ultrakill-modding

[grim isle]

aw man, the best mod 😩

[austere jetty]

anything that modifies V2's ai will break V3 and unfortunate development

ideally you should play customs with no other mods installed

[midnight mirage]

Yeah, lots of mods are written with very specific assumptions that hold during the campaign

[austere jetty]

-# jaket jaket jaket jaket jaket jaket jaket jaket jaket jaket ja

[midnight mirage]

Like, a mod messing with V2 would assume you're either in 1-4 or 4-4

For example

[austere jetty]

the wesv2 mod is written to just look for an object with the v2 script that isnt named Big Johninator which is really funny because they couldve written it to just look for an object with the V2 script called V2 or V2 Green Arm

[midnight mirage]

Fair enough, for the campaign

[austere jetty]

yeah i cant really blame em since it is a shitpost mod but its insane how many people actively use it even though it hasnt been updated

[grim isle]

it still works with the last version?

why would i not use it 🤷‍♂️

and it's funny so heh

[midnight mirage]

Do you think people check the upload date

We wouldn't have people constantly asking why jaket doesn't work if they did

Or maybe they don't realize that game updates can break mods

[austere jetty]

its just odd to me because it seems like the kinda mod youd put on for 5 minutes to fight v2 with it

[midnight mirage]

Yeah but a lot of people just download a ton of mods and keep them installed without thinking about potential conflicts or performance

I could never do that because

1. I've written extremely unoptimized mods myself
2. I've written many prefixes that skip the original method, thus potentially ruining compatibility with other mods

But most people don't really worry about these things

[loud creek]

the average person probably doesn't have a clue how mods actually work lol

but yeah, with how harmony patches work, mods conflicting with each other is pretty common

[proud sierra]

EternalsTeam, can you update PluginConfigurator so it works on the revamped settings

[proud sierra]

it did not work

[tall wind]

It does work tho

[proud sierra]

well what can make it not work

i want costome levels

[tall wind]

You
You need angry for that

[proud sierra]

angry runs on plugin configurator i cant go into the menu for it

[tall wind]

my advice is to turn eveything thats not angry or plugin off

[proud sierra]

can this two crash [plugin config and conffigy] the other one

[cloud cedar]

can someone help me with finishing up a music pack I'm making for ust manager? I've got a few last tracks left that I can't figure out how to swap

I didn't just do all of the tracks in the template, I also unpackaged some ultrakill files to replace every other track in the game as well, but I'm still missing a few somehow, and a few I have don't work

[tall wind]

No

I haven’t experienced that

[soft pasture]

i dont know ust manager just please dont publish it to thunderstore🙏🙏

[cloud cedar]

why not?

[soft pasture]

theres a lot of flood

[cloud cedar]

idk where else I'd post it

[soft pasture]

fair ig

i gtg

classes

[cloud cedar]

good luck

[glad ledge]

Not sure if it's the right channel, but how do you stream ULTRAKILL on discord while R2Modman is running? I think it just captures the console rather than the game itself for whatever reason

wait nevermind, just needed to manually selected the game

[cloud cedar]

I found its easier to do it if you un-fullscreen, select to stream it, then fullscreen

[cloud cedar]

to clarify what I mean by "not work", there's a decent amount of tracks that are included in the registry but ustmanager isn't swapping them out when I put them in the text file
for example, 6-2 starts with two tracks, one played while gabriel is talking, and after he's done talking it gets swapped out for a second one. The second one, "Gabriel 6-2 Intro B" completely works. "Gabriel 6-2 Intro A" on the other hand... does not. No matter what I do with it, I cannot change that music

another example is 6-1's intro drone

it should be "Deep Drone 3" but changing it doesn't do anything

[lofty grotto]

pluginconfig dies if you have ultratweaker installed

[spare dove]

how do you make the enemy icon thing in the Smile0S thing 3D or is it a mod

[cloud cedar]

I'm starting to wonder if the issue may not be on my end. Like I formatted it correctly and used the correct file pathing, maybe ustmanager just can't change those tracks for some reason?

[swift prairie]

does anyone know how to change the color of special style bonuses in the mod BetterWeaponHUDs?

[wide mirage]

I'm having an issue where my mods that use configgy aren't showing in the config menu in-game. Anyone know a fix?

[cloud cedar]

configgy uses a different configuration menu than the regular plugin config. I can't send a screenshot, but configgy is next to options in the pause screen, not in options

[wide mirage]

Ye, I'm aware- I'm not seeing my mods appear within configgy's menu (using backslash)

[cloud cedar]

ah

well then idk sorry

[versed warren]

is there anyway to change parry image or a mod that changes it?

[versed warren]

i love the sploon pfp

[wide mirage]

🐙

[versed warren]

but anybody know

[cloud cedar]

I think I've seem one but idk what its called. I'll look later if I remember too

[versed warren]

ok

https://thunderstore.io/c/ultrakill/p/Ironfarm/AnyParry/ how do i use this i have barely any modding expirience

[cloud cedar]

I use r2modman for mods, personally

that handles it for you

[versed warren]

wait can you help

[cloud cedar]

idk how to apply mods without r2modman

and with r2modman you kinda just click download

[versed warren]

i can use this

but can you help me install it

[cloud cedar]

install the mod or r2modman?

[versed warren]

both

[cloud cedar]

for r2modman its just a program download you can look up

[versed warren]

i just clicked download now what

like i searches it up and downloaded

[cloud cedar]

you just gotta boot it up I think

[versed warren]

boot up what?

[cloud cedar]

r2modman

[versed warren]

its a file

[cloud cedar]

a .zip?

[versed warren]

yes

[cloud cedar]

extract it

[versed warren]

k i opened it up

[cloud cedar]

are you on the game selection screen?

[versed warren]

i picked ultrakill

[cloud cedar]

ok

[versed warren]

now what

do i install anyparry manual or with mod manager

[cloud cedar]

its in the mod manager

[versed warren]

ok

i think its working

but do you know how to put the custom image

[cloud cedar]

it should be in the mod's files

which you get to by going to settings in the profile, then browse profile folders

and its somewhere in there

[versed warren]

ok

alr thanks

lets test

[soft pasture]

unity explorer is funny

[sand dune]

Wait you can do that

[cloud cedar]

YOUR LONG

[cloud cedar]

dang, how did V2 fit?

[soft pasture]

lmaooooo

[cloud cedar]

V2 moment

[opaque crown]

Someone should turn v2 into a frog

[static cradle]

Chat how do I replace Gabriel with a different 3d humanoid model

I'm not a modder I just have this very specific idea

[static cradle]

This is a clue as to what model I'm trying to use

[cobalt heath]

bro envy last room is IMPOSSIBLE on a bad pc

its like 13 fps and I AM GOING CRAZY EVEN WITH NO COOLDOWNS ITS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE IT HAS LIKE 4 WAVES aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[grizzled moon]

For some reason Angry Level Loader seems to crash my game from time to time in custom levels, most often when I die

anyone know a fix?

I've tried verifying UK's game files already

[wild kernel]

Ya'll, hot take on this.
A mod to show your body in first person.

[cloud cedar]

as in like you see your legs when you look down?

stuff like that?

[wild kernel]

Yeah, or the torso too, if it works right.

[cloud cedar]

yeah, I'd use that mod if someone made it

[wild kernel]

In my mind, it'd look cool to see your sliding animation

[cloud cedar]

the only problem I could see with it is rocket riding upside down, because your camera is still upright, what's the pose look like?

[cloud cedar]

hell yeah

[wild kernel]

... I mean for like, just general use. No tricks like rocket riding... whatever the other stuffs are, etc

it'd probably need a little more tweaking if people want that

[cloud cedar]

yeah ik but the mod would still have to apply in some way while you're doing that

if it just looked the same then the legs would be dangling and that would look weird

[flat bobcat]

any mods that turn me into minos prime?

