deep-dive-discussion

[placid musk]

leave a few empty resups for good measure

stage 3 requires the driller to disable the turret controller and then you're all good, play normal PE

eggs are even simpler, just take out whatever comes

ziplines also help a bunch

grab the eggs as soon as possible

so the egg swarm comes early

[brazen pasture]

nah

it's impossible

can't be done

whoever made it is fucking sadistic

[south pier]

do you want a duo/squad?

sounds to me like the typical EDD experience

[placid musk]

last week's ghost - hiveguard - egg combo was even crazier

[rugged portal]

last edd stage 2 isn't that bad tbh

haunted cave but you can loop around

only need some coordination to lure ghost aggro so the other 2 can pull egg

[wheat gull]

Oh I get it. I tried EDD tonight with a few teams of randos. EDD2 really turns to shit in a hurry. 😮

[lusty dew]

If you think stage 2 is bad

[severe tusk]

I haven't tried this week's EDD yet this week, but I almost always am able to do it with random teams on my first try, since I am a greybeard.

[lusty dew]

Just wait till you get to stage 3

I don't think I've ever seen a stage hit the fan so quickly

[wheat gull]

When I first ran the EDD, stage 3 made is sweat, it was a bloodbath lol

[desert lynx]

nemesis in stage 3…

[severe tusk]

I just finished it and my group didn't have a Nemesis.

[hollow shale]

We had a nemesis spawn right at the mining platform with all of us at it during a swarm. It was really ugly.

It was towards the end of the mission as well. Had we completed it quicker we wouldn't have had to deal with it.

[desert lynx]

elite deep dive, not standard

it’s either a swarm spawn during drop pod or in a small corner

[severe tusk]

Yeah I had a random 4 man EDD.

[runic relic]

By the time pod is called Scout should be able to secure it on his own

[severe tusk]

Probably the most annoying thing about the EDD was the rollers in tunnels and other tight spaces.

[placid musk]

i felt that was wayyy easier than this week's XD

[placid musk]

that happened on my first try with a bulk as well, wiped in 15 seconds

we had all used our IWs

resolved to violently nuke nemeses when i see them

hyperprop once i unlock it

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[vapid locust]

This week's was my first deep dive and I'm thankful that my friend and I got out of haunted cave ASAP

[brazen pasture]

sorry, went to sleep last night - am down now

[uneven lichen]

Hey how much money would it take to make my next weapon OC lead storm

I’m desperate

[brazen pasture]

Finally completed it! Thanks to [redacted], Knut [Ger] and Serene Old Man 😄

[wraith shard]

Still wasn’t able to beat this deep dive 🤡

My party got FOUR detonators in a single lvl

The second one (tight af)

[karmic narwhal]

[woeful niche]

i can help rn if u want

[wraith shard]

I’m in class rn

[woeful niche]

where did u get 4 dets?

like what part of the cave in the second stage

[wraith shard]

Second room 💀

[woeful niche]

the room with betc?

[wraith shard]

The room where there’s the hole

With the egg at the bottom

[wraith shard]

Yeah

[woeful niche]

ye, they come in from the back. Having ifgs for that part really helps imo

[wraith shard]

Imma play with a friend or two

[woeful niche]

or any good forms of slow to prevent getting overwhelmed

[wraith shard]

U can join 😉

[wraith shard]

Ifgs?

Wth is that xd

[woeful niche]

default scout grenade

[wraith shard]

Oh

[woeful niche]

it slows and weakens enemies so they take more dmg

[wraith shard]

I got plasma nade, it works fine if I combo it with my turrets

[woeful niche]

driller with sludge pump or sticky fuel also works rly well well

[wraith shard]

My envi is the only one that I promoted

Engi*

[woeful niche]

ye, as long as u don’t let the bugs overwhelm ur position that’s the main thing imo. Cus that room is very small to kite in

[wraith shard]

But sure, driller is cool too

[wraith shard]

The smallest room EVER

The 4 detonators don’t help either lol

Ok sure you got a solid plan

But we can only fight at spawn, that hole is tiny af

[vivid quartz]

My second deep dive, elite attempt. I've just been running with randoms. We made it to room three and oh God, there was so much blood.

Glad to see it wasn't just us

[dense pebble]

Room 3 kicked my butt hard

[vivid quartz]

thought I'd creep out try to assess the situation before jumping off the aaand dead

[dense pebble]

New engie loadout and it wasn’t optimized well

Fortunately my teammates were good

[uneven lichen]

Mission 3 of this week’s EDD is actual PTSD

[dense pebble]

You gotta hack the turret controller quick.

Have a gunner rush it and shield hack it

[uneven lichen]

The problem isn’t exactly the turret controller

It’s the waves upon waves upon waves

[still geode]

waves aren't any worse than normal point extraction though?

[woeful niche]

tbf there are eggs

[wheat gull]

I vaguely recall EDD3 as an unending tide of violence, not unlike Starship Troopers

[stark musk]

any1 down to do Car Pool achievement in an hour?

[rotund jewel]

are deep dives always the same missions? Like i mean i know they refresh but is it picked from a set pool of maps?

[dense pebble]

Newly generated every week

[mental hemlock]

How long do deepdives usually take?

And are they any different than normal missions?

[strange halo]

yes

well kinda

their 3 missions one after the other with no pausing to choose the mission

though you get the uh

i forgot whats it called

[old widget]

Wiki has some good information on the specifics of differences:
https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Deep_Dives

As far as time, figure anywhere from 30 minutes to over an hour to complete all three stages, depending on team competency and mission types.

(Obviously speedrunners can go much faster, but this is a good rule of thumb for average first playthroughs)

[wraith shard]

3 missions, max difficulty, you die once = restart the whole 3 missions again and players can’t join during the middle of the match

Which means: an idiot ragequits = you permanently lose a team mate unless u restart

so in short: they’re A LOT harder and take a lot LONGER to complete

That’s not here bud

[mental hemlock]

What's not here?

[fast stratus]

idk where this "a lot harder" comes from

normal DD is haz 3, 3.5, 3.5

EDD is 4.5, 5, 5.5

longer yes but thats just 3 missions stuck together

[short haven]

Just finished EDD

man

It's not super difficult if you play scout but having a betc on both stage 1 and 2 complicates things a little

and its impossible to revive anyone if there is even a single youngling

[old widget]

salt pits be like

[short haven]

also had a fucking nemesis spawn on stage 3

no idea if thats guaranteed every time or not

cause I had bulks on the second stage last time I tried but not this time

[old widget]

nemmy definitely seems to be in the spawn pool for stage 3, not too surprising since Rival modifier

[uneven lichen]

Yeah I didn’t have a nemesis spawn on stage 3

But holy crap

[short haven]

Ok so its not guaranteed

just can happen

yeah not fun

could you imagine if you needed to cleanse litho on stage 3

would be literal hell

[old widget]

PE litho is pretty painful

[short haven]

just getting around and grabbing aquarqs is tough enough

being quick on ya toes

[coral pond]

Nemmy can spawn either at the start of the mission or anytime if it has rival presence modifier

[coral pond]

@dense sage

[dense sage]

thanks boss

[visual rain]

ay i beat the elite deep dive

[wraith shard]

I do EDDs only bud

[tight willow]

bro called him bud 💀

[wraith shard]

It’s a word that exists

Bud

[tight willow]

didn’t ask?

bud

[wraith shard]

Are you always toxic like that?

Lol I just said the word “bud”

Bro took it personal 💀

[tight willow]

yknow it 🤪

[wraith shard]

The anime pfps are always the most toxic ones I see

🗿

[rose yacht]

i thought you can just let bosco handle betsy.

[wraith shard]

It’s way too weak to kill bet c lol

[rose yacht]

🤣

sad.

