deep-dive-discussion

[wraith shard]

At 'least, not without preparation before hand. Small rooms are a killer

Stage 1 is more or less a normal mission with the rare bulk and Stage 2 is annoying because of the exploders but also kinda easy because of the Rich Atmosphere

[thorn jewel]

I got complimented on my scout movement in EDD

I went like 15 minutes hitless against the caretaker duoing a 4p, I was proud of myself

[gilded jasper]

do you get more rewards from an elite deep dive

[tardy girder]

elite dives give the same rewards as a regular deep dive (one blank, one overclock, and one cosmetic)

[glossy walrus]

yeah the rewards are the same as the dd, but it's technically more in that it's a second (or third) set of cores compared to just doing the dd (and core hunt)

so at least try to get stage1 done, 2 if possible. haz5 is rough for people not used to it, but maybe better than expected

at least for console players. stage2 IS on pc is not a good one for newer players

[runic kraken]

does this week have a guaranteed nemesis on stage 1? I died the first time in the first room and never saw one but the other two times I did it spawned a Nemesis

[violet mauve]

I didn't have any Nemesi (or Bulks for that matter).

[violet mauve]

Across Weekly Core Hunt, Deep Dive, and Elite Deep Dive, the rewards are identical:
1 Blank, 1 Weapon Overclock, 1 Cosmetic Core each. With the freebies from forging, that means 11 cores/week total.

[hidden adder]

I am part of Mighty Miners now

But my badge doesn't show here to make sure I 100% joined

🤣

[ashen veldt]

How's the EDD this week?

[zealous herald]

bit of a rough go, but not bad for an EDD - though mine got spoiled a bit at the end by a toxic player 😕

[ashen veldt]

Oh yikes, what happened?

[south tapir]

E

[zealous herald]

Well, the good news is that we actually finished. But then he had this huge rage fit in the hub before banning me. So, the good news is that I likely won't encounter him again?

[burnt sandal]

likely, even if he didn't ban you the chances weren't high in the first place

[zealous herald]

Anyway, I don't see any in-game report feature, and a bit of Googling seems to indicate that DRG doesn't have one. I guess that the best that I could do would be in Steam, but it is what it is.

[zealous herald]

but anyway, on your original question: The EDD is still harder than the DD, but the DD is more annoying because it's in Magma Core. 🤣

[burnt sandal]

blocking on steam does nothing

worst case scenario, you can report them for being insulting but I ain't sure it's gonna do much

[zealous herald]

yeah, I meant for reporting, not blocking

[violet mauve]

Perfectly doable.

[ashen veldt]

oh, that's not great. him banning you is probably for the best though hahaha

[tardy girder]

yeah, you won't run into him again since you're banned from his lobbies, which is fortunate but still... running into a jerkass isn't exactly the best experience

[stiff blaze]

Is it plausible to solo an elite deep dive?

[ashen veldt]

Absolutely. Rock n' Stone brother, tread carefully

[stiff blaze]

Based. Any tips?

[ancient steppe]

Just broke through promo 1 on driller, any tips for getting into deep dives?

[unkempt lantern]

if you dont rock and stone your team is legally allowed to down you on the drop pod ramp.

as for some real advice, never stop moving and don't panic.

[burnt sandal]

• Don't bother mining gold.
• You won't need to mine all the nitra, so get enough for 2-3 pods per stage max, since each pod will basically give you 2 complete refill.
• Always be on the move. Don't waste your time idle. Use bosco to the fullest to multitask.
• During Black Box missions, don't hesitate to leave the black box zone, even if it means failing it : you can try it again later on, it's not an automatic loss.
• Make sure to check your perks before going into mission. For example : running field medic won't be very useful in solo.
• Make sure bosco has the electric bullet mod.
• Make sure your loadout can deal with any type of enemies.

[unreal copper]

If you can complete haz 4 semi-consistently, DD are not too bad

[stiff blaze]

Darn, It's gonna be hard not being greedy for gold.

Will do though

[ancient steppe]

aye aye captain, thanks

[ashen veldt]

What class do you plan on playing?

[stiff blaze]

Probably Scout, I like being able to see.

[burnt sandal]

I wouldn't advise going solo scout for an EDD, unless you're extremely experienced

[stiff blaze]

Nah, I'm just crazy

[burnt sandal]

fair enough

good luck regardless

[stiff blaze]

ty

[lime meteor]

Solo scout works just fine tho for me

like unless there's an escort solo scout almost always works

It's also really easy to find nitra

[burnt sandal]

you're probably more experienced than Garf tbh

[stiff blaze]

Probably yea

[mossy jasper]

New to this game, just want to ask a question: during a deep dive, the bugs overrun the team, and all four are down, then the guy next to me use iw to rise, and go down again. As the last guy stand, what should I do?

[burnt sandal]

get someone else up ASAP, preferably the gunner

[sly trout]

Rez the gunner so he can shield and revive someone else

[mossy jasper]

Thanks for the tips, and is there any specific ones if I am running engi or driller and get into the above situation?

[spring sage]

are there any requirements for obtaining rewards(overclocks & perk progress) from EDDs?

[torn verge]

use IW before everyone is down

if 3 people are down, pop it and rez someone

[spring sage]

I have done 2 edd's so far, and the game refuses to give me my overclocks, and perk progress. The game does give me credits and XP, but none of the others

[burnt sandal]

no, you just need to complete each level

only work for the first time though, you can't farm them for more rewards until the reset next week

[spring sage]

completed all levels

twice now

is there like some amount of contribution threshold that I might not be reaching?

[torn verge]

bugs don't stop spawning just because people are down
you need to have the amount of bugs you kill per minute to be higher than the number of bugs spawning per minute

[burnt sandal]

nope

[spring sage]

huh

guess the game hates me

[torn verge]

so the longer you remain at low numbers of active dwarves the worse you are

[burnt sandal]

you've completed a normal deep dives before trying the EDD, right ?

[spring sage]

yes, and it gave me my rewards first round

[torn verge]

those bugs just keep piling up
2 people being down mid-swarm is already a crisis

[burnt sandal]

are you using any mods ?

[spring sage]

not that I am aware of

[torn verge]

3 people being down is smash-glass-for-axe territory
pop IW and FM and whatever else you've got

[burnt sandal]

close your game, verify your files and sync your system clock, then try again

[spring sage]

how do i verify files?

[burnt sandal]

right click on the game => properties => local files => verify game files

[spring sage]

it doesn't appear to have an option for local files

ah nvm, through steam

it says all files successfully validated

[spring sage]

ok, I updated and restarted my computer, I'ma try again

[burnt sandal]

good luck

[spring sage]

turns out, im just stupid, apparently i was doing normal DD, and otEDD

[burnt sandal]

well at least it's an easy fix I guess 😄

[spring sage]

EDDs are really hard xd

[mossy jasper]

heard it's 4.5/5/5.5, not sure it's accurate

[burnt sandal]

it's accurate

[jagged vortex]

Deep dive

[brave lodge]

edd done woo

[knotty zealot]

you enjoy the bulk deto surprises?

[unkempt lantern]

brought bullet hell to the DD it sucked so bad but I made it work

[wary rune]

tips for elite deep dives? Got crushed

on the machine boss

[frail wraith]

I've read that 2-people EDD are easier because of the scaling (scaled the same as solo) but between 3 and 4 people, is there an easier option ? I usually play with 2 friends and we are wondering if we should LF another player for EDD

[violet mauve]

No, 2 people means higher stats on enemies.

[gusty stag]

I'd say 2 people EDD will be easier if 2/4 people don't know what they are doing.

[violet mauve]

Also, it depends what classes you have.

Driller and Gunner work very well together. Engineer and Scout also work very well together.

Other 2-player combos might not go so well.

So if you want to avoid that, go for a 3-player party. Or solo.

[frail wraith]

Very clear, thank you 🙂

[violet mauve]

As for fighting the Caretaker.

What you're going to need is a lot of ammo and that means nitra. Try to save up as much as you can (minimum 320) and place your resupply pods roughly in a line so you have something of a defence wall. Keep moving to avoid shots. Bosco is fairly good at killing the tentacles but can't shoot the actual Caretaker. When there are patrol bots or sniper turrets, focus on those first. Speed is key in this fight.

Also, the Caretaker is immune to status effects.

But the tentacles are not. So if you have a strong source of heat, you can kill them quickly (or, well, disable them).

[gusty stag]

Not to mention patrol bots dies instantly if they get the burn status

[violet mauve]

All robos do that (that can be set on fire, I mean).

The best part is turrets, because even when they're in shield mode you can still heat them up and make them explode.

[lofty parrot]

that edd is terrifying. Failed 3 times in groups and finally did it solo with engi. I was so scared I made a defense corner on the last stage. ECR loki and hyperprop. probably would have gone stubby and breach cutter or smth

[violet mauve]

Why not Shard?

