game (Only did my first Elite Deep Dive today) a...
there's no real trick to sludge pump gameplay besides spamming charged shots
your general gameplan is to just spread gunk as much as you can & fire normal shots at bulkier enemies
and even then it (imo) does a worse job at this than the flamethrower, since you can just build for sticky flames on that + sticky flames aren't bound to the floor
build-wise, i'd suggest browsing builds on karl.gg, although basically any build on the weapon is viable
and tip-wise, the only thing you really need to do to use it effectively is to aim a little forward of a crowd's center to trying & maximise the amount of enemies stuck in the puddles
void karma
Thank you for the tips
acoustic peak
since update 35, dreads have a very small chance to spawn during a mission, i've...
that's been possible since at least U34, saw one a few months ago in a Haz 3 somehow
sour totem
Does scanning the mini mule for its legs activate a swarm?
valid phoenix
nah
old widget
Does scanning the mini mule for its legs activate a swarm?
Scanning doesn’t trigger it, but proximity to the mini mule does.
Also, one of the four legs is “booby trapped” per mini mule and will trigger its own wave when you dig it up. Which is why if you have 3 mini mules to salvage you can end up with 6 back to back waves if you rush mules.
See this excellent research from the wiki channel:
sour totem
@old widget TY!
quasi crane
If I abort out of a Deep Dive, will my progress be saved?
supple jewel
since update 35, dreads have a very small chance to spawn during a mission, i've...
2 spawned on me on this weeks EDD
tight prawn
i've seen 3 total dreadnought spawns, two of which were in the last week
random rampart
since update 35, dreads have a very small chance to spawn during a mission, i've...
That's false.
I started deep rock-ing since u32, and iirc in my 2nd mission I had to fight a random dreadnought with a friend of mine lmao
So random dreads exist since at least prior to u35 and u34
tight prawn
yeah random dreads existed for a while, they're just more common now it seems like
obtuse pasture
probably proximity/recency bias there..
if you happen to get 2 in 20 missions you are probably an outlier.. anecdotally.
Conversely there are players that will argue that dread spawns as wave replacements don't happen because they haven't experienced them..
assuming a minimum of 2 "announced waves"/mission at something like 1% chance of it happening.. that is still 50 missions per dread event (mean average) .. assuming the mission types you are playing don't have passive waves only .. like elims or constraints on what can spawn..
wet pond
That's false.
I started deep rock-ing since u32, and iirc in my 2nd mission I h...
wow. i'm very surprised i have never seen one before u35 - sry for the misinformation
wanton vessel
I think I encountered 1 after U35 of all my 200 hours of playtime (split roughly 50/50 with U34 and U35 I think)
pretty sure it's just very rare that it would take a lot of sample size to accurately estimate the chance of it happening
wet pond
i took a break for a while, and came back at u33 and probably played for about 300hr since then, only seen 2, both after u35
wanton vessel
is the surprise dred event even possible in DD/EDD?
wet pond
well several people said they got it this week
wanton vessel
that would be nightmare for speedrunners
imagine clocking a good run and the game proceed to spawn it
finite carbon
for a beginner with zero prestige so no access to Forge, what secondary is best? the shotty or smgs
obtuse pasture
shotty on scout that is
finite carbon
smg just not worth it or does it get better?
obtuse pasture
smg just not worth it or does it get better?
has an amazing OC.. embedded detonators
otherwise generally not so great
humble sparrow
Zhukov NUK17 OCs can change a lot about the weapon, and it takes more effort to wipe out hordes of enemies with the SMGs.
Super Blowthrough Rounds on the Boomstick lets you hit aprox 4 enemies max with each pellet.
finite carbon
guessing OCs are the Forge stuffs? I wish I knew how to level effectively xD I wanna toy around with endgame stuff
humble sparrow
Generally just play, and learn how to search through caves faster.
