#dusk-modding | New Blood | Page 82

ancient depot Jan 29, 2021, 3:09 PM

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would be SDK -> bin -> win_x64

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 3:10 PM

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I'm here, a particular folder I should look into?

ancient depot Jan 29, 2021, 3:10 PM

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Is there anything with a date in its name?

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 3:10 PM

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nope

ancient depot Jan 29, 2021, 3:10 PM

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Huh, so there's not even a crash log

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 3:10 PM

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I'll just snap a ss

ancient depot Jan 29, 2021, 3:10 PM

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At this point we'll just have to keep firing blind and trying random things until it works lol

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Since it's a hard crash it wouldn't be any mods being installed

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Yeah, the install is as fresh as it gets

ancient depot Jan 29, 2021, 3:11 PM

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It's more likely some program on your computer that isn't compatible with Unity (such as Citrix)

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Or maybe a driver issue

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 3:12 PM

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I've got a shabby GT 705 with the newest avaliable drivers, could that be possibly an issue?

ancient depot Jan 29, 2021, 3:12 PM

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I wouldn't imagine so, but we can't rule it out

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 3:12 PM

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This card is shit, I think my integrated grahpics are better

ancient depot Jan 29, 2021, 3:12 PM

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Do you have any of the following installed:

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Lavasoft Ad-Aware
OpenCandy
Qustodio
Nahimic
Astrill VPN

honest stag Jan 29, 2021, 3:13 PM

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~~Daikatana~~

ancient depot Jan 29, 2021, 3:13 PM

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These are all programs known to be incompatible with Unity games

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 3:13 PM

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No, none of these 😔

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 3:14 PM

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honest stag ~~Daikatana~~

nor this luckily

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So there's still a program causing issues

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ugh

ancient depot Jan 29, 2021, 3:14 PM

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I assume you've tried verifying the files on Steam

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Three times, yeah

honest stag Jan 29, 2021, 3:14 PM

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im no guy to say anything but is it even launching with your main gpu and not the integrated one

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i had somthing similar to that happen

ancient depot Jan 29, 2021, 3:15 PM

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Oh yeah that's another thing to try if you have both

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 3:15 PM

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ancient depot Oh yeah that's another thing to try if you have both

Launching it with the integrated graphics?

ancient depot Jan 29, 2021, 3:15 PM

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yeah

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 3:16 PM

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I'll try once I uninstall unnecessary programs

honest stag Jan 29, 2021, 4:38 PM

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so how is it

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Nothing worked so far. I'll try to change to integrated graphics tomorrow but I think I'll just give up.

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I'll reinstall Windows soon anyways so that should help. Until then, those sexy custom maps will have to wait.

honest stag Jan 29, 2021, 5:08 PM

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shame it didnt work

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but hey something tells me chaging the gpu around will gelp

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help

long pine Jan 29, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Perhaps

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Anyhow, thank you guys so much for trying your best to help me.

frigid cypress Jan 29, 2021, 8:57 PM

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well I did change the light values for the light lamps but that made only a few more lamps work and two of them were coloured but in game did not show up coloured.

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help

foggy creek Jan 29, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Is there anyway to offset the timing intervals on Object_anomaly_fire?

frigid cypress Jan 29, 2021, 11:37 PM

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bruh lamp lights dont worky still

gritty forge Jan 29, 2021, 11:58 PM

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@foggy creek no idea, thought the same about the fireball shooty things

frigid cypress Jan 30, 2021, 3:38 AM

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can I get help on the lamps they dont work, I gave em light values but that only made a few more light lamps work but not all.

gritty forge Jan 30, 2021, 3:52 AM

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do they have the same values

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eughh

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my map needs to have the flashlight removed

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my hard work with lighting will be nullified otherwise :(((

frigid cypress Jan 30, 2021, 4:08 AM

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gritty forge do they have the same values

yes

honest stag Jan 30, 2021, 5:27 AM

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can you show the properties of lamps that dont work @frigid cypress

crisp raven Jan 30, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Looking for Playtesters

gritty forge Jan 30, 2021, 7:37 PM

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crisp raven **Looking for Playtesters**

😳

sharp trail Jan 30, 2021, 9:25 PM

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crisp raven **Looking for Playtesters**

;)

gritty forge Jan 31, 2021, 1:57 AM

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also looking for playtesters lol, I will most likely only get a few this time as I want to keep the level mostly as a surprise with few spoilers

crisp raven Jan 31, 2021, 1:58 AM

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gritty forge also looking for playtesters lol, I will most likely only get a few this time as...

Lay it on me bro

gritty forge Jan 31, 2021, 1:58 AM

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you got it

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gonna fix a zip first

sharp fog Jan 31, 2021, 1:59 AM

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gritty forge also looking for playtesters lol, I will most likely only get a few this time as...

can i be one of the playtester

gritty forge Jan 31, 2021, 2:14 AM

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I don't really know you and I'd prefer to stick with people who have playtested before or that I know have made maps etc

sharp fog Jan 31, 2021, 2:15 AM

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oh ok

gritty forge Jan 31, 2021, 2:15 AM

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you'll still get to enjoy the finished version

sharp fog Jan 31, 2021, 2:15 AM

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ok

alpine depot Jan 31, 2021, 2:29 AM

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give me the maps inject them into my BLOODSTREAM

crimson patrol Jan 31, 2021, 5:46 PM

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📎 mountain.png

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im not really experienced with making mountains or terrain, any tips?

long anchor Jan 31, 2021, 8:09 PM

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any tips?
pray

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terrain - i usually make a really big brush and cut it in a little pieces, then adjust it with vertex tool

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so it looks like this

📎 Screenshot_6.png

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did the same with wall part

📎 Screenshot_7.png

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big background mountains tho...

sharp trail Jan 31, 2021, 8:13 PM

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long anchor > any tips? pray

lmao

long anchor Jan 31, 2021, 8:14 PM

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long anchor big background mountains tho...

tbh no idea, i have them in lower and they look decent on the side you can observe, but behind they look horrible

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explicit material

📎 SPOILER_Screenshot_8.png

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😬

gritty forge Jan 31, 2021, 8:20 PM

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currently changing like 25% of all the light values in my map because people thought it was too dark ✌️ 😣

long anchor Jan 31, 2021, 8:21 PM

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it happens

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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at some point i was thinking about completely remaking lower 2 because i think it's just not as good as the first one

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i just kept going

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and now i have some tricks up my map

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💥

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now i just have to finish it

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one day...

chrome hornet Jan 31, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Just picked up DUSK today, still making my way through the campaign, if I wanted to dabble in some map making afterwards could anyone point me in the right direction to start?

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Just seen the pinned posts 🙂 I'll have a nosey through them

crimson patrol Jan 31, 2021, 10:56 PM

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Oh thanks veven

sharp fog Jan 31, 2021, 11:59 PM

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i need help on making mods and downloading trenchbroom

crisp raven Feb 1, 2021, 1:06 AM

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long anchor one day...

