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[mossy ruin]

so I give it very low chances we get a healer class

[summer tiger]

It doesn't make sense from the lore reason and mechanics. Let's take lore as first. In DRG you are a miner, a low level scrub at the bottom of the food chain. You mine the goods and then you have to evacuate from the cave with the minerals to secure it. There are enemies in the cave that you have to go through. In rogue core you reclaim the whole facility by closing the rift. After you defeat the boss, everything in that facility dies. No matter what level, it dies. Any backtracking would mean going back up the elevator and running through the empty cave just to end the mission.

Mechanics wise, in DRG backtracking allows you to complete other stuff like secondary, events or just get gold. In RC the loop is designed behind getting as much exp to progress and be powerful to fight the boss. In DRG proper you make those preparations in Space Rig. It just doesn't fit the roguelike genre at all.

[daring hill]

I don't think they'll have you go up the elevator, but the other option of taking a drop pod would be similarly boring

None of the elevators reach the first stage on their own except the one connecting stage 1-2

[summer tiger]

There is a piece of equipment that all enemies within the radius drop red sugar. Not to mention other exp upgrades that give you extra health, increase effectiveness of red sugar or make enemies drop health. So there's plenty of options.

[daring hill]

They do explicitly plan something to cap off a run at the end of the boss, so the question is mainly what an extraction will entail

Though it's possible they may come to the same conclusion as you and just do nothing, I hope they dont

A fade out feels lame

Def feels awkward

[summer tiger]

It's pretty much the same ending as with all roguelites- Enter The Gungeon, Slay the Spire, Hades etc. All the cutscenes are just fancy fades.

[neon helm]

Oh. I havent seen any gameplays from rc so i had no idea of that

[daring hill]

Honestly it's a crazy idea but hear me out: what if there's just a teleporter? The game is missing a lot of construction that isn't either catwalks, platforms, or constructions that are explicitly bespoke for one purpose only (except the cargo bay.) What if there's some lab down there with prototype teleporter technology? Here's how I'm thinking:

Corestones starting popping up, r&d realises that the crawlers are teleporting in from rifts, so they decide "why don't we dig deeper within hoxxes, and try to figure out these rifts and potentially develop teleporation technology?"

They do that, experiment with the rifts, and fuck up massively, opening the rift. You clean up the rift, and gain access to a teleporter out.

You get an ending that has a little more fanfare and isn't as awkward, while also being short and quick as long as its tuned well

No starting it up, no extra cave or hallway, just have a teleporter lab in the next room and you can leave

[gilded rock]

and so they left...

[neon helm]

I would find it funny if the drop pod landed near the team in rc

[mossy ruin]

their souls still left on the planet

[delicate flax]

Those rifts are portals.

Either that or the crawlers tunnel to the source of the core stone

[sturdy blade]

If DRG (The company) had teleporters, I'm sure they wouldn't waste money on things like drop pods

[neon helm]

I always had the feeling that drg cuts costs wherever they can and rogue core seems to prove this

Why waste money on a expensive teleporter when a rusty drop pod works just fine

[inner granite]

You saw those prices for teleporter juice

[sturdy blade]

Which means even if they had the money for teleporters, they probably wouldn't invest

[neon helm]

It would be worth it for the reclaimers but not for the regular combat miners

But still it isnt like the reclaimers would need a teleporter

[inner granite]

It costs 19000c$ to teleport this thing... Fkr 19 seconds

[inner granite]

And to be honest, due to core barrier it wouldn't probably work anyway

If good old mc can't send his anger at us, i don't think that material stream would work

[pulsar owl]

This is probably a stretch of an idea, but you could have the reclaimers be forced into the pit, and have an entire escape sequence there where they finally escape through a rift to a zone they can be extracted from

[hasty rain]

“We have detected a gravitational anomaly within the gateway itself. This is your escape route. Enter the pit and fight your way through.”

[pulsar owl]

It would give an opportunity for builds to actually shine as well, since having the gatekeeper be the only place to actually use a final build is pretty underwhelming

This can also segue into an infinite mode, but there's a lot of thought needed for logistics of one

[rustic matrix]

you jump into the pit and get teleported to a place akin to zen from half life 1 where the corespawns are coming from, and you can keep going for endless mode or jump into a portal to go for extraction

it could work

[neon helm]

I need a random event in rogue core where a lost scout roams the level and actually lights up the caves

[gilded rock]

then falls down a cliff and dies

[severe nymph]

Adoptable scout

[pulsar owl]

Would be more functionally an upgrade for Ellis

[neon helm]

Falls down a cliff, gets snatched by a cave leech then gets hit by a random hiper propellant grenade

[pulsar owl]

I believe the devs mentioned that implementing a 2 legged grounded entity would be completely infeasible given the pathfinding difficulties

[neon helm]

Then make it run in all fours

[pulsar owl]

I should probably rephrase lmao, if it don't crawl (on walls) or fly, then its too difficult

[sullen bobcat]

That's what a grapple hook is for, no?

[neon helm]

I have seen some scouts standing on walls like they are some kind of goat so i dont see the problem

[turbid yarrow]

Does anyone know where Rogue Core stores the save file?

[raven wharf]

I'm on linux, but the location should be similar off of AppData
/home/username/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/2605790/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Local/RogueCore/Saved

[alpine crane]

i cant stop swinging my pickaxe and i cant do anything else does anyone know how to fix it?

[tacit urchin]

Try pressing rmb

It usually works

[alpine crane]

it just heavy attacked and continud swinging

[tacit urchin]

Oh wow

[alpine crane]

yeah lol

ima try reinstal the game

[tacit urchin]

The nuclear option

[alpine crane]

it did not fix it😭

[inner granite]

Bro yearns to the mines

[alpine crane]

Yes bro just let me rock and stone!

[finite tundra]

Rock and stone should be its own genre of music

It just all sounds like the deep rock sound track

[inner granite]

We have dwarf rock

[finite tundra]

I love wind rose

[wintry cliff]

I didnt get access but I also wont watch videos about it cuz I dont want to be spoiled

this is torture

windrose is kinda... mid? they have one tone and all their songs are copypaste :/

there is defo better power metal to be had

[opal warren]

i signed up a while ago, and didnt get in and i heard if you have a code from someone else thats in u can get in, does anyone have an extra code?

[pulsar owl]

Inviting doesn't work for everyone, and for those whom it does, you need to have been friends for minimum 30 days

[opal warren]

😔

thanks for the info tho

[wintry cliff]

I signed up the day they announced sign ups but no luck

[opal warren]

same

[pulsar owl]

A very limited number of invites were sent for the first wave

if I were to highball, maybe 10% of people got in at most

[thorny merlin]

I'm gonna keep praying to Karl I get in the next wave

🙏

[simple cloak]

😩 rogue

[finite tundra]

By Karl’s name may we pray we make it into the next wave

[proven sphinx]

Is access entirely chance?

[median sleet]

yeah

[surreal sinew]

Yup

[proven sphinx]

damn

with 1k hrs in DRG I expected greater chances

[surreal sinew]

oh dude same i got 600

Hopefully in the next wave

[proven sphinx]

playing since christmas 2021

[median sleet]

They also want players with little/ no DRG playtime

[proven sphinx]

boooo

did I say 1k? I mean 1.0 hour

[surreal sinew]

Lmao

I think they just want a mixed bag

[proven sphinx]

I love roguelikes and DRG so I thought this game might just be perfect

is it known when the next wave of invites will come?

[surreal sinew]

From looking at people playing it , it looks really good for an alpha build

[median sleet]

no

[old swift]

in the future

[delicate flax]

if you were in bug hunter s4 you have a higher chance than others i believe

[delicate flax]

i'm curious where you did hear about this, can you link it?

most of the players ive seen that got in were experienced players and had been in the discord for quite some time

could be just bias though

[wheat river]

the more diverse pool of players the more diverse feedback. (for example, if only very experience drg players were invited we wouldn't find out about things only new players struggle with and vice versa, for the enterity of the experience spectrum)

[wheat river]

But yes, odds are higher that players that sign up for the playtest are already drg players

[young vessel]

what about players who have ~2000 hours in-game but was afflicted by a curse that caused them to forget all of their playtime? asking for a friend

[delicate flax]

thanks

[wheat river]

good news, just as high chance of getting in as anyone else 🙂

[young vessel]

yippee!!

