rogue-core-chat

[crisp yarrow]

actually, gameplay performance on 11 is ass

[inner granite]

My old laptop decided to update to 11

[crisp yarrow]

and navigating on 11 also is disgusting

[inner granite]

Now it's just trash, as lag is too big to even move the cursor

[north steeple]

that sucks

[crisp yarrow]

my condolences

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-pikachu-pokemon-shocked-gif-16985133

You mean without you telling it to do so?

[north steeple]

that youre going to have to force a win10 reinstall to fix, luckilly that can be done without turning it on

[inner granite]

It alredy had a bug that cpu was working only on 1/3 max power

[inner granite]

I ain't doing it
I fully switched to pc

Now it's just nice wall piece

[north steeple]

fair

[crisp yarrow]

guys, give me access to the alpha, trust
I need it

[raven wharf]

go request it on steam and be patient

[crisp yarrow]

I've done that like a month ago ;-;

[inner granite]

α

[raven wharf]

then continue to be patient

[olive hound]

John "The Patient One" Rogue

[crisp yarrow]

aight gona go spend another 610 houes on drg then😮‍💨

[pulsar owl]

Be sure to play other games as well

[hollow bear]

Add another zero to that

[crisp yarrow]

I deeply refuse!

[crisp yarrow]

omw

[fading stag]

Requested from the start of the record - 0

[pulsar owl]

They won't send another wave until they add more meaningful things to the game

It does not provide much, to send out another wave now, they've already gotten enough relevant feedback for now

I guess the thing I mostly wish for is to be able to view the closed discussion channels, (not speak), since there's alot of opinions and such that I am inevitably out of the loop on

[rare dune]

Yeah but I trust ghost ship regardless. Having been with DRG since it’s alpha I’ve seen how far the game’s come and everything that underwent change

The only difference is rogue core can have a more playable alpha because of its placeholders from DRG. DRG just had gray-boxed stuff

-# Still doesn’t change the fact that I wanna play it 😦

[inner granite]

What you rate higher
Haste or RC

[rare dune]

Well I haven’t played RC

[inner granite]

What would you rate higher

[rare dune]

And beaten Haste, so a little unfair

Hmm probably RC because the shooting style of gameplay appeals to me more than the speed style

(Probably why I main gunner and think scout is boring lmao)

[inner granite]

Fair

[rare dune]

But atm I can’t tell

It’s undeniable that Haste is hella satisfying (but going for the perfectionist achievement got old really fast)

Same feeling of hitting a charger blaster crit headshot on a void stalker, just different means

[neat acorn]

the YT algorithm is recommending me a rogue core review

who tf reviews a closed alpha test

[pulsar owl]

Can you dm it to me, I actually want to see this too

[neat acorn]

...I think I can post it here? mods bonk me if I can't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMdJ9y86GH8

he does state that its alpha fwiw

[pulsar owl]

Mhm

I just wish they'd have put that mention in the title

[neat acorn]

doesn't earn as many clicks

[tall plume]

yes, it's fine

[astral sluice]

"This is from the Closed Alpha Playtest, so some things may change in the future. " in the description

"some things may change" cmon buddy

[tall plume]

more like "something may stay the same"

[pulsar owl]

@raven wharf makes a very special cameo in this vid lol

[raven wharf]

I've seen it

[civic drift]

Dude I got so completely confused, I saw haste talk in this chat

And It took me a minute to process this is drg

Not Haste discord

[civic drift]

Haste is one of those games u pull out to play for like, 30 minutes to an hour and chill

It makes for great background entertainment

[inner granite]

its haste discord, trust me

zoe is going mining

[civic drift]

Sus

[finite tundra]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2v6voqVNBHQ?si=kO_OvQSVRNtRA2GE

maybe Mission Control left on his own free will

[pulsar owl]

Can someone confirm how the second equipment slot works, when dealing with more equipment, as well as grenades?

[hollow bear]

You just press the slot button again to switch to the second slot

[pulsar owl]

So,
1 - weapon #1
2 - weapon #2
3 - Utility
3 again - Swap Utility?

is the 4 button used for anything?

[hollow bear]

4 is grenades

[pulsar owl]

I see, so then G is unused I assume

[hollow bear]

For now.

Bringing it back for grenades is popular feedback, but we'll see what they do

[pulsar owl]

I was just tryna see what buttons are available, keeping a controller in mind as well for a suggestion

[sturdy blade]

I hope the inventory UI gets updated to 1 make this more clear, and 2, make every slot fully customizable

Cause like, idk why it shouldn’t be

[quiet acorn]

are there any plans to update drg with some niche little qol stuff after releasing rogue core?

[tall plume]

#rogue-core-chat message

[quiet acorn]

ooh, thanks

[inner granite]

DRG is not finished or anything, just moved into further plan

Now they are fully focusing on RC as they want to relase it in our lifetime; after everything's done both games will be worked on in parallel

[cold aurora]

just had a pretty fun bug where I was able to "fly" for a bit

[sharp ermine]

Do we have any idea when the next drops of invites will happen?

I'm very excited to try rouge core out

[ashen condor]

Nope

[sharp ermine]

Darn

[raven wharf]

Yes. When you see a notification on steam you know you've gotten in. When you don't, you know you haven't. Patience.

Otherwise you'll get in for an undisclosed amount of cash later this year

[toxic herald]

Rouge core

Bottom text

[sharp ermine]

That's... Not exactly what I was asking, but thank you for trying to help! If this wasn't some sort of meme thing.

[rare dune]

tomorrow marks 1 week of the alpha playtest. Now 98% of me knows that they need more time to make changes to the game and more playtesters would be pointless... but the other 2% still hopes they'll send out another wave 😔

[pulsar owl]

more properly,

No major changes have been added since the first wave was sent. Meaning that they've already gotten 90% of the relevant feedback and are likely busy implementing feedback and changes getting ready for the next "major" update.

Once that update is ready, is when we can realistically expect a second wave

[sturdy blade]

We are guaranteed a second wave, however what we're not guaranteed is a "when"

[desert sinew]

Me can't play roguecore, me sad 😦

[sturdy blade]

Likely a month or so

[sharp ermine]

Fair, thank you for the explanation!

[rare dune]

Yeah the earliest a new wave would realistically come out is next sprint, which is anywhere between 2-4 weeks (so 1-3 weeks from now)

[severe nymph]

Praying

[brazen totem]

will rogue core have the M1000?

[near leaf]

I think it was in the dev stream

[severe nymph]

Yeah in rn

Idk if they plan to change it to be a different weapon or smth but yeah for now it seems to be in

[stark sinew]

it is already in the game.

[ashen condor]

Just watch they turn it into the M1001 and it's suddenly a rapid-fire SMG

[fresh jetty]

when will they add the M5000 which is full auto and has the smart rifle bullet redirection towards headshots

[ashen condor]

Tuesday

[bright needle]

how long will this playtest run for?

[fast sable]

2 weeks？

I dunno

[rare dune]

thats a good estimate

[fast sable]

No more than 1 month, I think.

[pulsar owl]

Yall should instead focus on how cool the next playtest will be, and find all the things that have changed

[finite tundra]

Im with you on that

[rare dune]

😭

[frail yew]

how is rogue core so far?

[grizzled pelican]

very rogue

[frail yew]

you think alot of people even know about early access?

[vocal jewel]

at least 200 people know

[finite tundra]

Very core

[neon helm]

Maybe the real keys were the cores we reclaimed along the way

[pure lance]

So, I’m assuming mods will still be a thing in Rogue Core?

[pulsar owl]

too soon to say

[pure lance]

Hopefully I’ll be able to get a chance to play Rogue Core in the next wave of playtesting

Loved what I saw, and it’ll definitely be a welcome challenge compared to regular DRG

[desert narwhal]

Hey is there a requirement to be accepted for the playtest like having 1k hours on DRG?

