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okay so im a little confused on something and had a few different answers with that artisan skills can i only max 2 of the same artisan skill or can i make 1 crafting and 1 gathering for example or do the ones i max both need to be crafting
Up till a couple months ago the plan was you could only max artisan classes within the same branch (gathering/processing/crafting), but now they've changed it so you can max different branches. So you can have a grandmaster artisan gathering and crafting for example if you wish
where did they announce that if you dont mind me asking
During the crafting stream in November
Isn't it max of 2 on grandmaster?
Yes
yes
Nvm I just realised artisan isn't a crafting group
Yeah, I've read the wiki. What I was saying is I can't wait till the showcase so we can get an idea of how they actually play, both as main and subtype, not how many and how long the summons are. I'm excited to see what kind of moves or summons they'll have, how combat flows, if it looks interactive instead of you sitting in the back lines, etc.
I hope it doesn’t feel like your summons are doing all of the work
i hope it will, u are summoner, summons are supposed to do all of the work 
First question: Does being flagged for PvP affect the loot table of the bosses?
Second follow up question: if flagging does effect that table roll… in a raid, if we were to have only the loot master opted-in for PvP and everyone else non-flagged, would that roll have better odds or is it based off who made the killing blow or something like that?
No
That's not how player flagging works in AOC
That makes it feel like an auto game to me
The open world PvP flagging system is designed to deter people from griefing other players without limiting opportunities for open conflict.
We do incentivize players to fight back, or to participate in PvP through the flagging system, but not to PK. Not to go corrupt. – Steven Sharif
Players can participate in open world PvP with one another wi...
I quite like the feel of WoW's demonology warlock, where your demons fo the work, but you're actively engaged, constantly summoning, milling out effects onto enemies, or buffing your summons with specific rotations of moves. I hope we get something similar, where you're constantly active and doing stuff, even if it is just commanding summons, buffing them, and activating their abilities.
well. im used to play summoner on lineage 2 where u as a character are just "support" to your summon ....
What I mean is you can manage your summons attacks and such. Not just summon them and that’s the end of the story
ye in wow summons are just... lets say, spells ...
ye ofc, i agree with that
So PvP flagging only affects death or player to player interactions and not PvE content? Is that correct?
well, yes
in short
Great, Thank you.
Yes, because other than extremely restricted areas you're able to be attacked at all times.
The incentives to fight back are so you lose less as risk is meant to be ever present in the game world
The thing the worries me about this, what if Disconnections happen? What if internet goes out for a bit... It should be a group type of thing where it's connected to either 3-5 people which are the "Leaders" of the group. But then what happens if it's a server issue and everyone is logged out... is there a time limit set for these summons to stay up like an hour after the summer(s) log out or so. Many things need to be considered for this situation.
These issues (if they exist) will become apparent during and after alpha 2
hi guys,
after seeing the ranger combat i think i might look into getting the alpha 2, considering it'll prob be up for a year or so but my question is do we know if there'll be servers for OCE testers or will we need to join NA or wherever they end up at. Being in Aus there ain't much option for MMOs so i'm hopeful this is decent but i just can't imagine 'playing' in a non aus server as the lag delays are really frustrating.
Atm OCE servers aren't planned until Betas
There are a few people from Australia/NZ that have played in past Ashes tests. @dark jungle @still wyvern. Can see what the ping has been like for them
You would just resummon them? It's not like they're gonna give the classes main feature a massive cooldown that wpuld prevent you from just, bringing them back when you re-log on.
The summons are tied to the summoner. If they disconnect, the party no longer has summons, because the summoner is gone and there is no one to command them or use their abilities. The only time any summon would be tied to a group is the siege summon, and that winds up tied to the specific player controlling it.
I suppose for the siege summon they could make it swap to someone else if the controller disconnects, but in the case of a server issue that disconnects the whope party, you would've had to start over anyway, so it doesn't matter if it persists, since you're gonna have to redo what you just did anyway.
pls go to #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion if you wanna discuss stuff
this is a place for questions an answers
Confirming that from OCE side, when I played on A1, I didn't experience issues surprisingly.
I was able to kill off mobs, and explore. Never experienced any rubber-banding, nor any stutters.
is there any chance you can change the cosmetics that comes with the "voyager plus pre-order pack" to a different somehow? or perhaps trade them with other players? there's some that i would rather have than the latest one that i bought ^^
No
@idle siren
i know it isnt said or so, but perhaps there is a possible way to get it done, hopefully. the pack from oct 2019-nov2019 is so sweet
Still no
There's no trading of purchased cosmetics
thanks for the answers, not asking you tho, im asking the ones in power to perhaps make it possible 🙂
Steven has already said no to this before
i haven't seen that, but i take your word for it, thanks! might you know when and where he said this? also fingers crossed he changes his mind 😛
zeldo is mad i mentioned pokemon
Hi, when the next livestream will be?
last friday of the month
if they do that well... that would be a spit in everyones face who bought a pack years ago cause they liked that cosmetic
I'll toss my coin into the hat on this one.
I believe it would be a fantastic addition to have the option to choose from any of the cosmetics offered in the $375 package. When we claim it, by providing us the freedom to select our preferred cosmetics, adds immense value. Personally, I invested $375 to not only to support the game but also to enjoy the adventures to be had with the cosmetics that resonate most with my personal taste. Unfortunately, as @wispy ruin pointed out, some of us joined the $375 tier later than others. Perhaps due to discovering the game belatedly or not keeping track of package changes.
I get that there are different factors to consider, but perhaps it's worth revisiting past discussions to enhance the value for everyone who contributed $375 to the pool. Regardless, the reason behind this idea is simple—whether someone grabbed the pack early and scored a fantastic cosmetic or someone who just discovered Ashes is joining the journey, by giving us the choice, it would enhance our satisfaction with such a substantial one-time investment. Just my two cents. Cheers!
i see what u say, but that goes both ways, not as simple as that.
okay, tag me in #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion and tell me how that goes both ways, cause im pretty sure it doesnt.
Do they actually discuss Ashes inthe #aoc-discussion because as far as I can tell, it looks like there are 2 general BS channels and no actual discussion to be seen.
yes, and i said to go in those rooms cause this room is for question and not discussions. so if you wanna discuss anytihng you go to those cahnnels and leave this channel for questions. so please do that
Cosmetics provide a wide array of customization in Ashes of Creation.
There are no pay-to-win gameplay benefits from any purchasable items.
All skin cosmetic items are cosmetic items only and do not grant the user any other benefit. The lore text is flavor text, and background of the creatures and items in the world of Verra.
Types of cosmetics:...
@wispy ruin I can't link it but you'll find your answers in the link above ^
ty for your kind and informative answer ^^
@wispy ruin @naive pivot You wanted words from those in power that it isn't going to happen. Here they are.
thank you sir/ma´am, not many with meaningful responses in here, God bless you! 
ok but where the character creator at tho?
Cookin
anyone knows if each race will have their own starting zone? does everyone have the same starting zone? or do we have options regardless of what race we pick?
Last information given is that each race has its own starting zone adjacent to the portals. Anyone can start at any of the portals, including the Tulnar, who have "attached camps" near each portal. For example, the dwarven portal will have dunir and nikua separate starting areas near it.
Shown here.
You will need to zoom in.
sweet! thanks alot for the info! 🙂
That's the old map, though
It still illustrates the concept proposed.
how do you post on the forums/reply to posts? it says on the right side there should be a post or create discussion button, but its not there and i cant reply to any official posts :(( is it because im like lvl 1 on there/ a new account? How would you even get more stars though if you cant post at all
You need to be logged in on the forum but yes There's a yellow create discussion button on the top right (on pc) if you want to reply to people you just hit the quote button on their post and then enter in your response in the box at the bottom of the page for that thread.
If you're logged in and can't see those try another browser.
ill try another browser then, i didnt see them at all even when i was logged in
ok using another browser worked thank you! 💙 
how long does the last package stay ?
Last chance to buy a fresh pack is January 17th at 11am PST. If you already own a pack (e.g. the Wayfarer pack), you can upgrade even after the 17th
so 10 days ok ty
However they'll likely re-add the ability to buy in to alpha/beta phases at a future date (could be before, could be after A2 begins)
fyi, what you showed does not mean they will likely do it. they might do it
but they possibly not do it.
Just let me buy the alpha 2 access, for friends.
You can buy them a prepaid credit card and give that to them. Or give them your cc info. Or give them cash/venmo.
I guess I shoukd specify. JUST the alpha access
Can't buy just Alpha. You have to buy the pack, and everything that comes with it.
They won’t sell just the access for less than $150 at any point if they even end up doing that since it would be cheaper than what original KS backers paid
Oh I know, I personally got the 250 pack. Just want my buddy to join without chopping off another leg lol.
will there be different names for each of your alts in AoC? or is it your account name across all characters.
Yes they are not under the same name in the account - they dont share guilds either
Intrepid is not opposed to using alts for espionage among cities/guilds
thank you!
Can we upgrade a pack after the 17th or do we have to have our purchase decided? Does anyone know.
You can upgrade beyond Jan 17th
Ok, thx
I don't get paid until 2 days before the 17th and wouldn't have the money to get one of the more expensive ones, so I'd like to know if there is a specific minimum price pack you have to get to be able to upgrade later and how I would go about upgrading in the first place.
