#Comic Books & Graphic Novels

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blazing loom
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that character was as witty as ever

coral salmon
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Woo was amazing

blazing loom
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Woo is a treasure

coral salmon
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Darcy and woo had a real buddy cops vibe i loved it

blazing loom
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Randall Park KILLS the comedic timing with that character

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its on fuckin point

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he comes from multiple comedic roles too

coral salmon
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It's amazing tbh

blazing loom
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i cannot wait to see where those two pop up next

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there were some aspects i didnt like about wandavision but jimmy/darcy were at the top of my list of good parts for sure

coral salmon
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Wandavision was amazing and it rly set a high standard for Disney plus MCU shows

blazing loom
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yup

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i dont think its my personal fav of the shows so far tho

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hard choice but my top three rn are probly Loki, Hawkeye, and (potentially) Ms Marvel

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its not over yet so not entirely fair to place it on the list

coral salmon
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I don't have a fave

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Loki was great but it didn't have me hooked like wandavision

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Hawkeye was amazing tho

blazing loom
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until then its spot probly goes to falcon/winter soldier
but thats probably because of my Captain America bias
i still thought it was excellent tho

coral salmon
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That's cool

blazing loom
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nah wasnt asking to rank

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just pickin a couple faves

coral salmon
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Loki just didn't have me hooked like wandavision

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You knew what was happening unlike wandavision

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Yea that's why I loved it

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The speculation and theories were fun

blazing loom
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Kate is not annoying at all idk what you're talkin about

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i love her

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her and Clint's dynamic is what can make or break the show
luckily its incredible

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i love the dynamic of a fangirl meeting her hero and then going on a journey with him and annoying him at first then eventually winning him over by proving herself

coral salmon
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It's because she's inexperienced, sheltered and young. That's the point

blazing loom
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exactly

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THIS

coral salmon
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Clint is old and grizzled, she's a young and sheltered 21 yo

blazing loom
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hes right

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Kate was adapted very well to screen

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imo

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That show was very consistently good in my opinion I didn't really think it flopped in any way

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Aside from the fact I wanted a little bit more development for Clint

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But that's more of a nitpick tbh

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I've seen that opinion tossed around by other people too

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I don't know if I agree
Maybe I'm just blinded by the fact that hes back

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And right now I think I definitely liked him in the episode

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@coral salmon also imo Yelena Belova is shaping up to be a real star of phase 4

coral salmon
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She absolutely is

blazing loom
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god she's just so damn charismatic

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i disliked the black widow movie but MAN she's an excellent character

coral salmon
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If they write in her asexuality she'll be even more liked

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Due in large part to marvel having exactly zero LGBT reps lol

blazing loom
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Or is it like something that's been a part of her forever

coral salmon
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Not that I know of

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It's a pretty recent thing but retcons nothing

blazing loom
coral salmon
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I think she is

blazing loom
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wiki says her comic debut was in 1999

coral salmon
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Oh that's uh

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Still a long time, but in terms of comics, not too long

blazing loom
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old, but newer than i was expecting for some reason

blazing loom
coral salmon
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I think she's very niche tho, comics wise

blazing loom
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But I'm feeling very accepting of her as a replacement for Natasha in the MCU

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My only gripe is that I wish Natasha herself had more of an actual sendoff

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I think the Hawkeye series did a better job of acknowledging her legacy than the black widow movie did

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Because that movie doesn't really give us much more of her back story other than the stuff about her fake parents

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There's really not much else

coral salmon
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The black widow movie was like one of those OVAs in anime

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They're just additional info, nothing important

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Natasha deserved a better acknowledgement than the two scenes she got in endgame

blazing loom
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its done really well imo

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especially the scene at the end with him having to explain to Yelena what actually happened to her sister

coral salmon
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It's really well done yea

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Hawkeye was a great miniseries

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It felt self-contained and still impactful

blazing loom
coral salmon
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Mm

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Deserved, too

marble mason
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i love comics

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if only I had more space

normal heron
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Comics take up my entire closet

blazing loom
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this brought up a good point
Professor X ||has died 4 times on screen now||

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marble mason
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there’s more movies where he firs than where he lives

coral salmon
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I think it's actually just a little less

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X-Men 1-3, wolverine origins, dofp-dark phoenix, Logan, mom

marble mason
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idk he’s never really doing cool shiddd

coral salmon
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He died in four of the nine

marble mason
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always incapacitated or unable to use powers

coral salmon
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Almost over half

coral salmon
marble mason
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boring purposes

coral salmon
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He's one strong mofo

marble mason
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first class was class

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show us thennnn

coral salmon
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Huh?

marble mason
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half the xmen movies don’t utilise their characters well enough

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worked for logan because it honed in on a smaller story and had good stakes

coral salmon
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Ya it's a large cast

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It's not great but such is

marble mason
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he was cool in first class

blazing loom
marble mason
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good

