deep-dive-discussion

[queen rampart]

@stone yacht thanks for the reviews

Man. I wish there SEA drg discord

[stone yacht]

I can run it with you if anything.

If you run it with randoms...I hope you get good players. 😩spent all of stage 2 rezing people last night...

[zenith ember]

honestly hard to say for either, in that specific case where everyone is down near each other yes fm is better, but separated iw can give the run a second chance, hence i said that both competes for the 2nd slot

[woeful niche]

bring some form of decent single target dmg for the dreads

[queen rampart]

I can tell the same

[zenith ember]

the only one i can say is staple is dash due to repositioning and crazy parkour, or speeding up from 1 place to another

[queen rampart]

Freaking ragequit Chinese player

[zenith ember]

out of all the 3 stages stage 2 is probably the hardest from my run

others are pretty chill

because it was 3 guarenteed hordes + hiveguard on shield disruption

[queen rampart]

Nod

[rugged vortex]

Chain hit as in the clean bulldog oc?

[zenith ember]

the relay box positioning was kinda an issue too, the wave spawns from both the top and bottom

[queen rampart]

There's a thing for me that there is no player online to found in this chat when i online

screaming in Vietnam

[stone yacht]

Agreed. Stage 2 refueling is where my team kept failing, and as I said, over dumb choices like players stealing others resupply or Driller C4ing team...and then as I mentioned I seem to be the only one who carries Iron Will as a emergency second chance

[stone yacht]

yes

[queen rampart]

That is dumb.

[zenith ember]

usually need to try and clear EDD within the first few hours of reset in SEA, most veterans are online during that time

[queen rampart]

Real dumb

[queen rampart]

Well. We do thing seriously

[zenith ember]

most of my throws during edd were carried by good chinese players, so i dont have issues with them lol

[stone yacht]

Literally one run I had 400 kills and the most rezes last night because I spent the entire time AoEing on Stage 2 to rez teammates who seemed to have brought no AoE. Man with randoms its a gamble of the dice. Still lost that match tho because nobody was in the zone...

[queen rampart]

Depend

Some they just ragequit or just got promoted

And don't know how serious thing can go

[zenith ember]

yeah thats something you need to deal with unfortunately

[queen rampart]

Off to Leech myself.
Watch and Learn-

They got me

[zenith ember]

you need to keep in mind that china is huge and they are the majority of SEA, so skill varies

but so far i have little issue with anyone that is gold++

[solemn python]

ok question was that last elite deep dive sorta nuts or what

[queen rampart]

Guess i had to play with everything you got

[solemn python]

like the second mission

[zenith ember]

just play well on your part

[queen rampart]

@zenith ember hug

[solemn python]

mactera swarm on point extraction

[stone yacht]

literally had someone who was maxed promotion engi and he was the worse player. Had him twice during this weeks run...

Sometimes promotion does not mean a thing

[queen rampart]

Someone help this little TOm

[stone yacht]

the freshly promoted Scout did better

[queen rampart]

Someone do his homework

[stone yacht]

and he was low level in general so might have been his first promotion

[zenith ember]

you seem to keep running into bad players somehow from your history lol, i can only say that i am really lucky to not experience that

[stone yacht]

Engi took everyones resupply haha

[zenith ember]

most people i've met with high promos are decent

[queen rampart]

My nuke gun need to be feeding

Shut up

[stone yacht]

I run into bad players only during EDD parties. If I do haz 5 regular missions with randoms they are usually good

[queen rampart]

Cry in engi

[zenith ember]

yeah i cant help with that part

i usually go in with the mindset of just trying my best

[stone yacht]

think next week I will just run it alone

[queen rampart]

I am carried hyper oc with 10 ammo

[zenith ember]

if it fails just go again

[queen rampart]

Thing will go full stress

But at least they less

[stone yacht]

good mindset. I try that too. Slightly upsetting to see someone bury the resupply pod tho haha.

[zenith ember]

i do that as driller once its emptied

[stone yacht]

haha it had resupplies still

[zenith ember]

if it isnt then well, not sure what he was doin

[stone yacht]

maybe he was intentionally trying to grief

and throw

possibility

[zenith ember]

it would prob help more once you can get better OCs to do more

[queen rampart]

Have fun weekend guy

I having dinner now

[zenith ember]

because i remember i didnt contribute much when i was starting out

although it helped that i was running scout so my job was relatively simple

[queen rampart]

We all used to be greenbeard after all

[zenith ember]

yeah

[stone yacht]

True, Hellfire coilgun. Crowd goes 'poof'

I think I have pretty good OCs. I just think its best to have a pre-made party or solo. Will try soloing next reset.

Because literally the last one standing every failed run and its hectic.

[zenith ember]

for sure

i just go randoms because i have skill issues with soloing

[stone yacht]

Maybe I'll hate soloing EDD more. We shall see.

Gunner is my best class but won't do it on Gunner solo for obvious reasons...the mobility issue

But I would say most of my OP overclocks are on Gunner.

[zenith ember]

gunner is really viable

[stone yacht]

I sure he is and I have no issue clearing waves with my gunner builds. but I just feel like everything will take forever in a solo EDD as Gunner

[zenith ember]

then again all classes are when played right

[stone yacht]

I love Salvo Module Rocket Launcher so much man

Takes down large targets and crowds so easily

But man pairing Turret Em Charge and Spinning Hell on Engi literally eats crowds. So fun but positioning on it is a bit of a challenge.

Who do u main?

[zenith ember]

salvo's great but i tend to lean on autocannon mostly

[zenith ember]

dont think i main anyone honestly, played all classes quite evenly

[stone yacht]

Autocannon is so good. But still only have like one overclock for it which is additional ammo. Still good and I build it to be tanky (Veteran depositor damage reduction stacked with damage reduction mod from firing it) but I really wish I could get neurotoxin OC to pair it with fear mod to see this insane crowd control everyone keeps referencing. I have so many OCs for the other two primaries tho.

[woeful niche]

hurricane is pretty broken, especially with ocs

[queen rampart]

Chad

[fleet stream]

time and trying things out has taught me all gunner primaries are good

[grim wadi]

hurricane minelayer oc mmmmmm rip swarms

[fleet stream]

and that Hurricane is the 2nd best CC option gunner has for primaries, with the added benefit of not having the direct damage of a dry sponge

[charred spruce]

Time and trying this out told me that gun is good

[stone yacht]

I wanna try Mineslayer system so badly. How are Plasma Burster Missiles tho?

[pliant yoke]

Not good enough to wariant an overclock slot

IMO

PBM are fun, but that’s about it

[burnt sandal]

it's a sidegrade

you'll get the same result as the normal hurricane, except you'll have to work twice as much for it

but it can be effective if you bother with it

[pliant yoke]

I’m not sure if they still one shot Heartstone rocks at Escort, but if they do, that’s one niche use case

[burnt sandal]

just... it won't ever be better than base

[burnt sandal]

that's the only use case yeah

where it's better than everything

but it's so niche, why even bother

[stone yacht]

Oof...

yeah I was looking into them and what you both said reflects what I've watched/read

[pliant yoke]

Had PBM not reduced your ammo supply so heavily, as is it were an unstable overclock

It might have been good enough

[burnt sandal]

It's pretty bad, but it works. If you want to use it for fun, by all means : do.

If you just want something efficient and simple to use : use literally anything else.

that's the TL,DR.

[stone yacht]

noted.

ty

[burnt sandal]

np

[pliant yoke]

Yw!

[severe current]

Did the DD with a greenbeard who is probably used to playing haz 2. Did better than I expected, except for that one moment when she tried to revive me while 20 grunts and an oppressor nibbling at me.

[grim wadi]

oh yeah, found those kinda hilarious and fun, watching a single missle just hit a mactera over and over, only tried it a few times tho, gunner my least experienced class still, but learning the super good builds so i can try to carry teams in haz 5 / EDD

yeah as others said im not sure its great overall, hard to handle swarms with it, was neat tho

for this EDD i think ill go as a sludge blasting driller, or bullet hell gunner

took me 2 shield disruption EDDs to drill it into me that vampire cryo is not a solution to that, i just lose more health without the shield buffer to protect me while i go in to mass vampire frozen shit

[stone yacht]

Driller main I presume?

I beat it with Ice storm Cryo, but couldn't really rely on vampire for stage 2 as you said. I think the only reason I beat it that run is because my teammates weren't bad, not because of a build change. As tbh I performed better on the prior 3 failed runs (2 of those being different builds/classes).

Sludge blast driller sounds like a good build for it tho. Tell me how it goes, I'm curious how this OC would do in this scenario.

