Sonic

[atomic topaz]

It's so amazing

I have such a huge amount of respect for the people that have made these films

[subtle geode]

@flint folio verify this claim

[flint folio]

Finally a worthy opponent

Our battle will be legendary

[atomic topaz]

i will watch

[untold arch]

(Sonic Heroes/Riders Teams Rise Up)

[young dagger]

CHAD

[untold arch]

*Stacy

[young dagger]

what

[untold arch]

Female Chad 😤

[next tartan]

https://youtu.be/TpYGfV2yZQ8

@flint folio

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio https://youtu.be/RKKg_wteh1Y they included somethin from sonic unleashed

[flint folio]

unleashed night music is nothing but chill, also apotos night is legit the thumbnail, in sonic fonts

[flint folio]

will view

[atomic topaz]

yeah so i use relaxing game music compliations to study, but i noticed fairly recently that a BUNCH of the channels and videos i usually used were removed for copyright or something else

[flint folio]

a lot of channels ive viewed have had sonic unleashed music recently

[atomic topaz]

so this Kokowai Radio channel is a pretty good one

will probably not die

at least for awhile

[flint folio]

https://twitter.com/ssf1991/status/1539345938724044801?s=21&t=ffUL6W0U-zBJYcdXXnkVdA

SSF1991 (@SSF1991)

For once, there's a new Iizuka interview that's NOT about Sonic Frontiers, but Origins.

The only interesting thing of note...

https://t.co/kWiJmud4uz

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Twitter · Jun 21, 2022, 8:34 PM

Tiny note but worth knowing

[grizzled stone]

Ooh, that'd be interesting to see

A more current era friendly port of Heroes would be lovely

[next tartan]

If they did a collection port of heroes, SA2 battle and Adventure DX I think it would be very popular

[flint folio]

Or a port of fucking anything but the Genesis games

[atomic topaz]

advance and rush collection
fingers crossed

i would 100% buy them again

[atomic topaz]

Yeah that's the thing about colors ultimate
At least they brought over something

[flint folio]

Yeah, that game is ok now but I’m certain a 2nd go would be far better

[atomic topaz]

I just mean that them bringing over a game other than sonic Genesis definitely gives you a little bit of hope for other titles, right?

[flint folio]

Yeah, I still think the switch is a perfect port machine

Bring em over

[atomic topaz]

for sonic games yeah

for sure

Every game on the short list of good sonic games can run on switch

No problem

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio

[flint folio]

Too late

[untold arch]

https://tenor.com/view/very-nice-excellent-yes-meme-nod-gif-17397471

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio i know this just looks like a dumb edit but what really got me about this was the poorly photoshopped "knuckles from the sonic series"

[flint folio]

Lol

Finally, steam box art

[atomic topaz]

like seriously why did i laugh so hard at this

[flint folio]

The better “& knuckles”

[atomic topaz]

maybe its the fact that the sonic logo is w i d e

lol

[flint folio]

Featuring series from the knuckles the sonic franchise

[atomic topaz]

oh my god im dying

[flint folio]

Knuckles from the featuring the franchise sonic

I am having a stroke

[atomic topaz]

mee too

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio https://youtu.be/-fn-_eUgPcQ

i bet you already bought it tho

lmaoooooo

[flint folio]

No

It’s the old games, I don’t really ever play those

[atomic topaz]

What

I thought you said you were going to play that

[flint folio]

I don’t have it, seems like a good collection but I didn’t buy it for that kinda money

[flint folio]

This being said I would consider a physical release as it seems quite imbecile friendly (like me)

[young dagger]

@flint folio got the unleashed project to work with my goofy nvidia graphics card

might stream that at some point

[flint folio]

I got.. the first 2 levels

[young dagger]

bruh moment

[flint folio]

last IGN thing is a QnA
this month of frontiers has been weird lol

[flint folio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKB3WXRWTCM

15:50 for frontiers

ill tell you what, it LOOKS like a switch port, but it seems to run good

cyberspace shots

and this fucking thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbb7CnAGsvw

[atomic topaz]

that thumbnail gave me wii nostalgia

[flint folio]

fast

[atomic topaz]

like that model of sonic looks like the wii version of colors

[flint folio]

it's closest to the forces model just a bit blurrier

[atomic topaz]

ehh

[flint folio]

objectively

[atomic topaz]

true ig but it still made me think wii

[flint folio]

neat

[atomic topaz]

blurry sonic will always remind me of wii i suppose

although in reality it probably looks more like the switch version of forces

[flint folio]

it does, at least docked

forces on switch was kinda like this, ran ok but a bit blurry docked

[atomic topaz]

yeah

[flint folio]

oh cool

[atomic topaz]

damn thats sounds awesome

[flint folio]

https://twitter.com/psiwindftw/status/1541779204181729285

Cory (@psiwindftw)

Sonic isn't magnetized to the surfaces in the Switch footage compared to what we first saw

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 28, 2022, 1:43 PM

what is this video

what are these tricks

how many times will i buy this game

fuck sake

[atomic topaz]

youll buy it for every platform it comes out on
presumably

[flint folio]

probably 3 times

[atomic topaz]

no 500

[flint folio]

if i am given more consoles i'll buy it more times

[atomic topaz]

i will be excited to see

[flint folio]

https://twitter.com/tailschannel/status/1541789792022790145?s=21&t=IqdRHdkA5NtSfDVnKmR5Jw

Sonic the Hedgehog News & Updates · Tails' Channel (@TailsChannel)

Take a look at these new official renders of #Sonic and the new character "Sage" in #SonicFrontiers. #SonicNews