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wolverine is the mc of every xmen it’s kinda tiring

blazing loom
# marble mason good

what im getting at is its odd for you to say he was great in that movie when he only says three words lol

marble mason
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Ah I was thinking of days of future

elfin gorge
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List of X-Men movies that make actually good use of a large ensemble cast:

blazing loom
elfin gorge
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Days of Future Past has three leads at best

blazing loom
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maybe four

elfin gorge
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Great Wolverine/Xavier/Magneto movie

blazing loom
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Logan, Prof X, Magneto, Mystique

blazing loom
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Everytime i watch it i cry that quicksilver wasnt in it more

elfin gorge
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Mystique is largely a plot device in that movie just like all her other movie appearances

blazing loom
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There are things to criticize that movie for even though it's great
One thing being that him being Magnetos son could have made for a much more compelling story line but it's addressed for like 1 scene

elfin gorge
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I like Quicksilver in that movie as a vacuum but not really as Quicksilver the character

blazing loom
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I believe it's addressed in Apocalypse but i mean
that movie's bad

elfin gorge
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Fast funny guy

blazing loom
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The only scene I like from it is the quicksilver eighties music scene

blazing loom
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I was hoping for it actually

elfin gorge
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The story of all X-Men film characters that aren't Wolverine/Xavier/Magneto

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Could've done way more with __

blazing loom
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i know this is slightly off topic but they definitely wasted him in Wandavision too

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craziest reveal i had seen in awhile then
nothing

elfin gorge
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One of the stupidest things about the X-Men movies, is they focus so much on Xavier but in pretty much none of the actually interesting ways about him

blazing loom
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could you explain to me what those interesting things about him are?
Since I don't read the comics

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im intrigued

elfin gorge
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Magneto and Wolverine are pretty much the only X-Men film versions that are actually like the characters they're based on

blazing loom
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I know you've mentioned the stuff about Xavier being a dick before

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but what else

elfin gorge
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Xavier is

  1. not british
  2. an arrogant stubborn son of a bitch
  3. has a savior complex while largely wrong about all of the stuff he pursues but you could never convince him of it
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Dude would probably wipe everyone on earth's mind before he admitted he was wrong about his idea and should maybe not be in charge

blazing loom
elfin gorge
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I have not seen it

blazing loom
elfin gorge
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Xavier really does have the best interests in mind for everybody but that goes out the window when it comes to defending his own ego

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Also he's not british, dude is from new york

blazing loom
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I can understand why him being a monk would definitely disappoint you there

elfin gorge
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The movies treat him like he's mutant Gandhi

marble mason
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fav film?

blazing loom
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yeah

marble mason
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I loved X2 as a wee lad

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I love nightcrawler

elfin gorge
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And he definitely thinks he's mutant Gandhi

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That much is right

blazing loom
marble mason
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I hope they recast all xmen tbh

elfin gorge
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But he's more like mutant Neville Chamberlain

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Fav movie is days of future past easily

marble mason
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yea same

elfin gorge
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The nightcrawler scene of X2 is epic and iconic

marble mason
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Peter Dinklage was fun in that movie

elfin gorge
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But I am not super fond of a lot of the rest of that movie

marble mason
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it’s alright like watchable enough

elfin gorge
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But I am biased against any movie that treats Cyclops like that

marble mason
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logan was fun but I would hardly say it’s an xmen movie

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doesn’t feel like honestly

elfin gorge
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Logan is definitely an alt-universe Wolverine movie

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I actually like that movie's Xavier

marble mason
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I reeeeeaaaally don’t like Patrick Stewart as professor xavier

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I don’t think he’s a good fit

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he was good in logan otherwise haven’t liked him in most other movies

blazing loom
marble mason
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the show was gud.. that and spectacular spiderman

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were my fav marvel shows

elfin gorge
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Charles Xavier should be a dude in his ~50s with a snooty mid-atlantic accent

blazing loom
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I don't mind Patrick Stewart as the character
Even if they still kept him as being British they could have made him accurate to the comics character personality like John said

blazing loom
marble mason
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have they ever shifted xavier or magnetos ages to be more contemporary..?
like their characters are pretty integral to historical events that would make them obscenely old

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I liked non british xavier

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Australian wolverine is bizarre

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that literally makes no sense

elfin gorge
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Him british isn't ridiculous or anything, he's upper class american and oxford educated. But I feel like giving him a british origin is just a little too shifted, he's supposed to be the son of new money new yorkers

marble mason
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yes I agree completely

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it tonally changes things

elfin gorge
marble mason
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that makes more sense

blazing loom
elfin gorge
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Like Xavier has literally been just given a new younger body multiple times, and Magneto was de-aged down to a baby and then re-aged back up to an adult man

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Magneto is not british no

marble mason
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I can’t keep up with any cannon.. I wanna finish that comic that is spiderman throughout different decades

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It was very enjoyable

blazing loom
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Where's magneto from in the comics

elfin gorge
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He's a german jew

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Pretty sure he's a german jew in the movies too right

marble mason
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he’s a holocaust survivor

elfin gorge
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Right

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Pretty sure they stuck to him being jewish in the movies

marble mason
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magneto’s excuse for not ageing is his manipulation of magnetic fields reducing his ageing process

elfin gorge
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Never heard that one

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I just remember him literally being aged down to a baby and then back up to an adult

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In the 70s

blazing loom
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I mean it's one way that they can explain him being around for World War II in the new movies

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I've heard people throw around the idea of him just being a victim of a different massacre
But the holocaust is literally core to his identity

elfin gorge
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I don't really see a way to keep him specifically as a holocaust survivor in a way that work for films set in the present day

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I could see shifting his origin to a different genocide, that's been floated among fan discussion a lot

marble mason
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It would be jarring yea

elfin gorge
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Having him be a Rwandan genocide survivor is an idea I'm not against

blazing loom
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And I saw people suggest Denzel Washington play him

marble mason
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honestly want something entirely different so I would like both of these

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I just want new takes on the xmen characters

blazing loom
# elfin gorge Having him be a Rwandan genocide survivor is an idea I'm not against

