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Just wait several months and buy halo infinite once all the bugs are patched out and it's the price of a sandwich.
Mmmmmm….Sandwiches
It’s dead quiet in here
thats the best kind of dead quiet esp with me not talking as much
In space, no one can hear you scream.
Alien, actually
I know the quote is from alien, but it reminded me of the game
Remaster one day maybe 👀
Why are you here
Why are you here
What's with the existential crises on this nice Sunday afternoon?
Why are we still here?
Im taking a nice lengthy break form drg
@tepid idol I'm playing for honor right now but me and my friend can help you when we're done
after a couple games
@uncut owl I might still be on
yeah just like 15 more minutes
k
Ok
See everyone later
@wraith compass I forgot to mention the fabulous molly one is great I’m hoping the developers contact you to add it in vanilla game
Not my mod, lol.
@supple vapor pepelaff
So u are not Obama @wraith compass
I am, but it says who it was made by, which is Arctic.
It just says Obama lol
Ok that’s weird it says by Obama but tapping on it says made by and then uploaded by which is deceiving without tapping on it first
Either way that needs to be added in game ASAP
lol
Hello
Question, is DRG only crossplatform between xboxone and windows version of DRG, or does the steam version work too?
Should be
DRG is only crossplatform between xboxone and windows version, Steam version is a stand alone.
This is highly unfortunate
Idk when the update will hit any platforms
edd anyone?
darn, I'm on my work laptop otherwise I'd be down
i havent been able to get a group together all week
i think ill try it again solo i got to the end of stage 1 last time i only failed because i got caught in arbalest fire like 3 times in a row
hive guard down one resupply down and i lost a revive to a wave and one because my shield didnt push the enemies out
twins down thank god
i know no one checks pins but im posting this to help out players
CROSS-PLAY INFO
The Xbox One / Windows 10 version from the Microsoft Store is an Xbox Play Anywhere Title. This means the following:
By buying the game from the Microsoft Store you own it on both Xbox One and Windows 10 Store (Microsoft Store).
The Game support Cross Platform Play. This means that the Xbox One and Windows 10 Store Version (Microsoft Store) are able to play together. IMPORTANT NOTE: This also means that you are NOT able to play with people, who have bought the STEAM version.
Your Progress is saved across Xbox One and Windows 10 Store version (Microsoft Store).
The Steam version does currently NOT support Cross Platform Play. This mean that you are NOT able to play with people who have bought the Xbox One/ Windows 10 Version (Microsoft Store).
i died bcz the $%#&W^#%&@ drop pod spawned in the ceiling and my zipline couldnt get me up quick enough
stage one down
dont even try it stage two is hell
EDDs are not hard if you have at least a gunner with carpet bomber and a driller @golden kite
I cant complete the deep dives to get carpet bomber thus my problem
Yeah I just haven't gotten enough weeks yet plus I switch houses to my dad's on Thursdays so I only really get every other week
As far as I know not ultimate
Heres a method to stay safe in EDDs required driller at least
i used paint to make that lol
mouse sucks when drawing in paint lol
anyone wanna play?
depends
on what
lol the art is impressive
last edd i went cryo cannon and it worked fine bunkering but the problem with this one is the dreadnaughts and the beginning of stage 2
Neuro toxin grenade is best for groups
yeah i dug into wall neurotoxined then fired cryo any time i saw a health bar
cant see the server list how can I fix this?
Make sure game is updated
Lfg to level Engineer for Promotion.
My friend can't join my game. We are both using game-pass for windows when he goes to join my game uing an invite in the xbox app it opens two games for him or he gets stuck on a infinite loading screen
nvm we figured it out had to join with the game closed and the xbox companion app
You should be able to invite or join from the Game Bar (Windows Key + G) once you are fully loaded into the space rig and can run around. If the options are grayed out, have everyone exit and relaunch the game.
That said, since it sounds like it's working: enjoy!
hi have game pass for pc. anyone up for some haz 5 missions?
im down but im a nub
Anyone on here willing to play a couple games before I hit the sack for the night?
hey guys i am still unable to make DRG work for me i tried going through solutions in pins to no avail. My drivers and windows are up to date but whenever i lauhcn game it just freezes the computer
@tender sphinx did u check to see if system clock and time zone are set to automatic
I hope everyone likes my new discord name lol
anyone wanna play some?
I would but I don’t have gamepass ultimate to play on my phone
I can’t wait until mods are officially supported but RIP windows build for mods at least the Xbox insider channel could be used for mod chats
Have you given a reinstall a whirl?
Has anyone played deep rock galactic yet
Once or twice. Seems neat
Played it when the update came out
ive played windows DRG xbox DRG, Steam DRG and Modded DRG
Combination of the good stuff 
esp the upgraded doretta mod thats the best one that should be in game normal not modded
True true
sticky turrets on doretta is great but waste not so much lol
Awesome 👏🏻
im going to play some now and have fun lol
Ha! Yeah
Had about 20 golden boys blow up in my rig lol
@wraith compass have you messed around in game code to know what might cause DX12 discoloration
No?
ok thanks
heres the bug report for the coders/QA if they need some photo/video proof, https://ghostshipgames.atlassian.net/browse/DRG-3467
if they need anymore im always around lol
happens more in windows build then steam DX12
Any word on the new pew update? I'm fairly out of the loop with work
I need a team if anyone wants to join me
Yes
Fall
what do the numbers mean when you lock onto enemies with engi's new weapon
couldnt figure it out with just the gameplay that was shown
it probably means ammo count in gun vs whats left after maybe
i thought it was amount of bullets you needed to kill the target but that didnt add up
i just saw it on a bigger screen it just adds how many bullets/targets you have selected
first time i saw it was on my phone and just now on my 55 inch tv so bigger is better lol @obsidian elm
lol
if anybody wants to play DRG ill be on soon since im playing season 4 of call of duty cold war zombies
yeah what you said doesnt really make sense either since the second wave just has a bunch of 1 and 2's
i guess we will find out
insert jason what do the numbers mean meme here
i figured out how to fix the stupid voiceline bug on salvage
if u leave the zone the lines go back to normal
@obsidian elm if u want once it hits experimental I can tell you
sure
each number is how many shots will be fired on the target.
oh cool and thanks
Anybody know what port is used in DRG to make it work. I had to open a port on call of duty to go from moderate to open.
Update looks fantastic
All I can say is there’s something so satisfying watching 30 boscos salute a dwarf
i had an idea for a gamemode/mod in which there is one dwarf and 5 mollys one of the mollys is a person who is trying to not get discovered while also trying to get the dwarf killed and the dwarf has to figure out if its just molly killing you by accident or the other player
the dwarf wins if they complete the mission or find the fake molly
person molly can do everything normal molly can even take deposits
deep rock amongus
exactly
i finally changed my desktop wallpaper from DRG insider days lol
the point is you have to try to determine if its molly being dumb or someone trying to end your life at this point in time id like to believe molly doesnt do it on purpose
i have a problem,my friend have the game in xboxapp and i i have in steam,how we can play together?
you can't, only xbox and windows store copies have crossplay
ok,thanks
Having issues playing co-op with a friend. We both have it installed on PC from the Windows Store. Every time we try to join each other, regardless of who invites who, we get this "Multiplayer Session Ended" error almost immediately and we're booted back to our own rig again. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling, running as admin, checking connection for that stupid teredo bs and made sure both our NAT types are open and server connectivity is "connected", but nothing is working. This issue has been constant for nearly two months now, so what gives?
Both of you should check your Date & Time settings in Windows and make sure "Set time automatically" and "Set time zone automatically" are both turned on.
If that doesn't do it, look through the pinned messages in this channel if you haven't already and check the connection issues stuff. It's separate from the teredo stuff, if I remember correctly.
Also, make sure everyone is fully loaded into the space rig and are able to run around before attempting to join or send/accept an invite. If the options to join/invite are grayed out, have everyone who is try to play together fully exit and relaunch the game
I'm assuming you mean that sound works when you load into the space rig and are running around, kicking barrels and selecting missions and whatnot, but then does stops working when loaded into an actual mission. Do you get any sound during the mission loading screen?
If you haven't yet, the first thing I would try is rebooting the PC. If that doesn't fix it, I'd probably try reinstalling. After that, I'm kinda out of ideas since if the sound works while running around the space rig it should work while running around in a mission. You could try selecting a different audio device in Windows, like a set of headphones instead of speakers (or vice-versa), if you haven't already, and see if the alternate audio device behaves the same?
Also, in the game settings, verify that audio settings are correct, if you haven't done so yet
Check audio settings. Make sure "Audio Output Source" is either set to "Use default device" which will use whatever your current output device is set as in Windows, or select the correct device from the list
hey, did someone had problems finding morkite in normal deep dive level 3?
we have 90 and cant find any more
If the steam and windows seeds are the same, check the ceiling on one of the rooms
I just realized I answered 5h too late
Lfg 1 -2 people
Doing some drg, gonna be in pod 17
Do you guys know how the supporter packs work when transferring saves between steam and windows 10 ed?
(as well as the other packs)
I frequently switch between steam version and win10 version and don't want to mess anything up.