[grim wadi]

i should give ice storm a try, ive been cozy with ice spear for months until i decided to try snowball for last weeks mactera problem in EDD, will do re sludge blast, been starting to min max more and look at what builds hold up in crazy shit like haz 6x2 or carrying in haz 5, sludge blast came up, hopefully it translates ok to EDD as it does reduce your max ammo but if you make the most of the OC it can be cost effective, in theory

[stone yacht]

I honestly had no issues with ammo for Ice Storm cryo because of pairing cold radiance (tier 5) with instant start up (tier 1) mods and jumping into swarms up-close and being selective with who I burst down (so not spraying it continuously, but more of a "press-fire". Works really well!

[stone yacht]

Snowball is nice. Wish I had ice spear to try.

[grim wadi]

fuckin love ice spear, deleting menaces from across the map so fun

[olive flicker]

My driller primary OCs are non existent.

[queen rampart]

Mine is ice storm

Depend on feeling if i want to play with fire or ice sometime

[grim wadi]

finally got sticky fuel, hopefully thatll make me enjoy using fire more

[olive flicker]

The only good OC I have is ice storm across all 3 primaries.

[copper quest]

anyone know what missions naked land dense biozone has?

[edgy violet]

Check the pins

[copper quest]

ty

[quiet lark]

Most of the problems gunner suffers from with mobility disappear in the context of a solo edd

Only need to worry about main objectives, so no ceiling fossils or w/e, and bosco can easily grab aquarqs/eggs for you

Or knock down nitra/oil shale

Really the only time it would come up is annoying oil wells on onsite refining

Plus being solo means you can be extremely liberal with your zip lines

[stone yacht]

Good point. Will try Gunner out first then for my solo.

[steel ice]

dreadnoughts on the elite one are a unity to kill solo

[wanton python]

deep

[steel ice]

deep

[south escarp]

Quick question, i'm still a little new in the game and I didn't tried everything. What's the difference between Classic Deep Dive and Elite Deep Dive ?

[old widget]

Difficulty. Deep Dive stages are Haz 3/3.5/3.5, Elite Deep Dive is Haz 4.5/5/5.5. EDD also gives a tiny bit more gold/XP as a flat reward upon completion

[south escarp]

And are core more interesting or it's random (the winable core when we complete stages) ?

[old widget]

It's random, EDD/DD pull from same pool of weapon/cosmetic OCs

https://deeprockgalactic.wiki.gg/wiki/Deep_Dives has a good overview for newbies (though it's fine to ask here too)

[south escarp]

Oh thanks

[old widget]

hmm, I guess EDD can also have 3 warnings total across all three stages, (one per stage max), where normal DD is capped at 2 total warnings across all three stages

but that's normally not a big factor

[candid cave]

bruh 3 dreads in the edd

I was gonna try out carpet bomber solo

[south escarp]

Also, it is always the sames missions ? (mining, repair mule, drilldozer (+ eggs))

[grim wadi]

nah it randomizes between more or less anything each week

[mental hound]

If you want to know what you're getting you into instead of going in blind, there's a DRG Reddit. The top link every week is both the Deep Dive and the Elite Deep Dive.

[old widget]

you could also view the top pinned message here! it's updated every week (edited in place, so ignore the 2+ year old Discord message timestamp).

[round cedar]

Anyone know what the best gunner build would be for doing the most dps?

[brisk pagoda]

lead storm with 32112 or 22112. would reccomend bringing along with it magic bullet 13212 for aoe self defense, and easy web spitter deletion at any range.

[soft shell]

Next patch is looking amazing

Making up the weekly promo reset with actual rewards for promotion

Which means I can actively grind for gunner overclocks

What’s gunner’s best overclock for the bulldog?

[brisk pagoda]

magic bullet for aoe. six shooter for single target. elephant round if you want to snipe. volatile bullet if you really really hate praetorians and bulks.

[soft shell]

Wait I actually have volatile bullet

But none of my preferred primaries can set things on fire I think

Wait no minigun can with burning hell

But I don’t have it 😭

[brisk pagoda]

minigun has 2 t5 upgrades that add heat

[burnt sandal]

aggressive venting/hot bullets

[wet sentinel]

aggressive venting really nice to force praetorians to show their butts

[brisk pagoda]

also gunner has fire grenades

[wet sentinel]

sounds HORRIBLE out of context but

[soft shell]

Butt shooting is unnecessary imo

Their face is the same damage

I used to always try and flank though because I thought it dealt bonus weakpoint damage

[burnt sandal]

the butts are x1 weakpoint so only useful when your weapon have weakpoint bonus damage

[brisk pagoda]

butt is more damage if you have a crit damage bonus

[burnt sandal]

otherwise don't bother

[wet sentinel]

yea bulldog has hollow point in t3

crazy amount of damage with volatile bullets

[brisk pagoda]

if my math is right 11311 should 3 shot a burning prae on haz5 4p

to the butt

[round cedar]

@brisk pagodaI somehow completely missed your msg. Thank you for the tip! I will look into that. Is magic bullet one of the secondaries?

I am level 22 and am about to unlock the hurricane

[brisk pagoda]

lead storm is a red overclock for the minigun. magic bullets is a red overclock for the revolver.

[round cedar]

then the last secondary, which is aimcoil or something like that I think come to think of it

oho k

Cool

I can't use overclocks yet. Hopefully this weekend I will!

Almost level 23

loving this game

[round cedar]

Is the thunderhead any good?

I have it maxed out (minus any OC) and it just doesn't seem to do good at large enemies or trash miniomns

*minions

[round cedar]

Man, google is not helping here at all. Only few things I've found for builds w/ hurricane are surrounding a build that was nerfed

[compact vector]

thunderhead really shines with a couple overclocks attached to it. It's an AoE weapon so it's best against groups of enemies (where damage dealt can increase enormously)

[round cedar]

what about hurricane?

I'm trying to find a build for it to try it out

I've tried the other two

[compact vector]

I don't really play with hurricane so I'm unfortunately not very helpful here :P hopefully someone else will be of assistance on this server

[wraith shard]

finished dde with 3 players. damn that was tough

[soft shell]

Holy shit you’re getting a whole corehunts worth of rewards for promos

I thought it was you pick one of three

[fringe thistle]

nope, its the whole thing now. great rewards for newer players, thoroughly pleased with the angle the devs took on this one.

[wraith shard]

i hope they give them retroatively, theres only so many promos you can have in one account

[olive flicker]

They didn't give them retroactively, why would you expect that.

If you have that many promos you already would have all the OCs.

[sly vapor]

Part of the game is experimenting and seeing what you like. By asking here you cut yourself from a lot of content

[woeful niche]

hurricane is basically autocannon with stun, more accuracy, and cooler ocs

[lime meteor]

tldr: better auto cannon

only thing it's missing is how the gun feels

[young yew]

How can I make sludge pump work? I feel it's a ton of fun but cryo is just tons better at performing

[woeful niche]

just do a basic fragments build and it’ll destroy swarms while slowing everything else

[young yew]

What's a build like that

[woeful niche]

X2211

[brisk spear]

no charge speed sludge feels so bad

like, no charge speed on epc levels of bad

[round cedar]

I appreciate the concern but I don't have the time to really experiment. I get little bursts of time here and there

[olive flicker]

In my case seeing other loadouts makes me try more stuff.

Otherwise I just stick to the same stuff.

[lusty fiber]

How is this week's edd?

Bad mutators I see

[wet sentinel]

actually pretty easy

each stage force feeds us with nitra

stage 1 already has 300 nitra

[lusty fiber]

Good to know

[wet sentinel]

stage 2 cave is very flat and open so easy maneuverability

just be careful, shield disruption in anything sucks lol

[lusty fiber]

I like NTP gunner in edd but it can be underwhelming in drednaught fights

[wet sentinel]

yea

[vagrant cipher]

is edd good for special powder?

I remember one edd where it took place at the radioactive biome and the maps where huge

one was refinery

[idle grail]

stage 2 on the normal deep dive our fuel cells landed inside the communications thing and im pretty sure we're softlocked

oh god

we got them disconected but they are rather far down a hole

[olive flicker]

I read about that before attempting it so I connected it first before drilling it down.

[floral rivet]

Heyo. Considering buying this game due to the sale and got a question: can it be played solo, and is it fun? Not soloq, but solo.

[olive flicker]

It can be played solo, and if you enjoy playing by yourself, it sure can be fun.

Personally I host public missions and if people join that's great and if they don't that's fine too.

[queen rampart]

Woooo

That EDD was amazing

DD kinda boring

[sly vapor]

Is special powder good enough to help you in the mission?

