xbox-and-windows-store

[lean rock]

guess RNGesus hates me

[obtuse fiber]

i think if i remember correctly theres over 280 cores for all dwarfs including victory moves but i could be wrong or they added more since i last did that count @lean rock

[pliant cloak]

they did add weapon overclocks

[obtuse fiber]

sorry that count was cosmetics only

[lean rock]

I do try to always choose cosmetics when able

[obtuse fiber]

each dwarf got 70 each but probably more now

id focus on one dwarf/class or 2 for rotation to max out 2 dwarfs quickly for cores

unless you wanna edit your save file lol

[worthy lily]

anyone want to do an edd???

[pliant cloak]

i know im way off on hours lol, but #lfg-xbox-microsoft

[uneven mortar]

I'm hosting a EDD if anyone wants to join

also how do I get access to Xbox/MS pod 1 or 2 chat

[uneven mortar]

never mind I've got other thing to do, I'll try again later

[pliant cloak]

And, despite the closed lobby, I recommend you to read my msg lol

[obtuse fiber]

Nobody ever reads chat that’s why I’ve given up on telling people to go to #lfg-xbox-microsoft

[obtuse fiber]

The thing is that they need to redo this channel and have it say for people of the Xbox and Microsoft version to provide technical support when possible and provide specific platform bug report

[uneven mortar]

That doesn't answer the question, how do I get access to Xbox/Ms pod 1 or 2 chat?

[uneven mortar]

Sorry we're you saying something is wrong with it at the moment didn't realise

[pliant cloak]

Having the Xbox role lol

[tropic bone]

so how's the multiplayer fix that was gonna come this week?

[obtuse fiber]

never showed up @tropic bone

im still stuck to 60 FPS on my xbox while it gets fixed

i wish they would hurry up so i can enjoy more FPS and multiplayer on windows build

[rotund dagger]

They said they were working on getting a patch out this past week, but ultimately patches come out when they're ready. It must have simply needed more time

[olive minnow]

Looking for people to play with. Trying to u lock season 2 weapons

[obtuse fiber]

Here’s hoping the patches they release fix it

I’m getting tired of this it seems like it happens every time they either upgrade engine or the network code

i think im going going to @ people in #lfg-xbox-microsoft without saying anything from now on lol

[elfin rock]

Anyone know why the save file transfer from steam to windows isnt working anymore? It seems to just treat it as a new save for some reason.

[unreal radish]

Did you follow the instructions exactly as written?

Because if you don’t follow them exactly, it won’t work.

[obtuse fiber]

You know for the love of Karl I can’t find the post on Reddit that said after season 2 they will be starting on series upgrade

[regal breach]

Update is starting to roll out now, it may take up to an hour to appear

[flat crest]

it’s appeared for me

Just wondering is this talking about when a barrel goes though the barrel hoop?

Thinking about it you might be talking about the Tritilyte ME

[fierce dagger]

@obtuse fiber Whats the experts verdict? Did the patch fix things?

[round gulch]

Hi. New to the game here. At what point can I add my friend for co-op?

[jade ingot]

Hello everyone

[regal breach]

hello

[light niche]

Anytime

[round gulch]

Even during the tutorial?

[regal breach]

no, thats the exception

[cobalt depot]

And unless your friend is on Steam

[flat crest]

Hiya peeps

[tawdry portal]

Anyone know if the multiplayer crashing is fixed?

[autumn relic]

Hey, so if you get the game on steam can you cross play with Xbox?

[rotund dagger]

No, the Steam version does not have any crossplay available

[glossy echo]

Did you guys fix promotion menu??

[gusty viper]

any after the tutorial, however you need to complete certain assignments to do certain mission types

should be done in at least 2 days On&Off

[obtuse fiber]

still crashing

and worse by not able to reopen game update before this one i was able to reopen game after crash

@gusty viper is it still crashing for you as well

[gusty viper]

have not booted it up yetm but i haven't even seen anything in #patch-notes-xbox_winstore

[obtuse fiber]

i already booted it up but im still crashing just like i suggested by saying releasing patches by not even trying to fix coding will do nothing to fix crashing

[gusty viper]

so we get patch dumped and this is still a freaking problem

[obtuse fiber]

at least for me it is maybe you might have better luck

at least i can play it on my xbox but that version sucks seeing how its capped at 60FPS vs my computer of uncapped

game looks better on my computer then my series x

the bright side for me at least is i have hundreds of games to play and buy DLC for besides DRG

i buy DLC based on a few things and one of the things i base it on is if i can play the game to its full potential and if im addicted to the game and if the DLC looks nice/cool but most of the points goes towards if i can play the game

[gusty viper]

well thats new

yep i still have the MP bug

i am going to try again but i am going to see what task manager picks up

[obtuse fiber]

yeap i knew we would still have it since they did nothing to fix it

they just thought releasing patches would do something but it does nothing if they didnt try to fix any coding at all

[gusty viper]

Some kind of GPU spike

[obtuse fiber]

thats weird i was able to enjoy spacerig with people and then i went to a new session in mission and i crashed

[gusty viper]

well previously i have crash from someone JOINING me, so it could be a graphic on the dwarfs causing the issue

[obtuse fiber]

or it could be Karl not wanting us to kill bugs with friends anymore lol

[gusty viper]

idk

[obtuse fiber]

either way i solved my problem with crashing by using xbox but i hate that solution lol

id rather play on computer

[gusty viper]

but for there to be a GPU spike, not before the crash, but at the second of the crash. there is some bizarre issue

[obtuse fiber]

it could be trying to load something in and causing a leak in the code somewhere

[gusty viper]

oh i just did some more testing and that spilke happens whever i close a program

closed spotify and it did the same thing

so its somthing else

[obtuse fiber]

im not good at describing things but last time game crashed it was caused by having 3 gunners in game and one of the gunners guns had a memory leak lol

[gusty viper]

did one of them have the medical gown?

[obtuse fiber]

in spacerig session they did not but in mission i couldnt tell you since i crashed right as drop pod doors flew off lol

[gusty viper]

huh

[obtuse fiber]

if u wanna do more testing you could join me

session name is High Level Player

[chilly mason]

is there a channel to gget some help as a new player and game problem?

[obtuse fiber]

right now here

we are testing and finding out how multiplayer crashes the game

[chilly mason]

i have a very powerful pc and the game(i think) is causing reboots of the PC

[obtuse fiber]

are you overclocking anything at all

you can also check events on computer and see whats causing it

[chilly mason]

5950x
kingpin 3090

CPU temps on load are like 68c and GPU is 38-42c

i have drivers but had so much fun 1st time then on 2nd mission with group pc crashed.

then booth up again and on mission load crash

[obtuse fiber]

can you open game at all

right now some people on windows build are crashing doing multiplayer sessions

[chilly mason]

just a kernal power and a few warning for distributed com error

just weird as i cant count the last time i crashed hard reboot

oh well ill jsut wait for a patch

[obtuse fiber]

are GPU drivers up to date

windows also

[chilly mason]

yea i can open it but if i join a game then we start when we are diggin down it reboots

yup up to date

[obtuse fiber]

ok thats weird seeing how @gusty viper and me cant even play multiplayer and you can play it but get rebooted

dumb question but do u happen to own a xbox

[chilly mason]

xsx

yes

[obtuse fiber]

can u play it fine on that

[chilly mason]

never tried i only play on steam mostly unless exclusive

let me see how much it is

[obtuse fiber]

i can play DRG fine on my series x but i like my computer better aka better specs

thankfully if u own DRG on microsoft store its already on xbox for you

[outer roost]

can I get a driler to join our deep dive?

[tawdry portal]

My game is still crashing too : (

[obtuse fiber]

That sucks Microsoft version is always going to be more picky and harder to code it seems for this company

[obtuse fiber]

Steam doesn’t have crossplay at all

This channel is for Microsoft store DRG

[outer roost]

ops

what chat shod i ues?

[obtuse fiber]

#lfg-steam is for steam

[tropic bone]

oh is the multiplayer fixed now with these patches?

nvm, it wasn't fixed

oh well

[tropic bone]

nope not for me, too poor and i only play drg, stellaris(not as of late), and splitgate. with the drg social experience which is what i always play being broken that's pretty much cutting 1/3 of all that i play. a shame really

hoping somethings done next patch ig

[obtuse fiber]

since they cant reproduce that crash i dont think it will be fixed unless devs get help from outside from maybe epic games support

[obtuse fiber]

do u like any PVP games at all

[tropic bone]

spllitgate, and technically stellaris is too but don't know anyone that plays it with the mods i use

[tropic bone]

i also used to play halo infinite but 343i has basically murdered it with bad spaghetti code, no live service, greedy overpriced microtransactions for a restrictive customization system, desync and mp issues galore, less than stellar transparency, and releasing a product that was years away from being content complete, but i can go all day about that mess

[obtuse fiber]

i was thinking you can try out rogue company its a free to play game

[tropic bone]

but recently i've only been playing drg and splitgate

steam?

