#xbox-and-windows-store

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fossil tinsel
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does the pinned message about transferring saves between windows store and steam still work after update 34.5?

vernal wigeon
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pumpkins dont have a chance to drop error cubes like christmas presents do right?

celest schooner
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Pumpkins spawn swarmers if memory serves me right

vernal wigeon
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swarmers and sometiems loot bugs

celest schooner
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Haven’t seen anything other than creepy crawlies spawn from pumpkins.

fierce dagger
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Could hide some bittergems in em

rotund dagger
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I don't think I've tried, but I would hope so

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(I read the update number as 31.5 at first 😵‍💫 )

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I'll give it a go real quick. For science!

rotund dagger
glossy echo
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Hello lads what’s happening brother’s

rotund dagger
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Halloween Event! Wooooo 🥳

glossy echo
rotund dagger
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Rock and Stone!

cobalt depot
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Hoping we get crossplay with PS4 now that it is rumored!
Imagine all the greenbeards

unreal radish
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I wouldn't hold your breath. Their playerbase will be segregated just like steam and the microsoft version. That is unless GSG has completely overhauled the networking backend.

rotund dagger
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Sony has been hard to work with in terms of crossplay. They've relaxed a little, but I believe that's often only been when they've made a deal that makes them money

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Steam, at least, doesn't seem to put up barriers, so if it happens anywhere, it'd likely be there first, but would require a significant time and resource investment to make that happen, as The Loan Ranger mentions

cobalt arrow
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Does that mean there's no plans for PC crossplay in the future? I know games like Grounded have done it, though I'm not sure how difficult it would be to implement

celest schooner
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We already have crossplay between Xbox and Windows.

rotund dagger
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It means there are no announced plans at this time to add any additional crossplay beyond what Lambentcy mentioned. There is just no easy way to do it; every platform uses its own, different account and they are not inherently compatible with each other, and neither are the matchmaking networks those platforms use. GSG would have to design a whole new system to be able to have players on different networks communicate with each other. It is a time-intensive and resource-intensive problem to solve

celest schooner
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In other words: Pain

rotund dagger
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In the immortal words of Stephen Stills: "if you can't be with the one you love, honey, love the one you're with."

celest schooner
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StoicMako MVP When?

rotund dagger
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😆

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I'd apologize for getting that stuck in anyone's head, except it's also stuck in mine now and it's a good song, so you're welcome!

lofty orchid
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Is it against this discord servers rules to ask if anyone would be willing to stream deep Rock Galactic with me? Asking for a friend

rotund dagger
# lofty orchid Is it against this discord servers rules to ask if anyone would be willing to st...

You can read through the rules in the #welcome-and-rules channel. You're of course welcome to ask if folks would like to play DRG with you, and I don't think the fact that you want to stream changes that. That said, I think it's important to make it clear to people you're grouping up with that you plan to stream, for everyone's sake. (Playing with an open session with random folk jumping in and out is what it is, but with a set group it's impolite and potentially problematic for the streamer to not let folks know.)

rotund dagger
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I'm no authority, though, and as fun as it is to growl "I am the law" in my best (read: really, really bad) Sylvester Stallone voice, I really cannot speak for those who make/enforce the rules, so please take my impression of things as simply my impression of things

worldly cairn
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does anyone know if the bug for xbox to windows has been fixed?

rotund dagger
worldly cairn
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there was a bug that when me and my friends tried to play on the x box for pc console it would say party was disbanded when it wasnt

rotund dagger
# worldly cairn there was a bug that when me and my friends tried to play on the x box for pc co...

There is an issue where sessions can become desynced, but I don't believe it has anything to do specifically with crossplay between Xbox and Windows.

If you're unable to join/invite friends, there's a few things to try/check:

  • Make sure everyone's system times are correct. Incorrect system times will prevent successful inviting and joining. The best thing to do is set time and time zone to update automatically.
  • Have everyone who is trying to play together completely exit and relaunch the game within a few minutes of each other. This will refresh the session and fix the issues with inviting/joining. Wait until you are loaded fully into the game and can run around the space rig before inviting/joining. If this doesn't work the first time, have everyone reboot their systems and try again. This always works for my friends and I, crossplay or otherwise.
  • There are messages explaining some Microsoft account settings in the pinned messages in this channel. Check those if you're still having issues.
  • Some folks have mentioned disabling IPv6 on PC has fixed their issues with inviting/joining
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Not sure when you last tried, but there was an update a year ago that greatly improved networking issues. This is only anecdotal, but I feel like folks are experiencing fewer issues since then. I know my friends and I certainly are

midnight oracle
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Anyone wanna play?

hushed quiver
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Is there any plans to make Xbox cross play with steam?

meager pawn
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Nope

sacred stump
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which sucks

sacred stump
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anyone on wanna play?

celest wave
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is there a reason why there is no halloween event on windows ?

obtuse fiber
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@celest wave yeah the reason is Microsoft lol

celest wave
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i could force the update by reinstalling

bright vine
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Anyone can play with me?

glossy echo
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Does anyone know when deep rock galactic is getting a upgrade for Xbox?

rotund dagger
rotund dagger
glossy echo
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Ohhh ok

obtuse fiber
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Question for Jacob I just read that an employee left GSG for io company and on a whiteboard in hitman 3 reads for Karl. Is it possible that Karl’s really a hit man killing bugs

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Because the game is built around lighting your own way through dark cave systems, ray-tracing is off the table. But expect higher resolutions and smoother fps, which is something the developer can tap into on Xbox "for free".

magic pewter
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Well, one of the founders is from IO, so who even knows at this point 🤷🏻‍♂️

celest schooner
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AEIOU

outer cape
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a friend of mine decided to play deep rock after not playing for six months, and now he gets severe rubber banding no matter who he plays with or playing alone. This is on Xbox Series X and he tried uninstalling and reinstalling it. Any suggestions on what to do?

light niche
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That shouldn’t be happening, could be an internet issue..?

outer cape
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Nope

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All his other games run fine

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It's just deep rock that has issues

light niche
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He shouldn’t be rubber banding by himself so I’m not sure

outer cape
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Even in the space rig it's really bad

light niche
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I lag when I’m not hosting but that’s normal in some cases, but whenever I’m host I never have any issues besides the occasional frame drop

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Not sure tbh on a fix, only thing I could think of is internet or if he’s downloading something while playing

outer cape
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Neither of those

light niche
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Maybe they could help

outer cape
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They sent me here

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Lmao

light niche
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Damn lol

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Idk tbh, I’ve never had an issue with rubber banding in this game unless there’s like incredible lag

outer cape
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He says its pretty much unplayable for him

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Really sucks because we were gonna play the new update when it comes out

light niche
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Idk, could be the game for him. I don’t know for sure, hopefully someone here can help at some point

outer cape
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Yeah he likes the game a lot so he's pretty pissed

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Only thing I can think of is that his save might be corrupted

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Or the local game data in general

light niche
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That could be a thing as well, I think I had that issue as well so I had to go to a previous save

outer cape
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Unfortunately he's on console so I don't think that's possible

rotund dagger
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I'm pretty sure the Restore Save option is available on console

outer cape
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Is it? If it exists on console I've never seen it

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Is it in options or something?

rotund dagger
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Options -> Save Menu

outer cape
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Thanks, I'll see if that works for him tomorrow

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Losing a few hours of progress is better than not being able to play at all

rotund dagger
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I think so too

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But the Restore Save feature should hopefully avoid that

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If the save is the issue, of course

outer cape
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Although I wonder how TF his save would have gotten corrupted in the first place. Maybe in the save transfer from Xbox one to series X

rotund dagger
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Those kinds of things do work pretty well, but seldom work flawlessly every single time

outer cape
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Series X is known to be kinda screwy in general

rotund dagger
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Your friend may want to try a factory reset too, if the save file doesn't seem to make a difference

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I know that's kinda the nuclear option, but it is an option

outer cape
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I don't know if he would be willing to reinstall all his games to play deep rock lol

rotund dagger
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I totally understand, but it's the only thing I can think of to truly rule out all other issues

outer cape
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Yeah

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Hopefully it's just a save transfer issue

rotund dagger
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And the only argument I can make in favor of it is, if there is something wrong at the console level, it may begin to affect other games as well at some point

outer cape
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I know his issue only started after he played it on series x

rotund dagger
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But I know it's still a big thing to try

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Yeah, try deleting the save first, and if a fresh save fixes things, then try restoring a previous save to see if any are good. Then at least you know a fresh save will do the trick

outer cape
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He already said if he has to do a fresh save and restart all his progress he's done with deep rock

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So we'll try restoring a previous save

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He's put about 10 days in the game so I understand that

rotund dagger
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Yeah, you gotta make the choices that are right for you. How much time and energy is one game worth? There's a different answer for every person and every game

outer cape
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I'd do the same since I've got every overclock and some exclusive cosmetics lol

rotund dagger
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I'll say I've started over when I started again on Steam, to play with a friend who was just starting. It was fun, and not nearly as bad as I thought it might be

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But I knew I could always copy my progress to Steam at any time, so that helped

outer cape
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I've also spent hours customizing my dwarves

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So yeah that's the biggest thing for me

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I'd lose my shit if I lost my black redneck mohawk engi

rotund dagger
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The flip side is, once you've got everything, you miss the "ooo, what new thing did I just get" factor. Starting over gives you that again. But there's plenty of games I wouldn't dream of starting over

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Everyone is going to havea different list when it comes to what they're willing to replay

outer cape
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Yeah its just I've spent so much time personalizing my dwarves.

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I honestly love those little shits

rotund dagger
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Deep Rock is a game I'd miss more than I'd desire not to start over. It would be rough, but it makes the cut for me

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But there's so many games and so little time, so not every game can be like that

outer cape
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Yeah

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Deep Rock is definitely up there on my best games of all time list

rotund dagger
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Rock and Stone! I haven't seen anyone here mentioning experiencing what your friend has, so hopefully it is a rare hiccup like a save issue, and restoring an older save gets things going again

tropic bone
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Can I post in Looking for group for Xbox?

rotund dagger
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You will mostly find Steam players in the #lfg-steam channel. This channel is more likely to help you find folks on the Xbox and Microsoft Store versions. Also, in the #welcome-and-rules channel you can give yourself the Xbox role (look for the Platform Role Assignment section), and that will unlock the Xbox/MS voice pods which folks also use to group up on these versions

tropic bone
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Ok thanks

celest schooner
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StoicMako MVP

tropic bone
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So uh. Anyone wanna do a deep dive with me

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Just promoted so it'll be my first one

lofty orchid
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Is anyone aware how to get multiple save files on Xbox?

hexed glade
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Hey guys, in a few hours I'm gonna be trying the maximum D R U N K challenge, but only on haz 2 cause yk, I'm bad. Anyone wanna join me?

lofty orchid
hexed glade
obtuse fiber
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Did we ever get Halloween event

light niche
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Yes

magic pewter
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Days ago.

finite eagle
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I hope mission will stay for long, can't play for few days Sconk

magic pewter
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Until Nov 1st

obtuse fiber
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im officially back from circusville lol

glossy echo
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October is almost done lads

raven ridge
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well i've experienced this so far, i am no longer able to transfer save data between steam and microsoft store due to what im guessing is a windows update, also just lost my progress in the microsoft store again, checked the thing to get your save data back and nothing was there, so im uninstalling microsoft store version and installing it again to see if that works, mainly care because all my friends play microsoft store version due to one of us playing on xbox, making the steam version just for use of multiplayer on this server and solo stuff if i really want to using it.

