rogue-core-chat

[tall plume]

it's a leaf lover thing

[pure vessel]

I never do. I hate the outside.

[devout scarab]

brb guys, going to pump up my RC hours

[pure vessel]

noooo

[hollow bear]

TIL game dev distorts time perception

[median sleet]

I think I've said this before, but devs are free to give me access to their account to let me play Rogue Core if you want someone to pump up your play hours.

Is the drone named Rogueco?

[pure vessel]

Yes

[pure vessel]

He was originally called Rogey Mc Rogueface, but it was too on the nose.

[raven wharf]

Damn

[hollow bear]

It's not too late to go back

[olive narwhal]

The falconer on solo is gonna have some many friend's

[elfin ice]

Turn on god mode then afk?
??
Profit!

[native monolith]

Hmm…. Rogue core has silt walls confirmed???

[native crystal]

same

[glossy heath]

Why can developers play so much and we can't? It's unfair! :D

[viscid vine]

this may be a stupid quesiton but will RC benefit your overall account with resources. Like if I get umanite or jadizz or something in RC will that be on my drg inventory as well?

[raven wharf]

Two separate games.

[tall plume]

No, it won't

[acoustic shell]

Aren't the Reclaimers akin to Dwarf Special Operations Forces?

I wonder if we can have STEEVE in Rogue Core. It would make my day to have STEEVE again.
"You're a good bug Steeve."

[viscid vine]

that sucks cheeks

[raven wharf]

If it wasn’t DRG themed and a completely different IP you wouldn’t be complaining. It’s a separate game.

[fringe narwhal]

Yeah it's silly to think resources would be shared between games

Like I don't expect my 5000 umanite to suddenly appear in DRG survivor either

[tall plume]

it actually doesn't, in my opinion

There's nothing fun in getting into a new game and being able to unlock everything instantly
and it's not fun either for people coming onto the game without having played DRG

[river bear]

What even is rogue core

[broken flame]

It is an FPS Roguelitke game set in the universe of Deep Rock Galactic title Deep Rock Galactic: Rogue Core where the Core might have gone Rogue.

[median sleet]

Pinned messages

[broken flame]

I feel like my explanation was plenty indepth and eloquent

[elfin ice]

You are quite in-depth and eloquent

[viscid vine]

I dont disrespect this take but I thinkIt does though, at least with players that arent fully progressed in DRG. Playing one game directly siphons time away from progressing in the other game. Yes if it was a different publisher and different style I wouldn't rly care right, but its the same assets from a game that already exists. I dont understand why this concept isnt just dlc (one that I would happily pay for) in the main game. DRG Is already an impossibly long game to complete and unlock everything.

[mossy ruin]

the assets you saw in the trailer are just placeholders

RC will have its own assets and models

[tall plume]

I dont understand why this concept isnt just dlc (one that I would happily pay for) in the main game.
they've already covered and answered this many times - which can all be found in the pinned messages, along with all the available info for the game

[mossy ruin]

and RC is not a dlc because coding picking up different weapons as the mission goes was not something that could be done in drg

also, new game, fresh ideas, don't have to care about preexisting balance, etc etc

[viscid vine]

thank you for telling me I did not know this, I just joined the discord to ask about this game.

[tall plume]

it's also made in UE5, while DRG is on UE4

which I'm pretty sure have some incompatibility

[viscid vine]

yeah. I still don't like it, I doubt anybody is going to change my mind tbh

like Im sure the game will be a blast

[tall plume]

well we got all those infos laying around
there's a decent amount of stuff to read through

[viscid vine]

i just, dont like the idea of having to split my time between the two games

[mossy ruin]

if you are new to drg, and want to enjoy it to the fullest, don't buy RC as it comes out then

[viscid vine]

im not new at all lol

just new to the discord

[rocky dove]

some people would probably enjoy playing rogue core, but not drg, so this would enable those people to only have to buy rogue core and not drg and then rc as a dlc

[viscid vine]

^ that is an explanation that makes the most sense and was my original thought process

[tall plume]

but the same could be said of literally any two games

that's a weird argument to me

[mossy ruin]

mfw when silksong comes out at the same time as RC 💀

[carmine zenith]

You can only play one game, this is the law.

[tall plume]

I'd be happy knowing Silksong came out to begin with

plz Team Cherry

[viscid vine]

I mean there is not really a way to know how different the games are from each other until we are able to play them. I am assuming they will be pretty similar, but theres no way for me to know that. I really do think DRG players should get some sort of bonus or something for playing RC

[carmine zenith]

Do you skong, or do you rouge? Choose wisely.

[mossy ruin]

8 days from now
just watch

[rocky dove]

skong rouge collab like the AC x Doom

[mossy ruin]

you watched the on the horizon stream, yeah?

[viscid vine]

the what

[mossy ruin]

this #rogue-core-chat message

[viscid vine]

Ill throw it up on the second monitor while I study, maybe it will ease my undying rage

[stark sinew]

You'd be suprised what someone can do with an attention span in the negatives... /j

[coarse topaz]

yeah if silksong comes out i might have to put the rogue core on hold for a week or two

[broken flame]

The absolute most I'd expect out of it, with an optimistic view, is a hat or something.

[coarse topaz]

yeah but i'd rather get a hat for alpha testing or playing early access

or like

[simple cloak]

Aren’t drg owners getting a lil discount towards buying Rc? Or is this ancient hearsay

[coarse topaz]

carry over supporter 1 dlc could be interesting

like the name tag color

[stark sinew]

if it becomes a steam bundle, then yeah

*probably

[broken flame]

There will likely be one.

@simple cloak By itself? Probably not

[coarse topaz]

do we even know if there will be cosmetics? the vibe of the game makes it seem like cosmetics make less sense

the miner dwarves are consumers and live in the company town

the reclaimers are mission driven and highly trained

[simple cloak]

I remember seeing cosmetic armors in the alpha trailer, mega corp being one of them

[coarse topaz]

ah alright

[stark sinew]

those were placeholders afaik

the actual reclaimer classes will probably have custom armor- or something to differentiate them

[coarse topaz]

they could do cosmetics of utility

like upgrades will change how you look or smth

or holding certain items can stain your armor

idk they could do something interesting with it i think

most likely i think we'll just get a variation on the current cosmetic system

making a realistic cosmetic staining system would go hard af

like, you can wash stuff off in the ship, pick up/run into comba buds to dye your armor pink (as an example). slowly accumulate dirt stains throughout the run etc

draw on other people's armor (they'd have to stay still and let you do it)

[daring hill]

i really hope the dwarves get new voice actors. i dont think the usage of existing voicelines is just placeholders, as in the footage of showing off the npcs, you can explicitly hear NEW voicelines made just for rogue core using the existing dwarf voice actor. Meaning its not just reusing DRG lines as placeholders, there is an intention to reuse the existing VA.

you objectively cannot posit that we aren't playing as the normal DRG dwarves while using the exact same voice actor with the exact same writing style, comedy and tone

unless GSG is planning to make that "every single dwarf is a clone" theory canon

[broken flame]

Maybe that's just how all dwarves talk

[olive narwhal]

I didn't fully catch the lines in the stream i vaguely heard them

[broken flame]

Won't lie, no thrilled it will be the same voice actor, but he does a good job

[late scarab]

if the grappling hook makes its way into rogue core i'm so pairing that with the minigun

[tiny beacon]

they work for the same company in the same industry so would likely have somewhat similar demeanors and outlooks (and perhaps in-jokes), all the previous dwarves we know of sound different enough from one another with the same voice actor, and the majority of changing tone has not been shown much yet but they will probably be a bit more assured of their success than the DRG dwarves are (who say they're not gonna make it all the time) and the game overall is stated to have a darker tone that will likely affect voice lines

[olive narwhal]

Pretty sure the devs have just decided that this is how dwarves sound in the universe

But we haven't been shown enough of the voice work yet to have a concrete opinion yet

[pine skiff]

Every dwarf we play is a clone of the original Karl, hence they all have the same accent

(I offer no explanation for why different classes have different voice pitches)

[olive narwhal]

Cloning imperfections

[pine skiff]

Maybe it's related to them having between 1 and 4 brain cells

(1 = driller, 4 = engi)

...5+ = reclaimer?

[icy vapor]

If Driller mains could read, they'd be very upset.

[stone jacinth]

Pretty sure the voiceactor is the one of the lead devs(founders?) so it's likely mostly due to logistics of procuring new lines from a different person more than anything, especially when it's a dev who is expected to stick around

[tiny notch]

huh?

[stone jacinth]

Must've been the wind

[median sleet]

The dwarf voice actor is an actual voice actor. Mission control is a dev

[stone jacinth]

Ah, I mixed them up then

[exotic oyster]

Another day of me begging to test this game already, I can’t wait to hop in, I hope people use mics more though, that is the only part that concerns me. Will it have a separate server or I imagine it’ll get a ton of channels for looking for groups.

[native crystal]

legend has it that rouge core comes out one day after skong

[ornate pulsar]

is rogue core just gonna be a better drg

[olive narwhal]

Pins have the juicy details that we have at current

[keen cargo]

more like one day before at this rate

^me at every nintendo direct^

[olive narwhal]

Especially the nintendo world ones

[tiny beacon]

this should be a cosmetic in-game

in all three of the games

[tall plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367223355994013698/1306036075369725952/image0.gif

[keen cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/liar-anakin-gif-21992662

"You turned team cherry against me!"

[tall plume]

here's hoping for Silksong in 2025

https://tenor.com/view/clown-gif-25799821

[olive narwhal]

It shall launch the same day as rogue core so we can have a similar thing to doom x animal crossing

Specifically rogue cores 1.0 launch

[keen cargo]

Rogue Song?
Silk Core?