[obtuse fiber]

Rogue company is on all platforms and is crossplay

That’s a game I’ve been playing since I can’t enjoy DRG on my computer

[tropic bone]

1. when loading into the game, the three empty slots for other dwarfs is missing, and so is the "press c to invite friends" in hud
2. pressing c doesn't do anything.
3. going into the menu and trying to press the + icons, or C for inv doesn't do anything
4. trying to join people's open sessions through the ingame xbox profile ui only flashes the screen and does nothing
5. clicking on any open mp session will show a small [Loading...] prompt with the background blurred, but does absolutely nothing and will "load" for eternity
6. clicking on any open mp session will make it disappear a second later, only to reappear when clicking on another session to join
7. setting a lobby to host:public does nothing as no one can join you, as if you're offline
8. when playing any mission on host:public, the invite friends buttons and pressing C still doesn't function at all
9. when playing any mission on host:public, no one will ever be able to join you mid mission
10. when playing any mission on host:public, you can pause the game as if it's either private or solo

this how how i recreate my bug and what it does. i dont have much crashes, but instead the complete unresponsiveness of multiplayer aspects

[tropic bone]

also i'd look into it but it seems atm there's a major unsolved hacker problem

so i'll wait til thats resolved

[tropic bone]

it almost feels like i've been blacklisted or banned from playing mp and idk why

[obtuse fiber]

That’s not possible for only one game but I’m sure the developers are loving it for me at least lol

They love picking on me at all times since I annoy them a lot lol

[unreal radish]

I think you're being paranoid there

[meager pawn]

That's our nibbles

[celest schooner]

We need to make a sitcom dedicated to Nibbles with this as the punchline.

[obtuse fiber]

who else but quagmire

[rotund dagger]

I love a good laugh track...

[tropic bone]

any news about when the multiplayer issues will be fixed?

[obtuse fiber]

honestly i wanna say never since they cant reproduce that bug at all, they wanna just see if any patches fix it at all which it never will

it sucks to be honest

im losing faith in GSG with more updates they release that causes major problems

[tropic bone]

a shame, really

it honestly feels like drg windows store has been ignored and no one is pushing for any improvements on drgs side. i hope they address it someday.

[tropic bone]

oh cool since you're here when do you think the severe multiplayer bugs for windows store drg going to be resolved? i was hoping it'd be this patch but it sadly wasn't. any word on if it can/is being fixed?

[obtuse fiber]

To be honest I did push them to improve it and they did for certain things

Bjorn even said you wanted us to improve windows build and we did and improve Xbox and they did

But that was several updates ago

Xbox/windows build never use to look like it does now. We use to have a quick join button but was replaced and looks like steam layout because of network rework

[tropic bone]

i truly was planning on buying their cosmetic dlcs, but if i can't show them to anyone then why bother? i really don't want it to be my way of protesting the lack of transparency on this issue. sadly that just seems to be the way the industry works now, if company can't support the players, the players don't support the company. worked for a little bit with halo infinite, but god that being the situation for drg windows is the last thing i want. I love and adore this game, i genuinely recommend it to everyone i know, but i've been feeling ignored with these mp issues in return. how much complaining will it take for them to address it? bc i'm honestly about to drop drg completely so it's not such a pain on my dwarf loving soul, at least until something gets done about it.

it just saddens me, y'know?

[celest schooner]

They’re not ignoring you guys, they’ve said time and time again that they physically cannot reproduce what is causing the issues so that they can easily fix it. Their next best option is to just try to take guesses until they can accurately get it.

[tropic bone]

so it might not ever get fixed then, nice

[celest schooner]

I rather have that than be ignored and the issue unaddressed.

[rotund dagger]

I mean, that's certainly not an impossibility, but it seems improbable given the dedication the devs have shown thus far. You're not wrong to be frustrated, but do understand that for however frustrated you are, the devs are probably more frustrated; there is a problem with their project that is preventing people from enjoying their work, and the cause remains elusive despite their best efforts so the only thing they can do is guess-and-test... and guess-and-test can take a ridiculous amount of time when you're dealing with complex software like a video game...
No one is happy about this situation. The devs have worked through similarly disruptive and similarly difficult-to-fix issues before, and those took considerable amounts of time. I have no reason to believe they'll do anything different this time around

[worthy lily]

hey is the space beach party on the microsft version of drg or is it only avalable on steam?

[heady gate]

I was playing a game, as just as we were about to return to the drop-pod my game crashed on windows. Now when I load up I have lost all of my progress, all my characters are at lvl 1 with nothing completed. Has anyone had this issue before?? Not going to lie it's incredibly disheartening to have all my work in this game go away for nothing, hoping someone has a fix for this :/

[rotund dagger]

Sounds like your local save may have gotten corrupted. Check the Restore Save feature in the Options menu. It will hopefully let you download a recent cloud backup so you don't lose much progress

[rotund dagger]

The beach party event is live on the Microsoft/Xbox version

[heady gate]

@rotund dagger the options in steam menu or in the game menu, and thank you for the help!

[rotund dagger]

Oh, you're on Steam. It's in the in-game options screen on the Microsoft/Xbox version (which is what this channel is for), but I have no reason to believe it's not in the Steam version as well (although I've not bothered to check, personally)

[heady gate]

Yea I just checked, and there are no backups on my steam profile/app 😦

[rotund dagger]

You might want to try the #bug-discussionchannel for help with the Steam version, as this channel is specifically for the Microsoft/Xbox version, and there's enough difference between them that you might find more help specific to the Steam version there

[heady gate]

thank you @rotund dagger I appreciate your help! I'll post in the bug chat as well

[rotund dagger]

Good luck! I hope those saves are there somewhere!

[obtuse fiber]

That might be true but remember I offered my help from showing a video to them all the way to shipping my computer to them to help them

[rotund dagger]

I was only joking about shipping your PC to them. If I were a dev, I would not be willing to accept responsibility for a community member's PC, especially via international shipping, so it would not be an actual option. I'd be surprised if they felt differently

[glossy echo]

I still have a problem with promotion screen

[obtuse fiber]

I stopped promoting so I don’t know if I have that problem or not lol

[glossy echo]

Good lord

[obtuse fiber]

I just checked in a multiplayer session and nothings wrong with mine

[glossy echo]

Ok gotcha

Today is not my day

[mortal vine]

hello anyone wanna help me do solid summit
Tag:Rozex#2851

[obtuse fiber]

Here’s hoping they ask for help sooner rather then later

[wicked whale]

how long is this limited assignment gonna last?

[light niche]

July something

[obtuse fiber]

July 11th

[gusty viper]

CrashReportClient]
bHideLogFilesOption=false
bIsAllowedToCloseWithoutSending=true
CrashConfigPurgeDays=2
CrashReportClientVersion=1.0
DataRouterUrl="https://sentry.io/api/2472973/unreal/d45ffe8f38124715a3aa316b8905c220/"

well well well what is this!?

found this under: "Storage unit name here" / XboxGames / Deep Rock Galactic / Content / FSD / Saved / Crashes

also look in: "Storage unit name here" / XboxGames / Deep Rock Galactic / Content / FSD / Saved / Config / CrashReportClient

the report doesn't enter the file untill you launch the game back up after a crash\

@obtuse fiber

its the same report statement every crash

[obtuse fiber]

where did u find that report at

[gusty viper]

here

[obtuse fiber]

weird my computer cant find it and neither did i

i have 3 drives on my computer only thing i found is crash dumps

i found it but its empty it might be because i installed the game to my OS drive and i defaulted the rest of my games to D Drive

[gusty viper]

witchever drive yoo installed the game into

[obtuse fiber]

it doesnt exist on my OS drive only D Drive

and its empty

[gusty viper]

right click on the Shortcut and see if it tells you its file location

[obtuse fiber]

my xbox games folder is empty

[gusty viper]

so you see a folder on one of your memory units that is named "XboxGames" right?

[obtuse fiber]

i guess thats what happens when i install games on 3 different drives lol

[obtuse fiber]

yes and its empty

[gusty viper]

and there is only one folder?

[gusty viper]

there might be another path for the game

leme check somthing rq

[obtuse fiber]

i finally found it lol

[gusty viper]

nice

try crashing your game again, then launch it back up and there should be a new crash report

[shadow veldt]

So the whole new quick resume thing that's supported. Where you can resume while the game has been in the background and you've been playing something else.

Almost every time I just can't invite people to the game for multiplayer after logging back in. I have to manually force quit. Great addition in theory, but in practice it's become an inconvenience.

[obtuse fiber]

tech that was forcefully added aka by microsoft and when new version comes out it will be better

[obtuse fiber]

i would if it would let me open it up again

i click and nothing happens

[gusty viper]

opening?...

[obtuse fiber]

yeah after a crash i cant reopen the game unless i restart my computer

[gusty viper]

well that's different

[obtuse fiber]

that happened after season 2 was released and it was fixed with patch and now since new patch was released crash happens and i cant reopen it

[gusty viper]

well i can boot the game back up without restarting the computer wth?

