#terraria-pc
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No wonder you’re dying
huh?
What
i cant find a server when i can play .-.
explain
Those are bad accesories
What’s your class
ender indeed
i use whatever
iam a melee person and i have alot of defence
No wonder your dying, part 2 electric boogaloo
- Pick a Class
- I’ll tel you what to get
- Profit
ill go with summoner then
how so
has no defence and the only thing that really helps u is your pets
id do melee or range
No
It’s not
magic is also good
ender it is
i enjoy range a lot but i dont know which weapons to use
ive beaten the whole game and have all the steam achievment 104/104
And if your good at summoner you have way more DPS than the others
So? That’s not impressive
90% of the smartest players I know play summojer
I play summojer
And have been in this server for ages
That isn’t
Impressive
At all
Then go Ranger
cool ive been playing terraria for 6 years
you have something that can help me w ranger class
I've been playing since 2013 and I dont know shit about the game
Lol
Ruining the game for them
its not necesary i really wanna enjoy the game and not get maxed out quicky
alright xtra
Yeah I’ll DM a message to you what to get
It’ll take a bit
ok thanks
Ranger is good
Ok
i used to steal and shit on xbox 360 days on terraria so i never got to enjoy the game since i was young and didnt understand the game correctly so now that i got a pc i wanna enjoy it
I remember playing on mobile
And duping items cuz I wanted to get to orcram
Using the copy character thing
And I accidentally deleted it
Lol
Poha
post planterra
i currently have my xbox 360 character in my xbox one so i can play it whenever but i already have a lot of stuff including the zenith and havent beaten the moolord on it
What
Console got 1.4?
When
A few months ago
Mobile, PS4 and Xbox have 1.4.0
How have I not heard about this
like last month
Yea
Dude
I played 3ds all the time
I had chlorophyte armor
And was confused why the cultist wouldn't spawn
Lol
Hello everyone 
Hi
Bye everyone
Sorry about my grammatics, im Russian
Bye axolotl
Kinda figured
Yep
Oh nice
The "book" good?
also is crystal armor recommended?
It’s the same E-Book I’ve read 28 times so no
Lmao
If your mixed
Kinda
Otherwise
Not usually
Oh that armor
lol i tried to fight her in the day anf i forgot she one shots you
lmao
Wrong boss
Are you blind?
i know golem time
No like we’re talking about Queen Slime not Empress
I used to play on ps4 and completed the game in master mode. later I wanted to learn how to play on the computer
How long ago did you play PS4
and i was talking abt the empress
does running and using teleporter work agaisned golem
still
Start playing?
Standing still menacingly works against golem
Last played
even as summoner?
This is not a joke
5 days ago
there was no master mode until the 1.4 came out which was like 1-2 months ago
It’s golem
What do you expect
Partially
Which
Is why I was asking
For time
nice
wont golem destroy me in master mode ftw if i stand still
I just didn't think they were good
Also, i have terraria on computer
Oh FTW golem
Probably
They’re like my favourite armour sets behind all the Summojer Armour Sets
lol
Oh
Just use beenades
Sorry to offend you ig
wat
Lemme check the stats actually
Betrayed by an Axolotl
*Looks Wise
Who want to play right now?
But is the only perfect mixed class armour after WoF
should i give up my shield of cthulu for a necromantic scroll
Oh
What mode are you on
It has a dash too?
yes
Then Accesories should be
Wings
Terraspark/Amphibian Boots
Master Ninja Gear
Berserker’s Glove
Papyrus Scroll
Necromantic Scroll
Another Damage accesory
Only Classic pre-plant dash
so no emblm?
Another Damage Accesory
wait lol
Yellow Yump Horseshoe / Bundle of Yumps
Amphibian Boots
Set yourself free from the winged empire, yumps forever. 
wha?
and wht about the pygm necklace
Hmm
Another Damage Accesory (I count extra summons as Damage)
oh k
Just use the accesory loadout I said + one other damage thing
still need to get master ninja gear lol
Necro and Papy Scroll gives Minion Slots so you don’t really need Pygmy Necklsce
okey
Plus if you have spooky armoir that’s more minions
ill keep it untill the master ninja gear
Must be nice
Too bad Sandstorm refuses to show up in worlds' pyramids
I love all the how all the Summoner Armours look except Forbidden and Bee
Are we talking daytime EoL?