Which comes first, Lower 2 or the switch release?

crisp raven Feb 1, 2021, 1:13 AM

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sharp fog i need help on making mods and downloading trenchbroom

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2298392941

Steam Community :: Guide :: Ultimate guide to Dusk Mapmaking

All the other guides on how to make maps for dusk are awful. This one will teach you how, and by the end of this guide you'll be set with a workshop of tools that'll let you make maps for dusk!...

sharp fog Feb 1, 2021, 1:13 AM

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thanks

crisp raven Feb 1, 2021, 1:13 AM

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chrome hornet Just picked up DUSK today, still making my way through the campaign, if I wanted...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2298392941

Steam Community :: Guide :: Ultimate guide to Dusk Mapmaking

All the other guides on how to make maps for dusk are awful. This one will teach you how, and by the end of this guide you'll be set with a workshop of tools that'll let you make maps for dusk!...

sharp fog Feb 1, 2021, 3:41 AM

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crisp raven https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2298392941

idk if you know how to help me but idk were to open trenchbroom

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 4:05 AM

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Watch dumptruck_ds on youtube

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he explains all of it properly

sharp fog Feb 1, 2021, 6:02 AM

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honest stag Watch dumptruck_ds on youtube

that did not help me

crisp raven Feb 1, 2021, 6:04 AM

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sharp fog that did not help me

What's the problem?

sharp fog Feb 1, 2021, 6:06 AM

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i can't find were the were to open trenchbroom

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i look at the trenchbroom folder and they is no .exe in the folder

crisp raven Feb 1, 2021, 6:07 AM

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I see

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Could you send a screenshot of what's inside the folder?

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 6:33 AM

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ok

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did you download the source code

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cuz it sounds like you downloaded the source code

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and not the release

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@sharp fog

sharp fog Feb 1, 2021, 6:34 AM

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i did

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 6:34 AM

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so you got the source code?

sharp fog Feb 1, 2021, 6:38 AM

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how do i extract TrenchBroom-Win64-v2020.2-Release.7z

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 6:38 AM

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i mean-

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it's a zip file

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just open it and drag stuff out of it into a folder

gritty forge Feb 1, 2021, 6:39 AM

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I think the trenchbroom setup is best to do with dumptruck's video tbh

sharp fog Feb 1, 2021, 6:40 AM

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it's .7z

gritty forge Feb 1, 2021, 6:40 AM

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because you have winrar

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it's the same thing

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 6:40 AM

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📎 unknown.png

sharp fog Feb 1, 2021, 6:45 AM

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i don't have winrar

gritty forge Feb 1, 2021, 7:13 AM

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I just noticed that props in vanilla dusk seem to be baked to have a certain light level at all times but in the SDK it changes

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I might be wrong but at least it was the case in the infernal machine where I looked

long anchor Feb 1, 2021, 8:46 AM

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crisp raven Which comes first, Lower 2 or the switch release?

heh_heh

long anchor Feb 1, 2021, 10:35 AM

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i really want to finish my Lower series, i still have a ton of cool ideas

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 10:36 AM

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lower was pog

gritty forge Feb 1, 2021, 10:36 AM

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I'm working on my 5 level episode 2/3

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 10:36 AM

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thinking of replaying it

gritty forge Feb 1, 2021, 10:36 AM

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but I havent done ep1

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lol

long anchor Feb 1, 2021, 10:36 AM

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I might not like Lower 2 in terms of boomer shooter level design and stuff

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but

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i think it would be great as half-life map

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it's kinda linear, it has some cool setpieces

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i even tried putting some effort on visual storytelling

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my point is, it has some cool ideas that theoretically can over outweigh the bad parts

long anchor Feb 1, 2021, 10:39 AM

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honest stag lower was pog

you are pog

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I'm working on my 5 level episode 2/3
but I havent done ep1
i missed so many custom maps

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recently i only played all the jam maps and that's it

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not even aqua's maps

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 10:44 AM

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long anchor you are pog

😳

crimson patrol Feb 1, 2021, 10:55 AM

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📎 wip2.png

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sneaky peaky nr2

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 11:34 AM

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lookin good man

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go disable the soft map bounds though

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@crimson patrol

crimson patrol Feb 1, 2021, 11:34 AM

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soft map bounds?

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ohh

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 11:35 AM

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da orang

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right 'ere at the bottom

📎 unknown.png

crimson patrol Feb 1, 2021, 11:36 AM

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yeah i did that

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for a while i questioned the weird orange shading

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thats better

📎 wip2.png

long anchor Feb 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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what are soft map bounds?

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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just something to remind you of default quake map limits

long anchor Feb 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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just as i thought

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thanks

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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"soft" cuz it's not actually stopping you from overgoing them

long anchor Feb 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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also i guess half life too? since TB now has HL preset too?

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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just points that out

long anchor Feb 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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ah i see

honest stag Feb 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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no clue

gritty forge Feb 1, 2021, 5:10 PM

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wow

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im playing hrot for the first time and there's a sewage treatment plant

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I made a sewage treatment plant in dusk...

worn umbra Feb 1, 2021, 5:11 PM

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damn so did i tf

gritty forge Feb 1, 2021, 5:11 PM

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well mine's a GORE sewage treatment plant

worn umbra Feb 1, 2021, 5:12 PM

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eh fair enough

frigid cypress Feb 1, 2021, 5:55 PM

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make every map in dusk into a literal gorefest.

long anchor Feb 1, 2021, 6:09 PM

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~~wait for Lower 3~~

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malicioushappy

gritty forge Feb 1, 2021, 6:22 PM

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I just noticed how fucked the fish enemy textures are

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it's made out of bone for some reason

crimson patrol Feb 1, 2021, 6:23 PM

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bonr

frigid cypress Feb 1, 2021, 7:04 PM

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honest stag can you show the properties of lamps that dont work <@!754124384192561263>

📎 unknown.png

long anchor Feb 1, 2021, 7:25 PM

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🤔

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what does your light target

frigid cypress Feb 1, 2021, 7:31 PM

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info_null

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is there also a way to disable infighting?

gritty forge Feb 1, 2021, 9:00 PM

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why does it target anything

crisp raven Feb 1, 2021, 9:04 PM

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frigid cypress is there also a way to disable infighting?

No. You can help make it less common by placing the enemies so they dont hit each other as much

frigid cypress Feb 1, 2021, 9:04 PM

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ok

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but can you help me with the light lamps?

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take a look at the light values up

crisp raven Feb 1, 2021, 9:10 PM

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frigid cypress take a look at the light values up

Do they start working if you make them not target something

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?

frigid cypress Feb 1, 2021, 9:11 PM

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idk I didnt try untargeting

crisp raven Feb 1, 2021, 9:11 PM

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Give it a try

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Might work

frigid cypress Feb 1, 2021, 9:25 PM

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@crisp raven Yo it was fixed, this thorn in my side is gone thx

crisp raven Feb 1, 2021, 9:26 PM

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😉 gotchu

bold orbit Feb 1, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Note to self

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it is monster_shambler
not monster_timbler

gritty forge Feb 1, 2021, 9:55 PM

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LOL

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monster_tiddler

frigid cypress Feb 1, 2021, 10:11 PM

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this wendigo keeps getting stuck in this corner despite not being put in that corner!

📎 unknown.png

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alot of enemies get stuck in their position

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how can I fix?

bold orbit Feb 1, 2021, 10:17 PM

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Does that corner happen to be the origin

frigid cypress Feb 1, 2021, 10:20 PM

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of what?

crimson patrol Feb 1, 2021, 10:24 PM

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For entities theres a value called "origin"

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Normally it just says the coordinates of the enemy or whatever

frigid cypress Feb 1, 2021, 10:51 PM

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so how do I fix?