[balmy stone]

VIR has ridiculous cc and overdrive booster has no downside

[grand cave]

ngl i completely forgot till i finished the elite deep dive, that the final stage was lethal enemies

[serene ore]

Deep dives are hard to do? Cuz tomorrow i can finaly try out, and I find it kinda scary (idk why)

[sacred escarp]

nah, as long as you're doing everything with teammates :)

[violet mauve]

Regular Deep Dives are pretty simple. The main difference is that you do 3 missions right after one-another and your gold/nitra/ammo stay between missions. Each mission also has 2 primary objectives (and there are a few DD-specific ones as well) and you need to do all 6 objectives to finish. So for example you could have a Point Extraction mission where you also have to kill 1 Dreadnought. The good thing is that for a given week the map layouts are identical (but enemies are not, so keep that in mind).

One other advantage is that any special skill beer you drink lasts for the whole Deep Dive.

Elite Deep Dives are the same format, just with higher difficulty (3/3.5/3.5 for regular, 4.5/5/5.5 hazard for EDD).

[digital glacier]

5.5 .... now that sounds scary

[violet mauve]

It can be... tedious, yes.

I've done over 20 EDDs now, only ever won 3.

Including the one this week, as it so happens.

[toxic yacht]

only tried the EDD this week

we got our asses kicked on stage 3

[serene ore]

thx for info m8, then see ya in the deep

[serene ore]

I need to find them

[violet mauve]

[lean jacinth]

Hey I'm going on my first deep dive, would anyone mind joining?

[olive flicker]

Current DD is quite easy, one of the easiest I've done personally.

And I always do DD solo.

[lean jacinth]

just finished this deep dive

[serene ore]

aha

[hasty patio]

true, but I think the EDD this week is one of the hardest I've seen ever

that hazard 5 industrial sabotage mission still haunts my dreams

[waxen spruce]

the stage 3 mining with lethal ennemies is far worse

[hasty patio]

weird, stage 3 felt like a breeze for me and my friend after we completed stage 2

[waxen spruce]

solo scout + double wave with detonator

[hasty patio]

we did have possibly the worst loadout for industrial sabotage

[waxen spruce]

wanted to kill myself

[hasty patio]

took us 20 min to only kill the caretaker 😂

[violet mauve]

Really? I thought it was easy by EDD standards.

[burnt sandal]

looks pretty simple to me

[hasty patio]

the game did kinda bug out for us. it spawned more bugs than normal for only 2 players

second time I experienced that

[violet mauve]

Meanwhile I found the regular DD to be extremely annoying.

Only stage 2 on that was a simple affair. Stage 1 had exceptionally little morkite and stage 3 had one of the mini-Mules so high up I don't even know how an Engineer or Gunner could reasonably reach it.

Good thing I was Scout for a change.

[unkempt dew]

I wish to do elite deep dives at some point. I intend to practice not throwing by playing a few solo.

in the meantime - what tactics do I want to use for deep dives in general? I understand how to control swarms and the classes ways to make favorable ground for holding off swarms

That being said - when dps doesn't work, I get...Swarmed, and am on the back foot.

In other words:
how do you recover from losing ground?

if this is a "just google it" lemme know

[flat crest]

Understandable if one likes to go in "blind" on deep dives, it might be tricky to have a loadout that works against exactly everything 🙂

When I think of stage 2, what I'll remember is "hack-c + exploders" = annoying 😂

And if there's ever a deep dive that's "magma core + hack-c + exploders" ... I'll prob be cursing like a mf through that part lol

[glass echo]

Decided to bite the bullet and try EDD solo, as someone who usually plays haz 4. First stage went well, just eggs collection and morkite, managed to keep the waves staggered which made it easy to clean up and move on as an engi

Stage 2 on-site refining with rival presence rekt'd me though 🥴 I was almos instantly down straight out of the pod, 2-3 patrol bots, like 5 turrets and a swarm

And I made the mistake of not re-supplying before going into the pod after stage 1, so after just a few shots, I ended up with no ammo and no way to safely interract with the re-supply pod

[limpid pond]

EDD wasn't nearly as bad as everyone said, I think that one guy was right about everyone complaining about Industrial Sabo simply because they never/almost never played it. Come on guys, it's Rich Atmosphere :V

[shrewd elk]

Ok has it ever been mentioned how weird the lore aspect of the salvage mission is. If its our company why did we send multiple green mini mules, was it a 12 man squad? Also if protocol is to only send an extraction pod when mission is fulfilled and to leave after a 4 minute timer no matter what, then when is the pod down there and why didn't it leave? If its a medical retrieval pod thingy then why did you bring mules and saw that another failed? Also how do they extract our KO's dwarves, that should be a mission. Lastly the only logical thing is its another company, but then why do they have the same exact drop pod with the exact same dice to slap?

[burnt sandal]

Because mini-mules are older models

it's just old stuff that's been there for a while, when the company didn't have everything sets perfectly yet

[shrewd elk]

that would make a lot more sense but how old is the comapny?

[burnt sandal]

we don't know

at least 4 years old, but probably more

on Hoxxes, that is

[shrewd elk]

thank you for the knowledge

[wraith flame]

You have to circle strafe or avoid being swarmed by kiting. There isn't always much room so you have to retreat and back up at tunnel. Don't forget to use your grenades to help and try to keep the DPS up and stay safe.

[unkempt dew]

Gotcha, ty

Is there anything special about haz 5.5? Besides the standard stat changes

[burnt sandal]

just some stat tweaks, that's about it

[unkempt dew]

Gotcha. That’s my last question, thank you all

[subtle crescent]

hello

what is deepdive

like what do you do if you die

and what are costs and what do you get

[uneven lichen]

The main loot draw of deep dives are matrix cores

You get one per stage I believe

[subtle crescent]

can you repeat?

[uneven lichen]

Lemme give you a basic overview

A deep dive is a relatively hard activity which consists of 3 normal sized missions one after the other in which both primary and secondary objectives need to be completed in order to succeed. Ammo, health, and minerals persist between each mission so it’s important to keep them into account

Aside from the normal mission rewards, Deep Dives reward 1 matrix core (OC, Cosmetic, or Blank) per mission or “stage” completion

That’s about as much as I know

They can be completed solo (not reccomended), privately with friends, or with public matchmaking, which is mostly consistent and a good option

[subtle crescent]

how many deepdives games can you play per day /

[unreal copper]

You only get the rewards once per week

[subtle crescent]

ic

[unreal copper]

but you can play them as many times as you want

[uneven lichen]

Those rewards are for each difficulty

So since there’s 2 difficulties with 3 rewards, you get 6 cores per week from them (not including the weekly core hunt, which brings the total to 9)

[subtle crescent]

how do i unlock the elite one?

[unreal copper]

I think it unlocks with the regular one

Might need haz 5 unlocked as well

[shut knot]

the second elite one this week is really annoying any tips?

[strange leaf]

что за бурилу в нынешнем элитном дипдайве можно делать во время саботажа

[old widget]

Usual Haz 5 caretaker strats, but abuse rich atmo by never stopping moving. On stage 3, respect Haz 5.5 lethal enemies and don’t cowboy the eggs

Ran it with some fellow greybeards and we got a little cocky on stage 3 extraction, don’t recommend stacking timed swarm + egg swarm then calling for pod

[rustic crypt]

Guys do you think developers can add 2 more characters in game? Maybe some Female dwarf? It will be verry cool. Or some healer class? What do you think? Let me know

[old widget]

#suggestions please

~~ Also, A+ effort if trolling~~

[gilded jasper]

do you only get deep dive rewards once a week?

[fluid cliff]

yeah once for each DD and EDD

[brave lodge]

thats the regular dep dive

[glass echo]

I'm on Playstation

[brave lodge]

wacky

[glossy walrus]

the console dds are listed in the pin as well

was on the comfier side there since we don't have to worry about haz5 IS for a little while longer

[coral pond]

Got fucked on this week's edd, didn't have enough nitra for more resupplies on the IS

[brave lodge]

the fight is still so long

[old widget]

cheese strats do still work on caretaker...engi can build pancake stairs up and above caretaker, driller can toss C4 down and hit all armor spots at once, big success

[west eagle]

i can solo dd and edd basically with any dwarf?

[brave lodge]

good job

[glossy walrus]

if you're good enough yes, some are harder than others

driller can just drill a tunnel into the ceiling and do it by himself

better to not rely on someone else knowing what to do because most people don't know IS strats

I did a fair number of IS, didn't meet a single engie or gunner who set up for it, had to do it on my own every time

[twilit needle]

Any good advice or resources for scout class? My gunner is lvl22 but I've noticed there has been any scouts playing whenever I jump into a group

[drifting parcel]

if you're new to the game I'd highly recommend just finishing up lvl 25 on the gunner if its your highest one

promotion unlocks overclocks which are a really great unlock

[twilit needle]

Yea I plan on getting to 25 first then go with the scout

And yes just started. Loving it so far except for the ppl that just kick people or my favorite so far is shooting the egg to start an event with no one else around

But such is life

[drifting parcel]

yeah with the sale there's a lot of new players lately but i've never personally experienced frequent kicking

could try hosting yourself

[twilit needle]

Yea I'm gonna do that when I get home from work tonight. But I got into a group meteorite dropped so myself and another guy set everythjng up and then he got kicked and then I got kicked right after

[brave lodge]

well listen to chat if ur getting kicked so often

[twilit needle]

Oh I watched chat the guy never left the drop site while myself and the other guy did everything. We just figured afk he will catch up

[prime peak]

A: Difference between elite deep dive and reg deep dive?
B: Best engineer secondary for elite?

