rogue-core-chat

[lone cypress]

rc might do the same?

sign up via steam and have rng on your side?

[halcyon creek]

i wonder how closed alpha will work

will it just be a small group of 10-20 people internally or will it be a registration thing

[lone cypress]

10-20 people will always be those who have been here forever

[halcyon creek]

yeah

hopefully we find out more details

[lone cypress]

arm display i wonder what that is for

[halcyon creek]

i hope to find out if the closed alpha will be more of an internal play test rather than something that can be shared

[lone cypress]

what

time dilation?

do wonder if rc will take some ideas from drgs

like in drgs you can spend some minerals and credits to upgrade base stats

like more luck for more rare upgrades

do wonder how rc works

like all missions are some 5 stage DDs?

which take longer than your avg drg mission? 🤔

[frail fable]

100 stage deep dive

[lone cypress]

no, get out

[frail fable]

Yes, its SOTS all over again

We are going all the way down to the 🅱️ungus 🅱️ogs

[waxen ermine]

Just 100 stage? No, this is a ride that will never end. Trapped in an eternal cycle by Hoxxes IV.

[lone cypress]

the ramrod is the new ship?

something tells me gsg will reuse alpha drg ship layout

[eager hamlet]

We're rich.

[lone cypress]

Sots?

[median osprey]

do different sources of the same dot dmg type stack?

wait wrong chat xd

[median cargo]

rouge core chat

[astral whale]

rogue core chat

[frail fable]

ranked core chat

What is your core level

[wet tulip]

56

56,000

[icy scaffold]

Oh lord a bad man is in the rogue core chat

[daring cape]

Hyped

[frozen pier]

whats this game going to be like

this is also a good chance to make the lobby area in rogue core able to fit more than four dwarves at a time

[faint aspen]

Game's only 1-4 co-op and have you ever played or heard of a game called Gunfire Reborn or Risk of Rain 2? Those are the two they directly mentioned when stating what it's gonna be like.

[deep agate]

hi chat what are your thoughts on rogue core

ive...basically not looked in here yet.

[forest rain]

I can't wait to shoot bugs

looking forward to this game

[old swift]

much more interested in this than another quick season release following the same formula, tbh

[unkempt lance]

would be interesting to me if theres still some drg loadout building elements

[brave oriole]

Looking forwards to it, I'm excited for new areas and weapons

[pearl tinsel]

Dissapointed that devs seem more interested in it than innovating with drg itself, but rogue core's concept alone sounds even more fantastic, as someone who likes roguelites quite a lot

[deep agate]

yeah i liked gunfire a lot

it sounds like it was born out of too much innovating.

[forest rain]

I'm decently fine with the additional wait, it's nice to see the devs trying something new, and I'm hopeful for both season 5 and rogue core

[deep agate]

i still hope for a drg2 someday

and, with any luck

jetty boot survivor

[forest rain]

still, can't say it isn't a bit disappointing, but it's understandable. It'll be a bigger game change than a new season for sure

drg2 eh? would be sick

[pearl tinsel]

They made very clear to not expect season 5 to be any bigger than the past couple seasons which has me very much turned off of the main game for the foreseable future

[deep agate]

but season 5 will at least tie into rogue core, letting us know what thats going to be all about

so we'll get answers.

[forest rain]

I'm still hoping it'll be some decent new content I guess, I have fonder memories of robots than rockpox personally

[pearl tinsel]

Yeah but that won't make me more interested in playing drg

[pearl tinsel]

I also preferred robots. I miss rival presence missions

[deep agate]

i hope they tie in the missing shuttles

the tens of thousands of missing shuttles lol

[pearl tinsel]

The wha?

[deep agate]

you know, the shuttles.

the ones that deliver the sandwhiches that never arrive, the party floaties that never arrive, the mugs that never arrive.

they always crash into hoxxes and we gotta find the deliverables.

where are they going 👀

[pearl tinsel]

I think it's just the cargo and not the shuttle itself, cuz MC says several times that it's the same guy losing the shipments every time

[unkempt lance]

i thought some landed correctly, but others went missing

mostly

[pearl tinsel]

I hope we get female dwarves right off the bat in rogue core. Would be a lot easier to implement female characters in a new game

[worn skiff]

joined at u33 and my fav is s3

[deep agate]

that begs the question..........who does he REALLY work for

hes awfully familiar with hoxxes to fly a shuttle so deep

[pearl tinsel]

Walmart

[deep agate]

runemart

[forest rain]

an *lf disguised as a dwarf

[junior knoll]

For rock and stone!

[civic hemlock]

For DRG right?

How tf do they crash the cargo so damn deep

Also yeah, come to think of it there are even more things you could tie to the core

[waxen ermine]

And without a corresponding tunnel above the mugs

[civic hemlock]

Like the awfully high crash rate of shuttle pilots as you said

Wall Eyes are obvious

[lone cypress]

if rc aint rock n stone

it aint comin home

[civic hemlock]

Oh btw this is a bit of a necro post but I swear I've played a deep dive with you

I jumped to DMs immediately which was stupid tbh

[hollow palm]

@rare quarry Well sort of. Isaac and risk of rain are both games where rng is what makes every run new and interesting, but part of the fun is how your decisions still matter in spite of random elements

[civic hemlock]

So I'll just ping you here instead

[rare quarry]

I can't believe I got thrown out of drg-chat

now I'm angry

[drowsy igloo]

risk of rain 2 has ways to offset rng, like printers

[hollow palm]

So rng isn’t something bugging the player, but it’s also part of the challenge

[calm yoke]

[lone cypress]

you are safe here with us

[hollow palm]

Restaurant owner told the specials aren’t great by the server

[lone cypress]

[calm yoke]

Honest question: how much inspiration are you taking from Survivor in terms on RNG?

[waxen ermine]

Chat went rogue and overthrew a dev

[drowsy igloo]

it's not about randomly giving the player worse items, it's about challenging the player's understanding of which items are better

[hollow palm]

Ideally what’s better or worse depends on run context

[median sleet]

Please use rouge everytime you make this joke, it makes it funnier for me

[hollow palm]

But that’s where not having a start point is a unique idea

[waxen ermine]

Chat wants rouge and overthrew a dev

[hollow palm]

If you’re always working towards a best case scenario - what are the things that really make runs work

[median sleet]

Thanks

[civic hemlock]

Yo

[rare quarry]

Yes, that's the ideal. I also like it when personal preference is a factor. Like it's not only about which is more powerful, but also getting to pursue what you think is cool or enjoy using

[calm yoke]

Now watch as they make a new server rule for that specific joke

[civic hemlock]

How's life at GSG like dev man

[median sleet]

I will make it happen

[hollow palm]

Vampire survivors, risk of rain, Isaac - runs in these games all look exactly the same; at the end of the game

[civic hemlock]

Is it a cool beans workspace?

[hollow palm]

So having a uniform start is where I’m kinda curious/nervous/hyped

Too much player control - eh does it really matter what you pick/will you pick what’s best always

[drowsy igloo]

risk of rain 1, maybe. on ror2 and isaac I disagree

[median sleet]

They're running out of toilets

[rare quarry]

I have my coffee and ate some Danish pastries, so it's pretty good

[hollow palm]

Too little? Every run is the same

[calm yoke]

How much would you like people to customise their starting gear? Will every run always start the same way, or is there some fine tuning possible before starting a run?