Alright, I was worried they might've had it limited to one of the 100+ ones.
Once you have one of the cheaper packs, you can go into the shop and buy one of the higher tier packs. It will still show the full price, but once you go to checkout it should reduce the price. E.g. if you go to buy the $250 pack and you already have the $75 pack, it should show as $175 at checkout
Thank you. I'm really excited to try it out once Alpha 2 drops.
Would that work for alpha access? Buy the 75 and later upgrade to the 250+?? After the 17th or would the keys be removed from the upgrade at that point?
at some point the upgrade might stop but like when the packages stopped. they will give ample warning if/when that happemns
Yes
You just can't buy a pack after the 17th if you don't own one already. You can upgrade an existing pack to a higher package, but can't buy a brand new one
I hope people aren't confusing taking part in Alpha 2 with "trying out the game". 😄
A few people will. People spent $500 to try A1 and complained it wasn't a full game so they'll definitely do the same with A2
I know that there are already 64 classes planned for the game, but do you think in future they might add more classes with expansion? Like druids or something?
There have been no announced plans about future archetypes or class combos. But who knows?
8 classes. 64 is misleading.
It’s unknown!
Meh
Meh meh
8 Archetypes, 64 classes.
Once we’ve purchased A2, is there any additional channels we can get a role for here on the discord?
Not yet
far as i know there is no channel for B1 B2 so i dont think for A2
i dont have A2 yet
but i do have B1 B2
Thank you 🙏🏾
Hello, I bought a pack in 2017, I think it was still a kickstarter back then and i wonder if I would be able to play the A2?
Depends what pack you have
You'd need to check your inventory on the Ashes website to see what pack https://ashesofcreation.com/settings/inventory
I have an Explorer Access (Summer)
Explorer doesn't give access to A2, no. You can see what each tier gives access too on the sidebar here https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1791529601/ashes-of-creation-new-mmorpg-by-intrepid-studios
wow thanks a lot. Didn't know you could still access this thing!
Unless you bought in at the time you can't buy in now, but people that bought in at the time can upgrade their Kickstarter/Summer packs still
yup i just saw that, it's nice i might upgrade it 7 years later haha
I know full well what I'm getting into and that it's not the actual game but rather testing various parts of the final product. I had bought early access to Baldur's Gate 3 when it first came out despite knowing it wasn't gonna have everything and was gonna mainly be testing and fixes cause I wanted to help out with the development of and to support something I looked forward to in any way I could, both financially and by putting it through the wringer and reporting any bugs or issues I found.
Not how it works for kickstarters/summer backers.
They have their own upgrade path which includes the kickstarter benefits.
So in the case of @zinc fiber they can just log in and upgrade to a settler (or any other higher pack)
thank you that helps alot
when i try and log onto the forums it says Before proceeding, please set your contact email address in your Profile Settings and i have already done that
Just set it again with the same email
Is there a title for participating in the alpha test? I have FOMO about titles LOL
hi im back with generic question......when is the game launch?.....any upcoming test?
alpha 2 is Q3 this year
thank you...seems like i will not be able to play it until i reach to the part where i have grandchild

in alpha, can i use 3. party programs to try to find bugs/exploits
Im pretty sure thats against their tos, but hey, atleast you find out how good they are in detecting that 😂
will the cosmetics (that eventually get added later) be restricted to the current system? as in, do i need voyager plus to get a clothing skin later on? or will it be a detached system?
no cuss then those using those would be able to find better ways to use it when the game comes out
No, you do not need a package to purchase future cosmetics after preoder pack sales close
tyvm, would have been the only reason upgrade now. saves me some troubles.
Youre welcome c:
thx
So how does one connect their discord and Forum account? I remember doing that way back when but it doesn't seem to show my KS level like I can see with some people.
ok
Question: We have a few members who have yet to get alpha2 as it is a lot of money to save, I heard that if you get the beta you can upgrade the package to the alpha. So is this true and if it is will this service still be available after the store shuts on the 17th
So after the sales stop you can still upgrade?
yes
perfect I will let them know many thanks!
The ability to upgrade will end at some point, but we've been told we'll get plenty of warning before it does.
is the only way to apply to the creator program through the google forum?
Yup, that's the only way
we all know the open world is all pvp, but will there be a duel button option so that there are no reprucussions for killing each other?
prolly, I don't see why not
...auto-decline duel requests. Dueling is not considered a part of the flagging system. Duels won't be considered a part of the flagging system. The duels are going...
...auto-decline duel requests. Dueling is not considered a part of the flagging system. Duels won't be considered a part of the flagging system. The duels are going...
...auto-decline duel requests. Dueling is not considered a part of the flagging system. Duels won't be considered a part of the flagging system. The duels are going...
Thanks!
is there a way to "solo caravan" like in archeage with a backpack climbing over the mountains? 😄 or do i always need to use a wagon?
There are "solo player" caravan called Personal Caravans.
But even this kind does have wagon since it is a caravan.
But if you want to do something more similar to Archeage or at least the very begining of archeage where players were doing stuff with mules then there is also this option.
They do transport cargo but in a smaller scale than caravan.
So the "correct" way of thinking would be the mule for solo player instead of the Personal Caravan.
Source 1: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Personal_caravans
Source 2: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mules
okay, cool. thank you! 😄
do we know if we can change religion?
Yeah trade packs won't be a thing as far as we know just crates you load up into caravans.
There are six primary religions as well as a Tulnar/Underrealm religion.
Religion is intended to be a motivator, not an aesthetic.
Choosing a religion enables players to walk a light or a dark path through their choice of questlines and other actions.
Players will not be able to worship The Others at temples, but certain quest paths will allow da...
Hello. So I am trying to convince my friend to buy one of the packages. If he buys the $75 package before the 17th of January, will he be able to upgrade it after that date amd get a more expensive package that gives alpha access?
yep
Will there be a title system associated with fame and karma?
Titles are unlocked by achievements in aspects of the game.
Social organizations.
Religions.
Priests.
Bishops.
Acolytes.
Guilds.
Guild leaders.
Guild officers.
Knights.
Guild castles.
King or Queen.
Node governments.
Mayor.
Priests, bishops or acolytes in certain temples.
Patron guild leader.
Chief bounty hunter.
Node sieges / Events
Certain titl...
^above is all the information we have on titles @cerulean tangle
are there titles for being a part of the alpha/beta tests?
What are the odds of converting early package access cosmetics to embers? For example I jumped on the last train to alpha, and the bloody bone comestics aren't my vibe. Like a one time deal.
None have been mentioned, the only titles so far come from the kickstarter campaign.
Pretty low. They’ve never mentioned this as a possibility
Feel free to post on the forums. It might gain traction
They spoke about a method recently for players who received Freehold cosmetics to obtain the Ember value of them
Nice, so there's a possible path fowrad
But that wasn't due to ppl not liking the one they purchased, it was due to the poor communication around the exclusivity of Freeholds and their ability to obtain one causing a lot of backlash
But it's definitely possible
@void knot zero chance of that, but don't worry - there will be plenty of awesome cosmetics in game, and there will also be a cash shop that only holds cosmetics that you can use some of your embers on if you really feel the need. The bloody stuff can sit and collect dust in your cosmetics area.
Yea I figured the dust of ages would be the most likely scenario, but no harm in asking. Ideally it'd be minimum effort for QoL and a nice gesture, but I'm no dev.
HM dont think anyones mentioned that issue before~
Youll have to submit a support ticket
!support
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Iirc you can't remove them yourself, but it's not an issue. You can use any of the codes and still get the referral
If someone enters an invalid code it’ll tell them so ya you shouldn’t have any issues
Okie , thx 🙏🏽
Hey Azli, to save you some time with Support, at this time we're not able to remove referral codes from your page. You can choose to give out any of these, or you can pick one and just give that referral code out.
Also FYI: Removing the image above, since we don't have people share their referral codes here in this Discord.
Ok understood , thank u ☺️
I first heard about this game in 2020, and I've been eagerly waiting for it. Is it true that the game will launch this year, and will there be an Asia server?
No, the game will not launch this year. Alpha-2 will launch this year. There will be OCE servers at launch
Ashes of Creation will launch with the following server regions:
North America (NA).
Europe (EU).
Asia/Pacific (SEA).
Oceania (OCE) (Australia).
The likelihood is very high for Sydney or Melbourne based OCE servers.
OCE servers may not be provisioned until Beta for Ashes of Creation (the MMO) and live launch for Ashes of Creation Apocalypse.
At t...
And SEA
Thanks mate!
is sea going to be available on alpha 2?
4gb gpu will be enough?
@rotund prawn Operating System: Windows 10 64-Bit.
Processor: Intel Core i3-2125 3.3GHz / AMD Phenom II X4 3.3GHz.
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti or AMD Radeon R9 270.
Memory: 8 GB RAM.
Network: Broadband Internet connection.
Storage: 50 GB of available space
Those specs were from A1 though.
