rogue-core-chat

[amber tide]

Alright, thanks

[inner granite]

from where you took that 24

[amber tide]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/170or40/roadmap_for_2023_2024_2025_season_05_in_june_2024/

[inner granite]

thats new
@tall plume ?

[tall plume]

yeah that's the old one from 2023

[inner granite]

ah, ok

i though you mean it was moved from 23, mb

[tall plume]

no, I meant the news was from 2023. Wasn't clear, my bad.

[zenith valley]

You guys have a screen shot or image for the recent roadmaps?

I did check pins out but its too cluttered with stuff

[daring hill]

There hasn't been a new roadmap

The existing one isnt that hard to find in the pins

[zenith valley]

So no new new roadmaps? Got it

[versed maple]

also question

will testers be neaded for rouge core?

and if so where can i apply

[cobalt ridge]

the steam page

[median sleet]

If you write Rouge Core instead of Rogue Core you get banned from applying to the playtest

[raven wharf]

I agree with that

[shell raven]

still havent earned access 😭

[hard frigate]

No, you just get a different version of the game, but its far far less exciting

Trust me. Am a rouge core tester

[upper haven]

Is it fun?

[hard frigate]

Meh

There’s only one activity, and its basically the DRG hearthstone mission, except theres no enemies and no dotty. You just walk a long ways, mine the core which is kinda red, and then go back to the drop pod

[inner granite]

Rogeu Core

[olive hound]

Rogue Core next wave maybe tomorrow? hopes are up.

[lilac heart]

Hopes are down. Stream description says that wave 4 probably won’t happen yet

And considering it’s the only RC stream in September, I wouldn’t expect Wave 4 before October, unless the schedule changes

[rare glacier]

when’s rogue core open beta test happening ?

[rocky garden]

V

[inner granite]

Piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiins

[versed maple]

Womp

[inner granite]

Rgoue core

[tacit urchin]

Chief, that's the gallows for ya

[hollow bear]

<@&296918282403840000> anotha one

[proven current]

Gouer Core

[novel silo]

Was there anything interesting in the stream earlier?

[marble pecan]

nothin major nah

[olive hound]

<@&296918282403840000>

[jaunty magnet]

<@&296918282403840000>

they're revolting tonight eh

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-ohcome-on-gif-7511567

I just came back ffs

[pseudo ocean]

We have rogue core, and rouge core. What about ragu core?

[young vessel]

raggamuffin core

[chrome basin]

Rage core

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gif-21785724

[summer dew]

i see an opportunity here

[pure vessel]

We're still evaluating wether or not next update comes after this sprint, or next, but I think there's a good chance that we have another update before October.

[neat acorn]

rogue core tomorrow

[glossy heath]

if no please ban him

[neat acorn]

miner, I would never* lie to you

[hollow bear]

Next wave before GTA 6 🙏

[civic drift]

Real

[keen cargo]

but is it too late to charge $100 for the update?

[hollow bear]

Try that with 1.0, you can just move the decimal over two spots to justify it to the players

[keen cargo]

oops haha... 😅 who forgot that decimal there... whoopsie

[olive hound]

Make it a dlc, all the game is now covered in a golden tint (terrain, the ramrod, the dwarves, the enemies)

[inner granite]

@ Moderator

[median yoke]

I want to rogue the core....

[tacit urchin]

You can't just rogue the core

[trim pelican]

i want to rogue my core

[dark ginkgo]

I'm really hoping I can get into the beta test for Rogue Core. I really like Rougelikes

[cobalt ridge]

Rc is a roguelite, even stated on its store page

[high sedge]

No rouge core news for months did they stop development and cancel the game?

[tall plume]

did you read the latest news on Steam - which is also pinned in this channel ?

[high sedge]

That's rogue core not rouge core

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza0-rouge-of-love-karaoke-kyriu-goro-gif-21583729

[tall plume]

ah my bad, I stand corrected

for Rouge Core news, it's right this way => || ||

[inner granite]

Rouge core was bought by EA
You will have to buy bosco for 1001 Deep dolars

Cheapest pack is 1000 D$ for 9.99 USD

And, and don't forgit lootboxes for skins

[native monolith]

You have to be banned for rouge core news???? Sign me up

Been wanting to hear about that game for years, but everyone just keeps talking about rogue core

[median yoke]

coring my rouge

[quartz zephyr]

This is so cool

[civic juniper]

Every time somebody misspells Rogue Core, its early access release is delayed by 72 hours

[inner granite]

rgoue core

[hard frigate]

You mean rouge core?

[compact shard]

Some people couldn't care less about the distinction. I certainly don't

[inner granite]

Game is game

[native monolith]

It’s a very “erm acshtually” difference too

Rogueliktes are just a giant spectrum anyway

[outer forge]

rock core

[inner granite]

No

Stone core

[jaunty magnet]

yeah this game exactly looks like the game called rogue that released in 1980 with ascii based "graphics" and grid based playstyle

actually if y'all interested, i recommend reading "berlin interpretation" about roguelike definition. little bit off topic tho sorry

[sand vale]

Most insane roguelike/lite take ive seen is someone saying that calling anything with real time gameplay a roguelike is ableist because "turn based roguelikes are the only genre of game I can play with one hand"

[tacit urchin]

Never speak to that person again

[jaunty magnet]

huh

[civic juniper]

so is their other hand missing or

[tardy ledge]

[sand vale]

Idk random reddit post i saw
From what ive seen r/roguelikes is just massively gatekeepy anyway

[visual latch]

Sounds to me like this person needs to be looking for turn-based games rather than rogue-likes/-lites, if games being real-time is an issue

[hybrid cedar]

is season 6 in og deep rock under development or is rc the main priority?

idm either

[tardy ledge]

#drg-chat message

[hybrid cedar]

nah that's about both

[tardy ledge]

i sent you roadmap link

[hybrid cedar]

oh mb

thx

[tardy ledge]

rc is priority

if you can call it that way

[hybrid cedar]

yeah thought so

[empty pine]

Considering alpha 04 will be roughly around next month I'm guessing EA this year is out of the question 😢

[daring hill]

I hope they intentionally delay it

But a lack of new alpha builds recently does not inherently mean a delay

[empty pine]

Well with the lack of an updated roadmap, EA scheduled for Q4 of this year is kinda hard to believe with CA4 coming end of the month or October, that would give them very little time in between the end of the alpha and the Holiday season to address Alpha 4 feedback and release an EA that's stable enough for them to go on Christmas break without having to worry about potential major bugs, but the Roadmap is in need of an update seeing it indicated DRG Survivor 1.0 still TBD and it's next week

[unkempt lagoon]

Has anyone made images about Corespawn Bruisers and Corespawn Vanguards?

[deep skiff]

Perhaps I could do these later on the next alpha test update for the wiki.

[tacit urchin]

Ooh 👀

[upper nest]

Please tell me auto sprint is coming

Please

[pallid beacon]

nah, and as a bonus no automatic guns either. manually fire each shot

carpal tunnel final boss

[urban field]

SO has anyone have an aprox date when rogue core comes out?

[lilac heart]

Q4 2025 is when early access is estimated to release

[urban field]

I am assuming thats between September and december

[lilac heart]

October and December

[urban field]

Sounds good. My money be ready lmao

Probably one of the few games I would actually preorder tbh

[simple cloak]

If it was possible, Rogue Core would be the first game I ever preorder

[signal token]

pre-order? afraid they might run out of digital copies?😆

[main hinge]

Happened to silksong

[karmic seal]

can you send a limited number of rogue core beta invites to people once you get beta access like you could with sonic racing crossworlds?

[simple cloak]

I would do it because I'd buy it anyways so why not put it in the queue to have it bought asap.

[inner granite]

no

[jaunty magnet]

wow fast

[orchid temple]

is there beer in rogue core?

[civic drift]

Yes

[valid perch]

rogue core preorders?
i've had money in my steam wallet specifically for this game for a year now lol

[tall plume]

there won't be preorder for rogue core

[tall plume]

there will be

[inner granite]

But what if steam runs out of binaries to sell??

Resup takes a while

[tacit urchin]

There are simply not enough 1's and 0's to accomodate us all

[pine skiff]

Can we preorder the beer?

[raven wharf]

I accept preorders. Cash only. $60. No refunds.

[chrome basin]

Rogue core runs on U5 right?

[tacit urchin]

It does

[bleak pond]

I need rogue core in my life 🙁

[hard frigate]

Im afraid you’ll have to settle for rouge core

[tranquil rapids]

Is there a specific process of handing out early access, or is it completely random, does anyone know?

[median sleet]

Random people that applied get picked

I think for the first test they targeted English-speaking regions. But all the others have been completely random

[tranquil rapids]

is there a specific thing i can do to apply?

