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modern portal
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One of the advantages of self publishing.

halcyon bone
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okay so im a little confused on something and had a few different answers with that artisan skills can i only max 2 of the same artisan skill or can i make 1 crafting and 1 gathering for example or do the ones i max both need to be crafting

desert ivy
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Up till a couple months ago the plan was you could only max artisan classes within the same branch (gathering/processing/crafting), but now they've changed it so you can max different branches. So you can have a grandmaster artisan gathering and crafting for example if you wish

halcyon bone
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where did they announce that if you dont mind me asking

desert ivy
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During the crafting stream in November

crimson stream
desert ivy
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Yes

wanton field
crimson stream
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Nvm I just realised artisan isn't a crafting group

warm remnant
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Yeah, I've read the wiki. What I was saying is I can't wait till the showcase so we can get an idea of how they actually play, both as main and subtype, not how many and how long the summons are. I'm excited to see what kind of moves or summons they'll have, how combat flows, if it looks interactive instead of you sitting in the back lines, etc.

iron ermine
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I hope it doesn’t feel like your summons are doing all of the work

dreamy pagoda
past leaf
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First question: Does being flagged for PvP affect the loot table of the bosses?

Second follow up question: if flagging does effect that table roll… in a raid, if we were to have only the loot master opted-in for PvP and everyone else non-flagged, would that roll have better odds or is it based off who made the killing blow or something like that?

spiral pine
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No

rancid cypress
iron ermine
tender hearthBOT
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Ashes of Creation Wiki

The open world PvP flagging system is designed to deter people from griefing other players without limiting opportunities for open conflict.

We do incentivize players to fight back, or to participate in PvP through the flagging system, but not to PK. Not to go corrupt. – Steven Sharif
Players can participate in open world PvP with one another wi...

warm remnant
dreamy pagoda
iron ermine
dreamy pagoda
past leaf
past leaf
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Great, Thank you.

rancid cypress
dry wraith
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The thing the worries me about this, what if Disconnections happen? What if internet goes out for a bit... It should be a group type of thing where it's connected to either 3-5 people which are the "Leaders" of the group. But then what happens if it's a server issue and everyone is logged out... is there a time limit set for these summons to stay up like an hour after the summer(s) log out or so. Many things need to be considered for this situation.

dark jungle
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These issues (if they exist) will become apparent during and after alpha 2

molten escarp
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hi guys,

after seeing the ranger combat i think i might look into getting the alpha 2, considering it'll prob be up for a year or so but my question is do we know if there'll be servers for OCE testers or will we need to join NA or wherever they end up at. Being in Aus there ain't much option for MMOs so i'm hopeful this is decent but i just can't imagine 'playing' in a non aus server as the lag delays are really frustrating.

desert ivy
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Atm OCE servers aren't planned until Betas

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There are a few people from Australia/NZ that have played in past Ashes tests. @dark jungle @still wyvern. Can see what the ping has been like for them

warm remnant
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The summons are tied to the summoner. If they disconnect, the party no longer has summons, because the summoner is gone and there is no one to command them or use their abilities. The only time any summon would be tied to a group is the siege summon, and that winds up tied to the specific player controlling it.

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I suppose for the siege summon they could make it swap to someone else if the controller disconnects, but in the case of a server issue that disconnects the whope party, you would've had to start over anyway, so it doesn't matter if it persists, since you're gonna have to redo what you just did anyway.

ancient egret
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this is a place for questions an answers

still wyvern
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I was able to kill off mobs, and explore. Never experienced any rubber-banding, nor any stutters.

molten escarp
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do you know how much ping u had roughly?

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below 150ms?

wispy ruin
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is there any chance you can change the cosmetics that comes with the "voyager plus pre-order pack" to a different somehow? or perhaps trade them with other players? there's some that i would rather have than the latest one that i bought ^^

spiral pine
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No

wispy ruin
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@idle siren

wispy ruin
# spiral pine No

i know it isnt said or so, but perhaps there is a possible way to get it done, hopefully. the pack from oct 2019-nov2019 is so sweet

spiral pine
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Still no

rancid cypress
iron ermine
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this isnt pokemon

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no tradsies

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😚

wispy ruin
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thanks for the answers, not asking you tho, im asking the ones in power to perhaps make it possible 🙂

spiral pine
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Steven has already said no to this before

wispy ruin
iron ermine
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zeldo is mad i mentioned pokemon

rain orchid
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Hi, when the next livestream will be?

iron ermine
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idk

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usually last day of the month i believe

icy torrent
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last friday of the month

icy torrent
naive pivot
# wispy ruin i haven't seen that, but i take your word for it, thanks! might you know when an...

I'll toss my coin into the hat on this one.

I believe it would be a fantastic addition to have the option to choose from any of the cosmetics offered in the $375 package. When we claim it, by providing us the freedom to select our preferred cosmetics, adds immense value. Personally, I invested $375 to not only to support the game but also to enjoy the adventures to be had with the cosmetics that resonate most with my personal taste. Unfortunately, as @wispy ruin pointed out, some of us joined the $375 tier later than others. Perhaps due to discovering the game belatedly or not keeping track of package changes.

I get that there are different factors to consider, but perhaps it's worth revisiting past discussions to enhance the value for everyone who contributed $375 to the pool. Regardless, the reason behind this idea is simple—whether someone grabbed the pack early and scored a fantastic cosmetic or someone who just discovered Ashes is joining the journey, by giving us the choice, it would enhance our satisfaction with such a substantial one-time investment. Just my two cents. Cheers!

wispy ruin
icy torrent
naive pivot
icy torrent
tender hearthBOT
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Ashes of Creation Wiki

Cosmetics provide a wide array of customization in Ashes of Creation.

There are no pay-to-win gameplay benefits from any purchasable items.
All skin cosmetic items are cosmetic items only and do not grant the user any other benefit. The lore text is flavor text, and background of the creatures and items in the world of Verra.
Types of cosmetics:...

rancid cypress
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@wispy ruin I can't link it but you'll find your answers in the link above ^

wispy ruin
ruby swift
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@wispy ruin @naive pivot You wanted words from those in power that it isn't going to happen. Here they are.

wispy ruin
oblique lotus
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ok but where the character creator at tho?

deep pawn
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Cookin

wispy ruin
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anyone knows if each race will have their own starting zone? does everyone have the same starting zone? or do we have options regardless of what race we pick?

ruby swift
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Shown here.

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You will need to zoom in.

wispy ruin
tranquil willow
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That's the old map, though

ruby swift
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It still illustrates the concept proposed.

glass scaffold
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how do you post on the forums/reply to posts? it says on the right side there should be a post or create discussion button, but its not there and i cant reply to any official posts :(( is it because im like lvl 1 on there/ a new account? How would you even get more stars though if you cant post at all

rancid cypress
glass scaffold
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ok using another browser worked thank you! 💙 tomo

tulip lark
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how long does the last package stay ?

desert ivy
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Last chance to buy a fresh pack is January 17th at 11am PST. If you already own a pack (e.g. the Wayfarer pack), you can upgrade even after the 17th

tulip lark
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so 10 days ok ty

desert ivy
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However they'll likely re-add the ability to buy in to alpha/beta phases at a future date (could be before, could be after A2 begins)

icy torrent
coral knoll
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Just let me buy the alpha 2 access, for friends.

near stump
coral knoll
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I guess I shoukd specify. JUST the alpha access

karmic snow
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Can't buy just Alpha. You have to buy the pack, and everything that comes with it.

near stump
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They won’t sell just the access for less than $150 at any point if they even end up doing that since it would be cheaper than what original KS backers paid

coral knoll
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Oh I know, I personally got the 250 pack. Just want my buddy to join without chopping off another leg lol.

ashen snow
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will there be different names for each of your alts in AoC? or is it your account name across all characters.

tulip hatch
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Yes they are not under the same name in the account - they dont share guilds either

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Intrepid is not opposed to using alts for espionage among cities/guilds

ashen snow
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thank you!

hidden canopy
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Can we upgrade a pack after the 17th or do we have to have our purchase decided? Does anyone know.

hidden canopy
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Ok, thx

warm remnant
desert ivy
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$75 is the cheapest pack on the store

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The "Wayfarer" pack

warm remnant
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Alright, I was worried they might've had it limited to one of the 100+ ones.

desert ivy
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Once you have one of the cheaper packs, you can go into the shop and buy one of the higher tier packs. It will still show the full price, but once you go to checkout it should reduce the price. E.g. if you go to buy the $250 pack and you already have the $75 pack, it should show as $175 at checkout

warm remnant
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Thank you. I'm really excited to try it out once Alpha 2 drops.

coral knoll
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Would that work for alpha access? Buy the 75 and later upgrade to the 250+?? After the 17th or would the keys be removed from the upgrade at that point?

civic obsidian
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at some point the upgrade might stop but like when the packages stopped. they will give ample warning if/when that happemns

desert ivy
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You just can't buy a pack after the 17th if you don't own one already. You can upgrade an existing pack to a higher package, but can't buy a brand new one

odd locust
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I hope people aren't confusing taking part in Alpha 2 with "trying out the game". 😄

desert ivy
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A few people will. People spent $500 to try A1 and complained it wasn't a full game so they'll definitely do the same with A2

iron ermine
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I know that there are already 64 classes planned for the game, but do you think in future they might add more classes with expansion? Like druids or something?

ruby swift
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There have been no announced plans about future archetypes or class combos. But who knows?

odd locust
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8 classes. 64 is misleading.

stray current
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8 Archetypes, 64 classes.

pure hound
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Once we’ve purchased A2, is there any additional channels we can get a role for here on the discord?

sinful isle
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i dont have A2 yet

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but i do have B1 B2

pure hound
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Thank you 🙏🏾

zinc fiber
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Hello, I bought a pack in 2017, I think it was still a kickstarter back then and i wonder if I would be able to play the A2?

desert ivy
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Depends what pack you have

zinc fiber
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I have an Explorer Access (Summer)

desert ivy
zinc fiber
desert ivy
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Unless you bought in at the time you can't buy in now, but people that bought in at the time can upgrade their Kickstarter/Summer packs still

zinc fiber
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yup i just saw that, it's nice i might upgrade it 7 years later haha

warm remnant
# odd locust I hope people aren't confusing taking part in Alpha 2 with "trying out the game"...

