babelfish-lounge

[dry cradle]

Deep Rock Galactic update rolls out

no localization update

[swift pilot]

Lmao

[fluid thistle]

Did postscript on accessories name "Temp", means that later name will changed and in translate no need to write that postscript?

[shell vine]

This is probably some text the devs used during their design process, as those strings don't show in-game. You can translate it if you want (I just left it there)

[fluid thistle]

oh, okay, thank you!

[fluid thistle]

How to decrypt "PCF"? It's mod on DRAK-25 Plasma Carbine.
Is it, like, Plasma Carbine Focus?

[gleaming pecan]

In some engineering languages "PCF" means "Per Cubic Foot"

But "Overcharged Per Cubic Foot" wouldn't make much sense

@fluid thistle How about "Projectile Containment Field"?

Considering the mod is described as "The projectiles carry excess charge distributed across the containment field giving a small chance to electrocute the target on impact."

Overcharged PCF = Overcharged Projectile Containment Field

[slim verge]

what's the context ?

[gleaming pecan]

To the right of my cursor

Though I'll admit that it could be "Plasma Containment Field"

But either seem plausible

[slim verge]

Projectile Containment Field or Plasma Containment field yeah

[gleaming pecan]

You can also use the Experimental Plasma Charger as another instance of this wording, as there is a mod called "Thin Containment Field"

Without official confirmation I'd say that PCF is "Plasma Containment Field" if we cross reference materials from the Experimental Plasma Charger

[fluid thistle]

Ok, Experimental Plasma Charger sounds good, I'll use it.
Thank you!

[gleaming pecan]

It's a fun weapon, it's not exactly the perfect damage dealer but you can mod it to cut materials out of the walls for you

And the plasma carbine for the scout can be a lifesaver primary to use with a high damage secondary weapon

Glad to help

[fluid thistle]

what is a Sludge blast charged shot?
it's a shot that leaves something on the floor?

[gleaming pecan]

Aye, basically the Sludge Pump's general usage is to create toxic waste blobs all over the place

A charged shot, without OverClocks, explodes into a splatter of goo

In multiple directions

WITH overclocks it can do some crazy stuff, such as firing like a shotgun, or even doing what a Goo Bomber does and rain the sludge on enemies from above

To answer your question specifically, a charged shot with the Sludge Pump means you held down primary fire before firing, using up some extra ammo to make a stronger shot

[slim verge]

A charged shot is like a ball of goo exploding on impact
Sludge blast is just shooting multiple ball, like a shotgun

btw @fluid thistle don't hesitate to check out the wiki/youtube if you need more details/need videos of stuff. Sometimes, one picture/video if better than words

[fluid thistle]

Okay, I'll go take a look

Where the phrase "Clear all lights" is used in game? it's about clear point of laser pointer?

[slim verge]

Can you give me the context for the string ? Just to be clear, when I mean context, I mean that :

[fluid thistle]

here

[slim verge]

thanks !
you can ignore that

[fluid thistle]

strange... well, OK

[slim verge]

Anything related to "MovieMode" is not something that's actually used ingame, as far as I know, it's dev related only. Not sure why it's on crowdin but it is 😄

[fluid thistle]

How translate this??

HS.YPB2021

is that an abbreviation?

[slim verge]

Holiday Season Yearly Performance Bonus 2021

[dry cradle]

That's an assignment abbreviation. Leave as is

[slim verge]

so yeah, abbreviation

[dry cradle]

Just an in-game identifier

[slim verge]

just put the capitals that would make sense in your language

and you're good

[fluid thistle]

ooooh, how long

Ok

[dry cradle]

You don't need to translate all of that into the abbreviation, since it's just an identifier lol

[fluid thistle]

what about "manual cooldown delay"?
I think it's recharge delay, but what means "manual", performing by hand?

[dry cradle]

What's the context?

[dry cradle]

Shit not much

My guess would be the plasma carbine, but I'm not sure

[fluid thistle]

Maybe that makes more sense?

[fluid thistle]

Who know what a "sandbox" save means?

it's just a name of the save type?

[dry cradle]

A sandbox save is for sandbox mods

Sandbox mods are mods that affect gameplay, rewards, etc

[fluid thistle]

what is a Retrieve bolt?
He returning after hit?
He penetrate through enemies?

He can be picked up after hit?

[dry cradle]

What's the context again?

[dry cradle]

Oh, the crossbow. That was a prototype weapon, it's not in the game. But yea, it's just an action

Maybe picking the bolt after missing, if we follow the same logic as the impact axes

[fluid thistle]

ahhh, good ability, wanna see crossbow in scout hands

[dry cradle]

Probably when there's a new primary weapon drop. Which is really low in the todo list, since this season got to have that lol

[autumn musk]

@shell vine any news on the localisation not making it into the most recent build? I'm just curious :)

[shell vine]

Both of the "manual" strings can be ignored, as they are related to dev tools and don't appear in the game

[fluid thistle]

Thank you!

[rotund forge]

[dry cradle]

@rotund forge you seem to want to translate to polish, right?

[rotund forge]

Yes that's correct

[dry cradle]

Then

In that case

You just need to create an account in crowdin

You can translate drg on https://crowdin.com/project/deep-rock-galactic

It's free, and you start when you want to lol

[rotund forge]

Cool, I'll check it out

I do a bit of translation in my spare time and have done stuff like this before so why not

[dry cradle]

Also, there's a pinned msg here with each language's translators

While we're at it

<@&296918282403840000> my gud frens, can one of you give @rotund forge the polish channel role please :)

[buoyant dagger]

BANNED HIM FOR YA

[rotund forge]

[dry cradle]

O FUG-

@rotund forge you should have now access to the polish translators channel

[slim verge]

noooooooooooo

[rotund forge]

Anyway I need to get back to work but I'll be off work in a few hours and will check things out. And yes I do have access thanks

[swift pilot]

Admin a-b-u-s-e

[buoyant dagger]

I do use my abs regularly

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sport-fitness-fit-fat-gif-7720487

[fluid thistle]

Hello mates, just want to ask, if not proofed translation will be complete, it will be released on PS consoles?

[shell vine]

That's a complicated answer to give, give me a minute or two please

[shell vine]

For what language, by the way ?

[fluid thistle]

Russian

[shell vine]

There are two parts to this question, so let me detail a bit :

• When/How does a new language is made available in the game ?
  FOR STEAM/XBOX : In the option menu, under the language selection, some languages have a "work in progress" tag. Some of the languages available for translation on crowdin are not even present in the game.
  To have a language in the game, it needs to pass a threshold of translation on the main folder of the game (not the patch notes), and it will then be included in the live branch with the work in progress tag. Once a language is entirely - or very close to be- translated, the tag is removed.
  FOR THE PS : There are additional requirements to authorise the first release of a language to the game on that console, as Sony will review the language first, and they expect some of the proprietary terms that can be used (for example, DualSense controller) to be translated in very specific ways.
  The legal related strings (disclaimers, how aggregated data is used, etc.) also need to translated - but Sony does not have a mandatory way to translate those texts, you just need to try and keep the meaning as close as possible to the original.

• What is the influence of proofeading on the inclusion of a language ?
  The short answer is none.
  The real answer is that a language does not need to be proofread to be added to the game, so long as it has passed the initial requirements stated above, once it is added to the build, the system will automatically include the translation for strings, if available, from crowdin.
  It follows this order to choose if more than one suggestions have been made for the same string : Approved > Highest vote count > most recent

I hope this could answer your question (sorry for the delay, had to get some details first)

[fluid thistle]

Yes, it's answer the question.
Did you know, where exactly need to be that proprietary terms, in settings?

where they used in the original translation?

[dry cradle]

Can we pin this one, please?

Just for easy referral

[exotic vine]

So

The translation for "Common Rock" is misspelled in Hungarian

but it appears like 30 different times

should i submit a correction for each of these?

[slim verge]

yeah

[exotic vine]

alright

[boreal quest]

Don't trust the Pounce to give sound advice.

[shell vine]

I don't have that perm, you should ask a mod for that

[dry cradle]

I was kinda directing that to mods lol

I know you don't have those

[shell vine]

You should search for "sony" "ps" and "playsation" on crowdin, you should find them like that

[swift pilot]

This error happens to you?

Now all servers appear as "close", no matter if they are from Antarctica.

[gray arrow]

hello my friend asks why not transfer the finished Russian translation of the game from pc and xbox to playstation?