[civic hemlock]

What time is it in daneland?

[rare quarry]

Yeah, I has to wait, like, 2 minutes for a restroom to free up. It was terrible

[civic hemlock]

Ah... Denmark

That's the name of the country

[rare quarry]

09:57

[drowsy igloo]

in fact, the reason ror1 has runs all looking the same is because the player has literally no control over their items, so the rule of large numbers evens you out to the same build

[median sleet]

Report it to your union. I recommend joining mighty miners

[calm yoke]

Dirt Diggers or get out.

[hollow palm]

@.tim_superexpert the way I’m interpreting it, you want to flip the uniformity thing by making builds shaping a more unique identity over time, rather than losing it to scaling/player choice over time.

[civic hemlock]

What Danish Pastries?

[drowsy igloo]

I only just realized we have the same point lol

[waxen ermine]

Cave Crawlers for worker solidarity

[civic hemlock]

I haven't had a pastry in a while

I want pastries now

[hollow palm]

Mhm

[lone cypress]

rc better has some 🫳 and 🫳

[rare quarry]

It was some disgustingly sweet chocolate rolls with syrup. We didn't get any pain au chocolat or tebirkes today

[calm yoke]

I do wonder how much of the known fauna of Hoxxes Rogue Core will reuse

[hollow palm]

There’s an amusing pattern of gsg devs popping in after/during breakfast and then headed to work

[calm yoke]

I do hope we'll see more neutral fauna along the lines of the cave angel variant.

[hollow palm]

I wonder if they pop in here during work hours when they’re not supposed to

[calm yoke]

100%

[civic hemlock]

Ah, they can just call it community engagement can't they?

[calm yoke]

I am here during a work call

[hollow palm]

true

[rare quarry]

I got pastries at the office

[hollow palm]

gsg water cooler is also the community engagement hub, got it

[civic hemlock]

What excites you the most about developing Rogue Core?

[hollow palm]

Danish pastries are sick though. France is overrated

[civic hemlock]

Please don't spoil things

[lone cypress]

rot things instead

[rare quarry]

For me it's being able to participate in establishing the core gameplay of a fresh game. I'm like 1 year out of game development school so I'm just excited to get to be a part of designing a cool new game of a genre I really enjoy

[civic hemlock]

Also the GSG dev team is larger than I expected tbh

[hollow palm]

It was pretty big back in early access

[civic hemlock]

Did you play DRG before joining GSG?

[quartz pier]

Can I just say I am disappointed by the community reception of Rogue Core?
The idea of having a rogue like DRG seems fantastic

[hollow palm]

20-30 people or something. Pretty sick

[hollow palm]

Anyone who’s thought about it for like 5 minutes has gotten hyped yeah

[civic hemlock]

We love it

[hollow palm]

As opposed to the knee jerk “Aw man but I don’t want rockpox ”

[rare quarry]

No, I saw it on steam once and dismissed is as some dumb-looking minecraft clone for babies. It was only after I spoke with Mike I realised that it was the real deal lmao

[lone cypress]

people have 1 rule

they dont like change

no matter what it is

[civic hemlock]

Heh, that's kinda amusing

Do you play DRG now?

If yes, how often

[hollow palm]

The main (valid) complaint is the season getting stale.

The counterpoint is that it’s for a great cause

[quartz pier]

Yup, sadly. Like I too would have loved to see DRG expanded, but hell, having a new completely gameplay/idea is better than receving another season

[hollow palm]

^

[rare quarry]

Yes. I used to play it daily last year when I just started, but now I don't play on my free time unless someone I know wants me to join their onboarding session or something

[hollow palm]

Is it the kind of game you’d usually/previously play

[tall plume]

morning Tim 👋

[quartz pier]

I will add that, despite the community reaction, dont change plans, and continue with Rogue Core
Quality over quantity, always

Goodbye

[rare quarry]

Right now I play Endless legend a lot. Before that it was Barony. The game I've played the most on steam is Total war warhammer 2

[rare quarry]

Goodmorning

[tall plume]

I've tried to get into Endless Legend but couldn't, it didn't click with me ;_;

[rare quarry]

It's been agony to not be able to talk about why things have been moving slowly with the seasons

[civic hemlock]

Also yeah that's a great answer, being part of something new and helping create it brings a special kind of joy

One that you just can't replicate

[calm yoke]

Summon the Elector Counts!

[hollow palm]

Most everyone’s kept the faith, thank god.

[rare quarry]

NO PEACE, JUST WAR.

[tall plume]

best ref

[civic hemlock]

Early Access releases in Q4 2024 right?

[tall plume]

yeah

[calm yoke]

Check pins

Yes

[tall plume]

at least that's what is planned

[broken flame]

"Planned"

More like

Destined

[civic hemlock]

Tbh even if they say the game is early access I'll probably just end up treating it as a complete release that'll continuously be updated

[median sleet]

Hi Ser 👋

[hollow palm]

The goal for early access was same quality as drg but continually expand scope

I’m guessing that means no potato graphics or low poly gun models, and a focus on adding raw scalable content

[civic hemlock]

That was all prototype stuff though, of course it'd be like that

[hollow palm]

ie: starts as an alt gamemode for drg, starts to flesh out its own identity with time

[civic hemlock]

They were trying to test it out to see if it even worked

They know it works now

[hollow palm]

I’m comparing it to drg early access, where they were still developing the terrain generation

As opposed to now, where they essentially started making a more interesting deep dive generator

[tall plume]

👋

[civic hemlock]

Ye, I see what you mean

[eternal cairn]

I know y'all care so much for quality, so if, big giant 'if' with the fantabulous skills of y'all's showcased so far, but if Q4 2024 happens to not be enough time to share something y'all are proud of please dont be afraid to push it back.

Can't really speak for anyone else but I really wanna see this come to fruition, and will love to be patient for it.

[rose meteor]

Still waiting for special powder minigun

Make it happen guys, pls

Nvm wrong chat 💀

[hazy moss]

Jetpack Joyride

[forest rain]

technically could be a possibility in rogue core amirite to say that

[rose meteor]

YES BABYYYYY

Thats what im talking about

Make it real

[hazy moss]

Can't wait to rocket myself into the ceiling and power attack the web spitter

[rose meteor]

The leech

[forest rain]

will rogue core have a melee build in a game about rock and gun

[rose meteor]

A plasma pickaxe would be crazy

[eternal cairn]

Oh shit, that would be hype as hell to have dedicated melee weapons and builds

[forest rain]

i just want parry

[rose meteor]

Bro wants to play mordhau against glyphids

[forest rain]

though, it might not fit in the idea of drg at some point, though

[forest rain]

im more of a sekiro player myself

[rose meteor]

Honestly i would be down

[rose meteor]

More of a multiplayer guy, but to each their own

[forest rain]

nice

[eternal cairn]

Vampire perk is just zandatsu from Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance,

Grab the glyphids electrolytes or something

[forest rain]

maybe that's where the time dilation is at

[raw ridge]

Necromorphs from dead space but it's dwarf bodies this time

[lone cypress]

will we get rivals too?

[forest rain]

will the nemesis finally be a friend? (no)

i think as of now when it comes to rogue core, most if not all info are as consistent as the weather; there's not much known right now since it's not even in closed alpha yet, only speculations

[hazy moss]

yes please

I want to beat the bugs at their own game; no guns, up close and personal, melee the life out of them

[forest rain]

i think it'd be cool, but could also end up like vermintide where the player would just get hit from 420 degrees at once

[solemn zinc]

You already can do that. With shield battery booster, skull crusher ale/slayer stout and either power attack damage or recharge mods.