[ashen condor]

No, that'd be dumb

[old swift]

yeah 3k is the requirement instead

[neon helm]

30k*

And 300 error cubes

[ashen condor]

That's 30k promotion level on each dwarf, to be clear

[desert narwhal]

ah i see

[final rose]

fr fr hopefully to be a part of the next play test 🙂

[visual latch]

They're joking. There is no requirement; as long as you signed up on Steam, you could be picked randomly

[finite tundra]

I have 30

It’s only one zero

Off

[desert narwhal]

Guess me and my friends got unlucky this time😔

[sweet ivy]

From what I played so far, it definitely has potential. It's hard to know what to say about it yet >_< Lots of things will change overtime.

[stoic laurel]

Rouge - a shade of red
Nexus - a synonym of core
When will devs add the blue nexus?

[median sleet]

Make sure to press the discord button you see on bootup to join the private channels where you can provide feedback

[crystal echo]

Closed alpha is a week old guys, but I think everybody is already done with it, only 8 users now online....

[mighty lake]

have anyone ever actually got a gunner weapon in rogue core? I've heard people say they exist, but I've never gotten once

[tall plume]

yeah

[olive narwhal]

I have only got leadstorm personally so far

[native monolith]

Pretty sure bert, leadstorm, and bulldog are in

[tall plume]

there's the thunderhead and the leadstorm

[native monolith]

Rest are not

Oh thunderhead?

[tall plume]

yeah

And i guess there's this "mortar round-like" gun

[native monolith]

Haven’t seen that one before

[tall plume]

with hurricane skin

[native monolith]

Pocket mortar would be cool

I guess that would be a little close to the PGL though

[tall plume]

well it exists but it's pretty rare

never got to use it myself

[native monolith]

I definitely would like to see some more wacky experimental guns

Shock blaster is a good direction

[hollow bear]

Finger gun, my beloved

[native monolith]

I haven’t seen any of the other idle animations

But I don’t think any would beat that

[olive narwhal]

One comes close imo

[daring hill]

Yep. Everything that there is to see has been seen, everything that could get feedback has it, and there are over 500 bugs reported.

This is entirely natural though

There will be an update with more stuff to experience, feedback, and report the bugs of

As is the natural order for basically any closed alpha in existence

[olive hound]

-# and maybe new invites 🙏

[crystal echo]

Haha yeah lets hope for that. No dev stream today btw, so no new news as well today...

[daring hill]

You and me both

[crystal echo]

15th of may next rogue core dev livestream, maybe we hear something then.. but I doubt it

[daring hill]

Yeah I hope they have more they can show off or even release then

[olive hound]

Sounds fair enough

[daring hill]

They are currently working on a proper update now

[crystal echo]

How do you know?

[olive hound]

Source: trust

[tall plume]

Source: the devs

[native monolith]

I’d bet we see it by the end of the month

[rare dune]

yeah the next-next stream on the 27th would most likely be prime 2nd wave time to showcase all the changes live while also getting new playtesters

[pulsar owl]

I would generally concur

[cold aurora]

Very challenging or maybe I'm just bad

It may be a personal defect but I've found it hard to make good builds. I've seen team mates build some very op ones though

[latent sparrow]

I’ve been out of the loop for a bit
Is rogue core a separate game or part of deep rock like a dlc? I just stumbled upon some gameplay but I’m unsure how the release is going to work

[cold aurora]

It is a separate game in alpha access right now

[gritty raptor]

can people still play the game rn or is it down until they fix some stuff

[summer tiger]

high RoF optional penetration and ricochet upgrades

[summer tiger]

you can join other lobbies

[raven wharf]

#info-and-announcements-alpha

[median sleet]

I don't think they can see that channel

[inner granite]

Tell us what's there

[dapper crescent]

I certainly can't see it.

[inner granite]

Also, for someone in power: can you please change so non rc players can see rc channels, just can not talk there?

[median sleet]

Thanks everyone for playing! We’ve collected a lot of feedback and are now hard at work on making tweaks and changes as well as new features for a new round of Closed Alpha testing in the future.

We’ll leave the current version running “as is” in the meantime, just don’t tire out on what’s currently here - there’ll be plenty to come! Also keep in mind that we’ll be wiping save games between updates.

We’ll make sure to let you know on Discord and Steam when a new update is available. We will also invite more players when the next playtest starts. Rock and Stone!

[inner granite]

I don't know who to ask, so hey @tall plume, good guy, can you pass it furthter?

[dapper crescent]

I think that message right there needs pinning, honestly.

[inner granite]

It will be not up to date pretty soon

[dapper crescent]

pins can be edited and changed/removed

[native monolith]

[raven wharf]

It really doesn't. Players that read and follow instructions have access to the closed alpha channels and testing specific announcements.

[pulsar owl]

I don't know if reading and following instructions can help, if you don't have access to the closed alpha in the first place

[raven wharf]

That’s the point? It’s meaningless information to those without access to the playtest. Those with access should’ve been following the instructions ingame and should have access to the appropriate channels where they’d see the relevant announcement.

[pulsar owl]

I would argue on it being meaningless information

Pertaining to that announcement specifically at least

[proven current]

i just hope that the next round of playtest groups up more players than this one

[dapper crescent]

It would certainly help set the expectation that new invites aren't currently being sent out.

and that the current round of testing is over.

[rare dune]

I would have liked to see that announcement, now I know what pace the dev's are on. Also if I do get access eventually, there's no promise they'd remind everyone again that they'll wipe save data. It is really good stuff to know :/

I could have missed that and then been surprised after getting in round 2 and the data wipes going to round 3 of playtests, etc

Saying its meaningless is disregarding the meanings we might make of it

[gritty vortex]

does anyone have a good photo of the laser revolver

[deep skiff]

No but i made a nice gif of its spinning animation on tenor.

[old swift]

it's written in game that the save data will be wiped

[rare dune]

oh okay sweet

[errant kiln]

crab

[inner granite]

Rat

[severe nymph]

Door!

[rain chasm]

[rancid ermine]

[obtuse dock]

Just wanna ask in advance, am I able to submit a PDF or just share access to a google document? I like coming up with ideas, so I've got like 4 pages of ideas for Rogue Core and I'm just getting started.

I just wanted to check that I'm able to give feedback in a google doc before going overboard only to potentially find out that I'm not.

And devs able to let me know if I should or shouldn't proceed with my DRG (Document Regarding Game)?

[orchid berry]

idea: add the mole coilgun to the weapon selection so you can shoot the rift boss from the first level

[obtuse dock]

Where is the rogue core closed alpha lfg thing?

[median sleet]

Click the join discord button when you boot up RC

[obtuse dock]

I'm in.

[mighty lake]

does anyone else's rogue core freeze on startup? idk if it's a bug or a me issue?

nvm it was just my antivirus doing bad things

[turbid elbow]

I'm hoping for some more keys soon. I can't remember the last time I've wanted to play a game this much.

[pallid pilot]

same

[turbid fractal]

Hello, how I can get DRG Rogue Core closed alpha access besides sending request on steam page? Maybe someone has an extra key to invite a "friend"?

[raven wharf]

Have to be friends for more than 30 days on steam. Begging for a key isn't productive. RC is unfinished. You get access by either getting randomly selected, one of your friends gets selected and gives you their +1, you get a code directly from a developer, or you buy the game when it releases into early access later this year.

[fresh lily]

anyone feel like the movement in RC a bit slugish compare to DRG?

[lilac heart]

Any specific parts of it? I haven’t noticed anything out of ordinary in comparison to DRG’s movement, while watching through some RC content

[fresh lily]

i think the weapon bobbing around a lot more than DRG and the movement just a bit slower than normal drg

[midnight totem]

The weapon bob is likely a setting you turned down in DRG that's possibly not yet implemented on RC, and you don't happen to play scout a lot right?

[fresh lily]

not really, i play more Gunner than Scout tbh

[old swift]

animation cancelling seemed a bit weird, but i didn't always have low-ish ping so i can't say for sure

[old swift]

also that slider does nothing in DRG

[native monolith]

No dash?

