#terraria-pc

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last gull
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And how would invulnerability not?

scarlet blaze
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Cuz you already have enough health

last gull
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You already don't die regularly, it just means you're less concerned about it

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Look I gtg for like 40 min, but I'd love to talk about this more after

scarlet blaze
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Nothing is gonna kill you in any post game activity

tiny badge
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Not that there's much that can kill you. Even Day EoL can be taken down very quickly with Star Wrath, Terrarian, SDMG, Last Prism and CeleMk2.

scarlet blaze
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Yeah

wheat ledge
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i'd make the argument that the lack of unlimited health could be for pvp purposes

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if you had infinite health pvp is nonexistent

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but i don't work at relogic so can't really speak for them

scarlet blaze
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Yeah I didn’t really get much time to think about why

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I know now what I’d say

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But it’s kinda pointless now

mild charm
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does somebody have a server that i can play in?

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kinda new

scarlet blaze
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Cuz I don’t care enough about this to come back in 40 minutes lol

valid ocean
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how to trigger a goblin army

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is it just random?

tiny badge
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Use the Goblin Battle Standard, crafted with Tattered Cloth and Wood.

valid ocean
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alr

last gull
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Cuz I don’t care enough about this to come back in 40 minutes lol
Your loss I guess.
Nothing is gonna kill you in any post game activity
This is the point exactly, has no substantial impact, so there's no reason not to, it just makes it guaranteed as opposed to very unlikely.

strange horizon
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Vanilla players arguing about balance is funny AF because modded is unbalanced asf

last gull
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Yeah, modded is so bad lol

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And I say that as a modder, myself, so we're clear; I'm guilty of the same problem, but I most certainly think to a lower degree than whatever the nightmare that vanilla is in its current state

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Mods are also third-party software, and I would think generally get more flexibility of whatever they want to do with content balance.
There are a lot of "big sword go woosh" mods out there, for example.

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tbh I've thought about making an encompassing mod that offers toggle-able balance and behaviour changes. Enough things in Vanilla that just gross me out currently that it's somehow worth more time to me to rewrite most of the AI and content behaviour than it is to just put up with current state.

timber turtle
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oml my world has to be broken or smth

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theres no way ive done this many pumpkin moons and havent gotten one horsemans blade

last gull
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RNG for you. You're sure you're killing the right enemy and/or hitting the right wave(s)?

timber turtle
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im getting to wave 15 and 16 almost every time

last gull
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and 16?
Edit: 1.4.4 change, ok. I'm not sure what I expected to be honest.

iron glade
timber turtle
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the pumpkings just arent dropping them 🥲

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timber turtle
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lost count but probably around 15-20

iron glade
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damn

tiny badge
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Seedler and Influx Waver as well.

timber turtle
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i actually got influx waver really easily

timber turtle
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meowmere took a few tries to get but ive been going at this for days 🥲

tiny badge
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Star Wrath though? 16.

timber turtle
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i was the opposite

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i got so many star wraths it was getting annoying

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then i finally got meowmere

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at least moonlord is pretty quick to kill

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getting to wave 15 takes forever

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if i put water candles will it increase the pumpkin moon enemy spawn rate?

last gull
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It should.

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Do you have a proper spawning platform for pmoon?

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I found often that having a certain location designed for events helped with farming

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I mean, go figure, but actually though.

narrow hawk
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not sure how to describe this:
But when I try to change whips by changing with keybuttons. like 1 to 2.
But it doesn't change

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like let's say I'm going from snapthorn to spinal tap

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and I try to scroll down, or us keyboard

last gull
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You can't swap held items while you're still currently using one.

narrow hawk
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it doesn't

narrow hawk
last gull
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What do you mean by that?

narrow hawk
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If u are, how do you deal with it

last gull
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Please turn off reply pings, and.. that doesn't clear up anything.

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You have to stop using an item before you can switch to another.

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turbid portal
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Im a hungry one 😈

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who want play fixedboi 😈

last gull
narrow hawk
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this is what I wanted

strange horizon
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It's a single player game

trail musk
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OMG! I spent a lot of time gathering fishing materials prepared to spend a while searching for an Ancient Chisel in a Desert crate and I found one in the underground desert!

last gull
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Thanks dude, I love handicapping myself to make the game enjoyable

strange horizon
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Who gives a shit Abt balance

trail musk
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I'm glad I found it, but I'm annoyed because what am I supposed to do with all the bait in my inventory

last gull
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If I wanted to cheat, I'd install a client or mod to do so.

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:)

strange horizon
timber turtle
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my luck is seriously this bad

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this event sucks

plain roost
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nahh, thats skill issue

nimble silo
strange horizon
nimble silo
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no?

strange horizon
nimble silo
trail musk
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There's gotta be an easier way to obtain Vines than by killing Man Eaters, right?

dire flume
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yo someone ping looking to play part for me its gone

dull ravine
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someone want to do a mage playthrough on master mode with me?

sacred pier
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sure

trail wyvern
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guys why do i go slow motion when fighting deerclops

tiny badge
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Basically, you'll have to deal with Slow the whole fight.

trail wyvern
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alr

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another question

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my brother has this problem where steam games just don't open does anyone know how to fix this?

weary pagoda
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how often do you see a russian community in terraria discord?

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?

misty dagger
trail wyvern
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what

misty dagger
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Terraria has to install the xna framework before it can run

trail wyvern
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so how do i do that

surreal oasis
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Launch terraria as admin through its location on your drive I guess

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See where the game is stored and run it

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Should be a little application icon in your files

trail musk
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Didn't think I'd get my butt kicked by pre hardmode enemies fished up during a Blood Moon, but here we are

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Blood Moon fishing enemies are nasty.

trail musk
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Yeah... Learned that one the hard way... On a similar note, where's the best place to go fishing pre hardmode? I swear I never know where the best biome for that is...

tiny badge
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Depends on what item you want, as you can get different items by fishing in different biomes. Most of them also have unique Crates that contain that biome's chest items.

warm spindle
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man wtf i'm fighting skeletron and i get killed by a demon eye 🤦

zealous furnace
trail musk
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Hate when that happens...

trail musk
tiny badge
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You could set up Peace Candles or a box to prevent Eaters from harassing you.

gleaming sierra
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i have a question

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should i switch to mage or no?