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📎 unknown.png

crimson patrol Feb 1, 2021, 11:15 PM

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Do they agro prematurely or spawn like that

gritty forge Feb 1, 2021, 11:19 PM

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(do they move while they are like that in the wall or are they standing still)

frigid cypress Feb 1, 2021, 11:25 PM

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it somehow end up in that corner and just get stuck there.

gritty forge Feb 1, 2021, 11:29 PM

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ok but does it move

frigid cypress Feb 2, 2021, 12:06 AM

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wat

gritty forge Feb 2, 2021, 12:23 AM

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does the wendigo m o v e

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as in

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does its animation play

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or is it stationary

frigid cypress Feb 2, 2021, 1:36 AM

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no it keeps walking in the same place @gritty forge

honest stag Feb 2, 2021, 1:43 AM

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gritty forge why does it target anything

that creates a spotlight

high magnet Feb 2, 2021, 4:47 AM

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Try aligning the rivet platform with the wall

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So instead of being like this

📎 Capture.PNG

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It'd be like this

📎 Capture2.PNG

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Possibly with the snap vertices to grid tool

honest stag Feb 2, 2021, 5:58 AM

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also a longshot but

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trz moving the light entities off the ground

gritty forge Feb 2, 2021, 9:06 AM

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@honest stag he fixed the lights

honest stag Feb 2, 2021, 9:07 AM

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aight

gritty forge Feb 2, 2021, 3:28 PM

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is there some way I can make images have the quake color palette?

honest stag Feb 2, 2021, 3:29 PM

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make then brown

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Boom done

gritty forge Feb 2, 2021, 3:29 PM

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but I want the colours of the image to be matched with the nearest possible color that the palette has

honest stag Feb 2, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Wont that be done automatically?

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Try it

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As-is i mean

gritty forge Feb 2, 2021, 3:31 PM

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hmm

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ok

frigid cypress Feb 2, 2021, 6:51 PM

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what are the other options for?

📎 unknown.png

sharp trail Feb 2, 2021, 6:59 PM

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just take absoloute

frigid cypress Feb 2, 2021, 6:59 PM

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k

crisp raven Feb 2, 2021, 7:34 PM

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Looking for playtesters. It's just for a single floor, about 31 enemies.

gritty forge Feb 2, 2021, 7:38 PM

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wtf

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already

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holy shit

crisp raven Feb 2, 2021, 7:39 PM

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You up to the task?

gritty forge Feb 2, 2021, 7:39 PM

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sure

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:)

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maybe I'll play it tomorrow though

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I'd love to see a func_scrolling or something, to make textures move for waterfalls etc

sharp trail Feb 2, 2021, 7:46 PM

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crisp raven **Looking for playtesters.** It's just for a single floor, about 31 enemies.

ay ay ay

frigid cypress Feb 2, 2021, 11:34 PM

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crisp raven **Looking for playtesters.** It's just for a single floor, about 31 enemies.

Can I?

crisp raven Feb 3, 2021, 12:01 AM

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sure

frigid cypress Feb 3, 2021, 12:08 AM

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damn thats a hard map

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its pretty good

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thats alot of enemies for only scarce ammo and weapons

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very fun

frigid cypress Feb 3, 2021, 3:16 PM

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When I am not busy I will ask someone to fix the enemy teleports cause I don't know how to make them work.

honest stag Feb 3, 2021, 3:17 PM

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Send me the map and say where's the teleport that doesnt work

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I can't go full on fixibg mode but ill take a quick look

crimson patrol Feb 3, 2021, 3:18 PM

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vriska's mere presence isntantly fixes faulty teleporters

gritty forge Feb 3, 2021, 4:39 PM

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lul

frigid cypress Feb 3, 2021, 4:51 PM

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I really should study maps more to makes em look more natural and real when I start making maps that try to look real.

spice thorn Feb 3, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Hey, I've got a general question. What's the software you're using for making Dusk mods? What features does it have?

crimson patrol Feb 3, 2021, 5:48 PM

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check pins on this channel

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you'll get some basic info on it

crisp raven Feb 3, 2021, 5:59 PM

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spice thorn Hey, I've got a general question. What's the software you're using for making Du...

https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases

GitHub

Releases · TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom

Cross-Platform Level Editor. Contribute to TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom development by creating an account on GitHub.

crisp raven Feb 3, 2021, 8:01 PM

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@honest stag Object_minecart floats

📎 20210203145719_1.jpg

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📎 TrenchBroom_2021-02-03_15-00-01.png

honest stag Feb 3, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Aware

crisp raven Feb 3, 2021, 10:10 PM

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Ah

vestal needle Feb 4, 2021, 11:49 AM

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any maps out for DUSK rn that push you to use infighting in interesting ways to preserve ammo? maybe by restricting movement and giving you the sword with deflect ability?

honest stag Feb 4, 2021, 11:51 AM

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not really
Trespasser is sword/sickle only tho

vestal needle Feb 4, 2021, 12:43 PM

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compiling Trenchboom now 👀

honest stag Feb 4, 2021, 12:44 PM

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ey nice
why not get the compiled release though?

vestal needle Feb 4, 2021, 12:44 PM

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because i'm on NixOS, i'm going to push a package definition upstream:

{ stdenv, cmake, git, libGLU, qt5Full, freetype, xorg }:

stdenv.mkDerivation {
  name = "trenchboom";
  src = ./.;
  buildInputs = [ cmake git libGLU qt5Full freetype xorg.libX11 ];
}

honest stag Feb 4, 2021, 12:44 PM

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ah alright

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i dont get it

vestal needle Feb 4, 2021, 12:46 PM

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i would have started modding Dusk earlier

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i thought i was so stupid, i kept enabling the SDK and nothing happened even after updating

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eventually months later i learned that there is no linux executable for the SDK so if you turn it on nothing happens lol

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i updated the wiki so nobody else gets stuck, but now i'm excited to get started

vestal needle Feb 4, 2021, 12:47 PM

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honest stag *i dont get it*

none of the compiled releases will run on my system, it's just debs and rpms and maybe a dynamically linked binary

honest stag Feb 4, 2021, 12:47 PM

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alright yea that makes sense

vestal needle Feb 4, 2021, 12:48 PM

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i know that for DOOM there are some speedmapping compos to help people get started in the scene, is there anything like that (community map-making events) for Dusk?

honest stag Feb 4, 2021, 12:48 PM

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yes
we had one so far, another one is coming in aprikl

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i'll link the map pack

vestal needle Feb 4, 2021, 12:49 PM

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thank you, i have the xmas map jam pack

honest stag Feb 4, 2021, 12:49 PM

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april/march*

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yea that

vestal needle Feb 4, 2021, 12:49 PM

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that's how i realized Dusk mods were a thing 🙂

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after playing the quake xmas map jam pack

honest stag Feb 4, 2021, 12:49 PM

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they're great, and there's a big big update coming

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eventually

vestal needle Feb 4, 2021, 12:50 PM

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awesome, thanks for the info

honest stag Feb 4, 2021, 12:51 PM

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np, enjoy moddin

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there's really good trenchbroom tutorials on youtube by dumptruck_ds

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they teach basically 90% of the things needed to map for dusk

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and the .fgd with dusk entities is in the pinned messages

vestal needle Feb 4, 2021, 12:59 PM

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damn even ravenkeep loads! i'm surprised how many quake maps i have that work out of the box

honest stag Feb 4, 2021, 1:00 PM

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half life maps should too

lusty wing Feb 4, 2021, 6:10 PM

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hi everyone

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I have some experience in mapping and love what Dusk has done with retro feel and whatnot. Been playing quake, painkiller and Q3 for a long time and I was very happy to see an SDK!