[slim verge]

yeah, it's a common bug atm

[slim verge]

#babelfish-lounge message

[slim verge]

@frozen inlet could you pin this message ☝️ pretty please ? ^^

[slim verge]

thank you

[autumn musk]

Another update and still no translations, unfortunately. Do you happen to know anything, @shell vine?

[shell vine]

I haven't seen any update since the one before yesterday, but I did ask then if they could make sure to pull in the translations in the next one.
As far as I know, the guy in charge of making the builds is currently swamped with the fixes for the PS network issues, and translations are low priority in between major updates

[autumn musk]

Oh right. I've heard about those issues! Thanks for letting us know it's still on their radar but that other things are currently (much!) more important :)

[small kernel]

@swift pilot It's a bug, I already reported

[sage tangle]

I remember the time when the same 6 people wrote in here and if you didn't answer the chat was scrolling up a page a week.
Now I have to read through multiple pages a day in here.
Questionable happy translator noises? 😄

Stop writing so much, translate more!

[dry cradle]

No, we'll go on a strike

[sage tangle]

||nobody speaks or reads pt language anyways, whatever that is supposed to be in the first place||

[dry cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/homero-simpson-out-d-oh-gif-15451551

Jokes on you; pt-br has 200mil speakers

Get oof'd

[swift pilot]

Noice

[autumn musk]

Dutch has reached 100% 🥳

The quality has also been improved massively in the past weeks

I'm not entirely satisfied with it yet, but we've come a long way!

@shell vine any chance of getting Dutch approved for consoles?

[shell vine]

Unfortunately, as I explained here #babelfish-lounge message, the approval for the PS is subject to restrictions from Sony, and we are still waiting on the specifics for those.
If Dutch has reached 100%, I'll pester them a bit more for the language to be included in a build, so you can check your work, and it will be included in the steam version. I'm sure the devs will review Dutch for general upload, and then submit it to Sony so that they can review it. If it passes the Sony review, it will then be added to the next PS build

[autumn musk]

I wonder if the quality is deemed high enough yet, I guess we'll see! :)

[shell vine]

There are no real quality checks, apart from the players.
Sony will only check that you comply with guidelines, but they did not make those public

[swift pilot]

Do you think it is planned to incorporate all the recent translations for PC in the next season?

Speaking exclusively of the Steam version.

[shell vine]

That's a certainty

Steam and WS/Xbox are on the same basis for the localization, they get the same updates on that front

I would like to get the tranlsations in the game before the next season, so new translators like Pindaboter can see their work

[swift pilot]

That's a sure thing, for Latin American Spanish all the strings are updated and with corrections. But since these latest Hotfix have not been incorporated, I had that doubt in mind.

[shell vine]

It's more that the ones doing the hotfixes are not the same devs that make the regular builds, so they forgot to include the translations in

[swift pilot]

I understand. Can it be that translations from one similar language to another are mixed up?

For example, in Spanish Spain the Operation Salvage mission is translated as "Operación de Rescate", but in Latin American Spanish it was decided to call it "Operación de Salvamento".
Now both translations have the same name as the Spanish version of Spain. And in Crowdin I noticed that no one changed the name of the mission in Latin American Spanish.

[shell vine]

let me check

This is indeed weird. Could you check for other strings that are supposed to be different between both languages ?

[swift pilot]

I will try to find. But I only found the one I mentioned before.

And it's weird, the strings always had separate names in both versions.

[swift pilot]

When I discovered that error, that's when I also saw the server filters error.

already reported

[regal elk]

so

hello all my good translator friends

as im back into the game (and into the translating), I would appreciate if someone could explain to me how to set up a translators branch in the game

the thingy that allows me to see my work on a daily basis

[sage tangle]

its currently not working properly, and GSG is busy with the Playstation stuff. We haven't actually shared it publicly yet, as it still makes problems at the moment and isn't longterm reliable yet.

[regal elk]

ah

oki

ty for the response <3

[sage tangle]

Once it is, we want it to be publicly pickable in the 'Beta' tab on steam.

[regal elk]

ahhh ok

I know how to do it then

will we get a notification in here?

or maybe on the website?

[sage tangle]

dunno what the official dev plans are for that, personally as translator I'd love something like that for awareness.

But yes we (old time translators) will make sure it penetrates the whole active translator community.

[regal elk]

ah also

I cant translate the "Engineer"

it looks set or something, it has no test language value

[small kernel]

Search for "Engineer" word on crowdin

[boreal quest]

It's probably going to be one of these.

[regal elk]

and found it, imagine that haha

some of the strings got reseted?

[small kernel]

maybe months ago

[boreal quest]

I think it's just that the testing language is a bit iffy.

[shell vine]

The debug language has some problems at this moment, some of it's strings are not working anymore...

[swift pilot]

Like this?

@shell vine

[shell vine]

Might be, but we can only wait for the devs to have more time on their hands to look into it.

[autumn musk]

Are there plans to prune unused strings from Crowdin?

[shell vine]

I'm not sure it's done in an organised fashion, and I don't think it will be considered as long as the game continues to receive new content

Especially since its better to have an unused string on crowdin than not have a used one there

[autumn musk]

I know this is being done/considered in Satisfactory, at least. But good to know it's not something to count on right now :)

[hard sky]

https://ghostshipgames.atlassian.net/browse/DRG-4463

Does anyone know if this is still an issue?

It looks fine in the engine, so I'm thinking it has already been fixed?

[fresh wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/626997595952381953/932360141637042287/unknown.png

today like 16 hours ago

[hard sky]

Hold up...

The string is "hidden" in crowdin for some reason

That explains it

I wonder how to unhide it.

[fresh wharf]

also the same guy reported this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/626997595952381953/932370267739676713/unknown.png

[shell vine]

(Vasquez is a bit our "I'm gonna catch them all" guy for string errors ^^)

[hard sky]

I'll fix them

[hard sky]

No clue why that one isn't translated... Also look fine in engine...

And it also shows up as translated on Crowdin

Is it showing up in English on all languages?

[dry cradle]

VASQUEZMON

GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL

[fresh wharf]

french

german is good

italian too

japanese is not

[hard sky]

wtf

Maybe it's because a proofreader hasn't approved the other translations?

I can't remember how Crowdin works in that regard

[fresh wharf]

french string is approved

though it only was 18 days ago by Pounce

german is not approved

but still works

[hard sky]

Can you check the translator build?

[fresh wharf]

already going

[hard sky]

the 18 days might explain why it's not in yet

[fresh wharf]

french is working

russian too

and japanese too

so whatever it was it's fixed in translators

but 'direct' is still there

[fresh wharf]

I thought it doesn't need to be approved to get into the game and not to be bugged out or smth

[hard sky]

You're probably right

I'm not entirely sure how it all works in Crowdin

https://crowdin.com/translate/deep-rock-galactic/77/en-da#199624

Fixed - translate "Direct" here

[fresh wharf]

translated

[small kernel]

Yeah I reported that in here for "direct": https://ghostshipgames.atlassian.net/browse/DRG-4463

Then we'll close the issue I guess

@hard sky Also can you check this? https://ghostshipgames.atlassian.net/browse/DRG-3716

[hard sky]

That's a Steam Presence issue, right?

[small kernel]

Yes

[hard sky]

That's @sterile girder's specialty. But he's very busy with PlayStation stuff at the moment, so it will probably be a while before he gets around to it

[shell vine]

Crowdin works in two phases : you (The devs) choose what files of the game to push towards the platform (or exclude, not sure which way it goes), crowdin receives the strings and seems an email to all translators.
Second phase is the build, when one of you guys asks crowdin to send back a compiled list of translations per language (the .po file), which can them be included in the build engine on your side, and are added too the game at that time.
If a string has a proposed translation on crowdin, the site will include it in the .po file, regardless of approval, vote, etc. Those only determine which suggestion for a specific string is included in the .po file (There can only be one, after all).
If no translation had been suggested for a string when a dev builds the project, crowdin will put back the original one instead.

The debug language (when not broken) is a good way to know if a string is translatable or not, since I have proofreader access to input the codes, so I can also see the hidden strings. The only problem is that the game builds are often done right after pushing a fresh batch of strings to crowdin, so the new strings will likely not be translated when the build is done minutes later.

Right now, the live branch has not been updated translation wise for a while because the last two or three patches did not include a crowdin pull, and the translation build is a couple days late, but has a completely broken debug language.

Meant to reply to the message about crowdin right above, sorry

[hard sky]

Thanks for the explanation, Azerty!

[sage tangle]

You're very pretty and a good person, and the sun shines upon you.

[swift pilot]

Will a string be added to the Rival Tech DLC page in the future? It is the only DLC that I would need to complete the entire list for Latin American Spanish.