[pulsar owl]

Same chance as my friend who's never even heard of drg :)

[frail heron]

Literally everyone who didn't get a key to Rogue Core:
https://youtu.be/ZVg1UVlljwQ?si=4ljH4hba5KWJ6rTF

[north steeple]

longest ive seen a link last in here

[uneven oracle]

DUDE FR
WHY DID KARL FORSAKE US!
WE'RE GOOD DWARFS TOO

[finite tundra]

I’m a player who’s good at making everything go wrong. I have such bad luck my friends now consider me to be a worse omen than a black cat.

So if you need to test rng elements I can help.🥲

I’m never stepping foot in a casino

I failed a coin flip 14 times in a row today

I don’t even know what the chance is of that

I just looked it up

0.00604248%

I am never getting access via any sort of random chance

[uneven oracle]

coincedentally i am the "luckiest" person in MY friendgroup
on the condition that what i demand from fate is "funny"
more like a fae trickster in the regard of "oh hey buddy have you been grinding for something for an hour? NEXT DROP I CURSE IS THE WORST DROP POSSIbLE"
and it happens

fate all comes into favor when i dont expect what i want

[north patio]

does anyone know how many keys they gave out?

[carmine zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/sun-conure-keyboard-destroyed-pet-bird-plucked-keyboard-viralhog-gif-15238322

[delicate flax]

I heard somewhere it was around 200 for the first batch, don't quote me on it

[north patio]

ah thanks for the help

[pearl axle]

With how incomplete it looks, I dont mind not playing it. I would rather it marinate and get to play the finished product

[finite tundra]

As somebody who finds immense joy in finding bugs

I want to go in there and mess everything up

[pearl axle]

You know that is really weird, but extremely respectable

[finite tundra]

Glitches I call that free content

[keen wind]

What is rogue core

[finite tundra]

The amount of joy you feel when you managed to clip through a wall and get sent 7000 miles away in the middle of space while your friends watch you laughing hysterically is unmatched.

[finite tundra]

New game

Same universe

About the same look

Different gameplay

[raven wharf]

pinned messages

[keen wind]

What type of game is it? Roguelike?

[finite tundra]

Different time

[finite tundra]

Rogue lite

[keen wind]

Ok cool, I liked dead cells so they seem something around the same thing. Hope it turns out good, will it have different characters since it’s a different time?

[finite tundra]

I think it’s a rogue lite it could be rogue like

I don’t have access

[gaunt ingot]

am i the only one who doesnt really like that every weapon can get elemental upgrades and would rather just have the driller primaries and keep the electrical weapons more distinguished?

[finite tundra]

I can’t confirm either way and even if I did have access it’s too unfinished to fully know

[finite tundra]

I do think the weapons should all have their own unique ability and use cases yes

[keen wind]

Wait what’s the difference between rouge lite and rouge like?

[finite tundra]

Rogue like is a full reset after each round

Full progress wipe

Rogue lite has something that saves

[keen wind]

Ok so like dead cells then

Yeah I would buy it

[finite tundra]

It’s not bought rn

U win the early access lottery

[keen wind]

It’s not out I know

[gaunt ingot]

rogue core falls more under roguelite in its current state

[finite tundra]

What I thought

[keen wind]

I need all the information on this game IMMEDIATELY

[finite tundra]

I prefer rogue lite personally

[young vessel]

they got live streams and videos

[neon helm]

Check the steam page

[keen wind]

Ok

[finite tundra]

The planets core has been taken over the reclaimers are sent in to take back control. You play as different classes in a mainly multiplayer experience. Collecting ores which give you experience to get tons of upgrades and weapons to progress further making different funny builds and progressing. Every level has its own timer before you get rushed by absolute hell. You fight through the unique enemies use your abilities and progress as far as you can or until you end the mission

[gaunt ingot]

you get bio boosters and chip upgrades
though there is pretty minimal pre run upgrades as of now
its still majority progress contained within each mission and reset when its over
we could see more of a shift in the future though

[finite tundra]

There is the slicer which carries an energy sword activated via ability that does massive area damage to multiple enemies

[neon helm]

Elaborate on what happens when the timer runs out

[keen wind]

Will they have a setting to turn on music from the other games? I would assume this game has its own music, but they would have a setting to let you listen to the music from DRG or DRS?

[finite tundra]

Shit hits the fan

You get RUSHED

[severe nymph]

You die in real life

[gaunt ingot]

basically yea lol

[severe nymph]

They fucking get you

[neon helm]

Sounds funny

[finite tundra]

It’s anxiety inducing

[gaunt ingot]

they take your lunch money

[keen wind]

You spontaneously combust into thousands of bugs

[finite tundra]

Only funny after you are already dead

[finite tundra]

No thousands of bugs spontaneously combust you

[neon helm]

It still sounds like fun to me

[finite tundra]

Also the slicer sword animation is stiff and gives ultrakill parry animation vibes

[neon helm]

Can we tame the core spawn?

[finite tundra]

I don’t believe so

What would that be called it’s not a steeve

[neon helm]

Bob

[finite tundra]

Isn’t steeve an acronym tho

What does bob stand for

[gaunt ingot]

i really hope gsg decides to port all original drg weapons into rogue core
reworking certain weapons as they already have with some
it would make sense
like were drillers running into the caves with drills, c4, and reworked subata and nothing else?
itd just be more fun
driller rep in rogue core rn is severely lacking from what ive seen

[finite tundra]

Oh god

Not the c4

[neon helm]

Bob stands for bob

[finite tundra]

ANYTHING BUT THE C4

Read my roles real quick

I have ptsd

[old swift]

tbh i don't think the original drg ones are working very well right now

the ones designed for rogue core feel a lot better

[neon helm]

What about C5?

[finite tundra]

Do you know why I have a blue name?

[old swift]

across the board

[gaunt ingot]

drillers running in there with six satchel charges
thats how the gray out started

[finite tundra]

Isn’t that just a music youtuber

[finite tundra]

PLEASE NO

Drillers are my natural predators

They use C4 to hunt me

[gaunt ingot]

also
you should not be able to have SIX CHARGES on your shield
that is absurdly broken
the default should be like 2

[finite tundra]

Yeah

[gaunt ingot]

since resupplies are fairly generous

[neon helm]

Well... it sounds lore accurate that the combat miners weapons perform worse than the reclaimer weapons

[gaunt ingot]

and then you can roll one that has 3 or even 4
not 6 though

[finite tundra]

I mean lore accurate doesnt always equal fun

[neon helm]

I know

[finite tundra]

Imagine you fought lore accurate Vergil in DMC

If you know who that is

[gaunt ingot]

im not a playtester, so i dont know for sure qwq
i just see the vision
having no driller primaries though is a slight turn off for me
im a bit ambivalent on whether id play it as often as odrg (original drg) or not

[neon helm]

I havent seen any gameplays of rogue core so i cant give any opinions on how the drg weapons are working on rc right now

[old swift]

gk2 (bad), drak (bad), zhukovs (bad), boomstick (usually bad), m1k (fine-ish), subata (above zhukovs), stubby (bad), bulldog (usually bad)

[finite tundra]

They have long dev streams

[finite tundra]

Ok but when shotgun jumping

[old swift]

for some reason most of the stock drg weapons have absurdly terrible handling

[finite tundra]

As a scout main I want my shotgun jumping

[gaunt ingot]

ill still buy it tho and thats part of the goal with a company making a game so it might not matter lol

[neon helm]

I just want to see everything by myself once the early access gets released or i get lucky to join the closed beta

[finite tundra]

I mean it’s incredibly early

Porting weapons probably came before or after they were making the new ones

Not at the same time

So it wouldn’t be picked up as much the issues between the two

[finite tundra]

Closed alpha is still on the table

Are you in the steam lottery?