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cri

rotund dagger
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That's rough. Hopefully reinstalling will give you the Restore save choices

raven ridge
rotund dagger
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It is possible that moving saves from Steam to Windows is no longer working, since Steam now has mod support. I did just move from Windows to Steam to test that, and that seemed okay

glossy echo
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The first thing I’m going to do with update 35 unlock all of the new weapons

raven ridge
sly stone
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Did you accidentally change your file explorer settings to hide filename extensions?

rotund dagger
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The setting is called "Hide extensions for known file types," in the View tab of the File Explorer settings. You want to make sure it is unselected

raven ridge
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I’ll check tomorrow, thanks. (I’m on my phone atm) If it is on then I’d be a bit confused as to why, I mean I don’t remember ever turning it on in the first place. That’s probably the issue though.

rotund dagger
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It's on by default in a fresh install of Windows

raven ridge
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Ah

magic pewter
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QA hates it. 😅

hexed glade
obtuse fiber
magic pewter
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It’s not the support as much as the modded content.

obtuse fiber
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then remove modded content lol JK

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Anybody on here need some bugs reported besides the network stats not saving

pliant cloak
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That update was supposed to be launched back in Sept, but it has been delayed to Nov 4th

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So you came back in time lol

obtuse fiber
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looks like i cant create a bug report for any bugs i find

obtuse fiber
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looks like ill have to report bugs in here

glossy echo
lean rock
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the new weapons look fun

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but im more excited about the new mission type

lean rock
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i'm finding it really difficult to play this with friends

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everytime i find someone that owns it, they have the steam version

obtuse fiber
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believe it or not but i run into alot of people owning it on microsoft while on icarus server lol

rotund dagger
brittle nacelle
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That's really a shitty solution; I'm not sure how true it is, as I haven't really dug into it, but it seems we have M$ to blame for the lack of cross play.

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I guess there may be some technical issue in the current implementation too, but technical issues are solvable... people being jerks is usually more complicated.

rotund dagger
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It's not really anyone being jerks exactly, unless you classify building separate systems without access to other companies' proprietary technology "being jerks." The systems are just not inherently compatible. It would take work on either Steam's and Microsoft's parts to make their systems compatible, or on the individual game devs to make a system that is compatible with both

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The fact is simply the Steam version does not have crossplay, so if you want to play with folks on Steam, you must own the Steam version

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Microsoft has set their side of things up in a way that it is relatively easy for a dev to make the console and PC versions of a game crossplay by having both use the same backend system. And even then, crossplay between console and PC is a relatively new development in the grand scheme of things. It's getting better, slowly, but it is getting better

brittle nacelle
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This contradicts what I heard earlier today on this same Discord server.

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Someone was blaming M$ for the lack of crossplay. I get what you're saying though. My initial suspicion was that Valve/Steam didn't want to play nice(because why would they?)

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To be fair, both companies have the resources to make it work if they really wanted to, but doing so really doesn't benefit either of them directly.

rotund dagger
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The "what's in it for me?" thing has definitely been part of it. But luckily Steam and Microsoft at least have made their systems in such a way that the devs can make their own system that can tie everything together. That being said, it's no small feat for a dev to build their own system to tie everything together, and as a smaller, indie dev, you have to make tough decisions based on your limited resources

hexed glade
rotund dagger
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And yep, the platform holders could come together to build their own stuff to work together, but it is still not a small amount of work and would require a ton of coordination between two completely separate companies that operate fairly differently even within the same space

hexed glade
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By the way, we dont give Stoic enough credit, he basically carries this entire platform for DRG

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Thanks for that dude

rotund dagger
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You're welcome! I'm just happy I can (try to) help. DRG is pretty dang great, and this community is pretty dang great. There's enough negative stuff in the world, if I can take a little negativity out of how someone is feeling about DRG or whatever in the moment, I want to at least try when I can

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Because I've definitely been there myself about one game or another, or about one thing or another, and DRG in general has been such a positive experience for me it feels right to try to reciprocate

brittle nacelle
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I actually was hoping I'd be able to buy it on GoG. I honestly would gladly give the devs another $30 to have a copy that I didn't have to put up with either M$ or Valve to play.

rotund dagger
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Although I just realized I have no idea what kind of multiplayer/matchmaking backend GoG has built in, so that could be a barrier to entry for a game where multiplayer is kinda the hook

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I wouldn't be surprised to find that they've developed something to make things work, but I've never looked into it or heard anything about it

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Everything I have on GoG is truly a Good Old (single-player) Game, haha

brittle nacelle
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Yeah, they've been working on developing a new image that doesn't rely so heavily on the idea that they are all about old games. Part of the reason they've rebranded their own logo.
On the subject of DRG specifically, it doesn't seem to me that it would be a big problem to enable local LAN play, except that I'm not sure if the client program actually has all the data needed to make that happen currently. I'm just saying from a user standpoint, it seems like it would make perfect sense for that to be an option. I'd gladly buy three more copies of the game so my kids could all play if that was the case.

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GoG specifically does have games that support multiplayer, but I think it's usually client hosted(so... not altogether different from LAN play, but going accross the internets).

lean rock
brittle nacelle
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And if you're wondering why I won't buy three more copies anyway; my primary internet connection is 1 Mbps so online play for lots of people is generally not great, to say the least, in addition to the fact that if anyone is trying to watch videos it usually tanks the multiplayer gaming throughput badly enough to make it unplayable.

rotund dagger
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Oh, true, LAN makes sense. And the way DRG works, it's already a server-client setup like a LAN game would be. I believe it would be possible to make DRG do this without a completely gigantic amount of work, but it would still require some work. And, if you're not opposed to using Steam or Microsoft, playing together locally should still be achievable provided your network is setup correctly (a few caveats, I know...)

lean rock
rotund dagger
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Obviously the completely LAN solution would avoid the WAN limitations

brittle nacelle
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Precisely. As an example, my kids all enjoy playing Minecraft together, and often even have 6+ player games going within the house when friends come over.

hexed glade
brittle nacelle
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I found a multiplayer adventure mode map called "Chunk Defense" that's strikingly similar to DRG in it's core gameplay.

rotund dagger
# lean rock definitely not gonna mess around with save files

If you make backups of your save files, it greatly reduces the risk of anything bad happening, but I totally understand not wanting to mess with files; it's not a difficult process, but it's not the most straightforward either. It could easily be outside someone's comfort zone and/or "willing to jump through hoops just to make this work" zone

hexed glade
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Keep up the good crusade

rotund dagger
high echo
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anyone wanna do an elite deep dive, need 2

lean rock
brittle nacelle
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I would suspect it's not even possible on console, but the last time I screwed with console storage was XBox 360, so it may have changed.

rotund dagger
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Only a little more involved, but consoles are great because you don't have to fuss with any of that. I can't blame anyone for happily avoiding file-shuffling

brittle nacelle
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I'm of the opposite opinion; rather that consoles are terrible because you tend not to have that access.

rotund dagger
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Because of that, you can then get your console save on the PC, and then copy it over to Steam

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It's not a completely straightforward process, but it's not too wild

brittle nacelle
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There you go. So basically the current gen XBox is ever so slightly better than PlayStation if you also own a Windows 10 PC(which, admittedly, most people probably do).

lean rock
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i've always preferred console myself, but am of the opinion that one should play on what they wish to

rotund dagger
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I think it's really easy to see the appeal of both

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And anything that lets more folks get in and have some fun can't be a bad thing

brittle nacelle
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I only see that appeal when I don't have to download everything. Big fan of the current Nintendo Switch implementation; own all my Switch games on cartridge.

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I don't DL my C.

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I have friends who update all their games once every few months when they fly to the nearest big city.

lean rock
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i like looking at physical copies on a shelf, they look nice

rotund dagger
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Physical copies on a shelf definitely scratch a collector's itch, haha

brittle nacelle
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That's a big part of the reason why my last console purchase was an XBox 360. If I have to download everything anyway, then there's no advantage to buying a console(for me).

rotund dagger
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It's becoming less and less possible to enjoy new games without needing to download stuff, unfortunately. Updates are nice, but I've fallen off a lot of games that constantly update and then feel like I have to balance the feeling of "I might be missing out" against the feeling of "but I'm done with this game already..."

obtuse fiber
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I wonder how many people already changed their discord name to have windows mod in them lol

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Imagine a full Xbox/windows chat filled with support mods on windows lol

rotund dagger
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And we could all change our profile pictures to be the same! Embrace the chaos!

obtuse fiber
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I wonder if any mod makers replaced the dwarfs model yet with Minecraft villagers lol

obtuse fiber
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I found a bug opening up gamebar to send invites to friends causes the game to dip down to 12 FPS and after a while it goes back up to about 150 FPS

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Using windows 11

solemn frigate
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anyone tryna play?

hexed glade
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im waiting until its a year+ old

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hopefully bug fixes will iron out the wrinkles

chrome venture
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Hey

stark cave
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Hey

chrome venture
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SNICKLE????

stark cave
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YOLA????

pliant cloak
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Snackle

celest schooner
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STEAM BOY

obtuse fiber
tropic bone
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Anyone not having The Unknown Horror spawn on haunted cave missions on Xbox? Done 3 and no spawn

rotund dagger
sly stone
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GSG took notes in their literature class, and decided to give us a mission type focused on "Man vs Self" conflict

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Perhaps the unknown horror was never the true danger threatening our saftey. Instead it was our own drive to seek yet harder missions and modifiers that would ultimately lead to an untimely and unnecessary demise

rotund dagger
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🤯

obtuse fiber
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perhaps im the unknown horror you never know when i show up

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question how hard really is it to support mods on windows since steam is using mod.io and mod.io works on some microsoft store games i play

rotund dagger
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It would cause problems with crossplay, at least with any mod that requires both host and client to have the mod installed. So for the reason that mods would break a significant feature I would think they're less likely to happen regardless of how difficult it would be to implement