I know full well what I'm getting into and that it's not the actual game but rather testing various parts of the final product. I had bought early access to Baldur's Gate 3 when it first came out despite knowing it wasn't gonna have everything and was gonna mainly be testing and fixes cause I wanted to help out with the development of and to support something I looked forward to in any way I could, both financially and by putting it through the wringer and reporting any bugs or issues I found.

rancid cypress
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Not how it works for kickstarters/summer backers.

They have their own upgrade path which includes the kickstarter benefits.

So in the case of @zinc fiber they can just log in and upgrade to a settler (or any other higher pack)

halcyon bone
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when i try and log onto the forums it says Before proceeding, please set your contact email address in your Profile Settings and i have already done that

spiral pine
lavish marsh
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Is there a title for participating in the alpha test? I have FOMO about titles LOL

spring torrent
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hi im back with generic question......when is the game launch?.....any upcoming test?

tribal oyster
spring torrent
wise zephyr
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in alpha, can i use 3. party programs to try to find bugs/exploits

hushed lotus
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Im pretty sure thats against their tos, but hey, atleast you find out how good they are in detecting that 😂

trail swift
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will the cosmetics (that eventually get added later) be restricted to the current system? as in, do i need voyager plus to get a clothing skin later on? or will it be a detached system?

ancient egret
tulip hatch
trail swift
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tyvm, would have been the only reason upgrade now. saves me some troubles.

tulip hatch
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Youre welcome c:

upbeat elk
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So how does one connect their discord and Forum account? I remember doing that way back when but it doesn't seem to show my KS level like I can see with some people.

desert ivy
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Sometimes it doesn't work for some reason. Think you need to contact CS in that case

upbeat elk
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ok

high lion
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Question: We have a few members who have yet to get alpha2 as it is a lot of money to save, I heard that if you get the beta you can upgrade the package to the alpha. So is this true and if it is will this service still be available after the store shuts on the 17th

spiral pine
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Yes

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and store doesnt shut just the package sales that are ending

high lion
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So after the sales stop you can still upgrade?

spiral pine
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yes

high lion
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perfect I will let them know many thanks!

karmic snow
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The ability to upgrade will end at some point, but we've been told we'll get plenty of warning before it does.

stable mountain
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is the only way to apply to the creator program through the google forum?

iron ermine
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we all know the open world is all pvp, but will there be a duel button option so that there are no reprucussions for killing each other?

stable mountain
tender hearthBOT
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Ashes of Creation Wiki search results
1: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Duels>

...auto-decline duel requests. Dueling is not considered a part of the flagging system. Duels won't be considered a part of the flagging system. The duels are going...

2: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/PvP#Duels>

...auto-decline duel requests. Dueling is not considered a part of the flagging system. Duels won't be considered a part of the flagging system. The duels are going...

3: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Open-world_PvP#Duels>

...auto-decline duel requests. Dueling is not considered a part of the flagging system. Duels won't be considered a part of the flagging system. The duels are going...

iron ermine
half zealot
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is there a way to "solo caravan" like in archeage with a backpack climbing over the mountains? 😄 or do i always need to use a wagon?

sterile kestrel
# half zealot is there a way to "solo caravan" like in archeage with a backpack climbing over ...

There are "solo player" caravan called Personal Caravans.
But even this kind does have wagon since it is a caravan.

But if you want to do something more similar to Archeage or at least the very begining of archeage where players were doing stuff with mules then there is also this option.
They do transport cargo but in a smaller scale than caravan.

So the "correct" way of thinking would be the mule for solo player instead of the Personal Caravan.

Source 1: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Personal_caravans
Source 2: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mules

half zealot
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okay, cool. thank you! 😄

halcyon bone
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do we know if we can change religion?

delicate wolf
tender hearthBOT
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Ashes of Creation Wiki

There are six primary religions as well as a Tulnar/Underrealm religion.

Religion is intended to be a motivator, not an aesthetic.
Choosing a religion enables players to walk a light or a dark path through their choice of questlines and other actions.
Players will not be able to worship The Others at temples, but certain quest paths will allow da...

bronze umbra
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Hello. So I am trying to convince my friend to buy one of the packages. If he buys the $75 package before the 17th of January, will he be able to upgrade it after that date amd get a more expensive package that gives alpha access?

hybrid dragon
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yep

cerulean tangle
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Will there be a title system associated with fame and karma?

tender hearthBOT
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Ashes of Creation Wiki

Titles are unlocked by achievements in aspects of the game.

Social organizations.
Religions.
Priests.
Bishops.
Acolytes.
Guilds.
Guild leaders.
Guild officers.
Knights.
Guild castles.
King or Queen.
Node governments.
Mayor.
Priests, bishops or acolytes in certain temples.
Patron guild leader.
Chief bounty hunter.
Node sieges / Events
Certain titl...

full badger
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^above is all the information we have on titles @cerulean tangle

lavish marsh
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are there titles for being a part of the alpha/beta tests?

void knot
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What are the odds of converting early package access cosmetics to embers? For example I jumped on the last train to alpha, and the bloody bone comestics aren't my vibe. Like a one time deal.

rancid cypress
near stump
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Feel free to post on the forums. It might gain traction

thick fjord
void knot
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Nice, so there's a possible path fowrad

thick fjord
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But that wasn't due to ppl not liking the one they purchased, it was due to the poor communication around the exclusivity of Freeholds and their ability to obtain one causing a lot of backlash

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But it's definitely possible

shell void
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@void knot zero chance of that, but don't worry - there will be plenty of awesome cosmetics in game, and there will also be a cash shop that only holds cosmetics that you can use some of your embers on if you really feel the need. The bloody stuff can sit and collect dust in your cosmetics area.

void knot
tulip hatch
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HM dont think anyones mentioned that issue before~
Youll have to submit a support ticket

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!support

potent thunderBOT
desert ivy
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Iirc you can't remove them yourself, but it's not an issue. You can use any of the codes and still get the referral

near stump
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If someone enters an invalid code it’ll tell them so ya you shouldn’t have any issues

digital sonnet
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Hey Azli, to save you some time with Support, at this time we're not able to remove referral codes from your page. You can choose to give out any of these, or you can pick one and just give that referral code out.

Also FYI: Removing the image above, since we don't have people share their referral codes here in this Discord.

warm forum
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I first heard about this game in 2020, and I've been eagerly waiting for it. Is it true that the game will launch this year, and will there be an Asia server?

near stump
tender hearthBOT
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Ashes of Creation Wiki

Ashes of Creation will launch with the following server regions:

North America (NA).
Europe (EU).
Asia/Pacific (SEA).
Oceania (OCE) (Australia).
The likelihood is very high for Sydney or Melbourne based OCE servers.
OCE servers may not be provisioned until Beta for Ashes of Creation (the MMO) and live launch for Ashes of Creation Apocalypse.
At t...

warm forum
halcyon bone
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is sea going to be available on alpha 2?

spiral pine
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servers?

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no

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but you can still play on NA and EU servers

rotund prawn
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4gb gpu will be enough?

dark dirge
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@rotund prawn Operating System: Windows 10 64-Bit.
Processor: Intel Core i3-2125 3.3GHz / AMD Phenom II X4 3.3GHz.
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti or AMD Radeon R9 270.
Memory: 8 GB RAM.
Network: Broadband Internet connection.
Storage: 50 GB of available space

desert ivy
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Those specs were from A1 though.

A dev said on social media that they're aiming for 60fps at 1440p on a 2070 GPU on Ultra settings

near stump
# rotund prawn 4gb gpu will be enough?

