rogue-core-chat

[uncut folio]

Definitely a work in progress though

[toxic herald]

ASFAGGACSHGA JONTO???

[uncut folio]

Yes hi

[toxic herald]

Omg hi

[uncut folio]

A friend of mine got access, I’m just waiting for them to come back online and give me their +1

[inner granite]

That was very deep

[wraith sable]

how can i get one ?

[uncut folio]

Anyway yeah the stutter seems a little distracting, but I like where it’s going

[wraith sable]

steam only ?

[toxic herald]

Wait i didnt know you knew creem jonto

[uncut folio]

He’s been in one of my videos lol

[midnight totem]

gotta have a friend that got in, and you have to have been friends for 30+ days

[toxic herald]

Ive been in a couple of his videos lol

[uncut folio]

Anyway I don’t want this conversation to just be about me just saying

[inner granite]

My friend gave me heart attack by pinging the hell out of me, only to say that he did not got in

Mf

[midnight totem]

insane bro

[quartz kernel]

lol

[toxic herald]

I didnt get in either

[uncut folio]

I’m glad we’re also now seeing just straight uncut gameplay, from devs and YouTubers

[icy nebula]

me neither, very sad

[uncut folio]

Because now people actually get to see it in action

[hasty rain]

At 43:35 in watching the youtube right now and, I am refraining from forming any opinions on the game itself until I can actually play it, but
I do not like the idea of moving to nonregenerating armor instead of regenerating shield. Thematically it's silly, why are the far more advanced reclaimers relying on an inferior and less advanced defense? I also just don't think it'd work unless spawn and attack logic ensures enemies can never spawn on top of you or hit you through terrain, as is so common in DRG. I do thoroughly believe that a game must be at least as perfect as it demands you be, and DRG's shield regenerating and the relative ease of healing lets it be not perfect.
Seeing a LOT of moments where people are standing around REPO waiting for others to show up and they just won't, and then also seeing people start an objective with nobody else around is very, very, uh. Worst of both worlds, tbh. Especially when paired with how the game looks like the pace is going to be "Point Extract, every time".
I do deeply worry the "GO FAST" is going to cause it to get stale fast. Risk of Rain, for example, gets stale fast for me because the pace is always "GO FAST". DRG, however, having many different mission types each with their own pace helps keep it fresh for an extremely long time.

[fluid slate]

should have replaced blood with caffeine to have enough energy to make content to become well enough known to get into things early

[quartz kernel]

i think that they should let play the alpha because otherwise i will be mildly disapointed.

[fallow grove]

Same

[uncut folio]

Risk of Rain doesn’t get stale fast for me because of the timer, I think this may be in part that it’s not your style (and also why it’s a different game)

[livid remnant]

the gameplay loop feels like it could use some tuning

the timer is so fast

and when it hits the end, you are cooked

[uncut folio]

But I see your other points to an extent

[fallow grove]

I cant test the South America servers for RC just saying

[cobalt eagle]

We’re all friends of mines.

[void rapids]

R&S to everyone with an invite. I'm choosing to believe it's my linux box keeping me out for the time being and that's ok. We'll be with you soon.

[uncut folio]

Players being dumb is also likely a symptom of everyone playing for the first time, so everyone’s having to figure it out

[hasty rain]

It's not specifically the timer (though it is part of it, I don't like the RoR timer for other reasons)
It's that the pace is always GO FAST.
I enjoy Point Extraction. Because it's a mission type where you need to GO FAST. Not every mission is GO FAST. Therefore it works without getting stale fast.

[uncut folio]

Point taken

I think the point of the timer though is that it wants to make it risky to full clear a cave

[livid remnant]

Even Point Extract at the later times though is more fair imo
Rogue Core currently just straight up spams so many enemies at the timer end that you can't do anything

even if you are good

[hasty rain]

So Point Extraction :V

[uncut folio]

That’s kinda the point I’m pretty sure, you want to get out before then

That said it could need some tuning

[livid remnant]

ye, but its just too short

especially if you get certain events

[mossy ruin]

easily tuned

[quartz kernel]

i mean this is exactly what the closed alpha is for

[mossy ruin]

so we just need to yell hard enough at the devs

[quartz kernel]

feedback

[livid remnant]

you also will likely waste time waiting for teammates to get into the upgrade zone

[hasty rain]

I am very much the kind of person who derives more enjoyment from full clearing stuff than from rushing through it, but again, Point Extraction is a mission type where you can't really do that and I enjoy it, so

[mossy ruin]

I like that ellis is able to store multiple upgrades in a row
so allies not getting into the zone immediately after getting an upgrade is not that big of a deal

[uncut folio]

Like on one hand it could be:

1. Everyone’s new and thus haven’t got good at keeping up with the timer yet, and will get better overtime
2. The devs being the devs are better at their own game than they realise and overtuned it

[hasty rain]

"Devs overtuned it" is REALLY common in games I've seen

[uncut folio]

Yeah

[hasty rain]

One of the issues with playtesting is that, invariably, your playtesters get increasingly good at the game.

[tropic shore]

is it me or the game constantly crashes? asking cuz i wanna know is it only me or its normal

[quartz kernel]

yeah, and its really easy to overlook it when designing a game.

part of the reason why its so common

[mossy ruin]

I don't have access, but the devs crashed like 3 times on the stream

so yeah, the game will crash

[feral palm]

I mean I inherently agree with the timer on stages, but at its current state it does feel way too fast, even from just watching the game

[hasty rain]

I mentioned this in my current views based on the youtube video stream thingy
Like. You have to wait for everyone to be in the small bubble to upgrade, but anyone can start objectives at any time?
This feels problematic. Worst of both worlds.

[fallow grove]

Its normal

[uncut folio]

The reason that happens is because you get really good at your own game, so you end up not being the best judge of it’s difficulty

[south whale]

Yeah that's why I think if they are doing closed beta key waves that would probably be good

[livid remnant]

yeah, I can't help but feel a grab and go system for upgrades would be better

like if you get in zone, you can take and people can come later

[feral palm]

Oh especially with randoms it might be hell

[south whale]

Every couple of months of significant development milestone have another group of playtesters without experience to test

[tropic shore]

ok ty. cuz i crashed six time in one level XD

[feral palm]

That's just ue5 being ue5

[quartz kernel]

they upgraded to ue5?

thats cool

[livid remnant]

yup

[feral palm]

Myesh

[livid remnant]

it chugs with high enemy counts

end of timer with elevator swarms feels like a slideshow at times

[quartz kernel]

I didn't notice the difference on the stream? does it look visibily better in game?

[feral palm]

Mmm I love slideshow drg

Yummers

[livid remnant]

no it looks pretty similar to DRG

[hasty rain]

I can barely tell what they're doing while watching, honestly. The screen's getting flicked around and they're bunnyhopping like crazy, sometimes I can really only really understand all this NEW INFO when they're... standing there waiting for people to come upgrade.
Which is certainly going to be an issue for people who are new to the game, DRG, or even gaming in general. If the starting pace is too fast, they won't be able to take in all this new stuff, which will quickly frustrate a lot of people and leave them less able to learn or outright stop playing out of frustration.

[little frigate]

test looks cool, would love to stream it today if anyone has an invite for a friendly bard. I requested on steam awhile ago, but havent been blessed quite yet

[hasty rain]

This is actually why Hazard 1 is a good thing in DRG, btw.
Because Hazard 1 has a pace of "effectively none", it allows for people who've never touched a game before to get used to the very basics such as movement, looking, mining, shooting, and understand that "swarms are a thing that come occasionally" or "you have to put stuff in the mule"

[quartz kernel]

check if you've got any friends that got in. invites are only alllowed from people who've been friends for over 30 days.

[open olive]

have people got access to rouge core yet? im not up to date

[feral palm]

Some yes

With random selection

[fluid slate]

Yea all the popular youtubers and maybe some lucky randoms got in

[uncut folio]

Very true

[open olive]

alright thanks

i didnt get in 💔

[quartz kernel]

are they only doing invites in waves? or is it like a trickle.

