rogue-core-chat

[tall plume]

[pure vessel]

haha oh shit I have it too lol

Maybe I*ll give it a go during Christmas vacay

[raven wharf]

It’s fun so far

[sly wolf]

Are there any criteria u have to meet to be able to play on closed alpha? Or its works more on the "first come, first served" rule?

[tall plume]

pretty sure they haven't decided yet

[pure vessel]

I don't know. I think it's to be decided. I'm not the one handling that, so I can't say.

[sly wolf]

Alr, thanks

[pure vessel]

I think we'll have more info when we're closer to having a closed alpha available

[deep cipher]

Criteria gon be to be a veteran drg player

To benefit the community

That would make sense

[tall plume]

no, it wouldn't

[deep cipher]

Wouldn't it ?

[tall plume]

not really

fresh eyes are as important as veterancy

[deep cipher]

So both

[tall plume]

yeah

[sleek swallow]

I don't know. I think it's to be decided. I'm not the one handling that, so I can't say.

[calm yoke]

Yeah, just noticed

[sleek swallow]

I was somehow just in time before you deleted that but yeah I figured you just noticed when I saw it suddenly disappear

[calm yoke]

Technically we'd all be fresh eyes, since nobody has played the title yet

[sleek swallow]

currently the devs are the only veterans of rogue core

[late ledge]

The core:

[long breach]

to rogue core yes. But to the DRG universe, no. And later on there would be people who'd find rogue core before they found DRG, so designing the game with those players in mind is important to make the onboarding experience for them enjoyable instead of expecting them to already know what we learnt from playing DRG

[deep cipher]

Maybe there won't even be glyphids in rogue core

A "made in abyss" kind of experience

Where you dive so deep that what you find there isn't even describable anymore

[west warren]

i think glyphids are gonna be in

[long breach]

i think they did say they want to explore more about the creepier side of things that could go into body horror

[tall plume]

yesn't, because while it's going to be a different game, it's still going to be close to DRG on many parts

[sly wolf]

Mutated corpse feeders the size of a drop pod?

[long breach]

I think by then you're just going to have to climb into it

[sly wolf]

GSG, whats up with corpse feeders lore? If they feed on corpses then why do they live in wood like beetle larvas? Is the tree a corpse? Or they feed the corpses, which implies there are zombies on Hoxxes? Is drg part of the TWD universe? Or we are talking about rockpox infected glyphids as corpses? If yes, are the corpse feeders a foreshadowing to rockpox seasons? Is Karl a corpse feeder?

[pearl tinsel]

The tree is a corpse

[shut tartan]

for some reason i feel like the corpses of rockpox glyphids would be way more unappetizing than just normal dead glyphids

[whole sand]

I couldn't find if this was answered or not. I remember something about there not being female/other dwarfs in drg because they weren't included from the beginning, and it then became too much work to add and would require sacrifice work on content and it was deemed low property vs that. I also remember there being a desire to not go the "easy route" and having the current dwarfs simply labeled as female/other.

Are they being added early on for rogue core?

[tall plume]

I'm not sure they know that themselves yet 😄
but the best moment to include it would be early on in RC, yeah

[deep cipher]

Sus

[quartz turret]

Am I crazy? I could have sworn I remember seeing some kind of DRG top-down thing at one point. I thought it was this. But now I think I may have been dreaming or hallucinating.

[median sleet]

https://discord.com/invite/drgs

[quartz turret]

AH! Right. That. That was only announced recently wasn't it?

[median sleet]

Survivor was announced about a year ago now

[quartz turret]

...To be fair to me, I only started playing DRG and following info about it in the past month or so.

[median sleet]

Nvm it will be a year in a few months

[median sleet]

DRG: S goes into early access in Q1 2024 and is developped by Funday.

DRG:RC goes into early access in November 2024 and is developped by GSG.

[delicate flax]

rogue core is so cool i love that one mechanic where it does that one thing in the game

[limpid elbow]

I love the part where the WIPrival_boss1 does that sick cutscene

[deep cipher]

I like trains

[pure vessel]

No idea.

[pure vessel]

What Ser Pounce said.

We're still in the process of creating the visual identity, so a lot can happen in the next few months. You'll be updated through our steam page, especially if we have anything cool to show off.

[median sleet]

Rogue Core will have visuals confirmed

[night drift]

Is Rogue Core going to be a rogue-likeor a rogue-lite?

[tall plume]

the latter

[night drift]

Nice!

[deep cipher]

Never understood the difference

[sly wolf]

Whats the diff? :<

[night drift]

Is there meta-progression, no or yes, respectively

[tall plume]

those aren't the only differences but yeah it's one of them

[sly wolf]

Meta progression? U mean like upgrading ur gear u take on every mission etc?

[calm yoke]

I feel like any interaction from you guys at GSG in this channel with us is the wrong move, tbh.

So long as you have nothing to share, I think it will just risk causing unnecessary hype in the community.

[tall plume]

People hyping themselves over nothing aren't the devs' fault

All relevant info we have are pinned in the channel, everything else is speculation

[calm yoke]

I still feel like a channel for discussion about the new game was opened too soon.

I don't see the need for segregation of the community on the main server when there is still nothing to talk about the new title.

[long breach]

half of this channel is just joking around from what ive seen tho

[sly wolf]

I enjoy this channel, its nice to have at least one active dev to talk to and ask questions about thier games. DRG chat, from what I seen, seems empty in this regard

[west warren]

people keep asking what rogue core is so they have stuff pinned here now

[sleek swallow]

nah this was a good move, we have the appropriate pins here to quickly inform anyone who asks about the game and it's done out of #drg-chat when someone wants to ask repetitive questions about the game

it's also nice to have the devs communicate, something people keep asking for

whether they have nothing yet or have something to inform and add, it's communication

which removes baseless assumptions when it comes to certain things

[pure vessel]

usually there's mostly discussions about mechanics and stuff, not direct questiosn to the devs

And also way more active, so this channel is a bit easier to get an overview over

[long breach]

Yeah i also like the chillness of this chat vs drg chat. Gotta enjoy it while it lasts tho 😔

[late ledge]

“How kill lootbug miniboss for money”

[calm yoke]

I feel like a closed channel faq for Rogue would have done the same job easily, but I see Anders point on how they still see this as feedback.

[celest viper]

Why expenite when we have unlimited mineral generating lootbug

[sly wolf]

What makes expenite worth it? Can you share what is it used for, or its too important in terms of RC lore?

[fierce solstice]

Bro the game is in its very early stage

how could they answer anything when there's nothing to present yet

[lime tapir]

so what is this game REALLY about? like, is it stated what kind of gameplay will it have? for example, will we still go on missions to "reclaim" the core, or will we have a stationary base, the "ramrod" ship, or some kind of underground safe zone? will it focus on survival?

[sleek swallow]

sounds like a pinned messages

that you should read

and perhaps even the store page

[lime tapir]

yeah i knew someone will just respond "read this"

[sleek swallow]

with consideration that it's in its super early stages of not having much

[delicate flax]

i think it's just elim combined with a morkite refining mission combined with lethal company

but thats what i think

[lime tapir]

i have huge hope for it

it looks suuuuuuper cool

[west warren]

drg lootbug mineral farm game when

[sly wolf]

U can do it already. Let em eat chunks of minerals and then kill em. They multiply eaten minerals by 1.5x when killed

[west warren]

but i get impatient and shoot them

[brave oriole]

On Litho you can use foamers to extract the minerals, letting you multiply them infinitely. This takes literally forever, but does work.

[west warren]

if i feed it dystrum will it keep spitting up more

or only gold/nitra

[deep cipher]

Only eats gold and nitra afaik

[west warren]

they eat dystrum

other minerals too but i don't remember

[blazing adder]

I'm wondering if we will get a whole new discord server for rogue core when it advances in development?

[charred mason]

that would be a possibility after RC has been released for 2 years I think

[brave oriole]

Most likely not, though they might finally revamp this discord lol

[pure vessel]

Guess

[long breach]

it's probably crunchy and tastes like almonds

and is used for all the upgrades and whatnot iirc

[sleek swallow]

probably because it's called expenite

it sounds pretty expensive

[deep cipher]

Expenite lmao it stands for experience points

[sly wolf]

It lets u EXPErience management greed of sending their workers into the core of the most dangerous planet in the galaxy just for some funny mineral?