So in short, we don’t know. If you’re asking if it’ll be enough for launch, I’d wait until we’re well into Alpha 2 and ask again. You’ve got a few years still

vast crescent
desert ivy
vast crescent
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Ty. was that last year?

desert ivy
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Not sure. Thinkge

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Would have been last February

vague thistle
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I got a question regarding artisan progression, referring this image. At the final point, will we be able to get "2 grandmaster + 3 master" or "2 grandmaster + 1 master"?

desert ivy
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2 grandmaster + 1 master

vague thistle
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Thanks and so +1 journeyman + 1 apprentice

desert ivy
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So if you have
Grandmaster: Mining + Animal Husbandry
You'll also have
Master: Mining + Animal Husbandry + Lumberjacking for example

vague thistle
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Thanks 😊

wanton lake
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Hey guys! How can i get my referral code ?

desert ivy
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Go there and click "Generate Referral Code"

wanton lake
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I clicked on generate referral code but it didnt gave me the code

desert ivy
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Susge Try relogging?

wanton lake
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yep ;\

desert ivy
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Thinkgers @digital sonnet Does he need to contact CS?

wanton lake
desert ivy
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Only other things I can think of is trying a different browser. Might be you need to contact customer support

wanton lake
desert ivy
digital sonnet
sonic mist
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Are guild sizes capped?

desert ivy
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Yes

tender hearthBOT
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Ashes of Creation Wiki search results
1: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Group_sizes>

...person group sizes. Arenas will have 1 man, 3 man, 5 man and possibly 20 man Free-For-All (Deathmatch) group sizes. There won't specifically be guild vs guild...

2: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Group_dynamics#Group_sizes>

...person group sizes. Arenas will have 1 man, 3 man, 5 man and possibly 20 man Free-For-All (Deathmatch) group sizes. There won't specifically be guild vs guild...

3: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas#Guild_ladder>

...inter-guild ladder will rank guilds based on their performance within competitive activities: Guild wars. Castle sieges. World bosses. When the guild participates...

desert ivy
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Basically you can invest guild points to get certain perks, including increasing the size of your guild

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Current max is 300 if you go all in on guild size

sonic mist
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Ok cool thank you

iron ermine
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stream is last friday of the month correct?

desert ivy
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Usually but sometimes gets delayed to the following week

whole dawn
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we'll find out on the 19th when the stream is

ocean lotus
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Will there be more servers available in EU? Afaik there is only two at the moment with a max pop of 8000 each according to population density limits. That makes only 16k slots.

Or will it be 8k per server instance and then several instances ?

rancid cypress
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It's a known bug you can ignore it.

stable badger
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Has Taming been removed from the Gathering Tree?

desert ivy
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Taming is a part of Hunting in the gathering tree

stable mountain
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Is there somewhere we can recommend content creators for the content creator program? I know we can sign up individually, but I was wondering if we wanted to refer a streamer/youtuber

near stump
hoary jungle
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Just want to make extra sure, but the last day for UPGRADING kickstarter package accounts (specifically) is still TBD right? It is NOT in a week, right?

desert ivy
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Correct

hoary jungle
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thank you!

mellow dagger
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Can friends not ready to spend $250 today for Alpha 2 access buy the 75$ pack and then upgrade after January 17th to obtain Alpha 2 access?

frozen torrent
mellow dagger
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🙏🏻

rigid rose
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There will be plenty of notice given before any upgrade paths are ended.

quasi latch
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can you go cleric dps or is it hard lock healer?

glass vale
# quasi latch can you go cleric dps or is it hard lock healer?

cleric will be able to damage as well and not just stuck with healing

There's going to be a significant amount of offensive capability for the Cleric because we don't want to create that dynamic where cleric as a support class is inoperable without a companion or a party to go with. We want that Cleric to still be able to survive on their own: to be able to level and progress as a solo player.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Cleric

quasi latch
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or only healer

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as i like the idea playing damage dealer that using holy magic

glass vale
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afaik there isnt a queue system discussed anywhere since majority of the dungeons will be open world

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i imagine for other dungeons you'd have to find groups yourself rather than just join a queue :O

quasi latch
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but that is what i mean if i can be offensive cleric and not healer per say was wondering

glass vale
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you can be an offensive cleric yeah
i dont think there's any in-game system that would classify you as an offensive build or a healer build and allocate you accordingly.

quasi latch
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cool that is all i wanted to know

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as i will want to play i guess as cleric till summoner comes out

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and hoping for skins for summoner for celestial or angelic creatures 🙂

rustic totem
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Controller support?

tender hearthBOT
hard zinc
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Hello! Just wondering if when is the last day that I can still buy the Alpha 2 access? Thanks!

dark jungle
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17th of this month

hard zinc
dawn shuttle
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Just so I get this straight. If you pay the harmonized subscription fee you can't play in other servers outside the ones meant for your region, but your allowed to pay the original subscription fee to play in other servers such as NA/EU servers?

glacial willow
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its to stop people who bot for example, to use a vpn and say go to turkey which pay like 1$ sub fees while the normal NA person pays 15-20$

manic vine
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So how long does it take to hit max level again? Like ingame time

ancient egret
manic vine
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Okay thank you

azure vector
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are orcs only gonna be red or green? or purple for the vek?

dark jungle
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renkai will be red or green, vek are purple

azure vector
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so we wont have any yellow orcs?

dark jungle
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no idea

spiral pine
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they havent revealed the full range of skin colors available

azure vector
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hopefully i'll be able to make pikachu

hard zinc
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Just want to ask again. If I buy the Alpha 2 Access, will I be able to participate even if AoC don't have SEA servers? I live in the Philippines btw.

desert ivy
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Yes

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There is no region locking on Intrepids end

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So you'll be able to play on NA or EU servers (or whatever servers they have available)

hard zinc
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So I can still play but with a high ping?

desert ivy
hard zinc
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Oh okay. Thanks!

whole dawn
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@junior ember might need to look at this ^

digital sonnet
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@shy basin I'm going to remove the messages above. Contacting Support is the right call for things like this.

If there is an issue with another user's account, we can reach out in an official way about this.

magic pebble
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Can you still donate on kickstarter for the packages? If so why is the entry for alpha about $100 cheaper on kickstarter than the packages on the AoC website. Not sure if this has been asked or if it’s just cuz you get more cosmetics potentially. Followed the game since 2018. I’m new here tho so forgive me if this seems like a silly question. Debating buying a package before the 17th.

desert ivy
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No, Kickstarter closed in June 2017

magic pebble
dry wraith
warm remnant
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the wiki said it is tied to the target of the summons

elfin crater
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is there ticket system for discord?

near stump
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!cs

potent thunderBOT
sinful isle
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do we know what level we will be able to level to over the A2?

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if we even know?!

sinful isle
timber cape
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I recently submitted a content creator application. Is Intrepid still taking them, and if so, how long do responses typically take?

granite sun
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what quarter did they end up saying A2 would likely be?

karmic snow
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Q3

granite sun
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thanks

elfin crater
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@near stump not talking about customer support

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talkin about discord support, about a spammer that needs to be banned

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mods do with this as you will, i'm about to restart my computer and lose the screenshot

near stump
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The red report spam button is discord support. Getting them banned from discord will also get them removed from this discord

iron ermine
#

will ashes have fsr and/or dlss?

solid mountain
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100% they will. If they don't it's a huge blunder PES_HmmCoffee

crimson stream
#

Is there a reason Steven cited for AoC not coming to Steam?
Many popular MMORPGs (FFXIV, GW2, ESO) are on Steam

wispy tusk
hushed lotus
delicate wolf
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They plan to also have their own launcher, as well as plans for future games.

ruby swift
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We only have multiple quotes going back to the beginning of development and reinforced over the years. Steven has never articulated publicly with his exact reasons why beyond what DA has just posted. People can extrapolate and guess, but until you have him defining why, all you have are those previous statements.

delicate wolf
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Oh I sometimes forget 2017-2019 AoC

crimson stream
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@delicate wolf @hushed lotus @ruby swift
Thank you for the replies.
When would be the next chance to ask him about it, given these replies are quite old?

I understand Steam are quite greedy with their 30% cut, but majority of PC gamers are still using Steam (and in recent years Epic).
I mean, why not launch on Epic then? 12% cut

spiral pine
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You can ask again when the stream questions open

crimson stream
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You mean on the next livestream?

spiral pine
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Yes

violet pine
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yoooo, wiki down for yall too?

drifting moon
#

what's the date the pre-order packs will be removed from the shop?

drifting moon
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thought so was just confirming. Thanks!

heavy karma
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May I ask if we get 15% of Intrepid Bucks from someone buying a preorder pack as well?

high lion
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The username you use to sign into the website won't be the same as your in game username correct? As in we can still make our in game usernames later on.

visual locust
hearty flicker
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Hey hey,
Been out for a bit, when is the next alpha that we can play in 🙂

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Did Alpha 1 End already?
I remember playing in that first town they ever made

hearty flicker
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as i said u was gone for a bit 😛
Ok so i guess ill be back at end of this year then 😦

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seen people releasing videos with christmas trees and stuff, thought its still going

thick drift
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guys how much should Alpha 2 last ? At least how much do you think?

whole dawn
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but thats just an estimate

thick drift
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and then go directly in Beta ?

whole dawn
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alpha 2 will run parallel to the betas
alpha 2 runs until launch

thick drift
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ooh

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thank you

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I thought it would evolve like that

frozen torrent
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When upgrading packages; do you just pay the difference in price between the package you have and the package you're upgrading to?

full badger
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@frozen torrent you pay the difference

frozen torrent
inland shale
frozen torrent
inland shale
frozen torrent
inland shale
frozen torrent
inland shale
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jesus christ lol my wife would butcher me

frozen torrent
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(The preorders stop on Jan 17th; but if you buy a lesser package they have announced you will still be able to upgrade until they announce upgrades are closed)

inland shale
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ill just wait for beta and hopefully get to play that

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ty for info!

inland shale
frozen torrent
inland shale
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ohh word! ok thanks for that!

ancient egret
near stump
tender hearthBOT
#
Ashes of Creation Wiki

Intrepid Bucks are earned through the Referral program. These can be used to:

Purchase Embers.
Purchase in-game items from the Cosmetic store.
Reduce subscription costs (to zero).
This only applies to the user's own subscription.
Obtain cash rewards on a quarterly basis after Ashes of Creation has launched.

cerulean pulsar
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If you accidentally created an account but forgot to refer your friend, can you get that account deleted to recreate it by submitting a ticket or something? I'd for sure get locked out if I had to make a new email just for that lol

wispy hawk
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ive heard that alpha 2 will last until launch, is this true?

desert ivy
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Yes

toxic tusk
sterile palm
tender hearthBOT
#
Ashes of Creation Wiki

Ashes of Creation's core game systems are expected to be in place at the start of Alpha-2. By the end of Alpha-2, the game is expected to be feature complete, but it will not be content complete until launch. Alpha-2 will last until launch and will run in parallel with Beta-1 and Beta-2.

