#deep-dive-discussion
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i beat first and eventually second mission
failed on third mission
not interested in trying edd again
since i already got the weapon overclocks
But sandblasted :(
fUCK TRAWLERS
Bring heightened senses if they rly give you serious trouble
medic gives better overall utility in EDD
and dash
but yes if i had a third or so
holy fuck, I did it
deep dive
melee only
well, tbh, mostly melee only, cuz fuck second stage
I did beat first dread without using guns
but when it spawned another one right when I activated the black box
fuck that
I used guns for the duration of the black box, then went back to full melee
and also used a gun twice on the 3rd stage, to kill the ceiling leech shithead and 1 mactera grabber
the fight for the black box was absolute fucking shitshow
glyphid blood in me beard, this whole thing was pure insanity
should also record it so we can see you fight in Karl's honour
Nice!!!!!
idk why the other people are acting kinda weird about it
this is hella impressive
even if it wasn't full melee only
what is the timer for weekly reset?
on Thursday, 1-2PM CET
Elite deep dive without killing any wild life? Anyone? 
So what's the consensus on Beastmaster
It seems awfully useful for having another thing bugs will munch on
And chip damage is damage so
pretty good both solo and higher hazards
Cuz I keep getting my ass whooped on EDD 3
hit or miss, steeve can be an annoyance and a boon, I feel like he shines more on solo/duo because there aren't nearly as many bugs so their presence is more noticeable
the last stage of edd i just used gunner with zipline abuse
Right now I don't really see much reason to run anything that isn't Thorns/Vamp with Iron Will and Medic, but I wonder if Beastmaster could fit somewhere
bosco alerted me to the flying whale so quickly dealt with that
other times I try to revive somebody and put bullets in my mate trying to revive him because steeve's butt was in the way
if enemies swarmed zipped away and shot them with autocannon
and slide back down to continue on the mules
had bosco grab the eggs in the meantime
i mean, if you are solo for sure, no reason to use medic
additionally, if you are in a team, they can run medic instead of you
4 man medic not really needed if all 4 of you are reviving anything, it is only really beneficial if you are reviving alone
and while still good, i personally think not needed with full party
esp if you have 1 scout
scout does it his own stuff
I've been thinking that I'll change out Medic for BM
while the defending party can have 1 or 2 people medic
and 3rd person can run something else
Hm
Guess we just need to work on teamcomp a little more
As of late it's been mostly Iron Will/Medic on everyone
yea on the last stage, i feel you honestly need your team to get down to the mule and eggs asap
there will be 2 eggs you can only get near the droppod
but you need that jellyfish breeder dead like yesterday
from there i would suggest repair the mules first
then pop the eggs
if you have a zipline to go from the spawn room down
cause there is a giant hole
that would be helpful for kitting
can just shoot while on the zip
only have to be mindful for ranged attacks
Wonder if it's worth running the "take more damage before falling off" zip line
Instead of speed
Something tells me it doesn't make a difference but I haven't tested it on high haz
yeah
additionally as a tactic
i put a second zip underneath
incase i miss
esp during dread fights
you dont fall too fast to not be able to grab the 2nd zip
the speed will only matter when going up
since you can rush down
so you can try the fall damage one
- engie platforms fi you are worried
since it is the last stage, i would also recommend setting up your resupply drops
Is there a good bit of Nitra in the EDD or is it tight
even without the perk, setting down a gunner shield will usually last long enough for free heal and ammo
fairly good amount, shouldnt run into trouble
oh sorry LMAO
ive been mxing up the stages
been giving advice on stage two
but honestly, stage 1 and stage 2 can be done rather quickly
even if ther eis barely any nitra, you should be fine
same tactic with the dread i did on last stage
the ziplines
it is a fairly compact room in stage 1
Well that's good
there is like 7 aqaurqs near the blackbox
and the last 3 are near the bottom
where the droppod will extract you
yeeaaa just gotta rng the sandstorm
i would say on the first stage
have 3 people do the blackbox immediatly
have someone like the scout just dig and chuck the stones down
stage 2 i already gave some advice
stage 3 it really just comes down on how you all fight
hive guard and normal dread i normally split the team
and we go opposite sides of the room
that way when it aggros
it has a long walk back and forth
giving time to gun the bum
the blackbox on stage 3 is beside one of the dread eggs
you can either complete it during your fight with the dread
so that no enemies spawn
at least i assume that is how it works
or you can complete it before/after
the normal mechanic is that while fighting a dread
no swarms spawn
not sure how blackbox + dread fight works
since that is a deep dive exclusive combo
both black boxes i cheesed again with zipline gunner
you run the zipline in the air through the radius
spam button while shooting so you stay in the middle
and dont zipline out
no land enemies can hit you
esp since you arent close enough to the wall
my kingdom for holding E to stay still on a line
But yeah sounds like a strat I've used a lot
Looks like I'm going back to Gunner for the EDD
this is only my 2nd rotation of deep dive
but i hear a lot of people say it is very easy
compared to other rotations
rather chill this week
🤷♂️
if you go two gunners btw
and mod for long duration
i think i normally have 7.5s duration. 9.5s charge?
that is only 2 seconds down time
yo ucan stack your shields on each other
while the other recharges
if you need a gtfo
while standing on blackbox
it can also be used while hiveguard is aggro'd on the gunner
and everyone dumps on him
ive also noticed hiveguard just keeps spamming his explosions if you stand ontop of him
so could also just throw down a shield nad team pumps into him while he spams the attack
Does the shield block the AoE?
