rogue-core-chat

[rancid minnow]

me when embed failure

[carmine zenith]

I can't say much, but I can say it's the game of all time.

[rancid minnow]

you're breaking my heart, tater </3

[keen shuttle]

Soooo, we're still getting paid right?

This isn't a one-off mission with no method of return right?

[patent storm]

Real

[clever orbit]

fr

[clever orbit]

do you know when the first wave of alpha testers will be let in

[long breach]

Likely in a month is what it said on the steam blog post

[clever orbit]

epic

[tulip jolt]

Y’all do we think rogue core is going to come out in 2025, or later?

[neat acorn]

later

[tulip jolt]

Dang

I hope silksong will tide me over cause I can’t wait

[vital blade]

So excited for closed testing! Signed up on Steam, hoping so much they pick me for testing, have been SO HYPED about this game.

[south kiln]

not yet

[plain sonnet]

hype

[fluid jacinth]

From what I understood the game will go into early access during this year. After the closed testing. And early access will continue for 12-24 months with the full release somewhere between 2026-2028

[tulip jolt]

Thank you for the info

[daring hill]

ok god checking the steam discussions was a mistake

this game is never going to be free of people going "why isn't this a game mode in DRG???" is it

who cares about things like explanations and good reasoning, when you can complain for no reason!

[neat acorn]

never look at steam discussions for anything

save your sanity

[daring hill]

Plus, every single person currently complaining about rogue core being a new game will complain about it costing money, and they would do so even if it WAS an expansion

its just our form of people complaining about the fact theres no medic class, or water biome, or shooting range, etc

uninformed people whining and refusing to be informed

[dusky brook]

"Oh nooo its gonna cost money" yes cuz it's a new game altogether! What are they expecting?

[delicate flax]

steam forums have a more consistency of terrible takes than the other medias

[daring hill]

once again people need to realise that we KNOW what would happen if rogue core was just an update

if you want to know what would happen, look no futher than TF2's MVM mode

A game that is completely different to the one its made for, that doesn't blend well at all with it, and has to make a billion compromises, while also not able to reach its full potential

MVM suffered from just being a new game mode, and its absurd to me that people want that fate for rogue core.

[delicate flax]

most of usteam discussions is the uninformed

the devs don't communicatr everything in there like they do in the discord

if they knew the game directors and devs responded to that same question with careful response (#rogue-core-chat message) they wouldn't be as pissy about it being a new game

[daring hill]

and the best part is they updated the steam page with a ton with information

but who cares about reading, just keep complaining!!

[delicate flax]

Oh yeah they just did that recently did't they?

[hidden reef]

Is rogue core going to be a more gun related game rather then mining game if you understand what I’m trying to stay

Say*

[gaunt bronze]

Not sure if this has been asked already, but the gauntlets in the trailer look different from the ones in the April Fool’s video. Are the ones in the trailer just the old designs that haven’t been updated yet?

[worn wave]

The cave traversing elements still seem to be there though.

[fluid jacinth]

Probably since the premise is more about restarting the mining equipment and facilities down in the core. Mining expenite is probably more about upgrades then just brining the profit margins up

So more survival/shooting focused but wouldnt expect it to be by too much compared to regular drg

Id imagine its going to be like having the extraction sequence feel but the entire run

[lime raptor]

My only worry with Rogue Core is, can I play it offline? I do hope it can be done, even if we have bots as teamates or none at all I wouldn’t mind, an offline/solo mode I feel is integral, given Ghostship game’s track record

[warm halo]

guys

do the rogue core dwarves still say rock and stone?

[inner granite]

Yes

[warm halo]

HELL YEAH FOR ROCK AND STONE

[inner granite]

I hope we will get something ala endless mode: finish mission, enter elevator and another mission, but with items from last one and harder enemies

[median sleet]

probably yeah

[earnest jay]

ngl the health upgrade shown in the personal upgrades selection seems really reliably good

[amber tide]

Funny thing is, didn't the dev team have to switch engines because of particle issues, causing the delay? Like, if anyone would bother doing some research, they would find the answer

[earnest jay]

and the more you invest into it, the more hp you'll get back whenever you try to get a percentage heal (if there are any) or just getting the same perk again.

[daring hill]

they kinda did switch engines, but not because of particles. rogue core is on UE5 now

they did have to do work with particles a lot to solve those issues

but otherwise two different things

[amber tide]

What I was referring to. They literally couldn't make it a separate gamemode, even if they wanted to

[daring hill]

the particle issue and changing to UE5 are, afaik, totally unrelated issues

[median sleet]

That's not why DRG and RC are seperate games. At least not the entire reason

[daring hill]

that post says they don't want it to carry into rogue core, which happens to be a new engine, but AFAIK rogue core didn't need to be on UE5 for those particle changes to happen

at the same time, they explicitly say "the particle effects system in Unreal 4 ", rather than "the particle effects system in DRG ", so who knows

[real aurora]

The way I read it, it's this

[inner granite]

Both DRG and RC have totaly diffrend vibe and systems

It would be hard to add rogue like system to game not made for rogue like systems at all

[daring hill]

I think Rogue Core could have been an expansion, but the end product would be inferior to rogue core as a new game

[inner granite]

Also, lore

In RC we are diffrend dwarf than in DRG

Diffrend guns, diffrend everything

[daring hill]

sorry to bring this up as an example again, but TF2's MVM mode was never able to make balance changes to weapons or add new ones specifically to MVM, and thats because its a gamemode, not its own new game. And what balance changes it DOES make are poorly explained.

Rogue Core would suffer the same fate as MVM, were it to be a new mode. Zero new weapons or balance changes could ever happen.

It really is just the poster child for how bad Rogue Core would be if it was just a game mode in DRG

[old swift]

now gsg is free to nerf coilgun fear in drg since they're separate games

[fluid jacinth]

I remember them mentioning making it a game mode was too restrictive for the vision they had and they thought the idea had "legs" so they decided to make it a seperate game

[lime raptor]

I hope you’re right heh

[glossy heath]

When can I expect an invitation? For some reason it hasn't arrived yet.

[fringe narwhal]

Not everyone will get one

[median sleet]

I don't see why it wouldn't have a single player option.

[daring hill]

With the dev Q&A, it seems like for every week long test they will invite more people

So if you get in for the very first test, you will have access to every future test

Rather than getting a new group of testers every time

[fringe narwhal]

Interesting

[lime raptor]

You never know, I’ve seen odder things happening with developement teams, unless we have confirmation and proof, I’ll still be a little skeptical

[median sleet]

I assume a dev already respondended to that question in a dev stream or something

The google doc might contain it

[frank helm]

Because they make it a co op synergy shooter where you build your build in a way that it fits your teams options

I don't know how you'd make that singleplayer

[finite laurel]

DRG is designed around team synergy but still works just fine solo

[frank helm]

You're not forced to build your build for your team in drg

Bosco would have to choose upgrades looking at what I'm choosing

[finite laurel]

If you’re planning Rogue Core solo you just pick the options that suit your needs. DRG has the technology to dynamically change enemy spawn rates dependent on how many players are in the match, I’m sure the same could be implemented

[frank helm]

I can drop in with gunner and carry the whole team alone, if that's possible in rogue core they kinda failed at their objective

[finite laurel]

In any case I’d be severely disappointed if there’s no option for singleplayer

[fringe narwhal]

Singleplayer could be interesting as a sort of "very hard" mode

[lime raptor]

my point exactly

[pure vessel]

You get a drone to help you. I will be a bit like in DRG where playing SOLO is not way harder than COOP.

[fringe narwhal]

[pure vessel]

Yes, you will be able to play it offline solo.

[lime raptor]

oh awesome! thanks for the info c:

[pure vessel]

Yeah we wanted to have more freedom to make new cool stuff without it affecting DRG or vise-versa. So breaking it off into a seperate project makes it SO much easier to just do stuff, change it, breakt it, etc.

[pure vessel]

You will be able to find both old and new guns 🙂

[fringe narwhal]

More gun

Yipee

[pure vessel]

We had to convert all particles. It took ages. 😭

[pure vessel]

Yes

[median sleet]

Can it be 'ported' over to DRG? Or will the new particle system be a Rogue Core exclusive?

[fading thistle]

Damn I though they would shout ROUGE AND CORE!

