i mean, that means nothing
#Sonic
flint folio
frontiers is a ballsy as hell game for sonic and they're still kinda not quite going balls deep
so its a very sega thing to do, to kinda half ass something amazing
atomic topaz
so its a very sega thing to do, to kinda half ass something amazing
this is why they lost against nintendo
atomic topaz
also remember how overly confident they were back then
in marketing
completely ROASTING the super nintendo whenever they got the chance
flint folio
they had the right to be, they were doing well
and both companies did it, just shat on the other
atomic topaz
https://twitter.com/gameapologist/status/1533954547940356096?s=21&t=TpXfzkLQtjgX...
That animation looks unfinished
flint folio
That is a still image skeet
atomic topaz
in the thumbnail
flint folio
That might be why
flint folio
The funny thing is you can make that point but it doesn’t look so in the thumbnail lol
atomic topaz
It still looks off to me
flint folio
The grinding is from forces
flint folio
Is this game using unreal engine??
I’d assume hedgehog engine 2?
atomic topaz
You'd think maybe they want to do something original
visual galleon
Hedgehog engine 2?
atomic topaz
People didn't like forces
visual galleon
Didn’t know it had a new version
flint folio
Forces was made on that mate
visual galleon
Maybe for the ps5 / new xbox
flint folio
People didn't like forces
Skeet it’s rather ridiculous to say that people didn’t like sonic forces so you should change the railgrinding animation
visual galleon
I imagine the new engine can handle more shading effects without compromising the gpu
atomic topaz
Skeet it’s rather ridiculous to say that people didn’t like sonic forces so you ...
oh
fair
flint folio
I imagine the new engine can handle more shading effects without compromising th...
The hedgehog engine 2 was made before sonic forces, it’s the reason the game is so short and not that sweet
atomic topaz
Sorry I'm in pain
and tired
flint folio
fair
As much as I agree originality and new animations is very cool, I think it’s nitpicky here, there’s a lot of new animations that are cool
Plenty of other games reused stuff all the time, it’s wasted resources to redo it
Like the bridge sonic runs over in the frontiers trailer and jumps over an enemy is right from the death egg, but it doesn’t matter too much
Of course you can overdo this, just not here in my humble opinion
next tartan
Watched the trailer from a few days ago
I'm not fond of the slow speed he walks at by default, I'm aware it's open world and thus has to be slower than how sonic rly is but my god I'm sure even botw default movement is faster
It'd be nice if they had a mechanic to instantly make you reach a certain speed tbh!
Like, a decent speed, like horse speed in botw or something
flint folio
It'd be nice if they had a mechanic to instantly make you reach a certain speed ...
like a boost? lol
i think one of my takeaways is how the boost will work, if i can hold it down or if it can be upgraded
i see what you mean with the slow movement but i suppose my only though is if sonic has a skill tree, speed has to be on it a LOT
also idk if anyone shares this but i am more fussed on if simply moving is satisfying
like if the sound design while running is nice or i can look around as he jogs through the world
next tartan
Kind ofv
But not one that runs out
A permanent "tap this to go fast instantly" button that does not need to be re filled
Like unlimited boost ig
flint folio
i do agree, but i also am not ruling out it already exists
because the gameplay was not totally clear on it,
sometimes they tapped boost, other times they held it
and with out lack of HUD i have no idea if it ever runs out
also i saw this fucking galaxy brain theory that the grindrails look out of place because as you complete puzzles they complete a circuit which is why some of them go nowhere
and frankly that is such enormous brain shit its probably not true
next tartan
sometimes they tapped boost, other times they held it
and with out lack of HUD i...
It'll definitely be limited lol, but you can probs collect rings in the open world
It kinda sucks that in a massive open world game the movement seems so rigid and slow
flint folio
i think there is an asterisk next to that, because we have no real knowledge outside of educated guessing
i mean lost works run wasnt limited, so its possible
seems to have all sorts of collectibles, so to me rings fuel boost or its infinite in the open world, i presume we'll find out at some point
next tartan
I'd assume rings fuel it, you can expand it with collectable resources. Like the stamina bar in BOTW
But god knows!
flint folio
i suppose either is plausible but there are so many collectibles that it could be anything lol
we may even find out
next tartan
Mhm
Hopefully
I kinda think a delay might help, honestly, bc sega has a tendency to rush shit out. It seems to not be the case here! But you never know with sega tbf
flint folio
i dunno really, even if you delayed it would they even know what to spend their time on? lol
from interviews and stuff it seems like this game isnt the case, but some of the bits in the trailer says otherwise
its quite confusing
next tartan
Sonic team will swear left right and centre that their games are well made and polished but then they come out and it's just not the case at all lol
The trailer looks like a cheap fan made game or like, an unfinished PS3 open world game
It doesn't seem like the movement flows either. It's so jerky and stuff, maybe that's just bc of the person showcasing it?
flint folio
It just seems very recently between these last two games that sega has really hyped up their quality control and dedication to this title specifically
but the trailers are very odd, like I don’t fully understand their goal like this, it would be fine if there was a proper fill trailer, then a month of this?
Whoever was playing didn’t seem great at the game either, which is weird, as it’s from sega
But like.. I like it, so there’s that I guess lol. I’m still very excited to learn more
flint folio
Don’t worry lads, sonic mobile games are getting announcements
atomic topaz
Don’t worry lads, sonic mobile games are getting announcements
wuuuuut
atomic topaz
I can’t wait to hear about sonic dash
is it rumoured that it will be talked about today ?
or are you just speculating
graceful egret
atomic topaz
I have taught you well
am i an honorary bri'ish yet
flint folio
I don’t know if I can grant you that, and I’m sure you’d still be totally lost here lol
atomic topaz
fair assumption
flint folio
atomic topaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa2tChGqQiI
wait i thought it was later today not right now
flint folio
9am eastern, 12pm whoever thefuck
atomic topaz
flint folio
you fuckin donkey
well i'll be screaming
more people are in the IGN stream than the official sonic stream
for anyone present
otherwise here for when its done
yoo
shadow in prime
atomic topaz
@flint folio Let me know if there's a 2D sonic announcement
if there isnt
tell me that too
flint folio
frontiers prologue featuring knuckles coming soon
flint folio
exciting shit
skill tree, cyberspace confirmed, and fairly positive outlooks
showing none of them
chaos emeralds are unlocked with completing cyberspace levels and completing objectives in them
also there are racing objectives
@atomic topaz outside of the froniters prologue, nothing we didnt expect to feature featured
and it was 12 minutes
flint folio
chaos emeralds are unlocked with completing cyberspace levels and completing obj...