If yes, use it, if not, change it

[young yew]

EDD2 is gruesome

SD+Thorns+abysmal terrain

[grim wadi]

i personally like to shart at my enemies to assert dominance

(i was scrolled up to there i had to)

[olive flicker]

Yea it was really spicy. I had an endless stream of web spitters spawning.

Took a few tries but got through it, all the fails were on stage 2 only.

The terrain around the far mule kept getting me.

[rugged portal]

we had acid spitter problem

[stone yacht]

haha kept spawning right by me too

they could smell vulnerability

[queen rampart]

Well.EDD wasn't so hard

[stone yacht]

It wasn't bad no. Especially compared to last week's. I just had awful team members who folded on stage 2 when I ran it the first few times 😴

[queen rampart]

Guess i got lucky last week

The engi with a nuke do most of the job

[young yew]

Cool. I had an engy yesterday in a normal game that didn't seem to know how to use the nuke 😅

[queen rampart]

Oof

[lone monolith]

apply directly to the forehead

[zenith ember]

Aims the nuke at unsuspecting scout

[wraith shard]

is it just tradition to kill a scout?

[olive flicker]

I had a harder time with this week's than last week's. I think it was mostly due to the biome.

[rugged portal]

i just hate the biome

[olive flicker]

Hollow bough has such terrible visibility, one of the darkest biomes.

Without a scout it is pain.

And I don't really like scout for solo.

[solar sapphire]

can someone tell me the edd stages?

[woeful niche]

pinned messages

[wraith shard]

Depends on the cave complexity I think

Generally every single cave is super dark without a scout at cave complexity tier 2 and above

Even the sandblasted corridors are as dark

[floral rivet]

What do the anniversary trophies actually do?

[olive flicker]

They double your mission performance reward (the thing that adds to your blue bar for the battlepass after a mission).

[olive flicker]

The way each biome generates affects it because there can be more or less obstacles to block light.
For instance sandblasted corridors is very open so the light from your flare won't get blocked as much, so it appears less dark.

Also the base colour of hollow bough is a brown which very closely matches grunts, again for comparison sandblasted has a bright base colour.

[floral rivet]

Is it worth it to mine the random ores that aren't asked by the mission?

[burnt sandal]

which ore are we talking about ?

[floral rivet]

Gold for example

[burnt sandal]

it always worth mining nitra : you'll never know when you'll need ammo.
gold is extra credits so never hurts.

Crafting minerals are ALWAYS worth it.

Extra morkite/dystrum/hollomite is just 1xp per chunk and can be ignored.

[floral rivet]

Thanks!

[thorn jewel]

I thought dystrum was 3xp per

[final zinc]

Is this the right place to ask if anyone wants to join me on the edd?

[jade solstice]

lfg is looking for group, go there to ask ppl to join

[glossy aspen]

why doesnt it say the mutators for the dd? this dd has lethal enemies but it doesnt show on the main dd terminal in the space rig

[coral pond]

It never does, check the pins in this channel if you want to see them beforehand

[soft shell]

Should I restart my acc progress? Now that I actually consider it, me using the weekly core hunt bug is kinda cheating, doesn’t feel right but I’m not sure

[bold monolith]

I don't think it's cheating although it wasn't initially intended by the devs, mostly because they considered that each promotion should now reward cores as well, making everyone (even those we never actually used the bug) profit from the bug but in a legit way

[soft shell]

True that and I do have 200 hours worth of progress

I thought it was a funny little bug but now the question of morality caught up to me

[kindred flax]

Im a real freak: Leave no shiny rock unmined

[candid cave]

dystrum ain't a shiny rock

[rugged vortex]

Leave no rock unmined!

[rugged vortex]

You should get all dystrum because you can either sell it to @nimble imp or save for personal use

Besides, it feels very lonely down there

[ember axle]

What's this week's dd?

[burnt sandal]

check the pinned message

[bitter solar]

where is that?

[burnt sandal]

the 📌 icon in the top right

[bitter solar]

thanks

[wraith shard]

Dystrum Drive

[stone yacht]

Hey I'll give you my favorite Gunner builds in the morning. I get not having much time to experiment. And I'd like to help since Gunner is my favorite!

And I run all 3 primaries often. So hopefully I could provide some insight.

[round cedar]

@stone yachtI appreciate it! Thank you 🙂

Even if you want to start by giving me your numbers for each gun, then that would even work as a initial starting point

[round cedar]

So I just promoted my char

I see burning hell is the only OC option I currently have

Am I supposed to buy that and use it to get another OC?

Not entirely sure how OCs work

[brisk spear]

wdym

if you craft it in the forge you can use it all you want

[round cedar]

I was expecting to see more options

but that was the only one there

[olive flicker]

You have to get the oc first, then you can craft it in the forge and use it.

[stone yacht]

No worries. I can't currently check my builds rn but they are overclock specific. So u wouldn't be able to fully utilize them yet.

But either way, until I can give u some, this YouTube video is pretty useful on non-Overclock builds. I especially love his Thunderhead tank build where he takes 50% damage reduction mod at tier 5 which stacks with Veteran Depositor perk giving you 30% damage reduction by standing next to the mule. And then Environmental Insulation perk too.

https://youtu.be/wEPFKe_E8IQ

[stone yacht]

That's a pretty good one.

https://youtu.be/6rc2UYWLGzg

He touches on Burning Hell here btw 👍🏽. I don't use this OC so don't have an opinion for mods

[rugged portal]

burning hell is pretty good

help a lot with swarmer/naenocyte + easy pair with aggressive venting/ hot bullet

[young yew]

That damage reduction sounds massive, I'd like to try it

[olive flicker]

Weird the role ping wouldn't highlight.

[umbral arrow]

Have yall ever seen two rusty resupplys in one mission?

[untold saddle]

yes, 2 is the max that can spawn I believe

[burnt sandal]

I've seen 3 before

[umbral arrow]

noice cause i've been playing for awhile and in the EDD i found two

and it was the first time i saw two

[burnt sandal]

never saw more than 3

[untold saddle]

I have never seen 3, jeez

[burnt sandal]

it's pretty rare, and since you have to look for them to start with...

and they can be entirely hidden in the ground

sometimes they don't even have the tunnels over them because random generation

[brisk pagoda]

i think i got 4 once like 2 years ago

[desert pike]

welp
I just tried deep dive elite

And died miserably thanks to shield disruption

Just constantly getting toppled over by acid spitters
And when everyone already used iron will there's a bloody dreadnought objective

[olive flicker]

Stage 2 this week is spicy.

[opaque heart]

oh boy!! no shield edd!!!

[junior plover]

Sugar tooth required for shield disrupt.

?*

[burnt sandal]

no, but it's a nice bonus

[primal wigeon]

yay. my first solo DD

[frail charm]

a bit late, but it's worth noting that flares are not entirely dependant on line of sight.

from what i can tell, there's a light that lights up line of sight, and then a second light which lights up a volume, regardless of obstacles

at first glance it just looks like a normal light along with the diffuse reflection off the surroundings. But i'm fairly sure it's a actual AOE illumination

[round cedar]

Wow thank you! I am not at my computer right now but I will look into those for sure. I mainly want to do the most damage possible while not being guaranteed to die. Ill try all builds to find the perfect balance

Are OCs hard to find?

[burnt sandal]

no

[round cedar]

Ok that's good. Do you actually "find" them or do you have to just keep crafting OC things until it randomly unlocks?

[burnt sandal]

you meant specific OC ?

[round cedar]

Yeah

[burnt sandal]

all OCs have the same chance of dropping, and it's all RNG

so it's actually hard to get a specific one

[round cedar]

Burning hell was the only one that showed up when I finally promoted my character

Oh ok, so they actually drop like items. Sorry if these are noobish questions. I just started playing four days ago

[burnt sandal]

no worries

[left void]

what's this week's Deep Dive missions?

[vagrant heron]

See the pinned messages in this channel

[lunar quest]

First one is a lot of big and clunky caves with some rough effects, the EDD is especially tough on the effects and has more thorns than you'd imagine.

[left void]

where?

[lunar quest]

Top right corner , click the pin

[vagrant heron]

#deep-dive-discussion message

If you're on mobile, click this first, then the pin:

Oh. No images

It looks like a couple people.