solemn scroll
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yo can anyone help me build a base

trail musk
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Why can't I find Ebonkoi? I'm in the Corruption

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Official Wiki.

trail musk
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I'm using a natural pool of water in the underground corruption, with a Peace Candle keeping enemies away from me

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All I've found is basic stuff found fishing underground

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That and a Purple Clubberfish

glass summit
runic kelp
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hello i am new to terraria

solemn scroll
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nice

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welcome

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can anyone help me rq

foggy widget
scarlet blaze
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Welcome

pseudo matrix
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scarlet blaze
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.

foggy widget
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scarlet blaze
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somber saffron
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can sandstorms spawn while you're in the desert

scarlet blaze
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Probably

foggy widget
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Yes

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last time i checked any weather event can happen no matter where you are

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not like snow in hell

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but they can start no matter where you are

trail musk
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Is there an easier way to fish up Ebonkoi without finding other biome specific fish (since I've seen nothing but fish found underground)?

somber saffron
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I've been waiting for the past two days in the desert and it sucks

somber saffron
foggy widget
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also no

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you cant filter out the other fish you get

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I would recommend using a sonar potion though

trail musk
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So I guess I'm creating an artificial pond in the above ground corruption... Why are Wrath potions a pain to craft?

tiny badge
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Potions in general are. I just use Terrasavr to get a bunch because I can't be bothered to grind for herbs, especially Waterleaf, and my playthroughs are already way too long.

trail musk
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I already have a basic herb garden in the works, the other materials for certain potions will be a giant pain

foggy widget
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I just use potions i find in chests

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worked so far

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750 Hours on unmodded PC alone and I never once mae a herb garden

scarlet blaze
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About 300 hours on unmodded and I never once made one either

foggy widget
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I played for a long time but I dont think i put too many hours in

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especially compared to mr 25000+ hours

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but i did used to play back on xbox 360

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i remember i loved replaying the tutorial world

amber burrow
edgy leaf
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Boomstick or minishark?

flint bison
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Boomstick 90% of the time

amber burrow
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Depends on the boss
Minishark is better against low defence bosses or if the player has some armour penetration

coral halo
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*boomstick 100% of the time

last gull
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^ boomstick good.

flint bison
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sorry kep

coral halo
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*boomstick 101% of the time

spark tendon
iron lance
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Just started a new game

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like 30 mins in

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names derd164 on steam

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password's 1235

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if anyone wants to join and play

last gull
amber burrow
rough citrus
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hey does alt f4 close without saving?

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nm

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it does

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thank god

last gull
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[Alt]+[F4] should, yes.

unique vine
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i started to play with someone yesterday

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and they said new world

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but it was downloaded map with big mountains lol

last gull
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Minishark wins unless you hit 81.5%+ of boomstick bullets
What was your calculation process on this btw?

spark tendon
flint bison
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For minishark

amber burrow
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7.5 dps

flint bison
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and its effect on boomstick?

spark tendon
amber burrow
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But the double necklace combo can more or less negate the defence of anything you'd fight phm

flint bison
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No it gives 5 together

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5 penetration

spark tendon
flint bison
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lol

amber burrow
flint bison
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yea bee being dead, you’ve got bees knees at least and also molten fury / pewmatic most likely

spark tendon
last gull
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Going on wiki here;
Minishark has usetime of 8 (7.5/sec), 6 damage...

7.5 shots/sec * 6 damage/shot = 45 damage/sec (45dps)
Boomstick has usetime of 40 (1.5/sec), 14 damage (x3.5)
(1.5*3.5) shots/sec * 14 damage/shot = 73.5 damage/sec (73.5dps)

amber burrow
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Oh, I thought it was 3

spark tendon
last gull
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I'm ignoring bullet damage, you can apply addition to damage on your own

amber burrow
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So boomstick would win if you hit 93%+ of shots

last gull
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As it increases, minishark will outscale boomstick, but it would take a bit

spark tendon
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From what I have seen boomstick has around 30 degrees spread, which means that it is almost guaranteed to hit bosses like EoC and KS less than half a screen away

flint bison
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Wouldn’t minishark be a lot more heavily affected by defense SMH

bright moss
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🍿

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i should come over to this chat more often

last gull
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Defence is always something to consider, especially in "higher" difficulties (eg, expert/master)

spark tendon
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Keep in mind minishark also has spread, so it's not going to always hit where you aim either

coral halo
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boomstick clears

bright moss
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true

coral halo
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almost everything major has defense

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and most enemies have defense too

bright moss
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also it feels better to use

amber burrow
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I just did checked for EoC & skeleboi with necklace for both
Boomstick wins for both but minishark wins for BQ

Sooo, I think it'd make sense to use boomstick for EoC & minishark for BQ then switch to bee's knees for skeletron & go hellwing for WoF

coral halo
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also boom sound effect

flint bison
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Bq

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Burger queen

bright moss
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BQ?

coral halo
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bee queen?

bright moss
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real

amber burrow
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bee queen

flint bison
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There’s no way

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Classic?

bright moss
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why would you switch it around...,..

coral halo
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cthulhu of eye BossGolemTroll

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that doesn't make much sense unless classic mode

flint bison
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She gains defense as you get her lower hp unless you’re on classic

amber burrow
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It was on paper
What's the defence gain?

coral halo
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in my testing boomstick did around 36% better (this is with maximum gear at the time including party bullets)

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paper?!??!1

flint bison
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I hate paper stop killing trees

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goodbye planet killers

amber burrow
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Fks sake

bright moss
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so true....

trail musk
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I can only make two Wrath Potions right now...

amber burrow
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Aight, I forgot to account for the expert defence gain with BQ
Ig minishark kinda sucks against everything by comparison

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Plus the gold required for it is a bit of a headache compared to raiding a few jungle shrines
Minishark buff when NPCWhenTruffleGetsAtYou

flint bison
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if they give it natural armor penetration

amber burrow
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The musket beats it against EoC, King Slime, BQ, Skeletron
That's just sad

spark tendon
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Musket is actually not bad

amber burrow
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It literally only wins if fighting eater or 1st phase brain with meteor shot