[amber void]

Does anybody know when can we expect to get access to the closed alpha? (Like a time frame)

[pure vessel]

We have tweaked the weapons from DRG to fit better for Rogue Core, so they no longer share the same numbers, yet keep the gameplay. We'd like to keep them seperate.

I'm very sure we'll have animation cancelling and such though.

[pure vessel]

Nothing concrete yet.

[fading thistle]

What are the loose stones then?

[pure vessel]

I'm not a 100% sure I'm correct, but I'm pretty sure they have 3 different faces. However, we are changing the faces to some new more tough looking ones. 🙂 They look very cool.

Not sure how viable it is, but it would be cool if you could change the face of your dwarf too.

[fringe narwhal]

Ooooh

Character body customization would be really cool yea

[fading thistle]

@pure vessel are any of the dwarves female?

[pure vessel]

DRG started facilities in Hoxxes, it's not some mysterious race or such.

[pure vessel]

I can't tell the difference

[fringe narwhal]

A mysterious race called management

[pure vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-denzel-my-man-denzel-washington-myyyy-man-gif-376647294737879812

[fading thistle]

Clearly it was the elves

They are always medelling in places they shouldn't be

[pure vessel]

DRG got greedy and then the greyout happened and all contact to the facilities were lost

[fringe narwhal]

I cracked the code 😎

[pure vessel]

so that's why there's cool structures and shit

[neat acorn]

Expenite is green

Mission control is also green

Curious

[fringe narwhal]

Conclusion

Mission control is Expenite

[fading thistle]

Mission control is an expenite junkie

[neat acorn]

All this to fuel his addiction

[fading thistle]

They can't stop hoarding the shiny gems

Tbh I would hoard expenite too

[fringe narwhal]

Mission control is a lootbug who ate too much expenite and mutated

[fading thistle]

Why doesn't management farm expenite with lootbugs?

[pure vessel]

Who said they aren't?

Nobdoy knows what experiments have been going on down there

[fringe narwhal]

I really hope we get to have like a little pet lootbug in the ramrod.

It would be so cool

[fading thistle]

Shouldn't eat precious minerals, it would get you killed.

[fringe narwhal]

Imagine it having a little food bowl filled with small gold and nitra chunks

[amber void]

Just give them some laxative

[fading thistle]

Luckily the driller isn't on the station

(He eats rocks for breakfast)

[fringe narwhal]

Rocks aren't minerals, rockhead

[fading thistle]

Does it look like driller knows the difference?

[fringe narwhal]

I mean, he is the expert on rocks

[fading thistle]

The minerals are what makes rocks taste good

[fringe narwhal]

Fair point

[median sleet]

Do any of the reclaimer dwarves eat rock?

[visual latch]

It's okay, the drills can't drill minerals, just rock

[fading thistle]

Driller secretly eats some of the minerals from his bucket

Dysterium tastes the best imo

[visual latch]

Slander

[fading thistle]

Or nitra

Wait fuck both of those, what is the name of the green one that looks like rock candy?

[inner granite]

Rock candy

It now official name, trust me

[median sleet]

expenite?

or jadiz

or umanite

[inner granite]

Exponite

[median sleet]

lots of green minerals

[fading thistle]

Umanite

That's it

[fringe narwhal]

U man ite

[late horizon]

I guess the reclaimers will find out

[fading thistle]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/deeprockgalactic_gamepedia_en/images/f/ff/Umanite.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190219162933

[median sleet]

They've been trying to develop a droppod that lands next to the dwarves

[fading thistle]

It just looks so crunchy

[fading thistle]

I never would have thought that could be done

[weak sage]

It's only a trailer for the game, early access and alpha announcement no less, no need to make it go too hard right? Also Ghost Ship: Releases an awesome trailer with banger music

Looking at the trailer though. I see where the funds for our "better equipment" went

[pure vessel]

Yeah DRG is not fucking around with this one

[fringe narwhal]

They did infact, invest in better equipment

[late horizon]

so we'll have one main mission to regain the control/connect this mining facility back again with a final point or will there be like endless tries and runs to connect different segments/parts of this facility

[pure vessel]

Try truly did

[pure vessel]

We have run types with different goals, but for now the run is always ending in a boss fight. Non of them are repeats of the same run, per say.

[weak sage]

It's looking real good. Excited for the possibility of getting into the alpha, or if my luck fails me looking forward to the early access. Did solid for the first game and i have no reason to think it won't go as well for this

Early Access done right

[rich mauve]

I wonder will the trailer's background music actually be in the game?

[pure vessel]

I'm not sure how we select people for the alpha, but I'm pretty sure we'll let more and more people in over time, if I understand correctly.

[pure vessel]

I think it is, but edited a bit for the trailer? I can't remember

[weak sage]

Crab? 🦀 everyone loves crabs

[late horizon]

shout out to the music/sound engineer of drg!

[weak sage]

Oh definitely, i really hope the "alarm" in the trailer around 0:45 in the trailer is actually in the game. That alarm sound is awesome

[late horizon]

yeah this is some mick gordon kinda stuff and I love it

but I suppose it's made for the trailer (I want to be wrong)

[pure vessel]

I don't think it's specifically for the trailer. I think it's game soundtrack music with some edits

[rich mauve]

Cool! And another question - what's the multiplayer setup this time? Still using P2P like DRG?

[pure vessel]

Yes

[late horizon]

then the rogue core will have a really badass and epic sound 👍

[weak sage]

I think it'd be funny if the Mission Control of the new place and the station didn't like eachother and referenced eachother in the other game lol

[outer quail]

Reclaimers designs are so badass I wish they were in original game

[weak sage]

Like "at least you have me as mission control instead of that other leaf lover"

[pure vessel]

We are updating the reclaiemrs to look way more badass

[outer quail]

Hell yeah

[pure vessel]

more doom guy kind of vibes

[late horizon]

yeah but there are way more space rigs then just our 17th

[weak sage]

Looks and gear. DRG is playing favorites!

[late horizon]

holy crap

[weak sage]

I mean true, but i don't suppose many are in the same systems. So two operations pretty close to eachother. Competitive streaks may arise

[rich mauve]

got it

[pure vessel]

thick hands and super alpha chins

[outer quail]

Seeing what you guys managed to make with SkullCrusher DLC now I have absolutely no doubts

[pure vessel]

Our art department has been brewing some crazy shit

[late horizon]

oh you're right

[outer quail]

Definitely Blackout Stout

[weak sage]

Aside from the Reclaimers probably being DRG Elite (for when normal miners don't cut it) i wonder if we'll get some lore to find

Like, will we finally find Karl somewhere down there?

[late horizon]

will the reclaimers be voiced by the same actor as the common dwarves?

[inner granite]

I would consider there to be at least 3 tiers

Miner - close to surface, with minimal bug
Elite miner - where we are, many bugs, everything wants you dead
Reclaimer - where the gateway to hell opens

[late horizon]

I think and hope that we won't

[pure vessel]

Yes, but we'll try to get a new type of character delivery

[late horizon]

there is no problem with that, he's like the voice of the whole drg so it's fine ROCK N STONE

[pure vessel]

Yesh Javier is THE voice of the dwarves

[weak sage]

Will we be able to annoy this mission control too? 😂

[solemn tinsel]

Hopefullee nawt longbeard freight delivery

[outer quail]

In trailer I saw at least two "classes" which are Guardian and Slicer, do we choose specific perks to get titled as one or its choice by the very beginning of the run?

[inner granite]

Also, how will mod support look like?

[pure vessel]

Not sure. Mods is not something we'll look into until after full release I think. It's not a priority at this point.

[pure vessel]

No you choose the class in the lobby before take-off

[median sleet]

I support the mods!

[outer quail]

Roger that

[median sleet]

Wait they're playing rogue core before us, I revoke my support

[weak sage]

It's called being a developer privilege

They see the awesome first

[pure vessel]

Yes, they're helping us getting it ready for Alpha 🙂

[weak sage]

Oh mods

[pure vessel]

Yes, but they also get all the buggy messes first

[weak sage]

But what if the bug is funny? That's a bonus not a negative 😂

[tight cargo]

Its not a bug the gun not shooting is just an unintended jamming feature

[inner granite]

Bugs are just features that weren't intended

[weak sage]

Speaking of bugs, i need to play old games more often. I played Singularity the other day and a corpse just randomly came floating/moving past me and into the wall. I had to double-take like wtf happened

[rich mauve]

I know its probably not, but still gotta ask—will the test include multilingual localization(｀・ω・´)?