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Pure speculation on my part, of course

obtuse fiber
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i dont think so ive come across some xbox one players that have modded consoles

rotund dagger
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Official mod support on consoles has been pretty restricted in what the mods can do -- often limiting mods to cosmetic changes -- in an attempt at reducing possible system hacks. Anything that would modify how a game behaves could potentially allow someone to make a mod that breaks things in such a way that gains them more access than they should have. That's part of what the Microsoft update/patch certification process checks for, I believe

obtuse fiber
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can you explain why mod.io supports xbox one then

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Console mod support is possible right now
While it’s true that there are some additional requirements to enable mod support on consoles, they are ‘common sense’ problems that are solved by design with the mod.io platform. Primarily, these are;

Mods may be limited in terms of what they can do, for example, scripting
You must pass all content through the console platform’s language filters
Robust moderation tools must be in place to deal with objectionable content
We set out to design mod.io with all of these challenges in mind, to make cross-platform mod support as easy as possible for developers. Our platform has already made mod support possible on Xbox for Space Engineers, with games including Snowrunner, Skater XL and TABS next in line.

rotund dagger
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Sure. Cosmetic mods (usually) should not cause problems, so they would be acceptable. Anything that makes a character, object, or world simply look a little different would probably be fine

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Anything that changes, or adds functionality onto, how a game works could potentially be problematic, and would therefore be less likely to be allowed unless they get certified. And they'd probably have to be official mods made by the developer to get certified

obtuse fiber
rotund dagger
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I'm actually at work, haha, so I cannot watch a video anytime soon

obtuse fiber
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then get back to work lol

lean rock
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messaged a couple of people about joining their drg groups posted on xbox, but I keep getting no replies

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there are a few that don't want higher ranked players either, sigh

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tough to find people

minor gyro
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I’ll play with you gamer

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I’m on rn

lean rock
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oh?

minor gyro
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Dm me your gamertag and I’ll add you

obtuse fiber
rotund dagger
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Dang it, nibbles! This is why we can't have nice things...

tropic bone
chrome venture
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Hey

hexed glade
fair monolith
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just got this game on gamepass for pc anyone looking to play with someone brand new?

sacred stump
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anyone wanna play? gonna promote my scout then im down for whatever

obtuse fiber
tropic bone
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Yeet

glossy echo
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You guys are awesome rock and stone! rocknstone

runic sapphire
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Hey gang do we know when the Halloween event ends in game?

rotund dagger
rotund dagger
glossy echo
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Thanks lad

glossy echo
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Do I still get to see the trailer for update 35

light niche
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Yes

analog pumice
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Pod 24 trying to do haze 4 on XB/WS

fierce dagger
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The dialogue trick worked great for muffled audio bug

tropic bone
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Hey, I'm trying to launch the game on Xbox game pass, and it lets me open up the loading screen, but then the game goes black to no avail. any fixes? thanks!

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im on pc btw

finite eagle
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Check for drivers update

runic sapphire
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Yeah Xbox App on windows doesn't auto update iirc your best bet is a reinstall

tropic bone
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reinstalled like 5 times :(

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still dont work

runic sapphire
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Nuts sorry I can't be more help

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Damn the upcoming update sure is a chonker! They weren't exaggerating one bit. Looks excessively neat drillchamp

cobalt depot
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So good! I missed the beginning haven't watched the trailer yet because I don't want to miss anything on stream

obtuse fiber
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Holy shit no wonder the update got delayed that’s a lot of content to deal with

runic sapphire
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DummythiccXL

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The Bosco skin they showed on stream made me big happ

obtuse fiber
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That pass is going to be fun to level up

obsidian elm
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a hour per level for the pass lmao

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sounds like a bit much

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other than that small complaint the update looks pretty good

stuck nimbus
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Does anyone know if the update is coming out on the fourth on Xbox and steam, or if it will be released a week or two later like the other updates have been

obtuse fiber
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Always 1-2 weeks after steam

stuck nimbus
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Ok thank you

obsidian elm
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its coming out on the 18th for xbox

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they mentioned it on the dev stream

obtuse fiber
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nice level dwarf in youtube trailer lol did i see a rank over 12,000

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did they say when experimental will be released

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never mind its out now lol

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I really wish developers would make DRG insider a separate app to test for bugs

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Wow playfab plans are expensive as hell from 99 dollars a month to 1,999 dollars a month

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I wonder what plan GSG chose

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HOLY SHIT GSGMAN aka Batman you guys enabled VR plug-in for modders to have fun with it. I might be going over to steam version if modders can do a great job on it

quartz horizon
regal breach
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we sure did, hopefully someone will make use of it 🙂

obsidian elm
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VR drg sounds like a meme tbh

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Thanks autocorrect

regal breach
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hopefully!

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people love memes, they are all over the place

rotund dagger
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I sure someone will! Right before they pick scout and frantically zip around with the grappling hook and instantly get a little 🤢

obsidian elm
#

Well time to get some more cores I guess will I wait for the update

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I got all the weapon cores so I get 4 blanks a week now

analog pumice
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anyone on???

hardy locust
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Hey miners did somebody know if the pas gonna be free or we gonna need to buy it with irl money or game money error cube or smh like that (sorry for my English)

analog pumice
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its free

lofty orchid
analog pumice
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plus you can earn the items after it ends too

hardy locust
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Ahhh thanks i'm pretty bad in English i drop put school in first grade ahah thanks all

obsidian elm
#

Can we talk about leaks here

obsidian elm
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Well fuck it then. A ps4 version for drg got rated in Taiwan

obtuse fiber
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Only leak we talk about is the leak in the spacerig pipes @obsidian elm

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A new listing appeared on Taiwan’s national game ratings board, indicating that the mining-survival title Deep Rock Galactic will come to the PS4 and PS5 in the near future. There is currently no information on a possible release date. Neither developer Ghost Ship Games nor publisher Coffee Stain Studios have confirmed the PlayStation ports. However, the Taiwan game ratings board has accurately leaked upcoming game releases in the past.

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If that’s true then say goodbye to #xbox-insider-discussion and say hello to #playstation or if they make it crossplay with Microsoft store and PlayStation store then say goodbye to #xbox-and-windows-store and hello to #crossplay/xbox/ps

unreal radish
obtuse fiber
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That’s possible also lol

lofty orchid
stark cave
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Truly a name of quality!

celest schooner
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Just refer to the pinned messages

sacred stump
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im having issues on copying my data from windows to steam

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i dont have any of the options when i read or watching videos on it

rotund dagger
# sacred stump i dont have any of the options when i read or watching videos on it

In "File Explorer Options" (click Windows Start menu and search for that to get there quickly), go to the "View" tab, and check the "Advanced settings:" to make sure you have "Show hidden files, folders, and drives" is selected and "Hide extensions for known file types" is not selected.

By default, Windows has both of those set the opposite way, which makes it difficult to find and rename the save files.

Make sure you get both the name and the file extension correct when renaming the file

acoustic palm
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i cant join my friends and or invite them on gamepass eventhough we are all on pc, "we all have gamepass"

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😭

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@peak dock

unreal radish
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Pedro gets pinged, take a drink.

acoustic palm
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so im not gonna get any help?

sly stone
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Pinging Pedro is like anti-asking for help

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If you use the search function or take a look back through this channel manually, though, there's a good chance you can find some common troubleshooting steps

acoustic palm
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ima be looking for hours lmao

obtuse fiber
#

Also pinging Pedro is like asking the mods to dunce you as Pedro no longer is at GSG

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Only recommendation I have is try disabling ipv6 if your isp doesn’t support it or update network card

rotund dagger
# acoustic palm i cant join my friends and or invite them on gamepass eventhough we are all on p...

First, make sure everyone manually checks for updates. Next, make sure everyone's system clocks are accurate. Best thing to do is check that your time and your time zone are set to update automatically.

With everyone exited from the game, have everyone launch the game within a few minutes of each other. Sessions can become desync'd which will not allow you to invite or join, and the only way to re-sync is to exit the game and relaunch within a few minutes of each other. Try this any time you're unable to invite/join. If it doesn't work the first time, have everyone reboot and try again. This works extremely consistently for us.

Wait until you are fully loaded into the space rig and able to run around before attempting to invite/join.

If all of the above do not work, disable IPv6 on your PC, and check the pinned messages in this channel for info on some account settings that may cause issues with multiplayer

acoustic palm
#

i tried disabling ipv6 and it still did not work

rotund dagger
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Okay, did you check everything else? Because disabling IPv6 is definitely lower on the list of things to try

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And if you can join random games, just not friends, it might be them that needs to check and change things...

peak dock
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Well I don't mind people pinging me to be honest, but I shouldn't set a precedent for it or some people will throw rocks at me 😛

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I just don't know how to help you with that particular issue, except redirecting you to the pinned troubleshooting posts

meager pawn
regal breach
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i will only throw mable sirup at pedro!

quartz horizon
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In the bottle or via sludge pump?

celest schooner
#

Vote for Pedro for new GSG president

flat crest
#

Will the battlepass season 1 for xbox start when xbox gets the update or will it start when PC gets U35?

tropic bone
#

Xbox

flat crest
#

Cool

obsidian elm
#

The next season will most likely have a 2 week delay again so it will even out

acoustic palm
sly stone
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Did you check your system clock settings?

pastel girder
#

is xbox getting this season 1 update the same time as steam

fierce dagger
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Normally 2 weeks ish after pc update

lethal quartz
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November 18th I believe for xbox/Microsoft

rotund dagger
fierce dagger
#

Fuck! Time to hunt bittergems before they reset again

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Cant we just postpone this update to like mid 2022/2023? Give me time to get stuff done before it breaks again

rotund dagger
glossy echo
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😕

celest schooner
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Turn the frown upside down. :]

stark cave
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]:

runic sapphire
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I wonder if the whole türbø robo heist time will have any new music at all, not that I'm expecting it

obtuse fiber
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RIP no new overclocks for old weapons

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@runic sapphire it’s called industrial sabotage and that I know of no new music

lean rock
#

is there any word on raising the legendary cap?

obtuse fiber
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There’s no blue level cap and I think they said legendary stars will be the last until they decide otherwise

lean rock
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i'd love to be able to play my engi again without wasting exp

obtuse fiber
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@lean rock if they decide to up it all the exp and promotions you do will instant promote you. I was gold level stars and when they introduced legendary I was automatically ranked up with all my promotions I did

lean rock
#

oh dang really?