There will be a second wave

[finite tundra]

And even if this is wrong

Balancing hard

That’s a fact of life

And game development

[gaunt ingot]

yea
i will say
in pre alpha footage
we saw cryo cannon on an upgrade screen
and we saw flamethrower in dev q&a footage, and now im not seeing them in any footage ive watched

• any weapon can freeze and deal acid
  it seems like they could be considering cutting them from the game from my pov
  or maybe there are just too many issues at the moment
  i do not know

[finite tundra]

It’s something they probably don’t want to worry about balancing or fixing

[gaunt ingot]

they could also just be incredibly rare and ive never seen anyone roll it
if only i could play the alpha to find out ;-;

[finite tundra]

They are very particle heavy

Status effects can be wonky

Especially with stacking

There’s just a lot of room for error

[old swift]

none of the driller primaries are in

[neon helm]

Yeah im praying to karl every day to get in

[old swift]

there's some new status effect system/handling with a couple more combos like temp shock but it's not fully implemented

[gaunt ingot]

thats fair

[old swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/891535386977919020/1370934577136402554/image.png?ex=68214dd1&is=681ffc51&hm=b7e252c3a0e03a9d4efac0786dd7f594dfb8cf92549be03ad94ad22a588a90ee&

[gaunt ingot]

but i hope it could be a future consideration

[gaunt ingot]

woa :0

stuffs

[rare dune]

Hey Dev's can I get Rogue Core Alpha access for my birthday? (Its the 13th)

[neon helm]

Is the minigun in rc?

[finite tundra]

We can only hope

[old swift]

all the gunner primaries are

i haven't seen hurricane tho

[rare dune]

right now yes but might be placeholder

[deep skiff]

Most of the DRG weapons are in Rogue Core, yes. Including all the Gunner heavy weaponry.

[neon helm]

I dont need to hear anything else

[rare dune]

Pretty please
-# with a cherry on top????

[finite tundra]

Engineer primaries sitting in the corner alone

[deep skiff]

Its rare to get it but its missiles are like mini nukes lol

[neon helm]

As long as they replace it with a reclaimer counterpart im happy

[rare dune]

I should ask when they're actually awake :/

[finite tundra]

Rock and Stone my dwarves let’s create some chaos

[finite tundra]

They respond to the most questions at 2-4 am

I would know

[severe nymph]

where even is gsg headquarters located

[rare dune]

but all of them are idle or DnD

[neon helm]

Is the bulk detonator in rc?

[severe nymph]

yes

[neon helm]

Fun

[severe nymph]

its a crassus like bulk

its a expenite bulk an it works just as a crassus do

its pretty neat

i hope it stays

ive heard from some that the event itself is too long to be worth while

which sounds like a bit of a problem

[old swift]

a classic

except unlike a crassus 95% of the time if you try to mine every part of the expenite bulk you die

[severe nymph]

yeah

i hope theres a way around the negetives when the game fully launches

cus the idea that the previous dwarves took some bulks to do testing on sounds rad

[finite tundra]

Denmark

[severe nymph]

sick

[neon helm]

Maybe they could change the crassus effect to something like a lootbug explosion instead?

[severe nymph]

yeah makes sense theyd be answering questions pretty late for most

[severe nymph]

five million chunks of expenite

[finite tundra]

Take EST and add 6 hours

[neon helm]

Merge the chunks

[severe nymph]

oh you mean like actual crystals

yeah drop a few of those could work

[neon helm]

Yeah something like that maybe

[rare dune]

Also been watching more videos (coping with not having access) and almost everyone I watch complains about how you all need to stop what you're doing to group up for the shared upgrade. Now I like that the upgrades are shared so there's strategy and communication involved, but it would make a world of difference that once an upgrade is ready, instead of a group up and popup that pauses the game, what if when an upgrade is ready you get a little option to press a button to toggle the upgrade screen, and if its not your pick you can favorite an item if you want and then leave the screen to keep dwarfing and then once its your pick there's a little notification sound/popup in the bottom corner to let you know so you toggle back in and make your choice

the typa stuff I would be suggesting if I had alpha access 😭

but no need for everyone spread out to come back together for one choice, and no pausing and halting the otherwise fast paced content, but still retains the collective upgrade pool and need for strategy and communication

[hasty rain]

What I’ve proposed is that when an upgrade is ready, it pops up a timer on screen and then when that runs out it pauses things and goes to the upgrade screen
Probably have it engage a slowmo during the last couple seconds, and then have a slowmo-into-full-speed when leaving the menu

[rare dune]

ahh I like that too. I've heard a complaint that sitting there waiting for 3 other teammates to make a choice can be real boring tho

[hasty rain]

In all footage I’ve watched there’s lots of moments of exactly that
The game’s 10 minute pace really encourages scattering

[tiny hemlock]

hopefully they actually add a shooting range in DRGRC

[rare dune]

but either way I think removing the "everyone group up" would give much better flow

[hasty rain]

“Anyone can start objectives, you have to clump for upgrades” is bizarre

[rare dune]

with your idea it could be that standing next to ellis speeds up the timer so you get the upgrade sooner, but you dont have to be there

If no one stands in ellis's bubble it's like 60 seconds, and every subsequent dwarf halfs the time? idk

in the current version if ellis is sitting waiting for all 4 dwarfs can you call her to move to you?

[gritty matrix]

its fine because you’re already dedicated to waiting in the circle. idk ive never felt like the pacing was bad

the dedicated standinthecircle time means we sit in menu for a min

[fast sable]

Guys, how can I get the identity of the Rogue Core Alpha Testing?
I have played Rogue Core for 11 hours.

I'm new to Discord

[olive narwhal]

Discord link when you start the game to get the testing channels

[spice jolt]

do the barrier bots come from the drop pod?

[fast sable]

Ur my hero thank you🫡

Got it

[north steeple]

There seems to be a glitch in the closed alpha, it seems that I havent gotten my access key yet. Devs please fix so I may continue to Rock and Stone

[severe nymph]

Weird must be a pretty wide spread glitch cus I never got one either

Odd......

[hallow nimbus]

It would be actually nice if we at least knew how much ppl exactly they get per wave, before the wave

[north steeple]

my guess is roughly 300-500, judging by SteamDB stats

[tiny hemlock]

I'm saving my money for when DRGRC comes out

btw is it true that owners of DRG gets like a discount in release? or nah

[simple cloak]

That’s what I heard way back, could’ve changed by now /shrug

#rogue-core-chat message

[tiny hemlock]

welp, I gotta start saving money and even if the discount isn't a thing, atleast I got enough to buy it even in full price

[neon helm]

I think i saw somewhere in the rogue core steam page that they will make a bundle with drg and rc so the people that own drg have a discount

[hollow palm]

Will sins in my current life disqualify me from rogue core alpha access?

[severe nymph]

Probably

[hollow palm]

Drat

[civic hemlock]

Is it just me or does OMEGA seem too friendly?

[severe nymph]

Not really

To the dwarves sure but he's very blood thirsty for everyone that's on thay planet

Probably program to do such

[sturdy blade]

"Kill anything that didn't come down with you on the drop pod."

-OMEGA

[tall plume]

yeah it's definitely annoying, though a few solutions have already been thrown around, we'll see how it goes in the future

Personally, I think it'd be better to just gather expenite and have the upgrade pick-ups happen between levels

[sturdy blade]

Or perhaps, add a central structure that you can send ELLIS to send expenite too, with individual spots for each dwarf

So ellis would maybe even just move on his own

To deposit expenite, but considering the lore is that he uses the same tech as Molly to be larger on the inside, i doubt that will happen.

[daring hill]

personally my problem is waiting for players to get to ellis

not the upgrading itself

after... oh god, 23 hours

the upgrading process usually doesn't take long

i usually just play with randoms, and people typically just heart what they want in the first turn and then pick it immediately

[sturdy blade]

Well yea, what we're talking about

[daring hill]

i wouldn't like that, just because you'd lose the clutch of health skip

also honestly the wait between stages is long enough

cant imagine having to do like 2-3 further upgrades every single time, maybe more

[sturdy blade]

Yea, I think it's hard to coordinate 4 players to do the same thing at the same time in a timely manner, no matter how like-minded they are

[gritty matrix]

you’re telling me your teams are coordinated enough that you dont end up doing bulk upgrades most of the time?

()

[tall plume]

I find that better than having to wait around for people to gather at one point and breaking pace during the level, personally

[gritty matrix]

i think what someone said about making it more obvious that there are upgrades available is probably all that needs to be done

[old swift]

i think the immediacy of upgrades is already not great

delaying that until the end of a stage sounds even less so

the current system will imo inevitably be terrible and unfun in pubs if it lasts until full release

[sturdy blade]

With how the "picking in order" system works, I just think that's why all the dwarfs need to be in one place

So it's kinda the "shared item pool" that makes it so inconvenient

[daring hill]

Could have it be before unlocking the elevator?