[inner granite]

Also, how "who gets access to alpha" looks like?
It's just first come first serve or devs close eyes and throw darts at monitor?

[tight cargo]

Anyways if theres no rock and stone button im starting a riot

[weak sage]

i think they should Stone and Rock!

[inner granite]

There will be

[verbal bobcat]

Its on V, as it should be

[tight cargo]

Good

[median sleet]

Send any funny bugs they find to me

[pure vessel]

No idea. I'm not the one in charge ofi t.

[chrome sundial]

They confirmed they put us all on a spinny wheel and spin it to see who gets in

It takes so long they had to hire some dude named Jared to do it for 12 hours a day

[wanton skiff]

Wrong
They assign everyone a bunny and put them in a large hat. When they need to pick testers they pull them by their ears

It's easter event after all

[nimble finch]

how do we sign up for the Alpha acess?

[chrome sundial]

Nope, Jared's a buddy of mine he told me all about it

[chrome sundial]

Steam

[late horizon]

yesterday one of the devs said that steam doesn't have any option to choose who will be let in. they only can open it in a region, so it's random

[nimble finch]

Thanks

[wanton skiff]

I wonder if Steam picks users by any kind of rule and if it's truly random

[nimble finch]

I think even Gabe doesn't know the answer to that question

[late horizon]

I don't think there are any rules. If you signed in, it already means that you're an active steam user, which could be the only issue

first letting those who signed in first? doubt that

I'm sure that steam can't link up with original drg playtime or anything like that so the most possible is random

[static pine]

as far as I know it's entirely random but if it was based on activity or like how much you play games by the same author i wouldn't be suprised

[worn wave]

I think they said they can pick region

.

[wanton skiff]

Probably the ones with most of playerbaae

(if there's even statistics for that)

[daring hill]

oh wait so its region only

ok welp I can fully count myself out as never getting access then

I live in australia

playerbase here is already small just for DRG, there's no way they will ever pick oceania to get access

[median sleet]

turned the ping off this time I see

[daring hill]

While I hope it's not as simple as "we can only pick a overall region, so we will only really let in people from the US/EU", I will admit it's freeing to not have to worry or care until a year from now

and yeah I don't really see GSG actively picking from outside the US/EU. Why would they? They'll get more than enough people in those two regions

[median sleet]

I think they'll probably pick from every region they have available

I wonder if Hoxxes IV is one of those regions, since I am kinda stuck here

[hot trail]

guys how do i heal carl he keeps dying whenever i do the carl missions

[chrome sundial]

Because I'm in Canada and I asked really nice

[merry jewel]

👉👈 Put in a good word for me x3

[supple lichen]

I do maybe hope there will be some special cosmetics for owners of both drg and rogue core

[pure vessel]

There wont. We want to keep them seperate.

[supple lichen]

completly seperate?
Hm, alright
Understandable, but would've been a neat thing

[pure vessel]

The cosmetics will be seperate. It's not 1:1 models, classes. etc.

But we also want you to enjoy content from rogue core or DRG without having to own the other one

if that makes sense

[supple lichen]

Oh i seem to have missphased
I meant like, if you own both drg and rouge core, you get a single special hat in drg as a standalone cosmetic

[pure vessel]

Oh. I don't know actually. Too early to say

[supple lichen]

Am excited for what the future holds

[median sleet]

Are there any minigames on the Ramrod?

[manic sleet]

will there be a big enough fov slider and custom crosshair options?

[wispy osprey]

Hey, got a few questions! When does testing actually start? After signing up, what's the chance of getting picked? Do content creators or experienced gamers get more priority?and will RC cost about the same as DRG?

[cunning palm]

idk

🙂

[heavy coral]

from what i've heard selection is pretty much random and testing will start within the month

from the blog post

[pure vessel]

I would love to answer, but I'm not involved in that process unfortunately. I think we'll probably have more info during a stream or post more info on steam

[wispy osprey]

thx

[daring hill]

1. In about a month
2. Totally random, but only people from one region are picked each time.
3. Who knows, but it happened before with Rogue Core.
4. Who knows, but DRG was $15 during early access IIRC. It'll at least be cheaper than it would be once it hits 1.0.

I think more people are picked every time a week-long test happens, that was mentioned offhandedly in the post-show Q&A, but there'll be more info next week

And your chance of getting picked might get lower if you aren't in a populated region, if the devs are indeed only able to pick a specific region, rather than "ok, 500 people who asked for access worldwide are getting in" but again thats still under question

[heavy coral]

honestly if its by a specific region i would think your chances are higher

less people competing for spots

chances are deffinetly lower in a populated region

[hidden scarab]

I am so ready to try rogue core, fingers crossed because I have been looking forward to this game since it was announced

[rigid blaze]

what are the chances of getting access to the closed alpha in the near future, taking into account the influx of applicants?

[median sleet]

#rogue-core-chat message

[heavy coral]

seems to be random by region so, I assume pretty low

probably a lot of signups for the alpha

[rigid blaze]

i c

[old swift]

50/50

you get in or you don't get in

i like those odds

[rigid blaze]

They're pretty high, I agree

[median sleet]

If you have 10 000 hours in DRG and 2000 hours in DRG:S they let you in guaranteed

[rigid blaze]

hope so

[snow plume]

damn...

i aint ever getting in

[daring hill]

Anyway I think I'm gonna make a supercut from the dev Q&A of all the new footage shown, that wasn't in the trailer

[wanton skiff]

I don't remember seeing any informationg regarding Mission Control counterpart for Reclaimers

It's probably abscent?

[median sleet]

I think you speak with mission control before you go through the barrier, afterwards you probably get some robot/ai thing

[wanton skiff]

Would be even more interesting if we had a direct word from management

[median sleet]

No dwarf likes hearing from management directly

[wanton skiff]

But reclaimers are DRG's cleanup group when things get serious. Seems reasonable

[daring hill]

Question for yall: for a supercut of all the RC footage in the dev Q&A video, would you prefer a supercut of ALL footage, or just the unique footage that isn't taken from the trailer?

[native monolith]

There’s actually like 2x more info in the aftertalk clips lmao

Than in the trailer

Shatterclaw jumpscare

[daring hill]

honestly im surprised they were open to have this much footage in the post-show, its really cool

a ton here to chew over and theorise on

[slate glen]

I would commit multiple crimes in order to play the rogue core Alpha

[median sleet]

makes sense considering we're only a month away from weeing pretty much everything

seeing not weeing

[daring hill]

aye

[median sleet]

not fixing the typo though

[daring hill]

manifesting raw gameplay of a full run once closed alpha launches 🙏

stream it please GSG

[latent cloak]

How we feeling about the rogue core trailer bois

[native monolith]

Very rock and stone

[slate glen]

It's gonna be the best game ever made, trust me

[native monolith]

April has been quite the month so far

2/3 of my most anticipated games have been announced

[north steeple]

Ive been looking forward to RougeCore since it was first announced, and I KNOW GSG wont dissapoint

[native monolith]

Well 3/4 actually I forgot about deltarune

[north steeple]

april has been wild, best early birthday I could ask for lmao

[native monolith]

It’s so funny to be waiting for silksong and rogue core at the same time

With one, we get new looks at it like every 2 weeks

The other had a radio silence duration of 3 years

[snow plume]

i wish more playtests did what deadlock did, where you could invite friends

[north steeple]

I think I added something like 13 games to all my wishlists this month alone

[native monolith]

Now I do love team cherry but one of these styles is a little better than the other

[cyan tulip]

Totally random, but only people from one region are picked each time.

Rip ever getting in from an African country. No games ever care that we exit.

[native monolith]

If I somehow get keys from the NS and steam I’ll give you one of them

[north steeple]

I dont know if thats necessarily true, my buddy from across the globe and I got into the first Wild Assault closed alpha within the same 5 minutes

[median sleet]

I don't think they're gonna exclude regions

[cyan tulip]

Dont Rock n Stone my heart like that.

[median sleet]

Jacob just said that steam lets them pick a number of people from different regions. He didn't say they wouldn't pick from certain regions

[native monolith]

Some games just throw everyone in due to a smaller player base

I would bet there is close to 100,000 sign ups for the rogue core alpha, and being extremely conservative

[snow plume]

100,000 and me :]

[north steeple]

I mean, going back and looking at their numbers, they had over 40,000 people in that alpha test

[cyan tulip]

100,000, WendyOfTheWoods, me, and my grandpa

[north steeple]

which is significantly more than they were expecting

[median sleet]

What alpha test?

