#deep-dive-discussion
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uhhh, we've gotten an elite bulk
maybe you'll be more fortunate
we died to a glitch at the end of EDD stage 2 right after we killed a twin lol 
not the worse threat
the bosses are your main threat tbh
but the elite threat wasn't much of an issue, since elimination doesn't spawn many enemies to begin with
what glitch?
yeah
first time I hear of this
excellent
last time we had elite there was a constant supply of elite macs and praes, and we got an elite menance
one of the twins ghost burrowed up the ground within 3 secs after it died and burrowed up from the ground as I res my fallen comrade
so...attempt 1 died at the end of stage 2 when all obj cleared lol
well
Yea
classic drg
the hardest part of the EDD was fighting haz 5.5 twins with the random aquark stragglers constantly interrupting
so make sure to fight the twins as soon as possible
yea we did it before first swarm hit
same
then get all 10 aquorqs b4 swarm 3
but the random aquark spawns still happen
then spam pheremones bomb and lures
won't the minehead help out a bunch?
also, what do you mean random aquarq spawns?
like those small pairs or singlets of enemies that come in randomly during aquarq missions?
on point extraction, you constantly get spawns, and sometimes announced swarms
the small packs never stop coming, even if a dreadnaught is active
wish dreads friendly fired like ops and prae
Don’t they
don’t think so
its rare for me to be able to test it tbh
well they aren’t affected by lures so it’s hard to test anything on dreads
The twins don't ff each other, and hive doesn't ff the sentinels. Idk if one dread ff's another though
I don’t think dread ffs swarmers so they might just not
but their swarmers are also unique
The past 2 times i've tried to kill a dread with a bulk, my teammates were useless and the explosion misses
you know I thought the swarmers were natural spawns for like a month
did it the first time today with randoms, but we had enough time to communicate in chat
The latest was me getting chased by both of the enemies trying to kill the bulk, and the dread chased me off the cliff
I even told my teammates and they did nothing
it be like that sometimes
is it me or the normal deep dive is actually harder
i have ptsd from having a hiveguard and a haunted cave modifier
fuck me

smol question whats best upgrades for turrets?
gemini + defender
tiers 2 and 3 are kinda up to your preference, most common turret setup to my knowledge is 1211
seconding what dingus said. Defender is too big of a damage upgrade to pass up and the drawback doesn't matter if you position your turrets reasonably.
Gemini is better total damage (without the ammo upgrade), lets you do dps faster, lets you cover more terrain, and lets you leapfrog turrets when moving around. Place a single turret, then when you want to place the 2nd in a new area, recall the first. While the first turret is in flight you can immediately build the second. LMG MKII doesn't hit any particularly noteworthy breakpoints on ammo efficiency with defender, is lower total damage (again with defender), lower burst damage, less flexible, less area coverage, and so on. It's just bad in comparison.
On tier 2, fast reload is basically useless, ammo is alright, and situationally the correct choice, but playing without quick deploy feels awful.
On tier 3, extra ammo capacity in the turrets is also basically useless. Both stun and armor break have their place.
personally I like armor break because the turrets could be shooting armor
I run one slow deploy defender on non-turret-focused builds like LOK1 + nuke. Turrets have so little ammo
Gemini system also has the massive synergy with turret whip, which i think is very underrated for damage. You can basically cycle between the two turrets and machine gun out the blasts super fast, which deal probably more dps than most “high single target” builds, and this is an aoe stun attack. TLDR, Gemini gud turret whip op (definitely no bias here)
Is that more efficient than turret EM discharge?
Fuel Cells seem to be bugged on EDD.
We are in the bubble yet it is failing us.
What seems to cause this? It was dug a bit under the surface.
Is it just me, or was the cave leech spawn pool on crack for the standard deep dive? My team had multiple instances of stacked leeches appearing a: in rooms that were already cleared/visited, and b: in weird parts of the geometry, i.e. on pillars, in the floor, on walls, etc.
And this happened throughout the DD.
my dd went fine
i think i saw a grand total of 1 leech in the first room onstage 1
otherwise nothing out of the ordinary
Huh.
Odd.
please tell me the second stage of the deep dive is small
please
IS IT SMALL?
i can and will solo these dives all by myself
yes even the elite deep dive
i think im gonna pick engie for the normal deep dive
and pick scout for the second deep dive
it's an egg mission cave gen. basically just one big room and a couple of tunnels. More than enough room to loop the ghost while maintaining good damage on the twins
the twins is not bad with haunted cavr
its that the last time i fought a dreadnought with it was a hiveguard
so yeah im still even skeptical just because the cave gen
besides
im running lok-1 executioner + electric oc breach cutter with armor break
it is so much better than that hiveguard one
and yes im using triple split line
i spent like 2 minutes as driller getting rid of the pillar in the middle to try to make it better
yeah that
oh my gOD that one was awful
me as an engie popping 3 dread cocoons and resulting on me fighting 5 dreads and with stubby and full ammo breach cutter :
dd is criminally easy
what's the edd like
we had a betc and just stuffed its ranged attacks with the shit terrain
My only advice is to bring a more generalist build that can handle mactera, swarmers while still do decent against dread
hmmm
ig hipster icebolt works
does icebolt work against dreads
if not then cryo minelets
Not sure, prob just as a support if driller uses cryo?
If not i doubt either oc can freeze a dread
i had a scout bring something and it froze the dread pretty quick
in the dd
well cryo drill solves both mactera + swarmers
or hellfire
Will prob work then
Lsls hellfire solves all issues
5 spitter 2 nexus in a single cave
I had many spitters in the first edd cave as well
Did the EDD with strangers and only had problems on the stage with the mini mules and morkite because theres a bunch of brood, spitters, and mactera
Stage 3 might be hard if u cant multi task the twins plus aquarcs
we just did it, I accidentally fired a mole shot into the second dread egg
so we had to fight 3
It was stage 2
how promote character :0
get to lvl 25, do the assignment, promote in the memorial hall
memorial hall got iot
Something I just found out
deep dives, or at least EDD’s give a good chunk of XP
Which is probably obvious considering they’re essentially 3 missions in a row
Beat my EDD nitra record today with 877 left to spare after ending, caverns were totally full
5 mini mules does that, yeah
Just completed my first DD. Is EDD manageable with no overclocks on scout?