[sturdy blade]

Problem again of all 4 dwarves having to be there for the picking order

[daring hill]

Get to the elevator, and activating it gives a larger bubble

[neon helm]

From what im reading here the "forced to stay close together because molly is to damn slow" isnt working too well in rc

[daring hill]

Nope

Ellis is super fast

The problem is the players not getting there quick, not ellis

[neon helm]

Yeah but having to group up for upgrades reminds me of that

[daring hill]

Oh you mean in comparison to drg, right

[neon helm]

So now the problem isnt molly being to slow, is the players not grouping too fast

Sounds like an average drg pub to me

[sturdy blade]

I think we just need a system that isn't about getting the dwarves all in place together

[daring hill]

tbh: I think this is something that needs more data

Until the next wave or 2 it should wait and it should be tweaked instead

Make the bubble bigger, make it activate early

[neon helm]

I havent seen any gameplay but why have the need to group up at all? Why cant the upgrades start despite where the players are?

[sturdy blade]

Because it could mess with gravity, could happen at inconvenient times, could mess up a bunch of animations, could be pressing a button, only to have it fail due to the popup

There's a lore more, but that's why you can't do it at every time

[neon helm]

Good point

[sturdy blade]

The game just needs a better way to get every dward in the same spot, Think about the drillevator.

But the issue with something like that is doing it in a timely manner in RC

[tall plume]

making it bigger would definitely help a bit but it's still breaking pacing

[daring hill]

But if more data still proves its a problem, here's some ideas:

1. Starting the elevator grants a larger upgrade bubble, so players who wait can get bulk upgrades. Generally, unless the terrain is miserable or things are going terribly wrong, players will group up near the elevator.
2. Players can "ready up". If all 4 do it, the upgrade process immediately starts. This can only happen if Ellis is grounded, every player is grounded, and no-one is activating anything. This is also in addition, not replacing standing near the drone. The idea here is players who are too far away and know they are too far away. Maybe it could take longer to start up as a balancing measure

[tall plume]

hence why I thought between levels.
You're already waiting anyway.

[tall plume]

should put it in feedback btw

[daring hill]

Aye

[old swift]

why does the greyout barrier have a bubble to open it?

[neon helm]

I like how 2 sounds

[inner granite]

We blast it with high energy beams until it opens

It doesn't want to open

But no one asked what it wants

[sturdy blade]

But then there's the problem of upgrades feeling too infrequent, or even that if you get multiple, you won't be able to "feel out" the upgrades you just got, instead having them all kinda mesh together (I wish there was better words to explain this)

[daring hill]

I think there still should be an incentive to group up for an upgrade, and I'm not sure I like the idea of removing that entirely, rather than having an additional option to start one immediately

[tall plume]

it's not the only solution, mind you, but I think one of the other i thought about was already tried so not sure if it's any good proposing it again.

[sturdy blade]

I don't think being able to start the upgrade process remotely is a good idea either, the 'ready up' feature could lead to either 1. People forgetting or 2. Intentionally holding the lobby (as host)

[old swift]

i don't know how exactly to handle it but i don't like currently how the HUD seems to try and force upgrade selection immediately

it gets kinda awkward

[daring hill]

That can happen anyway

[old swift]

like you deposit expenite 50m behind your team, then the bubble pops up quick and says "player waiting for upgrade", then some people decide "oh it's time to turn around and go upgrade"

[daring hill]

Forever preventing progress is already a thing

[sturdy blade]

Which is the biggest flaw with the current system

They need a system that isn't "picking order" for this problem to be solved

Unless GhostShip are actual genuis masterminds, I don't think the issue of "Waiting for players" can be fixed.

[glad vessel]

Guys every video of someone in the closed alpha makes me want it more I’m gonna lose it

[daring hill]

Picking order? Imo the problem is still the wait to upgrade, not the wait of upgrading

[neon helm]

The magic fix to not having to wait for players is playing solo

[hollow palm]

Maybe the issue is upgrades being tied to the deposit.

I get that it “forces” players to be someplace at once because everyone wants to deposit, but maybe a static zone players can actually plan around or use to upgrade in downtime works?

The issue with that is you’ll have people more likely ignore a group gathering for longer

[old swift]

tbh i didn't mind how roboquests handles it

[sturdy blade]

The whole reason you need to wait to upgrade is because you need all 4 players there. You need all 4 players because there's an order you choose upgrades in, you CANNOT do it one by one in this current system.

[old swift]

you press T i think and bring up the upgrade menu at any time

[tall plume]

Perhaps they should go back to what they tried before, AKA having midstation in the "middle" of a stage, which is where you'd be able to upgrade

so yeah pretty much Roboquest

[sturdy blade]

Does roboquest have shared item pools?

[old swift]

no

i don't know of anything that does

[tall plume]

no, but it's also not co-op

[long breach]

I was just thinking about the game pausing when youre picking an upgrade

[sturdy blade]

That's what they had before?

That's a much better system tho..

[tall plume]

I believe so

but it's also copy/pasted from roboquest

[old swift]

roboquest is co-op but the game isn't paused while you upgrade

[hollow palm]

Yeah but roboquest doesn’t have you choose between teammates upgrades.

Do you mean a global ready up system? Everyone presses T?
Or one person presses T and it sends a menu to everyone

[sturdy blade]

If a "midstation" was in the game before, i seriously think they should just go back to it, it sounds much better

[old swift]

no, one person presses it and chooses their upgrade when they are able to choose it

[inner granite]

Acually, why not? Make in a way that players can recive their upgrades even when team is far away, other players just have it pending
And pick order is just first comes first serve

[tall plume]

what I mean by that is that you can indeed play with someone else, so it's 2 player max

that's about where the player interaction stops

[hollow palm]

The pause is necessary for the team upgrade selection.

[old swift]

oh, yeah

[tall plume]

so "co-op" is not really co-op, it's just solo but with someone else

[sturdy blade]

That means one player can be first every time, making it annoying for every other player on the team

[neon helm]

What about both? So if people dont want/cant group up with ellis they can just go there

[hollow palm]

In defense of roboquest - I occasionally have to ping a weapon on the floor I think my buddy might like to use

[sturdy blade]

Good idea

[daring hill]

Huh, I was wondering why there was midstation music in the game files! Thought it was ramrod music yet to be implemented.

Honestly I don't mind that coming back. It'd also be a nice breather in harder/longer missions

[hollow palm]

And I guess toaster also exists

[inner granite]

Why only one?
Player A deposited last few exp, so he's first in the zone, picks first

But then player B found big chunk of exp, so now B is first

[tall plume]

I like Roboquest to death but it's not really good for co-op, just like Risk of Rain.

Those games are solo games with a multiplayer mode, but no actual co-op.

[sturdy blade]

I seriously don't know where you're going with this..

Either way, it should be random in every universe

[hollow palm]

Meaning people would/could snipe upgrades.
If the goal is everyone getting to be first equally, why settle for any other version besides “everyone takes turns going first”

[tall plume]

I assume they got reasons as to why this was changed. Also, it's just my understanding from the little bits I know. Maybe it was actualy completely different, lol.

[hollow palm]

This also means that your support tool and choice of task is functionally your exp multiplier

[daring hill]

I agree it should be in turns but: this will probably change as more people get in, but playing with randoms I could count the cases of upgrading sniping on one hand.

[hollow palm]

By sniping I meant sniping the take first turn slot

[daring hill]

Yeah

[old swift]

i don't have very much faith in a shared item selection pool tbh

[hollow palm]

Wait so how can you take more first turns than intended..?

[daring hill]

Tbh there's already a lot of unspoken etiquette in DRG, I dont see why that can't keep going here? such as players who have the first taking allowing others to pick upgrades first

[tall plume]

people who want to grief will grief no matter what anyway

[inner granite]

In DRG there is just as much grief options as in RC

But it doesn't happens

[tall plume]

I mean, it does

[inner granite]

Grefer could waste events, eat every single resup cube...