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Wow

warm spindle
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For a weapon you can get within first 5 minutes I'd say it's pretty good, can kill all the prehardmode bosses decently fast, it good

last gull
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Musket very strong

warm spindle
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Yes it's very epic gun go pew

amber burrow
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3% more dps than minishark vs EoC
And the gap is even wider for skeletron & BQ

gloomy pendant
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Whats the best way to get the martian scanner thing to spawn

amber burrow
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Space above an ocean with water candle & battle potion

last gull
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Outer 2 thirds of the map, recommend sitting above Dungeon since it has some nice elevation and usually has a floating island above it

gloomy pendant
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Ok

last gull
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Increased spawns are beneficial, having lifeform analyzer will detect the probe being nearby iirc, in the event it spawns underneath you.

gloomy pendant
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Havent managed to snag that yet. I'll just look for it around

last gull
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Lifeform Analyzer is from TM Oh wait you mean the probe

amber burrow
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Water candle makes them 4x more common, very worth it

gloomy pendant
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Holy crap yes I have

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lol im dumb

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I meant lifeform analyzer lol

last gull
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aaa ambiguous pronouns always get me

amber burrow
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I can't find the spawnrate increase for probes when in space anywhere ;-;

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The wiki just says more common without a specific number

last gull
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Decompile Terraria ig

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Or here I might be able to find

gloomy pendant
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got one

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thanks guys

runic kelp
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hey guys i am new to terraria

azure crest
runic kelp
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is it a fun game

last gull
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Little late, 2D block game party ended Sep 28th of last year

runic kelp
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so what does that mean

round lintel
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If you drop 9999 voodoo dolls in the lava, many npcs will die, not just the guide. (At least in journey mode)

runic kelp
last gull
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Joined on the wrong update if you were looking for fun balanced game.
If you're looking for sparkles and shimmers I guess you're in the right place.

round lintel
last gull
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It's deliberate behaviour

runic kelp
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bro i dont even have a world yet

round lintel
quick cosmos
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its not a bug

runic kelp
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i like js now download it

last gull
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I just said that

round lintel
round lintel
runic kelp
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wait i have a question can people play muti player

last gull
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Yes, Terraria supports multiplayer

runic kelp
last gull
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You can select host and play from multiplayer select screen to play with your friends, or join them from an invite, ip, or through steam.
Alternatively, you can host or join a dedicated server

quaint jewel
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does anyone have 50 waterleaf plants]

runic kelp
quaint jewel
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my plants wont bloom

last gull
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does anyone have 50 waterleaf plants]
Download all-items world, use inventory editor tool to spawn them in, or join free items server.
"How?" -> Google, Workshop, [Ctrl]+[F]

runic kelp
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can u play with randoms

last gull
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Otherwise the closest you get is dedicated server hosts

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But let it be known most are not your standard vanilla playthrough experience

runic kelp
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okkk

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thank u

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can i add u stardust

last gull
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I'm gonna say no there bud

runic kelp
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ok js asking

civic swift
# amber burrow I can't find the spawnrate increase for probes when in space anywhere ;-;

not space, martians not defeated = approximately 1 in 100
not space, martians defeated = approximately 1 in 400
space, no water candle, martians not defeated = approximately 37 in 240
space, no water candle, martians defeated = approximately 1 in 30
space, water candle, martians not defeated = approximately 16 in 25
space, water candle, martians defeated = approximately 19 in 100

quick cosmos
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battle potion?

civic swift
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same chances per spawn attempt, battle potion just means more spawn attempts

quick cosmos
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ah k

last gull
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Interesting that wiki says water candle increases spawns by "nearly triple" but the smallest increase I see there is ~4x
ie...
37/240 (~15.4%) -> 16/25 (64%), by wiki: 111/240 (~46.3%), actual multiplier ~4.2x
1/30 (~3.3%) -> 19/100 (19%), by wiki: 3/30 (~10%). actual multiplier ~5.7x

gloomy pendant
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This car key is soooo good

hybrid flicker
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im legit depressed

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the only thing i dont want to do is to spent over 50 hours of my life doing the 250 angler quest achievement -_-

misty dagger
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How get gun

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Need get sand gun

hybrid flicker
gloomy pendant
misty dagger
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Needta get shooty boi to sell me gun parts

hybrid flicker
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shotty boi sell bad parts at night

misty dagger
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Yes but how do I get the generic gun

misty dagger
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I need to get shooty boi to sell me bad parts to make sand gun

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And I need gun to get shooty boi

hybrid flicker
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i havent seen grass in over 30Billion Hours

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im not sure it even exists

gloomy pendant
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It doesn't

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Trust me

hybrid flicker
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at least i hav terraria grass :/

last gull
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Supreme Helper Minion ach is such a flex lol

hybrid flicker
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ikr

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i dont even know why i want it

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but its the perfectionist/ bragger insde me

last gull
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also sad, but like..
woo, fishing..
Used to actually be useful

solemn scroll
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anyone got a guide doll im trying to do wall

hybrid flicker
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bro

flint bison
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used to be?

civic swift
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ultimate flex, lol

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hybrid flicker
civic swift
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fishing is still useful

sand kayak
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in a 1.4.4.9 world, is it possible for shimmer to just not spawn

hybrid flicker
flint bison
solemn scroll
sand kayak
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for the worthy

hybrid flicker
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for the worthy

solemn scroll
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???

hybrid flicker
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its a seed

last gull
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used to be?
Can just get 90% of the things players otherwise fished for

hybrid flicker
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go luk in wiki

hybrid flicker
sand kayak
solemn scroll
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dude i just want a doll to do fight

civic swift
hybrid flicker
sand kayak
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ive looked on terramap, dug for it myself, but i physically cannot find it

last gull
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By virtue of there being faster methods, it is less useful

hybrid flicker
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bro

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i still havt got the enchanted sundial/moondial

civic swift
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by 90% do you just mean lava charm and shiny red balloon?

hybrid flicker
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bcuz i didnt know it existed until my friend flexed his in my face

sand kayak
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can someone help me find shimmer on my world

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i can send you my full map

flint bison
last gull
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Lava Charm, Balloon, Radar, there are a few others hold on

flint bison
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It’s just blue

hybrid flicker
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u know

sand kayak
hybrid flicker
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there is a wierd thing

last gull
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Stool, Aglet

civic swift
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fishing for the surface chest loot was next to useless anyway

sand kayak
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like the little cave thing it spawns in isnt visible from what im seeing

flint bison
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Did you create the world before 1.4.4 and are just now on it?