[uncut folio]

They likely haven’t got around to it yet, but easing the player in is a good move

We’re just willing to put up with it for now as testers

[uncut folio]

Waves

[frail heron]

Friends? What are those? mewhen

[livid remnant]

anyone else feel like the base DRG primaries are kinda rare

[feral palm]

Yeahhh true, I think like a difficulty without the timer maxing out and it only being added in higher difficulties would be nice

[livid remnant]

I really only see new primaries or DRG secondaries

i've only seen GK2 and Warthog so far

[feral palm]

You can run 2 primaries/secondaries

So there aren't really primaries and secondaries

[severe nymph]

This is so far gonna be my favorite part

[feral palm]

Real

[tough eagle]

I feel slow! compared to DRG.

[hasty rain]

So at the point in the video I'm at now, they nearly maxed the timer once and did max it once, they're about to start stage 3
That's about 10 minutes per stage.
Point Extraction, for pacing reference, starts to kick in its "functionally endless wave" at around 20 minutes.

[severe nymph]

Being able to run super awesome single target and cc

[feral palm]

Less high mobility options so far

[feral palm]

Oh wow that's fast

Especially with drgs normally slower pace

Hm

[ashen condor]

Can you have two of the same weapon?

[vital owl]

I haven't had any crashes.

[feral palm]

I don't know the answer to that

🐀

It'd be funny

2 warthogs

[rose zinc]

crazy question, but anyone got a spare key?

[ashen condor]

I'm just wondering; if you could then you could have a flamethrower and another flamer thrower... to achieve the ultimate Dual Flamethrowers

[feral palm]

What if you have 2 of the same weapon and you dual weild

[vital owl]

It won't happen. You would only get a friend invite if you have been friends with someone for more than 30days.

[feral palm]

That'd be so sick

[frail heron]

Pacing is so much faster then regular DRG. People are going to have quite the time with it. I like it though, it looks brilliant...I've already done Haz 5 and up to Haz 6 or beyond with mods of course and the pacing there is insanely fast too. You want to get in and out as fast as possible

[ashen condor]

Anyone have a spare alpha invite and also a time machine?

[green belfry]

will Rogue Core release Early Access in Q4 for consoles as well?

[vagrant scaffold]

I have a spare key.
-# On a different timeline than our own.

[mossy ruin]

99.9% no

[frail heron]

They said no consoles

[sharp lantern]

My friend invited me and I received another invite to give someone else. Does that mean we get an unlimited chain of invites? Or did I get lucky? How does that work?

[mossy ruin]

maybe you both got selected?

[vagrant scaffold]

You both got selected yeah.

[rose zinc]

I will volunteer as tribute

[vagrant scaffold]

I mean you can't. Even if you friend them right now you have to wait like 30 days.

[fallow grove]

The invite system is broken, some people cant invite anyone while other can invite and the person who got invited can invite someone

[frail heron]

Me when you probably have to be popular to be selected

lol

[fluid slate]

such is life

[vagrant scaffold]

It's random. The popular people who are in either got lucky or got someone to give them an invite.

[fluid slate]

makes me wonder why even bother some days

[olive hound]

or were previously testing the early days of rogue core

[frail heron]

Ah yeah. Of course it is via Steam now that I do think about it

[green belfry]

yeah. just listened to them addressing it during the stream. if so, only for 1.0.

[vagrant scaffold]

IIRC either a mod or a dev here said that the first wave of testers was exclusively developers and server moderators.

This is, weeks before today.

[frail heron]

Steam is trying out this newer system. It used to be devs just gave you keys via some other means

Whether its like a google doc signup, etc

[vagrant scaffold]

I do like the system anyways. If it's truly random then it's good.

[frail heron]

Indeed

[vagrant scaffold]

I like seeing self-entitled people who believe they are owed early access seethe in Steam forums.

[frail heron]

XD

[mossy ruin]

anything but the steam forums

[frail heron]

Well its Alpha right now

EA in Q4 is when we'll all actually get it

[fluid slate]

weird thing to do

[frail heron]

I kinda figured it would come out for everyone in Q4 actually

The develepment speed of it just immediately seemed like it

[blissful geyser]

There's plenty of other games to play until Q4

[mossy ruin]

like silksong

[blissful geyser]

Oh my god you're probably right

[fallow grove]

Like base DRG

[frail heron]

There is. 2025 I can tell is gonna have a lot of stuff

[blissful geyser]

Silksong before Rogue Core open early access? Lol

That's kind of amusing to think about

[frail heron]

You know what won't come out before then?

[mossy ruin]

gta 6

[frail heron]

Literally what I was gonna say

🤣

[mossy ruin]

I am the knower

[fallow grove]

We got gta 6 trailer 2 before RC

[vagrant scaffold]

GTA VI
Triple A slop. 🥱

[mossy ruin]

real

[frail heron]

very real

[fluid slate]

Who cares about gta 6. We got civ 7

7!

[frail heron]

I feel old ^

[verbal oyster]

gta6 might unironically be AAAA with how much money they be spending on it

[mossy ruin]

no amount of money can give a game soul

[frail heron]

We've already had our 1st quad A game too, which is insane and sad to think

[verbal oyster]

true!

[hasty rain]

Okay so thinking on it while watching another instance of "one person is all the way across the cave about to start an objective, thus nobody can upgrade"
Having it start an on-screen countdown before going to the upgrade-pause-screen might be a better solution to avoid that problem

[vagrant scaffold]

Their latest trailer flopped hard though.

[fluid slate]

Ooph

[mossy ruin]

I don't think it's that big of a problem, since ellis can accumulate upgrades

[frail heron]

That moment when more money = less complete game. l o g i c

[vagrant scaffold]

The sweet spot is so-called "AA games" like, well, DRG.

I say "so-called" but it might be an actual classification. Unsure.

[verbal oyster]

the sweet spot is games that are good

[mossy ruin]

the less business suits the better

[frail heron]

more money gotta go towards that money laundering

[vagrant scaffold]

Because it turns out that, like videogames, doing business has a metagame. And those who follow the metagame of business have (successfully) discovered they can make more money by releasing unfinished products. I don't like it either but it is what it is.

[frail heron]

Yup

Which is why gaming does suck quite a lot of the time, because a company or person can make an unfinished product for maximum trolling

[vagrant scaffold]

At least we can agree GSG deserves every penny and more. Otherwise we wouldn't be here.

[frail heron]

Glad that GSG is not that

[frail heron]

Heck no we wouldn't be here....all what? 600,000 of us?

[hasty rain]

GSG has been really good so far

[frail heron]

Yus

I watched the entire stream and just finished it like 15 min ago

BIG epic

[ashen condor]

If people would just stop buying games that were stuffed full of anti-consumer garbage this wouldn't be an issue. But no, they must consume More Product™ even as it gets more and more expensive and less and less good

[frail heron]

Maybe the loadout system it has and everything will make my sister's fiance shut up about wanting a new class

And also the fact the game does technically have 4 new classes

XD

[vagrant scaffold]

When you realize ultra realistic graphics are utterly unimpressive because they will never look like real life, you stop wanting to get anti-consumer games.

Tons of small studios or independent devs out there pump out gems constantly.

Games that rely on great gameplay and/or story instead of selling themselves based on graphics.

[frail heron]

-# But mom, I need to use your credit card to buy more cosmetics

[native monolith]

Only if they’re DRG packs

[frail heron]

R&S to that

[vagrant scaffold]

The way to go re: graphics is having an unique graphical style/mise en scene. You can recognize DRG's low poly instantly.

[frail heron]

Bingo

They've created something that's instantly recognizable and unique

[frail heron]

Me when Giant's Software stares at a tree for over 10 minutes telling you how realistic it is

[hasty rain]

Highly stylistic graphics are generally timeless
IMO, Eternal Sonata still looks like it could've been made today, despite being from 2007

[vagrant scaffold]

I didn't know that game. I've just googled it and it looks like a game from the Atelier series. So I agree with you.

It also looks like, well, Genshin.

[visual latch]

It's literally just me, but I've always been sort of peeved by random crits in shooters, irrespective of weakpoints. I dunno why, something about them never feels good to me

[vagrant scaffold]

Random crits dealt by you, or dealt to you by enemies?

[visual latch]

By me

[hasty rain]

enemy random crits

[vagrant scaffold]

I don't think RC had those on the stream today. Weakpoint/non weakpoint hits sure.

[pulsar owl]

I think they did on the steam?

[vagrant scaffold]

Oh, did they?