i dont believe so
however the shield recharge on the shield make your shield constantly refill
if the projectile spawns inside the shield, it wont block
but believe if it spawns outside, then the explosion gets blocked when it hits the shield
Good to know
i do know that other aoes that ground based are not blocked though
so like oppressor ground shake
Cuz I remember Lacerator OHKOing me through my shield with its ground pound
it will still hit you
yeah
but your shield is constantly regening while inside
yea pretty sure that ground slam is similar
cant do anything about that
buuuut
can once again zipline abuse
thankfully twins are only bullet sponges
no invun phase
the only thing that will knock you down is if you get hit by the fire ball ball
not that bomb projectiles that throw
just dont get too close to the roof
the one guy glitches out and spawns on the roof
an the walks on your zipline
yea, if you are zipline is too close to a surface
they will do the ground jump thing
where they dig and then appear under you
ive had it where it did that move on the roof
then walked on the zipline
and did that 3 hit move
that ends rock shards in a line
in mid air
molly bugs out sometimes as well
seen her walk on my zipline
but agian, even if you get hit by the fireball
if you have full shield
it doesnt hurt too much
just make a safety zip
Why are Blackboxes still bugged to go slow when doing deep dives with less than max players
are they? thought it was just a visual glitch with showing like you have less power
question, do you lose the mission if you fail the black box secondary mission on 2nd stage?
Supposedly no, haven’t verified myself but trust the advice here
if I go for Neurotoxin AC on the EDD, should I take damage or ammo on 1 for the dread fights?
Ammo, since you will be using your secondary on dreads 90% of the time
And that other 10% is just to proc neurotoxin
kk
yup
just tested it now, you do not fail the mission, but you are still required to complete the black box
it will reset the blackbox, making you redo the objective
including building it again
EDD stage 2 wtf
tfw all three teammates are down inside shield, engi iron wills, does not attempt reviving anybody
oof
we didnt even make it out of the drop site lol
tfw us two gunners are talking out who to switch to driller and host kicks us both
also neurotoxin is fucking amazing on the AC
Yuuuup
good to know I guess, I was out of nitra anyway, so no more resupply artillery to kill the detonator
there is a way to power attack it by flying past it with a double boost from the special powder, but you need some insane practice for that
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Deep Dives
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Hey, is it normal finding 1 jadiz in a Deep Dive? I was wondering haha... I thought Deep Dive didn't have any mineral.
There was no hoarder in the mission we were doing.
I specifically found only 1 jadiz...
Like out of nowhere haha.
Or maybe we had one, but we didn't kill it then. Is it still dropping something when hit?
It drops a little bit as it takes damage
A lot more when you kill it
So yes, someone in your mission probably spooked it and didn't say anything
edd stage 2 will get you
our scout went down there with cryo grenades and got the breeders and hives
Stage two was a little hard, but nothing too bad. Snowball op
Stage 2 was pretty difficult as there were two breeders at one point
My team didn’t go down to the lower chasm immediately, so we unfortunately had to deal with swarms and swarms of Naedocyte spawns
Uplink and Blackbox are different things
this weeks EDD is super scuffed
I cant find a single team to finish even the first stage with
Here's a proof of doing DD with (mostly) melee only.
https://youtu.be/Et16gdEPgW8
Stage 3 is a separate video. (Just cut in 2 parts, not separate runs)
Stage 3: https://youtu.be/LLLwgFWX79k
Used a gun for the duration of the black box event, cuz there would be no other way to do it.
funny enough, doing this completely removed my fear of detonators
But made my fear of leeches on the ceiling 4 times bigger.
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ATTENTION MINERS!
New
Deep Dives
will be available in one hour!
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commences the no-shield-disruption-please dance
*commences no-shield-disruption-and-no-escort-duty ritual*
plz gib dreadnought secondaries 
commences the I-drank-too-much-blackout-stout-and-now-I-woke-up-in-the-drop-pod-whit-random-people-about-to-launch-to-an-EDD-whit-no-memory situation
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ATTENTION MINERS!
New
Deep Dives
are now available!
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DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Foul End
Stage 1:
4 Eggs +
Dreadnought Twins |
Rich Atmosphere
Elite Threat
Stage 2: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite +
150 Morkite |
Parasites
Stage 3:
225 Morkite +
2 M.U.L.E.s |
No Mutators!
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Bitter Cell
Stage 1: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box |
Critical Weakness
Swarmageddon
Stage 2:
Escort the Drilldozer +
150 Morkite |
No Mutators!
Stage 3:
200 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box |
Cave Leech Cluster
"pogidors"
best biome my dude
kinda 🤮 to see swarmageddon but at least it's the first stage so should be managable
At least 3 dwarves got downed. Twice. At the same time.
Actually that's a lie, I think one of those times was all 4
monkaS
Don't worry, it was only during the Black Box
i mean
critical weakness on swarmageddon doesn't mean a whole lot lol
now if it was on the drilldozer mission on the other hand...
swarmageddon also does nothing if you have a flamer, cryo, autocannon
either one of those will nullify the entire modifier
but if you don't have aoe 
ye we engi and scout gaming lol
manage turrets well should be OK 😄
true
thing is
i mean black box should be totally doable but depending on how large the cave is in liquid morkite, you're basically everywhere whilst getting spawned swarmers in ur face
it eats ammo, that's what it does.
huh the Deep Dives didn't get renewed yet?
restart game
I had started it after they were supposed to have been renewed
Ugh, just did EDD with a completely silent team, totally ruined the experience. Honestly you shouldn't be playing EDD if you're not gonna communicate with your team at all 🤷♀️
just did both with a feeling of deja vu the whole time, and then found out I had no matrix cores at the end
oof
Make sure your internal computer clock in on the right time
then restart the game
if by silent you mean they didn't ping anything at all, then I agree, but if you mean by that they didn't talk in chat then I can't agree, as I think DRG has the best way to communicate whitout outright saying how to do stuff.