[shell vine]

A string for what ?

[swift pilot]

A string for the translation of the Rival Tech DLC on the Steam page***

[shell vine]

On steam ?

[swift pilot]

Yep, all DLC have a string in the SteamPage.csv section, except Rival Tech DLC

[shell vine]

I'll add a Jira for it.

[shell vine]

Done
https://ghostshipgames.atlassian.net/browse/DRG-4979

[fluid thistle]

how important is the translation of patch notes?
I mean do we need to translate it to release the defined language on the console as soon as possible?

[dry cradle]

I'd say they're needed for full release

Since Sony doesn't approve untranslated languages

[shell vine]

I'll ask for details on that

[gray arrow]

A little question: Does Crowdin delete innactive accounts? I was away a couple weeks during Christmas and now, when I try to join, tells me my username is invalid. I'd swear I'm writing the name right, I wrote it down on paper when I made that account. Now I don't know if I made a mistake, and got the name wrong, or if my account got deleted for being too innactive.

[hard sky]

Not to my knowledge.

[autumn musk]

I don't know of any service that deletes your account for inactivity without first giving you multiple warnings via the email address that you registered the account with.

[shell vine]

It should not

[shell vine]

The Jira for DRG does this, because the devs pay the service pet active account, so they deactivate unused accounts

[sage tangle]

Addition, Jain.
Deactivate = ! delete.
You can still log on but do nothing.
And no, Crowdin does not delete accounts @gray arrow

[autumn musk]

Big update! Unfortunately still no localisation changes.

https://tenor.com/view/sad-walk-of-shame-shame-shameful-head-down-gif-5548725

Waiting for the next one and hoping that the devs have sorted most of the high prio issues!

[shell vine]

@hard sky Look at what you did, Pindaboter's sad now :(

[autumn musk]

To be honest, I'm mostly looking forward to see what strings I still need to fix, haha

[autumn musk]

Dutch is technically at 100%, but there's still a lot left to fix

[pure goblet]

Do we have any discord options for Spanish speakers? New member joined they may need a directory to a chat they can understand.
Side note i may be jumping the gun they've only said hello and introduced themselves

[autumn musk]

I saw one in #fan-communities

[gray arrow]

@sage tangle Thank you all for the awnsers. I'll need to reset my password, then.

[dry cradle]

dammit i was gonna comment against the scammer

[dry cradle]

Did I get a ping here?

[boreal quest]

I got one too. Someone's being funny again.

[dry cradle]

"al picca picca jiro"...?

tf is that lol

[shell vine]

<@&296918282403840000> Thanks

[lean pulsar]

Well, I'm interested in translating to Swedish, wondering if there's something I need to do or if I just go to crowdin and start

[slim verge]

you can just jump in Crowdin and start translating

if you got any questions, feel free to ask

[lean pulsar]

this might include more proofreading than expected

[fresh wharf]

https://ghostshipgames.atlassian.net/browse/DRG-4939

I don't see that string

and this one too
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/626997595952381953/934785947340521552/unknown.png

[small kernel]

Most likely it will be added in the next big update

@lean pulsar Swedish language is translated 35% for now, you can start for translation in Crowdin if you're interested

[shell vine]

This indicates when the fix will be live

[fresh wharf]

ok, I just pointed that there's similar string absent too

[lean pulsar]

doing that

[winged pine]

Hey, so I think I could do some translations but I'm not sure how Crowdin works.
Do i have to write the whole string down or just the translation?

[mellow topaz]

In the crowdin UI, the string to be translated is on the top. You write the translation into the bottom field. Just don't translate anything inside [square brackets].

Check out some of the already translated strings if you want reference.

[winged pine]

Ok, thanks for the help

[jolly scroll]

Uhh, is it how it's supposed to be? I can see that it's for the Magma core mission milestone thingy, but why is it doubled?

[shell vine]

No idea why it is doubled, let me ask @hard sky if it's normal or a bug?

[raw storm]

Oh Btw I forgot to ask you Azerty if the Mod patch in french for DRG was actually approuved or not

I haven't received feedback from Ser Pounce and I know he hasn't been feeling well lately

[dry cradle]

i think you can check on crowdin if it was approved or not

the strings with a checkmark are set as approved

[raw storm]

Oh, Ser Pounce posted it with the corrections last month and approved his post

i'm surprised he didn't tell me

Thanks Poker though

[shell vine]

He won't notifie people when he reviews submissions, he often works in batches, and that would add a lot of work for him.

[raw storm]

Oh, I just wanted to be sure that my work was fine, where to improve, if it was taken into account stuff like that

From what I've seen its mostly unedited so thats a good sign

[shell vine]

Can we help you ?

[prime sonnet]

Im sorry I misclicked wont happen again

[shell vine]

@frozen inlet hello, sorry for the ping, but could you unpin the last message that was pinned, and pin instead the one linked in it?

[shell vine]

No worries

[lean pulsar]

Well, we got some new strings regarding something that will happen soon

Maybe

[swift pilot]

New strings to traslate in DRG!

[slim verge]

Yeah sorry, I usually don't notify people after submission as Azerty said, but I'll try to give you some feedback if I can !
That won't be before some times though, I'm fairly busy as of late 😄

Your work on the patchnotes was great btw, I don't remember having to change a lot of stuff so props to you

[raw storm]

Thank you ! I'll try to keep the same writing style as I go on with translation work

[kind shale]

Can someone send me a photo of the Widebrim hat?

[lean pulsar]

These new strings have some... interesting things in them

[swift pilot]

Paper crown... mmmhh

[shell vine]

Shhh, this is still spoiler material

[lean pulsar]

Aight, no mentioning the dreadnought steeves fellas

And absolutely nothing about the dlc overclocks

[shell vine]

<@&296918282403840000> Thanks

[kind shale]

Should it be translated? If so, what do the acronyms mean?

[fresh wharf]

||Holiday Season.Lunar Festival 2022||

[limber yarrow]

spoilers?

[fresh wharf]

sure

[hard sky]

doesn't look right

[hard sky]

"No context"

seems right

[lean pulsar]

We got a new string

44 words

Better get to work

It's regarding a certain thing that'll be soon

[autumn musk]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-yes-yeahhh-cute-girl-happy-dance-gif-14559695

The translations made it into the most recent update!

I'm so happy :D

Immediately notices a slew of strings that need improvement

@shell vine Please tell the dev that has been working his or her butt off for this update (and all the updates that took precedence) thank you!

[sage tangle]

We already did 😉

It's so useful

[shell vine]

Welcome to the club ^^

[autumn musk]

Honestly, that's what I was looking forward to most. I had done months of work and honestly couldn't remember what I had and hadn't done yet

So whenever I see something that needs improvement now I'm 100% sure that it needs doing :D

[sage tangle]

Debug language currently seems to put the season terminal to english...

[autumn musk]

I've heard things about a localisation build or something. Any news/info on what/who that is for?

[sage tangle]

This feature is in the works and not ready yet. Planned is to have you switch to 'translator build' (similar to public experimental) which is the same game, but with translations pulled daily from crowdin.
This way as translator you don't have to wait for another patch, but can see your progress each day and still play with people on the normal build. (There is no new content in, just a daily string refresh).
Will be made public once it works stable.

Which it does not at the moment, so no sense in public release yet.

[autumn musk]

That sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to hearing more about that when the time is right :)

[autumn musk]

How do you actually use the ingame debug strings in Crowdin? The only way I know now is to switch to the Debug language in crowdin, then search for the number, note the context and switch back to the language you want to translate. Surely there's an easier way?

[fresh wharf]

paste in url?

like I copied string url

https://crowdin.com/translate/deep-rock-galactic/77/en-ru#189702

that # must be number right?

[autumn musk]

I tried that, but it doesn't work

For example, if I try to look up #01184 (Gold) by changing that URL it:
A) Says the string couldn't be found
B) Changes the URL so that the supplied number is now a search query that won't match if you change back (so if it were to work you'd have to keep editing the original URL and pasting that back in)

Unless I'm missing something?

[fresh wharf]

well it's not working for me too

[autumn musk]

@sage tangle Does the fact that the update translations made it into the game mean that this has been integrated into the build system - that each update from now on will have updated translations? Or was this still manual?

[dry cradle]

that number isnt for the url part. if you search for that #(number) on the debug language for that translation, you'll get the correct string

[swift pilot]

Time to work

[swift pilot]

REALLY?

[shell vine]

YES !

