questions

[autumn lagoon]

So I'm dumb. Is the new filing good for Steven or nah?

[rugged marten]

try to order non food maybe? (ive never used doordash)

[raw magnet]

Doordash a mmo kickstarter? Guys. Here's the thing. Wait. I have an idea for an MMO.

[swift mauve]

If the game is ever live again, I’ll be waiting in the queue until the server let’s me in

[raw magnet]

Even if it's like 14 years?

[sullen escarp]

i feel like this will be a deleted message soon

[bold halo]

so whats going on with this game now?

no idea what that is

[viral juniper]

People still play EverQuest.

[raw magnet]

Gross!

[pale parcel]

Everyone is wrong, there is 150,000 people alone in this discord alone.

If Steven really cares about the studio, the game and the community. It would be hard but not impossible to get the game back into the light.

A strong community will always be the safest bet over investors. Having a united community that wants what’s best, not just serving self interests will keep a project alive.

As long as we, the community, show a united front that we believe the game is worth continuing and can generate income the game will naturally grow.

Humanity is capable of a lot of things, from the worst you could imagine to the greatest. When humanity gives up is when there is no chance.

[sullen escarp]

you need help

[topaz abyss]

This

[urban sphinx]

Move on child

Exacly act your age ..ppl spent way more than your 40$ and i dont see them being that pathetic

🤣 where i said that? He lied about no investors..but if u think he wasted 10 years to pocket few millions u are delisonal.. u are just way to mad about your $ move on man u have million other games to play

Well u dont buy early access shoes dont u? It was only MMO i wanted to play u think im not mad about it getting fked?... it is what it is those files clerly show steven wasnt the one or atleast only1 one fked up this project? If u think 150mil or how.much they got? Is enough to pay game devs for 10 year? Haha theres a reason even big game companys dont go onto MMOs

[astral falcon]

Do you say that it was a scam ?

[urban sphinx]

@astral falcon Would be pretty bad scam dont u think? 10 years for few millions when u already have deep pockets... its 100% steven fault that he wasnt honest about investors.. but ppl wont invests 100s of milllions and wait 20 years to get it back

[astral falcon]

One thing that I don’t understand is that Steven mentions “the board” but according to the company docs he was alone on the board…

[urban sphinx]

Bro u are 40 and calling a guy asshole,stupid 100 times over 40$ ...shows how smart u are calling it a scam🤡 10 years of spending for devs and all that scam would be if he relesed game 1 month after exensive packs were bought and thats it ... steam sales were nothing or what u think they earned billions on this game?

[urban sphinx]

It was on earlier posts... they agree to not show investors on board since it was said there was no investory and both sides agreed its better that way...i dont see a reason why would steven bring all those things ups in court if it was his wrong doings

[drowsy delta]

Bro is 40 years old crying in a discord server asking a director of a company directly who’s currently in a ongoing court battle if he can have $40

[pale parcel]

People will be upset regardless of truth, lies or deceit.

They will blame the first person thrown into the crossfire without regard to what damage their words hold. The world is dark and those who feed into that dark let the very people who did them wrong succeed.

Those without conviction follow the heard.

[desert ivy]

Scars of Honor is omega slop. Only rtarded WoW babies have any interest in it (and will quickly quit as they do with every MMO)

[primal steeple]

you really love the potential of starting a revolution in here 🤣

[desert ivy]

If your definition of good is whether a game is F2P then my condolences on your mental deficiencies

[vast crescent]

Actually i hate WoW but plan to test Scars since it intrigues me from what I see. But that has nothing to do with my love for what originally I thought Ashes' would had become. I am more of an old school EQ/FFXI type player

[mighty vector]

Hi everybody, do i have a way to have a refund if i bought the game from intrepid website (before steam launch) ?
Thx in advance

[oblique knoll]

Anyone who doesn’t trust Steven should leave the community.
If you don’t trust anything Steven does, there’s no reason to stay active in the community.

[pale parcel]

The heard always chooses the winning side.

They possess the desire that they will get it their way and lack the strength to stand by it until the end.

All those who possess the faith and strength to stand by their convictions can do is shine the light to keep the dark away. All we can do is stand together. Pay no mind to those who lack faith and want to drag others under with them.

[ionic gale]

@next summit 2 minute slow mode here. Much better than 6 hours, but still kinda disappointing

[oblique knoll]

The board is nothing short of a band of robbers, attempting to steal Steven’s lifelong hard work.
They are using despicable underhanded tactics to seize the fruits of his labor.
Such immoral conduct should never be tolerated, no matter which country or region it is.

[astral falcon]

First time in my life I pay 120€ to be part of a discord community without playing the game

[pale parcel]

Darkness will always attempt to swallow the light, only when we lose the strength to fight is when the darkness wins.

We must be strong during these trying times. We must do our part if we are called upon.

[primal steeple]

why did you pay if you didn't play? 😄

[oblique knoll]

For love and peace.

[primal steeple]

then it's your first love and peace that you've paid $120

[oblique knoll]

I have four accounts to play Ashes of Creation.
Four accounts, for love and peace.

[primal steeple]

WTH 😄 i'm 50-50 here. on one side I'm like, why the fk would you buy 4 alpha accounts but at the same time i'm actually feeling sorry, that's quite a lot of money. but I would assume with 4 accounts you've actually play for a bit, right?

[oblique knoll]

It is worthwhile to spend some money for love and peace. Money is meant to be used in the first place.

[primal steeple]

true. it could've been the best money you've spent for your gaming time

[oblique knoll]

I go fishing in the game every day, and it makes me feel really relaxed.

[mighty vector]

anyone can tell me plz?

[steel adder]

When this game comes back how much do I have to pay for the unbannable rocket powered flying pack donkey? https://klipy.com/gifs/solar-powered-swinging-panda--k01KQF05CCM0DKN1YTM45WWDH1F

[opaque vigil]

You guys are still playing using steam or the luncher ? I don't seems it can be downloaded from steam again anymore no ? Only people who still have it installed can start it ?
This charts make me sad

[lament breach]

Quick question, considering everything that I see flying around now, what happened to: “we aren’t governed by greedy ‘corporate overlords’… I’m funding the project, so no investors or a board to answer to, no publishers to appease”

When did this change, and is there anyway I could’ve been aware of it, or did I simply fail to do my due diligence?

[ionic gale]

From what we are told...

In May 2024, Dawson steals the company and has to create a board. So Dawson puts himself and his friend on it.
The Board made their own rules and had Steven hide the fact there was a board or else he didn't get paid.

[plush bane]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-explaining-gif-13403485

[hot vault]

(He lied) but it be like that, every business needs investors… Steven would’ve had to be rich as shit to bankroll the game for a decade+

[slate topaz]

The world doesn't work that way

[swift mauve]

That’s a long time to sit in a queue

[oblique knoll]

The Earth has always operated by the first iron law of nature: the law of the jungle.Even the eldest son of the mighty world's richest man Ma could have his younger brother taken away."

[hot vault]

People feel safe in their little echo chambers haha I’m just sticking around to see if they lied and screwed us or lied and we both got screwed lol

[crystal quail]

good and all
though in the end, sea server is highly unlikely

[limpid wraith]

I kinda enjoy this super slow moving train wreck. Even if they do get the game back somehow it's going to be so out of date lol.

And just look at Star citizen. Still a husk of a game

[modest basalt]

Hey guys just heard about this new MMO! Looks really cool from the videos I saw! Is there an estimated release date? Thanks!

[north citrus]

poor lad

[brisk sparrow]

@idle siren will the game ever go back into active development?

[languid forum]

Steven is fighting hard while I play on the whitelist only server for 100 dollars per month

[normal quest]

As an accountant, if what Steven is saying is true, he got hosed and deserves his day in court. I was an early backer and really hope AoC is playable one day. Stripping a man's dream away is just evil, I hope the truth prevails in court.

[cursive bone]

It sucks that the game just shut down.
My last couple of hours in the game were spent sport fishing and some absolute clowns with 500 hours into the game kept jumping on peoples boats and annoying them, to later follow me all the way to the vendor, spamming chat and trying to get random mobs to attack me. For almost 3 hours total they followed me around lmfao. It does feel sweet that all of the time they spent on their account was completely wasted. Deplorable human beings fr

[keen viper]

@idle siren I've read through all the exhibits and declarations. It's obvious the board are the worst kind of people. But you invited them into the company in the first place. You owe everyone an apology, the whole point of Intrepid was that it was NOT supposed to be run by these evil corporate "overlords". Will you apologize?

[north citrus]

you play games in order to Kill and waste your time ,i mean whats the point?you spent and you enjoyed n now it's gg for decades

[cursive bone]

I dont use games as an outlet to be an absolute aßßhat to people i dont know, bro

[twilit tide]

All of you who participated and profited from this scam deserve testicular cancer.

[brave crater]

Did you not just read the announcement?

[twilit tide]

If anyone still believes this isn't a perfectly premeditated scam, and still believes anything those who have perpetrated this scam say, then they have a serious problem.

[steel adder]

I had 500 hours in the game because after Steam refused my refund for sitting on the launcher for 8.5 hours on release, I left the launcher open to stay up to date and then they would not refund me cause I had 500 hours in the game in under a month. :/

[orchid bloom]

game had great potential, was in the wrong hands unfortunately.

[rugged hill]

when will this game come back

[wicked bay]

@steel adder I had 400 or something and I just kept trying and on maybe the 20th one I got a refund

[frail sapphire]

Hii anything new with court?

[steel adder]

At this point I am waiting for the court. If the game comes back I’ll keep it.

[frigid seal]

anyone trying to claim money back is a an absolute cretin - just leave the server now

[tepid spire]

are servers still up?

[limber bear]

Can't tell if trolling or serious. Servers havent been up for awhile

[wicked bay]

I stay on here to see what side tried the scam me

[north citrus]

tried? like did you get you money back?

[wicked bay]

yeah on steam

[wicked bay]

dont request a refund go to ask question about product and ask for refund there

[topaz junco]

man ive been asking for a refund since feb and they deny me. i see people with 300 hrs getting refunds smh

[rapid olive]

same, I bought the game for myself and 2 friends, out $150 🙄

[maiden drum]

@idle siren
I know at this point its kinda irrelevant and maybe you don't even remember or cant answer.
But in phase "3.5", or EA, we had some questionable system designs:

• High material cost / a lot of matts required to build items
• Crates were insanely profitable
• Drops were non existent

This basically made the game a farming / crafting simulator and severly reduced the friction.
Why were those choices made?
I didn't play P2 but I was told that crafting was good in that phase and there was a lot of friction due to drops and caravans.
Biggest issue of P2 was apparently just the TTK, so why not have the crafting of P2 + TTK of EA.
Or at least the material ratio of P2.

Why were those choices made? It was insanely grindy with no friction (still played over 800 hrs of it)

[lofty fog]

@idle siren do we get the game now or not?

[tropic forge]

Hell yeah Steven. Keep fighting

[opal hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/no-one-cares-i-dont-care-idc-nobody-cares-gif-8737514

[ebon bone]

Perhaps Ashes of Creation will rise out of the Ashes like a phoenix

[crimson tinsel]

Why I cant login? I need to pay dues...

[lofty fog]

I only care about this for an answer. Do we get the game again or not and whassup with the monthly payments and stuff? Like ngl, i need my spider mount back cus it was the only silent mount

[steady jasper]

I regret not getting a steam refund

[round lava]

cool, where servers

[lethal thorn]

steam denied mine said too many hours played XD

[small lagoon]

Give it a few they are patching it with some bug fixes

[remote dragon]

Can we start a class action lawsuit against both sides to force refunds to be implemented for this bs? 😅

[short terrace]

Wait the game is still up? Like running and playable? I haven't been paying attention to that side

[fiery zealot]

Same here. Cleared that via Paypal and get my Money back. I get blocked Four weeks on Dream then. Can‘t just nix new Games…don‘t care for that

[quartz basin]

@idle siren congratulations 🎉👏🥳🎉

[coral portal]

I mean if everything goes as the creator wants wouldnt the game be relaunched?

[small lagoon]

I am just providing false hope sorry

[autumn trout]

Still want my moneys back

[sharp bolt]

When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then you're money will return, and not before.

[mighty minnow]

So like what happened to the game now

[spiral idol]

steven should start a gofundme to help with legal fees

[astral rock]

LETS FUGGING GOOOOO

[autumn trout]

W reference

[proud ridge]

?

[faint crescent]

so does this mean we can play again?

[quasi latch]

wait ashes coming back? 🤣

[small lagoon]

Steam should provide this as a reply to the refund requests

[dire briar]

Are we back

[shell dew]

Will the servers be up again? I cant wait to play again

[quartz basin]

Bruh stop crying about ur 40 bucks. Lmao. U know this is the best game u ever played

[faint crescent]

is it possible to refund the $100 paid through the start up shit?

[vague sparrow]

At this point I believe this is all about Steven saving face and that's about it. RIP Ashes

[tawny stump]

i still think AoC will raise from ashes , matter of time , thats why i didnt ask my money back i still believe.

[spiral idol]

aoc will be fine as long as there's really no board next time

[meager echo]

Maybe we actually sell to riot so we can play the game?

[quasi latch]

same here of course not because i am too lazy as i bought my pack years ago

[random summit]

That'd be a funny way of getting the riot mmo

[small lagoon]

And definitely not because I bought the game years ago and forgot I bought it so never even played it to begin with

[tawny stump]

i got it from steam , played 500 hours , know people that played more then me and askd for money back 🤡

[quartz basin]

Let's goooo !!! @idle siren

[analog sentinel]

Still 5 more cases to go. AoC is not back so don't go getting your hopes up

[meager echo]

Imagine getting a refund to rebuy the game when it comes back to life 🤡

[peak raft]

High strength copium

[tawny stump]

hahahahahhahaha this will be so hilarious

[mellow isle]

Sell high buy low

[quartz basin]

Hahha.. I'm sure there will be many!!

[restive crown]

Ngl I honestly don't get the refund demands from Kickstarter people. Not in a "leave the corporation alone" way but in a "Kickstarter pledges are DONATIONS" way. Like seriously, did anyone actually read the fine print on Kickstarter?

Now the people that bought it on steam, they get the refund. They actually bought a product, not a donation with the possibility of receiving a product eventually.

[candid mica]

@idle siren what are the chances of us being able to play again?

[torpid raft]

are the servers still up?

[tawny stump]

we will never have this answer from steven i guess :I

[granite loom]

Okay so are we able to play the game when we couldn't get the refund?

[restive crown]

Maybe a third of the games I've backed on Kickstarter failed. Sometimes the dev just bit off more than they could chew, sometimes life just throws a curve ball. One game I backed had a lead dev die of a heart attack half way through the production schedule. Sometimes life sucks, but Kickstarter is a donation platform, not an investment platform or a store, you're not getting a product, you're getting a promise that, if they manage to make the product you might (depending on your backer tier) receive the product.

[misty sluice]

Huh

[candid mica]

pretty much

[quartz basin]

Tired of all the MMO slop out there !!! Make Ashes Great again @idle siren 💪

[wild swallow]

Funny how after all this 🤣 im still not missing out of this game lol

[shy crater]

So.... AOC will resurrected or stay dead?

[mellow isle]

This is all a marketing campaign. Ashes of Creation must first become ashes to rise into creation

[tidal kraken]

pro tactics

[random thistle]

Awwwwww yeeeee

[sinful wolf]

Its a win but probably still years before its back sadly 🙁

[proud hinge]

Ok but Steam is a platform for selling products not investments…. I bought the game on Steam and it’s gone immediately

[urban cargo]

Anyway i'm totally with you Steven. Best regards from France

[merry zinc]

guys please where can i farm grave lily? i need to be ready

[restive crown]

Scroll up.
Steam buyers should absolutely get their refund, which does seem to be why steam froze their funds, though I suspect that Valve is going to need to wait for the courts to conclude this whole cluster fuck before they can disburse it back to players, depending on how much was still in steam holding.

[split sinew]

I strongly believe that if the court case is won, Steven will do his best to deliver what was promised. I actually believe the guy.

[torn sierra]

Game was not even good enough for all this

[void burrow]

It’s a matter of taste — some people tried it and left, while others still can’t get into any other game because Ashes set the bar too high for them.