A dev said on social media that they're aiming for 60fps at 1440p on a 2070 GPU on Ultra settings
So in short, we don’t know. If you’re asking if it’ll be enough for launch, I’d wait until we’re well into Alpha 2 and ask again. You’ve got a few years still
When was this and on which platform? I'm interested cuz im contemplating on getting a 4080S instead of the 4090. Wanted to be able to play on 4k / ultra @ 60fps . So any info you got on it would be appreciated.
Ty. was that last year?
I got a question regarding artisan progression, referring this image. At the final point, will we be able to get "2 grandmaster + 3 master" or "2 grandmaster + 1 master"?
2 grandmaster + 1 master
Thanks and so +1 journeyman + 1 apprentice
So if you have
Grandmaster: Mining + Animal Husbandry
You'll also have
Master: Mining + Animal Husbandry + Lumberjacking for example
Ye 
Thanks 😊
Hey guys! How can i get my referral code ?
I clicked on generate referral code but it didnt gave me the code
Try relogging?
yep ;\
@digital sonnet Does he need to contact CS?
Thanks for trying to help me bro
Only other things I can think of is trying a different browser. Might be you need to contact customer support
Nice call! I tried now on chrome and worked! Thanks bro

There shouldn't be any issues generating referral codes, or if there is, it's not something we have reports of.
So I can pass on the browser issue mentioned here, it seems like it worked in Chrome. Which browser did it not work in?
(appreciate the tag here, @desert ivy)
Edge
Are guild sizes capped?
Yes
...person group sizes. Arenas will have 1 man, 3 man, 5 man and possibly 20 man Free-For-All (Deathmatch) group sizes. There won't specifically be guild vs guild...
...person group sizes. Arenas will have 1 man, 3 man, 5 man and possibly 20 man Free-For-All (Deathmatch) group sizes. There won't specifically be guild vs guild...
...inter-guild ladder will rank guilds based on their performance within competitive activities: Guild wars. Castle sieges. World bosses. When the guild participates...
Basically you can invest guild points to get certain perks, including increasing the size of your guild
Current max is 300 if you go all in on guild size
Ok cool thank you
stream is last friday of the month correct?
Usually but sometimes gets delayed to the following week
we'll find out on the 19th when the stream is
Will there be more servers available in EU? Afaik there is only two at the moment with a max pop of 8000 each according to population density limits. That makes only 16k slots.
Or will it be 8k per server instance and then several instances ?
There's no servers right now.
But there'll be enough for future phases and more on release.
It'll be upto intrepid how to judge how many to make, but they've voiced plans for queues, server funnelling and character throttling to be sure there isn't an oversaturation
It's a known bug you can ignore it.
Has Taming been removed from the Gathering Tree?
Taming is a part of Hunting in the gathering tree
Works on edge for me
Is there somewhere we can recommend content creators for the content creator program? I know we can sign up individually, but I was wondering if we wanted to refer a streamer/youtuber
Nope. They’d need to fill out the form themselves.
Just want to make extra sure, but the last day for UPGRADING kickstarter package accounts (specifically) is still TBD right? It is NOT in a week, right?
Correct
thank you!
Can friends not ready to spend $250 today for Alpha 2 access buy the 75$ pack and then upgrade after January 17th to obtain Alpha 2 access?
correct
As far as we know; yes. They're going to announce upgrade end date separately.
🙏🏻
There will be plenty of notice given before any upgrade paths are ended.
can you go cleric dps or is it hard lock healer?
cleric will be able to damage as well and not just stuck with healing
There's going to be a significant amount of offensive capability for the Cleric because we don't want to create that dynamic where cleric as a support class is inoperable without a companion or a party to go with. We want that Cleric to still be able to survive on their own: to be able to level and progress as a solo player.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Cleric
what i mean is when doing dungeon for example can i queue cleric as dps
or only healer
as i like the idea playing damage dealer that using holy magic
afaik there isnt a queue system discussed anywhere since majority of the dungeons will be open world
i imagine for other dungeons you'd have to find groups yourself rather than just join a queue :O
but that is what i mean if i can be offensive cleric and not healer per say was wondering
you can be an offensive cleric yeah
i dont think there's any in-game system that would classify you as an offensive build or a healer build and allocate you accordingly.
cool that is all i wanted to know
as i will want to play i guess as cleric till summoner comes out
and hoping for skins for summoner for celestial or angelic creatures 🙂
Controller support?
The Ashes of Creation MMO is not designed around controller support.
Ashes of Creation Apocalypse may have controller support.
Controller support will likely be something we work on closer to launch. – Steven Sharif
Hello! Just wondering if when is the last day that I can still buy the Alpha 2 access? Thanks!
17th of this month
Alright. tysm!
Just so I get this straight. If you pay the harmonized subscription fee you can't play in other servers outside the ones meant for your region, but your allowed to pay the original subscription fee to play in other servers such as NA/EU servers?
its to stop people who bot for example, to use a vpn and say go to turkey which pay like 1$ sub fees while the normal NA person pays 15-20$
Yes
So how long does it take to hit max level again? Like ingame time
we dont have a clear number but steven says that he is aiming for it to take 45 days of 4-6 hrs of play a day to get to max
Okay thank you
are orcs only gonna be red or green? or purple for the vek?
renkai will be red or green, vek are purple
so we wont have any yellow orcs?
no idea
they havent revealed the full range of skin colors available
hopefully i'll be able to make pikachu
Just want to ask again. If I buy the Alpha 2 Access, will I be able to participate even if AoC don't have SEA servers? I live in the Philippines btw.
Yes
There is no region locking on Intrepids end
So you'll be able to play on NA or EU servers (or whatever servers they have available)
So I can still play but with a high ping?

Oh okay. Thanks!
@junior ember might need to look at this ^
@shy basin I'm going to remove the messages above. Contacting Support is the right call for things like this.
If there is an issue with another user's account, we can reach out in an official way about this.
ok, thanks
Can you still donate on kickstarter for the packages? If so why is the entry for alpha about $100 cheaper on kickstarter than the packages on the AoC website. Not sure if this has been asked or if it’s just cuz you get more cosmetics potentially. Followed the game since 2018. I’m new here tho so forgive me if this seems like a silly question. Debating buying a package before the 17th.
No, Kickstarter closed in June 2017
Gotcha thanks I hadn’t had time to look at the kickstart fully just seen the packages still there. Appreciate the help.
I think I was mis-understood, I was talking about main Siege summons.... I really hope it isn't tied to just the commander of the siege and or guild leader
It's tied to neither
the wiki said it is tied to the target of the summons
is there ticket system for discord?
!cs
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Level 35
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I recently submitted a content creator application. Is Intrepid still taking them, and if so, how long do responses typically take?
what quarter did they end up saying A2 would likely be?
Q3
thanks
@near stump not talking about customer support
talkin about discord support, about a spammer that needs to be banned
mods do with this as you will, i'm about to restart my computer and lose the screenshot
The red report spam button is discord support. Getting them banned from discord will also get them removed from this discord
will ashes have fsr and/or dlss?
100% they will. If they don't it's a huge blunder 
Is there a reason Steven cited for AoC not coming to Steam?
Many popular MMORPGs (FFXIV, GW2, ESO) are on Steam

There are probably multiple reasons, one of them is that Steam takes around 30% of the income
They plan to also have their own launcher, as well as plans for future games.
We only have multiple quotes going back to the beginning of development and reinforced over the years. Steven has never articulated publicly with his exact reasons why beyond what DA has just posted. People can extrapolate and guess, but until you have him defining why, all you have are those previous statements.
@delicate wolf @hushed lotus @ruby swift
Thank you for the replies.
When would be the next chance to ask him about it, given these replies are quite old?
I understand Steam are quite greedy with their 30% cut, but majority of PC gamers are still using Steam (and in recent years Epic).
I mean, why not launch on Epic then? 12% cut
You can ask again when the stream questions open
You mean on the next livestream?
Yes
yoooo, wiki down for yall too?
what's the date the pre-order packs will be removed from the shop?
January 17
thought so was just confirming. Thanks!
May I ask if we get 15% of Intrepid Bucks from someone buying a preorder pack as well?
The username you use to sign into the website won't be the same as your in game username correct? As in we can still make our in game usernames later on.
Yes, you can name your in-game characters seperatly, if that is your question
Hey hey,
Been out for a bit, when is the next alpha that we can play in 🙂
Did Alpha 1 End already?
I remember playing in that first town they ever made
Alpha 1 ended years ago.
as i said u was gone for a bit 😛
Ok so i guess ill be back at end of this year then 😦
seen people releasing videos with christmas trees and stuff, thought its still going
guys how much should Alpha 2 last ? At least how much do you think?
likely 2+ years, probably longer
but thats just an estimate
and then go directly in Beta ?
alpha 2 will run parallel to the betas
alpha 2 runs until launch
When upgrading packages; do you just pay the difference in price between the package you have and the package you're upgrading to?
@frozen torrent you pay the difference
Thanks!
ill die inside if we have to wait another 2 years to play lol
I would definitely expect A2 to run at least 6 months to a Year
The alphas are tied into buying the packages to play right?
Yeah, the current schedule is
Alpha 1 (already done)
Alpha 2 (this year - so we're here)
Beta 1 (unknown)
Beta 2 (unknown)
*and then presumably release.