[shell vine]

You have to search the complete ID (#12345) in the debug language on crowdin. Once it found the string, you can scroll down and look in the "other languages" tab (scroll underneath the suggested translations, TMs and MTs). You can then click the link (The name of your language) to get back to your language.

It's not ideal, but you should be aware that the debug language is something that is half maintained by the devs (for the in-game part) and half by Fakiyo and I (on crowdin), and it can sometimes suffer from this. There are plans to have entirely integrated to the game, but that not ready yet.

[shell vine]

No, the string IDs (the #12345 on crowdin and in the game) are 5 digit numbers that I manually - or with a script, in case of big string dumps - assign to each string on crowdin. The numbers in the urls are assigned automatically by crowdin and have nothing to do with it.

[fresh wharf]

yeah I saw you doing it

[lean pulsar]

Now that the devs mentioned the lunar event we can say "Moon" without being packed into pheromone canisters

Let's make this festival readable by everyone

[swift pilot]

Good luck traslators!

[pure goblet]

There's a new comer in drg chat asking about PS5 Russian translations. I told them that if it isnt already implemented it should be soon. Is there anything else I should pass on?

[shell vine]

It should come soon, once it has been reviewed to the satisfaction of Sony. Check the pinned messages for the full language release conditions.

[pure goblet]

I'll pass it on thanks!

[dry cradle]

i left a message on #suggestion-discussion about it a while ago, can you give me the message of it? im gonna reply to it

[autumn musk]

@shell vine maybe you can speak to this?

[swift pilot]

@shell vine Do you remember that error that I mentioned to you about the name of "salvage operation" being converted into Latin American Spanish as "operación de rescate" when it was always "operación de salvamento"? Well, it's still there.

[swift pilot]

But I think I know why it happens, there is an old string, from 3 years ago that contains the name "Operación de Rescate". I already translated it as it should be, maybe that's it.

[shell vine]

I don't have specific details on this update, but since this one is a content update (and they warned the translation team in a private channel a bit before it went live), the pull of the strings was expected and needed.
I do hope that an automated solution for the integration of crowdin strings to patch notes will happen, but this is still an incredible task to do, mainly because they have to be extremely careful not to include unreleased content in the automated pulls.

[autumn musk]

Of course. I'll just assume it'll take a while before it gets integrated into the build pipeline then. Thanks for the reply!

I really appreciate these insights!

[shell vine]

Could you check in-game the debug ID for those strings (in each language) ? That will allow us to pinpoint which one is troublesome, and to make an accurate bug report.

[swift pilot]

Yep, give me a few seconds

[swift pilot]

(Latam and spain): #07158

[shell vine]

Something's wrong here, there should be five digits

[swift pilot]

Oh sorry

#07158

[shell vine]

So, if I'm getting this right, both languages display it in game as Operación de Rescate ?

[swift pilot]

Yes

[shell vine]

I'll make a report for this then

[swift pilot]

Muchas gracias pibe!

[winged pine]

How does this whole approving thing work?
I've suggested lots of translations into Polish but no one is doing anything with them.

[winged pine]

Also, sorry if my question is dumb

[shell vine]

Mainly, approval is a process used to "lock" a suggestion as the 'right' one. It is available for proofreaders, but proofreader roles are given on languages where there is a need for that lock. I would recommend reading the latest pinned message, it has more details on the whole process.

[winged pine]

Okay, thanks 👍

[shell vine]

Took a bit of time because discord was down
https://ghostshipgames.atlassian.net/browse/DRG-5028

[lean pulsar]

Prediction master

Totally not related to the fact that I saw Crossbow in the new strings

[boreal quest]

You would've gone nuts during the "monorail" saga.

[lean pulsar]

Anywho

Let's not spoil anything, like gunners new secondary that's just a battleaxe

[limber yarrow]

Monorail saga lol

That made me laugh

[slim verge]

NEW PLANET ZONE

[dry cradle]

NEW PLANET ZONE?!

[sage tangle]

I translated DRG and all I got was a NEW PLANET ZONE

[dry cradle]

N E W P L A N E T Z O N E

i wonder

[slim verge]

yeah, good idea to remove that lol

[sage tangle]

man those accidential leaks, really careless of you

[dry cradle]

you think?

[swift pilot]

Can't you add other secret strings about next update?

[autumn musk]

Such a shame that the Lunar Festival related strings didn't come in time for them to be added to the update

That's a real bummer

I translated them the same day and still they're not in 😐

Meaning that the one-time message will be untranslated for everyone, basically

[dry cradle]

@native scaffold sorry for the ping, but I kinda asked fakiyo to reorganize the translation list and I'm going to ask if you are still translating in eu-pt

[dry cradle]

Since, well, you're not there, I can also add you to the list, if you're still planning on working in it, of course

[native scaffold]

hey

my life has been super busy

i go there like once or twice here and there

[dry cradle]

i understand that, i somewhat have been doing the same because of university

dont worry

if you still want to translate, just tell me, ill ask fakiyo to add you to the pinned list

[native scaffold]

as i said

[dry cradle]

its volunteer work, after all. youre not mandated to do that

[native scaffold]

i can translate here and there

[dry cradle]

so thats a "ill add you to the list" yes?

[native scaffold]

and i have been translating more lately than actualy playing XD

[native scaffold]

sure

[dry cradle]

lmao

[native scaffold]

since as you said it is volunterr

[light quest]

I am curious about what does the "Nishanka" in the X-Bow name means.

[slim verge]

nothing

it means nothing as far as I'm aware 😄

[light quest]

donno should I count it as Japanese name or English instead.

[slim verge]

Depends, for me it's a brand name so it's not to be translated

Well that's how we did it in french at least

[light quest]

Virtual brand name?

[slim verge]

yeah

Dunno if you decided to translate those

[light quest]

Decided though

[slim verge]

then keep on translating them I guess
But yeah, Nishanka has no signification apparently

[swift pilot]

Another nitro scam?

[light quest]

Looks like I missed something, at least its not something interesting 😛

[dry cradle]

you sure?

getting ip-grabbed by a scam pretty sure looks like a sweet deal

[light quest]

nah

[dry cradle]

then

i must convince you further

BRING ZE NITROEXPRESSLINKEN!

[light quest]

NO

[dry cradle]

Y E S

[light quest]

LeAV3 M3 A10N3!

[dry cradle]

1 W1LL N3V4H L34V3 Y0U 4L0N3 N0W

[light quest]

NOOOO

[small kernel]

[lean pulsar]

Soon they'll figure out that all we actually want is tree nitra

[swift pilot]

192.1.644.1.165

HACKING POD

[autumn musk]

🤓

[dry cradle]

Who is the most rocknstone? :)

free_nitra.drg

[dry cradle]

999.998.997.996

[swift pilot]

IP:192.1.644.165
Password:i_love_leafloverspecial
Ubication: mom house

[dry cradle]

IP: 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.0
Operating System: LeafLoverOS
Username: Scout
Password: not_rocknstone_at_all
Occupation: professional leaf lover

[swift pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-20348263

[pure goblet]

Just some commentary but I want to thank you all for your work here

[shell vine]

Thanks !

[sage tangle]

Finally, somebody said thanks! Dobby is free! ❤️

[limber yarrow]

Thank you 👍

[gray arrow]

Hi guys, i volunteer to translate to croatian, but im absolutely not familiar with the whole process on how to actually translate the language in-game

[limber yarrow]

All you have to do is go to crowdin(dot)com
create an account or login if you already have one and go to https://crowdin.com/project/deep-rock-galactic to start translating

[gray arrow]

Alright, thank you

[gray arrow]

I just did my first translation

[swift pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-movie-james-cameron-western-gif-17538858

[mellow frost]

Translating into Japanese, translated a paragraph of the supporter pack!

I’m new so idk if I have to tell here before I translate or anything.

Say, I wanted to translate to languages such as Hindi or Bengali too, is any of that planned/possible?

[slim verge]

nah, but you can get into contact with other japanese translator so you don't work on your own if you want.. You just need to check the pinned message and check the list^^

[slim verge]

not "planned" per say but we can always ask the devs to open those language for translation

[mellow frost]

thanks, I'll get in touch with them!

[mellow frost]

Sounds cool!

[slim verge]

if you're feeling motivated to translate those, let us know 😛

[mellow frost]

I'm up for it! Do keep me looped if that ends up happening!

[slim verge]

@shell vine if you want to pass the message ^^
#babelfish-lounge message

[shell vine]

Heya, Could you just choose one of those two to do first please? I'll ask for it to be opened right after

[mellow frost]

Maybe Bengali first, since that's my mother tongue.