[tardy girder]

A: the difference is difficulty (regular dives are 3/3.5/3.5 while elites are 4.5/5/5.5)
B: all of engie's secondaries are good for elites, but it'd probably depend on the missions the current EDD has (read pinned messages to check)

[prime peak]

ah, A explains why me and my team got our asses handed to us on a golden platter then

alright well which engie secondary is most effective against robots then

[sterile viper]

hyper proppelent with heat mod probably 1-shots bots?

shard diffractor is also good

well all 3 weapons have ways to apply heat so

[prime peak]

alri is shotgun best for robots then

[sterile viper]

shotgun is not a secondary but i'd say yea

[carmine pine]

EDD this week was dope !

[sterile viper]

gave it a go today in a party of 3, stage 3 we just kind of died

[carmine pine]

well i tried with randoms 3 times but no luck , 4th with friends was insane but we did it

[brave lodge]

my edd party was great

solo dd was probably a bit harder ngl

55min for dd and 45 for edd, god that first dd stage is so long as a solo engineer

oh yeah we got dark morkite as a beer so that helped a LOT lol

[sterile viper]

yea the first dd stage sucks so bad

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[prime peak]

i have been stuck on trying it for like 3+ hours

[azure lance]

Just did EDD, 4 engi, was fun lol

[idle meteor]

bro edd stage 2 is pure pain

especially if the power station that is further away spawns its hacking pod below instead of above

[carmine pine]

Honestly stage 3 looks easy till you see all the little cronas rolling in the tunnel when you are going towards the drop pod to extract , intense !!!!

[modest ivy]

is there a driller weapon setup capable of handling both robots/caretaker and dreadnoughts?
ik driller is kinda specialized towards horde clearing. kind hard playing solo against boss enemies

[limpid pond]

Sludge Pump, especially with Hydrogen Ion Additive

[ashen veldt]

Hey, when do DD's reset again? Every Thursday..?

[limpid pond]

Yeah

[modest ivy]

hydrogen ion over volatile? seems like hydrogen adds a lot of slow, but volatile is so much more dmg

volatile says area damage, but hydrogen ion is direct hit dmg. whats the difference?

[wraith shard]

one is area one is direct hit

[modest ivy]

the sludge's normal shots do aoe?

[limpid pond]

VIM is probably fine, I just prefer HIA because you get a stronger, longer lasting slowdown

[modest ivy]

slows are pretty cool

[ashen veldt]

You sure it lasts longer? I thought it just slowed with a better multiplier

[limpid pond]

VIM cuts DoT duration

[ashen veldt]

Oh like that

Yeah true

[ashen veldt]

Ehhh someone correct me but not really..? I think theoretically they can hit multiple bugs but not with AOE, just with the same fragment, if I'm remembering right.

But honestly if you want good damage fast, go for VIM. I'd use it on dreadnoughts at the very least. HIA is good for crowd control

And if you want to play around with sludge-lighting shenanigans, don't use VIM

[modest ivy]

VIM is just tons of raw dmg with reduced utility. Hydrogen ion is a little bonus dmg and better utility. cool

[ashen veldt]

Yup.

[modest ivy]

nah im not too interested in sludge fire. the wave cooker looks cool. infinite range seems like a good tool to have in driller's close combat oriented arsenal

[ashen veldt]

And pro tip: Always (unless it would get in the way) try to charge shot when you get down to 1 ammo in your mag. If you have <4 ammo in your mag the charge shot works with whatever ammo you have left in the mag

[ashen veldt]

It's very useful! The T5A upgrade that applies neurotoxin is super useful

[modest ivy]

yeah! i noticed that. in most other games with a similar mechanic, the charged shot would draw from your reserve ammo to make up the difference but not this one

[ashen veldt]

good stuff.

But yeah, for the purposes of deep dives I run disperser compound. HIA would be my second pick for the way I play

Sticky flames seems more ammo efficient but the range and slowdown on sludge is pretty useful

And honestly I find they aren't too far apart in efficiency

[modest ivy]

sticky flames is something im excited to try when i get it an overclock for it. it's already super ammo efficient without one. i tried the cryo cannon, but i was absolutely suffering in robot missions

maybe i should just pick up another class so i dont have to bother with enemy elemental resistances and temperature mechanics lol

[ashen veldt]

lol maybe. driller's fun though.

even without your wanted OCs, you can usually put yourself in a good situation. Drills and C4 are pretty versatile

[modest ivy]

i've fallen in love with his c4. i learned that you can place the c4 on top of the caretaker and deal a good chunk every vent at the same time

so even though driller seems to struggle dealing direct dmg to bosses, he can still help out in more roundabout ways

[lime meteor]

Always, u don't want to be a one trick pony

[small otter]

Anyone want to do EDD with me?

[trail pivot]

C4 really cheeses caretaker phases

[tepid hazel]

This deep dive was super fun, loved the 2nd mission

[static quartz]

same

[timid merlin]

holy fuck this stage 2 sabotage was insane

but we did it

adrenaline and dopamine

[timid merlin]

Failed stage 3 trynna clutch run back after droppin both eggs on stage 3, our own fault but

still fun

[final ermine]

i have yet to be able to pass the 2nd stage of elite, it feels impossible

any tips for someone whos, perchance, not so good?

[lost wing]

A coordinated team is probably the most efficient way to get through it (obvious yes, but trust me, you need one).

In terms of the actual mission, do not hesitate to dump nitra for resupplies as you'll need as much ammo/prep as you can get. Hacking can be rough, especially with exploder infestation so bunkering the hacking pod can only buy you a little time before the exploders get to it. Solid AoE builds are needed for this.

In terms of the caretaker fight, I ran fat boy engineer with my team to basically shred all the armour (yellow health) of the fight. A driller with max damage C4s can do the same thing as well. Other than that, having someone with good single target damage (Scout with either A.I Stability or SCC) is handy for the eyes. Also, just keep an eye out for exploders as they can mess you up when paired with the other ads from the fight.

Also, if you really wanna try hard, you could just focus on staying in one corner of the caretaker. That way only 1 tentacle will be in melee range and therefore easy to take out.

[woeful niche]

iv done the edd twice with ecr and hyper prop and done pretty fine

if u can handle haz 5 sabo stage 2 is incredibly easy

rich atmosphere makes the fight pretty simple to dodge

stage 3 can be pretty messy tho, if u are not comfortable with haz 5 lethal enemies take ur time prepping the room and pull the eggs one at a time

[dusky beacon]

me when completed with few downs with 2 engis and one laggy af scout

[final ermine]

where do i get one of these so called "coordinated teams"
how much nitra do they cost lol

i think tomorrow ill try and get with a group on here and hope they can carry me

me and all my friends who play do it almost exclusively on haz 3, we tried edd once, all insta died, and none of them wanted to give it a 2nd go. i can do okay solo but def not clear it all on my own. i got past the first stage but that damn caretaker man

[brave lodge]

just do what i do and get on in peak hrs and join a public lobby ingame

[tall valve]

Because of the difficulty of this weeks elite deep dive. I took the challenge to complete it solo. I finished the elite deep dive and it was an absolute blast!

Definately one of the most fun elite deep dives in a while

[lament musk]

based

[remote scarab]

Did my first ever deep dive yesterday, died on second against 3 praetorians in a pit with 1 minute until drop pod came ):

[bold jasper]

So it is possible with randoms? I havent done an elite deep dive yet

[lost wing]

Ehhhh, randoms who knows what they're doing, then maybe. It's always a gamble in those situations chief

[bold jasper]

Hmm true

What's the difference between normal and elite

Enemies spawn in more numbers?

[lost wing]

Elite is harder than normal. More specifically, the normal deep dive stages have the hidden hazard difficulties of 3/3.5/3.5 per stage. Elite deep dive stages have the hidden hazard difficulties of 4.5/5/5.5.

[bold jasper]

Oh

Kk thx

[bold jasper]

Is modifiers like volatile guts etc there?

[lost wing]

Depends on the deep dive. If you check the pins here, they will show each mission objective for each stage alongside all the hazards and modifiers

[bold jasper]

I see

[lost wing]

There is no volatile in this deep dive, but there is an exploder infestation on the second stage of the EDD. Pretty rough stuff...

[bold jasper]

Imma try later

[gray panther]

Okay so who the fuck is Xehn in Xehn's Look.

[lean root]

so why cant i join any deep dive lobbies

[old widget]

#bug-discussion will probably be a better place to get help for this, but the most common cause I've seen mentioned is an out-of-sync system clock

(Also, make sure you aren't trying to join greyed out lobbies, as those are already in progress and aren't joinable)

[sleek walrus]

I thought it was intended to not be able to join mid deep dive

[glass echo]

It is

[abstract hazel]

Running a deep dive today (Nov, 14) around 4:00 ET. It'll be my first run through of a deep dive and i'd like a full lobby. I'm experienced and have mic. On Playstation but am happy to hop in a discord call. Hmu if you're interested.

also lmk if there is a better place to look for teammates

[wraith flame]

Go to #lfg-steam for that. That is the place to "look for games (lfg)"

[abstract hazel]

thank you, my b

[old widget]

(or #lfg-playstation since you're on Playstation)

[timid merlin]

That's where we failed, we took both eggs and instantly recalled trynna act clever

didnt work out

[woeful niche]

ye def do not do that

unless you are extremely fast and start drilling immediately after depositing

still very risky

[rocky quarry]

Better to bunker up and take on one egg at a time.