iizuka said the game is called "open zone" as its design doesnt cover the same bases as zelda or other AAA titles, it os a 3d action game and is designed like that, not like an adventure RPG
the puzzles in the world are how you unlock bits of your map
apparently there is a parry of some kind
atomic topaz
and it was 12 minutes
WACK
atomic topaz
so just new frontiers
which they were already showing the past 5 days
flint folio
and the things i mentioned
showing speed sim they played sonic unleashed music and i nearly had a heart attack
atomic topaz
well i meant in terms of actual sonic games
flint folio
origins
atomic topaz
not collections
flint folio
you're narrowing your own scope too much here
there's no real reason to bring out a 3rd game weeks from origins, and 5 months before frontiers
it'd ruin origins marketing and frontiers' month showcase
fuckin sonic dash/forces mobile is getting mephilles and super shadow
and blaze as a knight
so that was actually pretty cool
atomic topaz
and blaze as a knight
BLACK KNIGHT REFERENCE??????????????
damn they're actually acknowledging that game
flint folio
they've done it twice already how are you more surprosed for that than the other two
they acknowledge fuckin 06 of all things
this is just a snippet of a thing, not sure why it says official trailer
also this thing which is a razer xbox controller+charger
grizzled stone
Oh hey, glad to see the lightspeed dash return to being a core move
Or at least I think it is?
Mentioning it in that hands on preview like that makes me think it's either a natural moveset thing or unlockable
flint folio
i assume early unlockable?
grizzled stone
but either way, sounds like it'll be less contextual than, say, Generations
which I like, growing up with Unleashed and Heroes
flint folio
i was pleased to hear the guy was fairly optimistic and positive about the games scope and outlook
i suppose we may get pokemon legends type reception in "its their first time" or something
which i can understand to an extent, but i hope they run with the style, as you could build off of it enormously
grizzled stone
Yeah, really hope they do
Though I wouldn't say it's too in Sonic Team's repertoire to really build on things?
flint folio
this being said as much as id love open world sonic RPGs to exist forever, other stuff should continue to exist
sonic team has probably changed totally about 8 times so who knows
iizuka has said he would like frontiers to define a new style for the character
grizzled stone
Ooooh
flint folio
Building grinding and loops into the world rather than kinda cyber-existing is a better idea
but yeah, seems cool - i hope it continues and the game develops well
brethren
grizzled stone
ayy sir percival
though lately all I've been playing Dash for (incidentally using Blaze) is getting the movie event characters then waiting a week for the event to end XD
currently it's movie knuckles
already got movie sonic and longclaw
it's really funny to see longclaw roll
flint folio
see i play forces mobile and not dash lol
maybe i should start up dash too
can i be offline for that?
grizzled stone
I think so
flint folio
ill have a look
grizzled stone
Time to cease chuckling
flint folio
atomic topaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUHjG88fJUw
I know it's a petty thought but no Jason cries
also
for some reason this video decided Joseph Gordon Levitt and Daniel Craig are good choices
Not quite sure where that comes from
Actually Daniel Craig maybe
His version of James bond is the most dark and brooding version we've ever had
flint folio
jason isnt returning for shadow, i would guarantee it
atomic topaz
Didn't he say that he only viewed working on sonic as a paycheck
flint folio
i have no idea
atomic topaz
@next tartan Ps plus free games are added today so im bouta install Nickelodean smash bros
its only gonna take 45 minutes
Sweet 😎
atomic topaz
I am a little disappointed with this roster
However I laughed really hard at the fact that Garfield is in this game
visual galleon
@atomic topaz voice acting dlc will come soon
Is a free one iirc
Instead of grunts we will get some quotes
atomic topaz
<@378603106319204352> voice acting dlc will come soon
its already added
atomic topaz
garfield was just talking in the match i played
visual galleon
No Tara strong?
atomic topaz
This was exciting for me because I definitely did watch a good amount of Nickelodeon as a kid
just surprisingly didn't watch as much spongebob as I watched other shows on that network
Fairly Oddparents was probably the one i watched the most
in terms of animation
I watched a lot of iCarly but I'm not sure how they could add live action characters to a game like this
atomic topaz
He’s a freaking Nicktoon!
so yeah its pretty appaling to not see the one character that was the reason i was hyped for this game
The roster is kind of set up like smash Bros based on how some franchises depending on how big they are have more than one character represented
For that they have spongebob avatar and TMNT with two or more characters
grizzled stone
daniel craig huh
grizzled stone
I watched a lot of iCarly but I'm not sure how they could add live action charac...
Don't they have Arya Stark?
atomic topaz
I can't keep track XD
Call me back in 5 years and we'll see how many smash clones have come out
grizzled stone
I wanna say it'll be four
atomic topaz
I feel like now that smash is actually over a bunch of other people are just trying to follow in its footsteps
grizzled stone
Yeah, seems like it was a good time to launch one when the first did
Plus, plenty of platforms Nintendo haven't touched
atomic topaz
I feel like Nickelodeon was like fuck it they know that it's a smash clone so let's not hide it at all
grizzled stone
Speaking of smash clones, Brawlhalla disappoints me
grizzled stone
It's good, I've played a bunch, I love the art style and would absolutely crush HARD on Nix, but they just won't stop with annoying monetisation and tie-ins
atomic topaz
Everyone knows the best smash clone is Super Smash Flash 2
grizzled stone
naruto 4 life
atomic topaz
Yeah Naruto in smash
You don't get that any worlds
grizzled stone
Kinda diluting the draw of a platform fighter with a unique cast if you're shoving WWE, Kung Fu Panda, Rayman, TMNT, Steven Universe, Adventure Time and more into it
atomic topaz
Smash Flash 2 is the sole reason why I think anyone asking for goku in smash is a fucking idiot
Well also that hes not a game character but
Yeah
atomic topaz
Kinda diluting the draw of a platform fighter with a unique cast if you're shovi...
