Good luck with your first steps, @shy pivot , if you have any doubts as fakiyo mentioned, just let us know so that we can help you
#babelfish-lounge
leaden sapphire
shell vine
Since tagging was required, here it comes : @solid bough
The question was : Would it be possible to to pull the strings from the crowdin to the exp build regularly (say, once a week), and push said build to steam so that we can see how the strings adapt in-game, without having to wait for an update when all devs are on bug hunt duty ; )
The idea for exp is to avoid a massive update for everyone that doesn't change anything (visibly, at least).
Also, would the question about singular/plural differenciation for the pouch contents (ex : boolo cap 01 / boolo caps 02 ) be something you want/would do ?
And could the use of compound strings (like 'health' + 'full' / 'morkite' + 'full' etc...) be avoided as much as possible? It makes translating these cases impossible for french in most of them, and I believe other languages are impacted as well.
short abyss
Secondly
you have like
18 strings
of "Common Rock"
for all types of rock
it wouldn't hurt
to add a couple more "Morkite" lines in differnt places
so its easier to translate lol
Although game design wise
For every mineral to be added and currently present
you'd need a new case for every single mineral when you mine it
shell vine
That's exactly what's asked
shy pivot
@sage tangle Local man takes nap, wakes up to good news.
sage tangle
yay
shy pivot
Gimme a few minutes to wake up and I'll gladly take some advice on the first steps assuming it's not just the guidelines again.
small kernel
it's easier to translate texts by seeing sentences from playing game
shy pivot
@sage tangle alright chief, whaddya got for me?
sage tangle
Just be aware that at this moment you're the only one translating, which means whatever you send in gets patched into the game with the next update automatically. There's noone proofreading it but you at this moment
sage tangle
Was a joke. Jacob proofreads everything
sage tangle
He's sitting there all day reading my german translations and laughing his ass off
over some german wordings.
Späher
dapper plinth
oga boga i hit rock jhdsøsd bv< bgfkv eurs<hjk
sage tangle
(That was the joke). Devs export crowdin, strings get back into game. Everyone who reads romanian now gets to see what you did
shy pivot
so that's nobody else I hope
sage tangle
So do what you're comfortable with at the beginning, you'll get the feeling of it
shy pivot
is a space rig technically a space ship?
sage tangle
At first I was like
'oh god no lets not touch this'
Now I'm like
'This sounds off, CHANGE IT ALL'
short abyss
id consider it a station more than anything
shy pivot
oh yeah good point, that's a word
sage tangle
we're on spacerig #17
shy pivot
did we blow up the rest?
sage tangle
of our employer Deep Rock Galactic, an intergalactical mining company
no, there are... forty something
shy pivot
ah, ok fair
how do you deal with words that don't particularly have a translation
do you use the closest thing to it?
sage tangle
a) as close as possible unless
b) it doesnt make sense in your language, doesnt exist, or you just wouldnt SAY it in your language
shy pivot
like , bogus would translate to fake/fictional/made up, but adding that shit in a way to have it make a modicum of sense is kinda wack
shy pivot
wait
short abyss
1 word of advice
make sure all text you translate is consistent
so you don't end up like me, translate stun differently thrice through the span of 6 months
shy pivot
how does jacob proof read this stuff in a different language
sage tangle
He doesnt
that was a joke
he just sits there and giggles to himself when he reads german
short abyss
die dusche
sage tangle
Jacob said they try to do it often now nearing 1.0
shy pivot
only when the language is fully translated?
sage tangle
last patch / experimental I annoyed asked him nicely and it was nearly every experimental build
eh lel
no, every patch
but not every hotfix
shy pivot
and how often does a patch drop usually?
seems every 2 months given the roadmap but idk prior to that
sage tangle
every month
shy pivot
wow
god damn
question
are connector words ok for titles?
Magma Core would translate to "Nucleul de Magma" , that "de" being close to "made of"
sage tangle
if you dont have compound words
shy pivot
compound words?
sage tangle
What kind of willi wonka languages are you speaking, no compound words
Laughs in Übermenschensprache Deutsch 😄
is there a language which is similar to yours in the translations?
shy pivot
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
well it's a language with latin roots
italian/spanish would be your best guesses
sage tangle
basically, first start with everything which you're 100% sure of. after a few days of that get to stuff like that
I found translating on my own was like understanding something more and more
shy pivot
imma keep it real with you chief
sage tangle
because doing stuff you're certain of, gives you the feeling how to do improvised stuff.
shy pivot
translating my stuff into english can be a real pain due to eh... manners of speech? I guess that's the way to put it
sage tangle
what azerty?
shy pivot
I saw the hon hon
sage tangle
Me too
shy pivot
also
"of magma" and "magmatic"
idk how much is that ok to change
magmatic is borderline a made up adjective lmao
just to fit in 2 words
also sorry if these are dumb questions or what not, but I'd rather do a half decent job the first time around so that others who have to go through it won't have a shit time 😅
shell vine
Wrong channel, I though I was in the no-mic of the french discord
sage tangle
I just imagine the french chat being full of
Non
Oui
Baguette
shell vine
I imagine yours being full of weird symbols and 3 km long words
shy pivot
german? more like
consonants gargling
amirite fellas
I feel like german is such a naturally angry sounding language and I love it
it's hilarious at times
sage tangle
Würdest du Deutsch sprechen, wüsstest du dass du theoretisch Recht hast mit Derivationsbeziehungen, Steigerungsformen und Gebrauchsgrammatik.
sage tangle
But to your question, that's the point.
