deep-dive-discussion

[forest carbon]

Meow

Sting tails normally

Sting tails when bosco

Oh this is not gen my b Lmao

[valid bramble]

i think it would be awesome if we could add the Mission Control bot to personal servers lol

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[kindred coyote]

COOL

thank you mission control bot

[hardy coyote]

This elite deep dive is hell

[rigid badge]

yes

[hardy coyote]

The macyera are so annoying

[viscid patrol]

new deep dive tomorrow

[pallid plover]

help

i didnt do any of them yet i was busy with school

is anyone online?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/926873984291700786/934998086458171402/fvGbwdoGvU-1.gif

[pallid plover]

managed to compelte normal

anyone up for elite rn?

[royal pulsar]

why isn't

ps4-ps5

cross progress

[pallid plover]

wdym why isnt

[royal pulsar]

like

i played ps5

then

ps5 broke

so i got a ps4 edition

same console btw n account

but my ps5 data

is gone

well

it won't like to my ps4 edition

[exotic belfry]

#bug-discussion #playstation These chats may have better help for your issues

[thorny gull]

also get roles

[fleet prawn]

just beat my first elite deep dive, and it was under 45 minutes. the team was crazy good!

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[royal pulsar]

how

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules

[lost prism]

rock and stone

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[lost prism]

lets go

[subtle burrow]

[ashen star]

wher are new deep dives

[split anchor]

now to see what the deets of the deep dives are

[sinful pewter]

The dives are deep

[hexed agate]

Show me the deep dive

[split anchor]

hmm maybe I should go in blind

[eager flame]

Chill, i'm driving to work rn, timezones are a bitch, can't do it right now, i'll update it as soon as i can.
In the meantime, the other pinned message has the updated DDs already:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cvRHDfmBKK8Ggmoga6A3PrlyBaunZpbQhZuy987gGKk/edit

[hexed agate]

Alright

[ashen star]

M o r e s l a v e l a b o r

Thank you btw

[split anchor]

I could try

[broken maple]

Weekly Deep Dives information for 2023-09-21 to 2023-09-28.
Deep Dives will reset <t:1695898800:R>

DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Barbarous Perfection
Stage 1: Industrial Sabotage + Hiveguard | Volatile Guts
Stage 2: 250 Morkite + Black Box | Exploder Infestation
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Classic + Hiveguard) + 2 Mini-mules | Elite Threat

ELITE DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Duplicitous Point
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + Black Box | Volatile Guts
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + Black Box | Exploder Infestation
Stage 3: On-Site Refinery + Hiveguard | Cave Leech Cluster

(formatted using memtransmute's deep dive formatter)

[sudden mirage]

Anything crazy in the caves? i.e. betc/nemesis

[hardy coyote]

Yesterday during stage 3 edd my teammates all went down and I made a panic bunker and was doing well fighting the triple swarm cus they all pulled eggs, and then I got grabbed what could I have done to surevive

[green socket]

Not get grabbed

Easy

[ivory marten]

Black Box Exploder.

Bugger me...

[lilac elbow]

Huh.
Recently there was a lot of twins.
Now lots of Hiveguards

[compact bay]

HIVEGUARD of all things appearing three times
i fucking hate it here

[ivory marten]

I honestly don't mind the Hiveguard.

Thw Twins on the other hand are a pain in the dick.

[lilac elbow]

I wonder if crystaline caverns edd has lots of electrocrystals.
If so, I might opt into boltshark with retrievable bolts to eliminate those hazards from a distance.

[rancid cedar]

hiveguard is boring, easy as hell and long as fuck. Twins are at least a quick and hectic fight

[golden barn]

I hate the tediousness of hiveguard, the ads, the 3 sacs needing to be popped is annoying, and needs to be done 3 times

[rancid cedar]

it’s just not a very engaging fight

[golden barn]

the only time I enjoy getting hiveguard is if there is a bulk to pop it in one blast

[lilac elbow]

But at least Hiveguard is predictable. Always the same pattern of attacks.

[zenith ember]

doesnt seem bad

normal mission after clearing out the leeches for hiveguard

[lilac elbow]

Given experience with On-Site. I guess there will be around 2 leeches near refinery.

[golden barn]

I just wish hiveguard was a bit more active in its attacks and supported its minions instead of running off to another cave system, watching the slow bugger not hit anyone that is 10m away from it is just a snoozefest

[lilac elbow]

The main difficulty with EDD seems to me stage 3.
Timed swarms mean less breathing room. Unlike last week's egg hunt with only triggerable swarms.

Industrial Sabotage + Hiveguard on Haz 3
I kinda wanna fight them both at the same time.

[slate stump]

edd looks chill

[restive delta]

My deep dive is different from the announcement above, I got the Drilldozer + Morkite for the 1st stage of Normal Deep Dive. How is this happening?

[boreal breach]

you have no internet or you didnt restart the game since they rotated

[dense pebble]

Try taking field medic so you can insta-res a guy. And remind teammates not to multi-swarm.

[eager flame]

I'm dead

📌 Pins are updated now 📌

Also, why am i even doing this at this point, i literally leave for work 20 minutes before the Dives reset, and get at work about an hour after it updates

TwT

[karmic flame]

black box exploder infestation

[tacit iris]

Oh damn it I hate hiveguard

The other two are actually quite fun and can be hectic, but this little bastard is a slog

[karmic flame]

based name

i love the reworked battery booster so much

[tacit iris]

It’s the best OC in the game

[zenith ember]

yeah edd was a cakewalk

would be easier if i didnt have a engi throwing nukes at me

[topaz ledge]

Solution? Just use snow ball or sticky flame

[subtle apex]

I feel like Driller's secondary options aren't good enough for handling flyers to really make me comfy using sticky flame.

[shadow temple]

After multiple EDD failed attempts (in the past), this is my very first EDD I finally completed :D

[subtle apex]

I love the idea, but then macteria walk up and wreck me. Maybe if I saved axes for flyers?

[topaz ledge]

How was it?

[patent elk]

We've been getting easy EDDs for a few weeks now.

[shadow temple]

Was actually pretty smooth! 2nd stage's main room is a bit rough in that it has 2 spitballers and a naedocyte

[topaz ledge]

Free overclocks for all

[patent elk]

Makes me wonder if their just letting the hellishness build up for one really bad one soon lol

[shadow temple]

3rd stage got scary cuz for some reason everyone died but me and I'm like "Eyo what happened y'all?"

Just a lot of spitballers and leeches

Once all that is cleared, everything was smooth

There's uh

There's a troublesome well

Just like, opposite side of the cave at the very top, driller can probs take care of it but it's in a sucky location

[karmic flame]

fucking

hell

solo scout

[shadow temple]

oooof....

[karmic flame]

honestly fuck this

i already got the overclocks

i dont care

fuck on site refinery

fuck salvage

both are hell when playing solo

[subtle apex]

Dang, playing scout solo sounds like you don't love yourself enough.

[main sage]

salvage can be, refinery meh

play driller

[lost plover]

I'm glad the dreadnoughts aren't all twins again.

[shadow temple]

I heard scout solo escort duty is also pain but I really haven't bothered trying it out myself

[eager atlas]

but twins are fun!

[lost plover]

Not when you have to do it over and over.

[low barn]

meow

[eager atlas]

I mean I guess, but I rather repeat twins than repeat hiveguard

[lost plover]

Honestly prefer hiveguard, idk. But this regular dd was easy so didn't have to repeat it.