Weren't most of those just skins
I'm pretty sure Rayman is the only one with a unique move set
grizzled stone
Yeah, they're skins with the exception of Rayman
Which, it's good that we don't have to learn that many extra movesets haha
atomic topaz
It would be cool if Lara Croft had her own unique set though
atomic topaz
Yeah I remember hearing about her being added in back then and I thought she was an actual unique character
grizzled stone
honestly I just don't care for tie ins in this game specifically
atomic topaz
i know what you mean
It's not unique like when Soul Calibur does it
grizzled stone
Besides being smash but on PC, the draw for me was also the cast of unique characters with interesting lore that have interactions with others
Means you don't have to be a fan of existing franchises to feel like you can enjoy the cast
atomic topaz
Sidenote I bought soul calibur 5 today and I actually really enjoy it
grizzled stone
Oooh nice!
atomic topaz
I hear that game often considered to be the black sheep of the series
But I don't get the hate
It's also very graphically impressive
It looks better than soul calibur 4 which is surprising to me
grizzled stone
I haven't much knowledge of Soul Calibur but I can't help but think there's probably a fair amount of people who complain about anything that isn't 2
Oh hey didn't 4 have Darth Vader?
atomic topaz
3 and 4 are really good
grizzled stone
speaking of tie ins XD
atomic topaz
and yes it did!!
I've been playing multiple entries recently and 4 is probably my favorite
grizzled stone
Reminds me of how THPS3 had Darth Maul, and THPS4 had Jango Fett
atomic topaz
And it's not really because of the star wars cross marketing, surprisingly
SC4 is just a really diverse and well balanced fighting game
it does have some clone characters though
But they're listed under bonus characters so it's fine
atomic topaz
Reminds me of how THPS3 had Darth Maul, and THPS4 had Jango Fett
yes lol
None of that can happen today which is so sad
I remember talking to AJ about the Tony Hawk remake leading up to release, and hoping they would add something surprising as an unlockable in the place of spiderman
They could have just put Nathan Drake in there or something
But they just went with Jack black in a cop outfit
grizzled stone
There is the special edition Ripper character
a mascot for either Santa Cruz or Powell-Peralta
but yeah, not much in the way of unlockable skaters :(
Really surprised Crash isn't available
There are a few pieces of Crash-themed gear
flint folio
sonic
next tartan
<@346124902245335040> Ps plus free games are added today so im bouta install Nic...
We should play it together
atomic topaz
We should play it together
fuck yes homie
it feels so janky but i like chillin on games with you
flint folio
Indeed
Still playing chronicles
Met shadow, definitely gonna sit on my team
When he stops fucking off
atomic topaz
is shadow cool in that game
flint folio
I think so
atomic topaz
Nice
flint folio
Though I’ve not seen much of him yet and his effect on the game I don’t remember
But it’s cool he’s here
atomic topaz
Though I’ve not seen much of him yet and his effect on the game I don’t remember
wait
here's an important question
is there voice acting
flint folio
Sadly not
flint folio
But I mean Sonic Rush didn’t have much, and this is a very dialogue heavy game, I don’t think it’d been great quality
I reckon frontiers will be the closest we get for a while
But a more traditional one would be awesome, even if it’s turn based again
atomic topaz
But I mean Sonic Rush didn’t have much, and this is a very dialogue heavy game, ...
What you don't think Jason Griffith was a talented character actor
flint folio
What I don’t think is that the DS would have brought high enough quality audio for a story heavy game like this, based on how muffled sonic rush sounded lol
Also this was BioWare and not sega/sonic team, so I assume that also played a part
atomic topaz
All the dialogue in Bioware's other games had voice acting though
but i see your point
flint folio
I assume outsourcing sonic and not being stuff BioWare has rights to would have played a part on how far they went
It’s worth asking what was the last non sonic team sonic game to have voice acting
I think it’s not here because of the hardware and it was cheaper, probably
What amuses me is this game has idle animations, and forces doesn’t
Thought it was funny
young dagger
@flint folio probably gonna stream sonic generations later tonight if your up to join
flint folio
If I’m not busy I will pop in, depends when really
young dagger
im on summer break so honestly just lmk
flint folio
Me too technically, so like 6 or so hours from now is the best for me lol
Usually when anyone I’m with fucks off
young dagger
aight
next tartan
it feels so janky but i like chillin on games with you
I love playin with you too plus it's pretty fun once you get into it
atomic topaz
I love playin with you too plus it's pretty fun once you get into it
I'll tell you right now the main thing that pissed me off is that it has a dedicated jump button
I hate that in fighting games
specifically smash type games
you dont need it if its fuckin 2d
just pressing up makes sense
atomic topaz
its just rather annoying to me
atomic topaz
i have played smash for like 10 years
next tartan
Graphics are terrible too
next tartan
You just need to get used to it bestie
atomic topaz
maybe you can help me with that
atomic topaz
Would you be able to do like 5 o'clock my time tomorrow
I'll be out until around then
Maybe 4 actually
next tartan
Yea I think so lemme check timezones
atomic topaz
I think if we do that time it'll be like 10pm for you
Which isn't too bad
If you just want to do like one hour that's fine
atomic topaz
Yeah I have class in the morning tomorrow and a meeting with my tutor at 2pm
next tartan
Yea no worries just hmu when you're free
atomic topaz
But I do not work so the afternoon will be fine for that
atomic topaz
I guess just try not to fall asleep when I'm trying to ping ya idk lol
flint folio
Piss plus is pretty nice this month
next tartan
Yea I saw I'm a platinum it
next tartan
I guess just try not to fall asleep when I'm trying to ping ya idk lol
Will do m y best
atomic topaz
@flint folio I got to the part in the video where Scott bitches about sonic colors ultimate
damn its fun lol
flint folio
I finished it this morning actually
Scott’s sonic opinions seem alright, I mean he includes unleashed content a lot too in previous videos
atomic topaz
He really does have a point
sega shouldn't have advertised this as "ultimate"
flint folio
I mean, if you ask me both of you put more meaning behind the title than I think anyone intended
It seems a nitpick to me
atomic topaz
It does add meaning to people being disappointed though I think
If it was just called colors remastered it wouldn't be that big of a problem
flint folio
I did not see anyone care about the name at all until this video, so I doubt it
atomic topaz
lol
flint folio
I like how the name sounds, just the only thing was it wasn’t a very good remaster lol
flint folio
im on summer break so honestly just lmk
this is me doing that
young dagger
nice nice
young dagger
@flint folio am in vc
flint folio
hjiuyblsadfhyuilsdafghyuilrgshyu
young dagger
yeah
flint folio
@atomic topaz thought i'd let you know
flint folio
work faster
atomic topaz
work faster
If I get home in an hour you think you'll still be there?
flint folio
maybe?