It's you who decides what fits the game now
shy pivot
Würdest du Deutsch sprechen, wüsstest du dass du theoretisch Recht hast mit Derivationsbeziehungen, Steigerungsformen und Gebrauchsgrammatik.
something you speak german, something you theoretically have [recht]
derivations, something forms and germanic grammar
sage tangle
There's stuff which needs to stay the same because of the 'feeling'.
Then there's stuff which needs to be witty, like play on words and stuff.
shy pivot
Aye, I getcha
sage tangle
A lot of wordplays or descriptive names (for cosmetics) were translated word for word
which of course doesnt make any sense
shy pivot
yea exactly
I feel like it's a big fucking stretch to translate "pits" into "caverns"
the closest thing to "pit" is basically a way of saying "hole" and that just sounds shite
sage tangle
so while the biomes need to descripe the biomes and should be as literal as possible, you also have a bit of leeway with it.
Sandblastes Corridors made NO SENSE in german as the lit. translation meant using the tool to abrase walls from paint with sand. It was technically correct but you wouldnt use it like that EVER.
So I made Sandblasted Corridors to Sandsturmhöhlen, which is Sandstormcaves
shy pivot
ooh, I love it
shell vine
The most important thing is for you to make it sound good, then to try to keep the humor/style of the game. Sounding good is priority 1
shy pivot
you see
sage tangle
Or Radioactive Zone was Radioaktive Sperrzone which was on the one hand free, correct, and complete shit.
I made an aliteration: 'Strahlende Strata' which is lit. Radiating Strata
shy pivot
in english that's easy
in romanian
while also keeping it fairly on topic and descriptive and not changing too much
fuck me
sage tangle
You did want to do romanian 😛
shell vine
You are aloud to change it quite a lot, as long as it sounds 'natural' in romanian, and that the meaning is kept, it's fine
Bonus points if you manage to keep the humor along the ride
sage tangle
But you shouldn't make 'jokes' where there are none in the game
shy pivot
Bet, I'm all down for the challenge, I just don't wanna get too carried away, get what I'm saying?
sage tangle
like beer descriptions and cosmetics are 'fun' words and stuff, while mission control for instance is correct and not joking around
yes, that's why I suggest stick to clean easy stuff which immediately springs to mind and skip everything which makes you think for more than 5 seconds at first
reading a lot of original strings gives you a feeling
after you did a few hundred, or a few days, whatever, suddenly you have a full picture of how other stuff should read and sound
shell vine
And the more you work on it, the better you'll feel about difficult ones
shy pivot
right so
Scout
it does have a translation
but the way we use the word, doesn't really fit the way it's used in the game
would Explorer be a decent alternative?
or way off the beaten path?
shell vine
Also, you can always ask if you have a doubt about a specific string, sometimes seeing how other languages did it can help find a way for yours
Explorer is fine, as long as it fits better than other alternativs
sage tangle
Explorer would be fine I guess? Is a connected meaning for german Späher too
shell vine
Just go with your guts, it'll be fine
sage tangle
Yeh german says Bohrer.
Which is the tool... A Drill
shell vine
Don't you have a word for a job tied to digging ?
shy pivot
we do
sage tangle
Diggy boy
shy pivot
it either sounds like shit
it's related to the grave digging job
or I'm basically calling it an Excavator
as in the big fuck off thing used in constructions
shell vine
Excavator could work
shy pivot
It's basically the name for one of these
shell vine
How are called the people manning heavy duty equipement
shy pivot
but it's the most fitting for the driller
shy pivot
we don't have something like
particular
we just call them "Constructors" for most people working in the domain
unless it's really specific like engineer
or the guy operating a crane
shell vine
Well excavator seems like the best option
sage tangle
see, there will be hundred words of beer description or a quote from mission control going down easy. And then theres words like Driller.
shell vine
It works, but less than excavator, demo is just a small part of the job
main role is digging tunnels
would you have a word for the machine that makes tunnels ?
shell vine
that thing
sage tangle
I just mixed it up with BTM which is the Betäubungsmittelgesetz regarding drugs in german.
That's a Tunnelbohrmaschine
TBM
sage tangle
by the way, those are compound words 😛
shy pivot
and it's derived from "forage" in french
shell vine
We call it 'tunnelier' in french
shy pivot
tunnelier sounds ok
tunnel
tunnelier is man working on tunnel
makes sense
IN ROUMANIEN DOE
shell vine
pretty appropriate then
sage tangle
Just wait until you get to translate enemy creep names
shell vine
or the word plays
shy pivot
there's technically the verb for that
to forage
forje
whatever
we don't really have a name for the guy doing it
solid bough
a forager?
shy pivot
yes
shell vine
shell vine
they are danish
sage tangle
😄
shy pivot
the company?
shell vine
in copenhagen
solid bough
🇩🇰
shell vine
too late, got a screen of that
shy pivot
of what?