[tight willow]

it’s not a anime pfp 😭

[short haven]

I was playing with 3 other people.

did you not read the message I sent literally below that one? lmao

[fast stratus]

even then i hardly see how EDDs are "a lot" harder

.5 haz levels

at worst

[wraith shard]

you havent seen the second lvl of this deep dive

its gonna run out and be replaced anyways

I had 4 detonators

[short haven]

It's never about the haz level

[wraith shard]

call that ez

[short haven]

it's always about the cave gen

[wraith shard]

the map gen

yes

also the fucking detonators spawning

4 isnt normal

[short haven]

I mean those arent guaranteed

just in the spawn pool

but yeah no

bulks are always an annoyance

[still geode]

0.5 haz levels & you have like 300 spare nitra most of the itme

[short haven]

Nitra is actually kind of scarce in this weeks edd because of the map's generation and the fact its a bit hard to get in the middle of swarms

for stage 2 and 3 its best to just grab what you need and gtfo

[still geode]

we had 200 spare at the end and a pretty easy time

[short haven]

maybe after stage 3

theres a lot on that one but in 1 and 2 it can be a bit scarce

[grim wadi]

yeah i swear EDD has extra special cursed gen or throws more at you in general, i play haz 5 most of the time and they for the most part are cozy and chill

[short haven]

anyone can do well on high haz levels as long as they can move around plenty and know what enemies to prioritize

the issue is when you have no room to move

[grim wadi]

and thats why i love driller so damn much

[short haven]

in my time playing driller

yeah

he's surprisingly good for surviving massive swarms

[severe tusk]

Bulks are really only bad if they spawn and trap you or if you are having to defend an area. Even then, you can usually deal with them. I actually like seeing bulks spawn because you can use them to kill other enemies when they blow up. You can even one-shot dreads during their vulnerable phases by detonating a bulk which is near them.

[rugged portal]

btw you can pheromone bulk and ghost

[lone island]

and neurotoxin I think

[short haven]

they may not be the worst thing to kill, no, but they're usually more of an annoyance than anything

however stage 2 of edd is like, the worst kind of cave to get a bulk

very small cave

[iron prawn]

whats the Edd currently

[short haven]

check pinned

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[iron prawn]

should be fast

[grim wadi]

uh oh

the bots have arrived

<@&296918282403840000>

[late spire]

Bleugh, that last level of the EDD was a pain.

Constant waves.

But hey, an hour fifteen later, and I've got my first solo flawless EDD.

Like, got the first 2 in about 20 minutes, and then nearly an hour on that last stage. Had a wave spawn almost as soon as I landed, and from there is just dragged.

[sweet wagon]

Anyone want to do EDD?

Would love some people that have at least a slight idea on what to do

[wheat gull]

Goddamn it feels impossible to carry EDD as a scout. I just don't have the firepower to deal with swarms.

[short haven]

It's harder to do it on the first 2 stages, namely the second, but third stage is pretty easy to carry as long as you can just keep moving

what I ended up doing was just ignoring my downed teammates if its too dangerous to revive, and just got the hell out of there asap

with point extract on high haz levels its damn near impossible to do anything without going down if you don't have good movement, and the cave kinda sucks for anyone who isnt scout

[gusty echo]

so what i'm hearing is this is another common scout W?

[short haven]

if you can power through the first two stages yeah

[gusty echo]

yeah me and the lads already beat it, i'm just pissing around.

well, MY lads

[short haven]

there's bathrooms for a reason

[gusty echo]

lol

[short haven]

[severe tusk]

Impact Deflection DRAK with IFGs handles swarms pretty well. Then I use Embedded Detonators Zhukovs for bigger stuff.

[rose yacht]

aggreesive venting

also pheromones.

[dense sage]

anyone have time for a quick DD so i don't have to solo

[short haven]

If you mean the normal one sure

[mossy patio]

Wow that 3rd elite wrecked me

[visual rain]

im kinda excited for the next elite deep dive

usually when i lose at a mission i dont get to go back and try it again that much

[quartz prairie]

Hey, anyone wanna join 3 friends for the elite deep dive? Spanish voice chat preferred

[marble mango]

I dont talk in vc but hit me up

[quartz prairie]

Sorry, we already failed, will try tomorrow 😅

[marble mango]

xD we'll get em next time.

[marble mango]

update: finally made the EDD run! I can sleep well now

[nova hearth]

gg joan

[pine pumice]

anything to look out for in this weeks edd?

[dense sage]

there was 1 room in section 1 with a breeder, 2-3 spitballers, and mobs right near the hiveguard

[worthy bolt]

ok whats the first stage of the EDD

[dense sage]

check the pinned message

[worthy bolt]

thats the old deep dives brah

you know what

im gonna see it for myself

[pine pumice]

oh they just updated

[marble mango]

gg man, thanks for the pointers

[split anchor]

manifesting no low o2 deep dive this week

[split anchor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/12sryjn/weekly_deep_dives_thread_20th_april_2023/

it is going to reset soon

[worthy bolt]

oh i thought it changed

fuck

[split anchor]

it will in roughly 2hrs

it changes every thursday

hence why the Deep Dives for the 27th is blank

[worthy bolt]

this is the reason why the bot needs some upgrades or just a fix for the deep dives notif

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[split anchor]

there's your cue

Deep Dives will change in an hour

[worthy bolt]

im gonna use my overpowered stubby elec build + LWC breach cutter full ammo and mag size

(dont know about the grenade tho)

[split anchor]

shredder swarm?

[worthy bolt]

(plasma burster is okay and SSG is just as good as plasma burster but against all targets)

@split anchor i kinda like instantly killing a swarm with plasma grenades but the SSG? eh just a push of a button and the swarm will dissapear in no time

[split anchor]

oop

[worthy bolt]

still tryna get the ECR tho

that way i could just use my brain and kill the shockers and swarmers myself

[split anchor]

I got the electric arc but not the EM discharge oc

[pliant yoke]

a sad occurrence indeed

[sly kettle]

Soon™

[dense sage]

isn’t there still some time before they swap over?
or is it different for some people?

[supple crest]

no

everyone gets the update at the same time

in like 23 minutes

[dense sage]

yeah i thought so
imagine askin’ about stuff people haven’t seen yet

[pine pumice]

i had no idea

[quiet mortar]

Greetings fellow Dwarves!

So I've been doing the Deep Dives post for around 2 years now and a lot's changed since I started lol
But I'm looking to get a new job and keeping mid-day clear every Thursday can be hard lmao

So yeah, I'm letting memtransmute take over

You've all been awesome while I've been doing this, thank you all so much you rock

[sly kettle]

Good continuations!

Thanks for your hard work.

And it's time. Good luck, everyone.

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[candid bobcat]

edd codename "low risk" lol

[sly kettle]

I saw that

Brilliant.

Starts with an Azure Weald Point Extraction

[low plover]

^ Karl's review

[supple crest]

elite deep dive 1st stage 7 aquarq 1 dreadnought exploder infestation

[slate river]

Torture

[split anchor]

oh my ffs

[low plover]

Cryo scout goes zoom zoom

[split anchor]

okay I jinxed myself I'll drink a blackout stout

[split anchor]

this aged badly

[vapid locust]

oof

[split anchor]

yep imma drink some blackout stout to atone for jinxing

[vapid locust]

Haunted caves last week into low O2 this week? Mission Control really has it out for us

[slate river]

I would prefer haunted cave over low O2

[split anchor]

what have we done to deserve dis DRG

[novel breach]

EDD stage 1: 7 aquarqs + twin dreadnought

[supple crest]

edd 2nd stage 4 egg blackbox shield distruption volatiale guts

[candid bobcat]

Elite Deep Dive (2023-04-27 to 2023-05-04)
Codename: Low Risk
Region: Azure Weald
Stage 1: 7 Aquarqs + Twins | Exploder Infestation
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + Black Box | Shield Disruption + Volatile Guts
Stage 3: Refinery + 2 Eggs

Deep Dive (2023-04-27 to 2023-05-04)
Codename: Shattered Thickening
Region: Salt Pits
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + 150 Morkite | Low O2
Stage 2: Escort Duty + 2 Mini-mules | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 3 Mini-mules + 2 Eggs | Rich Atmosphere

Seed: {"Seed":1027977599,"SeedV2":1745495795,"ExpirationTime":"2023-05-04T11:00:00Z"}

[split anchor]

oookay that was actually quick

also oh shit mactera plague

[low plover]

S p e e d

[pliant yoke]

Cool, cheers! I wonder how’s the cave in EDD1

[civic zinc]

do you need to restart your game to get it refreshed

[candid bobcat]

you may have to yes

[runic relic]

Kinda looks like ass but edd stage 3 seems ok

[split anchor]

stage 2 of both dives is concerning to me

I don't think I can solo dis

[hazy scarab]

tyyyyy shield disruption + vg looks awful

[worthy bolt]

hey at least you probably use driller vamp build or scout to just run away

[low plover]

By looking at EDD I can say cryo Scout or vampire Driller will do a thing here

[supple crest]

3rd is worse terrain is awfulk

bring a driller

and engi

[gusty grotto]

EDD stage 3 has annoying cave gen for refinery

the refinery is somewhat in the air with 2 of the pipes needing a platform to attach to

[late karma]

What’s todays deep dive?