It's similar to how they did The Punisher in the Netflix series
They had to change his origin to be that he was a veteran of the Afghanistan war rather than Vietnam
And it really didn't change anything
He's still really accurate to comic book Frank castle and the changing of wars didn't really do anything he's still a changed man from his time there

marble mason
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I also think they should be able to balance the characters better.. expanded cinematic universes have gotten better since the earlier xmen movies

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I just want it to feel less bombarded with characters who don’t really get arcs or have really forced ones

elfin gorge
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The personal side of X-Men is both the best part and also the hardest to make work with film

marble mason
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I feel like the MCU does a way better job of pacing character arcs over multiple movies and making films with a lot of characters tie together much stronger than any of the mainline xmen

elfin gorge
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Which is why the best X-men media outside the comics have been episodic tv series

coral salmon
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He basically just took fantomex's body

coral salmon
elfin gorge
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Yeah he came back in fantomex’s body then right after HoXPoX he got killed in that body and brought back in a copy of his regular body

coral salmon
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Oh my god

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Rip fantomex body it lasted two seconds

blazing loom
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@normal heron I'm home and I'm gonna watch ms marvel in a few minutes

normal heron
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I'm gonna watch it after my parents are off work

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It'll be earlier this time because I don't have karate this week

blazing loom
normal heron
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Just ping me when you're free to talk

blazing loom
normal heron
blazing loom
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On the other hand though you will love the scenery of Karachi

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it was fun and vibrant

normal heron
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Fun and vibrant is like the whole vibe of this show and it works perfectly

blazing loom
normal heron
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Oh alright

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I'll ping you when I've watched it all

normal heron
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@blazing loom So if I were to have Matt Lintz (actor for Bruno on Ms. Marvel) sign something what should it be?

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He's coming to my local comic shop on Friday lmao

blazing loom
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You should get any of your miss Marvel issues that share story threads in common with the show

normal heron
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I'll send a few and see if you think they're winners or nah. I've got one in mind that might be really good

blazing loom
normal heron
# blazing loom Remember how some of the promotional images for the show directly matched the co...

This is true but since that happened a lot of those books have shot up in value. I'm kinda gonna try to bring one that doesn't have a lot of value so that I can have a signed and unsigned copy. I'm kind of weird with signed books. I don't really want signatures on my big boy books especially because there's no way to authenticate the signature through a third party grader at this meet and greet event

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There's also this one but it is very sad

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I don't think that one is super great

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As you can see Bruno has a tendency to be left out a lot. Makes me feel bad for him ngl

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blazing loom
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thats a good one

normal heron
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Aaaayyyy this one is not too bad

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blazing loom
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has an old school vibe, i like

normal heron
blazing loom
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oh

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is it kamran at the table

normal heron
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Red Dagger

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He's gonna be in this show too

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It is confirmed

blazing loom
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have you watched the episode yet

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BRUH

normal heron
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No

blazing loom
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||red dagger makes his appearance||

normal heron
blazing loom
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ok

normal heron
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Not really a spoiler

blazing loom
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k

normal heron
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Just something that had to happen lol

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I'm glad tho I like him

blazing loom
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i had forgotten lol

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that it was ever reported

normal heron
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LETS FUCKING GOOOO BRUNOOOO

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Although this may be the book I ask him to sign

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Reprint of the first appearance of Kamala Khan and Bruno

blazing loom
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Bad take

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Also that's a really unfair comparison
They are trying to have their own unique style and I think they succeeded
I grew up with Disney Channel in its PRIME and not for a second did I think this reminded me of that at all

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Maybe you're just too used to superhero movies being needlessly dark
If every comic book adaptation was super dark that would make this genre redundant

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I like that type of stuff when done right for sure, but they can't all be the same

normal heron
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Agreed to what skeet said here

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Also I finished episode 4

blazing loom
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Also I hate the argument that this is a kids show
Is absolutely not
In fact many of the themes are things that people of all ages can relate to
not to mention she's a high schooler
No one said that about spider man homecoming and it took place when he was 16

normal heron
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It was great

normal heron
blazing loom
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Exactly

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Great comparison for this idea is Star Wars the clone wars
This show features so many people getting stabbed right through the chest and incredibly dark themes

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Yet many people have always labeled it a kids show just because it aired on Cartoon Network originally

normal heron
blazing loom
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Yep

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Marvel aren't just all of a sudden going to say "yeah this is targeted for 8 year olds"

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its not

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its for EVERYONE, for gods sakes

normal heron
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It's also just in spirit of the character to have it more lighthearted

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Not everything is Batman or The Boys

blazing loom
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Exactly what I was just saying

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Yeah

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I like when the light hearted stuff can be done right
And there are plenty examples of the dark stuff being done wrong
for the love of God don't watch titans

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I regret every 2nd i sat through in season 2

normal heron
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Lol Titans

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What a show

marble mason
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I actively don’t watch any of this stuff.. but new thor looks fun

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I like the source material

blazing loom
marble mason
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lol

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I don’t care enough about any of this stuff to have any serious opinions

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I’ll dip in every now and again when something sparks my interest

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thor looks fun

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maybe I’ll watch it in a year lol

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taika is great at making stand-alone superhero stuff

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I sincerely don’t care about CUs

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too much investment

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yea.. Idk I saw spiderman and felt like whatever about it

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I enjoyed thor ragnarok, guardians movies are fun, then i really struggle to care about anything