They wouldn't acknowledge anything I said in VC at all, and didn't talk in chat. Honestly felt like playing with a team of NPCs with how dull it was. Didn't even get post-dive celebration because host left the instant we finished.
Gameplay-wise we didn't really need to communicate because it was ||extremely easy by EDD standards|| but the silence made it super boring, felt like my team was just playing to get it over and done with
While the disappointment in that is understandable, I honestly do sometimes just immediately leave after something myself due to time constrains, but I still wanted to enjoy DRG.
On the bright side it's not a common occurance
I do definitely feel like this has become a major problem in general for the game though: I used to get annoyed about players at haz 4 and above that don't use VC, now I feel lucky when a player actually communicates at all besides "r" and highlighting. VC has become like, 10x less common, at least in AU/NZ
idk, I kinda like being able to communicate whit just the Pointer and Salutes. Since the pointer highlights are voiced n stuff
the most fun ones for me are when everyone just rock n stones every opportunity they get between pings and bug swarms
For this week’s EDD, on gunner should I bring minigun or autocannon?
Definitely autocannon
Napalm as well
Seriously, I've never had a mission where napalm was so useful before, I was constantly running out because I was constantly having situations where it was exactly what I needed
I wish more multiplayer games had as good a pointing system
I played some Raft with the peeps I Rock and Stone with and it was a big adjustment having to verbally direct people again
It's not the same when you can't show a laser to something and yell at the top of your lungs "BISMOR HERE"
Any tips for a Scout? Swarmageddon sounds like hell and I don't feel like swapping M1K for GK2 just because the first mission has lots of swarmers in it.
boomstick
cyro nades
bring a boomstick
It has become a running gag in my group that I adore the bismor lines. I full on audibly gasp when we find some
Wouldn't dual pistols work better for swamers? Boomstick isn't particularly sustainable
cyro nades are much better than boom stick
i never really liked zukokovs for dealing swarmers
i didn't like zuks for anything tbh
i dont mind people not engaging convos much but when i ask simple yes or no questions like "u guys ready?" and i get nothing but silence, i just cant even
it's because you didn't rock n stone
nah, it's because you don't appreciate zhukovs
You wanna go?
I'll beat you in a drinking contest to prove a point
Yeah that's the level of silence I was getting, nothing even for asking if they're ready
fine, the lad that still stands after blackout stout wins
Kite the swarmers in front of your buddies with better CC/AoE
"kite" lol..shall we tell him about the secondary objective? 
for me its hard to go back to zuks versus boomstick with special powder. but thats just my preference
Ah, black box. No kiting necessary then, your buddies are already close
(Also, it’s not like scout has to stay in the bubble so kiting is perfectly reasonable)
nah dude
imagine taking more time than necessary to fill up the box
we only leave in emergencies
Teammates not killing 20 swarmers coming for the scout would be an emergency for the scout for sure
we simply ifg clutch gaming
Yeah IFG is super nice on BB
i can't love cryo grenades anymore. last time i used it i threw it 10m away and still got frozen
only 4 and only freeze the current clump of enemies, nothing to the enemies coming up right behind them
IFG is such a powerful area denial tool, it's really a mistery why people don't use it often
combine with a sticky flames driller and you got yourself a wall
when i was fresh i was like "yoo cryo nades op" but nowadays after all the ifg clutch gaming im like "ifg my new best fren again"
Is the EDD this week bad?
Being able to quickly eliminate large targets like breeders, spitballers and opressors with cryo does wonders for the team. Two breeders, unless eliminated quickly can down the entire team in the middle of the swarm attack.
I wanna try it out with my friends, did my first one last night so now that I know the basics of them (the general difficulty) I think we could do it
The last DD (or was it EDD) had two breeders in it. I took them down immediately with cryos.
Say, Burning Hell for Swarmers or Lead Storm for Dets?
I got splash damage with an Exploding Magic Bullets Revolver
that is correct, but IFG can reduce pressure of the swarm on the team, so the team can focus on dodging or killing breeders
i simply spammed my m1k and embedded dets at them. ammo was no issue anyway so ez life
@wraith shard how many people were you with?
Man, three easy EDDs in a row.
full squad
Makes sense lol
been gone from the game for a while and only recently did an EDD and this one was pretty tough for me
probably because a bulk spawned on the stage 3 black box and screwed up our holding spot
plus our driller left partway through stage 2
was fun tho
hey! a question from a wannabe greenbeard. I dont have much money, and i dont like buying things too often. however, i think this could be a lot of fun. Also however is that my brother can play on the xbox, and I could play on pc. But, that means I would have to get the MS store version which seems to have a smaller playerbase and no mods, which i typically enjoy. If i were to buy one, (should i or should i wait for a sale) and steam or MS store?
@pastel carbon think about it this way:
Mods or spending time with your bro
Actually from what I've heard, there are some very small mods for MS, they are just very unsupported lol
Though you didn't hear this from me
Hey, what are the deepdives this week?
check pins =)
EDD is pretty easy. 3rd stage 4p betc in last room. easy to avoid if you just hug the left wall
I died so many times to those, but after I patched the hole with my engineer, the driller made a hole downstairs and we nuked all those breeders and destroyed stage 2, before someone would jump down and die and then someone else follows/revives him and also dies, had that happen 2/3x times....