atomic topaz
@flint folio I'm on my way home now I'll join vc if you're still there in 30 minutes
ornate oyster
@atomic topazyo im about to get home
atomic topaz
sonic 06
atomic topaz
what a pog video game isnt that right gamers
sonic boom rise of lyric
flint folio
that sure is one of the games of all time
atomic topaz
that sure is one of the games of all time
joe sure is one of the brits of all time
flint folio
yes
flint folio
Gigavirgin Lock Screen engaged
grizzled stone
ooh pretty
flint folio
give frontiers a photo mode and then i dont care if its any good
flint folio
1:46 was my record for ages
the area where you grind over a bridge i mostly jumped over
young dagger
cuz i just got 1:46.63 and i thought you got smth like that
cope about the legacy sonic but yk
sorry 46.62 but same thing at the end of the time
young dagger
pog gaming
the trick mastery skill makes everything about the trick system so much better
flint folio
i have no idea what perks i have on
atomic topaz
Gigavirgin Lock Screen engaged
as if gigavirgin wasnt already on your birth certificate
flint folio
its the first line of my cv (resume)
flint folio
noted
flint folio
big man iizuka got shit to say
He legit finished this interview saying he hopes he can use the work done on frontiers to make another adventure game sometime
fuckin hell
@atomic topaz what a nuts way to end an interview
before this he said "i haven't thought about my next game yet"
i just thought this was a small iizuka interview for people like me to enjoy just for extra insight but no, there was that
atomic topaz
He legit finished this interview saying he hopes he can use the work done on fro...
bUt WhAt AboUt sOnIc RuSh
flint folio
Well I should have expected that
atomic topaz
lol im just kiddin
i loved what ive played of adventure 2
the knuckles stages are mildly annoying tho
a new one is long overdue
flint folio
Adventure 2 is also one of if not the highest rated sonic game among anyone who’s played them, and at the very least it’s the highest rated 3D game
So even the mention of a continuation set everyone off
atomic topaz
Lol big is in prime
THIS IS HUGE
I feel like big has never been acknowledged in sonic tv animation
unless he was in sonic x and i missed it
flint folio
He was, I don’t recall how much though
atomic topaz
He was, I don’t recall how much though
Given that I don't remember him at all in that show it was probably just a few episodes
flint folio
He was definitely in the first episode
atomic topaz
oh lol
atomic topaz
Apparently in 15 episodes
oh damn
out of 78
thats a decent chunk
Well in that case what I meant to say was
He wasn't in Sonic Boom so its kinda nice to see him again in sonic tv
flint folio
I mean sure he was in them but there’s a big area where he wasn’t, so representation is cool anyway
atomic topaz
I mean sure he was in them but there’s a big area where he wasn’t, so representa...
Yeah like hes not a hugely represented character so any recognition he gets is pretty cool
flint folio
I agree
atomic topaz
I'm not one of those guys who's like "FUCK big hes fat and stupid and annoying"
flint folio
I mean he was very annoying in a few entries, but others he wasn’t
atomic topaz
I mean he was very annoying in a few entries, but others he wasn’t
And then there was sonic paradox's sonic shorts series where they portrayed him as being actually mentally challenged
grizzled stone
"Oho! Oho! Oho!" - Big the Cat
flint folio
Well I guess there is that
grizzled stone
love his bellyflop in Heroes
untold arch
GUYS
MY FRIEND WENT TO A CONVENTION TODAY
AND MET COLLEEN O SHAUGNESSY
SHE EVEN GOT HER AUTOGRAPH 😭 😭 😭
flint folio
Dope as hell
Do show
P.s. sonic frontiers had a playable demo at SGF today and fuck me the reception has been excellent
I’ve seen a handful to tweets and they all say the game is smooth, controls are great, all sorts
Previews from them are next week, they’ve played cyberspace levels too.
Excited to hear more thoughts
Twitter
Just an example
atomic topaz
https://twitter.com/goldenboyftw/status/1535485619157159938?s=21&t=tqXUgnmBVnEn5...
so there is hope
:)
flint folio
There was always hope
I never thought the game looked bad, I was always excited
Just critics and reviewers being positive is very good news
atomic topaz
Just critics and reviewers being positive is very good news
All the hate its been getting has disheartened me a bit
flint folio
Important to not read too many of other peoples opinions and form your own
Sure people can not like it, I get it, but I do
atomic topaz
Not saying I agree with those people but it was worrying
flint folio
It happens every time, some arguments are valid, others are misplaced and unlikely
atomic topaz
yeah
flint folio
People wanting utopia 2 are simply expecting the wrong game
atomic topaz
lol
flint folio
But those pointing out clear bugs and performance issues are very right to point it out, and perhaps bits of the game they don’t like
Just my personal taste in games really sings out to this game, and if things like combat is satisfying that’d sell the game alone
atomic topaz
perhaps just give it a month delay to fix bugs or whatever but it seems like the game will actually be good
flint folio
A month wouldn’t make much difference, see how things develop
atomic topaz
you right
flint folio
If that was a build from about may, I expect the difference between 6 and 7 months won’t change much
If it stays that kinda buggy then I’d be pretty disappointed, but I’ll be quietly optimistic about that
That being said I’m also slightly biased toward optimism but I’m just one opinion I suppose lol
My main thought is to see how this month of frontiers hangs out, see how much we see, and reviewers being positive is a very nice sign
grizzled stone
Sonic heads, get ya sonic heads!
atomic topaz
lol
atomic topaz
My main thought is to see how this month of frontiers hangs out, see how much we...
it def has me more optimistic
its just nice to know that it probably controls well at least
flint folio
Sonic heads, get ya sonic heads!
Saw those in game once lol
grizzled stone
these were in Smyths today
atomic topaz
Saw those in game once lol
What if we had a sonic game where there was a floating sonic head like like the floating Mario head in Mario 64
like on the menu
grizzled stone
Kinda surprised I haven't seen someone do that with the Adventure 1 Sonic head
spring hill
yo those Sonic heads are so soft. my gf and I both have one
also Sonic Adventure [3?] hype rn
I'm very excited for Frontiers too
grizzled stone
Frontiers interests me, I wanna see how the final product ends up, and what the fanbase does with it
Probably won't end up playing it for a while, I don't really have the kind of money to be buying full price games
(Or at least I can't justify the purchase to myself)
flint folio
That’s awesome!
atomic topaz
That’s awesome!
if there was ever a picture of Joe meeting Roger i think i would explode
flint folio
I’ve never met anyone famous, but I’ll try one day
atomic topaz
I’ve never met anyone famous, but I’ll try one day
you'd best try and make sure roger is the first one lol
or any actor who's worked on sonic
hell if it was someone from the new Sonic Prime i'd probably still explode
grizzled stone
I think the most famous person I've met is the voice of K-9 from Doctor Who?
atomic topaz
hell if you met Ben Schwartz i'd be just as impressed
maybe more
because you would have met Jean Ralphio Saperstein
one of my FAVORITE recurring TV characters
next tartan
I think the most famous person I've met is the voice of K-9 from Doctor Who?