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but it’s obviously good for people who like it

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I can appreciate stuff made for people like me who just want a solid superhero story without the baggage of all this shared universe bs

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I looooved into the spiderverse.. watched that for the first time like late last year

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I’m a casual watcher I really hate having to keep up with multiple movies to understand the greater point of all this, it’s good/bad

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I know a bit about comics lore whatnot but I never feel satisfied by the contained stories when they’re overstuffing all this extra lore stuff.. a lot of the time it doesn’t feel in universe and feels more like pure distilled fan-service

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I catch some of that idk.. DC makes fun standalone.. I liked suicide squad the newer one, batman had some good stuff

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shazam was really entertaining on just a casual level

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I always liked non DC and Marvel comics and getting a lot of adaptations of weirder stuff has been really great

normal heron
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It's PG

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I don't know dude but I think we have quite the leg up on you here because you supposedly just watched an episode of Ms. Marvel and yet you're calling the show Captain Marvel...? I mean call me "MCU die hard" or "Captain Marvel die hard" but please know the name of the show you are watching before you go on Discord talking about it

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Also @blazing loom I found a $150 book in extremely low grade in the dollar bin at my comic shop today

normal heron
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It's TV-14 right now but it was PG before it came out and then it changed to TV-14 and then it changed back to PG. After that it changed BACK to TV-14 and here we are today

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blazing loom
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people who think all mcu movies are "the same" clearly haven't seen all of them

marble mason
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I don’t tbh.. it’s kinda I just know what I’m getting into with a MCU movie.. and if Im going to watch one I will have to already be interested in whatever the film is about..

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it’s not necessarily that “they’re all the same”

blazing loom
marble mason
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I don’t see why it’s bad to have a slight aversion to a type of movie.. I can say without a shadow of a doubt I won’t get much outta the majority of MCU movies I don’t see

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they’re made for fans of the CU and those characters

blazing loom
normal heron
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We already have a Justice League

marble mason
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they really weren’t built of the Cinematic universe each hero gets their own setup.. half the cast had a film after Justice League

normal heron
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We still already have a JLA

normal heron
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I mean the movie wasn't good but I wouldn't say the existence of the Justice League in the DCEU is forgettable

normal heron
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Yeah they've very much been the topic of a lot of conversation in here lately

normal heron
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@blazing loom

elfin gorge
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X-Men Red goes fucking hard I love magneto, read #4 yesterday and it is 😩

wide ore
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found it, was talking about the irony of a show like that being an amazon thing

blazing loom
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what do you mean

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why is it ironic

marble mason
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amazon making a show about an immoral company, that does unethical things, exploits people and uses spin masters to maintain a reputable public image

normal heron
elfin gorge
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It fucking RULES

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Immortal X-Men is good too but Red is unparalleled

normal heron
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I'll see about reading them on Marvel Unlimited eventually

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What I'm most looking forward to is Chip Zdarsky's new run on Daredevil

elfin gorge
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You would need to catch up on some things to fully appreciate it

normal heron
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Probably

elfin gorge
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But those things are all on unlimited

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You would probably be fine just going in based off of HoXPoX and Planet Sized X-Men but really it builds so well on everything Hickman wrote for the X-Men

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If you read HoXPoX alone even I could probably give a fitting run-up but I can’t recommend it enough

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But I’m not about to say skip HoXPoX that would be a gross mistake

normal heron
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I can probably stomach HoXPoX but aint no way in hell I'm reading X of Swords

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22 parts fuck no

elfin gorge
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It's good as fuck

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HoXPoX is something to stomach digest and realize your life has changed after reading

marble mason
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did you all read comics as kids because I never had superhero comics growing up, I either had like news paper tier comics or weirdly mature arthouse graphic novels

elfin gorge
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I didn't really get into superhero comics until I was an adult

normal heron
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@blazing loom I have decided that if when I get there I want Matt Lintz to sign a comic book, this is the one

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The series that comic is in is from the 2015-2019 series

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Lasted 38 issues and I own every single one of them

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Plus some variant covers

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And I also own the entire 2014 run plus some variant covers and second prints

blazing loom
normal heron
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I am missing 2 issues of the 2019-2021 run. If I get those 2 issues I will have a complete legacy run of Ms. Marvel comics. This means I have every issue of every volume of every solo series of Ms. Marvel

normal heron
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It's just a great cover overall

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So many great covers of hers

blazing loom
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Yeah just reminds me of how the show has showed that he is really smart and is into science

normal heron
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Like look at this

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blazing loom
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like a real peter parker type

normal heron
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Matt Lintz was in the running for Spider-Man

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He got edged out by Tom Holland

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Yeah

blazing loom
normal heron
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Lintz would've been great but I think Holland was the right choice

coral salmon
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It's towards the same audience as most of the MCU

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There's not a big sign screaming "IRON MAN IS ONLY FOR ADULTS AND MS MARVEL IS ONLY FOR TEENS"

normal heron
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At the LCS he's coming out in about 10 minutes

blazing loom
normal heron
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@blazing loom I got to meet him. Dude was soooo nice

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And his lips were SEALED

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He said he feels like Kevin Feigie has a laser pointed at his forehead

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He signed my book and it looks cool af

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We also mentioned how my mom was a big Walking Dead fan and at no extra charge gave us a signed picture of him from The Walking Dead

blazing loom
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i used to watch that

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Oh I see who he is now
His performance is more recognizable towards the end of the series and I only watched up to season 8

normal heron
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Yeah dude was super cool