That’s the only thing i can think of that would make it “slower”

[fresh lily]

yeah prob that

i kept pressing my dash bind lol

[tall plume]

I hope we're never getting a dash equivalent in RC

not as a meta upgrade, at least

[native monolith]

Dash had too much of a chokehold on the game

[tall plume]

it'd probably be fine as an expenite upgrade

[native monolith]

It is so strong

[hollow bear]

Games got enough speed perks for the tiny caves

[fresh lily]

im too used with dash to grab stuff that too far for my reach

[old swift]

we have double-triple-quadruple jump instead

[hollow bear]

Also zipline exists

Combat cocktail is pretty busted also

[median sleet]

The equipment that takes some of your health in exchange for a bunch of buffs makes you go very fast

yeah that one

[hollow bear]

Not sure why, but it's fun.

[old swift]

the real downside of the combat cocktail is the jump height

[median sleet]

It's good for solo camera farming

[hollow bear]

Yeh. Pretty much head bonk gameplay

[median sleet]

Love it when it runs out in the middle of a jump

[old swift]

i lightly tap the spacebar and proceed to stay in the air for the rest of the stage

[fresh lily]

also what the security camera do tho?

[raven wharf]

It's used as a crutch and when taken away people panic.

[median sleet]

5% increase of those points to get chips at the end of a run

[fresh lily]

heh cool

i think the worst event to do as solo is the expernite bulk

since you wont have enough time to mine all the expernite and do other event

[daring hill]

Its definitely the weakest event

Which makes sense, it's incredibly new

Probably didn't even exist in game when they first announced the closed alpha back in april

[past terrace]

Hey question
Does anyone know when they'll accept more people into the closed alpha or is it a "it will happen when it happens" sort of thing?

[tall plume]

there will be new waves with more people coming in

[past terrace]

I do know that I was more wondering when

[tall plume]

don't think they've shared any info in that regard

[acoustic shell]

The devs are cooking.

[pulsar owl]

This is the best information you'll probably find
#rogue-core-chat message

[past terrace]

Alright

[pulsar owl]

You could hope for news tomorrow during the gsg stream, but I'm leaning towards minimum 1 week from now

[raven wharf]

It's probably going to be a while. Feedback has to be processed, changes decided upon, and implemented.

[silver lagoon]

😮

[pulsar owl]

I don't know the situation in the channels, but surely devs have been working on bugs and features during the play test week, and additionally there isn't as much need for QA, since the playtesters double as such

[shut cipher]

wait nevermind I just saw the post from May 6th, im dumb!

some of the closed testers making hella bag on youtube though with their early access gameplay lmao

[pulsar owl]

Has there been any discussion about class identity in the alpha chats?

[latent viper]

Wait yall

Do you think that the Slicer being in Rogue Core might mean that Deep Rock Galactic could get more close-range or melee options??

I can't wait for Rogue Core. It looks unbelievably badass and I can't wait for the early access

[tall plume]

no

[latent viper]

Aw

That would make the Slicer feel less special if his main ability can be ripped off by regular blue-collar dwarves

[proven current]

i dont think we're getting more guns or classes in drg, after rogue core release we'll be getting a new season, so we just have to wait to see whats next:)

[median sleet]

Guys is Rogue Core dead game??? Playercount is very low!!! (emoji that expresses that I am making a joke)

[frigid path]

Plus they have to find things to distract Mike from touching zipline speed

[pulsar owl]

Almost mentioned your text against you

[thin siren]

It is playtest! Not final game. Why do you say dead game?

not very smart

[pulsar owl]

{insert emoji that expresses how you are also joking}

[thin siren]

Ha Okok

🙂

[inner granite]

Shame, GSG must have made shit game

It costed more to make than it earned

I heard that no player spent money on it

[wheat river]

I even gave him access to our google cloud infrastructure, it was the last resort, this might be it

[latent viper]

I hope the Rogue Core zipline speed gets added to Deep Rock Galactic

The DRG zipline speed is impractically slow

[inner granite]

It's slow and annoying until you have to haul aquark on a shelf

Gunner is must have for me on PE

[latent viper]

Point Extraction can be the best or worst mission type depending on the cave generation

[inner granite]

Every PE can be best with right gunner

You haven't seen my spiderweb yet

We were basicly breathing ziplines

[latent viper]

heck yeah

[keen wind]

Do we have a list of people who made it into rogue core play testing?

[tall plume]

no

[keen wind]

Do we have a number count of how many players got in?

[median sleet]

Probably more than 1000

[finite laurel]

I’of course it’s dead it’s made by a ghost ship

[restive narwhal]

so i signed up for alpha test is it still going?

[raven wharf]

pinned messages

[prisma robin]

well, I'm very close to being level 1337 in DRG, it's time to get RC access! 😉

[raven wharf]

You'll get access if you're randomly selected. Alternatively you can pay for a more complete experience when it launches in early access later this year.

[daring hill]

really hope the stream in 10-11 hours from now has a new wave, but I doubt they'll be doing one before the next content update to the alpha happens

[civic prawn]

How do I get accepted into the alpha of rogue core guys

Do I n3ed to pray to karl

[daring hill]

steam page has a signup button

then you can start praying!

[hushed trail]

does anyone thing the classes with get new options for weapons or attachments for each classes weapons?

[civic prawn]

Well wait ahead of u

I already consulted multiple gods to get the play test

[pliant radish]

so are the playtests gonna be in two-week blocks or smth?

[grizzled surge]

erm... no i

[daring hill]

Nope, no schedule or anything

Right now the current playtest is "over", but you can keep playing just fine

They have just closed down the feedback channels until an update is ready

[pliant radish]

Sounds like it'll be in a few days then

[daring hill]

Hopefully

[tardy fox]

Very likely not

[finite tundra]

Hopefully the new wave is soon I doubt it though

The reason for the first wave was to get enough feedback to make it playable

That takes a lot of work so while that happens we might not be seeing the game for a bit of time.

By we I am referring to the unlucky ones such as myself that missed out the first time around

From what it looks like those with access are still allowed to play whilst they work on the next update

Till then we get to watch the silly little dev streams and enjoy the game from afar

[teal tinsel]

But it never did happen or did it?

[thin apex]

It's a mix of everything tbh

[paper schooner]

Your reply made me time travel... Cool.

[teal tinsel]

What do you mean?

It's still 2024?

[paper schooner]

Um...

Yeah...

[teal tinsel]

What?

[paper schooner]

2024

Just that the post you replied to was from a while back.

Also, it's 2025 now.

[wild stag]

do content creators get access to rogue core?

[finite tundra]

I do not believe so

[wild stag]

ah

[finite tundra]

I think you are stuck with the rest of us

[wild stag]

dang looks fun I had some vid ideas

[finite tundra]

Start praying to Karl

And may we both join the reclaimers in the next wave

[thin apex]

Good old times for the first reveal of the alpha

[paper schooner]

Yeah. That was fun.

And a little nervous...

[teal tinsel]

I just got over the biggest panic in my life so what happened in 2025 so far?

[paper schooner]

Been a blurry mix of Rogue Core and recovering from a broken collar bone for me.

[teal tinsel]

Rogue core I am extremely new and have zero clue what that is or what R and D means

[paper schooner]

In that case welcome!

[teal tinsel]

._.

[thin apex]

Ouch, hopefully you're feeling better now.

[oblique summit]

No streams for it tn?

[daring hill]

nope, theres a stream starting in 5 hours!

#gsg-stream-schedule

[oblique summit]

[finite tundra]

I hate time zones so much

[daring hill]

what time is the stream on for you? its at 9pm for me

[inner granite]

13:00

[severe nymph]

There's some big names that seem to have gotten it such as Sniss who comes to mind

Idk of its distinctly cus of them being creators

[tall plume]

being a content creator does not guarantee access to RC alpha, no

[severe nymph]

Maybe maybe not

I'm jus saying some of the bigger drg creators do infact have access

Coincidence I think maybe?

[tall plume]

I know a few of them had guaranteed access, but it's the same ones that played it back in February 2024 when they visited the studio

So like

[pulsar owl]

It's a form of advertising as well

[tall plume]

6 people ?

[severe nymph]

Yuh

Most creators who get early access to games in general dl infact make content

[north coral]

how many percent is roguecore development

did they mentioned it?