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I'm working on converting some Painkiller multiplayer maps to Dusk

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but I'm seeing there isn't really much server support. Doing it just for fun 🙂

crisp raven Feb 4, 2021, 6:11 PM

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Yeah you cannot make maps for MP yet

lusty wing Feb 4, 2021, 6:12 PM

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Yeah one day maybe 🙂

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Anyways, just wanted to say THANK YOU for posting the steam mapping guide as it had way better instructions than the Dusk wiki

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I was so lost LOL

crisp raven Feb 4, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Thank Qdude he did all the work

lusty wing Feb 4, 2021, 6:21 PM

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I can tell it was a lot of trial/error lol

foggy creek Feb 4, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Does anyone know what Dusk dude's terminal velocity is?

honest stag Feb 4, 2021, 9:50 PM

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fast per hour

gritty forge Feb 4, 2021, 10:44 PM

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I hope my map isn’t too long now lol

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I extended it a bit

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Good addition though

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I kinda like long maps though

merry flare Feb 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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foggy creek Does anyone know what Dusk dude's terminal velocity is?

Doomguy's running speed times 1000 probably idk.

foggy creek Feb 5, 2021, 6:24 PM

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I meant like his max falling speed

merry flare Feb 5, 2021, 7:47 PM

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idfk

crimson patrol Feb 6, 2021, 5:14 PM

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i think ya gotta ask zombie for the statistics, i can't think of a way to measure duskdude's falling speed

broken ridge Feb 6, 2021, 6:19 PM

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while [very loosely] on that note, anyone know how many pixels high a step can be for duskdude to walk over it without having to jump?

crimson patrol Feb 6, 2021, 7:02 PM

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Umm, somewhere between 12-16 quake units if I'm correct

gritty forge Feb 6, 2021, 8:45 PM

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16 I think

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pretty sure

broken ridge Feb 6, 2021, 9:16 PM

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thanks a ton

analog finch Feb 6, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Ay lads, so I've got a few quick question. I went through the process of getting my hands on and configuring TrenchBroom, but I'm curious. If I were to load my Quake map into Dusk with Quake Entities, would they be replaced by the Entities in Dusk? Not textures of course, I've already implemented those. On the other hand, I've been trying to get my map to appear on the modlist, but Dusk's menu will always show it as blank. I've made sure to enable my mod in the menu, but still the Custom Levels Menu continues to show up blank. Is this something that I need to wait on the SDK /Future TrenchBroom updates for? I apologize for the mini wall of text, but I wanted to make sure I did all my research before giving my shpeel here.

foggy creek Feb 6, 2021, 10:27 PM

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analog finch Ay lads, so I've got a few quick question. I went through the process of getting...

The only stock quake entities I think that would get replaced are the weapons, ammo, and enemies. As for the map not appearing that's most likely a pathing issue because for a map to be loadable there needs to be a folder in you mod folder called "maps." for example: Modfolder/maps/bspfile

analog finch Feb 6, 2021, 10:32 PM

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Right, I made sure I had a maps folder. I'm watching another Trenchbroom Tut right now to see if there's anything I missed in that regard. Thanks lad, much appreciated!

gritty forge Feb 6, 2021, 11:16 PM

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quake enemies get converted

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but only a few

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there are more dusk enemies I think so yea

spice thorn Feb 6, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Interesting hmm2

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Speaking of TrenchBroom - is this the software used by the devs to make vanilla Dusk maps?

crisp raven Feb 6, 2021, 11:28 PM

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spice thorn Speaking of TrenchBroom - is this the software used by the devs to make vanilla ...

No. They used a Unity plugin called ProBuilder I think

gritty forge Feb 7, 2021, 2:48 AM

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yup

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would've probably saved David lots of time by just making all the levels for the game be bsp's so he could use trenchbroom, then the SDK would be largely done and his map making could've been faster and more advanced

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but I'm not gonna pretend that I know whether there were any particular reasons he didn't do it

foggy creek Feb 7, 2021, 3:18 AM

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gritty forge but I'm not gonna pretend that I know whether there were any particular reasons ...

I'm pretty sure base dusk maps use static meshes instead of BSP as BSP is very optimised and it would have probably been easier in unity.

spice thorn Feb 7, 2021, 10:10 AM

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BSP stands for Binary Space Partioning, doesn't it?

After reading about Id Tech 1 engine - the '93 Doom engine - it seems like a neat little system where the sectors data is stored and accessed via a binary tree

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Is it also present in the Quake's engine or Source engine?

gritty forge Feb 7, 2021, 12:50 PM

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Yea

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Idk about source but quake yes

foggy creek Feb 7, 2021, 1:48 PM

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spice thorn Is it also present in the Quake's engine or Source engine?

It's present in both but Source has support for dynamic meshes via displacements

gritty forge Feb 7, 2021, 2:58 PM

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yea

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what he said

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😳

frigid cypress Feb 7, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Is there a way to add a sun color?

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to your map?

alpine depot Feb 7, 2021, 6:55 PM

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sunlight_color and sunlight2_color

ocean shard Feb 7, 2021, 8:35 PM

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when i put dusk transparent.wad to trenchbroom all textures are just pink square things

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like two dark squares and two pink squares

frigid cypress Feb 7, 2021, 8:36 PM

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alpine depot `sunlight_color` and `sunlight2_color`

what does sunlight 2 color do?

alpine depot Feb 7, 2021, 8:39 PM

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it changes the color of the _sunlight2 key-value in worldspawn

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granted you have it set to begin with

analog finch Feb 7, 2021, 11:09 PM

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I still seem to be having trouble getting my map to show up in the Custom Levels menu. I double checked the folders, renamed the map to be one word, made sure that I had all the necessary components installed. I can see that the mod is available to enable from the Modding Menu, and yet it yields no maps. I saw you guys talking about .bsp files earlier, should I take a crack at trying to use that file instead of the .map file?

still raptor Feb 7, 2021, 11:15 PM

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.maps do not work

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you have to compile it to bsp

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@analog finch

analog finch Feb 7, 2021, 11:15 PM

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Gotcha! No wonder it wasn't working. Thanks lad, I try plopping the .bsp in there.

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IT'S ALIVE! Got it working! Thanks a ton 500

still raptor Feb 7, 2021, 11:19 PM

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np

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 9:48 AM

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I can't wait to be able to make my own weapons for dusk

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 10:41 AM

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start modelling them

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i already have a full pack ready

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:05 PM

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@honest stag what software do you use for it

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:05 PM

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blender

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:05 PM

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Fair

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Need to learn how to use it

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😊

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:06 PM

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it's... uh
it wasnt easy for me

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:06 PM

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I have some cool ideas for a weapon mod

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:06 PM

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i kinda suffered lol

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:06 PM

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Lool

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I’ve worked in solidworks

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:06 PM

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in fact im still not exactly sure what im doing

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:06 PM

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now THAT

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It’s a CAD program so it doesn’t have the same kind of practical applications but it’s a 3D modelling software nevertheless

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:09 PM

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while most blender tutorials were helpful to some degree, there's 2 things that i didnt like
first is that they focus too much on explaining the interface iwthout actually making you utilize it, so you just forget it - the best tutorials were the ones where you actually make stuff
a well, animals, all that stuff were very helpful

second is anything to do with texturing and uv mapping

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what i know about it i had to figure out myself because all tutorials were so confusing and sometimes plainly... uh wrong?