dunno what you mean
y'all taking interns? ❤️ @solid bough
or junior developers? ❤️ ❤️
solid bough
possibly
sage tangle
what have we done
shy pivot
lemme slide my CV in y'all's DM's real quick 👀
nah, I'm just fucking about, but God damn, I didn't know the company was danish
Peeked some people saying it's from the nordic parts of Europe but was thinking maybe swedish or norwegian
sage tangle
you have to be in denmark to get employed by GSG
shy pivot
ok off topic due to excitement, back to slamming my head against the wall
solid bough
only thing left is Denmark, lol
shy pivot
or iceland
shy pivot
@sage tangle I'm doing my University in Denmark, been here since 2017 :3
graduated AP degree in Computer Science in january and now pimping on that Web Development Bachelor/Top-Up
they had no backend programme where I wanted : (
shy pivot
👀
5+ years of experience in the industry
bachelor graduated in computer science
yeh nah, destiny gonna wait a bit
full time
shell vine
shy pivot
yea ik
but I'd rather not ruin the first impression and attempt to apply once my CV has a bit more to show in the field 😅
just a graduation and an internship won't make the cut
shell vine
shy pivot
Stop bully me
shell vine
You can always ask, one who never tries never wins
short abyss
rooCry
shy pivot
yeah but as I said
first impressions and all that
as much fun as hanging around the office and making the coffees and stuff would be, I'd like to get stuff to do into the meat of things and actually help with the game's well being 😄
and I don't feel at all qualified enough for that just yet
shell vine
All internships aren't about coffee making you know (I also give my interns copies and sweeping to do)
sage tangle
Giving massages to jacobs feet
shell vine
FIne, I won't mention the subject again (but you should still give it a try, maybe for the holidays ?)
shy pivot
why would you put those words in that order @sage tangle
sage tangle
shy pivot
how similar is unity to UE4?
shell vine
Can't tell you, not my line of work
Although you could still ask Jacob if your CV is around what they are looking for...
shy pivot
I'll be forced to have an internship next year so maybe I'll apply
and if that somehow happens, I'll see where it can go from there, but those are pipe dreams for the time being 😄
ok, we've been off topic as shit, back to work
shell vine
You have it then
shy pivot
ye
for the thing
not the man doing the thing
deep dive
ok to translate
elite deep dive
deadass it would just be [Translation] with (Elite) in paranthesis
like, the most fitting
how do I bloody integrate elite into that
shell vine
is there no adjectivs in romanian ?
Also, integrate it as you said, (elite)
if it's the most fitting, then it's good
shell vine
How about "[Deep Dive] for the elite"
leaden sapphire
Professional [Deep Dives], perhaps?
shell vine
Then, [Deep Dive] (elite) or [Deep Dive] (elite version)
sage tangle
We did
Deep Dive
Tiefenexpedition (Deep Expedition)
Elitentiefenexpedition
shell vine
🥳
shy pivot
also, am I being too excited? Do I come off as a bit too annoying due to the enthusiasm? I kinda feel like it and I'm tryina tone it down
shell vine
Nah, it's fine, first folder done, only 2 to go
(It really is fine, most (if not all) of us are here to help making the game better, so you being hyped for this is totally cool)
sage tangle
yes everything is fine
shell vine
no, you can score points with empty mugs
shy pivot
true
shell vine
maybe the hammers as well ? not sure
sage tangle
gotta ask. #wiki-related-chatroom
shell vine
lemme guess, no word for kick ?
shy pivot
it would be literally "hitting with leg"
sage tangle
Your language really is weird 😮
Never make fun of german again. Let's all make fun of romanian instead
shy pivot
huh
shell vine
shell vine
What word would you use for the "Kick press 'e'" line ?
that shows up when close to a barrel
small kernel
@shy pivot Are you asking what is "kick"?
shy pivot
nah, what would be a good replacement term since "kick" translated literally sounds like shite in my language
to kick = to shoot
but even that sounds bad
small kernel
you can use translation dictionaries for translation, in turkish I'm using tureng site and then I'm rewriting sentences for turkish word
shy pivot
throw is hand related
shell vine
'propel' ?
shy pivot
absolutely not lmao
shell vine
'running out of words'
shy pivot
hit would be closeish enough
shell vine
'do something'
shy pivot
since that's just hitting with anything
shell vine
'shoe'
shy pivot
local man ran out of ideas lmao
shy pivot
if you wanna kick a ball in football for instance, you can also say you're shooting the ball
you go for a shoot
small kernel
in turkish, translated as kicking to hit an object with his foot and that's "kick"
shy pivot
"in less than 100 shoots"
that "shoots" sounds like shit in romanian
also Barrel Hoop lmao
shell vine
would 'foot hit' work ?
shy pivot
"The Circle with Barrels"
shell vine
more like "barrel throw"
latent wadi
try to think of it like some sort of basketball, if it helps you finding puns or wordplays
small kernel
you can see other translated language below, you can create an idea by translating it into your own language
shy pivot
coups de pied
shell vine
yup, foot hits
shy pivot
I had 8 years of french in school
and I still can barely get around it
can I comment on my own translation so that others will know what I had troubles with?
small kernel
"in less than 100 kicks" its about, kick barrels less than 100 kicks (shot)
shell vine
of course, although you should keep it in english, since the comments are for all languages
shy pivot
Of course
shell vine
@slim verge on crowdin ?
slim verge
No
shy pivot
here?
slim verge
on this channel.
sage tangle
he maent this channel
slim verge
xD
shy pivot
bruh
shell vine
I wasn't that active
shy pivot
I should really type in one message a bit more
shell vine
maybe, but then he would read it all
shy pivot
Is there a way to see the things I already translated? Since they disappeared for me after a refresh.
shell vine
Alright, gtg eat, see you later (maybe)
and yes, try the three bars next to the search bar
shy pivot
Bet
Have a good one lad and thanks a lot for the help!
Achievements such as "That's Not How You Play This Game"
Are you supposed to also have capital on every word in the translation as well?
small kernel
you don't have to translate all the words exactly. you can also translate by adding new meaning to your own language, whatever suits you.
shy pivot
yeah but I mean if you should have capital letters at the start of every word
for that achievement in particular
small kernel
if every word starts with a capital letter, you do it with a capital letter for your language yeah
shy pivot
ty
small kernel
you're welcome 🙂
shy pivot
Should names like "Abyss Bar" be translated?