[tall plume]

sometimes

[inner granite]

That sometimes is around as rare as winning the lotery

In my 700h i saw rude players, clueless players but never griefer

They are rare species

[sturdy blade]

Either way, if you are the host of your lobbies, you will never have griefers, because you will simply kick them

Also, we need to keep in mind that RC is a different game and will inevitably have a different crowd, when all is said and done, people will have their preference

[daring hill]

And griefing hurts everyone even more than DRG

[neon helm]

We need more rocks and stones in rc

[digital chasm]

where to get a keys?

[olive narwhal]

You sign up in steam and wait for the next wave

[pine skiff]

You can also sign up to the email newsletter for extra chances

[tall plume]

sign up on the steam store page and pray

[median sleet]

Idk if they're still gonna send keys via the newsletter

[pine skiff]

Yeah maybe that was only the first wave

I got lucky through the newsletter, but the newsletter keys didn't give the +1

[digital chasm]

damn then im sinner

[median sleet]

They said so on the Steam page. However some people, like content creators, did recieve key from the devs themselves. Also people who signed up had most likely already played DRG.

[neon helm]

Will they give me a key if i find karl?

[daring hill]

I myself got a key for helping a ton with reporting bugs during the season 5 experimental

[tall plume]

good luck on your quest

[daring hill]

Anyway the next waves will not be nearly as small

And I hope the next one is sooner rather than later

Right now they are working on a bigger update, letting feedback simmer and considering it all, and working on new content. Next wave might be when that hits?

Big maybe though

[tall plume]

I don't think they know themselves yet

[daring hill]

The button to start a wave is being held hostage

The ransom is 5000 dollars

[quartz zephyr]

Send the reclaimer after it

Reclaimers*

[neon helm]

Ill go rob a bank, give me a few hours

[olive narwhal]

I await the update dedicated to adding breach cutter

[tall plume]

assuming it gets into the game

[olive narwhal]

I can hope

[neon helm]

Yeah we need the gliphid peeler 9000 in rc

[wheat river]

3

[fringe narwhal]

4

[severe nymph]

5

Why are we counting

[rare dune]

6!

[severe nymph]

Intriguing

[hexed thorn]

7?

[severe nymph]

This is getting out of hand

[inner granite]

721

[median sleet]

You've broken the chain. 7 people will get invited next wave.

[rare dune]

LETS GO IT WAS A TEST

[tall plume]

since you broke the chain, nobody gets invited

also we're refunding all the other invites

[inner granite]

Maname was first to break the chain

[daring hill]

It's a countdown from 3. GSG will be making Earth's core rogue.

[median sleet]

oh I see lol

[inner granite]

He went from 5 to 720

[rare dune]

3-7 should be rewarded

[median oar]

literally nobody on roguecore 🙏

im onrl

onely

lonely

[tall plume]

early for Europe, and even more early for the US

make sense

[wheat river]

This was one of my birds, happy she has people to talk to on the internet tho keep it up

[tall plume]

always the birds

[wheat river]

Sometimes it's me being unhinged

But yes often the birds

You should have known it was the birds I can't count to 3

[rare dune]

can those of us who said 4-7 get alpha access?

[delicate flax]

I'm banning you from alpha access

[rare dune]

😟

[forest rain]

Guys i have a question, i want to gift my friend the game and he doesnt really have a good laptop, is the game gonna run smooth?

[tall plume]

probably not

it's not really optimized currently

[rare dune]

yeah an alpha access isnt gonna have much optimization I'd imagine

[severe nymph]

I do hope it does get well optimized

Cus my puter isn't good either

[tall plume]

it probably will, just not now

[lyric kayak]

I got a bug to report, should I just post it here?

[severe nymph]

I grow more excited with each passing day

[tall plume]

for RC ?

[lyric kayak]

Yep

[tall plume]

assuming you have alpha access, click the ingame link (multiple times, if needs be) to join the closed channels

and report the bug in the appropriate section

[severe nymph]

I sat down and listened to the drg soundtrack and WOW

I can't wait tocsee what rv brings

I love deep rock music graaaah

[lyric kayak]

Aight, I'll do that when I get to my PC. Still have the Youtube vid for it though.

Should I post it to #report-a-bug anyway?

[wheat river]

No wait and post it in the proper channel for it so it gets looked at by the proper people

[median oar]

RAHHHHH

fighting the exponite bulk but a swarm appears and i die 3 times

[severe nymph]

Maybe erm uhm uuuhkill them before they kill you

Kill anything that didn't come with you on the drop pod

[runic pivot]

oh boy when they said a limmited ammount of people they sure had one https://steamdb.info/app/2860770/charts/

[wicked fractal]

hello im just curios but will the contestents for rouge core that didnt get the key will still get it after a while cus i really love the new designes and mechanics of a rouge like element to the game

[daring hill]

yes

there is no schedule but every so often a new invite wave will happen

[wicked fractal]

ok thanks

[quartz hazel]

has the dev mentioned any plans to shields? getting most HP and shields from ammo boxes feels kinda off for a rogue game. maybe giving each character some shield-gaining mechanics in their skills could help with resource flow?

[mossy ruin]

but you don't get any hp from ammo boxes

[pulsar owl]

Point still stands barring hp

To the upgrade discussion 4 hours or so prior, my two cents is that each player should be to pull up the menu on their gauntlet whenever there is an upgrade available, this would be for the purposes of favoriting or just seeing the upgrades in general.

Then for actually picking up the upgrades, having Ellis move to the dwarf in turn order allowing them to pick up their upgrade.

This increases complexity when it comes to
Mission time, as everything will happen without pause in gameplay
Depositing, as Ellis will be following a player in the upgrade phase

[gritty matrix]

sounds unnecessary

[calm yoke]

Sometimes?

[steady lava]

is the goo cannon in rogue core?

[tall plume]

not currently

[steady lava]

but will it ?

[tall plume]

no idea

the devs want to add the DRG weapons in the game but there's no confirmation that they will all make it

[silver lagoon]

no goo cannon... no goo sack...

[mossy ruin]

you can spawn goo puddles in other ways

[silver lagoon]

Im listening

[steady lava]

its not the same

[grim plinth]

will there be a wave 2 of rouge core and do we know when?

[steady lava]

yes and we dont know

[grim plinth]

okay thx! :D

[crystal echo]

we really should have a pinned message for this question btw 🙂 haha

[native monolith]

Pins? Since when do people here read those

It would have to be a… channel newsboard? That’s just at the top of the screen when you enter the channel

[main grail]

can't find it anywhere and it might not be the correct place to ask but-
is there any plans to have the Rivals?
Ofc not 1:1 bots but i'd be surprised if they dont notice that DRG has lost their grasp on Hoxxes and try something again

[tall plume]

no plans

[crystal echo]

Its a weekend day but only 29 players right now and still nobody streaming 😦

https://steamdb.info/app/2860770/charts/

[fast sable]

Guys, there is bad news: the game crashed just now!
F3 / Slicer / Level 3
I was shooting at the enemies normally when the game suddenly crashed😭 .

[tall plume]

yeah, that tends to happen

[haughty flicker]

yo

found an infinite perk glitch

[median sleet]

join the private channels via the discord button when you boot up the game, report it there

[haughty flicker]

thanks i had 0 clue it existed

[frail cedar]

With the whole force field thing (I forget the name), does that mean reclaimers can't join a mission once it's started?

[tall plume]

correct

there's not late joining

[frail cedar]

Makes sense with the whole rogue lie part

[inner granite]

rogue truth

[pulsar owl]

Did yall just make up canon for why no late joining, or was that always the lore

[olive narwhal]

Its wierd to handle with how progression works

[pulsar owl]

Mechanically 100% i know, but its satisfying to have a lore reason

[olive narwhal]

Yeah the greyout barrier thing blocks outside communication 👍

[magic isle]

Played some Survivor prior, and I get a feeling it’ll be semi-similar in rogue core

[elder spire]

How do I give my +1 to someone on steam?

[median sleet]

Go to the game in your steam library, there should be a big button there

[elder spire]

I don't see it at all

[median sleet]

You only get an invite if you actually got into the playtest through the steam playtest thing. A key from the newsletter/ a dev doesn't count.

[elder spire]

Ooooh.

That explains it

damn

[median sleet]

Yeah, I had to ask Steam support about it

[pulsar owl]

what does a key from the newsletter even mean again?