[shell vine]

The demand is sent, but it might take a couple days to pass through (week-end and all that ^^).
Good luck !

(I'll keep you posted once it is made available)

[mellow frost]

Great! Excited to work on it! Thank you so much!

[shell vine]

No prob, it's always nice to see some more people willing to help spread the cult game

[slim verge]

||👀 no cults||

[shell vine]

||That's why it's not a cult or maybe it is||

[mellow frost]

||This ISNT a cult?
Man I was so excited to finally translate for a cult.
There goes my N4 certification dagnabbit.||

[nova walrus]

👀

[shell vine]

||Nah, no cults here, nothing to see we keep em hidden away from prying eyes||

[mellow frost]

||oh i understand ah yes good strats||

[shell vine]

<@&296918282403840000> Thanks

[shell vine]

<@&296918282403840000> (again ? They insist it would seem...)
Thanks

[native token]

me first :)

[gray arrow]

I just translated all the achievements to serbian

My god

That was exhausting but fun

[shell vine]

Wait until you find the puns ^^

[dry cradle]

now wait until patch notes and ingame content

[shell vine]

I axe the questions

[slim verge]

ssssssshhhh, don't scare him off so soon

[slim verge]

enough already

[gray arrow]

THERE WERE PUNS ALREADY

I think

[shell vine]

Small ones

[dry cradle]

Management weeps.

[gray arrow]

it was really hard to translate them but u still managed

[slim verge]

good luck for what's to come

there are some nasty ones 😂

[gray arrow]

I am scared

[shell vine]

We had to get a dedicated translator for french ||Just kidding, we also give him other things when he's done 🐸 ||

[slim verge]

oh, you can lmao

[dry cradle]

||g o o d l u c k ||

[gray arrow]

Thank you i am now ready

The achievements alone took me 12 hours i cant imagine how long everything else will take

[shell vine]

Don't worry, no stress, and please don't burn out

[gray arrow]

Thank you very much

[dry cradle]

a heads-up: the ingame content is worth 260+ pages of strings

[gray arrow]

I planned to take it slowly

[slim verge]

Yeah, take your time and don't burn out if you want to keep translating for a time

it can be daunting

[gray arrow]

Oh my god

[gray arrow]

I will thank you

[slim verge]

i think patchnotes alone are about 30% of total translation

[shell vine]

Most of those are simple, and you can always ask us if you have questions

[slim verge]

some of them are really massive

[shell vine]

Or need moral support

[gray arrow]

Here i thought patch notes were the easiest part😭 😭 i struggled at translating literally the two words "patch notes"

[slim verge]

@gray arrow Pro-tip for when you're translating a patchnotes for an incoming update :

MAKE A BACK-UP !

[gray arrow]

Thank you i feel at ease

[slim verge]

make a back-up of your work, this is VERY important and I cannot stress this enough

patchnotes are massive and often get tweaked and re-introduced in crowdin, meaning you lose all your previous work

[gray arrow]

THANK YOU, i lost it one time

When i was translating

[gray arrow]

Thats scary

[slim verge]

honestly, they are probably the worst part, just because of their sheer size

[dry cradle]

inb4 texts with sometimes 20k characters

[shell vine]

It was quite a shock the first few times

[slim verge]

happened to me once with a huge patchnote, I learned my lesson since

[shell vine]

Same

[gray arrow]

Yeah definitely

Once i finish that it'll be alright i hope

One serbian dude was translating and just left it at 1%

[shell vine]

You should probably leave patch notes for later, they are the least important of the game text

[slim verge]

honestly keep them for last, unless it's the one for the incoming update^^

[gray arrow]

How do you back it up?

[slim verge]

I just copy/paste everything in a .txt

[gray arrow]

alright thank you for the tips

[slim verge]

works well enough

[shell vine]

I would recommend starting with the glossary, it will help you later if you find out how to call each creature and stuff

[gray arrow]

Sweet thank you

[shell vine]

Same, txt file

[dry cradle]

copy your translated text and paste it somewhere else, like a text file or a discord server of only yours

[gray arrow]

I was wondering what glossary is now i know

[shell vine]

It's pretty useful, it allows you to click on the terms in the general strings, and autofills them (and a hover over shows the details of it)

[slim verge]

about that, if you want take on taking off the capitals in ours, feel free...

😂

[shell vine]

Why not

[dry cradle]

the glossary is what helps you with the definitions later on, so yeah, prioritize that

[slim verge]

started doing it but haven't finished it yet I think

dunno how much is left

[gray arrow]

Thank you so much

Thank you for helping me out guys

Are achievements even 1% of the games texts?

[dry cradle]

steam presence and the glossary are the "cHaPtErS" with the least amount of strings, and the glossary helps you better later. so id say youre going good

at least i did so unwillingly lol

[shell vine]

Of the grand total, no. But since those include the patch notes, and those alone are about 40% of the text (word wise), it's not really relevant.
The main file to focus on after the glossary is the "all-game text" one.

[mossy egret]

Once? Those a rookie numbers

lol, took a while for the lesson to stick

[autumn musk]

Can somebody add me to the list of Dutch translators in the pinned message?

[gray arrow]

Hi guys

Im having a bit of trouble with glossary here

Do i literally translate the names or just translate them how they would sound with the languages pronounciation

[dry cradle]

Depends, what's the one word you're looking at now?

[autumn musk]

You can always look at what other languages did as a reference

[gray arrow]

Deeptora

With Chromepuff i got a bit creative

[autumn musk]

For Dutch I changed quite a lot of names to spell them how we would while roughly retaining how it sounds

[autumn musk]

Haha, same! It’s over of the ones I’m most proud of, actually!

[swift pilot]

What name did you find for this plant?

[autumn musk]

I also translated the beer names which was a lot of fun, but I kinda regret that and am contemplating reverting that because of the untranslated images that always accompany the beers

[swift pilot]

In Spanish it already appeared as Cromaria, lol

[autumn musk]

“Chroomsoes”, which combines “chroom” with “roomsoes” which is a profiterole/filled choux pastry and actually kind of looks like a Chrome Puff, too!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiterole

[swift pilot]

Sounds delicious for a plant that is in a biome over 1000°

[autumn musk]

Which makes it nice and ironic

Forbidden fruit kind of thing

[shell vine]

The best policy to apply when translating stuff is to first try to keep the meaning if it is something important (ie. mission control explaining how a mission works), then to make it sound as natural as possible in your language, and finally to try and keep the games jokes and tone (if possible).
So, for the names, try to keep the general idea, but make those "natural" for your language - because you are translating the glossary, that means that you can choose a nice fitting name, and later use it everywhere else.

[gray arrow]

I just put Hromaduvan, i wanted to go with "Hromaduv" but i dont know im still thinking, it kind of makes sense because hroma means chrome and "duvan" is just the word "naduvan" but without the letters n and a so it would go better with the word, also "naduvan" means puffy

[gray arrow]

Yeahh im trying to do thag

that*

but its difficult

[gray arrow]

profitaroles are so tasty thats a creative name

[autumn musk]

Not knowing the language—that sounds perfect!

[gray arrow]

Thank you!!

What name did you put for Drop Pod?

I dont know if i should just let it be or put the word spacecraft in my language

[autumn musk]

There’s no translation for the concept of ‘a drop’, so I chose to translate it as ‘transport capsule’

Letting it be is a good choice if you can’t come up with something that you like

[gray arrow]

Thats creative i like it

[shell vine]

Same for french, we had to rename to "capsule", with nothing more.

[gray arrow]

I really like "Svemirska Letelica" but i feel like its too long so im still thinking

[autumn musk]

That’s actually a good call; keeping it simple.

[gray arrow]

Space Capsule sounds good too

[gray arrow]

exactly

[autumn musk]

One thing I’m starting to realise is that it’s more important for it to make sense than it is to stick to the literal meaning of the original phrase

[gray arrow]

This helped me view it from a different perspective

[autumn musk]

So if ‘capsule’ makes sense (i.e. people will understand what it means) there’s no need to be more verbose

So thanks, @shell vine. Now I might just go over this and simplify them, haha 😅

[swift pilot]

Cápsula de Transporte too

Generally languages ​​from Latin can share many translations more easily.

such as Portuguese, Spanish, Italian and French.

[autumn musk]

That’s so useful!

I can only really take inspiration from German—which I do quite often!

[swift pilot]

I usually check Italian and Portuguese br. It optimizes a lot when it comes to translating something, and even gives a certain affinity between languages.

[swift pilot]

What do you call the Fester Frea?