[lone cypress]

in the screens i notice alot of dust flakes

whats up with that

[forest rain]

i might be lost here, what is the context i might be missing?

[humble drum]

Looks like the REZ particles

[torn drum]

Is game out yet?

[lime tapir]

no

[frigid path]

#rogue-core-chat message

[torn drum]

This does not answer my QUESTION

Smh

[cobalt atlas]

It's barely even ready to be out yet! LOL! man this was just annouced a few days ago, its not going to appear anytime soon, they've said multiple times its SUPER early in its development.

[wary tiger]

look at the bottom of the image.

[torn drum]

Still not sure…

[lime tapir]

will the progress in drg be moved to rogue corr somehow? or will u start completely fresh

[atomic sequoia]

In November bruh

[torn drum]

You sure? Could come out soon

i don’t knooooooow

[lime tapir]

like if u start after playing drg, will drg recognize u? or will u be a new miner once again?

[cobalt atlas]

I'll assume fresh? its a completely different game.

[frigid path]

Considering the roadmap was done by the Devs of the game, yes very sure

[wary tiger]

"Closed Alpha"
"Early Access Release on Steam"

both of these point to the fact the game is far from release

[cobalt atlas]

@lime tapir that could be cool if rogue core acknowledges you from your time in DRG, idk how they will do that but gameplay wise its probably very different.

[lime tapir]

yeah i also think that

[torn drum]

We need to garner more evidence

[lime tapir]

ive been playing drg for like three weeks and i already love everything about it

just like the times when i started playing ksp

[wary tiger]

...the devs made the roadmap itself. what more evidence do you need apart from the written word from them

[hollow palm]

It gets worse

you’ll never leave

[lime tapir]

i already feel addicted fr fr

[torn drum]

Looks like this is a cold case unfortunately

[wary tiger]

your call

[lone cypress]

the way the guy acts is like pre-16yo imo

expenite lol

[rare quarry]

Here's some more evidence: We are far from being complete with the game

[lone cypress]

crystallized experience

what does experience taste like

regret?

[calm yoke]

Did you find the VA for the characters already, or is it gonna be the same one?

[rare quarry]

No idea, we haven't talked about it yet. We're still prototyping the gameplay

[wary tiger]

tim for the rescue

[lone cypress]

who voices drg again?

[rare quarry]

Some dude named Javier

[lone cypress]

director is mc and the 4 others?

[rare quarry]

Robert is mission control

[lone cypress]

the same person but pitched

since pitch is class based

and rc got no classes

what do you think if pitch is fully randomized?

or player can choose their pitch

a really deep rock and stone

[rare quarry]

I would like something like that

But I don't think that's what we'll go with

[lone cypress]

super high pitched rock and stone

aw

[calm yoke]

Still congrats for designing your first game after completing school, looking forward to playing what you will create (or ridicule you because of how bad it is)

[lone cypress]

lost opportunity

[wary tiger]

well

rogue core is still a prototype

[rare quarry]

Thanks!

[wary tiger]

so let them cook

[velvet marsh]

That meal smellin hella nice, the cookin's good

[wary tiger]

indeed

a nicely cooked, varied buffet

[cinder holly]

Deep Rogue Galactic

[velvet marsh]

Softly grilled slasher claw

(With roguelite upgrades)

[calm yoke]

Ram-rod that core!

[lone cypress]

n-n-noo~

[eager hamlet]

Resisting the urge to kill the lootbug

[tall plume]

do it

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[lone cypress]

*anime loot bug noises*

[vagrant gate]

rogue core is probably just mission control sending the 4 dwarves even deeper into hoxxes nearly completely naked for a suicide mission after he was tired of constantly putting up with their recklessness

[austere slate]

Rogue core

[lone cypress]

nope

new dorfs called reclaimers

[velvet marsh]

Oh-wooah the Core's roguin' out!

[vagrant gate]

oh alright then

so we got a new quartet

thats cool

are the dwarves in survive the same dwarves as from the main game?

[wary tiger]

WoOoOoOoAh! Livin' on a diggin'!

[vagrant gate]

i wonder if reclaimers are a whole different branch of DRG's hoxxes missions squads
i dont suspect the reclaimers ever had a space rig like the quartet of dwarves from the 17th space rig do

[hollow palm]

“This is mission critical. All our hopes rest upon you”

“Here’s the literal cheapest gear we have, cause there’s probably some down there you can use. If you live”

[vagrant gate]

the way theyre gonna be doing in universe pararells is gonna be fun

no doubt

[pure vessel]

Dwarfy McDwarfman

[lone cypress]

deep rock galactic...

deep reaching greed

sup anders

[lone cypress]

OSHA be fuming

[trail forge]

“I popped a lootbug, and I’m not so proud about it”

[lone cypress]

feel watched a video mentioning a video about drg violating osha many times

couldnt find that video

does a new one exist or a list?

[velvet marsh]

I just assume everything they do is some kinda crime

Except Leaf Lovers, that's the only legal thing DRG does

[lone cypress]

if they are so criminal why change the red cross to green

[vale shell]

I'm kinda mad that they didn't call the new mineral Dwarvenite or Dwarfium or something dwarf.

[hollow palm]

The one in a million lawsuit that actually went through

[hollow palm]

Dwarfenite has and always will be mithril

[vale shell]

Mithril doesn't look or sound very dwarven to me

[rapid bronze]

can i put a darlek here?

https://tenor.com/view/explain-gif-27087976

):

[lone cypress]

hoxxes 4 mad

cuz we stole 1 ommorans too many

[velvet marsh]

The core is like the ommoran dad

Now we're going to steal the most forbidden jawbreaker

[velvet marsh]

That'd be way too on the nose, what would be next, some kinda fashion mineral called fashionite?

[lone cypress]

expenite lol

its not only EXPErience

but also EXPENsive

[fresh jetty]

At least it’s not unobtainium

[eager hamlet]

I HAVE TO KILL THE LOOTBUG.

[tall plume]

good good

[lone cypress]

[eager hamlet]

POW! YOU ARE DEAD

[lone cypress]

you get:

0 gold

0 nitra

[eager hamlet]

Nah uh.

[small bough]

really shows how little DRG trust the dwarves and don't reckon they can get the Expenite

[lone cypress]

nah drg trusts them

[small bough]

doubt

[lone cypress]

just "we are rich" and not them

keep the worker poor so he works more

[small bough]

wonder how the new Dwarves will act then

would be neat to see Female Dwarves

[lone cypress]

we have female dwarves in drg

[small bough]

especially if the game's gonna allow for more player expression with no Classes

[small bough]

we do?

[inner dirge]

I wonder if there'll be an art book

[inner dirge]

In theory only

[small bough]

I'll buy a art book for sure

[inner dirge]

I've never bought one before

Doesn't mean there can't be a first

[small bough]

I tend to buy them for any game/movie I enjoy

[inner dirge]

If it depends on how RC turns out

[tall plume]

I've been wishing for one for DRG for a long time now 😔

[small bough]

if there's not an Art book there's usually a Artstation Art blog with alot of that stuff

which is worth

[inner dirge]

Actually I'm mistaken I got an art book for Starfield but I didn't directly buy it, it came with the preorder

[small bough]

B4B and Darktide released one and they were great

my biggest concern for Rogue Core, is the launch

an officially created spinoff to one of the most popular co-op games on Steam

here's hoping no 'Online Only'

[lone cypress]

surely you can play rc solo

[tall plume]

most likely, yes

[lone cypress]

and you may get your trusty NOT-bosco

what if

you get some minimules?