Since those might be a bit confusing since the sign above the bar literally says "Abyss Bar" regardless of the language you set the game to
sage tangle
No
small kernel
I don't translated Abyss Bar
sage tangle
Abyss Bar and Beer names are untranslated in most of the languages
sage tangle
we used exactly that in german
sage tangle
sad
shy pivot
ok now how the fuck would one translate mission control
sage tangle
Kontrollzentrum
just show the other translations below
you can always show them
and orientate yourself on those, its really helpful
shy pivot
I looked
None help
It's either str8 up "Mission Control"
or whatever fits in their language
sage tangle
thats what translation is
slim verge
@shy pivot alright, I saw you asked a few questions, do some of those still need answering ?
Talking about Crowdin specifically
shy pivot
none come particularly to mind at the moment but I'll let you know
shy pivot
bulk detonator = massive detonator?
leaden sapphire
or "detonator with bulky part over him" if you have a word for that
like warts, pimples, lumps...
shell vine
@shy pivot About the capital letters thing, for french, we chose to only use them for proper nouns and sentence starts, meaning we took them off in all instances of multiple words with a capital letter each. It does not mean you should do it, it means this is up to you : if you have some cases in romanian that use capital letters on the start of every word (to emphasize a point for example), then sure, do it, if you never have that in your language, it might a good thing to consider taking them off.
shy pivot
I know that
I was talking exclusively for that achievement since none of those words are supposed to have capital letter in the middle of the sentence
It looks good but that's about it
Aesthetics
sage tangle
Apparently they fixed 'Bring bosco' getting too long and intersecting the checkbox?
by moving the checkbox
shy pivot
(dwarf) going down = incapacitated?
shell vine
It works
shrugs
shy pivot
perk = attribute?
leaden sapphire
Not really sure its only an attribute. Passive ones are attributes, but active ones are more like "abilities". Try to find a word which is a compromise between both if you can.
If you can't, then "attribute" or "abiity" would both somehow do the job
shy pivot
I mean
in one way, you could say that an attribute can be passive or active
but an ability sounds mostly active
That's enough for me for today. A whooping 1%.
imma go pass out
leaden sapphire
Good job 🙂 🙂 Enough for the first day, I will say, and it will get better with time. Thanks for contributing to the game, once you see your contribution ingame, you'll love it
Have a good night
shy pivot
Thanks for the kind words. Cya tommorow!
fresh wharf
There's definitely not enough space:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/626997595952381953/685148309404516371/Screenshot_2.png
anomaly and warning don't fit together
solid bough
@shell vine That would be hard to pull off. I know it makes sense for the things that are already in-game, but I think it would be hard to distinguish making the builds for this. Once we're out of hotfix land, we branch off the versions for the new content, so it might not be that easy to do separate builds for this purpose. I'll check.
Singular/Plurals should be doable. I'll put in the request.
Not sure what you mean with the compound strings limited to the max?
shell vine
I mean the use of compound strings (although logical from a coding point, since it reduces the total amount of string in the game) makes situations where translation is made impossible. So trying to make all of these combinations as a single string would greatly help the translation effort.
sage tangle
Jacob, do / did you pass on our sticky list?
solid bough
Not yet
shy pivot
Can some1 provide a bit more context to this one?
What's this mission about?
Objective, what planet, etc.
shell vine
These are the words that make the mission names
shell vine
There are two lists : firstnames and lastnames
and the game take a word at random from each list, and these make the name of the mission
shell vine
(I would advise not trying to translate these for now)
shy pivot
Yeah, this feels like a lot of headache
shell vine
It is doable, but complicated to do well
If you are around here in the evenings, we can get in vocal for the how to on translating these, but I would really advise leaving all mission names and related things to the lowest priority
shy pivot
Yeah I'm usually free during evenings so just pop a ping when you feel like it
where's the "insert empty tank" thing?
gas extractor on extractor pod doesn't ring any bell
shell vine
insert empty tank ?
shy pivot
yes
shell vine
not implemented yet
shy pivot
oh
shell vine
@solid bough Sorry to disturb, but just to be sure, the gas extractor has not yet made it to the game, right ?
shy pivot
Is it akin to a fuel tank? Just for contextual translation purposes.
is there any purpose to translate those marked as "OldUpgrades" or similar?
Since I assume they're not in the game anymore
Extra Fuel Tank is now Expanded Fuel Tanks for instance
shy pivot
@sage tangle @shell vine can you explain word for word how does " Cycle Updates" sound in your languages respectively?
Bc I can't think of a proper replacement for this "See latest patch news" sorta deal
shell vine
We use "cycle of the updates"
shy pivot
is there a way to see the info screen outside of the first login for that session?
shell vine
Not that I know of, but I never searched for one
leaden sapphire
@shy pivot "cycle updates" for us (spanish) is "review updates", since it lets you go through all of the update notes. The term "cycle" refers to the fact that it goes through them in order and starts again when finished, but if no word matches that in your language or makes proper sense, then just go for the clear one which is a button to revise the notes, no matter their sequence or any other feature. Should be easier that way.
shy pivot
I just used "Actualizari" which is basically "Updates"
solid bough
@shell vine Nope. Not sure it's even a thing anymore.
shy pivot
These are dev commands, right?