[shell vine]

In French, Puciole, which is a play on words between "Puer" (to stink) and "Luciole" (firefly)

[limber yarrow]

Yep, we are stealing that idea and using it in latin american spanish

[swift pilot]

||Anota eso||

[slim verge]

@sage tangle ^

[swift pilot]

Does anyone know when the translations on the Steam page are updated?

because I recently finished translating all the threads in steampage.csv

[slim verge]

iirc, you have to ask about them to get them into the game

and rn, the person in charge of it is occupied with something else IIRC

[swift pilot]

Yep

[slim verge]

btw, could you remind me what's your crowdin name ? ^^

[gray arrow]

Hi guys

Can somebody add me to the list of Serbian translators?

[slim verge]

@sage tangle

[raw storm]

Its Zherlum

[slim verge]

thanks 👍

[raw storm]

Np !

[sage tangle]

Once I'm at a pc again, need to look over pt anyways

[shell vine]

It's a manual process, but I'll ask for it again on Monday

[dry cradle]

[small kernel]

Also needed it Steam UI for Turkish

[swift pilot]

[autumn musk]

I'm looking at the achievements

And there's so many great puns

[slim verge]

yup

[autumn musk]

"Full Team Ahead", "Drill-by Shooting", etc.

I just can't translate those 🙈

"Deep for Speed"

There's one where I found something that's semi-decent. The rest I just left as the original string, haha

[slim verge]

good luck

[gray arrow]

Hahah same

[gray arrow]

This was the only one that rhymed in my language the same way it did in english

The drill-by one was so difficult i was stuck on that one for a good few minutes

[autumn musk]

What did you end up doing? I couldn't translate that one either, I think.

We call a drive-by shooting just that, too

[gray arrow]

I just used a word that isnt in the actual dictionary but can be used

I put "Bušilička Pucnjava"

[gray arrow]

Which can have a couple of meanings but i think it was a good choice

Translating the drilldozer was hard i couldnt think of how to fuse the word drill and dozer together

[autumn musk]

For Drilldozer I used Dutch for what amounts to "Digging machine"

But I'm of half a mind to just make it all "Drilldozer" again

[gray arrow]

That sounds pretty good

[shell vine]

There is Bengali and Bengali, India available, do you know which one is yours ?

[mellow frost]

Bengali, India

[mellow frost]

I think the other one is for Bangladesh.

[shell vine]

Congrats, you can now join the cult start translating !

[mellow frost]

Lets gooo. Do I get the bengali translator role? xD

[shell vine]

The roles are created once there are more than one, because they come with a secret channel, and the mods try to avoid making too much useless ones. So once you enrole find more cultists translators, the role can be asked for.

[mellow frost]

got it, also for the weird code looking bits, do I keep it untranslated?

[shell vine]

Anything between [ ], { } or< > should stay as it is, yes. Those are called variables, and they correspond to the bits of text where the game will insert something in the string.

[mellow frost]

alright, thanks!

[autumn musk]

gl + hf!

[small kernel]

Good luck for translations and welcome

[fervent musk]

Hello guys, me and my friend just started translating the game to the ukrainian language, but we have some questions:

1. How to translate those ones with some code inside the sentances?
2. How the approval works? Wheh we send something, in some time it dissappears and translation show only in the suggestions
3. When admins approve translations?
   And the last one, how to get role of translator?)
   Thanks in advance

[autumn musk]

1. Anything in between brackets (most often '{}') shouldn't be translated. These will be replaced by variables such as which use button you have bound for example.

[dry cradle]

The codes aren't translated, those are variables for the engine to replace text on

Also, for the approval part, you'll have to talk to your proofreader(s). Do you have any atm?

Oh, and the translator role is gotten after the mods consider your effort worthy of it

[slim verge]

@honest sun is the proofreader for ukrainian, you'll want to contact him for proofreading

[dry cradle]

And the text needs to be actually translated, not just a word garble lol

[fresh wharf]

team up with Sergii and you're good

[dry cradle]

@fervent musk you should talk to sergii about approving your strings then

[fresh wharf]

there are reward tiers on crowdin and role is one of them iirc

but you can get it early if you work hard

[slim verge]

indeed but for reasons we don't really talk about those tiers in here usually

[fresh wharf]

it works in 2 directions, though - beneficial and harmful, to that person it's more like beneficial looking at his questions

[slim verge]

about the 2)

Sometimes, there are typos in the base string, or the strings is not working for some reasons, so it has to but back into crowdin and every translation related to it will disappear. That'd be the reason for those disappearing from time to time.

[fervent musk]

Thank you all for help. In some time i will talk to Sergii, first of all i need to do more translations so i will have some materials to show

[shell vine]

About 2) and 3), see the last part of the latest pinned message, I detailed the process there.

[gray arrow]

Hi everyone

Im supposed to be asleep but im translating right now

glossary is just so fun

[swift pilot]

For me it is the best tool.

You can complete it and not forget the keywords for the game. Also if more people join, then they will have something to go by.

I think there are words that haven't been added yet, maybe for season 2 they will be.

[honest sun]

@fervent musk just send me message in private. Both.

@slim verge Thank you for pin

[honest sun]

some statistic

[slim verge]

interesting stuff

[honest sun]

for developers and translators ))

[shell vine]

You can see this for yourself in crowdin, translated is the amount of words in english, target words is the amount of words in your language

[autumn musk]

Very interesting!

I wonder how it counts words with things like contractions

[hard sky]

stealing that graph

[sage tangle]

Basically: If a non-dynamic hud element is just fitting in english, double the size for all other languages. || triple for some||

Though you can see this by just going to crowdin and comparing base string vs <other language> section below, too.

[hard sky]

by the way, @gray arrow and I will be needing a course in crowdin lifehacks and good practices for translations at some point so we can get cracking on the danish translation 😎

[boreal quest]

A good practice is to cuss a lot because of the puns the devs made.

Turn on auto approval if you're a proofreader. Saves a lot of time. Or turn off auto skipping to the next string, if you're not sure about automatic approvals.

[hard sky]

Is there a good way to ensure consistency between translations? E.g. if we translate Red Sugar one place, we don't have to translate it again?

[boreal quest]

Crowdin suggest translations to strings that are very similar, so you'll find that most stuff is just a click to do.

[sage tangle]

I'm not sure we can trust you enough with a crowdin account or proofreading, I might ask Alex to block both of you. I remember your sus smile, scheming.

[boreal quest]

Also, now would be a great time to update the glossary with new terms.

[shell vine]

The glossary ?

[sage tangle]

start with the folder Glossary - words in there will then be underlined with - - - - - in strings, on mouseover you can see your translation from the glossary. Though it does not always work proper

[shell vine]

Good practices : report all spelling mistakes to @hard sky , he a dev, he knows what to do with them ^^

[hard sky]

I've gotten admin rights on crowdin now so good luck! 😈

[hard sky]

Good idea. Not sure how, but I'll look into it!

[sage tangle]

Revert that. I remember Jacob once made me crowdin project manager on accident instead of just proofreader. That's how it's supposed to be

[hard sky]

I can finally hide prototype strings you guys aren't supposed to proof read 😂

[sage tangle]

Noo let us have our teasers, that's what spoiler channel is for

[shell vine]

More seriously, you should probably coordinate with @light kernel

[shell vine]

Too late, we saw them already

[boreal quest]

Hide all the dev strings, please.

[hard sky]

dev strings?

[boreal quest]

Which you'll never use.

[hard sky]

Really? Hahahah

[sage tangle]

aside from the glossary, usually it's good to just filter.
Say you have Glyphid Warden, Glyphid Ward, Glyphid Sentinel.
You just enter 'warden' top left and see all strings with the warden inside, so you can counter check you didn'T mix them up.
Sadly manual process

[hard sky]

Ah ok, I was hoping there was a more automatic mode to do that. That's how I've been doing it so far

[sage tangle]

sadly, no 😦

memory and filtering

crowdin is jucky to handle GUI wise

[slim verge]

A few tips I can give you :

• Translate the glossary first, as it's been pointed out by others
• It's usual in english to not have spaces after some punctuation or to have capitals letters everywhere, but you'll need to apply the rules of your language for most stuff so keep that in mind, especially when translating the glossary.
• Decide early on if you want to translate names and brands or not. Personally, I know we don't in french but it might be different for you
• Always, ALWAYS, make a backup of your patchnotes translation for an incoming update
• I personally translate things in "groups", for example : All the M.U.LE strings, all the drop pods strings, etc.... It makes it easier to keep things cleared out step by step

[sage tangle]

thankfully it filters near instantly

[shell vine]

It's on crowdin, been there for at least 5 months

[hard sky]

I won't be translating patch notes

fuck that

[boreal quest]

Also, devs put a really neat feature in the game: translation debug mode. Do you know about that? Very useful. 😁

[sage tangle]

[shell vine]

Are leaving those to Jonas ?