[night drift]

It messes with the flow of time, letting non-cryo space travel be possible. Expiditing several other processes as well

[long breach]

Can I decorate an error helix with expenite then top it off with an error cube like a christmas tree? Or would that shred through local space-time continuum?

[night drift]

You can, but be very, very, very careful not to let two parts of the helix touch, or touch the same chunk of expenite

Deep Rock Galactic waives all responsibility for injuries, deaths, and/or universal collapses caused by employee carelessness in this regard

[simple cloak]

I sprinkle expenite on my glypihd slammer

[long breach]

Hope it doesnt react badly with the red sugar or alcohol

[late ledge]

Sodium and water

[long breach]

is that driller's special spicy drink?

it'd definitely going to burn on the way down

[simple cloak]

Someone's gotta try combining all the beers into one drink and taste test it

it'll do more than make you pass out but for science

[long breach]

i feel like just the combination of gut wrecker, mactera brew, and blackout stout is already a terrible idea

malt rockbearer and underhill deluxe would either cancel each other out or turn dwarf into playdough with all the wrong proportions

[fresh jetty]

Expenite is converted into a powder that when applied to an object/person causes them to become objectively improved in some way

this is why the company mines it and why it gives us new abilities

[long breach]

time to go snort some expenite. Maybe then I can finally grow a breain and get a real job

[late ledge]

Expenite infused cigarettes for the dwarves

[celest viper]

rogue core rogue core? Or core core rogue rogue

[oak obsidian]

rogue rogue core core

[median sleet]

Can't wait to get nuked by a random in roguecore

[sly wolf]

We need to get to the core of this!

(shit, Im late)

[random crystal]

that's such a rogue thing to say. why would you say that core

[shut tartan]

it can't actually do anything special at all, it's basically just tin+
but it's been recently discovered, is super rare, and drg is hyping it up a bunch for the investors

[obtuse heart]

I think the Rogue Core could have been made inside the DRG itself. Nothing prevents taking all the equipment before the start of the game.
It seems to me that the developers just want to increase their profits by making another game.

[vocal jewel]

i disagree

[fierce solstice]

It's as if the main goal of a company is to increase profits

crazy right ?

[raven wharf]

You figured out capitalism. See pinned messages.

[obtuse heart]

Oh yes, I'm sorry. It seemed to me that the developers of the DRG were different. Probably the end of successful initiatives is milking the fans

[fierce solstice]

No one will be forced to buy rogue & you still get S5 content in the end

What is there to complain about when the content you're looking for will be free in the game ?

[tall plume]

"Oh no, the devs are making a new title in the same universe. Obviously, it's all about milking the fans"

name checks out though

[late ledge]

p sure they planned it to originally be a paid dlc anyways

[tall plume]

yeah

this is talked about in the pinned messages

[late ledge]

thanks pins

[tall plume]

in one of the many things we pinned in there

#rogue-core-chat message

like this one

[faint aspen]

What would be neat is way later down the line when Expenite is sort of collected by the company enough maybe DRG employees would get access to special weapons made with the stuff in mind, kind of like old school CoDZ Wonder Weapons but themed for each class. Would be cool in my opinion but that's just my mind going with ideas.

Not like new class tools or anything, just 4 new weapons themed after expenite and its unique properties

[fierce solstice]

Now if error cubes could have a purpose that'd be nice

[faint aspen]

wdym? I've used it to live off of as rock candy for years now, nothing against company rules they just don't like it

[hollow wolf]

This is so funny

[grand acorn]

most high on crack take I've seen in a while

Even though I'm personally addicted to crack!

[burnt flume]

Its rogueing time

[celest viper]

\

yikes

[tawny karma]

bro forgot that people can make games because they have cool ideas

[hollow wolf]

don't you dare sell your game tho if you already have another one, that's milking

[random oriole]

It all comes down to how one values things. Just remember these are only video games; an interactive work of digital and functional art.

[inland palm]

i can’t believe gsg made a complete product, continued to give it updates after full release, and now wants to make another game??? Inconceivable

[pure vessel]

It started out that way actually. But breaking away from DRG allows for tech that doesn't mess with either, which saves a huge headache for us down the road.

Profits didn't have anything to do with. We dont have to worry about money, so we just make games we ourselves would want to play. It's a privileged position.

[raven wharf]

DRG RTS when

[tall plume]

then you should make it free, right ?

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

(obviously, that's a joke 😛 )

[tall plume]

DRG open world MMO when

[raven wharf]

I can cram in buzzwords too! GSG should make it an open world rogue lite looter shooter with crafting and survival systems using generative AI and crypto to give players a sense of independence.

[velvet marsh]

don't forget pride and accomplishment

[median sleet]

And NFT weapon skins so we can use them in DRG too! (They will never finish the NFT intergration)

[grand acorn]

drg minecraft mod in robxl

100% working 2016

[sinful meteor]

huh. looks like our core is going rogue after all

[earnest jay]

I am disappointed I understood what you said

[gritty matrix]

dont forget extraction shooter, thats a new trend

[manic sleet]

Happy christmas, decorate your beards with some ornaments

[night drift]

I mean, I would call DRG an extraction shooter already

[sly wolf]

Arent extraction shooters supposed to have the risk of losing equippment after dying tho?

[night drift]

I suppose, actually

[harsh lynx]

You risk losing xp, minerals and gold etc if you die. But it's just a portion rather than all of it

[tall plume]

perma death DRG

[raven wharf]

Die and your save file gets deleted

[charred mason]

will we have a feature make dwalves in RC become cyborgs? Because it look cool

[grand acorn]

Dwalverm will never be robotnic in nature.

I can confirm. Ask Serpounce if you wish to be sure.

[full cradle]

i like the part where the core said "it's rouging time" and rouged all over the place

[heady temple]

Wtf is a Dwalve

Idk I haven't paid any attention to Rogue Core

[sly wolf]

Dwalve is a Dwarf with additional valve

[past bone]

how to get image sharing rights here?

[tall plume]

pick a role in #welcome-and-rules and post in #drg-gallery (for DRG related stuff)

[forest rain]

I have a question will I need to buy Deep Rock Galactic: Rogue Core if I have the original game?

[delicate flax]

Yes

RC is a seperate game

connected to DRG

[simple cloak]

I vaguely remember seeing that they plan on making rogue core discounted for deep rock owners

[delicate flax]

like hollow knight silksong

[delicate flax]

oh yeah

[simple cloak]

very nice 👍

[calm yoke]

Checkmate anders, thank you for the new f2p game

[grand acorn]

tfw you have to buy the new game instead of having it for free for some reason: 😲

will I need to buy Grand Theft Auto: 6 if I have Grand Theft Auto: 5?

[calm yoke]

Jokes aside, I do wonder if it will some extraction mechanics, as in, you can abandon the current run at any time to save what you earned so far, depending on if there is a meta progress.

That said, a veto system definitely should be implemented as well though

Otherwise a single troll can abruptly end the run for everyone else.

[grand acorn]

personally hoping it has permadeath, maybe even permadeath irl but I think I might be asking for too much at that point

character kill if you fuck up too hard, would make the dwarves even more precious

[thin siren]

Hi. How to participate in the test at the start of the year? Is it possible?

[median sleet]

No news yet, keep an eye on this Discord

[lime tapir]

i wonder if this game is gonna be more like a survival where u build the base or like drg where u go on missions

id rather the first tbh

[fresh jetty]

It’s a rogue lite. Check pins

[pearl tinsel]

Neither

[lime tapir]

that's good i guess

[median sleet]

I wonder if this game is gonna be more like a RTS MMORPG or like pong

[raven wharf]

I vote pong with mtx

[deep cipher]

Pong with doretta's head

[coral jay]

can i play this game from steam with someone on microsoft? IF NO WHY NOT!?

[raven wharf]

no because it isn't available

[delicate flax]

depends on if the DRG devs find the time and actually want to add it

[vocal jewel]

If i already own Microsoft Paint do i get rouge core for free now that its released? Or do i still have to pay the monthly subscriptions?

[raven wharf]

You get complete access to the steam store page where you can purchase it once it's released.

[random crystal]

risk of rain cave style

[sleek swallow]

it only comes with microsoft paint+ subscriptions

[median sleet]

What about my fire insurance?

[celest viper]

You get minecraft bedrock edition

[grand acorn]

You get 5 grams of premium grade crack

can not guarantee that I won't accidentally sniff it all while I'm delivering though

[long breach]

You'll probably just hear about a delivery accident around your neighborhood for that

[carmine crane]

what's the difference between deep rock galactic and rouge core?