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that's something to keep in mind

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ima get the other 3 classes to gold for the achievement first, but i will keep that in mind

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thank you

obtuse fiber
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Np

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I’m testing out update 35 on steam if anybody has questions about it

rotund dagger
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Does it have that New Update Smell™️

obtuse fiber
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Yes and I’m wondering if new network stats will be allowed in Microsoft versions

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Anybody know what PL in and PL out means in networking terms

rotund dagger
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My first guess would be Packet Loss

obtuse fiber
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I think that’s true I just woke up so lol

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Look a baby molly

loud canyon
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anyonw playing on xbo

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x

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any xbox player looking to pl;ay

obtuse fiber
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I would but I’m testing out the new update

loud canyon
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ok

obsidian elm
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just realized

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ps4 crossplay most likely wont happen

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since devs have to pay for that on sony consoles

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lmao

obtuse fiber
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The player base for Sony is going to be smaller then us crossplay users lol @obsidian elm

obtuse fiber
#

The real question is has @rotund dagger ever been offline in discord, I only see as online day or night

rotund dagger
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||I'm always watching...||

obtuse fiber
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||That’s a big thumbs up for petting the hacking drone||

tight magnet
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Look for a 4th to join a group for a EDD

lost acorn
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@tight magnet I'm new too you wanna fumble in the dark together?

tight magnet
lost acorn
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Don't know?
I did tutorial

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Ok no need a promotion

tight magnet
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Awww dang sorry. You gotta have a character level 25 and prestige to do it

obtuse fiber
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Anyone still looking for a player

obtuse fiber
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@tight magnet still need a player

obtuse fiber
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That’s funny the site says the engineer can plant turrets and set up Gatling guns lol

light niche
#

Is deep rock really an Xbox exclusive though

obtuse fiber
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It was until 1.0 released

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I’m doing research into upgrading my ram from 16gb DDR4 2133mhz to about 32gb 3000mhz and was wondering if that’s enough for DRG and Icarus or should I go for 64gb RAM

regal breach
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128gb baby

light niche
obtuse fiber
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Microsoft and steam have a friendly business deal so to speak. Microsoft has been releasing a lot of first party titles on steam like halo master chief collection and other games that were once Microsoft store/Xbox exclusive only

light niche
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Makes sense

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I do hope PlayStation gets Drg. Idk about switch but who knows

obtuse fiber
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I read an article that said ghost ship games was either yelling or crying about switch’s very low ram and they won’t be making DRG on switch

obtuse fiber
regal breach
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no, you will have to sell your body

obtuse fiber
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Also @regal breach if you can let Microsoft know when opening up Xbox gamebar while playing games it causes games FPS to dip all the way to 12 FPS

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That’s on windows 11 it seems windows 10 was fine

paper hull
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Hey people, can someone tell me what version of the game they are using right now ?

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numbers should be in the bottom right of the escape menu.

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should be something like 1.34.XXXXX

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I'm trying to check in the version to help someone with a connectivity issue.

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anyone ?

paper hull
rotund dagger
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No problem at all!

onyx mist
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Just had a chat with @paper hull about a DRG problem in the windows store. We checked that the most recent version is installed and the firewall does not block anything. I still can't browse or connect to any servers, don't see any Halloween content and don't get weekly assignments. Seems to be a connection error, but I can't find hints on where/how it actually fails. Help, anyone? 😢

rotund dagger
onyx mist
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@rotund dagger thanks! Just tried turning off IPv6, but this did not help. Time is already in automatic mode, timezone is Germany

rotund dagger
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Dang! There are some Xbox account settings that you could check. You can find info about those in the pinned messages in this channel. I don't feel like that's it, but I'm not sure what else to try. Only other thing I can think of is make sure Windows itself is up-to-date

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I suspect exactly what you suspect: the fact that you're not getting the Halloween content upon launching the game makes me think you're not connecting to the servers at all. I'm not sure why that might be

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Oh, you could check your connection to the Xbox network! If you havent checked that yet, click the Windows Start menu and search for "Xbox networking"

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That might provide a clue

onyx mist
#

Indeed that seems to be a problem! I did not change network settings but maybe the last Windows Update (it's the latest Win10) changed something. I get the message "Teredo is unable to qualify" in the NAT Type section.

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I also uninstalled the game to see if a reinstall will work. Now my Windows Store does not let me install it again. I'm at SFC level now. But definitely not a problem from the game. It would be very helpful though if the game would surface this problem by itself...

rotund dagger
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The "Teredo is unable to qualify" message does not seem to be a problem exactly, but I don't understand why. I went down a rabbit hole trying to fix it once upon a time, and was never able to resolve that. However, I've had no issues that I can trace to that message, so I stopped trying to fix it. Just mentioning it because I don't want you to get too hung up on trying to make it go away. That's not to say that there's not something odd happening with Xbox networking in some way, like the Gaming Services service not working exactly right

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As for the game providing more info, Microsoft seems to limit what error/issue messages devs can put in games on their platforms. It's quite frustrating, probably for the devs as much if not more than for us

onyx mist
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Haha, there is a "fix it" button, that at least removed the error message. Now I have to reinstall the game with my crappy 10MBit-connection...

rotund dagger
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Fingers crossed that the reinstall works! Thankfully it's a relatively small download

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Yeah, the limitations on error messaging are rough. There's so many players who would be able to provide feedback or even just get clues as to how to fix things themselves. I can only guess why Microsoft has made that choice, but I don't think it's a great choice...

obtuse fiber
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Well Xbox is still messing around with server from September trying to fix NBA 2K21 so they might have messed something else up in the process

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Honestly I didn’t see a lot of reports about DRG until around September

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Maybe the engineer/tech pulled a plug lol

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Servers are a pain to maintain and fix

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I should know I tried Minecraft bedrock server software on a laptop from Walmart

cobalt depot
#

A friend of mine says he found a way to play Steam games on Xbox can you get banned for that?

obtuse fiber
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Depends on steams policy along with Microsoft’s policy but I’m thinking yes

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Unless it’s offline LAN then it should be fine but I don’t think that’s possible since you have to sign in to accounts

cobalt depot
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I know you can emulate old games from any older systems like ps1-2, Gamecube and all and it's approved just need to pay for dev mode but I think he's doing it through Microsoft Edge somehow

rotund dagger
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I believe I saw an article headline saying you could now use Nvidia GeForce Now on Xbox. GeForce Now is Nvidia's streaming cloud-gaming service that lets you play games in a Steam account, so it seems like there is indeed a legitimate way to do it

slim dirge
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Yeah they are probably talking about GeForce Now

cobalt depot
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Interesting I ll have to ask him more details when back online that might be it. I immediately thought of the possibility of playing the update earlier than the 18th lol

obtuse fiber
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I know a Minecraft YouTuber made it possible to play Minecraft bedrock and Java together on a server

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Ones coded in Java and the other is C++

rotund dagger
obtuse fiber
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I think @cobalt depot means using steam version while playing with Xbox players

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It’s possible with hard work coding and reliable servers lol

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Load DRG into a server rack and both steam and Microsoft could play together

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Well back to being tech support for my friends

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I set up a new router for him but forgot to add the network printer oof I got all his other devices from 4 rokus Xbox and 2 4K TVs

cobalt depot
rotund dagger
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Well... if you load up the Experimental branch of the Steam version, which is active right now, you can test everything. There's a terminal in the space rig that only exists in the Experimental branch. It allows you to give yourself credits, minerals, XP, weapon unlocks, overclocks...

cobalt depot
#

I wonder if the brightness issue and pop-ups will get fixed soon do you still notice it on Windows Mako? I had an especially bad game yesterday on PE for the first time in forever I couldn't figure out what my teammates were trying to show me. It was an aquarq like 100m away that didn't render so it just showed Common Rock. I was the scout so they were all waiting for me it felt pretty bad lol

rotund dagger
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I haven't noticed it too much, but I'm pretty sure the pop-in is still there. I've been in pretty small caves and a bit distracted with conversations, so it's not been the best circumstances to notice things

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Oh, yeah, you can't mark aquarq directly unless it's dug out, so it would just look like people are marking a blank wall... That wouldn't be great

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Bosco has code to know when you're marking an aquarq and not just a random bit of wall... seems like that could potentially be added to the laser pointer...

cobalt depot
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Someone made that remark a while ago I m starting to think maybe it's intended because they definitely have a way to tell what's behind

rotund dagger
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It wouldn't even have to say specifically "aquarq." It could just mark it as "resource node" or something

obtuse fiber
#

RIP my computer is bottle necked badly

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stupid me i figured it out my RAM was not the problem i checked on bottle neck calculator and it said my GPU is bottle necking on 4K at 13.4%

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AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (Clock speed at 100%) with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER (Clock speed at 100%) x1 will produce 13.4% of GPU bottleneck on 2160p/4K resolution. Everything over 10% is considered as bottleneck.

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time to upgrade my video card next year

rotund dagger
#

Yeah, as long as you have enough RAM for what you're doing, at 4k resolution your graphics card will be the bottleneck in all but the most CPU-heavy games

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This would still be the case if you had a 30-series

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4k is just a whole lot of pixels to compute data for

unreal radish
#

So there's a lot of wrong with that.
First, you're always going to have a bottleneck. It's next to impossible to build a consumer grade PC with all parts performing equally at all times.
Second, performance will vary a lot with the cooling solution utilized for all individual components including the PC case itself.
Third, power delivery can cause issues or improve performance. This can be broken down into the quality of the PSU, your motherboard, the quality of the BIOS on your motherboard, and the quality of the motherboard housing your GPU chip.

You can mitigate bottlenecks by choosing parts that have been tested together thoroughly. I personally hate using aggregate data from users, most people don't know what they're doing and it's fairly easy on windows to have programs or services running which can reduce performance a measurable and consistent amount.

rotund dagger
#

It really seems more and more like getting a decent Variable Refresh Rate display is the way to go. As long as it has a wide VRR range, it kinda doesn't matter much what your fps is unless you're playing competitive games at the highest level, as the monitor will make whatever fps look decent (obviously if the fps is low enough that may make the game feel worse to play, but anything over 30fps will mostly feel okay, but everyone has their own preferences for performance and visuals)

loud canyon
#

anyone down to play'

obtuse fiber
#

@unreal radish @rotund dagger heres what it recommends to make it under bottle neck

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i def would choose GPU number 2 since its cheaper aka RTX 3080

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RTX 3090 is so high in price even at MSRP

loud canyon
#

i run my game at 1080p

obtuse fiber
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unless a youtube streamer gives one to me lol

loud canyon
#

i no need 4k

obtuse fiber
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4K is my limit im not upgrading to 8K at all as ill be dead before it reaches main stream lol

rotund dagger
#

At this point, if you can't find any gpus at MSRP, I would keep waiting. The current prices are ridiculous. The 40-series may be out (and likely just as unavailable) before things return to some semblance of normal...

obtuse fiber
#

unless everyone can convince Jacob to give me an RTX 3090 and ill leave the server forever to never come back at all not even to report bugs

rotund dagger
#

A 2070 is not a bad card, at least compared to myself and a lot of other folks, haha. But 4k with above 30fps is likely going to be beyond its limits for a fair few games unless you dial back a lot of the bells and whistles

obtuse fiber
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i can play red dead online in 4K at over 60 FPS but thats only because of DLSS