Any content is manageable without overclocks, so yes, it probably is
yeah mini mules are quite the free win
depends if you experienced with hazard 5
Not yet actually, havent unlocked it. Comfortably playing haz4 tho
Ill do that first then
oh, and one of the missions on the EDD is salvage
so make sure you scout is equipped to handle that
Alright thanks
then you should be fine
EDD was swarmer city for us
they are so bloody annoying, and can eat you in seconds if you don't notice it in time
I accidentally picked my burning hell loadout instead of my big bertha loadout but it worked in my favor cus of the swarmers
How do you personally* equip scout for salvage?
you could take AV drak, nishanka for the electric aoe / pheromone utility, m1k with blowthrough, gk2 with electric reload, special powder for quick getaways, cryo grenade as a panic button
there are many ways
just take a lot of aoe
fire / cryo bolts might be good as well
I figured, but I was just wondering what you would take if you were playing that mission
then I would probably take AV drak, cryo nades, and probably specialist nishanka with pheromones
Lots of good points tho
because that's what I have
I wonder if I should take that for this week's edd
Good point tho, I'll see if it works.
because originally, someone asked if they could run this EDD solo scout, I answered, and you replied to my message

Makes sense
but the build I suggested can be run as a generalist build I guess
nishanka still provides high single target dmg
Sure. I was really just interested in your take on scout in salvage missions in general, as that's something I struggled with in the past. With teammates it's usually easier, but solo can turn for the worst without good technique.
That's been my experience at least.
Thanks for your answers
Does the no swarm strategy works in the last EDD stage?
When you pop the dread and collect all the stuff while he is roaming
don't believe so
Just etsted it works
some nromal bugs will spawn here and there
but no swarm
so it cuts off the announced swarms but not the ambiant spawns ?
so you can still get overwhelmed by those if you're too slow
not really, at least not in the current EDD, the last cave is huge
we pretty much ignored dreads and just collected aquarqs
yes, I can confirm this
thanks to both of you
Hey what sorts of builds work best for this weeks edd? Me and my firends have a good chunk of overclocks between each of our classes so whats worked so far? We might have something to use.
with 3 dreads you'd want some high single target but also swarmageddon first stage. Sticky fuel driller seems like an auto pick to this imo to take care of random bug waves
doesn’t really matter
I'll look at that thanks.
Fair enough. I'm still new to the edd scene and want to see how other people handle builds
that depends. Im the only one in my group that has decent levels for all of my classes. I usually pick a role that one of my other friends can't take. Usually that ends up being scout or driller. since my other friends main engie and gunner
so it'll be a 3 man team?
yeah
if you go driller i'd say sticky fuel + er subata or plasma epc
for scout probably aise + fire bolts?
I'd argue for cryo, since that helps for both swarmers and dreads
oh yeah. I haven't used cryo in so long i kinda brain farted about that
yeah, definitely cryo better than crspr in this regard
i do have decent cryo builds
nice
thanks for the tips everyone I'll try them out.
if you'll be running cryo, tell your friends to take some form of high burst damage, like hyper propellant, since dreads won't stay frozen for very long
ecr lok + hyperprop good for the engi
yeah
maybe leadstorm leadstorm + hellfire for the gunner
Just did the Deep Dive and Epic Deep Dive and we got a grand total of 17 Bet-Cs, average 3 Bet-C per stage. That normal for this week or we just had a freak couple of dives?
I'm 99% sure that's impossible
bet-c is a rare boss enemy with a 5% chance to spawn on map gen
almost positive more than 1 can't spawn per mission
and having one on every stage is astronomically low
Yeah we thought it was fucking weird. The game had already bugged though so somehow 5 of us ended up in 1 game
So I wondered if that had fucked with the game in general
It was also doing other weird stuff like throwing 2 or 3 bulk detonators at us at once
somehow 5 of us ended up in 1 game
grand total of 17 Bet-Cs
you sure you didn't just end up in a modded lobby that is not labeled as such?
throwing 2 or 3 bulk detonators at us at once
2 at once is common, 3 not so much
Dont you have to opt into searching modded lobbies?
definitely sounds like a modded lobby
I did think that but iv never turned modded on
And everyone in the game seemed very surprised by it all
Dont you have to opt into searching modded lobbies?
technically yes, but there are some lobbies that have sandbox mods on but play with everyone
I assume they are bypassing normal mod installation or whatever
Ah okay, well the chaos of it all was a lot of fun just wanted to know if it was something everyone was getting as seemed weird
played edd twice so far, everything was normal
Bro in the middle of deep dive stage 2
does anyone know how to make molly NOT
move
I'm playing solo
and she randomly moves
even if i dont cal her
and thats an absolute pain in the ass on haunted cave
you cannot
she will follow you when you get too far away from her
haunted cave solo is painful like that
It's easy enough it's just
annoying
I just wanna deposit the eggs in one place
and she randomly follows me
so now i have to kite the ghost away
you have to be aware of molly's position at all times just like you already track your teammates in multiplayer
just got done with the edd. duo'd with a super greenbeard driller cause our other 2 disconnected before we finished stage 1. Holy fuck man i was stressing. stage 1 swarmageddon sucks ass always
whats engi best active perks for solo dd? using dash and beast tamer rn but i dont really know
dash and iron will imo
eh you have 2 bosco revives per stage, just don't die so much
You have up to 4 though
definitely don't die that much 🙂
I did my 1st deep dive
I started as scout, I had swarmagaddon with minimules, trying to fend off swarms of enemies.