[soft pasture]

@neat jewel one of them broke whitename containment

[neat jewel]

.ban 1327357283654696980 bot

[glacial sedge]

:o: Banned theone.and_0nly#0 (Case #39821) (user notified with a direct message)

[full topaz]

chat i finally was able to buy ultrakill legally , can i transfer my non-legal save over ?

proof that i do actually own the game rn

[loud creek]

probably?

ultrakill just puts all save data in some folders where the game is installed

which is pretty uncommon compared to most games lol but that should make it pretty easy to do that

[full topaz]

i know that i wanted to know if it would sync with steam cloud

[loud creek]

no idea. you'll have to just try it and see

[full topaz]

aight thanks for the help

[midnight mirage]

sure, just copy it

[full topaz]

.

[midnight mirage]

I mean, I guess it should?

[full topaz]

hopefully it just recognizes it as an overwrite to the old file and sync it

[midnight mirage]

there's no risk in trying. just copy your save, open the game, close it, and see if it syncs

[full topaz]

im still 22% away from finding out if it does or not

goofy ahh internet speed

[full topaz]

and, how do people mod it ? from steam or BepInEx or something similar ?

[cloud cedar]

I use r2modman but that's not the only way to mod

[midnight mirage]

bepinex. either manually or through a mod manager (r2modman is the recommended one)

[full topaz]

ahh okay thanks

[midnight mirage]

check pins for guides

[full topaz]

it did sync with cloud

at first it gave an error and then after hitting retry it got fixed

[cloud cedar]

looking at it again, I don't think there's anything I can do to fix my issue, it all seems to be on the mod's end. I can try deleting and redownloading the mod to see if that fixes it?

ok no ustmanager just doesn't work for those tracks

that's unfortunate, it makes my music pack very jarring

[midnight mirage]

File format?

[cloud cedar]

I'm using the .ust text files ust manager uses

it works for almost every track

there's just like 7 it doesn't work on

I'm using ust manager correctly, its just not working on those specific tracks

[high glacier]

does anyone else not have the pluginconfig in options even though its downloaded?

[austere jetty]

disable ultratweaker

[high glacier]

i dont have that installed

[languid barn]

do you have it enabled

[high glacier]

yes i have the configurator enabled

[muted pulsar]

how does one mod ultrakill? Like how can i make my own mod?

[sick raptor]

https://ultramodding.github.io/

Guide to start modding ultrakill

[gentle sable]

Cheers

[foggy grove]

Im downloading Jetbrain via the modding guide, any specifics on download exe I should know?

[midnight marten]

What's jetbrain?

[wind pulsar]

tf is jetbrain

[midnight marten]

Oh i see

[wind pulsar]

also i need a tf2 shotgun over pump charge mod

[foggy grove]

rider i guess

[wind pulsar]

or just tf2 shotgun mod

[wind pulsar]

for the other 2 it could be the force a nature if this ends up being made

and the chainsaw is flying guillotine instead

[midnight marten]

You could probably do this with ultraskins
Although I'm not sure if you're able to change the model itself with that

[wind pulsar]

ultraskins is only textures

[foggy grove]

Well?

[midnight marten]

I mean
Close enough

[wind pulsar]

i guess

you could just make it a bunch of decals of the shotgun

[midnight marten]

I don't know anything about making mods lmao
Just download the version the mod guide tells you to

[wind pulsar]

i dont know either

most code i know how to do is make a lua code loop

[foggy grove]

im downloading the version I just wanna make sure from the downloader prompts im getting the right stuff

[wind pulsar]

cuz uhh
reasons relating to roblox

also i love the beggar's bazooka mod so much

how do i turn v1 into soldier

is there a mod for that

[cloud cedar]

I saw a mod that added the sign from tf2 as a weapon

[wind pulsar]

really a ultraskins reskin

[wind pulsar]

i have that one too

the image i have on it is from an arg it says "Beast Boy: The heat death of the universe"

[midnight marten]

If there's nothing about it in the mod guide, it probably doesn't matter too much

[wind pulsar]

should i make the sign do 6.5 damage instead

cuz soldier

it does 3.5 by default

which is scout(melee)/10

actually nah too op

[midnight mirage]

Idk, does it matter? You can make mods with anything thay can write text so you'll be fine either way

[trim hatch]

u guys have a tut on how to downgrade ultrakill

seriously can't find out how,

[midnight marten]

Please check pinned messages before asking a question here
95% of the time they're already answered

[trim hatch]

ahhh sorry i completely forgot!

my bad

[uneven bough]

might just be me being blind but how DOESNT ust manager have encore support yet??

[soft pasture]

giggles

[uneven bough]

shame since im tryinga figure out how to replace dead heat pulse since i think rexs cover sounds better

[uneven bough]

trying to use ust manager (ust maker more specifically) but theres no actual ingame option TO enable my ust and none of the music i replaced actually works...

am i doing something wrong????

the file localtions of the usts are kinda scattered everywhere so it might have to do with that

do i HAVE to put it in the same location as the actual ust file??

seems ust manager just isnt working at ALL for me for some reason

i have all the dependencies installed

all that works in the configgy experimental settings

[heady basin]

is there any mod that enables the 7-S cleaning thing every level?

[midnight mirage]

There was. Outdated and deprecated. But you should be able to play it if you downpatch

https://thunderstore.io/c/ultrakill/p/plonk/FullCleaning/

The thing about 7-S is that it's a level with unique systems made specifically for it. You've probably noticed how blood acts slightly different there. This mod didn't really replicate the experience perfectly. Honeslty it'd be impossible to do.

[grizzled moon]

On a lot of custom levels in Angry Level loader, my game often crashes when I die. (Levels such as Indulgence, Envy, Machination, etc.) I don’t have any other mods installed or anything. I’ve tried validating the game files already too. My PC runs Ultrakill fine.

[languid barn]

this might actually still work i should probably update it

[cloud cedar]

you gotta put it in the global section

"0-E Hot" for combat and "0-E Hot Clean" for calm

[cloud cedar]

as far as I'm aware, all of the audio files do have to be in the ust folder

[austere jetty]

this seems to happen to a lot of people im really not sure why

it's definitely something to do with checkpoints but its odd if its specifically custom levels that are doing it

[heady basin]

thank you very much

[grizzled moon]

Maybe it’s a similar thing to what happens in 0-E? (A lot of times I crash upon placing the second skull into it’s receptacle if I don’t touch the checkpoint right after)

[austere jetty]

i have a hunch on what it may be, could you try activating the central checkpoint in 2-2 and then dying?

if that crashes the game then its likely a specific type of checkpoint setup thats crashing people

[grizzled moon]

Ok

[grizzled moon]

The 2-2 checkpoint doesn’t crash

[austere jetty]

ah

hmm

im not sure then it could just be a thing with specific hardware, ive seen lots of people have the same crashes consistently in those exact same places

you could go to C:/Users/Name/AppData/Local/Temp/Hakita/ULTRAKILL/Crashes and look in Player.log to try and figure out what crashed it, I wouldn't send it here though since it includes your computer specs and probably some other info stored on your pc you ideally dont want posted in a public server

looking through someone elses crash log in the same place in 0-E they got the same warning hundreds of times directly before the crash so it could be tied to that but im not sure really

someone smarter here might know

[ancient loom]

how can i get the anyparry mod by Ironfarm to work cuz I can't, i don't know how to put the image in the config as its just a text file

[grizzled moon]

lmao I tried recreating the 0-E crash and it didn't crash this time miraculously. and I p-ranked it

[ancient loom]

nvm figured it out

[grizzled moon]

I played through 0-E a few times and it seems to only crash when I put the red and then blue skulls in

[heady basin]

i wish it had a updated version

[foggy grove]

Does anyone have a more streamline instruction for downloading the dnspy, I have the page open but wanna make sure its right.