[crystal willow]

Hiveguard + sabotage

For part one

Jesus

[unborn obsidian]

whats the best time to fight the hiveguard for stage 1

[crystal willow]

Stage two isn’t horrible

And stage three is a monster

[patent elk]

Right after you lower the shield

[crystal willow]

The elite actually seems a bit easier then the normal dive

[patent elk]

It was like that last week to and prob would have if cave generation didn't screw us

[crystal willow]

Hiveuard and sabotage is gonna be tricky

Especially due to how sabotage missions are laid out

[runic relic]

Cant you pop it towards the end of caretaker for an instakill

[crystal willow]

Wait how would that work

[runic relic]

Caretaker death=giga aoe

[patent elk]

His death explosion isn't like a bulk detonators

[crystal willow]

Wouldn’t it require the hiveguard to be in a weak point state

[patent elk]

Won't kill

[crystal willow]

What if we could crush it with the hatch opening

It wouldn’t work but it would be incredibly funny

[patent elk]

Best place I'd think to go is one of the shield generator rooms

Whichever is more open and flat is where I'd fight the hiveguard

[crystal willow]

Probably but I’m more worried about sniper turrets

[runic relic]

Yep or you just kill Babies/antenna

[crystal willow]

So 100% a breach cutter engi will be good for this dive

[patent elk]

Scout bait

[crystal willow]

Hive guards are weird they need a certain amount of space to summon babies

And if they don’t have this

They will aimlessly wander bouncing into walls like a screensaver until they find a spot

[patent elk]

Didn't that used to be bugged where it could infinitely wander around without summoning at one point?

[crystal willow]

They can still do that

Not theoretically infinitely but there’s only like a single space it can spawn and it never reaches it

So having a hiveguard at the very end is a bit concerning

[patent elk]

Yeah

[crystal willow]

Rival tech is going to be a blessing and a curse

I love hacking an army of patrollers which can help fight hiveguard

With the downside of everything else

[patent elk]

I like those odds

[crystal willow]

True

Second mission is a nice break

Where you can just stack as much nitra as you can carry into the third section

I forget what volatile guts does

Is it like 1.5x weak point dmg

[patent elk]

They explode on death

[crystal willow]

Oh

That’s both good and horrible isn’t it

[patent elk]

Kinda

[crystal willow]

We already have exploder infestation

So it’s going to make a longer domino chain

Good for killing swarms bad for being around

Elite threat for 3 is going to be monstrous

[patent elk]

Elites are manageable until the elite bulk and grabbers show up

[crystal willow]

They are just a pain in the ass tbh

And you have to handle them with mini miles

More specifically the uplink

[patent elk]

I still remember the old grabbers that used to go through terrains cause they moved so fast

[crystal willow]

That sounds horrific

Cryo is prolly gonna be really fucking good here on driller

Diffuses exploders

Freezes elites

And this isn’t even taking account to if the caves themselves are stupid

I would love to hear the viewpoint of somebody who’s played the dives this week

[fading sierra]

stuck on stage1 of the regular dive... hiveguard won't spawn her sentinels

she's just wandering around doing nothing

we've done both power stations

???

ma'am??? 😭
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812156435685310465/1154420062665580596/image.png

anyone else?

[nimble fractal]

you have to force reset the behaviour loop iirc

try getting hit or knocked

[burnt sandal]

stick to its jaw and pickaxe it until it reacts

[nimble fractal]

apparently hopping on it works aswell, didnt have the chance to test it myself

[hazy trench]

heyyy quick question do deep dive missions drop beer mugs?

[burnt sandal]

don't believe so

[nimble fractal]

do you even get bp progression for dds?

[burnt sandal]

yeah, as much as a normal mission, it doesn't count for free

[fading sierra]

harassing her with picks worked, thanks brothers

[crystal willow]

So this does happen in that cave

Great

that’s what I was worried about

[crystal willow]

If it happens again try to push her into a larger area

She needs space for babies

[forest carbon]

How doable is final stage not as driller

[analog pollen]

Running EDD on Au server if anyone keen

[stray bane]

how’s the EDD?

last cave good?

[finite vigil]

oh jeez..

oh wait, it's only normal DD

[spiral badge]

Dread + caretaker is rough lol

[unborn obsidian]

aggro her to get them to spawn, if it doesnt work that might mean they already spawned somewhere

[tame carbon]

I'm not gonna sugarcoat it

I hate Leech cluster

Second time this on an elite deep dive

[crystal willow]

Are the caves ok?

[hidden belfry]

If you continue to repeat the same elite deep dive will I continue to get parts?

Or is there no point?

[burnt sandal]

you get rewards once a week per deep dive

if you want more, you'll have to wait for the reset next week

(or do the weekly core hunt)

[crystal willow]

I wish you could get the rewards more then once

[jagged rapids]

You can get extra rewards thru:
-- promotions
-- weekly core hunt
-- every 5 forges (rotates between blank core and OC)
-- randomly in missions

[halcyon dune]

hello all, i am new here so sorry for the random message in the wrong channel, but i am locked out of all the other channels and vcs with no option to join or gain access to an lfg channel for example. can anyone suggest what i should do ?

[shadow temple]

iirc there's like 6 leeches near where the refinery is on the final stage

Fun lol

[jagged rapids]

The wombo combo that means drillers gotta go sludge

[jagged rapids]

Pick a role in #welcome-and-rules

[crystal willow]

I mean as an excuse to do the dives again

Dives are fun sometimes not all the time

[jagged rapids]

Tbh you don't need one. I do them 2+ times a week and I don't get any rewards anyway really

I do em for fun

Back to dive content: go get them rewards miners

Yee

[forest carbon]

Mactera plague is worse

Lethal enemies probs worst

[tame carbon]

that's very true

[ancient lily]

Got caveleached into spitball true combo

Caveleach, teammates shot me down from it, plopped into the literal lap of a spitballer right below it and got loogied to go down

[rocky musk]

the forge mastery (every 5 forges) rotates between cosmetic core and OC actually
unless that changes if you have all cosmetic ones already

[ancient lily]

Stage 3 of dd

[ancient lily]

Theres like 480 comsetic cores to like 120 weapons, right?

[hallow crow]

cant believe dark souls boss true combo u now

[tiny dagger]

would anyone like to do the deep dive with me because i cannot trust people anymore after getting banned in the third stage for no reason

[gritty igloo]

Hey Guys i just bought the game today and played the totorial does anyone wanna play and show me the basics of the Game?

[burnt sandal]

Read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role
You'll want to post in #lfg-steam or any equivalent channel for your platform.

Also i'm going to change your name, as it's rule-breaking. Do not change it back to what it currently is, please.

[gritty igloo]

Ok Thx

[violet raptor]

That morkite map on the did was annoying

[maiden matrix]

How we feeling about this weeks Edd miners

[eager atlas]

It's not aoe, but from what I heard he just kills everything in the map when he dies, dunno if real

[crystal willow]

boutta try the first dive

reg

nvm elite first cuz it has a lobby

[finite vigil]

the utter lack of nitra in the first stage EDD is concerning..

[crystal willow]

I found a good bit

not nearly enough but a good bit

[finite vigil]

thankfully stage 3 is generous

welp, for whatever reason my team decided to all die one after another.

sigh.

[nimble fractal]

check you ceilings in stage3 DD

had a bunch of horizontal leech jumpscares in solo

[finite vigil]

did all that

just they all decided to die during a swarm.

like what the hell am I supposed to do as a scout with a billion enemies on me.

[nimble fractal]

that was more of a PSA, not really pointed at you tbh

[finite vigil]

and a broken-ass left mouse button that refuses to hold down so I can't hook my way out.

[eager atlas]

throw a pheromone grenade, then cry because that was your last grenade

[vagrant sonnet]

I seem to be unable to chat in a bunch of the channels, including drg-chat, can someone help me out? I don’t see a help channel, and this is one of the few channels I can chat in. (Note I didn’t read most of the info channel, so it’s most likely my fault)

[eager atlas]

get a role in #welcome-and-rules

[finite vigil]

was also running out of ammo a lot cos of how much I was having to do.

maybe running ED Zhukovs ain't a good idea.

[vagrant sonnet]

thank you! :D

[wise iris]

beat edd without driller :s

whats the perk called again? resupplier? 30% dr near mule?

[steel python]

That's veteran depositer

[unborn obsidian]

i havent done the EDD yet since i have to do my promotion assignment, anything i should know b4 i do it?

[steel python]

Also you remembered to my comment FROM APRIL

[wise iris]

feels like its a good perk to bring on edd?

[wise iris]

dont die ||too much||

[steel python]

I personally always use it on all classes, but it can be swapped for Resupplier, Friendly, or the red sugar one

[wise iris]

i used vet, resup and born ready

[tall relic]

This seems like a good sludge pump EDD but I'm not super used to using it yet

Might just stick with my cryo tcf build

Oh there's a lot of spitballers?