[small bough]

I'll like to see more class variety

the stuff that GSG said they won't add to DRG

[lone cypress]

no classes

[small bough]

I meant the class variety people wanted in DRG

like different kind of gadgets and new ones

[tall plume]

well it's not gonna be classes but it'll be variety regardless 😄

[lone cypress]

you just get more weapons and armors

build the way you play

[small bough]

so the idea of different kinds of Turrets, a Mini Mule that could stay by you

perhaps even more advanced version of existing Class specific gadgets

[lone cypress]

tanky build, damaging build

[small bough]

if the games gonna be harder, makes sense the tools are stronger

[velvet marsh]

Can't wait to find a way to 100% my critical chance

[small bough]

I hope to see more ways to abuse movement tech

cause right now, a DRG roguelite is exactly what I love

DRG base game is fun, but I've unlocked everything and the challenge isn't there

so I've been playing alot of roguelites

and you mix those together, you got some good shit right there

[velvet marsh]

I still have fun with drg, I've stopped playing for the rewards or challenge and started just doing it for the sake of it, having a silly time with some random lads

I'm sure I'll love this too, I'm all about that rogue business

[small bough]

yeah I play for that aswell, but I don't play nearly as much

[civic axle]

Some of the folks Im arguing with genuinely cannot comprehend that, it is exhausting

[small bough]

once I got all the Weapon overclocks and I was happy with the cosmetics, I didn't have that strive to find more

nowadays I play maybe 2-3 missions of DRG a week and play something else

sometimes less

[velvet marsh]

It's not for everyone for sure, different people have fun differently

[small bough]

can't comprehend what?

[velvet marsh]

Playing a game just for the sake of it

[small bough]

ahh

I get that feeling tbf

some people find the award and dopamine rush appealing

[civic axle]

I get that some people have fun differently, but when they insist that I am some kind of shill for telling them that, it gets annoying

[small bough]

we grew up in a generation of Call of Duty multiplayer

every game you unlocked something

was the driving force for why it was addictive. Get a rankup, new attachment, new skin, emblem etc.

and DRG definately incorproated that. New Beer, new skins, weapon overclocks, beards etc.

I can't relate to that idea because personally I grew up with Quake 3, Left 4 Dead and Minecraft

where you just kept playing to get better and get the dopamine rush of getting better

[civic axle]

I get it too, I wouldn't be here for so long if DRG was literally all there is at the early game, but at some point if they are not having fun anymore, they should just play something else

[small bough]

you get the same reaction when you defend the use of awards and unlocks to keep people playing

that happened alot in the B4B crowd where the game lets you unlock stuff with ingame currency

[civic axle]

Yet they really get defensive when I tell them that

[small bough]

because the L4D crowd just don't believe it that

I can't criticse people for being overly passionate about DRG, especially when they've invested years of playtime and feel associated deeply with the community

can be kinda parasocial but I'm not here to judge

I was more bummed at the overwhelming hate about the delay S5, which I expected

[velvet marsh]

At some point it stops being about the game and becomes mostly about how people perceive the situation

It's impossible to change someone's mind about something if they aren't open to it

[civic axle]

You make a pretty fair point about being overly passionate

[inner dirge]

i wonder what the interior of the ramrod looks like

i wonder if we'll have the normal mission control or someone else

🤔

[velvet marsh]

Apparently it's more tight than the space rig, which makes sense it's a space ship

[inner dirge]

yeah

[velvet marsh]

I can't wait to see the little detaild and easter eggs everywhere

[inner dirge]

hopefully theres a sandwich system in RC

maybe to replace the beers

[tall plume]

someone else, i imagine

I'll miss Robert's voice though

😔

[hollow wolf]

Me too

His voice is so damn good

[velvet marsh]

Management advises you to not have a parasocial relationship with the voice inside your head, it's not healthy

Even if it sounds real good and funny when they're angry

[sharp salmon]

Good day y'all

[fresh canyon]

Quick mods

[hollow wolf]

Howdy

[small bough]

hello dev

[velvet marsh]

I think Aaron could 100% be Reclaimer Mission Control, bro's got the voice actor skillset already

[dense maple]

Super hyped for this! DRG was a revolutionary game for me, bringing it back to the classic, enjoyable co-op games. Can't wait to see what Rogue Core brings!

[pure vessel]

Robert will most likely do SOME sort of voice. Maybe as some other role, who knows.

[tall plume]

😌

[calm yoke]

You are giving Rob too much power, he will control the DRGverse soon enough!

[pure vessel]

He wrote the damn thing

[hollow wolf]

Robert plays Mission Control 2 in Rogue Core

[velvet marsh]

Yall gotta find a way to put Hoxxes Rock Radio into the game... uh, or else.

[tall plume]

he already is

[pure vessel]

Liquid Mission Control

[pure vessel]

Heck yeah. Stick it on the drone for the true working class feeling.

[velvet marsh]

Robert already has almost all the dwarf infinity stones, he will get the last one after the rogue core is defeated

[calm yoke]

Weapon frameworks...they give you no tactical advantage whatsoever

[pure vessel]

Liquid weapon frameworks

[hollow wolf]

You're pretty good

[velvet marsh]

Hear me out, plop a little radio in some corner of the space rig, have some folks from the community write some cool fanmusic for it, have Aaron interject every now and then with a funny voice line. Hoxxes Rock Radio, profit.

[inner dirge]

a radio would be pretty cool to have on the ramrod

instead of a jukebox

[hollow bear]

Mission control 2 confirmed

[inner dirge]

can only imagine getting back from the first reclaiming mission and coming back to blues rock on the radio

[teal crest]

playable mission control

[mild oak]

mission control unpaid labor overclock

[sweet surge]

will we find karl in rogue core?
hmm

[warm trench]

ummm so will rouge core still be part of DRG or it anotehr game that you have to download?

[hollow wolf]

Another game

[warm trench]

ohhhh ok

[tall plume]

check the pinned messages

[fresh jetty]

funny idea for an easter egg. you find a broken transmitter that's picking up random signals. it's mostly static but every once and a while you hear something coming from somewhere outside the core...

"Mushroom! mushroom! mushroom! mushroom!"

"what the hell are they doing up there?"

[fresh jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/pushtherock-gif-7588894

Live footage of Ser doot telling people to check pins

[tulip flare]

Does anybody know if rouge core is gonna be cross platform?

[hollow wolf]

they said on stream they're not at the point of thinking about consoles rn

still prototyping the pc version right now

[tulip flare]

Hmm

[hollow wolf]

im sure you can expect console versions but they're not gonna confirm anything when the game barely exists rn

[tall plume]

it's rogue core

[hollow wolf]

lol

[tall plume]

The answer is "nobody knows"

but it's unlikely (personal opinion, not a confirmation)

[tulip flare]

Well they said that drg is probably never gonna be cross platform, since at this point trying to do that would be a monumental task

but I'm just wondering since they're building rc from the ground up so maybe it'd be easier to implement

[tall plume]

ffs, meant to write unlikely

[hollow wolf]

i dont think they've mentioned crossplay at all

again probably too early to really say anything meaningful

[idle bison]

no mission control? can we keep the halloween mask at least?