Alpha-2 is intended to be a true functional representation...

west meteor
near stump
#

!cs

potent thunderBOT
stable mountain
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Do we know if guild names are reserved?

ruby swift
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Guild name reservation was available in the Braver of worlds and higher backer packages during the Kickstarter and Summer crowdfunding campaigns.[1][2]

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Sorry, beta, not live.

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Server reservations allow guild members as well as unaffiliated players to reserve character slots on a server starting in the Beta testing stages of the game.[6]

slate topaz
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If you buy a beta pack, can you upgrade during A2 to get A2 access? If so can I get an official link?

desert ivy
karmic snow
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We don't know when the cut off for the upgrades will be, just that there will be plenty of warning. So its possible that the cutoff may fall before A2 starts.

slate topaz
merry geode
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One sec

slate topaz
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@digital sonnet @junior ember Friend reset his password and get this when trying to login with new PW

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no context on the red icon

digital sonnet
# slate topaz <@136302683807154176> <@866827095598432256> Friend reset his password and get th...

Hey Vyril, it may be a browser or cache issue that's hiding context from the red icon.

MOST of the time when they red icon pops up after trying to reset a password, it's because of this weird forum bug that impacts people who haven't logged into the forums in a couple years. If that's the case, share this workaround with your friend: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/54949/error-signing-into-forums-contact-email

If that work around doesn't work, please have them contact Support so we can sort this out on our end: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us

slate topaz
timber cape
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Hey all, does anyone know anything about the content creator program? I recently submitted an application and am wondering how long is the typical response time?

desert ivy
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But iirc they haven't started sending responses to it yet

digital sonnet
timber cape
gritty trellis
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Morning all. Just heard about A2. Pretty hype it's finally happening.

foggy quail
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is there any way to trade the "cosmetic" pack I bought with any previous?

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I would guess not, but doesn't hurt to ask

thick fjord
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nope

foggy quail
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sadge, but expected

fresh mulch
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just checked...been sitting on my kickstarter pack since 2018. Coming up on 6 years LOL. But at least it appears to be coming 🙂

plucky venture
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Game releasing 2025?

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I'll take that as a no, any reason why its taking so long?

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dude said hes kickstarted since 2018 and theyre still in alpha

desert ivy
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They started off as a small studio. Their goal was to hit 100 employees by the end of 2018, they didn't hit that until 2021

plucky venture
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💀

desert ivy
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Can't exactly make an MMO with the `15 employees they had in 2017

plucky venture
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Game is most likely going to be fantastic but fuck me its taking long 😭

desert ivy
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And good luck hiring as a no name studio when Riot, Blizzard, Insomniac, Rockstar, etc. etc. are hiring in the same area

south pecan
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Hello, after the January 17th date, will there be any new pre-order packs?

desert ivy
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No new packs, no. They may sell cosmetics/merch/alpha access separately in the future though

icy torrent
iron ermine
west mango
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Any "good" AAA-game takes 6-8y at least to make pretty simple

potent thunderBOT
zinc coyote
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just a wild thought, is there an plan to revamp the Nestled Vine Vestment? Compared to cosmetics that are recently released it seems kinda low quality 🤣 us Adventurer Pre-Order Package buyers would not mind something swaggier 🤣

spiral pine
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Afaik they haven't shown it in 3d yet

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So your statement doesn't make sense

sterile kestrel
# plucky venture Game releasing 2025?

There are several answers regarding this but just adding new one.

An "fair" guess I believe would be Q4 2025~Q2 2026.
But there is no confirmation from the company

west meteor
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Just enjoy the ride

zinc coyote
desert ivy
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That's just the concept art, not the 3d render

vast crescent
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someone should compile the top 30 most asked questions from here and put it in a nice easy to read FAQ format then it can just be posted once a day lul || that "person" isnt me, i dont like doing paperwork ;P ||

plucky venture
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That being said, hopefully this game will be something thats not half assed like anything else they release nowadays

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Cause most games we are getting is unfinished trash :p

ancient egret
vast crescent
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was it posted daily? or just pinned?

ancient egret
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it was its own channel

vast crescent
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yeah just have it where people can copy paste the FAQ from pin in here. Theres plent of us community that can just take turns to copy and paste the FAQ in here - if people dont read it just point to it if they have a question thats on it

thick fjord
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Maybe one day we can build the FAQ into a wiki with all known information that we can just source and reference for all questions

west meteor
worn wagon
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Let's move discussions to a discussion channel NikHug

heavy lagoon
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Per Intrepid, "[a]s we get ready for our Alpha Two testing phase, we will be doing NDA’ed spot testing with our Phoenix Initiative members and previous Alpha One testers." by "previous Alpha One testers" do they mean only those who actually played A1? Or does it include those with access to A1 now (even though they never played it)?

shell void
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All those who have Alpha one access.

tulip hatch
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This is for anyone that has A1 - make sure your account is connected so you have access to the testing channels for whenever a spot test announcement comes up

heavy lagoon
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Ah, sweet. Yeah, I finally got them connected and keep a close eye on the channels lol

near stump
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They have not said they would do this, no

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To my knowledge it hasn’t been discussed. Does any game that you know of do this? It sounds like a very unlikely thing for a game to implement

tulip hatch
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Is this is stemmed from the Nexon Maplestory news?~ this is not a normal or practice as far as Im aware and no mention of this has been stated by Intrepid
So nooo but if you wanna be super sure feel free to ask in the next Q&A livestream thread

ruby swift
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This would become a discussion topic easily, but here is what I remember. There will NOT be "catch up" mechanics to "even the playing field" for people who have less time to game. The only in game system that caters to such would be purely cosmetic. That is what the cosmetic store is. It allows those who have less time to play, to buy cool stuff instead. But anything affecting gameplay or such is NOT planned. There are quotes out there that support that, and you can bet that playing less, will not get you more here.

tulip hatch
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In that case! Unknown has pretty much summed it up for you c:

mortal bough
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This question has probably been asked a lot but how do you get the tag for your pre-order on discord and also for those that have played A1 and spot testing, how do you gain access to the game? (Assuming it’s the same for A2), email with link, or website portal opens with download ? Thanks !

tulip hatch
ruby swift
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All titles previously awarded are legacy titles. Those displayed here are for specific access to restricted channels. The A1 testing is over, and there are no A2 tags needed yet.

tulip hatch
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Typically an email will be one way to get the necessary information for download along with testing channels within discord- however since A2 is not under NDA we're not sure at this moment what the process will be for A2 testers
Spot testers are among the Alpha 1 players who are still under NDA

scarlet lichen
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How do I apply for the test? For game?

ancient egret
scarlet lichen
mint citrus
ancient egret
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but that is something you have to make up with your self if you find it worth it

scarlet lichen
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So if I wait it will be cheaper? Wait so it’s only 60$?

ancient egret
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what is your first language

scarlet lichen
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English

ancient egret
ancient egret
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the rest of the 250 is in gametime and the currency to buy cosmetics

ancient egret
scarlet lichen
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Ok ty sorry for the confusion lol

ashen niche
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Are we able to change our main class whenever or are we stuck on we pick one?

ancient egret
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main is permanent

thick star
weary turret
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If I were to buy the $75 pack and upgrade to the $250 pack in like february or march after the packs are gone, do I still get the beta one and alpha two keys, or will they be removed from the packs after january 17?

icy torrent
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if you upgrade to the 250 pack, then youll get everything thats in that pack. otherwise the upgrade would be pointless

weary turret
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Ye, but they said they reached the amount of alpha two testers they wanted, so I was wondering if that meant they would remove the alpha two key from the packs

icy torrent
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no

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the packs will be gone after the 17th

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nothing will be removed from the packs

weary turret
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But you can still upgrade after the 17th if you have a pack pre-ordered right?

dark jungle
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yes

weary turret
#

Alright sweet, thanks for responding to my question ^^

digital sonnet
# weary turret If I were to buy the $75 pack and upgrade to the $250 pack in like february or m...

If you upgrade your Pre-Order pack, you get everything that's the DIFFERENCE between the Pre-Order pack(s) you have, and what you upgrade to.