[open spire]

so im trying to get better at the game, currently playing haz 4 but it is very rough. anyone got tips for me? also im trying to do some deep dives and need some help with those

[fluid cliff]

learn to kite and jump almost all the time and you're instantly 70% better

[open spire]

almost always jumping already

[fluid cliff]

bugs move faster on higher hazards so out maneuvering them is key

[open spire]

jumping dont seem to help me tho

[fluid cliff]

start up a haz 4 and spend 20 minutes running away from bugs

I don't know what your core issue is though

[open spire]

with scout it is not so hard

well tbh i dont know either

i just get clapped

[fluid cliff]

engi has the weakest survivability of all the classes and you can still shirk all damage on haz 5 with proper positioning and game knowledge

it just takes practice

[open spire]

now im in solo deep dive since nobody wants to join

[fluid cliff]

start an lfg

[open spire]

doesnt work

[fluid cliff]

...

people will be home from work in an hour or two

[open spire]

ive been waiting 15 mins

nobodsy join

[fluid cliff]

idk

[open spire]

i want to play not wait

[mortal cliff]

sometimes it goes this way

[mortal cliff]

or instead of hosting just join someone

[fluid cliff]

you didn't post a lobby link or a pod number for voice

idk how you expect people to join

[open spire]

first fuckin mission ofg deep dive i already had to abort since the map layout is too hard

[open spire]

doesnt work no rooms open

[fluid cliff]

there's literally someone with an open DD lfg right now

[open spire]

not on my screen?

[fluid cliff]

there's skill issue and then there's putting your head in the sand

[open spire]

ah i mean in game

i use lfg in game

[fluid cliff]

bruh

[open spire]

usually people join quickly

[fluid cliff]

I can't help you help you if you don't want to help yourself

there's an entire discord worth of resources that you are currently talking in

#lfg-steam message

[fathom hazel]

Haz 4 feels like a huge difficulty spike from 3

[open spire]

it does

[fathom hazel]

I don't normally succeed at haz 4 missions but I find them more interesting than 3s

[fluid cliff]

one day you will both be seasoned greybeards and think haz 4 is a snoozefest just like haz 3

we're all gonna make it boys

[fathom hazel]

Haz 5🗿

[open spire]

haz 3 is pretty easy haz 4 in certain situations or with decent teams

[fathom hazel]

I tried to complete the haz 5 unlock assignment and the first mission was killing dreadnaughts

I don't even like that mission in any of the hazard levels 😔

[mortal cliff]

sometimes haz 4 really feels like snoozefest

[digital glacier]

elite deep dive with doom music mod was wild

[mortal cliff]

that is true

and sometimes kicks like a mule

Haz 5 is just constant action

[open spire]

had to solo a hiveguard on haz 4 since everyone dced

was wild took me almost 10 mins

with a bet-c mind you

[digital glacier]

lol

[open spire]

motherfucker would turn around and hide his ass the entire time

since lfg isnt working any of you want to do deep dive?

[glacial night]

i hate that sabo is a thing in deep dives now

[high steeple]

is elite deep dive haz 5
I couldn't complete elite deep dive without lvl 100+ veterans

took me 4 tries

[burnt sandal]

elite deep dives are 4.5/5/5.5

[high steeple]

o sheesh it goes above haz 5 dam

[tall badge]

the seed is what makes it difficult

with the modifiers

[floral grove]

Yo i just started this game and I thpught it would be nerdy but its actually really fun

[solar chasm]

tried the EDD with random teams couldnt finish the second stage with like 5 tries of 5 teams so i tried to solo it and did it on the first try

[lime meteor]

Welcome to solo gaming

can't rely on teammates you do it yourself

[dusty forge]

E

[solar chasm]

id love to do it with a team but seems like the good teams keep the edds to themselves and keep it private so i gave it a shot alone and it worked surprisinglz well

[dusty forge]

Randos are kinda decent ngl

Finished edd last week 3 times with randos

[lime meteor]

in my experience randoms in edds are like 70% unreliable 30% crazy at the game

[solar chasm]

ye i usually do it but seems like this weeks caretaker is taking everyone by surprise

[burnt sandal]

in my experience, unless it's a really hard EDD, randoms are usually fine

[solar chasm]

yea, i agree. this week tho, from my attempts everyone seems to struggle to keep the caretakers "trash" in check we usually died because of just too many robots/hands/sniper turrets around, not to mention shredders

in solo it was easy to manage but with a team it was a hell of a lot more spawns

[digital glacier]

5.5

[digital glacier]

Well, it is nerdy lmao

[high steeple]

this game is nerdy af

[solar tide]

This game is nedy af

[half hill]

You're nerdy af

Nerd

[warm night]

just died in the EDD at stage 3 solo🥲

[grim hull]

reading this thread got me doubling down on my beliefs that solo is the best way to play EDDs

i just wish it werent the case because my desire for overclocks conflicts with my desire to play with ppl

[trail pivot]

the weekly glitch is still in effect...

to a fault

[warm night]

I was in a good EDD with some pretty good randos this morning... was almost done when I got disconnected

[half hill]

Play EDD with rando

EDD is meant to be used as punishement against oneself

[floral grove]

ye i know but still fun

[fluid cliff]

since when are nerdy things not fun

[vital robin]

Got a nem right outside our drop pop

10/10 experience

[grim hull]

my sympathies to anyone running this EDD without a gunner shield

otherwise you'll rarely find a window to repair the bot/resupply during stage 2

[half hill]

Just need some good old aoe

[ivory crest]

why are all the deep dives greyed out for me

what did I do

[tardy girder]

if you're referring to the lobbies, you can't join a deep dive in progress

you HAVE to join prior to the dive starting

[junior pendant]

everything is about numbers and skill issue
so yes, nerdy af

[haughty oasis]

video games are nerdy

[ivory crest]

pain

[granite field]

hi guys, i haven't done a deep dive yet but are there soon, 2 questions:

• Is there different difficulties or is it just normal or elite
• Can you bring someone who hasn't promoted their dwarf with you

[tardy girder]

there's just normal (haz3/3.5/3.5) and elite (haz4.5/5/5.5) and no, everyone HAS to be playing a promoted dwarf to partake in a deep dive

[granite field]

thankyou very much

gonna be waiting for my friends in that case

[sharp smelt]

that nemesis in the third part sure is a doozy
lost 2 attempts to it...
prolly not gunna retry a third...

[trail pivot]

last stage it's jsut a one way flustercluck in the egg room

better off running back to spawn third stage edd, bc a bulk and mob of heavies

your trapped in the egg room

send the scout to get the egg and have driller do a loop through the rock, bc bunkering wont protect you

the baby shellbacks will turn any space into a blender

idk if they can roll while climbing

[signal tide]

Want to know pain? I lost connection at the end of a deep dive after entering the pod and got zero rewards

[half hill]

Just get the two egg out and call the pod right sway

[dire condor]

I used gunner with autocannon and just barely scraped by ammo-wise

But I was able to beat it

[night otter]

Hi, any tips for 2nd stage of EDD with sabotage? We have problems with caretaker, as it is almost impossible to damage it because of non-stop bombing, shields, and sniper-turrets spawns. We just run in "ant-tunnels" done by driler, rescuing each other, until all die...

[elfin flint]

Looking for squad for elite deep dive experienced players

[knotty zealot]

Well how many people you running? Are you staying super clustered together and sharing overlapping bombs? It can be good to stay spread if the bombing is a problem. Biggest thing is usually just constantly moving. Gunner can give you time after a bomb spam to drop a shield gen and let everyone dump their clips into any adds/the caretaker itself.

Engi can give overhead cover with extended platforms. You probably also want more than one supply drop for the fight, partially for cover.

[night otter]

two in party with two randoms. Bombs was only near the end, most problem was that we were on low-hp, as we all were just rescued, so a single shot or melee hit from tentacle, or even unevaded shield was fatal. And there was no way to even enter main cave, because of 5+ sniper turrets waiting there

[knotty zealot]

ah, yeah so a snowball of problems.

iirc gunner shield gives some damage reduction, so as long as its thrown onto a supply drop people at full shield but no health would have time to grab a resupply tanking a tentacle

killing the snipers on spawn or at least close to it is super important, if you have any kit to do it thats top priority.

if its not a sniper spawn transition you've got enough time to kill the tentacle nearest you before it becomes "active"

resupply access is def still the most important, you really do want 2-3 different pods available in the main room.

[night otter]

if you have any kit to do it thats top priority.
Yeah, now I see, that was one of our mistakes)

[knotty zealot]

those things are so brutal lol

at least they're relatively squishy, so as long as you're quick on it they're out of the way and they never respawn

[night otter]

We had no resupply problems, we just couldn't enter caretacer cave to do anything to it

But I get your point about destrying any summons immediately, will try it out I think.
That sounds as a working strat, that I was missing.