[austere jetty]

its 100% doable you'd just have to export and reimport all the geometry of every level in an entirely different way, map out bloodstain areas (and go back thousands of times to mark pixels that cant be affected by bloodstains to prevent softlocks) then deal with all the other stupid 7-S shit
on a technical level its possible, but practically who the hell would wanna do that and make it work

thats months of your life you could spend doing anything else

[midnight mirage]

I mean, technically yeah

But when I say impossible, I mean impossible if you're a sane person*

[austere jetty]

person who has never modded in their entire life and isn't able to comprehend how gargantuan of a feat their mod idea is: good thing im not sane

[barren pagoda]

has jaket been fixed yet or no

[soft pasture]

NO!!!!!

[barren pagoda]

bros prepared

[soft pasture]

@languid barn you should update this gurt

[neat mica]

Does anyone have a boss rush mod that WORKS?

[midnight marten]

No

[neat mica]

Fuck

Why?

[midnight marten]

You could downpatch to play the one existing boss rush mod

[midnight marten]

Making mods is hard and I dont think there's a lot of demand for a rush mod

[neat mica]

But there IS a demand for a multiplayer mod

[midnight marten]

It's being worked on

[neat mica]

There was a multiplayer mod that worked and it was updated a few months ago after the revamp, but the mod was deprecated or something like that

[midnight marten]

It's being worked on
It's not deprecated

[neat mica]

I'm talking about another mod

[midnight mirage]

would ExitDoorManager work? It lets you change the destination of level exits, so you could just have each boss level lead to the next

[cloud cedar]

thats what I did when I wanted a boss rush

it should also be possible to make it a single custom level

[pliant glen]

i think that existed at some point actually

definitely not updated though

[granite scroll]

are there any mods that extend 1-S?

[pliant glen]

no

[granite scroll]

aw man

[icy mountain]

What add your guys thoughts on the envy levels?

[neat mica]

What envy levels?

[languid barn]

there's 2 that aren't released and 1 that's in progress

and also archipelago and bapho bingo met's

[neat mica]

What

[midnight mirage]

Angry Level Loader levels

[neat mica]

Oh

[midnight mirage]

"Multiplayer" mods

[neat mica]

Yo earthling

Did u make exit door manager?

[midnight mirage]

Shit, you found out

[neat mica]

I will rate the mod

[midnight mirage]

Yes, I shilled my own mod. Shameless!

[neat mica]

How do u make one?

[midnight mirage]

Thank you

[midnight mirage]

Well... You make a Bepinex plugin. Written in C#. You will probably also need a tool to decompile the game like dnspy. There's some good resources in the pinned messages

[neat mica]

Ok

I'm setting up the boss rush settings rn

[calm vine]

Where do you download your mods ?

[midnight mirage]

Thunderstore. If you want a mod manager, use r2modman (also from thunderstore)

[calm vine]

OK thanks :)

[neat mica]

It took me 5 minutes to find the p-1 exit 😭

[soft pasture]

neyeeheehehehe

[neat mica]

I rate the mod a 10

[midnight mirage]

Thank you!

[neat mica]

Ur welcome

[hard summit]

with ultrafun guns i got 12 seconds on 3-2

[minor geyser]

how do i downgrade to 15d for jaket?

[midnight mirage]

Check pins

[minor geyser]

Ok

[river chasm]

hi, are there any mods that make the enemies in ultrakill move really evasively, or at least a mod that makes the enemies faster and/or smaller?

[midnight marten]

its called brutal difficulty
its a vanilla feature

[languid barn]

uhhhh ultrapain refuelled

could wor

[steel helm]

plonk you should add melee influence to the ultrakill arm

In your next level

[languid barn]

i should murder you

[rugged jewel]

plonk how could the alt stray arm work?

[languid barn]

secret

[rugged jewel]

right.

[reef rose]

so is P-rank module just straight up broken

because istg I checked everything and it doesn't work

[cloud cedar]

If you want them to be even faster, there's a mod that makes every enemy radiant. I'm pretty sure its configurable so you can make it only buff speed

[midnight mirage]

Correct. It's called RadianceEnabler

[cloud cedar]

Exact name, wow, ty :3

[midnight mirage]

It's because I'm shamelessly advertising my own mod again

[cloud cedar]

Oh lmao, based :3

[midnight marten]

oh you made that?

[cloud cedar]

I used that one, on brutal.... with max settings... and enemy split on death enabled...

Safe to say I didn't get past the first level lol

[midnight mirage]

Try P-2

[cloud cedar]

I still can't reliably beat sisyphus, but tbf I don't really practice

[midnight mirage]

I beat rad 1 Sisyphus on Violent once and decided to never even bother again lmao. Some insane people can handle harder things, but that's not me

[cloud cedar]

All of my recent time on ultrakill has been spent on putting together a ust pack

[midnight mirage]

What's the theme?

[cloud cedar]

Deltarune ost

I started with Tenna's music for the earthmover, but I decided I just couldn't stop there

[midnight mirage]

Oohh, neat. There's a ton of potential there

[cloud cedar]

Oh yeah, that's why I had so much fun making it

For example, I put all of spamton's music in p-2, culminating in Big Shot for sisyphus

Nows Your Chance To Be A replacing the main level theme before it seems like it would be odd, but I think it works honestly

I also had to be creative with how I made the calm/combat versions of the tracks

So I included two options, either the calm and combat edits, or the unedited tracks

[midnight mirage]

That sounds pretty high effort

Tbh, I tried making a 2hu UST a while ago and just gave up

[cloud cedar]

Yeah its been taking weeks and its not even done

I've even found what I'm almost certain is a ust manager bug preventing me from finishing it

But that's not all I have left, I still haven't done the encores

I wonder if there's a way I could make it swap enemy sound effects too, for a full experience

Like for example making Insurrectionists use the shadowguy saxophone sounds

[midnight mirage]

I think you can

Unsure

But I swear I've seen sound effects being swapped with UST Manager

[kindred topaz]

hey does anyone know how to create custom levels

[midnight mirage]

Check pins

[cloud cedar]

I'll look into it, ty

[dim matrix]

Half the mods don't work anymore

I downloaded a downpatched ultrakill just for the mods (including multiplayer)

[loud creek]

correct

that's how it is when people make mods for an early access game

they break sometimes

[midnight mirage]

Update that revamps the whole game breaks mods (shocking)

I'm honestly really excited for post-release modding and custom levels

[cloud cedar]

Yeah, mods will have a lot less to worry about after the full release

But there's still the encores coming after that

[midnight mirage]

Yeah, but there shouldn't be many code changes after that

[cloud cedar]

Mhm

[midnight mirage]

After 1.0 we probably won't have to worry about mods breaking again. Unless Hakita decides to rewrite some important system for a cool idea in one of the encore levels

[cloud cedar]

There is a non zero chance that Fraud Encore gets portals in portals and that breaks every level that uses fraud portals

[loud creek]

well i don't think we can be completely sure about that. it'll probably happen much less though

[midnight mirage]

Well, Hakita said the plan is for the encore levels to have mostly reused assets. I imagine that also implies he doesn't want to write many new systems or modify existing ones. But, to be fair, I can see mechanical changes to the game post-release due to feedback

[loud creek]

yeah that's pretty much what i meant

adding new levels won't break anything but it's probably likely that other things would also still get changes post release

[soft pasture]

uhhhh so about thats

[cloud cedar]

Wdym?

[cloud cedar]

I found it
there's a single bundle that has just actually every sound effect in the game

[crimson rose]

How tf do I get jaket to work?

I downloaded it but it don't work

[midnight mirage]

@soft pasture downpatch. Check pins.