You only own it on the platform you bought it on. It might stay on the characters that have it equipped, but will disappear if you change it.
ty
Or in my case I might lose the steam award helmet on windows build lol
no one asked, nibs 
They Asked
That's... not creepy at all...
how do I access the xbox pods guys? 🙂
In the #welcome-and-rules channel, you give yourself the Xbox role
thank you!
thats the power of mods lol
im trying my best to get mod support on windows build now lol
If mods is a thousand eyes staring at you, I don't want mods...
all terrain covered in wall eyes mod lets go
I'll just never throw a flare again. If I can't see it, it ain't there. Pretty sure that's how it works
while we are at it lets make a mod to have mini bugs lol
Already exists, you can change the XYZ offsets of them and other manually spawned objects.
Yeah but not natural spawns
Rock and stone, miners! I'm new to Discord and don't know if this is the appropriate channel for this, but here it goes:
I'm having issues with the Windows Store version. The game won't save my resolution settings, so I have to change it to native every time I boot it; and I'm having all sorts of troubles with audio and voice chat.
If this is not the place for this, I apologize!
@craggy pewter are you playing DRG in full screen settings or windowed full screen
Also in options under audio you can select audio output
Ayo
I tried both, neither keeps my resolution after I close the game.
Also, the audio output is "locked" to my speakers, even when I'm using my headphones. It's not greyed out, it just doesn't switch between my outputs. Tried checking and uncheking "default device". Nothing.
I tried bluetooth headphones, and I get the problem when audio goes missing as soon as the Space Rig loads, in the middle of the "wake-up lines".
I tried wireless headphones (not bluetooth) and audio works, but voice chat worked only in the Space Rig and it was gone when the mission started.
Have you tried checking sound devices. Press windows-G and check under audio what default sound settings are listed for windows itself
I apologize. I updated the Xbox Windows app last night (I was using the "stock" one) and actually forgot to check if it solved my issues.
Just checked and the audio works now, as far as I know. I'll have to try voice chat, but I think using the old version was what was causing my issues.
But the resolution reset is a bummer. Is there a workaround for that?
Do u have a nvidia video card or amd
Nvidia, with up-to-date drivers.
With a nvidia card you can go into nvidia control panel and set a certain programs screen resolution
Nice! I'll look into that!
Couldn't find where to set application-specific resolutions... Just where to create custom resolutions, but as far as I know, that's for the entire desktop -- and it's already set to native.
I’m running out of ideas that could fix it. I knew of one bug that got fixed but that was anti-aliasing but screen resolution might be another one I’ll have to look into it and mess around with it as mine is always on 2160p. Only screen resolution bug I get is when I boot up game it’s zoomed in too much and I fix it by doing alt-tab
I'll see if there are any updates, reinstall the game and see if it's still the same.
I updated everything I could find, reinstalled the game, rebooted the PC many times, but every time I boot the game, the resolution is set to 1024x768. All settings are kept, except this one. Is there a .ini file or something similar in which I could force a resolution?
The Fullscreen Screen Mode setting should automatically be the native resolution of the monitor or possibly (and maybe more likely now that I think about it) the resolution Windows is set to use for the monitor. If the Graphics settings are set to Fullscreen and keeping that setting correctly, I would expect it to be the resolution that Windows is using (which could potentially be different than the monitor's native resolution).
That said, I'm not sure where the Windows version saves the settings info (thanks Microsoft, for making Windows Store apps so dang convoluted to work with).
New to this. Is this where I find a group
Yes, you can LFG here
Im looking to help any new players out, if there are any
If anyone sees this and would like to play, my gamer tag on xbox is “JusABuckMain945”. Just message or invite me to a party
its that time of the 6 months, time to remove people from my friends list that dont play with me at all because of DRG, its because of DRG that i have alot of friends because i have to add them as a friend because my other friends cant invite them
hey
Hey
Hey
Does anyone here have any games that support mods on Microsoft store and if so is it easier or harder then mods on steam to add them to the games folder
Microsofts video on mods just say click enable mods and add it to mods folder also would it be harder to support mods on Microsoft vs steam
yes
How hard is it to enable mods on Microsoft. How much time does it take to enable mod support on Microsoft vs steams time to add mod support
you should ask microsoft support
Microsoft support is like a unicorn it doesn’t exist lol
hard, since we're not doing it currently and long, since we're not doing it currently.
I guess I should change my discord name to mods on windows?
Sure, it's not really going to make any difference, though. We do not negotiate with terrorists and people who express themselves through their Discord nicknames.
What about bribes
Also how’s the bribe going to get an Xbox headwear on Microsoft builds lol
So basically we have a better chance of Xbox series x/s upgrades then mod support
Anybody know if it’s possible to get 120 FPS on Xbox series x
if you throw it hard enough, yes
Just finished reading an article online with ceo of deep rock galactic lol said that after times deal a PS4/5 is likely. That seems like a great time to crossplay with Sony and Microsoft
That would help the player count on Microsoft build vs steam
I’m guessing August 24th for experimental branch while full release on steam would be September 14th and Xbox/windows release would be 28th. That would be a little over 2 weeks to test new weapons and overclocks on steam experimental branch
because you want to surprise us 😊
we dont
😢
guess that was a surprise in itself
I love these answers xD
The best kind of question is an unasked question
is it?
I just started the game need some people to help me out learn how this game works
I would but I’ve been burned out on Microsoft DRG that I’ve been playing modded DRG on steam but I’ve been getting burned out on that as well
Just waiting for update 35
You know you don't have to play DRG until you burnout, right?
hey
nibbles, you’ve changed
I barely recognize you
where has snickle gone
where even am I
Who are you?
what am I
are you?
You?
?
DRG was the only game i owned for the longest time until about 2-3 months ago
well red dead online was also the other game but between red dead online and DRG i basically beat them both as in high levels lol
Epic has been giving away free games every week for quite a while now. I have well over 100 games (and counting) that cost me nothing, and a good chunk of those are Triple-A titles that are well regarded. No reason you can't have way more to play, really
Take a break, play something else, variety is the spice of life or some such nonsense
most of the games i want/have dont support crossplay at all or yet
playing games single player just are not fun vs multiplayer crossplay like ARK
Overcooked 2, free right now on Epic. Not sure about cross-play, but someone told me they thought it had it. Literally no excuse not to play something else, haha
i think its possible that being a shut in aka world problem caused me to be burned out on video games
Go outside. Plant more corn, or something. How'd that go, anyway?
corn last year was better then my dads corn he planted lol
i also forgot call of duty cold war zombies lol
also i bought a huge bag of corn last year we planted about a little over half and we cant find the bag now lol
Nice! It's always enjoyable seeing your hard work pay off in a good way. And some home grown corn sounds lovely and now I'm making myself hungry...
my corn was almost all yellow while my dads was mostly burnt aka too much and not right to use chicken poop lol, imagine dwarf poop to grow stuff
In space you gotta work with what you got...
we have a little over 1 acre of land lol, we have alot of room
I meant the fertilizer. The dwarves are in space and have to work with what they've got... which is dwarf poop...
But yeah, sounds like you got more room than the dwarves. Plenty for a bit of corn, at least
i did disobey management and have pets on the spacerig lol
I won't tell if you don't 😉
Might be a long shot, but are there any plans to implement ray tracing on either pc or series x?
also a possible update for the xbsx for 120fps?
probably been asked a thousand times haha
Ray tracing will (pretty definitely) not be happening for any version as it would split the player base for each version between those who have ray-tracing and those who don't (since it would require completely different lighting rendering between ray-tracing on/off)
As for Series S|X specific upgrades, that has not been announced at this time
ah that's a good point on rt, shame tho since the caves would be even more gorgeous with that kinda lighting. Hopefully fps boost is announced in the future, would really improve the xbox experience and I'm sure would draw in more players looking for "next-gen" titles (the number of which is scarce)
How’s the progress on the update?
The update should be coming out in the Fall. Since it was just the summer solstice yesterday, that likely means about 3 more months at least
Ohhh thank you lad
We might go out on PlayStation," Lundgaard explained. "We have tested some stuff on PlayStation, and that is very difficult to do while in lockdown. PlayStation is obviously something we want to move on to but we need to find the right way to do it. We are caught a little bit in the middle between the two generations, right? [But] I cannot imagine a world where we will not end up on PlayStation.
Ghost Ship also plans to bring some next-gen improvements to the game for Xbox Series consoles, so it wouldn't be too surprising if a PS5 patch also appeared down the line once the game releases for Sony's consoles.
"We will, of course, improve the game for the next-gen version," Lundgaard said. "But the thing is that we still have to [be] cross-generational, right? So even if we did an improved version, it can't affect gameplay in any way. Yeah. So we need to be very careful of anything that has to do with the light and the darkness. This is a no go."
@viral jackal ^^^^^^^^^^
Because the game is built around lighting your own way through dark cave systems, ray-tracing is off the table. But expect higher resolutions and smoother fps, which is something the developer can tap into on Xbox "for free".
I hope that helps also @rotund dagger
The link to the article might be nice to add, too, in case anyone wants to read the whole thing
Thank you!
No problem hopefully that update will happen at the end of the year but that’s highly unlikely
Those interviews are bits taken from a longer interview, so they lack context.
Does the full interview exist somewhere?
Is there a better link?
I don't want to pass around wrong or misleading information
That said, I do recognize (and I hope others do as well) that any plans can and may change at any time, despite whatever is said in an interview
Remember your dwarf training: “If it ain’t set in stone, it does not have a home.”
Darn it, that's good!
:]
"Just 'cause we plan it, don't mean we can't can it!"
Hi
Howdy!