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it made the game nicer and run better

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not alot of games support DLSS

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DRG at 4K runs anywhere from 15 FPS to 245 FPS

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with and without lights lol

rotund dagger
#

DLSS is really a game changer for games that support it. You can also run the new AMD's FSR (their version of DLSS) on an Nvidia card, from what I understand, but it's even newer and even fewer games support that so far

obtuse fiber
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i play icarus every 2 weeks for its beta and nvidia DLSS sucks instant crash when turned on and its AMD version is a little better but not perfect and that game is a nightmare for PC requirements

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MINIMUM:
OS: Windows 10 (64-bit versions)
Processor: Intel i5 8400
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 70 GB available space
RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows 10 (64-bit versions)
Processor: Intel i7-9700
Memory: 32 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA RTX 3060ti
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 70 GB available space

rotund dagger
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Most games at 4k with all the fun graphics options turned to their highest are going to be a nightmare for PC requirements

obtuse fiber
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it also doesnt help im doing 4K on a 55 inch TV lol

rotund dagger
#

4k is a lot of data to calculate

obtuse fiber
#

have you seen icarus gameplay in 4K

fierce dagger
#

What is this pc filth talk

obtuse fiber
#

we are talking pc filth talk of RAM and logging in

rotund dagger
fierce dagger
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Ill ram you!

rotund dagger
#

A real gentleperson would at least buy dinner first...

fierce dagger
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Could always invite you for an evening of mormon styled good times

obtuse fiber
#

thats filthy computer talk right there lol ^^^^^^

glossy echo
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Hello guys

rotund dagger
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Hey! How's things?

glossy echo
#

Good very 😀

rotund dagger
#

😃 very good!

glossy echo
#

You got it

obtuse fiber
#

wow theres alot of computer terms that sound dirty lol

glossy echo
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Hahah ok

obtuse fiber
glossy echo
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Uhh I’m not sure what this is

obtuse fiber
#

FISK said What is this pc filth talk and we were talking about video cards and 4K and it reminded me of a family guy episode with filty computer terms lol @glossy echo

glossy echo
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Perhaps 🤔

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lol I miss family guy show

obtuse fiber
#

I’m not sure if it’s still in Microsoft store but there was an app that you search for a shows season and episode and play it in app

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AKA torrent like player just click a show episode and it would play

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It was called cartoon unlimited pro and I guess it was removed from store

glossy echo
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Well good night or morning whatever you decide

rotund dagger
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Good night!

glossy echo
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Yep

celest schooner
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cough

obtuse fiber
#

How many nicknames r u going to have lol

celest schooner
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I dunno, I originally promised to change it for Halloween but it keeps mutating.

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I’m like one of those stuffed animals from Build-A-Bear Workshop.

obtuse fiber
#

It’s going to be hard to choose between update 35 and update 5 in November for DRG and satisfactory to play

celest schooner
#

DRG > Satisfactory

rotund dagger
#

DRG is excellent; Satisfactory is... well... satisfactory...

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But I say "why choose?" Just play them both at the same time

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Fire up a liquid morkite mission and build pipelines while you build pipelines

timid dome
#

Is there any way to Transfer your xbox progress to steam without any issues

stuck nimbus
#

Yes you can however I’m pretty sure it’s complicated

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If you look up a YouTube video there should be a guide

celest schooner
#

There’s pinned messages about it in this channel

onyx mist
#

@rotund dagger Windows Store problem from yesterday just got solved in that at least I can install the game again. But it was super frustrating, I tried all known fixes, but in the end only upgrading to Windows 11 worked which updated the app updater app X) Now I'm curious if this also solves the connectivity problem

unreal radish
#

but in the end only upgrading to Windows 11 worked
I'm sorry for your loss

rotund dagger
#

But that's an alternative to Windows 11

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It just might be more disruptive

onyx mist
#

So nice that DRG is so small with my crappy 10MBit

rotund dagger
#

Have you had a chance to try it out yet?

onyx mist
#

Still downloading...

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I've already created a Flax for my friends to play in an hour, so I am optimistic 🙂

rotund dagger
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Fingers crossed!

onyx mist
#

It does not work, but now I get a Windows popup telling me that the game can't connect to the internet and asks if I want to play offline. So that at least confirms my suspicion 👀

rotund dagger
#

Well, at least that's an improvement with Windows 11...

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A bummer though. Hopefully fixing the networking nonsense does the trick!

shadow veldt
#

Honestly few things annoy me more than random dreads showing up in a map I didn't plan on them for. It was really cool the first few times but now I groan whenever it happens. Especially when it happens before you even have enough time for a resupply. Had people join and leave in the middle of of it too which is always wild.

obtuse fiber
lethal quartz
shadow veldt
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TBH, I don't feel like the jump from 4 to 5 with dreads is as bad as the jump from 3 to 4. I think at 4 dreads can nearly one-shot you anyway, so going from instant death to still instant death - you're pretty used to it.

onyx mist
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Thanks @obtuse fiber

obtuse fiber
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no problem

shadow veldt
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I'm mainly just whining I think. I just had "one of those missions" where RNG took a dump on my team. Haha.

lethal quartz
#

oh those definitely happen, here's to the next mission being a better one!

obtuse fiber
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@onyx mist lets hope your phone has faster speeds and you dont have a data limit on hotspot

onyx mist
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No, it's limited data. I need to fix whatever my router or firewalls are doing now

obtuse fiber
#

@onyx mist are you on a VPN

onyx mist
#

No

obtuse fiber
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ok i know sometimes VPNs dont play nice lol

onyx mist
#

Indeed. I also tried to turn off the windows firewall altogether. I think it could be a random router update which I never got informed about

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But since it works on the phone, it can only be the router or LAN settings for that ethernet adapter.

obtuse fiber
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Gotta love Technology lol

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it might seem kinda stupid but dont forget to update your network card @onyx mist

onyx mist
#

You mean the network driver? That's done already.

obtuse fiber
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yeah lol i just woke up about 30 or so mins ago i cant remember lol

uncut plover
#

@obtuse fiber are they going to add mods to Windows in the near future? Is there a date or confirmed progress?

obtuse fiber
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Nope I’m trying to let developers know by changing my name to that to show them there’s people on windows build that want mod support and I know someone else in here changed their name to have windows mod support on it also. @uncut plover

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I’m hoping some or a lot of people change name to show developers that mod support is really wanted on windows build

uncut plover
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I want to chant this to the heavens. I WANT MODS ON WINDOWS

DONT PENILIZE PEOPLE FOR PLAYING THE CROSSPLAY VERSION

LIKE bro
I love this game and play it with my xbox friends. I would suck the devs off to have mods.

But no. Steam this steam that. Why dosent steam have crossplay? Wtf???

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WE WANT MOD SUPPORT
WE WANT MOD SUPPORT
WE WANT MOD SUPPORT
WE WANT MOD SUPPORT

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@peak dock

unreal radish
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Pedro got pinged, take a drink.

obtuse fiber
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@unreal radish only drink I have is Dr. Thunder lol

peak dock
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O hey

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it's nice to feel needed

uncut plover
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But like. Bruh unless windows/xbox is literally unable to have mods then what yall doin?

peak dock
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Even though there is nothing I can do about mod support on windows. I don't work on DRG anymore, I'm just around to help with some community stuff and help with common issues.

uncut plover
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Who should this message reach then?

celest schooner
unreal radish
peak dock
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You should just post on the suggestions channel really. The devs do read through all of those. All though I'm pretty sure that they would likely be already discussing that. I mean... Ghost Ship is known for caring about the community in general

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It would be weird if they didn't thought about mods for other versions. It might just be harder to achieve.

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Windows Store and XBox aren't known for being easy platforms to work with.

uncut plover
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I understant i might be harder becuase you gotta deal with xbox. But i know some other games that use Github for mods

peak dock
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But that is just what I think, again, I'm not directly involved with the project anymore, so I wouldn't know for sure.

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Oh yeah, for sure, I imagine it is possible, just way harder to do it.

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and making it for Steam was already pretty challenging

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or so I've heard

uncut plover
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Im not a coder nor do i know anything about game making. And i know steam have built in support for community sharing.
I know they did it for steam. And im just sad that because ive chosen to play on windows build so i can play with friends and that excluded me from the amazing life changing mod support. It really hits hard. I love this game and i would throw money at the devs just for making this game so great

But missing out on mods because i play with friends really hurts

peak dock
peak dock
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That was a long time ago. God, I'm old.

celest schooner
# peak dock I love that there is a Pedro drinking game

Pedro gets pinged? Take a drink from a beer

Pedro gets pinged and responds? Take 2 drinks from a beer

Pedro gets pinged and doesn’t respond? Take 3 drinks

Pedro gets pinged and pinger gets dunced? Gulp a bottle down

Pedro gets pinged by a reply? Gulp 2 bottles down

peak dock
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In any case, I'm pretty sure you are not the only one asking for mods on windows store/xbox version. And I would be surprised if they are not at least looking into what that would look like.

uncut plover
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Whole case

celest schooner
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Pedro pings himself or you? Drink 2 cases down

unreal radish
peak dock
celest schooner
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Oh shit

uncut plover
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😂😂😂😂

peak dock
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👀

celest schooner
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Brb, gotta buy 4 cases of beer.

uncut plover
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Fuck man i got work in the morning

peak dock
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I shouldn't incentive this kind of behavior, but on the other hand it's Friday

celest schooner
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Oh crap, he pinged me twice, that’s actually 6 cases!

uncut plover
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Buddy ill meet you in the ER

celest schooner
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No wait, 3 Lambent pings! That’s a lotta beer

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I’m not actually gonna do it but it be funny if I did lol

uncut plover
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lol

silk coral
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He gone

lethal quartz
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love how quick these moderators are!

celest schooner
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Dammit, Missed a scam extermination

glossy echo
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I’m trying to find info on update 35 for Xbox

obtuse fiber
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@glossy echo november 18th release date

glossy echo
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Yeah I have a bad time remembering 🤔

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Thank you

rotund dagger
lofty orchid
# rotund dagger Not only is it a matter of the challenge or time it would take to implement mods...

Not necessarily, based off what I know about Microsoft they do not support mods on any game but so long as it is 100% managed by the game developer they have nothing strictly against it based off what I know about Bethesda because the mods are basically unlimited for fallout 4. So morning for Xbox Microsoft store could be done, but the devs would have to develop an entire system in-house from scratch (and possibly get approval from Microsoft although I don't think that would be cool hard given the state of the fallout games) and that would take a very long time cuz they would have to develop a way to make the mods which would be PC only, develop the interface for how you select the mods, and have to figure out how load orders and whatnot are managed and probably a couple other things that I'm just not aware of. Whereas with what I know about Steam workshop it already has most of that covered and what isn't covered is well quite frankly it's quite easy to access the codes of Steam games where is it's basically impossible to easily modify James purchased on Microsoft store and let's not talk about games on Xbox

rotund dagger
# lofty orchid Not necessarily, based off what I know about Microsoft they do not support mods ...