No
Hmk.
the armours i never use lol
forbidden looks fine to me
I use Forbidden because it shreds invasions and Destroyer.
Especially Obsidian, Spider and Spooky
Anyone wanna do new world i will not talk
Isn't obsidian the really op armor
it’s the whip set
Otherwise, sure, Obsidian from practically the start of the game to the end of the game. Because that's how progress works, right?
3rd best summojer armour
Oh
obsidian is the funny whip armor
Only beaten by Spooky and Stardust
you can use it well into hardmode
bruh lol
yes
but i rather hallow armour cuz doge
I don't count ML drops when rating how good things are in the game due to having already beaten the game by then.
You can use it for Moonlord if your lazy enough
and crazi
3rd best armor overall and somehow still strong enough to outDPS ML
probably why it got nerfed lmfao
The nerf did basically nothing
survivability is good too
a free dodge every 30s is life saving
I only used it after its nerf - that only made it like 1% less broken imo
yes def
still very good
Does anyone need help getting started
If they did
They would ask
ok gonna try get master ninja gear
what was its stats before the nerf
I have a spare one of those XD
So does like
Anyoke who’s beaten the game
i mean if i really wanted to cheat it in i would use terrasavr
does journey mode count
Yeah
That is kinda boaring tho
I'm glad I forced myself into doing Wall of Flesh just so I could move on
Your boring :)
journey is fun
I think I would've just spent another 20 hours preparing for HM otherwise
Its fun to build in
godmode funni
bruh i need the dungen for the master ninja gear
i hate that place
so much
yes
and its a rare mob why
the drop chance is high
its 15 percent
anyone wanna build together?
yes that’s a high drop rate
a high drop rate is like 50+ percent
where in some games there's loot tables with 0.001% 15% is kinda high
then RoD must be less rare
yep
bone lees aren’t that rare
go in circles around it
if anyone needs any help defeating any bosses i can help note: iam on expert
get better mobility accessories
if anyone wana play i can note: iam on expert
Spectre Boots
how much damage des he do
Luck
not full hp issue
Look it up
i said full helth
wait i need life fruit
i forgot about those
not paying attention to hp issue
mate i was staring at my hp the whole time and letting minions destroy
I-
Your post plant
And haven’t got Life Fryit
yea
maybe that’s why you also died instantly
it grows after planterra right
No
After 1 mech
before
what
@upbeat sand my man blocked me why? In the middle of a play through
well i made everything harder for no reason
currently crying trying to get a giant feather
time to get the fruit firs
The real reason people use it for ML is because they didn't make a hardmode whip-centric set though. Just like there's no support Magic sets until Spectre/Nebula.
who asked

Wings
you can get the leaf wings ez to get and good
Leaf Wings are terrible
stfu
They’rein the second worst wing group
Pretty sure there's plenty of options besides Harpy, but it's whatever.
True dat
Harpy is easy to get so
Pretty sure they're better than harpy tho
pixie
They aren’t
im pre mech bosses
Not since 1.4
Oh
i just ment untill you get harpy they are an easy grab i never said they are the best
Usually have a Giant Feather in preHM from floating island hunting. But complaining about RNG is what we do here, I guess. 
Just a waste of money
since harpy rng can be bad like it was for me lol
Too bad I don't use wings. 
fairy wing
death
it’s just background
Nothing
You can’t it’s rng
to make the game look better
how do i get rid of spikes easily in the dunges they just keep poking me and mining just hurts as well
Nothing. Death. The truth of man's existence. 
bomb
dynamite
bomb
nuclear explosives
solution to all problmes
cool
time to bomb
wait mt demolitionist is ded
i ned bomb
is it possible to uncraft something?
ah well
luckily i didnt even need to mine hardmode ores just for like a pic and anvil
anyone interesting in playing with me? i can help at any way as long as u not toxic and asking for stuff all the time.
raven or blade staff in dungen?
Blade
new character and ill play w u
yee
ahh iam good i dont want to spend like over 100hours again getting new stuff
time to launch 10 blades at peple
Just need a storm and then go to the snow. They happen more than you might think
is it on mastermode?
which thing
world difficulty
nvm but u need a character that can enter expert mode
yeah
u got steam?