shy pivot
Hmm
sage tangle
@shy pivot don't touch mission names, you'll need to do those systematically
shy pivot
yeah I started ignoring them
sage tangle
Either do what you're comfortable with first, or seeing how much it is at first prioritize by stuff which explains the game and is seen a lot by new players
- stuff which explains gameplay (mission control intros)
- weapon descriptions
- perks
- oc descriptions and deep dives (endgame)
shell vine
(and beers, because 
)
sage tangle
Yes, today's special indeed at least
Enemy names and mission names are basically low priority
Ah biome names and mutator names I find important
shy pivot
I might legit be able to get a funky name for all the beers
As opposed to all the regular words such as "Driller"
shell vine
Ressources or objects found in caves or not important
sage tangle
As are beernames
The logos shown ingame remain englisj
So translating beer NAMES might bring more confusion
shell vine
We chose not to change the beers, because we considered them as brands
sage tangle
Same
sage tangle
Oh, try to use 'terms'
They are shown as dottet lines under important words in crowdin
If you stick to those you'll never have different translations for the same thing
You can also change it and add your languages equivalent
So the next time it shows up, just mouse over it
Extremely useful
shy pivot
Fair enough, I mostly use them for context
I got another friend on board to help me translate this stuff
shy pivot
"Rocket here, Bosco!"
is it an issue if I change the order since it would make more sense in Romanian?
"Bosco, rocket here!"
(the translation I mean, not the original string)
fresh wharf
it's shout and that means you will still hear bosco at the end
and it's easier to match shouts and its subtitles when they have the same structure
shy pivot
ah, fair enough
sage tangle
There's no problem at all to change the sentence around
That's actually half of my corrections of old already translated strings
Wording, and putting the sentence in order so it actually sounds as if some human being would say it
It's a good thing to make it as natural to your language and the local ... Behaviour? And grammar as possible
You'll notice the most on weapon and oc and mod descriptions imo.
If you translate them too closely it may not make sense in your tongue
sage tangle
Jacob, sorry to keep bothering you. Those sticky lists are meant to make your (and our) Job easier so we collect them and put our sorrows and problems in the sticky, and you can just put it on someone's desk. Even with last edited date :)
It's only useful if it at least is on the desk of the Dev responsible to look over / fix it. Especially now we're near 1.0 and have quite a handful of new translators busy with implementing their language or near 100% like our Turkish guys now.
I seperated the stickies into: false or missing (I guess less work required to fix?), and language issues (sticky#3) which may need more work on DEVs part.
I have no idea of your workflows (let alone workload) and stuff, so I'm not sure if repeatedly asking for it makes sense or is more pestering you than useful...
Oh, @solid bough 
solid bough
a reminder once in a while is good - I still need to pass it on to someone else, so there's a few links in the chain, that needs to be aligned. 😄
I'd still like some screenshots to go with some of it - it's hard to relay to others where stuff is looking wrong without images.
sage tangle
We do post them all the time.
Should I add links to the stickies?
shell vine
You could make a channel dedicated to only that, so anything inside it would be relevant
sage tangle
Isn't there #babelfish-lounge already?
If I add links to the stickies they increase in size to like double.
I added the descriptions where to find stuff ingame, I thought that would help instead of screenshots for each?
solid bough
yeah, adding link to the stickies would be nice - too much happens in here for me to follow
shy pivot
I don't wanna get political or anything
but what the fuck is a whale piper
I know it's some sort of a mockery insult or whatever, but fuck me if I can get anything remotely similar to pop to mind
slim verge
Basically, you could say it's along the line of "bonehead", "moron" or something like that
it's just slang
any swearing of that sort would work.
leaden sapphire
Yep, something like a "loser"
sage tangle
Cries. Doing descriptions isn't enough. Gonna go through the channel for screenshots. Brace for stickies the length of Karl's beard
I still haven't translated whalepiper because I'm not sure ... If the dwarves call others'You ugly son of a bitch' the insult whalepiper should be more harsh than that, if they feel the need to come up with this word?
🤔
shy pivot
something along the lines of dumbfuck
I feel like I'm trying to go very soft with the insults
or pretty PG
since the harsh version are really harsh in our language lmao
sage tangle
No
THOSE be literal
They say son of a bitch
Your work is not to make the game family friendly
shy pivot
I get your point but like
That shit's extremely fucking vulgar lmao
Would be fun to see stuff like that in a game
sage tangle
They call each other arsewipe
It's actually not. Just other DEVs tend to be damn pussies because of family friendly guidelines which are forced over Apple store and appealing to 12 YO.
shy pivot
no no
not the game variant
those are chill and just random casual shit
but if I were to translate them, I"d have to go extremely fucking vulgar to get the point across lmao
like I don't mind ass piss cunt shit fuck bitch etc in english, it's just part of everyday vocabulary
sage tangle
You don't have sob in Romanian?
shy pivot
sobbing as in crying?
shy pivot
oh yeah
uhhhh
lowkey ngl
most of our insults rely on insulting the other's mother and dead ancestors/relatives
not that often the person themselves
sage tangle
Fecior de curva says google
sage tangle
Google translate. Dwarven line to Romanian
shy pivot
ok yeah that's the literal translation word by word
but it won't make that much sense in romanian
as in, it's said by a robot rather than a person
sage tangle
You have the chance to use SOB in a game.
Then be true to the game and translate it as such
Equivalent to Romanian. If Romania is a hard place with vulgar insults, so be it
You're a translator now, not a censor
shy pivot
game is 18+ yes?
sage tangle
They use that word, so just use it
shy pivot
bet
i'm not responsible for what's about to happen with the insults on my localization
sage tangle
That was actually the same in German. Like sob has a literal translation which everybody uses and is really common. The old translators made it ridiculously mild because for some reason they felt it didn't fit?