Beta 1 and 2 I think should be a lot shorter; but Alpha 2 is the big testing period - so I'd expect it to be the longest one.
What would i have to pay in order to participate in alpha 2 or is it already closed
The Voyager Package ($250) is the minimum package which includes alpha 2 access
jesus christ lol my wife would butcher me
(The preorders stop on Jan 17th; but if you buy a lesser package they have announced you will still be able to upgrade until they announce upgrades are closed)
one more actually if i were to b uy the package would i still have to buy the game on release?
There is no box cost for the game - just a subscription (similar to how retail or classic world of warcraft functions - you just buy a subscription for the time you want to play).
All of the preorder packages list how much game time (subscription) they come with
ohh word! ok thanks for that!
There will be no open beta just so you know
I see this questions was missed. Yes, you would receive 15% of any purchase someone who uses your referral code makes. This includes pre order packs, cosmetics, monthly sub, etc
Intrepid Bucks are earned through the Referral program. These can be used to:
Purchase Embers.
Purchase in-game items from the Cosmetic store.
Reduce subscription costs (to zero).
This only applies to the user's own subscription.
Obtain cash rewards on a quarterly basis after Ashes of Creation has launched.
If you accidentally created an account but forgot to refer your friend, can you get that account deleted to recreate it by submitting a ticket or something? I'd for sure get locked out if I had to make a new email just for that lol
ive heard that alpha 2 will last until launch, is this true?
Yes
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Ashes of Creation's core game systems are expected to be in place at the start of Alpha-2. By the end of Alpha-2, the game is expected to be feature complete, but it will not be content complete until launch. Alpha-2 will last until launch and will run in parallel with Beta-1 and Beta-2.
Alpha-2 is intended to be a true functional representation...
See above
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Do we know if guild names are reserved?
Yes, there is a guild name reservation system planned. It was a reward from KS, and has been mentioned that there will be a way for you to reserve slots on a "live release" server for your guild.
Guild name reservation was available in the Braver of worlds and higher backer packages during the Kickstarter and Summer crowdfunding campaigns.[1][2]
Sorry, beta, not live.
Server reservations allow guild members as well as unaffiliated players to reserve character slots on a server starting in the Beta testing stages of the game.[6]
If you buy a beta pack, can you upgrade during A2 to get A2 access? If so can I get an official link?
You can upgrade your pack after Jan 17th, but we don't know the cutoff date
We don't know when the cut off for the upgrades will be, just that there will be plenty of warning. So its possible that the cutoff may fall before A2 starts.
Do you have a official statement? I wanna show my friends
On the site
One sec
thanks homie
Yeah, that XD
@digital sonnet @junior ember Friend reset his password and get this when trying to login with new PW
no context on the red icon
Hey Vyril, it may be a browser or cache issue that's hiding context from the red icon.
MOST of the time when they red icon pops up after trying to reset a password, it's because of this weird forum bug that impacts people who haven't logged into the forums in a couple years. If that's the case, share this workaround with your friend: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/54949/error-signing-into-forums-contact-email
If that work around doesn't work, please have them contact Support so we can sort this out on our end: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us
Thank you! I will have him try that
Hey all, does anyone know anything about the content creator program? I recently submitted an application and am wondering how long is the typical response time?
But iirc they haven't started sending responses to it yet
Hey Porcinis, like @desert ivy said we have not starting doing any outreach for the Content Creator Program. Currently we're just gathering applications.
In the meanwhile, you can always update your application via the form.
Thanks for that information. I appreciate it.
Morning all. Just heard about A2. Pretty hype it's finally happening.
is there any way to trade the "cosmetic" pack I bought with any previous?
I would guess not, but doesn't hurt to ask
nope
sadge, but expected
just checked...been sitting on my kickstarter pack since 2018. Coming up on 6 years LOL. But at least it appears to be coming 🙂
Game releasing 2025?
I'll take that as a no, any reason why its taking so long?
dude said hes kickstarted since 2018 and theyre still in alpha
They started off as a small studio. Their goal was to hit 100 employees by the end of 2018, they didn't hit that until 2021
💀
Can't exactly make an MMO with the `15 employees they had in 2017
Game is most likely going to be fantastic but fuck me its taking long 😭
And good luck hiring as a no name studio when Riot, Blizzard, Insomniac, Rockstar, etc. etc. are hiring in the same area
Hello, after the January 17th date, will there be any new pre-order packs?
No new packs, no. They may sell cosmetics/merch/alpha access separately in the future though
I know its tiresome to wait, but creating a game is HARD. Like really hard. And creating an mmo is even harder. Not to mention for an indie studio. And with a scale that this game will have.
And ye im kinda sick of the waiting thats why i bought into alpha 2. Also im fine with testing it
I'm just glad a game like this is being made! Let's be positive guys! Am I right?
Any "good" AAA-game takes 6-8y at least to make pretty simple
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just a wild thought, is there an plan to revamp the Nestled Vine Vestment? Compared to cosmetics that are recently released it seems kinda low quality 🤣 us Adventurer Pre-Order Package buyers would not mind something swaggier 🤣
There are several answers regarding this but just adding new one.
An "fair" guess I believe would be Q4 2025~Q2 2026.
But there is no confirmation from the company
No guess is the best guess
Just enjoy the ride
You can search wiki
That's just the concept art, not the 3d render
someone should compile the top 30 most asked questions from here and put it in a nice easy to read FAQ format then it can just be posted once a day lul || that "person" isnt me, i dont like doing paperwork ;P ||
Kewl, hopefully faster
That being said, hopefully this game will be something thats not half assed like anything else they release nowadays
Cause most games we are getting is unfinished trash :p
we had a FAQ before but we had to many with room temp IQ that did not read it before asking in here so it was removed
was it posted daily? or just pinned?
yeah just have it where people can copy paste the FAQ from pin in here. Theres plent of us community that can just take turns to copy and paste the FAQ in here - if people dont read it just point to it if they have a question thats on it
Maybe one day we can build the FAQ into a wiki with all known information that we can just source and reference for all questions
Nah that too big of an undertaking for any sane person
Let's move discussions to a discussion channel 
Per Intrepid, "[a]s we get ready for our Alpha Two testing phase, we will be doing NDA’ed spot testing with our Phoenix Initiative members and previous Alpha One testers." by "previous Alpha One testers" do they mean only those who actually played A1? Or does it include those with access to A1 now (even though they never played it)?
All those who have Alpha one access.
This is for anyone that has A1 - make sure your account is connected so you have access to the testing channels for whenever a spot test announcement comes up
Ah, sweet. Yeah, I finally got them connected and keep a close eye on the channels lol
They have not said they would do this, no
To my knowledge it hasn’t been discussed. Does any game that you know of do this? It sounds like a very unlikely thing for a game to implement
Is this is stemmed from the Nexon Maplestory news?~ this is not a normal or practice as far as Im aware and no mention of this has been stated by Intrepid
So nooo but if you wanna be super sure feel free to ask in the next Q&A livestream thread
This would become a discussion topic easily, but here is what I remember. There will NOT be "catch up" mechanics to "even the playing field" for people who have less time to game. The only in game system that caters to such would be purely cosmetic. That is what the cosmetic store is. It allows those who have less time to play, to buy cool stuff instead. But anything affecting gameplay or such is NOT planned. There are quotes out there that support that, and you can bet that playing less, will not get you more here.
In that case! Unknown has pretty much summed it up for you c:
This question has probably been asked a lot but how do you get the tag for your pre-order on discord and also for those that have played A1 and spot testing, how do you gain access to the game? (Assuming it’s the same for A2), email with link, or website portal opens with download ? Thanks !
Connect your account here \o/
Sometimes you may need to try different browsers
https://discord.ashesofcreation.com/
All titles previously awarded are legacy titles. Those displayed here are for specific access to restricted channels. The A1 testing is over, and there are no A2 tags needed yet.
Typically an email will be one way to get the necessary information for download along with testing channels within discord- however since A2 is not under NDA we're not sure at this moment what the process will be for A2 testers
Spot testers are among the Alpha 1 players who are still under NDA
Very very useful, thank you.
How do I apply for the test? For game?
if you are talking about alpha 2 then you need to buy a pack to enter and the cheapest pack with alpha 2 access is 250 dollars
Got@rid of is it worth that much?
If its worth it is up to you. You have until January 17th to decide, unless you buy a cheaper pack and intend to upgrade later.
i would say yes with all the game time and cosmetic currency you get in the pack you only pay 60 bucks for alpha 2 and beta 1 and 2 testing
but that is something you have to make up with your self if you find it worth it
So if I wait it will be cheaper? Wait so it’s only 60$?
what is your first language
English

that is not what i said i said with the worth of the gametime and cosmetic currency in the pack you are only effectively paying 60 for the testing rights
the rest of the 250 is in gametime and the currency to buy cosmetics
also go to #read-me-first to see the rest of the discord
Ok ty sorry for the confusion lol
Are we able to change our main class whenever or are we stuck on we pick one?
you can only change your secondary class
main is permanent
over 100,000 of us have decided it's worth that much. at least that is the last number i heard thrown around as far as how many people have purchased the access to alpha 2
If I were to buy the $75 pack and upgrade to the $250 pack in like february or march after the packs are gone, do I still get the beta one and alpha two keys, or will they be removed from the packs after january 17?
if you upgrade to the 250 pack, then youll get everything thats in that pack. otherwise the upgrade would be pointless
Ye, but they said they reached the amount of alpha two testers they wanted, so I was wondering if that meant they would remove the alpha two key from the packs
But you can still upgrade after the 17th if you have a pack pre-ordered right?
yes
Alright sweet, thanks for responding to my question ^^
If you upgrade your Pre-Order pack, you get everything that's the DIFFERENCE between the Pre-Order pack(s) you have, and what you upgrade to.