[split parrot]

whens the next kickstarter?

[sly monolith]

I’m not refunding the game. Waited 10 years idgaf how long or if ever I gotta wait

[dim shuttle]

@idle siren hopefully that means Kickstarter backers get refunded. Since the game likely isn’t ever going to happen, that’s the only justice left for the backers

[opal stone]

What do you mean? He was unfairly outed from the company. The investors should pay your kickstarter refund, not Steven

[restive crown]

Lmao no. That money went into office rent and employee wages. It's gone. Kickstarter is a donation platform. You're never seeing that money again.

[pale parcel]

Those who lack strength in the face of adversity will not reap the benefits of success.

Those who lack conviction in the face of struggle will never lead.

Those who lack faith in the face of failure will always follow.

Those who lack unity in the face of darkness will always be alone.

[storm atlas]

[dim shuttle]

Yeah, when did I say Steven should pay it? I’m responding to Steven’s latest update. He likes to say he will fight to make things right and there are only 2 ways things will be “right”: refund backers or finish the game. I don’t know how the latter could ever be possible now.

[wanton abyss]

[pale parcel]

As long as we stay strong and unite the latter will always be possible.

As long as we shine the light, it will always grow, but with it so does a darkness that wishes to swallow our light.

We must stand with strength and conviction, say what you mean and mean what you say.

Never lose hope, never lose faith. It costs you nothing to stand tall against the common enemy we all face.

[restive crown]

theoretically once the courts establish fault that would open things up for suing for compensatory damages and legal fees.

Quite the longshot still but probably the best bet for things as they are now.

[nova vault]

The fuck is the tldr in the news channel?

[pale parcel]

The light has won the first battle against the darkness.

[harsh ferry]

I’ve been in the discord for months , still can’t post anywhere but here and new members ? What gives ?

[restive crown]

My only real question right now is... Where tf did 'The Board' come from?

[glad gate]

Wasnt steven, kinda been proven that he was sole member of the board? Im confused as to who or what is/was/were this "board"

[tawny stump]

i believe that too, but will take time to get every dev at work but for sure oneday will happen

[restive crown]

Him and his husband was the CFO if I recall correctly, but it's hard to find any solid info yet.

[glad gate]

Thanks. Theres s bunch of things going around and thats something i recalled that was noteable. Cheers for the correction

[restive crown]

I mean I'm thirsty for answers too. Hopefully we start to get some facts from the court docs soon.

Is there any news on a timeline for Discovery?

[glad gate]

I dont think so with how many messed up phases its seemed to split into..

[chilly flax]

By the time all this legal shit mulls over, nobody will be interested.

[restive crown]

Hey all the MMOs I play are old and bloated with mechanic creep and dozens of special event currencies. I'll absolutely be interested in a new MMO when I'm retired.

[chilly flax]

Willingly admit to a shit choice of MMOs. Sense of irony i guess?

[restive crown]

MMOs get bloated with age. As they add more content old stuff falls onto disrepair. Pick any MMO older than a decade and try out their new player experience I can almost guarantee it's going to be shit.

[white panther]

Soooo can I get my refund yet? Or is that still not a thing.

[chilly flax]

Newer player base is more prone to mental fatigue and instant gratification so I get it.

[forest hare]

If you bought it through steam and played it for more than 2 hours you're prob never seeing that money, lol. If you donated through Kick, then tough shit. It's a donation.

EDIT: I think some people have received refunds through Steam, but a LOT more have been denied. So try a ticket if you haven't, but I highly, highly doubt you'll receive an earnest response. Worse so if you purchased through the site, definitely not getting that back 😭

[chilly flax]

Also MMOs are prone to insatiable demands from investors. Just watched an interview with Jeff Kaplan on OW. Sad story but when you push out shit thats already shit and not polished, what do you expect the reaction from the player base but to cry and complain.

[ripe kernel]

Nah, I know several people that will be interested. There will still be huge demand for this game

[chilly flax]

Hopium dude. This game isnt salvagable and this statement will age like fine wine

[restive crown]

That's not the point at all.
As an MMO ages it gains tech debt in the codebase, old low level maps fall into low priority and small bugs start to build up since the pop there is small anyway and focus is spread thin across increasingly granular end game activities. Old players tend to not notice since they are usually in high level maps doing content that receives the highest priority from the devs.

Ironically, the best and longest lasting MMOs often tend to be the ones that can live off subscription fees and focus more on emergent gameplay, and the signs of aging tend to accelerate when a game goes free to play as dev focus is diverted from actual playable content to monetization like cash shop items or exclusive account benefits.

[empty lintel]

@idle siren The day before this court case came out I bought 2 skins. It would be really INHUMANE and CRUEL if my purchases weren't refunded. If not then please make sure that money gets spent on lubricant. Check a brand called Backdoor Batonics.

[ripe kernel]

I don't even care about the money. I just want the game. I'm holding onto hope they re-boot it up after this is all done. And so what if it's hope? The game is 100% salvageable. It just depends if they salvage it or not.

[chilly flax]

Hopium

[ripe kernel]

Good one. You said the thing.

[chilly flax]

I mean this whole board wears it on their sleeves...So🤷‍♂️

[restive crown]

There is a minimum level of hopium required to be sold on a Kickstarter project regardless of what it is. Trying to use it as an insult is kinda tone deaf tbh, given you're in the exact same boat as everyone else here. It's like someone on the deck of the Titanic mocking the other guests for buying their tickets.

[rugged hill]

when can I buy this game

[ocean saddle]

[lethal terrace]

Steven is winning and winning.

[storm atlas]

[teal junco]

holy crap

[regal kettle]

im so hype for ashes when does it come out offically?

[north citrus]

i just woke up and it's 6:43 AM and you know what i was dreaming about? i was playing Ashes of Creation with my friends , Now that I read this news, my dream has been interpreted.

[rich token]

If Steven and the court will work together, they need to give another 100 mil $ to bring the main team back.
If Ashes will stay under team, idk where they will found fresh money for developing, another investors know everything about this story.

[onyx stump]

touch some grass plox

[fierce anvil]

Are the servers going back up? Where can you play atm?

[quartz basin]

@idle siren are you allowed to give us future plans since you kicking butt in court ?

[ripe kernel]

Literally just ran up to a bunch of yellow flowers on the ground in another MMO and was disappointed they weren't harvestable daffodil.

[native pagoda]

Grow up.

[versed fossil]

[oblique knoll]

End the lawsuit early, launch the servers early. I want to log in and go fishing in the game. I can hardly wait any longer.

[regal viper]

sameeeeeeee we waiting

[oblique knoll]

Both sides hold each other’s fatal secrets and are forced to a ceasefire: Steven has solid evidence hanging over him for misappropriating public funds, while the board is tainted by illegal loan sharking. If they keep fighting relentlessly, neither side can cash out. The lawsuit dismissal is simply the result of a damage-control negotiation.
A spoils-sharing deal has replaced a court ruling:
The April 30 lawsuit withdrawal means both sides have reached a restructuring of interests. Steven stays on as the public face to appease the community, while the board retreats behind the scenes waiting to cash out.
A big play to milk the player base:
Next, they will hype up their “legal victory”, restart Alpha 2 or launch new pre-sales, using fresh player money to cover old bad debts.
The nature of the game has fundamentally changed:
Game development is no longer the goal — capital unloading is. The core team has already disintegrated, and the so-called “revival” is little more than a well-packaged financial rescue operation.

[plush bane]

https://tenor.com/view/chatgpt-jarvis-iron-man-unsure-gif-758258540099951503

[spark willow]

nice victory grazz @idle siren

[wintry shard]

So we back in track or what?

[quartz basin]

@idle siren it's the weekend bro. Give us some more good news!!!

[grand rock]

[rich token]

It's crazy, but after all those hype over Ashes, online numbers will be much much higher than before

[drowsy delta]

Why you still here then 😉

[rich token]

When court and Steven will make a new deal, we will see fresh release in Autumn I hope.

[quartz basin]

Haha . We all know he's here for the same hope. He's just too proud and full of shit to admit

[shell void]

Have tou SEEN the political garbage? Believing Steven can turn the game around is nothing compared to the lies and slanders going on there.

[prime plume]

can I have my money back?

[glad jacinth]

So are we coming back?

[orchid bloom]

so wait, dudes still rich from players support and theres still no game but a bunch of legal bullshit. give people there money back fudgepacker

[marble glen]

what did you buy it with?

[glad jacinth]

well legally it may look like the vast majority of people were miss lead. Creators jumped the shark and made videos for clicks. If the documentation is legit it shows that there was mass collusion to bankrupt and bring Steven and Ashes down.

[turbid holly]

@idle siren are you able to share any insights as to what you had planned for ashes, or is that all being kept tight lipped for now? Mainly curious on what plans you had with sport fishing, as I really got hooked and was excited to see what was in store in terms for vessels, fish, and possibly even a kraken?

[prime plume]

the game

[hallow badger]

what is the latest news about this game ?

[edgy wren]

too lazy to look at the news section?

[visual forum]

It’s in a court battle apparently .

[hidden lance]

So, is there ANY chance at all of ashes of creation still becoming a game?

[grand rock]

@idle siren can you please rescue us? watching scars testing, and nothing against them, or the studio, but it ain't it. we need you to be victorious and lead us to the promised land!

[gray dirge]

Didn't Aoc get removed from steam I see its back and install button

[ornate juniper]

You can no longer buy it on steam, but if you own it you can still install it. Then not play it because there are no servers.

[storm atlas]

[paper plinth]

[regal viper]

Waiting for it a nice comeback

10 usd sub per month ... company run game run best game of history let be Honest most mmo are bullshit nothing compair to ashes maps, graphic gameplay and all sooo time to do it guy

[old summit]

is there any chance it can make acome back after all this mess is cleared up ?

[sick trout]

There is always a chance for anything, just keep hoping and find things to do while you wait to see if you hoped hard enough

[timid rapids]

[quartz jungle]

Even if it comes back it's a loooong way from being done. The steam release was full of placeholders. Entire systems were placeholders. The employees have all moved on and got new jobs, so there will be no continuity. It would likely be very difficult to pick up close to where the company left off

[fair drum]

That is definitely my main concern about potential return of the game.
Even if money and willing is back, all employees have moved on (successfully for them i hope ❤️ ) and it will be impossible to have new devs make significant progress on a half-baked product for years. No solutions to this issue unfortunately 🙁

[north citrus]

are you Indian i read your writing with Indian accent not willingly tbh

[regal viper]

Nope

[dry raptor]

When do i get my refund

[gray pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[vague flint]

A well written out request to steam might get you a proper refund but it's also possible it won't. Depends on who handles your case. You can look up other people who got a refund and use their scripts via steam to maybe get yourself a refund too!

[north citrus]

so what you guys thinking about gettings servers back online? are they going to attack Iran or Orange is a salty fruit that you are going to pay the pope in order to get in Taxi without pulling the bears in SB need Cleric 7/8

[sudden terrace]

i want my money back

[proud ridge]

stop smoke dude

[upper ridge]

I guess my question for Stephen would be, what's the ideal outcome of these court cases, and should that come to pass, what's the plan for Ashes from there.

[ocean saddle]

[ocean saddle]

[ocean saddle]

[ocean saddle]

[ionic gale]

I miss Toast and Plannindorf

[ocean saddle]

[quartz coral]

[ionic gale]

Where do I start this quest
( Reward is Kirin Mount )

[ocean saddle]

[ocean saddle]

[terse beacon]

[ocean saddle]

[versed fossil]

[short spade]

[inner oyster]

[stark sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-cat-eating-cat-funny-cat-gif-4777984924671153763

[ocean saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/gangnam-style-cope-gif-26427020

[true stag]

[ocean saddle]

[ocean saddle]

[solar basalt]

[proper crown]

[north citrus]

what's news ?

[versed hatch]

Sadly nothing yet

[quasi sedge]

@idle siren yo quick 3 questions :

• how long will you keep fighting with court?

• how long will this game go on Beta / Alpha Testings?

• when will you understand that after early access and all the drama about this game, not even 10% of players will ever come back, and I wonder where will you find new developers that "might trust" your words about continueing this game?

[primal steeple]

idk where you got the 10% of players analytics. the only estimation one could make now is the number of users still in this discord, but that's not accurate. There are also plenty of talented devs out there wanting to evolve and also get the paycheck.

[fair drum]

Not Steven ofc but answering for obvious ones

• It is impossible to say this now, between 1 and 5 years ? Before end of this year is delusional (except if arrangment is found, is it common in USA justice ?)
• Waaay too early to answer this, first step is to retrieve game in the same state it was left. Alpha (EA) was supposed to last for at least 6 months, probably more.
• Most players have a job and don't care about drama, it's just forever-unemployed "content creators" trying to find their life meaning in others people's work. Haters and ignorants talk louder but anyone with basic notions of work understands the value of this project.
  TBH, if all those haters refuse to play this game because "nefasq and asmondgold told us Steven is bad guy", this game is going to have the best community ever 😅
  Developers is a real issue though. Not because of trust (especially in current market) but previous developers won't wait forever before finding a new job and new developers will have at least a year, if not more, to catch up with existing code base.

[wide lichen]

[elder tinsel]

''' not even 10%'' ? the vast majority are looking for a new, different mmorpg all along that they had found in Ashes, an example even was this horrible game Scars of Honor, think even that not 10% came back and most who always spoke badly about Ashes were always playing double, myself I have a friend who spoke badly but only slept 4 hours a day, anyway if Steven manages to get back with Ashes I’m sure there will still be a lot of players to play, player really doesn’t care if he has an investor or if he has that or that he really wants it is just playing something that really enjoys...

[ocean saddle]

[primal talon]

as one of those playing other games... i would come back to ashes when/if redone. would you prefer everyone cry and lay down never to game again?

[elder tinsel]

review and understand xD

[ocean saddle]

[honest reef]

Got milk?

[ocean saddle]

[quaint forge]

I couldn't refund.. and I enjoyed the game. I would totally play again if it is available again.

[ocean saddle]

[ionic gale]

[ocean saddle]

[manic trench]

Poop

[void burrow]

[wicked bay]

❌ 👎 🙅

[celest patio]

<@&542059693779058748> Not sure this belongs here

[velvet pulsar]

Are the severs still up?

[steel adder]

https://klipy.com/gifs/marm-marms--k01KR1E512N66RZEX5RQHSTX8KX

[languid forum]

This game was goated my wallet is ready Steven come back to us

[round belfry]

another kickstarter soontm

[onyx schooner]

So, legal jibber jabber aside.. What is the probability of getting Ashes back into dev mode & getting the band back together?

[inner oyster]

@sullen escarp i got to play 2 days with this beauty before the disaster my bard was slapping so hard

[sullen escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/jeffrey-tambor-psych-why-do-you-hurt-me-why-do-you-hate-me-hurt-gif-14210596291887851904

[unreal oasis]

i was literally just talking about this, i only had epic but had just made it too 🙁

[brisk sparrow]

Monsters and Memories is the next MMO island

[ocean saddle]

[icy basin]

That’s the book I was saving funds and mats for before the collapse. I wanted my Bard to be a buff master lol

[inner oyster]

One day we will get you there 🫠

[icy basin]

Meh, I’m just happy I got to enjoy the ride with Genesis when I did

[upbeat latch]

My master crafter dwarf named Dunzledorf was working on a majestic piece before the disaster. 😭

[golden bridge]

Sold my full set of gear for nudes. Was worth it in the end

[abstract root]

Someone ban this idiot

[lethal drift]

<@&542059693779058748> 🙁

[woven kettle]

👀

[ocean saddle]

[ocean saddle]

[scarlet sparrow]

This shit's mad funny and I am just dying to see where this road will lead to

[ocean saddle]

[dry raptor]

In all honesty I was just being a smart ass Ive been a backer for a while. I am not seeing a refund anytime soon or ever.

[sinful yoke]

God dam i wanna play this game man this court is draining it win so i can play again ..

[vague flint]

Don't hold your breath. You're not playing anytime soon.

[oblique knoll]

Is there no one paying attention anymore? There are barely any updates. This is pretty concerning.

[vale solar]

Steven posted the most recent win in court in the news section https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/270797463907074048, they're waiting on legal garben and the next court date, this won't be a short thing

[indigo dock]

What hapening with this game on the end?