I met the 8th doctor
And the red mighty moprhin power ranger and I met zordon
Zordon gave me his business card
Also qrow from rwby
I have a photo of that one
grizzled stone
!!!
atomic topaz
I met the 8th doctor
WAIT
next tartan
Waiting
next tartan
It wasn't a TV movie iirc
Oh it was
Yea he only appeared in that and in a five minute special, TV wise, but he has plenty of comics, books and audiobooks
atomic topaz
Yea he only appeared in that and in a five minute special, TV wise, but he has p...
So the fandom has embraced him as a mainline doctor
thats cool
its a similar situation to how George Lazenby is considered one of the main Bond actors
despite only appearing in one film, On Her Majesty's Secret Service in 1969
next tartan
He was never not a mainline doctor
It's more that he loved the role, and big finish gave him a lot of opportunities to play it after the movie
grizzled stone
if we're pairing bonds to doctors, would Daniel Craig and Christopher Eccleston go together?
atomic topaz
if we're pairing bonds to doctors, would Daniel Craig and Christopher Eccleston ...
wait are you saying this based on appearance or tone?
because Craig's 007 is really cold and grounded, more in line with Fleming's novels
is eccleston's doctor more dark?
grizzled stone
now that I think about it what AM I basing that on
I'm guessing in part appearance
can't remember if his run as the doctor is more dark
next tartan
can't remember if his run as the doctor is more dark
It is very gritty and oddly realistic
Compared to what came before it, it's fuckin scary
In the first episode of his run a bunch of killer mannequins are chasing him across London and it's creepy
He straight up just let someone die in the second ep
But then, old who is campy even if it's a serious tone (such as genesis of the daleks)
Eccleston and Craig were both actors who played grittier and darker versions of what were campy characters even if they weren't always intended to be campy and they both did it wonderfully
atomic topaz
Eccleston and Craig were both actors who played grittier and darker versions of ...
indeed, last week i rewatched Skyfall and my GOD it is even better than i remembered
atomic topaz
i cant speak to Eccleston as ive only watched like 2 episodes from the Matt Smith run and basically nothing else, but it sounds really unique!
@grizzled stone
grizzled stone
I do love the vibes of his run, hanging around 2005 London is my kind of aesthetic
stuff like Rose's fashion
flint folio
Sir, this is the Sonic thread
Stop making me excited that someone actually cares about the blue cunt
atomic topaz
Stop making me excited that someone actually cares about the blue cunt
british sonic
spring hill
God, I can't wait for origins
flint folio
God, I can’t wait for frontiers
atomic topaz
Stop making me excited that someone actually cares about the blue cunt
oh you mean because the thread shows when there are new messages
flint folio
Yes
atomic topaz
https://twitter.com/sonic_frontier/status/1536347280587902976?s=21&t=ZUyng_cRrlr...
account's bio made me lol
flint folio
Skeet when someone waits for a bus:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
atomic topaz
bruh lol
atomic topaz
Did he just fucking chaos confuckyou that shit
also what
atomic topaz
i did not
atomic topaz
fair
flint folio
LOTS of frontiers B-roll is out there, this one includes the ghost girl
right at the end, briefly
the opinion on this game is shifting, iizuka has some very interesting things to say on some of the mixed reactions
the playtesting feedback and demo at SGF has surprised me with how positive its been
gonna spam this chat with info as i find it
slow down at 19 seconds for a surprise flip?
AT 37s HE DOES IT AGAIN
the fuck is that
Fun look at reveal footage vs now
fairly positive little article
fairly "iizuka out of touch" clickbait going on, and you could sure make comments about marketing but putting that aside there is good news here
flint folio
Twitter
grizzled stone
Like tuning a car haha
Jokes aside, that's neat
Actually, another joke: Shadow's shoes in Sonic 3 should be Reeboks
flint folio
i have posted a multitude of things only to be greeted by near radio silence for most of the day
probably should have said something about doctor who
my excitement remains even if it is difficult to share it lol
grizzled stone
yeah sorry this is Sonic as in the screwdriver
I don't really have too much to say I guess? I'm not great at carrying things.
I like the look of Frontiers so far, seems really interesting to get this different take with bits of everything past
I am a little worried about the holiday release date, but that's more because I watched those episodes of What Happened? and am now paranoid about Sonic games releasing for holidays
I guess I wonder why the HUD isn't there yet?
flint folio
I am a little worried about the holiday release date, but that's more because I ...
Well unleashed released in the holiday too so I can’t complain, though I mean, I don’t have much to say on that either, I don’t really care much?
HUD doesn’t seem to be there to show gameplay more clearly, I guess it’ll come, whenever SEGA allow it
Just the more things come out the more excited I become, especially with sliders to customise sonics controls and the more interesting story from Ian Flynn
grizzled stone
Ooh yeah, that's really nice to see
flint folio
I guess I’m, if anything, more excited than most, so I am struggling to find anyone to convey that with other than people who are like “yeah idc imo” and then I just melt and die
Like many many firsts here and even just the convincing positive response is nuts, the newer footage even looks much better than before
I think I just want a sonic game I spend hours and hours in the vanilla game, I like mods but I’m not too fussed about a good chunk of them, and the idea of a huge open sonic game sounds great for dicking around in
next tartan
the opinion on this game is shifting, iizuka has some very interesting things to...
I read an article that says it plays better than it looks which honestly would be great lol
And would make sense!
flint folio
I have posted a good chunk of that
Though there’s a few dedicated accounts posting all the articles and I’d clog up chat doing so myself, sonic stadium posted almost all of them, I read a couple
Also there’s about 5 minutes of extra footage and most of it looks much better than the 14 minutes or so we got from IGN
next tartan
That trailer looks absolutely fabulous wtf
The 14 minutes of ign footage looked boring as fuck bc it was around what seems to be the equivalent of the towers in botw
And ergo, it's slow
grizzled stone
I think I just want a sonic game I spend hours and hours in the vanilla game, I ...