For example, if you didn't have access to Alpha Two, and you upgrade to a pack that has Alpha Two, you'll get access to Alpha Two. As for cosmetics, you only get the cosmetic item TYPES that you didn't previously have. If you upgrade, it will not give you the cosmetic items of the same type (Accessory, Pet, Mount, etc.) that came with the previous pack you purchased. Only the additional cosmetic items from the upgrade to The Unseen Order Pre-Order Pack will be granted.
Pre-Order packs are scheduled to end at <t:1705518000:F>. After they end, people who have Pre-Order packs will still be able to upgrade to higher-tier packages or purchase add-on cosmetics from The Unseen Order pack. This won't be available forever, but we don't currently have a date to share for when we'll end the ability to upgrade packs.
Alright, Im gonna get the $75 pack then for now seeing as I currently can't afford the other ones. Hope the date when the upgrades end will be announced on time so I know when to get the other pack 🙂
We'll give people plenty of notice before ending the ability to upgrade Pre-Order packs or Kickstarter packs. There are no plans to do this any time soon.
Good, seems like I will make it in time then 😄
Any early communities based out of Australia
I can dm you the OCE discord if you like
Sure thing
would certain mounts carry two people?
There'll be group mounts.
ahk thanks!
Somebody knows who are in spot testing now? Do A1 owners have access to it or not yet?
Ohhh sry I thought NDA just meant they can't share images and feedback, I didn't know they can't even tell if they are in spot testing or not
question, does my account have a region that I am locked in? or can I change servers whenever I want
AoC won't have region locking 
Your characters are locked into the servers they are created on tho
makes sense
so the region where I created my account doesnt matter
because I heard there was something done to prevent people subbing for cheap no?
if you live in a region with a discounted sub price you cant switch regions from that one, otherwise if you pay full sub price you can join any region
perfect
@vague thistle
non personalized for the most part
but certain events will have some personalized loot
I see nothing the image does not work like a bug
@vague thistle Ack, sorry. It is a screenshot of the main Ashes website, not the wiki, where it says "Ashes of Creation is currently in periodic spot testing with our Alpha One testers. You must have an Alpha One key to access the current game during designated playtest times."
I saw this sentence but I believe it is on the website since like many months/years isn't it?
Not sure, but a mod in here earlier had said a similar thing, let me find the text...
Sorry, I didn't find the one I was remembering, but another that says that Alpha 1 testers are among those under NDA, so perhaps they are still waiting for their turn to be included? Not sure (I have Alpha 2) but they do say to have your account hooked up to your discord for Alpha 1 key holders to be notified of the periodic spot testing that you can be included in.
All right thanks for the great information
have they said when this months stream will be?
Not yet, usually last Friday. They’ll announce likely on the 19th

@azure vector In last month's Livestream, Steven said that it will probably be a multi caravan pvp.
Guys, they asked when it would be, not what it was about.
Oops
When will we be able to ask a magic 8 ball answers to our questions in here?
"Answer is unknown"
@rancid cypress We don't believe in the magic 8 ball here. Only the ModBot.
So (for clarification) for gathering, say, does this mean that the person who gets the last chop on the tree or rock gets the loot, and no-one else does? Does it also mean that once its harvested by one person, its not there for the next until it respawns?
The footage from a couple months ago shows a channeling type of activity that you have to start and finish and you get the resources. There’s no “last chop” mechanic
So if you start the channel first and aren’t interrupted, you’ll get the resources
Thanks. But to repeat the question, can anyone else get this loot if they are not the first person to channel? Or do they miss out and need to wait for the resources to respawn.
They would need to wait for the respawn
Thanks!
I believe resource spawns aren’t fixed, so it would respawn somewhere else. Can someone else verify this for me?
When release?
Alpha 2 will be in Q3 this year. Betas 1 & 2 to follow this. Then release.
Incorrect. Whoever finishes first gets the resources. The whole point of people being able to chop faster than you due to upgrades and others.
Lower level resources will be abundant. Higher level resources that are gatherable by Apprentice level or higher artisans will spawn randomly but in places that make sense for that type of resource. Surveying is a mechanic that solo or group players can utilize to track these resources down.[3]
We want to be able to spawn stuff randomly and we want to put it in places in the world that will make people travel and bolster up our local player-to-player economies: have people actually be out in the world looking for stuff and not standing in the same place waiting for a tree or a flower to respawn over and over again. So, we're having the best of the both Worlds where we have our lower tier stuff that will fill out the base look of our world, so that it's always looking good; and then the higher tier stuff, from apprentice onward, will always spawn randomly in places that we've deemed look good and make sense for what that thing is. So, surveying is a way that you can track that stuff down. It will help you find places, will help you find particular resources, will help you find resources at a certain rarity; and so it should be something you could do as a gatherer on your own, or group up with other people to bolster up the power of your survey, or the range or reach of it.[3] – Kory Rice
hi how do i refund a purchase from the shop?
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im trying to press the contact us link to contact you guys about it but it opens a tab that doesn't load. what should i do?
Try a different browser. Sometimes there are issues based on browser.
If that doesn't work. Contact a mod here and they can tell when is a good time to escalate to a CM or other than can assist you directly on how to file a ticket.
Anyone know about a list of Steven interviews ?
Cool thank you, just found this https://ashesofcreation.wiki/index.php?title=Interviews&redirect=no
how likely is it to get an invitation to spot testing when i just bought the alpha pack
Unlikely, most likely only PI & Alpha 1 will be involved
alright thx
as @woeful zephyr said, heres source
from the website:
i would assume getting close to A2 also A2 testers or at least some A2 tester as numbers will be involved aswell
That alert on the website has been there for 3 years - it’s not talking about current testing
well thats not reassuring
Spot testing for A2 testers will likely open much closer to A2 launch. Margaret confirmed that A2 key holders would’ve invited to spot testing on a recent live stream. We just don’t know when and how much before A2 it will be.
^
ah ok, i watch the livestreams too but the talking part is in the backround like a podcast most of the time so i probably missed it
thx
also thx to InsertDisk
But we payed for this
There have to give us acces
Or giving a refund
Or something else
You'll get access to A2, but spot tests are another thing
PI for example start spot testing as early as this month
A1 will start sometime later
Please make sure you are reading what entitlements your purchases provide you so you may mitigate future disappointment. All relevant access was disclosed in the purchase.
no, you payed for the alpha 2 test. spot test means a smaller player base test that takes place before the a2 testing phase
I bought the 250$ pack for A2 access, is it possible to upgrade it later on if I decide to do so or after Jan 17 there will be no possibility of upgrading to the 375$ pack?
Are we able to swap packs?
For example, say I got the current $250 pack but am not that keen on the art, can I swap it with someone who got an earlier pack but prefers the art of the current pack.
No, swapping packs or exchanging your cosmetics is not possible. Account trading is also against the TOS 
Are we able to merge two AoC accounts? Had intended to use them separately later on, but would rather consolidate them if that's possible. Unless multiple account linking will be a feature later on.
Nope
thank you!
I cleared out my discord and accidentally left the server, how do i get my alpha tester role back so i can see playtests and alphas
Link your discord
Amazing ty
I know this was asked before, but do we know when the deadline for upgrading packs is?
nope
rip
Yes.
alrighty
I was curious with the barding cosmetics. If it's assumed that it will work with all types of mounts, or just specific types? Are they really gonna model it for all types of mounts and mount skins, or, just the ones selected in the images?
Mount barding (also referred to as Saddles) is armor for mounts in Ashes of Creation. Mount barding is similar in concept to player armor.
The higher the level of barding, the better looking it will be.
Barding will have multiple components that can be equipped. Each component will increase the stats of the mount, such as hit points and speed.
Ba...
all we know is in there ^\
Yeah, I checked the wiki and didn't see it. Thought I would ask and try my luck lol
so if your mount has a barding slot then youc an apply one
Ahhh, interesting
Is it normal that you dont get like a purchase confirmation by mail? Preorderered two weeks ago and the rest looks fine. Got the pack on their website in the Order History and inventory and payment went through via paypal. Still kinda confusing me not getting a mail after I bought it.
Going through the cosmetic skins in the wiki. I can see a few mounts pictured without barding. So, maybe that's partly what affects it too.
check your spam folder
generally they send confirmation by email but sometimes it ends up in there
The emails I got were from Intrepid. Try searching for that in your mail.
Cant find anything in the spam folder. The only mail I got was verifying my mail Adress
Thats good to know. Maybe support on their website can help with it
when did you buy it?
4th january
Yea thats true. I might have missed it.