[carmine zenith]

Hollow Dwarf: Rogue Song

||Hollow Dawrf: Rouge Song||

[olive narwhal]

Core silk

[delicate flax]

Silking my song until silksong releases

Roguing my core until rogue core releases

Hey if rogue core is 🟥 what is silksong?

[carmine zenith]

Also 🟥

[native crystal]

Silksong is

[coarse topaz]

Silksong is not

[native crystal]

definitely coming out tomorrow tho

either that or February 2023

[native monolith]

I wake up <—> tomorrow silksong comes out

Eventually it’ll work

[keen cargo]

One day the silksanity will become true!

[native crystal]

December 6 2024

Mark your calendars

[olive narwhal]

Im sorry to inform you its already December 6th and no skong

[tiny beacon]

just a week away

[coarse topaz]

winter 2014

[native crystal]

CET

[coarse topaz]

we will get silksong 1 and 2 both dropped on the same day

[olive narwhal]

But rogue core will release at exactly 4:45 am on the 6th of December AEST

2025

[coarse topaz]

possibly

[carmine zenith]

rogue core chat

❤️ ya johan

[coarse topaz]

we'll come back to this comment in a year and execute you if you are wrong

[coarse topaz]

if you are a coder, why don't you just code silksong until it is done?

[keen cargo]

Sorry 🥺

[carmine zenith]

Lol you're fine, I did it too.
We're all silksong down here

[random belfry]

@keen cargo Is this a place to ask " simple " RC questions? My eyes did not find a particular sub-thread for it besides Suggestions for RC

[native monolith]

Yeah, you can ask them here if they aren’t in pins, and either us or maybe a dev will answer

You’re also probably more likely to get the devs to answer you if you ask your questions during their livestreams, Tuesday’s and Thursday’s

[tall plume]

don't ping the devs though

also we have a lot of already available info in the pinned messages

so read those before

as they might answer some of your questions

[random belfry]

I will keep that in mind. I had a few question regarding color theming of classes, melee. But yeah, thanks!

[native monolith]

Yeah

[random belfry]

facpealm Yeah, I will read pinned stuff ASAP. An jepp, no pinging. Understood

[native monolith]

If you haven’t, read the below decks too!

Very cool stuff there

[tall plume]

I think we got it pinned too

at least the crawler one

[random belfry]

Awesome! Gonna check it out... gotta grab my coffee first... Oh just a tiny question. I assume its most guaranteed to get Live Stream Youtube chat answers if superchatting?

Or if its random grabbag of questions they seeÅ?

[native monolith]

Uh… probably? Usually the days are slow enough that if you just ask it 1-3 times they’ll answer it eventually

[native monolith]

Aaron (or if he’s done someone else does I guess) reads them out from their other monitors

[random belfry]

Alright. Again thanks for clearing things up! Cheers

[forest rain]

What I would give to see some of the weapons/tools from DRG Survivors make it into Rogue Core. Especially the various Drones/Constructs since we seem to have Classes that spec in some unique builds, like Falconer being a Drone Wielder.

[native monolith]

The krakow(?) would be cool

Whatever the bouncing one is

[forest rain]

Bouncing what?

[coarse topaz]

i'm kind of hoping we see some broken down rival operations as ambience

or as a possible secondary final boss

like if you do something that alerts the rivals of your location it will summon a rival ship at the core

[forest rain]

I dont think the rivals would be anywhere in there considering the exterior barriers that surround the exponite mines

If any had got there before, they would have been destroyed by the dwarves that came there down before the greyout

We might have our own new seasonal stuff down there anyways.

[native monolith]

Gun that shoots bouncing bullets

I don’t know how to spell the name

[paper schooner]

Did you get your questions answered yesterday?

[coarse topaz]

it seems to be only rafkan and corespawn from the trailers, but is there a chance that we see fully grown glyphids in rogue core?

[tiny beacon]

the spawn menu had others

[coarse topaz]

like, a stage up from dreadnaughts

[tiny beacon]

they said they weren't going to have glyphids in RC, I think

[coarse topaz]

One can only hope

[coarse topaz]

Also, what is the lore explanation for why the reclaimers need to go to each individual stop to upgrade their weapons? wouldn't drg have the most success just loading them up to the max level and sending them into the core?

[tiny beacon]

apparently that didn't work

[coarse topaz]

dang

[tiny beacon]

not sure if it was confirmed why, I heard something about a barrier

[coarse topaz]

as long as some type of lore exists, i'm satisfied

this better be a cool barrier

[tall plume]

there's a "wall" of sort that keeps technology from working, that's why they go in naked and get weapons and equipement from the site instead

[coarse topaz]

sounds like a cool barrier

[celest viper]

I hope theres some additional lore of karl

Everyone knows him but noone knows the legend behind his name

What a shame

[tall plume]

the second it's less of a mystery, it becomes less fun and intriguing

[celest viper]

Hmmm

We should know at least why he became legend tho

I’m not expecting every details of karl

[chilly pelican]

I am expecting full Karl lore, I need his social security number, date of birth, mother's maiden name and blood type

[pure vessel]

We're focusing on the Corespawn, so I highly doubt it.

[pure vessel]

Who's Karl?

[celest viper]

Theres imposter(leaflover) among devs

[thin apex]

I wonder if there's a lore reason why the Glyphids aren't in the depths as the corespawns

[brave oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/939566301540679720/1300554445289160717/Screenshot_20240912_210710_Discord.gif

[celest viper]

I think It couldn’t handle the pressure

[tiny beacon]

what pressure

does the ocean Hoxxes is themed after affect the bugs

[celest viper]

Gravity**

[tiny beacon]

gravity gets weaker the deeper you go though???

[celest viper]

Idk I’m no boiligist

Biologist

[thin apex]

maybe they're territorial? something keeps them alive down there and since they're essentially stronger than glyphids they keep the glyphids away?

[celest viper]

Wth is wrong with my finger today

[tiny beacon]

primal fear at corespawn I guess

[thin apex]

If DRG could settle on the depths of Hoxxes and be able to do such huge mining operations without the glyphids intervening like the usual, that means something

[celest viper]

I wonder how expensive expenite is compared to morkite

[thin apex]

Seems to be only available on Hoxxes

Or more common at Hoxxes

[thin apex]

I'm pretty sure Morkite is just like some more precious kind of oil in the DRG universe though

the pressure the planet exerts crystallises Morkite

Expenite could do something else

Something more... Valuable

[celest viper]

Like superconductors or sth

[thin apex]

It is up to speculation after all since R&D keeps these things a mystery

[celest viper]

Tru

[tiny beacon]

wasn't morkite a redesign and the original was helium-3 which is like a theoretical superfuel or whatever

since with it as a fantasy mineral they can do whatever they want with it

[thin apex]

Yea

But

Morkite makes sense as some kind of fuel

[celest viper]

To infinity and beyond ahh material

[thin apex]

the Morkite wells exist

[tiny beacon]

I mean they already seem to have faster than light travel given they're out here to begin with so kinda curious what could make morkite still more impressive

[thin apex]

Deep Scans are essentially research missions for collection of Morkite Seed samples

[carmine zenith]

Morkite is a beer ingredient

[celest viper]

It’s for helldivers

[carmine zenith]

Devs confirmed that a very long time ago

[tiny beacon]

everything is a beer ingredient that's how dwarves work

[thin apex]

Dark Morkite moment

Makes sense tho

[celest viper]

Yikes we’re out of morkite again

[thin apex]

But is DRG some kind of beer making corporation or something? lol

[carmine zenith]

Most everything that gets mined/collected goes into beverage/weapon production, if you notice.

[celest viper]

Even bismor?

[tiny beacon]

bismor is used in upgrades but also in cosmetics

presumably what we get is just a small cut of what we actually mine

[worldly sundial]

Probably a beer ingredient in the same vein as Moonshine being Jet Fuel.

[celest viper]

[thin apex]

We don't talk about Dystrum

[celest viper]

Slightly rare rock basically

[worldly sundial]

I do have a theory that Morkite is rocket fuel.

[tiny beacon]

that soviet rocket that ran on alcohol that the engineers were drinking from the fuel tank of

[celest viper]

Liver would be proud

[verbal wolf]

You mean to tell me that we collect resources in order to use them?

[native crystal]

are you telling me that you havent even been using error cubes this whole time?

[fringe narwhal]

You don't eat the cubes?

[tiny beacon]

they taste like well-used highway and have the texture of regions of space no one's ever visited for those unlucky enough to never have eaten one

[fringe narwhal]

Unlucky?

They're a part of my balanced breakfast

Scrape them up into crispy slices and add some mactera milk

Error cube cereal

[coarse topaz]

wtf the devs killed karl when i was asleep

no way

[forest rain]

I wonder what Rogue Cores equivalent of a Bulk Det will be.

Or if we ended up getting some kind of Nigh-invincible Xenomorph-like enemy that prowls certain mineshafts that have lost power/sustained massive damage and would make for a bit of a segement where the team's gotta keep the noise down and stay vigilant or else.

You'd have to quietly rush to turn the power back on in certain segments of the Abandoned Facility as it will not enter/becomes vulnerable in the light.

[worldly sundial]

👀
oh god please no

[coarse topaz]

yeah i hope they aren't just mirroring all the glyphids

it doesn't seem like they are

[timid veldt]

There is a creature in the Rogue Core spawn menu called "Spider ExploderTankGhost Corrupted BXE"

[elfin ice]

he's my baby ❤️

[exotic oyster]

I hope the enemies aren’t just different sprites, it would make zero sense for a krassus type enemy in the game. Also please not another grabber or sting tail. Do we think leeches will be in the game?

[elfin ice]

"Leech so OP they pull you back to stage 1"

hehe, I hope so

[atomic narwhal]

Will rogue core be keeping rock and stone

[coarse topaz]

tbh the new dudes aren't miners

so they might not have any pride in their heritage, being as they do not mine like their ancestors

they might still add it though since it worked well in the first game

imagine they have some completely meaningless corporate-y phrase instead

"Let's get that promotion!"

lmao

variations on that

"For promotions and locomotion... or whatever they say up there"

[pine skiff]

For the record I am refunding RC if you can't rock and stone in it.