[knotty zealot]

as long as your health isnt super under pressure, dont go too wild on the tentacles, just enough to keep the close ones off your back, they're mostly dodgeable.

snipers>shredders>patrolbots>boss=>tentacle

[night otter]

turret ones yea, but melee attacks I always miss

[knotty zealot]

yeah, you mostly just kill the one directly next to you on the non-eye phase

i always kinda just ignore them on eye phase though. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[limpid pond]

Tentacles minimum priority? When they have huge reach, can start spawning in the air/on terrain, and deal a lot of damage?

No reason not to take them out immediately when a single Axe to the head instakills them

[wise iris]

some industrial sabo mission gave me a TIL moment

the anchors from killed ceiling snipers can kill you when they drop

[oblique glen]

they're also weak to melee. three normal hits or one power attack and they're gone. Great while playing as scout or low gravity

[trail pivot]

have driller tunnel into the ceiling and drop c4 on the caretakers head to chew through all the armor in his second and third phases. the entire team getting bombarded by shields, tentacles and patrol fire third stage is lethal. You must end his armor phase quickly.

I really wish I had the breech third stage, bc I brought shard to deal with the weakpoints

don't try and get on top of the caretaker with a zipline, dig instead

[soft prairie]

Sometimes on a care taker mission, I like to get on the caretaker and beserker the sides, very effective actually, on 4p missions I get to take out two sides with no cost in ammo

[quiet wyvern]

i got through the EDD stages 1 & 2 no problem with the current one on steam, however i failed miserably on stage 3, cause stage 3 with lethal is a brutal nightmare

[flat crest]

If you do try the throw C4 on top of caretaker, have an engineer with you to help build platform bridge (that's high enough above so you don't blow up the bridge), have a resupply up there for driller, so they can get enough C4 for the different stages. Also good if someone down on floor, helps take out any near tentacles that can otherwise target driller. 🙂

Never tried the "berserker" thing on caretaker, but sounds like a fun different way of doing that fight 😄

[grim hull]

by far the hardest EDD ive ever done this week, stage 2 and 3 were just insane

i honestly would love to see a global breakdown of its completion rate compared to previous dives, its gotta be low

[quiet wyvern]

yea, even i failed it, it freaking sucks

[uneven lichen]

I only failed the last stage

[tall urchin]

Just came here to say that 2nd stage is the hardest I have ever done. Got some tips, will keep trying when I have free time

[trail pivot]

our hacking pod in the bridge room landed on the floor beneath bridge

stuck turrets overlooking booth sides, but can't be sure how effective it was

but use gemini for the shredder clouds

never encountered nem, but our pod landed at the the dead end of the bridge room

if he spawned while driller was tunneling through the wall he would have had us

the shorter way is to just run out across the bridge

If you can resist bringing shard, breech is so needed third stage

I felt outmatched with mpa warthog first two stages

[frail charm]

can you bunker the caretaker?

i think you can bunker below the level of the room and avoid the forcefields and a lot of the fire, right?

[trail pivot]

his weakpoint moves around

[glossy walrus]

a deep tunnel network with popout points to shoot the eyes is one of the legit strats for high haz IS yeah. the link here has more

[astral yarrow]

someone know how i use the core loader?

how i open it

i know that need a type of kee

key*

but no idea where it is

[tardy girder]

once you promote your first dwarf, you'll get a tritilyte key, which can be used to activate the machine events

[astral yarrow]

ahhhhhhhhhh

thanks so much

[woeful niche]

don’t think nem can spawn on this dive

[tardy girder]

nemesis CAN spawn in dives, seen it a few times myself

[woeful niche]

i said nemesis cannot spawn on THIS dive

there is no rival presence, which is the only place he spawns

otherwise he wud have to be a world spawn which he isn’t on this dive

[snow ravine]

just failed elite deep dive for 2 main reasons:

scout tried to iron will revive me when me and him were the only ones dead (gunner and engie were still alive)

when gunner was the last one alive he tried to run past a bulk detonator in a narrow tunnel

never try to run past a bulk

unless you have dash

you will die

running around it is fine

but once you enter that ring of death you have like 1 second before you die

[trail pivot]

Nem can't spawn in sabotage?

[frail charm]

after about... 8 hours? 8-ish hours of constant attempts, i can safely say this elite deep dive is rather hard

mainly that caretaker fight

the triangle is extremely angry, and you will explode.

[quiet wyvern]

believe it or not, the Nemesis can spawn sometimes in the beginning of a stage, or normal mission, regardless of rival presence, but this one dive tho, yea i get it

[fresh coyote]

Idk if they changed anything about sab or not since I'm on console but I found that ignoring its tentacles entirely and just focusing on the caretaker itself is the way to go. You can reliably dodge all of the tentacle attacks by just strafing and jumping while staying in range of one, ideally each dwarf takes a side and take care of the occasional bots that spawn. It might be diff in dd/edd but that's been my experience with haz5 normal sab runs

[woeful niche]

yes he can spawn as a static spawn with cave gen. However he doesnt on this dive which is why i said u dont have to worry about him

[quiet wyvern]

i know that

and yes i know there is a chance for him to spawn during rival presence too, everyone knows that

[ashen veldt]

This is gonna be a fun one. 3 hours of sleep and a dream. Any tips?

[rugged furnace]

Can you only do 1 deep dive for the rewards or can you do multiple runs for rewards

[ashen veldt]

Only 1 DD and 1 EDD

[quick fog]

How's the EDD

[ashen veldt]

Replaying them doesn't get you anything but gold and xp

[ashen veldt]

hard, scroll up for people lamenting this

[hidden venture]

it sucks because if you fail on mission 3 you gotta go through 1 and 2 again to reach it

[ashen veldt]

That just makes victory all the more sweeter

[quick fog]

FUCK

we just got through part 1

NOOO NOT REFINING ON HAZ 5

I'M A DRILLER FUCK

i have a terrible hybrid build

I have made many a-mistakes

[ashen veldt]

uh oh

what's your build?

[quick fog]

I got this balanced OC for the flamethrower

The one that gives you a tiny bit of extra sticky fire

I usually use the one that just gives you hella range

This one seems weaker

I don't like to use sticky fire shit

[modern tundra]

Did they change the nitra spawns on DD and EDD? (I took like a year break from the game)
First stage I was running out of ammo and couldn't find any (imagine how sweaty I got lol) than I finally found some.

By the time I finished stage 1 I got 104 nitra with only one supply drop called in total.

Previously on DD and EDD I was swimming in nitra, having 200+ by the end of stage 1

[quick fog]

I hate repulsion turrets

God fucking damn it

Stupid god damn rival fucking presence

[balmy stone]

I drilled under the turret control on that one and got relentlessly attacked by shredders that flew through the ground

[quick fog]

I got gnawed by praetorians

[balmy stone]

Then I tried hacking it while under a shield and only missed one time

[quick fog]

I almlst got it before the wave came but a single repulsion shield hit me with its stupid dipshit corner

Just barely hit me

I do not like playing driller

[balmy stone]

I do

You should play edd’s with whatever class you’re most comfortable with

The pumpjacks on stage 2 don’t need tunnels but they help with the other missions

[quick fog]

OBJECTION

This team needed a driller

[ashen veldt]

Any tips for the sabotage thing?

[quick fog]

oh my FUCKING GOF

THESE GUYS LEFT ME BEHIND SO I TOLD THEM TO FUCK OFF SO LOGICALLY THEY KICKED ME OUT NEXT STAGE

Unbelievable

[summer pike]

this weeks edd with stage 2 caretaker was abysmal

our scout died on top of the caretaker

our engi tried to save him

he died up there as well

and our gunner barely resurrected the scout on 1 hp because the scout had quick res

and we somehow clutched it

[sterile swan]

Just first tried elite deep dive, teamwork is all it takes, Rock and Stone!

[robust flicker]

I just played Driller for the first time and recorded it. Would anyone care to have a look and give me some pointers on things I may have missed?

[lime meteor]

dont care

[modern tundra]

Anyone know if ON CONSOLE the EDD has caretaker or not?

[frail charm]

according to the pin it seems not #deep-dive-discussion message

[modern tundra]

Omg previously I was always scrolling up to find someone sharing the dives .. didn't knew about the pins .. thank you so much!!!

[tardy girder]

yeah, console doesn't have sabo for the dives right now since S3 hasn't launched on them yet

[modern tundra]

Cheers

[trail pivot]

Stage 3 is a nightmare

Leaving spawn is a mistake

[quasi moth]

Good god the Elite Dive this week. Talk about one hell of a first impression on EDDs.
Lethal Enemies on stage three is brutal.

But hey, I managed it solo in the end, if only by the skin of my teeth.

[ashen veldt]

Oh nice

Yeah my team died near the end of stage 2. Couldn't handle the sniper turrets.

[quasi moth]

From running it solo I played it a bit slowly with stage two, the exploder infestation ended up being the biggest issue but I was running the stubby and shard diffractor the whole way through, mostly using the diffractor as a means of burning the caretakers actual HP or to ignite the turrets.

I can’t imagine how much of a pain it would’ve been if not for rich environment as that made it significantly easier to keep on top of the exploder swarms.

[trail pivot]

Rich carried us tbh

[rain echo]

the EDD this week can go to hell. seriously.

nothing is getting past that second stage

[tardy girder]

oh yeah, the second stage is absolute hell.