The mail verification mail wasnt in the spam tho and got through
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Alright, thx!
Mine was immediate.
I see. Yea I opened a ticket asking to (re)send me a confirmation mail.
I heard there was some super secret test going on.
would that be one of the alpha 2 spot tests?
if someone answered you here it wouldnt be very super secret
speculation would be... are they recording the january caravan-pvp only with devs or are they inviting some PI/Alpha 1 😉
You will be able to upgrade after the 17th, yes.
If you have a Pre-Order pack, you can upgrade it later. This includes upgrading a lower pack, to one with Alpha Two access later.
The option to upgrade Kickstarter packs or Pre-Order packs won't be available forever, but right now there's no date to share for when the option to upgrade packs will end. The answer to this, and other questions, are at the bottom of the article here: https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-09-12-the-unseen-order
We don't know when the upgrade period will end, but they have said we'll get lots of warning.
Hi, I recently just bought the Voyager pre-order, is there anyway to confirm this purchase through the AoC website? Also, are there additional steps to ensure I have access to A2? Thanks!
You can check your inventory here https://ashesofcreation.com/settings/inventory
If you bought the Voyager pack then you have access to A2, you don't need to do anything else, it's already applied to your account
ty ty
If we buy the lowest tier of package for beta access is it possible to upgrade the package to alpha access testing later on?
Yes
will there be an oceania based server for alpha 2?
no not for alpha but there will be for beta we have an oce guild if your intrested
testing on 220 ping will be fun hahaha, might be interested, feel free to pm me
I apparently have 2FA enabled on my account, but my google authenticator on my phone doens't have it. This also means I don't have the recovery key. What do I need to do to be able to log in?
are you on iphone?
no
oh i dunno then sorry
If you dont have the means to log in at this time your best option now is to submit a support ticket so they can help you.
is there an alpha 2 role to request?
Wondering that as well. Just bought the pack for Alpha 2.
no
Can a mod or CM bring up this issue? Emails aren’t readable on iPhone
This was the “Pre-Order Packages Are Coming to an End” email just sent
Hey Renritar, we don't have the same issues when reviewing this email on our end.
We'd like to investigate this more to see what's causing this issue for you, and possibly other people getting these emails. If you don't mind opening a Support ticket, the team looking into this email issue would like to communicate from there: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000558614
While you can select any fields on this Support form, if you'd prefer you can select "I'm experiencing a technical issue" and "other."
This is how it looks for me in the gmail app
I’m using the gmail app as well
do you have forced dark mode on
I dont see any option like that. I dont think ive messed with that
From last information given that is against their TOS when it comes to account transfers. Beware giving anyone money for something and Intrepid has stated in the past you may be subject to account action, and they will NOT support if you get scammed trying to buy KS or other accounts.
no
thanks
darn
So the Preorder package sales are ending, but what about kickstarter package upgrades?
thanks
Hello,
just received an reminder email that it's last chance to preorder game and it got me thinking if we got literally any update on EU customers who had purchased from my.com years ago.
Its been 4 years since Intrepid parted ways with my.com and announced EU players would get their account migrated, that they would be able to purchase already 'expired' cosmetics after migration etc. I asked about the status of migration around a year ago and there was still no update back then, my question on forum got parried and closed giving me no chance for further questions (rly?). At this point I am kinda at peace with the thought that Intrepid doesn't give a shit and I got scammed for couple hundred backs, but I thought it's worth asking last time and tbh I would just like to get a definitive answer, even explicit 'fuck off' would be nice.
For context, here's the original announcement post: https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2020-08-21-new-adventure-awaits
In the coming weeks, we will announce the migration steps for moving your account to Intrepid Studios, rest assured all purchases and achievements will remain with your account. - incoming weeks here is quite funny
@digital sonnet
thats actually heart-warming to see it hasn't been completely forgotten, thanks
Hey Blaymie, I don't have any additional update regarding My Games, outside of what we shared here: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/articles/360036297853-MY-GAMES-FAQ
If you're concerned about it, you should be able to request a refund from My Games, and purchase a package directly from the Ashes of Creation shop.
mygames giving refunds? 
Will buyers of alpha one testers be able to play alpha two as well?
yeah, I don't even try
yes as long as you didnt get alpha 1 through a key giveaway
You have the adventurer pack so yes, you'll have access to A2
If you want to be really sure, you should be able to check your Account Inventory to see if you have Alpha Two there.
You should be able to see everything that’s on your account by checking your account inventory here: https://ashesofcreation.com/settings/inventory
Tbf that page doesn't always say everything. For example it doesn't say I have alpha 1/2 or beta1/2 access 
Is the forum down already? It keeps demanding i set my contact email in profile settings WHICH I HAVE
Ok, I just know I payed $500 to be an alpha 1 tester. And for me not to be able to play alpha 2 would be really disappointing know how much I’ve already contributed.
you have access
Ok thank you!
Mine says i have A 1&2 and B 1&2
When is Alpha 2 available?
still sooner than star citizen release...
Also cheaper even if you get the most expensive package
So if I buy the $75 pack. I can upgrade later still?
Pretty sure that's about to stop? Like today or tomorrow
Yes
You can still upgrade as long as you have a pack.
It's just if you don't own a pack you won't be able to buy one starting tomorrow (17th)
Oooooh
I thought it was going away as a whole
On that note what does "intrepid pack" mean?
Well the 17th at 11am PST is like, over 24h away lol
if you mean the discord role its just a old legacy role that dont mean anything
I mean i was here a long time ago and i don't have it so i'm curious
Just the pack I bought. It was the original alpha 1 pack store pack until August 2018
So you have Leader of Men
I have Intrepid Pack
It's all so long ago i have forgotten a lot
Damn you really did upgrade to PI
You'll need to contact CS afaik to get access to the PI channels just fyi https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/articles/360023436173
I have decided to make this game my final attempt to trust a new mmo. If this one turns out dissapointing i'm taking my L and sticking with ff14 for the rest of time
@mortal forge Just remember that A2 is testing, is not feature complete, and does not represent the game in its final form.
I reserve full judgement untill full release yes
I'm so curious about this game ngl. How was Alpha Ones test for those who played?
@finite roost If you watch the development live streams with gameplay in them from that time, and compare it to the last two or three live streams, you will see that the game is in a completely different state from the A1 time period, so any replies would not give you an idea of how A2 will be.
Not much to do. Only 3 archetypes and combat was very basic. Networking was good though, had a 250~ man fight with no lag
How do I know what parmck I have an are there special channels?
does anyone know if there will be oceanic servers for aplha 2 ?
hate to spend all this money and be on 200 ping lol
Is there a Processing Skill for Gems? Gathered by Mining? and then straight to Crafting with Jewel Cutting ?.?
dam i thought all that tpying you were answering my question lol
Not planned. OCE servers last we heard weren't planned till Beta
There's quite a few people from OCE that played during past tests, and afaik they didn't really have an issue
lol... Naval content will be introduced in A2 in phases for testing and prob removed at times to focus testing on other things
ahh okay thank you @desert ivy
might be a short time with some in it, but it's not going to be the major focus
so the upgrade for the packs is still a thing right ?
As long as you already own a pack, yes you can continue upgrading after the 17th
If you don't already own a pack, then buying a new pack will be discontinued on the 17th at 11am PST
I guess I got preorder plus
Voyager Plus? If so you have A2 access
@desert ivy so all packs will discontinue on the 17th?
but you can still upgrade your orginall ones after 17th?
Correct. If you don't own a pack after the 17th, you can't buy a new one. If you do own a pack then you can still upgrade
aww sweet i thought they were just stopping you get aplha 2 packs , I already have a beta one
Nah they're discontinuing all packs, not just Alpha 2. But if you own a Beta pack you can upgrade it to an Alpha 2 one after the 17th (if you want to)
Although they'll probably re-open alpha/beta access at a later date as they say in their FAQ from September
ahh cool cool , Thank you @desert ivy
Is there a separate Oceanic Aoc discord ?
There is, I'll pm you
ty
do the pre-order packages upgrade in a specific way or can I just upgrade in the future from a wayfarer up to a voyager?
You can upgrade from wayfarer to voyager
Thank you
Hi
My referral mate bought a pack, but I can't see any changes in my account balance. Is it OK?
Intrepid bucks are tracked but there's currently no way to see how many you've accumulated
Could I get the details too please?
if i buy a pack before 17th can i upgrade after
Yes
Yes you can still upgrade after
will each archetype be shown before the a2 release?
will they be finished enough to pick and play?
unknown
They have made statements in the past that they will have done, what they have done. Could be only a partial list, could be them all. But by the end of A2, they will all be there, and that is all that really matters.
ok, yeah, had seen that certain content was balanced for all 8 archetypes being present within a group, so was thinking that will be weird if those archetypes arent even there at first
Balance is also not a concern for the start, but more towards the end and betas.
You are not getting a game, you will be testing. That means shit aint gonna work the right way till much later in the process.
Hello, 👋.
If the game package is coming to an end, why don't you allow your players to view and buy the previous older packages?
Like a "last chance to grab thing if you missed it"
How long does it take Embers from Referals to hit your account generally?
Because all previous packs were sold under a promise of exclusivity and won't ever be sold again.