Ok def cryo then

[still geode]

tcf is very good against spitballers if you can land the shot

[compact shard]

hows the edd

[hallow crow]

3rd edd was fun but not hard

varied terrains that bugs can get close to you

but open enough

[compact shard]

maybe engi sounds good for blackbox and exploders

[hallow crow]

or cryo driller

[tall meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565850434376302613/1154564793835982918/20230921143825_1.jpg Fun EDD

[jagged rapids]

I would think the same but cryo for caretaker is kinda bad imho but beyond that one objective, cryo would be solid.

I think sludge driller is better across the board for this one but I won't be able to run it till tomorrow night 🥲

So can't truly say yet but at a glance, I'd lean sludge if going driller

[hallow crow]

oh i was talking about edd lol

not dd

but yea sludge sounds good although u might still struggle with robots

unless if u bring sludge blast

[jagged rapids]

Oh my b lol, mixed up the dives

[ancient lily]

To Cosminus and crew, sorry the game hates me and loves disconnecting me

That is all

[jagged rapids]

You can rejoin a dive you got disconnected from usually

That's the only way to late join a dive: you were in it already when it started and got disconnected, game crashed or you turn off the game and restart it

As long as the host didn't also DC obviously

[ancient lily]

It was still going, it just didn't let me. rando lobbies tend to do that.

Did it against stage 3

I'm done with this

fuck it

Sorry to the second group as well. I wish I knew why this game hated my internet/other way around

[torpid crater]

Bro this week's deep dives look a little spicy

[untold saddle]

https://discord.com/channels/257785731072786435/1046798439016583178

[safe ocean]

why is nobody mining gold

:<

[upbeat agate]

No one mines gold in higher levels

[torpid crater]

I'm a money goblin I cant resist

[lime charm]

low value

[mild onyx]

@hardy coyote

[torpid crater]

[solid walrus]

I actually meet a lvl 700 or something dude who was telling me that he mines gold bc of promotions

Idk what he spends gold on, but I don't have this problem

[torpid crater]

Probably clearing out the whole cosmetic shop and stuff

[solid walrus]

But I like I'm doing the same thing

I bought everything for 3/4 classes

I think he probably doesn't sell minerals

[vast gate]

you never know when you might need 5000 of something at once

its good to have a stockpile

[torpid crater]

Unless you already have every thing

[solid walrus]

When?

Actually

Even with cosmetic overclocks you won't spend more than 2k of each if forge them at least sometimes

[drifting tree]

always at 0 bismor lol

and 0 jadiz

and 0 enor

[vast gate]

just in case

what if theres an emergency

[solid walrus]

Yh bismor and jadiz are the lowest for me too

But 8k of croppa...

[drifting tree]

never had low croppa

also have a hard time getting the cones for the beer

[vast gate]

only had a bismor crisis once in my life, but the magnite grind never stops

oknomoreofftopic

thoughts on deep dives

[solid walrus]

Elite one was fun

Regular dd probably easy af since it's regular dd

They are never difficult

I honestly should start doing them in 5.5x2

[vast gate]

the hardest part about regular dd is getting people to play it with

[solid walrus]

Yh especially if you run more players mod

People are so damn impatient

[lilac cedar]

Anyone on Playstation looking for people to play with

[next pebble]

#lfg-playstation

[lilac cedar]

Won't let me talk in that channel

[next pebble]

go read #welcome-and-rules and solve that problem first then

[compact shard]

can you fail a blackbox and do it later or does it end the deep dive completely?

[woeful atlas]

ends i think

solo scout EDD is pain when theres black box

i wonder if theres a better build for that specifically

[compact shard]

not playing scout

simple

[thick sapphire]

i think blackbox can be failed and you can just try again

though i haven't had a situation where we let it fail without all dying first

[torpid crater]

It feels kinda silly that you just immediately lose if you fail the uplink

[thick sapphire]

did manage to get the dd and edd done first try, edd only got a bit sketchy when we accidentally popped the cocoon from the pod at the start

so we had to clear the (leech infested) cave with a hiveguard and its sentinels roaming around

[hushed sequoia]

you can fail blackbox objectives and restart them, just not the salvage ones

[tall relic]

EDD felt on the easy side but it was fun

Stage 3 refinery missions are always a blast

I almost wish the DD and EDD were swapped tho, sabotage with a dreadnought sounds fun as hell

[solar heron]

The last cave of EDD is actually really annoying

Little solid floor, huge open space, and macteras

[jagged rapids]

Not sure what you mean. There's nothing from stopping you doing both dives and having that sabo+dread fun... Unless you mean the lower difficulty since it's on the DD instead of EDD?

[tall relic]

Yeah haz 3 makes it significantly less interesting

[jagged rapids]

Gotcha. The way I add difficulty on the DDs is by running all ranks welcome lobbies. I'm sure a lobby of first promo players will give ya a nice fun challenge but i know what you mean.

It's the same reason I've gotten to the point of prioritizing the EDD and I'll do the DD if I have time (like last week I didn't manage to do the DD bc I'm traveling for work but I got the EDD done before leaving)

Don't worry tho, there'll be another wombo combo like that for EDD (and I'm sure everyone will hate it bc everyone cries when sabo is involved in anything sadly... The crying has gotten quite old tbh)

Not denying it can be a tough challenge at times tho but... If it's that frustrating.... It's ok to just skip it. You'll live

[tall relic]

Yeah it's nuts that there are people who don't like sabotage

The Caretaker is one of the most engaging fights in the game

But yeah, I usually don't bother with regular deep dives unless I'm desperate for overclocks, as I rarely find them fun. All ranks welcome lobbies isn't a bad idea tho

[jagged rapids]

Tbh I understand not enjoying caretaker in dives or assignments. Not judging for that. Sometimes I don't feel like dealing with caretaker myself. I'm just tired of the crying and moaning about it. Like people will start crying about sabo in a dive before even trying it

He's only occasionally a challenge

Sometimes he's annoying. But just ... Skip it, world doesn't need to hear how much you don't like one mission

Even other missions can suck at times. It's random

But especially on dives, people cry just seeing it show up

Especially on the deep dive Reddit post

[patent elk]

It's really just the arms that can clip through the terrain and snipe from the floor or behind a wall (at least for me). It's one thing but it happens at the worst possible moment without miss

[jagged rapids]

The claws do need some rebalancing imho but it's not world ending (usually... 😅)

If anything my only complaint for caretaker would be the phase bombs. Sometimes they are just like non-stop for 2 minutes and it's just stupid unbalanced.. Can hurt on a dive but yet again.. It's random and the next run could be totally fine

But I do kinda wish they balanced phase bombs. It get crazy some runs for no reason

Can't res, can't stop running, can't think bc booom boom boom

[near dune]

whats cracka lacking my gs

[jagged rapids]

Sup miner

Everything else for caretaker is fine and fair tho imho

[patent elk]

Bombs aren't too bad since I always pick a spot 3 wide and just go in a loop to dodge

[near dune]

whos ready to game

i boutta aimbot on these nerds

[jagged rapids]

It's mostly just when your whole team is down and you can't even res but ya usually just gotta find a nice spot

[jagged rapids]

2 things:

1. You need to pick a role in #welcome-and-rules
   2.. This is not a channel to find players. Once you pick a role you can use one of the "lfg-" channels to find players on your platform (aka PlayStation, Xbox or steam)

[patent elk]

True

[jagged rapids]

This is just a channel for chatting about the weekly deep dive

[jagged rapids]

That's the only time phase bombs annoy me. Tho it happens in the dive more often bc I tend to run with any and all ranks and newer players can struggle with dives in general but combo that with sabo and it can be a 💩show

Granted...I live for that chaos... USUALLY

[tall relic]

I think Caretaker is totally fair as long as you prep for it properly

If the terrain is bad then fix it with platforms/drilling, have several safe retreat spots, ideally have a ceiling hole for satchels/nukes, a few ziplines, and you're golden

[jagged rapids]

Overall agree but there are things that could be fixed.