Halfway through the fueling process I was jumping around killing a never ending swarm of bugs and then a detonator spawned
I was forced to loop him around the fuel container praying I had enough time to finish the fueling process
I did it just before the swarmagaddon put me at 1 hp and I ziplined away
Jumped around the map untill the pod opened
Ended up wiping on EDD Stage 3 because my connection to the host or his connection to me or my internets connection up its own ass decided to start failing before throwing me out of the party. Literally spend 5 minutes teleporting around the map like I was getting dripfed wormhole
And I can tell you that I am not fucking running EDD1+2 again for a cosmetic core
And wile I was doing that a fuking sandstorM HIT ,MAKING ME BLIND AND ALMOST MAKING ME GRAPLIN HOOKING ON THE DETONATOR WILE I WAS BLINDLY RUNNING
well that was relaxing https://i.imgur.com/3AEdppt.jpg
holy shit i hate every scout ever
no light ? 
agree (just played scout)
asshat left me on the dreadnought/unknown horror mission
i completed the mission out of spite tho
either fire/ice bolts completely shuts down swarmageddon
if you don't have those then scout really has no good cc
you should leave swarmer clear up to teammates at this point
plasma splash handles it
New drg feature
Instead of Bosco you can have other generic ai dwarves
Wait wrong channel
My bad
woooo i beat an elite deep dive for the first time!
and my friends had bugged weapons that rendered the shield and crossbow unusable for a stage each, for extra challenge
I know the crossbow bug just pickaxe and you're fine and are able to shot again if its the one i think
first try at this week's EDD, going in
swarmageddon and two bulk detonators, annoying but first one down
NOOOOOOO
I WAS THE HOST OF A EDD
AND MY GAME CRASHED 1 MIN BEFORE WE GOT OUT
😭😭😭
EDD down. Pretty good, got the 'deep sea defender' scout weapon skin set and colette liquid cooling
The only reason I managed to complete that mission was the fact that I had fire bolts
This weeks edd was pretty easy
edd is ez
what would you boys recommend running for the elite deep dive?
kind of urgent so any advice is welcome
Spoiler for the deep dive I guess ?
||1st mission is Swarmagaddon with minimules,
Second is dreadnoughts and 3rd is acquark with 1 dreadnought, I did it on solo with scout, I found the 1st mission to be the hardest||
Question, is the spawn of deep dives always the same? Does this include only the enemies at the start or the following spawns as well?
Because if that's the case ||1 detonator might spawn wile trying to defend the fuel for the droppod||
spawns are random, to an extent. Only the pre-generated spawns are somewhat less randomized.
I once failed a deep dive to an oppressor
The following try it spawned in the exact same point
Mid mission *
purely coincidental, especially due to how oppressors spawn.
Basically, the spawn pools are globally the same and the director follow the same logic so you won't see wild variation but it will still be randomized to an extent.
In the case of oppressors, it's just praetorian spawns that are randomly selected to become oppressors (slashers and guards also work that way with grunts, btw).
Fun fact, on the current deep dive on the last lvl there us a leach right above where the droppod for ending the mission open the door
I had the perk for freeing myself but I can imagine loosing to something like that and disinstalling the game
Imagine doing an entire deep dive only for 3 of your friend to die, being forced to run to the exit and a leach right above the exit snatch you up

Could I ask a question
Uhm what's the best weapon for Driller if I wanted to speed run elite deep dives
RIP 💀
Probably the cryo cannon. Covers pretty much everything but sabo, and there's no sabo right now
holy shit i just tried the deep dive, a bulk detonator spawned right at the drop pod
i got a bulk during the black box 💯
what is it with greenbeards and using resupply pods as heals at full ammo, and then not getting nitra despite us desperately needing it
I mean we made it but I no longer want to do edds with 3 bronze 1 players
lmao
when does one technically stop being a greenbeard
Once you learn all the basics and etiquette
Here is a pretty good "guide" btw. feel free to share it with new players
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2359163576
I'm level 22, I know most of the norms if not all, and have promoted my Scout, currently working on Engineer and Driller
fellow gunner hater (based)
WHAT IS ||unknown horror|| I'M FREAKING OUT
-new player
what?
you're new?
into the deep dive thing
oh deep dive
unless that isn't deep dive exclusive
damn
i haven't even done the first assignment
it's not
the one that makes you do every mission type
it's part of the haunted cave modifier
basically an unkillable bulk detonator that will follow you throughout the entire mission
oh i heard about it
i read that it's a bug bug ghost
following you
and will smack you and destroy stuff under you
unknown horror was slightly annoying but thats it. Just made running around
as a driller unknown horror is cansur
at least goo gun works on it
goo impressively slows it down to non-existence
Deep dives am I right?
i lost count the amount of bulks we got for this EDD, one was an elite bulk, 550 hours and my first one \o/
we tried dropping a supply pod on it for science, looks like it'd take 5 supply pods to kill it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/529674786620571658/1112166660401549373/out.mp4
anyoen up to help me do a deep dive?
PSA:
fuck the deep dive. fuck it right in its orifices
this has been a PSA
goddamn buggy dreads and unknown horror
oh yeah we also met that guy, the scout had specialist and dot'ed it to death XD
he had electrifying reload + specialist with taser bolts, insane cc
Haunted cave again?!
Anything that can slow enemies can slow down the unknown horror
hey, I promoted my first dwarf yesterday, was wondering if there was anything i should know before i try a deep dive for the first time?