You don't get embers from referrals. When your referred friend buys something you're given 15% of that value in intrepid bucks. There's currently no way to view how many you've accumulated
You can ask the support
What are the working hours of Intrepid Studios
Customer Support?
Vaknar has their working hours in his discord profiles about me. 12:00pm-8:00pm CST, so 10:00am-6:00pm PST
I mean the support helpdesk (tickets)
I’d assume the same
Oké!
Question. I bought the base pre-order package of this (came with the Shroud of the Vigilant), and later bought Voyager Plus for a different pre-order package. I’m likely misunderstanding this quote from the email, but I’m not able to buy the other individual cosmetic items from that pre-order package, right?
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Voyager_plus_pre-order_pack:_November_2022_-_December_2022
you cant buy old cosmetics if i understand your question right
you would have been able to at the time but not now
Grazie! Thanks 😊 that’s what I was thinking, but the verbiage confused me a little, so I thought I’d clarify.
you can only buy the ones that are in the store now
Is there a way to view the older packages?
Cosmetics provide a wide array of customization in Ashes of Creation.
There are no pay-to-win gameplay benefits from any purchasable items.
All skin cosmetic items are cosmetic items only and do not grant the user any other benefit. The lore text is flavor text, and background of the creatures and items in the world of Verra.
Types of cosmetics:...
...the last day for purchases of Alpha-1 through Intrepid pre-order packs (History). Sales of Alpha-1 resumed on May 5, 2021 through the Adventurer pre-order...
...the last day for purchases of Alpha-1 through Intrepid pre-order packs (History). Sales of Alpha-1 resumed on May 5, 2021 through the Adventurer pre-order...
...the last day for purchases of Alpha-1 through Intrepid pre-order packs (History). Sales of Alpha-1 resumed on May 5, 2021 through the Adventurer pre-order...
Hey everyone, I currently have the "Braver of Worlds" package and want to upgrade to "Leader of Men". After tomorrow will i not be able to do that?
You will still be able to. The deadline tomorrow only ends new pack purchases for people who have none
pack upgrades will be available for awhile longer
They will give plenty of notice when pack upgrades will end for the store and KS
Perfect, thank you 🙂
Here's a better link for this https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pre-order_pack_history
Sry for the dumb question, don't see any link on the site. I Just for voyager plus pre order pack, when/how will I be able to get into the game , and reserve name ?
Name reservations will be closer to launch. No game to play rn. Alpha 2 coming Q3 2024
Name reservations aren't for any of the testing phases
Tonight ends the ability to purchase your first pack. You can ugrade after today by paying the difference if you need to split up the cost over time
Anyone know what time they stop selling?
January 17, 2024 at 11:00 a.m. Pacific
okay, thanks. That gives me a bit because I need to get an account for my partner as well
Thank you so much, really busy with my reno now, so Q3 will work perfectly ☺️
YES! 👍 😍
So just to get that confirmation. If a person buys the Expeditionary Pre-Order Pack(150$) will they be able to upgrade that pack into a Pre-Order Pack that gives me access to Alpha 2? If so how?
Yes. The store page will have the "Voyager" pack available to you on the store to upgrade to
Can I upgrade my pre-order pack after sales for the pre-order packs end?
Yes. You will continue to have the option to upgrade your Pre-Order Pack to a higher-tier package after sales of Pre-Order Packs end. If you upgrade, it will not give you the cosmetic items of the same type (Accessory, Pet, Mount, etc.) that came with the previous pack you purchased. Only the additional cosmetic items from the upgrade to The Unseen Order Pre-Order Pack will be granted.[2]
Even after the packs cannot be bought anymore?
I mean obviously but
It's ya money, ask the obvious questions.
The time to upgrade a pack will end at some point in the future. They will give plenty of notice for when that time will end
You will pay the difference in pack price when you upgrade
So I just purchased The Alpha Two key and the Beta Keys and I was wondering if we would be able to get any South American Servers or would South American Players will be forced to play in NA servers? I truly hope we can get some servers in Brazil in order to supply to the rest of us.
There will be no SA servers for Alpha 2
The world will be the same on each server, but Nodes will develop differently. Different servers will have different narratives. Things that happen on one server may not happen on another.
To answer your question about "what stops all servers from from progressing the same nodes," the answer to that question is "other players." Certain content is...
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Ashes of Creation will launch with the following server regions:
North America (NA).
Europe (EU).
Asia/Pacific (SEA).
Oceania (OCE) (Australia).
The likelihood is very high for Sydney or Melbourne based OCE servers.
OCE servers may not be provisioned until Beta for Ashes of Creation (the MMO) and live launch for Ashes of Creation Apocalypse.
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you can however play on NA and EU servers
It doesn't look like South America is planned for launch either. But like Arc said, you won't be region locked.
Thxs!
Yeah probably NA
EU servers for South America is usually around 300 to 500 ping
NA is about 150 ping
Are the alpha and beta packs being removed from the shop or just the alpha packs?
all packs
If im in canada can i play with my friend in eu severs ??
Yes, there's no region blocking
Is this game ever actually coming out?
well its highly likely.
the alpha will be this year in Q3
other info is unknown
MMOs take a long time to create. This unique in that the developers are providing a look into the entire development process every month which is why it feels like it’s taking longer. Other games like Riot MMO wont have ppl asking this question as much because we forget about it for long periods of time as development isn’t public
Think about Starfield too. It had seven years of development from a highly renown, large company, AND single-player RPGs are generally a lot easier to create than MMORPGs. And Bethesda has 450 employees.
Ashes has been in development for as long as Starfield was, and is being done by a team a fourth the size as Bethesda at its PEAK.
Just some points to consider 😊
Elder Scrolls VI had their reveal trailer almost six years ago. I remember watching that! And it’s wild to think it’s been so long since then, and it feels like the time has flown because we don’t check the Discord every day or get monthly updates.
we know how long after the 17th the upgrades will be available?
prob just long enough to go "Aha, gotcha bish"
They haven’t give us a timeframe. They’ve only stated that we’ll have ample warning when the upgrade window will end.
If you want, I can pm you the discord for AoC BR community
does anyone know how to generate a referral code? I clicked generate on the website, where it prompts you to create the referral code but it doesnt seem to actually provide a code or a link
Try a different browser
Include more keywords after this command to search for answers to some of our FAQ (ex. !cs password reset), or open a Customer Support ticket directly here if you are having account or technical issues: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
heres what its showing
You’ll have to create a ticket. And I’d probably escalate it to a CM in here if your friend is trying to buy a pack before they’re take away tomorrow
But do that after you create the ticket
ok cool, so reach out to one of the CM's after i create the ticket. Thanks!
oh nevermind it just populated
weird, sorry for the bother but thanks for the responses
We are a caring community @deep ether... remember that when we gank you in the wild somewhere to take your stuff. 😛
Im not from Brazil haha and don't speak portuguese. Thanks tho, much appreciated. Maybe I can create my own Hispanic AoC community 
You can't spell Hispanic without panic. 




Hope the game has horns or bugles
where would I be able to upgrade a pack?
at the store website
oh they changed that link. here it is https://ashesofcreation.com/shop
ohh its right in the shop
make sure you log in first
thanks lex!
Adding the link to the shop page, to this command.
Since I bought the $75 pack, when I go to upgrade say 100 days out (Beyond the refund window of 90 days), will I be able to refund after I upgrade? Because I may decide in the future that I’d just prefer to wait for the release of the game instead of A2/B1-2
I'd imagine you'd be able to get a refund for the A2 purchase (so the $175 upgrade), but not the original $75 purchase since you bought it 90+ days layer
@digital sonnet Could confirm tho
Did you guys play A1? and if so, how was it?
There are plenty of public videos out there to watch on youtube, you can probably make your own assertions from that.
That said A1 was a backend test, A2 will be much different.
What will A2 consist of?
While we generally try to work with people, I wouldn't expect a refund if you're planning to do it outside of the normal refund policy period.
Even though it seems like you have this info, putting it here for others that may also have this question:
- Our refund policy: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018517854-What-is-the-refund-policy-
- How to contact Support to ask about refunds: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/
You can also pick a language in #read-me-first and get access to the rest of the discord (where wayyy more people talk)
damn, so you have a lifetime sub?
i bought a pack is there anyway to connect to discord for role or something
and is there anything else i need to do or am i good to go once i bought a pack
Nothing to connect for A2. No A2 discord role right now. You’ll get an email when testing begins
hello i just bought the 250$ pack and i didnt get an email confirming that, is that normal?
check your spam folder
ah found lol thanks!
also is there a way to apply to the nda alpha 2 test?
Its not happening for 6 months. There is no information about it yet.
No - they are inviting PI testers in for first spot tests then at some point opening spot tests to those that have alpha 1 access - then maybe will invite those with a2 access to spot test but they may just start alpha 2 then instead
how do we reserve names if we bought a name reserve package? 🧐
They will open name reservations closer to launch time
oo ty
will any of the benefits change for the higher tier packages after January 17th? asking because I plan on upgrading from my beta package to an alpha access package later on, but wanted to know if the alpha access will still be available in those packages.
If they were to make any changes to what packages contain, the same "plenty of notice" would apply.