Im not sure who is on right now but if you ever wanna play you can add me if you want too i am new so uhm yeah
Welcome, miner! I still jump on a few times a month (so much to play, so little time), so if you ever see me on (same name as here) feel free to join if there's room
Okay 👍
No, they just did one interview and then divided it up into several pieces with their own headline. So the interview was conducted as one long talk, but (I feel) they sensationalized it by cutting it up into smaller pieces and using headlines to emphasize the content which makes it seem like the single points are bigger deals than they might be.
Bummer. I suspected something along those lines from Jacob's message (and news orgs do that kind of stuff all the time, of course), but it's nice when you get the much more lightly edited versions and I was hopeful there might be the possibility. Thank you for the clarification!
Im gonna try and play in a couple if anyone wants to join
@rotund dagger don’t you hate that when news articles are like that
At least I found answers to question like will they do Xbox series x upgrades and PlayStation copy
hopefully some questions were answered that you can answer them to other people about next gen upgrades and other stuff
why was @celest schooner dunced
also why am i not dunced lol
casually waits for tater or jacob to dunce me lol
will DRG ever get upgraded to directx 12 hardware feature 12 or is that planned along with xbox series x/s update
Q: Which hardware platforms will support feature level 12_2?
A: We’re absolutely pleased to inform that:
Feature level 12_2 is supported on NVIDIA GeForce RTX and NVIDIA Quadro RTX GPUs.
AMD’s upcoming RDNA 2 architecture based GPUs will include full feature level 12_2 support.
Intel’s roadmap includes discrete GPUs that will empower developers to take full advantage of Feature Level 12_2.
Microsoft is collaborating with Qualcomm to bring the benefits of DirectX feature level 12_2 to Snapdragon platforms.
The powerful new capabilities in feature level 12_2 represent exciting new possibilities for game and application developers.
im on feature level 12.1 lol
You’re not dunced because today is dunce the dicks day, and you’re currently not being a dick, but a dingus.
Embeds are disabled for just about everybody because of crash gif spammers
I need some help, if i had DRG on the microsoft store and i bought it on steam, would i be able to transfer my data from the microsoft version to the steam version?
Check the pinned messages in this channel
If i'm on xbox and my friends are on PC what's the easiest way to get together and communicate? I don't think i can just invite them to an xbox live party chat or anything like that
You absolutely can just invite them to an Xbox Live Party.
You can use the Game Bar built into Windows (press the Windows Key + G to open the Game Bar overlay), and then in the "Xbox Social" panel you can right click on anyone in your friends list, mouse over "Party" and click "Invite"
I'm a giant idiot and read your message backwards, sorry!
You absolutely can invite them to an Xbox Live Party. They can open the Game Bar (Windows Key + G) and click "Accept" on the invite that shows up in the Xbox Social panel of the Game Bar Overlay
Your friends must have the Microsoft Store version of Deep Rock Galactic, not the Steam version, because the Steam version does not have cross-play
Right, so i'm just sending a friend request/ game invite to their microsoft name or whatever? Or is it still called a gamertag on PC?
They need to be logged into Xbox on their PC. If they're already playing DRG, then that's probably the case. Their gamertag/username is displayed in the top left of the Xbox Social panel in the Game Bar overlay
They can search for you by your gamertag (using the search bar in the Xbox Social panal of Game Bar) and Follow you, and then you should get a notification and would be able to Follow them back, if that's easier
Is anyone else crashing a lot mid mission?
Nope
Haven’t crashed on DRG in months
Looking to knock out the EDD in an hour or so if anyone is up for it. EU/Xbox
GT: That Guerrilla or just @ me here
did you do it already?
no worries if you did im US anyways
Half way through it now, sorry
Is everyone ready for windows 11
I already got 10 windows, I'm not sure I need one more
They say it will release this holiday
Windows 11 will be a free download for Windows 10 users this holiday
They also said that my 10 windows would be the last windows I'd ever need, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
And last time I got more windows, they gave me 3 for free, and now they're only giving me one?
It's hard to be excited about 10% more windows. They want to get people excited about more windows, they should be giving you more windows, in my opinion. Like, why not give us 15 windows. That's 50% more windows! What a value!
Are you window shopping or something?
Not really, I feel like 10 is enough windows, and one more won't make much difference. Also, it'll screw up the symmetry
Asymmetry is best symmetry
Asymmetry is a symmetry, sure, but I'd say it's bestness is situational
:]
Now I’m wondering what are the plans for DRG on windows 11
If I had to hazard a guess I'd say that none of the core components are changing between win 10 and win 11. It looks like just a visual overhaul.
Then why couldn’t they do that with windows 10
marketing
Normally going from one version to another means core components/code had to change to warrant an upgrade to new version
There may be changes, but I wouldn't bet on it. To me it's clearly a UI change centered around another attempt at the microsoft store.
also other changes include what processors will work with windows 11 and mine does not support windows 11
RIP intel i7-7700K
at least pc health checker told me my computer is 3 years old lol
So a UI change centered around another attempt at their store with some other things that could've been included in a regular biannual update. It's basically a new desktop environment, which to be fair does take time to develop.
Let’s not forget the less then 1% that will download android apps on windows lol
What’s worse then having a bulk infestation warning
Not getting enough fiber in your diet?
No having Microsoft release another version of windows when they said windows 10 was the last version of windows
10% more windows!
Looking for 2 Players.
then join pod 3 (Voice call)
Scout+gunner LF engie +driller NAE Xbox/Windows finishing conquer hoxxes
LFG
Need one more w mic message me
still need one? i got all characters above 2nd prestige.
Yeah
Hi
It doesn't seem like there are many Microsoft people on this discord, If you play often send me a message so I can add you I play with my boy pretty frequently and we can never find people with mica
Mics*
Both 18+ w/mic
Some good old pipe hitting beer drinking boys
Rock and stone ✌️
No trump supporters
im new and im on microsoft version of deep rrock galactic
^ am pc here tbh
oh ok
lf some people trying to get back into the game mic please 18+
Man the windows store is so wack
I have no interest in win11 if they're going to shove it in my face even more
simply buy it 
Rare Spawn? Or old asset?
Saw one of those too yesterday idk
Not much. What's mushroom with you?
Mooshrum
🍄

Any new information on a release date for update 35?
Fall. As we just technically entered summer about a week ago, a prudent plan for expecting the update is about at least 3 months from now
As Jacob would say to me the more you ask the longer it will take
Had the same thing earlier restarting the game fixed it, got scared for a min
Only when you ask, nibs.
@rotund dagger Autumn 2021 in Northern Hemisphere will begin on
Wednesday, September 22
and ends on
Tuesday, December 21
All dates are in Pacific Time.
this should help when people ask when the update is coming out lol
let me change my guess to September 22 for experimental and October 13th for steam release and october 27th for xbox/windows that would give devs about 3 weeks for experimental branch testing
I'm familiar with how seasons work, thanks! 😁
another week on experimental would help find bugs since its a major update with weapons
i mean just post when fall starts and ends that would make alot of people confused when the update releases lol
they did basically say fall lol
october 27th for xbox/windows would make it easier for devs to release update 35 along with halloween content at once
Martian, obv
That's an extra 52 days of fall. Very smart!
Martian fall doesn't begin until February 2022 our time, so you have left yourselves plenty of time to polish it up
Looking for 2 more to hit some rock. DM me
according to google it includes december up to 21st so an extra month of testing lol
no one can tell google otherwise lol
Only technically. Colloquially, many folks consider September, October, and November to be fall, with winter starting at the beginning of December
yup
Winter starts on December 21st and no one can tell me different
Although down in the hellscape that is Arizona, it's really only fall for amount a month.
Exactly, some folks don't get much in the way of seasons at all
I live where the average temperature is in between 70-80 degrees
I still get seasons. For now. We'll see how long that lasts...
Hello guys
Howdy
I’m staying positive about a lot of stuff
That's good! It can be a beneficial mindset
Yep rock and stone lad
Rock and Stone!
I’ve pretty much stopped playing DRG because of several reasons like to name a few people think I’m a hacker and content doesn’t exist for my high level
What happen to the good old day’s were everyone drinking at the abyss bar in good spirits 😥
18+ w mic need 2
I’m busy today
is there a discord community for windows 10/xbox players only
or has nobody done that yet
You mean besides this lovely channel here? I haven't heard of any specifically for Xbox/Windows, but I also haven't looked for any. Since this is the official discord server, I'd expect here to have the most traffic.
There are fan communities listed in the the #fan-communities channel, but I believe those are primarily fan communities for users who wish to use languages other than English
If you give yourself the Xbox role in the #welcome-and-rules channel, it'll unlock the Xbox/MS voice chat Pods. That could help with forming a crew
oh neat
also if u throw a Karl coin into the gravity well outside the spacerig you can get 20 blank cores lol JK
I just bought this game on steam and want to play with my friends who are on xbox but i dont know how to join them can someone tell me how to
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Unfortunately, the Steam version does not have cross-play
You can't
(And please don't ping the mods)
Also, this is not something to ping all the mods, or even any mod over
sorry @rotund dagger i didnt know
is there anyway to make it so i can play with my xbox friends
No
alr
You would need to have a copy on the windows store, or they would need to have steam copies
The Microsoft Store version is the only version that can play with Xbox folks
ok so would it be smart to refund it on steam and buy it on microsoft
If you have Xbox folks to play with, I'd say so. It's a lot of fun with friends
ya i do i played the tutorial and it was really fun and hella satisfying XD
It is on Game Pass, in case you already have Game Pass for PC
i dont, so ill just buy the full game
Figured I'd mention just in case
StoicMako the MVP
Good [insert local time of day], Lambentcy!