[obtuse fiber]

weird looking into more files in game and it says nvidia DLSS but its not in game options

hell it even has discord SDK in file

Paths=../../../FSD/Plugins/Nvidia/DLSS/Content

according to file ModdingUIsettings are set to 0

[gusty viper]

i have FSD / Plugins / Playfab

[obtuse fiber]

playfab is networking code for us while steam DRG is unreal engine networking code

im tempted to set DLSS mode to true instead of auto lol

why is this still in game code lol, UseProfanityFilter=False

[gusty viper]

Interesting feature, but why is that not in settings!?

well found an alternate launching path lol

[obtuse fiber]

it seems the devs just copied and pasted alot from steam over to windows build and just put false to show up in game settings ui

chat profanity is in steam

@gusty viper it looks like you play minecraft lol

bedrock skins lol

[rotund dagger]

Or, it is possible that some of the settings and files are auto-generated by the engine and are not used by DRG at all. Just because a settings file exists does not mean it must be used

[gusty viper]

not even a bedrock skin, but it used to have a higher res, which bedrock could only run and not java without mods

[obtuse fiber]

nice reflex mode disabled aka spoiler for future release

[gusty viper]

changed to standard after i got java

[obtuse fiber]

lol jk

going to change DLSS mode to true and try to open up game lol

[gusty viper]

OMG NO WAY

[obtuse fiber]

heres the 2 files to change settings

[gusty viper]

reflex mode?

[obtuse fiber]

thats a nvidia setting

NVIDIA REFLEX
VICTORY MEASURED
IN MILLISECONDS
NVIDIA Reflex delivers the ultimate competitive advantage. The lowest latency. The best responsiveness. Get the competitive edge you need at sub-25 milliseconds (ms) powered by GeForce RTX™ 30 Series GPUs and NVIDIA® G-SYNC® monitors. Acquire targets faster, react quicker, and increase aim precision through a revolutionary suite of technologies built to optimize and measure system latency for competitive games.

brb restarting computer and after restarting computer going to make sure settings saved in file and open up game

[gusty viper]

EXCUSE ME!!!

[rotund dagger]

I would not read too much into anything you find in these files

[gusty viper]

we are just looking into what could be causing this issue

but MODING UI?

[rotund dagger]

And besides, given the fact that the Microsoft version is the Xbox version, if modding support was to be added, the mods allowed would likely be underwhelming

[gusty viper]

well MW5 has moding capability and its cross platform between microsoft, steam, and epic

its not a far cry away

[obtuse fiber]

let me know if u find show network stats in file so i can set it to detailed by default since it never does on microsoft version but on steam it keeps it saved

[rotund dagger]

The types of mods that the console makers are willing to allow are often nothing to get terribly excited about. And comparing a tiny indie title to a tentpole franchise of one of the largest publishers on the planet is hardly "not a far cry away"

[obtuse fiber]

mods are also allowed on console with farming simulator

[gusty viper]

yes, xbox cannot run mods but pc can, plus the server filters on steam will be valuable

[rotund dagger]

It seems to me that it is unlikely the devs would divide the only crossplay audience they have...

[obtuse fiber]

xbox can run mods but severely limited esp with farming simulator

[gusty viper]

But even pc players are just fine with vannila

[obtuse fiber]

plus the devs use mod.io and mod.io supports xbox

[gusty viper]

oh i didn't know that.

[rotund dagger]

And again, the modding support provided to games on consoles tends to be of the most limited variety of mods

All I'm saying is modding on console has yet to be a terribly exciting prospect, and that does not seem likely to change

[gusty viper]

but just because mod support does get added doesn't mean its going to saw the community in half.

if pc players don't want to use mods they have that option

[obtuse fiber]

Cross-Platform
MODS ON EVERY STORE AND DEVICE
We're live on PC, Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo Switch, iOS and Android. Run a modding platform that expands with you, keeping your community united in-game and out. Our user-friendly APIs, SDKs, Unity, and Unreal plugins make it easy to get started, and our developer dashboard does the rest once you are live.

[gusty viper]

that settles it then

[shadow veldt]

I just want the wheelchair scout mod. Make it happen guys!

[rotund dagger]

I doubt the devs want to have an extra version to deal with by separating the Microsoft Store version on Windows and the Xbox version any more than necessary. If they even can; I have no idea if the license to put the game on both Xbox and Windows will allow them to make them separate. All I'm saying is I wouldn't get too excited...

[obtuse fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI3-HG80BgA

[gusty viper]

if that is made for the gunner you now have a armored car lol

[shadow veldt]

Scout go zooooooommmm with his wheels.

[obtuse fiber]

can hit a sick drift on black ice lol

[obtuse fiber]

im confused the versions would be the same for modding

[shadow veldt]

They need one for gunner that when he gets on his zip, it's like the meme and he's on one of those old people stair chairs.

[obtuse fiber]

lol

[gusty viper]

what do you mean by separate version?

forgive me carl

[rotund dagger]

Mods are strictly limited on consoles, to the point where they're arguably not even worth the effort to add them, in my opinion. You brought up separating the versions so that the PC version could still do mods since mods on PC are not restricted. You can't really have it both ways when currently the Xbox and PC builds are basically the same. I suppose you could add modding to both, and restrict the list of mods that the Xbox version can see and add, but I'm not sure the devs want to deal with that whole headache and extra work.
Or you split the versions so you don't have to police the mods because Xbox doesn't get modding support, but now you have a whole extra version you have to support...

[gusty viper]

Thats why i mentioned the server ui for steam

where you can filter modded sesions out

also if you look at minecraft bedrock, pc players can have custom assets in their games, but if an xbox player joins it installs the files required to see/use said assets before they join

[shadow veldt]

It'd be cool to have a mod to tell you if someone was on xbox or pc. Might make communication as little easier.

[rotund dagger]

Look, the way mods work on console requires that the developers of the game essentially take responsibility for every mod that they allow to be loaded into their game. That's what the console makers require. The devs would have to test all the mods to make sure they are in compliance with the console makers' guidelines for the software. So, in order to comply, on console, the devs either separate the versions so the console version gets no mod support, or they restrict the mods both the console and PC version have access to. Or the devs can add mod support to both console and PC, with restrictions on mods for console and anything goes on PC, but have to make sure that the console version only gets a restricted list of mods, which the devs have to maintain as well as, you know, worrying about developing and maintaining the game...

It all sounds like a ton of extra work, and extra maintenance, for something that by your own admission not everyone will use. And it would likely add a ton of extra maintenance to every update. Every patch could break any and all the mods, which if they're on console would have to be verified each time a new version is released

[gusty viper]

mod.io already covers the responsibility

[rotund dagger]

As far as I'm aware, mod.io is not handling the certification of mods for the game's developers. I'd be happy to see evidence to the contrary

[gusty viper]

https://drg.mod.io/guides/mod-guidelines-and-status-categories

[rotund dagger]

I'm under the impression that mod.io is just a repository, and perhaps mod loader, for mods

That is for Steam

Steam has no restrictions for mods

[shadow veldt]

If we ever do get mods, I want to be able to pet other players.

[rotund dagger]

The consoles do

[obtuse fiber]

Approved Mods are mods that have been reviewed and have been deemed Approved for Progression by the GSG crew. Approved Mods are mods that change gameplay elements and game modes but not to a degree we consider “cheating”.

GSG crew?

[rotund dagger]

Again, that's for Steam

[obtuse fiber]

but GSG crew review mods

[gusty viper]

but if you read the page, the website does

[rotund dagger]

That's simply GSG's own evaluation

It has nothing to do with console requirements

That would be a whole different thing

And a lot more work and headache

[gusty viper]

WELL THIS CAN BE INTERGRATED TO MS, AND THEY CAN FIGURE OUT RESTRICTIONS FROM THERE

[obtuse fiber]

https://gamerant.com/fallout-4-best-xbox-mods/

[rotund dagger]

Yes, GSG has created guidelines for mods on the Steam version. Those guidelines are arbitrary and solely at the discretion of GSG. They've come up with them to make modding interesting for anyone who wants to approach mods from a variety of ways. Those guidelines are not there because of some mandatory security restrictions, which is what will happen for mods on consoles

[gusty viper]

THOES ARE THE RESTICTIONS SET BY THE DEVS, NOT BY STEAM, NOT MOD.IO.

[rotund dagger]

Yes, that's what I said

[shadow veldt]

Imagine a mod that allowed xbox game audio to sync with discord. So that Xbox users could actually use the pod bays.

[gusty viper]

you said its restictions by steam

[rotund dagger]

No, please reread. I said restrictions that GSG have created for the Steam version. Because Steam has no restrictions

[gusty viper]

is it the restrictions for xbox, or steam?

does it work with xbox?

[rotund dagger]

Neither

The current restrictions are arbitrary, created by GSG to make modding fun

That's it

[gusty viper]

BUT YOU JUST SAID THAT STEAM DOES NOT HAVE RESTRICTIONS

[rotund dagger]

Correct

Steam, the platform, does not impose restrictions on GSG

[gusty viper]

THEN WHAT DOES THIS IMPLY!!!