[rugged portal]

muffin busy this week again?

[zenith ember]

scroll up

[steel python]

EDD
"Low Risk"
Shield Disruption + Volatile Guts
Very low risk indeed

[wheat gull]

Welp I'm screwed. I go heavy on the pickaxe. XD

[steel python]

Vampire time

I think I'll just go to the regular deep dive today

[steel python]

Sorry for the ping, but this hasn't been pinned yet

[bleak charm]

Well fuck

Ice to mactera plague shrimple as that

[runic relic]

Vampire driller for shield disruption vg

[scarlet ravine]

Mission Control must be drunk with that refinery drop in EDD stage 3

took a ton of platforms to make the pipes all nice

[steel python]

EDD is driller skill check lol

[zenith ember]

I dont see an issue with the pipes?...

all of them are drillable over

[rugged portal]

yeah the thing is you need a driller on your team

or it take shitload of time

[zenith ember]

oh you mean in the context of solo

the refinery position does suck tho

somewhat floating on a piece of rock

[steel python]

I suppose the challenge would be going driller solo

[turbid dawn]

@quiet mortar hope everything is well with you

[arctic wasp]

I’d like to join anyone’s deep dive

[grim wadi]

boooooooooo shield disruption

[eager flame]

I won't be updating the pinned message anymore, as work and university are starting to take a toll on me. Sorry for the incovenience and thank you for all the support and appreciation up until now, wish you good luck on your deep dives from here on out.
If you need to see the current deep dives, look for the messages pinned above and below this one, it is a google doc that is updated daily with the current deep dive information

Rock and stone my brothers

Special Thanks to:

• Formatting template made by @quiet mortar, please show all your love to them, as they are the one who originally started this idea. ❤️
• For providing us with the DD-Info-Formatter on their github, @candid bobcat deserves some love as well, go check out their Youtube and Twitch!
• UnixTimeStamp template suggested by @dense sage 🕓
• And finally, each and every one of you that were here throughout this whole journey, thank you for everything.

[grim wadi]

Escort Duty + 2 Mini-Mules | Mactera Plague
this on DD haz 5 edition is gonna be fucking pain uuuuggggghhhhhh

[eager flame]

It hurts me just to think about it

[still geode]

black box with shield disruption and volatile guts sounds incredible

[pliant yoke]

Just take Snowball, Cryo or Phero nades. Fat Boy will probably do as well

[grim wadi]

yeah true, sludge blast OC works well too but that ammo hit sucks

might try snowball again

[still geode]

hellfire deals with mactera very well too

[eager flame]

Thank god the salvage objectives are only partial, and not the whole salvage mission

[grim wadi]

true

[pliant yoke]

This EDD looks a little better than the last week’s. I was unable to complete stage 3 - we made too many mistakes and fell into the loop of constantly being downed and revived, with no progress on objective whatsoever

[eager flame]

Stage 3 EDD of last week was a beast on its own

[still geode]

i can imagine it being quite rough without a plan

[eager flame]

Rival presence h5.5 PE with a giant welcome party

[rotund terrace]

How hard is the stage 2 in elite dd 💀

[pliant yoke]

Suffice it to say, I was basically forced to snipe Sniper Turrets with my non-single shot specced EPC as Driller

[still geode]

having a driller immediately head over to the turret controller and deal with it from below + hyperpropping every single patrol bot dealt with it pretty well

[pliant yoke]

Despite Gunner and Scout having better tools for the job

[pliant yoke]

I probably could’ve done that

Not that it matters anymore

[eager flame]

The problem i had was that every lobby i joined people kept rushing out of the pod on stage 3 and getting instakilled on the worst position possible

[pliant yoke]

We also got a random Nemesis spawn, and it wouldn’t be such a big deal had we had a single situation for recovery

[still geode]

whenever i see robots in an EDD i make sure someone in the team is bringing hyperprop along

[plain mortar]

As I driller main I take it personally every time I see a turret controller, makes life so much easier for everybody

[worthy bolt]

my deep dive solo class : engineer (WHY IS DORETTA SCREAMING)
my elite deep dive solo class : warcriminal (MMMMMM ICE STORM)

probably gonna take sludge pump with full projectile speed + ag mixture and embedded detonators

wait shit rival presence

[elfin mural]

OH GOD

[grim wadi]

sludge does decent against robots, they have weakness to it

[pliant yoke]

There is no Rival Presence on this week’s DDs

[grim wadi]

also yeah this

[pliant yoke]

Reference: #deep-dive-discussion message

[grim wadi]

oh yeah we need dem pin updates

could a <@&296918282403840000> kindly pin #deep-dive-discussion message
that would be very rock and stone of you, seems muffin cat is still down for the count

[pliant yoke]

What does it take to have Muffin’s yellow role for pinning messages, anyway?

[worthy bolt]

wait nvm

LOL

very well

[burnt sandal]

the regular role doesn't give the power of pinning messages or being more likely to have your messages pinned

[grim wadi]

curious myself, dat sausages roll

[brazen pasture]

damn stage 2 of EDD is crazy

[grim wadi]

i guess with no shield, volotile guts is gonna pin prick you to death

[grim wadi]

thanks <3

[eager flame]

She just has one pinned message that she edits every time it changes

Instead of pinning a new one

[burnt sandal]

she*

[pliant yoke]

Hm, so it’s not specific to their role, then

Well, that doesn’t answer my question thoroughly

What’s this role?

[eager flame]

Sorry, i default to male pronouns on the internet

[burnt sandal]

no worries, but you could use "they" instead if you don't know the pronouns

[burnt sandal]

the regular role ?

It's sometimes given to people who are active, helpful and stay out of trouble.

[brisk spear]

mod pet

[pliant yoke]

Got it. Thank you

[eager flame]

How does that work? I'm not that great with english, is ''they'' usable even when not in plural?

[brisk spear]

yes

[burnt sandal]

yeah, it's used as a neutral pronoun

[eager flame]

Hmm...

[serene fjord]

Also used for some of the "new genders" (not really sure what's the correct way to label these, don't kill me), aka not "male" or "female"

[quiet mortar]

Yeah, I only got the role after like 5 months doing it and only cause a massive community figure put a word in for me lmao

[pliant yoke]

Well earned still, methinks

[eager flame]

[worthy bolt]

first stage and the second stage of EDD was hell

dont know about the third one

[zenith ember]

definitely easier without a fat boy engi nuking your team i hope.

[vale knot]

"Low Risk" my ass, there are exploders and no shields in this edd

[split anchor]

me rn: I should probably skip dis week, looks very hard

[vale knot]

me every week:

my last edd was fucked due to a bulk spawning at the worst time

[obsidian lynx]

can someone remind me of the current deep dive names? I have entirely forgotten and I need to know

[eager flame]

I enjoy seeing the look of terror in the glyphids eyes as i one shot a bulk detonator with 2 leadbursts to its feet

[eager flame]

Shattered Thickening and Low Risk

Or do you mean something else?

[obsidian lynx]

Thank you

[split anchor]

DRG screws me over by sending me a lot of prae and oppressors

[brisk spear]

erm actually thats more than 2 shots 🤓☝️

[split anchor]

dis is why I wan use gunner on every damned deep dive

[eager flame]

Ermm, Akshually, the tactical leadburster shoots 3 bursts of 16 volleys containing 12 bullets each, making it a 576 shot ☝️ 🤓

[worthy bolt]

EDD mission time : 58 mins

gaming

worth it

minimal clips

here we go

[rugged portal]

stage 3 is fun as hell

edd

[wraith shard]

azure weald my beloved

[placid musk]

is stage 2 really hard?

the cave gen annoying?

for edd

[zenith ember]

Black box is in a kinda bad position

But prob not too bad

[trail topaz]

Our crew arrive at EED stage 3 said it should be easy thanks to all of the lootbugs

Let just said we spoke too soon

[placid musk]

i did get overdrive booster from the dd

and blisters from the core hunt

if edd gives me ntp i am going to buy the supporter upgrade

[trail topaz]

That floating minehead costed us the run lol

[rugged portal]

our engi did their job so it was pretty nice

[exotic mirage]

So, why can't we rejoin deep dives? I crashed and was unable to rejoin, and its really a bummer since I helped my team through the first mission, second started, and then crashed and cant rejoin.