Like what the heck, the DEVs put something in, it's not your place to change the meaning or impact just because you're too sensitive for it.
shy pivot
oh trust me, I don't have the slightest issue with that
Just wanted to make sure the devs don't get any trouble for it if the localization is a bit too much
get what I mean?
sage tangle
Thanks you just reminded me I wanted to change arsewipe.
It was 'idiot' instead of the equivalent 'Assface' in german
shy pivot
No worries, I'll have to modify a few of the insult lines.
Thanks for clarifying the situation!
small kernel
is crowdin site shut down? I can't enter the site
small kernel
okay this is works thanks
sage tangle
It loaded a long time for me too an hour or so ago
@shy pivot
DEVs included it in the game like this and specifically said a week ago in their Dev stream they actually wanted to make the game appeal to an older audience and tried to push their PGI rating ;)
shy pivot
@ Developer
I love you guys
is it ok if victory move = victory dance?
even tho they're really dances? It's about the closest I can get to it within the context
sage tangle
There's finger pistols, handstand
sage tangle
I did victory pose
Siegespose
shy pivot
what bout that
sage tangle
Or yes that's good
shy pivot
is this one of the dwarves walking into the cloud or the scout shouting as he's about to throw a phero nade?
shy pivot
come again?
fresh wharf
all swarmers bite only you cause you're pherod
fresh wharf
yes
shy pivot
he has pheros?
shy pivot
doesn't he have like... literally 2 attacks? Slam and Fireball?
shy pivot
I do and I s2g I've never seen anything of that nature. Is it only on higher Haz or some stuff?
We always end up fighting him alone
fresh wharf
it's his basic behaviour
he does like 1 fireball and 1 phero thing
and then repeat
if close then spikes
shy pivot
He does 1 fireball and 1 slam that one shots you if you're too close
None of them summon swarms
fresh wharf
he does slam only if someone's close
shy pivot
Observable behaviour so far was fireball and crawling as fast as possible towards a player so he can get in Slam Range
But it seemed like at times there were 2 slams, one with the fire spikes as you mentioned and a regular one.
fresh wharf
from wiki
Spits a ball that explodes into swarmers on contact, which target the hit dwarf
from creatures page
shy pivot
Ok I was actually unaware because I never saw it happen or at least it looked like a regular slam.
Ty for the context.
shy pivot
Should we assume Mission Control is usually talking to a single person as opposed to a whole team?
For the purposes of solo missions existing
sage tangle
I decided for team.
If you're alone he's talking to you and Bosco
I found it important to emphasize the team aspect of the game
sage tangle
I don't think so, and hope not
sage tangle
GSG Bosco with voice when? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ymMrwlsbtrI#searching
shy pivot
I still got a long way to go till I get to that point
But can someone explain the main process behind how the mission names with first/last name should be approached?
rough matrix
So, do we translate beer names?
leaden sapphire
@shy pivot there is a string called {firstname} {lastname} which represents the names of the missions. In this string, all words with the label "firstname" in Crowdin (after searching in the search box on top of the strings list) represent the first word that will appear in the missions name, and the ones with "lastname" label will be the ones showing up last. That way, if you want the name "sticky cave" you will need to leave the mission name string as it is, translate sticky as an adjective which goes first and translate cave as a noun which show last.
However, in some languages,like French, the nouns to first and then the adjectives. This means you need to invert {firstname} {lastname} and convert it to {lastname} {firstname} so that it shows "cave sticky" instead. You can do the variations you want to that string to make names fit (like " {firstname} of {lastname}" or "{lastname} of the {firstname}") to make the sentence match your language needs to create all possible names.
However, keep in mind things like gender and number. For example, translate sticky (singular) and cave (singular), and not one in singular and one in plural. Or use a noun in feminine and an adjective in feminine as well (French team decided to use only feminine adjectives and nouns, for example). That is the most difficult part, especially with languages that, unlike English, have variations in feminine, masculine and even neutral.
Does that make sense to you? Would you require further examples or details?
shy pivot
In theory, it makes sense. I'll have to try it in practice.
Thank you for the thorough explanation
leaden sapphire
Let me know if you need more explanation. Or examples, or to check your example.
small kernel
guys I wanna ask one question
I have exams next week and I need to focus on my school so I can't join in here for 2 weeks but I can join on weekends
that's not problem, is it?
fresh wharf
Help when you can, it's not your job after all
School is obviously more important
Be a good boi
small kernel
yeah I knew it thanks for that
shell vine
@small kernel Focue on your life first mate, we all come here to give a hand, but this needs to stay a low priority compared to your life.
Take the time you need, it will never be a problem
solid bough
Life comes first. See you on the other side of exams 
small kernel
we will see of course thanks jacob! 🙂
@shy pivot there is one guy helping for your romanian language, he name is GrimAcheron on crowdin
rough aurora
whats with romanian language? ^
shell vine
It was just added for translation, so everything is to do.
sage tangle
Well you can join ^^
small kernel
it's probably removed from the game, I can't find this overclock ingame
small kernel
I want to give suggestion to you, translate important things first. Menu, weapons, weapons equipment, enemies and a lot of things like that. You can translate overclocks then
regal heart
This one is in the main OC bonus directory so it should still be in the game
There is a separate CUT directory for the removed OC
shy pivot
well I don't have access to it / can't see it
shell vine
Just checked all the OC's for the burt, couldn't find anything like 'bomb on hit'
This does not mean it's not in-game, it can be something the devs are working on, something that will be added later for example. There are also strings related to abandoned ideas.