[left void]

thanks guys

[vagrant heron]

No worries

[left void]

appreciate the help

[gentle plover]

I'm never going to beat this week's EDD. I either die on the 2nd stage or lose connection

[wraith shard]

deep dive solo

[timid mason]

why does the last one have to be ||swarmagedon|| i hate it cuz i'm with m1k

at least i brought a shotgun

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
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[stone yacht]

Honestly so good, think I did my first ever Haz 5 with that build. Was so tanky. And because 'Composite Drums' for the Thunderhead was one of my very first overclocks, not only did I have like 80 percent damage reduction, but i literally never ran out of ammo because of that overclock stacked with the tier 1 extra ammo mod. Infinite firing lol

[stone yacht]

Tbh most of my builds usually focus on either my primary or secondary covering AoE and the other being single target. But I usually have a preference for AoE as I kill most things anyway and it greatly helps with survivability. But it really is essential to have a good balance imo, as u noted. I was under the assumption that u had most of the overclocks already but now that I realized u are starting your overclock journey, it would make more sense to check out that no OC build video or build specifically to which overclocks you have and wish to try. All my builds are centralized around the overclocks I run tbh. And I never got burning hell, so the 2nd video gives u a build for that (but as mentioned earlier, it's an awesome OC).

And u get Infused (weapon overclocks) Matrix Cores through Weekly Deep Dives or the Weekly Core Hunts Assignment. Both weeklies also give you Blank Matrix Cores which can be redeemed during a Machine Event which randomly spawns during regular missions. The actual overclock you would get is randomized (although for Machine Events you can atleast pick between rolling for one of the weapons for one of two class options). Overall, you craft these at the forge once the 'recipe (Infused core)' is obtained... It may sound a bit confusing at first, but you'll see. Hope that helps

@ me if u ever need help running a Deep Dive btw.

[ionic iris]

is it hard doing deep dives solo? Without any overclocks And does boscos revieves reset each floor?

[round cedar]

I'm doing my first deep dive mission and I don't get it. It seems so empty

and I am missing only around 38 morkite

I can't find it anywhere

[burnt sandal]

• depends on your skill level
• overclocks aren't necessary for DD or EDD
• Yes, they reset

[ionic iris]

thanks for settings my fears aside

[grim wadi]

damn i got lucky, that EDD was so easy but my team was just too damn cool headed bunch of pros for 3 level 50s

edit: sludge was mvp for keeping those dreds slow AF the entire time too

[grim wadi]

went really well, that max ammo hit might go really badly in some nitra starved runs but that was fine for this one, felt like i was always low ammo craving that next supply pod tho, at some point about 8 mactera surprise spawned beside us but i hit basically all of them with a single sludge blast shot and melted them, felt pretty good about that lol

def lots of webbers and acid spitters, caught these guys spawning in above us https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/529674786620571658/1082121333074300950/image.png

[round cedar]

That was weird

I completed the deep dive

and I got nothing

only credits

nothing else; not even perks

I thought you would get something cool for doing three missions in a row like that

Well now I am confused. Combat Mobility just popped up in the forge, but nothing ever told me that I unlocked it

[grim wadi]

it shows in the between level status screen bit on the right

[round cedar]

Oh ok

Cool, I'll look out for that

[dense lion]

I never thought to try sludge pump on dreadnughts, I just assumed that the slowdown wouldn’t work on them

now I wonder if I could do it with a goo bomber special OC

might be worth a shot

[stone yacht]

Glad it went well! We should try the next EDD run together!

Max ammo hit? What exactly do you mean by that.

Also during my recent overclock grind I got so many good ones.

Two of those were for Driller, one being Ice Spear. I get why u like it as it is now my favorite Cryo OC tbh. The Spears cover single target damage and long-ranged pretty well. So I don't have to rely on bonus damage from Icestorm and Heavy Hitter EPC.

So bigger threats are ice-speared.

With this OC I don't have to worry about freezing trash swarms and killing them (a problem with Icestorm shredding most things), making vampire drilling/axe healing easier, without missing out on single-target damage.

And if I'm full HP, I can just use Wavecooker to therma-shock them to kill said crowds.

The other new Driller OC is for Wavecooker (Diffusion Ray) which pierces enemies and adds an additional slow. So just more CC which I have been enjoying as the spears been covering my single-target damage as noted.

But I got nice new Gunner OCs during that grind and got lucky tbh because they were on my 'priority' list 😅

[stone yacht]

Sludge is my favorite for dreads. Wish I could get Disperser Compound

Feel like the additional puddles for slowing them down would be great. I never get OCs for Sludge tho. Have none 😅

[subtle apex]

Gold-promoted Driller main here, I find myself going for corrosive damage on single-target hits for sludge, and even build the OC around it. Not a huge fan of the OCs that change the charge shot behavior. I've got all the weapon OCs, and I still just run the one that increases corrosive DoT effects.

Works well for dreads, because the DoT damage ticks away even if the dread is facing you. In groups I'll get the dread's attention, throw DoTs on them and my team clumps behind the dread to burst the butt before the damage window closes.

[tulip idol]

HIA only adds 5% of DoT DpS (after T5B mod) and 15% slowdown which can be affected by resistances. That is really not much. Now Dreadnought has 30% corrosive resistance, and that drops its dps down to 32.669 and its slowdown down to 31.325% without puddles. And that is also not much.

T5A mod, for instance, adds 25% unresistable slowdown to projectile DoT, which is like 2.5 times of what HIA gives against dreads.

[brisk pagoda]

the ammo hit would be sludge blast's -40 ammo downside. taking you from 120 base reserve ammo to 80 base reserve ammo.

[rugged portal]

the damage is worth it

[stone yacht]

Interesting and I've heard Hydrogen Ion Addictive is pretty good.

[stone yacht]

Ohh that's what he meant. Ah okay, Ty.

[brisk spear]

#deep-dive-discussion message

[stone yacht]

Yes I read that too 😅

[brisk pagoda]

hia and t5 slow means you can maintain basically ifg levels of slow on anything indefinitely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiS5BdONfK4&t=3m30s

hia used to be my favorite but im starting to like antigrav more since unlike t1 projectile speed it doesnt make your puddle fragments super spread out. so you can have both super long range and still keep a good spread pattern.

[midnight hamlet]

Нужен бурильщик Русский

[old widget]

https://discord.gg/AfSvjBs will help you more

[torpid onyx]

I've been promoted and I'm ready to deep dive. Are deep dives too hard to do with randoms?

[barren sonnet]

Not necessarily normal dd are pretty easy if you can do a haz 4 well

[olive flicker]

Regular deep dives are pretty easy, basically haz 3.

EDDs are hard.

[barren sonnet]

But dont do edd's unless you can confidently do haz 5's

[wraith shard]

I haven’t played them with random before but with the help of Bosco I found single player to be not to hard

[torpid onyx]

I'm comfortable with randoms in haz 4. I'll give them a shot and see how it goes. Didn't think to try solo. Might try that if need be. Thanks.

Haven't done haz 5 before, so I'm skipping edd for now. Just want to start trying the regular ones

[barren sonnet]

If you can do haz 4's it will be easy

[last kite]

trying the edd is great to know what your up against. try and find an experienced group and work with them. there's a Lotta people who'd be willing to help u

[tulip idol]

EDD is very easy under veteran player coordination

You bring right equipment, you do right things in the right time and you just survive because there's no place left for a mistake

[last kite]

either way, haz 5 is easily the most fun experience once you're comfortable with it! Edd is the highlight of each weekly reset

[tulip idol]

Note that every modifier but direct x0.75 from T5A shown at 03:57 is "affected by resistances", so dread's 30% corrosive resistance would tangibly reduce it.
antigrav aka "AG Mixture" is bugged currently (probably for 2 seasons already?), I remember seeing MeatShield's report on Jira about it, but then devs closed it, so we can't even view old reports anymore. Either way, I recreated it not so long ago on PleaseFix: https://drg.pleasefix.gg/projects/DEEP-ROCK-GALACTIC/issues/DRG-415

[brisk pagoda]

is it bugged for the direct dot too?

[tulip idol]

No, just puddles.

[brisk pagoda]

while sure its not great that its bugged, i still think ag is still worth considering due to the massive range increase you get which means you can apply the slow sooner and maintain an even larger distance due to that.

i wonder if thats the reason why ag also has the normal charge shot spread instead of the wider one that projectile speed gives

[distant bough]

Yeah, I only have 3 promotions (circa 85ish hours in the game), and I did an EDD with randoms today on first try

And they were all around my level, some a bit higher

So it's not that bad, but it does require skill

But the more you play, the easier it gets

I will say that it was really freakin hard tho, especially second stage

Did somebody also think that this week's EDD stage 2 was really hard compared to the 3rd?

Salvage + Pretorian

[last kite]

stage 2 was insanely hard this week, don't kid yourself

[distant bough]

Yeah

I have no idea how, but I clutched it and saved everyone

[last kite]

hiveguard is real bad with shield disruption

[distant bough]

As the person with the smalles level

XDDD

[last kite]

gunner?