[coarse topaz]

yeah that is kind of why i think they'll just add it anyways

then they'll just make some lore reason, like "oh the reclaimers used to be miners and still talk like them"

[forest rain]

Tbh its gonna be its own catchy battle cry. They got their own culture, but are still dwarves.

[brisk mantle]

They did say that until they find a better use for the v key rock and stone is staying

[tall plume]

yes

[fringe narwhal]

Rogue and stone

[native monolith]

We saw them rock and stone once I think

[neat acorn]

rogue and core!

[elfin ice]

Rogue and core!

[thin apex]

Reclaimers are still dwarves yeah, it's impossible to have them not do their usual thing considering they're supposed to be the higher ranks of the DRG workforce

Even though, we don't have a bar in the Ramrod, they focus on getting stronger rather than getting drunk apparently

I wonder if Rogue Core will add worm enemies though

[olive narwhal]

Gotta get those gains before a mission

[thin apex]

Hoxxes surprisingly doesnt have worms

only maggots

and corpse feeders which are just maggots

Ooh what if

Hollow Bough gets mimics

Worms that mimic the spike vines

[kindred mulch]

braap

[celest viper]

imagine rival tech in rogue core

imagine plague in rogue core

[native monolith]

No

[fringe narwhal]

Imagine blackout stout in rogue core

[lone perch]

Dual flamethrowers and beer

Imagine

We waited long enough

[celest viper]

imagine ||lootbugs in rogue core||

[lone perch]

Dreadnought lootbug

Killing it crashes your pc because it drops an incalculable amount of gold chunks

[celest viper]

it finally fights back

[lone perch]

It eats dwarves because their equipment is made of metal

[grizzled surge]

"you shouldn't wear delicious minerals - it'll get you killed"

[lone perch]

Imagine a lootbug that eats ommoran heart stone and corestone at the same time

Ultimate power

Creating rifts and throwing rocks at you

[dire forum]

The thing I would do for actual mimics that regurgitate voice clips...

[coarse topaz]

nemesis pt 2

they should make some creepy stuff like that though

[timid veldt]

Make them a rare event and if you kill one you get a new dialogue line for your dwarf 😌

[pine skiff]

The only way to get your dwarf to say "We're rich!" in RC

[sick palm]

They should have a gym then

[thin apex]

They do

[sick palm]

oh sick

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[steel hearth]

it looked like there was a bar IN the gym in that livestream

[coarse topaz]

dwarfiest thing ever

[exotic oyster]

Gym, a bar, a toilet, all we need is Rock and Stone where we're going.

[coarse topaz]

according to ser pounce, there is apparently rock and stone

and there was much applause and adulation

[celest viper]

Rogue core can be played with pc and possibly with consoles

My assumption

[coarse topaz]

yeah they confirmed that it would be on both

[olive narwhal]

Just pc first

Because its alot easier to push updates out on steam then consoles

[coarse topaz]

yeah, for early access it is pc

so pc players will get it for 6 months before they even think about a console release

[olive narwhal]

Probably generous at 6 months

[coarse topaz]

yeah

idk how long drg took to get out of early access

[olive narwhal]

The steam page lists 18 to 24 months

[coarse topaz]

well damn

[coarse topaz]

for early access alone or the whole wait time?

[olive narwhal]

They expect it to be in EA for 18 to 24 months

[coarse topaz]

woah

console players are punching air rn

[olive narwhal]

Based on the steam page could change at somepoint

[coarse topaz]

ig since they delayed it already, I assume they'll either keep it on schedule or delay it again

[olive narwhal]

But they have updated the page since the oth stream

So thats neat

[coarse topaz]

the devs say that they have played dozens of hours, so i assume things are going according to schedule

i guess the console players have 3 years left then

maybe silksong will have released by then

[olive narwhal]

What will we get first skong of rogue core EA

[coarse topaz]

idek

silksong could shadow drop in the middle of july next year and i wouldn't be surprised

[olive narwhal]

Gets launch announcement alongside the switch 2 trailer

[mossy ruin]

silksong is definitely releasing next year (right guys?)

[coarse topaz]

i kind of assume that they either remade the entire game in another engine, or they finished it and are working on fearless fox

[coarse topaz]

yes! of course!!!!

(idk man)

[olive narwhal]

If silk song is a similar thing to rogue core we may never know

[coarse topaz]

3d roguelike silksong

what if silksong takes place on hoxxes 4 and all the bugs are actually just glyphids

the core is just the void

and the corespawn are vessels

[olive narwhal]

Silksong rogue core crossover

[coarse topaz]

nah it was planned the whole time to be this way

deep rock galactic was a sequel to hollow knight

team cherry made deep rock galactic, but when they looked at how distant their sequel was to hollow knight, they gave it to GSG. They atoned by making silksong

maybe silksong is hidden away within the depths of the rogue core

we will soon see

[native monolith]

Silksong and hollow knight take place under a rock somewhere on hoxxes

[main hinge]

I had a dream where I was playing the rogue core alpha

And then I woke up

And there was no rogue core

Now I am sad

[fresh jetty]

what if rogue core is just a dream

[fringe narwhal]

Broke core

[fresh jetty]

can't wait to get to the end of rogue core and discover it was all a halucination in the mind of a drunk dwarf

rogue core confirmed as a 'all in le head' game

[fringe narwhal]

That's probably Survivor tho

[median sleet]

My headcannon is that DRG:S is a dwarf retelling a mission he went on. But greatly exagerating how strong he is.

[west warren]

that would explain stun sweeper being effective

[shadow delta]

any word on when rogue core will be in early access? I am super excited to start playing.

[long breach]

Q4 2025. You can see the roadmap and other info in the pinned messages of this channel

[long marsh]

rogue core

[random belfry]

Oh, hi there! Real life took a hold on me, work, painting dwarf minis for presents, crashing on sofa until 11 pm etc. I should be more responsive me and all these Qs in my nogging! Alright.. might be a " small wall of text " but do answer when able 🙂 : ❗ Just a headsup. Im partly asking for my younger siblings who LOVE DRG but dont bother with Discord. And they kinda hope for at least RC to have all them colors linked to the awesome new classes you are brewing ( their favorites are purple and orange x) Im also into design and love how colors play a major role in say class identification in DRG/ RC case❗ Questions incoming.....-...

[random belfry]

So! my questions
1: Will the Blue, Yellow, Red, Green color coded Scout, Driller, Engineer and Gunner be someday avaiable in Rogue Core? There potentiale there. And why not?
2: Will the Rogue Core classes be hardlocked into each a color team like the DRG classes? Or change color theme from a color wheel on to our own liking?
2a: IF the DRG classes will come along, added later. Would be nice to see their classic color theming are reserved for them. So that less used colors in gaming for classes like orange, violet, gray, teal, magenta, lime, brown/ coffee can be used.
2b: IF the current DRG classes will NOT at all ( which is baffling ) be included. Would love to see the 6 main colors form the Color Wheel to be prioritized. aka Blue, Yellow, Red ( pigment primaries ), Orange, Violet and Green ( pigment secondaries ). Other classes could have pigment tertiaries like Teal, Magenta, Amber etc. Just thoughts, not demands

3: Will all other classes have some form of melee as backup weapons, besides the Slicer class? Like, the Slicer will seemingly have the utmost focus and dedication to all things melee, with awesome energy bladed ( and concussive ,energy blasting blunt instruments ) foe gutting

4: What are the color themes for?: Guess wait and see ? 😉
What my guesses and observation of the live streaming are, out of curiosity
Falconeer:
Slicer:
Spotter: Orange?
Guardian: Purple?
Gorgon:

5: Even though it seems that RC will follow a player max cap of 4 per mission and its more free-form ( yet each class are unique ), are there any plans to increase the cap to a nice even 6 later on?

6: Enemy infighting? Im sure there will be enough foes to go around. I found it very ( even if there could be an in-universe explanation ) odd that infected, bots and bugs ALL co-operated on destroying our dwarfs? Will there be a change to this in Rogue Core?

[tall plume]

5: Even though it seems that RC will follow a player max cap of 4 per mission and its more free-form ( yet each class are unique ), are there any plans to increase the cap to a nice even 6 later on?
no, probably not

6: Enemy infighting? Im sure there will be enough foes to go around. I found it very ( even if there could be an in-universe explanation ) odd that infected, bots and bugs ALL co-operated on destroying our dwarfs? Will there be a change to this in Rogue Core?
also very unlikely, considering it can causes performance issues - and would fit the theme even less than in DRG

[tiny beacon]

everyone has melee backup because the pickaxe is still a thing

[coarse topaz]

i still wish we got cave leeches randomly grabbing glyphids

it would be funny af

[coarse topaz]

oh yeah, they are mining expenite

i wonder if pickaxe will be upgradable and people will have 1000% pickaxe damage boost builds

[tall plume]

probably not

[odd mural]

this plz

[summer ferry]

Literally me too

[summer ferry]

I hope the sword class will allow you to scale the crap out of your melee

[atomic jacinth]

saeeeeeeeem

[fringe narwhal]

Wonder if we're gonna be seeing more traditional firearms in the DRG style in Rogue Core

A lever action rifle could be cool

[forest rain]

Weve seen m1000 classic

I want to see what the Modern M1000 is like.

[rapid pine]

M1000 future

[fringe narwhal]

That's the M10000

[elfin ice]

The M2000

[civic juniper]

M40k

[fringe narwhal]

Epic crossover event

[glossy heath]

And after M1000 "FOR DEMOCRACY" Edition

[frank helm]

when do we see actual gameplay did the devs say anything about that?

still seems like its in the very early stages but i know jack shit about game dev

[mossy ruin]

did you watch the "on the horizon" stream?

it's pre alpha, but it still is something

[tall plume]

it is in early stages, yeah
that's why the closed alpha isn't even around until Q2 2025

[frank helm]

i did

[frank helm]

🫡

[carmine zenith]

Wasn't it q1 previously? Did we get pushed back again or am I misremembering?