That’s ltkedslly any character that isn’t journey
*literarlly
something keeps teleporting when i hit it i cant even read its name
spongebob
whats coming on the new update
ah yes
when is it coming out
i dont know what that is unfortunately
based
why is the dungen so weird
some random fireball just came and kept exploding in thin air
bahahaha
and a bone lee spawned and dissapered
Welcome to the dungeon
atleast they arnt that rare
FINALLY got both that didnt take that long
now time for life fruitz
i got a godly inferno fork
i have no idea from where
Frame it
uhm
at last the master ninja gear
wow its dash is noice
what the hell is this how do i avoid all this stuff from the empress lol
even in the night lol
You learn the pattern
Also use a very large arena and the best wings you can get at that point
can someone help me with killing the empriss of light i need the whip and the summoning staff from her
#archive-ltp if you wan in-game hep
Then it isn’t a demon altar
i need too
illlll help
no, he isnt in hm
So?
anyone wanna play
my bad
Plenty of people have beaten her when 'all that stuff' was oneshot death in enraged/daytime.
anyone able to help me/carry me in the empress of light battle i need the whip and staff she drops
There are yt videos to help with her patterns (that and stressing on mobility and arena size will win you the fight)
oh my god!!!!!!!!!!
OMG i was afking in my farm and i came back now a RoD was lying on the grounddddddddddd
YEEEEEe
will sanguine staff be better than the blade one for EoL
cuz we need to stay far right
you need the ham axe from wall of flesh
hi
i have the pwnhammer, i realized that world wasnt in hardmode
XD
does anyone know anything about the caves (trenches) that can appear in the oceans ever since 1.4
i've been trying to find absolutely any sort of info about them but not even the wiki has anything
not even sure if the addition was intentional at this point
YES
i think honestly its a failed cave
in the wrong place
piediewpew991
gimme one sec ima kill a boss
oop
piediepew
991
anyone got 63 stardust and 36 luminite bars extra i lost my stardust gear
bruh no sunfury ;-;
most of my underworld
anyone think this last bit of black has it in?
tyvm
arent the phaseblades just a worse version of the muramasa
Unraveling people on Twitter is like shooting fish in a barrel, but it's still kinda fun to do sometimes.
Even the hardmode versions suck.
#archive-ltp might.
oh sorry
Q: what armour would you remove and why
uh
I dont really know
turtle scalemail
because bad
I dont actually know what it does other than have less defense
never really cared about it
Spider.
spider is amazing what do you mean
Amazing(ly bad.)
good for summoners at the start of hardmode
Or, they can just keep using Obsidian.
im sad
why
I didnt know the shield of cthulhu was an expert drop
Ovuvuevuevue Enyetuenwuevue Ugbemugbem Osas
so now I have no mobility in normal
and I havent found hermes boots
I have beaten skeletron and eoc though
find some lava and fill 1-3 buckets then put one bucket each in 25x1 block trenches, build some platforms 20 blocks above those pits and you’re ready to fight king slime. assuming you have fledgling wings or a hook
Honorable mentions for Chlorophyte and five of the six hardmode ores.
god i hate how slow you are when you start a new game
it all becomes soo much better
sup
yeah
hey
I actually like it, not for traveling, mind, but because the enemies aren't impossible to deal with using actual melee either.
no sunfury 🥲
Seed?
who needs boots when you can hoik across the entire world
When you're picking the world, there's a hover for the seed.
Ok
I can't actually check right now though, not at home.
I have no idea why they didn't guarantee shadow chest loot like they did Dungeon and Floating Island, on that note. I have seen seeds that genuinely didn't spawn with Sunfury but like 3 Shadow Lances.
lol
I've gotten about
4 fire flowers 5 lances 2-3 mimic pets 1-2 imp pets and if theres something else probably about 3
mimic pets?
jeez ahahas
poor you
hol’up
yep
1 sec ima need to wiki this
I mean, at least you can lava fish up Shadow Lockboxes to get Sunfury. It's just bullshit that you have to.
yeah
they should guarantee all shadow chest loot
so you dont have to fish/make a new world
i had enough its time to cheese EoL
Dungeon will have everything but Handgun. Rarely.
its a good thing I bought the sitting duck fishing pole literally 15 minutes ago
Like. You're more likely to get a SiaB pyramid on a small world than not have a Handgun in the same world tier rare.
SiaB?