Looks like I’m going to buy gamepass ultimate for 3 months for 29.99 times 2 makes it 6 months
Better then normal price of 44.99
Good [local time of day of recipient] to you too, StoicMako!
I don't really understand the save file transfer from xbox to Steam. Every time I transfer the file, adding .sav to the end, it creates a new save file connected to steam. What am I doing wrong?
copy file name on Xbox side
transfer to steam side under fsd > saved > SaveGames and manually add .sav to the end
boot game
it's a new game.
AND it creates a completely new file.
You cannot simply copy the file and add .sav to the end.
You must copy the Xbox save file to the Steam save folder and then rename the Xbox save to have the same name as the existing Steam save (which means you must first either rename, delete, or move the Steam save because you cannot have two files with the same name in the same folder)
The reason why the Steam version keeps making an new empty save is because it must find the file with that specific name or it makes a new empty save
Ahh, thank you. I got it now.
too bad a friend just got the game on microsoft store and i have it on steam now he bought it for nothing cause its not crossplay to steam only xbox to microsoft store >>>>> will this change in a TM soon ?
No, connection systems are completely different and directly incompatible.
Then why can sea of thieves do it?
by running their own servers
They're 200 people, and owned by Microsoft. Ghost Ship Games is 25 people and independent.
To clarify, crossplay is possible, but it comes at a high cost. We'd have to reduce the cave generation on the current Steam version, since it's less complex on Xbox due to hardware limits. We'd also have to put in a lot of extra work on making all versions of DRG ready on the same day, which means if something goes wrong somewhere, everything would be delayed. That stifles our planning and agility which is something we benefit a lot from when developing DRG.
ty for the concise answer
im down for you guys to reduce cave generation on steam at least lol
or better yet ask microsoft to let you guys not put DRG in microsoft store supporting OG xbox one to support better cave generation on xbox
also does windows build have same cave generation as steam as when i play on windows build i get huge caves but when i play on xbox series x it seems a little smaller
ill be on DRG just to do the weekly if anyone wants to join me
The win store version is identical to the xbox version.
Nope
if this game uses P2P, why cant we as windows build players have same generation as steam and xbox can have a warning saying joining this game is too complex for your hardware and i says press a to enter at own risk or leave like a elf lover you are lol
I'd be willing to bet that microsoft has probably said the versions have to be functionally identical
If it is available on the Microsoft store and it's available on Xbox then it has to be able to be cross-compatible between Microsoft store and Xbox. That is not anywhere close to unique for this game
I’m confused why they are still supporting the OG Xbox one. Microsoft needs to stop supporting that hardware
As far as I can tell from various reporting, as of February this year, it looks like Microsoft has sold about 50 million Xbox Ones, and only about 2.8 million Series S|X. Those are not officially announced numbers, they are based on estimates from data analysis firms.
So, you have over 15 times more Xbox Ones than Series S|Xes in customers hands, and you want to sell as many games as possible. Who do you make games for? 50 million Ones or 2.8 million Series S|Xes?
im talking about the OG xbox one the other ones like xbox one s and above should still be supported @rotund dagger
That would probably leave a bad taste in a lot of peoples' mouths since the whole point of the One S and One X is that they will not render the original One obsolete. I'm guessing there's a lot of people are still happily using their original Xbox Ones
xbox one s and above them probably has enough hardware in it to support better cave gen
OG xbox one going to xbox one s got a slight upgrade in hardware
Extremely small upgrade, by the sound of it. CPU and RAM stayed pretty much the same and GPU went from 1.31 tflops to 1.4 tflops
@rotund dagger if Jacob was on I’d ask what hardware would support better cave gen
he might tell me that only the xbox 1440 would support it lol
i think i typed that wrong that turns out to be the xbox one X in gen systems going from xbox 360 lol
It's a moot point; Microsoft's policy is that an Xbox One game has to work on all the Xbox One hardware. And even if it didn't, if you split the player base based on their hardware people would not be happy. Look how popular cross-play is. No one is asking to be able to play with less people
only time i hear player asking about playing with less players is when they are cheating
also microsoft is spliting player base on windows 10 with games by requiring certain windows OS build like DRG.
That's not splitting the player base, that is removing a player base. However, the updates to allow a person to play are free if they choose to accept the requirements
The reason why there's no cross play between Microsoft and steam is because that has to be done on the company's end, someone like Activision or a couple others have the facilities to support cross-platform because all the servers are on their end anyway. With deep rock galactic all the servers are on Microsoft or steams end because it's P2P servers to my understanding, which to my understanding no one's quite cracked how to make that cross-platform. Microsoft store and Xbox or technically not cross-platform because it's basically the same thing as far as servers are concerned
You have guests correctly because I know I am nowhere near the only one who uses their original Xbox one. I would like to upgrade but that will be a while
def not true second extinction will be getting crossplay between windows/xbox and steam in September
microsoft already has some crossplay games with steam but only on computers like rise of nations and age of empires
Are those P2P servers or are they dedicated? Because to my knowledge it is very difficult if not impossible to get a P2P server working between Steam and Microsoft store without both of them cooperating.
I cannot find any information as to whether or not second extinction uses dedicated or P2P servers
Based off the connection issues problem that I just read up on I'm going to assume it's dedicated servers on the company's end not Microsoft or steams end
Oh, not impossible. I think there's few, if any, pre-made solutions for it. If the devs of a game want to do it, they basically have to do build at least some aspects of the networking for it themselves. At the end of the day, peer-to-peer is essentially like old LAN connections with a few extra hops thrown in, so not impossible, but you have to come up with a scheme for verifying and connecting accounts that are not inherently compatible.
I believe that No Man's Sky is peer-to-peer, as it was originally only single-player and you only connected to a data server for global sharing of discovered planets and species. No Man's Sky implemented their own Friend Code system to enable cross-play multiplayer when they did the multiplayer update. You log in with you account on your platform (PlayStation, Steam, Microsoft, etc.), and can add friends to your No Man's Sky profile in-game via their in-game Friend Code. Then you have a friends list that only exists for No Man's Sky, but it works
DRG could probably do something similar, but it'd be a ton of work, and Jacob pretty much explained why it's not a straightforward, easy to do feature for DRG
There's what Jacob said and then there's a likely another reason that Jacob either left out or probably didn't think of it would just be too much work to get the cross platform functional forget all the other downsides real quick let's assume they just don't exist for whatever reason, it probably would not be easy to just get the Microsoft version and the steam version to cooperate because like Jacob said there's only 25 people working on the game, that's not a lot of people to do something like this. That's time they probably could have spent say working on ideas for a new mission type, or if they have decided on a mission type that they may be adding into the next update that's time they could have spent working on that. When you're dealing with incredibly small companies you have to think about resource management that larger companies don't really have to think about. And then you have all the other downsides that cross-play would entail and what benefits are there when we look at it like that, not a whole lot. I'm willing to bet if it was a 100 plus person team that the downsides would be less of an issue.
I mean, you basically just said what Jacob said, but longer haha. I'm afraid my long-windedness is rubbing off on you. Run, run while you still can 😆
No that's just how my brain works I give very long complicated answers when they're really not necessary
Also is there a difference between the terms player to player and peer to peer. Because I've heard both terms used and I've always wondered if there is an actual difference or if it's just two different terms for the same thing?
As far as I'm aware, it's two ways to say the same thing. There may be some technical difference, but I'm guessing many people would use them interchangeably
That would be my best guess as well, I would like to think I know more than your average gamer about servers but I definitely don't know technical details
Unless someone is curious or interested in how things work, hopefully all they need to know is that it works, haha
As far as servers are concerned so long as you have a vague idea as to the difference between P2P and dedicated then you're fine
Let’s not even talk about rockstars mesh p2p server usage lol
Sure, but really, in an ideal situation it all just works and you really don't need to know there are even different ways to do things
The difference can be useful to know in certain situations but you are mostly correct
After all, no one is playing a game to learn about networking (unless the game actually is about networking, like some hacking games have been in usually very general and basic ways, haha)
Or if you're incredibly weird like certain individuals I've talked to but the less said about them the better
You can talk about me all you like, I won't mind 😆
I wasn't referring to you but if you think you fit into that classification then whatever that's your problem
does anyone wwant to play
hey
Coca yola
Ice cold
Hey, i have problem with Looking-For-Group invites. I am playing DRG on my PC using Game pass subscription soo whenever i want to join lfg it is trying to launch DRG from steam instead of Xbox app with makes me unable to join any group. Is there any option to make it redirect to Xbox so i can play with others on discord?
Unfortunately #lfg-steam invites only works for Steam
50% off luckily
Oh also
You can transfer the save file between them
Yeah but it's hard to find where the games are save at on XBox version
Check pinned messages in this channel
But once you find it, you add .sav to the file name and then move it to the saves folder on Steam
^^^ This is not accurate. You must rename the Windows save to have the same file name and extension as the Steam save
Ah ye
You have to copy full exact name if the empty Steam save file
Make the computer think it was that file all along basically
Yep, the Steam version will only find the save file with the correct name and extension
Anything else and it'll just make a new, empty file with the correct name and extension
The guide in the pinned messages should explain everything
i eventualy realised that i already had a simmilar progress account on steam coz of some free weekends in with i was playing with my friends
but it is still nice to know that thinks such changing accounts are possible
now i wonder if there are people who are using it to gain something
If they are, well, it's not a competitive game, so they're only really able to cheat themselves out of the intended progression. There isn't really anything else that can be gained
I was hoping developers would add a feature grounded has called export save file and that would help out with some of the transfer save file method.