[raven wharf]

pinned messages

[carmine crane]

oh ok i saw that

still, where is avariable?

[raven wharf]

it's answered in pinned messages

[carmine crane]

ok let me search

ah so is still under development i see

that's why i didn't know about rouge core

cool

[sleek swallow]

pinned messages 2x combo

[wary tiger]

whats a rouge core again?

||closes thing i know is about a core gone rogue ||

[delicate flax]

rogu cor

[dark vault]

I heard you can get RC for free after downloading some RAM

The Paint version has a buggy file called system32, make sure to delete it before playing the game

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/roger-american-dad-no-noo-nooo-gif-24421030

[gusty yew]

drg battle royale when?

[fluid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/100-gif-24280754

[gusty yew]

my bad

[finite laurel]

Not sure how that’d work, neither game is made for pvp

[grand acorn]

deep royale galactic

I think it would work great with the drg systems. Definitely explains the "DRG_BATTLE_ROYALE_MODE.exe" file that I saw on one of the developers' computers yesterday

[sly wolf]

One of the devs is my grandpa, and he told me they are working with Epic Games to add Karl to Fortnite as a playable character

RnS emote will be added too! 😄

[simple cloak]

[tender pollen]

Wow! That's amazing!

[forest rain]

So like DRG but elves?

[long breach]

I smell leaflovers

[grand acorn]

drg except it's dwarves

[wise saffron]

What's a rouge core?

[somber pivot]

GDI i cant join the bloody union. why the heck is the bot so bad? you'd think by now they would have fixed it

[tawdry frigate]

This is the wrong channel to put this in.

But answering your question, it is not the bot's fault - we all have Union roles - but the game itself is having major issues knowing what Union you're in.

And that cannot ever be fixed without jumping through a few hoops of your own to get it to work properly.

[somber pivot]

what hoops do i have to jump through. and sorry for posting in the wrong channel. i stopped playing about a year ago. reinstalled because i saw the hoxxes astartes fan remake

[deep cipher]

Wdym what union you're in ?

[tawdry frigate]

When you try to view Union progress via any of the screens in the Space Rig, it'll act as like you haven't even joined the Discord server.

[deep cipher]

Yeah, right, but your phrasing made it seem like there are several different unions

[tawdry frigate]

You phrased yours a bit weirdly, too.

There are 3 unions to choose from.
( )

[deep cipher]

Didn't mean no offense ._. what did i phrase weirdly ?

Also what the h are those ?

[olive narwhal]

The differeng teams cave crawlers and stuff

[deep cipher]

What do they mean and how do you join one ? .___.

[brave oriole]

Its broken atm, but if it randomly chooses to work then you can join from an in game terminal. IIRC You need to link your discord and steam account to do so.

[deep cipher]

Huh, i'll try that

Thanks for the advice

[median sleet]

Read the pinned messages for all the info

[wary tiger]

A core that is red. If you're asking another about rogue core, check pins

[somber pivot]

alternatively, its a core that steals from the sonic core

[blissful spade]

I just saw the trailer to this game, is it like a spin-off drg?

[wary tiger]

Check pins

[blissful spade]

any updates on a gameplay trailer

[vernal plaza]

I think there was some early concept footage? Or is my brain making things up again?

[pine skiff]

If the rogue core touches you it will steal your X-men powers

[earnest jay]

So far it seems similar to gunfire reborn in concept

But with all the drg stuff

[raven wharf]

patience

[simple cloak]

we've got images but I don't remember any footage

[random oriole]

oooohhh...! I'm getting antsy for the Closed Alpha Launch.

[spring prawn]

Same here

[hollow wolf]

it's cancelled

[median sleet]

It's uncancelled

[hollow wolf]

thank god

[median sleet]

They had to add microtransactions to uncancel it

[hollow wolf]

fuck

[median sleet]

If you find a gun you have to pay 1-10 dollars to be able to equip it

[simple cloak]

me when you pay for every hour you're on the game

[frigid path]

Taking inspiration from the DLC Quest series I see

[mellow tartan]

Hello there.
Is there any page that allows me to see when rogue core goes into early access?

[tall plume]

yeah, the store page

[mellow tartan]

Guess will have to wait then am really looking forward to it

[harsh fable]

[heady temple]

Rouge core rouge core

[fossil totem]

what is rouge core new here btw??

[rocky dove]

Drg spinoff game, more details on the pinned messages

[lucid star]

[calm dust]

Is this a separate team or is new content for deep rock basically gonna stop to focus on this?

[old swift]

most of gsg is working on this atm, i believe a few devs are working on season 5 stuff

[median sleet]

All the info is in the pinned messages. They're going to switch every once in a while between focusing on either of the games

[south wraith]

you gotta apreccitate the discord mod who banned me for 15 days because of a taco bell sound

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-ban-lin-pov-anime-girl-tower-of-fantasy-gif-11519804876095546753

[raven wharf]

I mean you could just follow the rules, but what do I know?

[tall plume]

So, coming back from your 15 days timeout for posting random ear rapes in the fan-art channel, you think the best course of action is to post random BS about mods punishing you in the rogue core chat ?

I guess you could go for another 7 days since you don't seem to have understood the lesson.

[undone zephyr]

Hello, i just saw the teaser trailer, anyone knows when is this ROGUE CORE comming out ? 😄

[tall plume]

check the pinned messages

[undone zephyr]

how

[tall plume]

top right, click on the 📌 icon

[undone zephyr]

nice thank you

O_O i did not expect it to be this epic. what in the actual fuck, thats so hype

[rocky dove]

Mobile users in shambles

[undone zephyr]

too bad it isnt inside deep rock :/

[void plume]

finally done listening to the dev interview

shaping up to be an interesting game

read the Q&A too, glad the community made it loud and clear that we're all craving more DRG content

a bit disappointed that's not the direction they're going, but I understood it why well enough

excited for november. from my pov, it looks like they're building a brand new DRG but with experience

[livid plaza]

Agreed honestly, it feels like they're making a sequel type game, but using their drg experience to make it better how they want it

[tall plume]

It's not really a new DRG as it's not even gonna be the same genre.

The experience will definitely help though as it's basically being built upon the same basics and in the same engine.

[viral moon]

So I keep hearing people say there’s not going to be a season 5 because ghost ship is working on rogue core but now I’m coming across more videos talking about a season 5 and what it would be. Is there gonna be a season 5 or not?

[raven wharf]

Pinned messages

[void plume]

developer man guy suggested season 5 would be no earlier than june, in the Q&A

the intention is to tie season 5 with rogue core. in DRG, it'd be a prologue

[median sleet]

There hasn't been any Rogue Core news since last year SMH Lazy devs...

[delicate flax]

i can't believe these devs are so lazy

[sly wolf]

It was a year without any drg patches or even seasonal events, Im dissapointed with u devs smh

[lapis garnet]

huh?

[raven wharf]

whoosh

[celest viper]

since rogue core is... core, I assume the rocks are more compressed than what we get in drg
so as long it's a mining game, I hope there are some more upgrades for pickaxe

[lapis garnet]

What?

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/you-joke-dog-miss-lazy-gif-16172475

[lapis garnet]

Thanks for explaining, Very normal of you.

[livid haven]

how exactly can I imagine rogue core

as in

will it have a story

or simply coop like drg

[raven wharf]

roger_whistle_no.gif

Speaking of which, I need to make another gif of that character for variety.

[autumn badger]

😧warning: el scary moment

[tawdry frigate]

besides the trailer and a few developer comments, we have little to no other info about Rogue Core as of now.

It's still based around co-op but that's tradition, besides DRG Survivor. But that's a whole other thing.

[raven wharf]

ooh time to convince Mike to add lasers to the sand sharks

[simple cloak]

Give them mounted laser guns

[normal perch]

I wonder how signing up for the closed alpha will work? will drg playtime be a factor?

[raven wharf]

it'll probably be random

[high sedge]

All right devs it's Q1 2024 please let me join the closed alpha

[old swift]

so true

[kindred cedar]

"rogue core" ...so did the core somehow up and leave the planet? lol

[verbal wolf]

The core left. Now there is just a hole.

[sly wolf]

And as the nature hates the void, something else took its place...

[quartz mulch]

im a greenbeard to drg im 3 days in and i wanted to know if rouge core will replace drg?