Sandstorm in a Bottle.
do sword shrines still spawn with those tunnels?
actually
Should, but often don't.
Oh
I don't know what happened to world gen to frequently not.
But my JMMFTW seed had the tunnel?
I don’t need the swords for attacking but the terragrim is nice for the goblin summoners and imps
also if I don’t have a sword shrine my world gen is messing with me fr
the only thing my surface had was an oasis
K.
whats the best crafting room setup, also is there a discord bot which can monitor dedicated server status
i had to kill the emprees 4 TIMES FOR THE KALIRDOSCOPE
thank god only once in day
anyone need starlight , magic wepon , or the bow
imma sleep for now
before i go should i keep the dark harvest + kaliedoscope?
or just the kalidoscope

anyone got blackspot/flying dutchman mount ill give slime staff and jungle key and pirate staff and 3 unicorn statues for it?
I killed her once and got it
Also for some reason her butterfly thing spawned in right after I killed her 5 TIMES IN A ROW
Good evening, I finally returned to the PC ver of Terraria
can anyone give me an aglet
If you're giving up that easily on low tier chest loot, just Terrasavr.
is there a way to get the scourge of the corruptor on a crimson world? ive odne about everything corrupt related on my crimson world using an artificial corrupt, even got every corrupt mimic drop
Scourge is a world gen biome chest spawn, you won't get it elsewhere.
ha floppa
i dont think so, you may get the key but the dungeon generates the corresponding evil chest. So if you have a crimsoned then the corrupt chest won't show up.
Hafta make a corruption world and beat Plantera on it to get the weapon.
Bruh my world is 96% carmin
Anyone got seedler?
I'm sure plenty of people farmed Plantera and got it.
Bone Serpents? But why though?
A mod? #terraria-modded
Yeah but the mob is a vanilla mob
Fair. If you're really talking about Bone Serpents and not "Bone worms". Anyway, luck didn't exist in 1.3 so it's just a matter of increasing spawn rates, like every mob farm.
okay, and sorry for Bone Serpent, 1, i don't know the name 2 im not good at all in english
Ask them to start over with a drunk world?
The French terraria server is actually a chatting server, not a terraria server :/
So question; if it's been a hot minute since you last visited a world and you don't remember what bosses have been iced there, is there a way to find out that doesn't involve opening the file in TEdit?
Oh? Wouldn't know.
...maybe there's an idea for a mod...
~~just check your hall of relics
~~

with shrimpy truffle if i take damage will i have faster mobility?
It's not 'on damage' it's 'missing health%'
Or you could just use bubbles and do the same thing at full health.
No
Low Health = More Damage From you
Water = Movement Speed
false because when it isnt raining and I take damage i go faster sometimes
That's not right either.
Being under half health is the same as being 'wet' via rain or touching water.
I think it's just inflicting the wet debuff
it has the same effect
Conclusion: Kain’s usually right
Don't tell me that.
Put it in ||Spoilers|| if anything.
on my pc

me too goals
yeah couuuuursee
Hey can someone help me
how so
add me on steam
I can't find my terraria files on my mac
I downloaded it through steam
But I can't find my player file
are u trying to terrasavr?
I bet Google would've helped.
Yea
whats your steam name lahd
What doesn't?
Terrasavr
Already watched a bunch Of videos..
pupa is outdated on Mac
Nah it's just that I can't find my player files
Terrasavr keeps outdated versions.
i cant for some reason
u cant find them on Mac anymore
Nice.
@potent loom if u want to get a item on Mac u have to use a all items world
Could I save to cloud on my windows PC and it will show up on my Mac?
The solution, then, is to emulate a real PC and not play on Mac's OS. 
won’t show up on mac
u can play on windows and then terrasavr there then swap back to Mac after
Ooh I just have to save to cloud then?
Or this.
idk might work never tried
But yeah all items world is a lot easier
nice
I though only softcore players could join that
depends what world u download but if your doing medium core or hardcore just why
look it up on YouTube or smthn
i was a little pissed tho
right after i killed WoF 2 times
i spread hollow seeds
and then THE TWINS JUST SPAWN
sorry don’t follow
wut
well it said u know "its gonna be a terrible night" so i knew it was one of the 3 bosses
nah it was just really bad luck
not really but uh ok
?
terrible night is normal
yeah i know its normal but right after the WoF is just like bruh
it happens every few nights when I played before I beat mech bosses
oh well
But same day?