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Lemme send a picture of my signed book now

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Glad I chose a great Bruno cover to get signed

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That was definitely the right move

blazing loom
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like man they definitely cast the perfect Bruno

normal heron
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Only difference is that Bruno on the comics had longer hair

blazing loom
normal heron
coral salmon
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That's cool as fuck

normal heron
normal heron
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Ms. Marvel is just deadass that good

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I don't know what to tell you

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Not everything has to be mature and edgy to be good

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I haven't seen DD

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And I have no doubt it's good

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But Ms. Marvel is really 10/10

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For me anyway

blazing loom
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Daredevil is insanely good but it doesnt need to be compared to Ms Marvel

normal heron
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Yeah they're also so very different

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Ms. Marvel just feels like so much love was put into it

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From the actors especially but everyone else too

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Also the fact that this is Iman Vellani's first role in anything ever and she's nailing her character like this is truly something to admire

blazing loom
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i dont get your dislike

normal heron
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But... you can't give a reason? Don't take this the wrong way but I can't accept your opinion until there's something supporting it

blazing loom
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Iman Vellani literally oozes charisma

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thats just wrong too

normal heron
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I wasn't comparing it to DD. I was saying it lives up to the Rotten Tomatoes score

blazing loom
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nobody was saying it wasnt good

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Daredevil is objectively fantastic
i was saying its a very different style of show dude

normal heron
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I mean I don't think I'd have to watch DD to know you probably shouldn't compare the two

blazing loom
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unnecessary to compare it to the clearly very different style of show that ms marvel is

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not really sure what this sentence is even trying to say

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yes i have seen daredevil

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Ok

normal heron
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Skeet

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Have you played Cuphead

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Yet

blazing loom
normal heron
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Really bad 😭

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It's one of my favorite games

blazing loom
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then i will ping you in the proper thread

normal heron
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👍

normal heron
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Ok

coral salmon
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Lol ok but it probably was

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You realise Gorr the God Butcher literally crucifies and beheads and fucking decimates people??? Marvel aren't about R rated movies.

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Anyway, @normal heron you should watch the boys cos it's good and you'd like

normal heron
coral salmon
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They are owned by Disney

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There's your reason

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No, Thor is not a Fox franchise.

blazing loom
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I don't really think that would fit with the really colorful vibe of this movie and Taika's previous thor film

normal heron
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Not only would it not fit but MoM wasn't gruesome whatsoever. It was just on the more extreme PG-13 violence levels. Besides with Sam Raimi, the director of Evil Dead making it, it only made since to put a bit more violence into it.

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Also intense scenes don't necessarily add to a movie

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He was trying to say he likes Marvel licensed by Fox more

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Ms. Marvel has some of the best MCU camera work period

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So does MoM

blazing loom
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yeah

normal heron
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@blazing loom Thor Love and Thunder is mid

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normal heron
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Oh

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Sorry

blazing loom
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I already bought my ticket I was just waiting to see it

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I don't really care about the ratings right now
I was trying not to read anything

normal heron
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I mean it's just reviews

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It's still gonna be good I bet

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Sorry dude

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I didn't know about that

blazing loom
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I know but that's the same god damn rating as the dark world

normal heron
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I will not do that in the future

blazing loom
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now you made me nervous

normal heron
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😭

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Well

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If it makes you feel any better it's back up to 70%

blazing loom
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I don't get it everyone was saying they were so proud of this movie

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Taika especially

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Or maybe this is just the result of all the cut content I've been hearing about

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apparently his original cut was 4 hours

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I just heard this morning that they cut scenes with Peter Dinklage and Jeff Goldblum's characters

normal heron
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I would have waited for an at home release at that point

blazing loom
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and i heard a few days ago they apparently cut a character that was played by Lena Headey

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from Game of Thrones

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Imma be honest, this is a trend im noticing alot

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Marvel has a cutting content problem

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in this phase specifically

elfin gorge
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Plenty of pretty good movies end up with RT scores in the high 60s, that's a positive reception so far

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And also, movies are about your own enjoyment, don't feel nervous about seeing a movie you're excited to see just because it hasn't gotten universal acclaim

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I hate how we've diluted film criticism so much that a movie has to either be bad or amazing

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A movie can be good and a movie can have criticism, both can be true

blazing loom
elfin gorge
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Fair

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But also a percentage of positive/negative reviews also doesn't tell you really anything about how the movie is judged

blazing loom
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I don't really care about critic reception to MCU movies anyway because I watch everything they make regardless

elfin gorge
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Who knows what critics are praising/criticizing

blazing loom
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I really hope the parts they don't like doesn't include Gorr the God Butcher

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I have no doubt Christian Bale crushes it but I would be devastated if it somehow turns out that he was wasted in this movie just like Christopher Eccleston in thor TDW

elfin gorge
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I didn't know gorr was supposed to be in this one, makes sense with the jane foster thor and everything though. Seems they're adhering to that storyline a lot

blazing loom
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in the trailer

elfin gorge
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Oh shit

blazing loom
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its actually been known for while that gorr is the villain

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like at least a year i wanna say

elfin gorge
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Yeah I haven't been following at all

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And didn't recognize him in the trailer

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Bit of a change in appearance but it makes sense

blazing loom
elfin gorge
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Gorr's comic look wouldn't translate that well, I like it a lot actually. Just didn't recognize him

blazing loom
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ohhhhh

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gotcha

elfin gorge
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Looks better than a CGI monstrosity trying to look like the comic version