In the case of Bethesda, my understanding is Bethesda basically assumes responsibility for the mods and have verified that they are sufficiently limited in scope such that they cannot cause issues.

Basically, to do what Bethesda has done, GSG would have to build a modding system as you mentioned and then either make the mods themselves, or test, verify, and publish mods others have made in order to make sure there are not problems. So a ton of work just to get the system in place, and then a ton of work to make the mods/verify the mods, and then at every update they'd have to check all the mods again to make sure they still work and still do not cause issues

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There are a lot of good reasons to play games on a console, but consoles have seldom been an open enough platform for mods to work well. It's just the nature of the consoles and the console makers. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo want to sell you a box and games that are verified to work and not break your system, and letting people add mods without oversight would make that goal much harder if not impossible. Bethesda was big enough to convince Microsoft to give them a shot, but even then the mods were pretty limited in focus from what I recall

obtuse fiber
# lofty orchid Not necessarily, based off what I know about Microsoft they do not support mods ...

Mods—while fun—aren’t official Xbox products. When using mods, consider these factors:
You mod at your own risk—the stability and security of your Windows 10 device might be affected
Disabling mods for a game (i.e. disallowing them completely) requires uninstalling and reinstalling the game
Achievements and other Xbox Live features may be unavailable
Your Xbox Live and device data may be accessed by the mod’s creator. Your personal data may also be exposed.
Future game updates may not be compatible with the installed mods
Accessibility features may not work properly
Mod content isn’t rated by the ESRB or other boards and may not be appropriate for every age
Mods are not owned, operated, or tested by Microsoft. Microsoft is not responsible for game mods or actions taken by mods installed on your device.

obtuse fiber
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Microsoft started supporting mods in Microsoft store in June 2020

rotund dagger
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Boiler-plate disclaimer to make it clear that Microsoft assumes no responsibility if a person decides to use mods. Saying "were not responsible for mods on your Windows 10 PC" is very different from saying "sure, anyone can put mods on our Xbox consoles"

uncut plover
rotund dagger
# uncut plover im referring to snowrunner, thats a game that xbox/windowes that has mod support

Sure, and taking a look at the mod.io guide for Snowrunner (https://snowrunner.mod.io/guides/snowrunner-console-launch-faqs-support-guide) confirms what I've suspected:

"Mods on consoles must be pre-approved before appearing in the game - and as such, there is a limited subset of mods on consoles. Due to the rules imposed by console platforms, some mods are not suitable for consoles and are not available. More mods are slowly being added to consoles, as they must be manually pre-approved by the developer/console platforms. More will slowly appear over the days and weeks."

"Most of the mods on the website are currently PC only..."

"All mods when they are updated require re-approval and will be unavailable while this process happens. Also, some mods have found to have issues and may be removed temporarily as they are reviewed by the [developer]."

Pretty much exactly what I've been saying: it's not impossible but it's not straightforward. GSG would have to either make the mods themselves and get them verified, or get community-made mods verified before they'd be available on console. They'd likely have to do this every time the game is updated, and, as the guide mentions, every time a mod is updated it would need to be reverified as well. This is a ton of work! And it would only be for the limited amount of mods that would even be available on console: "Due to the rules imposed by console platforms, some mods are not suitable for consoles and are not available."

Any mods not available on console but available on PC could potentially cause issues with crossplay. So if you want to play with friends and mods, it'd be with a limited variety of (presumably mostly cosmetic) mods...

unreal radish
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It's too much work for GSG. There's already a limit on throughput with reviewing new mods. Imagine having to re-review every single updated one.

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Frankly though you as consumers should find Microsofts position on that unacceptable. It's your console. You should be able to do whatever you want on it.

tropic bone
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hey guys; if i play on steam already and have a series x, can I continue to level up the same character on that?

rotund dagger
# tropic bone hey guys; if i play on steam already and have a series x, can I continue to leve...

Yes, you should be able to copy your save file from Steam to the Microsoft Store version. From there you can load up the Microsoft Store version, sync an Xbox cloud save, and then load up the game (and the cloud save) on your Series X. You would have to do this process in reverse to take progress made on your Series X back into the Steam version, and repeat it every time you want to move your progress between versions

rotund dagger
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No problem at all!

rotund dagger
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Ultimately, I come down on the side of "let me do what I want with what I bought," but I do see the appeal of not being able to break something

tropic bone
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i enjoy playing on both honestly; a lot of it has to do with who i can play with friend wise

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on console at least I can be sure no one is walling me or using aimbot

rotund dagger
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Absolutely! And once you allow anything on a console, you make it a lot harder to stop people from cheating

tropic bone
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great point; the convenience factor of them is also why, once the tech is there, cloud gaming will start to take over imo

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MOST people do not want to deal with hardware; at all

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the PC tinkerers are the minority

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i'm one of them but it just is what it is. plus cloud gaming also allows for amazing anti cheat software

rotund dagger
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I think you're right about the mass appeal of cloud gaming. If/when the tech gets there, it has so much potential. Fast-paced competitive stuff might be a ways off still, but single-player games that down require lightning fast reactions seem to already be mostly there

tropic bone
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Google just jumped the gun

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they've all but cut funding to stadia lol

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when they closed the in house dev studio, i knew it was a wrap

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they also did a PISS poor marketing job

rotund dagger
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They've given up on making anything for it themselves, but they've turned it into a service for others to use

tropic bone
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yeah, they're renting out the servers essentially right

rotund dagger
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I think AT&T is using it to give exclusive access to a game as a perk for their cell phone subscribers, but I forget which game

tropic bone
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probably more complicated than that tho i gather?

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ah interesting

rotund dagger
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It's more than just hosting a game, yeah

tropic bone
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at&t should focus on being able to make a fucking phone call first

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but that's just my opinion

rotund dagger
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They did something kinda wild with Stadia, they made it using Linux, which meant most games would have to be rebuilt or built from the ground up for Linux to even work on Stadia

tropic bone
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whoah. did not know that

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was their a technical reason on their end to do this?

rotund dagger
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It made so much for work devs who already had a game and wanted to get it on Stadia

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Presumably, but I don't recall the specifics

tropic bone
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i've used both microsoft's and sony's test cloud

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they work.....kind of; but only viable for single player games and you need an ethernet with a great plan

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the input delay is hilariously bad for multiplayer

rotund dagger
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Yeah, anything fast-paced and/or competitive seems like it's not there yet (and might be very, very hard to get there anytime soon, thanks physics!)

tropic bone
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as someone who games at 1600dpi for pretty much the pseudo effect of it being 5ms faster, it bothered me but lol

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this is for high level FPS comp tho

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but again that's such a small minority of gamers that cloud services don't ever need to cater to that lol

unreal radish
# rotund dagger People buy locked down Apple products because they want something that's easy to...

The two are not mutually exclusive. It is entirely possible to have a fantastic out of the box experience while retaining fine granular control for power users. Android does that exceptionally well. Most people aren't going to install a second app store or install a different OS than the one that came with their phone, but the option exists on many of those devices. Better user experience is used as an excuse to lock down hardware for business purposes (using the same hardware to benefit in another market instead of buying a new product).

unreal radish
# tropic bone was their a technical reason on their end to do this?

Because the world runs on Linux. If you're using a cloud service odds are very good it's running on linux. The reason for that choice is not only is the software free or a one time payment, which cuts down significantly on cost, the hardware is just utilized way more efficiently. Task scheduling is just flat out better compared to a windows server or windows in general. Resource utilization for the OS is, in many cases, significantly lower. It just makes better sense for a server environment.

tropic bone
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it does create a fuckton of extra work (and possibly even forced new positions?) at studios though it seems right?

unreal radish
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It can depending on how the game was originally built. UE4 and Unity 5 both support the Vulkan API and Linux out of the box. The big thing is using Vulkan or OpenGL.

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If the game is built specifically to take advantage of quirks in Windows, like adobe products do, then it'll be a nightmare to port.

rotund dagger
# unreal radish The two are not mutually exclusive. It is entirely possible to have a fantastic ...

Once you open things up to stuff beyond your control, you open things up to problems you can't fix easily. As mentioned with regards to cheating on consoles, you're traditionally less likely to run into people using aimbots on console. Some people actually do prefer that the system is locked down. If you're only interested in single-player or co-op multiplayer experiences, that is probably a less compelling argument

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Sure there's business reasons, but with Apple your hardware just works or you go to them and they fix it because they know they can. With Android, you're on your own, for better and for worse. Personally, I prefer the options, but I know plenty of folks just want it to work and to know they don't have to fix it themselves if it doesn't work

boreal solstice
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Can you use text chat on Xbox version? And if so, what hotkey starts it?

unreal radish
# rotund dagger Sure there's business reasons, but with Apple your hardware just works or you go...

That's also unacceptable. The company that sold you the product should not be the only one capable of fixing it. For android, windows, linux, and to an extent macos as long as you don't do something you don't understand then you aren't going to break it. And if you do break it, it's usually an easy fix (unless you're on windows then you're just told to reinstall). But having the option to do whatever you want should always be there. If anything it's a lack of user education. I thought user education would get better when I looked at it 15 years ago. It didn't, and it's starting to bite everyone in the ass.

rotund dagger
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I agree, but there's a lot of people who don't want to have to learn, they just want things to work. And there's not much you can do about that when they'll always buy the products that don't require learning. And I do get the appeal, even if those products aren't for me

rotund dagger
boreal solstice
rotund dagger
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You're welcome!

glossy echo
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Hello lads

tardy zenith
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need 2 message me ill invite you you to party

tropic bone
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will there ever be any cross play between Steam and Microsoft?

rotund dagger
# tropic bone will there ever be any cross play between Steam and Microsoft?

Nothing has been announced, and it would require a significant amount of time and effort as there is no easy way to make the two platforms communicate with each other. Other games have implemented a friend code or some other similar system to connect folks across platforms, as Microsoft and Steam are not yet directly compatible with each other and it's uncertain if and when they ever might be. And that's only the technical hurdle.

Development of new updates would be affected as the Microsoft versions would have to be ready at the same time as the Steam version, and if any bugs or changes are needed after an update the patches would take longer to roll out to all platforms as well, potentially leaving all versions with a game-breaking bug for the amount of time it takes to make, test, and get Microsoft certification for all versions.