[pulsar owl]

the one that puts enemies on fire based onc crits had an increased crit modifier apart of the upgrade

[hasty rain]

i don't think i saw any enemies do random crits thank goodness
RC definitely has random crits, they explain it at one point in the stream and IIRC Spotter's gauntlet revolves around them

There's a lot of upgrades that benefit from and/or give more random crit chance

[ashen condor]

It even has like double and triple crits

[frail heron]

TF2 crits enters the chat

[hasty rain]

I enjoy random crits, but a lot of games have the issue of "build for 100% random crit chance or else you suck" and I don't like when that happens

[vagrant scaffold]

That's why I play driller in DRG:S.

[vocal temple]

I'm so tired of my youtube feed being filled with Rogue Core Alpha videos, I don't wanna see it, I wanna EXPERIENCE it and develop my own opinions.

[neat acorn]

my core is NOT being rogued

[wise tangle]

How big is the filesize for the closed alpha?

[frail heron]

Your Youtube feed is actually filled with stuff that's actually relevant to what you want to see? How insane

[wise tangle]

Is it bigger than standard drg?

[runic pivot]

i have a sneaking suspision that actually for now the number of people on is extremely small and that they were handpicked, it does not seem to be at random

[neat acorn]

they did say that the first wave(s) would be small

[raven wharf]

about the same as DRG. 3.5 GBish

[runic pivot]

i've only identified a dozen of users on it

[vocal temple]

Surprising that major content creators got in the "random" selection, eh?

[ashen condor]

They did handpick some, but the actual first random wave went out

[runic pivot]

one of which had like 90hrs on drg

[neat acorn]

its fun to think you'd get picked, but realistically that's a VERY low chance

we gotta be patient

[frail heron]

I just keep getting tons of completely random garbage for some reason and idk why...also Youtube now liking to recommend all these 15 year old videos to everyone

[raven wharf]

most are random, some got access codes to bypass the random selection

[runic pivot]

no but that makes sense they need it for publicity

[strong heath]

I want play the Game TwT ❤️

[vocal temple]

I know. But I'm a living bad luck charm, I'll have to wait until full release. lol

[iron jolt]

What are y'alls favorite new voice lines

[desert sinew]

Hey ppl 👋 , yeah i didn't get into the alpha eighter 🙃

[iron jolt]

Mine is "I'm point man"

[runic pivot]

it's just a few dozen people right?

[desert sinew]

I´m a sad sad little dwarf

[frail heron]

I...could barely hear them in the official stream honestly because they had the volume so low

[raven wharf]

in total? no, way more than that. It isn't a lot for the first round though.

[vagrant scaffold]

Consider the fact that there are MANY people who got into the game but are not active here and therefore you will not hear of them.

And, for what it's worth: https://steamdb.info/app/2860770/charts/ says there are 209 users playing it right now.

[frail heron]

Yeah

[neat acorn]

yea I figured first wave would be maybe 500 people

1k at most

[frail heron]

Otherwise the testing group would be too small

[runic pivot]

how come there's so few visible users on it then?

[neat acorn]

and the drg fanbase is like one gorillion

[frail heron]

Was thinking the same

[runic pivot]

checks out

[ashen condor]

They have also said the future groups will be larger

[desert sinew]

I'm sad anyway }

[frail heron]

Steamdb my fantastic thing

[desert sinew]

😦

[runic pivot]

dw mate the odds are incredibly low for now which makes sense

[vagrant scaffold]

Game was released sometime earlier than 13:00 CEST, which is at most 8 AM for the Americas.
Most people on the Americas are still at work or busy on a weekday. Unless you're like me and work from home.

[raven wharf]

not a clue, don't really care either. There's also going to be people who got access who don't touch it. I got an invite to deadlock. Never going to play it.

[neat acorn]

same (I literally never asked for the deadlock invite)

[frail heron]

Us: How many people clicked the signup button for Rogue Core?
Steam: Yes

[runic pivot]

wdym by deadlock?

oh it's a game ok

[neat acorn]

moba game that dropped last year

[vagrant scaffold]

Give it at least two more hours and then you'll be seeing people from NA and LatAm checking in to play.

[languid shoal]

With Deadlock you can open up the game and invite your entire friends list so that spread like wildfire

[blissful geyser]

Yeah Deadlock dropped last year, like a couple months ago right? WHAT DO YOU MEAN 8 MONTHS AGO??

[frail heron]

I'd say the 2nd round of Alpha testing might be several thousand people

[blissful geyser]

Oh god how is it May already

[runic pivot]

i have a good ammount of hours on drg and if i recall i clicked on the link maybe ten minutes after it was up so i hope i'll get in

[neat acorn]

metal gear solid aging.gif

[runic pivot]

i'm not surprised to not be in it but i would have thought that the test would be bigger

[frail heron]

If you didn't get it already, you didn't get it. Big sad

[neat acorn]

^

[ashen condor]

I don't think any of that matters. Literally just RNG

[jovial walrus]

Hours dont mean anything when randomly picking steam accounts unfortunately 😭

[vagrant scaffold]

Give it time. Give it at least a day. Then check back on steamdb to see what was the all time peak.

[runic pivot]

i think that a good ammount of the people on it are handpicked for now

[vagrant scaffold]

That'll be a VERY, VERY rough estimate of how many people could have gotten in.

[frail heron]

I've not been waking up till like 10 or 11 in the morning here. But I didn't get any email or Steam notification so yeah

[ashen condor]

Yes, but that's like bigger streamers, people who already helped with testing previously, and probably some one-off weird reasons

[sweet bloom]

May the power of gambling be with you when the second wave arrives! ROCK AND STONE!

[fiery oracle]

Will there ingame mod support?

[frail heron]

Let's go gambling! Aw dang. it Aw dang it. Aw dang it.

[hasty rain]

Got to a point where they're talking about damage numbers and being allowed to change them for accessibility
"Comic sans, no"
Yknow what's funny? Comic sans, as much of a meme as it is due to overuse, is actually super good for accessibility. It's very dyslexia friendly.

[frail heron]

Yes that

I kinda think the same really, because there is more then enough colorblind people out there

Like my dad lol

[tall plume]

no plans

[frail heron]

See I was wondering abount modding too while eating lunch

Maybe an after 1.0 thing

[clear moon]

Is RC gonna be on console? Any word

[frail heron]

Unfortunately not until after 1.0

[clear moon]

So the first update?

[vagrant scaffold]

The current Discord font is also very legible, I like it better than the previous one.

[frail heron]

Well no, when it hits release version. We're getting Early Access in Quarter 4

So who knows how long that'll be

[clear moon]

Oh cool

So like I get to play the game in a fair bit of months to a year?

[raven wharf]

I've pestered the team about accessibility features and upscaling technologies for a few years now. I'll bring up changing the font and colors

[hasty rain]

10q
Like-
I don't have dyslexia, but my cousin and a bunch of other people I know do. And I know people with varying degrees and types of colorblindness.
Being able to change font, number size, colors is very much a good thing whenever possible. Having different symbols (such as the currently existing ! and !!) is also a good solution, though they can cause clutter.

[blissful geyser]

You have to be friends on steam with someone for 30 days before you can send them an invite

There's still a few accessibility features in DRG I've been rooting for too. As someone who's deaf in one ear I've always found myself wondering why Minecraft style directional sound effect captions aren't a standard by now.

[hasty rain]

"Just let me grab stuff on the zipline" PLEASE

[solid glade]

more like 6 months top (if it does go into EA in 4th quarter)

[lilac frost]

If we're talking about accessibility, I'd like "sprint by default, push to walk" to save my pinky finger 🤩

[deep skiff]

Wasnt that a thing in early DRG versions?

[lilac frost]

Maybe but not in live, there's a mod that is okay but not as good as real implementation

[plush flame]

zamn need to wait for few months to make a vid about rogue core

[quick nimbus]

Where can I report bugs for Rogue Core?

lol its in game XD nvm ty ty

[raven wharf]

#report-rc-alpha-bug

[deep skiff]

You get access to the rogue core channels if you got in.

[quick nimbus]

i've no access to that

Im actively playing it

[raven wharf]

click the discord button ingame

when you launch the game

[quick nimbus]

UGH okay thank you again XD

I'll do that when I perish

[signal rivet]

am i the only one that dislikes the armor instead of the shield?

the point of it being a second bar and less than health is bc it is supposed to regen no?