Its a chain of 3 missions, 1 main objective and a side objective that is a shortened variant of main ones (eg 2 eggs vs the normal 4 eggs)
There are no minerals except nitra and gold (but huuli's can still spawn)
Health, ammo & nitra reserves are carried over to each stage
if the deep dive fails though, you need to start from stage 1 again
As for difficulty, deep dives are around hazard 3 (3/3.5/3.5), Elite dives are ~ haz 5 (4.5/5/5.5)
cool, thanks
np, all the best
Ok sorry one last question, how do you start one, all of the ones availible to join are greyed out
do i just need to start my own
yeah, greyed out ones are in progress
ah ok
DIDI
partially, yes
awesome
i seem to be completely unable to join any deep dive, it just keeps saying multiplayer session ended
ive restarted my game but that doesnt fix it either
Are you able to host them?
yeah, but idk if nobody wants to join it or if nobody else can join them
Oeuf
Can you send an invite in the lfg?
Sent the request to join btw @onyx sierra
yeah i accepted it
how do i do that?
It's the green circle in the attachments part of discord chat
Ye
sent
Oh damn, it's telling me multiplayer session ended as well
Can you try disbanding the lobby and then trying?
If that doesn't work, you may have to restart drg
Sent it again
also said multiplayer session ended
ima just restart my entire pc maybe that helps
fixed it
noice
failed the edd at the beginning of stage 3 due to some freak happenings
I think I'm gonna try this one solo though, pretty easy overall. stage 2 didn't feel like haz 5

can you rejoin EDD i got disconeted on stage 3
You can rejoin a DD/EDD when you got disconnected sometimes. If the game's still running, it's possible it might happen but the functionality never worked really well.
to be sure, have the host use a steam invite link, since they're reusable.
if you're console... good luck.
well there goes my clear thanks
yes
its impossible to rejoin if the host internet is potatoe
when i dc edd or dd i just blame the host for bad hosting.

Sorry, wanted to write more, but the game went on.
Here is how you can rejoin, if the reconnect button doesn't pop out.
#deep-dive-discussion message
Tried my first deep dive got abused by other team members
Are all deep dives so sweaty?
A lot of greenbeards are playing normal DD
Tru
They don't even read the server description
I often host 8 player lobbies on EDD.
Wanted to try DD with 4 players but all stages are Haz 5
Almost all people who joined, haven't read the description at all
I only really do dd and edds with my frind group 2 ore 3 people including me
DD itself is easy and I have no issue to do it normally with greenies.
But in EDD you just have more experience players, who also read server descriptions.
Easier to have fun.
I agree with you edd is bether with experienced players is a lot more fun
I carried a greenbeard through this edd and it was quite possibly the most stressful thing i've done in this game
Understandable have a great day
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Ye
want to do it again?
Would but i don't have the time rn, too much shit coming up for me to play
Elite deepdive with scout and engi
solo gunner build?
LSLS hellfire works on any mission type
i dont have LS
Do you have a lot of overclocks or no
If less than 10 gunner ones list them out and we’ll attempt to give you something
tbh i have like almost none
one sec
compact feed mechanism. Plasma Burster Missiles. SIx shooter and magic bullets
or an engi build. Have light weight mags for warthog and overdrive and magma for shard diffractor aswell as hyper propellant
hmmm
hyperprop would certainly be nice for this week's EDD, since it has 3 dreads, and an elite threat
but, you would have to fit your entire swarmclear into turret whip and grenades
which is not a good idea against swarmageddon, I think
ah, you want something general
compact feed mechanism minigun for single target, and magic bullets for crowds would be good, I think
Lightweight mags and shard magma is a pretty solid combo too
Not as much of a dread killer but you have the sustain for swarmageddon and shard is still good for dreads if you build it right
Paired with gemini defender whip and ssg nades, should be alright
yeah, VIR doesn't hinder shard diffractor's single target dmg much, surprisingly
half charge capacity isn't horrible, and the t3 "mag" upgrade doesn't compete with weakpoint so not a horrible option
i'd probably go 31123 with vir? since the t4 heat mod ain't great on dreads and vir takes care of it everywhere else. Plus armor break on twins is nice
they said the want more of a generalist build, so I think the heat mod is still pretty good
I agree with the other choices though
yeah t4 is the one up for debate/personal preference
and i jus got brt lead spray
then you can just run oc-less aoe hurricane with lead spray I guess
I just did my first elite deep dive first try

noice
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ayy me too, second try though. last weeks deep dive I got obliterated.
Had some cracked out gunner that carried
i'm doing my first normal DD and the Dreadnought Hiveguard isn't summoning its Sentinels
that has to be a bug
it's a very common bug
smack it, throw a shield on it, bait out it's attack. All ways to fix it's ai that i've heard of
can you drop resupply pods on dreadnoughts? Do they instantly die?
Super tricky to land one on them except by luck
If you time it right, the easiest one to resupply is a Hiveguard since they stand still during their vulnerable phase.
What kind of level of preparation or experience should you have if you're interested in doing a deep dive?
normal deep dive, just be willing to work together
EDD work harder, having experience definitely helps, prepare for death
alright, cheers
can do haz 3s
This week’s dd has swarmageddon, haunted cave and 2 elimination objectives. Good luck
This week's deep dive is really tough because of the conditions you're put into
I did the normal deep dive as a two man crew (because I was with a singular friend of mine) and we were struggling with it really roughly, managed to make it out in the end because the final stage was the equivalent of a breather, but yikes, you really have to know how to manage swarmageddon
I did this weeks DD with a 4 scout team, lel
If you’re fine with normal haz 4 it should be fine really, it’ll likely be a breeze if your whole team is at that level
Hows the EDD this week ppl, Easy, medium, hard, SOUL CRUSHING?
it's not hard
you get a ton of nitra from 5 mini mules
the deep dive from this week is bumming me out bruh
i dunno why but i cant keep the horror agroed to me to keep it away from everyone else
I found it that if you keep stepping into the edge of his range, he'll keep coming for you
okay okay
just outside of the range of the particles
Okay... so what's the BEST way to tackle elite deep dives without a designated team?