[inner granite]

Rn it's safe to assume 100% i think

DRG was put on hold for now

[north coral]

huh

not trying to be mean, but the rogue core looks less good than drg for some reason

[blissful geyser]

In terms of progress toward completion, that kind of thing is hard to estimate. It may be something like 60-90% complete with regard to their goal for the public early access launch. It could also be less than 30% complete with regard to their goal for 1.0.

[north coral]

its probablyu something to do with the less of cosmetic or the floating number

[inner granite]

Hmm

Pre alpha state
Ye, i wonder why it looks bad

[north coral]

someone up there said 100%, hmm

[inner granite]

You can not judge game by it's early state

[north coral]

thats the case when its not 100% done

[inner granite]

What
We are far from even ea

[north coral]

are u by any chance moon knight

[inner granite]

100% developers are working on jt

[blissful geyser]

I don't think they meant it's 100% done, but rather that 100% of Ghost Ship Games' resources are on Rogue Core at the moment.

[inner granite]

Ye

[north coral]

mb i have a misunderstood

we'll wait then

[inner granite]

Floating numbers are there beacuse where in drg your guns won't change much in rc every run you have diffrend gun and you need feedback on how much dps you are doing

Beacuse there's no time to get feel for it or check numbers

[severe nymph]

I never really thought kf that but yeah makes sense

[tall plume]

it's not even in early access, so that's pretty normal

it's really early in the development phase still

[north coral]

hm that make sense

[jaunty dove]

really loved rogue core, a lotta fun 😄

[rancid ermine]

Really would've loved to play rogue core, seemed like a lotta fun

[daring hill]

Stream in one hour!

I don't think there will be an invite wave, there isn't going to be one until the next content update

But hopefully they have something they can show

[cinder quail]

Damn when I read all thoses RC suggestion to implement DRG content to RC feel dumb. Devs said they where not going for a DRG2 still ppl want and ask way to familiar things from DRG. I hope the devs will get rid of the deep rock mention on RC pages and official visuals, so people could understand they really are not going to add glyphids, rivals and other DRG lore to RC. Few hint time to time like a broken molly if great, but I for now really like the Core Stone vibes enemies.

[forest rain]

is rogue core its own game?

[daring hill]

It is yes

[forest rain]

ohh I see
should I just stop playing regular drg then, i feel like I'm behind with content

[median sleet]

it's a spinoff, DRG will still get updates

[daring hill]

That's deeply funny to me, because i thought people didn't like how close the game is to DRG (an opinion usually formed on footage only)

[forest rain]

oh ok awesome sauce

[cinder quail]

Originally it was plan to be season 5 but devs found out thay wanted to toy with way to much of the game core mechanics

Well it as the same biomes and stuff

But it's a pre alfa

[median sleet]

I think it was for s4

[cinder quail]

I don't also get why ppl want to play a glitched mess

[tall plume]

not quite, it was planned to be a paid expansion

[daring hill]

Next drg update will be a while sadly. 2026 at absolutely minimum

I'm not actually sure if season 6 is gonna start getting planned after early access starts or after it finishes

[cinder quail]

Yeah but turn out to be way more than an expansion

Anyway 2026 will be an exiting year for indie games

[median sleet]

Yeah, so exited for my favorite indie game: GTA VI

[cinder quail]

Lmao

I was thinking at subnautica 2

[inner granite]

GTA is overhypped

Change my mind

[median sleet]

IDK, I am not very involved with the game

[inner granite]

Also not Indie

Unknown world sold to some other company, now they publish it

Sub 1 and BZ were indie, sub 2 is not

[cinder quail]

Damn didn't know that

[inner granite]

They said it's gonna be just like sub 1 but i don't trust it

I didn't like the trailer

It did not look like Subnautica at all

Only connection was Alterra tech

[tall plume]

alright but this is the rogue-core chat

[cinder quail]

Maybe we should go in a #non-drg-chat

[tall plume]

#non-drg-chat is the place you're looking for

[inner granite]

):<

Fine

[cinder quail]

Yeah I kinda divagued with my interest in indie titles

[vapid fulcrum]

Hi . Is there a way to sign in on alpha ?

[gritty matrix]

rng

[inner granite]

Steam

Holy hell, ser pounce v2

[vapid fulcrum]

Thanks

[vapid fulcrum]

We both found the fountain of youth

[inner granite]

It's not 100% that you get in tho

[vapid fulcrum]

I know , just want to try

[daring hill]

Damn, I was hoping they'd be streaming a newer build as the stream schedule says. Nope, public only all the way down

Oh well, maybe new stuff next stream

[rare dune]

My body involuntarily woke up at 7am and I was so confused why but the first notif I see on my phone is rogue core dev stream it must be fate

[lusty sinew]

is new rogue core players like whjen does more people get it

[fresh lily]

when the devs send out more invite

[orchid berry]

or when the game releases

[lusty sinew]

where they send it is it just you go to steam thing

[orchid berry]

depends on how long you wanna wait

[fresh lily]

just check your steam and email

[lusty sinew]

oh yeah

[orchid berry]

its a early access signup on the steam page, if you sign up and youre chosen youll get a notif

[lusty sinew]

yeah

[orchid berry]

or at least i think thats how it works, i didnt get chosen ;-;

[fresh lily]

becareful tho since scammer can use this to get your acc

[lusty sinew]

i was just wondering ddo you need to verify on discored or something xD

[lusty sinew]

what-

[fresh lily]

so best to hope it appears on your email

[lusty sinew]

havent got it yet Dx

[heavy coral]

so no new play test today?

[pallid pilot]

all we can do is wait and see

[lusty sinew]

they said on stream another round is to be annouced

[daring hill]

Nope

[fresh lily]

be paitient

[daring hill]

They said there will be no invites today

And they are still working on a update

[lusty sinew]

yeaHH and they stop updating this beta that is out now

[crystal echo]

yeah, this playtest is basically done, and 2 of them are ill at home right now, so well prob hear something next week

[rare dune]

It’s shaping up to be next week. It lines up with their original timeframe estimate, the industry standard of sprints, and another scheduled rogue core stream on the 27th

[finite tundra]

Alpha*

[thin siren]

when is the second wave for playtest?

[thin siren]

Ha Okok

[inner granite]

+1 week

[hasty rain]

looking at more rogue core gameplay on youtube and wow yeah game deffo needs rerolls x3x

[mossy ruin]

wouldn't that make it too easy?

[tall plume]

not sure how that would work for a team pick

seems like it would lead to even more frustration

[old swift]

i won't say it...

[mossy ruin]

say it

[vocal jewel]

i dont think the game needs rerolls

[old swift]

already is.....

[mossy ruin]

ah

[vocal jewel]

the reason rerolls seem needed is because you get an upgrade screen with 6 options and 5 of them are bad

so just make those things good

[verbal wolf]

Rerolls wouldn't fix the problem.

[vocal jewel]

if you add rerolls you just reroll into a 6th bad option wow

[old swift]

it does add lootbox gameplay though

more of it

[verbal wolf]

Rerolls just mean more gambling in your gambling.

[vocal jewel]

if you want lootbox gameplay go grind cosmetic matrix cores in drg

[old swift]

unfortunately i can't anymore

that's why i dropped the game

[vocal jewel]

friendship ended with lootboxes
elite glyphid guard is new best friend

[verbal wolf]

Why stop at rerolling Matrix Cores? Let me reroll everything with RNG.

Reroll the spawn pool.

[median sleet]

reroll my teammates

[vocal jewel]

reroll which textures are assigned to which meshes

[verbal wolf]

Reroll the voicelines.

[hasty rain]

reroll the rerolls

[hasty rain]

guy i'm watching:
"Team speed- Why can I get this in solo?"

[vocal jewel]

expenite upgrade ready pog

[team speed in solo] [reload 10% faster when standing still] [15 melee damage when u get attacked by an enemy that removes half ur hp] [+20 max hp]

[verbal wolf]

Standing still. My favorite activity to do in DRG.

[hasty rain]

guy rolls gunlink as the only non-grey

[vocal jewel]

which flavor of cooper does +5% damage do you want

[hasty rain]

I am going to assume that's placeholder???