Navigating around obstacles and terrain at speed in an open environment is fun, kinda wonder if any parallels could be drawn to the Tony Hawk games
flint folio
I mean, In the extra footage they climb the tower again, but quicker
next tartan
Bc those towers are slow too. If you saw footage of link climbing those towers and nothing else it would be boring as fuck
flint folio
Navigating around obstacles and terrain at speed in an open environment is fun, ...
I have literally seen this comparison and it surprised me
next tartan
I mean, In the extra footage they climb the tower again, but quicker
Oh fr lemme lookie
flint folio
BOTW towers were kinda mini puzzles in themselves, which made them fun
grizzled stone
I have literally seen this comparison and it surprised me
ayyy
flint folio
I’ll get up the full video
Tower is about 1:57 in
Not lightning fast, but much faster
next tartan
Combat looks good as fuck
next tartan
https://youtu.be/im5sU7S0h5U
Tysm bestie
flint folio
Literally all of this is better than the IGN footage lol
And it’s fuckin B roll
Who is marketing this game
next tartan
What does b roll mean
flint folio
What I mean is it’s just other guff that I had to dig for
next tartan
Also fwiw, ign have never been "good" or "entertaining" or "good" with their footage of games
flint folio
This is random ass videos that I didn’t see advertised anywhere but from fans or small channels
The fucking IGN first videos are from sonic team how the fuck
next tartan
I'm convinced they just pull some random fucker in off the street, give them a controller and inject some sort of drug into then
next tartan
The fucking IGN first videos are from sonic team how the fuck
How the FUCK is it that bad
flint folio
I have no idea, like going slow to show of the world is cool and I get it, but even that was poor
next tartan
I have no idea, like going slow to show of the world is cool and I get it, but e...
Show the world off by stopping a few times, not going s l o w in a game about speed
flint folio
We’ve not seen a skill tree and it almost definitely was on the hud
I would enjoy a video of speeding around to certain areas and going slow when you get there
Oh did you see the blurry ass demo footage? We see the HUD somewhat
Much better image
next tartan
Oh did you see the blurry ass demo footage? We see the HUD somewhat
Oh my god I didn't but oh my god finally
What does it do when you get 400 rings tho hm
Also, sonic seems to be able to throw a ring or something which is kind of cool
It's like that Saturn game where he threw rings bc it was 2.5d and they didn't invent the homing attack yet
flint folio
Afaik you can increase ring capacity, could be health
Tails threw rings in 06, although I hated that
Small skill tree for the demo
If only SEGA would show off these very cool parts of the game
It could be a fucking masterpiece and we’d have no clue
next tartan
That was a great trailer
next tartan
If only SEGA would show off these very cool parts of the game
It could be a fuck...
It's kinda smart? But kinda not???
Builds interest, but also since nobody has faith in sega because they fuck things up more often than they should, it just means everyone's nervous the game secretly sucks and they're hiding the fact it sucks
flint folio
Iizuka is playing 4D Chess with frontiers
What if all the trailers are shit and then the last one blows your mind with like
Shit you actually care about
next tartan
Tbf, I loved all these trailers so far except the first
Animation is kinda iffy! But, it looks fun
flint folio
It is a little, but idk if you noticed but the rail switching animation was fixed I think, or whatever in the trailer happened, it didn’t in the other footage
next tartan
I didn't notice the rail animations at all ngl
flint folio
Also I need the boost explained to me, sometimes it’s held down, other times he taps it forever
next tartan
I was more referring to the combat footage
flint folio
In the reveal trailer sonic flipped the same way for both rails, or the dev had to correct themselves? But in the recent one it was different flips
next tartan
Also I need the boost explained to me, sometimes it’s held down, other times he ...
Ok so boost will make you go like say, 100 sonics an hour for a second then it goes down to 70 sonics an hour so if he taps it he can go 100 Infinitely
next tartan
Zoomy
flint folio
Exactly, give me dopamine rush with the go fast button
If the combat stays satisfying those two things alone sells the game to me
Though I really either want that SGF demo or to see switch gameplay
atomic topaz
@flint folio https://youtu.be/02la2SZvxtk
flint folio
i saw this
atomic topaz
whoops
flint folio
i saw a mod that added sonic and it was cursed
would be cool MK8 DLC to add 3rd party areas
atomic topaz
Don't think that will ever happen for Mario kart 8
But maybe for the next Mario kart game
I heard rumors a while back of nintendo wanting to make Mario kart more like smash brothers
In terms of characters
atomic topaz
@flint folio are you playing alot of sonic while being covid'd
flint folio
i played speed sim for a bit
atomic topaz
nice
flint folio
did the latest event, wasted all my rings
atomic topaz
i played like a week ago
maybe two
rebirthed a couple times
then logged off
i havent got chemical plant yet
flint folio
there is a new summer sonic skin that has the adventure 1 shoes, so thats neat
flint folio
On my way to platinuming sonic forces
atomic topaz
On my way to platinuming sonic forces
omw to not do that
flint folio
Epic
atomic topaz
Epic
I really should play more sonic adventure 2 though
I just hated the knuckles level I was stuck on
the floating televisions do NOTHING
@flint folio
fuck i spelled that word wrong
flint folio
Lol
The TVs are sometimes helpful but I did not like a good chunk of the adventure games gameplay
Treasure hunting is a cool idea but my god was it a pain in both games
atomic topaz
flint folio
same
flint folio
Yeah lol
atomic topaz
what the fuckles, here comes knuckles
thanks steve
subtle geode
you're welcome
flint folio
what the fuckles, here comes knuckles
I’d pay a small subscription fee for random Steve quips regularly or an equivalent bot
atomic topaz
I’d pay a small subscription fee for random Steve quips regularly or an equivale...
i would do the same for you
flint folio
Eat shit cunt
billed $1.99, thank you for subscribing to Joe
atomic topaz
Amazing
flint folio
Joe from the future warned me that I think sonic forces is just okay
atomic topaz
Joe from the future warned me that I think sonic forces is just okay
And better than sonic lost world?