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Twitter · Jun 28, 2022, 2:25 PM

Sage

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio idk if i told you this but i made this my pfp on reddit

[flint folio]

Snoc

[atomic topaz]

its really nice art

its from mania iirc

[flint folio]

Yeah, ray is there lol

Mighty and ray

I think

[atomic topaz]

impressed you could tell from just the side of his head

[flint folio]

Well, it ain’t tails

[atomic topaz]

oh

well i feel like at least one person out there could make that mistake

[grizzled stone]

whoa, that new footage and stuff looks good

Interested in the trick stuff and the depth of sonic's physical attacks

could make for some fun fluff animated content to have him learning from, say, Knuckles and Shadow

[next tartan]

https://twitter.com/NintendoUK/status/1541783739646328833?t=9Vec2QqRx2fugjiKe89hhg&s=19

Nintendo UK (@NintendoUK)

Spin dash into a new open zone and discover the mysteries of Cyber Space in the blue blur's latest adventure!

Sonic Frontiers dashes on #NintendoSwitch this winter.

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▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 28, 2022, 2:01 PM

[flint folio]

Aodhan pal buddy friend if you scrolled up a tad you’d see me spamming content from this trailer

[next tartan]

But I don't wanna

I also didn't look

[flint folio]

But someone has to care with me

All skeet had to say was 2d snoc

[next tartan]

@atomic topaz Joe needs you rn

[flint folio]

Fucc u

Give shit

[next tartan]

I mean I care! But, 2022 is not that far away

[flint folio]

Poowillyhead

[next tartan]

I'm worried ab the game

Especially given how origins turned out lol

[flint folio]

I dunno, I’m less worried about this one

Plus, trailer looked really good actually

[next tartan]

I didn't watch

[flint folio]

Funny how the direct trailer was the best one

[next tartan]

Only saw release date

I'm hype

Still worried

[flint folio]

We’ve known the winter release date for ages

The trailer is actual switch gameplay too

It’s miles better than anything IGN has farted out, which is mega bizarre

[next tartan]

Ign sucks

I thought it was releasing early 23

[flint folio]

I suspect November 18th or so, since so many sonic games have released since then lol

Even the fuckin teaser, and title release trailers all said 2022

[next tartan]

I'm dumb tho

[flint folio]

I’d be worried if I based it off the early IGN stuff, but this Nintendo trailer is really good

Game is looking far better than it did, even at 720p lmao

[next tartan]

Mm

[flint folio]

My worries subsided really, I know there can be classic sega fuck ups but somehow I’d have some faith there will be less of that in the next mainline game rather than a more cashgrab rerelease

[next tartan]

Yea that's fair

Ig I'm a pessimist

[flint folio]

It’s valid to be one

I’m just not because I’m hyped for a long open world bluecunt game since it’s all I wanted

And thus I will leak positive energy for it

And will probably buy it like 3 times HAH

[atomic topaz]

Why

[flint folio]

I asked aodhan for “give-a-shitium” and he pinged you instead

[atomic topaz]

ill have you know a few hours ago I actually did watch the new trailer

so cyberspace is like a hub world?

[flint folio]

By this comment I would assume you hadn’t seen it

[atomic topaz]

OK yeah it is

[flint folio]

Cyberspace are action stages more akin to linear sonic levels and they are found throughout the overworld

[atomic topaz]

OH

[flint folio]

What fuckin hub world shit you gathering from that

[atomic topaz]

i love this idea

[flint folio]

You find gateways to cyberspace and you do fast stages and get keys to unlock stuff, probably a chaos emerald

The cyberspace areas can be, as we saw, old favourites or new distorted areas like the highway

[atomic topaz]

that gives me exactly what ive been saying i wanted from this game for months

[flint folio]

It was mentioned in the leak a year ago, but it’s finally confirmed

[atomic topaz]

Bro hell yeah

Honestly this actually makes me 100 times more excited for this

I'm sorry I was ignoring the conversation earlier

I get it now

[flint folio]

those who played the game did mention of the 3 they played 2 were 3d and 1 was 2.5d

the length isnt yet known

or how many there will be

also, can i mention i was very pleased to see the switch version

[atomic topaz]

Is it the 1st version you're going to buy

[flint folio]

2nd

probably

I'll likely get a ps4/5 copy first

[atomic topaz]

Same

[flint folio]

PC probably later because that will get enormous discounts eventually

and im not sure how itll run on PC, PS4 pro will run it beautifully im sure

switch will be a 2nd playthrough to enjoy it portably, because i am a sucker for "game you like but now on switch"

[atomic topaz]

I'm sure it'll run fine on my base PS4

[flint folio]

fella we have proof the switch is running it fine, i expect the ps4 will maybe have a hiccup here or there but otherwise very solid

[atomic topaz]

yee

I'm just saying I don't think it's gonna run bad on any consoles

[flint folio]

i'd only expect a hiccup because the ps4 will be playing it at a far higher quality than the switch, so it'll certainly push it

nah sonic games haven't been pushing technical limits for some time now, this is graphically more than forces but i doubt it'll be that taxing

[atomic topaz]

yep

hes a cartoon furry they're not gonna give him ghost of tsushima graphics

like blockbuster exclusive game graphics
fuckin rdr2 shit
nothin like that

[flint folio]

they could push the limits with high density foliage, large scale mountains, complex water and physics but they are kinda sitting middle ground

[atomic topaz]

I'm just saying this game isn't going to look ultra super high graphics card levels of realistic