Also it would be cool if they replaced Xbox insider with a channel where you can ask developers questions and it’s a time based channel that has slow mode and opens and closes during their business hours because I forgot to ask what Xbox hardware is required to support steam DRG cave gen unless @wraith compass would have any idea off the top of his head
I’m pretty sure Xbox series x would support it but I’m not sure about Xbox one s
it doesn't matter, because we're not going to stop supporting Xbox One.
I’m just wondering
Does anyone know if Microsoft accepts Venmo as a form of payment because I got 10 dollars from Venmo just for signing up and my bank doesn’t support it so I need to see if either Microsoft or steam accepts it
Is anyone having problems with server list
I’m not seeing anybody on the server list I’ll check Xbox live servers
Ok I figured it out just had to wipe my Xbox series x to make it brand new and it had an update that it didn’t have before I checked damn ghost Xbox update lol
Maybe I should have bought a ps5 instead
Anybody wanna play DRG or should I play something else
hey i will play
Any chance for a ps4/ps5 version? I'd buy a 3rd copy maybe
pinned messages #suggestion-discussion
sorry i was typing while biking in town when i wrote that are you ready
also are you on steam or xbox/windows
Hasnt been updated in 3 months, plans can change. Maybe they have to wait for after the gamepass term is up to announce anything
Guess I'll ask again in november as i think most gamepass deals run a year
thats just gamepass microsoft might have made a longer deal with GSG to make it steam xbox/windows deal longer some deals can last forever if microsoft thinks its a great deal to make
Yeah but if it's forever it would be "no" rather than "no news"
microsoft made a timed deal with GSG at the beginning of development
Ahh
all deals made with microsoft have a NDA about when it ends to tell customers
Is this the correct chat to ask for help with moving your save file from gamepass to steam?
@fickle wigeon pinned messages
right but i still cant find my packages
i did the %appdata% thing and it didnt work
did u allow to view hidden folders/files
Yes I checked a box that said hidden
We dont have any console exclusivity deal with anyone.
I still can't believe the devs don't port your progress over this is ridiculous I'm not a computer head none of this makes sense
Can I post a picture of what I'm seeing and someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I renamed my player save but it's having me run through the tutorial
Also from what you said did you also put the extension on the end of the file .sav
Try posting a pic, yes.
@fickle wigeon
While it is possible to copy your saves between versions, it's not an official feature; it's a side effect of having essentially identical save files on the different versions. In my opinion, it's a fairly low priority to create a solution to port saves between versions since players can do it for themselves, and I suspect very few players ever need to do it at all.
That said, it sounds like you've gotten access to the save files and have copied the Windows version save to the Steam save folder, but the Steam version isn't recognizing the save file because the name and extension are not correct. You probably need to open File Explorer Options (click on the Windows Start button and search for File Explorer Options), and on the "View" tab make sure that "Hide extensions for known file types" is deselected. This will let you see the full file names and file extensions which must match exactly for the save file to be found by the game. Now you should be able to see the full name plus the extension so you can make sure you rename save file correctly.
Also, you cannot have two files with the same name and extension in the same folder, so you will need to either rename, move, or delete the empty Steam save file in order to successfully rename the Windows save file
Fall is in September right?
Colloquially speaking, yes, September, October, and November.
Technically speaking, fall is end of September, all of October and November, and most of December.
It's probably safe to assume the devs are using the colloquial definition of fall, because that's what normal humans do
Of course! Anytime!
We’ve actually said Q3
Martian Q3 starts in 235 days
Earth calendar Q3 started two days ago and goes through the end of September
We’re not big brained skeletal aliens though.
Anyone down for the elite deep dive?
Anyone down to play
Xbox id:SOM#1108
hey
Anyone wanna do an Elite Deep Dive (pod 13)
Anyone down to play
Pod 13, LFG Xbox/Microsoft Store
Username: BusiedBark24826
@hexed glade @wooden mulch
Y'all can give yourselves the Xbox role in the #welcome-and-rules channel, and that will unlock the dedicated Xbox/MS Pods. That might help with finding folks who can join you, as the general pods are often used by folks on the Steam version and the Steam version has no cross-play so they will not be able to join your game
Oh ok thanks, didn't know about that
oh thanks dude
on a side note
did the newest update optimise the hell out of the game
it used to run my pc pretty hard but now it goes wiht no problems
I don't believe there were major optimizations in update 34, but if it's been a while since you played, update 31.5 did change things quite a bit last year
Hey guys, any chance for steam and xbox game pass to play together in the future?
if im not mistaken theres like a fundamental reason why theyre not already. i think different servers
like xbox and windows are on microsoft and the steam version is on say amazon servers
The are no announced plans do cross-play with the Steam version, and there are good reasons for it. Aside from just the amount of work it would take to create a system from scratch to handle cross-play across currently incompatible platform account systems (which would mean fewer resources available to develop new content, at least within a defined time frame), it would disrupt the development agility the devs have because the Steam version is separate (it is much faster to release new builds to Steam and then find and fix problems there, compared with Microsoft's system). This agility benefits the planning, design, and implementation of new development for DRG. Also, cross-play would require things like a reduction of the cave complexity of the Steam version to make it compatible with the Microsoft version, as the Microsoft version must be capable of running on the limited hardware available in an original Xbox One
huh, fancy that
@sharp aurora @rocky shuttle #xbox-and-windows-store message
Anyone down to play
||hi||
my and da gang
do u want a 4 digit player to join you lol
What’s happening lads
I understand 🙂
Hi I’m new and I suck but I love this game so far. Any good informational YT channels on this game y’all know of?
Welcome! I haven't seen any videos/channels personally, but I know that some youtubers/streamers have made videos. There may be some links in the #drg-videos channel, but I'm not sure what all is there
Hey all, I just started playing and was wondering if there were other people who wanted to add another to their group? I’ve kinda realized this game is much more fun with other players but I don’t have any friends who play this.
Make them play it
But yeah, keep an eye out here, and I see you have the Xbox role already, so keep an eye on the Xbox/MS Pods
And welcome!
Anyone on Xbox lookin for a noobie?
I’m on Xbox but I’m also noob
why does DRG need admin approval to install
you probably have to ask unreal about that.
Im having Teredo Tunneling Service issues that Ive been trying to troubleshoot for hours, i cant invite anyone or join any games. I was wondering if anyone here had solutions.
Fairly new myself
It’s ok I have just been joining randoms and fairly new myself
So that first stage of the deep dive this week..... I don't think I've ever fought a dreadnought on worse terrain. I feel like they need to add a new callout to the game where your dwarf just shouts "PARKOUR" as yo frantically flee from a gigantic bug trying to chew you in half.
Hey guys. Im relatively new. Getting my 2nd character promoted at the moment. But need friends😂
Any haz5 Xbox players? Used to run the elite and haz 5 all the time but have not played in a few. I need players because all the regulars have moved on. Add me GT: I Crush Zygoma
Yes, but I’m EU
Bug or intended to have it say in mission in deep rock galactic
Any xbox on rn ?
Does windows count lol
I’m on rn, tho I may only be able to play one game
You guys can join me Haz5 lobby escort.
I was right GSG did have a deal with Microsoft but ended at 1.0 launch
Well crossplay is definitely not going to happen with PlayStation and Xbox seeing how epic had to make a deal of a lifetime to get Sony to open up crossplay on PlayStation. Ouch epic has to pay Sony additional fees for crossplay lol
Epic is also running a Free 2 Play game and doesn't want to share the revenue with the platforms.
Epic is literally threatening Sony there.
Oh no we both typed Sony and/or PlayStation in Xbox/windows channel. Karl is coming back from the dead now to kill us all lol
I guess Sony didn’t have the rock and stones to sue epic like Apple is doing lol
well, Epic sued Apple first.
Either way epic and Apple are suing each other so it’s going to be an epic Apple fight no food/company pun intended lol
Booo
An epic food fight lol
Booooo
Epic bite out of Apple lol
ಠ_ಠ
Because apples logo already has a bite out of it lol
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
Sounds like Playstation isn't really an inviting place to sell an indie game. According to a few indie devs, Playstation sales numbers are the lowest sales numbers for their games because Sony is only interested in promoting Sony games unless you pay them a significant chunk of money. Microsoft and Nintendo do a better job of promoting new releases for free than Sony (but you can still pay Microsoft and Nintendo for a prime spot in the store if you want). Some devs have said the Playstation Store makes their games almost impossible to find without using the search bar. I get the impression that a Playstation version of any indie game is a lot of work (not just to port the game, but to even just communicate with Playstation reps) all to get onto an indie-unfriendly platform...
That sounds like Hell that isn’t worth going through.
I think that is a recent development. They used to be very indie focused.