[distant bough]

Nope

Driller

On cryo

xD

The gunner went down

All of the guys went down

Multiple times

And I just dodged and did some sick movement like I was a fucking cobra

No idea how

But I managed to pick everyone up 2-3 times

And we finally killed it

The cave generation from a salvage mission is really bad for a hive guard too

[last kite]

cave generation was interesting for sure... few weird holes in the big room. the brood nexus and spitballer weren't helping either

nothing abnormal, just the sheikd disruption is what got to me tbh

[distant bough]

The last stage was pretty simple tho, we just fought the dreadnoughts in the starting room

[last kite]

gunners shield is a lot less optimal when every enemy does aoe damage

yeah no biggie there

[distant bough]

It was my first EDD ever

I really loved it

I don't think I will be able to consistently finish them

But I'd like to make at least one attempt on every new one that comes out

[last kite]

that's the way to be

everything tends to come down to 3 things. enemy prioritizing, aoe clearing and ammo consumption. that just cokes with time

comes*

[coral pond]

not to mention just the static spawns in the same room

2 breeders, 2 brood nexuses, 3 spitballers

[grim wadi]

max ammo hit as in the OC cuts your max ammo down to 2/3 of what it normally is, agreed @ ice spear, i never really used cryo to actually kill things heh, just freeze and vamp or kill with secondary or randoms clean it up, vamping up a swarm of grunts is so satisfying xD

[stone yacht]

Same honestly, I only used cryo to kill things if I was running the Icestorm overclock which makes vampire for grunt swarms irrelevant since they are erased as soon as they are frozen.

[stone yacht]

I feel like EDD stage 2 is almost always harder than 3. Also, congrats on finishing!

[distant bough]

Thank you brother!

[last kite]

100%

[rain stratus]

is there a dedicated deep dive lfg?

[old siren]

GSG really needs to let an Iron Will save you if you make it to the pod-- always have

[devout willow]

Why is edd so difficult this time around

Five tries

Didn’t make it any further than the first try

[tacit iris]

What class are u playing

I just beat it on first try, went down 3 times (1 time stage 1, 2 times stage 2)

[devout willow]

Engi

With shard diffracter and loki

[tacit iris]

What OCs did u run

[devout willow]

Lemme check

[tacit iris]

I ran executioner lok1 + VIR shard

And shredders

[devout willow]

I used lures

[tacit iris]

Stage 1 I suggest u call a supply in the middle

Don’t fight around the refinery

[devout willow]

I didn’t

[tacit iris]

Just speed build the pipelines and once ur done, get the 2 eggs, fight 1 swarm and immediately start refinery

[devout willow]

I called resups away from the refinery so I wouldn’t have to walk as far for air

[tacit iris]

The 3 pump jacks are rly easy to build in stage 1

[devout willow]

Yea

That’s mostly how we did it

Should I try it solo?

Instead of with a team

[tacit iris]

I did it solo

Solo is kind of easier cuz u have guaranteed rez

[devout willow]

I guess Ill try it

[runic relic]

Stage 2 is the real Problem, the rest is whatever

[west plaza]

hi

[strong yoke]

is there a point in mining everything I see

like, do I get any monetary reward for the amount of gold i mine

[trim summit]

Nitra, yes. Gold, maybe. other things, no

Mining gold gives you extra credits

as far as im aware

[strong yoke]

okay, thanks

[trim summit]

btw

when i say other things i only mean the stuff that you mine

some things which are found are crafting materials

and you should get them

[strong yoke]

yeah ik that

[trim summit]

i always mine a lot of nitra so im waaay overloaded with ammo

[strong yoke]

i didn’t know if you can resupply in this game, so i decided to conserve my ammo and when it ran out started hammering those spiders

[trim summit]

xD

does the tutorial not show you how to resupply?

or did you skip tutorial?

[rugged portal]

bro think he karl

💀

[fast stratus]

It, in fact, does not

[waxen coyote]

whats the best weapon for each class?

[frosty arch]

It really depends on what you're doing. Almost every weapon has a function that isn't overshadowed by others in the category

When you put OCs in the mix, then each weapon can specialize in some aspect

[waxen coyote]

aight ill try that

[soft shell]

Is that double beer buff bug still in the game

[rugged portal]

yeah'

[runic relic]

Double beer you say?

[sand crown]

When I search to join a deep dive, they are all greyed out. Is thatbecuase they are password protected?

[rugged portal]

you cant join mid dd

[sand crown]

Ah i see, thanks

[tall meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/1082603201213251645/20230307015735_1.jpg?width=1033&height=581

this week EDD run was funny

[young yew]

EDD 3p is harder than 4p, right? Considering there is a difficulty jump between 2 and 3

[wraith shard]

depends how good your 4th player is

[dusty python]

is this week's edd harder than normal?

took like 8 tries to complete

[stone yacht]

That Gunner hard-carried haha. Must be the manifestation of Karl himself. Never seen someone above level 1000 much less 2000 💀

I wondered what weapons and overclocks he ran.

[tall meadow]

Salvo overclock, BRT leadspray

That would be me

[austere dust]

My random pug kicked our 4th on stage 2, the guy was going down constantly and ordered 3 resupplies in quick succession, he was using them to heal up... rest of the run was much easier without having to scrape him off the floor every minute

So I’d say quality of player is more important than quantity

[stone yacht]

Oh dang.

And nice. I love Salvo Rocket Launcher! One of my favorite OCs.

BRT I either go Leadspray for close-ranged single damage or Micro Flechettes to have an infinite, accurate stun-gun to pick off threats closing-in or fleeing, such as feared-neurotoxined (if I take Thunderhead) Praetorians, who turn around, are taking DoT, and are now stunned.

Which BRT I take depends on the mission type and primary weapon + build.

[woeful niche]

micro fletchettes is my personal pick for worst oc in the game

especially on an edd where the game already gives you so much ammo

[tall meadow]

Salvo is good , yes

Stun fun with AoE

I always stick with simple rule in my head when creating build, if either primary or secondary covers single target damage, the other one should be focused or be able to do more AoE problems

[stone yacht]

Honestly with my build, and pairing it with certain primaries (and for specific mission types), I like it so much. And have seen great success with it.

[tall meadow]

I personally don’t use micro also because in my own opinion , there’s way better options but if you see it works in whatever you’re doing then i won’t stop you

[stone yacht]

I usually stick to this too.

Such as taking Hellfire Coilgun and Leadstorm minigun

Or Lead Spray BRT with Fragmentation Missiles Rocket Launcher.

[normal glen]

i am stuck on a black screen while entering a deep dive, is this normal?

welp he quit

[wanton monolith]

What day of the week does the deep dive reset?

[untold saddle]

Thursday

[wanton monolith]

Thanks!

[short cedar]

Relatively new to DRG, are the DDs and EDDs the same for a week?

[burnt sandal]

yes

[woeful niche]

there’s just not much reason to take it on an edd when u will probably end most edds with tons of excess nitra. I’d recommend compact mags instead, it gives you a ton of ammo without neutering ur dmg

[brisk spear]

compact mags is literally just better microflechettes

[coral bolt]

is it crossplay?

[untold saddle]

You mean with console? No. Only microsoft store versions and xbox versions can play together.

[rugged portal]

well micro flechette give ammo multiplier instead of fixed number and you can take t4b for even more so

funny no damage blowthrough build

[tawdry brook]

How difficult is this week's elite DD?

[rugged portal]

I still find last week harder

the hardest part of this week edd is stage 2 where the uplink position can be funky and hard to defend

there a fuckton of nitra all around

at the end of stage 3 we still have about 2-3 resup

[vast yarrow]

I played with randoms and found it to be cake, very easy

[tawdry brook]

Swag af

[finite vigil]

uh, what perks to use to best deal with the shield disruption on H5?

[coral pond]

Sweet tooth, resupplier, iron will, field medic

[lunar quest]

I was gonna say shield link but I like your snuff Dingus 😉

[digital snow]

not wave cooker

[sly vapor]

part of the game is experimenting, go and try out

[brisk pagoda]

if microfletchette was slightly buffed it would hit enough important breakpoints to be considered maybe worth picking. it could fill a niche that gunner currently doesnt really have in his pistol slot, functioning similar to ai stability engine. if they reduced the damage penalty from -11 to -10 and made the oc double the weakpoint bonus from t4 to be 80%, then on h5 a slasher would die to 3 bullets, mactera spawn to 3, trijaw to 5, guard to 6, warden to 14, elite slasher to 14, menace to 18

currently the only gun gunner has to fill that sort of niche is the minigun, which i like, but a whole lot of people like using the things that go boom in the primary slot instead, and his pistols really dont fully cover for what is given up in that exchange.