[flint folio]

i reckon its fairly wise to keep the game on systems like the switch, you can push those limits later

nah, although tbf it wouldnt need to to be graphically intensive

[atomic topaz]

yeah

like i said, its a cartoon furry game

[flint folio]

but render his individual furr and then you are needing a 3090tiultramaxplus with a ryzen 12 64core icup with 1TB of ram

[atomic topaz]

lol

No thanks I want him to look like game sonic not movie sonic

[flint folio]

or perhaps a ps5 pro max gigaultra featuring dante from the devil may cry series

[atomic topaz]

[flint folio]

but instead you get a switch copy so i'll take that

i like switch copies

[atomic topaz]

How impressed are you that I have that as an emote

[flint folio]

not very, you're a gamer and +knuckles is a pretty common meme

[atomic topaz]

its just cool to me

[flint folio]

it is

[atomic topaz]

Didn't you buy the witcher 3 on switch

[flint folio]

i did

good port

[atomic topaz]

checks out

[flint folio]

put 50 hours in, it's great taking that on the go, its a super good switch port

very impressive

[atomic topaz]

I'm assuming they didn it the right way and considered 360 era hardware to make it run good

[flint folio]

it is lock to 30, and isn't a graphical masterclass, but on that console docked and handheld i was super super impressed

i'd put more props to who ported it rather than CDPR for considering the switch when the game released in 2015

so it wasnt even out

[atomic topaz]

I didn't specify cd project lol

[flint folio]

its hard to know who you're talking about with "they" since one team made the game, and another ported it

[atomic topaz]

I know how most of these big switch ports work lol

panic button did the doom ports iirc

[flint folio]

well when porting a game, i assume the company considers switch hardware

rather than 360 era or whatever

[atomic topaz]

I just mean they have something to go off

[flint folio]

they did, its called the nintendo switch

[atomic topaz]

since switch is most comparable to 360/PS3

ik, im just sayin

[flint folio]

idk why youd go off other consoles when you have the console right there

[atomic topaz]

im weird bro

[flint folio]

lol

[atomic topaz]

it just makes sense to me

[flint folio]

its just a meaningless point to make, like nobody is considering old consoles when porting to a switch, they consider the switch mate

especially when those consoles would work differently anyway so considering it based on graphical power probably wouldnt even be much help

[atomic topaz]

Look I say that because too many companies just try to port PS4 remasters of ps3/360 games to switch

[flint folio]

thats just incompetence and the decision to sacrifice frame rate for graphical fidelity

rather than what console to consider

its a choice to push the switch harder and make it run worse

or, and more likely, its poorly optimised

[flint folio]

https://twitter.com/ssf1991/status/1542226486710702080?s=21&t=THE6wi_vK0VybNy8C85PpA

SSF1991 (@SSF1991)

Someone managed to get a copy of the Sonic Frontiers Game Informer issue.

The Green Hill Cyberspace level is not only the game's first Cyberspace level, it's where Sonic goes to first after the wormhole incident. Afterwards he reaches the open-zone area.

https://t.co/mAa7dwphjx

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Twitter · Jun 29, 2022, 7:20 PM

Big the cat is in sonic frontiers

[atomic topaz]

YOOOOOOOOO

this is delightful news

[atomic topaz]

Sounds like this could be part generations

I bet they'll add a couple more stages from past games

[flint folio]

He teaches you fishing

[atomic topaz]

Yeah I saw that I went and read the Twitter comments

Makes sense

[flint folio]

Amazing stuff

[atomic topaz]

It says there's going to be a chemical plant stage

???

[grizzled stone]

SEGA stop reusing Green Hill and Chemical Plant challenge

Love to see Big the Cat there! I wonder if he'll be voiced by Jon St. John again

[flint folio]

I think it makes sense here

[atomic topaz]

WAIT

When was big voice by duke nukem

[grizzled stone]

Heroes

he also voices Omega

[atomic topaz]

holy fuck

I did not know this at all

[next tartan]

Pog!

[atomic topaz]

did you know that sonic

[flint folio]

i did not

[flint folio]

Sonic frontiers has a drop dash

And there may be quite a few cyberspace levels

[atomic topaz]

seems promising

[next tartan]

Drop dash?

[flint folio]

Like in sonic mania

[atomic topaz]

The drop dash is also in sonic origins

from what ive heard

[flint folio]

And forces

[atomic topaz]

oh thats intersting

I thought the drop dash debuted in mania

and forces came out the same year

[flint folio]

Mania released first

[atomic topaz]

Ohhhhh

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio https://youtu.be/AbYeTGofv7g Bruh

[flint folio]

Funi mem

[opaque quest]

From what ive played, generations and s3&k are the best ones

[grizzled stone]

I have really gotta play the HD version of Unleashed

[opaque quest]

Why didnt they slander generations

[grizzled stone]

hey I love the Adventure 1 version of It Doesn't Matter

[atomic topaz]

Tf are you talking about

gens is objectively good

[opaque quest]

I guess yeah, but id expect them to slander generations fans always complaining about planet wisp

[atomic topaz]

That's a little too specific

[opaque quest]

Yeah i guess

[grizzled stone]

I do love to complain about planet wisp tho

[opaque quest]

Dont we all

[grizzled stone]

I really can't stand it

It's like the slow half of Sonic 1, but not from the literal first game

[opaque quest]

I fucking hate planet wisp its too long

[grizzled stone]

Marble Zone and Labyrinth Zone can at least be excused with it being the first game, and them still working things out

Generations is so much later, and not even the first boost formula game

[opaque quest]

Yeah, even if it is painfull to go through

The worst thing about planet wisp is that its right after rooftop run, which is an amazing level

[grizzled stone]

and it's the last level in the game, so you get through it and all you have left is the final boss

[opaque quest]