[north steeple]

Wild Assault, from 11 months ago

[median sleet]

Oh I didn't see the first part of the convo

[north steeple]

all good

[latent cloak]

Right???

[north steeple]

I will happily wait another 2 years for rouge core if thats what it takes, all I know is im hosting a giant gameparty with everyone I know once it does

[native monolith]

I said it earlier but it’s a win win regardless

A: get rogue core early, hooray
B: play rogue core in finished, polished, intended state, hooray

[north steeple]

Exactly

My brother wants to wait for full release, but I was born to cause havoc in the mines

[thin apex]

I'm not waiting for anything I NEED to listen to the soundtrack of this game

[native monolith]

I don’t care how dangerous it is, put me in Mission Control!

[thin apex]

The music used for the trailers was absolutely amazing

[north steeple]

I know Karl will guide my fate

[native monolith]

Sophus is definitely cooking

[pure vessel]

He is

He's a very talented dude

[thin apex]

If the core stone event music was already a banger I can't imagine the rest of the soundtrack

[median sleet]

Is it just Sophus working on the tracks?

[thin apex]

TRUE!!!!!

[north steeple]

they absolutely cook some banger tracks up there

[native monolith]

I believe he does almost all the music

[median sleet]

TRJ helped with most of the DRG tracks

[native monolith]

Yeah

[tall plume]

yes, when Sophus was starting out

[pure vessel]

Yeah, but I think both Mikkel and Joachim are also involved when it comes to back and forths and direction.

[native monolith]

As expected

[median sleet]

But he's no longer at GSG, So I am just wondering if someone else helped this time or if it was completely solo

[native monolith]

I can definitely tell rogue core had a style already

[thin apex]

I guess we can expect some more bangers in Rogue Core if that's so then 👀

[native monolith]

That’s close to DRG but still turning out to be something unique

[rare quarry]

Rogue core has some phenomenal music, I wish you guys could hear it

[pure vessel]

Yes

[native monolith]

Soon, hopefully

[thin apex]

Amazing

[median sleet]

the trailer music was really good

[native monolith]

I’ve had worse odds with alphas

[inner granite]

About music: it will be on Spotify, right?

[rare quarry]

I hope so

[native monolith]

Still waiting for DRG to be on Apple Music

[north steeple]

I have zero doubts about that, everything you guys have done has smashed my expectations into pieces

my only regret is that I dont play DRG enough for how much I love playing it

[swift silo]

i hope to hear it soon

[snow plume]

if i cant get in the test i wish i could at least see someone play it

[inner granite]

I bet there will be some youtubers that got access to alpha

[north steeple]

If by some miracle I end up in the first wave of testers, I may just end up learning OBS and audio mixing properly just to stream it (if GSG is fine with it ofc)

[swift silo]

knowing my luck there's no way i end up in the first wave

do we have any info on how many people are going to be in the first wave anyways?

[heavy coral]

not yet

[hollow bear]

What we've heard so far have indeed been bangers

[north steeple]

AFAIK, "enough to get feedback but not too much that we cant get through it all"

[native monolith]

I will record all of my Rogue core gameplay on my new god pc and sell it for 1.5 rock and stones

[inner granite]

rolls 2d6
7

[native monolith]

Actually perfect time to get a new pc because I will never not be able to show a bug

[north steeple]

I too have a god gamer PC, and I even just cleaned it and reapplied the thermal paste

[inner granite]

You could just use steam record to show a video with a bug

[daring hill]

supercut is finished, comes around to 4:35 minutes of footage. some amount of it is from the trailer, but I reckon we got 3:45-4 minutes of entirely new footage here

[native monolith]

Steam record is really mid though

OBS is good

[north steeple]

though I reinstalled a fan backwards lmao

[native monolith]

Rip

[inner granite]

But its light, easy to use, and works 24/7

[thin apex]

I use Nvidia shadowplay instead of any of these

[heavy coral]

well if you have a nvidia card shadowplay is by far the best

[native monolith]

My cpu can take the heat

[swift silo]

fuck

[native monolith]

I crave to bully my new one

[north steeple]

same

[thin apex]

It's good enough and has helped me to report some issues back then when season 5 was on pre-release

[daring hill]

in my experience steam record is dramatically better than shadowplay for the purpose of clip recording

[native monolith]

They told me best on the market? I’m putting it to work

20 Google tabs, max graphics helldivers, recording on max quality, discord call, currently downloading Baldurs gate 3

It ran fine

[ripe ermine]

Do we know when the game will release fully

[north steeple]

I was experimenting with blender the other night, managed to max out my GPU only after running a massive render AND playing HD2

[heavy coral]

shadowplay has minimal performance impact since it pulls from the GPU frame buffer

[native monolith]

Late this year

[swift silo]

when it isnt going berserk and refusing to work, that is

[ripe ermine]

Ait

[daring hill]

steam record also has minimum perf impact, at least in my experience

[native monolith]

Is the early access release

[heavy coral]

well yeah especially with the new nvida app

buggy as hell

[lilac heart]

Early Access is supposed to kick off in Q4, if I recall correctly

[daring hill]

1.0 is unknown of course but considering DRG took 2 years, expect 1.0 of rogue core in 2027

[north steeple]

I just dont know how to get OBS to not crunch up the bitrate really badly

[swift silo]

i dont even use that new one but i guess thats even more reasons to not use it

[inner granite]

:p
I swear, steam records gameplay in more bitrate/fps than i get to play

[manic anchor]

Did anyone get access to Rogue Core alpha ?

[inner granite]

Not yet

[native monolith]

Soon™️

[inner granite]

Calm down

[native monolith]

Technically the mods but they’re special

[fluid jacinth]

mumma always told me I was special though

[manic anchor]

I seldom check my mail. Now I'm looking every few hours lol

[lilac heart]

Supposedly some trusted members of the community were helping the devs with ironing out the game before it enters alpha, but that’s about it

[native monolith]

It’ll be a couple weeks

[inner granite]

I teacher said that my class is special O_o

[thin apex]

It's gonna start in a few weeks so be chill

[native monolith]

I’m guessing next month

[tall plume]

👀

[inner granite]

-# in bad "special"

[north steeple]

Google, how to bribe the GSG mods to drop that soundtrack already

[manic anchor]

I was in a special ed class though

[thin apex]

Ok but now I wonder

We don't have a mission control in rogue core right?

[native monolith]

Yes and no

[inner granite]

Why wouldn't we

[swift silo]

i just want a full version of the trailer music to get released

[native monolith]

He’s there til you cross the barrier

[swift silo]

its so goooooooooooood

[thin apex]

Everything technological that gets in the core gets disrupted apparently so communicating with someone from outside is gonna be hard

[inner granite]

Hm

Suprise swarms could be tough

[thin apex]

Unless they're loud and make their presence when they appear

Take it like Risk of Rain's swarming methods

[north steeple]

thats assuming surprise swarms still exist, or arnt telegraphed some other way

[native monolith]

iirc devs talked about like, an ai assistant when you’re down there

[manic anchor]

I hate fighting the crawlers at haz 4, so let's see

[native monolith]

Not confirmed, pretty sure it was just a random conversation here

[thin apex]

Ehh Crawlers will be a disruptive enemy, Corespawn Creepers are the equivalent of glyphid grunts though

[inner granite]

Chat GPT works for DRG, confired

[thin apex]

I wonder if it can do my homework.......

[inner granite]

That would be cool voiceline

[robust yoke]

Bosco 2: It Talks Now

[native monolith]

“MC! HOW DO WE KILL THESE MOTHERFUCKERS???”

“Hello! As an ai assistant I cannot answer questions that pertain to murder or violence. Sorry for the inconvenience.”

[inner granite]

Lmao

[thin apex]

Now lets say, "hypothetically"

sends an entire essay on how to murder

[north steeple]

try using a non-euclidian slur, I heard it works fine if it doesnt think you're talking about something living

[neat acorn]

Maybe we will have to rely more on audio cues from corespawn

Like when you hear grunts yapping when a wave spawns in drg

[thin apex]

Audio cues and then it's a Clamorhead screaming at our ears

[inner granite]

horrors beyond our comperhension roar
Yup, that's greg

[rare quarry]

Do you have any non-euclidian slurs? That sounds wild

[neat acorn]

Gregspawn crawler

[lilac heart]

I would be soredly disappointed if the thing didn’t have any allusions to AM from I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream

[thin apex]

Really bold of you to assume the Corespawns will want to have anything with us... However, I hope we can tame a Rafkan :3c

[native monolith]

I want Sean the shatterclaw

[thin apex]

Are shatterclaws the creepy crawlers we saw in the q&a clips?