[olive narwhal]

no and pins go into more deets

[quartz mulch]

ty ty

[olive narwhal]

outside of the pins little in known atm

[pure vessel]

No, it's just a spinoff

[quartz mulch]

thank you for your time

[drowsy junco]

this came out?

[wary tiger]

No, check pins

[drowsy junco]

😔 blowing my dwarf brains out in drg

[brazen estuary]

Im really excited for rogue core

Wonder what interesting story it will have

[tall plume]

not much probably

just like DRG

leaving most of it to the player's imagination

[brazen estuary]

Nice

Hyped for the game whenever it releases

[tall plume]

same

[grand acorn]

played rogue core was kinda fire 👍 can't wait for next updates

[shrewd turret]

wait you played RC?

how

[tardy pine]

early access?

[icy vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-internet-tell-lies-buster-lie-gif-4986649

[celest viper]

hmm

I like to drink

[fresh jetty]

I played rogue core it was so cool when karl showed up and said "it's rocking stone time!" and then rogue cored all over the place

[tender pollen]

I liked the dating sim aspects of Rogue Core.

[grand acorn]

drg fish ai

[median sleet]

They should remove the 'Karl flossing scene' before it releases into early acces IMO

[frigid path]

I really enjoyed the Broom Closet ending, it was my favourite

[meager jungle]

i cant belive they retconned the entire lootbug sidestory though???? karl being a lootbug was the biggest twist of the century

[copper sparrow]

For me the part where Karl turns out to be mission controls father was just too wild. 😩

[deep cipher]

rogue core was my favorite clicker game

[dark vault]

I cried when Scientist managed to send the blueprints of Hoxxes through Bosco on the oil rig before getting mauled by that bulk dreadnought. Karl would've had to take another minute to slap the core with the Morbidly Obese Boy without him.

[grand acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[echo depot]

hey hey, i know it's quite early in q1 of this year but when rogue core alpha will be going live, will there be any notification of it and some info on how to join it?

[high sedge]

SAME

[sleek swallow]

presumably yes, it's not getting shadow dropped

so long as you're here in the discord it'll probably get an @ everyone

of which you'll be notified from

[forest rain]

well known content creators and modders will get alpha first afaik

[tall plume]

there's absolutely no basis for that, we're still in the dark

[vocal jewel]

devs will get alpha first

[olive narwhal]

the devs already got they must know the right people

[radiant pumice]

what's this all about

funny dwarf game 1.5?

[median sleet]

check pins

[native monolith]

drg roguelike

[wary tiger]

a redlike?!

[native monolith]

redlike?

[wary tiger]

yes

you said it was a rougelike

[native monolith]

oh

yeah mb

[wary tiger]

henceforth redlike

[native monolith]

i mean that still wouldnt be pronounced redlike

[radiant pumice]

red loke

[native monolith]

i would make the joke that dwarves would make it basically a rednecklike but roguecore is gonna have "more professional" dwarves xD

[wary tiger]

never heard of a professional dwarf, is that a new mythical being?

[forest rain]

I don't think it exists, otherwise one day some elf boy could wake up and tell his parents he wants to be a 'professional dwarf'

[native monolith]

So the “reclaimers” we play as in rogue core are like drgs spec ops

And they’re more serious

[pearl flame]

a blacksmith

[wary tiger]

That's a regular dwarf

Now what is a professional one?

[kindred cedar]

One who specializes more than just general metalworking? Like... a hammersmith or armorsmith?

[native monolith]

Mission Control, but he’s not confirmed to be a dwarf

[knotty epoch]

Non-alcoholic dwarf

I bet professional dwarves mean hill dwarves instead of mountain dwarves

[sharp helm]

So, what's it gonna take to get in on the alpha?

[void plume]

until march 31st we can only speculate

[sleek swallow]

100 dollars to my paypal

[sharp helm]

If you were an admin I might've considered it

It'd be CAD though

Pretty sure the developers would want bribes in DKK too

[sleek swallow]

but, but, my totally real admin not fake and authentic admin bin chicken role

[sharp helm]

If only I knew what that was brother

[sleek swallow]

it means I'm admin and you should paypal me $100
is role for people who are active, kind and helpful
oh and ones that won't lie to you and scan you out of a hundred dollars (maybe)

[night drift]

Deal, but in Zimbabwean

[warm jewel]

He looks like just a dude

[native monolith]

i mean we actually have yet to have humans confirmed to exist right

its just elves and dwarves being confirmed

[lime tapir]

no

theres a driller line "were i mistaken for a human"

when u descend

[native monolith]

oh true

nice catch i forgot about that

[strange falcon]

God I hope some version of my progress in DRG carries over.

[cedar kelp]

different dwarves entirely

[tall plume]

unlikely

[fresh jetty]

I hope for the opposite I hope this game actively takes away my DRG progress

the further you go in RC the more you lose in DRG

[native monolith]

The most I’m hoping for is a little nod between the games with cosmetics

Like, mining hat “a gift from the mining branch” and then something from rogue core to drg, can’t make a guess because the dwarves there don’t have a cosmetic personality yet

I don’t want game effecting stuff transferring though

[median sleet]

In my headcannon the DRG dwarves and the Rogue Core dwarves aren't very friendly towards eachother

The DRG dwarves dislike the RC dwarves because 'If management would get us some proper equipment we could solve our own problems, instead of sending in these buffoons'.

[forest rain]

management is full of dunderheads

[pure vessel]

I don't think so either.

[pure vessel]

You'd probably need to stay updated on our Rogue Core steam page and discord channel and sign up whenever possible.

We haven't yet decided on how the alpha will be handled, but we'll keep you all informed whenever we know ourselves.

[grand acorn]

I accept your offer of the alpha

[sharp helm]

Karl's beard, I didn't expect a dev to answer!

Can I ask, when one of the rimworld expansions dropped I remember seeing one of the devs played for 12 hours

Was that you?

Because that, my brother, is gaming

[pure vessel]

No I haven't played Rimworld before.

[night drift]

Congratulations, you just delayed S5 by 6 months......

[verbal pine]

I guess Anders is the only Dev at gsg now

I would personally love to see customisation options for armours and weapons and stuff, like being able to put bumperstickers on your helmets, armour and guns, add a little more Dwarven charm

[hollow bear]

Gun charms, heard

[verbal pine]

Nonono

Waitwaitwaiwait

[hollow bear]

Just imagine, a little dangly loot bug on your weapons like COD

[verbal pine]

And it costs 500 shinydingle coins that you pay 60 dollars each for

[hollow bear]

Maybe Aaron can call them Sukondiz coins

[dusk light]

Is there any chance there will be melee weapons in rogue core?

[hollow bear]

I'm betting we have pickaxes still, at the very least

[dusk light]

That's for sure, but I was hoping for full-on weapon

[hollow bear]

Maybe some brass knuckles

[dusk light]

That would be badass. Feeding glyphids some knuckle sandwiches

Is it even confirmed that there will be glyphids in the core?

[hollow bear]

All we know so far is posted in the pins for this channel

Some good stuff in there

[dusk light]

Will check it out, thanks

[native monolith]

you start the game with a pickaxe and the pistol i believe

[acoustic cipher]

I’d love that

[grand acorn]

you start the game with a crowbar and an atomic bomb

confirmed

[strange falcon]

Will RC be bigger than DRG ?

[tall plume]

bigger in what sense ?

[strange falcon]

I guess in all aspects.

[tall plume]

likely not, tbh

Content wise, it will lack behind DRG since it's the newer game but both will get content still.
And from this point on, it's likely to be taking even less space than DRG.

And the overall scale of the story seems to be focusing on an even smaller part of the whole Hoxxes thing going on.

[strange falcon]

Hmmm

Interesting

Ty

[olive narwhal]

Different genre sorta its a roguelite

[strange falcon]

My biggest concern is if its not succesful enough will they pull resources off drg. Or worse, quietely sunset drg in order to try and make RC work.

[tall plume]

You should read the pinned messages. But let me ease your worries :

• If DRG worked (and it did), it's unlikely Rogue Core won't succeed considering it's basing itself a lot on DRG (it will be a different game of course, but it's still taking a lot from DRG).

• The only resources they're really short on is time, and they're already splitting it between Rogue Core and DRG. So it can't get worse. The worst that can happen is Rogue Core being less successful and getting less attention in the long run.