The claws sometimes spawn insanely in your face (granted it's actually based on you being you far away but a slight balance could help) and I think a of a delay between when phase bombs spawn or how many it can launch in general for a phase would help..

Beyond that tho, it's pretty much always doable (granted I've had one EDD like a month or two ago that was trying just pain. I think most of the community failed, skipped or just absolutely hated that EDD). It was the sandblaster EDD with the first mission as sabo+morkite with lethal enemies... That is one of the only dives I had to say fk it after like 9 attempts but beyond that, its always felt doable. Even that one was doable, I got to stage 3 several times and we just goofed as a team but I had failed with so many teams to get beyond stage one that I just decided it wasn't worth it

[tall relic]

9 attempts damn yeah

[jagged rapids]

Lol yea

Especially when you know you get nothing from the dive anyway

As in my case, so I just decided it was ok to skip one week

Don't think 120 minerals is a steep loss

When I'm sitting on thousands of minerals

[tall relic]

Yup

[jagged rapids]

Tho I still wish I'd finished but tis what it is. It's ok to let go

Maintaining a streak < maintaining your sanity

[tall relic]

I don't think I'd even have the time to attempt a single deep dive that many times

I'd love for an EDD to kick my ass without being bullshit tho

[jagged rapids]

Oh I'm a psycho lol. I rerun dives often

Sometimes it's just for the challenge, sometimes it's just because I want to help others get it done

Bc I remember when I struggled with dives, especially EDDs

[bitter stump]

Me omw to bring an ammo hungry build into a deep dive because I have no idea what I'm doing:

[tall relic]

I'll rerun EDDs that I enjoy generally

[jagged rapids]

Worry not, you'll figure it out with time

And the right players will help guide you on your journey

[tall relic]

I've been playing them since week 195 and my two favorites so far are the magma core EDD that had the stage 3 mactera plague salvage and the recent azure weald EDD with stage 3 refining

But the only one I've failed so far was the one with the infamous magma core salvage, and that's only due to a bulk spawning right above the uplink. Unavoidable bullshit basically

[jagged rapids]

Tbh your memory is better than mine 😅 I joined 2 years ago so I don't keep track of the dive week number. I just remember the few I struggled with

[tall relic]

Nah I looked it up hahah

[jagged rapids]

Oh lol

[tall relic]

I remembered I started with crystalline caverns

[jagged rapids]

I was gonna say, I can't even tell you what week we're on now for dives

[tall relic]

Yeah me neither lol

[jagged rapids]

I just go by screenshots. I used to screenshot every dive completion... Sadly gotten a bit lazier but I still have so many. My favs are the competitions with very new players. They make me proud. Same as in haz5 runs, I love when a greenbeard sticks thru it or even shines during those missions

They can surprise and delight ya often

[tall relic]

Ah yeah definitely

[jagged rapids]

Another dwarf of culture I see 🧐

[tall relic]

I don't have experience with super new players

But I've hosted a few matches where people got their first EDD clear and it was cool

[jagged rapids]

It'll happen (if you're doing pub dive lobbies at least)

But yea that is exactly what I strive to do bc some legends helped me with my first EDD and I still remember how giddy and grateful I was. You could even say I was inspired

[tall relic]

Yeah for sure

Getting "thank you" messages after clearing an EDD is super gratifying

[jagged rapids]

Best feelings 🤌🏿🤌🏿

[kindred coyote]

hows the terrain on stage 3

[shadow temple]

For EDD? Okayish from what I recall, but there's a well that's kinda tricky to get to

#1 priority above all is getting rid of all the leeches. Highest concentration is near the refinery

Someone asked when's the best time to kill the Hiveguard...idk I'm not an expert, but my group said they'll pop it after the first swarm ends so that "they don't get to deal with mid-swarm crisis"

[compact bay]

wow the second part of the normal dd is TERRIBLE solo, purely because of the black box placement and exploder infestation

i don't see it being possible solo unless ur driller or engineer

[lavish hill]

Any advice for EDD stage 3 other than go as fast as possible? Ended up having a warzone with more craters than the moon and got overwhelmed on the escape phase.

[vale saffron]

i've been wondering
what's an example of a niche build that shines in an EDD, synergizing well with a coordinated team
but in regular pubs, is kinda meh

[pale valley]

fat boy

[turbid dawn]

cryo bursting dreads

[ivory marten]

How bad is the terrain in the regular dive?

[marble mango]

I have tried an EDD 17 times. from pure spite ig

[marble mango]

if you are a driller, it's fixable with a lil touchup

[devout locust]

Sure was https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1154695213554597888/1154696226642591754/2023-09-22_10_20_55-Deep_Rock_Galactic.c2194x1234.png

[compact bay]

mad respect for pulling it off as scout
you did what i couldn't do

[nimble fractal]

Well it's still haz 3 and you have a bit of space to move and time to resup between spawns

[devout locust]

Yeah i sure took my time, longest mission in a while

[nimble fractal]

Don't be afraid to chew through resups in solo, odds are you have more than enough nitra or will find some soon

If you seem to be running out i'd suggest speeding up, less waves and swarms = less resups needed

[devout locust]

True, i had like 300 left at the end and i didn't use like 10 of the ressuplie parts that i ordered

would not have made it this far without bosco ❤️

[nimble fractal]

Bosco is the real mvp

[devout locust]

True

[ivory marten]

Slight teeny tiny problem.

I... play Gunner during deep dives.

[marble mango]

solo?

[ivory marten]

:)

[marble mango]

xD well, get your rocky mountain then @ivory marten

should be workable

deep dive manageable this week if you are playing gunner. someone said that this week's EDD is a driller skill check, which I kinda agree.

[turbid dawn]

wait for ethosaur to show you how its done

[marble mango]

ethosaur?

[nimble fractal]

Gunner has enough damage output to not even flinch on regular dd, maybe except the exploders

Also.. shield

[marble mango]

oh he's a streamer, ok. more people to subscribe

[turbid dawn]

why i just completed it

seems perfectly fine

[marble mango]

nice 😄

[marble mango]

EDD?

[turbid dawn]

yeah

edd

i dont see the skill check part

max dmg c4 solves both the dreads and the caretaker problem

theres even a natural ledge for you to chuck c4 off in the caretaker fight

run sludge and bosco does the rest

if the building pipes seemed "hard" you can use supply pods for free ledges in the middle of gaps

[marble mango]

yeah I took my time figuring out how to reach the highest pipeline

*highest well

[turbid dawn]

its close to a wall mate, walls are drillers best friend

[marble mango]

I did that yup.

[marble mango]

yeah... why I didn't think of that

i ended up drilling past the egg and unto a wall

[turbid dawn]

well if you didnt want to drill at all, you can use the minehead itself to get to the top ledge, didnt have time for that

benicopter has a run in which he uses the frame of the minehead as ledges for the pipes

but that is only really for scout play

or engie

[marble mango]

let me check my recording to see why I took my time figuring this out

[turbid dawn]

what was ur primary?

[marble mango]

it was sludge with disperser compund

[turbid dawn]

hmm i personally prefer vim, but dc is good too

[solid zephyr]

hey uh, why cant i chat in any chats other than this one

[marble mango]

get your roles

[solid zephyr]

where ;;

[turbid dawn]

#welcome-and-rules

[solid zephyr]

oh thank you!

[ivory marten]

Howdy howdy.

Welcome to the server.

[marble mango]

yeah I saw the blackbox recovery and it's crystaline cave, so I expect tight tunnels, so that's why I picked DC

but i dont think it's a good pick for elim

[turbid dawn]

i would do the exact opposite for tight tunnels, when i can kite enemies with movement the DoT of dc is great! in tight tunnels i prefers the dmg of vim

also dc is good for elims

with axes its very very good

[marble mango]

let me check my loadout after this, but I remember I paired DC with slowdown mod

[marble mango]

is it via DoT or slow?