[soft pasture]

it never ends

[lofty grotto]

genuine question,
which bothers you more
ust and ultraskins submods in thunderstore
or questions about jakit

[soft pasture]

if i had to rank it

1. ust
2. jaket
3. skins

jaket has been normallized for me

[lofty grotto]

hell yea
im only the cause of the third worst

thats gotta mean something

probably

[lofty grotto]

btw i have been asking people to use the cosmetics tag to try and help filtering
cuz i do get that they clutter stuff

[soft pasture]

cool 👍

[lofty grotto]

eventually i want to set up something like rude has
i just cant afford it right now

[loud creek]

i'm pretty sure most people don't really care that much that there are music and skin mods on thunderstore

feels like overreacting to me tbh

[jaunty sedge]

what exactly did cintra change about her skins following the latest ultraskins update?

[midnight marten]

Probably the update was to make them compatible with the new update

[crimson rose]

Ohhh thx

[eager hamlet]

i was following along with a modding tutorial for ultrakill and copied the code exactly but its giving me an error saying ("Instance" does not exist in the type "NewMovement") im very new to modding so any tips would be helpful. player = new NewMovement.Instance; this is the code

[mental sentinel]

Florp

[midnight marten]

how does this relate to modding?

[soft pasture]

good point

[pallid crow]

guys

how i get mods?

[indigo ice]

thunderstore is the best option imo

[pallid crow]

ok

im looking there

[indigo ice]

glad i could help

[pallid crow]

btw

red

i figured out how to get mods working

but what could i do if one of them isnt working?

[loud creek]

it depends

but most of the time you can't do anything besides downpatching

[midnight marten]

not working in what way?

missing dependency: using r2modman, the mod manager app for thunderstore, dependencies are automatically downloaded
outdated mod: wont work, downpatch if youre desperate
mod incompat: remove the conflicting mod, if you dont know which ones conflicting disable all your mods one by one until the problem stops

[rustic river]

Personally I use r2modman, it's easier to use and launch modded games

[regal totem]

Is there a way to run modded ULTRAKILL but run it well?

Because even on r2, it's kinda slow

[midnight marten]

modded ultrakill already runs pretty well
how many other apps do you have open and how many mods do you have enabled?

[regal totem]

I'll check in the afternoon

1am now

[jaunty sedge]

Oh you mean like the file that allows you to automatically upload them into the mod without having to go to the plugins folder yourself?

[midnight marten]

Yeah

[midnight mirage]

What tutorial?

[midnight mirage]

Also, what's with the "new"? Shouldn't it be "player = NewMovement.Instance"?

[eager hamlet]

https://youtu.be/fL4koeLJ4ko?si=iqCfEys8qa10_0Xv

I really have no idea what I'm doing. I'm just trying to understand how modding works atm

[midnight mirage]

It says "player = NewMovement.Instance"

There's no "new" before NewMovement.Instance

This code is just accessing the player object

[eager hamlet]

I might be an idiot

Thank you

[midnight mirage]

Nah, just new. We all start somewhere

[kind hearth]

[Warning: Unity Log] The script 'The_Timestopper.Timestopper' could not be instantiated!

how could i stop this

[midnight marten]

We need more than this
What mods you're using other than timestopper, for one

[kind hearth]

js timestoppee

[midnight marten]

not even its dependency?

[kind hearth]

i put UMM plugins with it

and thats all

[midnight marten]

Umm hasn't been updated in like
Years

Please check when a mod was last updated before using it

[ivory sail]

is wtshnn gonna update to revamp

just wondering

[midnight mirage]

[midnight mirage]

Where the streets have no name?... How was anyone supposed to guess that acronym. Took me a fucking while

The answer is idk, ask the map creator

[ivory sail]

Its a pretty famous custom level iirc

[paper marlin]

Yo why cant i run movement+

Is it not possible after revamp?

[midnight mirage]

Check the upload date

[paper marlin]

Its the newest

[midnight mirage]

............

Last updated: a year ago

That's your answer

[paper marlin]

So it doesnt work

And theres no fix

I was so excited to try it

[midnight mirage]

You can downpatch. Check pins for that

[paper marlin]

I cant check pinned messages on mobile browser

[midnight marten]

yes you can
click the search button then click "pins"

[soft pasture]

this heathen doesnt have a 2 year old discord build😂😂

[cloud cedar]

ok so I started working on this, and immediately found out that sound effects have the exact same issue as the music. Some just... don't work???? The only insurrectionist sounds that works are its spawn in sound effects

[nova geyser]

how do ppl make custom level??

[soft pasture]

pins

[nova geyser]

oh thx

[brisk saddle]

hey does anyone know how to modify the speed of a rocket ur riding

[loud creek]

you could patch Grenade.PlayerRideStart and then go from there

[pallid crow]

anyone know how to get custom maps working?

[midnight mirage]

Get angry (level loader)

[brisk saddle]

so wait how do i make a mod

there is 1 wiki and it stops after just installing bepinex and a ide

[sharp gate]

how can I make my own mod for sound?

[cloud cedar]

Mod for sound? Do you mean like replacing sound effects?

If so, USTManager can do that

[sharp gate]

for the music

and yeah replacing it

[rough niche]

I'm here for help with USTmanager as well actually. I'm trying to find out how to replace sounds but it doesn't want to change them at all, though changing the music does work. This is happening even with UST files downloaded from R2modman. On a secondary note, the ust.debug command isn't doing anything when I try to use it.

[sharp gate]

I wanna change the music using USTmanager, I just have never done it before and would love some help :/

[cloud cedar]

Some sound effects and musics work, some don't

I already filed it as a bug report

[rough niche]

To change the music go to Ultrakills game files on steam and open the UST file (if it's not there open the game once with USTmanager installed). I suggest you just copy and past the template folder and rename it and the UST file inside to what you want. Put whatever music files into the new folder and open the UST file with notepad or whatever. Find the level number you want a type the file name of the music you want for said level into the second quotes. It should look something like this.

},
"0-1": {
"clean": "relative/path/to/audio",
"battle": "STFG.mp3"
},

(this is copy and pasted from my test UST)

[cloud cedar]

I forgot the exact pathing, but ultrakill's level bundle files include all of the game's audio pathings you need to replace. I use UABEA to be able to read the bundles

[cloud cedar]

you don't need the path if its in the same folder as the file

I never use paths

[rough niche]

Does changing the character voicelines/dialogue work, and do you know if the debug command not working is me just not knowing how it works or something?

[cloud cedar]

I haven't tried those yet, but the option to try is there

I haven't used the debug command

so far I've only tried everything ferryman and everything insurrectionist

everything ferryman works, but no insurrectionist voice works

[rough niche]

Where would I find the level bundle files?

[cloud cedar]

ULTRAKILL/ULTRAKILL_Data/StreamingAssets/aa/StandaloneWindows64

in that folder is all of the level and layer bundle files and all of the other music ones

and that folder has a folder in it titled assets_assets_assets that contains the sound effects bundle

[rough niche]

how do I open bundle files?

[cloud cedar]

I downloaded UABEA, it can read those files

when you open one of the bundle files for the first time, it asks "This bundle is compressed. Decompress to file or memory?"

I found it best to select file, which prompts you to make a copy of the bundle that is an uncompressed file

and then if you need to open it a second time, you can open the uncompressed copy without needing to decompress it again

is there a debug, tool, or mod I can use to display what sound effects are currently playing? Like their file paths? That would be a lot better than what I'm doing rn, which is just guessing

[midnight mirage]

chrome and firefox?

[midnight marten]

You can fully quit out of Chrome and Firefox, that'd give you a significant boost probably
And you can close the steam window once the game opens

[wraith bane]

Any new gameplay mods rn?

Also does bigcg work

[steady kiln]

Hey im new to the discord and i was wondering if anyone would be able to help me mod ultrakill pls?

[midnight marten]

Making or installing?

[steady kiln]

installing

[midnight marten]

https://thunderstore.io/package/ebkr/r2modman/

[steady kiln]

thank you so much

[harsh geode]

how do you run jaket now
wit hthe new menu i cant find any of the stuff

[midnight marten]

Please check the last updated date of a mod before playing

[harsh geode]

yeah i looked at it

i think it might not work anymore something tells me

[midnight marten]

@midnight mirage you do not know how glad i am you made this
https://thunderstore.io/c/ultrakill/p/earthlingOnFire/NoFleshPrison/

[midnight mirage]

You're welcome.