sand kayak
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maybe im trippin

last gull
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Was good for poor rng or multiplayer

sand kayak
flint bison
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Because current version isn’t what matters

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Ah

hybrid flicker
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that ppl say that to reforge with no cost, throw ur reforging thing in shimmer, take the dissassembled parts and craft it again for a chance for a reforge

civic swift
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but even then, you had to do a lot of fishing for them

last gull
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Not really? I mean, a bit, but it was still the renewable source

sand kayak
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nevermind

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ur right

flint bison
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Oh

sand kayak
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i created before

hybrid flicker
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hm :/

sand kayak
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i just recently came back to the world i forgot

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thanks tho

last gull
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That's not to say fishing is entirely useless, just much more so now imo

hybrid flicker
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if u update, the map is the same but the features are added

gloomy pendant
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How do you summon the empress of light

sand kayak
hybrid flicker
last gull
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Wrong message?

hybrid flicker
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wrong message

last gull
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Weong message. Xd

hybrid flicker
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but u cant update the world

sand kayak
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ph

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oh

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ok

hybrid flicker
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u cant just overwrite world regen

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u have to create a new world, take the shimmer there and make a artificial one in ur old world

sand kayak
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just use a different world for shimmer

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doesnt matter to me

hybrid flicker
last gull
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upgrade to 1.4.3 tbh

hybrid flicker
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the only thing fishing if useful for is for then enchanted sword

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and the enchanted sundial/moondial

last gull
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That's fair, I would generally agree with that sentimate.

hybrid flicker
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also

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what is the drop rate of the influx waver?

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im getting depressed farming for it

last gull
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1/7 I think?

hybrid flicker
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is there 7 other drops and one must drop

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or just

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1/7

last gull
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7 total drops

gloomy pendant
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what drops the space minigun

hybrid flicker
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uhhhh

last gull
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Laser Machinegun is saucer

hybrid flicker
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liek the laser miningun?

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cuz no space minigun

last gull
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wait no 1/9, forgot blaster cannon and drill

gloomy pendant
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ok lol my bad

last gull
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me when message deleted because ???

coral halo
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1/6 drop chance

last gull
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Were drops moved in 1.4.4?

coral halo
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xenopopper, xeno staff, laser machinegun, electrosphere launcher, influx waver, and car key are dropped from the martian saucer

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laser drill, anti grav hook and charged blaster cannon from enemies in the event

last gull
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No way

gloomy pendant
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im just bad at this guy lol

coral halo
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they were moved in 1.4.0.1 according to wiki

last gull
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:l

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Why were they moved D:
Blaster cannon made sense on saucer even

coral halo
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good question

last gull
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Like drill and hook I can see. I liked hook, but okay, it was upsetting for all the impatient melee users to get hook/drill instead of influx and only influx, whatever.
But blaster cannon too??

flint bison
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Anti mage propaganda

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No more love for the devs tbh

last gull
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Honestly!

coral halo
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as a mage enjoyer this is good since I can farm both weapons easier

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like kill enemies for the blaster cannon while waiting for saucers to get machinegun

last gull
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Doesn't that mean less saucers per invasion though?

twin cypress
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Bro I just got a slime stick

last gull
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Oh wait nvm they screwed that, I forgot

twin cypress
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Or staff

viscid zenith
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does anyone know if there is a builder's workshop for calamity mod?

acoustic falcon
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my friend is having an issue where tmodloader wont even launch idk if its a steam thing or tmodloader, he tried verifying files, reinstalling the game and restarting steam. anyone know?

tender willow
solemn scroll
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does anyone have a drill mount i can get

last gull
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my friend is having an issue where tmodloader wont even launch idk if its a steam thing or tmodloader, he tried verifying files, reinstalling the game and restarting steam. anyone know?
Very specifically, close and re-open Steam.
For some reason, Steam made an update that's just causing chaos everywhere with opening applications. You should also be able to open from local files (right click on game, browse local files, find Terraria.exe)

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does anyone have a drill mount i can get
Download all-items world, use inventory editor tool to spawn them in, or join free items server.
"How?" -> Google, Workshop, [Ctrl]+[F]

viscid zenith
civic bluff
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yo anyone got a all item world

last gull
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Have you considered: scrolling? Using Google (or your preferred search engine/browser)? How about the Steam Workshop? And how darest I forget about the holy one, [Ctrl]+[F].

lone sedge
#

is there a reason why my lihzahrd power cell dont work at the altar???

vagrant copper
#

does anyine here got sea of thieves

last gull
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is there a reason why my lihzahrd power cell dont work at the altar???
Needs to be post-plantera, otherwise shouldn't be any restrictions. Make sure you're interacting with altar instead of trying to use item like normal.

humble mirage
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Just wondering is giant harpy featehr one of the statue drops or not?

halcyon gate
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anyone nee dhelp with anything

west cloud
quick marsh
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help me, why terraria crash when i put a door?

ivory mortar
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yo will plantera bulbs spawn if background walls are placed?

shy leaf
#

oi

foggy flare
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anyone wanna show me their builds_

last gull
split mulch
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hey i've been having trouble getting rats to spawn in my graveyard??? every other graveyard mob is spawning except the rat. I've tried standing with a water candle and moving the biome closer to town, but still no rats 😦 any ideas?

hybrid flicker
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go luk it up

hybrid flicker
flint bison
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Sorry not helping

split mulch
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i've already checked out the wiki, didn't find any answers on why it's not spawning there, that's why i'm asking here lol

flint bison
#

Uhh

hybrid flicker
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ive never seen a rat too :/

#

ru doing 100% bestiary?