(i have seen the thing saying to click on the request access button but i can't find it. Either im being stupid or is it only there when doing playtests and it isn't there now?)

[finite tundra]

It’s on the steam page for the game and that is the only method(no it should always be there)

[tranquil rapids]

ok, so i am either an idiot or super forgetful (idiot in a different way), thanks for letting me know

[finite tundra]

Don’t worry I share in both forgetful stupidity and partial blindness stupidity

I have missed a button my friend was obviously guiding me towards too many times

[tranquil rapids]

I feel that completely

[gray rivet]

?

[glossy heath]

Have the developers returned to the rogue core, or are we still waiting for everyone to finish going through silsong?

[median yoke]

until rogue core isn't out in doing randowizer missions

[compact shard]

If you already signed up the box changes you "you have signed up for playtest" instead of a button to sign up
It's under the early access message, and above the planned release date one

[tranquil rapids]

thank you, turns out i am foretful idiot

[pine skiff]

Good news, rogue core isn't out so you can't stop drinking randoweisser

[feral fulcrum]

Has anybody noticed that the "Morkite Seeds" in the resonance missions look very similar to Exponite, I wonder if Drg is lying to the dwarves to get them to collect samples before the events of Rogue Core

[willow flame]

I thought about that too

[upper haven]

Can Falconeer have a beard?

[tacit urchin]

No, there isn't a cosmetics system in the game right now

Probably getting implemented soon, ask then

[paper dirge]

I mean in like 90% of dwarf media and games female dwarves can have beards. So I'd be surprised if she couldn't

[cerulean tundra]

Or perhaps Expenite is closely related to Morkite. As in a precursor. Maybe as Expenite moves away from the core (where it mainly forms) it loses “purity” and undergoes a process where it becomes Morkite.

It would explain why DRG’s primary operations on Hoxxes IV revolve around extracting various forms of Morkite. Because even though it isn’t as pure and powerful as Expenite…well it’s still a wonder material, just one that needs a bit more work.

Or perhaps this is just a video game and the creators just put names on gameplay mechanics to tell the player why they are being sent into a bug infested cave to gather a XP mineral.

[feral fulcrum]

I actually really like the idea that Morkite has enough value to be collected only for them to discover a more refined version deeper into the planet. Perhaps its used to create currency or something and the higher the grade the more value similar to diamonds

[cerulean tundra]

It also has explains why the Morkite seeds look like Expenite. The season 5 briefing says that all DRG operations are for the purpose of extracting Morkite in either liquid or crystal form, but R and D theorizes that both solid and liquid forms come from an ‘ancestor’. That leads to them finding the Morkite seeds that they want so that they can find a way to synthesize Morkite for cheaper than sending dwarves with expensive guns and ammo to die. This search for how Morkite forms draws them deeper to planet, and that’s when they find Expenite.

Of course that’s assuming that the current design for Expenite isn’t just a placeholder. Everything in the closed testing (and even the Early Access) is subject to change.

So they might just have no relation and is just a placeholder design.

[compact girder]

is there any news on the price of rogue core

[tall plume]

no

[regal sundial]

3 entire money

[compact girder]

epic thanks

[idle basin]

Very reliable leaker here
It'll probably cost at least one (1) dollar

[compact girder]

ohhh shit seriously?

[opal blaze]

when game?

[idle basin]

In 2

[tall plume]

when it's ready (and when people start reading the pinned messages)

[vagrant gate]

Wait what? Rogue Core is out? Fully out?

[daring hill]

no, its a joke

[golden yew]

yo it’s out

[idle basin]

I already 100% it get on my level smh

[hollow bear]

Fully out of our hands yes 🥲

[compact shard]

Now that my computer is put back together, they can stop delaying the next alpha. Please and thank you

[civic drift]

And u think by announcing it here that will happen 😂

[zenith rock]

Any news on release

[median sleet]

still planned for q4

[daring hill]

In 500 YEARS

[idle basin]

"What will you have in 500 years?"
"I'll still have season 05: drilling deeper"

[compact shard]

Well, yeah. I asked them not to release the alpha until it was back together, and they haven't released another yet. So clearly they're listening.

XD

[mortal flame]

I hope I'm in Rouge Core

[rocky garden]

🟥

[chrome basin]

will the rogue core?

[tacit urchin]

He's in rogue core :(

[chrome basin]

will steve be in rogue core?

[tall plume]

no

[chrome basin]

: (

[shut aurora]

how long did it take for yall to get an email to access the early access?

[pale blaze]

I’ve heard that you don’t get such an email, but I don’t actually know as I haven’t gotten in

Assuming you meant closed alpha, people with wishlist will probably get an email within 24h when early access goes live

[tacit urchin]

I got into with an email

Honestly, emails might've been a 1 time thing right at the start of the closed alpha

But don't take it from me

[pale blaze]

2 unreliable sources give conflicting answers, more at 5

[shadow delta]

any release date for early access?

[raven wharf]

pinned messages

[raven wharf]

go request access on steam and await random selection like everyone else

[random laurel]

I don't think it works like that

[visual kestrel]

so it was just my luck to literally not get into a SINGLE ONE of the playtests, so anyone know when the next one is?

Big sad

[visual latch]

To be fair, the chances per playtest are rather small, and there have only been, what, three runs?

Besides being confirmed, we don't know when the next (and last? Or did I misremember that) run is

[trim pelican]

i mean, didnt they say that early access would be towards the end of the year? it's practically fall

[pine skiff]

The first wave had some additional invites to people who expressed interest through the newsletter (hence via email), but all other waves have been through Steam only

[simple cloak]

Rah rogue core rahh

[steady holly]

is there like an ETA for when rouge core becomes publicly available?

[median sleet]

q4

[steady holly]

nice, far away sadly but nice

[undone notch]

What about Alex the core spawn?

[wind cave]

blockhead

[misty vortex]

I have no rogue core and I must play it

[jaunty magnet]

drg:survivor satisfies my roguish core in the absence of rogue core for now

[tacit urchin]

I just devoted my life to a cult in the woods. Yes, I have access to Rogue Core and no, this had nothing to do with this, it's just that the widespread insanity due to Rogue Core's absence has gotten to me

[cobalt ridge]

Having access is overrated, just wait for the full game
Shrimple

Whenever that is

[wet holly]

Shrimpieeee

[prisma elm]

yall think a new wave might come out next week?

[olive hound]

Hope so

I want to try the game first before buying it.

[crisp bloom]

You can try the Game for two hours and Return it in steam

[prisma elm]

the devs are silent cause i just revealed their timeline

[blissful geyser]

If I recall correctly, they said there would likely be a new update "before October"

[sleek swallow]

wait till it turns out to be october 2026

[simple cloak]

Tomorrow

[clear igloo]

rouge core is coming in 7 years

trust

[vestal patio]

Rouge core isn't coming out

It's a hoax

It doesn't exist

[rocky garden]

Yeah rouge core fs isn't coming out, but rogue core might

[rain wigeon]

I'm just waiting to see what new items and stuff they got for us.

Rogue Core is gonna be so great to run with friends

[raven wharf]

Personally I hope performance is continually worked on and I have no reason to believe it won’t be. It’s a little rough hosting with 3 others compared to DRG.

[finite silo]

is the engine and stuff for rogue core the same as drg or is it completely different like survivor

[median sleet]

it's unreal 5, drg is running 4

[finite silo]

hm

what about the art style

[median sleet]

pretty much the same

[main spear]

you can check out sniss' video where he plays falconeer

[bright skiff]

how to get early access to the game? I really want to play. I've been waiting for an invitation to test the game since the first days of the Steam page

[stable spindle]

It’s completely luck based I think

[rare dune]

anyone heard any news on the next wave?

[sand vale]

I kinda doubt theres gonna be one
Game is theoretically close to ea release in the coming month or two

[median sleet]

they said they're hoping for playtest 4 in late september/ early october

[neat acorn]

rogue core tomorrow

[dim venture]

Rogue core tmw!!!

[thin siren]

Tomorrow really? Why?

[neat acorn]

(I am spreading misinformation)

[gilded rock]

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?

[subtle zenith]

ei people

when they give access to the beta?

is there a date set?

oh, okey tomorrow it seems

the things that makes reading past logs

[tacit urchin]

There's no beta

You should check the pinned messages, specifically the living roadmap

[quartz zephyr]

Rogue core yesterday

[rich river]

silksong wouldn't be so hyped up either if people didnt say tomorrow tomorrow

[main hinge]

rogure core

uhh

next month

[neat acorn]

big if true

[subtle zenith]

so closed alpha at the end of september and early october

it must fall very soon, i know they invited spanish streamers too

[rare glacier]

when will rogue core be for open beta?

or the next wave for me to sign up

[simple cloak]

You should’ve signed up ages ago

[spark lance]

rogue core tomorrow

(i wish)

[native monolith]

The correct term would be “disinformation”, being the purposeful spread of lies

Misinformation is the accidental spread of lies

Anyways, rouge core news tomorrow!!!