That's a shame for devs and for folks on playing on that platform. I've had more fun with indie games lately than with big, "Triple-A" titles
they did a lot for indies on PS4, when Microsoft was sleeping on their laurels
I believe it. And they sold a bunch of PS4's, so I bet it was still a worthwhile investment for some devs/publishers based on the scale of the install base. It sounds like their focus has recently shifted onto being a system just for their big, exclusive, Triple-A games. They'll let you put whatever you want on their systems (within reason), but they not gonna help you with it
Which I suppose does make sense from a business standpoint, provided their own stuff continues to perform well for them
Whaddup Dunois
That probably changed when Shuhei Yoshida got demoted, he's the king of indies. The stuff about devs paying for crossplay is pretty standard for a market leader imo, if a platform helps out smaller user bases it's only business sense to try to protect your earnings.
People should remember that corporations aren't your friends, microsoft is being consumer friendly right now because they have to since they are way behind and they're trying to expand their market share. Expect that to change if they get to 1st place
That said sony is being really greedy rn
The paying for crossplay, I think, was largely about not wanting to lose their cut of the money from microtransaction purchases. If you're playing on a Playstation, they only want you to have access to what you've bought through the Playstation store. It does make sense from a business standpoint, even though it's consumer-unfriendly; when you have the current best selling home console an such a large captive audience, who cares what the audience wants...
As for Microsoft only being consumer-friendly because they have to play catch-up, I think that Phil Spencer is genuinely trying to lead Xbox in a more inclusive, consumer-friendly manner for the sake of being better, and not just for the sake of beating the competition. My impressions might be completely wrong, but they've certainly been putting forth effort in ways that don't seem as immediately profitable. I look at things like the Xbox Adaptive Controller to make games more accessible; that thing can't be making lots of money, but must have cost a good bit to R&D, but it does potentially enable more folks to enjoy games. There's other things besides just that, but I think thats a big example by itself.
It's easy to be cynical, and I'm sure things would be different if Microsoft had been dominating the last few years, but I think we'd still see stuff like the Adaptive Controller just for the sake of making things better for more people. Obviously companies are very aware of the importance of public perception, but video games and companies have ignored accessibility for so long and are only just now starting to get better about it in a noticeable way. It'd be so much easier to continue to ignore trying to improve accessibility than to do something about it, and there'd probably be little backlash about it; everyone assumes that the big companies just don't think about those things since they never have before
Microsoft didn't get big playing nice, you only have to look to their big moneymakers in Office365 to see the future of MS gaming if they manage to succeed
Satya Nadella isn't all in on xbox because it is their future model, they want to apply their existing one to gaming and try to catch the billions of mobile users as well
The problem rn is that amazon and tencent are gonna be as bad or worse
And if MS doesn't succeed one of those two probably will
Xbox is a different department that is generating a ton of revenue from Game Pass alone. I think, and it certainly has seemed like it to me so far, that he has the leeway to try things and that he is trying things with more than solely profit motivating the Xbox division. Like I said, my impressions could be completely wrong, but that's the feeling I've gotten. And I'm generally very cynical and untrusting of companies, because companies are not your friends, but they are run by people and sometimes people can be capable of making decisions for additional reasons besides maximizing profit. We just don't see that happen often
I do think it'd be a different story entirely if Xbox was just a giant money pit that Microsoft had to somehow deal with
Won't happen in a publicly traded company
Xbox isn't publicly traded. Microsoft is
Yeah and xbox is part of microsoft...
My point is I think Xbos has some flexibility inside Microsoft because Xbox makes money instead of costing money, but imporantly is not anywhere close to being the main profit generator for Microsoft
I can't imagine anyone is banking too heavily on Microsoft stock based on what the Xbox division is doing
I mean they just dumped 7.5b in investment into xbox, you better believe investors are paying attention
It's actually higher, 7.5b is just bethesda
And I wonder how that translated into Game Pass monthly subscriptions...
Idk the last official numbers we got were 18m in february
Or january i forget
I'm sure they are around 25ish now
$250 million a month isn't a bad amount of revenue...
Depends on how much they are spending on content
I think the pockets aren't infinitely deep, I was really expecting BF2042 timed exclusive
Even if that cost $500m that would've been a huge driver of subs
I doubt content costs anywhere close to a quarter of a billion dollars a month
Idk, netflix just started generating profits and they're at 200m subs
Regardless
Point is, i looked at their financial statement from the end of march and their overall gaming revenue was far higher from traditional sources than gamepass
Gaming went up 3.4b revenue for q3 yoy compared to 2020 and doing the math gamepass was at most 20% of that
What fraction of Microsoft's financials is Xbox?
Uh, let me look
any engies wanna mucka bout with a scout in haz 2/3? I wont talk a lot but i will talk. EU. Xbox pod 1
So we don't actually know because in the financial statement ms rolled gaming into the "personal computing" segment which includes windows os sales, hardware sales (surface, etc), and search ad revenue from bing and other ms operated services. Total revenue was 41.7b in q3 and personal computing was 13b of that
So optimistically 25% or so
At a minimum it was 3.4b (the yoy increase in revenue of gaming was said to be this much) so worst case ~8%
I think i saw somewhere that microsoft stated gaming increased like 50%? A while ago so maybe gaming makes up ~10b
I'll have to look that up
I would have guessed less than 10%, but sounds like it could be a little higher than I thought. Anyhow, if Phil Spencer is solely motivated only by profit then he has me fooled, because I'm still under the impression that he gives a damn and is trying to make things better because that's a good thing to do and makes money
I don't like him
Fair enough. I only know what I've seen in public appearances, so I could just be a fool, haha
I just don't see certain things happening if profits are the sole motivator
I think he's a good CEO I just don't like the way he talks. It's too PR.
I mean that's his job but i don't like how he's always trying to spin stuff positively
It makes it hard to trust him
They're all too PR, they all spin. I actually feel like he spins less than most, in video games, at least. Or maybe that he at least genuinely believes what he's saying instead of saying what he thinks people want to hear. Like I said, perhaps I'm just being fooled
He's struck me as more candid than most, while still not giving too much away
Give you an example, last year exclusives were anti-consumer and anti-gamer according to him, this year bethesdas stuff is all exclusive
Now i dont really care about those games but i just cant take him seriously when that kinda stuff happens
I would prefer him to say less
this is like listening to 2 doctorate professors talk about consumerism (in a good way)
Oh. Fair. I find the openness refreshing, and I feel it's genuine. It does leave a person more room to make mistakes though, which can definitely be messy
But I'd almost always rather have too much info
I think there's a distinction between buying the rights to have a title exclusively, and to have your own titles exclusive on your own platform. People keep bringing up how Valve made Half-Life 2 exclusive to Steam, when in fact that was their own title on their own platform. That's miles apart from reaching out and paying someone to go exclusive.
Yeah except bethesda was a 3rd party multiplat publisher so the distinction is meaningless
yeah, emphasis on was
so it's not really meaningless
I think the brand stays, but the structure wont
It is though? Phil specifically said xbox wasnt trying to take games away from people when talking about exclusivity. Buying a multiplat publisher does exactly that
I think that's a good point. And when the purchase happened they did come out and say that all existing deals and exclusivity would be kept and honored. I'm sure there could be some legal consequences if things went otherwise, but I'm Microsoft could also probably just cancel development if they were trying to play around. Games get canceled all the time
@rotund dagger true. They could have played dirty, but i dont think they would've because their end goal is probably to try and get some form of gamepass on every platform including nintendo and sony systems
Sony would never allow that without a presumably cost-prohibitive cut
It's also smart saying that they would like to do something, knowing that they probably can't because someone else says no.
Sony seems to have completely shifted their focus solely onto their Triple-A, first-party exclusives
I could see sony allowing a gamepass lite with only xbox 1st party games included
It would be an interesting proposition as both benefit and both have additional risk.
It is an interesting idea, but I don't think Sony would be interested unless they were going to get an unreasonably large cut. I would guess they'd want a percentage of all subscriptions, not just subscriptions made through their store
After all, that was the deal they made with Epic, if I'm remembering correctly
I doubt they'd divide their SKU like that
Oh, and the only way a hypothetical Game Pass on Playstation service could work with Xbox exclusive games is if it was only a streaming service. There's no way they'd develop ports of everything to run on Playstations. So realistically, outside of streaming, the only games available would be titles that are already multiplatform, which wouldn't make much sense for Xbox
Yeah idk
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mine is 1080p
I’m all about that 144p
Add a 0 after 144 😛 That's my res
I wont
I’m bad at math
I got you. 0 + 144 is 144
A friend of mine is just got the game last night but can’t join multiplayer games
He is on Xbox
He downloaded it off of game pass, and in an attempt to fix the issue bought the deluxe edition so he owns the game
Does someone have a way to fix this so we can play
He says when he checks the server browser, it says Gold required or something, but he has Xbox live gold
Check the Date & Time settings in Windows and make sure "Set time automatically" and "Set time zone automatically" are both turned on.
If that doesn't do it, look through the pinned messages in this channel if you haven't already and check the connection issues stuff.
Also, make sure everyone is fully loaded into the space rig and able to run around before attempting to join or send/accept an invite. If the options to join/invite are grayed out, have everyone who is try to play together fully exit and relaunch the game
His time settings are as you said, we’ve tried restarting the game multiple times since last night and again just now
He said his privacy settings are still default
He’s tried uninstalling and reinstalling
Has he rebooted the console since installing DRG?