[brisk spear]

doubling weakpoint damage is ridiculous

[dawn oxide]

yay did my first ever deep dive today and pulled my weight just fine

[coral pond]

the whole design philosophy of micro flechettes is that they're smaller bullets, so they do less damage but you can carry a shit ton more of them. How does doubling the weapoint bonus fit into anywhere on that? and making it just give you that extra 40% just because you have the OC on is absurd

[old widget]

Probably veering into #suggestion-discussion territory here

[burnt sandal]

a slasher dying in 3 bullets on a gun that can have 400+

not a great idea

[brisk pagoda]

those breakpoints would be only if you take both damage upgrades and crit upgrade, so that would be 54 mag and 240 reserve

[burnt sandal]

still pretty bonkers

[brisk pagoda]

maybe but it would make people consider it viable for h5

[burnt sandal]

it's already viable

many people just repeat the same things without even trying stuff out

[coral pond]

there's a difference between viable and great, which people really seem to forget for some reason

[vast yarrow]

Yeah everyone wants everything to be OP

[brisk pagoda]

i was just responding to somebody calling it "the worst oc in the game" with a way to make it better

[stone yacht]

Haha well firstly, you'll be surprised how many times the randoms in my EDDs ignore nitra like its the plague. But yeah, I just like an 386 infinite ammo, never reloaded, always accurate stun gun (12221) that is impossible to miss with even at the furthest ranges (due to reduced spread and recoil). To me at that point its just a fun stun-gun spam to pick off. So whatever people find success with really.

[stone yacht]

never got this OC so

[stone yacht]

yeah I agree, and I mean I wouldn't argue taking it over crazy strong secondaries like hellfire coilgun and leadspray BRT (considering u cover both secondaries weaknesses with the primary), but I do have fun with how I run Micro Flech

[stone yacht]

Same but yeah stage 2 was annoying, def think resupplier, sweet tooth and iron will were key. Last week was much worse tho

[devout willow]

I managed to complete the edd after 6 full team attempts and two solo attempts

I can confirm the 2nd stage is the problem child

[round cedar]

Does running the higher hazards give you a higher chance to get OCs or a better chance to get better OCs?

or does it have zero bearing whatsoever

[soft shell]

Zero bearing

[round cedar]

that's good to hear

[soft shell]

But a thing regarding the machine events

The high chance to get ocs is based on mission length

Up to 35%

[round cedar]

oh ok

[soft shell]

And if you don’t like anything that you got, just pick the one you like the most

Otherwise the game will autopick for you

[round cedar]

Wait, so if I don't craft any of the OCs in the forge, I am actually hurting my chances to get the ones I want?

[soft shell]

No

You can’t get dupes

So

Ye

[brisk pagoda]

i mean technically no, technically yes. the only thing hazard changes in terms of reward is xp, money, and crafting minerals like croppa and bismor

so since you get more xp technically you get more oc since you promote faster

[soft shell]

Yeah cuz promo bug

[brisk pagoda]

not a bug

[soft shell]

Greatest bug in history of drg

Actually caused itself to be implemented

Thank god they actually added it into the game because I only got like 2-3 uses of the bug and thought it was gonna be back to a painful weekly basis

[burnt sandal]

that's been fixed and replaced with a feature

#patch-notes-steam

[soft shell]

^

[burnt sandal]

the greatest bug was iron will making you immortal, because it was goofy as shit

[soft shell]

No way

How long did that exist lmfao

[burnt sandal]

not long, it didn't even make it into public build

but it wsas a bug where you would die to rockpox status effect and pop iron will

and you would be down, but still moving and firing

it looked like nothing

[fierce sparrow]

greatest bug is Steve 🫡

[burnt sandal]

#drg-gallery message

there's a video of it here

it's hilarious

[soft shell]

😭

[round cedar]

my wife wants to know if any OCs exist for engineer? She has yet to get one

She has gotten an OC for every class except for engineer

[balmy viper]

Yes.

[burnt sandal]

yeah, every class has OCs

she's out of luck I guess

[round cedar]

lol yeah

she has gotten I think about 6 OCs

none for her class ><

[burnt sandal]

6 out of 148

[round cedar]

Jesus

[burnt sandal]

she got time 😛

[round cedar]

The chances of getting mine are not very high

I'll probably have moved on before then lol

[burnt sandal]

you shouldn't be aiming for one particular OC tbh

you're gonna frustrate yourself otherwise

[soft shell]

Same

I still haven’t gotten an oc for the shotgun

Except for mini shells

But that one sucks

[round cedar]

how long have you been playing.

[soft shell]

I’ve been praying after every single machine event but I keep getting fucking shard diffractor

[round cedar]

?

[soft shell]

200 hours

[brisk pagoda]

mini shells is literally a meta oc

[soft shell]

Actually?

[round cedar]

My God. That's insane

[burnt sandal]

did you try it ?

[round cedar]

That's a bad design

[brisk pagoda]

yes most people use minishell or mag pellet

[round cedar]

shouldn't take that long just to get the OC you want

[soft shell]

Nope I heard people say it’s ass but that was like 2 months ago

[burnt sandal]

so you actually don't know if it's bad or not

[soft shell]

On paper it seemed wildly convincing to me that it was bad

[burnt sandal]

@brisk pagoda case in point for what I've said earlier lol

[brisk pagoda]

i guess so

[soft shell]

High ammo counts + you might not even get to use that much in a fight

And less damage

I was trying to get cycle overload or one of the clean ocs

[burnt sandal]

don't just take what people say for being the absolute truth and try things for yourself. Besides, one OC can have multiple ways to be built and used. So experimenting with them is always worth it.

[soft shell]

True

[brisk pagoda]

but ive defended fletchetts before and yall were the first ones that ever said to me its fine. in my 3 years ive only ever seen people whine about it

[burnt sandal]

You know, it all comes down to how you see your gameplay in DRG to start with.

If you're hell bent on playing the most difficult stuff out there (usually modded lobbies) and to min-max everything into hell, then yeah, some OCs are bad I suppose.

If you're not into that, there's about 2-3 OCs that are actively bad.

out of 148

[balmy viper]

i hate roll control

[burnt sandal]

I do too

[brisk pagoda]

i mean i know fletchetts can do haz5, i used it almost exclusively my first year. but it just doesnt feel like it compares to revolver or hellfire or triple tech

[soft shell]

What build do I go with warthog if I’m running mini shells

[burnt sandal]

i personally go with a full ammo build and turret whip, so I can just spam turret whip all day

[brisk pagoda]

for minishells take the extra pellets always

[soft shell]

Is mini shells still good without turret whip

[burnt sandal]

don't care about doing piss damage on grunts, i got my secondary to clear crowds and big enemies on top of turret whip

[soft shell]

Or is it good because it can abuse turret whip

[burnt sandal]

yeah

[soft shell]

Ok ok

So I’m thinking something like

12322

To maximize damage

And mag cap

Since now I get 78 ammo

[burnt sandal]

Without even comparing it to other weapons : does it even hold a candle to stuff like Lead Spray ? No, because it's not what I'm expecting from the OC.
Do I never run out of ammo with it tho ? Absolutely. That's why I love it. Clearing grunts for days with no ammo issues with blowthrough.

[burnt sandal]

sounds good to me

[woeful niche]

it honestly doesnt even feel good compared to no oc

[brisk spear]

microflechettes really does just feel like a downgrade

[glass kindle]

holy shit stage 2 of the elite deep dive is insane

[tough brook]

Cryp/vamp pulls it's weight in the edd

Didn't finish it but damn

[sweet cradle]

why does the deep dive start with a low oxygen modifier in On Site Refinery

[olive flicker]

Why not

[stone yacht]

Why we still talking about poor microflechettes 😅. Some people like it, some don't. It's down to taste folks.

[kindred tangle]

its good

we talking bert right

[mellow sandal]

My friends and me did not play deepdive yet, but i was wondering if anyone got good advice for new deep divers

[hot pine]

soloing elite deep dive this week is roughhh....too many bugs on the 2nd level

[wraith shard]

what the actual fuck

the fuel thing got stuck on the uplink in the DD

and we cant activate it

[steel python]

Well, I'm not a certified expert, but there's always general good advice.

• Always check the abyss bar for beer buffs (Pots o gold is not worth it) because in the case that you're going into a dive blind, the buff might make your dive a breeze.
  Think Dark Morkite on a dive with lots of morkite mining objectives.