[unreal carbon]

i hope on it

[tacit urchin]

Everytime somebody says "Rouge Core" the release gets put off by another day

[jaunty magnet]

rough core

[compact shard]

Ruego Cero news tomorrow!

[zenith rock]

they said the same aboult silksong and look what happened

[tacit urchin]

Yeah, well

[rocky garden]

In that case we're already at 656 days

[subtle zenith]

rouge core

[rocky garden]

Search rouge core in rogue-core-chat

[subtle zenith]

2632 in the whole server

[rocky garden]

Welp hope we're all okay with waiting a little over 7 years

Hopefully my grandkids will get to play

[stuck shell]

damm

[rare glacier]

i mean i requested access to the playtest a while ago , hopefully that’s what you’re talking about

[simple cloak]

Yeah but you said, “or the next wave for me to sign up” so I thought you were waiting to sign up for playtest

[manic sleet]

drink some randoweisser to cure the urge for rogue core

[rare glacier]

no yeah i just thought they had a diff “sign up “ method i had to do so i got confused

[rare glacier]

real

[olive hound]

No RC today?

[old swift]

nope

[olive hound]

Thank you mod

Was about to ping

[blissful geyser]

Do not ping the moderators to see if there is rogue core news

[tall plume]

they didn't, there was a bot

[blissful geyser]

O I see

That makes more sense

[median sleet]

Is there Rogue Core news?

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-23464742

[shrewd meteor]

this was a lie?

[hollow bear]

Rough Gourd

[raven wharf]

The news is there's no news

[tacit urchin]

Rogue Core is nothing but a concept, a spawn of our minds.

[neat acorn]

how many rocktoberfest beer mugs for a rogue core invite

[lost tapir]

rogue core was actually a case of mass hysteria this whole time

[cobalt vigil]

the mandela effect

it was just survivors this whole time there was never a rogue core

[hollow bear]

Survivor is actually an anagram for Rogue Core

[silent lynx]

Every single time I get a ping for DRG survivors my disappointment is immeasurable simply because it is not rogue core

[sterile igloo]

Is rouge core being worked on at all?

[cobalt vigil]

well now itll be an extra day

[median sleet]

yeah

[sterile igloo]

True but a little transparency would be nice

[tulip python]

They do monthly updates

[sterile igloo]

Lmfao you're right I just missed all of them apparently

[raven wharf]

Nope, they stopped development when they realized they misspelled all of the game files.

[keen jetty]

I ate it sorry

[sterile igloo]

Your greed sickens me

[compact shard]

My soul yearns for Rogue Core news

What kind of animal I gotta sacrifice to get it

[median sleet]

10 million lootbugs

[tacit urchin]

Uh, you got a sheep?

[cobalt vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/tfs-teamfourstar-dbza-dragonball-z-abridged-dragon-ball-z-gif-24732947

[tacit urchin]

Every three days I dream of Rogue Core...

[cobalt vigil]

only every three?

[tight yew]

sadly i dont like playing alone but the lobbies are always empty and i cant get a hold of anyone to play

[cobalt vigil]

i would happily play solo if i could DX

[neat acorn]

no, it's a psyop

[muted sorrel]

I kid you not i unironically had a dream where if I did challenges in drg with unique weapons I'd get access to rogue core

[tacit urchin]

Didn't you write that somewhere already?

[muted sorrel]

yes

[tacit urchin]

Unless we're both mental

Oh, good

[muted sorrel]

Pfft

[fading ermine]

they dropped the files in my food bowl and I ated it

I made a meme for this reply but I can't send it </3

just imagine that one full of milk puppy meme but it says full of rogue core files and you got the idea

[rare glacier]

sipping too much of those glyphid slammers eh

[muted sorrel]

ROGUE CORE IS REAL I TELL YOU

[proven current]

momma always said a rogue core a day'll keep you straight...

[cinder depot]

Hi all, anyone knows when the ea is going to be released?

[raven wharf]

Pinned messages

[cinder depot]

How i check that?

[visual latch]

If you're on mobile, press then channel name then the "Pins" tab

On PC, should be a 📌 icon on the top bar

[subtle zenith]

today is a good day to go rogue

[verbal shadow]

just did a match myself

I've always wondered, what is the point of collecting the security cameras? Are they meant to go toward something that isn't yet in the game?

[tall plume]

they're for the current meta upgrade tree

[verbal shadow]

The Enhancements?

[tall plume]

yes

[vestal patio]

rogue core playtest is today???

[tall plume]

No

[tacit urchin]

No, but if you wish hard enough

Just maybe

[vestal patio]

maybe

[subtle zenith]

may

[prisma elm]

what do guys think ab there being a mini boss before u leave every stage, sorta like in some rogue lites, for example like in enter the gungeon

[violet violet]

rather neat idea

put it in #rogue-core-suggestions

[prisma elm]

NO !

[tacit urchin]

Okay?

[chrome basin]

There’s 98 days left in 2025 so there’s a 1.02% chance for rogue core to release in early access tomorrow (this chance increases linearly per day)

You can’t deny math

[median yoke]

gulp

[rare glacier]

it’s okay man you can cry on my shoulder at the abyss bar 😞

[chrome basin]

No time to cry when by the end of this month there will be a 6.12% chance (increasing linearly per day) to hit the mines of hoxxes again. We need to be ready

[shy glen]

I know its a joke but thats not how math works

To any lurkers reading this

[violet violet]

i feel like spongebob in sandy's treedome waiting for this game dude I NEED IT

[cobalt vigil]

Yeah I love drg but I've been playing roguelikes since the original 3 map demo of the first ror so combining the 2 is like a dream for me

[violet violet]

DUDE SAME

i remember that demo so well

[cobalt vigil]

Headstompers was the strongest item in that demo iirc

[pure vessel]

We are planning to have optional mini-boss like events at some point.

[daring hill]

had a dream about a new blog post for a build revealing whats been added

thats how you know shit is getting crazy

I also dreamt that GSG changed their mind on melee and actually added melee weapons

[tacit urchin]

That's mental

[tall plume]

thank god it was just a dream

[daring hill]

idk I think more melee weapons would be nice

sure, this game is no darktide/vermintide, but more than a pickaxe would be cool

[tall plume]

I think actual melee feeling in DRG would be dogshit, not gonna lie

the game just isn't build for it IMO

[daring hill]

what? no, melee in rogue core feels really damn good

even without any upgrades

[tall plume]

you mean the pickaxe ?

[daring hill]

it feels nice and its reasonably powerful at base form

[tacit urchin]

The pickaxe is your main tool, it's supposed to feel good

[tall plume]

it's serviceable for combat but it doesn't work well as a main weapon still

[daring hill]

yeah, im genuinely unsure where you are getting the perception that it feels dogshit in rogue core, unless you thought I was talking about DRG here

[tall plume]

It is dogshit, it's only "good" right now because of busted combo that make you virtually immortal

but that's not the pickaxe itself being good

[tacit urchin]

60 damage is pretty good though

[daring hill]

i still maintain that it feels really good to use

[tacit urchin]

But it doesn't really feel like a weapon, more like a tool with an option for murder

[daring hill]

and I think it would be an utter shame for melee combat to still be treated as like, some random fun thing you try for shits and giggles, rather than something worth pursuing

like it's not something you should ever seriously use

and actually being viable is a genuine mistake in balance

[tall plume]

I don't think melee is gonna work as a serious way to deal damage on its own unless many things have been drastically altered in the game - which isn't impossible, just very unlikely

[daring hill]

i dont think i've seen a proper argument against melee combat being developed on beyond:

1. GSG doesn't want to, so its not worth talking about
2. slicer exists (which feels like a nothing argument IMO)

3. What you just said while I was typing this out, which I would like to see you elaborate on if you can

[tall plume]

sure, gimme 5min

[daring hill]

heres how melee feels to me: in its base form, its useful for the basic enemies that are the grunt replacements, but obviously falls short with harder enemies. get some upgrades in you and it gets much better IMO

for now melee is best on slicer, but only because the melee bio-boosters are exclusive to him

its making him the best melee option through artificial means

hes not the best option for melee combat because his ability serves well to boosting and hooking onto upgrades that do things on melee hits/kills, its mainly because he's given all the melee energy drinks

[tall plume]

What I mean by that is the following :

If I'm to pull out an example of a roguelite FPS with actual melee combat working decently well, I'm just gonna use Roboquest (because it's an amazing game and I actually have experience with it). Despite being a shooter first and foremost, melee gameplay works because of a few things.