Flesh Prison is really annoying!

Sometimes I just wanna fight Minos, but NOOOO you have to deal with this annoying fuck

[kindred topaz]

how do i use rude level editor i downloaded the thing and i dont know how to put it into the game

[midnight marten]

Did you use r2modman?
If you did it should've done everything for you

[kindred topaz]

i dont know how to put the mod into r2modman, it isnt in r2modman its from the pinned section here

[midnight marten]

That's Rude, that's for making levels

[kindred topaz]

how do i make levels with rude tho????

thats what im trying to find out

[midnight marten]

Let me find the guide rq

[midnight marten]

This guides for Spite but it works for Rude as well, just remember to use Rude instead of Spite whenever it's mentioned
https://envy-spite-team.github.io/SpiteDocs/docs/Setup/Editor Setup

[kindred topaz]

thanks

[midnight mirage]

Ok, so, you downloaded Vanity and made a Rude project, right?

[kindred topaz]

yes

im doing the instructions rn

[midnight mirage]

Next step is to open it with Unity. Don't worry about the specific Unity version. Just install the Unity Hub, find the button to open a project from disk, and it will prompt you to install the right Unity version. Once you finally open the project, you can make the level inside Unity.

[kindred topaz]

im doing it right now lol

when i have it all set up im just gonna make a test level

[kindred topaz]

update : the project won't load

or its just taking ages to load

its stuck at about halfway

[midnight marten]

Yeah it does that

[kindred topaz]

I T F I N A L L Y S T A R T E D

damn

this is way too much to handle

guess ill be abandoning trying to create levels now 🙂

i wish there was a simple level creator

where you could just place blocks and change color, texture and stuff and also place enemies idk

[pliant glen]

sandbox is the closest youre gonna get to that

[vagrant radish]

is there a mod to change boss names

nvm fgound it

[maiden mirage]

how i can make the jaket mod work?, i got it installed by modmanager but it doesnt do anything

[loud creek]

yeah jaket doesn't work

you have to downpatch if you want to play it

[maiden mirage]

soo, install it manually? dont by modmanager?

[loud creek]

no

you have to get an older version of ultrakill

[midnight mirage]

@soft pasture

[cloud cedar]

What was the mod?

[wraith heart]

Heyy guys. So Plugin config isn't working for me

Is it just outdated?

[midnight mirage]

No

[soft pasture]

oh my god bro

this is all from today

someone needs to stop cintra

jesus

the downloads tab is ruined

this is the most blatant skin bloat ive ever seen

[loud creek]

who cares

[soft pasture]

bloody good point actually

[midnight mirage]

Ultraskins was updated

Honeslty, I don't mind too much. Skins >>>>> shitty UST slop that replaces a single track with a meme song

[soft pasture]

yes

[lofty grotto]

all of them technically dont work with the new ultraskins anyway

because r2modman hates folders and all the skins cintra uploaded have multiple folders

so they still need manual instead of the new direct download system

they all still use the legacy support

[soft pasture]

😭😭😭🙏

[lofty grotto]

tbf i forgot r2modman didnt like subfolders

so i forgot to mention it

[frosty beacon]

Uhhhhhh can i Acousticaly yap about my cybergrind mod idea?

[midnight mirage]

Don't ask, just yap

[soft pasture]

yay#

yeah*

[frosty beacon]

:D

Ok so

It's cybergrind but you can do everything with it

You want an specific layout?

You want all the waves be just filth?

Well you can besides other stuff

Such as
Bosses
Secret enemies
Puppets and sooo much more

[cloud cedar]

s e v e n t y
i n s u r r e c t i o n i s t s

[frosty beacon]

Some editable things such as
-"There's something inside this little box"
Prisons spawning their prime souls after dying
-Swordmachines your v2 /Gabriel
After defeating v2 she turns into v2² same for gabe
-Intros
Cerbs gets up from their pedestals
Swordmachines fall from the celing
Hm digs itself up
Mannequins stop posing

-Annoyances
TCoKM parasites
FPs Spawns
Security system can spawn

You can also tag if you want bosses to have their on waves orr they just spawn

[cloud cedar]

minos prime would be silly because he's prone to accidentally killing himself

[frosty beacon]

I can balance around that i think

[cloud cedar]

its not hard to get him to out of bounds

with his "die" slam thingy

[midnight mirage]

sounds ambitious but most of this seems doable

but yeah, jank will be jank

[frosty beacon]

Also for those who din't get the Swordmachines joke in 0-3 you fight sm on it's first phase at the start of the level, and at the end you fight the second phase
When Swordmachine gets introduced as a normal enemy it just transforms into the 2nd phase

[frosty beacon]

[frosty beacon]

Ok thx for the heads up

[cloud cedar]

its in 0-3

[cloud cedar]

also you can fight both back to back if you skip the first fight, but I don't think that's possible on a first playthrough

cause you need to have something to break the rock with

oh wait you can go up from the first room and through the glass

[frosty beacon]

I'm still debating if leviathan will have it's old second phase or it's New one

[frosty beacon]

Yeah thats the entire challange

[cloud cedar]

I don't even remember what the old second phase was

[frosty beacon]

Tail

Thats it, it's tail attacks you

[cloud cedar]

in a different way than new one uses the tail in phase 1?

or was it moved to phase 1?

[frosty beacon]

I think it was moved

[cloud cedar]

in that case using old phase 2 just seems kinda redundant imo

[frosty beacon]

I mean you can just watch gameplay
Revamp is just a few months old

[cloud cedar]

everyone kills leviathan too fast

all of the clips I'm finding are like a minute long

[frosty beacon]

I k but like
I don't want to animate the floor exploding

[cloud cedar]

that's fair

[frosty beacon]

Oh yeah i forgor

You can also add modded enemies

[cloud cedar]

also if you don't use the water, leviathan will have levitating cut off body parts

[frosty beacon]

Oh yeah my idea is the area aroud you flooding

[cloud cedar]

actually, adding the option to set hazard would solve that too

I'd love for the 7-2 land mines to be relevant once ever

like how many people even know about the massive land mine field?

[frosty beacon]

Guttertanks spawn them tho

[cloud cedar]

different thing

there's a plane outside of the level that explodes when stepped on

[frosty beacon]

Ohhh you are talking the out of bounds mines

[cloud cedar]

mhm

I love 7-2 I've combed through it for everything I could learn about it

[frosty beacon]

Naaaah
You can't see em
Would be to hard

Heat resistance tho

[cloud cedar]

they're not actual mines, its a pseudo death plane

like 5-2 being surrounded by water

I guess its more comparable to 4-2's sand

[frosty beacon]

Oh yeah about this
Idk how it would work but uf the mod has a new arsenal you can change arsenals
Not mix and match tho because that would be redudant

Atleast the only one example i have is
Ultraburst's blade of desires is a sword that with the right combo is a
Sawed on
Railcannon
Shotgun (primary fire)
And more but i don't have the means to check rn

[cloud cedar]

V1 better be glad Roulxs left

impossible boss fr

[grim isle]

deltarune good
job bad

[lofty grotto]

that's awesome

[edgy tapir]

this is honestly really cool, and i also had been thinking on a mod for cybergrind (if i knew how to make mods for ultrakill)

[knotty marsh]

Is there a mod that replaces benjamin with a giant horse?

[rustic river]

No

Make it yourself or something idk

[bronze spindle]

How should I start modding as someone with coding experience?