[turbid dawn]

dot, you can ask ethosaur for why they run DC, its their fav oc afaik

[marble mango]

alright

[turbid dawn]

ah my bad i believe they run HIA

got the ocs mixed up

[smoky crag]

how do i join calls

[marble mango]

nw, yeah the HIA is the super slowdown, I can see why it's it's great on elims (i need to try that sometimes)

[turbid dawn]

get ur roles in #welcome-and-rules

[turbid dawn]

yeah sorry i rarely remember names, just their effects

[marble mango]

xD nw, wiki is my friend in that case

[turbid dawn]

same had to open it to see what they were called

[turbid dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSw3Wji7-jg heres a fun driller run vs dreads

[marble mango]

I forgot to say that I got hiveguard spawn on stage 3
https://youtu.be/hTmPm-a7utE?si=o0MLK8uop2XqP6KA&t=1648

[marble mango]

im sold on the HIA solo run xD alright

[turbid dawn]

hiveguard is the spawn for stage 3

[marble mango]

so it's expected to fight 2 hiveguards?

TIL

[eager atlas]

I just spent two swarms looking for the third pumpjack in the EDD, only to realize I had all 3 already

[marble mango]

we had our moments.

[burnt sandal]

No, I think Arzedra thought you were talking about the hiveguard from the cocoon, but the random spawn is just that : random.

Ser, this is #deep-dive-discussion

[nova lava]

Last night's deep dive nearly went awful, Nemesis + Dreadnought at the same time

[maiden portal]

Anyone want to do the elite deep dive around 6:30est

[delicate bear]

Bruh why cant grass type in #drg-chat

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role

[delicate bear]

Thank u dwarf.

Remember to touch grass

[burnt sandal]

I suggest you don't go in there just to type "grass" though

[half ermine]

got a nemesis in DD stage 3 lol

[burnt sandal]

Did you just mute them Alex ? Or was it someone else ? 😂

[feral zenith]

?? Not sure, I didn't mute them

[burnt sandal]

Yeah no it was the bot

they said a very bad word

Just gonna clean that out

[turbid dawn]

i believe this is a seeded spawn for 4 players

[unborn obsidian]

wheres the message with the deep dives

[exotic belfry]

Check pinned

[nimble fractal]

Had a neme in solo aswell

[lone monolith]

b r u h pc crashed mid hosting an EDD, sorry to team

f

[sterile kettle]

So how does one gain access to drg-chat?

And or also drg-memes-no-talk?

[jagged rapids]

Pick a role in #welcome-and-rules

[sterile kettle]

Oop I didn't notice it

[sterile kettle]

Thanks

[jagged rapids]

Literally no one does, it's ok 🤣

[burnt sandal]

nah, half the people do

the others half don't

well okay it's more 33/66

but some do !

[jagged rapids]

Well that's better than what I thought 😅 good to know

[next pebble]

Reading hard

[burnt sandal]

for 2 people out of 3, it is !

[carmine knot]

God I hate that stupid stupid stupid cleaning mission

It's the worst

It's so damn unfun

I hate it

My opinion

[jagged rapids]

Uhhhh... There's no cleaning objectives in any deep dive

[carmine knot]

Oh shit

I did not read

Deep dive

I saw discussion

[jagged rapids]

🤣🤣

All good. You want #drg-chat

[burnt sandal]

first off : read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role, it will give you the permission to chat in the main channel

[wraith shard]

hey good mods, i want to get banned, thank you

[worldly relic]

how is this week's normal deep dive? it could be my first one

[ancient sapphire]

Really easy

[burnt sandal]

Sure

Here, forever muted.

[civic yoke]

Very kind of the moderators to comply with the demands of this nice gentleman.

[burnt sandal]

I'm nice like that

[civic yoke]

oh industrial sabotage, well at least it is on normal deep dive, so the people complaining it's greatly reduced

[long jewel]

hello :3

[pale valley]

mushrum

[long jewel]

how do i gain acces to regular chat

[old widget]

scroll up a few lines

[burnt sandal]

#deep-dive-discussion message

[candid osprey]

Where’s the pinned deep dive stuff?

[old widget]

the first post in the pinned messages contains this week's deep dive info.

[candid osprey]

Sorry I’m bad at discord, where’s that?

Nvm I found it

[oak pecan]

How is the cave gen for the refinery on the EDD?

Is a driller required or could you solo gunner it

[hard pagoda]

bruh got some dumb driller host who quited the mission at the last stage in DD we did everything

[jagged rapids]

For anyone that can't find it in the future: click the channel name up top to pop out the right side bar with pinned messages

Or just swipe left (on Mobile)

[shadow temple]

You definitely need a class that can modify terrain easily, as one of the wells is really high up and on the opposite side of the cave

Or you can also just drink rocky mountain I suppose

[oak pecan]

Damn

These EDD refineries always have to have crappy cave gen

I just want to solo gunner

[jagged rapids]

You still can. If you disband your lobby, the beer changes. IDK why but special beer rotation is bugged. I believe it's supposed to be tied to the mission rotation (aka changes every 30 mins) but it just changes whenever you start a new lobby.

Aka you can brut force to get the rocky mountain beer so you can deal with terrain without driller

[oak pecan]

Yes I am aware of that

I always brute force it for red rock (sometimes rocky mountain if the terrain is 3 hit)

Looks like I could just do rocky mountain

[jagged rapids]

Yee, that's your best path tbh if gunner is the path ya want

[oak pecan]

Im more complaining that the cave gen always has a well thats like 20m above the refinery

[jagged rapids]

I usually go slayer stout for almost everything but that's just bc it's my favorite beer hands down

[jagged rapids]

Ahhhh, I gotcha

[oak pecan]

Yeah, I have just been doing too many solo engie EDDs recently a

[jagged rapids]

Oof solo engi refinery vs solo gunner

One goes down way smoother 🫠

I'm curious to see how bad the last cave is for EDD tonight. Won't be home for another couple hours but it sounds like dive is overall easy... Just cave gen is poop stage 3

[oak pecan]

👍🏻

[next pebble]

Aaaaaa

[jagged rapids]

Bbbbbbb

[civic yoke]

i agree to the statements above me

[jagged rapids]

A cultured dwarf 🤌🏿🤌🏿🤌🏿

[fringe pecan]

anyone know if this server has #dwarf-drip?

[next pebble]

It's called the gallery

[thick sapphire]

or be my team and accidentally pop it getting out of the pod

[lavish surge]

Not sure if this is a bug or not but the 2nd stage deepdive had over 8 mactera grabbers praets and 12 acid spitters in one swarm and enemies never stopped spawning it was so bad enemies started despawning to enemy limit cap i think. Needless to say we wiped both times.

[wraith shard]

i somehow won the elite with 2 greenbeards

its hell

[jagged rapids]

Greenbeards will surprise you.

Never assume based on rank

[wraith shard]

one of the greens won the deep dive that's the funniest part

we were all down and he made it to the pod

[jagged rapids]

Case and point 🤌🏿

And congrats on the dub 🔥

[oak pecan]

jesus christ why are there so many spitballers on stage 2 of the EDD

[jagged rapids]

Breeding season

[oak pecan]

I will personally shove a breach cutter down each one of those damn things throats

[wraith shard]

if only id brought my nograv sludge

but nah i decided to go flamethrower with 10 range

[leaden crystal]

Hi, How can I get an extra slot for passive skills?

[eager atlas]

there's a star shaped perk in like, the 4th or so column

also another one in the last one

[jagged rapids]

Please go pick a role in #welcome-and-rules and ask this in #drg-chat instead. Question is not related to deep dives

Tho I think Konato covered it well above

[leaden crystal]

sorry

[jagged rapids]

All good, thanks for fixing so quickly ❤️

[fickle viper]

How do i access the chat button for xbox??

I was in a deep dive when someone chatted with me and i was wondering if this is exclusive to deep dive or not? As ive never seen anyone type before

[jagged rapids]

Go into your game setting >> controls >> open chat

It's disabled by default

You can assign it to double tap the salute (rock n stone) button

[fickle viper]

Oohh

Oh cool

Nice thank you!

[jagged rapids]

No prob. Btw this question should've gone in #drg-chat rather than here in the future

And welcome to the community miner 🫡

[fickle viper]

[thick sapphire]

i brought scc to the regular deep dive so that i could be an eyesore to the caretaker

[jagged rapids]

Nicee

End well for ya?