[sage tangle]

Spoken like a true translator

[slim verge]

Also, can I advise talking that conversation into #translation-spoilers instead ?

We're talking about a lot of hidden stuff

[boreal quest]

||NEW PLANET ZONE||

[shell vine]

Nothing "secret" was leaked, we are good for now

[slim verge]

It's just for further stuff still

we're in a public channel and things could go and leak before we realise it lol

[slim verge]

I feel you lol

[boreal quest]

Oh, you mean the hidden Karl lore strings?

[hard sky]

fixed

[boreal quest]

Those are nice.

[limber yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-bryan-cranston-coward-disappointed-gif-4024901

[raw storm]

Those can be painful ye

[hard sky]

https://giphy.com/gifs/aint-nobody-got-time-for-that-gif-bWM2eWYfN3r20

[shell vine]

You're just trying to justify your laziness

[dry cradle]

feel the pain, mark

[slim verge]

don't worry, translating the game back in 2019 with two people only took us two weeks of constant work

it's worse now

[dry cradle]

inb4 eu-pt

[autumn musk]

I really wish there was a way to remove/hide/tag deprecated strings

That would save so much time

[slim verge]

there is : JIRA

but as for Crowdin itself, sadly there's nothing except comments

[shell vine]

There is a way to hide strings (so only proofreaders have access), but they need to be manually checked on crowdin, so those need to be pointed to the devs individually (Jira) and then Mark needs to take time off from translating the game to Danish to hide those ^^

[shell vine]

||https://tenor.com/view/monorail-simpsons-gif-11138737||

[autumn musk]

That doesn't sound like a bother at all!

[swift pilot]

You can translate everything except the misc and bugs

[dry cradle]

vasquez will beat you for it tho, just saying

[swift pilot]

Place your bets, gentlemen!

[small kernel]

Just waiting for next big crowdin push

[autumn musk]

Oh man, I've so enjoyed the last update that included the translations. It allowed me to do so many more translations that I wasn't sure if they still needed doing.

[swift pilot]

Once you start, you can't stop

And when you have no more to translate, you start to see every tiny possible change to make.

and when there is no more to change, YOU DECIDE TO BURN ALL THE STRINGS AND TRANSLATE THEM BACK.

[small kernel]

And then you check the strings again for typos

[dry cradle]

meanwhile theres me

with no time

[swift pilot]

I don't know if it's a bug, but the in-game Patch Notes don't have a translation. For all languages ​​it is in English.

[autumn musk]

I'm starting to near this stage :')

[gray arrow]

I would lose my mind

[swift pilot]

But it's worth it later to see your translations in the game, and feel like a traslator without a degree.

[autumn musk]

I marked this as an issue:
https://crowdin.com/translate/deep-rock-galactic/77/en-nl?filter=advanced&value=12&verbal_expression_scope=translations&votes=votes_less_than&votes_count=1&sort_method=4#149650

But somebody said that the misspelling of 'canister' "has been discussed" and that the devs chose to keep the incorrect spelling? 🤔

How does that work?

[dry cradle]

Both "canister" and "cannister" are apparently valid English words, hence the permanence

[autumn musk]

Ah, TIL

I thought 'cannister' was incorrect and 'canister' was correct. But if they're both valid then that's fair enough.

The response "We discussed that before" without offering that context is just unhelpful then.

[dry cradle]

Bot'l o' scrumpehoil shale

[lean pulsar]

New strings

[shell vine]

Shhh, no spoilers !

[lean pulsar]

They should be able to be translated by a single person

And no, I wasn't gonna mention its contents

[shell vine]

(We had leaks like that before, I'd rather be safe than sorry)

[lean pulsar]

Let's just do our job and let everyone enjoy it in their language when it's out

[shell vine]

What language are you working on ?

[lean pulsar]

Swedish

wow these strings are rather odd this time

[slim verge]

that's exactly the kind of stuff you shouldn't be posting in here if you ask me

[lean pulsar]

fair enough, sorry bout that

[slim verge]

all good

[lean pulsar]

[slim verge]

Also, where the hell did you find those ? 😄

[lean pulsar]

Oh well I used the inspect element in my browser

then a little editing

[stiff canyon]

Is there an easy way to filter all loading screen tips on Crowdin?

[slim verge]

give me a minute

@stiff canyon if I'm not mistaken, you can find them by searching for #. SourceLocation: /Game/UI/Tips

it's not all loading screen tips but you should be able to make the difference

[stiff canyon]

Hmm, thanks

[swift pilot]

P A P E R

[boreal quest]

This is the quality poké crossover that I've always wanted.

Not that I would know.

[lusty root]

oh no

[lean pulsar]

shush no talking about the paper pickaxe parts

[swift pilot]

[spark sigil]

[gray arrow]

I'm translating my first strings, mostly fixing typos, and I got a noob question: when you submit a translation, do you always need to notify the proofreaders? And, when you do, ALL the proofreaders get notified or just the ones assigned to your language?

[dry cradle]

I'm not a proofreader, but if you wanna notify, you can go ahead lol

I also think not every proofreader gets it just your language's

[gray arrow]

Thanks

[shell vine]

If you get a prompt to notify a proofreader, that means that you are working on previously approved strings (nothing wrong there, don't worry). In that case, it'll send a notification to the proofreader that approved said string.
And yes, send the notifications, because of you don't, nobody will ever know there is a need to check on that string.

[slim verge]

As a proofreader myself, I back that up ☝️

the notifications are very helpful

[gray arrow]

Ok, again, many thanks

[shell vine]

Sure, anytime

[fading mirage]

Hello, after a long time. I have one Q. Is it possible to find out how many people use which translation in the game? I am interested in how many people play in Slovak

[sage tangle]

Short answer is no.
Long answer: Devs have some statistics of the steam playerbase, though last we asked, not this granular.

[fading mirage]

Thanks 🙂

[sage tangle]

The base question you have to ask for yourself is: In your country, how many people speak / play in English, even if they have the possibility to play in their language?

There are countries which are so used to having no translation and everybody speaks english anyways...

[autumn musk]

Dutch is squarely within that category, for example

Which is why I'd be curious to see how many people actually use the Dutch translation

[swift pilot]

Ninjago is life

[jolly kiln]

I was wondering, has the possibility of having the game dubbed in other languages been considered?
I personally love the voice lines, but I also know for a fact that in my country (Italy) a large percentage of people wouldn't play a game if it's not also dubbed in Italian

[slim verge]

this has been talked about before yeah but that will likely never happen

[jolly kiln]

Dang

[lean pulsar]

Unless someone who sounds like the voice actor just decides to do it for no reason and add it as a mod, no

[versed sequoia]

I wont

[slim verge]

why not ? ^^

[dry cradle]

Why not, Sasha?

[lusty root]

If I'd have to assume (speaking from the knowledge of my friend group), a lot of people who speak dutch generally prefer English as playing something that's translated to dutch kinda feels... awkward most of the time. Partly because of the fact that it's originally designed in English and partly because English just has more oomph to it I guess. Rock and stone generally feels a lot better to say out loud than "rots en steen".

[slim verge]

I can get behind that

In french we decided to not translate "Rock and Stone" because it felt too weak and awkward

so we left it

and I think it was for the best anyway

makes it more universal

[versed sequoia]

Because Dutch is kinda cringe.

[lusty root]

Lmao

[lusty root]

Not gonna change the fact that I love translating though :)

[autumn musk]

Yeah, unfortunately Dutch isn't "hip". Youth, advertising and TV personalities are using more and more English terms even if there's perfect Dutch ways to say them. TV, movies, music, internet. Everything we (choose to!) consume is in English nowadays, so that shapes how languages are perceived.

Personally I embrace how 'cringe' it can sometimes sound to play this game in Dutch. I don't know, it feels like it meshes with the kind of humour this game is going for, too.

I play with a group of friends and it's been a big source of entertainment for us!

[lean pulsar]

Tomorrow we'll have the weapon reveal

Now nobody said to anyone that it's the subata for gunner right?