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I'm excited now actually I love that thor run

blazing loom
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yeah im glad they went that route because i didnt want Christian Bale to be unrecognizable

elfin gorge
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At least I like the ending of it. The finale of Jason Aaron's thor run is epic as fuck

blazing loom
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hes just done up in white skin
you can tell its him

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i like that

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just MAN Christian Bale is one of my favorite mcu castings in a LONG time

elfin gorge
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This would be a bit weird on the big screen

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That mini that is basically the grand finale to aaron's thor story is so god damn good

blazing loom
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no nose

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or flat nose

elfin gorge
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Bit more grotesque

blazing loom
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yeah looks that way

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but you can still see why it reminds me of voldemort right

elfin gorge
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I do

blazing loom
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i didnt know you had read any thor comics

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thats cool

elfin gorge
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Yeah I've read the Jason Aaron run that it seems love and thunder is largely adapted from

blazing loom
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Bruh
dont tell me that

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COMEON

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thank you

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no offense but you arent really telling me anything that i dont already know
aside from Gorr not being in it alot
thats not something i wanted to know before the film releases

marble mason
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they always have these big actors play villains who are cool and interesting but ultimately don’t do much and go away

blazing loom
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@normal heron It's Ms Marvel time

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I'm taking a break from my classwork and I and I'm gonna watch it

normal heron
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I'm going to watch it probably after dinner

blazing loom
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Just let me know when you're finished

normal heron
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And yeah it was weird but I'm also kinda hyped for the finale (which I will not watch until the weekend after it's out because I'm going on a weeklong campout next week and there is 0 cell service 😭)

blazing loom
normal heron
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Ohhh let me know how that movie is

blazing loom
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We gotta talk about the episode 1st

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i may be able to at like 4

normal heron
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But there is one thing I will mention. It looks like we're getting ||comic accurate Kamran||

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blazing loom
normal heron
blazing loom
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||the DODC will be a villain of sorts for the final episode||

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||in their appearances in the previous episodes they were doing a racial profiling kind of thing||

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marvel was essentially doing kind of a social commentary on that

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||and since they're clearly still targeting Kamran and Kamala, and that Clan Destine woman was turned to ash, who else could serve as the opposing force for the finale||

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||there have to be stakes obviously||

normal heron
normal heron
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Also Rolling Stone dropped the worst list of all time

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Enough said

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marble mason
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ngl ghost rider is kinda funner

normal heron
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Absolutely no way in hell is it the better movie

blazing loom
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its not like it really delves deep into the character of johnny blaze

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its just nic cage being nic cage

normal heron
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Yeah

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I encourage you to look at the list

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It will make you angry

normal heron
marble mason
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I think they’re being courteous to snyder cut

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realistically it’s 2 movies or like a mini series it’s hardly a movie

normal heron
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I mean... it's just a really long movie

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Just because it's long doesn't make it not a movie

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And it is certainly better than other things ranked higher on the list

blazing loom
normal heron
marble mason
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it’s segmented into parts and is hardly a movie imo

normal heron
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Just because a movie has 10 second screens in between major acts to distinguish different parts of the movie doesn't make it any less of a movie. It is still continuous and and frankly I watched it in one sitting

marble mason
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being a 4hr movie really discounts it imo also

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it’s fairly placed

normal heron
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The Godfather Part II is 3 and a half hours long. Considered one of the greatest movies ever made

blazing loom
normal heron
blazing loom
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far from home isnt as good as homecoming imo

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but yeah wtf why exclude no way home

normal heron
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Well when you have Homecoming at 12 Far From Home ought to be put in there

marble mason
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they’re playing fast and loose with what constitutes as a superhero considering robocop is on there

normal heron
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I'm sorry but Black Panther at #1 is complete bullshit

marble mason
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the whole thing is a farce

normal heron
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Still can't believe they put Ghost Rider on there

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That's like putting the Elektra movie on there

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How the fuck did Elektra even get a movie

blazing loom
normal heron
blazing loom
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for a variety of reasons

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like seriously wtf

normal heron
#

And in what universe is Doctor Strange 2 better than The Dark Knight Rises

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0

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0 universes

blazing loom
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also i wouldve put 2012 avengers in top 10

normal heron
#

Yup. Tank Girl is deffo better than The Batman

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blazing loom
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its still incredible and changed the game in so many ways

normal heron
blazing loom
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but its 41 wtf

marble mason
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If they woulda said comic it would somewhat be more logical

blazing loom
#

again

normal heron
marble mason
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some respectable picks that are gems but Id definitely say half the shit on the list is comic and not superhero

blazing loom
#

DONT CALL YOUR LIST TOP 50 SUPERHERO MOVIES
IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT MOVIES BASED ON NON-SUPERHERO COMIC BOOKS

normal heron
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I will stop whining when someone explains to me how this is a superhero movie

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blazing loom
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whoops
fixed that

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yeah

marble mason
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really confusing

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I feel like the write ups for each pick are interesting

normal heron
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Worst take in the article

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This is undoubtedly #1

marble mason
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mehhh don’t agree

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great movie

blazing loom
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Bruh robocop isnt a superhero movie

marble mason
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great superhero movie…? pretty mehhh about that

blazing loom
#

its a gory cop movie

marble mason
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even the article is like yea this is bs

blazing loom
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Robocop isnt even based on a comic either

marble mason
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so… it’s ultimately movies