[echo grove]

i think it adds to the difficulty of the game, being a rougelike runs can be cut short

rather than being a full drg mission

[signal rivet]

but at what point should you just make it a single bar instead of 2 then?

[hasty rain]

I dislike it
For reasons I talk about here

[mossy ruin]

you can regain it via perks

it can also fuel other perks

[hasty rain]

Yeah the mule replacement, REPD, at the point in the video i'm at, it's pointed out a lot of people read the D as an O
Font moment

[echo grove]

the rest (in) extra peace department?

[hasty rain]

Heck, I read it as an O at first

[signal rivet]

remote exponite processing device

[signal rivet]

huh, i always saw it as a D personally

[fluid slate]

is there a ballpark estimate on when the game comes out

[hasty rain]

Q4 early access iirc

[mossy ruin]

yeah

[signal rivet]

i just dont ge tthe point of having two separate bars if they both do the exact same thing. Instead of having two pools of health, just merge them and not worry about it

[mossy ruin]

.

[signal rivet]

i havent seen it anywhere yet?

[mossy ruin]

watch the stream then

[hasty rain]

It seems the reason for it is because of perk interactions, but like.

1. That's entirely RNG on if you even see them
2. Shields

[signal rivet]

im abt halfway through currently

[hasty rain]

Also resupply pods (which you find in this game, rather than call in) seem to give you back 50% armor, and no health

[mossy ruin]

yeah

[signal rivet]

if they make it a thing like where you have to have it in a slot like iron will, itll basically be just as annoying as things like dash or iron will that would just be nice as a base ability from the getgo instead of using up an entire slot

[mossy ruin]

however red sugar still exists

[signal rivet]

it doesnt give health?

[mossy ruin]

no

[hasty rain]

Reclaimers are clearly using far inferior technology v-v

[mossy ruin]

or the left behind red sugar juice has spoiled

[hasty rain]

Perk, as in, the perks you get during runs

[mossy ruin]

[signal rivet]

missed that somehow. got more distracted by the fact armor doesnt regen

[signal rivet]

ik, i was saying if they made it the other way tho itd just be frustrating anyway

[hasty rain]

At the point in the stream they talk about how armor only takes ~66% of the damage you take, the remainign third goes to your health
Obviously VERY personal preference, while I like that style of armor system in games like OG Doom or Serious Sam, I feel it requires a very specific style of resource economy to make feel good

[signal rivet]

i feel like a full reup of your armor would be better especially given the armor perks. If you cant even maintain your armor, those perks are actively worse for you, and if you drop to zero armor youll never get it backto full

[olive hound]

You think the game phase is to fast?

[mossy ruin]

there are perks which refill armor on kill

[signal rivet]

i think its too fast at some points and then forced to a halt when you wait for the last person to get in the circle for upgrades. A pause of the game when REPD gets full would feel better bc you arent stopping all progress to stand next to each other even with how interruptive it feels anyway. Just not a good way to make it smooth in reality

[signal rivet]

you also have to roll those. For smth so rng based, idky they didnt just stick with drg's shield

[mossy ruin]

they were like either grey or green rarity

[olive hound]

And there doesn't seem to be (yet) a re-roll function

Maybe with meta-upgrades... who knows

[mossy ruin]

and, you know, you should have an engine for something in the first place, if you decide to build towards that

[stoic laurel]

Is there a way to increase the chances of getting picked for testing?

[signal rivet]

no

[mossy ruin]

yes

[signal rivet]

just gotta wait

[stoic laurel]

?

[mossy ruin]

but it's too late

[mossy ruin]

trusted people got in faster

[stoic laurel]

Oh

[mossy ruin]

mods / community testers

I also saw a translator and an active season 5 playtester get in
likely not a coincidence

[stoic laurel]

Alright, how often do people get picked?

[mossy ruin]

but now, you just have to wait

every playtest wave

but idk when the next one will be

[stoic laurel]

Ok, thanks

[sturdy blade]

Damn, everyone who has access gets a +1

Unfortunately I don't have friends lol

[orchid oracle]

i also heard u can like invite ur friends too??

im not sure how that works

[ashen condor]

One, and they have to be on your friends list for 30 days already

[stoic laurel]

Me? 👉👈

Jkjk

Unless...?

[orchid oracle]

bungie should take notes

[median sleet]

Yeah, some people got send keys in discord dms

[worn fern]

if i invite a friend to the alpha can they also invite another friend themselves?

[median sleet]

They shouldn't

[mossy ruin]

that translator was you btw

[median sleet]

It was because of my feedback in s5 experimental

according to the message I got

(I can not remember what feedback I gave)

[ashen condor]

Was your feedback "I know where your family is"?

[runic pivot]

if there's no beard it's litteraly unplayable

[near leaf]

Did they mention how often waves of play tests would go out

[ashen condor]

They said they don't have it planned yet

[near leaf]

Fair enough I don’t have it planned yet either

[hasty rain]

seeing a four shot full auto PGL in this makes me wish it could be like that in DRG
maybe then it'd be good, grief emoji

[shrewd glen]

Finally, in rogue core I will be able to dump all of PGLs ammo without even reloading.

[hasty rain]

[north coral]

will there be special powder there

[near leaf]

The 100% fire rate flare launcher I saw made me wanna light a corespawn up

Just nail a guy with 4 mini suns

Hitting one of the big swimming monsters would be cool, it could light the cave around it so you don’t lose it

[urban wind]

Rogue core is a load of fun guys! 🙂 The difficulty however is quite high

the exploding things do so much damage

when I do small movements with my mouse there is this weird small camera movement after I stop aiming if that makes sense

[median hound]

Do we know if they passed out all the keys for this test or do they plan to put out more in waves?

[signal rivet]

waves

[mossy ruin]

they do plan to put out more on the next waves

[urban wind]

the lighting is also very nice to look at ingame

[fluid quiver]

is there a chat /place for rouge core changes? its being updated rn and i wanna know what got changed/fixed

[median hound]

Thanks for quick response 🙂 better luck next time I suppose

[signal rivet]

anyone know if grappling hook made it or it it only plat/flare/zip/drills?

[mossy ruin]

the most up to date place would be the playtester chat, but that is only avalible to, well, playtesters and devs

[near leaf]

I didn’t get into the alpha but does anyone know how are they taking feedback. I don’t have any to give bit am curious is it in here or through the game

[mossy ruin]

grapple is in, but it's yellow

[fluid quiver]

who do I ask to get playtester role? Ive got the beta but no chat :(

[signal rivet]

rarity or?

[mossy ruin]

rarity

[signal rivet]

damn...

scout mains worst day...

[mossy ruin]

#rogue-core-chat message

[sturdy blade]

Can you play Rogue Core solo?

[ruby knot]

yep

[mossy ruin]

yes

[sturdy blade]

nice!

[mossy ruin]

sniss did so

so you can watch that to see how it works, if you didn't get in

basically you have bosco (now called differently), and he gets a damage up everytime you take an upgrade

[lethal warren]

Anyone kind enough to share theirs friend invite key with a poor soul that hasn't recieved confirmation

[mossy ruin]

something something 30 days

[median sleet]

you need to be friends 30 days

[mossy ruin]

new pin time?

[lethal warren]

Well i be damned

[ashen condor]

Implying pinning it will stop the asking anyway

[hasty rain]

even putting it as the channel topic might not do it

[raven wharf]

it won't

but then I can keep adding to my tally of check pinned messages

[ashen condor]

True

[near leaf]

Maybe the information was the pins we ignored along the way

[ashen condor]

I saw one guy earlier ask a question that he could see the answer to as the current latest message

People refuse to read

[lethal warren]

Reading hurts my brain, beer on the contrary does not

[hasty rain]

Something something entirely too many people have sub 3rd grade reading levels and thus are not meaningfully capable of obtaining information from reading

[summer dew]

I haven't received a key yet but I'm worried if I'll like it or not

Huge fan of drg, have over 1k hours in drg and think its an amazing and near perfect game, but from watching gameplay, idk I'm kinda worried lol

[median sleet]

it's fine if you don't like it. you can give feedback on what you don't like.