Like I can join/host EDD lobbies but swarmageddon is going to erase our HP
I joined a lobby a few days ago and we almost made it to the end of the first stage
but we lost a team mate, and we couldn't handle the damage being done to us, leaving us overwhelmed
I haven't completed a single elite deep dive yet and it's disheartening
you need a competent driller for swarmageddon, that would be the simplest solution to the first stage
...
any primary works, really
if you don't trust teammates in pubs, you can play driller yourself
Yeah I guess my Elim driller was not the right choice for swarmageddon
what is your elimination driller?
Sludge Pump: 13222 | Sludge Blast
CWC: 23221 | Blustering Necrosis
well, you probably shouldn't take sludge blast
Sludge Blast works well on dreadnoughts, and after checking the pinned messages, I focused on that because dead dreadnoughts on haz 5.5 is probably for the better
...Swarmageddon had me realize otherwise
then again I have nothing that can combat that warning
both sides are pretty bad this round
cryo works for both swarmers and dreads
he wont have single target dmg as cryo if he goes solo
...you're insane to believe that cryo works on dreads
actually ice storm maybe
it is, but you need coordination from the team
You're insane to think cryo doesn't work on dreads lmao
...which is probably too much to ask in pubs
Have you never seen the shenanigans done with cryo on dreads?
I dont think he did
Axe spamming into a frozen dread can kill it in one phase if done fast enough
Not really, I've frozen dreads before and watched them get frozen
They're frozen for such a short time that you are either have to be super coordinated to do any reasonable damage to them... or just waste a ton of ammo trying to do "damage" to a dreadnought that a subata bullet does better damage with
if you are going in a team yeah cryo is prob the best out of the 3 weapons
the idea for cryo on elim is for the other people to burst, you are the support there
I'm always in a team, but I'm not trusting a public lobby or myself to successfully freeze a dread to do massive burst damage onto it, you're insane
then dont go driller ig
you can also take sludge pump, but with a normal charged shot I guess
You either burst down with sludge pump and cope about swarmageddon, or go cryo and cover everything 🤷
sludge with fragments is decent yeah
still the same issue when it comes to dreads but at least its ok against swarms
if you take longer puddles, then you could deal with the swarmageddon as well
also at least put some faith in your team, they wont try EDDs if they arent confident in clearing
Are other people getting disconnected in this elite deep dive this week?
It's not even EDD, but moreso just swarmageddon in general
huh
No issues out of the 2 runs i did
even got my ass kicked in a haz 3 swarmageddon with a greenbeard
Remove the sludge blast and go fragments build
💀
you shoot a charged shot and kite the swarmers into the puddle
you can even stand in the puddle if you can afford to
bonus points if it's in a choke point
you can even coordinate with an engie with repellant additive to make a choke so that you have to shoot puddles into just a single space
you could do that for an uplink / refuel
did ya do it?
yeah
sick 💪🏻
what stage did they drop at
i can solo normal DDs most of the time, not this week cause of dumb haunted cave
fortunate timing
they dc'ed after having dealt with the swarmageddon, so that your engi could take care of the dreads solo later
Regular DD was fine. Haunted cave made 2nd a bit spicy
I solod it so its fine. That said Im a Scout so ghost isnt as bad for me
yeah lol, ghost cant even touch a scout
could someone show me or direct me where I can find this week's deep dive info? thank you guys!
pinned messages in this channel
super easy pinned! one reason i joined this server, it was always too hard to find on the reddit page
just had my first encounter with the terror, definitely an interesting experience
terror?
they probably mean the unknown horror
ghost? yeaaaahh thats definitely a thing
we got team wiped by it and luckily i had saved my IW so i used that and a shield to res, then we were able to finish it
I forgot if it was called the unknown horror or the unknown terror
too busy running from it to be fair
understandable, lol
Lol same
I wish it’s speed scaled for the number of players. Like in solo it’s way too fast for 1 person unless you’re scout
at the start of the dive i said it was my first one, we get to the second level and two people in the lobby who have done dives before say that I'm "about to meet casper"
these spitballers on the edd stage 1 are a joke
hey y’all running this weeks deep dive on xbox rn if anyone needs it
do you guys ever think if Overclocks were randomized (like Warframe Mods if you know how those work) then there'll be a market for DRG?
randomized overclocks would kill the game dumbass 😂
did you really just respond to yourself like nobody would notice?
no because I thought about it then realized it was stupid
really looks like a schizo moment ngl
something something warframe riven mafia
your referring to the bad timeline. We live in the world where we buy all this games content by just buying the game
exactly!!!
Just finished my first deep dive a bit ago- dare I say it was- CHAOTIC.
But can finally start getting all those fancy matrix cores and whatnot
You guys solo elite dds?
FUCK this week’s deep dive.
The second mission cave’s generation is complete dogshit and I had an hour of my time wasted by it along with the potential harvest of having pots o gold on a deep dive. Not to mention that I died once because the game just wouldn’t let me deposit an egg in the mule and again to being knocked off a zipline trying to get around the bullshit cave because you move like molasses and it’s a frickin haunted cave mission.
I wasn’t in the mood to have an hour of my time and a ton of potential gold wasted by design errors.
Haunted cave is a pain to be sure
how shit we talking for cave gen bc i wanna do it for the matrix cores
alr
going in as gunner wish me luck
if you have an idea for the game include it in #suggestions , but not this one, this is a bad suggestion
so real
do people in elite deep dives generally kick low levels?
Depends
Usually only if the low level guy does something really stupid.
However, some people put a level requirement in their server name. Make sure to read those before you try and join.
so (not including level requirements in the name) if i join an elite deep dive more often than not i wont get kicked?
Most likely not.
ok thank god because overclock grind is so stupid
i need every tiny bit of a bump i can get 💀
Just follow normal etiquette, communicate and stick with the team.
gotcha thanks man
Good luck!