• Your build matters greatly! You should always check your perks and weapons before jumping into a dive so you can optimize your approach.
  The options that are never bad are Field Medic, Iron Will, and Vampire as they are certified run savers.
  Just be sure not to pop Iron Will immediately if you go down unless it's at a critical point where: No one has uses left, you're running for the pod and it is close enough, and you have a source of HP near you (red sugar or a grunt within power attack instant kill rang)

• Specific class roles are pretty much the same in deep dives, but there are obvious ones for each class.
  Scout: Always flare up a big cave before exiting a tunnel, no matter what.
  A bug seen is a dead bug and a leech unseen is one less dwarf to help out.

Engineer: Always put platforms under ore veins that are on the walls and are within a scout's grappling hook reach.
Patch up holes and harmful terrain if you have platforms to spare and never hold out on them.

There will come a time where you must build your own floor after detonator explosion or the area is too small to work with.

Gunner: Your shield is a life saver and a huge boon to everyone.
If you think you're about to go down, pop the shield. Odds are you will fall down inside the bubble so you're relatively safe to be revived or you will be safe to shoot the bugs harassing you while recharging your HP shield much faster.

Practice your throws and try to have it ready for a downed and cornered teammate or too many bugs are closing in.

Driller: Watch your friendly fire and if the drop pod even vaguely looks like it will be far away, start drilling a tunnel.
It's just that much better.

Try to keep the terrain flat, drill straight tunnels to morkite wells on refining, etc.

On a closing note, just have fun.

A deep dive at the end of the day is just three missions in a row with increasing difficulty so if you play well and conserve nitra for when you need it, you will do just fine :)

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[icy ledge]

What beefing said is great: but one thing I feel you should know is the contrast between the regular DD and the elite DD. The regular one you can beat pretty easily without any OCs, and the hazard progression for the 3 missions is 3, 3.5, and 3.5. Elites, on the other hand, your gonna need some serious kit and probably a team on VC (LFG here is a good tool) as the hazard progression is 4.5, 5, and a whopping 5.5. Last thing: you don’t need to complete the final stage of the deep dive, as it’s just a cosmetic core. And as much as I love me some fancy beards you wanna prioritize weapon OCs, as… well… they’re fun xD

[stone yacht]

I agree with Beefing on everything and I commend you writing such detailed advice!! I would say tho that for beginners, unless your Driller, consistently pulling off Vampire in a EDD safely (regular DD tho should be better for this) is not as easy so I would take Sweet Tooth over it (or even Resupplier to Iron Will and then resupply to heal yourself if the entire team fell). I also think Dash is worth considering (except on Scout). Lastly try to always have a good balance of your primary, secondary and grenades covering both AoE for swarms and then Single Target Damage. AoE seems to always be so critical for stage 2.

Then again what I just wrote is way more aligned with EDDs. DDs aren't as strict.

[stone yacht]

And yeah as Firnen noted, I often prioritize weapon OCs (fancy beards do be OP tho lol).

Also all the perks that can only be used a few times per mission reset per Deep Dive stage, making stuff like Iron Will super strong in saving the run.

[mellow sandal]

Thank you so much!

[mellow sandal]

Thanks aswell!

[regal crescent]

The second stage of this week's EDD was killer, squad was one dwarf away from wiping like 5 times

[grizzled copper]

is there a trophy every stage of deep dive?

or singular in whole dive

[stone yacht]

Out of curiosity, how do we feel about the following hurricane OCs: Overturned Feed Mech and Frag missiles

I already have opinions but curious what others think.

[pliant yoke]

They are clean OCs, so there isn’t much to say in case of either one.

OFM is helping Hurricane’s damage output tremendously, whilst keeping the mechanics of a weapon relatively intact

If you want to do vanilla Hurricane with slightly better RoF, this is the pick

That’s on one hand.

Fragmentation Missiles on the other hand encourages building Hurricane into AoE-centric weapon, and increases just about the most generic attributes for that matter: 2 AoE damage and area effect by <I don’t remember how much>

I’d personally build OFM for either purpose, and FM primarily with AoE mods in mind

(OFM kind of wants weak spot damage in T4, if you lean into single target damage in T1, and can take increased magazine size if you don’t care all that much about RoF, as you get longer uptime in return)

[fast stratus]

FM just happens to be one of the best OCs in the game, certainly the best clean

The radius increase is just insane combined with the aoe stun

[pliant yoke]

To put it shortly:
OFM is Hurricane+,
FM is Hurricane+, but we really want to lean into AoE

[pliant yoke]

This is a good point to bring up as well

[stone yacht]

Yeah I have all the same opinions.

[stone yacht]

Yep

In fact my easiest haz 5 Gunner build is:

Frag Missiles (32222) for long-range stun AoE and then Lead Spray BRT, built all for close-range single damage.

It works so well for most mission types. Feels like ez mode

[young yew]

Regular DD is usually fairly easy if you're used to Haz3. Don't stay too close together all the time, some stuff can down multiple dwarves at the same time and maybe there won't be anyone alive to revive the rest in that case. Use Engie Hawkeye as a spotter for leeches and before you get out of the pod. Lures or shredder grens are best. Scout needs to provide light and collect nitra. Engie needs to make platforms for Scout. Driller and Gunner should bridge cliffs and gorges, vertically and horizontally as needed. Driller should also make tunnels in most refinery stages to speed up and simplify things. Gunner must be adept at using shield. Whatever class you play, know what you should do.

[stone yacht]

Salvo Module is good for AoE too but more so close/mid-range crowd control. But because charged-Salvo shreds nearby large enemies on its own, I usually run Salvo with Hellfire Coilgun (for longer-range crowd control).

Also like pairing Leadstorm OC Minigun with Hellfire Coilgun for obvi reasons.

But the Frag Missiles + Leadspray is pretty strong

Also love Neurotoxin Payload Thunderhead for CC ofc

[pliant yoke]

I despise NTP on the AC

It’s too good for what it does to be an unstable overclock

Not in a good way

[stone yacht]

fear plus neurotoxin feels like I'm cheating ngl..

what do u usually pair it with out of curiosity? If u ran it

[pliant yoke]

I wish I had Big Bertha, but so far I only have all the relevant Hurricane and Leadstorm OCs

[stone yacht]

I also don't have Big Bertha

And the only OC I have for Bulldog is Chainhit because the game doesn't want me to get Bulldog OCs lol

[pliant yoke]

NTP? Likely Bulldog with Six Shooter

[stone yacht]

so I just never bother with Bulldog

[pliant yoke]

Or if I had Compact Mags for BRT, I would be running that

[stone yacht]

my other two secondaries with my OC options are just better for me to take Chainhit Bulldog. Pray for my RNG for bulldog haha.

[fast stratus]

yep, in fact i happened to post almost this exact build on karl.gg recently https://karl.gg/preview/23380#/

[quasi quest]

Last weeks edd was ez holy

[wraith shard]

*every weeks

[hollow dove]

did dd and edd today

edd went crazy

took like 4 tries

kept dying on 2nd stage

cause we were being silly dummies

and constantly triggered the entire cave

and 2 times accidentally spawned hiveguard

hahaha

3rd stage we accidentally summoned the twins too

while doing black box

thankfully our team was 4 gunnaz

so we just spammed shields

[stone yacht]

Oh niceee! And you have such good explanations too. Bruh the only difference between our builds is that I took armor breaking in tier 2 on Hurricane and reload time in tier 2 on BRT.

I see why you took your picks with those mods.

Didn't realize the problems with inconsistent armor breaking 🤔

[fast stratus]

its not like its useless, but armor breaking is imo the jankiest system in the game

for example: praetorians leg armor is unbreakable by any means

[stone yacht]

[fast stratus]

most recent messages in #wiki-related-chatroom is just normal ab discussion

[stone yacht]

I'll try the increased velocity then.

Also I should probably try the fire rate on BRT as seen in ur tier 2. I just thought it was already fast enough anyways and every enemy folds quickly during Lead Spray

[fast stratus]

the reload speed does give more sustain dps, i just find the increased burst dps more useful since i mostly use the brt on hvts, and those are being damaged by my teammates more often than not

so i dont have to reload to kill them

but really its not a big deal

the TTK difference will be like miliseconds

[icy ledge]

No problem

[cobalt forge]

well we just wiped on the last dreads of the last stage

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[elfin rose]

was this EDD really easy/easier than usual or is it just me, me and another dude(lvl around 150 and me 180) were able to clear it with no struggle

[grim wadi]

was way easier than the previous one

i went in with a plan for stage 2, and having more nitra than to know what to do with takes the edge off for sure

previous one we were doing well but then oops no more nitra gg

[elfin rose]

i feel you, same exact thing happenned to me

but also tbh we were running cryo nades + hyper prop

dreads were defenetly not a problem

[tawdry steppe]

Hey

How can we talk on the game without Discord?

[real steppe]

voice chat is on by default iirc

[burnt sandal]

by using the in-game voice chat

[hoary wren]

when does new deep dive come out?