The hole there provided me with at least one laugh, so I can't complain https://youtu.be/7j6JOx7OVpg?t=1268
https://karl.gg/preview/2953
0:00 Intro
1:16 Stage 1
7:54 Black box 1
17:03 Stage 2
22:44 Leech down
34:02 Stage 3
36:38 Hiveguard
44:46 Twins
47:26 Black box 2
You know I played this week’s EDD one too many times when all my brain hears is “Detonator roars”
the last stage of the EDD had a betc in it, is that a guaranteed spawn?
edd this week seems easy as pie
It was i two manned it but had to iron will to the pod on stage 3 cause all the grabbers
What classes did your two man team take for the EDD?
Just my luck, apparently the EDD has been relatively easy 3 times in a row now, and the day before the first one went away cpu fan stopped working, and the model isn't made anymore, so I needed to buy a whole new computer, and in the meantime I can only play on this laptop which can run the game, but spazzes out when I try to play with anyone
we had all the morkite before even entering that room (dark morkite) and one teammate decided to trigger it for kicks anyway. nearly downed as a swarm came while we were still fighting bet-c but we made it through 🙂
it depends on number of players- any game with the same number of players as yours will have bet-c. my 4p attempt did
yeah i had a 4 player team as well
first experience with a toxic player on an EDD: our engi tried to sabotage us, called down 5 resupplies, using up all our nitra at the end of the second round, then quit. we squeaked through round 3 but just barely. luckily rest of the team was really solid.
I wish bulk spawns were seeded because I feel like nobody’s going to believe I got six this EDD lol
Most were easy enough to deal with but the one that spawned during the heartstone drilling almost wiped us 
two a mission is believable
I did a regular old HAZ 3 escort mission the other day and got 4 bulk detonators, including one that was elite.
yeah I saw 4 in an escort once
sometimes the game just decides it's time for the funny exploders
That mission was nuts for a HAZ 3, it threw quite a few elite menaces at us too and a bunch of mactera trijaw elites.
Well the EDD was very doable. Challenging, but had a disciplined team with good tactics and we did it on the first run. Lots of AOE and flame weapons recommended. Lots of bulks dropped in to play but no big deal. Working fast through the liquid morkite mission in stage 2 helps alot. don't waste time with gold, there is plenty of nitra to harvest, so you don't have to be sparing with it. Very enjoyable.
did the dd twice and edd twice
Too bad you couldn't I.D. the toxic jackass. I've had some guys pull that shit, a driller who dropped a charge on us right at the drop pod, a scout who rifle sniped us and then played dumb about it. Problem with these guys, they enjoy the negative reaction of other players. Childish, sure, but when you're dealing with low IQ idiots like this, just nod and smile and move on.
The Bet c seems to be a standard spawn. We just drilled a tunnel around it and didn't bother triggering it, as we were hanging by a thread on ammo and health.
yeah my team did the same thing
you can very easily hit morkite quota without angering it
Exactly. Good tactics.
EDD really wasn’t bad at all this week
The generation was rather forgiving
As long as you can handle a few choice bulk dets, you’ll be all good
i just reran both for creds
its very easy money
bet-c is very very easy for a flame driller
she's down in 10 seconds or less
it's also very easy with 2 berzerks
black box position on stage 3 EDD is kinda bad. At the bottom of a big pit.
I might try to do 1 or 2 stages of EDD melee only today
how bad is the swarmagedon, I never had that modifier before
It's free real estate as driller. Otherwise going to be annoying as hell
Is that normal EDD level 2 changed after 3 retry yesturday?
2 EDD attempts spoiled by trolls. I swear this never happened until recently and now it's common.
would it be possible to do edd solo as engineer?
you can solo edd as any class if you are careful
there's not a situation in the game you can't solve with a resupply next to you and a nuke launcher
i dont have the nuke one though im using breach cutter and smg
i like the range on the smg
same thing but with breach cutter :)
tru its my favorite weapon so far
ill try solo edd with engie now I think thanks for giving me something to do
yw i guess
does anyone know what missions are out on the deep dives? thanks
went down on the last 10% of the last black box in EDD
5 oppressor coming down on me down in that hole were to much
(also special mention for the refuel room of the escort, where a leech, a grabber, a trawler, a army of grunt and a bulk attacked me)
also thinking about it
i got a bulk in each stage
lemme guess you didn't bring heightened senses cuz "lol imagine not looking up" 
who said i got grab a single time?
they just were a waste of time
and with a bulk on your ass and grunts eating Dotty
wasting time is not really something you can do
(i did get grab in stage 3 though)
sounded like it but cheers if u didnt lol
i m so used to look up whenever i enter a room with Dotty
i swear there's always a leech
those sharks or grabbers can still surprise getcha any time
they have issues pathing to you based on momentum sometimes I think
they'll earn their name and you are the catalyst
And we send unto them only you
Carpet bomber
Until it is done
praise thorns
Is there something wrong with the second stage of the EDD?
When I hosted, it crashed at the ommoran
When I joined someone else, it seems they crashed too (game froze, can't rejoin)
🤔 well you can make a report if you want
:/
Hey guys, can steam accounts play with xbox players?
no
no problem
The most annoying thing in the world: having the drop pod hit a dreadnought cocoon on the way down, so you have to fight without turrets set up or flares placed or anything
I…didn’t think that was possible. Like the initial drop pod? Pegged a cocoon on the way down?