Yes
It could be the result of accidentally downloading the insider version first (which for some reason is still available on the Xbox marketplace)
It shouldn't install that though from the Game Pass screen or the Buy screen in the Store, I wouldn't think
It gave him three options, buy, install, free
Buy the game
Install the game off of game pass
Free insider version
Well, that sounds like a less than ideal way for Xbox to have set that up, but I would still think it shouldn't install the Insider version unless he clicked on the Insider version
It didn’t say insider, it only said $29.99 install free
He didn’t know which version he was downloading until he started it up
See that's what a normal person would think, but this is microsoft we're talking about. They're releasing an entirely "new" OS just to get a do-over with their store.
Well, that's a bad way for Xbox to do it if that's the case. I'm not sure there's much more to be said other than to do whatever is necessary to make sure he installs the proper live build
On PC it's a separate thing in the store, so I assumed it would be on console as well. I know I shouldn't be assuming things...
@untold stratus If he has the right version installed, he should see version number 1.34.53390.0 in the lower left of the pause screen next to the words Status: OS Online
I’m having him try uninstalling, rebooting his Xbox, and reinstalling
Yep, that's a good idea
I’ll hav him check that next
That number is the same
But the numbers below it are slightly different
Those numbers below will be different. They're seed numbers for the procedural generation
They're just there for troubleshooting errors with things not generating correctly
He still can’t join
If the server screen is still saying Xbox Live Gold is required, the only thing I can think of is making sure Xbox Live Gold is indeed still active for his account
He’s able to play Destiny 2 just fine, and I’m in a party chat with him now
Is Destiny 2 free-to-play now? Xbox recently made it so free-to-play games do not require Live Gold anymore
If he hasn't yet, he can try restarting his router and making sure port forwarding and NAT settings are optimally setup for Xbox
Still waiting for the update 😒
Well as Q3 just started you still have till the end of September.
Understand
Did this guy download all the updates? I know that when I haven't updated my ms store version it won't let me join multiplayer games
I just saw some guy named nibbles021 who has a mastery of 1246
Guys how do I enter game chat on Xbox?
That guy is in this discord and is quite a common face in this channel.
I really can’t figure this out
You cant
You have to use mouse+keyboard which iirc only works on the windows store version
If you see typing in chat you're playing with someone on pc via crossplay, use your mic or ingame methods to sign and communicate
Who is he
hey, if you’re nibbles i’d appreciate it if you didn’t teamkill me on on-site refining like a greenbeard, then kick me
Pretty sure that's him, when he hosts his game is called something like "i abort the mission if you call the drop pod early" or sth
Been a while since i played with hin
Wait so there is a voice chat?
The other guy you just replied to.
Or do you mean a party?
both
there is an in-game voice chat
and party
Thats what I meant how do I enter in game voice chat on Xbox?
i hadn’t done anything, I was placing pipelines, and he just tks with me with c4
Just unmute the mic if you’re on Xbox. There’s no text chat on Xbox if that’s what you’re asking.
I thought you could type in chat on xbox if you had a keyboard connected
I guess I never got it to work since my little keyboard pad that connects to the controller doesn’t detect any text chat capabilities.
So I don’t have to do anything I just have to have the head set on?
Yeah you can for sure use reg text chat with a USB keyboard just plug it in and type away
Yep, just plug it in and say something.
Are you talking about like an actual keyboard only or can those keyboards that connect to the controller work?
do they still make those?
They’re slowly falling out of style but yes, they still exist.
interesting. I dont know about that, But I do know for a fact that actual keyboard and mouse works. I believe there is a way to access it with controller, you just have to find the direct keybind for it
@celest schooner What miner level are you?
I couldn’t tell ya. Not at home to check.
I don't think those work, although I don't have one, I'm under the impression they are designed to shortcut type straight into party chat
our first haz 4 elim
your gunner saw some crap
that gunner is me and 20 swarmers with 0 bullets at low health
ok now do haz 5
haha pain
Lol ouch
hey guys I'm having a crashing problem where the game would crash on Setup. I've tried the solutions I've seen online like turning off Geforce and running the game though administrator. turning off geforce decreased the crashing temporary. I also used some of the Solution in FAQ in the channel. I would really appreciate some help.
You're playing the windows store version?
What are your pc specs, windows 10 i assume?
That’s right, I got the game of the Xbox gamepass @frigid jungle
What gpu are you using?
@here Hello everyone. How to play together if a friend has a Steam version and I have an xbox?
Hello everyone. How to play together if a friend has a Steam version and I have an xbox?
You cannot play together since the Steam version does not have cross-play. Your friend would have to have the Microsoft Store version to play with you
Hey does anyone want to do deep dives with me?
intel UHD graphic @frigid jungle sorry for the late reply work 😅
Oh uh...does it meet the min requirements?
I looked it up and it seems motherboard video chips are not supported
Also might want to check and see if it’s up to date and can support directx 12
can anyone help me out with the crossplay feature?
me and a friend are trying to play together but I can't invite him and he can't invite me
i'm on gamepass pc
he is on xbox one
I got it fixed I added the game on NIVDIA control panel 😛 now my game hasnt crashed. I’ve been able to play 3 games straight without it crashing. I’m don’t know much when it comes to computer , I’m stay learner.
I'm trying to find the install location of the Win10 version but having no luck
can anyone point me in the right direction?
Are you enabling show hidden files in the windows explorer settings?
Windows obfuscates the location of the game files (for your protection, of course. Thanks, Microsoft!). If you're looking for the save file location, the pinned messages in this channel have instructions for finding save files
I'm actually after the executable for my mouse profile to link to
I found the DRG folder (I think?) but the only executable I found there wasn't what I expected it to be called iirc
Once upon a time (before update 31.5), the UWP version of DRG had no executable, and used the generic UWP executable. You would have to target that generic executable as a profile trigger for mouse software. The downside of that was your mouse would switch to the DRG profile you set up anytime you ran any UWP app. If DRG was the only UWP app that you ever used, it wouldn't be too bad.
I bring up the history lesson to say that the game no longer uses the UWP framework, but I'm not sure what executable it does use now. I'm not sure how the PlayFab framework that replaced the UWP framework functions, it may be similar in that is uses a generic PlayFab executable.
I haven't tried, but you could open Task Manager on a second monitor (if available) and then start DRG, and see what executable starts up with DRG. Then, you can search for that file. However, Windows hides the files for apps from the Microsoft Store, and protects the folder from user access, so I'm pretty sure you'll have to change the folder permissions to access files
hey my friend is having trouble joining me, whatever we do, he cant join any online games
any idea why this is? it goes to an infinite loading screen
Check the Date & Time settings in Windows and make sure "Set time automatically" and "Set time zone automatically" are both turned on.
If that doesn't do it, look through the pinned messages in this channel if you haven't already and check the connection issues stuff.
Also, make sure everyone is fully loaded into the space rig and able to run around before attempting to join or send/accept an invite. If the options to join/invite are grayed out, have everyone who is try to play together fully exit and relaunch the game
holy shit it works
the time zone thing on my buddys pc is broken
so he did set it to auto
but we fiddled with it and it works now
Alright he managed to join a game and complete a mission, thank you so much
You're very welcome! Glad it worked!
Thanks; I have tried before to open the file location of the executable displayed in Task Manager but nothing happens.
With that being said, I have since taken control of the Windows App folder that I believe is where the Store installs things, so I'll give it another go and failing that just search through it a bit more rigorously!
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its a shame @rotund dagger cant be a mod for just xbox/windows chat esp now to clean up the spam esp with Mayonnaise
spam with mayonnaise sounds good right now lol
thats the dwarfs sandwich spam with mayonnaise lol
Spam, spam, lovely wonderful spam
just came back to the game anyone willing to play?
Is it Tuesday yet
Wait until tomorrow
I can’t wait until tomorrow for an update
Wait faster
What update?
I am unsure of why this is happening, i was getting a crash telling me "exception access violation" but managed to trouble shoot that. but now i am getting "expanding array out of range" if any mission goes longer than ~18 minutes. I am new to the game and the first couple weeks i had no problem, but now i am unable to play at all.
Anyone have a solution or should I just not play and wait until next video card driver
I'm not really able to do any in-depth searching regarding those errors, but they both sound like memory errors. If that's the case, I would think you'd experience errors with other games and possibly just normal system operations, but memory issues can sometimes be tricky in how they manifest.
You may have faulty or insufficient memory, but that's just my first guess based on what you've written
not vram right? because i kinda thought the same thing because i do tend to stall out in some other video game but when i looked, it was saying vram not system ram
i have 16gb and it never gets above 60-70%
Right, System RAM, not VRAM. If one of the chips on one of your memory sticks is starting to go bad, you might only experience oddness randomly and rarely when the faulty chip starts getting utilized, like when running a game that loads a bunch of stuff into memory
In the case of DRG, as a mission continues, it may need additional space in system memory to keep track of things. When that happens, it'll ask Windows to give it access to more space in system memory. When that happens, DRG may finally try using the area of memory that's going bad and then things can go sideways
was the pickaxe changed at all?
I change my pickaxe all the time. So many fun combinations of parts and skins 😝
🙄 no i mean sometimes when im mining it seemingly randomly resets the animation
im wondering if it's a problem with my mouse or the game
I'm not sure anything has changed in that regard. I believe that some people engage in some animation canceling to perform fast pickaxing, which might be similar to what you're seeing. I'm not sure if the animation canceling is new or not as I've never really bothered with it; if I mine too good too fast, mission control just gives more more missions to do...