[native monolith]

Yeah

The bony spiders

[thin apex]

Damn

[north steeple]

really depends on what youre reffering to, but I call the corespawn cringlers and I havent heard anyone else use it

[thin apex]

These look nasty creepy af

[native monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1095114212788949002/1360003693810024508/image.png?ex=67fa3264&is=67f8e0e4&hm=f017a5618ac2281b1124265b302354f4455ca5fb85c93e342a004a11b2b7b831&

[native monolith]

He’s just a silly little guy

[inner granite]

No Man's Glyphid

[thin apex]

Oh thats... That's a colgate glyphid....

[native monolith]

This is your glyphid after smoking

[north steeple]

9/10 dentists hate this one simple bug!

[inner granite]

Steeve after you forget to feed him

[thin apex]

Nahhhh look at his teeth he's got pearly whites

[native monolith]

I think the other ones are even creepier

[rare quarry]

I like that, I might call them that too

[native monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1166496590672953428/1360215234962391323/image0.jpg?ex=67fa4ea7&is=67f8fd27&hm=ebe2cccda1e51ab0d8697d3ff4aecd4f1b02ea014051b7c0dab1a83c4e9f14d2&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1095114212788949002/1360003694585708836/image.png?ex=67fa3264&is=67f8e0e4&hm=9dc5d27db8a7df714a8c38b50905b6b3f05619e591f7df353b0f69ed5e01c13f&

These ones just give me the shivers

[thin apex]

I have no idea what that is

[north steeple]

cant be any worse than lore accurate zerg

[native monolith]

Don’t wanna be running into a dark cave without flares and accidentally stumble into 50 of those

[thin apex]

But looks like a bacteriophage

[native monolith]

Looks like you hit some poor fellers dog sarge

[daring hill]

so i dont know if anyone noticed from the new footage

but we got doom 3 spiders up in this shit

[native monolith]

https://youtu.be/BAxU_A1s8YU?si=0QhpsXrpJrRwsEEz

About 9 minutes in

[thin apex]

Nonono I mean I saw that, I thought these were the Shatterclaws

[native monolith]

Yeah they are

[thin apex]

Now the colgate glyphid

Wait now I'm confused

[north steeple]

that aint no dog, thats one o' em 'zergs'

[native monolith]

That one I’m pretty sure is also a shatterclaw

[daring hill]

hold on there pardner im 50% done uploading the supercut

[native monolith]

It had a similar look but it might be a different enemy?

Maybe it’s the imp

[thin apex]

Idk but

[forest rain]

Good morning peeps ^^ Rock and stone!

[native monolith]

The only thing that makes me doubt its shatterclaw status is it looks like it has 4 legs

And I was told they are not quadrupedal

But that was like 4 months ago

[thin apex]

Please GSG make a killcry for the pearly whites bug to be related to a dentist it'd be so funny

[spiral yacht]

Q for Devs: Hey, could I ask if you have a limit on the number of people who get alpha access? And if I signed up last night (European time) is it too late and do I have nothing to wait for access?

[daring hill]

im pretty sure the imp is that spider thing, but that doesn't feel "impy" in design

[native monolith]

It’s a zergling Lester! Smaller typa Zerg!

The spiders are 100% shatterclaw I’m sold on that

It fits perfectly with the description we got

[daring hill]

signup has no time limit, and they haven't said theres a limit on how many people get access. but it is region only.

[native monolith]

No idea about that little guy

[daring hill]

I assume they pick a region, and then a certain amount of people from that region are randomly picked

[native monolith]

Also I don’t even think it was in any of the showcases, it seems to just be on the store page screenshots

[daring hill]

the spider? no it's in the dev qna

[thin apex]

Do we have the list of internal enemy names we saw when the pre alpha enemy tease was shown?

[native monolith]

When you upload the hyper cut I’ll look again

[native monolith]

No the toothy guy

I did not see him anywhere but steam

[native monolith]

Yeah

[cunning crown]

Dwarf Random Generator

[native monolith]

It’s on the doc

[thin apex]

Then we can theorize what is it

[native monolith]

It probably very outdated by now though

[daring hill]

supercut is at 70% uploaded

[native monolith]

The two things I can think of are “imp” or it’s an enemy that used to be corespawn and was redesigned

[north steeple]

I made a mistake
Its 05:30 and I have been too excited for Rouge Core to remember to sleep lmao

[native monolith]

Because we know there was an enemy like that

[thin apex]

Ah

[native monolith]

Dang

Go to bed!!!

[tall plume]

did that mistake yesterday

I'm in pain

[thin apex]

Rip

[daring hill]

anyway im feeling very confident that with the amount of footage here, that the first stage is DRG biomes, and the rest are unique biomes made just for Rogue Core. the way the non-DRG biomes look doesn't feel like its just sections of the cave, but how the entire thing looks

[north steeple]

Time to power nap for 2 hours and then its back to the grind for me

[thin apex]

I went to bed early yesterday lmao, It's 7AM in here and I feel cool as a cucumber

[native monolith]

They mentioned that they sort of mix the biomes

It starts with a DRG biome, like fungus bogs, and then as you go down through stages it becomes more and more core biome

[daring hill]

it'd be nice to see the biome concepts for DRG revisited here

[native monolith]

Ive noticed sort of two core biomes so far

[daring hill]

such as Sponge Cluster or Caustic Mire

[native monolith]

There’s the purplely, crystal one, and then the more red one that has the big glowy orb s

[thin apex]

I guess it's because we try to see which entry is the more efficient one, if we enter somewhere like around magma core it could be harsher or easier than the other biomes

[north steeple]

I cant wait to get my hands on all the new toys to play with

Especially if they involve fire

[daring hill]

Also I can confirm a dead molly in this footage

I repeat, a dead molly

[fluid jacinth]

I want to see how the deep core creatures handle sub zero temperatures

[thin apex]

Oh... That's gore.. That's gore of my comfort character...

[thin apex]

More fur or something lol, crawlers look kinda furry

[fluid jacinth]

or incredibly potent acids

[north steeple]

A fate worse than death, experiencing gore of your comfort character with your own two eyes

[native monolith]

It’s expected

Molly is a machine, all the machinery got shut down

Wonder if that means we can power a Molly back up to get exponite or something

[north steeple]

Who knows

[native monolith]

Actually how would glacial strata even work

Would it just… melt eventually

[daring hill]

also im curious how much gameplay there is before entering the grayout (side note, is it grayout or greyout? it was definitely greyout on the store page until it got updated earlier.)

The footage here shows its roughly about the size of a starting cave in a general mining/dreadnought mission. but i wonder if there can be more

[north steeple]

So long as they got a new guy at R&D to reprogram Molly

[native monolith]

Because being near the core and there’s ice around you doesn’t work

[native monolith]

Wonder if they put guns on molly (it’s a bosco taped to molly)

[native monolith]

Seems like a little intro gameplay cutscene

[fluid jacinth]

Normally the deeper you go down on a planets crust the warmer it gets but hoxxes is kinda funky

[thin apex]

I'd say its more chill than anything

[native monolith]

You build the little barrier crackers and then run in

[north steeple]

Who said the ice is actually ice? Could me some sort of chemical reaction or something

[thin apex]

No threats at all

[fluid jacinth]

Also was talking more about flash freezing the crawlies

[native monolith]

Maybe

[heavy coral]

they are both correct depending on locale

[native monolith]

Hoxxes is definitely not normal so i guess it doesn’t really matter

[thin apex]

Also that's what I thought too, Minimules give a bit of minerals upon being repaired so it'd make sense they could give us a bit of expenite

[daring hill]

at least multiple scientists now have violent mental breakdowns at the thought of Hoxxes

[thin apex]

The planet is a whole damn anomaly

[north steeple]

I know ill ne setting things on fire, and maybe melting a glacier or two. And thats perfectly fine and normal behavior, I promise

[native monolith]

Reclaimers pick up Molly and shake it down into ELIS

[north steeple]

I can absolutely be trusted with a 100 gallon drum of napalm :)

[heavy coral]

is it known if expanite will be the only thing to mine

or will there be like nitra

[thin apex]

Pffft probably

[thin apex]

Idk probably other minerals for character upgrades

[native monolith]

We now know of 2 (3) minerals

[fluid jacinth]

What if Molly and Elis started dating

[native monolith]

Exponite, red sugar, and the anomaly crystal

[median sleet]

You played RC all night didn't you?