• It's a solo game at heart, and even in co-op there is no friendly fire/damage blocked by friendlies so no co-op friction.
• The game is very fast paced, which gives you all the movement and speed you need to get to melee with enemies before they have a chance to shoot you down. DRG/RC is obviously quite different in that regard since enemies are mostly melee, but...
• All flying enemies don't have erratic movement and are always in reach, thanks to all the movement option. DRG and RC don't have that luxury of giving you insane movement (you can get some movement option, but it's never gonna feel like you're that agile) and ranged enemies have erratic movement, are fast and are likely to stick to walls and ceilings, which can be very high, making melee weapons an even less appealing option
• All melee attacks in DRG have somewhat a long range still, to allow for multiple melee enemies to strike you at once, to make swarms of enemies actually dangerous. This makes melee extremely hard to pull off without being slapped around at every occasion. Rogue Core can somewhat alleviate that due to upgrades and meta-upgrades, but that means you can't really start with a melee weapon and hope to do well in a run (don't forget ranged enemies still exist tooà

Even if they were to change some of these things, it means all weapons are gonna need some AoE component to even have a chance to perform decently well, and at this point it's just the energy blade of Slicer but without a cooldown (and less damage, I imagine).

[subtle zenith]

DRG is pretty much shot and run, the idea of melee is that you stay on the place or otherwise have a lot of mobility and you risk to take a lot of damage. IDK how rogue would go, but if it's the same it's hard to make a system that let's you stay close range with enemies without putting your life on it. It should need quick time events or smt crazy like that to make skill-full and less risky without breaking the multiplayer dynamics.
Also because DRG is designed more around cooperation, making something similar to a tank breaks the balance power or dynamics between players making some roles more important than others.

the only thing i can think of is charge melee attack powers and deal increased damage once in a while and replace the empowered attacks with that but with more damage, lower cooldown and the need to be charged

[finite silo]

if i had a credit for every time a roguelike game had rogue in the name..

[cobalt vigil]

Deep rock galactic : rouge core

[rare briar]

Deep rogue galactic : rock core

[chrome basin]

deep rock core: galactic boogaloo

[rocky garden]

Reek dop lagactic: cogue rore

[spark lance]

why did i feel the vibe that you played roboquest

definitely love the comparison though

[pure vessel]

I wish. We're plotting sneaking in some if Mike doesn't notice.

[tall plume]

[violet mason]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2605790/view/544495527868236465

EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT

[lilac heart]

Cool. So I was right in a way, but for all the wrong reasons give me all the street cred. I like how the new suit designs look - Falconer especially.

[mossy ruin]

good read

[neat acorn]

ohh the battle rifle audio is great

[old swift]

i really like all the new class looks

i also actually like (what i assume is untextured) the cave background in the weapon inspect video

[tacit urchin]

Playtest 4 around my birthday?

[hollow bear]

Zero aaronpog emotes for damn near two hours smh

[fiery prairie]

The new armor models look great but noticed that Spotter and Retcon were the only ones that still had their respective head gear in the images so I gotta ask: are the other's helmets getting the same treatment?

[remote terrace]

I like the new designs

I'm hoping we can choose gender per class though, for maximum personalisation

[gilded rock]

Ramrod Toilets. We haven’t actually made progress here but I’m hoping if I can sneak this part into the Steam post then I can nudge us to work on the toilets some more hehe
👁️👁️

[median yoke]

omg new rogue core dev post

I need more.. to feed my interior core

[subtle zenith]

im waiting to play with a friend this game after years of not playing together

[rare glacier]

is rogue core early access still expected to be released towards the end of 2025?

[tall plume]

until given different news, yes

[prisma elm]

what do u guys think the class synergy skills should be?

i’m having a hard time thinking what they could be, if they would utilize the same weapons they have, like slicers blade being used in a different way, or would it be a whole new tool

[tall plume]

wdym by that ?

[prisma elm]

they said they’re adding two unique skills to each class

[tall plume]

ah gotcha

[tacit urchin]

No, like the regular DRG skills

Or at least that's what it sounds like

[tall plume]

I'm assuming the guardian has nothing new since he already had two skills

unless they've changed something for him

[olive narwhal]

I was sorta hoping they would have made unique abilities instead of sticking dash on slicer

[prisma elm]

they mentioned how it would have synergy with the other classes, similar to how in drg the abilities of the classes work together, but the thing is they already added that stuff in (ie zipline, platform gun etc) that’s why i’m hoping it’ll be some cool unique things special to the character

[median yoke]

I literally just came up with this one, but say Falconeer being able to use it's falcon to follow a marked player and protect them in a set range

in difference of the normal way, this one would deal maybe more stun and preserve more shots

probably not real tbh but just a random thought

[normal crystal]

I've been told the classes got redesigns?

[tall plume]

check the pinned message for the last news

[glass cedar]

im def gonna main slicer

[raven wharf]

There’s currently 4 classes with a fifth coming soon. You’re self eliminating 80% of the classes.

[fluid breach]

Any new invite wave today?

[prisma elm]

no, in approx 3 weeks, which is gonna feel like an eternity lol

[delicate flax]

rog

[idle root]

feel like i've been sitting here waiting to be called next for a big event that i'll never be a part of lmao

[rare briar]

Do any of you think they'll expand on abandoned structures not as something of value to the player but just for aethetics and world build not so much world building tho

[tacit urchin]

They've already done that before, so the chances are high

[rare glacier]

dwarf life in a nutshell

[idle root]

At this point, I've given up being accepted into the playtest

[verbal pine]

i have 4 keys and im eating them

[rough stirrup]

How likely is it that there are like milions of people waiting for a key

[tall plume]

millions ? not very likely

[rough stirrup]

Wb at least two

[trim pelican]

i just hope that the Open Beta/Early Access/Whatever relevant term is before 2026

[tall plume]

since we don't have any news regarding release, the pinned roadmap for Q4 2025 for EA release is still relevant

[compact shard]

If the next alpha is October 30th I will die of fright

[maiden carbon]

It feels weird to see dwarves in the DRG universe that aren’t comically ugly

[chrome basin]

Wait the falconer wasn’t going to be a female dwarf? Or it was just fake news?

[tall plume]

it is a female dwarf, yes

[chrome basin]

The new redesign makes her look more like a dude than the older one lul

[tall plume]

Lots of people seem to have completely skipped over the sentence literally before the picture

The facial models/hair/headgear you see here aren't necessarily representative of the character, this is just to show the armor suits.

[chrome basin]

Oh hell my bad

[maiden carbon]

I’m not saying it’s bad at all. Just so strange after looking at the DRG dwarfs for so long

[dapper sun]

Ok dumb question: Is the playtest still currently going or has it ended?

[tacit urchin]

Still going

[subtle zenith]

as humans we can't differentiate females dwarves from male dwarves

[upper haven]

Is the beersquid it's own character or is it just an extension of Omega?

[urban field]

I'm honestly debating with myself if Rouge core is gonna either be more or less popular

Then deep rock

[tall plume]

only time will tell

I'm guessing less popular, but who knows

[mossy ruin]

and I'll be a contrarian, and say the rogueliteness will carry it's popularity

but maybe I overestimate the popualrity of the genre in current times, maybe the golden age is over

[urban field]

It honestly has more potential to be more popular the drg

[tall plume]

it's also gonna be harder than DRG overall

[urban field]

Yep

I don't think difficulty is a bad thing though

[urban field]

It will definitely be more popular with content creators which means the game may have more players by proxy

Deep rock has definitely hit a ceiling though. It's a timeless game imo but there isn't much room left for improvement and I would be ok with the game being sunsetted

I do think rogue core may actually be just as good if not better then deep rock though. Just in its own way

[raven wharf]

DRGS has a higher peak player count than DRG and has sold very well. I expect RC to be a slow burn like DRG.

But I also expect a very chaotic opening weekend

[carmine zenith]

with all the people key begging it'll probably be a busy weekend

[raven wharf]

And lots of people expecting one thing and getting another

I’m going to bind “git gud” or some variation to a key.

[teal mica]

I do think there will probably a little shell shock on launch in regards to the difficulty.

[dapper sun]

Every mission being timed doesn't sound great, but I'm still very interested.

[tall plume]

definitely gonna happen

[pure vessel]

Yeah that happens a lot when you're new to the game, but it gets better.

We're still tweaking the difficulty, seeing which handles we can turn, but I think that if you take the current build, we'll add a difficulty before facility 1 and between 2 and 3.

Making difficulty less steep.

The important thing about the difficulty to me IMO is that it helps the experience of getting better, stronger, etc.

It's more fun.

[compact shard]

I hope there's an October developer statement this week. Would love to see how the game is getting along

[raven wharf]

You literally got a thorough update three days ago

[signal moon]

thanks for deleting my message

and I thought u cared about your copmmunity smh

[tall plume]

We do not allow for e-begging within the discord - besides, invites do not work for RC so it was irrelevant anyway.