IKR IT SUCKS, we went from the best level in the game to the worst level

[flint folio]

Yep

[grizzled stone]

Shame my PS3's currently not working

[flint folio]

i got a few spare copies

[opaque quest]

Ok, fuck sonic 1

[atomic topaz]

Joe is a superhero

His power is summoning copies of sonic unleashed and decapitating people with them

[flint folio]

well that took a turn

[atomic topaz]

Yeah it did but that was the plan

[atomic topaz]

Or maybe I could present a PG rated version
You summon copies of sonic unleashed and just wack people in the face with them
hilarious

slapstick

[flint folio]

or i give it to them to play

[atomic topaz]

thats the g rated version

[grizzled stone]

all at once

[atomic topaz]

what do you mean all at once

[grizzled stone]

the ability to summon copies of sonic unleashed has versatility

[atomic topaz]

yeah true

[grizzled stone]

Is it platform limited?

Could be handy to generate a few if you need spare cases

[atomic topaz]

sadly no sonic unleashed for nintendo DS

[grizzled stone]

it couldn't even run on the 360/PS3, imagine it on a DS heheheheh

[atomic topaz]

360, ps3, wii, and ps2

[grizzled stone]

Sweet, now you don't have to figure out what happens if you try to generate the java phone port

[atomic topaz]

bruh lol

[grizzled stone]

A Rush-style DS version of Unleashed would be fun, IDK what they'd do for the werehog tho

[atomic topaz]

honestly as much as i love and endlessly simp Sonic Rush, i wish there was a 3d sonic game on ds
because it would be interesting to see how that would turn out

[grizzled stone]

No analogue stick though, could be awkward controlling it

[atomic topaz]

true

[grizzled stone]

A 2.5D, Rivals-style thing could work

Actually, a Rush-style game that looks like Rivals would have been fun

If maybe a little indistinct given 2.5D has a bit of a problem with things not standing out enough

[atomic topaz]

wait lauren
have you played rivals?

[grizzled stone]

Unfortunately not

[atomic topaz]

oh

[grizzled stone]

I do have a PSP though, I should track it down

actually maybe I have played it?

I don't own a copy tho

[atomic topaz]

im considering trying it sometime

its on the vita shop too

[grizzled stone]

Oh hey I have one of those too

[atomic topaz]

same!

[grizzled stone]

They shut down the servers for the one vita game I own recently :(

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio https://youtu.be/m1ct4NcuAto

[flint folio]

Musc

[atomic topaz]

i found it

the big one

[atomic topaz]

you should know, the first song that plays is from unleashed

[flint folio]

Good to know

[atomic topaz]

you can say you dont care, its ok

i just love it when people compile stuff like this

[flint folio]

Not sure what else to mention about a 3 hour music compilation

[atomic topaz]

fair

[atomic topaz]

i guess i was just happy this one was 3 hours

dedication

[flint folio]

Well sure, I haven’t seen many of them

[atomic topaz]

this paired with the fact i just just 3 free months of Youtube Premium
is great

[flint folio]

Yeah I suppose that would be, I’ve never used those trials

[atomic topaz]

the main benefit im happy about is that i can turn my phone screen off while listening to music or videos

and it wont stop yknow

[atomic topaz]

power plant from sonic heroes is a banger yo

[flint folio]

I’ll be honest I don’t remember

[atomic topaz]

https://youtu.be/aaoGoO-qwV4

[grizzled stone]

yeeee

[atomic topaz]

ive been thinking of playing more sonic adventure 2 soon

and if i finish that maybe i'll go onto heroes

Adventure 2 really stood out to me last time I played it

It made me realize just how wonky SADX was

I definitely prefer sa2

[opaque quest]

Fuck spring yard, im dreading labrynth

[flint folio]

https://twitter.com/Sonic_Frontier/status/1545231168525697025

Sonic Frontiers (@Sonic_Frontier)

Well the hidden things has been leaked
I will delete this later

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Twitter · Jul 8, 2022, 2:19 AM

sonic koroks
bottom text

[atomic topaz]

whats a korok

[flint folio]

breath of the wild

[atomic topaz]

oh

[grizzled stone]

Oooh

babies

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio I have a question that I want to ask you right now

[flint folio]

Oh no

[atomic topaz]

Do you think dimps is the sole reason there isn't a new sonic rush game

[flint folio]

I don’t think it has anything to do with them, because it’s up to sega to hire people to do it

[atomic topaz]

Oh shit that's entirely true

[flint folio]

It’s also down to weak DS hardware not existing anymore so there is less need to do these kinds of adventures

Teams don’t innovate and make smaller projects like they used to for GBA/DS or even 3DS

Because the switch can just run the big next 3D adventure just at 30 frames

[atomic topaz]

That's a bit hard for me to swallow

[flint folio]

Sega just isn’t in that mindset at the moment

I’m sure someone will go back eventually, but don’t hold your breath for a DS game revival, because it’s a very different time for the character

You need to remember that was the era even fuckin BioWare made a sonic game

[atomic topaz]

Sucks to think that they would consider that stuff as just a fad
like movie tie in games

[flint folio]

Less of a fad, just less reason to do it

If people don’t have weak small portable systems then companies are less likely to make small graphically weak innovations

[atomic topaz]

OK I'll switch this a little bit
At this point I just want them to do something with 2d sonic that isn't Genesis

I want them to reinvent it

Please for the love of God do something new

[flint folio]

We’re a little while from that I think

[atomic topaz]

True but I still think it should happen

it deserves to

[flint folio]

Regardless of whether you’re right or not, it’s rather obvious you’d want more of a game you really like