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:10 PM

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I wonder what language modded items would be made through

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idk what language dusk uses normally either

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:10 PM

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c

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Ah

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I’ve worked with C# a bit

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Not c though

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:11 PM

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well actually sorry

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im pretty sure C will be uised for user stuff

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:11 PM

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why

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:11 PM

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i dont know what dusk dudes use themselves

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:12 PM

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gritty forge why

dunno, i dont know code

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just repeating what they said

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:12 PM

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Oh someone said it

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ok

crimson patrol Feb 8, 2021, 2:13 PM

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are there any good tutorials you found on blender, vriska?

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:14 PM

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Is there some specific file format or something that models use

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:15 PM

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iqm

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:15 PM

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idk if we know that sort of info yet

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:15 PM

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inter-quake model

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:15 PM

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oh ok

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:15 PM

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i have a model replacement tutorial video

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it's bad tho

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Are there any limitations for how advanced the models can be in that format

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:15 PM

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also regarding blender tutorials

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:15 PM

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like

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polygon count etc

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:16 PM

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i used the basic blender tutorials on camera controls, then followed a couple where a guy made a giraffe and a well

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after that i started making stuff myself and googled any specific stuff i needed to know

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:16 PM

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I watched an Indian man make a tire in solidworks

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saved my project

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XD

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:16 PM

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gritty forge Are there any limitations for how advanced the models can be in that format

not that im aware of

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none*

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Indian tutorial channels: saving college students since idk whenever youtube became a thing

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:17 PM

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whatever english isnt my second language there's my excuse

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Isn’t?

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:18 PM

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isnt first*

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fuck

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:18 PM

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I mean

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you speak english well

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Imo

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:18 PM

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it's a bit of a pain to port models into dusk cuz the scale isnt clear and the plugin isnt perfect either

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Oof

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I imagine that will get better?

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:19 PM

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the devs arent the creators of the plugin

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Ah

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:19 PM

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the only thing that can get better is us having a better guess of the size i guess

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:20 PM

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What if you open one of the weapon models in blender and use it as reference?

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Idk if we can do that

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:20 PM

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they dont work right, i tried

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 2:20 PM

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:(

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 2:20 PM

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iqm is export-only as well

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i had to use .obj and .blend files

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and im still not sure

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so like i cant take an existing iqm from dusk and match my custom monster with it

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 3:09 PM

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is there some good way I can calculate a good sun angle for my map without spending 100 hours on it and making test maps etc

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I just want a slightly angled sun

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 3:11 PM

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you can just make a light entity and give is a _sun key set to 1 i think

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And have it target an info_null

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That's your sunlight direction now

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Im not sure if you need to duplicate sunlight properties on it too

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@gritty forge skade

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Oops double

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Fuckibg phone discord i swear to god

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 3:19 PM

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YES

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I achieved lighting

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I just messed with values though

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too lazy to bother with new things

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now..

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📎 unknown.png

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how do I make these look.. Not trash?

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 3:22 PM

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I think you can parent them to a light that matches the light around it

gritty forge Feb 8, 2021, 3:22 PM

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how I do

honest stag Feb 8, 2021, 3:24 PM

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Not 100% sure since i haven't used it but

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you set the parentname of the child you want to be the targetname of the parent i think

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Holy fucking shit i hate phone discord kill me

last talon Feb 8, 2021, 3:38 PM

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dont we all

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you'd think all that nitro cash would pay for a good mobile app

crisp raven Feb 10, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Looking for playtesters

gritty forge Feb 10, 2021, 6:47 PM

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^ is secretly a 24/7 map-making AI

crisp raven Feb 10, 2021, 7:15 PM

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In the future, maps will be randomly generated

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Oh wait...

crimson patrol Feb 10, 2021, 7:17 PM

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h

alpine depot Feb 10, 2021, 7:33 PM

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weedeater.bsp

foggy creek Feb 12, 2021, 9:34 AM

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Is there anyway to make a trigger brush only trigger after for instance a button is pressed?

honest stag Feb 12, 2021, 9:36 AM

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could there be a dumb workaround with parenting the trigger to a door

foggy creek Feb 12, 2021, 9:39 AM

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That would probably work

crimson patrol Feb 12, 2021, 11:10 AM

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the thing you have to know is that there is always a dumb workaround

tiny pasture Feb 12, 2021, 12:43 PM

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I mean doors are how they made everything work in the main game

final rover Feb 13, 2021, 1:56 AM

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Hey, is it possible to overwrite voice over lines? I'm trying to replace the dialogue of the mages, but it isn't working at all for me

sharp trail Feb 13, 2021, 11:45 AM

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have you made sure that the sound files are .flac files?

honest stag Feb 13, 2021, 11:46 AM

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not all sounds are replacable rn

final rover Feb 13, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Yeah, I figured that was the case. And yeah, I made sure they were all flacs

frigid cypress Feb 14, 2021, 8:19 PM

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New version of Trenchbroom got released just a heads up

bold orbit Feb 15, 2021, 5:35 AM

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panik

gritty forge Feb 15, 2021, 3:04 PM

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make cultists say boob and ass 😳

last talon Feb 15, 2021, 3:49 PM

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no

fathom ibex Feb 15, 2021, 8:12 PM

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what kind of mods do you all use?

sharp trail Feb 16, 2021, 12:07 AM

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jusr browse the mod page

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its mostly maps and texture mods

crisp raven Feb 16, 2021, 12:12 AM

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sharp trail its mostly maps and texture mods

||Dusk Drip when? ||

dense gull Feb 16, 2021, 8:11 AM

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hi

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should I buy this game?

honest stag Feb 16, 2021, 8:11 AM

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Yea

sharp trail Feb 16, 2021, 12:41 PM

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Yea

sharp trail Feb 16, 2021, 12:46 PM

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crisp raven ||Dusk Drip when? ||

sometime maybe

haughty pulsar Feb 16, 2021, 8:45 PM

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gritty forge

tree

honest stag Feb 18, 2021, 10:40 AM

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hope ya folks are refining your skills for the upcoming map jam

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it's only a couple weeks away

crimson patrol Feb 18, 2021, 11:17 AM

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ooo

gritty forge Feb 18, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Ooh shieet

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not sure if I can participate though because of school

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I’ll give it a try prolly

crimson patrol Feb 19, 2021, 10:17 AM

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sneak peek

honest stag Feb 19, 2021, 10:18 AM

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eyyyyy lookin real good

gritty forge Feb 19, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Looking good joker

gritty forge Feb 19, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Superb environment!

frigid cypress Feb 19, 2021, 2:23 PM

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crimson patrol sneak peek

how long have you been working on this map lol

crimson patrol Feb 19, 2021, 4:42 PM

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2 months

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most of that was learning

crisp raven Feb 19, 2021, 5:18 PM

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crimson patrol sneak peek

With those mountains it looks more like a sneak PEAK 😉

crimson patrol Feb 19, 2021, 5:33 PM

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ehehe

gritty forge Feb 20, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Hoping to get my 2nd map finished soon

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but I’m hating working on this underwater part cause it’s so buggy

warm badge Feb 21, 2021, 4:56 AM

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do monsters still have problems with passing through opened doors? i remember this was an issue a long time ago, just got back around to try out some dusk mapping again and it seems like its still a problem unless i'm doing something wrong

honest stag Feb 21, 2021, 5:03 AM

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yes

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there is a wonky workaround though and it doesnt always work

warm badge Feb 21, 2021, 5:04 AM

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hmm, thats too bad, i'd rather just wait for it to not be a problem rather than using awkward fixes lol

honest stag Feb 21, 2021, 5:05 AM

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could also design maps to not have crucial doors like that

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it's harder but possible

warm badge Feb 21, 2021, 5:06 AM

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yeah for sure, but i'd prefer to have all the functionality of the actual game in place

frail vine Feb 22, 2021, 1:11 AM

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Is it possible to make custom deathmatch maps?

honest stag Feb 22, 2021, 1:19 AM

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nope

frail vine Feb 22, 2021, 1:26 AM

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darn roomba

gritty forge Feb 22, 2021, 3:17 AM

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Owned

meager plaza Feb 22, 2021, 3:34 PM

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idk if this is the right place to ask but does the doosk mod include an endless mode?

honest stag Feb 23, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Ask in #general-modding thats where the doosk guy is

wet plover Feb 23, 2021, 12:45 AM

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Can mods work in multiplayer yet?