Is there ANY way to fix the anti conneciton thing that deep dives have?

[old widget]

Not that it's much consolation, but the problem isn't just with deep dives, it's DRG netcode in general. Sometimes it just doesn't let you reconnect, dive or not. It's entirely possible to rejoin deep dives...I'd honestly say it has about the same rate of success as rejoining normal missions.

[woeful niche]

it def feels alot lower to me

if they moved on to a new stage, it’s pretty much always impossible

[old widget]

that I agree with, if the host moves on to a new stage you can forget it. usually not being able to make it back before that happens is because of the fundamental reconnect problem as a whole, tho

in terms of a way to fix, pleasefix.gg is the official mechanism we have to raise up stuff like this, so go there and file a bug (or add to an existing bug, since there's probably one already)

[old siren]

Yet another deep dive ruined by "Error Lost Connection"

https://tenor.com/view/greatness-close-rogue-one-gif-13529044

This last crash really sapped my serotonin boost from the Thursday reset-- time for some No Man's Sky until I feel like digging again

Its not a bad EDD at all, just make sure your Engie pays attention if your driller clearly drilled a tunnel. Pancakes don't solve everything

[strange halo]

i beaten this week's EDD with only 4 engies xd

[mossy patio]

The first cave of the normal deep dive looked sick

[jagged rapids]

From what I've experienced and seen around, it's about crashing vs DC.

If you DC back to lobby, you can rejoin bc the game session remembers that you were just in that mission.

If you crash and the game closes, it doesn't retain that info on relaunch and you can't rejoin. As far as it's concerned, you just started the game rather than having been already actively in a session.

So far I've never had an issue rejoining if the game didn't actually crash.

[old widget]

FWIW, I’ve crashed and rejoined a dive. Two dives ago, game crashed to desktop. Restarted game, got the rejoin prompt, said yes, all good.

But it’s certainly possible that your chances go up if you simply DC

[visual rain]

not a big fan of this EDD

beat it first try at least

[grim wadi]

EDD was pretty easy this run for us, this strat made stage 2 blackbox a snore https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/529674786620571658/1101280162777141399/Deep_Rock_Galactic_replay_2023.04.27-21.28_004.mp4

3rd stage cave gen was uh, interesting, def want a driller or engie

[woeful garden]

what are u guys's toughts about the DD? i didn't played it yet. anything sus?

[grim wadi]

actually 1 pipe was potentially unbuildable softlock without the engie to make platforms, was over open air, thankfully doesnt seem to always spawn there

[plush basin]

how are the two dives this week?

[dusky mauve]

EDD3 has awkward cave layout but you get a massive amount of nitra throughout the 3 missions this week (just taking what you encounter on a direct path to objectives)

regular DD is just somewhat long that's about it

[dawn oxide]

The low oxygen map was pain.

[desert lynx]

how's the edd this week?

any events?

[jagged rapids]

Deep dives don't have events

But it's pretty easy and mellow tbh. Stage 2 is rough if you forget it's no shield and volatile guts

[desert lynx]

I mean random gen like bet - c and nemesis

[jagged rapids]

Just finished with a lvl 17, 82 and 118 (I'm 431). Was beyond chill for me and the rest of the team did great, they had a few downs on stage 2 tho but it was ok

We got sub 45 min completion no problem

[desert lynx]

question remains unanswered

[jagged rapids]

Ah, nope. Not in our run at least

[desert lynx]

damn

[jagged rapids]

Not even a bulk

I would definitely recommend. Should be an easy one. Everything was easy to find on every stage. Refinery was super easy on stage 3

That was our fastest stage actually. Less than 10 mins there which had me very proud of the youngins in my squad

[unkempt dew]

Ref has very controllable swarms

If you handle generation right, ref is free

Especially with the nitra glut

[jagged rapids]

Oh it was free indeed. All the morkite wells were close or easy to get to

[grim wadi]

none for us either

[lone monolith]

...teammate aborted deep dive after 2 missions, so we got nothing for it

what kind of dumb fucking shit is that

[serene fjord]

So long as the missions were completed, you got the rewards, only annoying part is if you want that 3rd mission reward for the cosmetic, you'll have to run through the first ones again

[visual rain]

yeah but u dont get the tons of xp

[jagged rapids]

Wow this week is great for getting the sub 45 achievement on both dives. Neither is very hard.

DD has an INSANE level of nitra by the time you hit stage 3. We had 1 resup stage 1, 3 resups stage 2 and 7 resups stage 3. Finished at 48 mins but we were moving slow on stage 1, think scout was just waking up 😅

EDD was pretty easy as well. Stage 2 can get you if you're not paying attention to the shield disruption+volatile combo but I was cryo driller so it was mellow. Stage 3 is super easy room with eggs and morkite wells all close to refinery. Finished in 43 mins. Didn't have as many resups as the DD but it was still very nitra generous by stage 3

[north hearth]

stage 2 of the EDD was a troll with that dirt wall placement lmao

[jagged rapids]

Lol the one to exit the start cave?

Yea

I fell

[north hearth]

first attempt i was driller and i fell to my death lmao

[jagged rapids]

Lol I almost died. Caught myself halfway down on the wall then fell again. Luckily the spitballer had crap aim so I froze him shortly after landing

I had like zero health tho. He almost got me

[grim wadi]

hah yeah same, even at the end when i was waiting for molly to get to drop pod i was like "oooo gold" and fell again xD

[jagged rapids]

🤣 my death actually came shortly after I thought I was good. Got leeched but I would've rather gone down from gold greed. An honorable death 🫡

[grim wadi]

hahaha xD

[snow hearth]

Deep Dives solo? possibility?

I doubt but still asking

[severe tusk]

Yes. People speed run it solo.

[burnt sandal]

yeah, very possible

[snow hearth]

k thx

[burnt sandal]

speedrunning it or not

[hushed sequoia]

probably easier solo in most cases due to scaling if you know what you're doing

though i believe duo scaling is exactly the same or close to solo

[warped veldt]

i find that 4 player tends to be the easiest since there are so many good aoe weapons

so you can usually have 1 or 2 people doing the majority of crowd control while other people can focus objectives with hardly any bugs

[severe tusk]

Once you're experienced, you are able to multitask and fight and do objectives at the same time.

[empty shore]

I like the name of the DDE

[quartz jolt]

Did the elite deep dive first try

I had the most deaths as engineer but I had a great time, so we rocked it

[severe tusk]

Next week's EDD will be called "Cake Walk."

[dense sage]

“Free Lunch”

[eager flame]

''Glyphid Sandwich''

[visual rain]

is there one for edd as well? i got the dd one last week

[jagged rapids]

No it's just the one achievement. It actually doesn't matter whether you get it in the deep dive or elite dive. So you're all set

That being said, still feels nice plus I like to go for it whenever I can in case anyone in the lobby doesn't have it. Never know how harsh the dive next week will be

[dense sage]

What driller build do ya run? I’ve got tuned cooler and blistering necrosis atm, still not quite set on the upgrades

[onyx badger]

the elite deep dive this week is hell

[jagged rapids]

All cryo and temp shock. I definitely wouldn't say it's a god tier build but it works for me. I can quick freeze most things so cryo gun is decently ammo efficient. Wavecooker can deal with low health enemies on its own but can easily temp shock a swarm of frozen glyphids. This build is good enough for me to take into a dreadnaught mission bc of the quick freeze + axes.

Does well on solo haz5 but really shines as support driller in a squad by rendering everything near you and your team a non-threat (I especially love this for exploder infestation, swarmagedeon or a hold the point mission)

Cryo: 31122 + thermal efficiency OC
Wavecooker: 21213 + diffusion ray OC
Pickaxe: 13
C4: 2111
Grenade: axes
Armor: 1212
Perks: insulation , vamp, thorns + iron, dash

Tbh the perks part doesn't matter aside from vamp and dash in my build. Usually too lazy to change em tho

Had 1 down with this build in the EDD and it was a sneaky leech when I fell into a new cave and was distracted with a swarm and spitballer

[dense sage]

I’ll keep it in mind
Still quite a greenbeard without a varied stockpile of OCs

I do have ice spear to pair with necrosis, but that’s way more ST

[burnt sandal]

to be fair, temp shocking frozen enemies is kind of a waste because you're losing the x3 damage multiplier

[jagged rapids]

Not really, most things below prateorian die immediately. Anything else you need to damage first before temp shock (this is where my axes and drills come in).