[atomic topaz]

Tell me you wouldn't cream your trousers over a Sonic Unleashed sequel

[flint folio]

That’s my exact point

Lol

[atomic topaz]

Yeah

[flint folio]

Of course I want unleashed re released on every modern console and PC and I’ll buy every god damn one, but, of course I would

Same for rush

It’s fairly redundant that you’d want one, I just don’t see it anytime soon

[atomic topaz]

In this day and age 2D isn't left to the past
surprisingly

There's really plenty of room for that stuff

I don't need to explain why that is I know that you understand

But yeah

[flint folio]

There always will be

[atomic topaz]

If they made something like sonic rush now I'm sure it wouldn't sell only 5 copies

However the possibility may not be as strong after what I've been hearing about sonic origins

[flint folio]

It’s always down to sega to mess it up

[atomic topaz]

https://youtu.be/z7NUzlg5kIE

[flint folio]

06 do poorly because of incompetence and they kill a formula that was masterful, Now origins does poorly because of incompetence and it’ll put a stench on these kinds of games

[atomic topaz]

How do they not learn anything from sonic colors ultimate

[flint folio]

Or the 3 or 4 other messy entries

[atomic topaz]

or for that matter how do they not learn anything from the most monumental nose dive of last year
grand theft auto definitive

[flint folio]

Astonishing isn’t it

[atomic topaz]

Yeah

and they let this happen to the 500th port of a group of 30 year old games

i heard that some of that has to do with the fact that they had to change some of the music from sonic 3 that was actually done by Michael Jackson

A curse that will clearly never fade away

But apparently there's more than just that that went wrong

[flint folio]

Yeah they did

But also the game was buggy so that’s fun

[atomic topaz]

It's also annoying to see from the 10th port of Genesis sonic

[flint folio]

Yeah

Port better games 😤

[grizzled stone]

atop the annoying thing of pulling the previous versions from digital distribution

bleh

I'd like to see an advance collection rerelease like the Castlevania Advance Collection

[atomic topaz]

If they do that they should include the sonic rush games

Since they were all developed by dimps I think they should be packaged together

Especially because if you make a sonic rush collection that's only 2 games

and sonic colors DS technically doesn't count

[grizzled stone]

A compilation of the Advance Trilogy, the Rush duology and Colours DS would be cool

Though, porting the Rush-formula games to a non-DS system seems awkward

[atomic topaz]

There should be more re releases of weird alternate versions of games

I find that kind of stuff really fascinating

[grizzled stone]

like, do you add a fake bezel? Do you just shove the screens together?

[atomic topaz]

Trying to think of an example here

[grizzled stone]

Do you remake the game to essentially be a tate arcade cabinet screen?

actually a Sonic Rush arcade machine would be fun

[atomic topaz]

Oh yeah here's a random one
The Harry Potter games on console were Platform collectathon puzzle type games
But they made Harry Potter games on the gameboy color that were just straight up rpgs

[grizzled stone]

oh yeah

I remember playing philosopher's stone on GBA a bit

[atomic topaz]

They did that a lot with certain games back in the day and it was very bizarre

Made it so some games that had console and handheld versions are kind of different games entirely

[atomic topaz]

Honestly sonic just switched between both screens

I think they could just reformat it

[grizzled stone]

I mean more in the process of switching

[atomic topaz]

The bottom screen didn't have a specific function in Rush like a lot of DS game

[grizzled stone]

Like, playing with an emulator without a physical bezel in the way kinda shows a disconnect?

[atomic topaz]

I don't think changing it to a regular size screen would take too much away from it

[grizzled stone]

I would like to see them kinda squished into one screen, though it'd be extra work

[atomic topaz]

However in the case of Sonic Rush Adventure it gets a hell of a lot more complicated

[grizzled stone]

I haven't played that one myself

[atomic topaz]

It would be harder to translate over is what I'm getting at

They added a bunch of filler elements between levels

Things that I personally enjoy but yeah they are weird

you have to unlock these different ships
And you do a Mini game where you sail to the location of the stage

evertime

And the thing is

You entirely use the touch screen for all of it

There's 4 different ships and you use the touchscreen to control them

100%

So yeah I'm assuming Sega just thinks that's too complicated to even attempt to bring back

@grizzled stone

I love the rush levels themselves but everything else is really weird

[grizzled stone]

oh yeah, saw that in a review

seemed a bit strange to pad it but hey

[atomic topaz]

i don't find that aspect of the game to be bad but it makes the concept of porting it unnecessarily complicated

[grizzled stone]

wait what is the hard part about that/

[atomic topaz]

The touchscreen

Let's be honest the switch doesn't really utilize its touchscreen very well

theres very little games that use it

and trying to translate a game that used the stylus control to a console that only uses finger touch would be hit or miss

You could probably say that about any DS game that emphasizes touch controls

Honestly that's the main problem with nintendo's philosophy of innovation

It makes a huge chunk of their library very difficult to port over

Motion controls, touch screens
games that emphasize 3D

[grizzled stone]

ahh yeah

And then there's all the systems without touchscreen support

[atomic topaz]

exactly

Sega tends to port their games to PS4 and xbox alongside switch

[grizzled stone]

and even PC!

which I'm pretty grateful for

though I do wish they'd put the other Sonic games on here

[atomic topaz]

yeah thats awesome! but sonic rush adventure is doomed for that reason

The sad truth is, a lot of companies just don't want to put the work in to make a game work on different hardware

[grizzled stone]

I mean, look at GTA Trilogy hahaha

[flint folio]

The correct response to GTA trilogy

“Hahaha”

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio i had another bottomless pit moment