For example, if you didn't have access to Alpha Two, and you upgrade to a pack that has Alpha Two, you'll get access to Alpha Two. As for cosmetics, you only get the cosmetic item TYPES that you didn't previously have. If you upgrade, it will not give you the cosmetic items of the same type (Accessory, Pet, Mount, etc.) that came with the previous pack you purchased. Only the additional cosmetic items from the upgrade to The Unseen Order Pre-Order Pack will be granted.

Pre-Order packs are scheduled to end at <t:1705518000:F>. After they end, people who have Pre-Order packs will still be able to upgrade to higher-tier packages or purchase add-on cosmetics from The Unseen Order pack. This won't be available forever, but we don't currently have a date to share for when we'll end the ability to upgrade packs.

weary turret
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Alright, Im gonna get the $75 pack then for now seeing as I currently can't afford the other ones. Hope the date when the upgrades end will be announced on time so I know when to get the other pack 🙂

digital sonnet
weary turret
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Good, seems like I will make it in time then 😄

stray tundra
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@ruby swift they released a2 date yet? forgot the bot command

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❤️ ty

opaque pebble
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Any early communities based out of Australia

rancid cypress
opaque pebble
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Sure thing

night fossil
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would certain mounts carry two people?

rancid cypress
night fossil
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ahk thanks!

vague thistle
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Somebody knows who are in spot testing now? Do A1 owners have access to it or not yet?

spiral pine
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NDA

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no one could tell you here

vague thistle
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Ohhh sry I thought NDA just meant they can't share images and feedback, I didn't know they can't even tell if they are in spot testing or not

teal junco
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question, does my account have a region that I am locked in? or can I change servers whenever I want

worn wagon
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Your characters are locked into the servers they are created on tho

teal junco
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makes sense

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so the region where I created my account doesnt matter

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because I heard there was something done to prevent people subbing for cheap no?

dark jungle
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if you live in a region with a discounted sub price you cant switch regions from that one, otherwise if you pay full sub price you can join any region

teal junco
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perfect

shell void
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@vague thistle

dark jungle
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non personalized for the most part

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but certain events will have some personalized loot

vague thistle
shell void
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@vague thistle Ack, sorry. It is a screenshot of the main Ashes website, not the wiki, where it says "Ashes of Creation is currently in periodic spot testing with our Alpha One testers. You must have an Alpha One key to access the current game during designated playtest times."

vague thistle
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I saw this sentence but I believe it is on the website since like many months/years isn't it?

shell void
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Not sure, but a mod in here earlier had said a similar thing, let me find the text...

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Sorry, I didn't find the one I was remembering, but another that says that Alpha 1 testers are among those under NDA, so perhaps they are still waiting for their turn to be included? Not sure (I have Alpha 2) but they do say to have your account hooked up to your discord for Alpha 1 key holders to be notified of the periodic spot testing that you can be included in.

vague thistle
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All right thanks for the great information

azure vector
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have they said when this months stream will be?

near stump
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Not yet, usually last Friday. They’ll announce likely on the 19th

azure vector
shell void
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@azure vector In last month's Livestream, Steven said that it will probably be a multi caravan pvp.

near stump
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Guys, they asked when it would be, not what it was about.

mint citrus
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Oops

rancid cypress
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When will we be able to ask a magic 8 ball answers to our questions in here?

shell void
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@rancid cypress We don't believe in the magic 8 ball here. Only the ModBot.

sick elbow
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.

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hehe

odd locust
# dark jungle non personalized for the most part

So (for clarification) for gathering, say, does this mean that the person who gets the last chop on the tree or rock gets the loot, and no-one else does? Does it also mean that once its harvested by one person, its not there for the next until it respawns?

near stump
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So if you start the channel first and aren’t interrupted, you’ll get the resources

odd locust
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Thanks. But to repeat the question, can anyone else get this loot if they are not the first person to channel? Or do they miss out and need to wait for the resources to respawn.

near stump
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They would need to wait for the respawn

odd locust
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Thanks!

near stump
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I believe resource spawns aren’t fixed, so it would respawn somewhere else. Can someone else verify this for me?

dense olive
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When release?

odd locust
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Alpha 2 will be in Q3 this year. Betas 1 & 2 to follow this. Then release.

ruby swift
ruby swift
# near stump I believe resource spawns aren’t fixed, so it would respawn somewhere else. Can ...

Lower level resources will be abundant. Higher level resources that are gatherable by Apprentice level or higher artisans will spawn randomly but in places that make sense for that type of resource. Surveying is a mechanic that solo or group players can utilize to track these resources down.[3]
We want to be able to spawn stuff randomly and we want to put it in places in the world that will make people travel and bolster up our local player-to-player economies: have people actually be out in the world looking for stuff and not standing in the same place waiting for a tree or a flower to respawn over and over again. So, we're having the best of the both Worlds where we have our lower tier stuff that will fill out the base look of our world, so that it's always looking good; and then the higher tier stuff, from apprentice onward, will always spawn randomly in places that we've deemed look good and make sense for what that thing is. So, surveying is a way that you can track that stuff down. It will help you find places, will help you find particular resources, will help you find resources at a certain rarity; and so it should be something you could do as a gatherer on your own, or group up with other people to bolster up the power of your survey, or the range or reach of it.[3] – Kory Rice

crystal beacon
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hi how do i refund a purchase from the shop?

ruby swift
# crystal beacon hi how do i refund a purchase from the shop?

Under limited circumstances, Intrepid may offer refunds or credits with regard to purchases you make in connection with Game Assets and microtransactions. You may submit a refund request directly to Intrepid by contacting us via our customer support platform or the payment system. Intrepid may determine, at its sole discretion, to honor a refund under the following conditions: (1) the refund is requested within ninety (90) days from the date of purchase of the item or Game Asset in question (“Purchased Asset”); and (2) The Purchased Asset has not been consumed or used in any way, manner or form prior to the issuance of any refund. Furthermore, and by no means a limitation of the foregoing, any “Ember Packages” purchased as a Purchased Asset may not be refunded or subject to a pro-rated or partial refund if all or any portion of the Ember Package is used prior to the issuance of a refund.

crystal beacon
ruby swift
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Try a different browser. Sometimes there are issues based on browser.

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If that doesn't work. Contact a mod here and they can tell when is a good time to escalate to a CM or other than can assist you directly on how to file a ticket.

stable badger
#

Anyone know about a list of Steven interviews ?

spiral pine
wise zephyr
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how likely is it to get an invitation to spot testing when i just bought the alpha pack

woeful zephyr
wise zephyr
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alright thx

icy torrent
quick lion
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i would assume getting close to A2 also A2 testers or at least some A2 tester as numbers will be involved aswell

crystal beacon
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Hey guys when is Alpha 2 is there a release date yet?

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TY!

west meteor
icy torrent
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well thats not reassuring

near stump
# icy torrent well thats not reassuring

Spot testing for A2 testers will likely open much closer to A2 launch. Margaret confirmed that A2 key holders would’ve invited to spot testing on a recent live stream. We just don’t know when and how much before A2 it will be.

wise zephyr
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ah ok, i watch the livestreams too but the talking part is in the backround like a podcast most of the time so i probably missed it

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thx

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also thx to InsertDisk

sick elbow
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There have to give us acces

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Or giving a refund

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Or something else

desert ivy
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You'll get access to A2, but spot tests are another thing

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PI for example start spot testing as early as this month

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A1 will start sometime later

fluid needle
# sick elbow But we payed for this

Please make sure you are reading what entitlements your purchases provide you so you may mitigate future disappointment. All relevant access was disclosed in the purchase.

icy torrent
molten birch
#

I bought the 250$ pack for A2 access, is it possible to upgrade it later on if I decide to do so or after Jan 17 there will be no possibility of upgrading to the 375$ pack?

desert ivy
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It's possible

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As long as you own a pack you'll be able to upgrade after the 17th

clever dove
#

Are we able to swap packs?

For example, say I got the current $250 pack but am not that keen on the art, can I swap it with someone who got an earlier pack but prefers the art of the current pack.

worn wagon
primal granite
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Are we able to merge two AoC accounts? Had intended to use them separately later on, but would rather consolidate them if that's possible. Unless multiple account linking will be a feature later on.

ancient egret
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Nope

primal granite
proper bobcat
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I cleared out my discord and accidentally left the server, how do i get my alpha tester role back so i can see playtests and alphas

proper bobcat
#

Amazing ty

teal junco
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I know this was asked before, but do we know when the deadline for upgrading packs is?

spiral pine
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nope

lunar agate
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rip

teal junco
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rip indeed

#

are we sure that we can upgrade past the 17th?

odd locust
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Yes.

teal junco
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alrighty

tawdry scaffold
#

I was curious with the barding cosmetics. If it's assumed that it will work with all types of mounts, or just specific types? Are they really gonna model it for all types of mounts and mount skins, or, just the ones selected in the images?

tender hearthBOT
#
Ashes of Creation Wiki

Mount barding (also referred to as Saddles) is armor for mounts in Ashes of Creation. Mount barding is similar in concept to player armor.