[native monolith]

Anomaly crystal is more of an objective thing though

[daring hill]

Here it is! All the footage from the dev Q&A. Lots of good stuff here, and the vast majority of it is entirely new.
https://youtu.be/89iDrKqJL5k

[thin apex]

ROBOT YURI YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

[north steeple]

I wonder if the morkite seeds or something related will play into rougecore at all

[weak sage]

Gonna ask for a friend who was worried, are they done with development for deep rock galactic?

[native monolith]

I’ll throw that in the source section, thank you!

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-not-sure-perhaps-possibly-mayhap-gif-16022630

[median sleet]

no

[thin apex]

Nope

[weak sage]

Figured, just asking. I think they should focus on RC for a bit though

A change of pace will help nicely

[fluid jacinth]

Important!!!
Can you pet Elis?

[heavy coral]

Was S6 on the roadmap?

[tall plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89iDrKqJL5k

thanks to @daring hill for the Supercut 🔥
(only reposting it for embed purpose before pinning it)

[heavy coral]

or are they not even thinking about that yet

[median sleet]

they will, s6 will only come after Rogue core is in early access

[daring hill]

thank you kindly

[tall plume]

thank you for the supercut 😉

[weak sage]

Excellent and thank you

[thin apex]

Anomaly crystal?

[native monolith]

I’m gonna see if the tooth guy is in the breakdown now

[thin apex]

Is is the black orb thing we saw?

[native monolith]

There’s a section where they kill a flying crystal and then deposit it for a rare upgrade

[thin apex]

Ah yea that

[native monolith]

Yeah, looked like a reskinned enor pearl

[thin apex]

Sick

[median sleet]

We really went from 'for rock and stone' to fighting rocks and stones

[thin apex]

Always has been cough cough ommoran cough cough

"The rocks are attacking us!"

[median sleet]

The heartstone is still new content to me

I still consider horses in minecraft to be new content 😂

[north steeple]

We are fighting the rocks and stones for their rocks and stones while chanting rock and stone all in the name of Karl

And dwarven capitalism

[median sleet]

If it got added after I started playing it's new content

[thin apex]

Anyway I gotta go, have a good day my fellow reclaimers! rock and stone to the core or something idk if they added new lines lmao

[native monolith]

Tooth man seems to literally only be in the screenshots

Also I saw the one orange laser pistol set an enemy on fire but I’m gonna chop that up as a perk until I see it again

[north steeple]

👀

[native monolith]

WAIT

I SEE HIM

[north steeple]

Noted, orange laser is kinda spicy

[native monolith]

3:40ish

He’s biting a guy

3:47 exactly

[north steeple]

Im actually going to try and pass out now lmao

[fluid jacinth]

Also that one pistol was firing explosive rounds

[native monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1166496590672953428/1360221553962254356/IMG_2601.png?ex=67fa548a&is=67f9030a&hm=08cdc115eb2e62dbce367278605c5fcea369064eed3b99df5c9a754eeadf1487&

There’s one on the ceiling too

I think this could be the enemy that drops down on dwarves

[north steeple]

I shall be dreaming of rocks and stones tonight

[native monolith]

Was originally a corespawn but got turned into a shatterclaw

[fluid jacinth]

I like that one new enemy that is like a glyphid guard

Also that one field projector. Do you think it blocks projectiles?

[native monolith]

Maybe, it seems to deal low damage but has infinite pierce

It’s called the field blaster but I think all the blaster names might be temp

[native monolith]

Creeper guard? I like them too

[fluid jacinth]

Its probably insane for status procs

[native monolith]

They sort of like.. compress down similar to a turtle

[fluid jacinth]

If you get stuff like that on it

Also like how they peek out from their shell here and there

[native monolith]

There was one upgrade that was something like “on hit 10% chance to fire a missile”

Or status spread perks

Seems like a very solid weapon

[fluid jacinth]

Imagine you got a teammate who has like fire and your Field blaster is built for temp shocking. Sounds like it would be really fun to just clear hordes with

[native monolith]

I think it funny that one guy tries to block and the falconeer just obliterates all of them with the charge blaster

[fluid jacinth]

Wonder if they will make armor breaking a usefull stat

Fun thing to build around in theory

[native monolith]

Naked clamorhead

[fluid jacinth]

Omg imagine field blaster with armor break

Honestly think it would be cool if breaking armor exposes "weakpoints"

or like pseudo weak points

[sage verge]

Leave it to Management to never mention anything like this to us miners until they need us to risk our lives to clean up their mess.

[ripe osprey]

Best stubby voltaic build?

[swift silo]

wrong channel pretty sure

[ripe osprey]

There’s a channel for builds

[sage verge]

That's not this channel either though

[ripe osprey]

Oh wait this is rogue core

Terrible typo

[hollow bear]

Should have left it

[fluid jacinth]

catastrophic typo

[ripe osprey]

The v is right next to the c

[sleek swallow]

I missed it by a millisecond

oh that's a terrible typo

[hollow bear]

Lost to the sands of time

[ripe osprey]

I’m never typing ever again it was great talking to you guys

[sleek swallow]

true, should've left it

[pure vessel]

it does

[brittle kiln]

[tall plume]

you can even see it do it in the trailer

[native monolith]

Epic

[errant kiln]

Core and rogue

[fluid jacinth]

hell yeah

[daring hill]

Question for the devs: How large is the current build in filesize, for comparison with DRG?

[pure vessel]

Right now it's on 3.4 GB. It can change.

[median sleet]

Add 50000 uncompressed cat images

Or do whatever the COD devs are doing to get 100gb+ games

[pure vessel]

Well ok then

[median sleet]

I have so much sway over the Rogue Core development

[olive narwhal]

As long as they are good uncompressed cat images

[median sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-scoot-sandal-shoe-gif-5065058

I am aware I can't embed here, yet I do not care

[fluid jacinth]

Ad a random 10K HD model of a mushroom into the games files

[fresh jetty]

alright I am so very excited for this. I hope I get in the closed alpha, if not expect a video called "ghost ship betrayed me"

I assume if I don't get picked all the developers personally saw my request to join and deliberately chose not to add me, and then they all made fun of me. can't beleive they would do this

[wheat river]

We would never make fun of you, and also it wasn't intended for you to find out

[robust marlin]

How many slots will there be for the playtest?

[hollow bear]

Maximum total - 1 for shadowhax

[hallow nimbus]

Add warrior

48tb tf2 heavy png

[wheat river]

Undecided, think it will start smaller and more careful, and scale up invites as it makes sense. I don't think anyone has a set exact number in mind

[median sleet]

I have an exact number in mind

[clever sierra]

at least 2 id hope

[wheat river]

If it's one of the funny numbers dm me with your application so I can revoke it 🥺

[median sleet]

Thank Karl it wasn't

[hollow bear]

@south kiln dm Jenny a funny number, don't read anything above this

[median sleet]

24

[cunning crown]

wait, there was an application? I thought we just clicked a button? ack!

[daring hill]

What if the number gsg picks for the amount that gets invited is negative

Do gsg employees get banned from working on the game

[sacred hill]

has anyone gotten accepted?

[daring hill]

Nope, tests aren't starting until at least a month from now

More information in a week

Hopefully information on if details and gameplay can shared/streamed

[vagrant scaffold]

I bought my Minecraft account during the Alpha days.
To me, new Minecraft content is having beds to respawn. 😂

[median sleet]

Yeah, it asked for my full legal name, a picture of my ID and my banking info. I hope I get in!

[median sleet]

I remember figuring out you can melt iron, I always walked around with leather armor before that

[ashen condor]

Did your application also ask for nudes, or was that just mine?

[weary dagger]

The crazy thing to me about Rogue Core is how the mission is not coming back, and the reclaimers know this going in - they aren't coming back. Now, to me that's a bit intriguing, because there are two possibilities:

• Their mission fails, and they aren't coming back. (They die down there.)
• Their mission succeeds, and they aren't coming back. (???)