[rotund dagger]

Microsoft, the platform, will impose restrictions on GSG

Right now, GSG doesn't have to do anything in terms of policing mods. They choose to, to keep modding fun and interesting

[gusty viper]

GSG can work around it, even if it means blocking mod types from certian platforms

[rotund dagger]

If mods were added to a console version, GSG would have to verify each and every mod, each and every time it gets updated

[gusty viper]

they already do that in mod.io'

[rotund dagger]

No, they don't

[gusty viper]

with mod TYPES

[rotund dagger]

Because they don't have to go through a certification process for each mod

[gusty viper]

THEY DO

[rotund dagger]

And if they don't categorize something correctly, there are no repercussions

[gusty viper]

they can simply redirect it to another type

[rotund dagger]

Right

And that is not at all how it would work on console

Right now, they can just have someone go, "sure, that's in this category," and move on

[gusty viper]

they can make subtypes for Xbox capable mods

[rotund dagger]

Console mods must actually be verified, and tested. Every mod. Every time it's updated

[gusty viper]

its not all ****** because some mods are not alowed on xbox

THEY VERIFY MODS ON MOD.IO!!!

WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY DO BEFORE THEY LET A MOD ONTO THE WEBSITE!?

THEY ALREADY DO THIS!!!

[regal breach]

wtf 300 messages, how am i supposed to keep up with that!

what are you talking about with mods?

We actually want mods on the console/win store versions, and we chose mod.io because it is something that they support. How it will work exactly, and when, noone knows yet, we havent had time to think about it yet

[rotund dagger]

Welcome, Bjorn!

Perhaps we've made it through the brief cloudflare-pocalypse... maybe...

[celest schooner]

You two can continue the fight now.

[rotund dagger]

Eh, it's late, haha

[celest schooner]

Yeah, I changed my mind after 3 minutes of reading up

[regal breach]

@obtuse fiber do you also have the game on steam?

[flat crest]

Think this is useful information Bjorn?

[regal breach]

unfortunately no, its just a generic crash report, it doesnt contain any game info

[flat crest]

Dang, i wonder how many people it’s affecting

[gusty viper]

its the ONLY statement in every crash report for this bug

and its all pc players as far as i know

[regal breach]

it is a generic statement, it doesnt actually have any info

but i am looking into the issue the next couple days to see what i can find out

[gusty viper]

its very weird, there are times where the crash is majorly delayed and even being joined caused me to crash

i don't think this is a server thing because even LAN doesn't work

[regal breach]

@obtuse fiber get up nibbles!

[celest schooner]

Wake the 🦆 up!
Wake the 🦆 up!
Wake the 🦆 up!
Wake the 🦆 up!

[regal breach]

fine, you can all blame nibbles for the crashes you have, as he wont help me

[celest schooner]

Oof

I dunno where he resides but I think he be sleeping as we speak

[regal breach]

YOU CAN ALL BLAME NIBBLES!

[flat crest]

ima blame Pedro instead

[celest schooner]

I’m gonna blame Jacob instead

[gaunt yacht]

keyboard stopped working for anyone else on xbox? was working for me prior to update

[obtuse fiber]

The one time I fall asleep at a normal time and yes I own the game on both steam and Xbox/Microsoft

[fierce dagger]

Lmao not allowed to sleep

[obtuse fiber]

to be fair i did say im awake about 75% of the time they are awake and working but what i dont understand is that they can look at my roles and see what version i own by my roles

[celest schooner]

“Sleeping on a 24/7 job!? Get back to work!”

[obtuse fiber]

to answer that question i reside in the worse state ever aka california

[celest schooner]

Nice

But yes, I called it, I figured you had a good nights sleep

[obtuse fiber]

i went to bed at 12am and he messaged me at 2am lol

[celest schooner]

Kek

[obtuse fiber]

i try my best to help out when possible lol

maybe bjorn should set me up with fake hours to help him out lol

[celest schooner]

Best way to get Bjorn’s attention is to say the magical sentence: “Bjorn best dev ever”

[obtuse fiber]

i thought it was bjorn best/patient dev ever

esp dealing with me lol

[celest schooner]

Nah, just the best dev ever.

[shadow veldt]

Yup. It was fixed in one of the latest patches broke again it seems.

[fierce dagger]

DRG had some sketchy patch cycles but most were cleared up quickly, the last few been something else

[obtuse fiber]

Honestly as much as I like helping developers find problems I can’t always be available to help them so please if anybody besides me is awake when developers are working please help them as I can’t always be awake to help with crashes like multiplayer crashing

[gaunt yacht]

Very very very minor fix but they also forgot the “l” in powerful in the description and I’m 99% sure it’s spelled Catalyst with a “y” instead of an “i”. I’m not nit picking or complaining. Just trying to help! I swear! 👏

[pliant cloak]

you swear?!?!?!?!

[gaunt yacht]

I swear! 😂😂😂😂😂

I’m just trying to help! 😭😭😭

[flint marsh]

This update really made me go from an Endothermic Explosion enjoyer to a Plastcrete Catalyst hater in 2 missions.

[gaunt yacht]

Wait why?! They gave it some sweet buffs in this update

[flint marsh]

Self damage upon explosion, and it doesn't help that the time/ammo needed for the explosion to occur was decreased. I'd rather have no self damage if it meant the explosion took longer to activate.

So I like Endothermic more

Prob a skill issue but this is just how I feel about it rn. First two missions on and I quit mid mission to a different loadout

Glad the update took longer to arrive for us so I could enjoy Endothermic

[light niche]

For sure skill issue

[grim arch]

Anyone else have no sound, xbox series x?

[light niche]

I had that issue, I opened a different game, had sound. Opened Drg and it worked

It was weird

[wicked whale]

Practice drawing dicks on the wall, you’ll see your skill improve drastically

[silent warren]

if i bought the game on steam can i play with someone on xbox?

[rotund dagger]

No. The Steam version does not have crossplay

[celest schooner]

StoicMako the MVP

[obtuse fiber]

Anybody know if I can go to sleep or not

[rotund dagger]

You absolutely can. Should you? Well, that is something only you can answer...

[obtuse fiber]

I was reading reviews of Icarus and someone said why can’t we mantle over ledges like we can in deep rock galactic

[rotund dagger]

Haha

I've thought that before in a game or two

[obtuse fiber]

I don’t wanna go to sleep and bjorn tries to ask me questions again lol

Unless we have another cloud flare outage again lol

[rotund dagger]

If I'm not mistaken, it's gonna be a little while before their workday starts. Only stay up if you can afford to do so, but don't stay up if it's going to cause you any issues

And yeah, fingers crossed cloudflare doesn't randomly disappear for an hour or so...

[obtuse fiber]

brb checking somethings on steam DRG vs microsoft

[celest schooner]

I’ll protect you from the big mean Bjorn

[celest schooner]

I’ll be your shield

[obtuse fiber]

im glad im almost over COVID

goodnight everyone

[flat crest]

Good morning 👋

[obtuse fiber]

true but for me i havent gone to bed yet

heres hoping i get my new ebike this week so i can enjoy the weather and stop playing DRG on my xbox

[gusty viper]

got some more info on the crash, whenever the cash occurs its consistently flatlines at 12% GPU

[obtuse fiber]

do u know how to get a dxdiag

post that file here for bjorn so he knows what specs you have to help if possible

[gusty viper]

yes

my drg file?

[obtuse fiber]

its a file that lists your computer specs

windows key+R and type dxdiag

save all information from that program

[obtuse fiber]

ok cool, now i hope i can go to bed now unless bjorn needs something else from me lol

[gusty viper]

ok

[flat crest]

Bjorn needs 5,000,000,000,000,000 barley bulbs

[celest schooner]

I’ll be your shield from the big mean Bjorn

[obtuse fiber]

Don’t make me block you I was almost asleep. Getting over Covid is a pain and I’d like my sleep now and also sorry if that came out mean.

[celest schooner]

Oh, sorry.

[regal breach]

@gusty viper what windows version are you on

[gusty viper]

windows 10

[regal breach]

ok ty

and you just crash after a short while in multiplayer too ?

[gusty viper]

yes

it slightly stuters just a fraction of a second before the main freeze that kills it

[regal breach]

do you use voice chat

[gusty viper]

im on push to talk

[regal breach]

do you use it when you crash

[gusty viper]

nope

it crashes no further keys pressed

[regal breach]

but you load into the game right, then it crashes after a little bit?

[gusty viper]

its slightly inconsistent, you can do a full game if you are lucky, but other than that yes

most of the time you get pass the character select

but crash before you enter the odst drop

like i said a few days ago you can't even join another device in the same household

[regal breach]

@gusty viper can you try joining a deep dive

[gusty viper]

que is empty

[flat crest]

i can open one up

[gusty viper]

alright

let me know when you have it open

[flat crest]

it’s open

[gusty viper]

you hit public before you hit launch right?

[flat crest]

Yea

a couple of peeps have joined

but i’m making sure there’s room for you

[gusty viper]

well nothing is showing up

try an xbox invite

[flat crest]

it’s doing that for me too

[gusty viper]

got it

and i crash on a black screen

[flat crest]

Rip

i wonder what’s up with the deep dive terminal tho

ah i see for me at least it’s cause there wasn’t anyone else hosting a deep dive

[gusty viper]

do you see me in the que

[flat crest]

No

[gusty viper]

odd

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/vi1dns/i_have_entered_the_soul_dungeon_of_me/

i did manage to do this

[flat crest]

i’m guessing your game crashed

[gusty viper]

Apparently not

it just resets the space rig as if you had left a session

[flat crest]

imagine if it just said that there was now two of you

[gusty viper]

oh no

[flat crest]

What?