The higher the level of barding, the better looking it will be.
Barding will have multiple components that can be equipped. Each component will increase the stats of the mount, such as hit points and speed.
Ba...

dark jungle
#

all we know is in there ^\

tawdry scaffold
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Yeah, I checked the wiki and didn't see it. Thought I would ask and try my luck lol

dark jungle
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so if your mount has a barding slot then youc an apply one

tawdry scaffold
#

Ahhh, interesting

crystal beacon
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Is it normal that you dont get like a purchase confirmation by mail? Preorderered two weeks ago and the rest looks fine. Got the pack on their website in the Order History and inventory and payment went through via paypal. Still kinda confusing me not getting a mail after I bought it.

tawdry scaffold
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Going through the cosmetic skins in the wiki. I can see a few mounts pictured without barding. So, maybe that's partly what affects it too.

dark jungle
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generally they send confirmation by email but sometimes it ends up in there

tawdry scaffold
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The emails I got were from Intrepid. Try searching for that in your mail.

crystal beacon
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Cant find anything in the spam folder. The only mail I got was verifying my mail Adress

crystal beacon
spiral pine
#

when did you buy it?

crystal beacon
spiral pine
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if it went to spam

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its probably gone then

crystal beacon
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Yea thats true. I might have missed it.

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The mail verification mail wasnt in the spam tho and got through

dark jungle
#

!cs

potent thunderBOT
dark jungle
#

if you want to raise a ticket use this ^

crystal beacon
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Alright, thx!

crystal beacon
#

I see. Yea I opened a ticket asking to (re)send me a confirmation mail.

west meteor
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Hey uhhh

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Might wanna change that lol

shell briar
#

I heard there was some super secret test going on.

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would that be one of the alpha 2 spot tests?

dark jungle
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if someone answered you here it wouldnt be very super secret

quick lion
#

speculation would be... are they recording the january caravan-pvp only with devs or are they inviting some PI/Alpha 1 😉

karmic snow
#

You will be able to upgrade after the 17th, yes.

digital sonnet
#

If you have a Pre-Order pack, you can upgrade it later. This includes upgrading a lower pack, to one with Alpha Two access later.

The option to upgrade Kickstarter packs or Pre-Order packs won't be available forever, but right now there's no date to share for when the option to upgrade packs will end. The answer to this, and other questions, are at the bottom of the article here: https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-09-12-the-unseen-order

karmic snow
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We don't know when the upgrade period will end, but they have said we'll get lots of warning.

dire comet
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Hi, I recently just bought the Voyager pre-order, is there anyway to confirm this purchase through the AoC website? Also, are there additional steps to ensure I have access to A2? Thanks!

desert ivy
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If you bought the Voyager pack then you have access to A2, you don't need to do anything else, it's already applied to your account

spiral pine
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you can do that for now

dire comet
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ty ty

tawdry forum
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If we buy the lowest tier of package for beta access is it possible to upgrade the package to alpha access testing later on?

desert ivy
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Yes

limpid fable
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will there be an oceania based server for alpha 2?

halcyon bone
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no not for alpha but there will be for beta we have an oce guild if your intrested

limpid fable
jade hazel
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I apparently have 2FA enabled on my account, but my google authenticator on my phone doens't have it. This also means I don't have the recovery key. What do I need to do to be able to log in?

halcyon bone
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are you on iphone?

jade hazel
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no

halcyon bone
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oh i dunno then sorry

tulip hatch
silver mulch
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is there an alpha 2 role to request?

kind needle
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Wondering that as well. Just bought the pack for Alpha 2.

ancient egret
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no

near stump
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Can a mod or CM bring up this issue? Emails aren’t readable on iPhone

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This was the “Pre-Order Packages Are Coming to an End” email just sent

digital sonnet
# near stump Can a mod or CM bring up this issue? Emails aren’t readable on iPhone

Hey Renritar, we don't have the same issues when reviewing this email on our end.

We'd like to investigate this more to see what's causing this issue for you, and possibly other people getting these emails. If you don't mind opening a Support ticket, the team looking into this email issue would like to communicate from there: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000558614

While you can select any fields on this Support form, if you'd prefer you can select "I'm experiencing a technical issue" and "other."

whole dawn
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This is how it looks for me in the gmail app

near stump
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I’m using the gmail app as well

ancient egret
whole dawn
ancient egret
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no idea then

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that is something you can get banned for

ruby swift
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From last information given that is against their TOS when it comes to account transfers. Beware giving anyone money for something and Intrepid has stated in the past you may be subject to account action, and they will NOT support if you get scammed trying to buy KS or other accounts.

ancient egret
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no

little sleet
visual forum
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So the Preorder package sales are ending, but what about kickstarter package upgrades?

mint citrus
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No upgrades are ending

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No ETA on those ending

visual forum
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thanks

open granite
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Hello,
just received an reminder email that it's last chance to preorder game and it got me thinking if we got literally any update on EU customers who had purchased from my.com years ago.
Its been 4 years since Intrepid parted ways with my.com and announced EU players would get their account migrated, that they would be able to purchase already 'expired' cosmetics after migration etc. I asked about the status of migration around a year ago and there was still no update back then, my question on forum got parried and closed giving me no chance for further questions (rly?). At this point I am kinda at peace with the thought that Intrepid doesn't give a shit and I got scammed for couple hundred backs, but I thought it's worth asking last time and tbh I would just like to get a definitive answer, even explicit 'fuck off' would be nice.

For context, here's the original announcement post: https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2020-08-21-new-adventure-awaits
In the coming weeks, we will announce the migration steps for moving your account to Intrepid Studios, rest assured all purchases and achievements will remain with your account. - incoming weeks here is quite funny

ancient egret
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@digital sonnet

desert ivy
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This was the last update we got regarding it from Steven

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July 22'

open granite
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thats actually heart-warming to see it hasn't been completely forgotten, thanks

digital sonnet
desert ivy
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mygames giving refunds? PEPW

lucid sluice
#

Will buyers of alpha one testers be able to play alpha two as well?

open granite
whole dawn
desert ivy
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You have the adventurer pack so yes, you'll have access to A2

digital sonnet
desert ivy
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Tbf that page doesn't always say everything. For example it doesn't say I have alpha 1/2 or beta1/2 access Binoculargers

mortal forge
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Is the forum down already? It keeps demanding i set my contact email in profile settings WHICH I HAVE

lucid sluice
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Ok, I just know I payed $500 to be an alpha 1 tester. And for me not to be able to play alpha 2 would be really disappointing know how much I’ve already contributed.

lucid sluice
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Ok thank you!

kind needle
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When is Alpha 2 available?

shell briar
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still sooner than star citizen release...

mortal forge
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Also cheaper even if you get the most expensive package

finite roost
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So if I buy the $75 pack. I can upgrade later still?

mortal forge
desert ivy
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It's just if you don't own a pack you won't be able to buy one starting tomorrow (17th)

mortal forge
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Oooooh

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I thought it was going away as a whole

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On that note what does "intrepid pack" mean?

finite roost
ancient egret
mortal forge
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I mean i was here a long time ago and i don't have it so i'm curious

desert ivy
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So you have Leader of Men

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I have Intrepid Pack

mortal forge
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It's all so long ago i have forgotten a lot

desert ivy
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Damn you really did upgrade to PIPEPW

mortal forge
shell void
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@mortal forge Just remember that A2 is testing, is not feature complete, and does not represent the game in its final form.

mortal forge
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I reserve full judgement untill full release yes

finite roost
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I'm so curious about this game ngl. How was Alpha Ones test for those who played?

shell void
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@finite roost If you watch the development live streams with gameplay in them from that time, and compare it to the last two or three live streams, you will see that the game is in a completely different state from the A1 time period, so any replies would not give you an idea of how A2 will be.

finite roost
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I didn't ask how Alpha 2 will be tho 🤷‍♂️

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Just asked how was Alpha One lol

desert ivy
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Not much to do. Only 3 archetypes and combat was very basic. Networking was good though, had a 250~ man fight with no lag

thin plinth
#

How do I know what parmck I have an are there special channels?

desert ivy
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Can check there for your pack

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Atm there aren't any A2 specific channels

bleak pike
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does anyone know if there will be oceanic servers for aplha 2 ?

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hate to spend all this money and be on 200 ping lol

lucid cipher
#

Is there a Processing Skill for Gems? Gathered by Mining? and then straight to Crafting with Jewel Cutting ?.?

bleak pike
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dam i thought all that tpying you were answering my question lol

desert ivy
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There's quite a few people from OCE that played during past tests, and afaik they didn't really have an issue

lucid cipher
bleak pike
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ahh okay thank you @desert ivy

lucid cipher
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might be a short time with some in it, but it's not going to be the major focus

silver bison
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so the upgrade for the packs is still a thing right ?

desert ivy
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As long as you already own a pack, yes you can continue upgrading after the 17th

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If you don't already own a pack, then buying a new pack will be discontinued on the 17th at 11am PST

thin plinth
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I guess I got preorder plus

desert ivy
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Voyager Plus? If so you have A2 access

bleak pike
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@desert ivy so all packs will discontinue on the 17th?

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but you can still upgrade your orginall ones after 17th?

desert ivy
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Correct. If you don't own a pack after the 17th, you can't buy a new one. If you do own a pack then you can still upgrade

bleak pike
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aww sweet i thought they were just stopping you get aplha 2 packs , I already have a beta one

desert ivy
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Nah they're discontinuing all packs, not just Alpha 2. But if you own a Beta pack you can upgrade it to an Alpha 2 one after the 17th (if you want to)

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Although they'll probably re-open alpha/beta access at a later date as they say in their FAQ from September

bleak pike
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ahh cool cool , Thank you @desert ivy

bleak pike
#

Is there a separate Oceanic Aoc discord ?

mint hedge
bleak pike
#

ty

brisk citrus
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do the pre-order packages upgrade in a specific way or can I just upgrade in the future from a wayfarer up to a voyager?

desert ivy
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You can upgrade from wayfarer to voyager

brisk citrus
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Thank you

tight charm
#

Hi
My referral mate bought a pack, but I can't see any changes in my account balance. Is it OK?

rancid cypress
urban moat
silver bison
ruby swift
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Yes

rancid cypress
iron ermine
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will each archetype be shown before the a2 release?