[tall plume]

it was November 2024 before, then a delay with no given date, then Q2 2025

so Q1 was more of a logical conclusion than an actual date 🤔

[random belfry]

Its indeed VERY early stages. No harm in guessing and wishing though * whistles *

[random belfry]

Yeah didnt except max player cap. Totally fine by me. And yeah, performance problems shouldnt be a thing for RC. Dont want to risk a rocky launch of the game due to different enemies fighting dwarves and each other. Would love the utter chaos though!

[tall plume]

It's not even sure we'll see different "families" in RC either so the chances of infighting might not even be present to begin with

[tiny beacon]

rafkan, shatterclaw and corespawn are different families though? Like mactera to glyphids who presumably fight one another offscreen

[random belfry]

Yeah. I admit, its a bit odd in DRG that rockpox, bots and standard native wildlife is all chill which other and gang up on us dwarfs when it seem they logically should rip each other apart. But hey! Theres hints of lore reasons and also makes use of phermone tools and weaponry more impactful

[tiny beacon]

it's a gameplay over lore thing

[random belfry]

indeed

[balmy pilot]

Making this a separate game instead of a game mode is a mistake

[tall plume]

if only you had bothered to check the many FAQs pinned in this chat

[weary quest]

where are the first 2 from?

devlogs or news?

[tall plume]

the On The Horizon stream

[delicate flax]

I don't think rockpox has complete mind control over glyphids

[balmy pilot]

Not of fan of the arrogance of your assumption of ignorance. I’ve watched the streams, read the FAQs and watched & read & listened as in the same breath it’s been called a standalone game that its own thing, built with DRG, and even saying how “DRG was a live a service game” (indicating the intention to shut it down despite the claims otherwise) & then quickly backpedaled.

The fact is, there is no reason to do this, technologically speaking. You can just bootstrap one system over another depending on the game mode.

I’ll grant that it does make it easier to maintain and manage by not having to think about namespacing types, materials, meshes, and scripts across two systems, as well as patch deployment schedules and packaging, those are all true costs, I’ll give you that, but there is no fundamental technological limitation barring it from being a game mode rather than a standalone game you can still make Rogue Core anything you want within the context of it being a game mode because it is fundamentally built on DRG as a foundational element with different systems swapped out.

I’ll even grant that y’all probably learned a lot since you made DRG and probably are ready to ditch some of that code, but that’s still not a technical limitation like what’s being claimed.

The choice of making it standalone segregates the player base, alienates long term supporters by forcing another full price purchase for what are essentially modifications & expansions to the same games (plural; DRG + Survivor) that they already bought.

I bought the original game on every platform and bought more than 10 copies for friends & family across the various platforms on which it is distributed. Bought every supporter pack, cosmetic pack, you name it. I bought Survivor too & it feels like I’m just buying it again wrapped in DRG.

Cosmetics will not transfer, even though the entire game was built on top of DRG by ripping out the loadout system & shoving in the Survivor systems–A slap in the face

[tiny beacon]

DRG's weapon system cannot change a weapon's stats during a mission without instability (this being the reason the firing range isn't a reality). Rogue Core, for its upgrade system, needed to be able to do that, which I believe is the main reason for the split. I guess they didn't want to add a whole new game-sized addition to DRG and double its size, though admittedly that still wouldn't be a lot to store anyways.
And as you said, plenty of people have bought every DLC and still want to support the devs more, so I don't know why there'd be complaints now that a new piece of content from GSG to support them with is coming out. It's a different experience, with a similar setting but a different theme and altered gameplay loops both long-term and short-term, and presumably the lack of cosmetic transfering is due to it being a different long-term progression system too, seeing as you can't upgrade your weapons out of a run.
I don't see an issue with this segregting the playerbase, either. Most every DRG player plays plenty of other games, not comitting all of their time to DRG itself, so aside from players focusing on one or the other depending on recent updates once both are running in parallel (which already happens, because those players also focus on the other games they play when they in turn recieve updates) it won't detract from DRG much more than any other major game releasing would. There's not some us-versus-them situation where players can only choose one; most people will probably play both or stick with DRG if they don't like roguelites.

[signal token]

I thought rogue core was a new mode to be added to DRG!!!

😢

[sand vale]

Originally it was, but they realized they could make it way better by removing it from the constraints of the base game

[next crater]

"The fact is, there is no reason to do this, technologically speaking. You can just bootstrap one system over another depending on the game mode."

In a perfect world there wouldn't be, but there actually is. DRG has evolved into a massive beast and all the systems are intertwined. As the game has grown, so has the scope, to the extent that adding something like new primary weapons is a gigantic task, as that means 4 weapons x 6-8 overclocks and 4 x 12 modifications + 4 x 17 frameworks, not to mention the paintjobs that has to fit. We've shaped the game as we've gone along, and that has allowed us to make a better game that aiming at a goal set years earlier. The cost has been technical debt, and interesting, but probably a less modular/optimal framework to work within.

While Rogue Core has DRG DNA, it's not DRG and not just a game mode. It's a new loop, with new systems, potentially a lot more classes and old and weapons that you pick up during a run that aren't class specific. It's not a deep dive with roguelike elements at all. It might not be for people who like DRG, and that's fine. It might appeal to people that doesn't like DRG, and that's fine too. Point it that it's related, but significantly far removed from the original concept, and it deserves it's own shell, and not being tagged onto something that is great on it's own. We're very happy with how DRG has turned out, and once we have Rogue Core in a place where we want it, we'll look at what the future for DRG holds.

[native crystal]

'While Rogue Core has DRG DNA, it's not DRG and not just a game mode. It's a new loop, with new systems, potentially a lot more classes and old and weapons that you pick up during a run that aren't class specific. It's not a deep dive with roguelike elements at all.'

Holy hell! Its like a new game

[balmy pilot]

Fair. And if the game is set prior to timeline of events in DRG then the cosmetics and gear would not exist, which nullifies the transferability argument/concern.

The way you described it makes sense.

I think the way that things were communicated in the “on the horizon” stream were problematic.

They made it sound like DRG was still being used as the base, and I assume it is the basis from which this grew and the base of the survivor systems are likely similarly the base from which RC’s systems of classes and upgrades and equipment were derived, if even loosely to transition from top down to FPS.

They indicated that the cave generator had been essentially retooled into a new mode, which, from a software engineering player’s perspective, sure does just sound like adding restrictions to the verticality and complexity of the cuts made to a cave system and then the rest is essentially biomes.

While not insignificant, it’s not like starting with whole cloth like what had to be done with DRG.

I’ve already indicated I’m a big supporter. I’ve been here since the beginning and watched when the perk systems got added and helped work through the base movement speed fiasco that made the game feel like molasses and lose its sense of flow. I don’t have a problem paying for quality and heart. Clearly. DRG felt like a complete game before it launched from Early Access.

So forgive me, as I go about my life, daily, seeing the perpetual erosion of value in our every day lives in every single thing we buy.

Because the way I see it, greed is ruining the entire world right now and I don’t want it to ruin GSG and DRG, because some of the best people I’ve met have been down in those caves and the game got me through a bad time.

Looking forward to seeing what you all do with this.

Thank you for your response.

[tall plume]

if the game is set prior to timeline of events in DRG then the cosmetics and gear would not exist, which nullifies the transferability argument/concern.

The game is set to happen at the same time as DRG events. S5 was the introduction for Rogue Core.

They made it sound like DRG was still being used as the base, and I assume it is the basis from which this grew and the base of the survivor systems are likely similarly the base from which RC’s systems of classes and upgrades and equipment were derived, if even loosely to transition from top down to FPS.

It is used as a base when it comes down to its skeleton and basic gameplay feel, but that and the art and setting is pretty much all they share.
Survivor is made by an entirely different studio, in an entirely different genre, while DRG itself was already using roguelite elements for its gameplay.

I’ve already indicated I’m a big supporter. I’ve been here since the beginning and watched when the perk systems got added and helped work through the base movement speed fiasco that made the game feel like molasses and lose its sense of flow. I don’t have a problem paying for quality and heart. Clearly. DRG felt like a complete game before it launched from Early Access.

then I think you can see how much Rogue Core can and will evolve into it its own thing over time, given what we've seen right now is just pre-alpha stuff and the game isn't event yet in its infancy.

Because the way I see it, greed is ruining the entire world right now and I don’t want it to ruin GSG and DRG, because some of the best people I’ve met have been down in those caves and the game got me through a bad time.

I personally don't see where the concern comes from. If GSG had any attention to be greedy, they could have done so already with DRG and its seasonal and season pass system - yet they didn't. They've given us no reason to worry about that and I think that deserves a little trust from our part.

[balmy pilot]

The game is set to happen at the same time as DRG events. S5 was the introduction for Rogue Core.

Thanks for clarifying. I misread what MD said, and I appreciate you pointing that out. I haven’t had the chance to play this season yet, but it’s good to know how it ties into Rogue Core.

Survivor is made by an entirely different studio, in an entirely different genre, while DRG itself was already using roguelite elements for its gameplay.

That may be true but they’re both under the umbrella of GSG publishing and so are probably very aware of the various approaches the other studios are taking or considering and why they did what they did. It’s still not from whole cloth, but maybe survivor itself used roguelite elements from DRG, I don’t know.

then I think you can see how much Rogue Core can and will evolve into it its own thing over time, given what we've seen right now is just pre-alpha stuff and the game isn't event yet in its infancy.