[median sleet]

You could also apply through the newsletter for a key

[pulsar owl]

Ah, I see

[median sleet]

seperate from Steam playtest

[ocean jewel]

Waiting for next wave of invites is excruciating

[toxic wagon]

same

[wintry roost]

when ?

[neon helm]

We dont know yet

Are there any new clues on where karl is in rc?

Or what the error cubes are for?

[native monolith]

No

I doubt Karl will make an appearance

[neon helm]

Nah we will find him eventually

Trust

[native monolith]

Might get a few reference voicelines though

[native monolith]

I’d like to imagine Karl is a legend passed down between dwarves at this point

[inner granite]

error cubes are relics of ancients who build machine that caused grayout

similar civ to one in barotrauma

[tall plume]

no

[neon helm]

Barotrauma and drg are in the same universe

[inner granite]

one is in sol system, one in hoxees system

quite far away

[north steeple]

probably not a top priority for the dev cycle

[neat acorn]

Karl is the Cores we Rogued along the way

[sturdy blade]

There's a fan threory that Karl is just a story management tells to the dwarves to motivate them

[tall plume]

except management and mission control never even once reference Karl

[sturdy blade]

Management -> Rock and Stone -> Karl

• we don't rly have any proof of where the dwarfs even got the idea of Karl

[inner granite]

Dwarfs in DRG sound as they knew Karl in person

[sturdy blade]

Most people seem to think of him as a sort of legend among dwarves

LIke a figure, how Chuck Norris used to be

Telling exaggerated tales

[inner granite]

My canon is that Karl was one of the first dwarfs working for DRG, he teached our dwarfs how to do our shit and then died to protect us from the Glyphid Queen (and kill her)

[sturdy blade]

Some people think Karl might have been a scout

Because of the giant statue in the memorial hall being of a dwarf with scout's beard

[inner granite]

He for sure was
In early days no one knew hoxxes so scouts were used to well, scout the terrain

[north steeple]

Signature look of scout superiority

[neon helm]

🔥 🔥 🔥 THINGS ABOUT TO GO BOOM🔥 🔥 🔥

[frail cedar]

its a shame then that there arent any in rogue core

[neon helm]

They got eaten by cave leeches

[frail cedar]

lol

cave leech clustered into oblivion

[inner granite]

Once i had cave leech cluster without a single cave leech

And other time a normal mission filled with cave leeches up to top

I have no idea how this modifier works

[north steeple]

they got shy

[north steeple]

falconer is close enough

[inner granite]

Fair, friend once "saved" me from one using fat boy

I would be scared tok

[north steeple]

I would expect nothing less when playing with friends

[pine skiff]

Spotter's current look under the armour is basically scout

However, falconer gets the heightened senses alert

[frail cedar]

as any true friend would

[inner granite]

I mean, leech was dead

Fact that i was too is a detial

[frail cedar]

casualties shamsualties

[zenith pike]

How is rouge core doing

I cba checking my self

[pulsar owl]

it is doing :)

[zenith pike]

That's amazing

Great to hear

[gaunt bronze]

Have engy’s auto sentries made it into the game?

[north steeple]

As much as I want to say im going to main falconer, truth is im likely going to end up as a slicer main.

But I really dont know how any of them truely work yet lmao

[median sleet]

haven't seen them yet

there are turrets in the caves you can start though

Like the PE turrets

[errant kiln]

LEMME IN DA ROGUE CORE

[frigid path]

Or maybe… there’s a cave leech just out there with your name on it

[gloomy sinew]

When the Core is Rogue:

[north steeple]

Well how did my name get all the way up there?!?

[frigid path]

I fed one some crayons

[neon helm]

When the rogue is in the core:

[dire marlin]

guys

zkuov uzis detonate microexplosion on reload is based on how much shot have i done to the target?

[median sleet]

Yes, but you're looking for #drg-chat

[dire marlin]

oh shit

sry

[elder spire]

Such a shame we don't get a +1 invite if we got the code from newsletter

Its hard to try coop with the current lack of many players

[simple cloak]

Hum first time hearing about getting access from a newsletter

[runic turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-defeated-give-up-gif-5507795813322566763

need music

[rare dune]

You got a code from newsletter?

Any and all methods of key access intrigue me

[forest haven]

i cannot wait until i can play this o.o

[rare dune]

I'm not above leveraging my birthday in 2 days to get an alpha key

[compact shard]

The +1 invite is only for friends of 30+ days, so it's unlikely you'll be able to leverage that effectively

And it seems like the steam beta feature is unreliable anyway

[echo oxide]

hopefully we'll get access in the next key wave

[rare dune]

Nah nah I mean the devs give me one out of the kindness of their hearts 🥰

Ghost Ship one of the only dev teams I know that would unironically do that

[solid patrol]

Its very fun I hope you get in soon!

[neon helm]

GSG give me a key and my last braincell is yours

[finite tundra]

That’s not how it works tho

From what I’ve seen
It’s an automated system

By steam

Which then connects to an automatic discord bot

The moderators nor devs give the role

[finite tundra]

Goes for you too

Also all our brain cells burnt up long ago

[rare dune]

Don’t worry Blackburn I think you still got one

[finite tundra]

Got what?

[hidden hornet]

Hopefully this system is less buggy than the discord system for drg

[finite tundra]

Yeah

[broken flame]

Oh no

We're getting another discord integration?

[neon helm]

When is rogue core 2 releasing?

[frail cedar]

Soon (TM)

[neon helm]

No way

So soon?!

[fierce kestrel]

so you need to link your discord in game? thats kinda lame

[finite tundra]

What no

[fierce kestrel]

why are you talking about linking steam to a discord bot that messages you then

[finite tundra]

Discord has always had account connections a setting specifically for this

Also the bot doesn’t message you

It gives you a role

In the server which grants access to channels for reporting bugs

[finite tundra]

You are putting words in my mouth

I said something simple and you somehow turned it into a strange backwards method

[old swift]

pretty sure it very specifically says it does not message you when you link up

[old swift]

this has nothing to do with alpha access tho

you have to prompt getting access to the alpha test channels after you launch rogue core

[finite tundra]

Ah I see what’s the purpose of the role giving bot then?

Since the role doesn’t give you channel access

Is it just vanity?

[lyric slate]

how come sometimes i just cant upgrade a gun with the workbench toolkit thing

[tall plume]

if nothing at all appears, it's a bug

[lyric slate]

thats annoying

[tall plume]

otherwise, it's because you already have the max number of modifications on it

[lyric slate]

def not that we on floor 1 with gray pistols

[tall plume]

welcome to alpha testing

[lyric slate]

yawp

[tall plume]

had it happen in two runs back to back

until I restarted the game entirely

[inner granite]

Impossible, we paid 0$ for this buggy crap?!
I want my money back

[tall plume]

done

[finite tundra]

Hello there ser pounce

I kept my end of the bargain I have not shown my face after the embed fail incident

[inner granite]

Cheese pounce

[formal sundial]

excited for rogue core. it looks like its gonna be so cool. i also find it kinda funny, people in the community tab on steam are saying they dont like certain things when the game is early access still. let them cook, the food is raw right now.

[astral sluice]

the whole point of alpha is to get feedback and opinions

[formal sundial]

well, some of them are saying as if its the end product. thats what im saying

[main hinge]

Isn’t even in early access and people still getting mad

[mighty lake]

does anyone else sometimes have a bug where rogue core completely freezes on startup?

I can't tell if it's a problem with my computer or not

[south kiln]

I'm just saying

Rogue Core good

[daring hill]

it does annoy me that so many people think rogue core MUST justify itself to them first and formost. it MUST be different, it MUST justify being a new game despite reasons upon reasons they intentionally ignore

some people are gonna start asking for pointless changes just to be different from DRG

sooner or later

[median sleet]

Well my birthday is today, and all I want is the key the devs would've given you!

[crystal echo]

Happy bday mate

[south kiln]

pick an number 5-10

[median sleet]

7

[astral sluice]

you are waiting 7x as long for your key, congrats!

[median sleet]

Thank Karl I am already in

[crystal echo]

Hopefully the devs will bless us with some good news this week mates 🙂

[astral sluice]

there is some good news already...