[signal moon]

its not begging if I simply ask someone to add me

thats not how begging works

but fine whatever

[hard frigate]

Anyone else see the halo magnum in the newly teased machine pistol?

[tacit urchin]

Yeah, kinda. I think it's the absurdly giant trigger guard and magazine + magazine holder that make the magnum-like shape of the slide and foregrip

[magic light]

Difficulty during the early hours of a game with meta progression makes the meta progression rewarding, there's nothing wrong here;
If people don't understand the concept of Roguelikelite (sigh) gameplay, you're not to blame guys ♥

[cobalt ridge]

except rc isnt a roguelike

[tacit urchin]

sigh... Roguelite?

[cobalt ridge]

more like it, yeah
unfortunately a lot of people categorize games that arent one, as roguelike

[magic light]

It's not the point

[tacit urchin]

I can't blame people for it, and never would

[magic light]

The issue here is that people expect that during the first two hours of the game, they can experience the game in it's complete dimension, just so they can refund if needed. But that's not how all the games work.

[tacit urchin]

Don't worry, it was just more-so a friendly nudge, your point is very clear

[magic light]

It's totally fine, I don't mind being corrected when the point is relevant, and I admit that I'm making this mistake too often; I'm just sorry I wasn't clear nor pertinent enough for someone to point this part of my message rather than the idea behind it 🤷

[vast moss]

is there gonna be a blog post this month

[tall plume]

most likely

[tacit urchin]

No, Aaron isn't feeling it

[vast moss]

damn

[tacit urchin]

I know, I miss his witty texts

[tacit urchin]

Okay, but seriously. The september post is out already

[vast moss]

did it release recently?

[tacit urchin]

3-4 days ago?

[vast moss]

ok

ima check it out then

[jade lotus]

Hey miners, I would like to ask a question and if someone has answer, I appreciate that. Is there any date, when rogue core will come out or to early access?

[tall plume]

pinned messages for roadmap

[teal mica]

To be clear, this was not even remotely a complaint. I just personally think the style of a mission is different enough that it will trip up quite a few folks coming from DRG. In DRG, it's fairly common to do everything in a mission before extracting. In RC, you won't always (often?) be able to. And attempting to is going to lead to a lot dying and failed missions in the early days as the community as a whole adjusts to the roguelite style of RC. Again - I do not think this is a bad thing. Just different.

[raven wharf]

They’ll adapt or they won’t

[tall plume]

well it is supposed to be different so that's definitely a plus here

[jaunty magnet]

mmMmm, that difficulty seems appetizing

[rare briar]

I think not being able to do everything is just fine

[olive hound]

I think not being able to do everything is just fine x2

[daring hill]

No, the goblins have captured him.

Happens to the best of us

[urban field]

Yeah I am not expecting a helldivers scenario where the game is gonna get 400k players with minimal advertising, and truth be told tbh I am dreading a situation like that cause that's a 1 way ticket for the deep rock community to rot

Though it is likely the game is gonna have a slow burn in player increases like DRG, just not in a way DRG had to cause rogue core is being proped up by DRG. DRG had to build its foundation from scratch

[compact shard]

I didn't actually see that

[daring hill]

tbh quite frankly I hold no sympathy to those begging for invites

its very likely at this point that about 10k people have access right now, but you'd NEVER know that

so either the vast majority of invites or going to bot accounts/total randoms, or maybe most people who whine about not having access don't actually care about playing the game!

[shadow delta]

I care about playing it. I haven't begged for an invite either but I requested access the same day the video went live talking about closed Alpha. I own both deep rock games and now I'm just waiting for the EA release. Cause I've given up hope on getting an alpha key.
So when is the EA release date? xD

[shadow delta]

I havent played the game but this sounds fun Id rather have more than enough to do than too little.

[old swift]

ea is still planned for this year

[urban field]

I got an invite RIGHT when I was going to Britain

Haven't really had the opportunity to play again though I would like to

[pulsar lark]

When will the next beta be? I want them to accept me so I can try it, and who or what type of people do they accept?

[visual latch]

The most recent dev diary speaks about it (pinned)

[simple cloak]

tomorrow

[tall plume]

the most likely explanation is that the vast majority of people who got the invite do not go on reddit/discord

though that's just true in general. Despite having multiple millions of players throughout its life for DRG, we've only ever seen a fraction of people's general opinion on the game.

the majority of the player base is always silent

[daring hill]

This isnt about people being silent vs talking, its about the fact that despite invites being in the thousands, only 262 people have ever played the game at any single time

Assuming that most invites dont just go to bot accounts/totally uninterested people who request an invite for no reason, my natural conclusion is that most people who get an invite almost instantly drop the game

So im not terribly sympathetic to those who haven't gotten a key, when there's a good chance they won't stick around if they do

[subtle zenith]

i would beg to get invited tbh

[unreal carbon]

i need this game asap

[pure vessel]

Agreed. I think that's why we need to ease players in so they learn the mechanics, before we tell them to master them.

So we're aware of it and want to see what we can accomplish.

[waxen girder]

hello, are they still inviting people to the tests? I think they forgot about me 😄

[simple cloak]

All my past attempts at congratulating my future self for getting into the play test have failed. I guess congratulations to my future self for playing the early access 🎉 🥳

[dim sage]

Hi. I heard about rogue core some time back. How is it different from DRG ?

[delicate grail]

I thought about this will DRG itself still be worked on and given content when Rogue Core releases?

[tall plume]

check the pinned roadmap

[tall plume]

I think the best answer to this is just reading the store page. It has a FAQ and a general presentation of the game

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2605790/Deep_Rock_Galactic_Rogue_Core/

Steam

Deep Rock Galactic: Rogue Core

DEEP ROCK GALACTIC: ROGUE CORE is a spinoff of Deep Rock Galactic with a roguelite twist. The roguelite element means you start each mission with only the most basic equipment, and cooperatively build up powers, weapons and abilities as you go. Each run requires you to think on your feet and work with your team to put together the most powerful…

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

[dim sage]

I thank thee

[summer ferry]

just read a comment on the 4 year anniversary stream

"I really hope you guys make another CO-OP game if you do make a new game 😁"

I hope that guy sees RC :)

[summer ferry]

I hope we get a dual flamethrower weapon in RC, just as a nod to the base game

[indigo bough]

I just found out about this game

I am so freaking excited

[median sleet]

Mobile phone version when?

[tall plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367223355994013698/1329094193561468989/image0.gif

[indigo bough]

Survivor is coming to mobile. Currently I stream from my pc to phone. Hopefully the mobile version will support cross-save

[tall plume]

he knows, don't worry
also no, it's not cross save

though, I'm not sure if steam can port saves on mobile, but I don't see why not

[bleak beacon]

Are we getting more or less foul language than DRG?

[tall plume]

I think you should expect it to be on the same level

[bleak beacon]

Slightly sad as you would expect the elite mercenaries to swear more, but understandable as it makes the game more accessible

[buoyant nexus]

My mind thinks of violent things all of a sudden

[robust yoke]

i just saw the september roadmap now and wow the reclaimer armor

[dusky badger]

i am here @upper nest

[upper nest]

So this is absolutely a hot take

But I'm not the most confident in this game

From what I've played, nothing has really jumped out, except for the roguelike coop experience

[dusky badger]

yeah i think the only reason i enjoy this game is because it's drg, not because it actually does anything great with the roguelite gameplay

i find that most of the roguelite elements are quite surface level so far

you have all these various ways of improving your character in theory but it barely makes you feel stronger in the end. from my experience, the average power scaling throughout a run was kinda negligible? i never felt significantly stronger than i do in deep rock. and that's not to say i wasn't dealing more damage, but it feels essentially the exact same to me

and from what i'm inferring from information about the new update, they arent really improving the game in the directions i'd like it to go. just recently the devs revealed that there are now "100 new perks", but they're still all just stat changes, and the more involved perks are being relegated to a seperate system. i think this kinda dillutes the game with too many systems.

now look to deep rock galactic and somehow that game has more unique gameplay alterations you can do

you can turn the breach cutter into a stationary death field or make the wave cooker generate weakspots on enemies.

none of this stuff is, at the moment, possible in rogue core. nothing of this caliber. and i think this is extremely crucial to get right early on, because if there is no real tangible hook to the gameplay loop other than directly dealing more dps, then i dont think this game has much longevity for a lot of people

[raven wharf]

you're comparing an alpha product to one that has been receiving constant updates for several years

[dusky badger]

🤯

yeah i'm comparing what exists and what i can see and experience instead of assuming it gets better

it could definitely get better

[raven wharf]

DRG was in this barebones state when it entered early access

[upper nest]

I'm unsure if overclocks are gonna be in Rogue Core, but it would be one of the things I would bring back

It absolutely works for this format and it brings exciting stuff

[dusky badger]

yeah this game 10000000000000000000% lacks that kind of system

[upper nest]

It wouldn't feel forced either

[dusky badger]

it isn't forced it's literally just what a roguelite is meant to do

give you gameplay variety every time

i would love that

[raven wharf]

Overclocks are redundant compared to the in mission weapon upgrades.