• DRG is already nearing the end of its "lifetime", so to speak : the game has been past 1.0 for 3 (soon to be 4) years. And the day it won't receive anymore content will happen eventually. Thankfully, due to its peer-to-peer nature, it will likely never fully die. And as long as the developers can afford it, it will be updated (though at a slower pace). Realistically, I feel like it might end up like TF2, in a sort of limbo for years. But we're not there yet. Maybe give it 5 or more years, give or take.

[strange falcon]

@tall plume
Thanks yeah This was a lazy question but I appreciate the work in answering.
I'm enjoying DRG so much I immediately hoped that there was a DRG 2 around the corner. So when I heard about a "spinoff" I was concerned.
Still am to be honest. But I'll go back and check the pinned messages (once I remember how)

I'd love to have been in the meeting when the choice to make a spin off rather than a sequel was made. If for no other reason to see the math behind the expected finances.

[tall plume]

assuming you're not on mobile : 📌 icon in the top right

Considering DRG is going nowhere for more years, there was no reason to kill it for a sequel when they could go for a different genre with a spin-off

[grand acorn]

just buy more time 🤷‍♂️

[strange falcon]

Aight,

I read all the info from the pinned sources. Time to yell into the void.

[opaque pond]

Is it a mobile game? 💀

[void plume]

yes. here's the app store link https://store.steampowered.com/app/2605790/Deep_Rock_Galactic_Rogue_Core/

[lost sun]

i wouldnt mind if they did risk of rain 2 style dlc, as long as there is updates

[raven wharf]

If by mobile you mean I can install it on my laptop or win/linux based handheld then yes.

[sharp ether]

The approaching closed alpha hype

[static roost]

will rogue core have crossplay?

asking for a friend

[grand acorn]

yes before you ask, rogue core will have cockroach AI, and yes it will avoid the light just like in half life

[forest rain]

now thats just a wack theory if ive ever heard one, drg has only really lately blown up as big as it is, seems to be getting more popular atm and widespread and not less, the game is far from dying, the pre 1.0 community was a lot smaller i felt like, and the main reasons tf2 is dying besides it being literally ancient and a community way bigger than our own in drg is because 1. bots ruining game 2. valve never ever updating anything ever unless held at gunpoint, saxton hale was nice tho

I love roguelike fr cant wait to eat this game up

[median sleet]

Too early too know, as a console version hasn't even been announced

[tall plume]

no

[proven marten]

rouge

[brazen estuary]

I love it when the core gets rogue

[tall plume]

console version is more than likely at some point. Crossplay isn't because i doubt they're going to hire 12 new people just to maintain servers and network. 😛

[median sleet]

I can do it solo

Crossplay == True;

[native monolith]

For core and rogue!

[static roost]

Ty

[pure vessel]

We talked about decals before, so it might be possible.

[pure vessel]

Most likely not, even though it would be fantastic.

[static roost]

true

hope one day we get it

[opaque oak]

[tall plume]

unlikely as well

[static roost]

I know, copium

[median sleet]

I've got a friend who I used to play DRG with who switched to console, I understand your pain

[pure vessel]

Me too

[pure vessel]

We talked about some cross save stuff, but even that can be ton of work and maintenance. And potentially lead to issues since console updates get delayed compared to steam.

So no matter how you look at it any form of cross-whatever is a can of worms.

[median sleet]

Yeah, I understand. The truth just hurts sometimes 😔

[warped sphinx]

k know its a long shot but risk of rain 2 eclipse style alternate gamemode would be really nice

[west warren]

yeah thatd be cool

[frigid basin]

Rogue go weee

[wheat orchid]

I came here mainly looking for the lfg stuff in discord but found out the answer to why the game isn't cross platform play.. Its actually an interesting reason. I figured it was a code/financial decision. But the idea of MS/Sony/Steam having to agree to it...that was interesting to note. Do all 3 actually have to agree for every game that is going to be cross-play? This is an interesting dynamic. One that is interesting considering the whole Activision thing.

Game is really cool, btw...

[tawdry frigate]

Lacking cross-play always boils down to financial and technical limitations.

I personally find it as a bonus rather than a required feature for most games, so I'm not that bothered by it at all.

[wheat orchid]

The one thing I found interesting...it looks like it leads to less overall hacker ~~issues ~~ complaints(?) 🤷‍♂️

[charred mason]

All the rougelite games I have seen always begin at the same map, will Rogue Core go the same way ?

[long breach]

i mean, you kind of need a tutorial map and easier locations to start

oh i dont think we'll have the drg biomes though right? we're even deeper than magma core

cuz i was thinking drg starts you with a limited amount of biomes to let you learn how to play first, but idk how rogue core locations would go

i guess it might depend on dig site generation complexity? and you start with a few easier formations first?

[verbal pine]

So as the game designer this is the best question for you. What are you hoping to achieve with RC, are you gonna focus on customisation or variety when it comes to players? I think especially in the modern market players love using cosmetics as a form of self expression to put it simply.

[grand acorn]

I love using cosmetics as a form of obliterating bugs to death and beyond, in style

[daring hill]

cosmetics should be free and permenant

so that if you die in a mission, you dont lose the cosmetic, just your gun

also, this may be a really dumb idea, but what if all bugs were just a tiiiiny bit different

[rocky dove]

like if they were all bulks?

[daring hill]

like one has longer legs, so its faster, one has bigger teeth, so it hits harder

this one has greener skin, this one's skin is purple

introduce variety in bugs, not just different, static bugs

like their back patterns could be different

on slashers

and have super rare mutations, like slashers or guards

but its all from the same bug

so in DRG we have grunts.

they are all the same

like a bowl of bran flakes

but you introduce some mutations in the mix, with different limbs and armor, and you get a bowl of 6 different types of cereal

and in the radioactive exclusion zone, these random, unique bugs' mutations get turned to 11

like the pratorean is deep purple with armor like a oppressor, but has almost no jaw and super long legs

so, take my dumb idea and tell me your insight, i am going to get back to R&S-ing

[undone badge]

that

is

pretty

inter-

es-

-ting

[daring hill]

horray

[tall plume]

There are several issues with this.

First off, and assuming it's purely visual, is the visual noise.
By adding more and more details, especially in game such as DRG, you're making it more complicated for everyone to instantly recognize an enemy. It is important to be able to spot them clearly, because you know what they do and you know how to prioritize threats. By adding that extra visual noise, you make the whole process a lot more complicated, especially for less experienced people.

Second, if it's not visual and it actually changes their stats : on top of the visual noise, you also have to memorize and remember everything, making the game that much more complex to learn.

[daring hill]

im just meaning that if you have a grunt, that grunt can come in many different flavors

these changes are very slight, and wont change gameplay (hopefully) too much

[tall plume]

Lastly : it's just a ton of work.

[daring hill]

i know

[last pond]

I think that just having a variety of bugs would achieve enemy variety

like in drg now

[tall plume]

Rogue Core is gonna have the same pool of enemies as DRG, with extra. Enemy variety should be fine.

[daring hill]

ye

it would make the roguelike aspect of the game even more tho

just having a huge amount of randomness

[last pond]

genuine question, in what way does that make it more roguelike?

I am a bit confused there

[daring hill]

randomness

every mission is different

every bug would be different too

[last pond]

is just having a different enemy pool not random?

like the enemies would still be different

I am just a bit confused on why specifically the randomness of the bug shapes and attributes

[daring hill]

idk, it was just a random idea that came out of my head

[tall plume]

DRG already does that (and, in fact, already take inspiration from a lot of roguelike elements, rogue core is just gonna push it further. There's a reason the idea started as a new game mode for DRG )

[daring hill]

and thought it would be a cool implementation

[last pond]

I see

[daring hill]

think of it as a good character creator

full of sliders and options

[last pond]

In most well known roguelikes the enemies themselves stay relatively the same

[daring hill]

but these sliders change what the character can and cannot do

[last pond]

I think I get what you're saying now

[daring hill]

good

[tall plume]

Yeah, so you're able to identify them instantly

[daring hill]

imean, it would still be that, just with a little variety

a grunt would still be a grunt

but grunt 1 moves 5% faster and grunt 2 hits a little harder

[last pond]

I think that having many variations of the same bug would have less of an impact than you're thinking

[tall plume]

and then you have 30 grunts in front of you with all a different look, and this goes for every other enemy

also you have to memorize every little things they do differently.

This is not a good idea, for the reasons I've talked about previously.

Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication

[last pond]

well, I think that the core of the want is more variation, which is part of roguelikes, but I think that there are better ways to accomplish that

[daring hill]

if anything, i was meaning the glyphid slasher having a little different of a decal on its back

[tall plume]

grunts / slasher / guards variations is an example of a good implementation, praetorians / oppressors too

[last pond]

yeah

[tall plume]

web/acid spitter

[last pond]

I agree

[tall plume]

DRG already do this

[last pond]

I know

[tall plume]

there's no need to add variants on the variants

it's just more noise

[last pond]

I just thought it might be an interesting topic to discuss why it would not work

[daring hill]

it would increase immersion a good bit tho

it'd be hard to implement

spider graphs, bugs regarding how far the sliders go, balance, etc

[tall plume]

hard to implement and actually harmful for gameplay on a practical level is a double whammy

[last pond]

so here's my perspective on this: the silhouettes are important when it comes to visual design, as it is a super simple identifier
drg already has great silhouettes for it's enemies which is why it works so well
the sliders idea you posed would affect the silhouettes of the enemies, which would make identifying them more difficult
unless the sliders only had very small effects which would be much more difficult to notice, making it less impactful
when it comes to color identity the drg bugs have certain color identities for a lot of the bugs
having random colors would make color identities inconsistent and thus take away another useful identifier, which is bad
I think that there could be a way you could achieve this affect in a good way
drg actually already kind of does this!
swarmers have a different color in certain biomes, but due to their size and silhouette they are still easily identifiable as swarmers
same with praetorians and goo bombers
instead of sliders having a couple sets of distinctions that are linked to the enemy would still get a similar effect with less negative impact, and it's something drg already does!

I think that's a really interesting and deep topic and I hope that my insights have at least helped a bit

[daring hill]

fair

i just feel that killing the same bug over and over gets repetitive

it'd introduce a feeling of natrual selection and mutations in the genes

not just 50 of the same slasher

a grunt would still look like a grunt, but they are slightly different

one has a slight resistance to poison but is susceptible to fire, while the other one is immune to fire but is mushy and weak

[last pond]

I think that the natural selection is represented by the different types of glyphids
Grunts have two different variations, slasher and gaurds
and the rest of the glyphids are extremely varied as well

[tall plume]

that's what biome variants are for, and that's fine since they're stuck in their own biome

[daring hill]

if thats true, then why aren't all glyphids their most potent variant?

hundreds of thousands of grunts are killed, probably every day, why won't they all be guards and slashers

[last pond]

because the dwarves haven't had as much of an effect on the bugs

[daring hill]

then how big is hoxxes?

[last pond]

pretty big

[daring hill]

like jupiter big?

[last pond]

who knows?

[daring hill]

because theres no way its as big as earth

[lone sorrel]

i think if it was as big as jupiter the gravity would be too much

[last pond]

I have a question

[lone sorrel]

no way the dwarves should be able to jump and climb on hoxxes if it was that big

[daring hill]

then how are mining operations still happening on this planet?

there's gotta be a million of those damn heartstones

and those have to appear in perfect conditions, too

with enough oil shale to fuel the drilldozer to mine the damn thing

[last pond]

ok I think that trying to explain game mechanics via real world logic is going to make creating a game a lot more difficult

[daring hill]

ye

(lets drop the whole thing about glyphid variation, i think i have a better and simpler idea)

missions having parts of other missions inside of them

like, your primary objective is to mine some morkite, and maybe get a couple gunk seeds, but you spot an egg you can get

[last pond]

like, deep dives?

[daring hill]

ye

but more rare

i enjoy the rare dreadnought you can fight in a mission

but i would like it even more if it was optional

like, you see a cocoon there, nobodys telling you to pop it

same thing with meteors and data deposits

[last pond]

I get the idea, I just don't know if there's a place for it in drg

[daring hill]

it fits it so well tho?

its like having an overcharge sprinkler

MC isnt telling you to do it

its just... there

you can mine that morkite vein for a few extra credits

[last pond]

those give other benefits than just the core objectives, and give a different challenge as well

[daring hill]

so does popping a cocoon

you have to fight a dreadnought

but no more chance of a glyphid queen

[last pond]

I think that at that point it would be better to have a new unique mission event

[daring hill]

maybe

[tall plume]

you kinda have that with random events (and random dread swarms)

[daring hill]

but again, i am for more immersion in rogue core

it doesent feel right that morkite and morkite only spawns in mining missions

you just found a spot with a lot of it

how does morkite only form in specific places but nitra and gold forms everywhere

how come eggs only are laid in a specific spot

[last pond]

I'm not sure that really is an important aspect of the game

if it had a mechanical effect, why? there needs to be more there than just it makes sense in the world

since it is first and foremost a game

the world / story is a backdrop to the gameplay

in a different game where the gameplay focused on the world or story more that would be a reasonable thing to keep in mind

but for drg which focuses on the gameplay cycle that would overcomplicate things unnecessarily

I get wanting to be immersed in the world and setting but drg just isn't built for that purpose

[daring hill]

but to go against your point, why are there the meteor showers and prospectors, core events and korloks, but no intertwination of missions?

[last pond]

it has some nice stuff to immerse you in the boots of the dwarves and their lives, and does some cool stuff to add more immersion to the life on hoxxes, but doing more than what it has seems like it would take away from the gameplay experience

[last pond]

there is in deep dives

[daring hill]

i know

why cant that be in the base(er) game?

[last pond]

what would it add to the gameplay

is the point I am trying to make

[daring hill]

just as much as a core event or data deposit

nobody (usually) is telling you to do it

its just... there

[last pond]

the mission events add other unique aspects and challenges to the missions that are both optional and seperated from the core mission goals

[daring hill]

same with a vein or two of morkite

[daring hill]

i think you missed one of these key points, it would not be required to do in a mission

[last pond]

yeah I know

that's what I am saying

it serves no gameplay purpose

that others do not server better

[daring hill]

same with data deposits and prospectors now

all they serve is to get you a few extra credits

dont even get me started on error cubes

[last pond]

I don't think you are understanding what I am trying to say

[daring hill]

that its serves no purpouse in core gameplay?

[last pond]

half way there

the purpose you want it to serve is done better by other existing systems

if you found an egg mid morkite mission that would be less exciting than finding an actually unique mission event

such as prospectors

or matrix core events

or korloks

[daring hill]

not really

because those can appear in any mission

2/20 missions have a korlok

[last pond]

ok I don't think this is going anywhere so I think I'll just stop

[daring hill]

how would it be different if there was an egg in your salvage mission

[lone sorrel]

i would be so dissapointed

id think "aw man this couldve been something cool but its not"

[last pond]

exactly

it isn't something new

it's a core objective that is out of place

it doesn't add variety

[lone sorrel]

its just a swarm trigger

[last pond]

basically

[lone sorrel]

its like "do you want like 50 extra exp for killing these bugs"

[daring hill]

same with data deposits

do you want 150 xp to babysit a robot and throw down some transmitter nodes?

[lone sorrel]

yeah but at least data deposits are somewhat interesting

[last pond]

yes

[lone sorrel]

its like "oo the big evil bad guys have been here oh no"

compared to the egg where its like "oh there was a bug here"

[daring hill]

what about the helmet and cargo crate?

[lone sorrel]

resources and cosmetics

always welcome

[daring hill]

ok thats fair

[lone sorrel]

lost packs are kind of a pain in the ass sometimes

[daring hill]

just order a resupply under them

[lone sorrel]

yeah what if you cant do that

how do i get up

you dig

youre gonna be digging either way

[last pond]

I do have to say, on the topic of helmet/cargo crate
if you have all the cosmetics you could get from those pools, most players don't even do them
the point is that having mission objectives from other missions just be present and optional is there is not a good reason to add them

sure some players would do them for fun

sometimes

but it is not a good addition to the game

[daring hill]

what do you do after you've completed all deep dives and assignments for the week?

[last pond]

as half of the reason the core objectives are the way that they are is because they are required

do other things

[lone sorrel]

play with friends maybe

do hard missions

those are fun

[daring hill]

like indus with low oxy?

or haunted cave indus?

[lone sorrel]

no just like

whatever i can find

[last pond]

the game is designed around the gameplay loop, and adding in other objectives from other missions does not improve the gameplay loop

[lone sorrel]

i like rival presence and mactera plauge

[lone sorrel]

yeah that

[daring hill]

but does it change it too much either?