DRG and its DLC's are on sale! Go buy!

[crystal echo]

haha already got them all mate but thx

[astral sluice]

🫡

buy them for your friends

[crystal echo]

13 players and again nobody streaming... wheres my daily RC fix? 🙂 haha

[median sleet]

I think you've seen all there is to see atp

[astral sluice]

have you watched lazymaybe's 2 hour video?

[crystal echo]

Yeah mate haha but thx, I think I just wanna try myself by now haha, but you guys know that feeling!

[astral sluice]

for sure

I have a lot of my own suggestions and ideas ready which feels wrong not having tried for myself yet

[crystal echo]

I got the exact same, I totally understand why they did a small batch at first but its hard to find a single lobby people are saying so it might be a bit too small right now haha

[inner granite]

Utility tool idea: reactor
Dwarfs in range gets damage, resistance and speed buff

Ammo system works same as shield

[tall plume]

we already got somthing alike

[inner granite]

):

[astral sluice]

how do we feel about armor and ammo resupplies being randomly scattered in the stage?

(I don't think I like it)

I'd rather see more perks around armor and ammo management or refills being given in the elevator

[old swift]

armor idk how i feel about, ammo resups feel good

in the current game state anyway

imo the timer doesn't currently force you to move enough, but ammo scarcity definitely does*

*unless you're guardian

[astral sluice]

hence ammo refill in the elevator

[old swift]

how would that work for the entire rest of the stage then?

[astral sluice]

ammo management perks

[median sleet]

I have the exact opposite feeling

[old swift]

idk i've stayed past the red out of greed quite often and it just feels underwhelming at a point

[median sleet]

Feel like I either barely make it to the elevator or I have to leave some events/expenite behind. But I never feel like I run out of ammo too fast

Oh I never tried staying past red

Are the waves not infinite after red?

[old swift]

sort of? but the bulk of the difficulty seems to come immediately

it definitely doesn't feel like you're in a swarm the whole time

or whatever it's called here

[median sleet]

Huh, weird I didn't know that

[old swift]

if you can get past the bulk of the first wave you can kinda keep going (though admittedly harder)

mostly for the geode excavation though, really awkward to fight in and around

[tall plume]

or I have to leave some events/expenite behind
yes, that's the point

you can't get everything

[median sleet]

I will still try and die!

[neat acorn]

Can you really say that youve beaten a stage if you didnt full loot it?

[wheat river]

We have logs on a big tv screen here and whenever someone gets to the elevator without looting exactly everything a bell rings and we point and laugh

[neon helm]

You dont deserve the reclaimer title if you dont loot everything

[frigid path]

Reclaim everything*

[neon helm]

Reclaim every rock and stone or die trying

[frigid path]

Remember when John Reclaimer said “It’s reclaiming time!” and reclaimed everything?

[visual latch]

"Every Rogue has its Core"

• John Management

[lofty heart]

When is the next play test

[olive narwhal]

Unknown

[tall plume]

everytime someone ask, it's pushed back one week

[lofty heart]

Damn

[frigid path]

When is the previous playtest?

[ashen condor]

Who is the next playtest?

[tall plume]

how is the next playtest ?

[vocal jewel]

why is the next playtest?

[raven shoal]

does the elevator to go to the next stage have a timer to get onto it?

[vocal jewel]

no

but bugs spawn

[crystal echo]

Playtest is still ongoing 😉

[inner granite]

Playtest isn't real, it can't hurt you

[wheat river]

Tell that to the part of my brain in charge of anxiety levels

[surreal venture]

so, will there be any rewards for participating in the closed alpha? something to flex on your friends with.

[tall plume]

the reward is the playtest itself

[crystal echo]

@wheat river any news on the next invite wave if I may ask? 🙂 Lots of players/streamers are telling theres almost no lobbies/players. We would love to help and give feedback!

[surreal venture]

I guess thats one way to pay people for doing honest work

may aswell pay someone with exposure

[vocal jewel]

being in the closed alpha is quite the flex i would say

[surreal venture]

now I need proof that I did

a cool hat would be nice for example

[tall plume]

take a screenshot

and post it online

[surreal venture]

not gonna send a screenshot to everyone I meet ingame

[crystal echo]

Like in darktide? That helmet is just lame mate haha

[bronze fulcrum]

is there are anyways to buy DRG rogue core yet?

[crystal echo]

nope not yet mate, still in closed alpha state

[surreal venture]

I need those lifelong bragging rights in the form of a cosmetic

[hollow bear]

One free discord role

[lilac heart]

Darktide did get a beta helmet, sure, but all that alpha testers got was a portrait frame.

[crystal echo]

haha yeah indeed

[surreal venture]

I believe that closed beta/alpha participation rewards should be normalized in the industry

[lilac heart]

DRG doesn’t really have an equivalent of portrait frames, sadly enough

[tall plume]

I'm assuming RC will get the same as DRG: people put in the credits/on a terminal akin to the one in the memorial hall

something like that

[hollow bear]

I want a bird statue with my name on it

[surreal venture]

ehh, thats not it

no one reads those

[old swift]

the people on the list could always read it

[surreal venture]

my point still stands

[hollow bear]

Fomo in my rogue core?

[vocal jewel]

the reward is that your feedback results in the game being better so you get to play a better game once it's finished

[surreal venture]

the FOMO Is already in your rogue core. only like 0.01% people got in

[surreal venture]

I call this bs

[wheat river]

We don't know yet, but I expect more invites to go out when we get new cool stuff out there, I think our marketing boys will communicate more solid info when we know 🙂

[hollow bear]

That's a bit different than fomo cosmetics though

[wheat river]

We cookin' atm

[tall plume]

[surreal venture]

would you be fine with someone paying you with exposure, after doing a shit ton of work for them?

[crystal echo]

@wheat river thx so much, good luck on that! Love what you guys already made thus far!

[lilac heart]

Imagine missing out on:

• incomplete features
• bugs, crashes, the usual good things that don’t happen frequently in DRG

/Lighthearted

[tall plume]

wait until you hear how moderators aren't paid either.

[vocal jewel]

were they upfront about if i would receive payment and what type of payment i would receive

[surreal venture]

huh...

[hollow bear]

Cant believe gsg is forcing me to play rogue core and not paying

[vocal jewel]

i can't believe i got free access to a product and i'm not even being payed for it

[surreal venture]

Why are you people talking about monetary gain

[old swift]

gsg forced me to complete a pacifist run

[surreal venture]

I just want a solid cosmetic for participation 😭

[median sleet]

You don't have to playtest you know

[tall plume]

you're the one who talked about work

[hollow bear]

You get the steam "recently played" cosmetic

[median sleet]

'I volunteered to playtest and now I am not getting rewarded?'

[stray salmon]

I am literally in the union and have the coin I think I'm going to start a strike that I am not in alpha testing

[surreal venture]

my point still stands

[raven wharf]

I know right? I can't believe GSG tricked me into voluntarily playing this unfinished game and providing feedback because I want to with no expectation of compensation.

[surreal venture]

theres a few games that did it, like for example THE FINALS, where you had to play a bit in order to recieve CB stuff, and even though those were just reskins of already existing cosmetics its fine. im rocking the drip to this day

[vocal jewel]

this might be a hot take but people who want to give feedback without ulterior motives provide higher quality feedback

[surreal venture]

bruh, yall just Corporate shills

[tall plume]

do you think insulting people is going to get you anywhere ?

[hollow bear]

https://tenor.com/view/humor-funny-gif-24828647

[surreal venture]

Im just speaking my mind

you defend GSG as if you were their lawyers

[raven wharf]

Lol. All us testers do this for fun. I have a full time job that compensates me more than enough. This is a nice little hobby.

[hollow bear]

Not wanting participation trophy cosmetics is defending Ghostship?

[vocal jewel]

i enjoy playing games that are unfinished because you get to discover funny weird things that don't happen in finished games

[surreal venture]

what the fck are you even talking about

Its not about the money

[vocal jewel]

i also enjoy discussing the games i play and talking about which parts of the game i enjoy and which parts i don't

[surreal venture]

its about a simple appreciaton token

[vocal jewel]

why would i need an appreciation token

[surreal venture]

idc what you need

[hollow bear]

I don't get the hostility

[crystal echo]

your one of the 200 people that got picked mate, your really lucky to be in the closed alpha itself, be gratefull haha 😉

[surreal venture]

im not even picked

[astral sluice]

calm down 😭

[raven wharf]

it's more than 200

[surreal venture]

whoops caps

[median sleet]

I don't want people to have FOMO. It sucks for people who don't get selected for the playtest that they'll miss out on a cosmetic

[astral sluice]

point still stands

[surreal venture]

the fomo is already there

[raven wharf]

to play an unfinished game? Seriously?