[midnight marten]

Guide in pins

[bronze spindle]

The page is incomplete

They say use dnspy but dnspy cannot recompile raw c++

[midnight marten]

#ultrakill-modding message

[bronze spindle]

Literally just saying, here is the mod for almost all games now throw it at ultrakill

[midnight marten]

Unity is pretty similar across the board I think

[bronze spindle]

Like a decompiled version

[bronze spindle]

Well yea but it's like asking to do brain surgery blind, I don't know what I am changing

If anything at all

[loud creek]

ultrakill doesn't use c++ for anything. it's all c#

[loud creek]

this is mostly true unless the game is built using IL2CPP (ultrakill is not)

[pliant glen]

you should look at example code if you know c#

many if not most mods have open source code

[mortal surge]

Dnspy is just to decompile the dlls to C#, I think a good example mod thats open source to look at is Ultracoins. Theres also youtube tutorials for basic UK mods

Also I love how I can check on the current state of jacket by looking at Capy's name

[midnight mirage]

Yet people still ask

https://github.com/earthlingOnFire/NoFleshPrison/tree/main I think this mod I made in 5 minutes works really well as a template.

There's also the ultramodding templates https://github.com/UltraModding/UltraModding.Templates

[frosty beacon]

Really ???? Thx

[mortal surge]

Whoever is making the modding wiki is goated just fyi

[midnight marten]

So how's this going oomf

[midnight mirage]

I can help with that mod if needed. I have some enemy replacement code rotting in my hard drive that could be useful

[spiral geyser]

are there any tas mods?

like celeste type tas where u have an inputs file and it plays it back

I've made playback tas mods for like 3-4 games so i wouldn't be opposed to doing it for ultrakill if there aren't any

one of them was also 3d so i kinda know the syntax n stuff

[midnight mirage]

I vaguely remember some Ultrakill TAS stuff a long time ago but idk if it was ever released as a proper mod or if it still works

I'm searching for it right now and the first result is just using cheat engine so...

https://github.com/Eddio0141/UniTAS I also found a tool for general unity games

Ok, I found the Ultrakill TAS mod. It's outdated https://thunderstore.io/c/ultrakill/p/DolfeMods/UltraTAS/

[spiral geyser]

unitas is pretty good I've used it b4

but

it sometimes doesn't work great and it's also not playback in the inputs file sense
you kinda make like a lua file for inputs

[spiral geyser]

apparently doesn't work anymore yea

and the codebase seems like a mess

it's one giant 1000 lines long file 💀

[spiral geyser]

also unitas rly doesn't work well for 3d games

because it works via pure mouse movement which is annoying

the 3d game i made a tas mod for was bloodthief and i made it so you control camera via pitch and yaw

way better than mouse movement

unitas does have a controller thing but it's finicky

pitch and yaw is always better than mouse inputs
cuz u can get like extreme precision

[spiral geyser]

yea it sucks

no real savestates either

[crude bay]

ya, i lost the code when my drive corrupted so i had to get it from a decompile

@thorny vortex TAS talk happening

[thorny vortex]

I wrote a helper function that lets you input degrees of rotation and it returns the corresponding mouse movements

[spiral geyser]

won't be as accurate as pure rotation tho

like if u want exactly 100.01° or some shit

impossible with mouse movement cuz ur limited by 1 pixel of movement

[thorny vortex]

That doesn’t rly matter tho

[crude bay]

just setting the camera, x and y is best

[spiral geyser]

pitch and yaw same shit

wait lemme show the syntax of my bloodthief tas mod

[thorny vortex]

For a TAS, you would be able to target a specific location with good precision, if you want more, you can reduce sensitivity

[crude bay]

non determinism is hard

[spiral geyser]

oh wait no embed perms

https://github.com/Luna5829/bloodthief-tas-mod

this is how i write the syntax of all of my tas mods

theres an example file

and docs and stuff

[spiral geyser]

no point if u can simply get the controller and actually set pitch and yaw

[thorny vortex]

Yeyee

[thorny vortex]

Yea it’s a rly concise syntax

[spiral geyser]

bloodthief is in godot and gdscript is pretty easy to make tas stuff for

[spiral geyser]

directly stolen borrowed from celeste tas syntax

[thorny vortex]

Is there a cruelty squad TASer?

[spiral geyser]

unlikely 😭

[thorny vortex]

If it’s open source then it’s not even stealing/borrowing

[spiral geyser]

are u like big into tas

[thorny vortex]

It’s also godot tho

[spiral geyser]

yea obv i mean it's just the syntax

[spiral geyser]

oh cool
it'd be pretty easy to repurpose it

for any other godot game

[crude bay]

not rlly
its cool but lotta work

[thorny vortex]

I keep in touch with the unitas maintainer and I’m also a (mostly retired) speedrunner

[spiral geyser]

nice

[thorny vortex]

I’ve made a few TASes for ultrakill already

[spiral geyser]

unitas is nice but i don't love the lua syntax it's not clean

[spiral geyser]

with?

unitas or

[thorny vortex]

Wtfff I love lua lol

[thorny vortex]

Slowing down time

[spiral geyser]

yea i like it too but
celeste tas syntax is much cleaner

and kinda easier for non programmers

[spiral geyser]

oh just cheat engine

[thorny vortex]

Unitas is gonna have a GUI editor in the future tho, it’s just that for now, the kinks need to be ironed out

[thorny vortex]

Nah, major assists

[spiral geyser]

ah

[thorny vortex]

And prefs set gameSpeed 0.2

https://youtu.be/aSlq32f77jQ?si=xgY6izOfsYkiu0Cr

[spiral geyser]

for bloodthief i only had basic savestates to just save enemy position and velocity and player position and velocity
because usually if u want determinism its best to just play back the entire tas lol

but godot has a thing called --fixed-fps which speeds up the game a lot and also makes it a lot more deterministic

[thorny vortex]

It might be able to go to a sub10 from shit I’ve thought of since making this

[thorny vortex]

Oh unitas does that too

It does a lotta evil shit to the engine

[spiral geyser]

oh last time i used unitas was like a year ago or smt

prob improved since then

[thorny vortex]

It’s defo improved, tho there hasn’t been as many commits lately bc the maintainer got a job lmao

[spiral geyser]

essentially just running it as fast as your pc can support and setting the delta time to smt specific

[spiral geyser]

ah

anyone tried unitas on ultrakill?

[thorny vortex]

Bloodthief is unity?

[spiral geyser]

i get the games mixed up

smh

[thorny vortex]

Ohh lmaoo

Yea I have

[spiral geyser]

bloodthief is inspired from ultrakill so 😭 kinda similar

[thorny vortex]

It doesn’t work on current patch tho afaik bc the revamp update added some async methods which unitas doesn’t patch yet

[spiral geyser]

unitas has some controller thing does that work for ultrakill

[spiral geyser]

ooh

[thorny vortex]

I’ll have to check

[spiral geyser]

ive been out of ultrakill entirely for like months so idk tf is going on 😭
ik theres some oil thing now that makes u slide and go faster

[thorny vortex]

Yea just play the new levels and weapons, there’s a new alt weapon too you’ll have to find

[spiral geyser]

the issue is TASing requires actually being somewhat good at the game
2 of the games I've TAS'd the most are games where I was #1 on the leaderboard (bloodthief and strata)

[thorny vortex]

Ah yea that’s where my speedrun experience comes in handy, since I had to route that TAS too (4 rail uses in under 12s lmao)

[spiral geyser]

bloodthief TASing is lowkey rly fun but thats mostly cuz i understand every piece of tech and also invented some tech of my own for the tas
for smt like ultrakill I'd suck at it

[thorny vortex]

Is bloodthief alright for speedrunning? I’ve been tryna find some new games to run bc I’m mostly burnt out from ultrakill

[spiral geyser]

yea it's rly fun
both speedrun and tas

[thorny vortex]

I’d recommend just try routing custom levels to learn how to route and improve instincts if u wanna try

[spiral geyser]

high asf skill ceiling
because slam vault has rly tight timings

[thorny vortex]

Damnnn

Is it on steam

[spiral geyser]

yep

havent played it in a while but it's still good

and my tas mod is like mostly pretty deterministic

[thorny vortex]

Oh it’s not out yet?