[hollow bear]

Imagine the meltdown if Rouge Core gets cross play and DRG doesnt

[idle bison]

why'd you italicize your typo

oh i see

[hollow bear]

https://media.tenor.com/pUW_A10-46MAAAAC/toddlers-and-tiaras-big-grin.gif

[weary quest]

drg devs when the players now want cross play for 2 seperate games

[fresh canyon]

Is console rogue

Corr

[hollow wolf]

it's all confirmed

[velvet marsh]

Yeah man like we should be able to join a DRG lobby if we're playing Rogue Core and vice versa, I don't see what the issue would be

[hollow wolf]

cross play, consoles, every suggestion in #rogue-core-suggestions

it's all confirmed

[velvet marsh]

Oh hey I didn't notice that chst existed

Time to go write an essay about how to implement Hoxxes Rock Radio or something

[tulip flare]

Wait where is this?

[hollow wolf]

nowhere, i was joking

[torn drum]

Mmmm pretty damning, this may change things

[lone cypress]

why cant i post pics here~

[tall plume]

#drg-gallery

[cyan valley]

I've been a fan of games like Nethack for a long while, it'll be interesting to see what DRG can do to that mindset

[lone cypress]

current PE mission in magma core its called dead core

[cyan valley]

Rogue DRG missions @_@

[lone cypress]

drg is telling me something

[cyan valley]

Rogueliking it in the DRG universe, sounds like a grand time!

[torn drum]

Waiting for the DRG core to appear like Modok in a floating high chair

[elder rapids]

PLEASE LET THIS BE A THING

[torn drum]

what is Nethack?

[manic sleet]

rouge 👄 💄

[pure ravine]

batoning the rouge

[fresh jetty]

I wonder if there will be the same level of customization for weapons in this game

[tall plume]

Considering how they want to approach the upgrade path, I think it'll be less customized

[fresh jetty]

yeah, I was kind of expecting that based on the little bit of information we have. I do hope there's a way to change up the playstyle a little bit. I feel like thats a way to add a lot of replay value

[torn drum]

i think my biggest wish would be hoping that some of the customization gets as silly as games like TBOI or ROR2

obviously dont clash with the games identity if this isnt the plan

but id be fine with like

awww man you got the upgrade that lets your dwarf leak rockpocks cuz hes infected, this lowers speed a lot but creates a weird damage radius around you that poisons enemies oh my gooood

stuff like that

[frigid path]

It’ll probably be less gun customising but more armour customising considering you get a starting weapon and your phase suit

[hidden hornet]

I wonder what cosmetic customizations will be like (if there is going to be cosmetic customizations)
I wonder if it will be more advanced with more cosmetic slots like having eyewear slot and hair slot

[static flame]

i hope so

[grand acorn]

Any news

[rocky dove]

The core has gone rouge

Nothing new

[whole kindle]

Hello, what is DRG rogue core ?

[spark kelp]

drg rogue core

[whole kindle]

Its like CS2 .

[tall plume]

check the pinned message

[fierce solstice]

Will my son be part of the game ?

Very important

[whole kindle]

on ty

[pearl tinsel]

Rouge is makeup

[velvet marsh]

oh my god, that means the core is having a glow up

[rough falcon]

Other than the Steam Page, what else has been shown so far, if I may?

[wary siren]

SUPER hyped for rogue core, have occasionally been considering trying to learn DRG modding for the express purpose of making a roguelike mode

[elder rapids]

damn, rouge core?

[elder rapids]

your mom

[rough falcon]

:(

[hidden hornet]

Nice burn

[tranquil herald]

Nothing

[grand thistle]

wasnt there a stream

[plain ocean]

This is the game where we learn how deep "too deep" is

Perhaps the immune system is beginning to respond to the parasite

[dreamy hawk]

mayhaps the parasite is the immune system

[plain ocean]

wow what if the system is of a down?

[dreamy hawk]

what if the hard is between a rock

[slow loom]

What's the difference between rock and stone?

[solar umbra]

If I told you I'd have to kill you

[slow loom]

MOMMY

[grizzled crane]

One is rock the other is stone

Next question

[slow loom]

What is this?

[grizzled crane]

C u b e s

[slow loom]

I wonder if it's edible

[grizzled crane]

Anything is if you try hard enough

[slow loom]

By the Beard

[grizzled crane]

Go eat that steel

[slow loom]

[grizzled crane]

omg gold

hopefully this doesn’t start an era where everyone goes to california

for gold

that would be bad

[slow loom]

I want expenite

How do you think does it look

[grizzled crane]

🟢

green

[slow loom]

I'd say blue... Something like dystrum

Dyyyyyustruuuuuuum

[grizzled crane]

green moment

[past terrace]

What about an era wherein people travel to the Yukon?

[calm yoke]

You are an absolute madlad, respect.

Amanda it's mostly people mad about season 5 delay, si not much interesting stuff.

Anyone knows if they confirmed whether season 4 is staying till June?

I'd be fine with a lull period between seasons tbh.

[brave oriole]

For when season 4 ends, They said they are thinking of solutions but nothing confirmed.

So it may end before S5 but don’t bet on it

S4 came out on 6/15/2023 so if it did end early it still wouldn’t be for a bit.

[calm yoke]

"Well done miners, our struggle with the roxpox seems finally to be over. Readings all over the planet indicate a significant drop in infection, the comet has left the orbit of the planet and only very localised clusters seem to have survived.

You truly earned an extra beer round for your endeavours.

Management salute you.

P.S. we are getting some strange data from deeper within Hoxxes, but we think for now it's just some glitch.

Also, management is planning on expanding their assets with onsite bases. So maybe you are gonna finally get shipped that container of Knee pads?

I just hope it won't be delivered by Greybeards Prospector..."

And with that, season 4 ends

Get back to default status the space rig and put the Season terminal under Work in Progress for a while

Nothing fancy

[brave oriole]

Rockpox won’t ever be eradicated since if it was that is a shit ton of content thrown away. But yeah something like that wold be great.

Also #drg-chat would probably be a better place for this discussion

[brave hamlet]

Do you think Rouge core will lean into a more of a horror shooter or do you think it will be more of a see bug, shoot bug, profit ?

[silk dome]

Co-op and horror usually don't mix well, so I'd say the see-shoot kind

[brave hamlet]

I mean something similar to GTFO because i think it would be great to have a highly co-operative section and when the shit hits the fan it swaps to the action part

[median sleet]

I want the ramrod to destroy the meteor instead

[calm yoke]

GTFO says hi

[brave hamlet]

Its going to ram into it like a rod

[small bough]

do you reckon we'll encounter Lootbugs in Rogue Core

[brave hamlet]

I would love to see different species of lootbugs based on their diet

Lootbug dreadnought

[undone hound]

We're Rich!

[brave hamlet]

We're rich

[undone hound]

our wealth is abundant

[silk dome]

The multitude of other games that tried and failed to pull off horror in multiplayer like Friday the 13th or Dead by Daylight also say hi

[calm yoke]

Isn't dbd a big success?