Like, is there a colony down there of reclaimers that "made it"? What is the success state if you can't return with your findings / loot?

[wary owl]

is the core edible?

[weary dagger]

Ok in a Q&A they just mentioned that the goal is to reclaim facilities. So I assume that means the success state is coming back?

[mossy ruin]

how do you know they are not coming back?

perhaps the barrier dissipates upon success

[soft nexus]

Rogue and stone!

[pine grove]

That's usually how it goes in a roguelike game, you go until you can't anymore

[acoustic shell]

Wait really?

[mossy ruin]

not neccesarily

TBoI and EtG have clear win conditions, some other games do too

[indigo moat]

How much do you think rouge core will cost? do i need to start saving???

[acoustic shell]

TBD

it’s only in alpha rn

So they don’t have a price tag in mind

Yet

[pine grove]

That's true, but that has been my experience with roguelikes, I'm sure GSG will make that experience unique in some way

[acoustic shell]

I just hope that I get in to the playtest. Been looking forward to this ever since I saw the teaser.

[daring hill]

I'm curious how difficult rogue core will be, because most roguelikes/roguelites will not have you win for a WHILE

However, most games in this genre have the win state be completing the game outright

And are singleplayer

[tough rapids]

yeah

[mossy ruin]

well, roboquest isn't

[tough rapids]

rly confusing at some point

[solemn tinsel]

I feeël lyke thers alloat moar roguelites tha hav multiplaer tha hav a win state

[tough rapids]

Warhammer Vermintide 2 has a roguelike mode, a friend recently got me hooked on it and it was pretty fun. I haven't seen the other games so I'm really interested in what Ghost Ship Games will do.

[tough rapids]

Risk of Rain 2, as i remember have some win state(but im not 100% sure), but its rly different kind of rogue like

[solemn tinsel]

Roboquest tboi enter the gungeon unrailered

[tough rapids]

++

[cunning crown]

that depends... do you have a job? pretty sure if you can squirrel away 10 bucks a month you will have plenty

[vagrant scaffold]

In one of the first Q&As the devs did, they mentioned there was a way out of the facilities.

[mossy ruin]

I won't be signing up for the alpha, university might become busy around this time, and I would rather have someone else with more free time take my place

[cunning crown]

DIBS!

[mossy ruin]

and I would like for everyone to have this mindset of wanting to help develop this game, and actually give feedback, instead of "I just want to play the game earlier"

[cunning crown]

i pledge to alpha/beta the hell out of this thing, including bug reports

[vagrant scaffold]

Testers might be required to give feedback.

[dusky badger]

i mean

drg could just be taking their families hostage

go do the mission or your family dies with you

sounds like a good incentive to do it lmao

[cunning crown]

#dwarfclone17

#expendables

[dusky badger]

i want both

[indigo moat]

I am 13 years old

no job ;_;

[graceful crag]

Do you know when they will open access to the game?э

[cunning crown]

allowance? 🙂

[median sleet]

save up like 30€ and chances are you'll be able to get it during early access

[median sleet]

In like a month

[dusky badger]

i seriously doubt it'd be that expensive in early access

[graceful crag]

bruh

[dusky badger]

i dont even think drg's full release is this much

[tough rapids]

I was lucky to have a friend with whom we played after work, tested synergy builds for deep rock galactic and played 1k hours of it...
I can't physically do full time. I can organize feedback based on the experience of a player and a developer (both have 3+ years of experience in game development) in the hours after work, nothing more.
for the most part, just a desire to help a project that has stuck deep in my soul)

[median sleet]

Yeah, it'll probably be 15-20 but you can never be sure

[dusky badger]

20 at most

for sure

probably less

if you already own drg they're giving a discount

[median sleet]

DRG is 30 now, rogue core will be around the same price when it fully releases but cheaper during early access so my bet is €20

[mossy ruin]

source?

[dusky badger]

they said that somewhere

im pretty sure it was even on the steam page

welp

it was on the older one

[median sleet]

Yeah, I think they'll make a bundle with like a 10% discount

[dusky badger]

oh nvm it's totally there

[daring hill]

I wonder if closed alpha testers will keep the game free once its in early access

[dusky badger]

10% discount for drg owners

[daring hill]

Did that happen for DRG?

[dusky badger]

no lol

a closed alpha isnt a charity

youre meant to be giving feedback

[mossy ruin]

found it

[daring hill]

I mean, no offence but... I'm largely wondering if this happened with DRG, not your personal feelings on it. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind GSG not doing it, and I'd still pay, but they also seem to value closed alpha testers pretty highly

[dusky badger]

i've no clue if it happened since it was so long ago but i heaaavily doubt that lol

the reward for doing the playtest is already playing the game in itself

since by volunteering to do it you assumedly really wanna play it

and you get to do so much earlier than others if you get lucky

i just seriously hope this isnt going to be another drg survivor where every single upgrade is an increase to a stat lmao

from the promotional images it sure does look like the case though

i think it's safe to assume they'd want to show off the coolest upgrades and all the ones i spotted in the trailer were like

reload speed

and i think there was only one gimmicky upgrade i saw which made you leave a fire trail

[visual latch]

There were a couple interesting ones, like, damage resistance per nearby enemy

Double ammo, less move speed

[native monolith]

The artifacts are cool

Like the one that reduced health to 30% but gave you regeneration

[daring hill]

I reckon they are leaving the really cool stuff to stuff you can see on screen

Weapons, class abilities, etc

[dusky badger]

i dont really find that interesting tho

that's not a fun powerup to get in my opinion

[native monolith]

Even the ones that are just stat buffs seem interesting

The one that gave 50% reload speed seems pretty insane

Imagine that with the PGL

[daring hill]

Like, maybe you won't find abilities through some selection of upgrades

[dusky badger]

i want shit that actually affects the weapons i have more than just surface level stat changes

give me something that makes them bounce around or chain to enemies or makes them generate an electric arc between them

make them explode on impact

[native monolith]

I’m fairly certain that class abilities will be selected before the mission

[dusky badger]

thats the kinda shit that is fun to get in roguelites

not +30% damage

[native monolith]

And the upgrades for them are in bio boosters iirc?

[daring hill]

On its own, sure. But it could prove useful in close-range builds, or even other upgrades that also scale with nearby enemies

[native monolith]

There was one that said “10% chance to fire a missile”

[dusky badger]

ok that sounds cool

[native monolith]

I’d imagine there’s “proc builds”

[dusky badger]

and also that's a risk of rain reference lmao

that's too damn precise not to be a risk of rain reference

[daring hill]

I think roguelikes fundamentally cannot work without stat upgrades being a lot of what you can get

[dusky badger]

yeah but i never really saw anything that made me go "wow t hat sounds fucking awesome to get"

ok let me rewatch

maybe i missed some stuf

maybe im wrong here

[daring hill]

Like sure it's cool to get cool amazing abilities, but when they hit for a wet noodle I reckon you'll be wanting those stat upgrades

The problem here is meaningless stat upgrades

[dusky badger]

those arent mutually exclusible tho

[daring hill]

Shit like +5% damage

[dusky badger]

yeah those are the worst offenders and im glad not to have seen any of these i think

[paper pasture]

if ror is anything to go by, proc builds will be the strongest
...although they did say that roguecore will be completely different from drg
So you are not going to be an unstoppable force while doing your job, but you'll do your job while resisting an unstoppable force

aka time will be of the essence

even moreso than normal

[dusky badger]

ok im not gonna lie

all the powerups they showed off in the gameplay trailer kinda look lame as hell

where did you guys find the missile one?

is there another source?

[paper pasture]

it was in the latest trailer

[dusky badger]

am i blind

[paper pasture]

Called "Magic Missile"

[dusky badger]

lol

[paper pasture]

10% chance to fire a missile while firing

[lilac heart]

It's stuff that will gain merit as one's knowledge about the game increases

5% damage appears like nothing, but if it makes you kill a crawler in 2 instead of 3 hits with your main anti-crawler weapon? Huge.