[upper nest]

The returning weapons feel a smidge forced if you what I mean

[dusky badger]

the in-mission weapon upgrades are lame as hell to be frank

and less inventive than drg's overclocks

like i'll just be blunt

that's what ithink

[raven wharf]

They aren’t finished?

[dusky badger]

😭

yes they're not finished

but again

this is what i can readily experience

honestly it wouldnt have to be a seperate overclock system

honest to got they could rework the weapon upgrade stations to just give those overclock-like effects instead of +20% damage

[raven wharf]

There's a mismatch between your expectations and where the game currently is in development.

[dusky badger]

i think that'd be interesting

[dusky badger]

well yeah of course

it's an alpha

i know this

i'm giving my general thoughts

[tall plume]

i think this kinda dillutes the game with too many systems.
I don't follow this. You say everything is too surface level but then you say there are too many systems which dilute the game.

[bleak beacon]

Take this persons Alpha key away, they are undeserving
|| /s becuase feedback is the point of these things ||

[dusky badger]

it's 5 miles wide and a foot deep

that's what i meant

and yes i know that it's an alpha

[tall plume]

What would create depth, for you ?

[dusky badger]

man i could go on

[tall plume]

go ahead, I'm genuinely trying to understand your POV

[upper nest]

That's not what I'm really talking about

Even in a barebores state you could see what made drg special, at least in my eyes. I played the legacy build and I still a had soild time ( might not be the most accurate representation of what drg was at the time, but still)

[bleak beacon]

Probably a bit of rose tinted nostalgia going on there

[upper nest]

I played in 2023

Idk if that's nostalgia talking

[bleak beacon]

So you played the game in it's near current completed state before trying the early access?

[cobalt ridge]

wasnt drg considered complete in about 2020

[upper nest]

I was curious about how it was back then, I knew that it was going to be a rough experience but it was still able to captivate me with it's mechanics (time, resource management, the gunplay wasn't as good as now but it still felt soild

[dusky badger]

okay, so honestly as i've said too many times by now, there is a crazy amount of upgrades which just directly / conditionally change your stats. this is normal in a roguelite, but here... they're not really counterbalanced by anything of substance. sure, there are some things that attempt to be more mechanically interesting, but they fall flat because they don't really have any juice or they're kind of negligible or small bonuses.

your gun looks the same the whole run, your character looks the same the whole run, your bullets look the same the whole run. all that changes are the damage popups and maybe spawning red sugar when you hit an enemy. that's all that i can really feel by the end of the run.

sure, you could say that conditionally increasing your damage when doing specific actions kinda adds depth and strategy, but it's just not fun when it's essentially all the game is.

sure, you could say that inflicting cold to enemies near you is "different" from that, but this is about as inventive as anything here gets.

Let's look at the rarest items in the game: ALL of them just change your stats. gold ones, artifacts, purple ones. the three rarest tiers do nothing but make you deal more damage directly.

but this isnt even the end of the world - i think this would be fine if the damage were obscured behind some cool effects - look at risk of rain 2, it technically has like 15 items that basically just increase your damage, but they're masked behind being rockets, bombs you attach to enemies, lava pillars you spawn and more. it's at least visually appealing. it trades mechanical depth and strategy for spectacle, and people LOVE it for the spectacle. but in this game you kinda get neither honestly.

and yes, again, i know that this is an alpha and all this is up to change

no need to remind me

[tall plume]

yes

[dusky badger]

oops nevermind one of the gold items isnt a stat changer

immunity buffer

that was false slander

that said a lot of people enjoy the game and clearly have no problem with these things and i respect that

i think the game is great in several areas

and i obviously nowhere near hate the game, otherwise i wouldnt be taking my time to critique it even if my critique is probably flawed

[tall plume]

Yeah, I'm gonna be fair, I'm still not getting it.

Some of that criticism here is cosmetics - which is up to everyone's taste (most roguelite don't have the style of Risk of Rain 2, which you seem to be comparing RC with a lot from what I can read).
Some of it doesn't make sense, mostly the:

but it's just not fun when it's essentially all the game is.
which I don't get, because yeah, that's what roguelites are about (growing stronger than the game), just like FPS are essentially just shooting at enemies.

From what I can read, you want the spectacle and the power fantasy of RoR2 to be ported over to RC, but that's not gonna work in a multiplayer focused game - for obvious reasons.

It's not wrong to want this but it's just an expectation that's never gonna be met

[dusky badger]

i mean yeah it's not going in that direction so it prolly isnt gonna happen

but i dont think it's fair to say that this is fully excused just cause there's other roguelite games that just tweak your stats

[tall plume]

Just imagine the balance and visual nightmare it would be, not even accounting for performance issues

[dusky badger]

okay im not saying it should be the level of visuals as ror2 lol

to clarify

[tall plume]

still, there's only so much you can give to the spectacle when you have relatively small spaces for 4 players

[dusky badger]

im just saying that at the very least i want stuff to change something. so that i can shoot my gun once and be able to tell that i have some specific awesome upgrade on it yknow?

[tall plume]

I get that part yeah

[dusky badger]

currently it's like

oh yeah i deal more damage yippee

[tall plume]

I think it'll be coming, just not priority for now over making actual systems

[dusky badger]

i do think it should legit be of high priority because it's what a lot of people love about these games

seeing yourself get stronger

your progress

[tall plume]

currently, we have the visual effect on the gun model itself, which is a start

I've been making suggestions for legendary gun upgrades to be actual gun modification - yes, like overclocks

[dusky badger]

i think the devs have talked about making elemental bullets have elemental vfx on them which is a good step imo

more of that shit

[bleak beacon]

Form always follows function, there's a little architecture based titbit of information for you

[young vessel]

what if there was an upgrade where you could shoot a corespawn in the eye and they hold it and go "owie wowie" for 3 seconds

[tacit urchin]

Of course an interesting read ends with... whatever this is

[tall plume]

and we're still at the "we're defining functions" part

[dusky badger]

wdym

[tall plume]

except many things to change over the years anyway

Karl knows DRG did

[dusky badger]

well yes i know but some of this stuff i find to be kinda essential in a roguelite for it to be very enjoyable

[young vessel]

ok well what if they just said "ow"

[tall plume]

Can't wait for the enhancement system to be entirely scrapped and redone at some point

[dusky badger]

is that the thing with the station where you squeeze the thingy and it pops

[tall plume]

that's the only current meta-upgrade system we have

[dusky badger]

oh wait you mean perks

[tacit urchin]

What were you thinking about?

[tall plume]

I've suggested a few to the devs but I don't have knowledge on what they plan for the future regarding meta-upgrades

[teal mica]

But we lost Barrel Armor....

[bleak beacon]

Get things working properly and meshing well together before working on the visual style of anything

[dusky badger]

well i said my thing on that already then

[olive narwhal]

i would for sure like for the class abilities to not just be copied over from drg as it is currently(dash,born ready, deep pockets and so on)

[tall plume]

that was just placeholder

[bleak beacon]

i find to be kinda essential in a roguelite for it to be very enjoyable
This? Because it's not about that at the moment, getting the core gameplay loop fleshed out is most important at the moment

[tall plume]

I only expect dash to stay from these

[olive narwhal]

i would like dash to get changed a bit if it sticks make it atleast some what more interesting

[upper nest]

Also another take

Just add auto sprint please for the love of God you are in an alpha stage you can balance things if you really need to

Especially since dash is dead

[tall plume]

yeah, I don't think it's happening sadly

[upper nest]

GODDDD

That's incrediblely disappointing

[teal mica]

I have zero problem saying this - That's incredibly disappointing and frustrating. And it is antagonistic game design.

[upper nest]

That might be the only thing that I find just completely baffling

[young vessel]

they'll have a better reason than last time, chatgpt has improved a bit

[upper nest]

They better

So real quick, I've playing a brand new roguelike game that i've been really addicted to

I personally feel that the way that game handles progression could maybe be translated to here a bit

It's called Mortal Sin

It also has just basic stat upgrades, but it also has upgrades that buff certain actions, like running, your melee attacks, healing, just about everything you can interact with.

And in interesting ways too, like your healing can turn into crowd control, and running causes explosions.

Nothing that severe but I feel it could work in the context of this game, giving rarer upgrades benefits to certain aspects of your character.