Bosco (solo run friend bot) can do a surprising number of things too.
finite carbon
isnt it the faster you run the less xp though?
cause ur not mining or doing the secondary objective
humble sparrow
Yea, I mean learning how to sweep areas more effectively, and things like spotting minerals/stuff in the darkness at times.
finite carbon
ah well gonna try some more runs rn, smg is my next unlock on scouty
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charred radish
im assuming the EDD is easy from that pin, anyone who played got some tips?
opal burrow
2nd stage is the hardest
icy terrace
im assuming the EDD is easy from that pin, anyone who played got some tips?
you can easily finish 2nd mission without having to go near the BET-C, I HIGHLY recommend not activating it, if you get a bad swarm roll like mactera or some such it can and will murk the whole team
opal burrow
Yeah just avoid the BET-C
icy terrace
so far... 6 of the 8 teams i have tried the dive with fail to realize it... it hurts my soul
opal burrow
3rd stage is really simple, just abuse the hell out of Critical Weakness
We had like 400 nitra left over so we just started blasting
charred radish
so far... 6 of the 8 teams i have tried the dive with fail to realize it... it h...
is just that betc is a love, how can we leave it behind
jolly hazel
it gets left behind anyways
charred radish
shhh
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Yeah, avoid BETC, remember crit weakness
Also cavegen on stage 3 is a bit wonky
(But sandblasted, so everyone’s a driller)
warped wave
I havent played in a while... when about would I be ready to start doing regular or elite deep dives?
drifting parcel
holy shit edd1 is hard solo
obtuse pasture
holy shit edd1 is hard solo
it can be a bit RNGish.. depending what elites you get.. and what you are playing
drifting parcel
have tried with engi and gunner so far, p3/4 of ommoran turns into constantly trying to repair with no chance to deal with the swarm
jolly hazel
I havent played in a while... when about would I be ready to start doing regular...
regular as soon as u get them usually
obtuse pasture
Any tips for the last EDD?
set up shop somewhere get bosco to do most of the work.. start with the egg in pit
jolly hazel
dd max difficulty is hazard 4 and u won't really run into nitra issues
edd once u can handle a haz 5 mission and pull your weight
humble sparrow
Good lord that Heartstone room is awful as Engineer, ||extremely compact in the combat zone.||
humble sparrow
dd max difficulty is hazard 4 and u won't really run into nitra issues
I'm pretty much loaded on Nitra after the first 2 stages, which is especially good for this week.
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dd max difficulty is hazard 4 and u won't really run into nitra issues
DD max difficulty is Haz 3.5 (3/3.5/3.5) which is significant (vs Haz 4) since bugs still move at Haz3 speed
jolly hazel
you cant
wraith shard
Did out kill the team, but I lost a lot of kills to DoT play
🤷♀️ you can care about wanking off to kills or you can care about winning and playing for the whole team
scout can get 1,000 kills if he just stands around pickaxing swarmers long enough? ⛏️
fresh sedge
You sound pretty new.
jolly hazel
DD max difficulty is Haz 3.5 (3/3.5/3.5) which is significant (vs Haz 4) since b...
I didnt realize 3.5 didn't affect speed, thanks lol
next galleon
@wraith shard did you manage to finish the EDD? we played together yesterday and failed twice, but I tried again today with some friends and we managed in. It was hell though. Whoever said it was easy, bless your soul 
wraith shard
<@456226577798135808> did you manage to finish the EDD? we played together yeste...
It was easy tbf, super fun compared to last week's fricking low o2 nightmare
next galleon
ah ok, i didnt play last week's, I heard it was hell so it really would make this one look much easier. we kept getting blasted on stage 1 with the elites and didnt get any time to breath on stage 3, thats why i thought it was hard
brisk pine
i did this week's EDD with randoms, just a few minutes below the hour mark
stage 1 and 2 were a breeze
stage 3 gave us quite some trouble
lilac glade
i did this week's EDD with randoms, just a few minutes below the hour mark
This the one on sandblasted ?
brisk pine
yeah
lilac glade
That first drilldozer gave me trouble
lilac glade
Niicceee ya love to see it
sullen nest
well that's the last time I bring the LOK to an EDD
I mean, it worked, but man
that was way more painful than the other two primaries
wraith shard
I start the deep dive, six minutes in and a friend wants to join, I have to leave the mission because I can't invite. Why?
I can understand stage 2 and 3, but at the beginning of stage 1 before I've completed any objectives I should be able to invite somebody
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I can understand stage 2 and 3, but at the beginning of stage 1 before I've comp...