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I would say it’s a comic movie.. it feels similar and definitely has that tone

normal heron
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But it's not based off a comic

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So while it may show qualities, technically, it is not a comic movie

blazing loom
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Robocop belongs more in sci-fi category

marble mason
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I disagree.. it’s very pulpy comic origin story

blazing loom
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and most sci fi movies arent based on comics anyways

marble mason
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I think a lot of robocop 1/2 was written by comic writers

normal heron
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I believe, simply put, a movie that is called a "comic movie" must be based off a comic of some sort whether it's a strip, book, magazine, whatever

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Technically

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The Peanuts Movie IS a comic movie

blazing loom
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Yes

marble mason
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that would be a comic book movie

normal heron
#

Thoughts on Elliot Page replacing Ezra Miller?

blazing loom
normal heron
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It wouldn't be the worst choice ngl

blazing loom
#

really anyone can replace him

normal heron
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But Grant Gustin is better I think

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How was Love and Thunder

blazing loom
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I really liked it!!!!

normal heron
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Dude sick

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Ok so

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Hmmmm

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Are there any characters that you did not expect to see?

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Please answer these questions strictly yes or no so there is no figuring out the movie

blazing loom
#

a few actually

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Yes

normal heron
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Ok ok

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Is anything related to Ms. Marvel in it

blazing loom
#

sorry to disappoint but no

normal heron
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Fuck

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It was a long shot but I tried

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Hmmmmmmm

blazing loom
#

ok very VERY minor spoiler

normal heron
#

Go ahead

blazing loom
#

she appears in the marvel studios banner logo

normal heron
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LETS GOOOO

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Glad she has her place now

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In the banner logo

blazing loom
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you just gotta pay attention

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i caught it

normal heron
#

Do the post credit scenes set up something cool

blazing loom
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Yeah they were both awesome actually

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Tbh they're my favorite couple of mcu credit scenes in awhile

blazing loom
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i think its very charming, rather heartwearming at times

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You will love the action sequences and how colorful it is

normal heron
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That's great man

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Glad you liked it

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I'll probably see it after next week after I get back from camping

blazing loom
# normal heron That's great man

This is another minor spoiler because hes in the trailer
but i wanna say this
Russell Crowe as Zeus was a surprising standout for me

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That was fucking hilarious

blazing loom
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To be honest I was saying all of this under the assumption that you were going to see it in just a few days

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oof

normal heron
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No no

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It's good dude

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This won't ruin the movie for me at all

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This is just kinda stuff I want to sit on and think about

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Yk?

blazing loom
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Like if I tell you anything I'm only going to tell you things I like

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I don't want to say something negative and ruin your perception of the film

normal heron
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Nah nah

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I'm sure I'll really like the movie

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I'm not one to make an opinion based on what other people tell me either

normal heron
blazing loom
#

He said he hasn't seen The Batman yet

normal heron
normal heron
normal heron
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@blazing loom Ms. Marvel sticks the landing in a big way

blazing loom
#

It's of course been 3 days now since I saw that episode

blazing loom
#

I thought some of the CGI moments were a bit mindless this episode but it still had alot of heart like usual

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||I think my main issue is that I didn't really buy why DODC was going after Kamran and Kamala||

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||Like there's not really a great reason given||

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||Like I said before it's possible that it's a racially motivated attack and this is Marvel doing a social commentary on that but they don't really address that||

normal heron
#

||Also Kamala is a MUTANT||

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That's just awesome

blazing loom
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But I don't want to ignore the fact that there was so much other great stuff here

normal heron
#

Yeah there was. ||I wonder if we'll see Kamran again. It seems like they left the door open for him to return||

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Also @blazing loom my family and I are finally going to see Thor Love and Thunder today

blazing loom
normal heron
#

The first appearance of Gorr tanked from $240 to $90 in the matter of one week 💀

blazing loom
normal heron
#

Bruh is that real

blazing loom
#

yes that is this mans actual title

normal heron
#

Yeah that's a bit much

blazing loom
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It's like a 68% at the worst

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Far from sucking

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And he has absolutely no place to say the mcu is dead

normal heron
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People need to throw the MCU a bone. They just got done with the single biggest crossover in movie history. It's gonna be a while before the movie quality and storytelling starts to pick up again.

blazing loom
#

It has been 3 years but you're not wrong
The pandemic had an impact on that

normal heron
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Yeah it would have been about 1.5 years if not for covid

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The Marvel God says that the direction will be clear towards the end of phase 4

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I trust him

blazing loom
#

My only real criticim of the mcu as a whole lately is what i call "cut content syndrome"

normal heron
#

Yup

blazing loom
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This movie probably would have less haters iif they had made it at least 20 minutes longer

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You'll see what I mean

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It's got the same problem as multi verse of madness

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It just feels like there was stuff they planned
But it's missing

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There were like 3 characters coming back that were cut from love and thunder

normal heron
#

Interesting. I'll see for myself later. I think I'll like the movie though

blazing loom
#

a role from Game of Thrones alum Lena Headey that was entirely scrapped

normal heron
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Zamn

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Not really something you want to see scrapped

blazing loom
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Yeah she's great