If so I’d capture the seed, possible bug
as far as im away, in dd and edd you always spawn in the exact same starting area
the leaving drop pod can change though
so if it was dd/edd that broke a cocoon on the way down, and no one else reported, probably a bug
the leaving drop pod would only be able to come down once all the dreads are dead though
so that only leaves the initial drop
that also sounds very wrong to occur, since cocoons are usually in neighboring tunnels at closest
In Dense Biozone
The cactus thingies can pop a dread cocoon
I had a game where a dread spawned 5 seconds after we landed from that
ah that sounds more likely
and unfortunate
god imagine a seed with the shooter-cacti popping all the cocoons
woo, been at it with Shadow Warrior all week. forgot about the weekly reset 🤡
that Jimi Hendrix reference for the DD is well appreciated 
no mutators for the EDD dozer so that's fine
and H5's not too bad if the rest of the crew know what they're doing too.
both dives have refining 
In EDD have old bug, when drilldozer ui model don't show damage on client side.
But anyway we did this. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628295395759620106/842850666320887858/unknown.png
unfortunately the dd is not in dense biozone so no cactus
Do I miss out on resources or xp when i cant get to the drop pod in the first and second stage of a deep dive?
I still have to try my first deep dive mission
Do you change your normal gear for them?
Depends
anyone struggling on the deep dives this week?
Almost died soloing the first stage of the DD but that was mostly my fault for fighting the twins in a tight space. Haven't tried the EDD yet
edd is horror on the first stage without AOE
yeah flak gunner is a must
indeed indeed
it's horror mostly cuz of the black box
impossible to scout + engi?
challenge accepted lol
wonder if it's time to pull out the cryo minelets for this one instead of the detonators
engi can do anything
EDD is surprisingly easy this week. And I am saying this as a Scout.
engi + anyone is doable
as long as it has engi
I do not believe you if you did 1st stage solo as scout
It's refi + critical weakness. As a Scout you can easily kill anything with M1000 and stay on top of the refinery when the swarmers hit.
black box
Top of refinery = immunity in case you don't know that.
(Unless you get shot by a spitter or mactrera.)
Ah, sorry, didn't realise you were talking about solo.
You could take pheromones and hide in the cloud.
- resup near by
I thought you did it solo
it's just impossible to do solo as scout
but pheromone cloud is intersting
maybe I will try that
Yeah, the whole swarmageddon mod makes scout useless. Pretty unbalanced.
I was actually using praetorians to kill off swarmers
but praetorians are for some reason really dumb today
I run into them and they still don't start their spew animation
That sucks. The lack of balance is disturbing. I get that some classes get it more difficult here and there, but Scout is useless on some missions.
also pheromones like, are stupid
they sometimes work sometimes don't
what is the correct way to use pheromones?
I am not supposed to be inside the cloud, right?
but kind of nearby it
literally 4 bugs covered in pheromones 15 meters away from me, still try to attack me
pheremones will both slow and change aggro of bugs to attack the nearest thing to them
I am literally seeing particles around bugs that mean that they are under the effect, and they still on top of my ass
even when I am zooming around the cave
sometimes, a non painted bug will attack the painted ones
the particles mean nothing, do they have the pheromone effect
icon above their head
yes
then report it as a bug
would be the first of me hearing that painted bugs dont attack each other and instead follow you
man this is stupid
edd solo, no bosco
will need to change class then
how do you expect me to do black box
looking at edd i would personally go gunner
i always zipline in the air
only areial enemies plus spiiters can get you
which you can just kill
during blackbox
autocannon also aoe for the swarmageddon
or toss a molli
gunner is gonna be hard to do the rest of the mission
hardly
not using his gun that is
I tried driller, cuz pretty good with drills against swarmers
good luck with cave leeches cluster
but still black box is ass
it's fiiine
just gotta be extra careful
and no floor clipping leeches that is
it's okay, just as long as it's not swarmagedon
I can deal with big stuff + it gives me hp
swarmers bite harder than grunts, move faster than grunts, and give no hp
I don't see how that makes any freaking sense
mmm.... something you could try with driller
I did give myself some room and decided that I can use guns during black box
but still it's insane
maybe with cryo cannon
cuz I do have 2 resupply pods ready when I activate it
your issue is blackbox swarmageddon right?
just confirm, able to use grenades right?
driller, neurotoxin grenade
invert bunker it
giant trench with blackbox up on a pillar
throw down gas
can't they still climb up?
yes
they can, but that is why neurotoxin
also what to do with oppressor
but you get a clear shot
I love invert bunkers. I think they are so much better than regular bunkers
you can gas below
swarmers will have to climb up to you
crawling down into the trench
wait
don't see how that helps
I still need to outdps the entire swarm by myself
am I gonna be able to do that?
the entire point of blackbox is that you are stuck on the point, you cant leave esp solo
invert bunker not only increases the space they have to travel to get to you
it also puts them in a bowl
anything that climbs up, drill them
throw gas in the bowl below
since they will naturally clump up to climb up to you
oh, so, like, have the rock be hanging just by a small sliver of terrain
and just drill down?