[manic light]

Well same as always we dpnt have game, waiting to see if in 2 y we have smth to play

[vernal trail]

Any new news about ashes?

[ocean saddle]

[dry raptor]

Honestly you probably have a better chance of winning the lottery than ever playing this game again.

[quartz basin]

[fringe root]

Game had no end game anyways 🤷‍♂️ said it from the beginning

[stone geyser]

It's an MMO, bro. They don't end.

[split patio]

if ashes doesn't come back im killing myself live on twitch

[floral furnace]

Come on, fools, trust with your eyes closed...

[jaunty sorrel]

Is game dead

[long quartz]

Go play Pax Dei. It has a lot of what ashes had

[stone geyser]

Isn't that an afk game?

[long quartz]

No, it’s a mmorpg

[desert ivy]

That's giga bait, Pax Dei is beyond garbage.

Unless you like building houses which is all it really offers. The combat is diabolically dogshit

[split patio]

its ok i prefer gw2

[stone geyser]

If I want to build houses I'll play Valheim.

[hallow harbor]

Have you guys seen the stuff about spirit air 2.0? What if we all just banded together and bought ashes for the people by the people 😂
I'm kidding.. some of you paid too much already

[minor lily]

What a joke this turned out to be

[icy basin]

Shafted in what way?

[hasty hemlock]

will Steven win The Court and start to work on game again ? anyone still have hope guys ?? 🥹

[oblique knoll]

Justice prevails.
The brave are invincible.

[uneven mulch]

good to know I have a place to go whenever I'm feeling too happy, just click on ashes chat. Balances it out

[celest patio]

Honestly that feels like the easy part, rebuilding trust in the project will probably be the hard one… But if community keeps supporting him I am confident he can manage. At least he tries his best.

[oblique knoll]

Steven treats the company's funds as his own, leading to total financial chaos. The board of directors regards all of the company’s assets as their personal spoils, trying to gain huge profits with minimal effort. Both sides are equally flawed. Players tend to side with Steven, after all, the board knows nothing about game development and only cares about lining their own pockets.
Seize the time to sit down and talk things over. There is no conflict that cannot be resolved through negotiation. After all, even a German-born person can become the US President. Shake hands and make peace—let everyone profit together. Going it alone will never lead to long-term success. I’d advise you not to reject a reasonable

[visual forum]

Well the German born person, would have to be born to U.S. citizens…such as if the parents were over seas due to military deployment.

[warm remnant]

you mean the game that was still in development and getting their basic systems working and fleshed out, didn't have any endgame?!

almost like they hadn't begun fleshing out the mid or end game or even story because the games functions were still being made, tested, and refined.

no endgame on something in alpha is such a stupid nothing burger excuse of a complaint.

[outer bough]

so when do we get our beetle?

[cobalt aspen]

Where is my money?

[scenic blaze]

is the game even still up

[lethal drift]

no and it s the tank's fault
it s always the tank's fault

[stone geyser]

Servers were up until the end of february, then they went down. There was a brief period of time when the servers were up and none of the mobs would move, which was pretty awesome for exploring higher level zones as long as you didn't aggro ranged mobs. Spent the last month exploring the desert and riverlands that I never got to see because I lived in Vhal.

[little drum]

Komt er ooit weer een leuke MMO want die Farever shit is oprecht voor flikkers

[stone geyser]

You sound a lot like The Swedish Chef Muppet.

[lofty vector]

Define a “basic” system.

The game had its flaws but the game was way past “basic” systems development.

At least be fair in your arguments.

[oblique knoll]

Hardly anyone is active in this community anymore, and there isn't much attention paid to this game. It's really a shame.

[warm remnant]

I don't mean basic as in the systems to let the game run. I mean basic as in the actual components of the game. We only had access to half of each classes kits, rudimentary node and trading systems and some basic content that was still being refined and fleshed out or fine-tuned.

How can there be an end game if our characters are locked at midgame levels and the mechanics and systems they're testing are all the early to midgame things. They hadn't even started touching any late game stuff because they still needed to finish developing and then refining the core components of the game.

[meager cedar]

Well as of now there will never be an endgame. So why are you both debating over nonsense? Spend time with your friends and family. If the game comes back woohoo if not o well move on.

[primal steeple]

why are you debating what other 2 ppl on the internet are debating? just go outside, spend time with friends and family.

[lofty vector]

Just because we didn’t have them doesn’t mean they weren’t being worked on. There were 200 developers on this game.

I’m glad you clarified on end-game stuff though, we were only given 25 levels. There were things in game that were over level 30.

To each their own, I believe the game was making good progress and you believe it wasn’t.

[sharp topaz]

hi

[warped mural]

Когда игру продолжат допиливать ?

Стиве , давай игру продолжишь делать , играть не во что.

Хорошая игра. Под суетись там и продолжай пилить проект )

[warm remnant]

At what point did I ever say the game wasn't making good progress? All I said is we had no mid to end game content yet, because they were still implementing the basic features and refining them.

[south portal]

so whats the status of this game and the lawsuits surrounding it? Cause my wife and I bought this game ($200 down the drain) and either want our money back, or the ability to continue playing. Its looking like were getting neither.

[forest hare]

Game is caput until further notice, probably a few years. As for the lawsuit, may 19th is the next hearing for a receiver iirc. Unless something has happened in-between that changed dates or something.

[desert ivy]

That's been changed, the hearing date is now June 11th

[zinc ivy]

probably has been answered.. but im $450 in the hole with like 2 hours of gameplay. I bought into the game in 2021. So did 3 of my friends.

Is there any hope we get any money back what so ever? or is our money full gone

[tawny lion]

Dead game is dead, dead^2 😂

[forest hare]

What happened?

[zinc ivy]

Doesn't really answer my question. Do I have to speak in tongues or what

@idle siren I really supported your vision from the jump. I had 20+ people purchase ashes through my affiliate link. I vouched for years for this game on stream to hundreds of people. I live paycheck to paycheck and so do my friends. $450 is quite the price tag for playing about two total hours of the game. I hope you consider finding the means to pay back people who supported your vision from the start. This one hurts for sure and makes me never want to support or pre order a game for the rest of my life! Please do right by the people that supported you from the early beginnings

[forest hare]

I don't think you'll receive your money back purely because of when you bought it. I assume it was on kick or via the site and both have been dead ends as far as I've seen for other folks.

That's why I always say not to purchase anything in Kick because, imo, it's not a purchase it's a donation. I fully expect to never see that money again, y'know? So, in my opinion, I think you should write it off as a donation you'll never see again and be more aware of where you're investing money.

I'm not patronizing you, to clarify. I just think it's a waste of your time to seek a refund you'll probably never receive, and on top of which, don't go down the route of never supporting or never preordering. There are a lot of games you can support or preorder that will deliver the intended product, this is just a really bad experience but doesn't and shouldn't define every other.

[visual forum]

So who is Go Daddy and why did they change the website?

[slate quartz]

It is the hosting company and/or domain registrar. Looks like the website has been taken down by whomever owns the domain/website and parked there until all this crap is fixed.

[rose whale]

take ur lost and keep it pushing bub.im shocked the amount of folks still crying on this cord like the signs wasnt there with this game smh

[crystal beacon]

Join the server in my bio

[crystal beacon]

Got hacked

[stone geyser]

<@&542059693779058748> ,

Ty 💙

[young latch]

Why would you purchase. 450 dollar game living paycheck to paycheck

He Also intends to keep moving forward if possible so I wouldn't expect what you are requesting

[drowsy delta]

If you paid $450 I can assume you bought through the kickstarter, meaning you had a few years to play, so having only played 2 hours total is your own fault really, plus like some others have said if you are living pay check to pay check why would you pay that much, your logic makes no sense

[steel adder]

Poor people are allowed to have fun and make bad investments just like rich people...

[forest hare]

Obviously. I think the difference here is that this person spent that money and then played 2 hours of the game. For that price, they must've purchased it a LONG time ago. Why wouldn't you request a refund sooner if you really don't have the time, and you're living paycheck to paycheck?

When I think 'paycheck to paycheck' I literally think you're BARELY getting by.

Hindsight is always 20/20, so I'm sure they just forgot and time went on.

[young latch]

This was always a risk, if you spend your money on a game that could fail. That's on you.

[round belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/girlswantgiris-twt-gif-25618767

[quartz basin]

Playing Crimson Desert will this sh1t storm passes. Good stuff

[fallen sundial]

450$ for 2 hours kinda sounds like a YOU issue who tf spends that much and barely used the product they bought

[dapper swan]

he's living paycheck to paycheck guys

[zinc ivy]

Well for everyone that decides to have my life auto biography figured out over a question.. if you can read me and my friends bought it about 5-6 years ago which obviously life can change over the years. We all supported Stevens vision and really believed in ashes. After playing through new worlds closed alpha and into all the betas and playtests, I was a bit burnt on playing incomplete projects. I launched it when closed beta dropped to check it out and due to the server stress test could barely play it. I said I would let it cook for another year and revisit in the future. I didn't request a refund because I believed in the monthly dev blogs and I thought the product in its end form would be great. Not where we are now, with no promises being fulfilled based on the purchase I made, as well as three of my friends. I purchased a product based on how it was advertised and the product was not delivered as such. Normally when you do this in a store, you can bring a receipt and get your money back. Pretty much with anything in life. Now life is a bit tighter financially and a $450 I and others spent that I never got to use the product, would be helpful. That's it. That was the purpose of my question. But go off gang

[zinc ivy]

Ah yes the fact I use discord for my job and for my gaming habits, so I spend the $10 a month for premium features.. breaks the bank, how dare i claim I live paycheck to paycheck.

[north citrus]

here we have another statement but not from Steven.

[forest hare]

Fair. Though, I'm not sure if you caught what I said, but I really don't think you'll receive a refund. I'm not even sure what avenues you would attempt to take for that purpose. Maybe your bank? You might have some luck backsearching the word 'refund' or something like that and sifting through the shit until you find something half-decent to follow up.

The only people I personally saw claim refunds were all under 100 hours or had very limited hours over that. So hey, you might not be completely in the shit because of how little you played. If you had purchased through steam, I would've said you had great odds.

But hey, maybe in the miracle event the game actually returns you and your buds still have a copy. 🤣

[zinc ivy]

Ya for sure I appreciate it. There are just a few cocksucking idiots in here that want to be negative and chime in like it's reddit. The classic flame me and when I explain "I'm not reading all that" morons

[forest hare]

I feel like it takes more time to type all that rather than just saying you're not gonna get it, lol. Either way, have a good one. Hearing JUne 11th if i remember correctly.

[primal steeple]

sadly, those ppl from reddit usually keep an eye on discord as well, there's no escape 😄 the only non solicited advice I can give, is to not think about it too much, because even in the scenario where all this was made with intention, there is no avenue where you are getting money back sadly. I would say hope is the last chance here, to actually get a game for your money, but it might take a long time. Pitty you didn't had the chance to take a dive for more than 2 hours, It was really growing on ppl and had a lot of potential

[grave sundial]

Wheres the refund

[ancient egret]

bruh you are a few months late to the party XD if you had a chance to get a steam refund that is long over and nobody got a refund from the ashes store or kickstarter XD

[rough oyster]

This topic has been brought to you by ashes of your refunds.

[quaint inlet]

some did not too long ago too lol

[south saffron]

@idle siren come on chief! give some new hope to beauty ppl here! 😛

[slow plover]

#alpha-two-general message

[stone geyser]

Only you can decide if your money and time was wasted. I spent more than you, played about 500 hours over 3 months, and I feel like I got a good amount of enjoyment for my money. I don't consider it a waste, personally. Do I want more? Hells yes. Am I also back on WoW? Lol yes. Steven has posted a bunch that he's still trying to make it work, but legal issues take a lot of time. I choose to have hope.

He posts any relevant updates in #news and has said a bunch he's trying to get it back/continue.

I wasn't speaking for him, I was speaking for myself, explaining the very easy way to find the info you were looking for. 🙃

[lofty vector]

He actually posts quite a lot.

[stone geyser]

Heavens forbid people who have actually been here and know the answers reply. The horror!

Lmao public forum my man. You're being a goober for literally no reason. Search for what Steven has posted on the discord and read his words. You're coming off as entitled and childish. I was literally trying to help. You did not address your question to Steven. You asked a question, and then you tagged Steven and said a bunch of stuff. If you had tagged him before your question, and been clear in your communication, perhaps the misunderstanding could have been avoided. But here we are, with you being a goober and me laughing.

Lmao 🍿

[lofty vector]

Yea, that’s a whole lot of entitlement.

[forest hare]

@light sable You can read from the horse's mouth in #news

[icy basin]

because my Army recruiter was only doing his job, how was I to know that I might see some combat if I enlisted?

[forest hare]

When did I say anything about trust? The person in question wanted to hear from Steven, so I directed them.

[icy basin]

don't trust anyone

[crisp dove]

I also spent the 500 dollars at the time. But I’m more curious if somehow the game gets saved and what not, will we still get all our crap for the game, since it’s attached to our Intrepid account? Cuz I’m not sure how they would track that but if we paid for anything and the game still eventually comes out, getting the stuff we paid for definitely needs to be delivered

[icy basin]

well, if it isn't delivered to the people that paid for it, then they'd run the risk of losing even more players for the testing. Nobody wants to lose hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars worth of content and then expected to come back

[crisp dove]

Not really a risk if you’re losing people who’ve already paid all they were likely to pay for quite a while, tbh. The only risk is reputation. Not to say that isn’t a big risk, but it’s something to think on.

[faint crescent]

afk

[idle siren]

It is not a matter of if the game gets saved, but when.

And when that happens, my intent is to honor what was promised to the people who supported Ashes. The accounts, purchases, packages, and commitments made to this community are not forgotten.

I am not fighting this for nothing. I am fighting to protect the game, the team’s work, and the community that stood behind Ashes for the past decade

[versed fossil]

Здоровья тебе и сил!

[idle siren]

Спасибо, друг мой.

[vocal lynx]

yooo is the game out yet?? ive been waiting a minute

[rain sentinel]

@crystal beacon Would it be possible to keep the server open with at least one weekly reset to keep people playing? My friends and I are still mourning the game, and when the player count declined, most of the monsters weren't even moving anymore. We still want to keep playing, testing the archetypes, and having fun with the game.

[hot garnet]

A toast to AoC!

[vocal lynx]

lmaoo

[icy basin]

as I said before, I'm not taking any side, you do what you gotta do.

[mild wave]

Hey Steven were you that frigging Mega Whale Defiler that was like 1v50ing people on the pirate island in Archage? back in the day?

[cyan crow]

@idle siren w8ing for the day, when AoC will rise again. Unic project, magic vibe, best 472 hours in MMO last 10 years. Be strong, aim high, keep fighting

[void burrow]

I’m just waiting for the day I log into this Discord and it’s absolute carnival chaos because Ashes is coming back 😎

[half lagoon]

@idle siren though alot of things happen bums along the way i still hope that you are able to recover form all this

[odd solstice]

The likelihood of coming back from this is so astronomically low. Even if tomorrow the courts granted Steven full control and all rights to Intrepid and the judge waived his hand and made the money situation with steam go away. That still would leave Steven in charge of a game studio with ZERO employees. Could he hire again sure but there's not a chance that the old team fully comes back. Any of them that have found new jobs would be silly to risk another overnight layoff.

So even if Steven wins the entire team building process has to start from scratch. Its a huge toss up on whether competent people get hired and stick around.

Just sad cus I still can hear that voice call with content creators updating them on what the next big update was going to be and I was so hype....

[primal steeple]

i would put things a bit in another perspective. what would determine someone to stay at the same job/company 3-5-8-10 years? I would say someone that keeps grinding at the same company for so long, especially in IT, is generally a happy person. either the pay is way too good to leave, either your work brings you joy, either it's a mix of those things.

[odd solstice]

Thats a fair point but I would argue that mentality changes the first time your paycheck doesn't arrive. Then crumbles into dust when you get laid off with no warning. Whatever good will the employees of Intrepid had is long gone after January. And anyone starting there will likely have in the back of their mind "hey this dude said he was fronting the money but in reality that was a lie and if things go bad again ill likely lose my job with no warning and no pay" who's gonna take that job?