Never say never, but at this time there are some significant reasons why it would not be easy or even practical

tropic bone
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couldn't there be a platform like shift? where you can play with people on different consoles and on pc like on borderlands? its not very practical built when people buy a game and find out they cant play with their friends on Microsoft they start asking for their money back. there's lots of wasted potential in this game that they just started putting new content after a very very long time of waiting.

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its just wasted customers. lots of people want the game but choose not to buy it because they cant actually play with their friends.

slim dirge
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If all your friends are on the microsoft platform then surely you just buy the game there, seems like you're just seeing this as an issue when it doesn't need to be.
It's like buying a game on playstation and being annoyed there isn't cross-play with xbox

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Yes it would be great if there was complete cross platform play, but there isn't right now. You have to remember that this is an indie dev with a limited team, funds and dev time. This isn't gearbox with their literal hundreds of employees who can afford to throw a team or two on making up some cross-platform enabling system.

tropic bone
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i am not having this issue i am just saying theres lots of wasted potential

slim dirge
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If the choice is cross play with the microsoft crowd or more content, I'm choosing the content every time.

tropic bone
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thats true. there needs to be more content

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it desperately needs more content

obtuse fiber
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Anybody wanna play DRG now or should I just go play something else like DRG update 35

lean rock
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pve games like drg are great for crossing

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I can be patient for it, it would take time and effort, but it certainly can be done

rotund dagger
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First, yes, I agree crossplay is nice. However, it's also a very modern feature, relatively speaking, and still only offered by a small number of games. I'm always surprised when a title has crossplay, even though more and more do all the time (although some of those are only Xbox to Windows, like DRG).

I'm aware other games have done it. I'm also aware of how they've done it. DRG would have to do something similar as Steam and Microsoft are otherwise incompatible.

And as I said, it would significantly impact development. It would make the game harder to develop and take longer to get out updates. That's just the reality of the situation. It doesn't matter what size the team, any team working on a crossplay game will have to deal with this. All versions must update the same day to make everything continue being crossplay. Because of this, each content update and each hotfix patch would take longer to develop and release.

Currently, updates are built first for Steam. They often get tested in the beta branch feature of Steam before the full release, and then the updates usually get a few patches to fix any bugs/balance issues that didn't come up in the internal testing and beta testing. These patches can come as fast and as often as needed on Steam; it's possible for the devs to identify a bug, fix it, and release a patch in just minutes.

However, on Xbox that isn't the case. Microsoft requires every update and hotfix patch to get certified before it gets released. That means a hotfix patch will always take whatever time needed to identify and fix the bug, plus at least a few hours to days for certification. And that is for every update and patch.

Steam often gets a few patches after an update, and gets them as quick as they can be ready. With full crossplay, each of those patches would be subject to the certification process, and subsequently delayed by hours to days. It would require a total shift in how the devs are able to develop DRG

rotund dagger
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Oh, and also, now that mods have been introduced on Steam, the Steam version is significantly different. Arguably it was already somewhat different given the discord integration and the Unions, but mod support is a significant, functionality difference.

That would mean the Microsoft versions would have to get mod support to be in parity with Steam. And since certain mods would likely not be allowed on Xbox (Microsoft has restrictions for the types of mods, and all mods must get certified), mod support for everything, Steam included, would have to be reduced to just those allowed on Xbox or crossplay would be broken for Xbox users...

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Alternatively, they could not add mod support to the Microsoft versions, and then you can only crossplay with Steam folks who are running unmodded missions. Either way, things get significantly more complicated in any Steam crossplay scenario, and that means development gets more difficult and everything takes longer

tropic bone
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okay i cannot for the fucking life of me get this game to install using the xbox pc game app

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just out right refuses to install via this app

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steam' seamless. xbox? under 15 mins

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i've been trouble shooting this for an hour

rotund dagger
tropic bone
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will that still allow me to copy my progress back and forth?

rotund dagger
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Yep, it's it's same thing, but the Xbox app is... not great...

tropic bone
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thank you

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yeah, you'd think that this is well...not the same god damn company whose OS i'm using to run it

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lol

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oh my god. how do i run the store with admin access now?

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I can't find the location

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do i have to actually use powershell

rotund dagger
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Right-click and "Run as administrator" would be for most things

tropic bone
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right, i cannot find where the .exe actually is though

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is the issue

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everything is just a link to launch it

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it's specifically DRG

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it's installing AOE just fine

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solitaire as well

rotund dagger
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And I just checked, it looks like the run as admin is not an option on the store, which I'm not surprised about

tropic bone
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this is weird

rotund dagger
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Sometimes things do install even though it looks like they didn't

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Even the Microsoft Store app is a bit junky at times

tropic bone
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it won't even prep the install; it just says "something unexpected happened"

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but only for DRG. is it sensing i have it installed on steam already or something?

rotund dagger
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I don't believe so. They are quite different

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I have both installed without issue

tropic bone
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yeah, it won't go past 0% for "preparing"

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tried different hard drive partitions

rotund dagger
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Have you tried rebooting yet? That has gotten the Store working for me when I've had issues with installs/updates

tropic bone
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didn't work 😦

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finally got it

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Launch powershell as an administrator and enter “get-appxpackage Microsoft.GamingServices | remove-AppxPackage -allusers”

  • In the same powershell window, enter “start ms-windows-store://pdp/?productid=9MWPM2CQNLHN”
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for anyone else struggling

rotund dagger
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I copied it just in case. Thank you!

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And I'm glad it's working!

tropic bone
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cheers man thanks for your help

rotund dagger
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Of course! I was moral support at most, haha, but I'm glad to help

cobalt depot
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I just realised an issue people might be having when they say nothing works is they might be on the Insider version? There's a few new players now I ve seen with Insider on their recently played

obtuse fiber
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i thought the devs removed insider DRG

twin seal
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Yo guys, anyone can squad up and help me out with some missions? Need to finish up an assignment

lean rock
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i too love new content, but if it meant i had to wait two weeks more for all new updates so that I could be spending time with steam friends, yes I'd take that every time

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i hope these replies dont come across as argumentative towards you StoicMako, i agree that it would take a lot of extra time and effort, i just feel it'd be worth it

obtuse fiber
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I just found a mission breaking bug in experimental branch and current build of DRG on steam and Microsoft versions

unreal radish
cobalt depot
rotund dagger
# lean rock i hope these replies dont come across as argumentative towards you StoicMako, i ...

No, not argumentative at all! One thing I might say is you might be okay with longer dev times (and times likely be more than just about two weeks as all of the testing would have to be done in house or in Steam experimental and have to be very very right because you can't quickly fix things I've they go very very wrong due to the Microsoft certification process), but Steam users might not appreciate the arbitrary delay holding back their version just to make sure crossplay works. Especially if they don't use crossplay themselves.

Also, as I mentioned, it would mean the devs have to completely change how they develop updates. They would lose the agility and rapid response time they get from putting out the Steam version first. Right now, if they want they can release something on Steam just to see how it works for the wider audience and quickly tweak and iterate as needed. That flexibility goes away the second Steam has to keep parity with the Microsoft versions. Losing that flexibility would change planning and development. It's not the only issue though.

Cave generation is more complex on the Steam version. It may be only a little different, but in order to maintain parity the Steam version would have to use the Microsoft version cave generation. One could argue that this would be a downgrade for the Steam version, but I'm not sure how significant the differences are in practice.

So not only would Steam crossplay be a ton more work for a small team, it would also (arguably) negatively impact the Steam version for a feature that some players may never use.

For the record, I would love Steam crossplay. I'm all for anything that let's more people enjoy a game and game with friends. However, I think there are valid reasons why it's not only technically challenging, but also resource-intensive and detrimental to the flexible development environment to the point where it's not an easy decision to make

lean rock
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I am for friends

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i continue to try and make new ones on drg xbox, and will continue to, but many friends are in steam

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T . T

obtuse fiber
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anybody need help in DRG

sleek vapor
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need help am new lmao

gleaming pebble
sleek vapor
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i mean im down but i prefer not to play with someone that is gonna have to hard carry me

gleaming pebble
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ohh okay

sleek vapor
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so like if ur not level say 10 or above we should be ok

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but otherwise it may be kinda boring for me

tropic bone
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I had an amazing mission with some randoms up until we all died to an omen and as soon as everyone went down the host ended the session even though I had iron will

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We found a bittergem, compressed gold, mineral mania, and yeah the omen

gleaming pebble
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I think I’m a 6

tropic bone
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All gone

gleaming pebble
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ahh I don’t know how to get on with randoms or anything ;-;

obtuse fiber
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just a fair warning i can help new players but my level is pretty high since i know people dont like high level players joining them

fierce dagger
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Thats wierd

obtuse fiber
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not really some people that buy the game wanna enjoy it without high level players quickly beating a level, greenbeards wanna learn as they play

rotund dagger
# sleek vapor i mean im down but i prefer not to play with someone that is gonna have to hard ...

Seeing as how a higher level player can deactivate perks and weapon/tool mods, a high level player can handicap themselves so they're at a similar equipment and perk level as a newer player. That can balance the difficulty somewhat. Then, the only thing an experienced player would have that a newer player wouldn't have is tips and tricks they've learned from playing. Just something to keep in mind

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And as an experienced player, it can even be fun to challenge yourself by deactivating perks/mods

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That's the neat thing about the systems the devs have built for DRG: you can really customize the experience and make it harder or easier in a lot of different ways to fit your mood and preference

shrewd thistle
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Guys, I bought support pack but not receiving it in game. I'm playing with XGP. Do I have to buy the game itself?

fierce dagger
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No dlc should work regardless

fierce dagger
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Oooh first game on and a Bittergem straight away

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90%

obtuse fiber
obtuse fiber
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Interesting a developer is playing steamvr I wonder if DRG is already VR

ebon karma
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Is there a way to Text talk in Game for Xbox?

fierce dagger
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Plug in a keyboard @ebon karma

obsidian elm
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Whenever I join noobs I carry the second objective lol

runic sapphire
twin seal
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Sure thing man

runic sapphire
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Cool well go ahead and Friend me on Xbox and I'll ping you here when I'm getting on proper rocknstone

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Username is same as here

glossy echo
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Hey guys Halloween event is now done??

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I’m guessing

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Yep

cobalt depot
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Yea it's over

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If devs see this we still have the brightness and pop in issues on old gen I can record more if needed

glossy echo
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Same here

runic sapphire
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@twin seal I'll be on now for a bit dude!

twin seal
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Yikes, talk about bad timing lol, I'm eating rn too

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Food just arrived lmao

runic sapphire
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No hassle man I'll catch you out there rocknstone

twin seal
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Yeye

twin seal
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Alright my bad dog, I'm good now

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@runic sapphire

runic sapphire
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Let's get it engiapproves

vernal wigeon
cobalt depot
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Gravity well I think it's called? It was teased before the new biomes but turns out they only spawn on escort I ve only seen one since the update too

vernal wigeon
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That would explain it since I only play escort if an assignment forces me too haha.