blow up the area around it the black box
so that the blackbox is standing on a pillar
make a giant trench
enemies have to take all the time to walk down to the bottom
to the center
then climb up to you on the pillar
here
a better visual
okay, I will try that
your trench will look like this
essentially
since you are using no guns, but grenades, pickaxe and drills are allowed
will just have to hope to rng for the rest i imagine
other option would heavy and use zip lines to make it so bugs can't reach you (take the auto cannon with what ever over clock you like)
On a side note I have been disconnecting more often recently for some reason
think ill stick to my keep moving and dont die tactic
he is specifically doing no guns
told them the same thing, their worry is that going gunner would then make rest of edd harder
IDK why
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nice
Planning on doing my first deep dive, used to doing missions on haz 4. How bad can I expect it to be
it feels about the same for EDDs as haz 4 to me
normal deep dives are basically haz 3, just longer
they ramp up but you also get more into it so it mostly cancels out in my experience
not new objectives just a total of 6 of the ones you know
also the caves it generates are like no other so you have that to look forward to
And tons of nitra if you're smart with it
through I feel like this dd has less than normal (which is good)
deep dives specifically have lower nitra spawn rates but the caves are so gargantuan that you end up with more
Whats the difficulty scaling of the normal Deep Dive and the Elite?
it's like 3, 3.5, 4.5 and 4, 4.5, 5.5 or something like that
that being the hazard levels of each stage
they only go up .5 per mission
dd starting at haz 3
edd starting at 4.5 haz
Deep Dives are an End Game mechanic that was introduced in Update 25: Endgame - Part 1. Deep Dives are accessible to the player once they have promoted their first Dwarf, while Elite Deep Dives also require the completion of a Deep Dive (only once). The mechanic consists of two pre-seeded, difficulty locked variants: Deep Dives and Elite Deep Di...
3, 3.5, 3.5 and 4.5, 5, 5.5
Feedback to devs: just got this game, and having to throw so many flares...i wish we could have infinite lasting duration on the flares. i also get that it's part of the class, but i wish i could put spikes on my other classes flares to make them stick to walls.
sad scout noises
danger, darkness, dwarves
Any tips on how to solo the escort in edd? Focus, class/build, strategies?
Use a lot of supplies so you always have max ammo and grenades while dotty is moving. Same at the stone.. just overuse the tesupplies so you can spam everything. Also as long as dotty has two sides still alive she can tank the rocks just fine.
Driller with sticky flames makes it easy. Gunner and engie can handle it. Scout hard but possible
Watch YouTube videos of people doing solo edd with escort you can see what they do. But for me I just spam
since they added the weak spots for rocks, scout with GK2 AI shreds rocks pretty good
Btw lads is it normal that the only macteras i had in the entire EDD was grabber?
Wait wha? Weak spots for rocks?
yea
also, are you fucking rofling
detonator in the first minute of the drilldozer mission
shoulda restocked before the second stage
oof
also
one question
Scout in edd this week yay or nay
Big caverns, scout good
Yes for everything except the pumpjack behind a thick wall on stage 1
Glad I had an engi with me altho driller would've made it ez as well kek
I was like yooo that's some scuffed shit
Last stage isn't going to be fun for non scouts imo.
Interesting
it’s that giant ass cave with bridges everywhere isn’t it
cuz I’ve seen that one formation in every biome
If you're not going for speed and can deal with pickaxing 100m through a wall for a pipe on stage 1 then stage 3 is just scout heaven
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Yo Barry, did you also have endless purple spider and swarmers spawns in stage 3?
Stage 3 was like swarmageddon but without the modifier for me.
it varies on the spawn pool what you get, but stage 3 of elite deep dives always throw endless shitters at you tbh
no vampire perk or no red sugar near?
ye
Any advice for someone about to do their first deep dive?
not really much
they play similarly to normal missions
you have 2 primary objectives that you need to finish to move on
every stage, you carry over your minerals, your current ammo and hp
bosco revive + perks reset every stage
dd & edd are seeded runs, rather than random
ty ty!
deep dive is hazard 3 stage 1
ten haz 3.5 and 4 iirc
just horde all the nitra
if you are smart, you can finish stage 1 without calling a resupply
and potentially leaving it behind / wasting
if you are fairly comfortable with hazard 4 on your normal playing
deep dive will be rather easy
also here
to prepare what class, perks and weapons you want to bring ahead
I appreciate the advise! I'm on stage 2 now!
Win
Feedback to devs: hey i got maybe 10 hours in the game so i'm not 100% new but i'm somewhat accustomed to how the game works now...
and markers placed from scanners are way too easy to just not even notice, and their duration is also way too short.
this is the 2nd time you have done "feedback"
not really the correct channel for this
@steep gorge
First deep dive, stage 3 about halfway done, host dropped. Just did it a second time though and finished. Thanks for the help @odd sphinx!
rip on the host dropping
but congrats on your first deep dive
now go do edd
become the dwarf you were always meant to be
I may try that tonight. The intimidation factor is real, but I need overclocks really bad so I guess I need to just get it done, lol.
the great thing with deep dives and elites is that they are seed
so besides a few enemies afaik
everything is basically the same
the same objectives
that same location
the same map generation
doesnt hurt to simply boot it up
and give it a try
at worst, you fail
but now you have info
you now know where things will be
what enemies will spawn
etc
will allow you to plan better for the future
you also still have like 5 days
so no real rush
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@odd sphinxty
i'm wondering if that roller coaster achievement was even worth doing
took way too long lol
of course it was
you got a cheevo
only true dwarfs 100% drg
it is what karl would do
this is true
Questions for anyone that has done Deep Dives and has crashed.
1] When's the first time you noticed the crashes happenly often?
2] What stage(s) do you or other players have crashed at?