Embed fail?
either way, Don't Starve already pushed out their date
Okay.
I assume Terraria has the same release date
so the new crossover update should be on the I8th
If so it'll be in #terraria-announcements soon enough.
:o
o
as for the graphic, I cant show it xD
1.4.3
the new crossover that showed Deerclops on the ice biome
Literally only had to click that channel link.
its most likely more than just Deerclops
just like DD2 was more than just one thing
(And scroll up a little, I guess.)
That won't happen, even without.
joke = gone
I'm kinda glad he never existed on PC, tbh.
im glad he existed on mobile
ocram was class on console
cuz honestly it was a pretty good fight for how many weapons u had to use
on 1.2
it was on mobile too
play modded for epic ice bosses
Him and the two other low effort holiday bosses.
yeah ik about modded
cryogen :)
ya good idea
i played 6 years of 1.2 mobile
and so
i got stuck on 1.4 and what to do
but now im making some progress again
and there it is
Captain Obvious is good at being obvious, obviously. 
hi
Thursday, huh
wowie ok
Wonder if I should hold off the playthrough until the update comes out

heh Friday for me

Post-fishron (pre mech) sounds good to see the update
Will it really change much? Probably not.
That's depending on where the crossover event is
If they don't fix or balance anything, then the other 90% of the playthrough will remain unchanged anyway.
if they nerf any of the epic items it sad
I'm hoping they have items that fill in some gaps. Especially for Summoner.
DST Hardmode Whip armor? 
Another whip armor would be cool
And actively talking about it right before you posted that.
I didn't look there lmao, I just saw it on twitter and decided to send it
Although that would require some major balancing to the already existing one, right?
I wasn't reading this chat lmao I was doing my home work lol
I did, I am probably gonna spend most of my weekend playing terraria, and trying to relearn how to play don't starve because I have not played that in 2 years lmao
Out of the nearly 3k games I have, DS/T is not one.
hm
what is the best pre-moon lord mage armor?
1.4 buffed Dark Artist. I'd say that.
hello
Good for pure mage?
Asking out of curiousity since it's the name of my current game
If you're looking at PURE Mage then sure, Spectre is better.
But knowing its a hybrid armor I'm gonna assume it's best with minions
I could use both
Dropping 4 damage sources and buffing the single minion you'll probably still have is still the optimal way to use said armor, but it's still really strong.
Given non-pure playthrough that forbids those things.
I've been planning on hybrid runs since I like using some OOA armors
nebula or maybe even spectre
Pre.
Just gotta get through a self inflicted quota before then
Happens.
Try #archive-ltp

Then edit the message.
collab drops on november 18, interesting
Oh good, I was hoping we'd get back to that.
Then edit your message
I have virtually no idea of what DST is like so I'll let myself be surprised
left half seems to be DST things we’ll get in terraria
abagail seems interesting
i wonder what they plan on doing with that
I can already see it - the thing with the axe is gonna be the worst enemy in the event
Oh
also there’s not really a way to tell but it’s not confirmed if it’s an event
ngl dst content would fit better not being an event
also what’s up with lunar portal
it was put in DD2 as well
even though lunar portal sucks and nobody likes it
Yeah, we can see #terraria-announcements
i screenshat it and put it here for reference
it’s easier to comment on it without moving back and forth begween channels
But we're already talking about it.
yes, but it’s easier to refer to specific things in the image if it’s already here
like the left side
or the axe
Whatever, this is what I should expect when announcements are announced, they gotta vibe a dozen times before people get it.

it’s simply more convenient and i don’t see why that should be shat on
as in going back and forth between channels every time someone points something out or every time you want to reference a specific part of the image
why so pedantic
Probably the part where you're assuming we wouldn't be talking about it.
giving away free zeniths because i have too many
aye i want one
@warm spindle
sure
but idk how i jus started playin on pc
i play on ps4 more
ok
This looks like DM material.
yo guys
how do imake a bed in terraria?
and also
if one of the npcs died but lives in my house, does it reappear there?
where do i find that
and i have understood that a speciak bench is needed
If there's an open house another will spawn.
Yo I used to be a mobile player but imma man now but 1 problem, ion know how to play on PC so someone tell me some important buttons and stuff
Anyone with a spare lava charm
yay beat moon lord!