[thick sapphire]

regular deep dives aren't really challenging anyways

[jagged rapids]

Depends on who ya ask. Not everyone excels at haz3

[thick sapphire]

true

but yeah i'd just grapple around to shoot the eyes

[compact shard]

died more in the dd than the edd oopsie

last stage of the edd i used the natural spawn bulk to kill hiveguard it was so sastifying

[shy island]

What’s the stages for the regular deep dive

Nvm

I’m dumb

[oak pecan]

Got through that EDD

That egg hunt seemed a little harder than the refinery mission when it came to swarms

Though that may be because I got a grunt and a pox swarm while I was running breach cutter engie

[eager atlas]

as long as you line them up the BC will cut through them all
though it's better to have triple line for pox ones

[tiny dagger]

this edd has been absolute hell

i got the 2% of a bulk on third stage

the map is so weird

[kindred coyote]

it be like that sometimes

[honest portal]

deep dives were easy this week

i did it with randoms lol

[analog sedge]

do i still get the overclocks if i die 2 missions in the DD?

[royal ibex]

Is multiplayer on PS5 broken right now? Tried for hours with two friends but everything we did resulted in failed to join or a black screen

[lavish hill]

You get one for each completed stage

Complete stage 1, you get blank. Stage 2, you get OC. Stage 3, you get cosmetic. You don't need to complete the whole deep dive to get anything besides the cosmetic.

[analog sedge]

oh ok

thanks

[lavish hill]

Mind, you only get one on the first completion of a stage. You can't just keep rerunning the same DD except for the credit and XP rewards.

[turbid dawn]

and huuli minerals

[modest mantle]

Hello. I'm new to whole discord thing. Never used this before... I know this channel is about deep dive discussion. But I was wondering if anyone can help me. This is one of the few channels I can message... Why it says that I dont have permission to message in some channels?

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role

[modest mantle]

Thank you so much!!!

[spice widget]

Hey guys, can I post screenshots here:?

[zenith ember]

Get a role and you can access the gallery channel

[spice widget]

Oh my bad thanks

[prime coral]

how do I get started on deep dives

[woven gate]

[lethal blaze]

I'm looking for some people to do the Elite Deep Dive with, anyone interested? I'm NA East

[raven carbon]

Need to promote at least one dwarf

And only promoted ones can do the deep dives

[jagged rapids]

Go into #welcome-and-rules and pick a role.

Then you can ask this over in #playstation channel. Ping me over there

[silent girder]

guys if i complete a regular deep dive and get the matrix cores, can i still get the matrix cores upon completing an elite deep dive?

[gilded skiff]

Ivs never done one before

If i just go into it will i be able to complete it or is difficult

[leaden cypress]

Yes

[reef shell]

I need to play the Deep Dives more

[leaden cypress]

However redoing a deep dive won't give you any matrix core

[sinful pewter]

I've only done ONE deep dive so far in my 140+ hours lol

[grave harness]

its incredibly tilting to die on your first EDD, on the last mission, on the run back to the drop pod
Plus the dread was bugged for 20 min and wouldn't summon his mobs

We blew an iron will trying to unbug him, and that didn't work, but it did set us back on health+not having one to use later

[tiny dagger]

why

[jagged rapids]

They vary weak to weak so it's hard to say. But it also depends on what hazard level you are comfortable with. If you feel pretty comfortable in haz 3 or 4, give the DD a go to start. If you are good with haz4 /5, you should give the EDD a try but just be ok with it likely being a big challenge until you do more of them

[sinful pewter]

bc yes

[pallid plover]

anyone on south america for deep dive elite?

[storm ether]

Just completed my first deep dive. it felt good

[jagged rapids]

Congrats 🎉

Many more to come I hope

[jagged rapids]

Someone just pinged in #lfg-playstation looking for deep dive

Looks like they got 2 players rn

[worldly relic]

i failed my first attempt, the exploders during black box were too much for me

[minor kelp]

Hi everyone, I wanted to ask, me and my friend wanted to play with people in the server, but most of the chat channel en vocal voice is lockt, do you know the way to have access to the "pod" channel voice or where is the rules about them, thanks in advance.

[civic yoke]

go to #welcome-and-rules and get roles

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role

[minor kelp]

Aaah thank you !

[civic yoke]

man this channel bout to become customer support

[daring sandal]

yep, but if u die u don't get as much exp which is the real problem

and no cool victory dancing 💃

[lone cove]

hi everyone
is there a way to reset class'es rank? just 1 class

[leaden cypress]

what do you mean ?

Set your red level to 1 ?

or your promotion level ?

[lone cove]

so i want my engineer be from 0

but only engi

[leaden cypress]

Yeah but what do you mean by 0 ?

[lone cove]

1 level with no promotion

and better if my blue level was like with stock engi as well (so decreased)

sorry for my eng lol

[leaden cypress]

I don't think that's possible

[kindred coyote]

whats the edd difficulty on a scale from gurken shuck to karl

[opaque heart]

i'd say its goo sack in terms of difficulty

[kindred coyote]

alright cool

[bitter canyon]

i love

whenb the bulk

spawns

bellow the uplink

[jagged rapids]

It was pretty mellow imho. Tho my team did have a decent amount of dives but I kept getting up right back up. We had pretty good coordination without mic or chat needed (tho I think 2 of em were on party chat maybe?). I joined a random late night lobby. Got it first try.

S1... Nothing memorable TBH. Kinda forgot it was volatile enemies at points.

S2 is a breeze just watch those exploders. Blackbox is in a tunnel so they will be more of a threat if you're not checking both directions (gunner shield or cryo driller can make this a breeze or even a double turret engi)

S3 isnt that bad tbh just watch the ceiling when first exploring. Room is pretty good for dread but there is one deep pit area so be careful (engine plats going up the side plus a gunner zip down the middle will keep your team safe). cave gen isn't too bad so or mountain beer is ok for pipe building

[kindred coyote]

wicked that means i am running this edd true solo modless scout

[undone cobalt]

we need this to be an actual official deep dive difficulty scale

like

1 - gurken shuck
2 - coral tongue
3 - wall eye
4 - goo sack
5 - tumorous growth
6 - hot spring
7 - lightning crystal
8 - poison spore shroom
9 - lava geyser
10 - karl

could be refined a little more

but you get the idea

[gilded skiff]

Do i get to change my weapons between every mission

[crystal willow]

unfortunately no

[olive crow]

Hey yall, i got a question ( only reason i join this server) i just spawn in a on site refining mission, and there was a fully exposed error cube, on spawn. How rare is that?

[exotic belfry]

#drg-chat is the correct chat for that.
Grab a role in #welcome-and-rules to get access to everything

Also its fairly rare.

[olive crow]

Thxs for both answers :)

[hard wolf]

Normal deep dives should be what elite deep dives are right now and elite deep dives should be 5 5.5 6
Or 5.5 6 6.5

Or make a third option with whatever grind/requirement, maybe even have these missions have a garuentied double/triple multiplier

[gilded skiff]

Where do i find the 3 missions for the current deep dive

[leaden cypress]

Pinned message

[gilded skiff]

So if i use scout i should go m100 and dualies?

[young steeple]

You can use whatever you want. Some things are more meta than others. But it's more about what you enjoy and what you're comfortable on.

[rancid cedar]

the game isnt really hard enough to justify using meta ocs and guns all the time. I think its only necessary when playing a difficulty you are struggling on

[exotic belfry]

EDD's are already pretty hard for most players so I don't see them ever increasing the difficulty, and even if DD's are fairly easy, their difficulty fits good as casual longform missions.

The only difficulty increase I could see with the current system (without a large rework) would be allowing players to choose the DD/EDD difficulty like normal missions.