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for universal pylon

split mulch
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trying to lmao

hybrid flicker
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hm :/

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also btw is town slimes part of the bestiary?

split mulch
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already at 89% but the rat is just bothering me

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and yeah they are

last gull
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It's just rng. Gotta just keep watching

hybrid flicker
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when u just touch a critter is it logged into the bestiary?
]

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or do u hav to kill/catch

split mulch
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you have to catch it/kill it

hybrid flicker
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brooooooo

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ive been wondering why my bestiary has been in 95%

last gull
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Odd, feel like I've gotten or seen a lot of entries that don't involve that

hybrid flicker
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me with guide to critter companionship -_-

last gull
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Maybe just Terraria being jank, wouldn't be the first time

split mulch
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LMAO its a love/hate relationship with that thing tbh

hybrid flicker
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the only reason i use it is cuz i dont wanna accedentaly trigger EOL

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accidentally*

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bcuz im using the zenith and its jank

split mulch
hybrid flicker
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does it?

split mulch
hybrid flicker
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bcuz im pretty sure that i didnt get any entries from running around seahorses

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:/

formal rivet
#

can we all agree that the crimson is more terrifying than the corruption?

hybrid flicker
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ye

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but legit when u have the zenith both is just lame

quartz junco
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yo do i need to dig tunnels all the way to hell to stop the corruption spreading?

hybrid flicker
#

ig

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if ur corruption is bad enough

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3 blocks wide

formal rivet
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corruption is like "oooo welcome to the spookhouse fam"
and crimson is like "LEAVE, or DIE."

split mulch
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more scary, yes, but not as annoying as the beginning of the game falling in the holes in corruption

formal rivet
hybrid flicker
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i like to keep 30 super heals an 30 poison flasks on me at all times

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also

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i need a opinion

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best flask?

formal rivet
#

depending how bad you think the spread got

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if its not that bad, just dig until you dont see purple, with 3 blocks wide of space

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6, if you dont trust the 3

split mulch
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lol my world is just filled with tunnels to hell to stop the spread

last gull
#

best flask?
Depends. Damage, Ichor or Venom.
Utility? Nanites or Gold.

formal rivet
hybrid flicker
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my dryad is going insane everytime she sees my 37% crimson and 23% hallow XD

split mulch
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HEY I GOT A RAT fucking FINALLY

hybrid flicker
#

half my world is basically ded

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atleast i can get both shards tho :/

formal rivet
split mulch
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i got my crimson down to 6% and hallow is at 8% but i cant fully get rid of them yet bc i still need to finish my stupid fishing quests

formal rivet
#

do you have like

split mulch
formal rivet
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an exact idea where all of the stuff is

formal rivet
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t h r o w h e r i n t o i t .

last gull
#

actually a good point, maybe dryad blessing should have purifying effects

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Maybe something to mod in.

split mulch
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that might actually be cool, put her in between biomes to stop or slow the spread

last gull
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On the subject of NPCs affecting tiles, I should make painter paint his house every now and then >:)

west cloud
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theres the pylon mod that helps purify the area if you give it purifying powder

hybrid flicker
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in ur opinion

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wats the most useless NPC

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imo its the pirate

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he sells absolute BS

last gull
#

Town NPC or just NPC in general?

hybrid flicker
#

any NPC

stable pike
formal rivet
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stylist definitely

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shes serves no purpose

hybrid flicker
stable pike
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Pirate also has a dope ass shimmer

hybrid flicker
hybrid flicker
stable pike
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Pirate probably my favorite Npc

hybrid flicker
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wtf do u need a cannon for tho -_-

stable pike
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Eol

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Auto farms

hybrid flicker
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u can legit use 2 buckets of lava

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to make a permanent farm

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u have to buy cannonballs for the cannon

stable pike
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Ask stardust about useless npcs

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They’ll say town slimes

hybrid flicker
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@last gull

stable pike
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Last time they made a paragraph

last gull
#

The slimes I guess take cake for #1 most useless bpc

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*npc

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Yeah lol

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Stupid slimes

hybrid flicker
#

RoD or Slime staff

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if u had to pick one and u dont have either

last gull
#

But uh, prob jungle mimic for 2nd most useless

hybrid flicker
last gull
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It is an NPC, you did not specify any restrictions

hybrid flicker
#

no i mean

stable pike
hybrid flicker
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if it were

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yea

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but i just use the constant for pylons

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bcuz there is no happieness

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happyness

stable pike
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Happiness

last gull
#

I thought that was inverted seed feature, not dst seed?

hybrid flicker
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oh

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it is?

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like

stable pike
hybrid flicker
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dongdigup?

stable pike
split mulch
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way back when terraria first came out on mobile, i had a world where i just... kept getting slime staffs?? i had like 8 of them in a chest and started selling them bc i had no idea they were rare since i just kept getting them lol

stable pike
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Celebration and getfixedboi

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Those are the 2 seeds

hybrid flicker
#

oh

last gull
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I said special seeds who mentioned dst
Guy said dst seed for no happiness, I'm pretty sure it's inverted seed that does that

stable pike
#

DST seed is fun

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Also what inverted seed

last gull
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The upside down one.

stable pike
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Don’t dig up?

last gull
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There is one seed that specifically fits that criterion, I don't know how to help you

stable pike
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I’m leaving

stable pike
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Gfb

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Gn

split mulch
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oh wow

last gull
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Combo seed doesn't count because it's just the effects of all others

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That aside, having it all seed-locked is ridiculous. Why not have them as world customisation options like difficulty?
I'm well aware a mod exists for it, but why is that not vanilla tbh

wintry moth
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I'm doing another Terraria playthrough, this time without Journey mode.

Which class should I go as?

I like summoner but I want to try something new.

humble lion
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Melee

last gull
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Depends on the experience you want.
Summoner and Mage are generally going to be a reasonable experience.
Melee will be playing on easy mode.

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Ranged is.. kind of between the 2

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Magic tends to be pretty diverse in its available items at a given stage, and if you enjoyed playing summoner, I think it's a good choice, since you'll already have had the experience dodging attacks as a summoner.

humble lion
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Ranged leans more toward "easy mode" than melee tbh

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Melee is powerful but the game tends to favor the run and gun strat

last gull
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They're both pansy little "run away and shoot at the enemy" classes

humble lion
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As are the other 2 as well

potent current
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important skills

last gull
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True, but the other 2 also have the lowest defence stats generally speaking, and the mana limitation for mages tends to encourage resource management

potent current
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most importantly dodging

last gull
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And I know you're going to be "oh look at this piece of armour from a melee set that still works for other classes," because we've done this song and dance, and I'm tired of trying to argue why an item that goes with a particular class set very specifically fits with that class, and not another one.

potent current
last gull
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Talking about me?