[blissful slate]

totally not just waking up to watch the next dev stream

[silver lagoon]

two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.

[pulsar owl]

The only way to make that work would be to add a POI that allows any individual dwarf to reroll a single upgrade per level

[pulsar owl]

Hypothetically speaking, what if the upgrades don't contribute to the build, or actively work against the build being made.

An upgrade can be very good, and yet still be useless to a player

[mossy ruin]

it's a roguelite
you aren't going to get upgrades tailored to you everytime, it's not meant to be this way

[pulsar owl]

An important thing about the rogue genre is that any game should be winnable

[raven wharf]

winnable does not mean cakewalk

[pulsar owl]

Many of the notable roguelites, and even some obscure ones all have some sort of extended player agency when dealing with perks (rerolls and other forms)

[pulsar owl]

Did anyone having the potential to reroll an upgrade per stage makes the game an instant cakewalk

And, for the specific games. I wouldn't really consider hades and risk of rain to be cakewalks even when you do everything you can do bend rng

[iron stirrup]

that could be a perk

[mossy ruin]

seeing 5 (6) upgrades at a time already does plenty for the purpose of bending rng

[red vigil]

no one said there cakewalks, in fact i would say risk of rain is hard as well on higher difficulties , also not all rouge lites have perks really, like for example spelunky and spelunky 2

[iron stirrup]

what about rerolling everything but the exponite upgrades

or a perk for extra choice or something

[pulsar owl]

Im arguing against things being a cakewalk. And Spelunky has an entire power up system

[red vigil]

i’ve played spelunky and the only kinda power up system there is, is items, and items aren’t perks

[pulsar owl]

This is a good point, the only argument I could make right now is in relation to the number of expenite upgrade acquirable per run.

Or strategic cases in which a play may want to risk a current upgrade for the change at getting a more suited/risking a worse one

[vocal jewel]

adapt

[old swift]

in roboquest/ror2 you reroll until you get what you want or reroll 90% of things

at least in my experience, but i don't really remember how you gain rerolls in roboquest

[tall plume]

Depends: reroll on weapons or perks ?

[mossy ruin]

yeah
for example in TBoI, item manipulation and rerolls are rather rare
so you might just get a shitty tier 0 item which gives you 10 bombs
but if you know how to use those bombs well, you might still get mileage out of that shitty item

[native monolith]

This is why I only play default Isaac

[mossy ruin]

bruv

[native monolith]

Mmm, d6

[old swift]

perks are what i am thinking of in RQ

[iron stirrup]

reroll on bio booster or the workbench

would be nice

[native monolith]

I think rogue core is still early enough that we can’t say much about builds but I do hope they start moving in the direction of absurd or unique combos

[tall plume]

you get two rerolls, through meta upgrades. Might get more through gambling the extra wrenches at the gamble robot.

[native monolith]

It should be noted reroll items or perks, in every roguelike, are usually one of the strongest things in it

[iron stirrup]

what if rerolling set your options to one

then it be fine

[native monolith]

I think rogue core doesn’t need a reroll

With the way the team picking works

[iron stirrup]

well right now no

there aren't that many perks to reroll from

[pulsar owl]

I was thinking, one reroll per stage,
consume 1 upgrade into the option between 2 upgrades of the same rarity

[iron stirrup]

it should be like same or below

if it was just same it's probably gonna be too strong

[pulsar owl]

It keeps the impact small enough per run, it's optional and works on an individual basis.
(no infinite printer rerolling, or anything to that effect)

[pulsar owl]

If i knew i could get a grey perk from a purple, this mechanic would probably go unused

makes the risk much too high imo

[iron stirrup]

yeah that's what makes rerolling fair

you gotta be 100% sure you don't want that purple

like that cooling aura on hit

that one is so bad that even a grey one would be better

[mossy ruin]

you're saying cooling unit is bad?

[pulsar owl]

Well, if this gets implemented i'd say it's up to the devs for how exact rerolls work

[iron stirrup]

the one that requires you to get hit

[pulsar owl]

but that one is just my two cents

[iron stirrup]

the armor aura is good

[mossy ruin]

yeah

[pulsar owl]

I don't know the upgrade you are mentioning off the top of my head, but wouldn't that synergize really well with brawler

[iron stirrup]

honestly even brawler

doesn't want to get hit

if he can help it

[pulsar owl]

i don't know if the temp hp was nerfed, but, otherwise it's absurdly strong

hit something, get around a 50% overshield

it decays incredibly slowly

[iron stirrup]

it goes down very fast

[pulsar owl]

and can be stacked upto 100 hp

[iron stirrup]

from hits that is

you also don't get the hp boost if you actually 1 tap something

[pulsar owl]

Couldn't you just hit something again

[pulsar owl]

surely that's a bug?

[iron stirrup]

who knows

[pulsar owl]

the hp is meant to scale with dmg dealt

[iron stirrup]

i think it's actually pretty balanced that way

otherwise you would be immortal

[pulsar owl]

well, overall. I think the player agency, and allowing opportunity for more strategic decisions would be healthy for the game. whether it be through the occasional reroll opportunity, or some other method that may be cooked up

[pulsar owl]

I genuinely thought it was immortality in an upgrade lol

[iron stirrup]

yeah rerolling would be a good thing

[pulsar owl]

glad to see it's not thaat storng

[gritty raptor]

maybe like once per stage?

would that be fair

I mean like floor

or level idk what they're called

[iron stirrup]

yeah once per stage should be fine

[pulsar owl]

That's what i said, 2 or 3 times

[gritty raptor]

and you make ppl like vote on it

[pulsar owl]

rerolling the entire expenite upgrade sequence can have too much of an effect on all players

[iron stirrup]

rerolling mission types could be interesting too

[pulsar owl]

i think having it be on an individual basis outside of upgrade sequences

[iron stirrup]

but that one is probably gonna be too op

[pulsar owl]

this brings a question, are the risk vectors the "only" source of weapon/grenade/artifact/equipment POI's

[iron stirrup]

it probably will stay this way

[pulsar owl]

then this reroll poi can also be put as an option for risk vectors

[iron stirrup]

but you would almost always go for artifacts

[pulsar owl]

that is true, but artifacts aren't always present

[iron stirrup]

yeah that's why the reroll

would be too strong

[pulsar owl]

i mean, having the reroll "be" a risk vector

[iron stirrup]

wait what

[pulsar owl]

to have a perk reroll machine, or however it takes shape

[iron stirrup]

oh i see

just a random reward

waiting for you there

[pulsar owl]

early game, you'd want weapons and such,
artifacts take priority

and later game perk rerolls will be more valuable, once weapons are already kitted out

[iron stirrup]

honestly early game weapons are enough

by themselves

cuz you are gonna be upgrading them throughout the run

[pulsar owl]

that is true, but the upgrade machines are littered around by default

so they don't really impact the risk vectors

[iron stirrup]

i just mean that you don't really need to look for anything

outside of artifacts pretty much

maybe some better equipment

cuz jet boots and hook is there

[pulsar owl]

Yeah, whenever there isnt an artifact, or you've already gotten enough artifacts you desire for whatever reason, the team can select a vector with the reroll machine

[grizzled surge]

i was thinking during the upgrade sequence, you'd have the choices and an option to reroll which puts you at the end of the queue
the players that picked an upgrade would get the upgrade they picked, then when it gets to the players who chose to reroll it would reroll the remaining choices (keeping the same rarity) and they get to pick again
it wouldn't have an effect on the people who want to pick one of the options but would let the rest of the team reroll if 80% of the options are garbage

[pulsar owl]

This is a very interesting idea

Makes good sense :)

The upgrade sequence should be reworked anyways imo

[mossy ruin]

Upgrade Ready
Awaiting Reclaimers

[pulsar owl]

Still Awaiting Reclaimers

[inner granite]

Still no Reclaimers

[summer tiger]

Lo and Behold- 5 vanguard corespawns

[inner granite]

We need voiceline when waiting for upgrade

Wake the bug up miner. We have upgrades to pick

[pulsar owl]

I dislike the immersion break part of the upgrade sequence

you sort of have to drop whatever you are doing, and group up with the rest of the team. Or what's even worse, yall are fighting a swarm together, then suddenly Make your pick

[paper schooner]

🤔 I like it.