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I don't want to ruin the movie for you I'm just telling you
This is stuff I heard about before the movie even came out

normal heron
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Yeah yeah I know

blazing loom
#

Jeff Goldblum's grandmaster character from Ragnarok was completely cut

normal heron
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As long as I don't get told any major plot points I'm good

blazing loom
#

its just really disappointing

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they cut that much

normal heron
#

Taika said the OG cut was like 4 hours long

blazing loom
#

I can understand cutting Peter Dinklages giant dwarf from Infinity War
But Jeff Goldblum's grandmaster was so great and we've waited 5 years to see another thor movie I really wanted him back

blazing loom
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I just want to make the point that the MCU is worthy of criticism but I think a lot of what general audiences are criticizing it for isn't fair

normal heron
normal heron
coral salmon
blazing loom
coral salmon
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Nah I doubt it

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A lot of the gorr stuff is too gory for the rating it has

#

Crucifixions, maiming, the works

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It's brutal

blazing loom
#

||Going into the movie I actually expected Gorr to just show up and kill Zeus||

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||100% did not expect Thor to impale him||

coral salmon
#

Better than nothin

blazing loom
normal heron
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@blazing loom Dude

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Thor Love And Thunder disappointed me

blazing loom
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im interested to hear

normal heron
#

It just felt like a tonal disaster

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It was overly campy for no reason and a lot of the jokes just didn't land

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||I felt like Jane Foster Thor was completely wasted too.||

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||There was just no balance. It went from an action movie to a straight up comedy to a tension filled encounter with Gorr to an emotional goodbye to Jane. It just didn't know what it wanted to be ||

normal heron
#

||They just glossed over Jane's origin as Thor. We never even figure out what kind of cancer she's ailing from. How did she just... become worthy? The Guardians of the Galaxy just felt shoehorned in and there were pacing issues all around towards the beginning. That being said, I was still mildly entertained. 6/10 for Thor Love And Thunder||

blazing loom
blazing loom
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@elfin gorge i would love to at some point have a conversation with you about these casting choices

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this guy does a very thoughtful breakdown of the characters and what is needed to play them well

coral salmon
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Stage 4 brain cancer

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It's mentioned multiple times

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||She was never "worthy", Thor asked Mjølnir to always protect her and it obliged.||

coral salmon
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It's just a dumb campy movie and if you don't take it seriously it's enjoyable

wispy whale
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@normal heron Was finally able to log into my Comixology account! cat_hype

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Support was super helpful and quick to respond. I don't think they understood my issue at first but once they did they sent me to the right page lol.

blazing loom
wispy whale
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I have more in my library than I thought I did flush

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I think I might've bought a physical copy at one point too, maybe like issue 9?

blazing loom
wispy whale
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Yeah most of them probably were lol

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I thought I only had Saga and Jericho

blazing loom
#

i have a feeling you wouldnt choose to buy the walking dead issue 1

wispy whale
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Definitely not lol

blazing loom
#

i think i got that for frr somewhere too lol

wispy whale
#

That's way too daunting of a series to try to get into when I'm not THAT interested

blazing loom
#

but like
its a physical copy

wispy whale
#

I think I might've bought Invincible too

blazing loom
wispy whale
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Oh I'm sure

blazing loom
#

i wont go too in depth but i will say, i felt the comics had a bit more thoughtful storytelling

wispy whale
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Most written media usually does

blazing loom
#

the show always tried too hard to cater to its dumb audience

wispy whale
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That's annoying

blazing loom
#

because it was a very popular show at one point

blazing loom
#

i was annoyed

wispy whale
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That usually happens with any long running show and it's always annoying

normal heron
# coral salmon Stage 4 brain cancer

||I can find nothing online about stage 4 brain cancer. Only breast cancer. And even then I don't remember them specifically saying breast or brain cancer||

normal heron
normal heron
blazing loom
#

she has read scott

wispy whale
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That's the stuff I already own lol

blazing loom
#

read that one book

wispy whale
#

Granted I haven't read EVERYTHING I own but still

normal heron
#

But since you have, good

blazing loom
#

weve talked about scott pilgrim multiple times on the server

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im certain laura has read it

normal heron
blazing loom
#

no need to call out names here i wasnt really referring to that

normal heron
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Oh

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Sorry

#

I was just thinking back to the last discussion

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Wasn't trying to be rude to anyone

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Mb

#

But yeah @wispy whale you should really continue Saga, I hear it's just as good as before the hiatus

coral salmon
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Unless I'm remembering wrong

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Comics wise it was breast cancer

coral salmon
wispy whale
zenith robin
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I have only read the comics not seen the movie yet

wispy whale
#

I definitely plan to continue Saga but I'm terrible with following through with stuff unless it's a current hyperfixation 😔

wispy whale
zenith robin
#

I plan to watch it soon

normal heron
#

Anyways I wasn't trying to like call out anyone

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But yeah that movie is in my top 10 easy

#

Edgar Wright is a master

#

He can do no wrong

normal heron
zenith robin
normal heron
zenith robin
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no bc i haven't written enough for krbk month yet

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and i need to work on my izoc big bang work

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god i need to write a lot this week

normal heron
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Well you should watch it soon

zenith robin
#

i will

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maybe today

normal heron
#

It's one of the best movie's I've ever seen

zenith robin
#

okk

zenith robin
#

I watched scott pilgrim

normal heron
zenith robin
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It was awesome

blazing loom
#

@elfin gorge you should remind me at some point to read God Loves, Man Kills

#

like i couldnt right now but i absolutely want to

zenith robin
#

OMG GOD LOVES MAN KILLS

normal heron
blazing loom
#

disney streaming cant ignore their mature fans forever

#

we got a hint at this when they added the netflix shows

dry oyster
#

yay finally