That’s just how it’s coded, and it does make it challenging sometimes.
brisk pagoda
deep dive you have to do together from the start, the only way to join it during is if you lose connection and rejoin
queen patrol
i just got the deep for speed achievement with 12 seconds to spare AAAAAA
frail patrol
wtf is up with EDD stage 2 and all the swarms? Its honestly ridiculous how much shit spawns
mellow cove
Don't remember having any issues with it
reef shoal
wtf is up with EDD stage 2 and all the swarms? Its honestly ridiculous how much ...
thats just haz5
honestly stage 3 was worse cuz we got detonators as well
mellow cove
I don't think I got any dets
valid phoenix
there was one on stage 3
reef shoal
we got one on stage 2 as well
wanton vessel
there's quite a lot more bulk spawned recently
charred radish
It's a bulkvation, hide your beers
placid turret
just lost EDD because my entire team fell down a hole dug by an oppressor and got stuck lol
didnt even know they could dig
odd comet
You didn't have drills or platforms or ziplines?
sullen nest
you didn't know they could dig?
main lantern
My team died in that hole on stage 3 elite
And there are no quick hooks out of there so I died too
On a stage 3
With weakspot bugs
atomic prawn
Tried out the sludge gun for edd. I like cryo more still 😂
bronze berry
Stage 2 betc isnt real. Dont do it. It doesnt exist. Please stop doing it
valid phoenix
haha embedded dets go brrrr
clear folio
just did the last deep dive to be kicked at the end for no reason, is there a way to report this ?
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just did the last deep dive to be kicked at the end for no reason, is there a wa...
There is no reporting mechanism for such behavior. It happens sometimes sadly.
clear folio
damn
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The discord community here in #lfg-steam is generally pretty solid if you want some insurance against such behavior. Or you could host
clear folio
yeah, i will do that next time
stoic ocean
that kinda behavior seems just common enough that i dont think i'll do random deep dives basically ever. I've only experienced a couple random-feeling kicks but nothing right at the end of a mission thankfully
spare flume
Finished an EDD, went down like 12 times in the last part
Guess that's what I get for being a goblin.
oblique skiff
is there a question channel?
spare flume
is there a question channel?
#drg-chat might be the best place for it
snow vale
That is maddening, hadn't happened to me but I always host and fortunately not had to kick anyone either
sharp jacinth
So I’ve never done a deep dive before. What do I need to know before going in?
leaden cypress
So I’ve never done a deep dive before. What do I need to know before going in?
For regular deep dives : if you're fine with haz 3 and even hazard 4, you should not have any pb
For elite deep dives : try to get used to haz 5 as this is way harder than regular deep dives in general
Someone already asked the same thing a while ago, so here is my answer to him https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/208606706580586498/914598007150895114/unknown.png
ofc that's a personal opinion, if you feel at ease by taking your time, go for it
humble sparrow
Nitra carries over between sections, and whatever minerals you're carrying into the pod in stage 1 and 2 (remember to deposit after getting back out).
blazing marten
For regular deep dives : if you're fine with haz 3 and even hazard 4, you should...
This is good advise from a general viewpoint but it does depend on what the weekly modifiers/missions are.
This week I did the EDD with absolutely zero trouble.
It took me 3 goes to get past stage 2 of the normal DD.
(this was with others, fuck playing either solo but if you enjoy that go nuts)
leaden cypress
yeah
i preferred to give general advices as specific advices would be way too long to enumerate 
blazing marten
i preferred to give general advices as specific advices would be way too long to...
Yeah fair point. 👌
Basically what I'd say is good "foundation" for Deep Dives:
If you can run Haz 4s with no issues, you can likely do both normal DD and EDD. Now that doesn't mean HOW well you'll get on, but can you do them? Yes.
leaden cypress
Well i've seen people used to play on haz 3 clear an EDD
mostly because it was a very easy one + cryo cannon
humble sparrow
Cryo Cannon pretty much takes care of ground enemies
leaden cypress
whereas others were so hard (& so rare ) that even being used to haz 5 wouldn't guarantee an easy run
well flying enemies too with snowball
humble sparrow
Last week's EDD Low O2 PE+(Dread) looked like a horror story combo.