[silk dome]

All I hear about it is how shit the playerbase is

[brave hamlet]

We have aquired a large sum of money in a short window of time

[small bough]

I wouldn't say 'failed'

DBD is extremely successful and still considered a horror game

hard for something to remain a horror game when you've played it for so long

[undone hound]

I have been thinking about this, what if for certain mission objectives, all dwarfs had to get into a room to complete the objective, after bringing all required parts into said room

[silk dome]

I'm sorry, what? Considered horror by whom?

[undone hound]

with a large garage type door that slams shut when all dwarves are inside

[small bough]

Also we're ignoring Phasmophobia was one of the biggest co-op games of the year at launch?

[small bough]

It's literally a horror game

'Dead by Daylight - A multiplayer action survival HORROR game'

sorry I meant DBD

didn't mean DRG in that message disregard

[silk dome]

Ah okay

[lapis stream]

[small bough]

though there's a case to say DRG can be kinda spooky

darkness is in it's name

[silk dome]

But success is beside the point. You can do spooky in multiplayer. For horror you have to get everyone on board. If you want to get scared by the haunted ambience and dark shadows, but your friends are making poop jokes in voice chat, horror isn't gonna work

[small bough]

and people with a fear of dark spaces, bugs and tight spaces will find DRG uneasy

the same way people find it with Subnautica

[median sleet]

"What's in the shadows?"

"The PeepeePoopooman".

[silk dome]

Exactly

[small bough]

but that's not by design, I can make the same excuse for singleplayer horror games

I know because that's literally what I do haha

also Outlast: Trials another co-op horror game

[silk dome]

You can't, since in singleplayer, if you're in the mood to be scared, there's no other people to ruin it for you

[small bough]

and I guess that Texas Chainsaw game

and if all the people in the match with you are in the mood to be scared you don't think it can be a horror experience?

are Haunted Manison rides not actually scary because you go with other people???

is it not a horror movie if you watch it with others?????

[silk dome]

If they are, it can. But you can't rely on randoms for that, just like you can't rely on randoms to be competent players

[median sleet]

Yeah, when a game does something serious most friend groups are gonna do their best to not take anything serious

[silk dome]

You can't design an experience if not everyone on the team wants to have that experience

[small bough]

exactly but that's not the point

because they're still plenty of horror games with co-op

can it be less scary with co-op? sure I can see that

but the same way I've seen games be more uneasy because the people you play with

[silk dome]

Are they as good as SP horror games like Resident Evil or Silent Hill?

I'd argue not nearly

[small bough]

Outlast: Trials yes

and what if I don't find Resident Evil and Silent Hill scary?

are all the people who got scared in Phasmophobia invalidated because it's a co-op game haha

or the numerous clips of that happening in DBD

if there wasn't a market for co-op horror games we wouldn't be getting more every year 😛

[silk dome]

I made it very clear above in which circumstance I think horror in co-op doesn't work.
If you want to twist my words to prove your point, do it without me. I'm disengaging from this conversation

[small bough]

you disregarded games from being horror because they can be played in co-op, which is solely on you

and claiming games failed because you didn't get scared by them

but I'm not saying Resident Evil and Silent Hill are failed games because they didn't scare me 😉

[atomic sequoia]

HORROR GAMES ARE HORROR GAMES

Discussion over

[small bough]

thaaaank you

[worldly niche]

are there any details on how to get into closed alpha or nothing yet?

[broken flame]

This is like DRG chat but there's little threat of getting bonked for off-topic

[elder rapids]

even if they don't scare you it's a blast to pop off the heads in those games

[hollow wolf]

Nothing yet. Expect news abt that when we get close to the closed alpha actually happening

[small bough]

can't deny that

though Resident Evil goes from the least scariest game to the scariest shit of all time in 1 area in Village which I think we all know which one

fun games though

[pure vessel]

Don't think it, don't say it!

[cedar kelp]

skin me this one

[calm yoke]

<@&296918282403840000> c4 this leaf lover

[sleek swallow]

mods be sleeping

[thorn talon]

[calm yoke]

Why do you have a trans knife as well?

[thorn talon]

I do? 👀

oh in my bio

[calm yoke]

Concern increases

[small bough]

it's okay

just let it happen

[torn drum]

DRG is still pretty horror I think that would be weird to debate otherwise

the difference is youre otherwise distracted entirely by how fucked everything is

horror is a rather broad genre too, DRG can easily fit under its own branch

I think its about on par with Subnautica?

you're running around in the dark fighting hordes of echolocating bugs and other fucked up insects while eldritch horrors beyond your understanding come for you in some way

its just negated by things like the characters

i def hate playing DRG alone, makes me feel- well, alone

like in a creepy way

Rogue Core itself has a rather tense horror atmosphere to its announcement

the teaser for S3 was the same way, just anticipating something horrible coming for you

even S4's story missions end with this bleak terrifying eldritch implications as the rock pox are wiping out most of the DRG workforce

its all rather fucked

if anything i dont get why some people think the game is just- silly? It's like they see the dwarves and define the entire game by the funny one-liners. I remember getting so much hate before S3 hit for conceptualizing infected dwarves, very vindicated that the game leaned into the eldritch horror and just made my idea normal lmao

[small bough]

hey I agree on that

games got dark caves with aliens trying to kill you

[torn drum]

idk its a weird discussion, im defensive of it lmao

i just know if been heavily shit on for "ruining the sanctity of a funny dwarf game" with some of my art

like okay dude

ignore rock pox killing like 30% of the work force

Harold?

the fact Hoxxes is probably a living organism in some way????????

pretty fucking scary ass game lmao

[small bough]

yeah DRG is full of it

You have a seemingly endless horde of Glyphids and Macteria which work together to attack in packs

You have caves that are dangerous to inhabit

You have Rival tech which shoot on sight, trick Dwarves to approaching and they're all so 'inhumane' by design

You have Dreadnought eggs which are still extremely tough to kill

You have Rockpox which turns those it infects into almost unkillable shells of themselves

and you have the Ommoran Heartstone which is a very much alive rock that can throw rocks and create pillars to kill you

[velvet marsh]

and don't forget the scariest monster of all... fester fleas. 😱

[lime tapir]

i dont feel that way

not when ur supervised by the BEST company

[torn drum]

Look

Bosco can only make me feel so safe until doing haz 5😭

Bro is just THERE watching me die

[lime tapir]

bosco is mt man

my

[torn drum]

I’d actually love to do a sort of analysis on Hoxxes being alive

I hope Core further infers this

Something worth noting is how Rock Pox functions

Just the fact it’s an infection that very explicitly attacks organic life- and is able to infect and control the Hoxxes environment…

Sus

It’s like Hoxxes catching a cold

Would explain the sudden and volatile reactions of stealing eggs too (like Hoxxes is warning the swarms), it’s like a symbiotic relationship

Hoxxes provides housing for Glyphids and in return they protect the planet

It would also explain why swarms just get called constantly to dig sites?

I mean besides just the gameplay reasons, you could argue it’s like the Glyphids are white blood cells being sent to investigate and handle disturbances

[lime tapir]

didnt the rockpox come from the meteorites

[torn drum]

Ye

why

[lime tapir]

nah they just inhabit all caves

and althey sense danger

so they want to investigate

like what would wasps do if u walked into their nest

[torn drum]

yeah but in a lot of cases there’s nothing to keep drawing in Glyphids

Besides mining

Quietly

again probably just mechanical but I can see that as Hoxxes being like

Uh oh

Something is in me

[lime tapir]

they are just everywhere though

[torn drum]

go my children

[lime tapir]

and they seem to be the apex uhhh creature on hoxxes

[torn drum]

swarms imply something is directing them towards you though

even on missions without directly causing disturbances

the core has gone rogue

It is ALIVE

ooOoOooOooOoOoOo 👻

The core when it has gone rouge the bat

[paper schooner]

😱

[paper schooner]

good guess!