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will they be finished enough to pick and play?

ruby swift
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They have made statements in the past that they will have done, what they have done. Could be only a partial list, could be them all. But by the end of A2, they will all be there, and that is all that really matters.

iron ermine
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ok, yeah, had seen that certain content was balanced for all 8 archetypes being present within a group, so was thinking that will be weird if those archetypes arent even there at first

ruby swift
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Balance is also not a concern for the start, but more towards the end and betas.

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You are not getting a game, you will be testing. That means shit aint gonna work the right way till much later in the process.

solid swan
#

Hello, 👋.

If the game package is coming to an end, why don't you allow your players to view and buy the previous older packages?
Like a "last chance to grab thing if you missed it"

fossil crane
#

How long does it take Embers from Referals to hit your account generally?

rancid cypress
rancid cypress
sick elbow
#

What are the working hours of Intrepid Studios
Customer Support?

west meteor
sick elbow
west meteor
sick elbow
muted scroll
ancient egret
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you would have been able to at the time but not now

muted scroll
#

Grazie! Thanks 😊 that’s what I was thinking, but the verbiage confused me a little, so I thought I’d clarify.

spiral pine
#

you can only buy the ones that are in the store now

glass mantle
#

Is there a way to view the older packages?

tender hearthBOT
#
Ashes of Creation Wiki

Cosmetics provide a wide array of customization in Ashes of Creation.

There are no pay-to-win gameplay benefits from any purchasable items.
All skin cosmetic items are cosmetic items only and do not grant the user any other benefit. The lore text is flavor text, and background of the creatures and items in the world of Verra.
Types of cosmetics:...

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Ashes of Creation Wiki search results
1: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1_testing>

...the last day for purchases of Alpha-1 through Intrepid pre-order packs (History). Sales of Alpha-1 resumed on May 5, 2021 through the Adventurer pre-order...

2: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1_availability>

...the last day for purchases of Alpha-1 through Intrepid pre-order packs (History). Sales of Alpha-1 resumed on May 5, 2021 through the Adventurer pre-order...

3: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1>

...the last day for purchases of Alpha-1 through Intrepid pre-order packs (History). Sales of Alpha-1 resumed on May 5, 2021 through the Adventurer pre-order...

topaz verge
#

Hey everyone, I currently have the "Braver of Worlds" package and want to upgrade to "Leader of Men". After tomorrow will i not be able to do that?

near stump
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You will still be able to. The deadline tomorrow only ends new pack purchases for people who have none

spiral pine
#

pack upgrades will be available for awhile longer

near stump
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They will give plenty of notice when pack upgrades will end for the store and KS

topaz verge
#

Perfect, thank you 🙂

blazing robin
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Sry for the dumb question, don't see any link on the site. I Just for voyager plus pre order pack, when/how will I be able to get into the game , and reserve name ?

near stump
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Name reservations will be closer to launch. No game to play rn. Alpha 2 coming Q3 2024

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Name reservations aren't for any of the testing phases

humble notch
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Guess I need to preorder tonight then

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Just gotta decide which pack to go with

near stump
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Tonight ends the ability to purchase your first pack. You can ugrade after today by paying the difference if you need to split up the cost over time

humble notch
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Anyone know what time they stop selling?

near stump
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January 17, 2024 at 11:00 a.m. Pacific

humble notch
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okay, thanks. That gives me a bit because I need to get an account for my partner as well

near stump
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Here is the entire FAQ

blazing robin
sinful isle
#

YES! 👍 😍

crystal beacon
#

So just to get that confirmation. If a person buys the Expeditionary Pre-Order Pack(150$) will they be able to upgrade that pack into a Pre-Order Pack that gives me access to Alpha 2? If so how?

desert ivy
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Yes. The store page will have the "Voyager" pack available to you on the store to upgrade to

near stump
#

Can I upgrade my pre-order pack after sales for the pre-order packs end?
Yes. You will continue to have the option to upgrade your Pre-Order Pack to a higher-tier package after sales of Pre-Order Packs end. If you upgrade, it will not give you the cosmetic items of the same type (Accessory, Pet, Mount, etc.) that came with the previous pack you purchased. Only the additional cosmetic items from the upgrade to The Unseen Order Pre-Order Pack will be granted.[2]

crystal beacon
#

I mean obviously but

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It's ya money, ask the obvious questions.

near stump
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The time to upgrade a pack will end at some point in the future. They will give plenty of notice for when that time will end

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You will pay the difference in pack price when you upgrade

merry fern
#

So I just purchased The Alpha Two key and the Beta Keys and I was wondering if we would be able to get any South American Servers or would South American Players will be forced to play in NA servers? I truly hope we can get some servers in Brazil in order to supply to the rest of us.

near stump
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There will be no SA servers for Alpha 2

tender hearthBOT
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Ashes of Creation Wiki

The world will be the same on each server, but Nodes will develop differently. Different servers will have different narratives. Things that happen on one server may not happen on another.

To answer your question about "what stops all servers from from progressing the same nodes," the answer to that question is "other players." Certain content is...

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Command cooldown is in effect. 3 seconds remaining

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Ashes of Creation Wiki

Ashes of Creation will launch with the following server regions:

North America (NA).
Europe (EU).
Asia/Pacific (SEA).
Oceania (OCE) (Australia).
The likelihood is very high for Sydney or Melbourne based OCE servers.
OCE servers may not be provisioned until Beta for Ashes of Creation (the MMO) and live launch for Ashes of Creation Apocalypse.
At t...

spiral pine
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you can however play on NA and EU servers

near stump
merry fern
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Thxs!

merry fern
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EU servers for South America is usually around 300 to 500 ping

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NA is about 150 ping

tawdry forum
#

Are the alpha and beta packs being removed from the shop or just the alpha packs?

spiral pine
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all packs

frail vapor
#

If im in canada can i play with my friend in eu severs ??

desert ivy
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Yes, there's no region blocking

grim shard
#

Is this game ever actually coming out?

icy torrent
near stump
# grim shard Is this game ever actually coming out?

MMOs take a long time to create. This unique in that the developers are providing a look into the entire development process every month which is why it feels like it’s taking longer. Other games like Riot MMO wont have ppl asking this question as much because we forget about it for long periods of time as development isn’t public

muted scroll
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Think about Starfield too. It had seven years of development from a highly renown, large company, AND single-player RPGs are generally a lot easier to create than MMORPGs. And Bethesda has 450 employees.

Ashes has been in development for as long as Starfield was, and is being done by a team a fourth the size as Bethesda at its PEAK.

Just some points to consider 😊

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Elder Scrolls VI had their reveal trailer almost six years ago. I remember watching that! And it’s wild to think it’s been so long since then, and it feels like the time has flown because we don’t check the Discord every day or get monthly updates.

patent bay
#

we know how long after the 17th the upgrades will be available?

civic yarrow
muted scroll
brittle yarrow
deep ether
#

does anyone know how to generate a referral code? I clicked generate on the website, where it prompts you to create the referral code but it doesnt seem to actually provide a code or a link

near stump
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If that doesn’t work, submit a support ticket

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!cs

potent thunderBOT
deep ether
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heres what its showing

near stump
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You’ll have to create a ticket. And I’d probably escalate it to a CM in here if your friend is trying to buy a pack before they’re take away tomorrow

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But do that after you create the ticket

deep ether
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ok cool, so reach out to one of the CM's after i create the ticket. Thanks!

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oh nevermind it just populated

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weird, sorry for the bother but thanks for the responses

clever dove
#

We are a caring community @deep ether... remember that when we gank you in the wild somewhere to take your stuff. 😛

merry fern
rancid cypress
sonic zodiac
#

Hope the game has horns or bugles

ashen snow
#

where would I be able to upgrade a pack?

dark jungle
#

at the store website

ashen snow
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ohh its right in the shop

dark jungle
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make sure you log in first

ashen snow
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thanks lex!

digital sonnet
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Adding the link to the shop page, to this command.

proud shell
#

Since I bought the $75 pack, when I go to upgrade say 100 days out (Beyond the refund window of 90 days), will I be able to refund after I upgrade? Because I may decide in the future that I’d just prefer to wait for the release of the game instead of A2/B1-2

desert ivy
#

I'd imagine you'd be able to get a refund for the A2 purchase (so the $175 upgrade), but not the original $75 purchase since you bought it 90+ days layer

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@digital sonnet Could confirm tho

mighty raven
#

Did you guys play A1? and if so, how was it?

mint citrus
mint citrus
mighty raven
#

What will A2 consist of?

digital sonnet
# proud shell Since I bought the $75 pack, when I go to upgrade say 100 days out (Beyond the r...

While we generally try to work with people, I wouldn't expect a refund if you're planning to do it outside of the normal refund policy period.