[neat acorn]

what if the entire team opts to reroll? unless you make reroll a separate pick maybe?

cause I feel that letting the entire team look at so many different options would be busted

[median sleet]

it'd just reroll once I assume

[pulsar owl]

it would only reroll once, no matter how many people opt for it?

[neat acorn]

oh ok 🤦‍♂️

fair enough

[median sleet]

You just opt into being able to choose from the rerolls and opt out of being able to choose from the current upgrades

[pulsar owl]

The only concern I have, is that it could result in the sequence taking longer

[mossy ruin]

does that matter?
time is stopped anyway

[tall plume]

I wish the upgrade picking happened between levels instead of during the levels

you're already waiting for the game to load, might as well pickup stuff during that time

[glossy heath]

and create an improvement that will give you the ability to rerol multiple times

[daring hill]

I've said this earlier but I see no value is extending the wait between stages

[mossy ruin]

then you have no power growth within a stage

[daring hill]

That's just boring

And it eliminates immediate upgrade testing

[tall plume]

yes

[median sleet]

I like it happening during the levels, allows you to feel the effect of each upgrade more

[pulsar owl]

sometimes the mid-level effects make a significant difference in life

[daring hill]

The wait between levels is already long, it doesn't have to be dramatically longer

Because that's what this will make it

[pulsar owl]

and, there are the default hp upgrades that are really useful at times

sacrifice an upgrade for a full heal

[tall plume]

I'd rather have this than cutting in the middle of the action

to each his own I guess

[young vessel]

what about the idea that one guy had where people chose their own individual random upgrade in the caves, and then optionally trading them with your fellow dwarves in the elevator

[pulsar owl]

I made a suggestion for an alternative upgrade sequence, where everything happens alongside the active gameplay

team synchronous upgrades are a pretty unique concept, so it'll surely require lots of experimentation through the alpha

[tall plume]

Ideally, I'd like something akin to Roboquest, where you get a "safe room" at the start of a stage and at the mid point, which would allow you to upgrade. This way you don't cut the action, you don't have to do the "waiting around the drone for that one player" and you get to bask in the glory of the dwarven factories (instead of the loading screen).

[pulsar owl]

how do you suggest effectively making a safe room in a world where everything in destructible?

[mossy ruin]

not everything

[young vessel]

you make it out of metal instead of stone

[mossy ruin]

the constructions aren't

just repeat the starting room

[pulsar owl]

I mean, is there an effective way from preventing people to just go around it

[daring hill]

I don't really like the idea of completely eliminating the pause tbh. In my experience the only problematic wait is waiting for players to GET to the drone, which is trivial to delay until it's easier. The actual upgrading picking doesn't take long, and when there's a wait it is genuinely warranted and understandable, such as two really good upgrades, or artifacts.

[pulsar owl]

without a massive metal wall

[daring hill]

Why do that? No reason to force players to interact with such a thing

[young vessel]

you can just have a tunnel that leads into the room and if people want to dig around the entire thing then that is called player freedom

[daring hill]

A safe room players can interact with but aren't inherently forced to

[pulsar owl]

I guess

then the next thing i just thought of, this safe room will only be "safe" for a temporary time right? otherwise it may possibly be abused for respite and such

I think it's a pretty neat idea, since some brief pauses are nice

[tall plume]

I mean, what would be the point ?

[pulsar owl]

Fair xd

[young vessel]

well now they have an excuse to bring back the ghost bulk detonator

[mossy ruin]

epic spelunky reference

[pulsar owl]

So another food mechanic alongside ammo and the threat level

[mossy ruin]

how might it be abused?

the fountain of life artifact?

[pulsar owl]

As soon as a swarm begins, or things get hairy, people can just sit inside the safe room, essentially acting as a natural funnel

[mossy ruin]

oh, that

hmmm

[pulsar owl]

It's like a permanent guardian ability, but it also defends from ranged attacks

[mossy ruin]

well, maybe make it so if they enter, the doors close behind them, and they can't come back

[daring hill]

Here's what I think should happen:

• drone upgrade circle doesn't go away, you don't have to wait for it to land.
• static and much larger upgrade zones around the map
• let players see the next set of upgrades early. Though this is difficulty with multiple sets queued up.

I don't like moving the wait to the end of the stage. That could easily dramatically increase the wait time between levels, and removes immediate upgrade testing. This wait time is already significantly long, as it dictates break time. You could easily be waiting for minutes on end because someone had to do something.

I also don't like nuking team upgrades entirely for obvious reasons, nor forcing remote upgrades.

[young vessel]

instead of a safe room, its a safer room (it has 3 turrets around the structure)

[tall plume]

the way I see it: time would be paused inside it. And you'd have to fight to get in, just like the actual elevator wait.

it's not just a free ticket to safety

once you leave it, you don't get back in either

[pulsar owl]

I see

So something similar to a stage transition

within a stage

[young vessel]

like left 4 dead!!!!!

[vast moss]

is the voice acting in the current alpha placeholder voices?

[tall plume]

yeah

[tall plume]

yes

[pulsar owl]

I can mostly see how it works, the most common complaint to this would be again the mid-stage power progression, but ofc this and that are personal preferences

[daring hill]

Like just imagine it. You finish a hard stage, and multiple people go AFK to refresh, get some water, use the restroom, whatever. Say this takes 5 minutes. Then you pick your risk vector, which is not an easy choice and could easily destroy a run.

If upgrades are at the end of a stage? Bam, that's at least 4-6 upgrades per stage. Rather than 2-3 minutes spread out, that's a huge waiting block after what can easily be a decent wait already. I cannot fathom thinking that's a good thing

[pulsar owl]

It's most definitely a route the upgrade system can take

[daring hill]

Like, upgrades would go from visible progressing and improvement that you can do at your own discretion, to "oh OK, time to wait another 2-3 minutes before I'm allowed to play the video game again"

[tall plume]

I don't think it's a massive issue personally. I've played roguelites with both in-stage and in-between progressions and both worked well.

Though the 1st iteration has always felt clunkier. At least RC has the pause coming with it.

[young vessel]

what if when ellis is ready to provide upgrades, instead of waiting for all dwarves to get in the radius, its like a black box and the more dwarves are in the radius, the faster it charges

[pulsar owl]

it is by no means a bad idea

[young vessel]

[tall plume]

does that mean the dwarves at the other side of the caves, doing who knows what, get the upgrade screen out of nowhere ?

[young vessel]

absolutely

[daring hill]

That's also bad imo

[rigid linden]

any Updates on when new alpha players will be selected?

[pulsar owl]

#rogue-core-suggestions message
this was my opinion on the upgrade system issue

[tall plume]

IMO that's the worst iteration, I'd rather keep what we currently have

[pulsar owl]

recap, have everyone access the screen remotely, but have ellis actually move to the dwarf for their turn

then, some extra features for the screen, for QoL and team composition

[young vessel]

[daring hill]

I still think the best solutions is static upgrade bubbles that are much larger around the map. Midstation or not, having those dedicated areas could help

[tall plume]

I'll be real: I want the stations just because it would look so fucking cool

[pulsar owl]

Leaning into the facilities would be very immersive, gameplay wise

[daring hill]

I'm curious why gsg cut them

[pulsar owl]

were they cut, or just not fully developed?

[young vessel]

they should put bars in the facilities

[daring hill]

Not entirely sure, there's a lot we don't know

[pulsar owl]

Should've asked during the stream, if I didn't go back to sleep

[daring hill]

I think it was cut for pacing, but then why not just make them ignorable?

Similar to upgrades right now. They can be a pacing problem, but you are in full control of when they happen

Players don't have to drop whatever they are doing to start one up

[pulsar owl]

I think having the buildings would be pretty cool, even if they serve no gameplay purpose yet

right now it's mostly just scaffolding, everywhere

it lets players use terrain to their advantage more as well

more strategic decision making :3

[daring hill]

It's either scaffolding or bespoke construction that is worthless once it's relevant event is finished

Take the ramhammer event. You don't think that thing is just a big hunk of scrap metal once you get the expenite?