[trail pivot]

Third is worse. So much worse

[lusty shuttle]

EDD was pretty easy even though nobody on my team brought anything for robots (no fire, although I think our Engineer was using Executioner LOK-I). I was Gunner with Minelayer System (stun) and Six Shooter.

Also, our Scout quit midway through the second mission.

[spare dagger]

nice

[wind yew]

just did the deep dive and my teamate got from level 1 to level 25 and gained 15 player level is this a bug ?

[quasi moth]

Probably cheating more like.

Ran into a similar case outside of a deep dive where I know for certain the lobby was cheated in some fashion as everything died in one shot, did no damage and the guy similarly went from level 1 to 25 in that single game.

[wind yew]

yeah mabye but the guy said it was his first deep dive and he kinda seemed new

idk

[quasi moth]

Still, I don't think there's any case where a player should get all the xp needed to reach level 25 in one match.
Especially considering everyone gets the same money and xp

[wind yew]

Yeah it was def. odd the post game lobby was kinda hectic nobody knew wtf was going on haha

[severe tusk]

Stage 2 of the EDD was fine for me, but then I have done several dozen Industrial Sabotage missions since they first released. The cavern the Caretaker is in was actually pretty nice and didn't require much if any terraforming before the fight, and there was also plenty of room to maneuver in. I have seen some pretty problematic caves gens for I.S. before, and this was not one of them.

[flat crest]

Yeah the space around the caretaker was alright. The exploders during hack-c was a bitch to deal with though 😂

[stoic dew]

Is EM turret discharge good?

[shut hatch]

hardest elite dd in a hot second

just make it past the caretaker and be good with nitra ig huh

[trail pivot]

i'd like to try again, but...so much to do

[pale sigil]

Yes

[civic karma]

Holy hell that EDD. Caretaker was a bitch to solo with MPA warthog and clean sweep pgl. And the third with lethal, mactera swarm AND bulk detonator in a long corridor....

Solo EDD complete though, happy about that

[jovial rune]

Yo what's the reward difference with elite and normal. does elite give more matrix cores

[gray panther]

Elite is harder but it's just one more of each core

[tardy girder]

the rewards are the same between the two dives: one blank, one weapon OC, and one cosmetic (for a total of 6 cores if you do both)
i think you get more credits and XP from elite, though

[mellow parcel]

good

[void folio]

This deep dive was my first EDD and it actually went smoother than I was expecting! I was running sticky fuel driller, which wasn't a great choice against the caretaker and almost had me running out of ammo. Thankfully me and the lads clutched it out toward the end!

[hidden adder]

Wth, i had a mission similar to that and the same build as Engi

[frail charm]

technically, couldn't you start a haz 1 double exp mission on any mission type with endless spawns and then just spend 10 hours killing bugs with your pickaxe?

or does exp from kills have diminishing returns

(not that that happened in the deep dive, but its theoretically possible)

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[trail pivot]

you'll run out of ammo or die first

only worth 1-2 xp

[frail charm]

that's why you go haz 1.

It's not a sane way to get exp, but if your goal is to level up a class from 0-25 in a single mission...

[trail pivot]

the time sink

[stoic dew]

what build should i go?

[lusty shuttle]

Do you remember the Driller doing c4 to the Caretaker and the Gunner putting one resupply kind of far from the Caretaker?

[soft prairie]

Can't wait for console deep dives to be back to the same as pc

[copper cedar]

Sabotage on edd? Wow its been good

[twilit kernel]

Can you do more than one deepdive on the same person and get rewards

[quiet mortar]

Xp and season points, yes

Cores, sadly no

[twilit kernel]

😭thanks though

[copper cedar]

Hey, is there a new DD bug? Just did the edd and instead of IS we got a LR, and then got 250 morkite instead of 200 in the last one?

[vast swallow]

Are deep dives random or do the devs control what they are each week?

[quiet mortar]

Random, the Devs have been known to do unique ones for bug updates, but the rest of the time they are completely random

[tardy girder]

console dives are different than steam dives right now

[dusty forge]

The console deep dives have been surprisingly easy these days

Edd as well

[copper cedar]

Ohh, ok ty. I assume that the Dd/EDD listed above is now the pc version?

[tardy girder]

both the steam and console dives are listed in the pinned messages

they might sync back up when S3 launches on consoles tomorrow

[copper cedar]

Ah ok ty.

[hollow pecan]

with the caretaker now in deep dives, it feels like if the gunner doesn't have a minigun then it's going to fail by default

[limpid pond]

Hurricane is more than fine vs Rival Tech

[zealous nest]

Lead storm minigun and hellfire coilgun moment

[gritty plinth]

is this week's EDD bugged or something, i cleaned the whole map and im still missing 1 egg (1st stage)

[quiet mortar]

Check terrain scanner

[woeful niche]

jet fuel tho

[burnt sandal]

hurricane is fine for the caretaker and the AC isn't the best obviously but it's alright

worst case scenario, you have a huge ammo pool and your secondary

[mystic grove]

Dear 3 people I just played the EDD with today, if you're here and see this, thank you for your valiant efforts. Together, we've barely scraped by, and in the end, we were defeated. I would be extraordinarily happy if I ever got the opportunity to fight by your sides again. Rock and Stone, you beautiful dwarves. May we meet again.

[still sonnet]

there once was a man from nantucket

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[lusty shuttle]

My team had no issue with the Caretaker on this week's EDD and our Driller had cryo and I had Minelayer System.

Driller bombed it from above, I used Six Shooter on it, and Engie used Executioner LOK-I.

[hollow pecan]

I was driller and both gunner and engi ignored me when I asked for assistance with bombing. 😦

If I wanna keep pubbing deep dives I think I gotta start looking up what the stages are instead of going in blind like normal. So I can prepare for potential roadblock caretakers.

[ashen veldt]

Alright so I still need to get through some uni stuff tonight, but I'm hopefully gonna be able to finish the EDD.
How in hoxxes do I deal with the sniper turrets in phase two?

[hollow pecan]

long range weapons such as goo (anti-gravity), M1000, shard diffractor, minigun, bulldog.

also ensure you don't clear too much terrain so you have cover and maybe ask engi to make some platform ceilings/shelters or pancake stacks

[lusty shuttle]

Not a bad idea, I usually check too. Sucks to hear your Engi and Gunner weren't cooperating, though. I put up a zipline and our Engi made our Driller a platform bridge above it.

[violet mauve]

Hide behind environment. Let it shoot. Then shoot it, and hide again.

Sniper turrets have a massive delay from aiming to shot. Abuse it.

[ashen veldt]

Can they shoot through engie turrets?

oop

Through platforms*

[violet mauve]

Platforms are destructible.

[hollow pecan]

snipers also aren't very smart. they will switch targets soon after losing sight of one, but will switch back to their previous target if it becomes available again

[violet mauve]

So maybe.

[hollow pecan]

so you can keep them switching back and forth

they won't fire on you if they can't see you, so they will not attack platforms

the tentacles WILL attack plafrorms, but they can be taken out with a single power attack (anywhere) or an impact axe to the "head"

[ashen veldt]

Hm okay

[hasty hamlet]

i used shard diffractor with heat to take care of the snipers easily

[ashen veldt]

What's best suited to take out sniper turrets without overspecialising? Heavy hitter EPC kind of sounds like an answer

Hm nice

I remember my gunner was struggling with experimental rounds

[hollow pecan]

shard diffractor tuned to area damage will still take out snipers pretty efficiently

[ashen veldt]

Do they heat up quickly?

[limpid pond]

Any medium/long range weapon

[ashen veldt]

Apparently they've got -100% resistance to explosive damage

[hollow pecan]

so hurricane is a big winner then

[ashen veldt]

Fair. But I remember my microwave did peanuts to the thing

[limpid pond]

Well CWC does peanuts to everything

[ashen veldt]

Oh, would minelayer work??

[hollow pecan]

you can try microwave on them, but as driller it's not your job to deal with snipers.

[limpid pond]

Minelayer is the one Hurricane build that sucks vs Rivals

[hollow pecan]

if you are solo, I recommend subauta instead, or if you're good with timing, thin containment field

[torn verge]

engie using shard diff with heat mod can carry a caretaker fight
shard diff for sniper turrets, the engi turrets kill the shredder swarms

and can clear out two of the tentacle arms by himself with gemini defender turret dps plus his weapons

and lures as well for distracting the tentacle attacks

[ashen veldt]

oh lmao

i just remembered that shredders exist

[torn verge]

a good engi can also carry the two hacking pod events before the caretaker
engi is just really good on industrial sabo

[ashen veldt]

hm cool

[ashen veldt]

how exactly? i remember the terrain on the second event is terrible

[torn verge]

repellant plats

[ashen veldt]

Oh true

[torn verge]

i don't recall exactly how i did it, but i did it first try with a rando team

[ashen veldt]

How does one use those effectively? just like, a roof and some on the sides of an area?

[torn verge]

it's like redirecting the flow of water

if you're pressed up against a wall, make a semicircle of plats to redirect the bugs down the sides, so they don't come directly down from above you

if you're in an open area, dot it with sets of 2 platforms to bunch up the bugs for better aoe

and for the second hacking pod specifically build a damn floor

[balmy stone]

You need to cover hacksy but not the antenna

Repellant plats work pretty well at moving enemies to chokepoints if you wanna do it that way tho so I agree

[ashen veldt]

Oh so I just need the green line going through? So like, tiny hole but have the thing otherwise covered?