[summer dew]

Yeah

I'm also aware this is in its infancy

So there's a LOT of room for growth

But so far, this feels like a glorified deep dive

[sturdy blade]

Ur in alpha test?

[summer dew]

No I've been watching gameplay

[sturdy blade]

Oh, you don't have a key

[median sleet]

It really isn't TBH, I played it a bunch and it feels pretty different

[sturdy blade]

I can't tell just through gameplay, but I don't think it's a deepdive just because of the upgrades you can get, and I can see this game easily having an endless mode

[summer dew]

I do need to play it tho to come to something definitive

[sturdy blade]

Indeed, playing it will help much more

[summer dew]

And in no way am I gonna compare this to a game that's really mature (DRG)

[sturdy blade]

Maybe one of ur friends can send you a key, if they got in

[summer dew]

Drg is 5 seasons + 33 updates in so, its definitely more polished and more complete.

[stiff ginkgo]

explody bois are a menace. really miss them having a windup

[inland hedge]

A Menace, you say?

[cyan mist]

at least they are usually just 1 shot and go away when the spawners destroyed

before then though yea they are a big nuisance

[oblique crow]

its joever i didnt get access 😭

[exotic cypress]

My friend got access and wants to invite me but the button isn't showing up

how work

[inland hedge]

I wonder why we don’t see the glyphids at all
Judging by the depth meter, we’re still in their territory at least at the start of a mission

[sturdy blade]

Have you been friends on steam for 30 days?

[exotic cypress]

for 3 years

[hasty rain]

corespawn probably chased them off

[inland hedge]

There should be a few grunts roaming around at least

[exotic cypress]

yes

[sturdy blade]

not sure why it wouldn't be working

[inland hedge]

Glyphids and Corespawn don’t attack each other in normal DRG

[tall plume]

it's bugged

simple as

[exotic cypress]

is it in game or on the library? We might not know how to do it

[sturdy blade]

Go to the "Properties" tab on steam

There should be a tab with "betas"

And then you can choose a beta, or input a beta code

[inland hedge]

Lootbugs are also completely absent
As are almost all the enemies we’re used to

[exotic cypress]

Does he have to send me a code? I'm confused (and maybe a bit stupid)

[mossy ruin]

expendite lootbugs exist

[inland hedge]

The complete absence of the glyphids feels wrong

[cyan mist]

Theres occasionally expedite lootbugs that spawn.

[inland hedge]

Not so much as a single grunt to be seen

[granite dome]

hi guys, can anyone share access to rogue core pls?

[pine skiff]

If your friend got his key via email, apparently the "invite a friend through steam" thing doesn't work for those (yet)

[exotic cypress]

Ah, yeah that's where he got it. Hopefully they fix it shortly.

[sturdy blade]

You need to be friends on steam for 30 days, ask your friendslist

[queen gull]

i think the devs said that the freind invite function requires the sender to have the friend added for atleast 30 days , probably to avoid selling access to the alpha

[near leaf]

Does someone who got a key wanna friend me 30 days ago?

[inland hedge]

Would love to actually talk about the game :/

[hasty rain]

Now watching a video of someone playing solo for the... second time? and them being all "Huh, what's that?" and generally just taking in the sights and fawning over the aesthetics and designs
...Which means the timer is still quickly ticking along

[frail heron]

lol yeah

Javarak did that

"Who, ahh, oh piss we're on red"

[inland hedge]

90% of this conversation has been about access codes or friend invites not working
I want to actually discuss the game itself please

[pulsar owl]

we can talk about the synergy upgade

[inland hedge]

I wanna talk about potential lore

[pulsar owl]

I find it a bit annoying how it's the only link between the guns and the gauntlet gameplay wise

[inland hedge]

Why are the glyphids completely absent?
What happened to them?

[raven wharf]

There is no lore, only Zuul

[hollow kestrel]

all the actual rogue core players are probably talking in rogue core restricted chats haha

[summer dew]

Yeah most likely

Are you gonna play it?

[glass moth]

eh, havent clicked on that link yet so im kinda stuck here

[sudden sable]

you're deep into the core of hoxxes rather than a bit below the surface, i think devs have already said thats why there are no glyphids

[queen gull]

theres to busy ruining my deep dives to fight the reclaimers

[inland hedge]

It would be one thing if we didn’t see them very often, but they’re completely absent

[pulsar owl]

glyphids understand that going there is tantamount to suicide, so they don't

[hollow kestrel]

i'll probs play rogue core yeah

[inland hedge]

Even when the depth meter says we should still be in their territory

[glass moth]

theyre technically not completely absent because theres like one glyphid type ive seen but its goofy

[summer dew]

Cool, I'm interested on your thoughts on it

[hollow kestrel]

from what i've seen i'm not super hopeful that it'll have much longevity for me personally at least but i'd definitely try

[raven wharf]

the big green bastard?

he's great

[summer dew]

Yeah I thought the same

[raven wharf]

lots of fun

[hollow kestrel]

it definitely seems too easy at first blush and i feel like fps roguelike is a pretty inherently difficult genre

[glass moth]

felt pretty easy to me too

i was surprised by the note that it would be harder because like, it rly didnt feel like it

[pulsar owl]

It seems very rushed per run

[glass moth]

for pure endurance i would say its more demanding i guess

i like playing slower but i can run around for multiple minutes during the endgame swarms

[hollow kestrel]

at least imo roguelikes have to be very very hard to be good

[inland hedge]

It’d be cool if the deeper we got, the less glyphids we see, until it’s only corespawn

[summer dew]

I'm just not too well versed in that genre

So I'm unsure really what to think

[ruby knot]

I feel like you move too slow or the enemies move too fast

well not really too fast, they're just super slippery and hard to hit

[summer dew]

I'm looking at it from the appeal of drg perspective but I have trouble seeing how I would enjoy this game

[glass moth]

usually if its harder it ends up being better i guess, yeah. for me its not really that though i just dont like roguelikes at all

im trying to find things i like in spite of it

[ruby knot]

especially with the semi auto weapons. shotgun, pistol, etc

it's probably just a skill issue lol

[hasty rain]

I personally don't much care for "make it hard" and find it is pretty much entirely unrelated to how enjoyable a game is

[hollow kestrel]

i think it's pretty critical when it comes to roguelikes

[inland hedge]

In my eyes, it’s just not DRG without the glyphids

[ruby knot]

I'm a fan of the RoR2 approach. "yeah we try to balance the game but railgunner, loader, etc are OP and that's ok"

[simple cloak]

there's fun in challenge

[inland hedge]

They’re such an integral part of DRG as a whole, that it feels wrong without them

[hasty rain]

Very much a personal opinion thing
I wouldn't call Dredmor a hard game. It's easily my favorite roguelike of all time.
This isn't a roguelike either, it's a roguelite. There is a difference! You have metaprogression n stuff.

[ruby knot]

also the "you run into bullshit a lot that just takes you out in one blast" happens too

[hollow kestrel]

even ror2 the most busted characters still demand (or used to) a good bit of proficiency

[ruby knot]

yeah

[hasty rain]

fukken lol
this guy spent a lot of time going "I have no idea what I'm doing here" with the 'weight plate' event
semi-accidentally put a bigass bomb on it and it opened

[hollow kestrel]

in rogue core i've seen people blasting through top difficulty like third run barely knowing the gsme and what items do

[stiff ginkgo]

lootbugs are a thing. albeit rarer

[hollow kestrel]

obviously part of that is overlapping systems with drg but imo item synergies and making builds should be an incredibly important part of roguelikes and if you can totally overcome that with mechanical proficiency then that's a problem

[oblique summit]

Does anyone remember how much dmg the armor reduced? Was it 33 or 66%?

Im trying to scrub to when they mentioned it in livestream....

[summer dew]

What do you guys think about omega, me personally, i think its a large downgrade from MC

[hasty rain]

From the dev stream they said the armor takes ~66%, your health takes the rest

[oblique summit]

Tyty

[oblique summit]

It fits the vibe of rogue core
They might add goofier lines later down the line so

From initial vibes rogue core is much more....intense

With the wave timer and that

[summer dew]

I guess idk i don't think it'll live up to MC

[hasty rain]

Not having rerolls currently means that placing too much focus on build making during the run won't work / feel good. You get bad luck? You have an unfun run. You get good luck? You steamroll.
TBH
This is why I think the difficulty setting should probably be independent of the run selection. Devs spent a bunch of time in the stream talking about being unsure if they should or should not do it like that, currently your selected run is the difficulty.
Some people won't find it "hard enough" unless they can amp the setting up to the absurd, other people will very quickly stop playing because they can't really play past the first mission, if even that much. And without a difficult setting to tone things down or raise it higher... yeah.