[fringe root]

Maybe if the game had a PvP progression system like dark age of Camelot does and an actual reason to PvP in small group vs group play in open world rather than the mindless zerging direction it was going in it wouldn’t have died 🤷‍♂️🤡 @desert ivy agrees

[desert ivy]

It died because it ran out of money years before it was completed A system from a dead game wouldn't have saved it

[icy basin]

Yeah good luck finding developers in gaming that will want a job, plenty of other companies like Bungie and EA and Blizzard

[primal steeple]

Or Amazon, or Ubisoft. Oh, wait…

[fair drum]

Seriously ? How disconnected of gamedev job market are you lol ?

[icy basin]

I guess the sarcasm went over your head?

[versed hatch]

Stay strong ! We are many with you 💛🔥

[fair drum]

Dammit mb

[lucid lark]

I

[pseudo flame]

is the game still playable?

[stone geyser]

Negative, servers went dark around the end of February

[pseudo flame]

thanks, i saw some screenshots and messages in other channels that made it seem like it was playable

[ocean saddle]

Anyone playing this game called Farever?

[civic heart]

played the beta for about an hour, didnt really feel a connection

[ocean saddle]

Saw it on twitch and was thinking it might be good.

[primal steeple]

As every game, you might like it, you might not. I personally really liked it, combat is nice.

[ocean saddle]

Gameplay is nice could be my temporary MMO till AoC comes back or CO gets release.

[split vigil]

you think AoC is coming back?

[ocean saddle]

That's why I'm here right? I'm very pick with MMO's never played WoW, GW2, ESO, FF but I played AoC. AoC gave me nostalgia, it has all the aspects of the MMO's that I've played when I was a kid growing up in an internet cafe somewhere in SEA.

[split vigil]

i would hope it comes back but im very doubtful of all the mmos i've played aoc was the best despite it being in a very early dev stage

[ocean saddle]

AoC was not the best MMO I've played. There's a certain MMO called RAN Online that I've played from 2004 till like 2013, that was the best for me.

[split vigil]

ah yeah i hadnt started mmos until a few years ago

[ocean saddle]

Last MMO I've played after RAN was RaiderZ but it shutdown too. I've played ELYON during pandemic. Before AoC I've played pay to win MMO made money and get the fk out and invested it on something else haha\

[bitter forge]

So, when is this discord shutting down?

[primal steeple]

why? you can't live your life knowing it's on?

[wooden void]

steven when we have our game back i believe we gonna have it soon go steven go gogogo

[zinc berry]

even my gf left me this march, idk what i miss more, a woman in my life or Ashes,
probably ashes

[cold solar]

So what MMO did everyone move on to? Tried WoW, Guildwars, RIFT and ESO and none of them filled the same void.

[stone geyser]

Just playing WoW for now while I wait

[glass sun]

Warframe if you count that as an mmo
I'm considering giving that one archeage private server a go again

[untold finch]

i'm moving back to WoW retail, tried SoD, but SW completely desserted ...

[stone geyser]

I'll try classic plus if it launches. Prefer older wow but vanilla is played out these days.

[untold finch]

same here mate

[primal steeple]

which one is that new version with 1 button auto farm or something like that?

[stone geyser]

Retail has a one button assist thing now that you can spam and be mediocre. I refuse on principle lol. There's not even as many buttons as vanilla and people can't learn their buttons?

[tall shoal]

which one? Rage or Classic?

[glass sun]

played on rage last time, it was working fine

[zinc thorn]

ive been debating between ff14 and spinning up a private minecraft mmo modpack server or an eco public server with no asteroid and just let people build on a big like 10km world

[winged cosmos]

stalcraft.. refused to try it & now i can’t put it down

[oblique knoll]

Guys, got any good news to share lately? What games are you playing these days? I only feel like playing Ashes of Creation and have no interest in other games.

[arctic mesa]

I've been playing alot of Star Citizen its a little bit buggy but has huge potential

[woeful marlin]

Are we there yet?

[uneven mulch]

I should hope so, it's been in development for a decade or more lol

[ocean saddle]

[terse river]

what now ? ashes of creation want back in future ? or we cant play it again ?

[forest hare]

I hate seeing my name in there 🤣

[stone geyser]

Embrace the cringe, my friend. (;

[primal steeple]

a true dinosaur

[forest hare]

🥲

[quartz basin]

[tired hill]

<@&542059693779058748>

[normal nacelle]

@arctic mesa little buggy but fun. Been a founder for them too. Long development phase but the stuff they have accomplished. Its going to best EVE online if there ever able to finally polish it all.

[stone geyser]

We're all waiting to find out. Going to be a while before court cases are decided and we know what will happen. Some of us choose to keep hoping that we get to return to the world. (:

[ocean saddle]

Chro

[vernal trail]

any new news on the games situation?

[stone geyser]

2nd week in June will be the next time we get court news

[idle oasis]

It's kinda cooked mate If Steven got all the rights to the game back right now it would take so much time again to reform a development team and get them all 'on the same page' again for the creative design. Not to speak of the goodwill that was lost with the community. For that to come back we'd have to, without a shred of doubt, find out that none of this was in any way Steven's fault and there was no way he could've seen coming.
So for now I'm just gonna be happy for the couple hundred hours I enjoyed with the game, not expect it to ever finish and be pleasantly surprised if it ever does. 😛

[frigid stump]

whatre the chances this game comes back?

[frail sapphire]

So... it is end?

[stone geyser]

No one can tell the future. We just have to hope. The next court date is the second week of June. Check #news for updates, Steven posts whenever there is progress.

[forest hare]

Court date got delayed to July 9th.

[stone geyser]

That's the justice system for ya lol. Ty for the update

[faint sluice]

why did they shy away from the combat of apocalypse for what the game currently has?

[gilded mortar]

who?

[stone geyser]

Probably bots who were never deactivated.

Or the hopeful addicted lol.

But most likely bots.

[fickle zephyr]

are we back?

[noble maple]

how can they ever recover from this? who's gonna trust them again after what happened
genuinely curious how a recovery from such a scandal is even possible, the game stayed in alpha for more than a decade, and the fact that it was still in a very rough state despite going into early access.

[primal steeple]

yes, the game was in alpha for 20 years

[stone geyser]

That remains to be seen. I'll still support the project as long as it aligns with the original values. Not worth trying to understand everything when the court process will still take a while and we don't have all the info.

Don't necessarily agree as to the rough state of the game in early access, I was having a blast

[primal steeple]

next month will be 30 years celebration. let it rain with numbers

[stone geyser]

Homer wrote about Ashes in The Odyssey. He predicted bards would be the best class.

[nimble zephyr]

when does the game come out?

[stone geyser]

No one knows. Waiting for the justice system to decide what happens to the company and assets.

[ocean helm]

someone should buy the assets, there some value on that, not that all the money invested but some

[stone geyser]

<@&542059693779058748> srry for ping. phishing in all pub chats

[woven kettle]

👀 thank you

[upbeat lynx]

I miss this game.

[icy basin]

miss it as well, been trying to play some other games but just can't seem to satisfy my desires for a game.. just gotta keep looking though

[oblique knoll]

Where is the match right now? When will it end? Any exciting news? Launch the server. I want to go fishing.

[frail sapphire]

Next court round will be in June. So...

[icy basin]

hurry up and wait lol

[maiden pendant]

so relatable, I don't think I've had so much fun playing a game ever before, I look here everyday hoping for some information about comeback... 😭

[icy basin]

not really hoping for any information, just seeing where this shit all goes

[green idol]

Where do you get gold and silver bars from i assume thats how you buy a heli i know season pass gives you some but can you earn more

[solar nebula]

Hello 👋

[oblique knoll]

Dawson and his accomplices on the board are still clinging to hope, huh? Fold now to cut your losses. Raise your white flag, get the servers back online, and let’s get this game started

[drifting barn]

someone can resume to me who is guilty?

[simple warren]

Heavily moderated channel. Anything other than questions directly to Intrepid Studios employees in this channel, and direct answers (and the occasional mod comment reminding everyone about this fact) will be removed. No questions asked, no PM, nothing. Just deleted. Nothing personal.

[simple warren]

@idle siren You Asked "How do you guys feel about our referral program?" I wonder if there are legal details, terms conditions, dates of payment, right to cancel and all that detail to cover this contract?

[idle siren]

Terms and Conditons will be posted on the referral program this week, likely by Wednesday

[simple warren]

@idle siren How do you plan to keep up with the community over the months/years as development takes a bigger toll of your time? Will you go down the route of maintaining connections directly? Or will we see proxies such as CMs taking over in time?

[idle siren]

I wish to integrate CMs fairly soon, but I have a passion for the social aspect of what makes the MMO genre so great. Which means I will be directly engaging with the community through development, in the evenings when I am getting home. I will be eating, breathing, and drinking this development and it's community 😃

[simple warren]

@idle siren "And we want our players to have different experiences from server to server."

"Progression in AoC is both traditional and unique, in the sense that there is the staple leveling and RPG elements in the world but also, player driven content that is deeply intertwined with curated designer content." Will God Modding ever be a problem for players to contend with if the ingenius and infinitely monkeyable nature of teh internets pulls the story too far from your main narative?

[hollow fiber]

@idle siren When i show alot of people the current video footage of Ashes of Creation, often people comment on how dull the Combat looks, and i personally agree, it could use some tweaking, also alot of people consider "tab-target" quite an outdated form of combat, and that a fluid action-based combat is a better direction for games to go in. Whats your thoughts on the current combat system?

[teal wraith]

@idle siren Jumping on the combat mechanics bandwagon - are you planning a limited action set of abilities where players have to choose what's active at any given time, or will players have many action bars with many active abilities as in games like WoW and SWTOR?

[woven oracle]

@idle siren Could you actually go into great depth about what you would like to do with the combat system?

[teal heath]

@idle siren Alot of people are comparing this to Ultima Online, with that paralell in mind will we be able to loot our enemies once we kill them?

[ionic sierra]

@idle siren Could you tell us in which languages ​​the game will be translated? Have you contemplated Spanish?

thx!!!

[cunning vault]

Is there any plans to eventually have player housing? And if so, my vote goes more to the being able to build (like Rift) than just a glorified bank vault.

[tacit bison]

@idle siren Do you think the game will appeal to more casual, or perhaps better stated, more time limited players? I love MMOs, but as a parent, I don't have the time to sink into them that I used to.

[fathom ocean]

@idle siren When you talked about the Caravan system, and the way PvP is allowed around it. How will you prevent mass guilds from camping these trade routes, solely to attack and plunder these caravans. Also, how will you prevent mass guilds from securing these routes without trouble because of their size? (I think the latter will be easy to fix, by capping the amount of gold/resources that can be carried per caravan. So it just won;t be profitable enough to organize them with mass guilds.)

[verbal quiver]

@idle siren One of the issues facing many australian/ oceanic players is high ping's combined with poor connectivity leading to reduced gameplay performance especially in games that require combo's to be hit almost instantly. Most gaming companies seem to not care about the oceanic community because they feel that there is not enough profit in it for them. so here are my questions;

• will Intrepid consider having a dedicated oceanic server?
• will you have ability queuing to help solve the latency issues?

[idle siren]

@simple warren "Will God Modding ever be a problem for players to contend with if the ingenius and infinitely monkeyable nature of teh internets pulls the story too far from your main narative?" God modding will not be a problem, or possibility for our players.

@hollow fiber "When i show alot of people the current video footage of Ashes of Creation, often people comment on how dull the Combat looks, and i personally agree, it could use some tweaking, also alot of people consider "tab-target" quite an outdated form of combat, and that a fluid action-based combat is a better direction for games to go in. Whats your thoughts on the current combat system?" This is the downside of transperency. When I decided that our studios would involve the community in every aspect of our development, we understood that there would be needed a level of trust in the community that what they are seeing is not the final product. It is meant to show our progression and development. All too often, an indie developer moves to crowdsourcing a game, prior to having a working model in any system...Basically with only a concept they manage to raise money. I wanted to show more than that, I wanted to show actual production and investment from our studios, BEFORE we asked the community to bring our project to life. In regards to tab targeting, while our combat system is not completely fleshed out, I can say that our tab-targeting will involve possitioning and mobility and that we will have more in-depth blogs on this system as our development progresses.

@teal wraith "Jumping on the combat mechanics bandwagon - are you planning a limited action set of abilities where players have to choose what's active at any given time, or will players have many action bars with many active abilities as in games like WoW and SWTOR?" We don't want our players to be flooded with bars filled with abilities and skills that they rarely use, or become obsolete. So we will have a skill system that progresses with the player. Like many other aspect of our game, players will choose their skill sets from their chosen archetype and archetype combinations.

[teal wraith]

@idle siren With regards to targeting, have you guys given any consideration to separate enemy / friendly targeting ala Warhammer: Age of Reckoning? That's something I felt worked really well there and opened up new archetypes like melee healers whose mechanics don't fit well with a traditional single-targeting system.

[idle siren]

@woven oracle We will absolutely go into great depth when we release our blog on the combat system! 😄

@teal heath "Alot of people are comparing this to Ultima Online, with that paralell in mind will we be able to loot our enemies once we kill them?" I really don't want to compare our PvP system to anything else on the market, because it is pretty unique. Obviously a flagging system has been done before, but not as effectively as I believe we will accomplish. Our goal is to focus on the concept of Risk VS Reward. And we will get into more detail about our PvP mechanics in the near future.

@ionic sierra "Could you tell us in which languages ​​the game will be translated? Have you contemplated Spanish?" Localization and translations really depend on the demand for our game in those regional markets. I can say that it is an expensive process, but one that we are wanting to do if the demand is there. The best thing you can do to see this happen, is to help build our community in those markets. 😃

@cunning vault "Is there any plans to eventually have player housing? And if so, my vote goes more to the being able to build (like Rift) than just a glorified bank vault." Yes, we will have player housing. And it will be amazing! We already have some content regarding this on our website www.ashesofcreation.com But the player housing system is in depth and vital to many systems. It will be far, far more than just a bank vault.

@tacit bison "Do you think the game will appeal to more casual, or perhaps better stated, more time limited players? I love MMOs, but as a parent, I don't have the time to sink into them that I used to" Great question! We want to build a wide community. That means making the game playable for casual and hardcore gamers.

[ionic sierra]

@idle siren thanx for your anwer, really If AoC have a big spanish community, you wil translated. Is normally. Thanx!!!!

I will follow your advances

[idle siren]

@fathom ocean The caravan system is designed to be initiated by the player. Which means, information of the caravans launch time and route, should be a closely guarded secret. Routes will also be diverse, and the world is large, so it might behoove you to scout the route ahead before a launch. Fast travel in our game is also limited, which means unless the guild had knowledge of your plans before hand, it is likely that they will be unable to organize and travel to a location. As far as mass guilds securing trade routes, there is always a bigger fish in the pond. Also caravans will have limitations on carrying capacity and launch windows that will segment mulitiple caravans by several minutes, which would space out the caravans, making it difficult to "zerg" a defense.

[ionic sierra]

When do you think to launch kickstarter or crowfunding?

[teal wraith]

@idle siren What's the best way to reach out with an interview request? 😛

[idle siren]

@teal wraith [e-mail] Is the best way to schedule interviews. 😃

@ionic sierra We have a timeline, but it is dependant on our community development.

[teal wraith]

Excellent. I think my editor already reached out to you, so I'll confirm on that. Would be nice to time something to coincide with Kickstarter momentum.

[ionic sierra]

How many time ago do you have working in AoC development?

[lusty jolt]

Dev started in February as far as I know

[fathom ocean]

@idle siren will there be any roles of value for those who arent interest in combat? Farming/breeding/cooking. If so, will the casual non-combat player feel like his actions are worth something. (Take cooking for example, in most games 99% of food is useless, its all about the top 1%).

[teal wraith]

Maybe a more precise way of phrasing that would be, are there any plans to support non-combat professions as a full-time playstyle?

SWG nostalgia intensifies

[idle siren]

@fathom ocean Farming/breeding/cooking and crafting in general is of EXTREME importance in this world. It is my personal opinion that players who control the economy exert greater influence over the world than those who directly influence PvP. Non-Combat playstyles will absolutely be a full-time option, and will yeild considerable influence.