Gimme full proper rooms, living quarters or even admin

[pulsar owl]

I don't have a strong opinion on the ramhammer yet, but I think it's fine as it is

[daring hill]

This wasn't just people dropping in and out via drop pods, there could have been people living down here

[young vessel]

1% chance for a variant of the facilities to contain a shooting range

[daring hill]

Oh no the event is fine right now (...though the range could be better), it's just odd in-universe

[pulsar owl]

because, realistically, if you put a particle accelerated jackhammer to crack a geode, it's kind of useless beyond that purpose

which ain't a bad thing

[daring hill]

I also want an answer to how all this space is being dug out. We haven't really seen any general purpose diggers yet

[pulsar owl]

I'm going to believe this will all be added eventually

[daring hill]

Give me one of those giant fuckoff drills they have in irl mines

[pulsar owl]

for reference, nitra didn't even exist in the early stages of drg

• this is the first alpha

it's easy to get ahead of ourselves with atmosphere while the core gameloop is still being worked on lol

[daring hill]

Yeah, they even explicitly said on stream earlier that there's more structures coming

[young vessel]

hey so with that one event with the giant weight scale, does it tell us how much a dwarf weighs?

[pulsar owl]

@daring hill Could you give a thought on this?
I'm curious if there's anything blatant i missed

[daring hill]

Now that the message is deleted, that's a very funny set of messages from you

[pulsar owl]

What set of messages :3

[daring hill]

Anyway it's fine, though I could see issues when there are multiple upgrades queued up

And you'd definitely lose seeing the mouse of others

[pulsar owl]

I didn't think of the mouse

I guess i figured that the favorite mechanic would've sufficed as is

[pulsar owl]

Could you explain how so?

[daring hill]

Well, if there are multiple upgrades queued up, you run into the ui issue of showing them all. This'd be a tiny screen with a ton of information to show

Would you scroll between each set? What would happen with scrolling weapons then?

[pulsar owl]

Because the order is randomized between any given upgrade set, couldn't it just do another sequence

[daring hill]

As in, show each queued upgrade set in sequence as you pick one?

But you'd still have to let the player check all existing sets first

[pulsar owl]

So, as an example

Upgrade #1, players 1,2,3,4
Upgrade #2, players 3,2,4,1

After player 4 selects upgrade #1, Ellis will begin a new sequence and travel to player 3 for their turn

Will have to be accompanied with a voice line/indicator that a new sequence has begun

[daring hill]

Oh, I'm mainly talking about the tablet/gauntlet showing upgrades and letting you favourite them, not the actual picking

[pulsar owl]

So that people know that there is new info on the "screen"

I would only show 1 sequences upgrades at a time

Similar to how the current system does it

[daring hill]

But then using the tablet to mark an upgrade early might only work for the first set of upgrades

[pulsar owl]

If the tablet shows a new set of upgrades after the first sequence, couldn't each player favorite from the new set then?

[daring hill]

OK I gotta admit, it is like 5am here right now. I'm going to return to this discussion later once I'm not having trouble like. Digesting what you say

Apologies

[pulsar owl]

Don't worry about it :)

I appreciate you taking the time to discuss it as much as you could

[undone sparrow]

are they accepting new people into the closed alpha or is it shut for good?

[pulsar owl]

#rogue-core-chat message

[sturdy blade]

The assumption is that they will be inviting new players with each update, but I would guess a smaller amount than the initial wave

[hasty rain]

I feel like this would require more stages per run just to make it ‘feel good’
But I am not opposed to it

[hasty rain]

Noita solved this issue. Holy Mountains are effectively the 'safe room' in that game.
When you leave a Holy Mountain, it collapses and stops being a 'safe room'. You otherwise have all the time in the world.

[sage vault]

You have angered the gods(in notia)

[hasty rain]

Like-
Yeah there's a ton of interactions and quirks and stuff (don't damage the Holy Mountain or else you anger the gods, you can teleport past the switch that triggers the collapse, etcetc) but the core of it (what i posted there) is the very true basics of it

So, you COULD have a 'midway safe-room' situation where every dwarf needs to get to a door. Drone opens door. Dwarves enter, drone enters, door closes. Dwarves are now safe, timers stop, all of that, maybe there's a pickup in there.
When the dwarves open the door to leave it ceases to be safe and everything returns to normal. It cannot be made safe again.

(Noita also uses the Holy Mountain safe room as a shop, a place to get perks, and a place to test builds, plus it gives you a one-shot full health and ammo, but obviously you don't have to transfer the entire mechanic)

[native monolith]

“Safe room”

[vocal jewel]

Nothing is truly safe in noita

[hasty rain]

It's as safe as you can get lol

[pulsar owl]

I love noita

But youve also gotta know, everyone tries to cheese the holy mountains

And then there's Steve, and Scott, and the worms

The only safety is completing a 34 orb run

[hasty rain]

HEH

[sullen topaz]

I feel like it would be a good idea to copy the drg mobility tools, but restyle them (with minor gameplay changes)

Like instead of drills, a.. idk high tech wall disintegrator

Cube Platforms printed via laser
That sort of thing

Similar code and skill expression but with wildly different mental effects

[daring hill]

Definitely not, we need more people in.

Even if the players themselves changed, the total players during this initial wave never went above 200

[sturdy blade]

You gotta keep in mind, the devs need an appropriate amount of feedback that they can manage and take to heart

If you have say 2000 players, it's hard to keep track of what each one says about the game, you can get a vibe, but you can't get specific

I think the Alpha is going to be very very small until the point of an Beta

Once it's in Beta, you start to focus on general consensus rather than specific detailed feedback

Alpha testers are basically shaping the foundation of the game, while the beta testers will build on top of that

[daring hill]

its hard to give proper feedback to a game more co-op focused than DRG when there are so few players

after a day or 2, the most you could ever do was duos

and for the past few days up until the test closing? solo only.

this is not a game where you can cheap out on invites, especially when less than a fraction of those players might be on at any given time

[daring hill]

no exact numbers but people reckon 1000 people were invited and I promise you, this hasn't been a problem.

like I get what you are saying, but take it from someone with 26 hours that has been playing since the alpha launched: we NEED more players

[sturdy blade]

You have a point, it is co-op, and I guess the playing solo is an issue the devs might consider because they would want feedback from players who are in groups since the game is designed around that

[daring hill]

yep

and playing solo makes the game dramatically easier, which skews difficulty feedback

[sturdy blade]

I’ve heard players say it gets more difficult on solo

Namely Sniss

[daring hill]

it can depend on a lot of factors, but generally enemy health and amount scales on player count just like DRG

[sturdy blade]

I see, hopefully the next invite wave is soon

[tall plume]

Yeah, because most people won't keep playing and won't join the discord to give feedback either

thank god they went for 1000+, otherwise it wouldn't have been deserted fast lol

I think it's also part of their decision to hand out keys to discord members

[daring hill]

basically:

• not everyone who gets an invite is active.
• not everyone who is active is interested.
• not everyone who is interested can play the game.
• not everyone who can play the game cares to actually install it.
• not everyone who installs the game plays it beyond a couple hours.
• not everyone who plays beyond a few hours decides to give feedback.

you are dealing with smaller and smaller groups every time, constantly lowering the number of invites

[daring hill]

it is funny to see people complain about that and some youtubers/streamers getting access. like, its not taking away slots

its addition only

more people get to play the game and see more footage of the game, at no expense to anyone else

[tall plume]

it's just envy

mostly from people who don't know what playing an alpha is like

it's buggy, janky, has little content

it's really not the best gaming experience - and it doesn't have to be, that's not the point of it

Honestly, GSG really smoothed things up for it lol

[daring hill]

honestly it does actually hurt this game a little bit, looking finished on a surface level

[sturdy blade]

Indeed, tbh I would love to be in the alpha, but not because I’m jealous, but because I really love DRG and would genuinely like to help them make another game