I don’t know about you, but I’m fresh out of hope to give to the industry as a whole right now. I’m not doing pre-orders or hopping on anymore hype trains or waiting with bated breath. I’m just trying to reasonable expectations. Do I want it to be awesome? Yeah I do, but the tone of the first response I got to my concerns—dismissive, condescending, and frustrated—didn’t set a great precedent. I get it, I’m late to the chat, but these concerns haven’t been fully addressed. I care about the game and if that message that is apparently so obvious never reached me. That is a problem.

[balmy pilot]

I personally don't see where the concern comes from. If GSG had any attention to be greedy, they could have done so already with DRG and its seasonal and season pass system - yet they didn't. They've given us no reason to worry about that and I think that deserves a little trust from our part.

The same has been said about countless developers before they fully embraced capitalistic “ensh*ttification.” All I’m saying is that I’m getting those vibes now, and I don’t like it. You don’t have to agree, but GSG should know how this feels to some long-time supporters. That’s why I’m voicing it.

[tall plume]

That may be true but they’re both under the umbrella of GSG publishing and so are probably very aware of the various approaches the other studios are taking or considering and why they did what they did. It’s still not from whole cloth, but maybe survivor itself used roguelite elements from DRG, I don’t know.

"Bullet heaven" or "survivor games" (or whatever you feel like calling them) are roguelites games as well, to an extent. But to be fair, the framework of roguelite games is pretty broad and a lot of games kinda fall within this margin without sticking to it entirely.
Among the common mechanics they share:

• Procedurally generated environment
• Meta-upgrades
• Run-based game cycle, where you start a run and die/win just to repeat it again
• RNG elements within a run, which can take various aspects.
• Usually not story-driven or very little so

You can see DRG hit a few of those marks already but so do a lot of other games. And some roguelites themselves take steps away from it (like Roboquest, despite it being a roguelite through and through).
You can expect Rogue Core to lean into all of those elements much more than DRG does.

I don’t know about you, but I’m fresh out of hope to give to the industry as a whole right now. I’m not doing pre-orders or hopping on anymore hype trains or waiting with bated breath. I’m just trying to reasonable expectations. Do I want it to be awesome? Yeah I do, but the tone of the first response I got to my concerns—dismissive, condescending, and frustrated—didn’t set a great precedent. I get it, I’m late to the chat, but these concerns haven’t been fully addressed. I care about the game and if that message that is apparently so obvious never reached me. That is a problem.

I'm in the same train but I just don't get the doom-posting when it comes to studios who have been doing good work and upholding their values even when they could have trashed them given the opportunity but chose not to.
Yeah, the industry is getting shittier but isn't that the reason we should hold dear what isn't currently shitty ?

My answer is my own. I do not work for GSG and I do not represent them past the "police" job I'm doing. Yeah I've been a bit rude in my answer but I've also had to deal with uninformed people posting this same thing weeks after weeks and it just gets tiring when the answers are literally one search on reddit/steam/pinned message away. So I just jumped to the usual stuff I see here and there.

[coarse topaz]

I just don't see the appeal of generalizing every studio as being one, greedy entity.
If a solo independent game deve is able to be non-greedy, then it must be assumed that a group of developers are also able to be non-greedy, considering that it is also possible for a group of game developers to be working together because they are passionate about their work, rather than overwhelming desire for profits. I think that if a single example for this case is true, then it is possible that GSG can work in this way and the gloom is unwarranted.

I think you wouldn't be attracted to drg or rogue core either if you truly believed it to be consumed by corporate greed

I also hope it turns out to be a good game, like it seems to be, rather than an expensive rehash of gameplay that has already been done, but I think that everyone here is hoping that.

[broken flame]

oOOoo, some back and forth to read while I smugly sip on my ice water

[brave oriole]

Lol, same

[broken flame]

Well, a Beltalowda having distrust for companies from the home planet is nothing new. (If ya know ya know)

But I'm glad it was peacefully resolved

[tall plume]

And nothing of value was lost.

If you're going to leave on a tantrum because a moderator tell you to stop bringing up politics and delete the related messages after you broke the rules, might as well not have wasted your time getting in the discord in the first place.

[broken flame]

Lol, I saw 4 pings for this chat, and I'll never know what they were

[brisk mantle]

I assume it's a deal with the bigger threat then kill each other sorta thing

[coarse topaz]

maybe the rivals have better stealth technology

[broken flame]

Glyphid Swarmer and Shredder wearing a trenchcoat and a hat, hiding behind the corner, Shredder nudges a briefcase to the Swarmer, Swarmer opens it, it's full of credits (hexagon cookies probably), Swarmer nods to the Shredder and takes the briefcase, they both take the trenchcoat and hat off and go attack the Dwarves, Scout already died to fall damage. 3 Dwarves left...
*Fin*

[brisk mantle]

Drg the movie coming to theaters soon

[coarse topaz]

you were replied to by that one guy a few times. I don't think he said anything that he hadn't said in a previous message

all the messages were deleted because of politics

[broken flame]

Something something garbage opinion evil corpos, down with the man Johnny Silverhand style.

[coarse topaz]

he stopped talking about drg and just started talking about greed and the nature of man

[brisk mantle]

We play this game to escape from politics

[brisk mantle]

Drank too many smart stouts

[tiny beacon]

wasn't he talking about a tv show

[coarse topaz]

cocktail between pot o' gold and smart stout

makes you discuss the economy

[brisk mantle]

With a bit of leaf lovers by the elves

[coarse topaz]

it would be funny if they added cocktails that gave smart stout different dialogue

maybe in rogue core

[brisk mantle]

I'm looking forward to the beers in rogue core personally

[coarse topaz]

yeah, maybe we'll get some new stuff

steroid stout

makes your gym gains 2x

instead of passing out when you drink too many, you simply die

[tall plume]

btw

don't know if anybody saw the new screenshots on the store page

[coarse topaz]

i hadn't seen them before, but i just noticed the ones where they can choose a movement option

and one with pipelines

i wonder how they will implement pipes

[brisk mantle]

THERES NEW SCREENSHOTS

[brisk mantle]

The pipes there don't look very rideable

[median sleet]

I'll feed all the Rogue Core footage we have into an AI and have it recreate Rogue Core without love and passion

[coarse topaz]

thank goodness for ai

we'll finally get to see what rogue core would look like if the devs were actually just bosco drones

[tiny beacon]

Bosco has more passion than a generative system like that

[hollow bear]

Can't wait to try out placeholder

[coarse topaz]

error cube: the video game

oh yeah, you are a playtester

so you actually get to try it

epic

[little sail]

guys, do you think that this game will have actual melee or do you think it'll just be the pickaxe and that onesuit ability?

[golden topaz]

Hmmm it's not a bad idea

[tall plume]

the latter

[elfin ice]

Now, do you think the game will have ladders?

[coarse topaz]

confirmed in the trailer

[elfin ice]

yay

[coarse topaz]

this game is approved by the ladder authority

[native monolith]

I would like to hope there is going to be a few melee weapons

[timid veldt]

We just established there would be ladders

[native monolith]

Can’t wait to uh… swing it at core spawn?

[timid veldt]

Damn right

[little sail]

same, like in CoD where you have a dedicated melee but it takes one of your gun slots.

[coarse topaz]

we also know that there will be drills in this game, which is sort of like a melee weapon. I wonder if you could upgrade it to be strong

[broken flame]

MAYBE even a shovel

[coarse topaz]

lol, it would be funny if you could find random weapons like shovels or debris and upgrade it

stuff that is fully unrelated to the weapon cache that you could access, but has some upgrades that are on-par with the other weapons

maybe smth like a hydro-cannon, modified oil collection laser, or a broken piece of one of those big mining machines

also possibly a gimmicky gun that security guards would have used

it could quickly shoot slowdown goop or smth that detains enemies

[tiny beacon]

I don't think security guards on Hoxxes would shoot anything short of live ammunition

[coarse topaz]

possibly

so they might have smth good

tbh if they added subata in this way, it would probably be a better option than letting it dilute the drop pool

just take it from a guard

[sand vale]

eh, issue is why would you ever take it if it was bad
vs
why would you ever NOT take it if it was good

[coarse topaz]

some of them could just be cool

like, a hydrocannon would be awesome

also, if they can be upgraded, it would definitely be on par with other stuff.
I think other games that do this will add a limit on how long you can use items like this, giving them some durability

but yeah, you make a good point

it could just result in an area of the game being decimated by 4 dwarves with op hydrocannons, right before they break

It could also work without the durability if it is a specific weapon that fulfils a niche really well, but is otherwise not very useful- in that case, it may result in a team hunting for it so their team member who is building for it can play their build

[pure vessel]

It's a big maybe. Most of our gameplay revolves around shooting.

[coarse topaz]

so, if someone were to try using that sword and the drills (to be somewhat of a melee build), would they be able to upgrade them to be competitive with other weapons? Will you guys go more in depth on how upgrades work at some point?

[pure vessel]

What do you mean competitive with othe rweapons?

[coarse topaz]

will they be able to be upgraded to be as usable as shooting weapons in fighting enemies/bosses?
Edit: i guess i mean, could someone reasonably play an entire run without using a gun

[fringe narwhal]

I think drills probably won't be. They're utility tools after all.

[pure vessel]

Well we don't have any traditional Melee weapons in the game.

Right now the Suit power is on par with other suit powers, while pickaxe and drills work the same as in Deep Rock.

However you ARE able to increase their damage overall and get certain effects through upgrades that can make them usable as weapons, however that relies heavily on the upgrades you recieve throughout a run.