On steam, only about 7% of people have completed an EDD, and only about 18% have done a normal DD btw. (according to achievements)

[short tartan]

Anyone know why I can post in drg chat? It just keeps sending me here

[exotic belfry]

#welcome-and-rules grab a role and read the rules

wait

[short tartan]

Nvm welcome channel unlinked my picks for some reason

[exotic belfry]

you have em already lol

[vernal jungle]

hola

[shadow temple]

....hard no on this one. Seeing as deep dives unlock as early as promoting just one class of dwarves, it would be unnecessarily difficult for new folks who want the deep dive experience

[vernal jungle]

no se si esta comunidad es solo angloparlante

y no se donde hablar para encontrar compañeros para jugar

[burnt sandal]

#fan-communities

[vernal jungle]

muchisimas gracias, no lo había visto

[hard wolf]

The entire point of a deep dive is a long term mission type and I feel atleast rework elite to you know be elite

[shadow temple]

....is it not already elite enough? 💀

[languid narwhal]

sdss

[shadow temple]

I suppose if it is warranted...then there can be one more difficulty above elite

[burnt sandal]

I know

[hard wolf]

Would definitely be something more some end game content sorta an extreme end challenge would be what alot people would find fun

[manic slate]

why can't I talk in #drg-chat

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role

[tight anvil]

any1 doing elite deep dives?

[brisk crag]

Just completed my first deep dive. It was a solo one

It was also my 3rd attempt over as many weeks. I would always die halfway through the 2nd mission - not this time

[exotic belfry]

Well done miner, Rock and Stone!

[brisk crag]

Rock & stone brother

I barely scraped through, and I've bought every gun and upgrade, just playing with loadouts - wondering what I'd have to improve to handle the Elite Deep Dives!

I can always read more scout guides

It's interesting that Deep Dives are set (in stone, so to speak) for a duration, whereas when you play normal missions they're all procedurally generated with every attempt. I wonder about this, like is there any hand made aspect to the Deep Dive missions, or is it procedurally generated and then locked in, for bragging rights or swapping hints and tips with other players about how to complete this week's deep dive?

[exotic belfry]

Its procediural, same as normal mission.

The weekly thing is more for limiting rewards and to build community events since they are the same for everyone.

[brisk crag]

I see, that makes sense. Interesting to know.

[nimble fractal]

the number of people who would be interested in this is so small that it would not be worthwhile from the developers' point of view, that's what they said on a stream anyway

also modding exists

bad luck if you're not on pc though

[next pebble]

Because neither of you read the first channel you were placed in when you joined

[burnt sandal]

@glad elm @nova wolf @random gorge read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role.

[burnt sandal]

For what it's worth, it's not said anywhere you need a role to chat normally

[leaden cypress]

Speaking of which why is this channel available for users with no roles

Why not mute them entirely until they read the rules

[burnt sandal]

#deep-dive-discussion message

[leaden cypress]

I mean

[burnt sandal]

and perms are a bit of a mess rn

[leaden cypress]

by changing the rules too

[nova wolf]

very much thx

[patent elk]

This would be the better solution tbh. I've had greenbeards try and play EDD the minute they unlock it when they weren't even close to ready for it. BUT eventually them and all of us will get used to it and EDD will become easy to do and we're gonna want a harder challenge. The current EDD is fine but there should be a third level the starts off at haz 5 for us end game dwarves that want that harder challenge.

[exotic belfry]

Atm ~7% of those who own drg on steam have completed an EDD, if we assume that only half the people who buy the game actually play it then that's 14% of players. For context DD completion is 19% or 38%. If the reduction in players is consistent (About -63%) then an "Elite Elite Deep Dive" would be finished by around ~2.6% or ~5.2% of players.

That's about the same as the number of players who have completed 500+ missions.

---

So good idea and would be welcome, but is prob to much work for something only used by 5% of players.

[thick sapphire]

I've sort of done this (play EDD about as soon as I could) except that I did the regular DD (my first time) first, then opened the deep dive thread on the subreddit and saw that it was a very easy EDD week so I decided to give it a go. And I was playing haz4 comfortably by that point.

[deft tinsel]

guys i ve platinumed deep rock when rockpox came and have a desire to go play deep rock again has there been any drastic changes?🤔

[thick sapphire]

but yeah there's probably a bell curve in terms of player skill/experience that peaks around haz3 so even people like me who feel that haz5 and edd are about the right level of challenge are in the tail of that curve; the players who feel that those are too easy and would want something even harder are probably so sparse that GSG isn't really interested in catering to them specifically (plus on PC they can just use mods)

[thick sapphire]

wrong channel, but season 4 wasn't particularly huge. More rockpox enemy variety (to make clearing spikes more challenging), rockpox corruptor, two new normal glyphids (stingtail and septic spreader), jet boots (can spawn randomly in a mission). I only started in season 4 so I don't really remember all the stuff that's new from it.

[deft tinsel]

hmm thank you and sorry i need permission apparently to type in dgr-chat

[thick sapphire]

i feel like a third tier of deep dive, if the jump was similar as dd to edd, would be too much for randoms, and a lot of people who might be good enough to do it with a co-ordinated team at their skill level might not actually have said team of friends and might not be experienced enough to do it solo

even the EDD, if you play with randoms you might often run into a situation where you find newer players not really comfortable playing at that level, or sometimes everyone is decent enough but there's a lack of coordination which can be punishing for certain objective types

[exotic belfry]

grab a role in #welcome-and-rules, and remember to read the rules

[thick sapphire]

for example there was one week where stage 2 was a point extraction with black box and shield disruption in magma core and my first few tries were a struggle because we were slow to get the aquarqs done

[exotic belfry]

If it was locked behind blue level 100, or something pretty high it could work.

But tbh I think the time is better spent elsewhere due to the fact that mods that add a step above EDD already exist.

[brisk crag]

I chose a role but my name is the same colour still

[exotic belfry]

It looks blue to me

also #drg-chat

[brisk crag]

Oh cool. Maybe when I restart Discord it will be visible to me

[wraith shard]

Objectives in this weeks EDD look a lot like the objectives from the last week.

Including modifiers 🤔

[frozen totem]

It happens

[jagged surge]

What’s the deep dive today?

[burnt sandal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/258990272967475200/1152629588241948803/736913595585265664.gif

[jagged surge]

Explain? I’m stupid, haven’t touched this server in like 3 months

[granite flicker]

top right of screen, next to search bar

[jagged surge]

Oh ok

[uncut estuary]

Why are all of the chat pods locked for me? can anyone explain / give me a fix? thanks

[rustic dirge]

hi

[uncut estuary]

hello

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role

[uncut estuary]

oh ok

thanks

[patent elk]

Honestly I expected a much higher percentage. It'd make sense to not make it if the percentage of people that'd want it is that low when you could just make it with mods.

[spare halo]

rock and stone

[bitter stump]

Maybe lock EDD behind the completed 5 haz5 missions start to finish?

[heavy cobalt]

do u get afk kicked for waiting on the DD continue screen?

[civic yoke]

Idk but who would wait that long on that screen, and if u play solo you can just pause in game.

[exotic belfry]

I was referring to the supposed EEDD, the EDD is fine as is atm, If they did limit it more it would be used by even less players then currently use it lol

[bitter stump]

ah

[civic yoke]

I don't think edd needs to be blocked, like green beards either get kicked when they join a high level lobby or learn the hard way that Elite deep dives have elite in the name for a reason

of course there is dumb people that will try again with the same build after getting destroyed and dying 20 times but even 100lv+ players do that.

[leaden cypress]

The build doesn't matter in EDDs

As long as you're not intentionally making it bad, any build will work

[civic yoke]

bout to kill a dread with neurotoxin

[unique ore]

more damage than base autocannon, so yes, very doable

[merry yew]

If you were just in a regular deep dive with a scout named Drake Oaboama, that was me, and thanks for a stellar deep dive

[robust sleet]

hello just wondering whats your favorate class?

in drg

[merry yew]

Scout is my highest level

[rancid comet]

i hosted a elite deep dive and after we died on depth 3 my engi told me i was not using my shields enough but i was using them defensively for revives mostly and constantly out. i had 11 revives and 4 downs and my scout and engi both had 10+ downs. how else should i use shields if not for reviving ?