[daring hill]

people who dont care beyond the surface level will assume the game is finished

[sturdy blade]

DRG graphics aren’t known to be the most advanced lmao

[tall plume]

yeah

[sturdy blade]

But if they wanna give discord members invites, I wanna be first in line

[daring hill]

actually i dont think they are doing that anymore

its steam only from now on i think

invited basically everyone they wanted to from here already

[tall plume]

hard to say

I know the people they invited from the discord were based on feedback given during last experimental

[sturdy blade]

Sad, I’ve been doing nothing but theorizing about the game and trying to form feedback, but that’s impossible from just watching gameplay

If I could get my hands on it I would breathe this game

[tall plume]

at least you realise that lol

can't tell you about how many times I've seen people trying to give feedback purely from watching others play

I even got downvoted on the subreddit for pointing this out

[sturdy blade]

Dam lol

Too little people are self aware enough to realize stuff like that

[olive narwhal]

Its pretty crazy to me that any rambling i did in s5 experimental was usefull

[sturdy blade]

Access to Rogue Core Alpha = Orb dies happy

🙏

Pray to the Steam Gods

[crystal echo]

There are really not 1000 invites send out lol, the top players is still 218 players, see https://steamdb.info/app/2860770/charts/ and thats including the +1 steam users got.

My guess is still they send out 200, rest is devs themselves playing

[median sleet]

200 playercount for 12 hours doesn't mean the same 200 players played for 12 hours straight

[crystal echo]

Its overall lol check steamdb

[median sleet]

at least 1000 keys/ invites went out

[median sleet]

No that's max playercount playing at the same time

[crystal echo]

all time peak is still 218

Ah thats true yeah

[median sleet]

Yes, meaning 218 people had the game open at the same time

[crystal echo]

your right, my bad haha 😉

[pulsar owl]

And that's why we only got this channel to talk about it

On the hierarchy of rogue core channels, this one specifically would probably be on the lower end for feedback priority

[daring hill]

yeah

i do wish the discussion and feedback channels were available for everyone else, just read-only

[loud perch]

hey guys I invited a friend for the playtest for deep rock rogue core and it said they didnt have the license even if I had one invite to use
can someone help?
anyone

[median sleet]

Have them check https://store.steampowered.com/account/playtestinvites

[neat acorn]

I clicked that with a very faint hope that maybe I missed a RC inv

nope

just a cringe ahh moba invite

[raven wharf]

That’s concurrent players 🤦‍♂️

Tell me, do people in the US and Europe play the game at the same time?

[tall plume]

it got cleared up already

[loud perch]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

[crystal echo]

Yeah my bad, dont roast me 🙂

[frigid path]

But I already got the flamethrower out and ready

[thin apex]

Wait sum more weeks

[daring hill]

There will not be any invites until they finish the big update they are working on, they'll need time

They even closed down the feedback channels (and presumably bug reports) because anything said after that could already be getting adressed

[round flower]

oh

D:

damn

question tho radial

have u found cures for autism and adhd

if yes then pls send me some

[olive hound]

Nice

[round flower]

not nice

[olive hound]

Yes, waiting is good

[round flower]

no

wait

[olive hound]

Wait = more polished game.
No need to rush anything

[round flower]

is it raining

i think its raining rn

well

anyway

i like buggy games

bc bug = funny

[olive hound]

Not all bugs are funny

[round flower]

oh well

im talking too much i thihnk

[mossy ruin]

yes

[amber creek]

is rogue core good

[hollow bear]

So far, but it's got a lot of work to be done

[fluid jacinth]

Unfinished but solid foundations

[tall plume]

I don't intend to

[pulsar owl]

Has there been any discussion on how picking the artifact risk vector is always heavily prioritized over any available options

[woeful cradle]

hey is there a thing where you can send an access key after playing for awhile?

[pulsar owl]

If you were invited through stream, you should be able to send an invite to a friend (with whom has lasted 30 days).

I believe it should be available from the game overview on steam

Should be a button there I reckon

[woeful cradle]

i signed up for it but im still waiting on an email, and was hoppin someone can help me skip that proccess lol

[pulsar owl]

ah, the 30 day friend thing still applies

so unless you've got someone that long who has a key, you're out of luck

[woeful cradle]

yea, curses lmao

[pulsar owl]

the devs are in the process of implementing feedback and additions etc. So it's only a matter of time until the next playtest

#rogue-core-chat message

Yup, that's the right one

[vagrant locust]

is rouge core offically out or still in beta?

[median sleet]

closed alpha

[vagrant locust]

thanks for the update

[tall plume]

"beta" (aka early access) is coming in Q4 this year

[waxen spruce]

what chances to get playtest?

[pulsar owl]

Impossible to say for certain

[wheat pewter]

~1k people invited for the first wave, only more will gain access from here

[inner granite]

next wave: 1001

[pulsar owl]

I raise you 1000.5

[native monolith]

Atleast 3 people

[compact shard]

I think that the next wave will start 2-3 weeks after the first

[iron stirrup]

3 days

trust

[wheat pewter]

tomorrow

they would definitely do it on a saturday I htink

[astral sluice]

you're a mod so you must be telling the truth

[carmine zenith]

One mod tells nothing but truth, the other only lies. Which is which?

[native monolith]

Does the set up count?

[pliant radish]

For those of y'all that DID get into the first test, what should we less-fortunate dwarves be on the lookout for? Did y'all get an email on the address associated with your Steam account, and/or did you get a notification in Steam's in-app notification area thing?

[pliant radish]

What would the other mod tell me?

[native monolith]

It would be an email from steam

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/american-dad-stan-smith-gun-armed-strapped-gif-2744598330954410962

[olive hound]

Easy, both are lying.

[severe nymph]

True true

Mods actually never tell the truth

[sturdy blade]

Reminds me of the animatic with the barbarian

[olive hound]

Or Samurai Jack

[blissful geyser]

"Why was I banned"
The truth: "I thought it would be funny"

[balmy roost]

do boomticks release radiation after dying?

[compact shard]

Never. The riddle is that one mod will only answer your question(s) with lies, and the other with truth

[sage flame]

what would the first say the other would answer

[median sleet]

They leave particles but I don't think it deals damage

[sage flame]

is there a console release planned

[severe nymph]

Not on there to do list rn but they didn't say they wouldn't do it

They'll probably work on it closer to release

[sage flame]

cool

[raven wharf]

RC will not be launching on consoles until much later once early access is complete.

The good news is the switch 2 has maginally better hardware than the original so people wanting a switch port aren't asking for the impossible this time.

[vocal jewel]

yeah, no real point in developing a bunch of alpha versions for a second platform when you're still in the middle of making major changes

[severe nymph]

A switch port woukd be really funny

Though without crossplay the servers wouldn't be very big I bet

[pulsar owl]

the advantages and disadvantages of p2p

[elder finch]

Daaaamn. I just realized this was in closed alpha. Super excited.

How's everyone's experience so far?

[pulsar belfry]

Is there no way to join the testing?

[elder finch]

Have to submit on steam and then get selected looks like.

[pulsar belfry]

Ok, I hit the button and will have to just hope. TY

[elder finch]

Same:)

[thin siren]

I want crossplay with steam, windows store and console!

[tall plume]

no it wouldn't

[balmy roost]

iirc it's because the elemental damage effects aren't in RC properly yet but I could be wrong

[inner granite]

Where's representation of us, Samsung Smart Fridge players? ):<

[severe nymph]

Yuh huh

[pallid beacon]

I'm not a dev but as I understood it, even if all three versions were the same (or compatible) we'd still need some sort of external server to be able to do crossplay

and that stuff costs money

[severe nymph]

Yeah makes sense

Gsg just needs to make a bazillion dollars and bam easy

[bronze basalt]

The game would run at 13 fps,even with everything set to low, resolution scale to 1% and with mods to disable particles effects etc

[severe nymph]

Probably

Though if the switch two plans to run elden ring it can handle just about anything

[tall plume]

not gonna happen

[ashen condor]

Will there be crossplay between the Switch 2 and N64?

[astral sluice]

gonna happen

[grand sail]

That's the REAL question we should be asking