[last pond]

the point of the mission events is they are an extra new thing that adds challenge if you want to do them on top of the core mission

[lone sorrel]

like it makes hoxxes feel more "real" in a way but theres no reason

[last pond]

it doesn't even do that

[lone sorrel]

how so

[daring hill]

theres no reason to mine the error cubes, but people freak out over them

[lone sorrel]

xp

[daring hill]

i hardly even notice it

[lone sorrel]

yeah because you probably dont pay attention to it

[daring hill]

isnt it only like 1500 xp tho?

[lone sorrel]

4000

[daring hill]

mk, a decent amount

[lone sorrel]

thats quite a bit for just mining a rock

[lone sorrel]

idk thats like an entire 200 morkite mission

[last pond]

most players when playing do not think about how "real" the game is, they think about the objectives and events that are around them. the stuff that actually makes hoxxes feel like a living breathing system comes from other mechanics present in the game

[lone sorrel]

i can see that yeah

[last pond]

joeninja101 I get wanting to be immersed in the world but what you are suggesting would hurt the core design of the game

if being immersed in the world and story is important to you, I get that

[daring hill]

well then it could be a setting, like the season completion toggle

[lone sorrel]

yeah but why

[last pond]

all I am trying to say is that it would not be worth the dev's time to implement that especially if it's like togglable

[lone sorrel]

entire toggle and mechanic for just like. a fucking swarm

[daring hill]

then why have a season when players can never be satisfied?

[lone sorrel]

"would you like this entirely optional swarm to randomly appear in your missions?"

[last pond]

what are you talking about?

seasons add whole new content, that's the point of them

[daring hill]

the whole reason why season 4 got a toggle

it was badly recieved

[lone sorrel]

because rockpox sucks ass and is unfun

[last pond]

at least it was something new

instead of reusing old content

[lone sorrel]

yeah

[last pond]

it was a substantial change that had a tangible effect on gameplay

[lone sorrel]

it couldve been worse they couldve added like. rockpox detonators or something

[grand acorn]

nice!

[daring hill]

those guys sound easy

[last pond]

still would have had a more tangible effect than putting random mission objectives into normal missions

[daring hill]

pop all the blisters and away them (and you) go

[grand acorn]

creature readability is great 👍

[last pond]

yes

[daring hill]

that boat's sunk already

[last pond]

I believe in the ability of the devs to make a good and enjoyable game

and if I'm not the target audience, that's completely fine with me

because the game doesn't have to cater to everyone

[grand acorn]

because it overstayed and the next season will be arriving later than usual*

no one complained about it more than the usual when it was during its prime but it stayed for too long and that's what made everyone hate it

[daring hill]

thats why not every game is 100% positive reviews

thats why theres more than like... 6 games out there

[lone sorrel]

i never liked it it lags the fuck outta my game

[grand acorn]

it lags your game =/= it isn't fun

[lone sorrel]

yup you got it!

wiat ufck misread that

[daring hill]

mmh, fine, a idea that everyone would like and wouldnt be hard to make

make gold in missions worth mining

[grand acorn]

crack cocaine in deep rock

mine minerals and get rewarded with real life shipments of cocaine to your doorstep

i'd play the shit out of that

[daring hill]

not for long

[lone sorrel]

you could play that forever??

[grand acorn]

probably not yeah

[lone sorrel]

infinite money glitch

[strange falcon]

They really need to have the drop pod seats be facing eachother in DRG rogue

I want to see everyones drip

[daring hill]

or redesign the droppod to allow a modification station inside

so that if you screwed yourself and added the wronc oc to the wrong build you can save it before the mission starts

[celest viper]

Just realized, risk of rain has droppod as well

[strange falcon]

I might have to play that again.

[gloomy glen]

I just came to read the chat, I saw some leaf lovers complaining about new content. I'll chop your pointy ears off.

[timid crypt]

How you get access to rogue corr?

[median sleet]

You buy it when it releases

[delicate mantle]

is rogue core out yet

):

[fringe maple]

no

[delicate mantle]

damnit

[grand acorn]

have the ship not leave until I get into the seat instead of just crossing that border thing

Or atleast launch it and let me get seated. Every last dwarf on a mission always has to spend the entire trip back home standing it's really not healthy for the knees!

[tall plume]

November 2024

[delicate mantle]

(:

[void plume]

(in theory)

[high sedge]

It's q12024 come on Where's the clothes alpha devs

[raven wharf]

It’s Q1 until the end of March.

[flat barn]

How does one get onto a closed alpha please? Buy the game when it's possible to buy it?

[hollow bear]

#rogue-core-chat message

All we know about the alpha so far

Not much, but it's something

[flat barn]

tyvm sir!

[knotty creek]

just really informed myself about rouge core today, so sick

[calm yoke]

Q1 is only January, if I believe really hard the other months don't exist

[barren holly]

is there a closed alpha going on rn?

[olive narwhal]

Just said closed alpha q1 2024 so it could be but i feel like it would be announced

[tall plume]

it would most likely be announced

[median sleet]

Yes, but only for the devs

[rare quarry]

Well, I wouldn't say we're quite at the alpha level just yet. A lot of features are still subject to change

[tawdry frigate]

Prototype would be the better word.

[median sleet]

Lootbugs in the game yet?

[rare quarry]

No

There's neither Nitra nor gold in the core

[tall plume]

expenite lootbugs when

[median sleet]

Lootbugs also eat other minerals (like expenite)

[tall plume]

Poor game designers, having to catter with our BS

[median sleet]

No BS: No lootbugs = no buy

[pure vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-dear-in-trouble-carlos-madrigal-wilmer-valderrama-from-dusk-till-dawn-gif-21301737

[hollow bear]

#justiceforlootbugs

[pure vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/take-it-back-arnold-schwarzeegger-angry-gif-14193165

[calm yoke]

Are you mentally prepared for losing features you thought were cool during development?

[tawny karma]

who says they will

[fresh jetty]

I mean that is just part of game development, there are always cool ideas that can't make it in

[lost horizon]

Is RC going to be on console also, looks like only pc so far?

[tall plume]

likely to be on console but the Steam version is going to be the first one they develop before doing ports

[devout scarab]

comes with the job i'd say 🙂

[pure vessel]

The likelihood of a console version happening is high. But PC is the only and primary focus right now.

[pure vessel]

We'll strangle them slowly and look them in the eyes as their code turns to dust.

[tall plume]

"Police ? I'd like to report a murder"

"Some poor innocent feature just got thanos-snapped by the developers"

[pure vessel]

Perfectly balanced. As it should be.

[calm yoke]

Only to come back to haunt you because you didn't properly clear the code years later.

[pure vessel]

It's the burden we must bear as creators

[calm yoke]

"Why is there a file called fart.wav that breaks the net code when we try to remove it?"

"Dunno. Guy who made it left a year ago"

[hollow bear]

Think I'm gonna contact the offices of Karl, Karl and Karl to get a lawsuit started for lootbug representation in Rogue Core. We can't stand idly by and let this atrocity continue.

[cedar kelp]

🟥

they are pointing at the core

[void plume]

🔴

shouldn't it be a ball

[cedar kelp]

no cause that's too poligonal heavy, wouldn't fit into the game

[weary quest]

Management, Karl, and Control ltd

[onyx lotus]

I'm genuinely excited for this, as a drg player I always loved the ways to do missions and blow bugs away, can't wait for how RC will do it's own take for a rogue like game

[pine skiff]

I still think the core should have gone wizard

[simple cloak]

Can’t wait to trick shot some glyphids with the precision weapon

[fresh jetty]

controversial opinion but I am hopefull for less customization in terms of playstyles. Devs have said over and over about how hard it is adding new content, and I think a big issue in all games is that the more options you have, the lower the overall quality. Not to say the DRG weapons are bad by any means. I just think that with fewer options you can tune the experience a lot better

weird example, but bloodborne vs dark souls. A lot more weapons in dark souls, but in bloodborne almost every weapon has a unique playstyle that made combat a lot more interesting imo

[tall plume]

Did they make the few weapons more interesting because they didn't have a lot, or they didn't have a lot because they took the time to make them interesting ?

The part about "adding new content is hard" is also taken largely out of context here.

From Robert's own words :

So do we. Ironically, that's part of the reason why we're excited to work on a new game, because then that becomes possible again.

Adding new content to DRG now is exponentially more work than it used to be, simply because of how big the game is now.