Even though it seems like you have this info, putting it here for others that may also have this question:

west meteor
stable mountain
silver bison
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i bought a pack is there anyway to connect to discord for role or something

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and is there anything else i need to do or am i good to go once i bought a pack

near stump
#

Nothing to connect for A2. No A2 discord role right now. You’ll get an email when testing begins

carmine flicker
#

hello i just bought the 250$ pack and i didnt get an email confirming that, is that normal?

dark jungle
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check your spam folder

carmine flicker
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also is there a way to apply to the nda alpha 2 test?

odd locust
#

Its not happening for 6 months. There is no information about it yet.

west meteor
faint night
#

how do we reserve names if we bought a name reserve package? 🧐

west meteor
faint night
#

oo ty

brisk citrus
#

will any of the benefits change for the higher tier packages after January 17th? asking because I plan on upgrading from my beta package to an alpha access package later on, but wanted to know if the alpha access will still be available in those packages.

ruby swift
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If they were to make any changes to what packages contain, the same "plenty of notice" would apply.

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But since they have no plans to offer packages in the future, there would be no reason to remove or change the upgrades.

brisk citrus
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ok thank you

pallid wolf
#

alpha one already occured right?

woeful zephyr
pallid wolf
#

i just bought a package but its not showing under purchases? im guessing itll show after a bit?

woeful zephyr
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I'm sure it'll show up soon

pallid wolf
woeful zephyr
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Yeah you're deff in then nod

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Also congrats on buying access!

dim verge
#

Will there be gesture interaction with other players like high five, hug, hold hands, and other friendly/romantic gestures for those who wanna take photos and roleplay?

rancid cypress
dim verge
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Yay! Ok, thanks both of you! Will read the link

lament surge
#

Hello, will be AOC playable on Linux ?

rigid rose
worthy verge
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oy i bough voyager preorder and im wondering those codes i got i use those on game client once aplha 2 hits? or is there client already that i can preload?

jade jasper
#

If I purchase the voyager pre order pack is it playable rn? Or is alpha 2 not out yet?

icy torrent
misty bison
#

Hey guys. Is it true that the alpha two testers can play as soon as the alpha two has started until the release date?

mint citrus
misty bison
mint citrus
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(With downtimes for patching and such)

misty bison
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The main thing is that I don't have to keep looking for something to play for months on end

ruby swift
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If you are buying a game to play, then you are going to be disappointed. The developers here have made multiple statements to that effect. While the goal is for A2 to eventually be persistent, it will not be that at the start. It will be up and down for periods of time as needed for updates, bug fixes, client upgrades and others. So one more time, DO NOT BUY if you think you are going to be "playing for months on end"

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@misty bison

misty bison
ruby swift
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All good. You would maybe not be surprised that we get people who purchase packages and have not done their due diligence and believe they can download the client right now, and other bad misconceptions.

misty bison
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Bebe all good, I already knew I wouldn't be able to play until July at the earliest, more towards the end of Q3 I think. But that's not a problem either. It's time for a game like this that offers an alternative to another big game

glass vale
kind storm
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Does the sell end at 2pm eastern time or central

desert ivy
#

That converts to your local time

glacial epoch
#

question for a friend, can you buy a pack with a prepaid debit card?

kind storm
#

O fuk

desert ivy
#

Just fyi, as long as you own a pack (can be the cheapest pack), you are still able to upgrade that pack after the packs end.

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So if you have the $75 pack, 2 weeks from now you can decide "I want to upgrade to Alpha 2" and you will be able to since you already own a pack to upgrade

rigid rose
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Not 100% sure.

shell briar
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I can 100% confirm that you can. I used my wisely ADP card from my job to buy mine.

pearl ocean
#

Will there be a beta or alpha for ps5, I don’t normally do betas xct but think this game will be the next main game people will go to after ESO,ff14

desert ivy
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Atm Ashes is PC only

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They may consider console after launch, but it's not a thing for pre-launch alpha/beta tests

pearl ocean
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Aww ok maybe next year then

desert ivy
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Ashes is almost certainly not going to launch this year or next

rich creek
#

When is the caravan pvp live stream? What is the date

desert ivy
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Usually streams are the last Friday of the month

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Although occasionally this changes

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They'll probably announce the stream date this Friday

rich creek
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Awesome. Thank you. Probably the stream I’m looking forward to the most. The PvP & the subclass system.

flat cave
#

A couple queations before purchase, The membership and currency will not be given until the games full release? Is that correct? Also, is there an estimated time for beta one release?

desert ivy
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Alpha/Beta playtime does not use sub time

tulip hatch
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No Beta timeframe only have the most recent ETA for Alpha 2 which is Q3

flat cave
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I was just held up by the possiblity of A) the alpha two taking another year before beta B) Infinite beta so I never get the rewards I pay for. I.E. a fornite type of thing. Where I am promised it, but the promised day never comes.

desert ivy
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Alpha 2 will last a long time. Personal opinion, but yes I would expect A2 to last longer than a year

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Current plan is that Betas are a "short but sweet" kind of test, the game is mostly finished by the time the Betas start, but it's for last minute polishing/bug fixes and marketing the game

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Alpha 2 is where the content and systems get implemented

flat cave
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Last thing, if I were to buy one of these expensive packages and they decide to nix the game, what would happen to the value of our membership? Does that portion just disappear or does it get refunded?

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Last thing #2, my bad. If I buy something in alpha or beta with my embers, will I retain them though wipes?

spiral pine
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embers are for cosmetics only

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so yes

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if they even decide to have a cosmetic shop in alpha and beta

kind storm
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For some reason I cant check out with paypal

desert ivy
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Try using a different browser

kind storm
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That worked thanks

near stump
#

Additionally, you can purchase the cheapest pack now and wait to upgrade. Upgrades will still be available beyond today. They may be removed eventually, but we’ll likely have 2+ months of notice given for when they plan to remove the ability to upgrade your pack.

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So if you’re uneasy about $250, spend $75

flat cave
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This is the only question I have remaining. if I were to buy one of these expensive packages and they decide to nix the game, what would happen to the value of our membership? Does that portion just disappear or does it get refunded?

near stump
cunning spruce
flat cave
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Gotcha, that makes sense. It's just happened too many times

lean sun
#

Yea unfortunately pre orders are always a gamble, but unlike osme past games, intrepid seems very determined to make the best game possible

flat cave
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If I upgrade to the $250 later, do I still get the cosmetics in the current package?

near stump
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Since this is the last pack

flat cave
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Also there isn't a $75 version, $150 is the cheapest

near stump
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There is a $75 option for beta 2 only

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And other things

flat cave
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I found it, thanks!

near stump
flat cave
#

Thanks for the answers everyone, I just bought the $250 version

flat cave
# near stump Yes

I am trying to get a friend to buy it now, you said if he buys the $75 now when alpha two comes he can upgrade to get the alpha two access?

dark jungle
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yes

flat cave
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ok cool he is buying now

spiral pine
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they will remove the option to upgrade your packs later down the line

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but they will give plenty of notice before that happens

near stump
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So you may not be able to still upgrade the day alpha 2 launches

flat cave
near stump
crystal beacon
#

Did you guys receive a purchase confirmation/transaction receipt directly from Intrepid after buying a preorder package? Or only from paypal (when bought with it) ?
Customer Support tells me they dont send any. But I heard different here.

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I havent received a purchase confirmation except the mail from paypal

spiral pine
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if support says so then it is so

untold hull
rancid cypress
crystal beacon
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Okay thanks. Then I did missunderstand it previously. Its all fine in the history and inventory - the package is there. Just confused me not getting a mail directly - since it seems to be common practice otherwise.

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But all good then 👍

icy torrent
red musk
crystal beacon
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Oh okay. Then it might have to do with the payment.

paper onyx
stable pecan
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I just went to purchase and I don't even have an option is this because of the country I live in ?

raven surge
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No not your country it's just permanently gone forever.

rigid rose
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!shop

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open granite
# digital sonnet Hey Blaymie, I don't have any additional update regarding My Games, outside of w...

So i gave it a try and to probably noone surprise considering My.Games reputation:

Dear Player,

Thank you for reaching out to us.

Given the extended period of time that has passed, it is technically not possible for us to process a refund for this particular purchase. However, we value your satisfaction and would like to offer you an alternative solution.

We have such games as Allods Online and Skyforge in our portfolio, and we would be happy to provide you with in-game currency for one of the specified games. This in-game currency can enhance your gaming experience and help you enjoy your journey.

Please let us know which game you would like to play and create a character in it. After that, we'll credit your account with hard currency equivalent to the payment that you made for Ashes of Creation.

Thank you for your understanding, and we look forward to continuing to serve you as a valued customer.

ancient egret
open granite
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didnt expect much from My.Games but this would not happen if Intrepid had not anounced "migration of EU accounts" which have never happened 😢

desert ivy
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It's cause as you said, mygames are ass

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Intrepid did a fucky wucky partnering with them in 2018

open granite
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sure, but it's little shameful there is so little support for these customers who had supported the game back in the days

raven surge
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Damnit keep forgetting I can't use gifs here

ancient egret
frigid kindle
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Afternoon.

dark jungle
silver bison
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since the shop has been taken down, if u own a pack is the upgrade option still available

desert ivy
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Yes

near stump
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!shop

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