[spiral geyser]

nah but it's still got a decently sized speedrunning scene

[thorny vortex]

Damnn

Tbh ultrakill did too

[spiral geyser]

any% is usually boring as fuck tho
lvl 5 just has a random crossbow in the void that u can use to launch urself directly to the finish

any% inbounds is actually fun

lvl 5 is my fav

[thorny vortex]

Oh is it like cruelty squad with hooking onto a bullet

[spiral geyser]

lvl 5 pacifist is actually peak too

[spiral geyser]

crossbows explode on impact
and the game has parrying

you prob know where this is going

[thorny vortex]

Oh huhhh

[spiral geyser]

you parry your own crossbow shot and it explodes and launches u rly far

cuz u can bind shoot and parry to the same keybind

[thorny vortex]

Yea I gotta hop on this

[spiral geyser]

usually scroll wheel

and scroll

and u go flying

wait lemme pull up the super shitty old lvl 5 tas i partially did

https://medal.tv/games/bloodthief/clips/k1kkbn7s2fOTDQxzF?invite=cr-MSwwVkgsMjE3MzE1NTI5

it's old so it also uses an old route

much slower than wr but
it's cool as a tas showcase

the stuff in top left and top right are info hud from my tas mod
top right shows general info about the player like rotation and position
top left shows angle speed graph
because it has quake like movement

yk quake
like wish dir stuff

bloodthief is like that

so if u spam left right at the right joystick angles u can go a good bit faster

[south prism]

Hey is there a mod that makes it able to play coop?

Or im just bad a Jacket doesnt work for me

[edgy tapir]

Would you like to hear my idea too?

[frosty beacon]

Go on

I'll be busy rn but i'll check later ok ?

[edgy tapir]

Alright

[midnight mirage]

@soft pasture jaket doesn't work on current patch. You need to downpatch. Check pins.

[south prism]

oh didnt know sorry

[midnight mirage]

Dw, you're not the first nor the last. People ask so often it's an inside joke already

[edgy tapir]

So the main idea of the mod is to add ways to further customize your Cybergrind experience, with a few options

Bosses: Can be enabled to have them have their own waves, or to simply spawn whenever
Enemy select: allows you to allow or forbid sone enemies from spawning
Special stages: Stages customized based on different layers. Lust might have the falling bridge from 2-1, Wrath might be underwater, etc. If this and boss are enabled then boss stages will be their home layer.
More enemies: Like the bosses, Prime souls (boundries will be put in place so minos doesnt kill himself), Minotaurs, Flesh prisons (no spawn, random enemy inside), Cancerous Rodents, and the twin bosses
Swordsmachining: Upon dying, bosses will go from Fight 1 to Fight 2 if enabled
Modifiers: Makes special changes, like

• Dead Heat Pulse: The heat mechanic from 0-E, you get cooled at the end of every round
• Ooh, Shiny: Every enemy is radiant
• Timebomb: You have the Earthmover explosion timer, but every wave cleared gives time back
• Iconiclasm: Idols spawn every wave and in higher numbers

[frosty beacon]

It's like mine
Neat

I also plan on Harder waves add specific bosses that are puppeted on a normal wave

Like puppeted Sisyphus on wave 240

Or puppeted v2

I think i could make boss encounters harder
Like 1-E but harder
Or the brain fight with security system things

[uneven bough]

are there any mods that can set your hp to EXACTLY 1? (or equivalent)

i want to make no hit runs more convenient

[cloud cedar]

the only one shot mod I've seen makes all enemies die in one hit too

that did make an interesting playthrough, but that's not what you're looking for

[uneven bough]

i did try making it so ultrachallenge would instakill you everytime you took damage

but i had to use the damage function

just putting it into an infinite loop crashing the game every time i got hit

thats the OPPOSITE of convenient

gonna try making it to restart the level when i take damage instead

but that is ALL damage including self inflicted damage

but 1hp would do the same thing soooooo

[fiery owl]

Is this available or is this something you are working on?

[edgy tapir]

Oh no, something that i'd work on if i knew how to mod

But idk how so it probably wont be made, sadly

[idle lance]

where do i download ultraburst

i am struggling to find it :(

[fiery owl]

Oh, got me excited for a second there

[upbeat jewel]

has anyone got any idea if ultratelephone 2 is being updated to support the ultrarevamp bc it doesnt work properly and i really want to play with it

[languid barn]

couldn't you have just put __instance.hp = 0 in a prefix in the newmovement damage func

[drifting haven]

Does anyone know why when I load up ultrafunguns the menu to see the weapons dosent work? Like the mod is installed, I can see it in configgy but it just dosent work.

[uneven bough]

i have NO idea how ultrakill actually works under the hood

how would i know that??

[languid barn]

well with basic logic and programming knowledge you would know calling a function within itself makes an infinite loop

and the player dies if their hp is zero

[amber trench]

is there a mod that lets you play as a gutterman?

think that would be pretty cool

[cloud cedar]

I've thought up something like that, but idk how to do it

[amber trench]

you could take extra damage from the back because of the coffin, but you passively heal

you don't actively heal like V1 though

much slower but tankier

[cloud cedar]

my thought was that your health is limited to 25, but you no longer take 10x damage

effectively giving you accurate gutterman health

not effectively, that's just literally the health a gutterman has

[amber trench]

think you'd be too squishy then, especially from the back because of the lack of shield

with the lack of mobility

[cloud cedar]

that would be the same as V1 having 250 health

[amber trench]

I would go for something like 300 HP and the style meter gives you dmg resistance, like the existing V2 mod does

remember you can't dash

[cloud cedar]

also the shield does two things:

1. reflects hitscans and projectiles that hit it
2. gives a 33% damage reduction to attacks not granted by the shield

[amber trench]

you either block with the shield or you tank that sht

would be cool if you also had a brief sprint

like very brief just faster thud-thud-thud

[cloud cedar]

the problem is that if you use actual gutterman mobility you just can't beat the game

at most you get hard stuck on 2-1 because you can't long jump

[amber trench]

thinking about it

[cloud cedar]

the idea I had is that you'd have recovery over time from the coffin, and higher style increases hp regeneration

to prevent it from being too strong, it would be that type of healing where it scales the longer you go without taking damage, and a parry makes the rate jump up

[drifting haven]

nvm you just have to use gale instead of r2modman

[amber trench]

that could work too, though then again what does style mean in the context of your limited arsenal, you have melee and the gatling gun, that's it.. maybe a conduction mechanic? Make the gatling gun shoot actual bullets/nails and then use a taser thingy to conduct

give the gatling gun an alt-fire

[cloud cedar]

personally I like the idea of giving the gutterman its own unique weapon set

[amber trench]

and have the gatgun be his main weapon, ye

[cloud cedar]

having just one gun would get old, like playing ultrakill with just the revolver

[pale leaf]

a play as gutterman mod would be very difficult to create you'd be very slow and lumbering in a game where speed is the name

it could probably be done but it'd be a little funky

[cloud cedar]

mhm, it would definitely be different though

[amber trench]

exactly, I think it would be a unique experience; basically, you'd feel more menacing and tanky but slow, it would be a different vibe

you're also larger so the melee would make small enemies go flying lol

(though V1 kinda does that already sometimes with the KB idk)

[cloud cedar]

I imagine the shield bash would be slower and stronger like the knuckleblaster but even more extreme

it would probably still have to have the parry though, idk

[amber trench]

yeah parry would work, but like a hulky parry, like bitch-slapping the projectiles like in that meme

[pale leaf]

valid

[amber trench]

like instead of swinging inwards like V1 does, you'd be swinging outwards to parry

[cloud cedar]

I had the idea that instead of the shotgun, you get the swordsmachine's sword

[amber trench]

eh melee is already strong on him, I don't think a sword fits him that well

[cloud cedar]

and that would let you charge forward like demoknight

for some mobility

it doesn't really have a justification, it would just be badass

[amber trench]

I think a fat shotgun would fit his vibe... and maybe shoulder-mounted utility weapons?

like the conduction taser thing, or a railgun?

and you'd be able to parry rockets lol, you can't do that in base game right?