atomic topaz
I mean, I couldn’t stand lost world
I'm pretty sure there are people that like that game though
I remember it being divisive at best
flint folio
I'm pretty sure there are people that like that game though
There’s plenty who genuinely really like forces too
I am not sure how that’s relevant though, since you asked me and not the consensus
Glad to see Jason sees the praise he gets
Also anyone noticed he looks a little like gigachad
grizzled stone
very chadly
grizzled stone
Hmmm
atomic topaz
https://twitter.com/sonic_frontier/status/1537800743301914625?s=21&t=8fV2BDIdKzP...
wait there ARE multiple levels???
flint folio
For cyberspace or the overworld? Because both are confirmed to have many
Even the frontiers website mentioned about 4 at least, and cyberspace is likely 7 different stages unrelated to those biomes
Cyberspace are boost levels likely going to be generations style from sonics past, and the biomes/islands he visits will be of multiple styles, though we’ve not seen them
flint folio
@atomic topaz pinging you since you asked and didn’t respond yet
atomic topaz
<@378603106319204352> pinging you since you asked and didn’t respond yet
thats sweet as FUCK
more bang for my buck
flint folio
more bang for my buck
Yeah interviews said the game will be about 20-30 hours. With double that for 100%
Since I put 60 hours into mostly vanilla generations, that’s pretty great value
It’s the longest sonic game in history, by at least 2-3x
I think sonic 06 may have been one of the longest, being about 8-10 hours?
atomic topaz
Yeah interviews said the game will be about 20-30 hours. With double that for 10...
hella ambitious
considering so many sonic games are like 3 hours long
flint folio
Well, forces is 3 hours, colours is 3-4, generations is like 2.5, maybe 4 if you do the side stuff, unleashed was 8 or so, 06 was maybe 10, adventure games were maybe 6..?
So recently, yeah
Frontiers will likely take me as long to finish at it took me to 100% forces entirely
I can see a cool 100 hours being spent
atomic topaz
I can see a cool 100 hours being spent
Swag
flint folio
Based on just replaying levels and walking about really
I always preferred much longer games, I like to stick with stuff for a while
atomic topaz
Based on just replaying levels and walking about really
Just as long as the gameplay is good you know which it seems like it is
flint folio
That’ll be down to opinion I reckon, but it seems well made or at least decently thought out, so if I liked forces to some extent this will definitely be better
It’s good that I’m asking myself how good it will be rather than if it’ll be good
Though based on interviews and shit, it does seem like everyone hasn’t got the full picture yet, I get that’s likely because the videos haven’t been great, but it’s good to know there’s plenty left
atomic topaz
That’ll be down to opinion I reckon, but it seems well made or at least decently...
man if theres a publically released demo
i'll play the shit out of it
flint folio
Fella if that happens I am g o n e
atomic topaz
Fella if that happens I am g o n e
I mean depends how long it is but yeah I know what you mean
flint folio
Bruh I’d replay shit like that for ages, idc how long it is I’d play it on everything
Tbf I could really use a demo for performance
atomic topaz
I know most of us are going to buy it anyways but I think we would still love to try it beforehand
flint folio
Performance is my biggest worry, I’d like to try it on every system I own
atomic topaz
Performance is my biggest worry, I’d like to try it on every system I own
im just gonna get it on whatever i have at the time
that isnt switch
so either ps4 or ps5
flint folio
Well you have many things
atomic topaz
Well you have many things
i dont have a ps5 yet tho
also you know i meant the most current lol
its obv coming out on ps4
flint folio
I’m just saying you have a switch too, I’m very interested to see how that runs
atomic topaz
sonic game will run fine on ps4 i think
flint folio
It doesn’t look that demanding, should run fine on everything I own
atomic topaz
lol yeah
that makes more since
its closer to ps3 which is what you could compare the switch too
flint folio
There abouts
Nintendo has rarely been with the other consoles in terms of graphical power
Ever since the Wii really
flint folio
Well home consoles they were for a bit,
The Wii U was kinda in some ways but not massively?
atomic topaz
the last time their hardware was on par with the current gen was Gamecube
comparable to ps2
their choice to have the wii run basically the same graphics as gc was what set them back forever
flint folio
Then the Wii U was a decent jump and the switch was the exact same thing
atomic topaz
wii u was a good 6 years late from the HD competition tho
so they only had a year to catch up before the next gen was released
so they didnt
flint folio
Yeah it was, but the Wii U to the switch was yet another side step in graphical power
atomic topaz
Yeah it was, but the Wii U to the switch was yet another side step in graphical ...
yeah
its been kind of a shitshow for ports in some respects
flint folio
Well it’s got the DNA of handhelds, cheaper console for less graphical power
Then companies try squeeze doom eternal on it
Issue is it’s likely Nintendo will do a step up the moment Ps4/Xbone are phased out, so it’ll be pointless for those ports again lol
atomic topaz
because like
any remaster of a 360 era game that is released for ps4/xbone that gets a switch port
they try to port that newer version
and wonder why it turns out bad
just downgrade it to the 360 graphics
and dont call it remstered on switch
flint folio
Would be good to bring back the old Xbox live arcade “HD” games
Just rerelease it in HD
It’d run excellently on switch then
atomic topaz
i just hate that they always do it that way yknow
flint folio
Well yeah, the switch would be perfect for HD ports not massive remasters
atomic topaz
the epitome of this fuckery is the Kingdom Hearts cloud version trainwreck
flint folio
Lol cloud versions on a portable console
atomic topaz
everyone knows they should've just tried to convert the PS3 version of the final mix remasters
atomic topaz
you just dont have to use ps4 version
flint folio
It happened once, like with KOTOR?
It got a remake announced and the switch just got the original
atomic topaz
yeah like
im glad they did that
flint folio
It’s a good way to do it
atomic topaz
all the old lucasarts games coming to switch has just been really nice
like im not buying them cause most of them run on my pc, but its cool
flint folio
Portability is nice, I can’t take my PC everywhere
Hell, I wouldn’t even wanna take a laptop everywhere
atomic topaz
yeah
flint folio
Rereleases on switch kinda hit different anyway
atomic topaz
but like, i prefer Republic Commando on a mouse and keyboard
flint folio
Mouser kerboard
atomic topaz
Mouser kerboard
thats fair
flint folio
Funni
flint folio
It made me chuckle
atomic topaz
happy to amuse ig lol
flint folio
I’d be a cunt if I pointed out a wrong your or something
flint folio
I could not hear you say this IRL
flint folio
I’d probably go harder than gibbon, something that makes very little sense
atomic topaz
wanktoaster
flint folio
Something like that
atomic topaz
lol
atomic topaz
It’s magnificent
i havent had time but i really wanna play more sa2 now
flint folio
I did that for a bit, then I realised I’m in the boat where I only like 1/3rd of the game anyway
atomic topaz
I did that for a bit, then I realised I’m in the boat where I only like 1/3rd of...