[raw storm]

Finally, I hate it when its needlessly translated in french just for the sake of it

[slim verge]

Same

We also kept stuff like brand names untranslated

[raw storm]

I saw yeah you kept the Crisp flamer

[slim verge]

Can't really translate CRSPR anyway

I'm glad we didn't translate stuff like DeepCore

that would have sounded terrible lol

[shell vine]

NoyauProfond

[slim verge]

🤢

NoyauProfond LGP

yikes

[dry cradle]

Rochegarde

[digital dawn]

As a sidenote, is this feasible now that mod support is in the game? I haven't explored very much what mods allow you to do but would it be possible to replace all the voice lines? Is that the kind of thing that could be an "approved" mod for progression?

I am aware that would be an infeasible amount of work, but when I started translating, mod support wasn't in the game I'm pretty sure so it wasn't even on my mind

[sage tangle]

there are mods replacing the dreadnought sounds with Johans and Jacobs REEEE, so I guess dwarfes are possible, too.

[frail rampart]

if someone put in the work, you could implement new voice acting and it would be an auto-verified mod

since it's all audio

[slim verge]

speaking of which : links plz
I couldn't find it

[sage tangle]

maybe it's been discontinued

I played with -disablemodding for ... ever, because I had rare crashes with mods enabled, which sucks if you're hosting 3 more people who get kicked, too

[slim verge]

sad

[fervent musk]

Hello, how often are translations added to the game? Patch 12 came out today, but not a single verified translation has been added.

[dry cradle]

I think usually translations come with big updates, so I think it'll come with season 2

[cloud surge]

Any Klingon speakers wanna translate the game to Klingon with me?

[dry cradle]

If crowdin allows klingon, then I guess there's no issue with that lol

[fervent musk]

ok thanks

[autumn musk]

The devs have said that the translations are a priority, but there's other things (even) more important (imagine!) that they're tackling first right now.

[autumn musk]

I actually found an apt translation in Dutch 🙈

[slim verge]

yeah ? ^^

[autumn musk]

"CRSPR" is basically pronounced as "crisper", so I made it "KNPRG" for "knapperig" which means as much as crunchy

[slim verge]

nice

[shell vine]

They are normally included in each update, but the implementation of the automatic process for this is a secondary task compared to fixing the crashes in the game. There are devs that are assigned to making this happen, someday.

Spoiler !

That update is not announced yet

pls remove

[swift pilot]

I mean..... the steeve update :))))

[shell vine]

Thanks

[swift pilot]

I will be correcting many strings these days, so everything is ready for the next updates.

WHAT CAN BE ANY UPDATE

[autumn musk]

My translations from the past few weeks were included, so you should either take another look at the in-game texts or at whether something might've gone wrong in Crowdin?

[fervent musk]

For some reason, there were no translations in the game yesterday, but I now went into the game and saw that they are, thanks

[swift pilot]

The strings I suggested for Latin American Spanish were added

[swift pilot]

Also fixed the "Operación de Salvamento" translation error @shell vine

[gray arrow]

Little doubt: "HE Rounds" stands for Highly Explosive rounds, right?

Found it on the description of one of the overclocks

[ornate parrot]

Correct

[slim verge]

yes

[gray arrow]

Ok, thanks

[swift pilot]

Do you have the option to translate this text in your languages?

In Crowdin I don't see that string.

[shell vine]

I've never seen it, either in-game or on crowdin...
You should add to the relevant Jira report (see pinned messages in the spoiler channel)

[small kernel]

@shell vine I already added in here but not fixed yet: https://ghostshipgames.atlassian.net/browse/DRG-2716

[mossy perch]

Do we need to translate the game into newfouneese?

[dry cradle]

Newfounesee?

[swift pilot]

You mean that place in Canada?

[dry cradle]

I don't see a newfounesee on crowdin

[mossy perch]

Oh how's ye getten en yeah now eh?

Someone from there asked me if we could.

I'm not joking.

[swift pilot]

It's the first time I've heard of that place

I think it could be added

[dry cradle]

...come again?

[dry cradle]

Prolly should ask the devs

[mossy perch]

Thats English from there.

I don't think it's necessary but a friend of mine asked, so i will ask.

[dry cradle]

Don't actually dm the devs tho lol

Let's leave the msg here and wait for one of our messengers to carry the request

[shell vine]

Not gonna bother them with that

[dry cradle]

Fair enough lol

[swift pilot]

Maybe its from Newfoundland and Labrador?

[mossy perch]

It is

Idk why he wants it in the game, its not even a different language

[swift pilot]

English and french, i think

[mossy perch]

Newfineese is english but made by valve

[lusty root]

makes me wonder about Welsh or Gaelic dwarves

[dry cradle]

The Gaelic GladiatorsMiners

[lusty root]

dwarven gladiator miners

ut meus te salutant

[dry cradle]

Welsh Warrior Miners too

[lusty root]

is that what the devs are teasing with the norse weapon skins?

[dry cradle]

What Norse weapon skins?!

[lusty root]

I mean, norse-ish (in my opinion)
the fourth relic ones

[boreal quest]

inb4 Friesian

[fallen glen]

есть кто то руский

[shell vine]

@prisma perch Can you help this guy ?

[prisma perch]

Да

@dread guristas#2505

[shell vine]

Already left the server...
Oh well

[lusty root]

Rip

[autumn musk]

I can't find this string on Crowdin: "Direct Damage"

[slim verge]

enable this, then use control + o and note the code of the string

(it's probably a string in two parts, hence why you can't find it)

you'll be able to find the string by using this code

[autumn musk]

I forget how to set the debug mode language to the 'Debug Language' with the codes

I use it to switch between Dutch and English

This string consists three parts for as far as I can tell: "Hold" (https://crowdin.com/translate/deep-rock-galactic/77/en-nl#189958), the LMB icon and "<HoldSelect/> TO UNLOCK" (https://crowdin.com/translate/deep-rock-galactic/77/en-nl#361805). This makes it impossible to create a grammatically correct translation in Dutch.

The solution for this would be to create a new string: "Hold [Select]", just like there's "Hold [Jump]", "Hold [Grenade]", etc.

[shell vine]

There is no setting that allows to switch between English or Id's in the debug mode. If you are seeing English text, that is a bug inside the debug mode. See pinned message for more info

[verbal hemlock]

What’s this channel for?

Oh yeah nvm in welcome.

[swift pilot]

I recently discovered that the names of some creatures in the Miner's Manual are made up of different debug codes. But my question is, isn't it easier to put a single code for the creatures? Fo example, the "Glyphid Grunt" is made up of 3 different codes (I know at least 2 of them are for "Glyphid" and "Grunt"). I think it's easier to put a code that contains the full name.

The creatures belonging to the "Rival Tech" have their names with a unique debugging code (at least from what I saw), avoiding errors such as missing spaces between names and classifications.

[shell vine]

The thing is, the debug codes are only there to show how the strings are organised and implemented by the devs.

[autumn musk]

@swift pilot’s point still stands though. Some translations settings are improperly implemented/organised rendering them unable to be properly translated due to spaces and word order.

The debug codes allow us to see which are

[shell vine]

We have made the devs aware of this, and they agreed to try and avoid them, but most past instances are not going to get changed unfortunately.

[autumn musk]

Did they say why?

[shell vine]

Lack of manpower mostly. As a dev yourself, imagine having to go through what someone else coded and changing how it works but not the results. Probably for something made a long time ago. And then factor in the current workload to keep up with in addition to that 🤷‍♂️

[autumn musk]

I partly understand. They’re not structural code but translation strings. If they’re only a few, they could be individually reported, changed and added to Crowdin.

That said, priorities are what they are :)

[shell vine]

As far as I understood it, those strings are managed through an automated process, so new mobs are added automatically.

[swift pilot]

That explains why the "Rival Tech" mobs are implemented like this. I mean, they are introduced as they appear in crowdin.

[shadow lodge]

any info what this should mean or where it is used? The way i translated is corrext but kind of makes no sense

[dry cradle]

my guess would be that, based on the context string, its gonna be some form of indication that the invite sent to a friend was accepted...? i think its related to the newly-released ps+discord sdk, but who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shadow lodge]

not sure about "newly" since its there fo at least 5 months

[fading mirage]

Any info about date of next update? We did about 500 corrections and adjustments in translation...thx :*

[small kernel]

@fading mirage Probably april

[fading mirage]

nice

[swift pilot]

👀

[shell vine]

#announcements message

[honest sun]

I want to ask you all a small attention. Please, share the word that Ukraine is not russia. And all humanity should gather and fight back. Today they hit us, tomorrow they can be at your borders.

[swift pilot]

Does it happen to you that the Sticky Goo of the Driller's weapon is not translated in your languages?

[shell vine]

If I play, I'll check

[dry cradle]

Well, you can always check the debug codes to see if it's there

[swift pilot]

Oops