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in other words custom maps for multiplayer

tiny pasture Feb 23, 2021, 12:54 AM

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No

wet plover Feb 23, 2021, 12:59 AM

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@tiny pasture is there anything in the pipeline for support of that?

tiny pasture Feb 23, 2021, 12:59 AM

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I don’t know

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Maybe

wet plover Feb 23, 2021, 1:00 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/may-pokemon-scared-pokémon-scared-may-pokémon-pokemon-may-pokémon-may-gif-20312158

Tenor

ancient depot Feb 23, 2021, 2:06 AM

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@wet plover Multiplayer modding is in the works, yes

meager plaza Feb 23, 2021, 7:15 AM

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honest stag Ask in <#431185291831803904> thats where the doosk guy is

alright thanks

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also what about a quick switch mod for dusk?

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there is a delay while switching weapons even while using keybinds

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well ping me or something if there is anything like that lol

honest stag Feb 23, 2021, 7:32 AM

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we cant do things like that yet

meager plaza Feb 23, 2021, 7:40 AM

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why?

honest stag Feb 23, 2021, 7:47 AM

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cuz scripting isnt a thing

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we can make maps, replace sounds/textures and some models

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that's it

meager plaza Feb 23, 2021, 9:22 AM

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oh

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damn

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will we able to do that in the future then?

ancient depot Feb 23, 2021, 9:25 AM

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yes

dusk folio Feb 24, 2021, 4:00 AM

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My favourite Dusk mod

tall zenith Feb 24, 2021, 4:16 AM

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.mute @nimble hemlock

loud portalBOT Feb 24, 2021, 4:16 AM

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Gilby#1337 cosmosdestroyer#5053 has been muted from text and voice chat.

primal sparrow Feb 24, 2021, 4:16 AM

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Thanks

crisp raven Feb 24, 2021, 4:16 AM

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👌

tall zenith Feb 24, 2021, 4:20 AM

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such a long spam message the bot wasn't even able to log it

honest stag Feb 24, 2021, 5:23 AM

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what happened

ancient depot Feb 24, 2021, 5:26 AM

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someone spammed never gonna give you up lyrics

honest stag Feb 24, 2021, 5:26 AM

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how funny

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absolutely hysterical

crimson patrol Feb 24, 2021, 6:40 AM

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peak of comedy right there

merry flare Feb 24, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Yo for map jam should I make a map that is intentionally horrible?

sharp trail Feb 24, 2021, 1:37 PM

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ask torii if its legal

merry flare Feb 24, 2021, 1:39 PM

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k

wet plover Feb 24, 2021, 6:26 PM

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@ancient depot I cant wait ! U w U

elfin warren Feb 24, 2021, 11:00 PM

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I'm currently trying to make a map in trenchbroom but the lighting doesn't work when I load up the map, any suggestions?

gritty forge Feb 24, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Did you run it through the light compiler?

elfin warren Feb 24, 2021, 11:22 PM

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I did

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I'll give it another run

still raptor Feb 24, 2021, 11:23 PM

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just checking, does your map at least have textures?

elfin warren Feb 24, 2021, 11:23 PM

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Okay, I managed to fix it. I just had to set the light value to a high value

elfin warren Feb 24, 2021, 11:23 PM

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still raptor just checking, does your map at least have textures?

I got that sorted first thing

still raptor Feb 24, 2021, 11:24 PM

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oh good

elfin warren Feb 25, 2021, 12:14 AM

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I have 1 more question. How do you change the skybox?

honest stag Feb 25, 2021, 1:32 AM

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it's a bit complex

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hold on i'll pull up the copy paste message

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you need to add some worldspawn properties
a total of 6, for each side of the cube
and add the side textures to your mod folder
so it would look like this
"sky_up" "textures/skybox_top.png"
"sky_down" "textures/skybox_stars_bottom.png"
"sky_left" "textures/skybox_left.png"
"sky_right" "textures/skybox_right.png"
"sky_back" "textures/skybox_stars_back.png"
"sky_front" "textures/skybox_stars_front.png"
the file names are anything obviously
so like we're just applying each individual texture to the sides of the cube skybox in-game

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left and right are swapped though

gritty forge Feb 25, 2021, 2:07 AM

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Igjht time to change every skybox to Peter Griffin

honest stag Feb 25, 2021, 2:07 AM

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only for the custom maps that you have a .map for

gritty forge Feb 25, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Sadface

elfin warren Feb 25, 2021, 2:32 AM

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honest stag you need to add some worldspawn properties a total of 6, for each side of the cu...

Thank you :)

bold orbit Feb 25, 2021, 3:55 PM

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Does Cartdog not have an IQM in the SDK folder?

ancient depot Feb 25, 2021, 4:04 PM

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Not currently, because like the Leatherneck it's a bit of a complex case

bold orbit Feb 25, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Alright

gritty forge Feb 25, 2021, 9:23 PM

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||because the model is a mess||

honest stag Feb 25, 2021, 9:24 PM

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I thought it's because it's split in 2 or something

gritty forge Feb 25, 2021, 9:52 PM

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but then you could just merge them?

honest stag Feb 25, 2021, 9:53 PM

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I don't think its that simple, but then again im.probably talking out of my ass

bold orbit Feb 25, 2021, 10:30 PM

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I wanted to fix the dog

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to see what it looks like

ancient depot Feb 26, 2021, 5:18 AM

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The model is split into separate objects in the game, and isn't animated with bones

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So there's no way to directly export it to IQM

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So I need to generate a skeleton and animations for it from the movements

bold orbit Feb 26, 2021, 6:23 PM

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ow

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So I'm not modding in Cart Table afterall, then

crimson patrol Feb 27, 2021, 10:31 AM

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train sneek peek

honest stag Feb 27, 2021, 10:31 AM

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wow that looks amazing

sharp trail Feb 27, 2021, 12:45 PM

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daaamn

gritty forge Feb 27, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Wow that's cool

tiny pasture Feb 27, 2021, 4:37 PM

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TRAIN?

spice thorn Feb 27, 2021, 4:38 PM

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I presume it's for decoration purposes duskthink

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Good job so far

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approved

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I wonder though

How would you approach designing an actual train level in TrenchBroom?

Like the one in Blood e.g.

gritty forge Feb 27, 2021, 4:44 PM

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Don't know anything about actually using TrenchBroom, but maybe some animated ground texture with something just above it that quickly gibs you if you fall off?