I play very up close and personal as cryo driller.

The only things this isn't great for in me experience on haz5 is spitballer/brood and oppressor bc it's 2-3 axes

[burnt sandal]

most thing below praetorian would die instantly to most things, it's hardly anything to gauge it with.
You'd deal faster with big enemies by shooting them with the EPC when frozen

ranging between 60-75 damage, and up to 120 damage per shot (if you run heavy hitter).

[jagged rapids]

mate, they asked my build. I just gave it. I even said it "not God tier but works for me"

I don't min max tbh

But I only play haz5 so I can confirm it works there. I know there's better builds for sure tho

[burnt sandal]

There's nothing wrong with your build, I'm just giving another point of view. That's what discussions are about.

[jagged rapids]

Fair enough. And tbh, I didn't like cryo until this build

Was hardcore sludge ( I still love me some goo but we're branching out bc I like to keep exploring)

[burnt sandal]

Well if you enjoy it that way, all the power to you !

[dense sage]

I still have many facets to learn FPS has never been my strong suit

[jagged rapids]

Still can't justify taking ice spears on anything yet. Too ammo hungry but this build... She just rolls on all efficiency for me.

I'll give epc a try with it tho. Haven't tried that since my little journey to learn epc mining. Once I got that ..I kinda tossed it aside again

[dense sage]

I love my big damage numbers at heart, but as long as I can get skilled and comfy, I’ll be happy

[jagged rapids]

Lol can't say I'm aimbot level... In fact... Don't ask me to take mk1.... It'll only lead to embarrassment (can I use the "I'm on console" excuse? 😅)

[dense sage]

I use xbox controller on PC 🤝
Not enough room for full mouse mobility, and I kinda just like the vibe more

[jagged rapids]

I'll still give your's a go tho. I have a secondary build for every primary oC build I set. Just never found a good one for cryo epc that isn't just temp shock or flying nightmare

Any suggestions?

[jagged rapids]

Just keep playing with stuff. I force myself to use my never touched or least used weapon / OC at least 1-2 months every season. Least season I got all buddy buddy with GK2 (perfect timing since the buffs came this season so I was ready) and warthog. This season I'm revisiting thunderhead and cryo

[burnt sandal]

Flying nightmare is pretty good but Heavy Hitter with the damage mod will do good work on big enemies. 120 damage per shot on a frozen enemy is nothing to scoff at. 👌

[jagged rapids]

Alrighty, I'll start playing around with that. Thank you 🤌🏿

[burnt sandal]

You can even go with normal shots and Burning Nightmare for a temp shock EPC build too

the option's there

at least it's less RNG based

[jagged rapids]

Oh I forgot it's burning nightmare now.

[burnt sandal]

yeah that got quite the nice upgrade

[jagged rapids]

I clearly haven't touched it all season 😅

[burnt sandal]

apparently flying nightmare one shots frozen praetorian on haz 5

so there's that on the power level scale

[jagged rapids]

Went hard on ripper and boomerang grenades this season. Forgot to check out some of the other buffs

[tacit jungle]

how's the spice level for this week's EDD?

[jagged rapids]

Ohhhh, I could def use that if it slaps just as hard in oppressor. That's where this build starts to feel meh. Freezing them and Dreads is bleh.

[jagged rapids]

Looooooow

Just pay attention on stage 2 bc no shield and volatile guts

[tacit jungle]

oh no 😦 game needs a back catalog of greatest hits

[jagged rapids]

Nah it's still fun. Nitra heavy EDD so you can just ball out by stage 3. We had a rank 17, rank 88 and rank 112 + me (rank 431). Only had a close call at the beginning of 2 because we all feel thru the same dang hole and bodied

Once one of us got back up, we were pretty alright tho the youngins went down a few times bc of no shield+volatile but beyond that stage they only had 2-3 downs across all of em the whole dive

[tall meadow]

Like the usual EDD, watch your steps , you’ll be fine

[jagged rapids]

#playstation message

Screenshot of the amazing Greenbeards I ran with. Very proud of how they played

[jagged rapids]

Lol...I was the one who driller who lead us into the pit.. got cocky and wasn't fully paying attention (aka I didn't look at the map at all 😅)

I regret nothing. Cost me a no death run but I'll take 1 down. Close enough

Actually good screenshot to show this build is not a kill count leader. Definitely support but it keeps the team safe (mostly... Except when they leave me 😅)

[rose yacht]

that happened to me 3x while drilling yo drop pod.

while digging to drop pod a big ass room and pitfall was waiting for me.

[jagged rapids]

Oh I remembered on my way back. Was not going for a second down 🤣 fool me once, screw you. Fool me twice... Well... Fair enough

[rose yacht]

some map be trolling driller.

i expected a straight dig.

[tall meadow]

Wait wrong image

Smh

Where did I put the latest EDD image

[jagged rapids]

Wait... How can you post images in here? This is one of the channels I can't for some reason

[tall meadow]

Embed

[jagged rapids]

Button is just straight greyed out for me

[wraith shard]

edd kinda easy this week?

homophobic amount of spitballers tho :/

[warped veldt]

theres like 5 of them

[jagged rapids]

Only recall 2 tbh

[wraith shard]

it might be rng based

[warped veldt]

maybe it changes based on player count

[wraith shard]

i played 2 attempts

[warped veldt]

im pretty sure betc does

[wraith shard]

first attempt had like 2 in stage two

second attempt had like 4 and two brood nexii in stage 2

and then also like 2 or 3 in stage 3 right next to LZ

[jagged rapids]

We had 4 dwarves but memory might be fuzzy. I remember one in particular tbh but aside from that, maybe my team dealt with ones I didn't see

Overall tho, no not very hard

I'd call it easy

In fact, I actually just summarized above:
#deep-dive-discussion message

[wraith shard]

shield dis and volatile hit like a BD up the ass tho

[jagged rapids]

#playstation message

Yea but you just gotta keep your distance. My only down the whole run was a leech while I was distracted but that combo did get some of the others in my lobby tbh (play with randoms, no mic)

[wraith shard]

oh yeah are leech locations random too?

[jagged rapids]

Once I showed them where we should post up for swarms we were fine plus had enough for like 2 -4 resupplies

[wraith shard]

cause i could've sworn they moved between my attempts

[tall meadow]

Did you have the same amount of dwarves

[jagged rapids]

Stuff is usually somewhat consistent but there will be small variations between runs

[wraith shard]

im pretty sure we did yes

[tall meadow]

The only way there is a difference is by the amount of players which started together.

[jagged rapids]

Main difference is actually just steam vs console seed

[tall meadow]

Leech locations are also in place.

[wraith shard]

huh good to know

[jagged rapids]

Yea I think stationary enemies mostly stay the same since they're part of the map

[wraith shard]

that would make sense ye

[jagged rapids]

🤙🏿

[tall meadow]

And yes Console and Steam seeds are different

[jagged rapids]

Yea we have hardware restrictions 😓

[rose yacht]

when u see acid spitters, expect there would be leeches.

i always see those pair in tandem.

[jagged rapids]

These are completely unrelated and not even part of the same enemy group type actually

[tall meadow]

Those two don’t exactly correlate , but if that keeps you looking up in the ceiling , keep doing that anyways

[rose yacht]

welp, its the funny room.

[jagged rapids]

Acid spitters are disruptive type and leeches are stationary type

They take up different spots in enemy swarm

[rose yacht]

i see neocite breeder more annoying than leeches tbh.

those tiny flying crap.

waste of ammo reeeee.

[jagged rapids]

Highly recommend watching this to get a better idea of enemy pools:
https://youtu.be/tLiX_GJRdWw

[jagged rapids]

My Duuuuude. YES

Which is why glacial strata nd dense Biozone can be annoying depending on how heavily the mission leans into the native nedocytes.

Unless I'm driller .. In which case, catch these hands

[rose yacht]

they are primarily the reason why i bring cryo bolts.