humble lion
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Melee only has the run and gun strat for a few weapons and they sort of get less common the further you go in the game
It tends to favor a close range semi-tank playstyle, which you can then of course alter to maximise dps and lean more towards that run and gun strat, or a tank build, and that's pretty straightforward

last gull
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I'm probably the most anti-zenith person you can find in this server lol

potent current
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gigachad sniper rifle user

humble lion
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Terrible one too

last gull
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Wait fr, was that someone else? shoot my bad

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Melee only has the run and gun strat for a few weapons and they sort of get less common the further you go in the game
What is "the further you go in the game" referring to here?

humble lion
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Early on in the game there are a lot of boomerangs for example, and in pre mech you have things like shadowflame knives for example
As you progress these melees start to get less common as the highest dps melees or most useful ones tend to be more "melee" to some extent
With exception to a few like the vampire knives

potent current
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ranger class on top ngl

last gull
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Ah, sure. The items get additional "melee" hitboxes (quotes on that because it's almost never the item melee hitbox sadly)

potent current
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or thrower

humble lion
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The reworked melees also had their projectiles reworked to they feel less ranger-esque I guess

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But they completely forgot about influx waver

last gull
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Idk, they feel more magic to me than they did before melee changes

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Large AoE + held projectile

humble lion
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Hey as long as you're not using said projectile at a very long range, it's still a lot less ranger than the ranger class

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Better than before at least

last gull
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I mean, sure, but how far away do ranged weapons usually get fired? Like, say, across the screen ish?

potent current
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it drops overtime if u shoot high enough

split mulch
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i just use everything... i have full stardust armor, zenith, and i also use bows and magic

last gull
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Bows, sure. Guns and rockets, not so much

potent current
last gull
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Zenith outclasses literally everything, I'm not sure how you're surprised there.

potent current
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terraprisma build or smth

potent current
split mulch
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lmao idek, i didnt realize people just pick a class and stick with it, i just use whatever i think is best

last gull
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lol true

split mulch
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or whatever i think is cooler, depends

humble lion
last gull
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The heldproj hitbox, yeah. Still looking at night's edge, influx, terra, hatchet, death sickle, all yoyos, gungnir, etc with long-range or long-lifetime projectiles.

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Excal/True Excal are.. generally okay. I wish the range was a little shorter, and maybe they shouldn't infinitely pierce (idk, have pierce mechanics like unholy arrows or smth), but otherwise, I am okay with that change.

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Horseman's blade also, sorry*

humble lion
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Nah I like the infinite pierce
After all, swords do slash through stuff

last gull
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Then change damage or something, because you look at the other 3 classes around the same progression, they don't have inf pierce without drawbacks

hybrid flicker
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yea

humble lion
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While melee is more close range and crowd control

hybrid flicker
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melee is the only class that can afford to get close

last gull
#

But I don't think melee wants to get close is the issue

hybrid flicker
#

well

last gull
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It can still play pretty far away

humble lion
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Getting close is the point of melee

hybrid flicker
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most melee just are to afraid

#

as a melee

last gull
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Believe me, I want yo agree with you

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*to

hybrid flicker
#

well

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relogic rly influenced melee

last gull
#

And melee can absolutely tank everything like nobody's busniess

flint bison
hybrid flicker
#

rince the solar weapons are both ranged "melee"

last gull
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That's fair, star cannon

flint bison
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Solar eruption doesn’t have that muchh range idk

hybrid flicker
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as a melee

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i choose north pole over christmas tree sword

flint bison
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But javelin moment

hybrid flicker
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bcuz im a wimp

flint bison
humble lion
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I like tanking i particular and goin close range where possible

last gull
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I think what melee suffers from is the way Terraria's combat is designed, it has constant hitboxes, which makes actual melee confrontation less desirable.
And, I'd like a way, other than giving melee this stupid huge AoE thing, and other than rewriting all the AI, to make this less of an issue.
And so, even if melee performs best when really close (does it even? I think the projectile iframes interfere with each other, no?), the game itself encourages running away.

hybrid flicker
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do u think that its strange that i prefer turtle armor over beetle

humble lion
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I got ML's deathbeam down to a mere 58 damage in expert ftw lol

hybrid flicker
flint bison
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Appearance?

hybrid flicker
#

thorns

humble lion
flint bison
#

Oh

hybrid flicker
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bcuz

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like i saifd

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im a wimp pwp

humble lion
hybrid flicker
#

true nights edge or terrablade?

humble lion
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Turtle has 15% damage resistance

flint bison
#

Terra

last gull
#

Terra is just better now, TNE had its damage reduced below Terra iirc

humble lion
flint bison
#

By a lot

last gull
#

Also, large, fast, high-dmg AoE

hybrid flicker
flint bison
#

No

last gull
#

Disagree, Terra was great pre-1.4.4

hybrid flicker
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it only fired 1 sword beam

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imean the damage is great

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and piercing

flint bison
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Hard to hit the projectile is more accurate

hybrid flicker
#

but the amount of projectiles and area was meh

humble lion
hybrid flicker
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well they did buff teh area

last gull
#

"oh no melee got less projectile, what ever shall I do"
"oh wait, that was down a patch"

hybrid flicker
last gull
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Yes, that is why I said it, because that is what you sound like right now

hybrid flicker
#

ik

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ppl say that im dont get melee class

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and i dont

last gull
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Yeah, I can see why

hybrid flicker
#

🙂

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but i prefer summoner over melee

last gull
#

See, the idea is close-range combat.
Projectiles, by definition, are basically not that

hybrid flicker
#

stardust dragon or cell

last gull
#

Terraria uses projectile rather leniently (things like Arkhalis and Terragrim being projectiles makes it sound like they have a long rangez when it's more accurate just to say they're not "melee")

#

stardust dragon or cell
Honestly, I just hate dragon. I'm well aware it's actively stronger now, but it's got stupid AI, and it gets in the way for building.

hybrid flicker
#

imo

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i prefer cell

flint bison
#

And fishing

last gull
#

Dragon has better CC

flint bison
#

Huh.

last gull
#

Each segment hits as it passes through enemies

bold lichen
#

dragon is definitely more fun though

hybrid flicker
last gull
#

It has pierce, which is just innately good for CC

hybrid flicker
#

but the flaw with using dragon for cc is

flint bison
#

But it focuses one enemy often so the pierce is rarely used

#

Right?