But no, and I can say this unequivocally - the days of DRG getting HUGE content dumps regularly are done. You do that early in a game's development cycle. Every new thing we add now is like adding new floors to a card house already teetering under its own weight.

[fresh jetty]

I think it's the latter. I think if you try to make 10 unique choices it doesn't take the time and resources that making 50 unique choices would take

[tall plume]

It could simply have been a design choice rather than a constraint too.

Hard to know without being able to peak behind the veil in details.

[fresh jetty]

I don't think I took those comments out of context, btw. Like I said, adding something that's unique and well tuned takes up a lot of time and effort, esspecially if you need to do it for 6 weapons on every class

I don't think why they made the choice is really what matters at the end of the day, I think that ultimately you can't have both high quantity and high quality in perfect balance.

[tall plume]

You probably can, given enough time, and depending on the system you're working with.

And depending on many logistic questions but that's a given

that's why balancing is a thing, after all : fine tuning what needs it.

[fresh jetty]

Like I said before, just to be clear, the weapons and options in drg are not bad by any means, but not every build is going to be as good as every other build. I get it's ridiculous to expect every possible combination for every upgrade to be balanced, but that's kind of my point.

[tall plume]

yeah perfect balance doesn't exist, especially when a part of it is submitted to subjectivity and a lot of random factors.

Out of curiosity : Did you play Battlebits Remaster ?

[fresh jetty]

I played a bit of it, but I'm not really a fan of the battlefield style of game

[tall plume]

Battlebit is, I think, a good example of being able to get both quality and quantity.

Granted, it's easier to do than with a game like DRG, where so many guns are very unique and using their own unique mechanics, but still : they managed to make 40 guns play, feel and look different enough to never feel like they are copies of each others.

So it's possible.

I just think that it's a rather pessimistic outlook to assume the quality is gonna drop just because there are more tools. 😄

not that there's anything wrong with that though.

But what's true for DRG won't be for Rogue Core since the systems around the weapons and tools look like they're going to be radically different.

[fresh jetty]

I don't think that having more choices guarantees lower quality, I just think that limiting options could create a better overall experience

[tall plume]

It's 50/50, it could or it could not 😄

I don't know more than any other person out there on Rogue Core but I just know the game will change a lot over its lifetime, if DRG is anything to go by as a comparison.

So I don't think we have to worry, especially since they have a much bigger community and a lot more feedback then they used to.

out of curiosity, what do you expect out of Rogue Core btw ?

as a game, I mean.

[fresh jetty]

That is a big question. I’m hoping for a game where a lot of the play styles comes from the abilities you grab moreso than the weapons you choose. Roboquest is a game that’s a pretty good example of that. I think that obviously certain weapons will work with certain play styles better (like a shotgun for a close-ranged build), but I’m hoping for the variety to come from how you choose the upgrades.

[tall plume]

That's what I'm expecting myself, from what we've all seen transpired.

Can't wait to know more, ngl. I'm expecting some news for the Anniversary stream, at the latest.

[fresh jetty]

I almost forgot about the stream. Something cool to look forward to!

[tall plume]

indeed !

[tall plume]

also looking forward to what I hope to be the return of the festive rig from the 5th year

||or a new one, I'm fine with that too||

[onyx lotus]

Same here dude!

[frozen minnow]

fellas

closed alpha when?

[hollow wolf]

Never, game is cancelled

[wraith heath]

Even tho the Videos for Rogue Core are a while ago , i just got them recommended and i was wondering after watching everything if Rogue Core is gonna come to Console like PS4 etc. aswell after like idk 1 or 2 years after full release on steam

[hollow wolf]

They said there's no plans for that right now because that's too far out to think about

I'm sure we'll hear more about ports when the game is finished or close to finished

[wraith heath]

aight

[near lodge]

[pure vessel]

I think PS4 is unlikely. They' too old at this point.

I'm however sure that it will come out on current gen consoles like PS5 and XB1 at some point.

Switch is too weak though, but that was true since it was released

Hopefully the next Nintendo console has better specs

[olive narwhal]

Probably better but better enough is a separate question

[tawdry frigate]

If their modern consoles continue to upgrade specs (in small amounts) but also keep RAM the same, it's sort of a dead end.

The WiiU (2012) had 3GB, and the Switch (2017) upgraded only to 8GB.

And speculations note that 8GB might be the new standard for Nintendo consoles.

TL;DR don't get your hopes up.

[olive narwhal]

Switch was 4gb of ram not 8

Some rumors peg the successor at 12gb but any additional bandwith would help alot but even then i doubt rc would make to the successor

[calm yoke]

Ah. Keep dreaming

[pure vessel]

Better than the switch at least. I'm aware that they obviously don't follow current standards. Their way of handling online is archaic.

I don't think in-game voice chat would even be possible on Switch given how they butchered it on Splatoon 3.

[frigid path]

Damn cancel culture

[wraith heath]

Good to know , cause i rly would love to try this game one day when its finished , always worth to wait

[tall plume]

it's not going to be "finished" for a few more years, considering November 2024 is just the early access launch

[wraith heath]

I know, just saying i can wait for a couple more years thats it

[tawdry frigate]

Splatoon 2 (S3 has no VC) and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe use your phone for VC, yeah.

There's a diagram for Splatoon 2 VC where you have to wire your Switch and Phone into an audio splitter into a set of headphones to have a traditional experience.

(Game Audio from Switch + Voice Audio from Phone)

It's definitely quite nuts how many hoops you have to jump through due to limitations.

[fresh jetty]

I also hope for a nintendo launch, I'm a big nintendo fanboy

I will buy a copy even if it has to be butchered to fit on their very low power console ❤️

[grand acorn]

can't wait for deep rock's game console ™️ launch 👍

[pine trout]

whwew can we follow updates for rogue core?

[hollow bear]

Right here and at the steam page : #rogue-core-chat message

[royal viper]

random foolish question (that does not take into count any legal basis, my apologies), but hear me out, will we hear a DRG type of ost like that one popular FPS franchise's alternative PvE round-based arena with zombies gamemode's iconic theme track?

[crude briar]

wanted to type this to say im looking forward to this game! had a lot of great moments in the original title and it's gonna be exciting to see how this one develops

[gilded junco]

Is Rogue Core supposed to overtake DRG?

Well I guess the better way to put it, is it supposed to act more like a sequel with a different formula?

[void plume]

not initially

it's presented as a separate thing so far

[crude briar]

here's the steam page for more info https://store.steampowered.com/app/2605790/Deep_Rock_Galactic_Rogue_Core/

[shy cedar]

I wish the core would go rogue,
I schizophrenicly check the steam page every day

[grizzled lotus]

same

[wraith rain]

really hoping there'll be an announcement for the closed alpha they mentioned soon, i'm really hyped for rogue core

[shell hawk]

Oh cool a rogue like

[wet pier]

man I thought rogue core was season 5

didn't know it was a separate title

[crude briar]

season 5 is also coming, i don't remember when tho

likely drops simultaneously

[proven canopy]

it does but thats like t3 of the year

[sleek swallow]

all of these questions above and the previous questions farther up that have been asked are answered in the pinned messages

[shy cedar]

Season 5 is gonna be the buildup to rogue core official release

[median sleet]

No

[wet pier]

oh that's sick

[onyx lotus]

Noice

[pure vessel]

No, it's a spinoff.

[gilded junco]

ah

[pure vessel]

Season 5 will drop before rogue core if I'm not mistaken.

[daring hill]

Cool

One last season of deep rock before rogue core

[civic root]

Last implies it will stop

Deep rock will still go on

[olive narwhal]

Season 6 is on the roadmap nothing beyond that atm they dont plan super far in advance

[median sleet]

yeah, there will be more seasons after s5

[civic root]

Yeah just cause is not there yet doesn't mean it won't exist

Here #rogue-core-chat message

[onyx lotus]

Either way I'm very keen to try it out. Should prove great for a rogue like once it's early access. As for Season 5, who knows

[civic root]

I'm very hyped for both, Mr John darktide

[simple cloak]

Roadmap update? 🥺 👉 👈

[grand acorn]

on my bank account

there's an entry fee though

currently negotiating with the devs to remove it but it's not too expensive

[civic root]

Whens the punchline

[onyx lotus]

Idk

[pure vessel]

Didn't we release one a while ago?

[spring prawn]

Im hyped for the early access build

[civic root]

I'm hyped for anything associated with ghostship, fantastic people