Aye, it's about mutual respect, if you throw a 1 hour long mission, you've wasted not just your hour, but the hours of 3 other people
and people (esp. working people), don't always have a lot of free time to game
bounced through EDD blind with bosco as sludge blast / persistent plasma driller, pretty easy this week
bulk showing up during second uplink phase was minorly annoying.
Make sure you use ziplines liberally if you go through the dirt wall that already has a hole in it because the path down is awful and you don’t want to have the experience searching for the way back out that I did.
oh dont worry it happened to me too
Second mission?
i tried to zipline away but the damn ghost det kept blowing up
so i just took the long way
damn mule climbs up the ceiling
Yeah that too
I was able to kite it and get back up multiple times but I could not find the goddamn hole with the slow-ass flare recharge.
i just use the terrain scanner
I tried but the picture presented was really screwy and I didn’t have long to study it at a time cause of the stupid ghost
Like I knew the direction the starting chamber was in but could not find the stupid dirt wall to get back
Also it wasn’t showing me the alien eggs for some reason so I couldn’t find another way deeper in to get the rest of the eggs that way. I discovered later that there was a path, it just wasn’t clear at all and I didn’t find it after 20 minutes of searching so that was even more annoying.
that's 1 domain to host
I see you play gunner. One thing I sometimes do with a ghost is zip line up high and pull out my scanner while I’m on the zip that way I’m moving, usually away from where the ghost is rather than just standing there
This EDD was my first and must say it was challenging. Me and my partner did it as driller and scout. Took us 3 tries to get past the first stage and then we were golden
Really stressful, really fun
even with pots of gold, mining gold generally isn't worth it. Like from an actual time spent/reward standpoint. Unless you're actually struggling for credits i guess but even then I would probably still not mine gold and just try to complete missions faster.
And yeah fuck some of these cave generations, I just straight up don't play gunner on any complexity 3 missions.
I have around 220k credits and I still can’t help not mining gold when I see it
Think I have gold fever
idk what level you are but 220k is not a lot. Later on the prestiges become like 100k credits and 2k of each resource type of deal
like it's fine/plenty, and mine gold if you want to
but yeah later on the promotions become stupid expensive
I’ve heard
neuron activation
I’m level 35-40 ish
correction: my friend told me that with pots of gold, mining gold is worth it but also ew boring. ghostship games plz make 1 shot gold ty
you're fine then lmao
But muh gold 😢
I remember we failed a mission once because of pots of gold
Idk I think it’s an addiction to mine
we got a crassus detonator, and since we had pots of gold, we mined it all with pickaxes
the mission was a mining expedition with low O2, and because we spent so much time on the gold, we run out of nitra and died to the swarms eventually
OOF
they never get expensive enough that the cost is greater then the average amount of credits that you get while leveling
Gotta always have 80 nitra in the bag
this is true
One nice thing solo, you can tell Bosco to mine the gold up high from a Crassus while you do more important things
bosco doesn't benefit from pots of gold though
True
i’m too lazy for pots of gold, i just always blow it up with tcf unless the team is really insistent on mining
That’s a good idea.
I’ve almost got scout high enough to promote but for now yeah, I only have gunner
I’ve still got plenty of mods and overclocks I need to buy and the gold usually contributes a significant amount of the money I get for missions, especially with pots o gold, so I usually still go for it. Not always but usually. And the prospect of pots o gold for a whole deep dive was just too good. I got over 10k gold despite failing on the second mission, I could have had so much if I didn’t get hosed.
I’ve probably only seen pots o gold like once, it’s weird
I always see either red rock, skull crusher or sometimes tunnel rat
Dark morkite is nowhere to be seen
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Bro got got by the scam 💀💀💀rip them
ouch
I keep hearing a monster roar before any mining event begins, is it just me? could it be related to the boss getting introduced next season? Rock or stone?
Which mining event are you referring to? If it’s whenever you get an egg, that roar has always been there. If it’s the meteor, that’s just a sound effect, I’d bet
Yeah im referring to the moment before you see the meteor drop i've heard it on the big ones not with the event with many meteors
I hear it too. Always just thought it was the sound of rock scraping against rock
Might be that but to me it sounds like some roar, wish i could record a small clip next time it happens :p
Yeah it’s likely just the sound effect for it falling through the ceiling.
Theres a Sound a while before a meteor thing starts, i figured its meant to be the meteor piece breaking off
The Rockpox is alive, it's not just a virus
Only host can hear the inital roar of the meteor(s)
everyone else only hears the mission control and the sound when mission control says it
but host hears it way before everyone else
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4 hours wasted in co-op deep dive elite runs
so I just went solo like always
1 hour and 12 minutes I'll take it
Why even bother with co-op
guys i just unlocked deep dives the other day and I'm looking for someone to guide me, anyone interested?
Guide? Guide how
It’s basically three regular missions, back to back, with slightly different and mandatory side objectives.
...I just wanted some company...
I’m not denying that you need company, but if you are looking for a group, you might want to look for a group there: #lfg-steam (or any other relevant channel to your gaming platform)
oh ok, didn't know where to look for
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just did a solo normal deep dive
and the hardest part about stage 2 was molly
she gets in the way while you're dealing with 3 big bugs
and she's not much faster than the horror, so you'll need to wait for her
EDD was easier than I was expecting
No drop pod repair on stage 2, that fight with elite threat is terrifying so glad it wasn’t a thing
We even bulked the hiveguard with no casualties
Yeah molly made stage 2 hard. Along with the map gen being narrow
Yeah stage 2 map was weird
You just go through the hole in the bottom, climb the ramp thing and go through a smaller hole right above the bottom hole and rinse repeat to keep away from the ghost, annoying while fighting a dread at the same time
Anyone but me wish there was an option to “lock” Molly in one spot so she wouldn’t try to follow you? Would come in handy in situations like this
When should you start trying deep dives?