[fringe narwhal]

A true Karl run, get so lucky with upgrades that your pickaxe kills everything

[pure vessel]

We haev ideas for mele upgrades, so there should be plenty chance for it to happen

[sand vale]

melee upgrade for a gun would go hard

bayonet for the m1k or something

although keybinding that might be weird

[hollow bear]

I hope we get three pickaxes taped together

[royal axle]

Add a drill and we've got a beyblade

[simple cloak]

New throwable just dropped

Pickaxe beyblades

[royal axle]

It plays the soundeffect of a pinball colliding with something each time it hits

[elfin ice]

Unstable oc

[paper laurel]

I have a feeling this game will be based around karl

[coarse topaz]

karl is actually the name of the core

but seemingly, the devs have denied the existence of karl in this channel, so I think they won't do anything with him

[paper laurel]

we'll see

considering they arent planning any seasons that are based around trying to find karl in drg they might try to make the objective of rogue core about karl

[fringe narwhal]

Karl dug deeper than anyone ever did

What if our objective is to reclaim Karl

[tall plume]

Karl lore is gonna stay the same as it it now: mysterious

it's an appealing mystery precisely because we don't know anything about it

[paper laurel]

in rogue core you are diving deeper right?

[forest rain]

All we know is that Molly the Drone carries our Minerals, and we shoot bugs corespawn in mine. The dwarven life in a nutshell.

[fringe narwhal]

Imagine if we ever find a cracked omorran shell with a pickaxe lodged into it and nothing else

[tall plume]

that'd be funny

[fringe narwhal]

A sort of "Karl was here" easter egg

[paper laurel]

what even are ommoran shells anyways

[tall plume]

magic sentient rock

[paper laurel]

is the core of the planet an ommoran shell but just big

[tall plume]

and apparently they're costing a lot of money and can make energy/weapons

that's about all we know

[paper laurel]

to me rogue core looked like it was less focused on the goofy mechanics of the game like in drg

rogue core looks more serious

the caves look scarier and more dangerous

which makes me believe the game might be more focused on the lore this time

[tall plume]

devs already said the lore will be approached in the same way as DRG

which is: you won't know much outside of bits and pieces here and there

[paper laurel]

sad

[tall plume]

personally, I see this as an absolute win

those aren't story driven games

[paper laurel]

yeah but that just leaves the lore to rot

people more interested in pinging mushrooms instead of looking at the lore perspective of the game

[tall plume]

no, it leaves up to the player's imagination

[raven wharf]

I don’t play DRG for the lore. I play it because it’s fun. If you want a game with deep lore then go play dark souls or something.

[still cedar]

the lore is fine

you know what you need to know and the mystery leaves a lot to the imagination

if they just bonked you in the head with the answer to every mystery in the games universe it would be a lot less interesting

i want to see the BEEG dreadnoughts though

[olive narwhal]

Wouldn't say the lore has been left to rot if it was rotten i doubt there would be as much interest getting more as their is now

[still cedar]

we will get new lore

they need to tell us like, who the fuck the reclaimers are, more about the corespawn, things of this nature

[olive narwhal]

Rogue cores lore will probably even explain some of the unanswered questions from drg

Or atleast expand on them

[median sleet]

I want all the video game lore, currently playing pong. Can anyone tell me when the lore gets more interesting?

[golden topaz]

Drg lore? There's a few I suppose, like what they use the alien eggs for

[broken flame]

The less lore I know, the less holes I can poke when they add stuff

[coarse topaz]

indeed

[wheat pewter]

leaving a lot to community interpretation is a really good disguise for lazy lore crafting imo

[coarse topaz]

it only gets crazy when the dwarves start singing frank sinatra and listening to classical music on the jukebox

before then, it somehow holds up

jk- lots of the dialogue opens up a bunch of weird loopholes and lore

[tall plume]

I'd rather have the devs focus on building up the game's mechanics than trying to cram in lore in a game that doesn't really care for it and don't get much out of it. So i see this as an absolute win.

[coarse topaz]

yeah, they kind of take the nintendo approach

[wheat pewter]

why not have... both? not like we couldn't?

you're talking as if it's one or the other, it's absolutely not

[tall plume]

Probably because the devs aren't really interested in it, simple as

[wheat pewter]

I have played tons of games that both have great gameplay and great lore... why do you think GSG wouldn't be capable of that too?

I am sick of "lol fill in the blanks yourself" I wanna see what they got, I think they could write up some crazy good stuff if they actually tried

[tall plume]

I don't know if they're capable of it or not, I'm just saying they don't seem to be interested in it.
If they ever want to develop it more, I'm up for it. But doesn't seem like they want to - at least so far.

Maybe things will change as they make RC.

[wheat pewter]

don't care about the holes, I just want to see them actually do something other than the usual two tiny bits of information and "fake it till you make it" the rest

[tall plume]

but at this point, it's a bit too late as many people have their own expectations and would just end up disappointed

so if they ever want to make something lore heavy, best to make it through another universe

[coarse topaz]

where would you have them add the lore, assuming they went with your idea?

[hollow bear]

We better hear more about Karl's cousin Carl

[wheat pewter]

I wouldn't want to be involved in any of that because I wanna see what they'd add by themselves

I want to see what they literally got without community influence, I know what I got, I made an entire series where I made-up a bunch of explanations for biome features

[coarse topaz]

i guess i'm just wondering how they could add lore in the gameplay loop. Not for rogue core, but in drg, maybe they could have lost packs drop a journal entry? rogue core could have some terminal that makes the lore more concrete? I don't really see how they could add lore to the game. at some point, it makes the game feel less "present"

the lore that does exist is seemingly very expansive, going back to when the dwarves were in some mountain brotherhood cult while they were on earth

i'm almost certain we'll get some more information about DRG as a company from rogue core

[wheat pewter]

during drg's development they planned to add a lore terminal, this later became the miner's manual

[brave oriole]

Lore doesn't have to be apart of the gameplay at all. The MM already gives a ton in the beastiary. Just more stuff like that is what I would personally prefer. Though tbh I don't think Lore for the sake of Lore is very interesting, it needs some sort of goal. Setting the table doesn't mean much if there's no food.

[carmine zenith]

Story mode or I riot

[hollow bear]

what if it was a game board like Mario Party

[forest rain]

I just want more flavor lore like we have for the beastiary and guns. We'll learn about the Aliens of Hoxxes eventually on our own.

All we know is they had to be sea dwelling and primarily lived in the Weald

[carmine zenith]

The flavor is beer, all of it.

[floral lake]

I want this to come out already.

[rich condor]

rouge core

[grizzled pelican]

Rock are coin stone are star

[coarse topaz]

mission control is bowser

[pure vessel]

No, the objective is to reclaim DRG facilities.

[olive hound]

Karl's facilities*

[pure vessel]

Karl can't be contained

[olive hound]

The truth is out there, so is Karl.

[hollow bear]

Sounds like Karl is going Rogue

[cobalt ridge]

can we join him

[fringe narwhal]

In 2025

[rich inlet]

Karl ignores extraction and doesnt afraid of anything

[young vessel]

will the reclaimers have fingernails

cuz dwarves dont have fingernails, just curious

[plain shoal]

Is the core of Hoxxes IV sentient

Considering we have many cases of sentient rocks

I mean like it's only two cases but that's still to specific

[plain shoal]

That would also explain the rouge core thing

[native monolith]

There is a decent amount of legitimacy to the theory that hoxxes is alive

I would say it’s a pretty solid theory right now

[tiny beacon]

you ever listened to the screams the meteors make? I don't think all of those sounds are the meteor itself

same might go for the eggs, which would I guess somewhat explain why they're growing flesh on the outside of them instead of the inside, if they're more like seeds

[atomic jacinth]

i doubt it

[dusky badger]

if this game is in UE5 it's over

[olive narwhal]

I mean its not an if anymore

It is

[dusky badger]

it's over then lmao

every single ue5 game i've seen has run like garbage

[olive narwhal]

Fairly smooth upgrade process outside of the stuff that broke

[dusky badger]

im also pretty sure ue5 forces taa which looks damn ugly

im all for this game but i hope they make it playable on regular systems lmao

[median sleet]

That's a developer issue AFAIK

[olive narwhal]

Satisfactory runs fine

If roboquest is ue5 its probably not it runs fine

[median sleet]

Dead by daylight, fortnite, Tekken 8. All UE5 games I haven't seen any performance compliants about

[median sleet]

Roboquest is UE4

[olive narwhal]

Still runs good

Either way i suspect rogue core will probably still have a higher minimum then dr

G

If only slightly

[median sleet]

Most likely yeah

I am prepared to lower my graphics settings

And once some mods exist I will install every mod that removes particle effects

[olive narwhal]

I willl continue to enjoy my particle having privileges

[median sleet]

I would if I had a pc that could run the game at at least 70+ fps with particles

[olive narwhal]

Drg does push that line though

Who knows maybe i will upgrade by the time of EA

[frigid path]

Dr G

[sand vale]

Fortnite shits itself every time it has to do anything particle related

Also the lobby and drop in are always horrible for everyone no matter what in my experience

[tiny beacon]

DRG also suffers whenever it has to do anything particle related that's what particles do

[harsh vessel]

Is this just drg 2 or sumn

[harsh vessel]

Idk i have maxed graphics and i get like 200 fps

[long breach]

no it's a whole different game, just in the same DRG universe. There's more info in the pinned comments of this chat if you haven't seen them yet

[harsh vessel]

From the trailer the gameplay looked basically the same idk

[mossy ruin]

the assets were reused in the trailer

but kinda yeah, you will still collect minerals, and you still shoot stuff

the purpose of collecting minerals and finding events is just getting roguelite upgrades now

the game is a rogelite if you didn't know

and yeah, check pinned

[median sleet]

basic gunplay and movement will be the same/ similar. The difference will mainly be the roguelite elements

[tall plume]

artstyle is also going to be the same (low poly style)

[verbal bobcat]

I´ve added at least 5 more polygons to Rogue Core! It will be wild!

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-2540388017337616893

jokes asides, love the RC art so far

Still hoping we get a DRG artbook one day 🥺

I just love looking at concept art

[frigid path]

Have you made 4K beard textures yet?