[lime tapir]

i love u guys

[opal sedge]

If rogue core is based around ror2 and gunfire i think ill enjoy it even more

[velvet marsh]

I can't wait to max out my crit chance somehow

Then get the legendary item that makes every crit light the enemies on fire

Then the rare one that doubles all fire damage

I love roguelites

[opal sedge]

Im terrible at survivor games but i really enjoy roguelites

I hope we can mod rogue core like we can with drg.

[sick jetty]

I can't wait to make it go over 9000

[pearl tinsel]

I wonder if there will be looping

[hollow bear]

Boolo bungus

[hollow wolf]

Iirc they said no looping planned right now in the stream. But it's gonna be hard for them to resist everyone begging to be able to loop/play infinitely 😂

[celest viper]

I'm kinda dissapointed that rogue core is also max 4 players as well as drg

[small bough]

yeah it is weird that despite how many years have gone by, the party size doesn't exceed 4

probably because it's easier to balance

[celest viper]

Well obviously.
since there is only 4 classes in drg

But not in rogue core apparently

[small bough]

yeah I meant balance enemies

[celest viper]

Ah got it

[chrome lake]

4 is easier to balance and also since this is a swarm game the more players the bigger the swarm really needs to be which will put additional stress on hardware/network and so can introduce performance issues if it gets to big

[small bough]

I'll like to see larger party sizes

but I can understand why its locked to 4

games like Starship Troopers: Extermination work great with its limit of like 12

[celest viper]

Hmm

At least 6 players would work just fine tho

I guess

[small bough]

perhaps the power of modding will show us

[chrome lake]

Yeah probably be mods to do it

But roguelites are generally unbalanced to some degree so im happy with them sticking with 4 for the main game

[celest viper]

You're not alone at least

It's always good to have someone to rock n stone together

[small bough]

yeah really excited to see what comes of it

would like to see infinite looping

I think Risk of Rain 2 has mastered the format

and DRG could easily take it a step up

[fresh jetty]

Smh when are the devs finally going to realize that they need to focus on making the franchise popular by making the game part of the hot new battle royal craze

100 dwarves in this cave, only 1 gets out

25 teams of 4

I’m also wondering how long it will take for modders to put all the rogue core content into drg lol

[celest viper]

Same here
I saw some screen shots from live stream and I can definitely say that I'm really hyped for it

[celest viper]

Since it's runing with the same engine as drg, it propably won't take that long imo

[velvet marsh]

Make it a mobile game while you're at it, all these silly hats are some lootbox revenue waiting to be profited

[fresh jetty]

Why haven’t we been hired already?

[pearl tinsel]

Idk if devs plan on this atm but any new guns in rogue core do kinda have a chance to be added to drg itself

[fresh jetty]

I don’t think so. As cool as 4th weapons would be, I can fully understand why they wouldn’t want to go through all the work of making mods and overclocks and weapons skins for every one of them again

[small bough]

Yeah I don't think new guns in Rogue Core will be in DRG

weapon balance is more important in a cooperative horde shooter with objectives than a roguelite

[pearl tinsel]

They kinda put themselves in a corner with that

[small bough]

roguelites kinda benefit from quantity

more ways to spice things up

[velvet marsh]

Like, imagine you're in a tough elite deep dive stage 3 and when you go to order a resupply you need to pay like 5 bucks, you're gonna do it to not lose the dive, by Karl I'm so smart

[pearl tinsel]

I mean idk, it's mostly how unique the guns you're using are compared to the other options in the class, I don't think it's totally out of the question to get at least a new primary for each dwarf

[small bough]

I don't think more weapon variety is really what the game needs

Rogue Core being a rogue lite, will likely have alot of weapons

[pearl tinsel]

I mean that's literally all people ever ask for

More guns, more overclocks, etc

[small bough]

yeah and people also ask for a 5th Dwarf and different gadgets

they've even asked for ray tracing

[pearl tinsel]

Yeah, people like new things to use

[small bough]

I have no issue with the weapon variety

[pearl tinsel]

The gimmicky season stuff they focus on every update has consistently been disliked by the community

[small bough]

especially when each weapon has a dozen or so weapon overclocks that spice it up

[pearl tinsel]

Each has 6

[small bough]

and they still change up the guns a decent amount

[pearl tinsel]

Well, 5-7

[small bough]

some more than others

I dont see new guns being added

I see perk system overhaul happening

but I dont see Rogue Core guns being added to DRG

because likely Rogue Core guns will be more 'Military'

and not clunky like the DRG crew

[pearl tinsel]

Dunno, I know devs said don't expect it in the near future but I don't think it would exactly be that hard. They spent like a year or so to churn out the 8 we got in the first two seasons

[patent sluice]

RC guns would be more like actual guns lol

[small bough]

most likely

they're an advanced team, advanced teams get better guns

[pearl tinsel]

Didn't we see a screenshot where somebody picked up the lok? Pretty sure most of the guns from drg will be in rogue core

[small bough]

DRG give the 4 Dwarves shitty guns and the Dwarves themselves upgrade them

[pearl tinsel]

You're kinda just saying stuff dawg

[small bough]

oh I think all the DRG guns will be in Rogue Core

not the other way around

Roguelites have a shit tone of weapons

[pearl tinsel]

Depends on the roguelite

[small bough]

5 different types of assault rifles, 9 different shotguns, 6 different pistols

yeah most roguelites do it

adds to the randomness and RNG

[pearl tinsel]

Either way, having a template for a new one in rogue core would make it easier to add to drg proper

[small bough]

yeah I dont see that happening

because it'll mean every class needs a new gun

and ontop of every cosmetic that already exists

it needs new overclocks

and said weapons will need to be balanced and worth picking

[pearl tinsel]

Most of that is just balancing

[small bough]

oh its balancing

but more stuff you have harder to balance

[paper schooner]

4 is a nice number

[pearl tinsel]

I mean yeah it's a lot of work but I wouldn't mind a couple seasons that are just focused on new guns eventually.

[small bough]

personally I'll pick new missions over anything

[paper schooner]

🙈

[velvet marsh]

I imagine some network shenanigans could start happening if the player count raises a bunch

[small bough]

and my old suggestion was 'more RNG elements'

[tall plume]

[small bough]

so they said fuck that suggestion make a whole new game

[pearl tinsel]

I'd prefer missions more like egg hunt or expedition

[fresh jetty]

so technically Dinko invented rogue core

[small bough]

they created rogue core to spite me

I even asked them to add vampires, and then boom

DRG: Survivor

not quite Vampire but close enough

[fresh jetty]

I am incorporating this into my beleif system

[velvet marsh]

Feel like there's some unpaid royalties that need to be handled here

[fresh jetty]

smh can't believe Dinko is going uncredited for single handedly inventing all the spinoffs

[tall plume]

get back to work miners, you're not being paid by the hour.

[small bough]

Where's my money GSG

will I use it to buy DRG merch

of course

but that's not the point

[pearl tinsel]

You dont pay us at all

[tall plume]

not for chatting in here, that's for sure !