3] Do you or known if other players had any mods running at all during Deep Dives?
4] Was anybody able to reconnect back, and at what stage if you can remember?
Thank you.
This weeks elite is cake with neurotoxin payload. Did my first one this week and beat it first try.
I sure do love having a random dreadnought spawn during the edd
stage 3 of the DD, everything going well, then extreme lag
then I got disconnected :<
least I got the first two cores
Those are the important ones, blank and overclock
Cosmetics are nice but not necessary (however I want them really bad)
Do u guys think next edd is gonna be hard
who knows
haven't finished an elite deep dive in a while
I hope next EDD won't have detonators on some form of extraction mission
and no swarmagedons
actually, swarmagedon fine, as long as it's not on some form of extraction mission like salvage or drilldozer
I just want an Edd without dreads. This one had a “random” dread both times I dove that sucked up most of our ammo.
I’m sick of dreads.
dreads are ok
as long as it's not a hiveguard
just please no drilldozer or salvage
I beg u
Drilldozer and salvage the whole team doesn’t have to build for. They’re better than dreads, especially random dreads.
don't swarmers not damage the drilldozer
I just don't want salvage or drilldozer in general
also I think swarmers just don't target drilldozer
only players, that would be easiest to code
at least escort can no longer be three length on deep dives now
friendship ended with swarmers
praetorians is my new best friend
I want a steeve bulk.
steeve exploder
you can just run at the praetorian and all the swarmers that were chasing you instantly die
legitimately a 400% damage exploder would be powerful
Well I did it and it took me a lil over ninety mins
Congrats. Regular Deep Dives aren't usually too hard. I did my first one solo.
Yeah it was pretty fun
I wish more missions were like it
Are normally random encounters like BET-C and mineral hoarders part of the deep dive seed or are their chances rolled seperately?
i think its depended on how many players are in the deep dive
seeded and depending on numbers of players
I still need to finish this week's EDD. I tried it once and we were doing well, but then my team got distracted when they heard Bet-C on the last mission and we ended up wasting several minutes deciding whether or not to fight her. We finally decided to skip her and start the black box up. Like a second or two before the black box event started a swarm spawned, including a bulk detonator in that narrow area, and we lost.
what's up with the bulk in the black box?
is that a consistent spawn?
F
and i generally don't have problems handling those with my duo
but this area and the opressors
gosh
well, game crashed on stage 3 and i didnt get a reconnect prompt
so that game is probably dead
I might have been in that group, I wouldn't mind trying again but not sure when the best time for me is.
yeah, it should be one of the more doables but for some reason it seems to dump it all on at once.
Oh maybe you were. I was a Gunner. I placed my shield down when the bulk detonator was exploding but everyone went down except for me.
shields arent that effective against exploding detonator
EDDs still intimidate me. But maybe my expectations are wrong. What is your success rate? How many of your EDD attempts out of 10 are successful?
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I did 3 EDD to this day and completed them in 5 Attempts alltogether. (one needed 3. The others in one)
they are pretty doable if you got your stuff together and have a good team. If not -> Chaos. (Yes difficult, but doable)
the first two stages aren't difficult if you have people who can shoot and coordinate
and the first two stages are most important (they give a blank matrix core and a weapon overclock)
and once you got them all... only the third stage matters
for those sweet sweet beards
the 1st 2 stages are important because they let you complete 3rd stage easily
Who here does the EDD solo?
many people edd solo including me
in some ways it is easier solo
for example you can abuse resupplies to spam grenades
and there's nobody to run off alone and die, which causes a cascade of deaths as people go to rescue them
plus bosco never lets me down
Bosco never ever let's YOU down
... unless he fires a rocket at some object in the way instead of the enemy. ^^
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How is soloing EDD with drilldozer missions?
with patience, and lots of cocaine
shouldn't be too hard as engi
turrets do decent job at protecting doretta
is there some kind of bot that displays the current deep dives?
I swear I've seen one but I have no idea how to call it or wahetevr
this one I think
oh no it's just people doing this
so is the second elite deep dive having 2 bulk detonators guaranteed?
I tried this weeks EDD 3 times, I had 2 bulks in each mission with the last (6th) bulk always wiping us
we just run out of ammo and health
didn't have 2 bulks in the first mission
second mission there was 1 bulk at the refuel and 1 bulk at heartstone
yep, in the 3rd we keep getting 2 bulks come at us when we start the black box event
Which is a death sentence in that depression
3rd stage of EDD is bulk-a-licious
2nd stage of EDD is pain
I wonder if it is a timing thing I would say we had one per mission on 1 and 2 when we were keeping pace, I only recall seeing one bulk on 3 as well but had a wipe at that bulk once and a need to stop due to a party member suffering poor IRL health on the second attempt.
how is the easiest edd i've seen yet the one i've lost like 5 or 6x now... 🥴
because it punishes you hard for losing ground
hey i'm humble enough to admit i can't carry, but all the new greenbeards are making this incredibly difficult 😐
i had a guy call 5 resups in stage one
tried it once myself and both our gunners went lead storm
🤣
our best option for dealing with swarmers was plasma trail on the breach cutter so that went well
drilldozer died to two misplaced detonator final blows
smh
i cant get a gunner to pressure-relief shield EVER, its only ever reactionary to death
that's what happens when you have bad gunners
Edd is one of the easier ones this week imo
unfortunately when I tried it for a second time I had to go on stage 2, so I saved the team, killed the spitballers and left
dunno if they gave up from that
Hello in deep dives instructions it says "rewards can only be claimed once a week" does it count both deep dives ? normal and elites
Or can i get rewards again if i do the elite one
one set of rewards for the edd and one set for the dd per week.
what is the EDD today?
same as it was during the whole week. The reset is tomorrow
Damn, someone's Steve aggroed BET-C right at the end of the EDD and we died again with her only having a bit of life left. I'm 2/2 in failing this week's EDD right at the end.