[gusty viper]

just my reaction to what you said lol

[flat crest]

thought something had happened in-game lol

[gusty viper]

ah

well i gota head off to bed and let Bjorn do his work

[flat crest]

Okie have a good night

[gusty viper]

gn

[regal breach]

conclusion from today: me and 3 genius programmer have concluded... that we have no idea whats going on or how to fix it. ill try again tomorrow

[unreal radish]

Have you tried hitting it with a stick?

[shadow veldt]

I'd go on a free lance website and post a $50 job for a freelancer to fix it. Make it someone else's problem.

[obtuse fiber]

Have you tried hitting it with a hammer*

[celest schooner]

Have you tried kicking it? Usually works on engines but kicking solves everything.

[wicked whale]

The Slavic fix. Use violence, and if it doesn’t work just build a new one out of the scrap

[pliant cloak]

add vodka too

[chrome ice]

need help. my 500 hour progress is gone. how do i get it back? game on xbox one

[pliant cloak]

there should be a save menu on your version of the game too. have you checked it yet?

[chrome ice]

I deleted the local save and went to the cloud. no results. my character who was at level 269 went to level 1

[pliant cloak]

but have you cheched the save menu tho?

[chrome ice]

Yes

[pliant cloak]

did you click on "restore save"?

[chrome ice]

my God. I found my save. thanks for the help friend. you are a friend!!!

[tawdry portal]

Man, I just want to play multiplayer so bad, I cry

[maiden hawk]

I can confirm

He crying

[obtuse fiber]

only way around to play DRG multiplayer at least for me is play on my xbox vs my more powerful computer

trust me when i say ive helped as much as i can to help devs identify the multiplayer crashing, hell i even let them use my microsoft account and they played my account only for the game to crash when they quit the game lol

only thing left for me to help them is screen share both game and discord and when it crashes it will go to discord screenshare

heres hoping im not needed tonight at midnight again lol

[rotund dagger]

I mean, seeing a video of it crashing doesn't seem like it'll do much, since they're not getting crash details returned to them and there's no local crash details to give to them

[obtuse fiber]

well time to play either red dead online or icarus

[obtuse fiber]

we do get crashdumps on computer but bjorn said that doesnt help

[rotund dagger]

Right. Which is why I said you have no local crash details to give to them

[obtuse fiber]

only problem it found was related to ntdll.dll

here

that also means a third party driver could be a problem as well

im also doing sfc /scannow to check

[rotund dagger]

Entirely possible. Had a friend who had issues with Elden Ring at launch. They claim to have traced it back to having the Epic Game Store app installed. I don't know why, but they said uninstalling the Epic Game Store fixed the issue ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[obtuse fiber]

id laugh if thats the problem everyone is having

do i have to uninstall it or should i try force closing it first

epic games store app is only good for free stuff lol

OUCH OUCH Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them.

[rotund dagger]

I have Epic Game Store installed and have had no problems with DRG

[obtuse fiber]

ok

[rotund dagger]

So I don't think it's that, but it's possible it's a similar kind of conflict based on some software that only some people have installed

That would only make sense for PC issues, though

Not sure if there's any folks on Xbox having the multiplayer issues still

[obtuse fiber]

after doing sfc /scannow i was able to play a little bit longer in a multiplayer session lol

[celest schooner]

That’s some serious dedication, I’d never do that with anybody

[obtuse fiber]

honestly i was really hoping they could have made a debug build to send to me and help identify the problem

[obtuse fiber]

honestly this game is addicting and i said id do anything to help them with problems

[celest schooner]

Understood

[obtuse fiber]

ever since i saw DRG video at xbox show years ago i thought the game was going to be a master piece and i was right but crashing/bugs make it not like that

only a few games/studios can make games addicting and GSG is one of them along with coffee stain studios with satisfactory

[gloomy ingot]

Hi. Before last update I log in game but still off-line, cant play with friends and can see any room. How I fix? I try re-install and hard reset Xbox but still off-line. 😭

[amber ivy]

I hate bein that guy that enters a server just to complain

promise im not

but im here to say windows 10 version is just not having it, been doing everything i can, can play solo, but not online much like some of the lovelies here, joins for a few seconds then crashes, sometimes able to be on longer

will test the steam version once its reinstalled

cuz.... yes i have both cuz im a moron lmao

[rotund dagger]

It's a known issue. It started with the Season 2 update. It's not affecting everyone and the devs cannot reproduce it on their end, so it's proving to be tough to solve. But the devs are working on it

[amber ivy]

Ay no worries N i appreciate the quick response, really n truly I do have much love for the game and community, hate to be a bother homie

[rotund dagger]

It's no bother at all

[rotund dagger]

Check your system time. If your clock is wrong, it will prevent you from joining or hosting games. Can't say that's definitely the issue, but it is one cause for what you're experiencing.

[gloomy ingot]

@rotund dagger I will check

@rotund dagger well, time ok, 😶

[rotund dagger]

Darn, I was hoping that was it. If time and time zone are set to automatic, then make sure Region is set correctly to your physical location

[gloomy ingot]

Brazil UTC-3:00 all fine. With my time zone.

[rotund dagger]

You could try signing out of your account and then signing in. Other than that, I don't know what else to suggest that you haven't already tried

[gloomy ingot]

@rotund dagger 😞😞

[wooden dove]

I’ve had an issue many times now where chat won’t work on Xbox (I use mouse and keyboard). The Xbox onscreen keyboard will pop up for a second then disappear, and the chat box itself will also appear as if it can be typed in for that split second. This problem seems to just stop and start randomly and I’ve found no solution. Power cycling or relaunching the game doesn’t change anything, nor does unplugging and replugging the keyboard. I think this just may be a technical issue that’ll have to be fixed by the devs?

[rotund dagger]

Yes, it'll have to be fixed by the devs. It is mentioned as a known issue in the recent patch notes ( #patch-notes-xbox_winstore ) so consider it as being worked on

[wooden dove]

Oh nice, was concerned I was the only one. After power cycling I had some issues with the data syncing thingy so I was a bit worried if there was more to it

[rotund dagger]

I believe it's a side effect of the recent addition of the text chat support added to controllers. Hopefully it's a relatively easy fix

[regal breach]

re: the win store crash - i promise you i am doing literally everything i can, and annoying all the other devs all day long whenever i find the tiniest clue. I get that is is super frustrating, hopefully we will figure it out

Mouse and keyboard is broken in the newest patch, we discovered it right as we wanted to release, but we have it fixed internally, we just need to figure out when to put it out and if we need to include more stuff

[gusty viper]

i don't think this helps, but after a few hours of solo Z fighting started to happen

[regal breach]

@gusty viper what happens in multiplayer when you host?

[gusty viper]

i will try that out

as a host with no other players it fine

well somebody tried to join and caused me to crash

[regal breach]

interesting

very interesting

[uneven mortar]

#lfg-xbox-microsoft I'm grinding industrial sabotage on hazard 4 and if anyone wants to join I'm in pod 38, I'm a scout main so engi, gunner or driller can join, my time zone --> UTC +2 SAST, close to central European time

[gusty viper]

but now when i try to join i crash on a black screen before the character select

[regal breach]

can you try again wraith, to have someone join you and make a video?

whats your game name? i will try joining you

i tried joining the game you have up now and its all kinds of messed up

@gusty viper buddy i need you!

[gusty viper]

ArcticWraith06

i was working on that vid you asked fpr

[regal breach]

cool

can you let me know when you have a new game up, its super important

[gusty viper]

ok

mining expedition in fugus bogs, password :Test

crashed

instant crash when you were shown in the slot

[regal breach]

alright, i got some debug info, ill try and see with axel whats up

[gusty viper]

ok

[regal breach]

can we try 1 more time

[gusty viper]

i will get it set up, same settings

same result

[regal breach]

1 more time please

this is what testing is 😛

[gusty viper]

ok

its up

[regal breach]

how many friends and blocked people do you have?

[gusty viper]

38 friends, zero blocked

[regal breach]

thank you

[gusty viper]

your welcome

i am uploading the video to you unlisted

[regal breach]

ty

[gusty viper]

just need to wait for it to get to YT to send

[regal breach]

do you also have the steam version?

[gusty viper]

nope, have DRG via game pass

[regal breach]

we are just trying to rule out unique factors that might influence what happens

[gusty viper]

ok

the video i will be sending you will be from the first test

[regal breach]

is your game pass still active?

[gusty viper]

yes

if it were not i would not be playing lol

[regal breach]

maybe a bug made it possible 🙂 do you have any kind of firewall or something that could limit network traffic, anything at all?

[gusty viper]

not that i am aware of

[regal breach]

what is your network setup?

[gusty viper]

wi-fi, vertical broadband. at least 8 megabits per second

[regal breach]

do you have the option to try a wired connecting?