Noice
can anyone help me get more duplication options on journey mode pls
Tem brasileiro?
Use Terrasavr
whats that
Look it up
ok
Google, what is Google?
I'm trying to open a dungeon chest but it won't open for some reason
And yes I have a dungeon key
You click on the gear in the journey mode menu. then you have to get the right amount to duplicate, example: 100 timbers to duplicate, 400 wooden walls to duplicate. if you got the right amount put it in the square and press "search", I don't remember.
who should i fight after king slime and does anybody wanna play together?
Golden Chests need Golden Keys
Biome Chests need their respective Biome Key and a dead-Plantera
Eye of Cthulhu
I have to kill planters first?
Or just click “research all items”
Ye
Eater Of Worlds/Brain Of Cthulhu
All Biome Chests
anyone wanna make a new world?
where can i find eater of worlds
in the purple boime
Google, what is Google?
what if u dont have that biome?
alr
Thorium or calamity for first mod walkthrough?
I've got these shadow keys from dungeon (left side) and gold keys but nothing to unlock and I come across these chests I can't open as require types of keys I don't have. Am I missing something? I can't find any more areas to explore. Pre-hardmode
Golden Chests (In Dungeon) - Golden keys
Biome Chests (Colourful chests in the dungeon) - Biome Keys
Shadow Chests (In Hell) - Shadow Key
Hell?
Hell
is this pre-hardmode?
A whole new area doesn’t jsut appear in Hardmode
I've never played that far so
The only new world stuff is T h e V
I've only just completed the dungeon
And?
well I'm left with keys I don't know what to do with... described above
no clarify my status
Choose a class
Get gear
Beat any remaining bosses
Go to hell
Beat wall
Hardmode
anyone got some armor for me
Your crafting table
;-; my friend rob my armor
Delete the friend
;-;
Getting one pair of Ice skates be like
oh mb
Fire Imp, am I in Hell?
Yep
hell has bathtubs?
Yep
Think I'm breaking into an Imp's house
Anyone know what time of the day terraria typically updates at?
well, I'm not lava-proof ☠
4:09 AM and 33 seconds
when the bug is interesting
poop
ok
tbh daytime eol is almost impossibke without soaring insignia
well if you're incredibly good with the patterns you could fight it without soaring insignia
but tbh why would you want to
just dodge 😎 dies to lances
can someone explain how to install calamity
@ember gyro do you have tmod loader
yes
then you have to launch it
i did
?
tmod > mod browser > 5th option in image
Hm..
Oof
No hallwoed basically
I did save my world before doing WoF
maybe I can roll the dice again?
maybe it isn't so bad, Jungle infused w/ Hallow isn't a bad thing
Just hard to get Hallowed anything
well I have the Jungle hellevator right by there
just dropping down there to get hallow blocks or souls of light isn't the worst thing
greater concern is the crimson that's sitting above my forest + cavern bases
At least it was mostly in a pre-existing crimson
That moment when you get plumber's hat when trying to get obsidian rose
if I increase the size of my surrounding hellevator in the forest/cavern and distance it away from the crimson, I can prevent those biomes from corruption and I won't have to use TEdit to fix my problems (again)
Hahayes
When you try to get bananarangs but get two trifold maps instead
what boss do i fight after the brain?
Queen Bee
how do i get pictures like these for my world?
alright, decided I won't use TEdit, I'll separate the cavern and forest from the Crimson, then I'm going after Queen Slime
TEdit
alr ty
I'm using TEdit
oh right, I can't do Queen Slime, I still need the damn emblem 
The crimson is slanted?
The winter wonderland is on the edge?
There are no oceans?
The Temple is on the edge of the jungle?
There are sky islands in an unusual order?
There is no hell?
This is a trimmed photo?! OMG!
Actually thought this was funny sorry XD
The Temple is on the edge of the jungle?
Not anymore!
Lol
The Crimson is slanted?
That’s Hardmode
The winder wonderland is on the edge?
Crop
There are no oceans?
Crop
The Temple is on the edge of the jungle?
Yes, that’s common
There are sky islands in an unusual order?
They’re RNG
There is no hell?
Crop
Farms
hm?
Grinders
How do I make one
look it up
Y....Yeah... I mentioned I knew it was trimmed