regal heart
Check with other weapons it’s related to the minelets overclock
zukovs got the same kind of file.
shell vine
nope, nothing there as well
regal heart
Looking at the extracted games file I got, not on crowdin
shell vine
From the available strings, bomb on hit is probably what the oc was before it became the minelet things
since minelets is called bomb on hit
regal heart
BombOnHit seems to be the internal name for the minelets OC
Here you can seet the seven OC for the brt7
unused/removed OC are in the CUT directory, bonus/malus effect are in the OCBonusPenalty directory
shell vine
I got that, confirms it
regal heart
I should start to use crowdin, it could be helpfull even when datamining it seems.
shell vine
crowdin is a gold mine for data on the game, to the point the devs keep everything from it until the last moment to avoid spoilers
Imagine the damage if the patch notes were released 2-3 days before an update...
shell vine
@sage tangle Iirc, you said you had a way to add to the "terms" in crowdin the translation for a specific language?
sage tangle
yes
sage tangle
PM me
shy pivot
the word union
a more direct translation in romanian would be syndicate
but union would still make sense sorta
which one should I go with?
shell vine
french went with syndicate
sage tangle
I first went for gewerkschaft, which helps employees against their employers. but changed it back to union because its long, sounds off, and meh
shell vine
Just a mod, I believe...
shy pivot
should be a regular upgrade for driller's plasma charger
but it seems to be absent from the wiki
likely removed
shell vine
happens a lot
shy pivot
is there a way to see how much have you translated?
shell vine
yes
shy pivot
I mean personal translations, not the percentage for the language
shy pivot
right, this takes me to the languages "hub"
shell vine
shy pivot
Should the animal name in the quote marks be translated?
Since they're all animal names. Fox, Owl, Barracuda, Mole
Also how would you separate a translation for Milestones and Achievements
if the word is very similar
small kernel
Should the animal name in the quote marks be translated?
@shy pivot you can tranlate them of course
shy pivot
byotiful
wicked scroll
some translations are up to you
"fox" is the name of the model
so it goes down to your country rules about translating or not things like that
brittle stratus
I don't translate names like "praetorian" but something like "cave crawler" can easily be translated
shy pivot
wouldn't it be a bit inconsistent to only translate some mob names?
unless the term makes sense as is in your native language
brittle stratus
In my language it wouldn't make sense not to translate cave crawler :P
shy pivot
fair enough
regal heart
@small kernel in the files I got, despite it being named ChargedVelocity the description and effect are about the normal shot velocity, it’s the T2 effect for the EPC
small kernel
@small kernel in the files I got, despite it being named ChargedVelocity the description and effect are about the normal shot velocity, it’s the T2 effect for the EPC
@regal heart so this is about epc?
regal heart
yes
Except that the file I got only talk about increase for the normal projectile speed, not the charged one
ChargeBlaster is the internal name for EPC
small kernel
alright got it thanks
regal heart
you’re welcome
shell vine
@regal heart the string that was refered earlier is very probably one that was not used, crowdin is full of those.
Or one that will be used later (very rare these days)
shell vine
We have a word for that in french, so we translated it (we translated all of the names for the enemies, using word that describe said enemy if the translation sounded off/was not possible)
sage tangle
Glyphid farter
Boomy boy and big boomy boy
Hentai nightmare
Flying shit and screecher
shy pivot
lul
shell vine
yes
shy pivot
Are these supposed to be translated assuming they're the console commands in the experimental build so they're just syntax variables?
shy pivot
Progress bois
small kernel
Gooj job mate keep going
short abyss
You're gonna make more progress than i did in over a year
Although it's more of an extra hobby for me along with education
shy pivot
same
atm doing my Bachelor in Web Development 😄
but i'm bored as shit and got too much free time in between looking for a student job
so I just play or translate or both
@solid bough sorry for bothering but things involving minecarts or rails, are they cut/removed content or upcoming? Just to know if it's worth translating
solid bough
very old remains, skip 😄
shy pivot
Thank you sir
solid bough
shy pivot
solid bough
shy pivot
lmao
fickle ivy
Why isn't that a proper drg discord emoji yet, i know there is plenty of slots
solid bough
fickle ivy
shy pivot
Same for Gas Extractor related inquiries Jacob?
solid bough
yeah
shy pivot
The one thing we're now left with are the thoughts of what they could've been
Rippy in Kippy
Is there any way you can actually get banned from the game?
fickle ivy
No
shell vine
Since it's peer to peer, I don't think it could be possible
shy pivot
like
since even the devs just ask for discretion if someone is using cheats
as opposed to claiming it's prohibited or whatever
fickle ivy
They don't want that kind of stuff spreading
shell vine
Using cheats is fine, as long as you don't ruin others games
shy pivot
Of course, that's totally understandable
Did they ever say anything about dedicated servers?
fickle ivy
They cant stop people from using it but the least they can do is stop people from talking about them on their discord/reddit
shell vine
Yes, they said it's not happening
fickle ivy
If you want to pay for them ;)
shy pivot
Fair enough
shell vine
From what I remember about the stream, they said it would be 'complicated' to implement
shy pivot
How would you separate a translation for Milestones and Achievements if the word is very similar
sage tangle
To the question what was a cornerstone in their way while developing, and they said something along the lines that with their current code from old times it would be difficult / hard / complicated to add dedicated servers, and afaik they don't see the need to invest that much time at this moment. So it's unclear IF we ever get it.