[hollow bear]

That fomo ends when the game releases

[median sleet]

In what way? The game is gonna release

[vocal jewel]

what if the artists spend their time making good cosmetics for everyone instead of only for specific people

[hollow bear]

If we're really going there

[tall plume]

Dunno but being able to weight on the design decision of a game early on is a pretty good reward in itself for me.
I get to actually speak my mind and make a change on a game I intend to be invested in, in a time where big studios don't give a fuck about players.

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-woah-hold-up-wait-gif-5693923

[raven wharf]

I know there's several suggestions we've all had that ended up in DRG. Lot of room for feedback for RC.

[surreal venture]

if "speaking your mind" is worth your precious time spent on playtesting the game for the devs then go ahead. its not like im even asking for a lot. Other games mostly do a reskin of something as a token of gratitude. I mean its the least they can do since actually paying playtesters would be weird.

[vocal jewel]

i don't think the bar should be "giving playtesters a reskin of an item"

i think the bar should be "listening to their feedback"

[tall plume]

My "precious time spent playtesting" is something I do as a hobby. I'm not going around judging people for what they do in their free time to have fun (unless it's actually hurting people) because that's a very weird thing to do.

[hollow bear]

The compensation is the changes through feedback

And getting a good game on release

[surreal venture]

changes in a product thats not even yours

[raven wharf]

Which GSG does and balances it with their design goals of the game. There's a pretty good track record of that throughout DRG.

[surreal venture]

not like you gain anything from the changes, other than you can enjoy said product a little bit more

[hollow bear]

So how is a flexing hat yours, then?

Even if they gave us a hat, we wouldn't "own" that either

This is a goofy discussion

[astral sluice]

I don't agree with Niks so I conclude they're trolling

[raven wharf]

It just boils down to entitlement.

[hollow bear]

Modern predatory game practices got you itching

[surreal venture]

the GSG shill is crazy. All I asked for was whether or not there would be anything like a participation cosmetic as a little reward for the people who helped developed the game. Yall just jumped on me and started defending GSG as if you were their lawyers, and millions of dollars in losses were at stake.

im done

[tall plume]

Nobody jumped on you

[astral sluice]

you're actually tripping lol

the strawman is crazy

[hollow bear]

I just heard the sound of a million groans

[tall plume]

you started ranting about something and nobody agreed with you, that's quite the different thing

[median sleet]

That's not what happened. you kept going on on how you expect to receive something in return for playtesting the game. While everyone else just said they'd rather not have FOMO in RC.

[surreal venture]

hah, Anniversary hats in question.

[inner granite]

Ave papaj

[median sleet]

Yes, and I find it sad that those are timed exclusives. I am not suddenly going to change my opinion because you brought up those hats.

[astral sluice]

"we don't like FOMO cosmetics"
"ah, but they are in DRG, surely you must like those since you're all shills, checkmate"

[inner granite]

Those hats make sense, as they are directly related to one time real life event

[median sleet]

It makes sense, yes. But I can still find it sad that I'll never be able to get some of them.

[young vessel]

"and playtesting rogue core is also a one time real life event" etc. etc.

i guess you could say this argument is............................ rogue.... to the core...?

[inner granite]

It's not
Files will be there until end of time

You could backup them

[astral sluice]

that's not playtesting

[inner granite]

But you can not backup something that is related to time and time only

[young vessel]

that is playing an earlier version, by the time the newer files are released they dont need people playtesting that

im slicering out!!!

[raven wharf]

I'm missing 1

[median sleet]

I think I am missing 1-3

[surreal monolith]

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, DEVs, add the "Always Run" option to the game while it is still in development instead of relying on periodically broken mods to implement this basic 3D shooter option into the game, as it's done in DRG.

[median sleet]

Also I heard they gave out the old hats when 1.0 launched, anyone know if that's true? Not really related to the convo, just curious.

[raven wharf]

I'm missing number 6. Not sure why. My computer may have been down, I may have been out of town, not sure. All I know is I don't have it.

[lavish tendon]

let me innnnnnnnnnn

[raven wharf]

they did

[median sleet]

Damn, that sucks because I owned the game before 1.0. I just didn't get into it at the time

[frigid path]

Should do it again if we ever reach 2.0

[raven wharf]

Is that when the DRG singularity happens and a complete DRG & RC combine into a single complete edition?

[median sleet]

double checked and I own 3-7. Also I hate how they aren't organized by year

5,4,7,6,3

[hollow bear]

We better get a special hat for that

[manic pawn]

hello guys, what is the average time for an applocation for beta test?

[raven wharf]

it goes out in waves at random each playtest

when you request access on steam is irrelevant as long as it's before they tell steam to select people

[manic pawn]

ok, is there any other way?

without steam

[lavish tendon]

no

[manic pawn]

ok

[lavish tendon]

this just like gacha

[manic pawn]

i hate gacha

[bitter fiber]

Do you have hands-on experience with RC on SD? Or just an estimation?

Since I wasn't selected (and Steam Deck is my strongest gaming PC) I checked if I could find any reports on this combination. But couldn't, so far.

[calm yoke]

Nah, that's when the collab with Helldivers 2 will happen.

[raven wharf]

I launched it to see if it would launch and it did. I haven't played it on my deck, just my desktop. Performance right now is worse than DRG because they haven't really done any optimization passes and presently none of the upscaling technologies are hooked up.

Expect it to eventually be playable from a performance perspective.

[bitter fiber]

Ultimately I just want Rogue Core (and Survivor) on my PS5.

[lusty adder]

Is their a date for a console beta yet or negative

[native monolith]

There won’t be one

Same for early access I think

[lusty adder]

Oof

[olive narwhal]

I would not expect a console release until 1.0

[tall plume]

likely nothing for console until 1.0

[crisp yarrow]

I want access to the playtest so badly ;-;

[twilit oasis]

wuh theres play testing now?

[tall plume]

check the pinned messages

[twilit oasis]

ah ive been too busy in the lootbug daycare

[crisp yarrow]

rock and stone!

[desert sinew]

Hey ppl o/, is it still a good time to keep crying over not being able to play the alpha? XD

[astral dome]

Yes

[robust yoke]

just curious do the reclaimers already have their individual icons/color schemes

[hollow bear]

Color, yes. Icons, no.

[robust yoke]

alright

what are the colors for each one may i ask

[hollow bear]

Orange, pink, neon blue, neon green

[robust yoke]

ooooh thanks

[hollow bear]

Well, greenish yellow

Subject to change, I assume

[robust yoke]

hopefully hahah

[rare dune]

Happy Birthday tho! 🎉

[median sleet]

Thank you!

[crisp yarrow]

how does one become communety tester...

[inner granite]

Sell your soul to GSG

And add extra pizza, as a tax

[raven wharf]

Hand picked from the community. I think we got some new ones last year?

[pulsar owl]

It's not like you've got to be a play tester to make a difference

[frigid path]

What kind of tests do you do on the community?

[pulsar owl]

Sure you won't be able to point out the micro issues, but there are still larger game decisions that anyone can suggest about

[raven wharf]

Trick convince people to install linux

[inner granite]

For example, last social experiment

What would happen if some users would spread propaganda about some rogue core or something

[hollow bear]

So much pizza 😔

[inner granite]

Just show them anything in coding

They will beg you to help them install linux

Updating python in win was pain in the ass

[raven wharf]

Eh it's no harder than windows or macos.

Especially if you're trying to install win11 with a local only account

[inner granite]

Win11 sucks

[crisp yarrow]

now I want some pizza

[inner granite]

I would use 10 if only it wasn't preinstalled

And i don't feel like doing it rn

[north steeple]

you can do a reinstall with a windows 10 install on a drive

[crisp yarrow]

10 is simply superior

[north steeple]

no, 11 is just worse

theres not really a superior