3 shots and they are dooown.

[jagged rapids]

Oh I just boomerang and slap the rest 😅

Or the most unnecessary C4 if I'm feeling silly and have the ammo

[rose yacht]

i have aggreessive venting due to my hatred of swarmers and small but fast bugs.

the fear really gives u dat space.

[jagged rapids]

Or gunner with anything AoE or magic bullets

[rose yacht]

magic bullet feels sad dps wise.

but at least u dont miss.

😂

[tall meadow]

not meant to be main dps anyways

[jagged rapids]

Tbh it does well enough. It's not a fast killer for sure but that's a given. It applies DoT. Isn't really mean to be high DPS

[tall meadow]

meant to help gunner aoe

[rose yacht]

oh wait i meant bullet hell

[jagged rapids]

This

[rose yacht]

i misread it.

magic bullets are actually good.

[jagged rapids]

Oh....I dislike bullet hell too tbh. It's definitely disappointing

Tried it for 2 weeks and was like "nah, not the one"

[rose yacht]

its surprisingly good in mactera swarm with the stun mod.

but yeah it sucks ammo wise.

good at covering fire.

[jagged rapids]

Oh I could see that. Tbh mactera swarm gunner for me is burning hell, extra damage (forgetting the OC name) , neuroticxin ooooor I just toss a lead buster

[rose yacht]

i ended up using lead lead storm.

[jagged rapids]

... But I much prefer pyscho driller meeting c4 into a big ole group of mactera. Just good war crime vibes

[rose yacht]

minigun feels trashy without it.

[jagged rapids]

Can't recommend in terms of ammo efficiency tho lol

[rose yacht]

i only c4 if i got shield.

gunner is friend.

he wont die like scout.

[jagged rapids]

Burning hell is fun and great for swarmagedeon. Somewhat decent for mactera plague bc they're weak to fire but it ain't a superstar there tbh. But it'll get ya thru it

[rose yacht]

😂

[jagged rapids]

Lol c4 is a hefty part of all of my driller builds. I yeet that thing like crazy but ya learn to know where everyone is. I rarely end up c4ing teammates. I think I have less than 20 FF kills in the last 2 years with it

But I practiced my Olympic yeets and avoiding team kills.. Didn't wanna be that driller

Every now and then tho...scout and I mentally sync up in the wrong way and accidents happen 🤣

They're just so fast lol

[void stump]

I don't c4 scouts, I TCF scouts

[jagged rapids]

🧠

[void stump]

Like what happened to a random ME game a couple days back

A scout was stuck with a few grunts while standing on a wall and I decided to get him outta pickle with TCF, only to down him

[rose yacht]

scout is a magnet to anything explosive.

i mistakenly minigunned a scout becasue the leaf lover was wearing the bug looking skin.

[jagged rapids]

🤣

[rose yacht]

lead storm OC dmg doesn't mess around lmao.

[jagged rapids]

Even as someone who mains both scout and driller ..I still watch new drillers closely with a hint of distrust. I mean... deep down I know what they might do... What they want to do.... I understand their lust

War crimes that don't discriminate. All can catch this c4

I mean ... I would never hurt a fellow employee...

[rose yacht]

me... when im holding a fat man.

🤣

im actually surprised miner wasnt the one holding the fat man.

[jagged rapids]

Lol I definitely had to learn self control on fatboi. Probably had more FF & TKs from that than c4

[rose yacht]

sometimes TK is a must, just to deter a wave.

[jagged rapids]

Imagine ... C4 with fatboi talents 🤤 I need it

[rose yacht]

i blow myself up with it when i know im gonna die.

cuz too many bugs and low hp.

[jagged rapids]

One sacrifice to save the rest. As Karl would've wanted

[queen rampart]

Elite deep dive.

Done

[rose yacht]

edd is fun

dd sucks ass cuz O2

[void stump]

Did you enjoy the 3rd stage?

[tacit jungle]

slowly learning not to run around with PGL out and then 360 no scope snapshot a grunt right next to me

[rose yacht]

rich environment is ez mode.

[void stump]

Low o2 is free haz bonus on solo

[queen rampart]

Well. It quite ez but public Driller kinda clueless

[rose yacht]

in a 4 man team its a mess.

xd

[void stump]

Yes

[tacit jungle]

low o2 is an IQ test

[void stump]

Unless it is an escort

Then low o2 would be ez no matter what

[rose yacht]

escort O2 is the easiest.

[jagged rapids]

Always a great moment when you forget you had fatboi

[queen rampart]

Our engi bring nuke with him. Every time i use phermone and rather the group. Engi just nuke it

Stage 2 leech is kinda jumpscare my ass

Cuz it was sideway

[tacit jungle]

yes, creepy uncle larry who lives in a cave and likes kidnapping small people

[jagged rapids]

Agreed. Except bring dragging dotty back to droppod sometimes . Can be hectic in low o2

[woeful niche]

i posted both my edd runs in #deep-dive-speedrunning , guess which one was the nuking engi

[void stump]

I just spammed pheromones jars and fire bolts on last stage

I spent more time running around then shooting that time

I got like 3 supply pods all for myself

[queen rampart]

That's how we play scout with crossbow

[jagged rapids]

Well luckily there's only one engi

[rose yacht]

cross bow without pheromone feels lacking.

[jagged rapids]

Also lol I'm guessing most of these downs were that infamous stage 2 wombo combo of modifiers?

[queen rampart]

At least nitra is not a problems in stage 3 anymorw

[rose yacht]

i always look for grunts.

[woeful niche]

crossbow is fine without phero cus tesla exists

[rose yacht]

how good is bodkins?

[void stump]

Complexity 1 cave with lethal enemies on is the worst

[rose yacht]

i heard it succks

💀

[woeful niche]

it’s decent

[hushed sequoia]

bodkins scales pretty badly

[jagged rapids]

Oh it was a joke. We dropped 7 resupplies on the last stage in a circle around the droppod

[hushed sequoia]

and it's scuffed on any amount of ping

sometimes it'll hit armor each time and deal no damage

[jagged rapids]

Uhhh There was no lethal enemies in EDD?

[queen rampart]

But flasher hit hard

[jagged rapids]

You mean volatile?

[woeful niche]

the worst part of the edd was by far volatile + shield disrupt

[void stump]

Oh

Right

But still

[queen rampart]

Yeah. Have to call 3 supply for it

[void stump]

It is still the worst combo that could happen for a mission

Maybe only got outmatched by sabo and shield disruption

[jagged rapids]

Yea lethal in tight spaces can be pain. I'll usually go sludge or cryo for that to give the team breathing room

[jagged rapids]

Never speak those words plz

Flashbacks

[void stump]

Yup

[queen rampart]

Man. GK2 really need a armor breaking to crack it

Other while you have to focus on weakpoint

[jagged rapids]

From what I recall, it's meant to focus weakpoint

[void stump]

But it shouldn't be too tough to aim for weak points as a scout

Especially with the hook

[jagged rapids]

Hook?

[void stump]

Grappling hook

[jagged rapids]

Oh

[alpine smelt]

So what'd you think of the EDD this week?

I think only the final mission had snags. I didn't have a driller, so mining through the terrain to fit the pipes through took a while.

Probably fought an extra 2-3 swarms than we needed to.

[lucid frost]

i have no idea, just finished stage 1

it was

can we have more ammo for the placed guns

fuckign web shooters

[whole locust]

if anything Volatile guts was moreso of a burden than an advantage

[alpine smelt]

For the mine head's turrets? If they're running out of ammo, it means you're going too slow.

Gotta pick up the pace and focus on those aquarqs and nitra.

[whole locust]

just go fast as all hell when it comes to PE

sure you might miss out on some nitra in the meantime but you’ll get plenty of nitra in later stages

[alpine smelt]

You get a lot of nitra in the final mission.

[zenith ember]

I felt that for the set of warnings given and from what i heard about the other possibility of the 3rd stage, it was easier than some of the previous EDDs.

[alpine smelt]

Admittedly I also used a lot of nitra in the final mission.

[alpine smelt]

Yeah, I'd rate this EDD as... "average." It is neither unusually easy or unusually hard.