I would love to get ded servers, its my #1 wish after the game is complete :3
shy pivot
I haven't had that many issues with P2P so far, apart from the occasional hiccup but it works decently well even when connecting EU to US
sage tangle
I tend to host for that reason, just to be sure
shy pivot
same lul
small kernel
How would you separate a translation for Milestones and Achievements if the word is very similar
@shy pivot achievments about steam achivements, milestones is about ingame acihevements and I translated 'miles stone' to 'kilometre taşları'
sage tangle
but I have a good connection, my friends dont mind and I just got an upgrade to double up and download last week so ❤️
shy pivot
I know how both words are used but they're more or less the same in my language @small kernel
Asking what would be a good approach to make them a bit different in context?
i.e.
there's the button for "Reset Achievements"
but I can't use the same word bc it would also mean "Reset Milestones"
and that's not exactly what it do
sage tangle
In German it's quite lit. the same,
Achievements being something you achieve, and Milestones like markers on the way
small kernel
Let me try to create ideas in your mind, "mile" about km and speed, 'stone' about stone and rock. You can create an new idea maybe. This was a bit ridiculous xD
shy pivot
stone and rock mean borderline the same thing
but we somehow have 2 words for them so whatever
can't say the same for milestone and achievements
: (
small kernel
you already know what the stone means
shy pivot
ok lemme put it this way
if you wanna translate milestone
almost literally
it's one of these bad boys on the side of the road lmao
small kernel
I use translate for you language, kilometru pietre maybe?
shy pivot
kilometer rocks
it's very... driving related in any other context
the word is 2 words put together so I can't translate it like that bc it loses the OG meaning
translating while grinding the "dance 1 hour achievement" in the background is awfully relaxing
small kernel
you can look turkish language maybe
small kernel
romanian is really hard xD
shy pivot
it's such a bruh language
like
language is 90% latin
so I'm hoping for my fellow italians and spaniards to have anything close to a translation I could use
naaaaaah, they actually have words for those terms
shy pivot
fresh wharf
something
fickle ivy
Floodlights are old stuff, but i dont remember them in the strings
fresh wharf
aren't they on pe?
shy pivot
How did you guys translate Mine Head?
short abyss
literally
shy pivot
See
I would do that
but "mine" is the thing in which dwarves go to dig shit in folklore
and those 2 words put together don't really tango
short abyss
mine is both a noun and a verb
shy pivot
well you got lucky
short abyss
next best thing to mining is digging
slim verge
Well, you know
the "head" is basically the drill
Mine Head is just a plaform with a drill of some sort on it
maybe work around something like that ?
(Here, it's not really a drill but I guess it's more something like a shredder)
shy pivot
will keep Mine Head until revision and hope I get ideas on the way
slim verge
That's a good idea to do that
shell vine
We did something like 'mining head' in french
small kernel
guys this is which "reloading" word or string?
shy pivot
I think it's about the Key
like
R for reload
or am I misunderstanding the question?
fresh wharf
mb it's when your hook is on cd
small kernel
where is this sentence or where exactly is it, I don't understand it
fresh wharf
it's written reloading under crosshair
shy pivot
when you got your grapple hook out and it's on cd?
fresh wharf
ya
small kernel
it's written reloading under crosshair
@fresh wharf but I'm never see any reloading sentences under crosshair
fresh wharf
ah it says recharging
ye it wasn't for hook
I was right
it was for zipline gun
small kernel
oh okay thanks for help mate 
fresh wharf
np
How do translations get approved?
there are guys with supah permissions which watch all over whole file, edit stuff and approve the best variant
they can delete all your translations in 2 clicks
so be careful with them 👀
fresh wharf
they play the game I guess
shy pivot
I'm talking exclusively from a language perspective
Since translators are about as reliable as they get
fresh wharf
wdym
shy pivot
How can someone check a translation is correct and phrased properly if they're not familiar with that language
Since online translators are mostly potato
shell vine
The proofreaders (that's the name), are translators as well, from that language. For the moment, there are none for romanian
fresh wharf
proofreaders usually know language well
shy pivot
So the guys that would approve it?
fresh wharf
and in some cases even better than translators
shy pivot
If those that approve the translations are also native to the language they're assigned to, then yeah that makes all the sense.
fresh wharf
there are 2 levels of proofreaders
1 is lang proofreader
and 2 is project proofreader
shell vine
I heard, but this wasn't confirmed, that the devs will hire professional proofreaders before release to check what was done...
fresh wharf
there are 1 or 2 project proofreaders iirc
slim verge
So far, it's a rumor yeah
shy pivot
And how did you guys apply for Community Translators aka got the role?
slim verge
I just got into that channel and said : "Hey, I wanna help with the translation"
fresh wharf
some time ago it was one of the rewards, but now it's just subjective I think
shell vine
For the DRG project, most proofreaders are trnaslators that were active for long enough/precise enough to be granted the role.
fresh wharf
or when language is abandoned and some active guy starts doing good stuff he gets it automatically
shell vine
And the role is given once you have a good amount translated in crowdin, and that you pester a moderator/dev for it ;)
fresh wharf
yeah exactly - good, I don't think it's defined atm
shell vine
It is not defined
shy pivot
lemme check
shell vine
How many are you, working on Romanian ?
shy pivot
3rd one was likely a one and done deal since I know the guy
but me and Grim are handling this
fresh wharf
shy pivot
fresh wharf
I got my role at like 12k or 13k, it was reward for 25% translated words
so you're not far from that
shy pivot
I'm just doing it cause it's enjoyable
fresh wharf
nice to hear