[fathom ocean]

@idle siren Thanks for the quick response. My gf will be delighted to hear that! @teal wraith haha yes, that would probably be a shorter way to describe my question.

[teal wraith]

Really wanted to get the words "full-time" in there : P

[fathom ocean]

Mhmm, its fun to be able to spend time on non-combat roles, but in a lot of games (besides being a fun side-activity) it doesnt serve any purpose. Or, its just badly executed, like the cooking proffesion in WoW. When you say "Full-time", it should be time-consuming, but rewarding.

[fathom ocean]

@idle siren regarding the question about RP abilities in the General chat channel. Will the game have immersive features like changing weather/seasons and the likes?

[teal heath]

@idle siren Other than bragging rights, what kinds of rewards will players get for pvping? Would it be possible to have some sort of concept or insight on what you have planned for AoC in terms of rewarding pvp?

@idle siren Regarding the castles player housing and raiding, will they be free form or restricted?

Free form in the sense that you can build anything, anywhere, any time and get raided likewise.

Restricted in the sense that you get a plot you can pick in a specific area, and castles are located in specific locations that need to be claimed, you can only raid weekly etc.

@idle siren What can we expect from the crafting in AoC?

Will there be a template system which will allow us to fully customize the stats procs and effects on an item?

or will there be hard stat crafted items obtained via recipies and armor sets that need to be crafted?

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[woven oracle]

@idle siren So if you plan on having both casual (crafters, ect, people who dislike pvp and even hard pve) and hardcore players (people who only like to fight) contriubute to the world and the player community, how will they do this? Will crafted gear, or really anything made by a crafter for that matter, be of any use to a hardcore pvp or pve'r?

[fathom ocean]

My question: will there be any roles of value for those who arent interest in combat? Farming/breeding/cooking. If so, will the casual non-combat player feel like his actions are worth something. (Take cooking for example, in most games 99% of food is useless, its all about the top 1%).

Stevens answer: Farming/breeding/cooking and crafting in general is of EXTREME importance in this world. It is my personal opinion that players who control the economy exert greater influence over the world than those who directly influence PvP. Non-Combat playstyles will absolutely be a full-time option, and will yeild considerable influence. @woven oracle

If that answers your question a bit :P

[woven oracle]

But I would like to know why and how these things are of extreme importance. Just saying they are doesn't mean it will be in the game, players are going to need some reason or incentive for the items, otherwise they could just buy 200x bread and a basic sword from some NPC vendor instead of contributing to the player economy. In most games what the player makes is usually terrible in comparison to what you find out in the world, up until you become a master craftsman and you can make god level stuff.

[fathom ocean]

Well that's basically what i meant in my question with the, (Take cooking for example, in most games 99% of food is useless, its all about the top 1%). But i agree, there could be some confirmation on if either crafting or PvE will be neccecary to obtain the best gear.

[crystal beacon]

@idle siren Idk if this has already been asked before but will you be able to fight with weapons other than bows and basic swords? like wands, a magic staff or a huge fantasy sword etc?

[ionic sierra]

@idle siren Is posible do a comunity site? I would like build a Spanish site...

[fathom ocean]

@ionic sierra You could create a spanish guild on the forums, with their own discord server. Or make a subreddit for the spanish community. Though, it might take a while before the community is big enough to make it worth splitting into sub-groups :p

[near ember]

Limit this channel to questions directed to Intrepid Studios only please. (Modded away other text)

[crystal beacon]

@idle siren Are there any plans to get some e-sports into the game?

[crystal beacon]

@idle siren Any chance you'll drop the tab targetting for skill shot targetting with a crosshair?

[fathom ocean]

I know this question has been asked numerous times, but when do you think the KS will happen? 2017 Q1, Q2, Q3? Really important info when you're promoting the game :P @idle siren

[ionic sierra]

Aoc will have bodyblock in combat?

[teal heath]

@idle siren How many development teams will you have working on combat / classes? What are your plans regarding this in terms of priority?

[ionic sierra]

@teal heath here you can look the Team http://www.ashesofcreation.com/the-team/

[ionic sierra]

😉

[ionic sierra]

1. Question about weather and clima. In the world, will there be climatic effects that really affect the progress of the game or the different settlements? For example, sandstorms that sweep cities, Tsunamis that flood ports, ...

2. Will there be zones with different acclimatization that affect the players by their statistics?

[mystic light]

@idle siren When i registered forum account i didnt recieve email and there is no send new email option anywhere. I even tried changing password wich i was able to do but my forum account still isnt activated.

[idle siren]

@mystic light Fixed! 👌

[mystic light]

@idle siren What about monetization of the game is anything decided yet? Reading the faq it was sayd that the creators are veteran gamers and tired of failed mmos, does that mean its crystal clear there wont be anything p2w like? Myself i would happily spend alot money to cash shop if the game is good and not p2w and i really think it is better overall cause the game will last longer if its not p2w.

[idle siren]

@mystic light We are fully aware and agree that the downfall of many of the MMO's that have come out recently are a result of flagrant pay2win strategies from their monetization process. We will not follow in their footsteps.

[teal wraith]

@idle siren Hey Steven - a lot of MMOs recently have been shying away from traditional steep vertical progression systems. We of course saw EQ:N's ideas on horizontal progression in a levelless system, which I thought were great, and even the more traditional games (WoW, SWTOR, ESO) are going back and implementing scaling systems to keep level disparities from fracturing their playerbase and preventing players from doing things together unless they're at the same level of progression.

takes a deep breath after that lengthy, incredibly loaded lead-in

What are you guys currently planning for progression with regards to that concern? Both in terms of leveling and gearing, preferably.

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[mystic light]

@idle siren I liked black deserts system where all your characters belonged to same family and shared nodes bank guild etc any chanse for something similiar? If the game is heavily community and guildfocused and the amount of guildmembers is limited it would be nice if all characters on same account would only take 1 spot from guild.

[leaden tiger]

@idle siren How big AoC world? and how many ppl can concurrent play per server?

[ionic sierra]

@idle siren, what type will you use, fixed server or cloud servers like amazon or google?

[fathom ocean]

@idle siren regarding the concept art of the mount you just showed us, will there be racial-locked mounts? Or will every race be able to ride every mount. The normal runic mount looked very...elfish. This obsidian runic mount though, doesnt. 😁

[crystal beacon]

@idle siren Will there be lots of battle grounds and pvp arena? 1v1 3v3 5v5 10v10? Also will we be able to pk in open world? Please add a lot of pvp content not just pve. Also equalized 1v1s would be awesome. 😄

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[hollow fiber]

@idle siren Is it just players that can destroy nodes or will PvE events also happen than can cause node destruction/degrading?

[compact thunder]

Similar Question: Will there be public events ?

@idle siren

[ionic sierra]

@idle siren Intrepid Studios will be present in CES2017?

[frosty tendon]

are u hiring

[plucky temple]

@idle siren Is the game going to be alt friendly? For example if you played or heard about ArcheAge, people are doing trade runs (caravans) with their afk alts /following the main character. If AoC is going to have such features I'm afraid it will be abused and people can just refer their main accounts with their alts and get an unfair advantage over other players who are playing with just one account.
Another question related to this is, do you have any plans on allowing multi clients?

[bright storm]

@idle siren Was the music in the videos shown actual ingame music? IF so, is there a chance that when you get to the funding phase that you will be uploading any ingame soundtracks to a place like soundcloud so we can geek out over the early soundtracks?

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[ionic sierra]

@idle siren The option to edit in the forums is not enabled?

[vast pagoda]

@idle siren Can you tell a little more about the summoner archetype? there are so many types of summoner classes out there, and they are all different (warlocks from wow, spiritmaster from aion, sadidas from wakfu, even weapon summoning types of class) what can we expect of the summoner from ashes of creation??

[bright storm]

@idle siren I keep hearing about the cosmetic shop and while I hate cash shops in any form but it seems every mmo is hell bent on adding these. Tell me that there will be a balance between what is added and what is available in game. I would hate it if all you did was add cosmetics into the shop and not be available in the game as well or at least at a decent ratio of 1 cosmetic added to the shop 10 added via the ingame mechanics

[knotty stump]

@idle siren How do you plan to handle Inventory space? Will players be able to find larger backpacks as they progress, or have to make them? Maybe they would be stuck with the same size backpack for the whole game?

[grim cipher]

@idle siren What kind of mechanics are going to dictate who can fight who and in what scenario? Is there room for mercenary forces to defend or attack areas, or even assassination attempts on important individuals? What happens when you die, and would it be feasible to even attack someone one on one for any benefit outside organized fighting? Are bandits going to be a possible problem, and if they are, would you consider that to be a bad thing, or simply another possible path to follow in your quest to belong in the world?

[knotty stump]

@idle siren Will there be an option to hide tags you have on your player? Like hiding your Guild tag, maybe your name too if you wanted to. But then if you werre a murderer it would all be publisized?

[knotty stump]

@idle siren Will we be able to change our Archetype later in the game if we decide we want to try something else? not change our base class, just the secondary.

[plucky temple]

@idle siren Is Intrepid Studios going to publish the game themselves or are you guys going to sign a publishing contract with another MMO publishing company?
Edit: Confirmed by Steven, they're self-publishing!

[fleet portal]

@idle siren I understand due to your response before that Tab Targetting would be part of the combat. Will you have the availability for Action Combat? The combat system for these days have changed quite a bit and action combat seems to be the norm.

[vast pagoda]

@idle siren Any plans on bringing AoC to south america, or at least a Portuguese/spanish translation to the game?

[ionic sierra]

@vast pagoda translations depends of comunity and quantity

[knotty stump]

@idle siren Will deaths play an important part of the game? For instance if you are in a large scale PVP raid and you die, would you be able to rejoin the raide right after you fixed your gear? Or will you be unable to rejoin until after the raid/after you are revived by another player. And will deaths effect towns cities and castles? Like if a player or valuable NPC is assassinated would that have any real effect other than them dying until they respawn or are revived?

[alpine parcel]

@idle siren What interpid studios look like 😮

[crisp saddle]

@idle siren will rogues actually be rogues? or are they going to be more like assassins?

[devout tundra]

@idle siren Will i be able to mess around "flag" on a guild member like in some MMOs, or will they be immune to all AOEs and targeted effects even if trying to purposely attack them.

[errant hedge]

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[somber ether]

@idle siren In the Q&A the team had done earlier, you were asked about dungeon and raid content, the team answered that there will be dungeons and raids. Could you expand on that a little bit? Will there be instanced dungeons and raid content that will require a set of amount of players to follow mechanics properly to defeat, or will it be more open world where you can go in with any amount of players?

[mystic light]

@idle siren What about resetting your classes or skills that you chose or augumented with your secondary class, in the start of game players are bound to make bad decisions and later want to change them, but i asume you guys want the choices also to be impactfull? And what about leveling alts is there any plans to make catching up with new characters easier somehow? Also will all characters belong into same guild or can they be in seperate guilds and will your characters be able to share their items, fortune, housing etc?

[knotty stump]

@idle siren Will classes only be able to weild weapons for their class and wear armor for their class? Or could we possibly see a Wizard in full plate armor weilding a claymore

[knotty stump]

@idle siren Will there be special Titles for doing something first, or doing something a mind numbing amount of times? Like Mining, Killing one type of mob, slaughtering countless players, catching a lot of fish.

[knotty stump]

@idle siren Will there be more flying Battle mounts other than Dragons?

[flint barn]

@idle siren Will we eventually see Q&A's directed towards a certain aspect of Ashes in the future, or will you guys just make stuff similar to the one you made recently?

[fathom ocean]

@idle siren , Will there be playable "modules" ala Star Citizen during the different stages of development? Think of something like a Arena, where we can play-test combat for balancing purposes.

[icy wedge]

@idle siren What kind of crafting system will the game have? Will it be fixed recipe based, item-class based, based on an item's stats, based on which crafting station is used, and/or etc?

[upper turtle]

@idle siren Will aoc have any age restriction mostly with the chat system? Will there be any chat censoring and that kinda stuff?

[unreal steeple]

@idle siren will we have achievements in the game ? :D

[hollow fiber]

@idle siren Any idea of what min/recommended system requirements we will be looking at to run the game? I imagine being unreal 4 it will be fairly high.

[foggy forum]

@idle siren Any idea on where the OCE Server(s) will be located?

[flint barn]

@idle siren Will there be cutscenes and cinematics in-game?

[ionic sierra]

Hi @idle siren , in AoC, the craftsmen how important will they be in terms of the objects created? Will they be as important (more, equal, less) as those found by the world?

[idle siren]

@teal wraith Q "What are you guys currently planning for progression?"

Our player class advancement follows both a vertical progression in the traditional leveling sense, as well as a horizontal skill customization platform. When players start the game, they will be able to choose from 8 separate Archetypes. These archetypes represent the staple fantasy classes; Fighter, Tank, Rogue, Ranger, Mage, Summoner, Cleric, Bard. As the player progresses vertically with their primary class, they will have the opportunity to add a second class. This second class will be chosen again from the 8 archetypes, and will follow more of a horizontal progression. The second class will allow the player to augment their primary skills from their main class, with effects from their secondary class. For example; A fighter has a skill called “Rush”, that allows him to rush towards a target and upon reaching the target, deals x damage with a chance to knock the target down. If that fighter were to choose Mage as his secondary archetype (Spellsword), he would gain access to certain augments that he could apply to his primary skill tree. Let’s use his Rush skill as an example; As a Spellsword, he could choose to apply a teleportation augment to the Rush skill, which would allow the skill to now teleport you to the target, eliminating the charge time on the skill. Each skill in the primary tree will have several augment options from your secondary tree. The secondary skill augment tree will follow a horizontal progression that will be expanded upon further in a developer’s blog.

@leaden tiger Q "How big AoC world? and how many ppl can concurrent play per server?"

We are currently looking into this particular topic, and will be releasing an official answer to this question in the coming weeks.

@ionic sierra Q "what type will you use, fixed server or cloud servers like amazon or google?"

Currently we are in discussion with Google.

@fathom ocean Q " will there be racial-locked mounts? Or will every race be able to ride every mount."

Currently every race in Ashes has a unique mount. Then there are mounts that can be found in the wild, and tamed. As well as quest mounts, epic mounts, and a few other mount specific ideas we will release in the coming weeks.

@hollow fiber Q " Is it just players that can destroy nodes or will PvE events also happen than can cause node destruction/degrading?"

Nodes will experience atrophy and will require continued player activity in order to grow. If a town loses too much activity, then it may result in a PvE siege against the node. We are still working on this mechanic.

@bright storm "Tell me that there will be a balance between what cosmetics are added to the shop and what is available in game."

There will be a balance. 😃 Players will have a wide range of cosmetics available through in-game accomplishment and progression, as well as a wide variety of purchasable cosmetics for players who are more casual and would prefer to support the game through the cash shop. Either way, player customization will be achievable from a cosmetic standpoint readily throughout the game.

[hybrid bone]

@idle siren Quick fire personal question! Will the tank have a rush ability that can be augmented to be more of a blink?

[idle siren]

@knotty stump Q "How do you plan to handle Inventory space?"

Inventory space will be tied to a backpack type item, that will be crafted from artisans. The higher lvl backpack, the greater the inventory space. Different backpacks will cater to different players. IE A gatherers backpack will have more space for gatherables, an adventurers more space for consumables and items.

[crisp saddle]

@idle siren are you gonna keep class fantasy/lore/personality/identity/whatever relevant having 64 classes? how if we can't even get the perfect name for each combination?
also, will rogues be rogues or just regular assassins dps? <--- gonna keep asking this forever

[lusty jolt]

@idle siren With the multi-class system is each class going to have a distinct name to help avoid confusion? and if so I've made a tenative mockup of possible class names that you're free to steal as needed cuz naming classes sucks

[idle siren]

@knotty stump "Will we be able to change our Archetype later in the game if we decide we want to try something else? not change our base class, just the secondary."

This is looking like a yes.

@crisp saddle "will rogues actually be rogues? or are they going to be more like assassins?"

Depends how you build it. Both options are currently viable.

@devout tundra Q "Will i be able to mess around "flag" on a guild member like in some MMOs, or will they be immune to all AOEs and targeted effects even if trying to purposely attack them."