[gusty viper]

thats up to my parents

[regal breach]

oh snap

[gusty viper]

i just realized that time you joined in that clip, I was in the middle of a mission, not the space rig

that might be part of the problem

[regal breach]

it acts the same in all the situations ive tried to join you

[gusty viper]

ah

alright i got to go to bed GN

[regal breach]

cya, thanks for helping, we are just gonna try more stuff

[gusty viper]

👍

[obtuse fiber]

I just woke up need me for anything @regal breach

[regal breach]

not atm, we have literally looked at everything. we are trying to make builds with logs but it is massively complicated

[obtuse fiber]

Ok

I wish Microsoft would allow more debug information in Microsoft store games

[obtuse fiber]

Question why do I crash but the dialogue box not show up. It use to show up when I crashed

[regal breach]

because something is different

[regal breach]

nibbles do you use any sort of vpn or anti virus

[obtuse fiber]

Nope

Just built in Microsoft protection

[regal breach]

are.you.sure...

[obtuse fiber]

Yeah only other thing I have turned on is DDOS protection on my router

[regal breach]

can you turn if off so i can ddos you?

[obtuse fiber]

I play games that people try to kick me offline lol

[regal breach]

i mean try something

[obtuse fiber]

Nice try I love staying online lol

Do u want me to try and add an exception to port and add DRG if it’s listed on my routers open NAT list

[regal breach]

drg and playfab

[obtuse fiber]

Ok

playfab is not listed but DRG is listed

i guess playfab is not a game lol

[regal breach]

what stuff is listed?

[obtuse fiber]

just 3 DRGs from steam xbox and PC

i chose PC since that seems to relate to microsoft more then steam or xbox

do u wanna try and join my game and see what happens in spacerig

[regal breach]

sure

[obtuse fiber]

server name should still be High Level Player

[regal breach]

nothing there

[obtuse fiber]

Weird it’s a haz 5 mission

[regal breach]

dont use haz5

i cant see it

[obtuse fiber]

Ok what haz

Haz 1 lol

[regal breach]

anything but 5

thats very weird, the other guys crashen when i joined his game

[cobalt depot]

"I don't play the W10 version that often, so I really don't have any basis for this. But is it possible teredo is causing the connection issues people have? I have had my fair share of issues relating to teredo not functioning and it's caused me to be unable to play Halo MCC, join Xbox parties on windows, and all sorts of crap.

There's a menu in W10 called "Xbox Networking" that lets you see if your teredo is able to qualify."

Shot in the dark this was brought up by someone the other day incase devs missed it. Everytime I tried to play a crossplay game with a PC friend this was causing issues

[obtuse fiber]

Wanna try again but in a mission and see what happens

[regal breach]

ok

[obtuse fiber]

Wanna join first and load in mission or join in during mission

[regal breach]

start it

[obtuse fiber]

Loading in now

U can join now

[regal breach]

can you normally host games since season 2?

[obtuse fiber]

crashed lol

[regal breach]

ah ok

[obtuse fiber]

season 2 made multiplayer unplayable but hosting is fine just when someone joins it crashes

[regal breach]

but how come i could join you before. artic crashed instantly when i joined him

[obtuse fiber]

whatever patch was released fixed xbox multiplayer but not windows that seems weird

maybe something to do with my open NAT rules i set but im not sure

after that crash i cant reopen the game, would you know why that would happen

[regal breach]

nop

[obtuse fiber]

would you know would you guys did that fixed xbox from crashing and would it cause it to not work on windows build

[regal breach]

iam not sure we fixed any crashing on xbox

depends what you mean

but it doesnt matter, since the win crash is its own thing

[obtuse fiber]

you guys released a patch that was suppose to fix multiplayer crashing after season 2 released and it fixed xbox from crashing for me but not windows

oh ok

does DRG use .net framework

a recent update from microsoft seems to have broken some games that use .net framework it seems

I’m trying something weird not all of my .net framework was installed on my computer

I’m trying anything now lol

Trying to load into a multiplayer session now with all .net framework installed

[regal breach]

lets see

[obtuse fiber]

Played for a little while and crashed

im wondering if process monitor would help

onecore\base\appmodel\runtime\src\lookup.cpp(218)\kernelbase.dll!00007FFB3C7A73DC: (caller: 00007FFB3C8042B9) ReturnHr(1) tid(2a60) 8007007A The data area passed to a system call is too small.
gamecore\grts\runtime\shared\system\lib\systemp.cpp(306)\gameplatformservices.dll!00007FFB0EB56EBF: (caller: 00007FFB0EB8F5A0) ReturnHr(1) tid(2a60) 8000FFFF Catastrophic failure
ntdll!NtTerminateProcess+0x14:
00007ffb`3f0e4434 c3 ret

failure whats that about

tried using WinDbg preview and thats what came up during gameplay of DRG

now it seems related to game platform services

hey bjorn have you tried looking into gameplatformservices.dll in DRG

[amber ivy]

It's so weird cuz I can still cloud play the game but not my local installed version

And it'll work cloud play on multiplayer

[regal breach]

wat?

are you having the same issue @amber ivy

@obtuse fiber have you tried reinstalling some of your xbox/drg stuff

[obtuse fiber]

Yeah but what’s weird is now dlc is showing up in addons in settings app and before season 2 that never showed up @regal breach

[amber ivy]

Yeah, unable to play any multiplayer whatsoever on my windows 10 version, but I'm able to play through cloud gaming on the same computer multiplayer

Uninstalled/reinstalled the game, the Xbox app, updated Nvidia drivers, reset permissions on my Microsoft account, and still just isn't going for it

[obtuse fiber]

multiplayer is fine because cloud streaming is using xbox series x racks

[amber ivy]

Yee I figured as much

And my steam version is fine as well, it's only when I use the windows 10 version is doesn't work

[obtuse fiber]

whatever patch they released after season 2 fixed multiplayer crashing for me on xbox but not windows 11

[amber ivy]

Huh interesting

I just got the game recently so I haven't been around before the patch

[obtuse fiber]

ive helped as much as i can with devs to find/fix the problem

[amber ivy]

Yee understandable, and probably helpful af

[obtuse fiber]

they even tried using my save file and that only crashed after quitting the game lol

[amber ivy]

Ooof lol, that's so odd

[obtuse fiber]

well im off to play some rogue company on my series x

[amber ivy]

Have fun broski

Maybe we can play together sometime on drg sometime

[minor prairie]

@small prairie you may find more answers here btw for your version of the game; it seems like Steam's version is running fine right now but the Gamepass (Windows/Microsoft) version isn't

[small prairie]

thanks ill see if things are ironed out with game pass and if they arent i might just buy it on steam

for me the issues only started after the beach party stuff was dropped so maybe if devs can figure out what happened it can be fixxed

[amber ivy]

It should be on sale on steam Im not 100% tho, that's why I got it originally plus Ive got buddies playing it to

[obtuse fiber]

Someone should pin a message saying they are aware of multiplayer crashing and are looking deep into the code to find and fix it.

[shadow veldt]

I would but unfortunately I don't have those permissions.

[gusty viper]

yah i did try reinstaling the game a month back and had no affect

i found another Z fight, this time i just booted up the game

[gusty viper]

The Previous one

[celest schooner]

What’s a “Z fight”

[gusty viper]

When two textures are in the exact same spot, so they flicker over one another

[celest schooner]

I think I’m blind, where is the texture conflict in the image?

[gusty viper]

here is a picture of what they are suppose to look like, you don't see a flicker because there is no seem or transition

if you watch a vid, witch i can't upload to Discord, they seemingly change texture like a lightbulb going on or off

[celest schooner]

Ooohh, ok

[gusty viper]

in most z fighting cases, yes you can see both textures at onece. but not this one

[gusty viper]

here is the worst case of Z-fighting i have seen in this game

[obtuse fiber]

I wonder when DX12 bug will get fixed lol

[gusty viper]

???

Dx12 bug?

[obtuse fiber]

DX12 bug causes bug to be discoloration aka bulk detonator is darker orange and oppressor is purple instead of green as an example of that bug

[gusty viper]

ah

never seen that

i am finally at 200

[celest schooner]

Nice helmet

[gusty viper]

Teir 100 S1

[celest schooner]

Oof

[gusty viper]

and funny enough a dead giveaway for hackers

at the time

[rotund dagger]

And now it's just in a cosmetic core, If I remember correctly

Such a great way to do a season pass, I think

[gusty viper]

this is an example of that giveaway i was talking about

[rotund dagger]

Can't say for certain, but I think it's just in the cosmetic core list now so anyone who can get cosmetic cores and has enough resources to forge them can have it if they got very lucky. Prior to Season 2, that would be a different story, of course

[gusty viper]

this is S1

don't remember the exact date and i don't have the original image

[rotund dagger]

Sure. As I said, prior to Season 2 it would be a different story

[obtuse fiber]

I know there are programs and websites to edit save files

[gusty viper]

yah, S1 was the time where i was seeing hackers left and right

[obtuse fiber]

There’s one program that WE as a people love to MOD and that’s the name of the program.

[gusty viper]

yep, even my future brother in law is using it

[obtuse fiber]

I only use it because one game developer didn’t make a countdown timer long enough lol

It’s sad when a major gaming company makes a countdown timer too short to beat a game cough just cause 4

[stark shadow]

Just cause 4 was actual garbage

[obtuse fiber]

i cant complain i got the game for free from a gamestop worker

[shadow veldt]

Makes sense. The dwarf loudly yells "I am hackerman" after a successful hacking attempt.