[summer dew]

I haven't played the game yet and I wanna mod it out 😭😭

[inland hedge]

MC is an important part of DRG, and not hearing his voice warning me about a swarm just makes things feel even more isolated and eerie

[summer dew]

Idk I just find omega hard and annoying to listen to for prolonged periods of time

[oblique summit]

This, but from what was shown on stream, rarity for modifiers/bonuses on gear seem to be pretty high for the 1st 2 facilities at least

Maybe theyll lean a tiny bit more towards ror2 progression

[oblique summit]

Well.... they are looking to hire a VA for OMEGA..... 👀

[summer dew]

Thank goodness 😭

[oblique summit]

You should apply 👀 👀

[inland hedge]

Just bring back MC smh

[oblique summit]

MC got his hands full with our silly asses on DRG

[inland hedge]

Idk man, it seems like something bad happened to the regular crews

[hasty rain]

IIRC game's happening at the same time as DRG

[oblique summit]

Ah... rogue core runs parallel to drg yeye

[inland hedge]

Then let us play as Engi, Scout, Gunner and Driller

[oblique summit]

However they did mention that theyll only think of how to pave the way forward for drg after ea release of rogue core......

[hasty rain]

From what I've been watching, due to the fact that it's still in alpha, Mission Control occasionally talks and has lines specific for this

[rare dune]

good luck to all those who got alpha access! Play on for me!

[oblique summit]

.....Q4......

[rare dune]

[oblique summit]

! Haste enjoyer, did you beat s10?

[rare dune]

yeah

going for perfectionist run

its pain

[oblique summit]

My save wiped after failing s10....havent been back on since....

[inland hedge]

Who needs the reclaimers when you have DRG’s silliest warriors?

[rare dune]

amen 🫡 I believe tho

[oblique summit]

Our silliest warriors are still earning us them morkite seeds

We need it to pay for reclaimer gear....

[inland hedge]

Look me in the eyes and tell me they couldn’t handle this themselves

[oblique summit]

I bless your runs with many boost items 🫡 godspeed

[oblique summit]

.....erm

[hasty rain]

Considering the DRG crew have shields and these guys don't...

[inland hedge]

The Dwarves have survived the worst the glyphids can throw at them

They can handle corespawn

[oblique summit]

But u can upgrade those shields, and have them stacked

👀

[prisma robin]

how do you know you've been selected? steam notifications? It doesn't seem 100% clear to me...

[oblique summit]

Plus with how a roguelike works....ig these guys are genetically modified to be the perfect blank slate for all kinds of mutations

[topaz wagon]

yo

[oblique summit]

Theyre like...tiny hulks

Their pods are literally doomguy coffins kakaka

[inland hedge]

If we can handle Stingtails, there’s not much we can’t handle

[oblique summit]

Apparently itll show up on your email, or if you check rogue core store page youll see if youve been selected or not

😔 😔 lfg for rogue core

[rare dune]

also after watching sniss's video yall think some of the reclaimers are gonna be female this time around? I hope so

[oblique summit]

Falconeer is

No VA yet for her tho

[prisma robin]

I'm currently looking at a 'you've been selected' screen, but where the keys are supposed to be it's blanc...

[inland hedge]

It’s hard to tell with dwarves

[oblique summit]

Nah they confirmed it on stream

No VA yet tho so its not obv

[inland hedge]

I know

[oblique summit]

Ah oke

[rare dune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/666633668457922590/816891350611918858/image0.gif

[inland hedge]

I meant appearance wise

[oblique summit]

Hmhmhm

[oblique summit]

If ya dont mind sending a screenshot of the store page...

If not issok, maybe check email or dms

[inland hedge]

Who needs the Reclaimers? Send in the Greybeards

[oblique summit]

Fair, bulky as armor

[rare dune]

or contact devs?

[prisma robin]

appreciate it, but it'll pop up when it does. or not, then I'll just cry a bit. thanks tho! 🙂

[inland hedge]

Send in 16 dwarves at once and watch the problem disappear

[oblique summit]

Id be so down...but new guns too

[oblique summit]

With 16 dwarves we can take over hoxxes

[inland hedge]

Any problem can be solved with enough dwarves

[oblique summit]

We are the rats! Molerats! Molerats with guns and booms!

[rare dune]

its like monkeys on typewriters but dwarves on hoxxes... eventually every possible thing will happen

[oblique summit]

....you mean to say...we'll find karl?!

[rare dune]

YES!

[wary notch]

karl was never lost... we are lost without him

[inland hedge]

Make Season 6 a full Rogue Core crossover

[oblique summit]

We can only hope.....
S6 core escalation or smth

Core incursion

[inland hedge]

Better yet, send in the dwarf from survivor

[oblique summit]

Walking leadburster lmao

[inland hedge]

Most powerful dwarf since Karl

[wary notch]

what if they add drg survivors as a new arcade game in drg

[oblique summit]

An 8bit ver hel ye

Binding of isaac style

[hasty rain]

Still watching person, apparently first time they hit the run boss
"Get rid of that exposed Gatestone"
And they proceed to panic and have absolutely not a single clue what to do, their first instinct is to shoot it, then feed it to Ellis, then mine it, then throw it at the boss
This results in accidentally tossing it in the hole, only then do they get it.

So. Bit of a "Game accidentally didn't make it clear what to do when other voice lines for the same event do" moment

[vocal jewel]

Tbf its alpha

The game says it doesn't have polish on that stuff yet and you have to figure it out yourself more than expected from a finishes project

I do remember hearing something about disposing of it in a fissure or smth? But whatever it was it did immediately make me think of chucking it in the pit

[carmine zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/polandball-countryballs-poland-polska-computer-gif-27099178

[hollow bear]

poland ball!

[hasty rain]

Hence why I specified "when other voice lines for the same event do"
That specific voice line did not say anything of the sort, but others that can play do. Just, and exact quote: Get rid of that exposed Gatestone, it's protecting the Gatekeeper.

It is important to bring up such situations specifically because it is in alpha

[vocal jewel]

Ye maybe limit the voicelines to only the more specific ones until the first one gets thrown in

[hasty rain]

That is a very good solution!

[cyan mist]

Theres a line where OMEGA does tell you to toss it into the rift.

So yes, they make it clear.

[hasty rain]

Yes
As established, some of the lines do
That specific line which played (and no other did during the first stone part) did not, leaving the absolute first time player absolutely baffled on what to do

[toxic herald]

is animation canceling depositing still a tech?

[wary notch]

anyone with the test... is there an abyss bar?????

[severe nymph]

Pretty sure I saw the bar in a video

Looked like it anyway

[wary notch]

lets rockin go

[severe nymph]

I've watched Sniss play a full game of core and it looks so cool

It's basically turning a deep dive into a rogue like

[wary notch]

im pumped

my friends list is devoid of any prey

[sturdy blade]

Will the devs add an endless mode to rogue core?

[wary notch]

i mean my buddies havnt recieved the test

[wary notch]

no confirmation they said its likely though

[severe nymph]

Good question

I'd hope so

[sturdy blade]

Likely sounds promising, I can't wait to see how far people can go

From what I'm seeing, i'm already a fan

[wary notch]

i hope there is either endless or its like 10 missions and the later ones are extremely hard

modded difficulty hard i mean

[rare dune]

oh anyone know when the next round of alpha invites are going out?

[raven wharf]

Probably not for the same reason there isn't an endless deep dive. Not saying it isn't possible, but don't hold your breath.

[shrewd glen]

Not yet planned.

[rare dune]

okay if i sleep for 12 hours a day it'll basically be like time skipping

speed up the wait

[vital owl]

Yeah, he sounds kind of evil.

[summer dew]

Well he's supposed to be but I just don't like the voice 😭

[vital owl]

Why would your support AI need to be evil?

I have no idea how to get to the closed alpha chat.