i can see what you mean, the sonic sections are hella fun and fast and full of momentum, then you get to stuff like knuckles
flint folio
Then the physics on the mech levels suck
atomic topaz
i'd say i enjoy the tails mech sections better than those so far
flint folio
Jumping about and shit feels horrendous and it’s hard to judge
flint folio
Can’t say I look forward to them
I struggle to enjoy a game when I only really want to play as 2 characters and see the cutscenes
Similar with generations I guess
atomic topaz
I struggle to enjoy a game when I only really want to play as 2 characters and s...
whose the other character you like
shadow?
i seem to always forget if he was or not
flint folio
He was or not what
atomic topaz
He was or not what
playable
fuck
i went to work and forgot about this interaction lol
subtle geode
lol
flint folio
Plotnum
flint folio
I’m glad that was still your first response
atomic topaz
I’m glad that was still your first response
well yeah you love to say stuff like "please care" when you post something niche
flint folio
It is my desperate attempt at someone to care about what I’m doing
atomic topaz
It is my desperate attempt at someone to care about what I’m doing
I own all of the Guitar Hero games on wii
please care
flint folio
This is the sonic thread
atomic topaz
Yeah
flint folio
So
atomic topaz
and
flint folio
So why would you talk about guitar hero here
I was posting an achievement how is this now about your Wii collection
atomic topaz
because i HATE you
flint folio
You don’t nail this stance very well
flint folio
There’s more to this joke than being mean and saying jk after
flint folio
Apparently so
flint folio
Sonic speed sim added metal sonic
flint folio
Oh we care about the silly Roblox game
atomic topaz
you obviously do
flint folio
I care about the blue cunt, hence why I keep up
atomic topaz
I care about the blue cunt, hence why I keep up
Why do you call him a cunt then
flint folio
British slang, and my mannerisms are not to be taken so literally
atomic topaz
British slang, and my mannerisms are not to be taken so literally
sadly i am american
flint folio
I know but you can understand not to take things I say so literally
I make that fairly clear
flint folio
It’s hard to tell if you’re just being nasty to me or ignorant rather than joking
atomic topaz
It’s hard to tell if you’re just being nasty to me or ignorant rather than jokin...
this is not the impression i wanted to have on you
flint folio
You could not do that, it’s not the best idea for your joke to be rude and just say jk, and it just being a thing you do isn’t the best reasoning lol
atomic topaz
You could not do that, it’s not the best idea for your joke to be rude and just ...
well i mean
us jokingly roasting each other is a thing we've done for awhile
idk
flint folio
It’s not mindless though
flint folio
well yeah you love to say stuff like "please care" when you post something niche
Like I have no idea where you were going this point onwards, keep looping back to just an insult that doesn’t go anywhere lol
atomic topaz
idk either
flint folio
Like I get it but you get to a stage where I have no idea what you’re trying to do
Like I just wanna share something but it kinda goes off the rails and it seems odd
That’s what I mean, like “I don’t care” can be funny off the bat, especially before actually responding
But then the rest is like
Huh
atomic topaz
But then the rest is like
Huh
man idk anymore
i can't think of anything to say to this
flint folio
It’s fine
Nothing major, just felt it was worth pointing out
Just wanted to stop like what are you actually talking about lol
atomic topaz
im sorry for whatever i made you feel
but i dont really know what else to say beyond that
atomic topaz
you're friendship still means alot to me i hope ya always know that man
flint folio
You too mate, always been the way
flint folio
I respect that, I also respect calling things out if it doesn’t seem right
Works both ways obviously
atomic topaz
yeah
flint folio
Not sure what point we’re getting at now, but I’m sure it’s all gone through lol
This is the sonic thread
And somehow still the most active sonic channel I am in, I don’t talk much anywhere else
atomic topaz
And somehow still the most active sonic channel I am in, I don’t talk much anywh...
You struggle to find people that aren't questionable
im assuming
Cause isn't it just a big weird cluster fuck out there in the wider fandom
flint folio
Mostly, plus a huge clusterfuck of opinions it’s really hard to express my admiration for certain things without being ridiculed by someone who disagrees
A lot of the time I’m not looking to debate, I want to just enjoy stuff and express that
atomic topaz
yeah ive noticed that about you, its a very admirable trait
grizzled stone
I hope we get to see more alternate addon things involving other characters in future
Actually, Shadow would be a perfect fit in Frontiers by the looks of things
flint folio
yeah ive noticed that about you, its a very admirable trait
Somewhat yeah, but when you’re a fan of sonic it’s constant debate, I just wanna share enjoyment for stuff and be glad I’m a fan, it’s why frontiers has been exhausting with so much negativity and mixed reviews early on, I was not having fun
Glad you appreciate the trait though
flint folio
Actually, Shadow would be a perfect fit in Frontiers by the looks of things
Episode Shadow 2????
atomic topaz
Somewhat yeah, but when you’re a fan of sonic it’s constant debate, I just wanna...
: )
and yeah literally everything ive seen is people just saying it looks like ass
like wtf
they're giving you an actually huge and ambitious sonic game
flint folio
Shits changed overtime a lot though, it’s just very tiring to talk about
grizzled stone
Episode Shadow 2????
Shadow 2: Ultimate Boogaloo
flint folio
Epic
grizzled stone
But yeah, little extra things that use the other characters like that, mini-campaigns
I'd love to see that
flint folio
Wouldn’t it be nice if we got post release content
grizzled stone
That'd be lovely
atomic topaz
Wouldn’t it be nice if we got *post release content*
sanic drawing dlc
flint folio
ill fuggin do it again
atomic topaz
do what again
flint folio
more sanic DLC
atomic topaz
more sanic DLC
Wait that was just a joke
was there actually sanic DLC that I missed
in another game
atomic topaz
Forces has sanic shirt DLC
FUCK
that is actually awesome
now enjoy your sleep, i didnt mean to keep you sorry lol
flint folio
Lol it’s ok, the DLC is free too
atomic topaz
epic
atomic topaz
Lol it’s ok, the DLC is free too
still doesn't beat the big budget live action movie actually acknowledging it
flint folio
True
atomic topaz
Still can't believe we live in a time when where that shit is real