The chances of good people are best in the first couple days. Team quality gets worse the longer you wait.
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I have completed EDDs with lesser skilled players that I failed with better players. Be sure to impart the knowledge of your past failures to your current team and plan around that knowledge. Skill isn't everything, knowledge is power.
or simply pray to rngesus to not screw you over lol
I just finished this week's EDD on my 3rd attempt after failing at the end of of the 3rd mission twice. We probably had 4-5 bulk detonators total and sand storms hit about 7 times, often during swarms. No one on the team was a pro, but we had each other's backs, had a plan, and were decisive in our actions. We pulled through just fine.
No voice communications either, just frantic typing at the start of missions and during them at key moments. It's a shame you can't type when the shuttle is landing or taking off.
noice lad 👍
Finished it today with some epic lads from LFG, nearly lost it kuz I got stuck on one of the pumpjacks on stage one
And the blackbox room on stage 3 is a scary place
Yeah it is. Building a cave helps a lot, but you don't really have a ton of time to do that between swarms. I think all 3 times I played that mission there was a bulk detonator during the black box hold out, which makes things difficult since you're kind of trapped in that one little area.
bulk for me spawned during the refining part, not the black box
sentries were great at dealing with swarmers though
I had a bulk at the end of refining, and 2 during dotty
You may need a better gaming chair
it was so simple
it's so simple: swarmageddon, assorted brood nexi, escort duty, two black boxes - how could scout fail alone?
like I can manage swarmageddon I can barely pull off a swaragedden black box but escort missions man like I dont have that kind of output
I didnt even make it to the beamers
dear god
its not that bad
my team of four made it to the beamers but only with one armor piece left after a bulk killed too close broke one armor piece and an incident involving a grabber and one player being downed in a previous chamber caused the other to break, and another bulk broke the final part during the fight
there was a magma core EDD with escort before u34 a bit ago
i speedran it and some other runners did as well
you can look at the videos and try to use it for reference of some sort
practice, and watch videos from the deep dive speedrun channel. most people speedrun as scout.
also, abuse the fact that you have all the nitra and resupplies you will need. Just spam cryo grenades if you have to
new here, when will the weekly deep dives reset? in a couple hours?
less than 3 hours
i'm stupid af, how does the deep dive timings work?
is it like 3 a week
each of the same theme?
i thought it was just about to refresh yesterday
or did i just completely misread the clock
oh wait no it's refreshing in two hours
i thought it would have already refreshed by the time i woke up xp
it refreshes weekly
it refreshes every week on Thursday at 1pm CET
yeah
i was just dumb
i thought it already refreshed
and was confused why it was refreshing in "two days"
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Any last minute deepdivers?
wait new deep dives today thought it was tomorrow?
Pls no magma core pls no magma core
i really wanna try an elite DD
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DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Ancient Drift
Stage 1:
4 Eggs +
Dreadnought Hiveguard |
Haunted Cave
Stage 2:
Protect the Drilldozer +
2 Eggs |
Parasites
Stage 3:
6 Eggs +
Dreadnought Classic |
No Mutators!
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Raw Land
Stage 1:
Protect the Drilldozer +
2 Eggs |
Lethal Enemies
Stage 2:
10 Aquarq +
150 Morkite |
Parasites
Stage 3:
6 Eggs +
2 M.U.L.E.s |
Mactera Plague
welp, lost the last attempt at last week's EDD in the last stage during the black box. For the 2nd time. That was our last shot. Sad.
Haunted cave 😢
Shallow Bogus
god fucking, why drilldozer
It's 1st stage so not too shabby if u lose it
Haven't seen haunted cave in deep dives for an eternity
true but crystalline caverns don't spawn big enough to kite him away sometimes
easy to do it but only with a good vc team
actual bullshit man
easy frist stages could do them drunk ingame and out
Goddamn it, 10 aquarks again 😔
Thank you :3
Np ^^
This EDD definitely needs a good team. The hordes and the mactera almost wiped us.
i see management wants many eggs yet again
Haunted dreadnought, that’ll be a thing
I would say send one person to kite Casper away for the duration of the fight, but the Hiveguard could spawn Sentinels on the other side of the map if you do.
Neuro still works on the ghost to at least slow it down
Man stage 1 and 2 of this week's normal deep dive just aren't fun for me, not 'hard' but just all the annoying things stacked on top of each other
Having this issue a lot with molly where they get stuck on the tracks the drilldozer has made, an extra challenge haha
oh boy edd stage one, lethal enemy escort mission, ran into a bet-c mid transit and got total party killed
You haven't seen the last stage yet. A Mactera plague on an Egg Hunt with two Mini mules. The modifier is just unnecessary. It just makes it too hard for my liking. Like there is already a metric sh*t ton of Macteras spawning throughout the EDD and the Mactera plague just makes thing even worse then they already are.
And since there are no positive mods, we barely had the chance to defeat them and get the mules done who spawn in swarms constantly
sounds like the engineer sentries will be quite helpful
and maybe a lot of weakpoint destroying weapons
Engis' sentries were helping but they can only do so much. Like once the 1st Mactera mini swarm came the next one was already on the roll