Kinda scared of em so far
whenever you want
no reason to be scared
Ive seen some youtube vids, Probably the elite version. But damn that looked hard
you probably saw elite or speedruns
no need to get intimidated
Yeah, the elite deep dive is equivalent to haz 5
but the normal dive is just haz 3
haz 3 isnt that hard. Haz 4 was a big stepup, but feels like most damage absorbed was friendly. Never dared 5..
you're good to go for the regular dive then
agggh the haunted cave + dreadnought is so annoying
lost all of my revives before getting a single egg
i should probably try with a different character next time since engi does not do well with constant movement
there's no clean cut answer to this
but, if you are talking in the context of this week's EDD, I would take cryo, since there are 3 dreadnaughts to be fought
flame thrower does more damage, and combos better with temp shock
also is a hard counter to robotic enemies.
however dreads can't be set on fire, and large enemies in general don't take much fire damage
so it really all depends on what kind of enemies you will face
also cryo cannon + vampirism is pretty nuts
the cryo does offer more crowd control and i prefer it over the flamethrower in deep dives
with a co-ordinated team it can give them the space needed for them to do their thang
eh, sticky flames has more crowd dps, but cryo lets you work in tight spaces safely.
cryo gives you more time in general
oh also, glacial strata enemies take extra fire damage, and magma core enemies take extra cold.
Anyone actually use snowball here
tuned cooler.
you use it as you would a cryo grenade
Hmm alright
Yeah I've seen people say to use cold radiance up close and snowball for far
I take range mod for medium range targets, and run away from anything else.
no they don’t
(to the second point)
magma core grunts are just regular grunts
Idk bout weak but they do resist radiation damage
Weak to C4, just like all bugs 😎
no but they resist radiation, which is mainly fat boy and colette wave cooker
They’re still weak to getting shot in the butt 🤷🏻♂️
alright just finally beat the elite deep dive
what i'll say is the first stage is definitely the problem stage
like holy hell is it a pain
so many mactera, spitball infectors, and swarmagedon means the whole time you're practically swamped with enemies
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That guy in Mission Control. He’s sure got a cozy job
this goes for everyone. If you want to get used to haz 5, just play haz 5 more. If you do nothing but haz 5, you will get better.
Honestly the biggest difference imo between haz 5 and 4 is just how much you get punished for each mistake. Getting hit once here and there on haz 4 is ok, but on haz 5 ya it hurts. So you learn to play more effectively and safely. Also ofc, enemies are tankier but not so much that it makes a huge difference imo. Just need to put a little more work in the killing
Yeah minimizing hits taken is super important in haz 5
You get revived with like one hit levels of hp
It's absolutely miserable to get downed repeatedly because you can't find health
learn to play as if you are always at 1 hp. Not having health around is pretty much the case 99% of the time
no u shudnt be low on hp all the time
if u die and get revived you shud just look for red sugar or resup cus ur health will be super low
and if there isnt any
it’s a deep dive bro
it’s infinite ammo
first stage is mules
that’s 2 free resups on that stage alone
aka hp
you can afford to take hits on haz 5 is what i mean
yes you dont get one shot
just don’t get hit by the big dmg dealers like mactera and spitters
Any tips for elite deep dive?
Don’t do them
be comfortable with at least haz 4 and know how to do each kind of mission type
(would recommend doing haz 5 before though)
Whats the bonus?
I meant whats the bonus to doing an elite deep dive?
3 matrix cores
Man i want dem overclocks tho
Partial rewards are a thing too. you get one core after each stage, same as normal deep dive
my advice, give it one shot. youll get better as you do them, but its not worth doing more than once each week unless you know it was just a bad run
build accordingly, always keep moving, don't multitask/focus on either the objective or killing.
I'm down for a dd or edd if anyone wants to
and of course, simply being used to haz 5 is a good idea.

looks at nexus + opressors that tanks c4s
Hello, are there any must-have/irreplaceable perks on deep dives? Or should I just put in perks depending on my class build and the biome?
my go to: dash(on all class aside scout), IW, sweet tooth, resupplier, born ready(depending on your weapon if it needs long reload or not), veteran depositor (if you know how to cancel animation for depositing)
im talking about elite deep dives btw
Thank you!! Rock and stone!
i would advice also educating yourself with understanding what each perks does and which ones helps in speeding up the missions
Deep dives, esp the elite ones, requires you to be effective in acquiring nitra and completing objectives
that aside 😄 happy deep dives!
You just haven’t tried enough
I solo'd an EDD for the first time. That was fun as hell
Sandblasted Corridors helps a lot but it was spicy
Fucking hell, haunted cave with dreadnought
And with twins, barely survived with the sweat of our brow
Uh huh
6 more hours. I should be doing more assignments but I’ve gotten addicted to DDs now
I find soloing normal DDs pretty easy
Yeah as long as there’s not haunted cave I usually solo them
if you don't die you probably win!
Telling people to take veteran depositor for an edd should be a gd crime.
dash, resupplier, boron ready, iron will, field medic are all great perks
you can use iron will and insta revive more often on edds so it’s a bit more valuable
Boron Ready 
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triple sabotage, let's go
Hello minors
This Elite Deep dive was fun!
I love miners
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Good luck, everyone.
same
Edd 1st 10 aqua 1 blackbox no mutators
Edd 2nd drillzoder 2 mini mules swarmeddegon critical weakness
ugh swarmageddon...
wait why closed
yea it's locked
🤷♂️
Probs cos a lotta activity
They know that we’d lose our shit
I mean you'd expect as much when you release a new trailer
yeah was gonna say this update stuff is fuckin awesome then i saw half the channels locked lol
so like I said I feel like the game is walking in place rather than getting any new content to play over
eh i don't mind them taking 2 seasons to expand one theme each
the weak enemies are a refresher but don't make any new way to play
2 seasons for the rival tech stuff now 2 seasons for the plaguefall
Elite Deep Dive "Blue Thunder" (2023-06-01 to 2023-06-08)
Region: Fungus Bogs
Stage 1: 10 Aquarqs + Black Box
Stage 2: Escort Duty + 2 Mini-mules | Swarmageddon + Critical Weakness
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 2 Mini-mules | Shield Disruption
Deep Dive "Burning Hook" (2023-06-01 to 2023-06-08)
Region: Salt Pits
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + 150 Morkite | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 2: 7 Aquarqs + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + Classic Dreadnought
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What
so 3 new enemies, a new crate, and a bunch more rockpox stuff isn't new content?