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IDK if that sort of thing is even possible

gritty forge Feb 27, 2021, 4:45 PM

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crimson patrol

👍

spice thorn Feb 27, 2021, 4:57 PM

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gritty forge Don't know anything about actually using TrenchBroom, but maybe some animated gr...

I don't even own Dusk or TrenchBroom yet. Just asking out of curiosity.

I think the approach you've described was surely used in some Doom custom train levels :thinking:

Map04 of Epic WAD comes to mind

crimson patrol Feb 27, 2021, 5:02 PM

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spice thorn I presume it's for decoration purposes <:duskthink:585637188465590272>

i can assure you it's more than decoration

sharp trail Feb 27, 2021, 5:02 PM

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it's probably not possible with the things that we have rn

crimson patrol Feb 27, 2021, 5:02 PM

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well, will be

spice thorn Feb 27, 2021, 5:07 PM

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If only there was a conveyor belt that allows to move entities and textures...

crimson patrol Feb 27, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Scrolling/animated textures would be awesome

gritty forge Feb 27, 2021, 5:22 PM

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Is that possible? Seems like the best low-cost solution

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I'm not sure how Blood did the train level but I would guess it's something very similar

gritty forge Feb 27, 2021, 5:24 PM

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crimson patrol i can assure you it's more than decoration

crash the train... crash the train... crash the train...

crimson patrol Feb 27, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Wink wink

spice thorn Feb 27, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Have any of you used Ultimate Doom Builder for Doom '93? In some map formats there's an action that allows for floor tex to scroll

There's a variant that also allows to move entities/things and create conveyor belts that way

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It makes designing train levels possible

gritty forge Feb 27, 2021, 6:51 PM

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I see that there are only maps, textures, and sounds on mods.io. Im assuming truly custom weapons/enemies arent possible yet?

crimson patrol Feb 27, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Nop, but you can replace weapon skins

gritty forge Feb 27, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Gotcha. Any idea when that stuff might be implemented?

crimson patrol Feb 27, 2021, 6:53 PM

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There isn't a set date, but its coming soon

gritty forge Feb 27, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Awesome

gritty forge Feb 27, 2021, 7:21 PM

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Id like to mod in a hotkey that changes the current track. Is that possible, and how would I do it?

ancient depot Feb 27, 2021, 7:21 PM

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Not currently, but once the console's in you could set up a custom bind

gritty forge Feb 27, 2021, 7:22 PM

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slick.

hallow rapids Feb 28, 2021, 12:47 AM

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I was following the 2 minute tutorial, and the wad won't copy to face

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Any fix?

hallow rapids Feb 28, 2021, 1:21 AM

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nvm fixed it

hallow rapids Feb 28, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Making a house

hallow rapids Feb 28, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Literally have no idea what I'm doing lol

crisp raven Mar 1, 2021, 1:12 AM

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When can I move in?

hallow rapids Mar 1, 2021, 1:19 AM

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It's $12 a month right now

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Until I do renovations

hallow rapids Mar 1, 2021, 2:38 AM

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House lookin better

sacred talon Mar 1, 2021, 2:53 AM

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Le house

hallow rapids Mar 1, 2021, 2:53 AM

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I literally have no idea what I'm doing

sacred talon Mar 1, 2021, 2:54 AM

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Lol

hallow rapids Mar 1, 2021, 2:54 AM

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just messing around with trenchbroom

tranquil mulch Mar 1, 2021, 3:00 AM

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Well, whatever it is, you have a talent for it. That looks good.

sacred talon Mar 1, 2021, 3:00 AM

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Ye

hallow rapids Mar 1, 2021, 3:12 AM

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awww thanks

honest stag Mar 1, 2021, 3:50 AM

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Yeah it looks hella nice

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Hell even my first maps were ass looking

hallow rapids Mar 1, 2021, 5:06 AM

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I just need to figure out how to properly scale it.

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Also I have to figure out the interior textures, as well as things like furniture.

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Also thanks <3

honest stag Mar 1, 2021, 5:18 AM

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do you have a quakedude model thing? on info_player_start?

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basically that box is roughtly the player height if you place your camera where on like 4/5 of it's height

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which will give you a good sense of scale

hallow rapids Mar 1, 2021, 11:41 AM

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Huh, y'know I never thought of that.

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Thanks, I'll place that down, and see how everything scales

forest sedge Mar 2, 2021, 8:08 PM

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So I didn't know at first that saving in custom levels did work, but why isn't the secret and enemy counter saved? Why is that the only thing that needs to be added or fixed, and it's not implemented yet? Is there a fix I can do, or do I really have to wait even for such a simple but important addition?

ancient depot Mar 2, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Saving in the SDK is just a temporary thing right now

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It's a quick and dirty implementation because people were asking to be able to save

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Unfortunately, a save system is by no means simple to implement

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A better save system is in the works to replace the current janky stuff

forest sedge Mar 2, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Good. The map I'm trying to complete also doesn't save the non broken windows, so they're invisible when I load the save. I don't know if it's the maps fault or the current save feature.

ancient depot Mar 2, 2021, 8:13 PM

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That would be the save feature

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Right now the SDK save files are technically levels themselves

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If you open them in a text editor you'll see that they contain the entity definition part of a map

forest sedge Mar 2, 2021, 8:14 PM

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I wouldn't have thought that kind of workaround could have been done.

ancient depot Mar 2, 2021, 8:15 PM

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It's a mess lmao

forest sedge Mar 2, 2021, 8:18 PM

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A mess you plan to fix. But yeah, black industrial misery is a pain to complete, and it's not the most polished. Imagine a part of a floor with no ground detection so you just fall and have to get out with nbclip.

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It's been keeping me from trying to beat all of the community made levels.

ancient depot Mar 2, 2021, 8:20 PM

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Yeah, it's a pain point we're well aware of

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It should be fixed within the next few patches, if not the next one

forest sedge Mar 2, 2021, 8:21 PM

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The next patches date is indeterminate right?

ancient depot Mar 2, 2021, 8:21 PM

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Yeah, although it's nearing completion

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I've been working on it almost daily as of late

forest sedge Mar 2, 2021, 8:24 PM

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Good, good. I haven't been updated on the progress of the SDK for almost a year or partially. Whether it be because I have asked how the progress is going or not, it doesn't matter.

honest stag Mar 3, 2021, 8:03 AM

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ancient depot I've been working on it almost daily as of late

inb4 poolboy finally uploads the fixed version of enclave and the new update breaks it again

honest stag Mar 3, 2021, 1:01 PM

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crimson patrol Mar 3, 2021, 1:02 PM

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^ vriska parented a func breakable to a door

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it can only be broken with triggers though

honest stag Mar 3, 2021, 1:02 PM

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nah

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if i want i can set it up to be broken by damage at any point

crimson patrol Mar 3, 2021, 1:03 PM

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oh that's cool

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that truck looks really good

honest stag Mar 3, 2021, 1:06 PM

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it's the one i used in trespasser for a similar sequence

crimson patrol Mar 3, 2021, 1:07 PM

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yeah

honest stag Mar 3, 2021, 1:07 PM

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except there it breaks through a wall

onyx marten Mar 3, 2021, 2:36 PM

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yo wassup people, i managed to finally fix enclave after all these years thanks to @honest stag 's help.

https://dusk.mod.io/enclave

mod.io

Enclave mod for DUSK

This is my third finished map set in a medieval world. Uses RuneResized.wad, ad_start.wad, ubilight_v103, dusk.wad and dusk_transparent.wad. Sadly the water surrounding all the isles doesnt work properly atm since the sdk has some problems with that.