[small bough]

you're not getting paid?

oof do we tell him

[fresh jetty]

I understand the game is still being worked on but I do hope we get more info soon because I'll be honest it's a little hard for me to get hyped when I basically know nothing about the game itself

I am very excited to learn more!

can't really be excited for the nebulous concept of a drg roguelite

[solar sage]

Bro they literally just announced it five days ago

[small bough]

isn't there a closed alpha in Q1?

[pearl tinsel]

We know upgrades are dependant on voting

Which

Bleh

[fresh jetty]

I know, I'm not expecting something next week

by "soon" I mean like, sometime before the end of the year

[small bough]

would like to see an active dev diary on the progress

similar to what DRG did

I like when that happens

[limpid zinc]

DRG... TWO

[fresh jetty]

although I guess it's more likely going to show up at the closed alpha's launch

[limpid zinc]

or more like 1.5

[pearl tinsel]

I know the devs are planning to move to a larger office to facilitate working on two games

[fresh jetty]

yeah I'm also a little hesitant on that

[unique verge]

DRG but GTFO hmmmm

[fresh jetty]

I talked before about griefing possibilities but it could also just slow gameplay down to have a 20 min debate over which to choose

[tall plume]

I'll be hyped regardless 😎

[fresh jetty]

granted, with the one example we got none of the upgrades were bad, so I don't think it's the type of thing where there will be a wrong choice

[pearl tinsel]

Still don't really like it

[hollow wolf]

it's been 5 days

[pearl tinsel]

People should be able to choose their own upgrades to better differentiate players on the team

Speaking of

[sleek swallow]

||I don't like you||

[pearl tinsel]

Didn't ask

[fluid jacinth]

Quite rude :)

[sharp salmon]

Rogue core is pretty fun though (not biased)

[celest viper]

Why not lucky 7

[frigid path]

Can confirm

[pearl tinsel]

If it's so fun why can't we play it yet huh?

[sleek swallow]

you should give me an early access copy so I can also show how much I find it fun (can't be biased)

[pearl tinsel]

Where's that post that has all the early screenshots of rogue core?

[fresh jetty]

yeah just give all of us early access copies so we can all- hey wait a second

[lone cypress]

1999: i didnt know this game was being worked on
2009: oh new game announced i can wait
2023: but this info is already an hour old, where is the new info?

[paper schooner]

There is a big difference between the way we make weapons for DRG and RC. Each DRG weapon has an individual upgrade tree and OCs where as RC weapons rely on external upgrades. This is done in part to make it easier for us to make new weapons in RC. But to move a weapon to DRG would require doing all the extra work that makes DRG weapons so slow do develop. It's not impossible but a weapon already existing in RC will not make the process any faster.

[surreal elm]

wtf are rougue cores are they new items?

oh its an game

[sleek swallow]

read the pinned messages

[fresh jetty]

say the line ser doot!

[sleek swallow]

I already said it

I am replacing pounce (pls don't ban me pounce)

[surreal elm]

k

[fresh jetty]

stole his job... >:(

[lone cypress]

new weapons for rc and at some point new weapons power creep older weapon, you know players, they play favorites

[hollow bear]

Assuming that means the same for DRGS weapons. No taser

[pearl tinsel]

having a finalized model and gameplay mechanics to start from wouldn't speed up the process at all?

[fresh jetty]

honestly that's only like 30% of the work

[lone cypress]

no rammer

[fresh jetty]

then you need to create at least 3 different builds, 5-7 overclocks

[pearl tinsel]

True, but it's a lot better than nothing

[fresh jetty]

tweak up to 15 mods

[pearl tinsel]

More like 12

[small bough]

can be said abotu anything though

and the alternative isn't nothing

[pearl tinsel]

Though in all honesty I'd prefer proper buffs and changes to the weapons that still need improvements before we ever get new guns anyways

[paper schooner]

perhaps we can streamline the process and just pay you in DRG merch? (If we had any)

[celest viper]

how to play rogue core rn:

1. open drg
2. choose driller
3. keep drilling the ground
4. boom! rogue core

[lone cypress]

thanosbalance.gif

[small bough]

I'll agree to that, I'm still waiting for Lootbug plushies to get restocked

[fluid jacinth]

so true

[sleek swallow]

people unfamiliar with game dev guessing how long game dev takes? this is a classic

[paper schooner]

I can try to answer some questions if you have any...

[pearl tinsel]

I'm not guessing at all, it was a question

[tall plume]

It likely did, considering it took 1-2 years of complete work to make DRG reach EA and they're doing this while still working on DRG for Rogue Core

[paper schooner]

That is the plan, yes.

[fringe maple]

no, ive done it before! (made one thing in 2008 in scratch)

[small bough]

What Roguelite games would you said are the main inspirations for how you're developing Rogue Core?

[paper schooner]

Not voting, negotiating who gets what.

[pearl tinsel]

Actually, even though there aren't classes, would there still be separate dwarven characters? Or just a basic joe schmoe for everybody?

[fringe maple]

will there be the laser pointer in rogue core

[celest viper]

any specific information about expenite

[hollow bear]

So that means cards are shared loot in coop? Interesting

[pearl tinsel]

That still sounds.... ehh

[celest viper]

except it's expensive n rare

[small bough]

tastes better than Morkite

[lone cypress]

screenshot looks like "i want this upgrade" with all the heart icons

[celest viper]

mmm worth the risk

[small bough]

couldn't agree more

[fresh jetty]

👀 well if you're offering.... I've heard it mentioned that there are multiple objectives that can be completed, but not all of them are manditory. I'm assuming there is a main "goal" for each stage? Is it essentially structured like a deep dive in the sense that it's back to back missions, but this time there's upgrades as you progress with multiple optional objectives?

[celest viper]

I mean liquid morkite is delightful enough but even better?
can't wait for that

[fresh jetty]

sorry if this was explained somewhere else, but I've had some trouble picking up on the core gameplay loop

[lone cypress]

also weapons seem to have rarities?

[fresh jetty]

I disagree, I feel way better about it now

[celest viper]

like what, fortnite?

[lone cypress]

whats forknife

[paper schooner]

Well, ok, maybe a little bit. But the bulk of the design work is not in the concept but in the balance and build variety. As for art, those frameworks take a lot of time.

[celest viper]

[brave oriole]

Seems fun and interesting, But would require more precise balancing then a separate loot system, but given y'all are GSG I trust you know what you're doing lol

[paper schooner]

you misspelled nerfs 😉

[lone cypress]

dont nerf breach cutter

❤️

[fresh jetty]

nerf every gun

[pearl tinsel]

Coil needs buffs and nerfs

[fresh jetty]

we've all had it too good for too long

[small bough]

fuck nerfing every gun

just remove them

only use Pickaxe

[celest viper]

nerf lootbug

[fresh jetty]

pickaxe only like a real dwarf!

[lone cypress]

i never played oppa neuro toxin payload

[celest viper]

it's too op

[small bough]

DRG cutting costs everywhere they go

first the weapons, then the healthplan

[sharp salmon]

Buff all guns and then mount said guns on the bugs...

[celest viper]

nerf all guns
nerf all enemies

[fringe maple]

biome where the rock is made of guns

[pearl tinsel]

Can we get a big gun attached to doretta?

[fresh jetty]

new rogue core boss confirmed: glyphid with a gun.