[flint folio]

Bumfart

[atomic topaz]

maybe this is your way of telling me you're busy lol

[flint folio]

That’s my reaction to you dying

What else did you want

[atomic topaz]

I was just assuming maybe you didn't have time to type more than one word

[flint folio]

If I was too busy to chat I’m way more likely to just tell you that

[flint folio]

He runs fast

News has dried a little. Iizuka is doing some bits, but mostly the recent taking points are “open zone” as a name and that’s about it

[flint folio]

IGN has done a "best sonic games" list, and it tells you how far we've come

10. Sonic Unleashed
11. Sonic Rush
12. Sonic 2
13. Sonic CD
14. Sonic 3+Knuckles
15. Sonic Colours
16. Sonic Advance
17. Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
18. Sonic Mania
19. Sonic Generations

[next tartan]

Not far at all

That's pretty much the same rating as always

[flint folio]

i dont really expect any mainstream publication to not just fling the genesis games and mania at the top and put generations somewhere low down

plus at least IGN likes unleashed now

idk if it matters much but the bloke doing the sonic IGN stuff seems to actually like the franchise, seems pretty insightful

the 10 minute frontiers video where he answered questions went pretty well

[atomic topaz]

you didn't put sonic advance 2 IGN prepare to lose subscriber

[flint folio]

pls eyjeennnn wher iz snoc jma

[atomic topaz]

WHERE IS RUSH ADVENTURE

[flint folio]

on a shelf probably

[atomic topaz]

you right

[flint folio]

snoc fast

[atomic topaz]

mario slow

fat bitch

[flint folio]

haha take that martin and lewis

[atomic topaz]

MARTIN AND LEWIS

thats amazing

[flint folio]

they are slo

[atomic topaz]

ye

[flint folio]

https://twitter.com/nintendolife/status/1547445796353843200

Nintendo Life (@nintendolife)

Takashi Iizuka Says He Already Knows What The Next Sonic Game Is https://t.co/2CpGMks4HV #Sonic #SonictheHedgehog #Sega #TakashiIizuka #NintendoSwitch

Twitter · Jul 14, 2022, 5:00 AM

finally

[atomic topaz]

i bet you would buy that unironically

[flint folio]

obviously

[ornate oyster]

damn imagine if sega was competent

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio what the fuck did i just watch https://youtu.be/VgduLXNLtdg

[flint folio]

Peter griffin in city escape

Obviously

[atomic topaz]

yeah

the way is played out was just bizarre lol

[flint folio]

I enjoyed the editing on so many running characters

[atomic topaz]

spongebob joins him then homer then 2019 movie joker

and then metal gear rising thrown in there

[flint folio]

For some reason

[atomic topaz]

I still don't understand why that game has been such a meme lately

I see a lot of people referenceing it

[flint folio]

I think it’s the buff suit man

And how over the top it can be

[atomic topaz]

Yeah I guess

I just never expected people to care about a game that came out 9 years ago right now

I'm the kind of person that would

but this was surprising

[grizzled stone]

oh god the red ring at about where the video starts gave me so much pain

[flint folio]

created another unleashed enjoyer yesterday

[flint folio]

https://twitter.com/tailschannel/status/1548067266574426112?s=21&t=F4YzdHtmNfoOB5e-YwAOzA

Sonic the Hedgehog News & Updates · Tails' Channel (@TailsChannel)

👀 Here's a look at some of the skills and moves you can unlock in #SonicFrontiers.

#SonicNews

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Twitter · Jul 15, 2022, 10:09 PM

Skill tre

[atomic topaz]

oh shit they're including the trick system from rush

fuckin love that

[flint folio]

I’m not really sure how involved it’ll be

But tricks have been in many games after that

[atomic topaz]

i mean it was really simple in the rush games

[flint folio]

Well it was very simple in every game it was in after

Plus we saw tricks in one of the trailers

[atomic topaz]

missed that lol

[flint folio]

It was in the first IGN one, tricks looked naff but I presume they’re a tad different now

[atomic topaz]

im just happy they're present

[flint folio]

Yeah

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio Ok so I don't know if this is gonna happen but I might play sonic colors on the wii today

[flint folio]

Wow, you might play a good sonic game

Very epic

I showed a mate unleashed yesterday, he loved it

Proud Joe

[atomic topaz]

i just was thinking about how i wanna play sonic colors ds

but i figured i should beat the main version first

[atomic topaz]

Also I think I actually really want to beat black knight

That game just has a really good feel honestly

[flint folio]

Cool, I’ve still not played it

[atomic topaz]

Yeah and it's never gonna get re released

Which is sad because I do think it's a game that could probably work without motion controls

Just do a little tweaking

But again that's probably not going to happen because Sega is lazy

[atomic topaz]

sorry but this box art cover will always be better than the remaster's @flint folio

[flint folio]

I will say I really like the background designs of the remaster

But it’s just the old cover but on a background and not a backdrop

[atomic topaz]

those are just generic geometrical shapes lol

[flint folio]

I like the gradient though

[atomic topaz]

yeah its aight

but theres all the background stuff on the wii cover

its more vibrant to me

yeah suck it remaster im playing this in 480p

@flint folio is the navigator helpful, like what does it even do

probly just gonna leave it off i think

[flint folio]

Leave it off

It’s like baby handholding navigator

[atomic topaz]

oh god thats lame

[flint folio]

It’s for babygamers

[atomic topaz]

my big tv makes this game look pretty good

even for the fact this is original hardware

[flint folio]

Yeah it’s a solid looking game

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio

[flint folio]

That is indeed you

[atomic topaz]

funny thing happened
it told me i couldnt use that name

[flint folio]