[elfin ice]

Lmao I'm imagining 4k beards, hair physics just crashing the game 😂

[frigid path]

70% of the game size is beard textures and beard physics code

[upbeat tangle]

95% of the bugs are caused by beard physics, speedrunners use beards to go out of bounds and glitch through objects, extreme lag known beard side effect, and bugs get stuck in beards

[elfin ice]

sign me the heck up :3

you run into your friend and you're suddenly flung 16,384 meters upward into the void and insta brick your game

(because of your teammate's beard flapping in the wind which has collision issue)

[upbeat tangle]

Oppressor attacks you, gets launched by the beard into a nemesis

[wintry cliff]

checking daily for a closed beta

🙏

[tall plume]

closed beta is coming in Q2 next year

[wintry cliff]

hadnt heard of any news yet

good to know

with a bit of luck I can get in like the closed beta for drg

but back then it was a lot easier, cuz the game was nearly unknown 🥲

[tall plume]

check the pinned messages for current roadmap and a link to all the recent news

[wintry cliff]

ah its gonna be a closed alpha

the game will release publicly in early access as beta then, I presume

[tall plume]

early access is coming in Q4 2025, yeah

[paper schooner]

I would say that early access is not quite the same as a traditional beta which should be content complete but needing some polish, optimization, and bug fixing.

With EA we are not content complete but instead try to have the content that is there be in good working order

[tiny beacon]

seeing the acronym 'EA' is a real jumpscare

[fringe narwhal]

[median sleet]

Don't you know? They partnered with EA. You'll have to pay $1.99 for every upgrade. Or you can reduce it to just 1$ if you subscribe to the monthly battle pass for $15/ month

[fringe narwhal]

[bright widget]

Guys, do we know the price of the new game? c:

[left tinsel]

6 decillian dollars

[native monolith]

Pins

Same ish price as drg iirc

[bright widget]

thx

[neat acorn]

Indie Game Pricing™️

roughly the same for most of them

bless

[pure vessel]

Pin this

[wheat pewter]

prob cheap during early pregnancy and 30€ when 1.0

[median sleet]

Is that how games get created?

[wheat pewter]

yep

[paper schooner]

🤣

[grizzled pelican]

You just saw the letter EA now you need to pay 2 dollars because get scared is a dlc

[worldly sundial]

I know this is ever so slightly off-topic but Electronic Arts can go eat a dick

[wary tiger]

pregancy?

[neat acorn]

how is videogame formed

[brisk mantle]

When a engine and a game dev love each other very much

[olive hound]

Would pay triple for an early access to the early access.

[muted sorrel]

If it follows drg, it should be around 15 dollars in its early access, and 30 dollars in it's 1.0

That's what someone told me

[bright widget]

Nice, thx

[native crystal]

first rogue, then core

[upbeat tangle]

Depends on the game

Some games are formed by devs buying assets in unreal engine.

[neat acorn]

adoption [?!]

[brisk mantle]

Or by devs not knowing how to model properly and making everything ten million polygons

[pure vessel]

Or are they pushing the boundaries of what is possible? No one knows.

[paper schooner]

Mind. Blown. 🤯

[brisk mantle]

perhaps if the model is a deciliion polygons then it will look good

[upbeat tangle]

One of the things I love about DRG is that it looks good even though it doesn’t have that many polygons

[ivory cobalt]

the lighting helps a lot

[forest rain]

Ok but real talk

They need to give us a drg version of the Bolter in Rogue Core.

[young vessel]

we need the drg version of the Dooty Launcher from Strike Force Heores 2

[versed snow]

Oh my god somebody still remembers that game

Marry me or something /j

[native crystal]

guys, for rogue core can we play as a baby dwarf in early access. then as the game gets updates and gets closer to 1.0 we grow up and become adults

and for the alpha we play as a fetus or something

[delicate flax]

Can we get more sandwiches? I really want to see a sandwich to counter the hexagifus skaler. I hate that boss. The phase 2 is actually bullshit. Who made it be able to pull you 30 decaillion miles away??

[verbal tusk]

Will a build focused on the class weapon be possible? Mostly because I wanna get some clips of mowing things down with Slasher and put Power of the Saber Blade over it lmao

[tall plume]

I'd hope so

would be a missed opportunity otherwise

[pure vessel]

Yes, there'll be two systems that do this: Level ups and artifacts, and the bio boosters.

The bio boosters are heavily focused on the class and ability, compared to the level ups and artifacts that are a bit more free-form.

However, not all classes have weapons specific to their class.

The Spotter (WIP) and Guardian don't have any weapons.

[median sleet]

Guardian shields in some way and Spotter highlights enemies?

[pure vessel]

That's a secret for now 🙂

but no, they don't do either of those things.

[median sleet]

I am good at keeping secrets, and everyone else in this chat promised they won't look

[upbeat tangle]

I have a question
Will there be multiple shotgun round types in rogue core?

[pure vessel]

There's a sawn-off shotgun and combat shotgun, so i guess? BUt there's no ammo types. Just different weapons.

[upbeat tangle]

Some kind of ability to load a special round that’s like a grenade or a slug or some other special round would be cool, maybe as an activated perk or something?

[pure vessel]

Not unlikely that could happen. Nothing in the game as of now though.

[fringe narwhal]

Oh that sounds fun

Maybe different elemental rounds

[pure vessel]

THat is very, very likely.

[fringe narwhal]

[pale grove]

Hopeful

[fringe narwhal]

Imagine the reclaimers just carrying a little freezer around and one of them has the idea to store the shotgun shells in there. Boom, cryo shells

[tiny beacon]

freezing a solid slug to make it explode into fragments on impact

[long breach]

You got the maggots in magma core that could do that 👀

[median sleet]

Is the game gonna be community translated again?

[royal axle]

I'd say nearly guaranteed, looking at drg

Minigun with flaming bullets, subata with acid bullets, stubby's whole existence,

I'd be confused if there weren't elemental bullets

[native monolith]

I think they were saying how it would be not weapon unique

For example, loading electric shots into the boomstick

Or acid into an assault rifle

[pure vessel]

No plans, but I think so

[pure vessel]

There still are weapon unique ones, such as flamethrower, etc. but the idea is that it can have added elemental effects.

[native monolith]

Sounds interesting; definitely will add to replayability with the amount of possible weapon combinations

[verbal tusk]

Taking from just DRG here, I'm imagining later on in a run you could start finding overclocks. Either someone could slot it into a weapon they have, or scrap it if no one wants it.

But you don't know what overclocks are gonna show up. Your bread and butter ai stability engine might not show up and you'll get something like burst fire instead.

I feel like how weapon maintenance and promotions work in DRG could also fit in that scenario: Encouraging players to branch out and get at least a little experience with most builds.

[native monolith]

Might want to put this in #rogue-core-suggestions

I’m hopeful they’ll do it like survivor, with certain upgrade combos allowing certain ocs into upgrade pools

[fallen delta]

Is everyone aware that they possibly revealed one of the new classes in the rogue core store page? Not sure if intentional but one of the screenshots show a guy playing as someone called 'spotter'. Dont know if its old news at this point i just noticed it recently myself.

[native monolith]

Ye we know of the spotter

[upbeat tangle]

We know there is a class called spotter, and a class called guardian

[native monolith]

Just not what it does exactly

It uh

Spots

[fallen delta]

mm

this class can see

[native monolith]

I now want the spotter to have an eye patch

I spy, with my little eye

[olive narwhal]

The crumlets

[fringe narwhal]

Eyepatch, crippling alcohol addiction. That's not the spotter, that's Demoman

[forest rain]

The Spotter pinging teammates be like

🫵
There's no hiding from me, Alien OR Dwarf!

Also I lowkey wanna see the Bug Trap 1.0 make a return. I know it kinda sucked in the beta but having a Trapper/Big Game Hunter dwarf in the reclaimers would be cool.

"Headhunter" would be what I call it.

Traps you, takes you out, takes your head as a trophy to boast to the other dwarves

[native monolith]

🫵
HAHA, CAUGHT YOU WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN!

[stray glacier]

What is rogue core egen about

Why is the core rogue

[native monolith]

Pins

[stray glacier]

Whats the diff between rogue and galactic

[native monolith]

They’re different games, rogue core is more of a roguelike, it is different enemies, new classes, new weapons, different upgrade systems, different story, new biomes, a focus on machinery in the caves, a new group of dwarves, and, hopefully, beer

[stray glacier]

Is it like drg endless mode?

[native monolith]

I’m also most likely forgetting a lot. I’d recommend watching the rogue core section on the recent live stream

[native monolith]

There is an end goal

[stray glacier]

Drg campaign mode?

[native monolith]

They said length of runs was up in the air but I believe the current is around deep dive length

[tiny beacon]

its missions are like missions in DRG, though longer and structured differently. Not a campaign

[native monolith]

Roguelike

[stray glacier]

Drg x binding of isaac

[native monolith]

End goal, but still the “new run” run formula

[native monolith]

Yeah, seemingly

I don’t actually think we know if there’s unlockables, do we?

Something like “beat the game with x class, unlock x upgrades”

Has there been any mention of something like that? I can’t think of anything

[stray glacier]

What about locatedabovetimetellingdevices

[native monolith]

Huh?

[tall plume]

read the pinned messages for info

[median sleet]

"we deliberately use the term Roguelite to signify that there will be a meta gameplay with permanent progression between missions."

It's vague but I assume there are based on this

[stray glacier]

im guessing like isaac x spelunky

[fringe narwhal]

Splunky!

[native monolith]

Image you’re just having a great day mining some exponite in rogue core and you just see “a terrible chill runs down your spine…” appear on screen

[stray glacier]

THE GHOST DREADNAUGHT

[native monolith]

Spider exploder tank ghost is real

[olive hound]

You can just think about it like this.
Roguelite: Meta progressions/unlocks or power-ups before runs. (Rogue Legacy comes to mind)
Roguelike: Having all the systems already in place and learning through play. (Spelunky is a good example)

I am not a purist by any means but that's my way of differentiate one from the other.