[amber ivy]

They should have taken the just cause 3 formula n ran with it, I just wanted to blow stuff up in just cause 4 not all the extra stuff

That's what made just cause 3 fun, was not thinking, and shooting everything that was red

[obtuse fiber]

honestly this crashing is making me more confused each night i try to figure out why its crashing, i even tried installing .net framework fully since it was only half installed aka not all features were installed

got this from Rocketwerkz CEO, @obtuse fiber ask them if they use a steam plugin for DRG, because the makers of the plugin changed a method inserting an int before a bool - it could cause a crash. for us it meant the int was read as a bool

i had to mention that plug in is playfab lol

[gusty viper]

Umm, my game crashed in singleplayer

[obtuse fiber]

single player as host or single player as solo mode @gusty viper

my game never crashed during solo mode

[gusty viper]

Single player in solo

i have just noticed that in the Single player game im in, the game continues even if i hit pause

[sick ore]

hey i dont want to bug anyone but i am having some trouble gaming with my friends and i dont know whats the problem. I am on windows and I am trying to play with some friends on xbox but whenever i try to join there game my screen goes black and crashes, sometimes i get in for a second but not for long. i've update all my drivers and done all the usual fixes but nothing has work.

[trim thistle]

It is a known bug that only happens to a fraction of the people on the windows build of the game. It is taking a long time to fix since it only affects a small percentage of the player base and the crash reports aren't giving the devs any useful information on what's causing it.

[gusty viper]

we have been trying hard to figure it out lol

[amber ivy]

it is quite odd isnt it lol

ah well

[wicked whale]

maybe you crashed because you're on a pc playing a version designed for a console..

they are the same version, just played on different platforms

[rotund dagger]

Maybe, but then why haven't I crashed at all on my PC. Hmmm. Could it be that games are complex bits of software and do not always behave as we might expect them to despite being designed for multiple hardware configurations?

[wicked whale]

i dont crash often, maybe once a day on average

youre saying what im saying, except your example doesnt line up

its designed for multiple different platforms, therefore it shouldnt be unexpected that its stability for the secondary platform isnt as good

[rotund dagger]

And I don't crash at all. Ever. I'm on very similar hardware to someone who crashes every time. Obviously something is different enough between our hardware and software configurations, but narrowing down the difference is the hard part. It's far more complicated than saying "lol console game"

[wicked whale]

literally never said that

[rotund dagger]

Here

[wicked whale]

it doesnt crash on xbox as often because its designed for console

yes

[rotund dagger]

It doesn't crash for me, ever

I'm on a PC

[wicked whale]

it doesnt crash as often on console because its designed for it

both these guys that complain every single day about crashing are on PC

and i am too. and it crashes from time to time.

[rotund dagger]

Only reason I don't complain is because I'm on a PC and not crashing at all

[wicked whale]

but it doesnt piss me off, because i know the xbox version of deep rock was designed for xbox, not windows pc. therefore, stability issues on pc would make sense

yeah id expect that. complaining over nothing would make you an idiot

[rotund dagger]

Prior to Season 2, these folks didn't crash on PC. So make it make sense

[wicked whale]

season 2 introduced some stability issues

obviously

when games are updated, so are the files. some are replaced and some are added/removed

[rotund dagger]

Which proves it's possible to not have stability issues on PC (almost like it was designed for PC as well, weird...), so maybe they can provide info that helps the devs figure out what part of the update has introduced this instability (since it's not inherent simply because "lol console game")

[wicked whale]

the windows 10 version was designed to be compatible with the xbox version, to run along side it. a port.

i dunno how else i can explain this, man. if you dont get it then i dunno what to tell you

"lol console game" is what you're saying. you misunderstood what i said entirely and based your opinion off of it

[rotund dagger]

More like the Xbox is simply a computer with a fixed set of hardware running what is essentially a special version of a PC OS. So making it work on Xbox is exactly the same as making it work on a PC...

[wicked whale]

im saying console is MORE stable than pc for the microsoft version of the game. its the fact that the PC version is made to be compatible with crossplay is where the issues come from

[rotund dagger]

Except it's not true, given they didn't have issues before, and I still don't have issues now. Almost like DRG is designed to work on PCs, of which the Xbox is simply one variety

[wicked whale]

and im not sure they can provide much info that can help, they arent developers that would know the exact cause and effect of a game crash.

[rotund dagger]

The devs were literally asking them for info and walking them through providing it

[wicked whale]

yeah, trying to get information they can work with

[rotund dagger]

Almost like these users can provide something

Weird

[wicked whale]

yeah, they can provide an error code

[rotund dagger]

No, they can't, because error codes don't exist

[wicked whale]

ive gotten error codes before

on startup, sometimes the game bar would give me a fatal crash error code before forcing me out

but most of the time it crashes straight to the desktop

[rotund dagger]

Game Bar is not DRG

[wicked whale]

thats true, but it still provides you an error code pertaining to the game you're on

[rotund dagger]

Generic Windows error codes are not necessarily specific to what is happeneing with DRG

[wicked whale]

not necessarily, yes. But they can be.

[rotund dagger]

If they were useful in this situation, it would have come up by now

[wicked whale]

you dont get them every time

rarely you get an error code. like i said, most of the time you crash straight to the desktop[

[rotund dagger]

Look, I'm not going to go over all that's gone on in here relating to this over the last few weeks. If you have something useful, share it. If not, commiserate. Detracting from the conversation by insinuating that there can be no improved outcome due to hardware choice is just plain useless and inaccurate

[wicked whale]

its endless complaining just for the sake of it. look at what they're saying.

its a chat for the game and all it is is crash this and crash that...

is it so much to ask for a lively chat for a lively game? apparently yes. that is my problem.

[rotund dagger]

You're choosing to read it. You could easily ignore it. Anyway, I've said my piece. I hope you can find your peace

[wicked whale]

nah i just skim through it. i open the chat and see crash this/crash that

you keep hoping.

[gusty viper]

we don't get any error codes when we crash, so whatever is causing it, even the devs don't know, there is a file that save crash reports, but the statements are generic, and have no context to the S2 crashes

There are Three extra English language files that don't show up in game

@regal breach Do you recon this MP crash has somthing to do with that Options reset when the season launched?

@rotund dagger When the season started, Your Controls, Graphic, ETC got reset Right?

[regal breach]

anything is possible, but likely not

[rotund dagger]

Yes, Season 2 did reset most, if not all settings. I haven't customized too much, so I didn't notice too much myself

[gusty viper]

ok, so probably not to do with that

i was thinking, stoic said that his game wasn't crashing like everyone else.

there could have been a inconsistency with the INI files caused by the reset

[rotund dagger]

I have friends who are on both console and PC who are also experiencing zero issues, as far as I'm aware. We have various different hardware configurations (although I'm not sure if one friend has tried from his laptop at all, or only his desktop, I should ask him) across 7 of us.
I wouldn't expect voice chat to cause crashing, but I guess it is worth noting that I've never transmitted audio since Season 2 began. We usually use either Discord or Xbox Party Chat for communications. I have Voice Chat toggled On and Push To Talk toggled On in the in-game settings, but I have not used it once since Season 2 has begun. I do use text chat occasionally

Figured I'd mention the audio stuff only because it's one of the only things I can think of that could be immediately noticeable as different about how myself and my friends have our game and PCs set up

[gusty viper]

its not VC, i disabled it and tried to join a player and it still crashed me

[regal breach]

you joined my game 😄

[rotund dagger]

Good to rule it out, at least

[regal breach]

trying to see if my home pc has the issue

[gusty viper]

ah

Look at the bottom left when i enter the black screen, i have my VC off

[rotund dagger]

I meant it was good that we could rule it out. Not that I doubted your word

[gusty viper]

i had my VC OFF and yet there was a chat notification

it should not have shown up if it was OFF

[rotund dagger]

Ah, yes. That's a weird bug. It makes it appear as though you're transmitting for a brief moment, usually as you're on or transitioning to/from a loading screen. Everyone gets that, as far as I'm aware, but none of my friends or myself have ever actually heard anything from each other when it's happening

[regal breach]

@obtuse fiber @gusty viper @amber ivy if you are comfortable with it, could you open processes and send me a screenshot after the game has crashed, just as a DM

[gusty viper]

Processes in task manager?

[regal breach]

yep all of them

[obtuse fiber]

I just woke up is my processes still needed

Also @regal breach did you find this funny lol. #xbox-and-windows-store message

[regal breach]

still needed yes

i was too tired when i read it to get it 🙂

[obtuse fiber]

Ok let me just crash my game lol

Basically I was talking about DRG crashing to CEO of the maker of Icarus game and he said the plug-in was made differently and I told him that plug in DRG uses is playfab and he responded back saying ouch lol

[regal breach]

iam not really sure why he would say that, since playfab is a decent option

[obtuse fiber]

Do u also want system processes along with program processes

He probably said that because Microsoft store lol

[regal breach]

sure

[obtuse fiber]

I tried playing DRG while running windbdebug and it came back with a catastrophic failure after crash

sent task manager during playgame and after screenshots

[obtuse fiber]

If anybody needs me I’ll be on my Xbox and can move over to computer if needed for anything

Nice Icarus just patched there multiplayer crashing so now I’m heading on my computer to play Icarus if needed I could get off Icarus for anything

Funny thing is they also upgraded game engine and had multiplayer crashes

i wonder why unreal game engine changed the way multiplayer was handled in new engine upgrade

[fading zealot]

This is an accidental change yeah?