[fading sierra]

Ideally to prevent deaths and nip the need for revives in the bud

Using them for revives isn't bad or anything imo, but it means plan A (don't die) failed

(Not to say it's your fault since I wasn't there and wouldn't know but yeah)

In addition to the obvious effect of scaring off bugs the shield gives 50% damage resistance and makes your shields charge faster

I try to drop mine when my co-op partner or I are in danger of going down/general panic situations to buy us time and breathing room

[old widget]

Higher skilled gunners will use shields to prevent deaths in the first place rather than spend on a revive, and will not always spend a shield on a revive if it can be done without

[thick sapphire]

as long as you're not too greedy and start a revive without using shield and then get stingtailed lol

[thick sapphire]

i'd say at most limit edd with the "unlock haz5" assignment if anything

[crimson iris]

I gotta do that soon

I found this elite deep dive to be kinda brutal

[tight jacinth]

Who knows why I can't join any lobby?

I've played 3 month ago last time

What happened?

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[tight jacinth]

Why do I have no permiossions?

[robust sleet]

my enginer is level 46

[royal cape]

Hello

[crimson iris]

I think locking EDD behind copper promos for all dwarves would be a good idea

Compared to leaving DD as is, locked behind 1 promo

[thick sapphire]

though some people might not play all the classes

[crimson iris]

I think players should do at least one promo per class

For instance, it's hard to understand the struggles of a common dwarf as scout.

Knowing how classes are weak allows you to play your main better

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role

[thick sapphire]

true

[crimson iris]

I've had driller and scout click, gunner doesn't feel good yet, and engineer hasn't clicked at all for me

I find I get the most mileage out of driller

it does good work during dd/edd

[patent elk]

You should use them more during swarms to give your team breathing room when it starts getting overwhelming so they don't die in the first place. Especially if you're swarms are full of ranged enemies like mactera since you won't be able to kill them all before a few get their shots off which could result in downed dwarves or hell a team wipe if you that unlucky.

[ember tinsel]

For some reason this is the only channel I can talk in 😐

How can I fix that

[obsidian rampart]

Why does it force me to chat in here

[raw kelp]

di you guys pick your role in ht einfo channel?

did*

jesus my typing is awful

did you guys pick your role in the info channel?*

[unique ore]

read #welcome-and-rules, pick role

[ember tinsel]

I've done that, also there's no driller role on the thing

[unique ore]

pick a platform role

[kindred coyote]

yeah happens ive been stuck as driller for a while

[devout void]

Just fought a normal dread and a hiveguard simultaneously

[young steeple]

How'd it go?

[devout void]

So much death

[long knot]

What’s the difference between a reg deep dive and and elite one?

Besides the difficulty

[devout void]

Different area/objectives

[arctic mist]

EDD stage 3 can go to hell.

[unique ore]

besides that 1 pumpjack location, it was pretty easy, if you have a competent driller and a team that lets the driller dig instead of trying to build to it

[mint imp]

i love chewing rocks 👍

[kindred coyote]

yummy dystrum

[brazen quiver]

How yall build flame thrower on driller

Just started playing and wondering what is better

Doing a napalm desth over time or a direct dmg build

[rancid cedar]

range, sticky duration, sticky slowdown, sticky duration again, and heat radiance is really good. Basically you just paint the walls with lines of flame to kill grunts and swarmers effortlessly

Range, triple filtered fuel, both ammo mods, and heat radiance is good for robots

[brazen quiver]

Mhm noted

Also how do i get the bonus upgrades

I been told i need a star

[rancid cedar]

overclocks? You can unlock those by getting a class to level 25 and doing the promotion assignment

[arctic mist]

I tend to have to carry one or two low-ranks, and that's tough on stage 3. I can't find a game without at least one low-rank.

I was getting very frustrated about it today.

EDD need a rank requirement like 50 or 100.

And stage 3 has frequent swarms and bad terrain, so it's tough to carry if there's a weakness in the team, and there's not much room for error.

[simple cloak]

You need to get class to 25th lvl, and promote it.

[brazen quiver]

Hmmh

Ok

[rancid cedar]

i only every do edds if there are some new players in it cus otherwise it’s boring as hell

[brazen quiver]

Lvl21 so not far now

[turbid dawn]

you red lvl (class lvl) should go up to 25 which is the max and then you go to hall of fame and promote the dwarf after completing the promo missions

[turbid dawn]

20-25 is about 1/3rd of the xp from 1-25

[brazen quiver]

Huh fun

[worthy iron]

Is edd this week difficult?

[lavish hill]

Swamers and mactera for days

[worthy iron]

Not good, not good

[lavish hill]

Wait till you see the map for stage 3

[unique ore]

bring a driller

[lavish hill]

Or an engineer

[lucid haven]

Or both

[lavish hill]

Actually, bring both

[unique ore]

or just 4 gunners

[worthy iron]

I wanted to test rj250

Sounds like a perfect place

[serene cobalt]

stage 1 and 2 lure you into a false sense of security for stage 3

[rough gyro]

Which is best class for deep dive?

[serene cobalt]

the class that the team doesn’t have

also check #deep-dive-discussion pins for the missions

you will need a driller for stage 3 this EDD

[rough gyro]

I'm still new, recently promoted gunner only

So idk how it works

[rough gyro]

What's edd

[serene cobalt]

Elite Deep Dive

won’t be available until you do one Deep Dive

[valid prawn]

hah! our driller crashed

we had to use an engineer

(seriously, what is that spawn)

[runic relic]

We did a 4 engi run so we didnt even find it for like 10 minutes

But platform staircase handles it fine

[valid prawn]

i love being a scout with special powder

so i was fucking zooming everywhere

[serene cobalt]

I had RJ250 so I found the well first

took ages to build the pipeline though

[exotic belfry]

Wrong chat, go to #non-drg-chat

[burnt sandal]

No, he's getting banned

because he spammed it on multiple channels

[exotic belfry]

Ah

[boreal pasture]

How do I get roles

Can't access most of the channels

[burnt sandal]

read #welcome-and-rules and pick a role

[boreal pasture]

Thanks found it. I'm just dumb

[worthy iron]

Just what I was looking for

[true lotus]

Can people join even in the last mission of a dd

[shadow temple]

Nope, once a DD starts, there is no way for another person to join

Idk about existing people disconnecting and attempting to reconnect though, I assume they also can't reconnect if they leave the team

[tacit iris]

They can

Had a guy crash in my edd a while ago

Rejoined during a twins fight

[lethal linden]

it took me forever to find that third well in EDD

and when I did find it, the game spawned a rockpox swarm

[shadow temple]

Huh, that's coo

[lethal linden]

yeah you can’t join a DD in progress, but you can rejoin one if you dc

[tiny dagger]

it was so high i died multiple times trying to get on the pipes my engi laid

[twilit birch]

nah this weeks edd is cancer

tried like 5 times with driller

esp last stage

[wraith shard]

My team fought all the way through till getting the drop pod for the last stage and then we failed

[finite vigil]

3 feels like it necessitates the bunker strat

that many enemies spawning around you, no chance in the open

for my gunner, not sure if I should stick with LSLS or try a Carpet Bomber-style build (ain't got CB so Splintering Shells is the next best option)

or maybe Neuro Payload

[leaden cypress]

You start stage 3 with a ton of nitra

Why would you bother making a bunker when you could just shoot at everything

[finite vigil]

because eventually you get overwhelmed by the sheer number of bugs around you

[leaden cypress]

And you have the necessary supplies to handle them

[finite vigil]

I would if the rest of my team didn't die all at once

[leaden cypress]

That's a team skill issue then

[finite vigil]

yeah, that was annoying af.

even more cos they were doing fine the first few waves

then for whatever reason they decided to lose their collective brain cells

[patent elk]

Got lucky this edd. Had an engi that did his already so he knew all the well points so he guided our driller to them. Only used 1 resupply on start of stage 2 so we had a crapload of nitra for stage 3. Rest was cakewalk.

[patent elk]

Ntp and suppressive fire is pretty much the go-to gunner combo for cc. Helps with handling large waves

[leaden cypress]

NTP, minelayer, hellfire, electrominelets, carpet bomber, frag missiles, rocket barrage, etc

Too many options for CC

[finite vigil]

aight, I'll use the CC build