What does that even mean
Are you expecting each season to change the gameplay formula or something
lethal enemies in EDD is always pain
A new mission would have been great
EDD seems mild
Crowd enemies don't quite change the way you play
the new crate is comparable to scout's ability, I wonder how they'll balance that. Still doesn't have new stuff to play over.
The seasonal enemy is the best part of the update it seems but it's not enough for me.
It's as if we are gravitating into seasons for the sake of marketing the cosmetic DLCs
that's my 2 cents
you could argue that a new gun doesn't change the way you play then, if you're saying a new enemy doesn't....
yeah your entitled to your opinion, I just don't understand how this much content is 'bad' just cause no new guns or oc
The new guns weren't a huge deal for me but I was fine with it if it meant the following updates would have new content to play over, but they don't
I feel like most of these complaints are just really high level nitpicks that are phrased like they are some critical flaw with the game
And complaining that a free update doesn't include enough new content beyond new enemies and a new in-mission gadget is a nitpick, you can't change that
the game hasn't gotten too much new experiences for me personally. The objective with the boss was theoretically something I'd have digged for but it wasn't too great of a mode (partially due to the enemy robots)
I want new experience and content, and I don't get that, simple
so I don't find a good reason to play the game again
oh you are looking for new biomes and gamemodes then ig?
for example yes
new enemies change gameplay around enough for me
bc the current objective have overplayed themselves
same
they add a new kind of challenge
the seasonal enemy yes, the crowd enemies act more of a refresher on existing stuff
one of the things I loved when starting the game was learning how to kill each enemy. eg: first of all I always died to pretorians, then I learned how to fight them and that was fun. it is exciting to have new enemies to discover how to best kill
they all have relatively clear weakpoints
yeah ik, but learning their attacks and resistances and how long the pretorian vomits for etc
Does anyone know what the deep dive stages are?
yeah nothing crazy on edd except betc in green puddle on 3
Alright, it is updated now 👍
Btw normal deep dive should have been called ''Making an Omellete''
So many eggs
Looking like another fast week…👀
Only thing that could take a bit of time would be the dread i guess
Stage 2 would be the longest. You’re stuck waiting 2 minutes for the drop pod to land
Do we have new deep dives already or do they come tomorrow?
we have them
Oh yeah, true, even with everyone going as fast as they can it would still be gated
Hmm... but knowing the places of all aquarqs would probably make up for it no?
Anyways, it does look like a sub 30 can be easily done
Right, so I think you’re looking at around 4 minutes for that stage. But depending on the layout, this will be another sub-10 minute week for speedrunners
Oh?
Sub 10 on 4p?
Or just 1p bosco?
Since it is a classic... yeah it can probably be lured into a resupply for a 30 seconds or less kill
Probably with some previous knowledge and optimization a sub-10 can be done, and it will be cool to see what people can come up with
Does the electric reload on the GK2 affect the ghost bulk? (at least for the slow component) I know taser bolts on the nishanka work.
I think 4player would be optimal for this dive
Man, is it Easter again? Soooo many eggs
Yep 7 eggs for Egg Mission
Ffs, shield disruption on stage 3 edd
Is the new DD roation live already?
Yes, check the pinned post
Man, a charge sucker at the start of a shield disruption, that's not nice.
Question. On what days do deep dives reset. Also what time
1 pm CEST on thursdays
Thursdays at <t:1686826800:t> your time
My time zone is GMT-4
And?
That uses Unix to display it correctly in your time zone
I didn’t even know about that feature sorry. How do you do the command for that btw?
Also thanks 🙏
This site formats the time code for use on discord https://discordtimestamp.com
Easily generate a Dynamic date-time display for your Discord Messages
But otherwise it’s a string of numbers
Appreciate it mate
still need?
of fucking course we have shield disruption again
how is the cavegen this week?
seems to be quite short
have wave clear in the EDD this week holy hell the swarmers in the escort mission
YEEEEEEEEEESH
We ran two engines,gunner,scout it went pretty well
Lots of nitra tho
so just be smart
seems like I need to bring the autocannon again
Driller probably (fire or cryo)?
No driller
no c4 
this weeks deep dive seems easy... whats the catch?
the normal one? there is no catch its just easy
usually easy things come with a catch... thanks
It’s randomly generated I think, so no, no catch
Wow no warning in edd stage 1... thought it would have a warning each stage
It’s not always the case
are caves in deep dives big this week?
is it normal to get 3 bulks on stage1 dd
because that's what happened and my teammates all got assfucked by it at least once
can i have help with a general build for automated beam controller overclock shard difractor, the main chat is just talking about s4
i currently just have 22222
sorry for the wrong chat
Anything goes, really. I’d build it 32213 for AoE and 21213 for single target
this week feels pretty easy
had our gunner ragequit on the way to the heartstone but we powered through the rest
Hell yeah
Man shield disruption this week in elite...
in fungus bogs
have fun with toxic clouds
i mean its a mining mission so its not that bad, there is a mactera wave so just prep for that
EDD today is easy as heck.
had like 600 nitra at the end of 3rd stage
its not even funny

It sounds funny to have that much nitra
Couldn’t even get past 2… WHAT?
Oh my god
I got a Bet-C + no shields.
it one shotted me.
bet-C hits like a truck
same
but yeah we took it down
we had too much nitra
anyways
nah i just dont like shield disrupt in general