hybrid flicker
flint bison
#

Well maybe I’ve been living a lie

hybrid flicker
#

but if u play pure summoner

last gull
#

I think a lot of people have been lol, I regularly have people tell me cell staff better for crowds, and have to explain dragon CC

humble lion
#

For fights I prefer cell
If I'm doing anything that doesn't involve fighting, then I go for dragon

bold lichen
humble lion
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Since it attacks through blocks

hybrid flicker
last gull
#

Yes it targets one enemy, but it's not always the best about targetting, say, the closest. This means the segments often pass through other enemies multiple times

bold lichen
#

yeah

hybrid flicker
#

also

#

for the dragon is it body contact damage or head only

last gull
#

Everything

humble lion
#

All segments

hybrid flicker
#

oh

#

optical staff or desert tiger staff?

last gull
#

And since all segments have local iframes, it's just better, sadly

humble lion
#

Which is the reason why it's either gonna be amazing in boss fights or a downright liability

bold lichen
#

dragon is better for dps, which is honestly all I care about

#

except I would probably use the cell for day EoL

humble lion
hybrid flicker
#

why

last gull
#

That's fair, moves very fast

flint bison
hybrid flicker
flint bison
#

Okay maybe not crowds

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Tiger bosses, really high single target

hybrid flicker
#

u know the thing that i regret the most

humble lion
flint bison
#

Tiger > Raven/tempest/sphere

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and those 3 are better than optic

hybrid flicker
#

b4 1.4.4 i used my golden worm to make a golden delight

last gull
#

Tempest and Sphere just suck though lol

flint bison
#

No??

#

Stardust what

hybrid flicker
flint bison
#

yes

last gull
#

Tempest doesn't hit regularly, sphere has slow startup

hybrid flicker
#

ye it does suck

flint bison
#

Tempest is a very good option for even empress

#

Calm

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just struggles with duke and only duke

last gull
#

Unless it got stealth buff

flint bison
#

Sundance tbf

last gull
#

Ah, yeah fair

flint bison
#

Sphere is a better version of optic basically

hybrid flicker
flint bison
#

You uh, you did this before 1.4.4 right?

hybrid flicker
last gull
#

I honestly have to disagree. Optic has always been very snappy in my experience, plus having 2 minions for 1 slot is very nice

flint bison
#

Oh good

hybrid flicker
flint bison
#

yeah that build would suck after 1.4.4 but nice NPCWizardEZ

humble lion
last gull
#

Did it get buff?

flint bison
#

Most minions did

humble lion
#

Yeah iirc

last gull
#

Or did everything else get nerf?

flint bison
#

Which includes optic but still

hybrid flicker
#

but optic has 2

flint bison
hybrid flicker
#

oh they nerfed sanguine?

flint bison
#

And obi armor / whip speed stacks

#

Not too much

humble lion
last gull
#

Most minions did
odd, I remember reading patch notes and reading about all the summon items getting nerfs. Might have been just whips and sentries tho

hybrid flicker
#

brooooooo

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i spent 1 and a half hours to kill dreadnautilus

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just for sanguine

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and then they nerfed it

flint bison
#

Well

#

Still good for preplantera

humble lion
hybrid flicker
#

;-;

humble lion
#

Just because it got nerfed doesn't mean its trash

hybrid flicker
#

well

#

what nerf?

#

damage or what

last gull
#

I mean, kind of other, cheaper, equally-good options though

flint bison
#

It used to hit twice per hit sometimes which gave more damage than intended

#

Like on the way to the enemy + returning

hybrid flicker
flint bison
#

Yeah

hybrid flicker
#

bcuz it wasnt intended anyways

last gull
#

just happens to also be a nerf

flint bison
#

It was surprisingly common while escaping but yea kinda

hybrid flicker
#

well

#

not that bad ig

flint bison
#

Still a nice minion even if I stick to blade and optic

hybrid flicker
#

im considering calamity cuz im in the "i beat ML like 50 times and have the zenith" for vanilla :/

humble lion
#

On what difficulties have you beaten the game

hybrid flicker
#

basically all

humble lion
#

Have you tried ftw or gfb

flint bison
#

Journey with spawn boosts 😳

hybrid flicker
last gull
#

Should consider thorium or split first imo.
Don't get me wrong, Clam is the chocolate ice cream of Terraria, it's the go-to not-vanilla. But generally, it sets the wrong expectation for other mods, and just ruins the experience, from what I have seen and heard.

humble lion
hybrid flicker
#

do i did ftw

hybrid flicker
#

also

#

can u carry ur items from vanilla into a modded world?

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or do u have to make a new character

last gull
#

It's another general content mod, but generally people agree that it feels more integrated with vanilla than clam

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Ie, adds items, biomes, NPCs, etc. just like you would expect of most large mods

vestal harbor
#

Hi

hybrid flicker
#

or do i have to make a new one

last gull
#

tmod has impoty player option

hybrid flicker
#

oh ok

#

also

last gull
#

You can also just install mods like DragonLens (Scalar's new cheatsheet/heros mod, but better in every way) to spawn items

hybrid flicker
#

i read on the calamity wiki abt an accessory called "The Calamatious One"

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then i find out how worthless the zenith is to calamity players

hybrid flicker
last gull
#

Clam throws vanilla balance out the window (it's okay, vanilla did this in 1.4.4, and everyone loves it ig)

hybrid flicker
last gull
#

I like that name mire

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*more

hybrid flicker
#

like the big worm that had stupid amounts of health

last gull
#

Yes ik what you're talking about.

humble lion
#

the dog

hybrid flicker
#

...

humble lion
#

heh

last gull
#

The god killer worm

#

Petition to make it canon

#

So like, question for you lot, because I want to hear more about this. Was discussing with a guy earlier about postgame balance, and they had claimed that Zenith and RoH are allowed to be unbalanced because of postgame, but they drew the line at giving the player invulnerability, and I suppose I'm curious, what do other players think about how Terraria's postgame is balanced, and is it fine as-is?

hybrid flicker
#

as a person with both the zenith and the RoH

last gull
#

Where is the line that players draw, because apparently I'm on the wrong side of it XD

hybrid flicker
#

i can say that post game progression should add a scond layer of hard

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like hard mode but for ML

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bcuz one u have the zenith

#

all the bosses and mobs are just squishy now

humble lion
hybrid flicker
#

so i think that after ML the bosses health should lik 1.5x (maybe 2x?)