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(That is after I played hundreds of them to statistically prove that they needed to double the baseline xp of escorts and then they didn't listen and gave it an insulting buff).

tropic bone
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is anybody willing to help a man out on his first deep dive?

obtuse fiber
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@vernal wigeon how did you get that FPS counter to work mine just says N/A

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Never mind nvidia was being dumb lol

vernal wigeon
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haha yea not a clue I just accidently hit the buttons to make it appear before I did that capture

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@tropic bone still trying to do your DD? I am happy to help

tropic bone
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yup I’m just sitting in the spacerig rn

obtuse fiber
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Please sign my petition to have bosco be able to be petted

rotund dagger
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Bosco is a hardworking member of your team. Would you pet a fellow dwarf?

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Wait, don't answer that...

celest schooner
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I mean, Hell no!

obtuse fiber
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I’d pet a dwarf

glossy echo
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Strange idea

obtuse fiber
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Not really petting bosco should already be in the game

glossy echo
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Oh

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I’m probably gonna be waiting for update 35 see yah later

tardy zenith
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LFG message me if you want me to join

obtuse fiber
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Question how does the incursion pass work for Microsoft version. Will we get a longer time period by 1-2 extra weeks until it ends.

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Or will we lose time since steam gets updates first

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And yes 1-2 weeks in a pass that has 100 levels does make a difference

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This is just me thinking but if seasons aka updates are going to take 4-5 months does that mean crossplay with steam could happen since in my opinion 4-5 months seems like a perfect time period to test for both platforms

magic pewter
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Since you get season 2 1-2 extra weeks later, then it wont matter.

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And no Steam crossplay.

obtuse fiber
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Ok so we get longer time in each season by 1-2 weeks while waiting for each seasons update

magic pewter
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That's what currently makes sense, yes.

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either way, the rewards stay in the game, so nothing is lost

obtuse fiber
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Dang it I would have thought steam crossplay since each pass will take 4-5 months but then steam would need a rework

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I wish DRG would get steams cave gen and put on store page. Performance won’t be good on OG Xbox like they did for cyberpunk 2077

pliant cloak
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wont the season only start after the win/xbox build gets the update?

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i thought i heard something like that some time ago

obtuse fiber
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from what i understand is steam and microsoft both have same season but win/xbox will last 1-2 weeks longer since steam is the lab rat for bug testing lol

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xbox/win wont start season until nov 18th

magic pewter
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Seasons are replacing the updates, so it's logical to assume that they will run end-to-end.

pliant cloak
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i mean like

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steam gets the update, but you cant get points towards the season pass thingy until win/xbox gets their update

tropic bone
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Hi I have a possible question to mod the game to the windows store version of the game?

pliant cloak
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i dont think mods are supported on win/xbox

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but im not sure, since im not on this platform

magic pewter
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They're not supported through the official mod support. Might be in the future.
You might be able to mod the old fashion way.

glossy echo
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Hey guys

queen girder
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How do I not have this?

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I've completed hundreds of missions and have almost 300 hours played

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I've also reset my save file (from the save menu) so technically I've done my first mission twice

flat crest
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Hmm i’m not sure i had a bug with the gold chunks achievement not counting properly a while back but it sorted itself out

magic pewter
queen girder
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Yes

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I have not played it on Xbox

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I also do not have the one where you complete 100 missions but do have the one that requires 100 solo missions so it's kinda weird

sly stone
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The milestone achievements have been buggy since like forever

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For a while they were completable as long as you could do the whole thing in a single update, but I'm not sure if even that is true anymore

magic pewter
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We’ve figured out why.

obtuse fiber
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I know I fixed one achievement that wouldn’t unlock for me on astroneer by playing it on my Xbox. Maybe try playing it on both Xbox and then computer

magic pewter
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I think.

light niche
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No new achievements coming our way Jacob?

flat crest
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sus

obsidian elm
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Jacob

obtuse fiber
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if anybody needs any help just ping me as ill be on satisfactory getting ready for update 5

celest schooner
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sneeze

obtuse fiber
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cover your dwarf mouth when you sneeze

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quick fun little poll, would you like updates 1 week after steam with some bugs still in game or 2 weeks after steam but more stable

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answering is optional but it could give devs an insight into future update release schedules

rotund dagger
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The way they're doing things already is the right call. Because earlier with bugs also means stuff with bugs for longer since the Microsoft versions simply cannot be patched as frequently as the Steam version

celest schooner
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Did we forget about that time when Microsoft kept denying verification for GSG?

stark cave
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Don't remind me

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The dark ages

celest schooner
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Snehkle

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The allmighty Snehckle has returned!

stark cave
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I've always been here......watching

obtuse fiber
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remember the time bjorn submitted the wrong build and it wouldnt open at all

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anybody wanna play some jokes/pranks on randoms during gameplay

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lets vote for devs to add custom tracks to jukebox so we can add some songs from our music library to the game in the spacerig, like rockstar did with GTA 5 custom radio station on PC

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just keep cycling thru normal songs to find what music you added to the game

obtuse fiber
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you cant get rid of me lol

celest schooner
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The only bug in here is me.

obtuse fiber
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im a minecraft villager and they are bugs by annoying people

sacred stump
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LFG?

obtuse fiber
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Anybody want a look at cosmetic tree in season pass I can message you a photo or screen share to show you so I don’t spoil it in this channel

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I’ll be on update 35 for a while if anybody is interested

glossy echo
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Nvm I’m busy

obtuse fiber
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Starting tomorrow someone needs to start a 2 week countdown timer.

magic pewter
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We already have that. It’s a calendar! 😄

light niche
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Any new achievements Jacob or is that not possible rn.

flat crest
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i think i heard that if it’s a small amount of achievements they’ll wait cause of microsoft being funky about stuff

glossy echo
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I’m going back to sleep again

light niche
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I would like more stuff to grind for

sacred stump
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anyone on??

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looking to play anything, already did deep dive once.

magic pewter
rain spruce
light niche
glossy echo
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I’m getting a tattoo of the 18th of nov on my arm

obtuse fiber
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def alot of new stuff since i was testing it out and found a fun bug in it with cave generation and caretaker placement lol

obtuse fiber
light niche
obtuse fiber
proven trench
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Does xbox get the update later than steam again?

lethal quartz
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yes, November 18th

proven trench
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Oh wow

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Thank you

lethal quartz
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Not a problem

celest schooner
obtuse fiber
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nice god mode works wonders in windows 11 but the folder looks weird

obtuse fiber
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pin that ^^^^^^^^ lol

bleak prairie
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Anyone know the countdown for the new patch drop?

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Nevermind I just read the comments above... Damn

lean rock
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is there a time and time zone listed for the update on the 18th?

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wanna know when I should lurk around online in the minutes before hand

violet estuary
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Hi guys, have you seen this error installing on xbox win 10

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cant install error 0x87E00017

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I cant install DRG 😦

rotund dagger
violet estuary
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already done

rotund dagger
# lean rock is there a time and time zone listed for the update on the 18th?

There may be a more specific time closer to the 18th, but it depends. Basically, the update gets submitted to Microsoft and goes live whenever it clears the certification process. That has typically been about 4 - 6 hours after the devs submit the update to Microsoft, but it's not exactly a set time.

All that said, when everything goes smoothly, updates have gotten out to us around 12:00pm noon EST, give or take a few hours

violet estuary
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I have this issue weeks ago, only with DRG,

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already report to microsoft and they assist me remotly clean all, and force win updates

rotund dagger
violet estuary
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even tried other porfile

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ok I will try again, tks man

rotund dagger
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I know that's not terribly helpful, just regurgitating what I found from a quick search, but it's a place to start?

violet estuary
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already tried all those things, reinstalling win 10 is the only thing that didnt try yet

rotund dagger
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I am seeing a potential report that a third-party tool that reduces or removes some/all of the telemetry/data-sharing built into Windows can cause an issue with installing apps/games from the store...

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I'm not familiar with the tool discussed (SpybotAntiBeacon), and the message had to be translated from Russian, but it did seem to fix someone's issue with installing Back 4 Blood when they got that same error code

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But if you haven't messed with the Microsoft's data collection they built into Windows, you might be looking at a reinstall of Windows, yeah. But you might be able to get away with a repair install. Although at the point where something is that messed up, I kinda lean towards a clean install anyway since who knows what else is a little funky...

obtuse fiber
harsh saddle
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Will DRG get a xbox Series X/S optimization?

mental cobalt
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Anyone know when the new update will come out on xbox ?

devout hatch
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November 18

mental cobalt
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Damn

devout hatch
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Yep

mental cobalt
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and i was all excited for today, didnt realize it takes so long to make a different version

obsidian elm
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mostly because of xbox certification

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and they like to wait for a couple hot fixes on steam

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more so the cert thing

safe crane
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Ugh.... more waiting....

glossy echo
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I’m a dumpster fire

obsidian elm
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hey that means we get to wait for the lok-1 buffs

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i see this as a absolute win

charred arch
tawdry vault
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Hey guys, sorry if it's the wrong chat to ask, but I noticed that on Xbox people talk with each other on the gamechat and for the life of me I can't find the gamepad control that is bound to open the text chat in the game

flat crest
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They’re probably using the microsoft (PC) version

obtuse fiber
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There is no key bind for it you need to use a USB keyboard on Xbox

quasi meteor
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Hey guys

tawdry vault
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Oh gotcha, thanks

flat crest
quasi meteor
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Update isn't coming out on Xbox yet, right?

obtuse fiber
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This game supports mouse and keyboard on Xbox

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November 18th for update

obtuse fiber
obsidian elm
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sludge pump is fine

flat crest
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Flavour is a little off

obsidian elm
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the projectile speed is a bit slow but other than that the sludge pump is pretty good

shell bison
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Was hoping to play the new update today on Xbox but yikes, gonna be in boot camp by the time it comes out for us

obsidian elm
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i played experimental and did not have the same ammo issues i had with the lok-1

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the sludge pump looks like it has low ammo but the charge shots stay for a good amount of time

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i wasnt looking forward to it but after i played with it im most looking forward to that weapon

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the lok-1 has like no ammo so lmao

violet estuary
obtuse fiber
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hey bjorn can we get keybinds for chat on xbox like what halo wars 2 did, All you have to do is click the left-stick while holding down the right-trigger. This will instantly pull up a controller-friendly keyboard to send a team-wide message.

Clicking the right-stick while holding the right-trigger toggles a chat log on/off.

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^^^^^^^^^thats what halo wars 2 did for chat on xbox

fierce dagger
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Pressing start and select at the same time does it for ESO

spare pecan
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I’m probably gonna take a break from drg these next 2 weeks