[fringe narwhal]

Splunky

Splunky good

But hard

[tall plume]

The main focus for this month has been getting the development build into a stable state, so we can pick right back up in January without having to root around with a bunch of bug fixes and stuff.

One big element of that has been recalibrating the entire particle effects system. Long story short, the particle effects system in Unreal 4 was causing some instability issues with DRG. We want to make sure that stuff doesn't carry into Rogue Core, which we're developing in Unreal 5. But that requires going in and manually fixing the entire system -- roughly 1,100 different particle effects and triggers that need tweaking and reassigning. Sometimes that process takes 30 seconds, sometimes it takes 15 minutes. The team's had to do it all by hand, one at a time.

It's like if you were building a house with 1,100 different light fixtures, but then you learned all 1,100 light bulbs were faulty, so you had to go change every single one of them before you can keep building your house.

The team's been having a ton of fun with it! 🙂

From the GSG newsletter

https://mcusercontent.com/910dfb53bf01a0687c45b3ad5/images/e2c323c5-446f-b725-918b-a62a1973bbb9.png

[willow flame]

[tall plume]

gotta keep sharing even the little bit of news we have

[olive narwhal]

I was thinking about mentioning it but thats way cleaner

[willow flame]

yes

[olive narwhal]

Particles will not murder performance as much big win

[tall plume]

indeed

🥳

[olive narwhal]

Hopefully it will put concerns about UE5 performance wise down a bit

[tall plume]

UE5 has gotten much better since its early days

[olive narwhal]

Thats also good gonna need for all that roguelite stuff with all the particles

[native monolith]

WAIT

THE GUY IN THE MIDDLE

ITS THE SHATTERCLAW

Mikel said that it wasn’t quadrupedal, it’s grounded, and one of them has got an aoe attack

That’s gotta be the shatterclaw slammer

[tall plume]

gotta love the one with the long ass tongue too

stingtail 2.0

[native monolith]

That guy looks terrifying too

New core spawn maybe, though also could just be art

I think we can lock that down as the shatterclaw design though there’s nothing else it could really be

[tall plume]

design may change too

[native monolith]

Yeah

It wasn’t in the development testing tab though so it’s probably going to look similar atleast

[hollow bear]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-is-even-that-gif-4110676814428319147

[mossy ruin]

no cryo particles impact fix mod needed in rogue core?
based

[fringe narwhal]

Lets gooo

[native monolith]

The shatterclaw slammer is real

[winged cave]

is this rogue going to be like drg 2 or totally different game ?

[raven wharf]

Why does no one bother to check pinned messages?

[tall plume]

check the pinned messages for details

[winged cave]

i have

[burnt wigeon]

,

[tall plume]

then you know the answer to your question

[winged cave]

kiiiindaa no but i guess we will see it once gameplays drop off

[tall plume]

Then you didn't read the pinned messages

[winged cave]

which one there is like 10 pages of stuff

its ok ty

[dire saffron]

Game freezes and you get an 8-bit box that says "What a horrible night to have a curse."

[paper schooner]

It's not the shatterclaw 😉

[tiny beacon]

it looks like a corespawn varient with its fake-face armor broken off

has the same spiky design elements and color scheme as the other corespawn in the picture

[paper schooner]

🙃

[native monolith]

It’s not??? Hmmmmmmmmm

[hollow bear]

it's actually the Clattershaw. so close.

[native monolith]

SHAW?

[fringe narwhal]

Ratterclaw

🐀

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-shaw-gif-21791302

[split vale]

Are the reclaimers shorter than the normal dwarves? because the corespawn crawlers seem larger than usual in rogue core

[tall plume]

they're dwarves just like the miners in DRG

the corespawn crawlers are just bigger

[carmine zenith]

Dwarf dwarves

Don't let pounce lie to you

Wake up sheeple

[split vale]

So they're putting child dwarves in the mines?

[proud kayak]

The children yearn for the mines

[split vale]

Minor miners

[neat acorn]

babby rock galactic

[brisk mantle]

Gotta teach em young

[native monolith]

The shorter a dwarf is, the more % of their blood is alcohol

Reclaimers of course, reach around 10% BAC

[native monolith]

Yeah, the more I look at it the more I could see it with a mask

So it’s probably a corespawn, maybe what the oppressor is the pretorian because it’s around the size of the clamorhead

[fresh jetty]

I mean they did say the game would have a darker tone.......

[raven wharf]

It's cheaper and their little hands can reach in places big hands can't

[wheat pewter]

new game title was announced today: deep rogue rock core galactic

[native monolith]

It’s actually pretty difficult to take three of these words and make a bad title

[wheat pewter]

nope

[paper schooner]

🫠

[wheat pewter]

nice subtle confirmation

was wondering when you guys were gonna reveal that

[icy nebula]

crogue ore

[grizzled pelican]

So we will be more exploit for the company?

I mean more missions less pay

[simple cloak]

If even one team member doesn’t make it back you get no pay 😭

[grizzled pelican]

Lmao if you fail the mission they take your credit now

[simple cloak]

Your minerals are now forfeit

[median sleet]

wdym 'make it back'?

[simple cloak]

🗿

[vocal jewel]

Core galactic deep: rock rogue

[grizzled pelican]

Rogue deep core galactic

[native monolith]

That is 4

[grizzled pelican]

nuh its 3.999 because is deep

[native monolith]

Because is deep?

[grizzled pelican]

yeh thats my driller neuron tell me

[lime steppe]

i wonder if the closed beta will have invites,, but idk if it would still count as a closed beta lol

[brave oriole]

We are going to get Rogue Core before Silksong 😭

[tiny beacon]

we got the TF2 comic series completed before Silksong and Rogue Core

[native monolith]

It’s suspiciously likely

I’d say it’s very likely that the beta happens before silksong, early access release i really hope not but it’s still feasible

[hollow palm]

today is a good day

[lofty heart]

I have been waiting so freaking long for silksong I am starting to stop believing

[sleek swallow]

why are we comparing something that's been in the waiting for around a year to things that have been in the waiting since 6 and 8 years ago

[tiny beacon]

running joke

[atomic jacinth]

no worries, we got a new challenger
gta 6

[verbal wolf]

Don't worry, Rogue Core is coming out well before Silksong does.

[native monolith]

Silksong is the actually the greatest thing for game devs, because anytime someone complains about a release date they are guaranteed to be hit with the “hasn’t been as long as silksong” and it works everytime

I don’t think I’ve heard major complaints about delays for a game in years

[tiny beacon]

to be fair the common and perfectly valid retort is that a years-late release is better than a featureless buggy mess that will be patched into a playable state over those same years

early access, like Rogue Core and DRG before it, is the ideal between the two, I think

[tall plume]

early access is nice but doesn't work for all kind of games - and all kind of devs

[tiny beacon]

for sure

[random laurel]

I will have 100%ed hollow knight before silk song comes out

[random laurel]

Try telling that to the suits

[worldly sundial]

The suits can suck it.

[grizzled pelican]

Still waiting for half life 3.0

[atomic jacinth]

nobody can beat that one i don't think, no

[grizzled pelican]

yeah xDD

[tropic dew]

Still waiting for red dead redemption 3 and bloodborne 2

[glossy heath]

for pc

[stray glacier]

Still waiting for tf3

Still waiting for left5dead

[grizzled pelican]

maybe on other dimension when gaben like the number 3

[stray glacier]

Still waiting for drg 2

[brisk mantle]

Maybe they could do something like a rougelike with it

[stray glacier]

Still waiting for drg survivor 2

Ok im done

Is rogue core more like original drg or like survivors

It would be cooler if its more like original drg

[stray glacier]

I just finally watched the trailer for rogue core, and it looks so unbelievably hype

I understand why tbey decided to pause development on drg

[stray glacier]

I hope in rogue core we can make bunkies

[crystal lark]

They said they want fully destructible terrain I think, so yes.

[fringe narwhal]

Bunky core

[nocturne minnow]

Still waiting for Goat Simulator 2

[delicate flax]

I doubt rogue core's crawlers are going to let bunkers slide simply because of how tanky and fast moving they are

[hollow palm]

my impression of level structure attm is that the team clustering together is a shot to the foot (much like most of drg)

Enemy design as per usual is top notch. What I’m still eager to see is their take on the *roguelike powerscale

I think a class with multiple support tools is more or less halfway there. But enemies need to also scale with the dwarves, rather than just be static and tougher than drg enemies while the player slowly gets stronger

If they want to let players scale in crazy ways or use powerful synergies then tbh I think swarm size and even more varied lategame enemy spawns won’t be enough.

Then again some of the enemy designs they’ve shown seem really aggressive. So honestly it’s still too early to tell

[verbal pine]

rog cor

[forest rain]

I hope a stalker equivalent makes a return. Or a tool that auto pings enemies within a certain distance, like that bio scanner from GTFO

[olive narwhal]

I do somewhat hope that this may make its way to drg at somepoint

[snow berry]

i wish that rouge core would have an immersive drop sequence, where you're actually in the pod or dropship instead of a 3rd person loading sequence with a computer voice saying "estimated time till landing 30 seconds" or something like that and flashing red light indicators when you're getting close to landing. Would be so awesome.

[sullen mica]

Does anyone know how much (or at least an estimate) rouge core is gonna cost?

[young vessel]

5 hours in the mines

[tall plume]

my guess is 15$ at EA

just a guess though

[sullen mica]

Alright, I was feeling like it was either gonna be 20 to 25 bucks, which either way, I'm happy to get it no matter how much its gonna cost

[elfin ice]

I don't know if the red square is a bot or not but I love it

As a joke they should add a rouge skin to the game

[raven wharf]

or people could learn to spell