[zenith ember]

like it was a challenge no doubt, but wasnt borderline unfair like some of the hellholes previously

[fringe thistle]

Just be glad there isn't a shield disruption boss fight like we've had in some past weeks

Or lethal enemies caretaker

Fun challenges for sure, but deadly af

[static lichen]

that edd was cracked

stage 3 with the refinery spawn

random twins spawning didn't help

[zenith ember]

or that 1 literal 7 layers of hell egg hunt in magma core w lethal enemies(?) quite a few months back

[whole locust]

at least its not egg hunt + haunted cave + hiveguard

[runic relic]

I thought this edd was pretty chill, stage 2 no problem despite low level randoms, do get red rock blaster though

[whole locust]

tunnel rat kinda saved my ass in stage 2

especially with that huge sudden drop in the beginning

[scenic wyvern]

so whats edd like?

[wraith shard]

pain

lots of it

[alpine smelt]

Pretty normal EDD.

Not too hard, not too easy.

EDD3's terrain isn't very cooperative. Might want a Rocky Mountain or a Driller.

[queen rampart]

Gonna drill, drill, drill

My EDD Driller kinda.....

Clueless

Even he try to save me few time but he just look Confusing

[void stump]

If it is not haz 5.5 sabo and lethal enemy, then it is all dandy

I will rather do a double warning haz 5.5 on anything other than sabo

[alpine smelt]

Engineer bodies sabotage.

[zenith ember]

more of a enjoyer myself

[runic relic]

Hyperprop and hack defense though

[void stump]

Defending it is okay

At least the game doesn't go all out with horde spawn unlike the data deposit

I swear there's something wrong with the amount of bug spawn rate with data deposit's hacking process

[woeful garden]

This week's edd is a walk on the park

Finished it with like 300 nitra left

Did it with a full team tho, just one rando

[void stump]

I think going full team on EDD is harder than going in solo in some regards lol

[humble jungle]

funny edd in the party. Gunner with 17 deaths and 180 kills in 50 min. The main supplier of damage was doing anything (mostly dying) except for actually causing damage. Thank you scout for getting our asses out of this hell :D

[sinful steppe]

helLOO

oh god low o2 on regular dd

were doomed

[urban pagoda]

Very annoying yah

[languid jay]

That's 'cause Bosco is a literal god.

[inner escarp]

is this weeks deepdive good? ^^ might give it a shot later

[vagrant acorn]

There was one with haunted cave not long ago

[sinful steppe]

Yea like last week

[twilit birch]

Why do this weeks dives look ez

Isnt a scam is it

[lone monolith]

L O W R I S K

[void stump]

There’s an elim side quest on point extraction, that’s already a bad omen

And worse, it’s the ultimate time wasters we have to deal with

[tulip narwhal]

would any stun upgrades work on dreadnaughts?

actually nvm I just realised how op the upgrade in question would be

[pliant yoke]

Dreads can’t be stunned, but there are means to slow them down to a crawl

[queen rampart]

Deep dive low o2

Nothing special

[tulip narwhal]

statis nade I guess?

[twilit birch]

Anything electric or with sludge pump

[pliant yoke]

That’s one. There’s also Electric Special bolts from Boltshark, Direct corrosion DoT and puddles from Sludge Pump, Neurotoxin DoT, Pheromones, freezing with Cryo effects

And probably even more, but there’s plenty of ways to slow a Dread for easier pickings

[twilit birch]

Pheromones slow things down?!

[tulip narwhal]

didn't know schloomp gun slows stuff down

cool

[tulip narwhal]

would gas nade and the sludge stack?

or is there a cap

[pliant yoke]

IDK about all the Phero effects, but the one from Pheromone bolts should be slowing whichever target is hit with the bolt

[tulip narwhal]

because 2 scouts and a driller can easily stop a dreadnaught and just bully it

ohh

wait

nvm there's no pheremone grenades

iirc

[twilit birch]

There is for scout

[tulip narwhal]

oh

cool

[pliant yoke]

That much I don’t know, either, but both are slowing effects, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they stacked

[tulip narwhal]

reasonable

[twilit birch]

I usually go taser with ifg with scout

Ez cheese

[pliant yoke]

Oh yeah, that’s very easily accessible and effective

[tulip narwhal]

what's ifg

still fairly new so yeah

sorry

[twilit birch]

The slow nade for scout

[tulip narwhal]

oh

[twilit birch]

First one

Increases your dmg dealt to bugs inside it as well

[dense sage]

Interference field generator

[coral pond]

75 or 85% slow iirc, and 30% increased damage to bugs in it's field

[eager flame]

75 slow

[vapid robin]

question, what is an overclock mod?

[woeful niche]

it’s an extra upgrade you can put onto your gun. There are 3 “types” of ocs that follow this general pattern:

Cleans give a small buff. Ex. A little more oomph on minigun gives a little more dmg and spin up time

Balanced give a big buff but a downside. Ex. Exhaust vectoring on minigun decreases your accuracy but heavily boosts ur dmg

Unstable ocs are supposed to have big benefits and big drawbacks. Bullet hell on minigun heavily decreases ur dmg, but gives a 75% chance to richochet bullets

Ocs are pre made by the devs. Weapons have 5 to 7 ocs with most having 6

[tight gust]

Special mods (with their own slot) that are split into 3 categories:
Clean: Just Bonuses, no downsides
Balanced: Decent Boost with Decent Penalty
Unstable: Big Boost Big Penalty

Some overclocks change how the gun works in funny ways, such as Special Powder letting you blast jump with the Boomstick, being able to Shoot nukes with the Grenade Launcher, or Being able to use the Hurricane like a Rocket Shotgun.

[vapid robin]

Is there a way to specifically get one for a weapon?

[woeful niche]

the game doesn’t have a lot of outright bad ocs, so feel free to do a bunch of experimenting

[tight gust]

No, not yet

[vapid robin]

So, RNG on weekly missions?

for deeps?

[woeful niche]

No but sometimes you can choose which class you want an oc from

[tight gust]

Well not for a SPECIFIC weapon, but for SPECIFICALLY weapons, you can select the weapon icon on machine events if it's available (or the cosmetic icon if you want).

but also the class as well

[vapid robin]

alright, thats a little better, but that's super rng still ;/

[woeful niche]

Each week you get 3 blank matrix cores, 3 weapon cores, and 3 cosmetic cores. You can get them from the deep dive, elite dd, and core hunt

[vapid robin]

Is the Cryo Cannon overclocks worth trying for?

[woeful niche]

they also recently made it so promoting classes gives you 3 ocs

[vapid robin]

Did they? I didn't get any

[dense sage]

weekly core hunt provides 3 in stages (blank, weapon, cosmetic)
DD has 3, EDD has 3, in a similar fashion
promotions beyond your first each provide 3 all at once

[vapid robin]

Alright.

[woeful niche]

i think it starts after ur first promo

[inland haven]

I think season assignments gave me ocs before I promoted any of my characters

[vapid robin]

I didn't get any from season

[woeful niche]

@vapid robin you can use blank matrix core by doing a “machine event” that randomly spawns in caves. This lets you choose either a weapon oc between 2 classes or a cosmetic core

[vapid robin]

Like the Kursite events?

[woeful niche]

kursite events, pickaxe overcharger, and omen tower all have core infusers

[dense sage]

yep. kursite, ebonite, OMEN, tritylite deposits, and such.

[vapid robin]

Gotcha. Is there any reason to do deep dives after you've completed them once?

[woeful niche]

nope

not unless ur helping new ppl

[dense sage]

speed go brbrbr
there’s that 1 achievement for completing one under 45 minutes

[inland haven]

hm, maybe it was the egghunt but not ocs just forge items, my bad

[dense sage]

otherwise there’s no tangible reward for repeat completion on the same dd

[vapid robin]

Is there a goal to go for when you've done weekly missions and dd then?

[tight gust]

Just be careful with ODEN

Fucking CBT Machine event

[woeful niche]

ye the main reason ppl re do deep dives is for speed running, since it’s the only seeded map in the game

[vapid robin]

CBT?

[tight gust]

Get Engie to place platforms above the little machine platform things and you'll be able to activate them without getting hit by the plasma thingys

[woeful niche]

promote classes for more cores, level up on the season pass, find lost crates and helmets for cosmetics, or just enjoy going on missions

[dense sage]

could try for edd if you’re confident
even if you don’t complete the whole thing you can still get the blank/weapon cores from the early stages
or just keep playin’ the usual missions to work towards your next promotion / season pass level
and get cosmetics from random events like lost crates and packs while you’re at it

[vapid robin]

So time sink and cosmetics?