[tall plume]

there's an ingame button you can click

[atomic narwhal]

Rogue core was real fun so far

[wary notch]

you say these things and it makes me happy yet sad as i could not be there

[atomic narwhal]

I wish you the best of luck when the next wave of codes goes out!!

[wary notch]

rock and stone brother

[atomic narwhal]

Rock and stone!

[glass reef]

why is rouge core useing epic online services instead of steam like drg

[tall plume]

?

[glass reef]

few friends looking into things have said rouge use epics online stuff instead of steam

[wary notch]

the devs love steam from what i can tell

[tall plume]

it doesn't

your friend saw the Epic brand because DRG uses Unreal 5 (which is an engine made by Epic, like every other unreal engine) and went on assumptions from there.

[worldly pecan]

Does anyone know if there will be more keys given out?

[wary notch]

im getting my other cave crawlers to go on strike we will be dancing in the abyss bar and drinking until we get out keys

we will not work until the company lets us work

[solid dome]

if you have a key already, will you still have one by the next wave? 🤔

[tall plume]

probably

[tall plume]

nope

[worldly pecan]

Darn

[solid dome]

it's a shame there aren't more keys you can give out to people, only being able to invite one friend sucks

[severe nymph]

pretty sure they said theyd be more then one wave we just dont know when

[brittle hemlock]

they will add more players during thw alpha depending on how easily they can take all of the feedback. the sign up wont close but its undetermined when new platers will be invited.

[raven wharf]

As far as I'm aware they'll have sessions where the playtest is active and everyone who has been invited can participate. Every session will likely add new people into the pool. The length of each session is unknown as is the amount of people that will be invited.

[severe nymph]

manifesting three gazillion steam keys being sent directly to my address

[worldly pecan]

Thanks for the info @severe nymph @brittle hemlock

[severe nymph]

[stoic laurel]

To those who have played it already, is the rogue really core?

[tall plume]

very much so

[thin sparrow]

its interesting that cave leeches can grow so far down

is deep rock galactic going to be ported to unreal engine 5 as well?

[stoic laurel]

If i promise to not send feedback will i get a key?

[stoic laurel]

Hope so

[thin sparrow]

yeah it would be weird having 2 adjacent games but one of them is in a different engine

hopefully they port it once rogue core is finished

[stoic laurel]

I mean, porting a full game to a new engine seems hard

[thin sparrow]

they would be really experienced in both engines by then

i bet they could do it

[summer dew]

It would double the game size and up the minimum reqs so hopefully not

[thin sparrow]

but dont people say rogue core runs better than DRG?

[summer dew]

No it runs worse

[thin sparrow]

oh

[summer dew]

The devs also said this as well in their stream

[thin sparrow]

they said it runs worse?

[summer dew]

Yes

As of right now, it runs worse than deep rock galactic

[tall plume]

no

[stoic laurel]

Good

[summer dew]

It also would break every mod in existence so let's hope not

[thin sparrow]

oh yeah

i forgot about that

[stoic laurel]

Just to clarify, drg will still be getting new seasons, right?

[thin sparrow]

yeah they said it will

[wheat river]

RC uses steam, same as DRG, as can be seen by you not having to link an epic account on startup to play online

[tall plume]

also it shits all over consoles players

[rocky trellis]

damn no access for me. anyone else played it yet? what do you think

[thin sparrow]

is rogue core going to have character customization?

[tall plume]

did you see the forum thread ?

[raven wharf]

Porting games to entirely new engines is extremely time consuming and difficult. I'm very confident in saying that DRG will not be ported to UE5.

[wheat river]

Yes

[stoic laurel]

Thank Karl, did they say if it will continue in "2 season per theme" format?

[tall plume]

it was never a "format"

it was only coincidental

[thin sparrow]

well it works well

[summer dew]

Corespawn Escalation incoming

[thin sparrow]

i like 2 seasons per theme

[tall plume]

depends if they have leftover things from S5 development they'd like to put in the game

then maybe

[thin sparrow]

they could add some events from rogue core

[stoic laurel]

Ptsd sim

[stoic laurel]

Same, but i feel that the time between them could be significantly shorter

[thin sparrow]

season 5 only took so long because they were working on rogue core already

[tall plume]

they're not putting more months between two seasons because they think it's funny, you know

[raven wharf]

But what if the next season comes out a month after? That'd be funny.

[deep skiff]

Yes

[stoic laurel]

Then why the hell are you laughing

[tall plume]

because you are funny

[stoic laurel]

😦

[lapis rune]

whatre wrecked vehicles & lost cargo things for?

cargo bay

NVM

is there dwarf customization? i swear i saw a falconer without the nasty sideburns

he had a blonde beard

[tall plume]

not yet

[solid dome]

the sideburns are the nasty part of falconer? covering that horrid mouth and jaw is a blessing

[sturdy blade]

What's the Guardian's ability? I can't tell from another person's pov

I only know Slicer and Falconeer's abilties

[solid dome]

guardian has a radial pushback

[sturdy blade]

But from what I've seen they're meant to be parrallels to the miners

[sturdy blade]

And what about Spotter?

[solid dome]

shoots a dart at an enemy that makes them take bonus crits/crit damage iirc

[sturdy blade]

oh sick, I'm glad they all have their own identities and unique "ideal" builds :D

Do they all have the same grenades or unique grenades?

[desert mortar]

Same grenades

well

It’s mostly from the main game, drg.

[mossy ruin]

grenades are not intrinsic to a class

[desert mortar]

I love myself some 4x Vertically Gifted + Combat Stim + 4 Air Jumps

[severe nymph]

Had anyone found an upgrade that lowers class ability cooldowns or no?

[desert mortar]

There is a few

[severe nymph]

Cus it'd be sick if you can spam tf outta the sword

God I can't freaking wait Holy molay

[desert mortar]

One that gives back 10% charge on kill

Another gives you 1% for each hit taken with no cooldown

And some other one that i might’ve forgotten

[severe nymph]

The first sounds amazing

[desert mortar]

It’s busted with shock blaster

Full charge shock blaster chains over to 4 other enemies and deals a base of 400 damage apparently

Enough to one-shot any mob up until stage 2-3

[severe nymph]

Which ones that

Is that the one where you throw balls

The ball thrower

[desert mortar]

Not balls

It’s a handgun

[severe nymph]

Oh

Thought you meant the class ability

[desert mortar]

If you pair it up with the bounce upgrade

[severe nymph]

Mb

[solid dome]

i got a lower cooldowns one on kill on slicer but the sword swing that got the kills didn't seem to trigger it

[desert mortar]

The electric chain can actually chain itself

[severe nymph]

That sounds sick

[desert mortar]

Yes

It doesn’t

[severe nymph]

Can't wait to see what builds last

[desert mortar]

Proc that effect

[solid dome]

it'd be busted if it did, in fairness, but it was a shame

[desert mortar]

Which is why you need something with high chain and damage potential like the shock blaster

Which basically has the same damage output as slicer’s sword

[south wigeon]

mm didn't get into the closed alpha. Very sad.

[sturdy blade]

Does Guardian's pushback benefit from any upgrades?

[desert mortar]

How many testers were selected in total during this wave?

[severe nymph]

7

[south wigeon]

At least 4

[desert mortar]

I believe the radial one

[sturdy blade]

A few hundred I think

[desert mortar]

Increase AoE range

Though i am not entirely sure if that works

Or is only applied on weapons

[severe nymph]

That's alot less then I thought there'd be

I feel less bad about not getting in

[desert mortar]

I’m one of the lucky few then

[severe nymph]

The odds were not in my favor

[sturdy blade]

More precisely, does The pushback scale with a damage type? Like electric or melee?

Few hundred meaning I'm guessing just short of 1000

[desert mortar]

Already used my invite to another friend since he wanted to play so badly

[desert mortar]

From what i’m guessing probably explosive

[sturdy blade]

Good news!

We love explosions here

[severe nymph]

Is the only real support tool the big pushback thing that the one guy gets

[desert mortar]

Guardian yes?