That is rather funny, I wonder why lol

[atomic topaz]

It said something like "you cant use this name to connect to nintendo wifi connection"

im like bitch that doesnt exist anymore

silly wii

[flint folio]

Lol

[atomic topaz]

sweet mountain is very fun

love the music too

[flint folio]

Yeah that has a few good stages

Starlight carnival has a really pretty rainbow road too

[atomic topaz]

this one sucks dick tho

act 6

with all the yellow cubes

fuck finally

I think it was just the fact that those dickheads have guns now

[flint folio]

Lol, I don’t remember much from that

[atomic topaz]

anyways got to starlight

This has gotta be one of the most visually satisfying things I have ever seen in my entire life

[flint folio]

Absolutely, also the remix version is actually good

Like the music

[atomic topaz]

It kind of actually makes me want to try the remaster because It's so colorful and I imagine it would look even more stunning with a better resolution

[flint folio]

I got 2 copies, come try them

Shouldn’t be buggy anymore

[atomic topaz]

lol

[flint folio]

You can try 60fps unleashed while you’re here

[atomic topaz]

I'll probably go for PS4 if I ever do

[flint folio]

That is a solid 60 frames so it’s a perfect way to play

I did 144fps on PC and 30fps on switch lol

[atomic topaz]

I'm just happy I'm finally trying to actually beat the game

[flint folio]

It’s not exactly long

When SCU came out I finished it that day

[atomic topaz]

Yeah I know

I guess it just depends how much time I want to spend on it today

[flint folio]

It’s like what, 4 hours long?

[atomic topaz]

yeah i think

[atomic topaz]

you know if the wii version has autosave?

like after you finish a stage

[flint folio]

Probably?

[atomic topaz]

hmm

[flint folio]

Like you’ll know as an icon will appear

[atomic topaz]

Not seeing much of an option to save otherwise

[flint folio]

Should do though

[atomic topaz]

So I guess probably yeah

@flint folio https://youtu.be/V4Rkjyqq5XI

watched this yesterday

Yeah he does say the thing about sonic adventure

"someday"

[flint folio]

Yeah he does, it’s a fine video but I found the host quite annoying

[atomic topaz]

I guess kind of but you could tell lizuka was kinda having a good time

[flint folio]

Yeah he had his fun

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio sonic colors moment

im playin rn

[flint folio]

WOOOOOOOOO

A good sonic game

The most 2d game I like

[atomic topaz]

you ever actually press the try again button when you finish a stage?

[flint folio]

Actually funny thing about that

[atomic topaz]

that just happened to me on the wii version here

Cause if you hit try again then it acts like you didn't finish the stage

If I go back to the map I have to do it again

[flint folio]

I can’t remember specifics but I don’t think it saves so it’s useless to press that if you are going for the medals

Only works if you want S ranks

And even funnier thing

[atomic topaz]

Yeah I didn't want to do that anyway

[flint folio]

The starlight boss was pretty hard to S rank for me on SCU and I restarted by accident after S ranking

Totally stupid it doesn’t save even after pressing restart, since I did it

Otherwise it would be great for completion

[atomic topaz]

i very much enjoyed the starlight carnival boss

[flint folio]

There’s like 2 of each boss

I think

[atomic topaz]

hmm

[atomic topaz]

so like which of these three should i do first

I didn't know it was going to unlock all 3 of them

[flint folio]

Just in order as you see them

[atomic topaz]

Now I feel a bit overwhelmed by choice

[flint folio]

Tropical resort - sweet mountain - starlight - planet wisp - aquarium park - asteroid coaster

There is no right or wrong choice but I always go in that order

[atomic topaz]

ohh

planet wisp is the one on top

right

It's right next to starlight so makes sense to start there

ty

[flint folio]

Yeah just go in that arch order

[atomic topaz]

awesome

Planet wisp is the one that's in gens

That will be fun

I haven't got to that part in gens yet so I can play the original version first

thats cool

[flint folio]

The first level is really great I think

[atomic topaz]

of planet wisp?

nice

I know I've played part of starlight carnival before so I'm at the point now where all the stages are new to me

[flint folio]

Nice

I think aquarium was my least favourite area but I did like starlight the most

Asteroid coaster has some good levels

[atomic topaz]

i just fucked up and died but yeah i fuckin love it

[flint folio]

Nice

Music is good too

[atomic topaz]

absolutely

[flint folio]

Better on the OG game

[atomic topaz]

How'd they fuck up the music in the remaster

[flint folio]

Just isn’t quite as good

You can toggle that anyway now I think

They changed the vibe with the remix

[atomic topaz]

The original is really peaceful and cool

But for some reason I feel like this stage would work better with more bad-ass and groovy sounding music

[flint folio]

It is, it fits the vibe of the grasslands before the factory

[atomic topaz]

yeah

[flint folio]

The remix went more high octane EDMish

[atomic topaz]

hmm

I'd be interested to hear it but yeah that doesn't sound like something that could top the og

[grizzled stone]

wait is metal knuckles in speed sim?

[atomic topaz]

thats a thing?

metal knuckles i mean

[grizzled stone]

yeah

sonic R

[atomic topaz]

oh forgot about that

very cool

@flint folio

[flint folio]

Oh cool

I haven’t played speed sim in ages, shadow won the popular vote to be added before knuckles was even added and he still isn’t in it

[grizzled stone]

Oh huh

I mean, I am definitely in the shadow camp

Havn't played it in ages

just looked up metal knuckles and saw youtube videos mentioning metal knuckles in speed sim

though IDK whether that's just completely fake

[atomic topaz]

hey lauren idk if anyone has said this but your pfp reminds me a bit of Scarlet Witch

in a cool way tho

[grizzled stone]

ooh neat

okay it looks to be clickbait

[atomic topaz]

oh lol

[flint folio]

Yeah uh I haven’t heard of that happening either

[grizzled stone]

tbh I should've expected that?