#

because once you get the zanith and the RoH the game just isnt fun anymore

humble lion
#

post game is balanced

hybrid flicker
#

well yea it is balanced

#

but after that its just boring

humble lion
last gull
#

all the bosses and mobs are just squishy now
Right? But I've seen a lot of people say that's okay, and I'm not sure it's a sentiment I agree with.

hybrid flicker
#

u can basically dominiate the entire terraria world now

humble lion
#

'tis the point of an "endgame"

last gull
#

I mean, HK has an endgame that isn't world domination, so would it be okay to have that there?

hybrid flicker
#

i have a mob farm, an event farm, a herb farm, a golf course, a railway that runs through the entire map, pylons and personalised houses for all npcs.

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like my point is

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after u beat ML

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the only logical thing to go from there is speedrunning for the real sweaty gamers and mods for the more casual ppl

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which is why i was looking into clam

last gull
#

See, and like, I don't understand that. Like, I completed the final step of progression that the game offers, but I don't think it's fun to be all-powerful.
But okay, so like.. what are thoughts on afforementioned idea; is infinite health unfair somehow?

hybrid flicker
#

yes

#

for me, i have basically completed everything

last gull
#

But where's the logic there?
It's balanced to be able to kill everything almost instantly, but not balanced to be immortal?

#

What's the difference?

hybrid flicker
#

but for ppl who havent, the could go grind for the terraprisma, or the RoH or smth

#

and having invincibility would take out the tiny bit of challenge that it actually offers

last gull
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So do you or don't you want postgame challenge?

hybrid flicker
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i want something more

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and im thinking abt Calamity bcuz my friend that there is vanilla progression, but there is also so much more after that

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after you beat ML

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it IS like HardMode overagain

last gull
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But then why do things like Zenith make sense? I am honestly trying to understand here -- peeps keep telling me this and it keeps leading to circular narrative.

hybrid flicker
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everyone can agree that the zenith is OP

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but i think the devs wanted to give ppl an actual reward

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other than just the feeling of beating ML

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the zenith is tangible and a goal to shoot for that almost everyone wants

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is pushes people to complete the progression

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but if u dont have the zenith

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ML is just optional

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because there is no real purpose to beat it unless u want the meowmere or smth

last gull
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Would something like invulnerbility not be a goal like that? Or a star or badge on the player icon?
Going for a tangible reward sounds fine, barring that ML already has very strong drops.

hybrid flicker
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well

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imo

humble lion
hybrid flicker
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invulnerability just inst for everyone

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some ppl enjoy the feeling of just dominating the entire game

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but some ppl think that they would still like a better challenge after ML

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like me

last gull
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but inowing the gane's engine (...)
Game's engine is custom made and therefore flexible.

hybrid flicker
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for example

humble lion
hybrid flicker
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you could just throw all the progression out the window and start a giant build

humble lion
hybrid flicker
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the game progression is only a tool to help you achieve your goal

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you can make whatever goal you like

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the game is just a tool to help you achieve it

pure forge
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do I need to talk to get the terrarian role

last gull
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So... what. It's fair because the player has the option to forgo using it?

blissful marten
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yes

hybrid flicker
humble lion
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yes

hybrid flicker
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the game doesnt force you to use the zenith

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or the RoH

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its just goals that the player make themselves

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true endgame isnt after you beat ML

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its when you are satisfied with what you have accomplished

last gull
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so if the player could spawn items at will, it's fair and balanced, because the player can choose to ignore it?

hybrid flicker
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well yea

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like minecraft creative mode

last gull
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Alright, sticking to it, I approve.

hybrid flicker
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everything is fair game

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but minecraft players choose to use creative mode to accomplish their goals

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after all whats the fun of playing in creative mode all the time?

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same for terraria

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you bought the game, so you can play it how you want

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if you know the zenith will ruin most of your game experience

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why do you make it?

last gull
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See that's the thing, everyone says that, and I honestly -- no offence meant -- think it's a really stupid question.
Here is the next natural step in progression, the apex of all items, the infinity+1, and somehow it's expected to be fair to say, "I'm going to ignore progression, and handicap myself to have fun"

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That's not to say creative restrictions to that point are moot, as much as it is, "I'm restricting myself at the stage in the game where it shouldn't matter"

hybrid flicker
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it has good parts and bad parts

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but you can choose for yourself

last gull
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And it's totally fair on the devs' part to throw away balance because it should be on the player to control

hybrid flicker
last gull
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That's what I'm hearing

hybrid flicker
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ok that is sarcasm

last gull
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I'm not being sarcastic and I'm still not seeing why it's a fair expectation

hybrid flicker
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well

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i dont pretend that i know why the devs added the zenith

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and anything i said above is just my opinion

last gull
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But you are on board with it?

hybrid flicker
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well

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its my opinion

last gull
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It's a fine addition, and it's balanced.

hybrid flicker
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you can have ur own

last gull
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You know what, fair.

hybrid flicker
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i think its an ok addition but not very balanced

last gull
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And I earnestly wish it was, because it really detracts from the experience to, in every playthrough, reliably have access to what is effectively a cheat weapon

hybrid flicker
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alr gtg

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ttyl

last gull
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sure, cya

placid summit
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Coolwhip or firecracker

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Which is simply better

warm spindle
warm spindle
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But get both, coolwhip is also good

humble lion
coarse verge
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Yo I was wondering will chrorophyte spread if I'm afk and not moving or do I need to set an autojump like for a mob farm

placid summit
coarse verge
placid summit
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Np

coarse verge
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Been afk for 17h lmao

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Spreading slowly

placid summit
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Why do you need so much chlorophyte anyway

placid summit
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I suggest the wiki

coarse verge
coarse verge
placid summit
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Did you make your own farm or reseached one?

coarse verge
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My own I don't really like to get too much info outside the game I like to discover things in game xD

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It's just that I tested afk farming and wasn't sure if there was much difference so I asked

sturdy barn
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anyone got a world where they can give me 14 soul of might

spring pewter
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who can play teraria?

inland geode
rocky arrow
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Maby he cant beat destroyer?

blissful marten
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so you want them to break progression?

manic cave
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I am not racist

coarse verge
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It rly takes like 30m

rocky arrow