[daring hill]

You seem to be against the idea of stat upgrades in general, but you need a balance of horizontal and vertical progression. Stat upgrades are needed

And again, I think they are saving the epic stuff for last

[dusky badger]

never said im against the idea of stat upgrades

[daring hill]

I reckon we are only seeing the first 2 stages

[dusky badger]

i'm against the idea of boring upgrades

[daring hill]

Plus remember: this is (kinda) doctored footage. These upgrades could easily be intentionally chosen

[dusky badger]

yeah in that case idk why they'd choose these lol

they dont exactly make the game look exciting

but on the plus side the enemies look pretty sick

[paper pasture]

which is kind of how it works in survivor
You pick the +15% damage option and the crisper finally kills things at a reasonable time

[dusky badger]

i really cant find the missile upgrade

am i blind

they never show this off

[daring hill]

But then stat upgrades are "boring" are they not? It's not some cool new ability, it's an upgrade to a stat. But roguelikes need those to function. Again, getting cool new abilities a ton is nice and all, but without stat upgrades many of them would not be nearly as useful

[dusky badger]

yeah but there are no cool new abilities 😭

[daring hill]

Could be in extra footage, check the pins

[visual latch]

Someone made a video compiling all shown RC footage, even from the post-show talk

[dusky badger]

unless you count guns as the cool new abilities

[visual latch]

Probably from that

[dusky badger]

but i seriouisly doubt t here will be anywhere near enough guns for it to give you a lot of variety

[lilac heart]

I don't know the context of Survivor, but "breakpoints" are not an alien concept in the genre and even small boons like that will allow to make meaningful decisions at different stages of the game.

5% might be meaningless in the early game if you're looking for a decent weapon or a utility, or a defensive boon, but late in the game, when you know exactly how much damage you're missing to kill something in a streamlined way, that's where it will matter

And even then

Having bad boons in the game is also healthy. It will teach players what to look out for, and/or what to avoid, or when what once might have seemed useless, has more value than anything else.

[paper pasture]

huh you do have a point
it's not in the closed alpha trailer
But i'm pretty sure it's in the extra footage
hell, it definitely was in the one trailer they showed in the triple I

[dusky badger]

wait i was looking at the wrong t railer i think

because i just found it in the pins

[daring hill]

Actually that vid is just post-show, doesn't have anything from either trailer that wasn't in the post-show

[dusky badger]

uploaded by radial from chat apparently lmao

yeah ngl i dont think i'll like this game too much if this is how the upgrades end up being

[visual latch]

Ah

Welp

[daring hill]

OK yeah I'm seeing what you mean. At the end of the supercut you see what I think are perks? And most of them are interesting and at least 3 could potentially be something to build around

And then the 4th one is just 50% more reload speed?

???

[young vessel]

that one's probably a placeholder cuz like everything else is a trade-off

[dusky badger]

the only one that looks remotely fun to get out of those to me is frenzy honestly

i dont mean to be a doomer but this really does look kinda basic and i really hope they spice this up with more fun items

[slim hill]

What video are you guys talking about? Can you link it?

[daring hill]

Pins

[dusky badger]

https://youtu.be/89iDrKqJL5k

[lilac frost]

It's definitely too early to have that strong of a take without even playing

[young vessel]

i think they mentioned that all that footage is from an earlier build and has changed a bit since then somewhere

[daring hill]

I think, if the upgrades weren't doctored, this just was unfortunate chance

[dusky badger]

i mean, this is all they gave me to base my opinions off of

[daring hill]

I reckon expenite is all the fodder upgrades

[dusky badger]

they have 0 reason to hold back on s howing their cool content

as a customer imma just assume this is roughly what they want the game to be like, at least for now

which may or may not change with feedback

and tahts why i signed up for the alpha

i doubt they'd present such an earlier version of the game that they'd change the entire fundamentals of how it works

so i dont think that really matters

[daring hill]

Most of the footage is expenite, which means more fodder, but it clearly has a chance for more cooler stuff

[paper pasture]

there's also the fact that the product is nowhere finished or in its final state.
If I were them i'd want the product to at least have a functional pre-alpha, and then add the cool stuff later once the base is solid enough

[lilac frost]

Their game dev philosophy means involving people early and often to help shape where the game goes, it's not done yet and that's by design

[dusky badger]

yep thats fair enough

[daring hill]

I also think you are casting judgement too quickly, because this is not the entire game

We have not seen every way to get upgrades

We've seen the method for fodder/stat upgrades, we've seen perks(?) But I doubt that's it

[dusky badger]

if this isnt the whole game then why would they show all the boring upgrades instead of trying to get people excited for it and increase potential sales

that makes no sense

this was a pretty big event

you would really want to show off the best stuff you got i think

[daring hill]

Because the game won't be on sale for months

[dusky badger]

they still drive up wishlists

and word of mouth taht there's a cool game coming out sometime this year

if they didnt care about marketing then why even do a trailer

might as well just not do it then

lol

[slim hill]

Deep Rock Galactic has had huge changes and boat loads of content added to flesh it out since release. Bunch of new missions types, enemies, music, fleshing out cave generation, new biomes, cosmetics, overclocks, weapons, balancing the perks - I think that the Rogue Core being in early access is going to be lackluster to start, and theyre going to hear from the community to decide what direction to take development.

[dusky badger]

yeah bro i never even once denied this

that doesnt change the fact that the upgrades look lame

[daring hill]

Don't get me wrong I really hope we get raw completely gameplay sooner rather than later, but there's nothing wrong with saving cooler stuff until later

[dusky badger]

and the way that those features in DRG got sorted out was by people being negative about stuff they didnt like

🤯

so i dont think it's evil to voice my opinion

besides, yeah, we dont know how the game is gonna be when even the alpha drops

but all im saying is it looks lame in the trailer

at least the upgrade part

[slim hill]

I dont think it is either. Im just trying to add to the conversation. I agree that its going to be missing a lot, but I confidently expect that to change.

[dusky badger]

everything else looks cool to me

[young vessel]

but did you see the hot feet upgrade or whatever it was called that leaves a fire trail wherever you walk

[dusky badger]

yes

[young vessel]

that's pretty cool

[dusky badger]

yeah i even said it's pretty cool before i think

that and the missile upgrade

but those were the only 2 unique mechanics i saw other than elaborate stat tweaks

[mossy ruin]

the magic missile upgrade?

[dusky badger]

yes

like a 10% chance to fire a missile

i think

[mossy ruin]

ATG

[dusky badger]

yeah lol it's 100% an atg reference

the 10% chance for a MISSILE cant be coincidental

[young vessel]

isnt everything an elaborate stat change at the end of they day? they increase the percentage chance of you winning, after all

[dusky badger]

i mean if you boil it down like that then yea lmao

[daring hill]

I think you are being too harsh. Being willing to give feedback and wanting to help test doesn't automatically mean feedback based on a lack of knowledge, no actual game time, and a lot of assumptions is worth considering

No offense but I'd wait until this is like... actually something to he worried about? And I wouldn't consider it any problem that exists this early

TLDR: I simply think you are calling things way too early with not enough knowledge, and acknowledging you are doing so doesn't change that

[mossy ruin]

I guess everything at the end of the day is just means to surviving and killing

[young vessel]

eggactly

[daring hill]

Like. Yeah, the upgrades in this doctored footage of picked-out clips that aren't from a full run are lame. At worst, that means they probably should have picked different clips

[mossy ruin]

I liked the red upgrades shown

[dusky badger]

im not getting my hopes up

i'll just assume this is how the game will be lol

[daring hill]

And I think that's silly, sorry

[dusky badger]

and again, in a trailer it's pretty logical to show off the cool gameplay features instead of +35% reload speed

if youre trying to market a game youre supposed to make it as appealing as possible

what if this IS the best they've got? lmao

you should also consider that

[young vessel]

ill have you know "assume the worst and you'll never be disappointed" is an effective ideology, and im definitely not just saying that because i have that exact mind set

[mossy ruin]

maybe it's just statistically unfeasable to show off cool stuff only
like, I doubt they would change upgrade rates specifically for making a trailer

[dusky badger]

yeah at worst im gonna be right and at best im gonna find a sick fucking item that makes my projectiles split into 3 grenades when hitting enemies

[tall plume]

A much more healthy mindset is "be reasonably hyped and set your expectation low but without ending up with constant criticism and scepticism as it's not more healthy than overblown optimism"

basically, keep an open mind

[daring hill]

I don't think it's fair to operate from poor assumptions made from a lack of knowledge, and then also believe your feedback should be listened to despite that

Like you can say your feedback but like. It could very easily be false

[mossy ruin]

no one is giving any feedback right now

it's just speculation

[tall plume]

reminder that the trailer is still very much showing placeholder stuff extremely susceptible to change