Currently our flagging system has several lockouts. People whom you may not flag on. This order follows a simple affiliation progression in the system. Party member, Raid member, Guild member, Alliance member. If any of these 4 affiliations are present then the player may not flag on the target.

[shadow flame]

@idle siren I guess I asked this on the wrong Discord. Any plans or overview on the testing "phases".. Typical CBT, OBT and Early Access is expected but do you guys plan to do the typical IMO terrible idea of having CBT "waves". With long downtimes between CBT 1, CBT 2 and non dedicated testing. This in our community of 250 members has been our worst games to test and keep a community interested in. Our research shows HALF show up to the next wave at BEST, already moving on to something more stable and constant to play.

[idle siren]

@somber ether Q "Will there be instanced dungeons and raid content that will require a set of amount of players to follow mechanics properly to defeat, or will it be more open world where you can go in with any amount of players?"

Both. As it stands now, many dungeons in the world have an open world component, with several instance access points that parties can participate in. We want to maintain the open world feel while being able to capitalize on the benefits of instanced mechanics. We will go into more depth in a blog soon.

[crystal beacon]

When can we expect the next video and/or blog post? No rush, just curious!

[bright storm]

@idle siren Do you have a timeline for when we might be getting some lore related posts? I know I am curious about the shape of the world as well as the lore behind it.

[hollow fiber]

@idle siren To follow up @bright storm question about lore, Can we have a name of the world(s)/universe already? Be nice to refer to the planet(s) as something more than the Ashes of Creation World/Universe.

[quartz gorge]

@idle siren for pvp ranks/arenas, how will things work, will we have 3v3, 2v2 1v1s, or do you guys want it to only be open world type pvp?

[teal wraith]

@idle siren Several access points from which players can access dungeons sounds like something a game with some form of PvP looting would have. Are there plans for any items, currency, etc... to be lootable on PvP death?

[vast pagoda]

@idle siren How will exploration work? can we find hidden dungeons while wandering the world and get bonuses for completing it for the first time? like double drop rate, xp or something like that?

[somber ether]

@idle siren Part B to my dungeon question, which you can save for the blog if you want to include it in there. The instanced dungeon/raid content you plan on having, will it be progression based? Something akin to WoW whereas it may take weeks or monthes to complete, with trial and error on bosses?

[knotty stump]

@idle siren Will Islands come in varrying Sizes? And how easy will it be to find one, take one over, and defend it?

[small raft]

@idle siren How much is the average coffee consumption per employee? Also will crafting be recipe based or more dynamic?

[idle siren]

@small raft "How much is the average coffee consumption per employee? Also will crafting be recipe based or more dynamic?"

Crafting will involve recipes for certain items, as well as dynamic methods for other items. Avg Cup of coffee for an employee at Intrepid, per day is 3 cups. Sr. Game Designer Peter Pilone probably has 6 cups per day.

[lilac tiger]

LOL awesome 😂 😂

[upper turtle]

Oi @idle siren , wish everyone a nice day at work (if its the right hours to do so, not sure what the clock is for you) but goodnight from me

[flint barn]

@upper turtle Same goes for me

[upper turtle]

:)

[flint barn]

@idle siren Wish them a nice day from us danes xD

[upper turtle]

We'll lets get back to #general-discussion this isnt really #questions related

[kind vapor]

@idle siren is there any ETA on when the Kickstarter would happen? Not really specifically, but would it be before or after the alpha stages of the game?

[idle siren]

@kind vapor Before the Alpha stages is our intent.

[kind vapor]

Awesome, thanks!

[hollow fiber]

😮

Quite a while away then.

Guess summerish would be a guess.

[kind vapor]

@idle siren one more question: at some point when the game's released, will you have some sort of API for web developers to dip into?

[idle siren]

@kind vapor I don't yet have an answer for that.

[kind vapor]

Alrighty!

[unreal steeple]

@idle siren i had also two other questions i'd like to ask, will the game have an ingame achievement system ? and will we get better forums ? if so any ETA on it ? (not that the current forum is bad but it takes a bit too much space for nothing and i think it will get overflowed when waves of people will start to come)

[idle siren]

@unreal steeple Forums and website will undergo many updates and improvements along the way. Including an overhaul of the forum systems and appearence. No ETA on that atm. Yes game has an in-game achievment system.

[unreal steeple]

yaay @idle siren will there be epic rewards from some hardcore achievements or will epic rewards only be linked to quests to stay dynamic ?

[quartz gorge]

@idle siren how fast pace will pvp combat be?

[plucky temple]

@idle siren what's the most badass title in game? 💪

[hollow fiber]

@idle siren Will housing outside of cities come in the form of "Pre-set" models like Archeage, or can we design or customise our buildings? And the ones in the Towns/Cities are already pre-defined i imagine but just alter appearence due to various influences such as race correct?

[flint barn]

@idle siren Will dragons only be given out to kings, mayors and queens, or will there be other ways to achieve them?

[flint barn]

@idle siren Will some of the other guys who's working on the game be joining us here on discord?

[upper turtle]

@idle siren will there be any mini games that you can play in taverns, like gwent from the witcher?

[errant hedge]

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[unreal steeple]

@idle siren will we ever get a bot on this discord that would maybe put people depending on their level and activeness so that we don't have to scroll down all of the list to just know what other active people are playing (and to know if they're online or not too)?

[quartz gorge]

@idle siren will we be able to customize our mounts and houses with things, like add guild tags, pictures that u guys approve, stuff like that.

[knotty stump]

@idle siren Will we be allowed to have custom Guild Emblims and Custom Rank names in the Guilds?

[quartz gorge]

@idle siren how many houses will we be allowed to own?

[crystal beacon]

@idle siren So brother...please allow us to have multiple toons. I really wanna be able to play a bunch of different classes. I know there was a voice or two on the forums against that, so I thought I would add a voice for it.

[unreal steeple]

@quartz gorge as he said on the other channel : they were going for unlimited house but they're leaning to 3 (1 of each type : static house, instanced flat and one open world house that you build yourself)

[alpine parcel]

@idle siren would you compare your game closer to ffxiv or closer to archage PVE wise not sure how much you know about each game

And having one class with multiple classes would be really cool idonno if that's a thing not not but I love that idea just throwing in my feedback xD

[flint barn]

@alpine parcel At the start of the game you pick your class, then once you level up, you get to pick a secondary class that alters some of your spells and the way you play you character. That could f.ex. be tank + cleric = paladin - this combo is confirmed

[verbal quiver]

@idle siren In regards to nodes turning into towns/cities/etc how will the naming process work? will thoose who help deveoped the node be able to participate in choosing the name?

[marsh kettle]

@idle siren will ther be a wide range of armor?

[errant hedge]

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[flint barn]

@idle siren We know that we'll be getting various different types of cosmetic items during the weekly drawings. Do you have an example or two on what these things could be?

[upper turtle]

@idle siren And what system are you going to use, will it be like wow transmog system or it's it more going to be like bdo's systems where you equip the cosmetic items "over" your actual armour?

[alpine parcel]

Is crafting going to be as simple as "click crafting station" make X amount of items. "Bar loading thing" boom new item

Or is it going to be more involved then that

[maiden dove]

@idle siren I'm interested in how much efford you will need to put into building a house. For example if I want to build in a node that just started to develop. I build a mansion (something that should not be easy). How many in game hours would that take. Will it be very time and recources consuming? If yes, what will happen when node is destroyed. Will I get beack my recources or part of them? I'm worried that, if we build home, it will consume a lot of effort and we will become attached to it. If home I build will get destroyed often, and if building would be harder than destroying it, I'm scared it would lead to frustration of players. My other concern is if I build a stable, will residing horses die when stable is destroyed?

@idle siren Will we get mass pvp content. I know sieges will be on, but it does not really have to be mass pvp. I hope for events that include at least hundreds of players united. Will there even be other pvp events than sieges and caravans? Something like halcyona battle in Archeage. Or maybe some naval pvp? I would love to be captain of warship. How big raids can be created? 50 players or maybe even more? And even more important question to ask if it concerns pvp. Will there be a limit to the number of players in guild? I hope not 😃

@idle siren Will there be world bosses in open world? If yes, will they drop weapons, recipes or materials? Maybe all of them. Will you consider giving tokens for participating in battles? I mean you sometimes go for a boss many many times, like hundreds. And you get no profit from it. If you get tokens, you would be able to exchange them after gathering reasonable amount for rewards.

[unreal steeple]

@maiden dove he said that there will be worldbosses :)

[vast pagoda]

@idle siren Any chance on enabling subtitle submision for the official youtube channel? I would like to promote the game here in Brazil, but it would be a lot easier if i could add portuguese subtitles. (I asked the question twice already in the ashes chat, but i think it got lost in the middle of the other mesages)

[idle siren]

@vast pagoda I will look into this on Monday. I think the answer is yes.

[crystal beacon]

questions about housing:As you try to specialize your land and maximize your profits,in which ways does "choosing wisely" implies that other players can affect your land?
Would they be able to destroy your land directly or is there subtle & indirect competition involved for profits?

Question about questing:Will there be neutral parties in between the political rivals competing with the server quests,for players that do no care about (the current ongoing) politics at all?
Like could they support a neutral-side (like druids) if they want neither of the 2 powers to decide the fate of the world?

Questions about pvp:
Do you plan to make pvp more skill-based in your game? Really dislike it in games where pvp is gear-based
Instead of having static pvp zones,what do you think about any unstable node having the potential to become pvp battleground?
so 100 procent of the game world becomes potential battleground and pvp players get the chance to enjoy each of the areas ingame as their battleground at some point

[crisp saddle]

@idle siren will there be out of combat skills/utilities/stats? Like for example lockpicking to open chests or doors, or a luck stat to get better chances on loot or other things?
If so, will it be something class-related? Like, rogues have this utility to deactivate traps, or open doors or get better deals with NPCs; or will it be something available to any class?
Any chance to find ourselves in this scenario? -> "We need X class to engage in this certain activity"

[icy wedge]

@idle siren How extensive is the planned aggro system? Will mobs or groups of mobs target whoever's doing the most damage to them, or the most healing to player teams? Or will they be more simple and target the first/ closest/ most recent attacker? What factors would affect the aggro? In short, how intelligent will the mobs be?

[maiden dove]

@idle siren Oh if I can ask more about last question. If heals will aggro mobs (which is usually the case), will I get more agro from one big heal or from multiple small heals (like Heal over Time?) Ofcourse I know you might not know the answear yet, but it would be great to know your feeling about the subject.

[weak ether]

not sure if this has been asked, will the game be released via steam? ( i have lots of credits there...) 😃

[unreal steeple]

@weak ether i don't think so and even if they do it wont be exclusive

[weak ether]

not bothered about the "exclusivity" just like keeping my games library in 1 place.

thnx tho

[unreal steeple]

@weak ether the reason why i'm saying that is the referral system

[weak ether]

ah true, forgot about that

[rotund epoch]

what are the main classes

[upper turtle]

The main classes are: Fighter, Tank, Rouge, Bard, Ranger, Cleric, Mage and summoner

[unreal steeple]

@rotund epoch there are 8 archetypes and you can choose any of thoose as your main class then you can pick again from thoose 8 archetypes your secondary class to form your "final" class

[upper turtle]

^

We have a document with the speculations of class names if you want to see?

[quasi meteor]

not op but i'd like to se 😃

[upper turtle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cPyQjZlAXR3E8BCymFZXjCqJ9-XVWFxZq7pW2BTS6oA/edit?usp=sharing

[rotund epoch]

please

[unreal steeple]

don't spam too much here please ~

[upper turtle]

^

Move to #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion please

[unreal steeple]

@idle siren and will you actually use kickstarter or will you host crowdfunding in your website instead ?

[maiden dove]

@idle siren or maybe founderpacks with mounts and costumes?

[dull turret]

@idle siren Will there be something like a Membership System like in Runescape where you have to pay for certain advantages?

[maiden dove]

@dull turret game will need subscription to play, so they rather wont make further membership, as dev team promises it wont be ever p2w game

[quasi meteor]

is there any estimates on sub costs then?

[grizzled topaz]

@quasi meteor I believe I heard somewhere that it will be 15$. Not completely sure on this, so if anybody can, correct me.

[quasi meteor]

@grizzled topaz thanks 😃 not too high for a good looking game

[errant hedge]

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[foggy forum]

@idle siren will one of the classes be able to dual wield shields and will it be viable?

[unreal steeple]

@maiden dove yes and yes you will be able to share lands afaik

[flint barn]

@maiden dove Would be interesting if you got buffs when near your partner

@maiden dove Steven answered it some time ago

It was here on discord

[upper turtle]

Lemme try to find a link

[unreal steeple]

@maiden dove check my forum post on the #old-community-media

[upper turtle]

@unreal steeple You got the q&a link?

[marsh sigil]

In the player vs environment section it says that "because of adaptive AI,encounter with similar creatures will yield a complete different experience players have to adapt to."
Does this mean that creatures will behave differently in winter than in summer?(and differently behavior in-& out combat linked to those seasons?)
At least for the players themselves the necessity to adapt to environments could create the depth games often lack nowadays...

[upper turtle]

@marsh sigil well as Steven explained earlier, when the seasons change the monsters change with them.

[marsh sigil]

cool,thanks

It is really exiting to see players planning to offer " caravan protection" services on the guild recruitment section,
Will there also be ambushes along the roads?Offering the players protecting the caravan challenge & players that are not so lawful the choice to even side with bandits,perhaps?

[upper turtle]

That idea is already out there, but maybe you should move to #aoc-discussion if you don't have any more questions

[marsh sigil]

When talking about crafting and the ability to create unique items that represent our strengths and weaknesses,
does that mean we'll be able to take our wears to some sort of "drawingboard" where we can assemble it from scratch?
Like if we kill a mighty beast ,getting the option to wear its skin and head as mantle or helmet?

I think i'm almost done with the questions lol

[flint barn]

I don't think this has been touched upon yet, but it sounds like a cool idea

[marsh sigil]

It hard to contain my excitement for this game 😄 concerning crafting and gathering I have one more question;

[upper turtle]

Remember to tag Steven, it makes it easier for him to find the questions

[marsh sigil]

@idle siren Would crafting and gathering alter the physics of a character,like mining and blacksmithing building more muscles(seen over a long time)?
I've always liked a very active ingame crafting system that is not just a popup window;you get better by doing it.
In most MMO's I find craftin rather dull.How do you think about it;do you think crafting in mmo's ever had enough impact to be exciting?

thanks for the tip DUCK

[icy wedge]

@idle siren How extensive/detailed will the character creation be?

[idle siren]

@icy wedge "How extensive/detailed will the character creation be?"

One thing I liked about BDO is their Character Creation. If I had to give a comparison, I would use BDO as an example of what our Character Creation is going for.

[upper turtle]

@idle siren will aoc have auto loot and mass loot?

[marsh sigil]

@idle siren A follow-up question about guilds participating in the government of nodes in the previous Q&A;
Will there be different alignments for node governments players can associate themselves with?
I think it might offer great diversity, if players can carry out their philosophy and motives to the rest of the world.

Perhaps it adds to that "player identity" that was mentioned in previous Q&A?
So having the alignments good/evil/neutral might add to that identity?
Few MMO's allow players to join the "evil" side;Would you like to see change there?

[oak ember]

@idle siren I know intrepid studius is still working in the pvp but a have a question (HYPE!) Q: Do you plan to have a combat system that was mechanics like block and Iframes, this is mechanics that i realy loved in Blade and soul (Droped the game cause of the arena bugs and horrible server + bots and stuff), i played blade master and boy did i love pvp like blade master vs assasin ^^ (Vid of that kind of pvp --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLCKF9RpfRY)

[opaque cradle]

@idle siren Are there gonna be character template so we can share our character look with other ppl like in black desert?

[stoic flume]

@idle siren I don't know if anyone has asked this, but will the game be buy to play?

[slow bluff]

That is a good question. I would like to know to and also how to be a part of early release.

[lusty jolt]

Subscription based

[slow bluff]

How will one subscribe?

[lucid flame]

@idle siren do you plan to put any races besides the human?