Because uh

A few achievements are now incredibly hard to get

Actually mostly just the barrel team change

[sick ore]

Ah that makes sense. I feel better now knowing that the devs are working on it! 😁

[obtuse fiber]

happening to me as well but im trying my best to be awake when devs are online and working to help them when needed

everything from helping them to giving them access to my account is being done

only thing thats not tested yet is using a dwarf hammer to hit it lol

[sick ore]

Yeah lol well if you guys figure anything out let me know because this game is hella fun and I can’t wait to play it with the boys

[obtuse fiber]

devs are trying thing out and i know one of them might not be possible and thats build a debug program but that might not be compatible

[obtuse fiber]

i hear you on that this game is so damn addicting i have to play it on my xbox for multiplayer

but computer is better for FPS

now time to play some more icarus

[obtuse fiber]

damn 32 microsoft store updates lol

unfortunately none of them DRG

[obtuse fiber]

im loving the god mode folder i have on my desktop it helps me find things quicker like debug event viewer

[regal breach]

i read it, and the icarus crash is something very different

[obtuse fiber]

Better to have ideas from different games that could spark an idea on why we r crashing.

[cobalt depot]

Was reverted on the next patch so it never actually hit us

[fading zealot]

Alright cool

[cobalt otter]

Hello, For issues regarding game not launching/perma stuck in Steam Update issues (steam error reports Missing file/exe file unable to be run), where Do i report it?

[regal breach]

in #bug-discussion

[cobalt otter]

thx

[obtuse fiber]

Hey @regal breach are you going to need me at all next week

[obtuse fiber]

Well that was a very interesting time I had with Covid and now it’s time to be in Society again lol

[gusty viper]

any new info on the bug?

[obtuse fiber]

@gusty viper

I hope that helps any.

[obtuse fiber]

I think he wanted to try something but it wouldn’t work but what he wanted to try I’m not sure

[pliant cloak]

nibbles almost got their 15 minutes of fame there

[tropic bone]

I'm grateful that gamepass introduced me to this fantastic game, but since multiplayer works on steam and it's on 60% sale for 10$, i've made the decision to transfer my profile over to there instead.

good luck to everyone else here stuck with the mp issues still, i hope it gets fixed for you guys

[gusty viper]

i am thinking of buying it on steam, but i am saving for A VR set

curently Quest 2 is $250 on amazon

[amber ivy]

haha i have both and it vost me money

and nice dude! vr is amazing

[gusty viper]

OMG i just realized what season 3 could be

Rival Mutation

and for the season pass or dlc, Infected/Living Weapons

BIO Engineered DREADNOUGHTS

The "something even worse" that gets hinted at by Mission Control

[gentle abyss]

There was the meatball in central park...

[gusty viper]

yuo know what that MAY make more sense

but a massive meatball kindof doesn't fit the theme

[wicked whale]

The flood are coming to kill us all

[celest schooner]

Damn undead popcorn

[wicked whale]

Cool biome would be a meat cavern, sorta like doom or a flood level from halo.

Sound design in deep rock is outstanding, maybe they’d make the squish of your footsteps satisfying like stepping on a bloopy fruit

But it would be filled with abominations and nightmares

Cartoony though. Don’t wanna give kids PTSD

[celest schooner]

I would only like the biome if it was named “Meat Canyon”

[gusty viper]

i just would like a hive like from the aliens franchice

[pliant cloak]

the eldritch spaghetti monster...

o h n o . . .

[devout dome]

this concept triggered memories of Terraria .... dang Wall of Flesh enemy and Crimson biome

[fading zealot]

It's rated T for a reason

[wicked whale]

Knowing the rating system it should be M for the amount of alcohol consumed per minute as well as the bug gore

Devs pls don’t change it though. Never change it.

[obtuse fiber]

The developers don’t have a say in USA. That belong to the ESRB group

https://www.esrb.org

[wicked whale]

Duh. I mean don’t remove gore or alcohol.

[latent pecan]

anyone wanna party up i've just started

[obtuse fiber]

i cant wait until season 3 hopefully multiplayer will be fixed by then

[gusty viper]

another 5 month

[obtuse fiber]

if the devs cant reproduce the crash then it might take that long or if they cant make a debug build for us to try

[gusty viper]

i am curious because a long time ago i got a Xbox origin crash report for Tipping Floyd, but in this instance no such report program kicks in.

[obtuse fiber]

i recommend playing something else if u cant enjoy DRG right now like either minecraft or something else, at least all is not lost since for me it works on my series x

at least for me i have over 100 games to enjoy

[gusty viper]

well i just ordered a Quest

[obtuse fiber]

honestly VR is not much to enjoy esp since minecraft demo of VR from microsoft never happened

that way at least

this way for minecraft VR, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgakdcEzVwg

[gusty viper]

but MC does have vr support

[obtuse fiber]

yeah but not from that video from 2015

[gusty viper]

you can still play minecraft VR

[obtuse fiber]

im not shelling out 3,500 dollars for hololens 2 unless GSG buys me one to test out DRG in VR on microsoft store

lol

[gusty viper]

quest 2 is only 300

[obtuse fiber]

just imagine DRG in VR on hololens 2

you have bugs coming out of ur walls in ur house lol

[gusty viper]

yes, drg VR would be painful even in Haz2, but that doesn't mean the devs can't have a platform rebalance system

doesn't have to happen, but the devs have given Modders the capability to mod in vr

[obtuse fiber]

yeah only for steam, i tried to play DRG in my windows house in VR and it didnt like that at all

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/mixed-reality/discover/navigating-the-windows-mixed-reality-home

controller was controlling my character in VR cliff house not DRG window

[gusty viper]

because drg vr is a steam MOD. Microsoft drg doesn't have MOD support

[obtuse fiber]

well that depends on GSG if they wanna add mod support to DRG

[gusty viper]

steam does, not Microsoft, still waiting on that

https://drg.mod.io/vrg yes vr drg does exsist

[obtuse fiber]

Technically all GSG has to do is add mod.io to Microsoft build and just let mods have support for windows build and deny Xbox mod support

[wicked whale]

Play elden ring instead of deep rock

Especially if you love pain. I love pain.

[gusty viper]

Precisely, thats what MW5 did

[obtuse fiber]

Is that an offer for you to buy it for me lol

[wicked whale]

No it’s not ;)

Besides I live in Canada, I couldn’t even if I wanted to

Or Skyrim lol. Why fix your game when modders do it for free and far better.

[gusty viper]

i even has an argument about this

[worthy lily]

anyone want to do a edd my gt is ajzgdz220

[obtuse fiber]

@gusty viper do u happen to have steam installed on ur computer

if u do you could add me on steam and see if any games you have and i have to play together since DRG is not possible right now

lets hope bjorn and the QA/coders can figure out why certain people cant play multiplayer

@rotund dagger what are ur computer specs i wanna see something

im starting to see something with multiplayer crashing but id like to see @rotund dagger specs to either confirm or deny what im thinking it might be

do u have intel or AMD CPU

do i have to say the name 3 times to appear lol

[meager pawn]

nibbles, stop harassing people

[obtuse fiber]

im not im trying to figure out specs and see why multiplayer is crashing i think im on to something

[meager pawn]

that's fine that you're on to something but you don't need to spam ping them

[obtuse fiber]

unless u wanna test something out for me lol

[meager pawn]

Mako will see the pings later, give them time to get back to you

[worthy lily]

why do u guys want to ban me?

[meager pawn]

You got the reactions because nibbles is being a weenie and you posted in the wrong channel. LFG for the xbox/windows version of drg can be found at #lfg-xbox-microsoft

[rotund dagger]

My name was only said twice. I'm not sure if I should answer yet, or wait for a third time...

[gusty viper]

LFGs?

[meager pawn]

Looking For Group

[gusty viper]

also, WHO is nibbles

[obtuse fiber]

I’m nibbles and they like to pick on me and call me names

Borderline harassment according to discord TOS

[gusty viper]

i have seen worse

[obtuse fiber]

I was in a server and someone called me a dumbass and the naughty word once

[gusty viper]

heard worse personaly

[obtuse fiber]

The worse I’ve done in real life is call someone’s wife a bag

[gusty viper]

😖

[obtuse fiber]

I wanna see if multiplayer crashing is caused by having AMD CPUs

Since U have AMD and so do I

I wanted to ask someone else but if I ping again tater is going to get my account banned from being used on all discord servers

If stoicmako has intel CPU then crashes might be caused by using AMD CPUs

[obtuse fiber]

Also if I @ someone in the correct channel they should know that is where you put LFG requests. Jacob still hasn’t gotten rid of the description on this channel about LFG

I have the AMD 5900x with 12 cores

[gusty viper]

yah thats deceptive labeling

[obtuse fiber]

And that’s what causes problems with LFG requests

[gusty viper]

hold that thought

[obtuse fiber]

Ok lol

Of course I could try my brothers computer since he has an intel CPU

[gusty viper]

yah my future brother in law was able to play MP on my dad's computer. just checked and it has Intel