Like, a Sonic R exclusive character

[atomic topaz]

sonic r remaster when

[grizzled stone]

Would be neat to have a CTR Nitro-Fuelled kinda thing where it remasters one game while adding stuff from another

but there isn't really another game to add to R is there

Like, Rivals makes sense, but it's a pretty vastly different format

At least, 2.5D/3D

[flint folio]

Make another sonic R

That game was great

[grizzled stone]

yeee

Having fun with that metal sonic race event

[grizzled stone]

Gotta say, props to speed sim for nailling the homing attack better than Heroes or SA1 IMO

[grizzled stone]

heheheh

jackpot

[atomic topaz]

started aquarium park on sonic colors yesterday

yeah ive been moving at a slow pace

i know the game is short lol

but aquarium is decent so far

[flint folio]

its a pain in the arse to collect red rings for

[atomic topaz]

i love the japan inspired scenery though

[flint folio]

a level can look nice and still be shit to play

[atomic topaz]

yeah

just saying i admire it

[flint folio]

i can't really ever like a water level, idk why they appear so often lol

[atomic topaz]

planet wisp is great but look-wise its just a bunch of industrial equipment

[flint folio]

you know why that is though

[atomic topaz]

i do, yes

[flint folio]

so it is a cool level idea

[atomic topaz]

it is

[flint folio]

if anything i'm kinda sad there wasnt more 3D in most of these areas, the industrial parts of planet wisp would make terrific 3d levels

sliding up and down huge machinery rather than slowly climbing up them

[atomic topaz]

thats a really good point

[flint folio]

colours had plenty of great areas but just my inane 3d love just makes me think its missed opportunities

the start of planet wisp act 1 could have been so much more

[atomic topaz]

its just the fact that many of the 3d sections are just the opening to a level and rarely show up in the middle of levels

and the 2d itself feels kinda clunky imo

[flint folio]

its blocky platforming, always has been

[atomic topaz]

it doesnt have quite the same punch or sense of momentum as something like sonic rush

or probably the ds version of colors

it nails the speed in 2d sometimes but yeah its kinda rough around the edges when it comes to platforming

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio whats that level after aqurium again?

[flint folio]

there is only one

[atomic topaz]

roller coaster thing

is that fun?

[flint folio]

decent

[atomic topaz]

I think I'm liking aquarium park more than you

generally

[flint folio]

It’s fine, just red rings were annoying to find

[flint folio]

https://twitter.com/sonic_frontier/status/1549725338699284480?s=21&t=LRwPyXqkrySZx95SDRmTYg

Sonic Frontiers (@Sonic_Frontier)

Update on the steamDB page for Frontiers :

• release date changed again but this time to December 3rd ( probably a placeholder too )
• Denuvo got removed ?

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Twitter · Jul 20, 2022, 11:58 AM

Good news for PC users, Frontiers doesn’t seem to have DRM anymore

And the release date of December 3rd could be a placeholder

[grizzled stone]

yooo

good to see denuvo getting removed, shouldn't have been there to begin with but hey

[flint folio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pIIq-04v2g

i expected this to be so much worse than it was

I'm appreciative the outlook on boost sonic is actually quite positive for the most part

[atomic topaz]

so garrolous64 is a youtuber i discovered sometime in the past year i think
i like him because he talks about like basically every sonic game

tho he is a bit too opinionated sometimes

[flint folio]

cool
i think ive seen plenty of that sort of thing though lol

idk the content i consume is more positive than opinionated

[atomic topaz]

but i appreciate his outlook
he gives alot of love to sonic's handheld titles

[flint folio]

Yeah I know the type

[atomic topaz]

wait is he not counting sonic rush

Crime

[flint folio]

I mean, it’s not really got much In common with the boost era other than a boost button

All the other games have a lot in common

[atomic topaz]

its the game that introduced it ffs

[flint folio]

My point still stands

[atomic topaz]

idc if it isnt 3d

[flint folio]

I know you don’t, because you like it so much

There’s an entirely separate rush and rush adventure video if you are so inclined

[atomic topaz]

garoulous has those too

[flint folio]

Alright

[atomic topaz]

i will watch tho

i like hearing different takes

[flint folio]

It’s just a pretty good overview of a thing I watched just yesterday

[atomic topaz]

whats the thing you watched yesterday

[flint folio]

The thing I shared

[atomic topaz]

ah

[flint folio]

It was uploaded yesterday

[atomic topaz]

got another thing to say btw

the aquarium park boss

[flint folio]

Ew

[atomic topaz]

i got very confused

have barely finished it yet

[flint folio]

Mate killing it quickly is a pain

Chasing after it with the drill wisp

[atomic topaz]

yeah

i may need to look at it more carefully

[flint folio]

You can do it the more boring way, without a drill

It’s less fucky

[atomic topaz]

i think what happened was that i wasnt even sure what i was supposed to be chasing with the drill

i'll figure it out later

[flint folio]

I just ended up running round in circles after the boss lol

[grizzled stone]

oh hey antdude

Not someone I watch frequently but I'm vaguely familiar, largely due to his collaborations with somecallmejohnny

[atomic topaz]

i like austin eruption

[grizzled stone]

heheheh wheeeee

hmmmm

[flint folio]

Nice

Wall

[atomic topaz]

lol