Maybe red sugar heals you for less but you deal more damage, or pick axe swings dealing more damage after a taking a hit

[olive narwhal]

That last one is see you in hells passive iirc

Rogue core can make use of it more than base drg can for sure tho

[subtle zenith]

so you need to press the key of running everytime?

in minecraft works because you can run without interruptions or constantly collide with terrain, but in DRG is totally the opposite

[upper nest]

Forgot about that lol

[raw blaze]

im confused whats this lol

seems like drg sequel??

[raven wharf]

pinned messages

[raw blaze]

omg this looks so cool

i adore roguelikes

[fossil imp]

is it possible to get into the play tests and if yes where do i go to do that?

[median sleet]

request access on the Steam page

[fossil imp]

hmm i did that forever ago but have yet to get an email about joining

[tall plume]

not everyone get in

[fossil imp]

well yes i understand that friend

[compact shard]

I think perhaps you overestimate where the game is in development that those elements should be a high priority to attract players.

Alpha and initial early access builds aren't really the time to attract people, unless you're desperate for money, because the game isn't ready for most players. It's in a playable state, technically, but a lot of what will make the game really feel unique is in the polish. This is the stage of the game where the priority is building the framework that holds up the rest of the experience.

Flashier gun effects aren't really a going to be better for the game that an actual UI or progression system

[summer ferry]

Give me a chainsaw axe dwarf with a Berserker rage abiltiy and my life is your's GSG

[tight wing]

i wonder how many like

friend

you can have

steeve style <3

minions, pets, turrets, that kinda thing

[summer ferry]

falconer has falcon, but that's the extent of what I know being in RC

[rare dune]

is there an up to date road map for rogue core anywhere?

[raven wharf]

Pinned messages

[unreal carbon]

damn i just have dream where i play in rogue core, btw there we can find a broken molly in cave and get some gold from her wen its looted.

anyway 10\10 gameplay

[summer ferry]

Senpy got early access beamed directly into their brain by the minds at GSG

[daring hill]

Broken molly already exists, but its expenite instead of gold

[unreal carbon]

damn

[chrome basin]

some other guy reported having dreams of roguecore and seeing new weapons in them ¿is GSG trying to reach his fanbase through their dreams?

[unreal carbon]

ahahah

mb mb brother

[chrome basin]

I wish I got the invitation to the dream version of the alpha

[unreal carbon]

damn, devs say what they remove this feature for rogue core in past waves.

[tacit urchin]

ARG material right there

[unreal carbon]

but like i feel - movement in RC so smooth for me, like for closed beta test its cool for now, gj for devs.
And this feature, irl im 180cm tall. In dream - 150. Full immersion.

[prisma elm]

for those who have been invited to the playtest, what are your opinions on the replay-ability of the game? I know the game is its early stages but, do you see it having the potential of people racking in hundreds of hours in it? Or is there no ultimate goal that’s driving people to keep on coming back to the game? i know nothing is set in rock and stone, but would still like to hear opinions

[raven wharf]

Long term progression goals are not in the game yet.

[tall plume]

it's okay for now but nothing big, as most long-term system have not been added yet (just like The Loan Clippy said). Once it's fully done, I can definitely see people sinking hundred of hours into it. There's a very solid fundation to make it a great roguelite.

I doubt it will be as grindy as DRG though

and I don't think it has the vocation to be either

[tacit urchin]

Not worth typing anything as my opinion will change in like 2-3 weeks

[upbeat dawn]

I feel jealous of the people that were invited

[young vessel]

you ever notice how only once a year in the month of october does one person say the term "rc car" in this chat?

[fallow oyster]

What does a fella like me have to do to get this game? 😝

[carmine zenith]

Pay money on release

[fallow oyster]

🫡

[vestal patio]

Me too

[prisma elm]

I wonder if the skill trees are class specific, sorta like in regular rpgs

[unreal carbon]

devs said that there will be some kind of update in September, is that true?
Or they wanted to provide a more precise date for the next wave than they did a month ago, idk.

[median sleet]

Latest pin

[unreal carbon]

damn ty man

so we need just 2 weeks and we get one more wave.

[cobalt ridge]

Cant wait for early access to release right before christmas

[oak pond]

Would def be a great Christmas gift

[chrome basin]

How many scouts would I need to C4’d to enter the last wave?

[sly sparrow]

4

[tall plume]

it's a "maybe" tho, nothing confirmed at 100%

[visual latch]

It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a teamkiller to enter the beta.

[oak pond]

Preach

[unreal carbon]

yep

but i think next update be nice, new guns looks awesome

[summer ferry]

I want a summoner class...

Closest we got is falconer, but I'd love a class that moreso relates to beast master in the base game, or engineer from risk of rain

Spawning companions that have their own HP, or playing into a somewhat necromancer / mad scientist role with resurrecting dead enemies to fight for you

[lilac heart]

I’m game, as long as summoning anything costs you a vital resource and is only temporary in duration

[summer ferry]

Your vital resource is your class feature that you miss by not playing another class

[lilac heart]

Thinking of Rogue from Nuclear Throne

[lilac heart]

Cooldown is a resource, sure

[summer ferry]

Perhaps you could charge up an ability through damage or kills

Gotta be careful and allow it to stack, otherwise it literally is just falconer

Engineer shredder swarm

[old swift]

i kind of feel like prefiring my opinion that retcon will probably be the best class

will probably be my favorite anyway

[rare briar]

I can't really think of any crazy advantageous way retcon can be used so far besides backtracking

[old swift]

dodging quite literally everything

depending on how the ability works

actually nvm, the previous blogpost describes it as "pause their state in space-time and phase out for a few seconds of consequence-free mayhem before resetting to where they were before."

assuming enemies still behave like normal when you've activated the ability i think it still seems very strong

[tall plume]

depending on how it's designed, it could refund health, ammo and armor

not just positioning

[old swift]

in my mind i see iron will on a short cooldown

activating ability and c4ing myself

[tall plume]

I don't think you will be able to activate it if you're down tho

[old swift]

yeah i just meant what you'll be able to get away with

but i guess that's just because of invulnerability

[tall plume]

we'll have to wait and see how they go about it

[rare briar]

In all honesty it's my fault for not really understanding how this will work or what his second skill/ability is

[old swift]

well i didn't actually realize the description i posted is how it's gonna work

[tall plume]

could be a "save position and return back" or more like Tracer, when you go back a few seconds

[old swift]

i was either confusing it with an older description of the class, or just read "resetting to where they were before" and thought that was the ability itself

[rare briar]

Like the item in halo infinite

[rare briar]

Now that I think just a bit harder now you could just save you position at a supply pod and have it as a retreat button when your in trouble

I understand it now

[past terrace]

Is there a playtest planned at some point?

[tacit urchin]

Yeah, like 2 weeks from now

[frank forge]

Hey there! Just found aboit rogue core and am definitly excited! Any recommended content to have a more indepth view of what kind of wonder it will be?
I m hoping for a slightly different level design on certain mission that wpuld involve mining complex, long alleys, rooms, staircases etc etc

Like indoor mission, such as the rig 17! Randomly generated dungeons inside the caves

[mossy ruin]

there's a bunch of RC streams from the devs or others which got access

there are no fully indoor missions, but there are dwarvenbuilt structures in the caves

like hallways, stairs, lifts

[frank forge]

neat that s a thing i m looking after in a new drg game :))

[native sonnet]

when is the release date, i want to play this game

[tall plume]

check the roadmap in the pinned messages

[tacit urchin]

The Q4 of this year

[prisma elm]

gsg will you guys be showing a new version of the game on the next stream?

[prisma elm]

please do

[indigo bough]

Hello
Can I participate in the alpha/beta test ?

[tacit urchin]

Maybe, if you're lucky to get selected

[indigo bough]

How do I participate ?

[tacit urchin]

Rogue Core page on steam

[tall plume]

you can request access on the store page

[chrome basin]

Is the new OST integrated in the current tests?

[old swift]

yes

[chrome basin]

how is it? cool or nah?

[green sky]

if i go into a solo mission while waiting for others to jointhrough the discord lfg thingy will people still be able to join?

[silver quest]

if you have it on public

[median sleet]

no

[hard frigate]

Rouge core when?!?

(🟥)

[daring hill]

Its really good, I've had the entire thing extracted for personal listening for months now

But it cant be shared around, GSG wants people to wait for the official release once EA hits

[waxen girder]

are they still inviting for alpha/beta? I would like to try the game before spending on the Early Access

[tacit urchin]

Well, it comes in waves. Next wave will most likely happen when the next playtest happens (2-ish weeks from now)

[waxen girder]

oh, I thought the game was open 24/7. So they do small tests here and there?

[tacit urchin]

The game is open 24/7 but only for testers

It's just to become a tester you need to be selected during a wave

[waxen girder]

I guess we won't see any kind of demo or open beta before the early access :/

[tacit urchin]

🤷

[raven wharf]

Your demo for every steam game is 2 hours and 2 weeks.