[olive flicker]

Last week's edd felt easier solo, the stage 2 spawns this week were pretty intense for solo.

[fringe thistle]

In like, 6 hours or so from now I think

Although it takes them a while to generate it so it might take longer

But I know it's around 12:00pm UTC

[queen rampart]

1:28 PM

5 more hours until new dive

Better not be care taker

[zenith ember]

triangle thing will meet my c4 if he comes out

better believe it

[grizzled wedge]

I hate Mission Control

[wet sentinel]

edd resets soon cant wait

mactera plague on elim would be horrendous

😭

[lilac apex]

man stage 2 of the elite, god damn

[vestal thunder]

I wonder what the next season will be about

[wraith shard]

elves

(real)

[vestal thunder]

Tbh I thought something like that aswell
Maybe not directly leaf lovers but something relating to plants or fungi

[hardy wedge]

my bets are on rockpox again

[velvet river]

What is the last stage of the deep dive?

The elite one I mean

[wraith shard]

pins

[queen rampart]

So far we know that there will be new enemy

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[queen rampart]

Please no caretaker

[steel python]

Pray for no low o2 or swarmergeddon

[queen rampart]

I can deal with swamer

But Mactera is the whole story

[pliant yoke]

We obviously should pray for Elite threat and Lethal enemies

In one map

[queen rampart]

Meh.

[pliant yoke]

With that said

I wouldn’t want an industrial sabotage either

[steel python]

Nobody wants sabotage

[pliant yoke]

Because screw IS

[queen rampart]

💖

[steel python]

I can tolerate sabotage as stage 3 because I don't have to worry about conserving nitra anymore

[queen rampart]

Every god damn assignment

Yeah

[steel python]

Also is it just me or has there been almost no positive modifiers at all recently?

No golden bugs, critical weakness, nothing

[pliant yoke]

As in, anomalies?

[queen rampart]

Less

It like rolling lucky dice

[pliant yoke]

Every time I see Rich Atmosphere, I’m a happy dwarf (on Helium gas)

[queen rampart]

53m

[steel python]

Rich atmosphere is speedrun mode

[queen rampart]

We do have that

Also bug

I remember with no o2

What's a nightmare

[steel python]

I remember when the EDD once was all sabotage

[queen rampart]

At least we have a bunch of nitra

[steel python]

That it had to be rerolled

[queen rampart]

Dev: oh fuck

[steel python]

One final prayer, please no hollow bough

[queen rampart]

At least is tree

I found it fine

[pliant yoke]

You can’t have all the fun things. There is at least one bad egg to be expected in the basket

Lest RNG prove me wrong

[queen rampart]

You those the spike can be hit by an axe and received it back

Free chopping

I'm already share my 2 build on karl.gg

[steel python]

When the elite deep dive has egg collection on all stages

EDD becomes EGG

[queen rampart]

Hungry for food

[magic spoke]

I love eggs

[steel python]

Aight, I'll see you all in 45 minutes when the dives come around and report live as we progress

[queen rampart]

[queen rampart]

It easy to managed

[scenic wyvern]

dd next hour?

[sly kettle]

In 45 minutes.

Soon™

[queen rampart]

30m

[scenic wyvern]

8 mins

[steel python]

[pliant yoke]

Speaking of how DDs are announced, is somebody (I’m assuming Muffin Cat, author of the original pin) extracting the seed of each and individual level, translate it into tangible information and automatically updating the pin?

Is this how it works?

Digital dummy here, by the way

[steel python]

Nah

We report our findings live

And they edit the pin as things are revealed

[quiet mortar]

Nope, it used to be that I ran the Deep Dive and watched a streamer Player the Elite Deep Dive to get both Dives.
Nowadays most players are faster than me and get to it even before some Streamers

Tho, sometimes Players do extract the seed and report findings here too, but I never have.

[vestal thunder]

Are there any hints about the enemy type?

[queen rampart]

Not revealed yet

We have to wait for 3 more months

[pliant yoke]

I assumed this was somewhat streamlined, so this is a positive surprise to me that people are so genuine about their discoveries of what the levels are, and fast!

Thanks for sharing

My curiosity is plenty satisfied

[steel python]

3 minutes to dive

[queen rampart]

2

[subtle burrow]

[queen rampart]

[grave narwhal]

1

[queen rampart]

60second

[sly kettle]

People are getting impatient, heh.

[tropic lynx]

[queen rampart]

Nope. Just exciting

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone.

[grave narwhal]

good luck fellas.

[queen rampart]

Here it come

[zenith ember]

you guys too

[subtle burrow]

inb4 sabo on first stage

[queen rampart]

⚠️ May the karl be with you

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[steel python]

Deep Dive sandblasted corridors

EDD dense biozone

[queen rampart]

Nĩe

[steel python]

DD Creeping Field
EDD Open Killing

[queen rampart]

Open season?

Hell yeah.

[zenith ember]

edd drill/2 mini

[queen rampart]

Hold on

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Creeping Field
Stage 1: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 1 M.U.L.E. | Shield Disruption
Stage 3: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Open Killing
Stage 1: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators
Stage 2: Refine Liquid Morkite + 150 Morkite | Rich Atmosphere Exploder Infestation
Stage 3: 3 M.U.L.E.s + Dreadnought Twins | Rival Presence

[steel python]

Never mind, things got changed

DD is now dense biozone Naked Land
EDD hollow bough Forsaken Breach

[magic spoke]

[sly kettle]

That's last week's, aint it?

[queen rampart]

Ay some nỉce breathing room

[quiet mortar]

Yeah that's last weeks

[queen rampart]

For the frist stage

[steel python]

I think something is scuffing it

It was as I said it was before, but now it changed to me

[queen rampart]

@steel python the pinned is last week

This is new one man

[dark umbra]

it's changing all the time :/

[steel python]

I know it's the new week, but I guess my game bugged out?

[queen rampart]

Oh

[sly kettle]

You gotta restart.

[queen rampart]

You need to exit

[steel python]

Restarting it for the second time now

[queen rampart]

And restart

[steel python]

There we go

Exploring EDD now

Good luck

[queen rampart]

Perfect

[queen rampart]

Good luck my man

Gave em hell

[steel python]

EDD stage 1
Escort molly, salvage 2 mules

[queen rampart]

[hoary wren]

Hi is there industrial sabotage?

In deep dives

[quiet mortar]

No clue yet

[queen rampart]

Still waiting for more information

[fast stratus]

If you're asking whether it's possible in general, then yes

[turbid dawn]

stage 2 dd, shield disrupt, 4 eggs and repair 1 mules

[nova hearth]

EDD Stage 2: Refine liquid morkite, collect 150 morkite, exploder infestation, rich atmosphere

[zenith ember]

aww yeh morkite

[steel python]

I lost connection on stage

It's too late now for me to give live reports, good luck to those still ahead

[sly kettle]

Stage 3 in the Deep Dive better not be more minimules and eggs.

[olive flicker]

Morkite with onsite morkite is quite free.

[steel python]

Especially cuz its sandblasted

[quiet mortar]

Oh but if it is it'd be funny

[sly kettle]

No doubt about that.

[queen rampart]

Fuckkkkk

Exploder

Fuckkkkkk

I hate them so mich

[turbid dawn]

@quiet mortar its 1 mule not 2 in dd stage 2

dd stage 3, dozer, repair 2 mules no mut

[quiet mortar]

Yeah, my screw up, fixed it XD

Haven't seen a 1 Mule secondary in a WHILE

[olive flicker]

Triple egg, triple box, triple mule.

[sly kettle]

I don't recall ever seeing one mini-mule only.

[quiet mortar]

Yeah, it use to be pretty common a while back, when we didn't have as many missions lol

[zenith ember]

edd 3rd stage 3 mules 1 dread, rival presence

[sly kettle]

Inb4 some poor guy has a Nemesis spawn during the refueling process.

I've had it <.<

[zenith ember]

twins

[queen rampart]

Random dreadnoughts

Alright

[zenith ember]

nemesis....

right after 3 natocyte breeder

[steel python]

Damn, baby molly DD

[pliant yoke]

Rich Atmo on stage 2 EDD

Good times

[olive flicker]

Nemesis spawn on solo while doing uplink/black box/refueling feels terrible.

[sly kettle]

At least you can abandon the Black Box. The Uplink and Refueling pod means mission lost if you lose connection.

[olive flicker]

Oh right you can abandon black box.

Yea it's one of the worst rng elements in the game. There really is no solution.

You can't even burst it down half the time because it shoots the shield at you.

And if it spawns soon after starting you don't have much time either.

[zenith ember]

yaeh 3rd stage was not fun at all