@indigo folio Search for "Windows Memory Diagnostic" in your start menu, and run the application. Click restart and run and it will restart computer and check if any RAM stick is going bad
@rotund dagger ^^^^^^ don’t forget to list that for helping people also for certain problems
I'm not familiar with Windows Memory Diagnostic. I've personally been using Memtest86 (or Memtest86+) forever for memory testing, but I'll keep it in mind. However, offline memory testing is a bit more of an advanced troubleshooting task, and there are some folks who might not want to deal with all of that and then deal with replacing RAM themselves (even though it's a relatively simple task, compared to other PC fixes)
Yeah i know about fast pickaxing, but what i'm describing is different. Sometimes when I'm holding down right click to engage in pickaxing, the animation randomly stops and starts over again. It's not a visual glitch either. It's like my mouse has something wrong with it that causes it to "forget" that I'm holding right click or there's a bug in this version of the game. I'll see if the problem persists in another game.
There is some kind of bug that causes held inputs to be dropped. I have no idea what causes it, but it's easiest to see with weapons where you tend to hold the fire button (i.e. flamethrower, minigun, auto-cannon, etc.). I don't think I've ever seen it with the pickaxe, but I would not be surprised at all if it happened with that too
Oh, it's very noticeable (when it happens) with the Breach Cutter with the Return to Sender Overclock
nah just tried playing another game and it looks like my mouse is broken
it doesn't happen often so it's not too big of a problem
That very well could be as well. My left click started going funny on my last mouse; it would sometimes register double-clicks when I only single-clicked, and would occasionally let go of click-and-drag halfway through a drag. Those little switches are sometimes not the best. It might be cleanable with contact cleaner, but getting mice apart and back together can sometimes be more pain than it's worth (especially if it's older and other things will be wearing down before too long as well)
thanks for sharing your experience with this problem
It's the least I can do, haha
Idky it did that. Anyways. What I was saying is, thank you for the help. Will try it when I can. Spending 20 mins in a mission just to crash and lose xp and rss sucks. Probably around 4 to 5 hours of lost time since I started a couple weeks ago because of that.
Oh yeah, that feels bad. If you don't mind tinkering (and potentially leaving your PC on over night while it runs a few scans), Memtest86+ will scan through your System RAM and let you know how many errors it finds.
Usually, if you have multiple sticks of RAM (16gb of RAM often comes as two 8gb sticks), it'll only be one stick that is going bad. You can then try removing just that stick and see if things are working as expected (although these days 8gb is the bare minimum to run Windows 10, so you might be running a little slower than usual if you're using all of the available RAM).
I can't vouch for Windows Memory Diagnostic, but it'll probably be similar to Memtest86+ and might be a little more user-friendly. The important thing is you have options, haha
Yeah i will do that. I think I felt my memory going bad or manifested it as I was looking at getting more anyways about a month ago. But I might just get a whole new kit now
I feel my memory going bad all the time
If you know the brand and model number, you can just replace the one bad stick if you want to keep the cost down. But if that's not really a concern, an upgrade is always nice. Treat yourself, you deserve it!
@rotund dagger @indigo folio memory tool. https://youtu.be/PLr_sYeH30k
I know I'm asking for trouble when I post haz 4/5 missions as public, but man would it kill people to read the hazard rating before joining 
Well, it'll certainly kill them not to...
Oh, indeed it has
I wish we had more haz 4 games posted on a regular basis so I could join one instead of posting my own
But I guess everyone probably feels the same and doesn't wanna be the one to post lol
We used to play Haz 4 all the time (and Haz 5 when we're were feeling extra spicy), but between real life situations changing and opening missions to the random masses we've shifted to primarily Haz 3 because that keeps things fun when one of us has to step away and especially when the random folks are less experienced or less equipped to get too spicy
I found haz 3 is perfect for green beards and veterans
Haz 3 can still get away from you, but it's usually rare when that happens
haz 3 gets away from you when you're trying to carry a bad team through a max length mactera plague escort duty or long point extraction
I think it speaks well to the overall difficulty balancing, although Haz 1 is almost impossible to fail unless you and everyone you're with walk off too many ledges
My usual flowchart with public lobbies is to get bored with haz 3, try to spice things up with haz 4, fail 3 games in a row, then give up and play solo
That sounds right
Haz 4 is comfy enough that I can deal with greenbeards as long as they can manage an average time between downs of >30 seconds. But tonight's beards have been very green
What we do is play a few matches, and if the randos stick around for a few and also seem competent, we bump it up to 4 and see what happens
It does mean sometimes we never get to Haz 4 in a session, but like I said, sometimes our real life situations means that's for the best anyway. It's a bummer to have to step away during a fun, challenging mission only to come back and find your absence (and dead weight spiking the player-scaling difficulty) made it pretty much impossible for the team to succeed
With how the networking used to be on this version, I've certainly gotten used to suddenly needing to solo what was supposed to be a multiplayer mission
Fortunately, there are significantly fewer disappearing dwarves these days
I usually play on haz 4 rather than 5 even with friends, though, to avoid the situation you describe becoming a problem
Definitely. But I mean even when we finish a mission, folks tend to hop out of the lobby after returning to the space rig. Occasionally, we'll get one, then maybe even a second, who will stick around for a few missions, and that's when we can see what they're made of.
It's been a fun way for us to add a bit of a new experience to DRG when it works out. We'll even queue up Deep Dives with the randos who can hang in Haz 4 and see if they stick around. We did do an Elite, once, with someone who stuck around through a regular Deep Dive, but we were a squad of 3 very experienced friends on voice chat for that one. That said, the rando more than just held their own; it was a lot of fun
My friends are enough of a handful without randos to deal with on top of them lol, but getting another member who knows what's up sounds like fun
"With friends like these, who needs Glyphids?"
Haz 4 with friends is not an insignificant challenge for sure, but Haz 3 with randos can be an interesting, different kind of challenge
They spam it in all channels, so there’s no need to burden Mako with that too.
It would be my absolute pleasure to remove the unfortunate spam, but I think the folks who are responsible for moderation already do quite a good job at catching that stuff quickly. More often than not it's gone before I've ever seen it, and all that remains to give any clue that people were being obnoxious again is a little notification that something happened in this channel while I was away
6 hours until update for red dead online and I won’t be on here as much or at all
You always say that, and it never really happens.
Just in case is helps anyone else in the future, I finally managed to link the DRG executable to
FSD-WinGDK-Shipping.exe
found here:
C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\CoffeeStainStudios.DeepRockGalactic_1.34.53390.0_x64__496a1srhmar9w\FSD\Binaries\WinGDK
It kept just showing as DeepRockGalactic in the task manager which wasn't helpful (as that doesn't exist as far as I can tell) but I managed to get it to actually display as the above exe once (although not sure how or why lol)
I ran the memory diagnostics and windows found no problems. Im thinking maybe my thoughts that i needed more memory are true. i did reinstall last night and got the "exception access violation" error that i used to get a few days ago. i have not seen the new error "expanding array out of range" i was getting yesterday yet.
hi
box with x
Does 9 hours of me being off discord help lol
having a weird issue
getting infinite loading screen when joining public lobbies
and when I use the triggers my character icon changes between the classes
then when I press y it brings me back to the class I originally selected and plays a voiceline
is that how it always is and Ive never noticed
or is it an issue
Its always been like that
Lvl 300, Looking for players for mostly haz5 who are relatively competent (we all do dumb stuff some that part of the fun) I struggle getting people to join my public servers on 5. Xbox GT: I Crush Zygoma
I post this same post and it got buried before I could find because real life came up
Before I could see who took the offer*
Anyone having trouble sending and receiving xbox invites right now? I know it uses a client-server setup so it shouldn't be an issue unless it's on xbox live's end. Sea of Thieves is working though.
Seems like a few people are having trouble.
I’m kinda sad. I just heard about how poorly Sony treats indie studios, and it made me worry about my favorite devs and how well Microsoft treats them.
It sounds like Microsoft and even Nintendo provide more free opportunities for indie games to be visible on their stores, at least
It appears to be a widespread issue with most players at the moment
Xbox support twitter has mentioned a known issue with matchmaking in Halo 5 right now, and I don't see any reason why it couldn't be affecting other games as well
anyone wanna run a game?
"Multiplayer Session Ended" issue. Anyone experiencing this on xbox?
Yep.
Tried uninstalling and reinstalling, but no effect.
@tropic bone How bout no?
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I have the multiplayer session has ended issue and now cant invite or join anyone. SX
When i go to join friend in DRG it takes me to the store to install red dead 2?!!
Same.
Ditto
Hardly any games on in the server list
Invites work on other games for xbox currently just not drg
Ye
The game literally will not run on my MS account (pc or xbox). At the startup screen it says "Multiplayer session has ended." If I dismiss that notification it just pops up again. I can't even play solo. Uninstalling had no effect.
Steam version is working. And my daughter's MS account will play the game on my PC. But we can't play together. Rock and ... sad.
Help?
Pretty sure it's happening across xbox.
There's a limited outage affecting Halo 5 Guardians and Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege. Because DRG is a relatively small game, they may be affected by the outage and not reported. Give it an hour or two for Microsoft to resolve this issue.
Yelling "Rock and Stone" at friends, neighbors, strangers, etc. while digging a hole with a pickaxe works even when Xbox networking doesn't, just FYI
Bruh.
My issue seems to have been fixed by resetting the app in windows Add or Remove Programs menu (under Advanced Options). In case that's helpful to anyone else