[granite totem]

add Karl as the final boss of rouge core

[prisma elm]

Karl has morphed with the glyphids, that’s why they’re humanoid/bug types

[zenith valley]

Is there any news on early access date? Im out of the loop rn

[raven wharf]

Pinned messages

[strong forge]

when is the next key drop

for rouge core

[raven wharf]

#rogue-core-chat message

[strong forge]

thank you

[bright falcon]

My friend got in, and I remember hearing something awhile back about everyone who gets in getting a code for a friend. Is this still the case? If so, how do you get the code?

[dapper crescent]

check the pinned messages.

[unreal carbon]

Scientific Research Department will share their new guns with ordinary workers from DRG?

[gilded rock]

no, adding new guns to rogue core is a lot easier than adding them to base DRG (detailed explanation in the last pinned blogpost)

[unreal carbon]

damn

well, its ok than - we still can use this guns for work on rogue core.

ty for info brother

[rare briar]

What's everyone's favorite corespawn species

[compact shard]

Won't know until I get the game

[prisma elm]

any channels yall reccomend for gameplay footage of the last playtest?

[forest rain]

The DRG survivor channel is best what I believe

[teal mica]

FangDRSH.

[waxen girder]

is there any expected price for EA?

[lilac heart]

Nope, as far as I’m aware.

We’ll probably learn of it whenever the early access is actually released

[stiff quarry]

how much the game might cost?

[visual latch]

We don't know

[lilac heart]

I would expect anything in the range of €15-25, but that’s just a guess

[upper haven]

$99999999999⁹.99/j

[civic drift]

Probably roughly the same cost as DRG

And going on sale as often as drg

[stone jacinth]

Five dabloons

[thin siren]

🟥

[visual kestrel]

WHY CAN I NOT GET THE ROGUE CORE EARLY ACCESS???? I APPLIED SO EARLY 😭

Sadness…

[potent heart]

Did they find your stash of the monthly leaf lover?

[visual kestrel]

…………………………

[potent heart]

<_<

[visual kestrel]

i hope n- i mean NO. I DONT DRINK THAT STUFF.

bad

[potent heart]

Guess it's time to clean the station...
lights flamer

[prisma elm]

hopefully we get substantial news in the stream tmrw

[daring hill]

Tomorrow they will announce that they will blow up the planet

Its so sad but it has to happen

Wait

No i think its today actually?

Yep its today

Anyway its not for another week or 2 at absolute minimum

[rare quarry]

Driller went rogue and C4'd hoxxes

[daring hill]

oh

no stream today?

oh wait I got it

1pm for you guys isn't for another hour

damn daylight savings...

[daring hill]

wrong on both accounts...

oh jacob, bestow your knowledge: is there a stream happening today

[tall plume]

it has started already

[daring hill]

woaw

new build for stream

I was kinda hoping I could join the lobby but oh well

i'd rather them show off a new build

[tall plume]

yeah

[daring hill]

ARMOR RESUPPLY YESSSS

[tacit urchin]

The game changed so much holy

[daring hill]

Still no level-wide objectives...

at least in the runs they are playing

[pure vessel]

Not yet 🙂 They're planned

[tacit urchin]

I have no clue what you were doing with gotoorak all this time, but it paid off

Genuinely kinda unnerving

[pure vessel]

Yeah Casper was the artist behind it I believe. He did a great job! What's in the build you saw is just a temp until it's finished.

[upper haven]

Did they show off Cooper?

[pure vessel]

Not sure, but he got a new mesh

[median yoke]

the new build omg I wanna rogue the core so much

[prisma elm]

I agree, starting to look more polished in terms of ui and facility buildings, sometimes the terrain would look funky though

[prisma elm]

wdym by level wide? u mean one large task instead of small exponite events?

[indigo bough]

man i want to play this

[waxen girder]

i just hope they do some kind of open beta or something to try it

[finite fjord]

Roadmap promised us early access release of this and dark swarm after surv 1.0

And here we are

So I guess next major news will be on RC or at least Dark Swarm and after that on RC

[median yoke]

HOLY THE NEW BOSS DESIGN

[waxen girder]

Talking about Dark Swarm, I know it's made by another studio, but I feel DRG, Rogue Core and Dark Swarm overlap too much imo

[rare glacier]

the open playtest is all but a myth

[raven wharf]

When have they stated definitively that there would be an open playtest?

[old swift]

CopenLOSED
AplaytestLPHA

[median yoke]

don't lose faith, it could be any one of us

for the closed one, that is- BUT STILL

[chrome basin]

Me want to play gäem : (

[median sleet]

I hope they add stuff next update

[old swift]

it'll only be things unfortunately

[median sleet]

Game is dead, it's so over, we're cooked, pack it up boys

[tacit urchin]

Don't worry, I've heard the things are better than the stuff they'll add

[pastel trail]

howd to get beta test?

[remote terrace]

you need to have at least gold promo's for all 4 dwarves in regular DRG, then you have to order 500 beers (any kind, except a leaflover resets the counter to 0). After this you'll have to break Lloyd's highscore in Jetty Boot. This will grant you a beta key. Good luck Miner!

[pastel trail]

hell naw

im not doing ts

[wheat pewter]

bro is sugar coating it with gold promos

[remote terrace]

Understandable, then requesting acces through the Rogue Core steam page might do the trick. Chances of getting in are slim though, so hoping you get randomly selected is all you can do.

[daring hill]

To get access you must solve GSG's riddles three

[rare glacier]

to get access i heard you have to beat a glyphid dreadnought on hazard 4 with only a pickaxe

[willow flame]

No, you just need to defeat the Core stone with only a pickaxe.

on hazard 5+

[prisma elm]

they should genuinely do that challenge for keys lmao

[cobalt ridge]

haz 5 with all modifiers, right

[rare dune]

If I had the ability to send GIF's I would be sending Kingpin pen click like every day in this chat

It's only a matter of time

[south wigeon]

I missed the September Dev log, and holy crow does the Battle Rifle look awesome. I think that could be my favorite gun one day. From first looks at least.

Not to mention the Reclaimer designs, looking dope as ever.

[subtle zenith]

done it and i can't acces

[long breach]

Its a request and there isnt a playtest running at the moment so no new invites are sent out to people who have requested access yet

[drowsy roost]

How did they chose who to give the access?

[tall plume]

they don't, it's random

[drowsy roost]

You sure it's a random-random? Not a special-random?

[tall plume]

special random ? what does that mean ?

[drowsy roost]

Like, random for people with 1000+ hours

[tall plume]

it's completely random

[daring hill]

the only time keys were ever given out to specific people was in the very first wave

[tall plume]

steam doesn't allow devs to pick up people from a list, only a set number per region

there is a handful of people who got handed out keys but that's like

50 people

[daring hill]

and thats probably including moderators here who had access before

[drowsy roost]

I see

[tall plume]

Moderators, community testers, some content creators, and a handful of people who participated in previous experimentals in DRG

outside of these, it's completely random

[desert sinew]

Morning ppl 👋 , is there any news about roguecore?, like when are we gonna be able to buy it?

[tall plume]

check the roadmap in the pinned messages

[desert sinew]

Guess il just play survivor in the meantime X_X

[willow flame]

We need a new Rogue Core trailer, because the last one is already outdated.

[tall plume]

we'll get one for the EA announcement

[willow flame]

Of course

[unreal carbon]

wen its gonna be?

[tall plume]

check the roadmap in the pinned messages

[cold bane]

hi everyone. Did GSG said anything about the desired tone of the RC comparing to DRG? Meaning will it be darker and more into horror elements? That are the vibes I am getting so far

[tall plume]

it is intended to be more serious, yeah

[cold bane]

I really like the tone balance in DRG. I hope they dont overdo the horror stuff and go into morbid. I LOVE everything else they are doing. Just not this one.

@tall plume tnx for the answer 😉

[civic drift]

Considering the closed alpha, it shouldnt be very morbid

It's just significantly more serious

Ur a highly trained dwarf specializing in recovering what's lost

[olive hound]

Lost N Found Dwarves

[frail temple]

so, no horror vibes, just less dwarf jokes ? 🙁

[tall plume]

it's definitely more in the "cosmic horror" vibe than DRG was

[chrome basin]

Here’s where I would discuss about rogue core, IF I HAD ACCESS!!!

[pine skiff]

Incorrect, you would discuss it here: https://discord.com/channels/257785731072786435/1366343433442295828

[daring hill]

Almost wish I didnt have access, so this joke could land

Almost

Actually no, the link working if you have access is funnier

[tough eagle]

Is rogue core still being worked on? or did they realize their mistake and should have made paid content for drg instead?

[young vessel]

yeah and it costs $100