[vapid robin]

EDD?

[inland haven]

Elite deep dive

[vapid robin]

Just a harder version?

[dense sage]

elite deep dives
unlocked only after you complete the regular deep dive once (at any point)

[inland haven]

basically yeah

[woeful niche]

ye i mean, the game is pretty fun so i just play it for fun. I just got ocs and cosmetics along the way (when i still had stuff to unlock)

[vapid robin]

Is it more stat checky?

[woeful niche]

all content in this game is doable without ocs or super meta builds, however having a good build will certainly help you

[vapid robin]

Thats fair, I need a goal or a objective to really have fun, like farming for better weapons, min maxing for strong builds that suit my playstyle, etc

[dense sage]

it do be higher effective hazard levels
it’s somewhat of a combination of build/skill/team communication check

[tight gust]

Also don't waste resupplys

only call them in when you NEED them

[vapid robin]

But it seems a lot of min maxing for me is behind an OC farm which is gatekept by a timewall

after the first promotion

[woeful niche]

at least you get cores by promotions now too

[vapid robin]

and theres nothing to grind for, except doing the whole thing on another class like scout.

but even then, eh I really only like driller

[woeful niche]

i’d highly encourage you to play all the classes, it increases how much content the game has by a fuck ton

although driller is my fav too

[vapid robin]

Yeah but I just, don't like how they play

not with base kits at least.

[dense sage]

if you have a ton of time to grind, there isn’t a hard lock on promotion cores tbf
there’s also the semi-regular extra core opportunities you can get from every 5th forged oc

[woeful niche]

oh ye you also get cores through forge mastery

[vapid robin]

Gunner feels like a jack of all, master of none
Scout feels too floaty and just..kinda boring zipping around
Engineer is nice but it feels like what I'd use it for, Driller would do better in terms of support

[woeful niche]

driller isn’t support

none of the classes rly are “support” classes

[dense sage]

gunner has a few avenues to focus
burning hell mingun + volatile bullet bulldog makes him really spicy

[vapid robin]

No, but he's the most meta support for the game, in terms of digging to pod, restructuring area for things like mini mule events, rock cracker paths, movment and freedom

[vapid robin]

-w-; but thats all ocs that would be horrible to grind for

[woeful niche]

even if you don’t like a class, it’s still worth at least promoting all of them so you can play with all 6 of their weapons

[vapid robin]

If I don't like how the character is overall, why would I like to get the side grades?

they don't seem to fundimentally change how they play

or function in a team

its mainly different ways to slap a number on a thing.

[dense sage]

well, i think it’d at least be fair to get the full “overall” in view
like scout actually just has a sniper rifle as his next available primary
instead of an smg
then a crossbow with special effects like pheromones

[woeful niche]

cus the other weapons might appeal to you more. Also if you only play 1/4 of the classes, 3/4 of ur ocs are gonna be useless

then ur gonna come here and complain that you have no good ocs when you probably have some amazing ocs you can’t actually use

[vapid robin]

Not even that, all ocs aside from main weapons that'd be fun to use

[vapid robin]

alright, who has the crossbow then

[dense sage]

scout

[woeful niche]

scout

[vapid robin]

Or is that also an over charge mod too?

[dense sage]

no it’s called the bolt shark
it’s just a whole-ass primary with its own upgrades and OC set

[vapid robin]

Alright.

[dense sage]

like there are some pretty major playstyle changes
even just considering driller, you’ve got flames for DoT, cryo for freezing, and sludge for slowing/splash
despite all being some kind of area control

[vapid robin]

The problem with that for me is though, I need to figure out the best one overall for that ocd min maxing

[woeful niche]

that’s probably not what ends up happening tho

you don’t choose a weapon then pray for ocs for that weapon

[vapid robin]

And for me its Cryo because driller isn't king damage anyway; he's better to lock down the area for the other characters

[woeful niche]

you try out whatever ocs the game gives you

[vapid robin]

No

[brazen rivet]

Driller was/is my main right now, I end up swapping out the three weapons dependent on the mission anyway.

[vapid robin]

I like the one thing, I keep using the one thing.

[woeful niche]

but why

some weapons have a bunch of good ocs

[vapid robin]

OCD, and its the best

[woeful niche]

and some ocs are bad on certain mission types

[dense sage]

minmaxing for speeeeedge is a valid way to approach the game
but until you snag all the OCs (still on my way to that) and have enough gold to throw at the upgrades, we kinda just work with what we have

sticking with only 1 build is a highway to burnout and eventual boredom, in any game
and that single build won’t always be the “best” in every mission type

[vapid robin]

I don't care about the OCs or how it plays. I care how much I can become a specalist in one role of a team

[woeful niche]

wdym by specialist

[vapid robin]

So

Lets take TF2

[woeful niche]

idk that game well

[vapid robin]

Thats fine

You know what the spy does, yeah?

[dense sage]

i know it well enough

[vapid robin]

Entirely unique from all other classes.

Disguising as an enemy

Thats a specalist

someone who specifically fills a niche or a roll in a game.

To fit against, or foil, other classes

The pyro is an example of a good foil, because its mainly a generalist (Doesn't exceed in any one area, but has a specific thing for hunting spies because dot damage)

[dense sage]

have you considered that it may be worth playing the other classes even on the side, just to understand what they may need, or what they offer that you can play off of using your driller main?
i don’t mean that in any condescending way

[vapid robin]

The driller just does it in the best way though, generally

[woeful niche]

Classes have certain niches that they can fill, but generally it’s good to try be at least decent in everything. Driller is a swarm clear class but that doesn’t mean burst dmg is useless on him. In fact it’s actually in very high demand. It’s the reason you’ll see most grey drillers using axes over the other nades. You don’t need to specialize fully when that means you can’t handle a wider variety of threats

[vapid robin]

sure some do it better in some regards

but driller is the best generalist for mobility

and has a specalist build for freezing that no other character can effectively do.

[woeful niche]

scout can

[vapid robin]

With limited grenades

[fierce sparrow]

freeze grnades and cryo minelet smg

[woeful niche]

and cryo bolts

and cryo mines

[dense sage]

no i mean like
during team play
it may be worth having experience with other classes so you can preemptively support them

[vapid robin]

Frost and Axes is amazing with burst

[vapid robin]

Driller can do that, the only other effective support is bulwarking where both Gunner and Engineer has that effectively

[woeful niche]

ye knowing what other classes bring to the table can help a ton

flame driller with volatile bullets gunner go brr

[vapid robin]

cryo driller is just better in that scenario

with armored targets for example

[dense sage]

sludge driller + burning epc and volatile bullets gunner

not everything freeze particularly well

[woeful niche]

not always, cryo driller always struggles with bots without ice storm for ex

[vapid robin]

Yes.

I'm not soloing though.

I can stick to the niche that best supports the team in my playstyle

and have help with dealing with what I struggle with

[woeful niche]

ye but let’s say ur doing a sabo, ur primary will be useless for like half the mission

[dense sage]

but that niche can still change depending on the mission

[vapid robin]

Somewhat.

Not really, though

Swarmers, Collette wave for sabo dps

[dense sage]

i’ve literally done that on accident
my best offering was the ice spear i forgot to swap out, so i could shoot the caretaker eye

[woeful niche]

collete and dps don’t belong in the same sentence kek

[vapid robin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I don't care about how long it ends up

[dense sage]

doesn’t sound like a minmax then, ngl
i’ll maintain that it’ll be good for your experience as any sort of player to dip your toes in everything a bit
even if you don’t get good at those other classes

[rose yacht]

collette sucks as a dps alone. but if u have sludge pump and apply acid with the correct mod u can literally just dot a mob to death with it.

[vapid robin]

Minmax doesn't have to be dps.

[woeful niche]

any build can work in any mission, but ur not really min maxing like you say you are if ur using a gun that’s objectively worse then others for a specific mission type. Like you CAN bring flamer on elim, but it’s gonna do ass dps for the dreads

[vapid robin]

I'm supporting as much as I can.

In the niche I like.

[rose yacht]

i apply radiation and neurotoxin with collect with the sludge pump.

[dense sage]

but sometimes you can support better with other weapon options, that’s what we’re saying