[oak ember]

try asking in the general chat the basic questions, steven is a basy guy dont make him read the same questions over and over or the he will just lose interest in this question chat

[charred ridge]

Channel topic

Heavily moderated channel. Anything other than questions directly to Intrepid Studios employees in this channel, and direct answers (and the occasional mod comment reminding everyone about this fact) will be removed. No questions asked, no PM, nothing. Just deleted. Nothing personal.

[tacit bison]

@Steven when you post an announcement would it be possible to post it simultaneously in a channel that doesn't have general chat permissions so that cool links don't get lost in the subsequent posting frenzy?

[lusty jolt]

game information channel usually has the goodies

[unreal steeple]

@tacit bison #game_information

[tacit bison]

Awesome

[raven gust]

@idle siren hey steven when i got my activation email for the webiste it treated it as spam is it a bug?

[south knoll]

@raven gust It's probably in SPAM, mine was.

[icy wedge]

@idle siren Will 3 people to be chosen in the drawings every week, or will the number of lucky/chosen winners differ?

[real heath]

@idle siren

Hello! - I posted on the official forums a couple more personal questions directed to the Developers and Game creators behind Ashes of Creation.
Link: http://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/developer-inspirations-bts/#post-2345

@verbal quiver advised me to share them here too~

Questions:

1. What got you first into gaming – maybe MMORPG’s specifically? What were your first impressions?

2. Which games did you play? And which of them you liked most?

3. What do you personally find most important in gaming, if you have to choose between:
   – story, experience, ‘lore’
   – competition & PvP
   – community, grouping up and playing together with friends
   – world, exploration, life skills such as gathering & crafting
   – game mechanics, combat, the ‘look and feel’

4. What are your personal turn-offs (gaming related obviously!) – that would make a game generally “unplayable” for you?

5. What elements from having played or hosted other games are you taking with you to AoC, that you would like to bring in or enhance? And which features have you experienced that you would really not want to see in AoC?

I know they are a bit long to answer here, maybe an idea for a future Q&A or blogpost?
Thanks in advance!

[errant hedge]

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[rugged raptor]

@idle siren Hello

1.  <<Disciplines/specializations>>.. .     Will archetypes/classes have their own or shared disciplines/specializations(deffence/offence/dif. magic schools like in SWG/vanilla WoW/Wildstar). 
   

2). <<Skills variativity/originality>>... . Will player realy could see many dif. types of skills from magic schools/close combat styles (procs heals/reactiv heals/dif. wards/shapeshift spells/deffencive styles/stances with duals/One -H//Quarterstaff etc./unarmored skill(light armor ab. from TES: Morrowind)/illusion magic/Enhancements magic/temporal magic spells (Arcanum analogue) etc.) ? Personally, i don’t like when my skillbars replace half monitor, but i think it’s really nice -to have large assortment of abillities per class (good example GW2)
3). <<Deffensive parametres/armor penalty>>. There is some parry , avoidance, deflection and how they work?. Could players create a “light tank” characters? Will armor have some penalty stats (heavy -more DR/glance hit > slower speed/spell cast/dodge chance etc.)?

[unreal steeple]

@idle siren will there be always a server maintenance each week ? :c

[edgy cloak]

Well sure there will since they said that they change the season with each maintance.

[hybrid bone]

@edgy cloak Not necesarily, that could already be coded into the game and might not require a maintenance

[edgy cloak]

mhm true. Maybe i misunderstood it. :X We will see 😃

[gusty horizon]

@idle siren I was wondering about player housing within a node. Say I start a farm and help contribute to the node enough that my farm turns into a mansion. Guild X decides to lay siege to the node that my farm turned mansion is in and is successful in their siege. Will my mansion be destroyed? If so has there been any discussion on some type of "salvage" where I could recoup a portion of my invested resources?

[icy wedge]

@idle siren I'm curious about an aspect of the node system. Will the entire world be divided into regions and then into nodes, or will there be land / wilderness in between nodes that isn't a part of any?

[maiden dove]

@gusty horizon I asked same question before 😄 so I hope you get answear

[vagrant aspen]

Mixture of tab and action combat? Curious if you mean a soft tab system?

[coral smelt]

^To add onto that, will there be dodges and skills with iframes? It's generally known that a game that claims to have action combat must have iframes for proper combat mechanics. @idle siren

[vagrant aspen]

But if they do something along that level, are they going to make it unplayable for lower latencies? And will servers the stable enough to handle it?
Reference #blackdesertonline(HELLO) where you'd iframe but still get stunned. Witch/wizards would teelport and be stunned upon arriving at their location, loads of other shenaningans.
with @coral smelt

[main aspen]

I'm curious about losing your house possessions as well. I'd be annoyed if there's any special decorations you can put in your house. Then it gets blown away and I lose all that work on it. Or even money from that cash shop discussion.

[fickle sinew]

@idle siren Why are you guys going for a sub model. As a consumer I really just wanna pay for the time i play and not for all the hours of the month it feels like ur wasting money.. and then u go hardcore addicted .

But the server rent is probably high isnt it?

I know this si asking too much but could give us a breakdown of the Sub model decision like "server rent is x and we expect to make a company profit of y [to feed us ] so sub was best cause (calculation)

@idle siren Will the game be monetized differently for different countries . I really dont wanna play in india and pay 15$ a month. thats like 1019 bucks here

for US people thats like 0.5% of their salary (3000$ average salary) and for india thats like 3.37.. not much but.. ya know it hurtz.. expecially with the net prices :-p

[mild quest]

@idle siren What are your thoughs about multi character? Like, how many characters can you make? Also, will it be possible to make server transfer of your account?

[vagrant aspen]

@idle siren As seen with Black Desert Online that was met with a wave of positivitiy, the system of "account" versus "character."
Where all of your characters belonged to the same family, and it was a integrated part of the world.
Account bound inventories, you took up one slot in a guild due to your family name. being the slot holder.
Could we hope to maybe see, or ask to see , the potential for the "family" system like black desert held?

[fickle sinew]

@idle siren what is the companies stand on alts?

[fickle sinew]

@idle siren where will ur servers be? locations.. ty

[maiden dove]

I'm pretty sure tat answer to that was depending on community, but I can't find it

[unreal steeple]

@fickle sinew they will probably work with google cloud services for servers 👌🏼

[errant hedge]

You're thanking too much ó_ò

[digital belfry]

Going to shot gun this, I apologize in advance if anything here is a repeat question from a previous instance;

@idle siren

First Question - how diverse will the classes be and will a holy trinity theme be in effect? For instance, will there be X classes with Y specs for specialization etc, or will you go with something more like Rift had when it launched as far as class customization, or perhaps something more like FF-X's sphere grid?

Second Question - Are you viewing guilds as emergent governing bodies or more for organization of players? For example, will guilds become city states, and eventually have area control options for multiple such cities? If so, will they be able to form political alliances/nation states via a council formed of various guild members?

Third Question - Will guilds be able to declare war with one another formally, and/or have Kill On Sight mechanics in game to alert you if "so and so from x guild" is within certain distance of you etc? Also, can guilds create KOS lists for public use with rewards in game offered from a guild bank (items or gold or whatever else may be deemed appropriate such as in game currency, all provided by the guild)?

Fourth Question - What are we looking at in terms of the scope of the game in regards to size? Number of continents, travel times, travel options etc

Fifth Question - How will high end recipes for crafting be obtained? PvP based? PvE? Something else entirely?

Sixth Question - Will players primarily level via a story line quest (Bless Online) or will it be more of a hub based system (WoW)? Something else?

Seventh Question - What sort of level range are you looking at launching with, and what is your ballpark estimate on how long it will take to reach that level? (ignore the no-life-mode/achievement hunter players who will hit this number in 48 hours or less)

Eighth Question - Mount system and mechanics? Flying mounts yes/no?

I'm sure Ill have more later

[flint barn]

I hope this answers your second and first question somewhat. Guilds will be able to conqour and own nodes. If unsatisfied with a way the node has been progressed or if the guild wants to unlock other nodes in surrounding areas, the guild can declare war against other guilds nodes. Nodes a upgradeable pieces of land that you can turn into cities and metropoli (I suggest you read this dev blog: http://www.ashesofcreation.com/a-reactive-world-nodes/). Guilds will be able to create alliances with other guilds in order to help defend nodes, and trade with.

In regards to mounts, we do have a few pictures added under "game information" and we know that the bird/moth shown will have a glide effect. There has also been a mention of dragons. Steven stated that dragons will be used by kings, queens and mayors and that you should be able to fly into fights on the back of them, but wether that means flying directly is not something we're 100% sure of.

@digital belfry

[charred ridge]

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[shadow flame]

@idle siren My question has been avoided twice should I take the hint? 😛

[idle siren]

@shadow flame My preliminary answer is we will not be doing the wave betas, with long downtimes between access.

[shadow flame]

Ty! Community will be happy to hear it! Sorry to pester.

[idle siren]

Not a pester 😁

[west meteor]

Hey guys! Just learned of the game today and have a few questions that I haven't see answers too yet.

Is it going to be possible to have a "maxed-out" character, or will there always be a new upgrade to get?

When Nodes grow to the next size, specifically to larger Cities and such, will they have NPCs that engage in trading and sending caravans out, or will cities need to be populated by many players in order to survive?

Is there any timeline for when a video about trading/gathering will come up? Will it be recipe based where we discover recipes in the world, or sort of Minecraft like where the discovery of items is up to the player?

When a Node gets destroyed, does it downgrade to a level determined by how much damage was done, or is it just turned into a big pile of ash? Also, will a new node rise in it's place, or will that node location be destroyed and a new one spawned?

That's all I can think of for now! Thanks so much for working hard on this, it's easy to see you guys are a great team of highly motivated friends!

[maiden dove]

@west meteor NPC will start spawning when node develops depending on community choices, Nodes can be destroyed or downgraded. Downgrading mechanism was not discussed in detail. I'm pretty sure that node can be rebuild, otherwise we would loose exclusive content of that node. I hope I helped you a little

[opaque cradle]

@idle siren dont make €=$

[real haven]

Hey @idle siren, thanks again for all the questions you very graciously answer. I have one for you, if you're up for it:

Q: Usually devs want to focus discussion on what their own game is doing rather than making comparisons to other titles. That's understandable, but one thing that would be really fascinating to me and would help me better contextualize your design philosophy is if you could highlight a couple of 'lessons learned' from other games (not necessarily naming names, if you don't want). Are there negative situations you have seen evolve in terms of gameplay or social dynamics in other games that you know you want to try and avoid for Ashes? On the other hand, is there something particular you have seen in recent games that has really challenged or inspired you in terms of creative direction?

[errant hedge]

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[sick solar]

Q: Say there is a mage healer and mage warrior. How many skills would we see crossover or will they be very seperate classes?

[alpine parcel]

@idle siren are you really goign to bed

[flint barn]

Actually I have one more question before you go @idle siren

[maiden dove]

@sick solar there will be 8 classes in AoC mage, healer and warrior including. You will choose one class when starting game, and later you will augument skills while choosing another of 8 classes. It's not like you get skills from both classes, rather for example you will get some mage effects for your warrior skills.

[mild bear]

@idle siren . Hi, can you clarify the difference between 8 archetype and 8 classes in AoC context. Is an archetype a loose base framework and a class rigid (ie theres a difference) ? I have seen class and archetype mentioned. So clarity would help with misinterpretations. I guess the concept of 8x8 subclass/archetype is very vague at this point. Thanks matey.

[errant hedge]

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[vagrant aspen]

Can our npcs have their own "lives?"
As we form a city, a town, as the game time passes. Could we see npcs grow from children, to adults, to having their own children?
@idle siren
I know this sounds a bit complex, but to explain why - Black desert online had these amazing "living" npcs in a sense.
We felt them moving and interacting in the world, but they were stoic. Never-changing, and while that was good because of the game feeling itself.
A system in which our npcs feel alive for the city or town we live in. From the start of npc spawning in a city, two adults - a child, then more. Npc markets? npc categories and classes possibly? Apothecary workers, priests/priestesses, farmers, builders. You can have short little "talks" with them to possibly learn a npc's name, and profession?
Or do you have plans for anything along this line?

Or are npcs going to be stoic and non-changing, every city will have the same npcs?

[steep spindle]

@idle siren will you allow multiboxing? god i hope not

[mystic light]

@idle siren in forums if you do double post it would be nice if they were merged automatically, also the forum interface is pretty messy.

[errant hedge]

!archive

This may take a while, but it's okay! =]

This command was placed in a queue for large operations at position 11 and will be executed as soon as possible. Should you wish to cancel it at any time, use !cancel archive
(Contributors do not have to wait.)

Whew! I saved 343 messages.

[verbal quiver]

@idle siren i don't actually know if this has been asked yet so ill ask it anyways, in regards to the mounts will they be persisant BDO style or do they desummon when you get off similar to ESO?

[brisk violet]

@idle siren - How will mapping and navigating the world work? Will it be up to player cartographers, or will it be more "systemic"?

[vagrant aspen]

@idle siren please use a persistent summon form.

In. Regards too @verbal quiver question cause I loved it on bdo

And while it caused a lot of clutter, seeing your horse graze as you went to fight mobs was beautiful.

[unreal steeple]

this isn't #questions anymore this should be renamed to #prayers-room

[fleet portal]

Let's take this to #aoc-discussion to avoid any issues. Thanks guys.

[charred ridge]

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[crystal beacon]

@idle siren How will training work I.E skills. Will it be like DAoC with each levels you get a specific amount of points you can put into different, or will it be a gold buy for skills?

[fickle sinew]

@idle siren Are you going to allow multiboxing? If so how do you plan to mitigate the effect this has on game-economy. Namely inflation . And every1 has to do the same or do enormous grind to get on level

@idle siren How many countries are you actually planing to monetize for. I dont plan to run a referal pyramid scheme just to play 1 game.

[vagrant aspen]

So this is a post that will feature multiple questions. (Hopefully @idle siren if you see them you could answer some, if they've been answered before someone will beable to fill me in.)

1. Most mmos to this day do a $10-$25 theme for costume prices. Will intrepid be following this pattern?
2. Whats the difference in how your towns/villages/cities will work in AoC versus games like Rust? What is to stop us from going to sleep and waking up to our entire work that we've been focusing on for weeks from being completely destroyed overnight? How do you prevent that tedious cycle?
3. With the class system, the seasons, the world itself - When did development start on this game? Because that's alot to promise for a "alpha" at the end of 2017. (A year!) Players are a bit suspicious of over promising (Cough no man's sky cough) Would you say everything you've said will come through, will come through? Or can we expect some features may not ever make it through?
4. Group activity is something many people require, but also solo - player activity. What are the pros/cons to going solo? Many players actually enjoy that "kirito" esq lifestyle.
5. Combat being a mixture of tab/action makes me think about something alongside the lines of "tera" might we ask what game you can compare your combat to the most? what comes to mind when you think of AoC combat?
6. Player recognition and acknowledgement are always wonderful to see in a mmo, when you're the "first" at something it should be known to everyone! Is there going to be a reoccuring log and or calender of game-history from the dawn of time? Noting civilizations that have fell, towns that were destroyed, legendary players that may of achieved some form of glory? (Note: If you don't have an idea for this, you could make a npc that will show you the log of the decades. It could be a single npc that travels the world, so players that want to see the past will need to embark on a journey to find him.

(Might have more after I collect and decide about how to write them.)

[small raft]

@vagrant aspen I think I can answer #2: To destroy a city/village etc. you need to declare a siege a while before, we havent been told how long before yet. But I think its safe to assume that its gonna be quite a while, since the world is gonna take a long time to traverse, so people need a chance to get back. (And as far as I remember, things destroyed by sieges don't go completely to 0% progress, its more like you knock a level or two of the node).

[foggy forum]

Will there be an emu related looking monster ingame?

[maiden dove]

@vagrant aspen @small raft city could be destroyed to 0% progress as well. And siege declaration time will grow longer along with better node progression stage. Another thing that was mentioned is that a solo player will find joys of game as well, but no pros and conf stated :)

[maiden dove]

@idle siren Can you tell us something more about creatives tab on Referral Program page? Will it allow us to make banners? If yes when will this option be ready to use?

[vagrant aspen]

@idle siren I actually got a specific one that people are asking me,
When did development begin like when did you actually sit down with a crew to begin on AoC?
(It's in my big post up there but this is sort of an important esq one.)