[pale leaf]

some potential add-ons for shield:

• shield has a pseudo-hp bar that decreases over time
• shield health decrease can be slowed with higher style
• move faster + better main gun without the shield
• if shield fully breaks, get a temporary speed buff (enrage)
• replenish when unequipped?
  mostly just brainstorming for fun i'd rather do a swordsmachine mod after i push out the next play v2 update (dunno if i will though)

[cloud cedar]

yeah, you need the jackhammer to deflect rockets

[amber trench]

just slap that shit right out of the air even without shield

and with shield reflect it into enemy

[cloud cedar]

playable swordsmachine is also an idea I had, but it wasn't just a swap playable character mod idea, it was more like an alternate campaign idea

basically I had an idea where you can play an alt campaign where swordsmachine rises up the celestial spheres of heaven

so after beating prelude, you'd go to the moon, not limbo

unfortunately the hard part there is uh... we don't know what any of that looks like in ultrakill

all we get is the act 2 intermission

[amber trench]

wait you the V2 dev?

hoooly based

[pale leaf]

yea

[amber trench]

would you say making a proper, fleshed-out gutterman play-as mod is possible in the engine/env that the game offers?

[pale leaf]

at least we have dante's paradiso could probably apply the same design philosophy that ultrakill has with the inferno
altho idk why swordsmachine would be in heaven

[cloud cedar]

I just wanted it to be different and cool ngl

like my thought was after beating the cerberus, swordsmachine goes to jump in the elevator shaft, but then a beam of holy light just picks up swordsmachine and pulls it up toward heaven

[pale leaf]

my guess is most likely yes. the secret is that i'm the worst coder known to human history though v2 mod runs on hopes and dreams

[cloud cedar]

lmao based

[amber trench]

lol, well, at least knowing it's most likely possible puts my mind at ease

also I finally leveled up yay

[cloud cedar]

also because swordsmachine is a scrapper, I had the idea that all of the weapons would be parts of other machines

like a streetcleaner flamethrower

and the equivalent to the railcannon would be a sentry's sniper head

[pale leaf]

gutterman probably needs more than 250/300 health, and/or some base damage resistance. if you're not mobile you should at least be compensated by not being too squishy (the player is very squishy)

[pale leaf]

Holy Based

[amber trench]

that's what I said, I mentioned that style should give damage resistance, your mod already does that so you'd be familiar with the concept

still thinking about that darn long-jump

h o w does the fat fuck jump like that

xddd

[cloud cedar]

also the railcannon's variants working differently bugs me so what I thought for these was that the 16 second timer they have, only like 60% of it is used up for a primary fire shot, but the secondary fire uses the whole thing and is stronger

[amber trench]

holy shit I know

literally he should be able to bodyslam

bodyslam storage

xddd

[cloud cedar]

ik its probably not what you were referring to, but that made me think of the death animation

so that in turn made me think of the gutterman flopping over

and then bouncing away

[amber trench]

that is precisely what I had in mind lmao

[pale leaf]

combat roll

[cloud cedar]

WAIT FR

[amber trench]

HOOOOLY

dodging mechanic except you're fat-rolling in dark souls except you're a gutterman

[pale leaf]

problem with a full roll is that he'd roll over his coffin

[amber trench]

shite you're right

[pale leaf]

bad mechanic ideas: the roll depletes hp (absolutely not

[amber trench]

there would be slight issues with the map being too small in certain areas

[cloud cedar]

instead of the whiplash, I was thinking that the swordsmachine's mobility arm would be a guttertank rocket launcher that functions like a sidegrade of the freezeframe but with more mobility focus

only gets one rocket at a time, but the freeze has no limit

so you can just stall in place

[amber trench]

local gutterman gets stuck in king minos' corpse's esophagus

[cloud cedar]

lmaoo

[pale leaf]

gutterman would probably need new map designs for 90% of the levels

[cloud cedar]

yeah qwq

at that point just give the gutterman its own campaign

[amber trench]

putting handicapped ramps and bridges over long-jumps

[cloud cedar]

build it more like doom

[amber trench]

cybegrind-exclusive mod (we ran overbudget trying to fix the map)

[pale leaf]

since i'd want to give swordsmachine mod unique weapons, i might steal these ideas IF (big if) something ever happens from my end, i'll hopefully remember to credit

[cloud cedar]

actually I wouldn't mind that tbh, I probably won't ever get to modding it myself

if anything, I could go more in depth with like variants and alternates

another weapon idea I had was a gutterman shield, but the swordsmachine is too cool to use it as a shield, so its a boomerang

[amber trench]

isn't the shield as big as a swordsmachine itself

[cloud cedar]

possibly idr

it would be cool though

[amber trench]

hooooly use it as a skateboard

like legolas in LOTR

[cloud cedar]

dunno how that would work but hell yeah

[amber trench]

basically ctrl-w that V1 does except for the swordsmachine

you'd hop on a shield and go weeee

ahem I should stick to my gutterman concept, I'm too bad at gamedev for a swordsmachine concept

gutterman slow, gutterman stronk, gutterman dont require many braincell

[pale leaf]

gutterman rips apart a guttertank boss fight for parts

[cloud cedar]

just don't include the instakill qwq

that would not be fun

[pale leaf]

you're telling me an instakill boss fight is bad game design???

[cloud cedar]

I already have all of the weapons thought out except for what the three shield variants would do

[amber trench]

quick question, maybe wrong channel for this, but what's the lore behind the one gutterman without a coffin in 7-2

cuz if that guy is alive...

[midnight mirage]

Find a book in the level

[pale leaf]

do you know the building where you get the alt shotgun

[cloud cedar]

the gutterman that shows up in the section where you blow up the bomb is the same gutterman that wrote the poem

[amber trench]

right I did read that, but afaik it doesnt explain how he gets his fuel without the coffin, does it??

did I miss that part?

[cloud cedar]

dude I fucking love that detail 7-2 is the best level in all of gaming

[pale leaf]

i don't think so, i assume life found a way or smth

[cloud cedar]

"that I could take the heart of another, and need you no more"

the reason gutterman have the coffin is that they don't have their own hearts

[pale leaf]

i'm more of a 7-4 glazer tbh, but violence is just generally peak gaming

[cloud cedar]

the person in the coffin pumps the blood for them

[cloud cedar]

its so fire, but I've always been a sucker for fictional war

and 7-2 is the war itself

[cloud cedar]

this is a quote from the poem btw

so the gutterman probably took the heart of another machine

that way it wouldn't need the coffin

[amber trench]

ohhh thats cool... maybe the gutterman play-as concept could thus just not have a coffin... WAIT you could just play as that one dude without the coffin!

that way you can also fat-roll

[cloud cedar]

that solves that issue

[pale leaf]

7-4 is also the war it's just the ending that never was. the next machine to supplant the last

but i digress

[cloud cedar]

mhm

[pale leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

imma compile a list of swordsmachine concepts to sit and rot in a document would be interested to hear your weapon concepts

[amber trench]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-its-all-coming-together-gif-15058130

[cloud cedar]

do you want me to dm the weapon ideas to you later to not clutter public chat with specifics?

[pale leaf]

sure

i doubt posting them here would be a huge issue either

[cloud cedar]

Fair point

[ornate flicker]

can someone please recomend some mods to me

[pale leaf]

as modmakers are obliged to advertise their own mods apparently , Play as V2 is soooo cool guys .... play today ..........

[pale leaf]

the last input i have for gutterman idea is that the fat roll can be a crushing maneuver too +pancaked them bitches

[amber trench]

how the hell have I not thought of that… yessss

[ivory sail]

what happened to fun ultrakill mods
its either weapon skins or slight very specific convenience things