[sturdy blade]

Spotter would also count I guess

Since it's an attachable debuff

[desert mortar]

He has 2 abilities

[severe nymph]

I'd fw more team based support tools tbh

[desert mortar]

The primary part of the ability is just a stun that has some decent AoE

Damage is very bad though

4-8

[severe nymph]

Makes sense

[desert mortar]

Per rock

[sturdy blade]

I think they want to focus on upgrades being team-based

[severe nymph]

Makes sense

[sturdy blade]

The abilities they have also need to be useful in single player

[severe nymph]

Thats also true

[sturdy blade]

So I can see why they're not entirely team-oriented

[desert mortar]

Slicer is amazing for solo play

Like he’s the easiest character to use honestly

[sturdy blade]

I think I'm gonna main Guardian just from what I hear

[desert mortar]

I’m gonna main spotter

[severe nymph]

I'd like if there was a guy with some super techy bear trap looking things and they'd cling onto enemies crippling there speed

[desert mortar]

Since his darts are actually pretty good

[sturdy blade]

Gunner is my best out of the miners, so Guardian seems like a natural counterpart

[severe nymph]

What do they do again

[desert mortar]

Shooting it on the ground would cause nearby targets to be crit vulnerable compared to shooting an individual target only

The dart AoE lasts for around 4 seconds and the effect lasting at around 4-6 seconds

[severe nymph]

Oh sick

[sturdy blade]

But they lose the effect if they're out of the aoe right?

[desert mortar]

No

It lingers

[severe nymph]

Yeah making things critically vulnerable sounds sick

[sturdy blade]

Nice :o

[desert mortar]

For 4-6 seconds

He’s incredibly strong as a support

Man i miss it when i had the PGL Deepcore with 7 Magazine

[severe nymph]

I had a small thought but since each section has a timer for hoe long you should stay before all hell breaks loose I think that kinda takes away from the silliness of drg

Idk if that's the intent or not

[sturdy blade]

RC's tone seems a bit more serious compared to DRG

Mostly because of Omega

compared to Mission Control

The reclaimers themselves also seem to have more serious attitudes

[severe nymph]

Thats true

I'm sure the game will still have its Goofy charm but in missions it definitely seems more "get in and do your job before you get torn to shreds"

[sturdy blade]

I assume the horde can also be reworked in order to not overwhelm you the second it starts, like scaling intensity over time, kinda like an "Overtime" mechanic

[severe nymph]

Maybe

That'd be neat

[desert mortar]

When i saw the orb

I prayed that there was a voiceline if you were to use a laser pointer at it

[sturdy blade]

And tbh, I like the fact it's more serious and fast paced. Because we can always have the silly goofy stuff in DRG as the Miners

[desert mortar]

Like how you laser point golden nuggets or mushrooms

My recent run was hella silly

I had like 400% jump height

[sturdy blade]

The Reclaimers being the more seasoned and experienced "Elite Team" seems like a good change of pace, and makes them even more different than the miners

[desert mortar]

Allowing me to reach the cave roofs with ease

Full fall damage immunity

Full gun handling control (no spread, no recoil)

And i had 4 double jumps

[sturdy blade]

Are you able to acquire things like the grappeling hook, shield, c4, or sentries?

[desert mortar]

Ye

Equipment Boxes

[sturdy blade]

That's awesome

So the tools like flaregun, and platform gun would be counted as "Support boxes" right?

[severe nymph]

Yes it's pretty cool

[desert mortar]

The next time i do a run

[severe nymph]

You could have two movement tools

[desert mortar]

I wan’t to stack up as many defensive perks as possible

[sturdy blade]

Having your own platform gun with a grappeling hook!

[sturdy blade]

Safety First! :D

[desert mortar]

The one allowing you to take -4 less damage front attacks that are 160* in front of you

[severe nymph]

Literally perfect

[desert mortar]

Like it’s absurd

If i stack enough nothing can kill me

With the exception of the hollow purple.

[severe nymph]

Does the plats have the fall damage suppression by default

[desert mortar]

Yes

[oblique summit]

Im not sure about this, but are grapple hooks obtainable at the 1st armory?

[desert mortar]

They do

[desert mortar]

No

Those are uhhh tools

[oblique summit]

😭

[desert mortar]

Not equipment

[severe nymph]

Heck yes

[oblique summit]

So only plat gun/flare gun/drills/ and zips are avail at 1st armory

[desert mortar]

Yes

[oblique summit]

Aaaa

My hook....

[desert mortar]

You better get the equipment box

But spro

You can instead get the combat stim

[severe nymph]

I want to have a hook and like any other weapon then scouts primaries

[desert mortar]

Full gun handling, double movement speed, double jump height, fall damage immunity at the cost of 25 hp

With no cooldown and infinite uses

The effect lasts for 10 seconds

[severe nymph]

Oh yeah the stim

[desert mortar]

The stim is busted

[severe nymph]

Funny

What's it do

[oblique summit]

Yipee drugs

[desert mortar]

It’s probably gonna get hard nerfed next wave

[severe nymph]

Sob

[desert mortar]

All of the stuff that i’ve stated above

[desert mortar]

^

[severe nymph]

Oh

NY blind ass

[young vessel]

THE STIMMM i need to sttimm so baaddd

[desert mortar]

I love the stim

I die with the stim

Oh yeah i’m not sure but

I think the bonus red sugar hp gained from mining uhhh perk

Is weird?

It doesn’t feel like it adds on the percentage in addition

It feels like they’re separate stacking multipliers

[maiden lantern]

Some of those Helldivers from Super Earth snuck back to the Abyss Bar it seems

[severe nymph]

True true

I wonder if anyone has gotten any of the music to listen to on yt

I also wonder of cooper will get better upgrades or will he just keep getting minor upgrades

[copper sandal]

I was wondering about people's opinions on the Enhancement system? Seems similar to perks, which doesn't make me all that excited for it. I know its still in alpha but I would like to hear opinions on what would be possible improvements on it.

[lapis rune]

i like that its quite a lot for 4 perks

but not very unique

[uncut folio]

Yes, can confirm

[steel swan]

One thing I noticed in the rogue core videos is that is seems like the reclaimers start with a few drg perks even at level 1
like power attack and the passive part of heightened senses

[young vessel]

what if uh the uh they replaced the system to make like uh certain upgrades more likely to appear tee hee

[uncut folio]

Dunno about heightened senses but power attack yes

Leech managed to get me so I’d say otherwise

[copper sandal]

Yeah that would a cool enhancement to have, but it feels possible for them to add to the current system. I was brainstorming some ideas and an idea that came to me was a possible Enhancement Trees. Each Tree specializing in a certain aspect of the game: example like Gathering Tree, Loot Tree, etc.

[steel swan]

in sniss's video the heightened senses flash appeared though it didn't have the active break free part

[uncut folio]

It may have been I wasn’t paying attention

[weak kelp]

Rn it’s baseline traits that function well with any class. Some examples include more health, more amo, more mineral capacity, and more minimum health regen.

[severe nymph]

Cool that it's there in some mild way

[weak kelp]

Also reduced fall damage. I’m a big fan of that one since there’s no shields.

[desert mortar]

Btw

Imo when you start off the game

[copper sandal]

I was thinking of keeping it general for all classes but provide more substance compared to DRG's perk system. Make it feel like while we do gather the chips for enhancements, make it more thought provoking to decide on what Enhancement Tree you want to focus on.

[desert mortar]

Get breathing room and extra mineral capacity tier I

[young vessel]

oh by the WAY, is there a reason for the intro with the shard wall opening thing and then walking into a structure to get your weapons or is that just a cosmetic thing

[weak kelp]

I definitely think it would be cool to have some type of equipable active perk that compliments the new mechanic.

One could be a single use ability to copy a perk, equipment or weapon in a run so more than one player could take it.

[copper sandal]

That's the Greyout Zone Barrier thingy. Reason why the facility went dark and Reclaimers are going in. Basically, just really cool lore and entrance sequence.

[severe nymph]

I feel like since the repd moves so fast you prolly don't need extra mineral space

[desert mortar]

I had a run where we didn’t have the barrier

From when we started

[severe nymph]

Pranked

[desert mortar]

There was literally no barrier

[severe nymph]

It's just a normal cave your in

[young vessel]

can you mine around the barrier with your pickaxe

[severe nymph]

Nothing actually went wrong

[weak kelp]

There’s a wave clock that starts after you pick up your weapons and equipment, so I think it’s there as a primer for players to have time to ready up.