[idle siren]

@vagrant aspen I began formulating the overarching design theories in April of 2014. We opened the office December 2nd 2015. We began pre-production with our development team end of Feburary 2016.

Our first employee was hired Dec 2nd 2015 😃

[vagrant aspen]

@idle siren Okay, Thank you 😃 that sounds very promising, alot better than what I was able to find out.

[errant hedge]

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[unreal steeple]

@idle siren do you plan on answering all the questions above ? (there are shittons of them if i remember right)

[maiden dove]

Are you using scrum as project managment?

[idle siren]

@unreal steeple I plan to answer these questions once per week.

[real haven]

Hey @idle siren, really appreciate all the questions you very graciously answer. I have one for you, if you're up for it:

Q: Usually devs try and avoid making comparisons to other titles, which is totally understandable, but one thing that would be really fascinating to me and would help me better contextualize your design philosophy is if you could highlight a couple of 'lessons learned' from other games (not necessarily naming names, if you don't want). Are there negative situations you have seen evolve in terms of gameplay or social dynamics in other games that you know you want to try and avoid for Ashes? On the other hand, is there something particular you have seen in recent games that has really challenged or inspired you in terms of creative direction?

[alpine parcel]

@idle siren If you wernt making AoC what else would you want to be doing as a dream job :O? Or was making a videogame always one of your goals.

[crystal beacon]

@idle siren What are your plans regarding character creation? wil you go the route of Black desert or a more simplistic creation like guild wars 2?

[maiden dove]

@crystal beacon He already said he likes BDO creation, and would rather go more into that style. 😃

[crystal beacon]

@maiden dove ❤

[haughty geode]

@idle siren In regards to player housing/building, are there plans to have safe locations to build up a town or community with a guild where it can not be taken over by a rival guild?

[signal owl]

@idle siren Concerning caravans and attacking them, is there something planned to allow players to attack while hiding their identity to avoid being known as a bandit?

[crystal beacon]

@idle siren Will CC skills turn non combatant to combatant?

[mortal hazel]

@idle siren What weapons do you plan to implement, and will they have unique Animations and attack skills? Like you change from sword to mace, will the attack animation, effect and skill name change? Also, what level of technology can we expect in weapons? Will we be able to create new Technology over the time? Like creating black powder will lead to the development of cannons and guns or weapons based more on magic instead of science?

[mild bear]

@idle siren Will we see a prison, prisoner, rescue, escape, mass jailbreak system in place. A little slavery. Maybe some light bondage or a wee smidgen of torture to add atmosphere ? #MMMOGA.

[trail salmon]

@idle siren Taking from what @mild bear Said, will there be a prison mechanic, maybe relative to Archeage? I personally dislike this system since it was too easy to break out.

[lusty jolt]

@idle siren not sure if asked already to many questions, but will Ashes use DX12 or Vulkan or something else?

[vagrant aspen]

@idle siren Can your bard class be an aoe class? versus a single target one.
I can't Cough aion bard get over it when a class has a single target buff system when their playing a musical instrument that the entire area should beable to hear.

[molten meadow]

@idle siren Will there be in game marriage ? Or a bonding System of any kind ?

[maiden dove]

mariage was already confirmed to be. With some land sharing and stuff. I tried asking same question before ;p @molten meadow

[molten meadow]

Alright, thanks

[crude girder]

What Hardware will intrepid use for the Game? And will we see Gameworks in the game? I hope we have no Physx or some of this shit stuff inside the Game 😉

[solar igloo]

@idle siren Have you considered a feature like the Olympiad System in L2, like having a tournament between all the ppl within the same class, and the best one could recieve a bonuses at the end of the period as the Winer, and be recognized as such, like there was a specific Glow in L2, and several skills, ive been a MMORPG player for a long time and i havent seen a similar mechanic tbh, i dont really understand why because i think it was one of the best things i have experienced in a MMORPG. 😃 Thanks.

[errant hedge]

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[maiden dove]

@idle siren and if alpha key gets you acces to beta, or do you need to get is separetly (@verbal quiver I know winning beta key does not rule you out from alpha drawings)

[plucky temple]

@idle siren What's your stance on RNG? Is the game going to have heavy RNG-Based mechanics? Such as crafting, enchanting, gemming and that kind of things.

[crisp saddle]

@idle siren what kind of loot system will Ashes use? "modern" personal loot? something ala Lineage 2 with loot dropping to the ground and being accesible for everyone after a short protection time?

[teal wraith]

@idle siren I want to second @real haven' question from earlier!

"Q: Usually devs try and avoid making comparisons to other titles, which is totally understandable, but one thing that would be really fascinating to me and would help me better contextualize your design philosophy is if you could highlight a couple of 'lessons learned' from other games (not necessarily naming names, if you don't want). Are there negative situations you have seen evolve in terms of gameplay or social dynamics in other games that you know you want to try and avoid for Ashes? On the other hand, is there something particular you have seen in recent games that has really challenged or inspired you in terms of creative direction?"

I think hearing an answer to this would be really fascinating.

[gusty horizon]

@idle siren I second @plucky temple and @crisp saddle 's questions

[sick solar]

@idle siren Making tanks useful in a pvp environment is often hard to accomplish in a holy trinity system. Tanks usually sacrifice usefulness somewhere else in place of self-takiness which often makes them less useful than other class archetypes in pvp because they can be ignored and focused down last. How will intrepid combat this problem?

[modest lion]

<@&257269635559194625> Outside of attacking NPC caravans, will this game be able to hold my fantasy of being a bandit and running a bandit crew that holds people ransom for their gear? In that regard, is gear a permanent fixture on your character or can it be lost?

EDIT: I've looked at one of DeathsProxy's recent videos and I'm mostly okay with the system, but a bit annoyed at 'corruption' - will there be a lore reason why people become 'corrupted' or is it just a bald-faced way to curb rampant murder-sprees? Is there a specific reason why sandbox MMOs always end up with a risk/reward PVP flagging system rather than making the very act of being a bandit the risk in and of itself?

[tropic bramble]

@idle siren to follow slightly from @modest lion's question regarding the flagging system: What percentage of nodes will be designated for PvP? Will a pvp zone that has a player city/town built become a safe zone over time?

[trail salmon]

<@&257269635559194625> I agree with Phantaram. I typically play Stealthy/Burst assassin Archetypes, but when Tanks like Dragon Knights in TESO, and Giants in BDO have good Sustain, Damage, and AoE CC those are the most fun for me. Will this be an option for AoC's PvP?

[crystal beacon]

@

@idle siren wil there be a watermage type healer ? id rather have my dreams crushed early on xD

[idle siren]

"Do you have a timeline for when we might be getting some lore related posts? I know I am curious about the shape of the world as well as the lore behind it"

@bright storm I'm a story guy myself, and I love the depth our world has... We will begin to slowly release lore content in the coming weeks.

[gusty horizon]

@idle siren to add on to what you just answered regarding lore...Do you plan on having in game events that shape the lore or is it going to be back story only?

[unreal steeple]

@idle siren Is Jason Crawford the composer of the music used in the trailers ?

[idle siren]

"for pvp ranks/arenas, how will things work, will we have 3v3, 2v2 1v1s, or do you guys want it to only be open world type pvp?"

@quartz gorge There will be Arenas, and they will vary in team composition. From 1v1's to team based instances. Rankings will be an integrated feature.

"Several access points from which players can access dungeons sounds like something a game with some form of PvP looting would have. Are there plans for any items, currency, etc... to be lootable on PvP death?"

@teal wraith Currently when players die to other players, the death penalties incurred will include a portion of the deceased player's resources/gatherables dropping. Player's will have a very limited space for these types of items in their inventory, as we intend the caravan/mule system to be the primary mode of transportation in regards to these goods.

[maiden dove]

@idle siren will killed mules drop items as well?

[idle siren]

"How will exploration work? can we find hidden dungeons while wandering the world and get bonuses for completing it for the first time? like double drop rate, xp or something like that?"

@vast pagoda We really want players to explore. And we want them to be rewarded for finding things. And new things will spawn all the time in the world as areas get developed. So in short, Yes, exploration will be rewarding.

[idle siren]

"Will dragons only be given out to kings, mayors and queens, or will there be other ways to achieve them?"

@flint barn It's possible that an egg could drop from certain Epic World Bosses. Which over time may yield a dragon, but that dragon would have a timer on it.

"Will we be allowed to have custom Guild Emblims and Custom Rank names in the Guilds?"

@knotty stump Yes. The guild interface will have a great deal of customization.

[upper turtle]

A timer? Like it will die of ageing? @idle siren

[idle siren]

@upper turtle Correct. If we go the route of Epic dropped eggs, they will age and die eventually. Whereas the mounts associated with Lordship IE Castle owner/Mayors, these mounts will be accessible so long as the owner meets the necessary requirements of being a lord/mayor

"will there be any mini games that you can play in taverns, like gwent from the witcher?"

@upper turtle I personally like minigames, but they have to be done right. We will look into crafting some fun mini-games for sure.

[maiden dove]

@idle siren Will there be fishing in game? Will it include some minigame (like pulling at right time) and will there be option for afk fishing? I know people that find it most fun part in games, so I would love to be able to tell them that some fishing in one way or another will be implemented

[mortal hazel]

@idle siren on the topic of mounts, will we have thinks like big wolfs or land based reptiles? Will the species of the mount decide its speed? Also will we be able to have carriages like the NPCs in the Caravanes?

[plucky temple]

@idle siren mage combat video (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[mortal hazel]

@idle siren Will there be an option for guilds to hire other player/groups/ guilds like some mercenarys to help in deffending or attaking a node?

[upper turtle]

@mortal hazel Yes, that has already been talked about /half comfirmed

[crystal beacon]

@idle siren Will we get to see concept art of playable races any time soon?

[molten meadow]

@idle siren How will you make the party system ? Will be parties be regular 5 man ? and then raids with multiple parties ? Also, will we have in depth party/raid making/managing features such as the ones you can find in games like Revelation Online wich eases the process from getting people into your party to giving them roles, setting waypoints, highlighting places in a dungeon etc.

[limpid zinc]

@idle siren One major thing I have nowadays with mmo's is that were stuck to tab target playing, where as there is no ability to change it to a active combat playing style including key combinations such as the ones in Black Desert Online. Will there be a way of switching the controls to more of an action combat play style, or will we have a repeat of since played MMO's? The game looks beautiful and I can only hope the combat is up to par from what I saw from the videos on the Ashed of Creation youtube channel.

[maiden dove]

@limpid zinc combat will be tab target and action hybrid, its said to be dependend on positioning and dogdes. Steven mentioned that there will be no option to switch between hybrid, tab target, or action as in some game which name I forgot (Rev I believe). I think we will know more from video in few hours! 😄

[limpid zinc]

I sure hope we are given the option.

[foggy forum]

@idle siren Every game that has playable races in it usually has bipedal humanoids, is there a chance we will see a playable race that isn't run of the mill "human with slightly altered features, ie. a centaur type playable race"?

[foggy forum]

@idle siren will there be ingame events related to how a town progresses?
ie. the local dryads aren't fond of all the pollution pumping into the air by the 120000000000 dwarven smiths and their forges so they decide to invade the city.

[maiden dove]

If there is loss of activity in a node, it could result with a PvE siege as was explained on Node dev journal. And if it comes to evens overall they want to fit them in the lore. So I believe answer to your question is a yes. @foggy forum

[heavy steeple]

@idle siren How do you believe the game will run in Low End computers? Will the graphics settings in the game be able to go at a low enough point that a laptop can play the game? (Obviously I don't have a low end computer... probably)

[verbal quiver]

@heavy steeple Q: The graphics look amazing! What engine are you using? How will I ever afford a computer that can play it?
A: We are using the Unreal 4 engine for development. Most of the artwork of the game is optimized to play on mid-range hardware made within the last six years. Additionally, we are exposing many optional settings which will improve performance on lower-than-minimum-specification hardware.

[pastel atlas]

@idle siren Is there going to be a limit to the stamina you can have? or can you train (afk running to places like in BDO, workout minigames) to increase your stamina and be able to sprint longer?

[crystal beacon]

@idle siren So I was thinking about the character creation process...and how one of the hardest parts is choosing a name because all to often the name you want is already taken. So that made me think...how about giving Discord users (or perhaps as KS reward) the right to reserve character names?

[crystal beacon]

@idle siren why is it that when i hit register for the alpha game it just takes me to my profile and does not verify that i have signed up for the alpha?

[lilac oxide]

@crystal beacon Creating account by itself allows you to take part in alpha/beta access drawings 😉

[charred ridge]

@idle siren Sorry if this has been asked many times, but will we be able to buy our way into the alpha/beta? Because knowing my luck with getting handpicked for alpha, it will be my only option.

[mild bear]

@charred ridge The current process is handpicking + a draw on alternatie weeks as I understand it. There is no pay for alpha access.

[crystal beacon]

@lilac oxide how will i know if i have won such drawing since i will prob not be checking the website often?!

[lilac oxide]

@crystal beacon I think winners are informed by email but correct if I'm wrong <@&256789677930053632>

[fervent ferry]

Will we have PvE servers or is PvP too involved in gameplay?

[vagrant aspen]

@idle siren Heyo!
If you do a tavern system could we do a character impairment system due to being drunk?
Say you party at the taverna bit, purchase some alcohol, your character gets drunk. Your control sget a bit sluggish and your character walks a bit silly esq stuff. Maybe a simple movement impairment or cast times would take a bit longer?

[mild bear]

@idle siren I've been kinda spoiled with ESO now. Will there ever be voice-facial animations at some point ?

[ionic sierra]

<@&257269635559194625> I like and prefer occidental style than oriental like a lot of games. Which style will be selected for Ashes of Creation?

[vagrant aspen]

@idle siren I noticed in your #game_information you mentioned "spawn" with mules.
Are you planning on having a mount/pet spawn system? If so Might I ask what you plan on having it contribute or attribute to?

Is it out of the question for a stable/registry option and a take-out set up similar to blackdesert online?
Aka if we're not riding or leading our mule, could the mule simply stand there in the world? Or follow us around.

[nova condor]

I know the game will have tab-targeting combat, but could we have an option to at least use an action combat based camera like in guild wars 2? Because i personally find it difficult to move in tab-targeting games and i'd like at least to find it easy to move, it would contribute to my immersion a lot.

[mortal hazel]

@idle siren How many crafting Skills can you learn with one character? And will gathering skills take one crafting skill slot?

[vagrant aspen]

@idle siren What is the level / and or character progression system going to look like?
Are we going to have a static "level like this 1-20" system?
Or are we going to have a stat/skill point system. Where we grow our character through earning stat points to distribute and skill points?

[weak ether]

@idle siren a question im sure your asked regularly: do u have a rough ETA? 2017? just need to know how much rubbish i have to play before getting hands on AOC 😃

[lilac oxide]

@idle siren So I was about to change my wallpaper and I started wondering if you're planning on releasing any wallpaper packs in different resolutions? And if yes when should we expect it? 😃

[maiden dove]

@idle siren After posting to fan art area who owns rights to it? Interpid, discord or posting person? For me it does not matter, but it does to my friend.

[crystal beacon]

Ah, the artist almost always has the right to the pic he/she posted

[errant hedge]

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[narrow forge]

Will there be a variety of playable races or just humans?

[knotty stump]

@narrow forge 8 Different Races, Humans are the only Confirmed ones thus far.

[crystal halo]

Will there be a 'cap' on how much you can do in a week for progression gear? (Aka raid lockouts, token weekly maxes, limited number of weekly drops of a certain ilvl, etc)?

[valid sierra]

Will there be a colorwheel/ multi color dye system for people to customise their gear in and give it there own personal look

[maiden dove]

@valid sierra I believe this answers your question 😗

@idle siren will you consider VR support? I would love to use it for better immersion (if I will ever be able to afford it ;p ). I know it might be hard with angle you plan to use, but hope never dies!

[crystal beacon]

@idle siren Do you have an RSS feed for all of your news, blog posts, etc.? - Answer already found.

[alpine parcel]

@idle siren Are titles going to be a thing? (Master of Craft, Master of Sword Master of Bow? I have other titles that sound cool if you need idea c:)