But since they have no plans to offer packages in the future, there would be no reason to remove or change the upgrades.
ok thank you
alpha one already occured right?
correct
i just bought a package but its not showing under purchases? im guessing itll show after a bit?
Most likely, would just keep an eye on your inventory under accounts
I'm sure it'll show up soon
ok will do. i shouldbe gucci since i got a email anyway lol
Will there be gesture interaction with other players like high five, hug, hold hands, and other friendly/romantic gestures for those who wanna take photos and roleplay?
There'll be plenty of emote actions in the game.
Yay! Ok, thanks both of you! Will read the link
Hello, will be AOC playable on Linux ?
AoC currently will be released on the Windows platform. They will look at other platforms and evaluate them in the future.
oy i bough voyager preorder and im wondering those codes i got i use those on game client once aplha 2 hits? or is there client already that i can preload?
If I purchase the voyager pre order pack is it playable rn? Or is alpha 2 not out yet?
nothing to preload currently.
Hey guys. Is it true that the alpha two testers can play as soon as the alpha two has started until the release date?
Correct. Alpha 2 is persistent until launch.
Perfect trank you
(With downtimes for patching and such)
The main thing is that I don't have to keep looking for something to play for months on end
If you are buying a game to play, then you are going to be disappointed. The developers here have made multiple statements to that effect. While the goal is for A2 to eventually be persistent, it will not be that at the start. It will be up and down for periods of time as needed for updates, bug fixes, client upgrades and others. So one more time, DO NOT BUY if you think you are going to be "playing for months on end"
@misty bison
Turning it off for updates and the like is not what I was concerned with, not even resets or the like. I bought the game because it looks very very very good and I want to support the development and developers.
All good. You would maybe not be surprised that we get people who purchase packages and have not done their due diligence and believe they can download the client right now, and other bad misconceptions.
Bebe all good, I already knew I wouldn't be able to play until July at the earliest, more towards the end of Q3 I think. But that's not a problem either. It's time for a game like this that offers an alternative to another big game
you can connect your discord account to ashes account for the discord role but the role doesnt do anything right now afaik
https://discord.ashesofcreation.com/
Does the sell end at 2pm eastern time or central
That converts to your local time
question for a friend, can you buy a pack with a prepaid debit card?
O fuk
Just fyi, as long as you own a pack (can be the cheapest pack), you are still able to upgrade that pack after the packs end.
So if you have the $75 pack, 2 weeks from now you can decide "I want to upgrade to Alpha 2" and you will be able to since you already own a pack to upgrade
Would have to try and find out on that, if it is a Visa or something like that would think so?
Not 100% sure.
I can 100% confirm that you can. I used my wisely ADP card from my job to buy mine.
Will there be a beta or alpha for ps5, I don’t normally do betas xct but think this game will be the next main game people will go to after ESO,ff14
Atm Ashes is PC only
They may consider console after launch, but it's not a thing for pre-launch alpha/beta tests
Aww ok maybe next year then
Ashes is almost certainly not going to launch this year or next
When is the caravan pvp live stream? What is the date
Usually streams are the last Friday of the month
Although occasionally this changes
They'll probably announce the stream date this Friday
Awesome. Thank you. Probably the stream I’m looking forward to the most. The PvP & the subclass system.
A couple queations before purchase, The membership and currency will not be given until the games full release? Is that correct? Also, is there an estimated time for beta one release?
Correct for the membership, embers you get now (although there's currently no use for them). No estimate for Betas yet
Alpha/Beta playtime does not use sub time
No Beta timeframe only have the most recent ETA for Alpha 2 which is Q3
I was just held up by the possiblity of A) the alpha two taking another year before beta B) Infinite beta so I never get the rewards I pay for. I.E. a fornite type of thing. Where I am promised it, but the promised day never comes.
Alpha 2 will last a long time. Personal opinion, but yes I would expect A2 to last longer than a year
Current plan is that Betas are a "short but sweet" kind of test, the game is mostly finished by the time the Betas start, but it's for last minute polishing/bug fixes and marketing the game
Alpha 2 is where the content and systems get implemented
Last thing, if I were to buy one of these expensive packages and they decide to nix the game, what would happen to the value of our membership? Does that portion just disappear or does it get refunded?
Last thing #2, my bad. If I buy something in alpha or beta with my embers, will I retain them though wipes?
embers are for cosmetics only
so yes
if they even decide to have a cosmetic shop in alpha and beta
Try using a different browser
That worked thanks
Alpha 2 will be persistent until launch starting before September 30th of this year. Betas will be very short test phases that run in tandem with Alpha 2. So aside from downtime, the game will be playable continuously until it launches.
Additionally, you can purchase the cheapest pack now and wait to upgrade. Upgrades will still be available beyond today. They may be removed eventually, but we’ll likely have 2+ months of notice given for when they plan to remove the ability to upgrade your pack.
So if you’re uneasy about $250, spend $75
This is the only question I have remaining. if I were to buy one of these expensive packages and they decide to nix the game, what would happen to the value of our membership? Does that portion just disappear or does it get refunded?
No one will answer this because that’s not the plan. If anyone from the company ever answered this it would cause chaos among the community. There are 0 plans for the game to be nix’d I can say that
Did you just ask if you would get your money back if the game turns out to be a scam?💀
Gotcha, that makes sense. It's just happened too many times
Yea unfortunately pre orders are always a gamble, but unlike osme past games, intrepid seems very determined to make the best game possible
If I upgrade to the $250 later, do I still get the cosmetics in the current package?
Yes
Since this is the last pack
Also there isn't a $75 version, $150 is the cheapest
Thanks for the answers everyone, I just bought the $250 version
I am trying to get a friend to buy it now, you said if he buys the $75 now when alpha two comes he can upgrade to get the alpha two access?
yes
ok cool he is buying now
they will remove the option to upgrade your packs later down the line
but they will give plenty of notice before that happens
Well, we don’t know when the upgrades will end. They may end in July with Alpha 2 possibly coming as late as September. We don’t know when/if upgrading will end.
So you may not be able to still upgrade the day alpha 2 launches
Alright I will let them know, I got two people that just bought it
But we will have a lot of warning before upgrading ends. I’d come in here and ask every month or two for the next 7 months just to be sure they don’t miss it. I think they’ll get an email about it too, but not positive
Did you guys receive a purchase confirmation/transaction receipt directly from Intrepid after buying a preorder package? Or only from paypal (when bought with it) ?
Customer Support tells me they dont send any. But I heard different here.
I havent received a purchase confirmation except the mail from paypal
if support says so then it is so
Only Paypal for me, but you can see your purchase directly in your inventory
I've only had receipts from PayPal after the website change.
You can check order history and inventory on the website to see exactly what you have and when it was purchased though, along with the tracking numbers
Okay thanks. Then I did missunderstand it previously. Its all fine in the history and inventory - the package is there. Just confused me not getting a mail directly - since it seems to be common practice otherwise.
But all good then 👍
i got a receipt directly from intrepid a few weeks ago
although i did not buy it with paypal, (i used revolut) so probably its different for that
Yes, I received one, however it’s from Stripe (Visa payment), not from Intrepid.
Oh okay. Then it might have to do with the payment.
It's a strip from Paypal or your credits cards. You can see the confirmation on your account on the website
I just went to purchase and I don't even have an option is this because of the country I live in ?
#web-maintenance sry mate
No not your country it's just permanently gone forever.
!shop
Pre-Order packs have ended. If you previously purchased a Pre-Order pack, you should still be able to upgrade.
Find out more here: https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-09-12-the-unseen-order
So i gave it a try and to probably noone surprise considering My.Games reputation:
Dear Player,
Thank you for reaching out to us.
Given the extended period of time that has passed, it is technically not possible for us to process a refund for this particular purchase. However, we value your satisfaction and would like to offer you an alternative solution.
We have such games as Allods Online and Skyforge in our portfolio, and we would be happy to provide you with in-game currency for one of the specified games. This in-game currency can enhance your gaming experience and help you enjoy your journey.
Please let us know which game you would like to play and create a character in it. After that, we'll credit your account with hard currency equivalent to the payment that you made for Ashes of Creation.
Thank you for your understanding, and we look forward to continuing to serve you as a valued customer.

Allods and Skyforge 
didnt expect much from My.Games but this would not happen if Intrepid had not anounced "migration of EU accounts" which have never happened 😢
It's cause as you said, mygames are ass
Intrepid did a fucky wucky partnering with them in 2018
sure, but it's little shameful there is so little support for these customers who had supported the game back in the days
Damnit keep forgetting I can't use gifs here
the thing with why intrepid has not done anything yet is cuss they are likely in a lawsuit with mygames and if they start to help those effected it will likely effect the lawsuit (this is just my guess dont take any of it as fact)
Afternoon.
go to #read-me-first to choose a language so you can see the chat channels 
since the shop has been taken down, if u own a pack is the upgrade option still available
Yes
!shop
Pre-Order packs have ended. If you previously purchased a Pre-Order pack, you should still be able to upgrade. To find out more, see the FAQ here: https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-09-12-the-unseen-order
To explore upgrades and add-ons for any previously purchased items, login to see the Shop here: https://ashesofcreation.com/shop