PE Spawns so you'd get swarms during the Dread battle.
leaden cypress
I recall one on hollow bough
It had so few nitra that you had to be extremely careful with how you had to use your supplies
i don't remember the first stage, aside that it had literally less than 160 nitra
stage 2 was a gigantic room with 6 eggs to collect + a hiveguard egg behind 4 spitballers
along with a menace & a breeder roaming around (4 players)
Most of the nitra was on the ceiling so you had to make bridges with platforms
Last stage was 2 dreads, with one of them (twins) being right behind the drop pod
Anyway that was a mess & i'd love to see that again
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stage 2 was a gigantic room with 6 eggs to collect + a hiveguard egg behind 4 sp...
“Shattered Armpit” IIRC.
shudders
EDIT: nvm, that was the haunted / egg / dread stage 2 in Hollow Bough
leaden cypress
gleaming gust
These deep dives haven't been bad
Did quite enjoy them and managed to complete stage 1 and 2 of the elite deep dive
tepid shell
Can industrial sabotage be a deep dive mission?
tepid shell
Ty
iron sail
this edd was the first one i have done first try
then the second try
was not so good
sullen nest
one
me
severe tusk
Duos are arguably the easiest way to do EDDs as you always have plenty of nitra and 2 classes should be able to fill in each other's weaknesses. Engi and Scout duos in particular are really strong.
severe tusk
Assuming everyone can carry their own weight, of course.
I personally enjoy 4 man groups, but occasionally an EDD will be tough and will also be nitra tight, so unless all 4 players are good and the group is doing things quickly then it can be hard to win. So sometimes I drop down to a 3 man group or do a duo run in those situations.
fallow niche
i've had fun doing EDDs as a gunner/driller duo
traversal can take a little work but there's certainly no lack of damage being pumped out
glass tulip
ashen patrol
yes
leaden cypress
Actually all the actives perk will reset at each new stage
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charred radish
Thanks mission control, I'm off tomorrow, so I'll work on it
charred radish
I've heard they aren't as intense
jolly hazel
less
frosty vapor
atomic prawn
this week's is way less intense compared to the previous 2
elite threat isn't too hard to handle since it's just stage 1
regen bugs ain't too bad because of crit weakness either (unless you're driller then sad life stage 3)
prisma dune
any less or more insane than the last two
My casual ass managed to get through them in a public group so id say less insane
half jetty
I planning on doing my first deep dive soon 👶 any tips?
charred radish
Nitra, ammo and health carries over stages
So keep that in mind, dont go wasting everything at the end
Stuff like iron will, field medic and such, however, does reset per stage so use that knowledge as well
Other than that common game knowledge
Be quick. Do your missions get out. There's no extra minerals to side track you
Only gold, and I recommend ignoring it unless you're confident
Completing it is more important, and you get a lot of gold anyway
jovial plover
Does gunner shield protects the drilldozer from the falling boulders (2nd part of omoran drilling)? Having hard time soloing with gunner due to that (having to fix and defend the drilldozer) - in the edd 1st stage
solar nova
Theoretically it shld, but iirc u can’t drop shields on top the dozer, it’ll fall through
And the Boulder impact has a large AoE, so you’ll need a decently big shield as well
jovial plover
And the Boulder impact has a large AoE, so you’ll need a decently big shield as ...
hmm i think this would be be problem tho, due to its large aoe (even tho i took the area upgrade for the gunner shield)
I believe my shield has about 4m radius but the boulder still damage the doretta
dark raven
i think you'd need upgrades to cover dozer completely and i'm not so sure that's even possbile, it's quite large thing
solar nova
Indeed
If u want to prevent the boulders from hitting without shooting them your best shot is engineer platforming
Tricky to get the right distance though
Too close and the dozer gets hit even without direct contact
or u could always have your driller be the drill that pierces the heavens
pseudo spade
Just finished my first EDD as a solo gunner. That was a trip.
jovial plover
aight noted thanks guys
i ll enlist help from my engies friends then if necessary hahaha
tough musk
I'm close to promoting one class. Will I be able to access EDD or DD with any class after that?