Does that mean I should be digging the thing underground a bit?

[balmy stone]

Pretty much. Dig the hacking pod down to be around floor height, press the button to start hacksy then cover hacksy and the hole with platforms entirely while leaving the satellite exposed to keep the connection

[ashen veldt]

then how do we access the pod when it goes down?

[balmy stone]

Sometimes you need to adjust the transmitter nodes to match the angle

Hacksy can’t get damaged by bugs if he’s fully covered by platforms and you keep exploders and stuff away

If he does go down just dig to the button then fill in the hole with platforms again

You basically don’t need to be in the same zipcode when it works

[limpid pond]

It's great until a single Oppressor blows the whole thing apart

[balmy stone]

It’s a lot easier to dispatch an oppressor than hold a point with endless bug waves and downed teammates

This method is especially useful when you have limited ammo cause you fight fewer bugs when you don’t have to restart hacksy and you can focus more on groups than single targets

[limpid pond]

Exploders hit through the platform too. Should you be expected to insta-dispose of every single Oppressor and headshot every Exploder just to make an "easy" hack?

[balmy stone]

Exploders don’t necessarily target hacksy

[limpid pond]

If Hacksy ever goes down, you have to destroy the set up to set him back up, and that'll only cause more trouble trying to build it back while being attacked

[balmy stone]

Throwing down a shield to block them fixes the problem when they do

I use 3-4 platforms tops

Easy to patch up

[limpid pond]

You're better off just, clearing the area and making a Repellant roof as usual instead of trying to do a cute gimmick that kills the mission if any terrain destroying enemies show up

[balmy stone]

I don’t use it every single hacking event but it has its uses

You can still clear the area and make repellant plats to funnel bugs to chokepoints but there’s an extra layer of defense if they get through

[ashen veldt]

sweet

should any terraforming be done on driller's end?

[balmy stone]

I usually drill up and use c4 on hanging stuff like crystals that enemies can walk down and drill stuff that blocks line of fire

Making an arena/leveling out the area can’t hurt

[violet warren]

Ah, the joy of blind picking a cryo+cooker build into the EDD

Even with ice spear I basically just had to get carried through the bossfight by the three gunners on the team

[stoic dew]

Are there dps checks on caretaker?

[midnight musk]

what is the point in having 2 deep-dive if you can only get cores from one?

[soft prairie]

No dps checks BUT there are many times where you gotta kill quickly in order to make sure you live

Like bomb phase for example

[midnight musk]

Hey we now have elite DD
Cool, do you get better cores?
No
More cores?
No
Ok...cool

[stoic dew]

?

what are u on about, you get cores from both normal and elite deep dive

[midnight musk]

but not both

[stoic dew]

yes, both. If you complete all of normal deep dive you get a blank core, weapon core and cosmetic core
If you complete all of elite deep dive (even after completing all of normal deep dive) you get the same rewards

[midnight musk]

no you don't

[soft prairie]

Yes you do, you can't repeat the same deep dive and get more reward but dd and edd both have different but same rewards

[midnight musk]

....same rewards, which means if you complete one you dont get any from the other

[soft prairie]

That's not how that works my man

[midnight musk]

you get 3 cores from DD

[soft prairie]

And you get the other 3 from edd

[stoic dew]

Go to deep dive right now, and you see a 1 2 3 on both elite and normal deep dives, if they are colored, then youve completed your deep dives for the week on that difficulty

[midnight musk]

I just did DD and got 3 now I'm doing EDD and they are all greyed out and are the same as DD

[stoic dew]

so after u completed a mission from elite deep dive, you did not recieve a core?

[midnight musk]

this is not rocket science.

[left sleet]

Bait

[stoic dew]

Hard bait

[midnight musk]

I did deep dive and got 3 cores
I'm now doing elite deep dive and they are the same ones greyed out

which MEANS, you only get 3 from either DD or EDD not 6

[stoic dew]

Good luck on your drg adventure bro

[bold maple]

false

both deep dives provide their own set of cores

[midnight musk]

then I must have done something wrong 😦

[brave lodge]

maybe you have every core

[midnight musk]

nah, I'm just tired....

[torpid solar]

Even if you have every core, you still get 4 blank cores and 2 mineral container cores

[ashen veldt]

Who can I solo the EDD as?

[bold maple]

any class

[ashen veldt]

Yeah but what works best

[bold maple]

whatever youre most comfortable with/invested the most resources into

[brave lodge]

what matters is ur build

as long as its varied its good

if u wanna narrow it down ig sometimes solo gunners complain abt tall pits bc they are hard to zipline out of

[tacit ravine]

I haven't tried the EDD yet. I'm about to do it at the last minute, as usual. Hoping I don't have to solo it 😄

Sounds like the second stage is pretty rough.

[dusky mauve]

Second stage is just haz 5 IS and with a good layout for it aswell

[proper dew]

no clue what's going on buddy

normally, there is suppose to be 3 cores you get from deep dives and 3 from deep dives (which don't cancel each other out)

once weekly reset happens and it happens again, maybe report that bug

[glossy walrus]

I never trust in randos knowing the strats, so I always just do it myself and drill a tunnel into the ceiling to drop my c4. and it hasn't let me down, as no gunner or engie has ever set anything up for me

that it's a pita to type on console doesn't hurt either, and since driller can do it himself without issue it's all good

has a side benefit of making a nice funnel for if shredders spawn, since they'll all pack into that narrow little ceiling tunnel to get burned all at once

[midnight musk]

I got to 2nd stage for EDD...ofc its caretaker 😦

[tardy girder]

enjoy, that's one of the new changes made in S3

[midnight musk]

got one bar off caretaker before perm death...

ah well

[proper dew]

gotta get 'em next time

[midnight musk]

caretaker on EDD solo...probably not

bad rng with enemies too

exploders constantly

[glossy walrus]

it's not rng if it's exploder infestation

[midnight musk]

don't they randomize the infestations?

[glossy walrus]

it's fixed for the given week

you can look in the pins to see what this week's are

[maiden granite]

hiyo, maybe uts common question but can my unpromoted friend play with ne in deepdive, or he has to have promoted character to play with me?

[rustic yacht]

everyone in a DD party needs to be promoted

[maiden granite]

damn, okie thanks for quick reply

[hollow citrus]

sabo in both DD and EDD this week, calling it

[sly kettle]

Oh, right. Season 3 comes to consoles today.

Then I don't have to keep the Deep Dive thread split up in two separate sections.

[wraith kraken]

When are the new deep dives

[halcyon ruin]

Just did first deep dive

[abstract fern]

W taker fr

[halcyon ruin]

The first mission was a bitch and we were starving for nitra the entire time but the other two were cake walks

[wraith kraken]

I failed the current EDD because of sabotage

[signal wagon]

I managed to get to stage 3 of the EDD

this week was a tough one though for sure

[sly kettle]

The Deep Dives should reset in an hour and 3 minutes.

[wraith kraken]

Ok

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[proper dew]

@midnight musk

reset is in one hour

maybe you'll be fixed, or an opportunity to report

[potent vector]

ok boys, repeat after me, "I hate sabotage."

[oblique glen]

I hate escort duty

done

[hollow pecan]

haz 5 caretaker feels like such a brick wall. every group I've had has absolutely gotten taken apart by it in the first phase.

had to explain strats to two different gold promoted players in the middle of stage 2 of the dive.

[potent vector]

when I'm playing sabotage, I had to remind myself that I'm playing DRG, not star wars bf2

[analog cloud]

True true but at least it's not salvage op

[fossil tulip]

🔜

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[oblique glen]

showtime

[honest tide]

now

[severe tusk]

Like with most everything else, the strategy vs. the Caretaker is to not get hit and to shoot the glowy bits.

[candid bobcat]

haunted cave 💀

[oblique glen]

low o2 :)

[quiet mortar]

Dives should be the same between Platforms now
(Be sure to restart your game!)

DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Corroded Hell
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen
Stage 2: Industrial Sabotage + 150 Morkite | No Mutators
Stage 3: Refine Liquid Morkite + 2 Eggs | Rival Presence Low Gravity

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Xehn's Dusk
Stage 1: 200 Morkite + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Haunted Cave
Stage 2: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 150 Morkite | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + 1 Black Box | Rival Presence

[candid bobcat]

edd s1 is hiveguard

[sly kettle]

Haunted Cave :C

[candid bobcat]

edd stage 2: 3 mules, 150 morkite, cave leech cluster

[potent vector]

so fast, already on stage 2

[fossil tulip]

DD Stage 2: Sabotage + 150 Morkite + no modifiers

[candid bobcat]

testing stuff in sandbox

[fossil tulip]

DD Stage 3: Refinery + 2 Eggs + Rival Presence and Low Gravity

[candid bobcat]

EDD stage 3: 4 eggs, blackbox, rival presence

thanks i hate it

[wraith kraken]

Blackbox?

[candid bobcat]

yeah

[wraith kraken]

Whats that

[spare verge]

any nemesis spawn?

[candid bobcat]

secondary objective, it's like refuel or uplink

[sly kettle]

Like guarding the refueling pod in a Salvage mission.

[wraith kraken]

So mules without the mules

[scarlet oar]

The uplink defense from salvage as a side objective

[candid bobcat]

that depends on your particular roll (i.e. if you get lucky or not, or too lucky 😉 )

[wraith kraken]

I see

[sly kettle]

Unlike the Salvage objective, you don't lose the Deep Dive if you abandon it.

Which is nice. Cause I've had bulk detonators spawn in my face when doing them..

[wraith kraken]

So you are allowed to fail the refuel and uplink?

[sly kettle]

No. Reverse.

Failing an uplink/refuel makes you lose the mission

Failing a black box let's you retry.

[wraith kraken]

Ah

[potent vector]

double rival presence + IS, is this s2?

[karmic rain]

the season 2 deep dive yo

[marsh quest]

Haunted cave

Eww cringe

[quiet wyvern]

Yay, ghost boi back for revenge

Better move quick with him in that lvl

Least it's stage 1 and not 3, having a ghost where a black box is, truly sucks

[wraith shard]

this week's EDD is pretty easy

at least compared to the one last week

[hollow citrus]

nem on stage 3 DD, can be annoying

[wraith shard]

the last week's edd was something else

[crisp eagle]

industrial sabotage was already a pain in the ass

[wraith shard]

to management, please make sabotage easier

[sterile scaffold]

it's easy

lot of nitra

[flint mesa]

[sharp smelt]

managed to beat my first deep dive
but damn last weeks was literally hell esp the last stage
well this weeks was kinda too...

at least till the ricval stuffs gone

[mint iris]

Every time i tried a EDD (elite deep dive)
I always lost on the last few seconds where the drop pod comes

And yes i played with full teams

[wraith shard]

i got 2 bulks on stage 2

at once

[wraith shard]

damn, unlucky

we never got a nemesis on the third stage, it was a breeze

[lofty frigate]

how bad is this week's deep dive overall? it features the two areas i absolutely dislike so i'm not thrilled by it

[wraith shard]

not bad at all, i got through both first try, the EDD felt more like a regular deep dive to me

[shy moat]

met nemesis on stage 3 but the pathing is easy once the area is clear

[wraith kraken]

What beer is recommended for this weeks dives

[lofty frigate]

sounds doable for me, i'll give it a shot in a few days

[mint iris]

Can someone help me with the deepdives

[plucky warren]

leaflover

[wraith kraken]

I see I see

[hollow citrus]

best beer is probs red rock, or tunnel rat or slayer or skull crusher

[wraith shard]

reported

[lime meteor]

[plucky warren]

[solid haven]

whats stage 2 EDD for today?

[solid haven]

oh nvm, thanks for this

[wraith shard]

How's the standard dive this week?

Oh it don't look too bad

'cept stage 3 rival presence

Any console or windows folk down to run it at about 5pm CST?

[heavy lance]

no stage 3 lethal enemies 😌

[restive trout]

Where is the morkite in DD stage 1?

Blasted Azur Weald. Even a scout cant illuminate that foliage.

[outer bloom]

There's 3 large veins at the bottom of the cave. 2 of them are right next to the lowest egg

[restive trout]

Found em. Thanks.

Blasted Azur Weald.

[stoic dew]

so glad care taker isnt on EDD this week

[lethal stratus]

So true

[wraith kraken]

someone s player level 9 and already promoted what

[lime meteor]

Yes that's normal

💀

[lime meteor]

You get first promo by like level 10 wdym

[woeful niche]

3 class levels = player level so this sounds normal i think

[wraith kraken]

I guess

[woeful niche]

it just means they focused on one class which is fine

first promo is the most important anyways so they can start doing dives and getting cores

[wraith shard]

personally, red rock blasters probably would be insanely helpful for the edd, its got salvage as second stage and it ain't pretty

for normal dd, idk

[grave narwhal]

Happy to say I was never downed during this week's EDD. Please watch, like and subscribe to help a smol channel grow. 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ik5ydkjJ9k

[kind nacelle]

There's no in game way to check Deep Dive times against other people, right?

[vague sentinel]

just a quick question... i have that super speed OC on my engi grenade launcher. and now im wondering... in T3 of its upgrade tree i have the choice between armor breaking and more speed

does this OC mean more speed= more damage? or is the armor cracking better ?

[bold maple]

Take the t3a

[vague sentinel]

that fire thing?

[bold maple]

Armor break is really bad on it and proj speed contributes nothing, it even makes the shots not work sometimes

The fire one has no downside, there's no reduced damage

It's a free on fire effect

[vague sentinel]

so fire instead. and more speed changes nothing in this case damagewise?

[bold maple]

Correct

[vague sentinel]

ok ty

[bold maple]

The fire is free on hyperprop

Compared to base pgl

[vague sentinel]

👍

[lethal stratus]

Uh bello?

[grave narwhal]

Sorry I didn't get that. I have a stupid question: What does 'bello' mean?

[lethal stratus]

Its just how minions say hello

[charred raven]

not many people doing elite deep dives apparently

been hosting for a while and nobody has joined

[random oyster]

Deep Dive session ruined because I got booted due to a connection error and wasn't given a way back in

[unique ore]

I mean, it is a weekday during school/work hours

[mystic grove]

this EDD is scuffed

stage 3 spawn and leeches, stage 1 dread+ghost, stage 2 leeches and HUNDREDS of swarmer eggs

man

[violet mauve]

The moment I saw the Hiveguard pop out while being chased by the Unknown Horror I knew "This is gonna suck."

[mystic grove]

yes

just

yes

also, we had a cryo driller, but honestly after all this a flamer might have been better

[violet mauve]

Honestly I don't think I'll even bother with this one.

Playing solo to fight a Hiveguard WHILE a Horror is chasing me is the definition of anti-fun.

[lethal stratus]

Oh boy I cant wait to do this weeks edd

[mystic grove]

check #drg-gallery how many times my team died. It's horrific, and we only got to stage 3 because we had 3 IWs and I was on intense revive duty, always on 0-1 shield

[violet mauve]

It's also funny.

Last week's DD was horrendous for solo and I don't know how I'd even have solved it as my usual Engineer (I was Scout for a change). Meanwhile my regular Engineer build got me through the EDD like nothing, only 1 death.

This week? Solo Gunner on the DD under an hour, but the EDD seems one of the most painful in quite some time.

That said I did have a Nemesis and a Bulk on stage 3.

[woeful niche]

more speed will make the shot sometimes go through enemies and do nothing when ur on high ping

[grave narwhal]

oh lol. hello there. 🙂 If you liked the vid, don't forget to subscribe and help raise my staggeringly high number of 19 subscribers. xD

[random oyster]

Stage 3 EDD is an absolute dumpster fire

further cementing why Rival Presence will always suck

[atomic current]

no

[mystic grove]

Leeches, snipers, turrets, all in a cranped af space, with 3 spitballers in front of the pod? Hahahahahahahhaha

No

[violet warren]

Nitra was pretty tight in my team's EDD on the second stage, and on the third stage I was last dwarf standing several times

Me digging up every last nitra vein as the scout was pretty helpful overall

[mystic grove]

Nitra is tight, yeah

[wraith shard]

aaaaa

[wraith shard]

this deep dive is heck on earth

[orchid stratus]

Gotta say the reg deep dive this week is super fun

especially the final stage

low gravity on a refining mission is just

[polar kayak]

Was it just me or was the elite this time around way harder than normal

[safe gulch]

Wait what the... unless I was incredibly drunk

I clearly did the deep dive yesterday, it was at Magma Core and I got full three matrix cores

But today it's Azure Weald?

[woeful niche]

today is thursday

it switched

[safe gulch]

Yeah, which is weird... I'm pretty damn sure it was two hours after refresh time

Unless someone kept the Deep Dive mission from last week into the new week, and somehow I'm getting rewarded twice

Possible bug, or am I just going crazy from space Covid?

[grim hull]

the new EDD is a breath of fresh air after last week, plenty of nitra, fun maps, fun warnings (especially stage 2's leeches), cleared it first try!

[charred raven]

for a first deep dive i had a great time

very cool

[echo storm]

we had rocky mountain and the gunner almost throw the dive by digging straight down during the comm section

[hazy scarab]

all this edd has taught me is that biozone is unplayable

[charred raven]

i just hate the little electric guys

[balmy stone]

At least it isn’t hollow bough

[charred raven]

hollow bough is at least cool

[hazy scarab]

played in a duo

stage 2 was just killing leeches

we also had a bulk spawn on us on black box in stage 3

[lusty shuttle]

Hollow Bough has goo sacks.

[stoic dew]

gun down whoever approved of last week's EDD

[wraith shard]

it was insane

[wraith shard]

they were hitting me through the wall while i dug to the second cave on level 1

[polar kayak]

at one point in the second stage, i had 2 bulks and an oppressor at once

[echo storm]

ya second stage was a little funny

[spring herald]

my team completely ignored the rival presence on map 3. Just went straight to the box and pulled eggs with driling from there because they were pretty close. I didn't even have to kill a turret.

[grim ibex]

Got a nemesis really early on stage 3 DD if that matters

[drifting parrot]

is this EDD as easy as it seems to be?

[wraith shard]

Bulk on stage 2 is a little annoying. Otherwise it's pretty easy