ancient depot Mar 3, 2021, 2:36 PM

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honest stag inb4 poolboy finally uploads the fixed version of enclave and the new update bre...

alternatively: everything BUT enclave is underwater

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picardy

onyx marten Mar 3, 2021, 2:36 PM

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at least i hope

honest stag Mar 3, 2021, 2:36 PM

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the irony

onyx marten Mar 3, 2021, 2:36 PM

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that'd be neat zombie

honest stag Mar 3, 2021, 2:36 PM

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WE'RE IN THE GAME BOYS

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IT HAPPENED

onyx marten Mar 3, 2021, 2:36 PM

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I'll just delete this version again

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when that happens

crimson patrol Mar 3, 2021, 3:38 PM

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WOO

crimson patrol Mar 4, 2021, 11:16 AM

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updated the the tree mod, check it out:

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https://dusk.mod.io/detail-trees

mod.io

Detail trees mod for DUSK

A .map file containing 5 trees (and 2 stumps) i made in trenchbroom, feel free to use these in your maps!

gritty forge Mar 4, 2021, 11:22 AM

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Ebic

sharp trail Mar 4, 2021, 12:15 PM

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nice

hallow rapids Mar 4, 2021, 2:31 PM

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How do I get furniture?

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Did David literally just make the furniture from the blocks

honest stag Mar 4, 2021, 2:37 PM

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fgd

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Check pinned messages

hallow rapids Mar 4, 2021, 2:39 PM

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thanks

hallow rapids Mar 4, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Anybody have any idea what's going on here. The grid on the right isn't aligned properly.

hallow rapids Mar 4, 2021, 6:17 PM

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Nvm, I fixed it

real axle Mar 4, 2021, 7:10 PM

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How difficult is it to get started making maps anyway? I've always been interested, but I've never brought myself to do so

crisp raven Mar 4, 2021, 7:12 PM

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its EZ

real axle Mar 4, 2021, 7:13 PM

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I believe it, but third party tools frighten me for some reason.

hallow rapids Mar 4, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Don't be frightened. It's pretty easy.

ancient depot Mar 4, 2021, 9:38 PM

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Everything is a third party tool if you didn't make it yourself

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woke

gritty forge Mar 4, 2021, 9:39 PM

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tru

real axle Mar 4, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Now thats big brain

real axle Mar 5, 2021, 3:39 AM

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Following this video to try and get started, but I can't drag the dusk wad into trenchbroom

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Figured that out

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Any idea on how to get the objects to display as what they are instead of a big cube?

honest stag Mar 5, 2021, 4:00 AM

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fgd

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Pinnned messages

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@real axle

real axle Mar 5, 2021, 4:01 AM

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I checked the pins

honest stag Mar 5, 2021, 4:01 AM

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Its the very furst thing when you open it

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First*

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Dusk fgd alpha that i uploaded

real axle Mar 5, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Oh

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I must have an older version of the fgd

honest stag Mar 5, 2021, 4:02 AM

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?

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The version i uploaded is the latest public one

real axle Mar 5, 2021, 4:03 AM

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I have a file named "dusk_snf_q.fgd" that allows me to place the entities but it doesn't have any associated imagery.

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I just assumed it was the same file

honest stag Mar 5, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Wrong one yea

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That just has entity definitions, my fgd has thr models ported as well

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When placing stuff the model is the exact place where tge object will be even if tge origin point is in a differemt spot

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Why is auto correct truning the into tge

hallow rapids Mar 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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I don't even think I'm gonna turn this into a level, but I finished the house

gritty forge Mar 5, 2021, 12:58 PM

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House living simulator

crimson patrol Mar 5, 2021, 1:04 PM

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DuskLife

hallow rapids Mar 5, 2021, 1:05 PM

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DUSK visual novel

hallow rapids Mar 5, 2021, 1:50 PM

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Anybody know how to make the glass breakable?

gritty forge Mar 5, 2021, 1:53 PM

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Looks nice

honest stag Mar 5, 2021, 1:53 PM

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is hat 256 grid size

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you can turn off the grid by presson 0 btw

hallow rapids Mar 5, 2021, 1:56 PM

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Oh, I didn't know that.

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I used 256 to make it look smoother

honest stag Mar 5, 2021, 1:56 PM

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yep figured

hallow rapids Mar 5, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Couldn't find a TV Entity, so I sorta made my own with the level geometry

spice thorn Mar 5, 2021, 10:58 PM

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Woah... Just me.

sharp trail Mar 5, 2021, 11:38 PM

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object couch malicioushappy

gusty coral Mar 6, 2021, 12:16 AM

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I honestly kinda love that workaround

long anchor Mar 6, 2021, 12:24 AM

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seeing people use fgd warms my heart...

hallow rapids Mar 6, 2021, 12:36 AM

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It's actually really easy. I use the folliage to make the T.V Antennae

gritty forge Mar 6, 2021, 3:14 AM

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I need to finish my 2nd level soon

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it's like 70% done

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just abandoned it for a while now

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cause of school and because it takes a lot of energy and I like to have lots of free time when I do mapping

hallow rapids Mar 6, 2021, 4:36 AM

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I know how you feel

honest stag Mar 6, 2021, 4:36 AM

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i have like 7-8 abandoned maps

crimson patrol Mar 6, 2021, 8:02 AM

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I've been working on the same map on/off for more than 2 months

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Mostly because I dont have the energy to work on it for long

bold orbit Mar 6, 2021, 8:50 AM

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I stopped working on my map to work on what the map was based on

honest stag Mar 6, 2021, 8:56 AM

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bold orbit I stopped working on my map to work on what the map was based on

bold orbit Mar 6, 2021, 9:03 AM

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honest stag

honest stag Mar 6, 2021, 9:04 AM

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yes

bold orbit Mar 6, 2021, 9:05 AM

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да yis
Bik maps

arctic sentinel Mar 6, 2021, 2:37 PM

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blyat

hallow rapids Mar 6, 2021, 3:17 PM

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How do you get the glass that's breakable?

honest stag Mar 6, 2021, 3:24 PM

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func_breakable, renderamt 100 and remndermode 1

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Rendermode*

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Renderamt can go 0-255, 100 just looks good for glass

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@hallow rapids

hallow rapids Mar 6, 2021, 3:26 PM

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So wait, where do I put that?

honest stag Mar 6, 2021, 3:26 PM

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func_breakable is the brush itself, renderamt/rendermode are entity properties that you add

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You can add the by selecting the brush and clicking the + in the entity tab where the properties are listed

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them*

hallow rapids Mar 6, 2021, 3:28 PM

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OHHHHH, OK.

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I thought that's what I had to do, but I wasn't exactly sure. Thank you!

hallow rapids Mar 6, 2021, 3:47 PM

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Ok... it would seem I ran into some trouble

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Do I need a specific glass entity? It's not letting me add funcs to map geometry

honest stag Mar 6, 2021, 3:48 PM

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right click a brush

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create brush entity - func - anything

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then rename it

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dont ever rename worldspawn

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it breaks the map

hallow rapids Mar 6, 2021, 3:50 PM

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ohhhh, I see

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Does it matter what I rename it to?

honest stag Mar 6, 2021, 3:51 PM

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func_breakable

hallow rapids Mar 6, 2021, 3:51 PM

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Oh, it just does that for me

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Thank you, like I said, I have no idea what the heck im doin

honest stag Mar 6, 2021, 3:53 PM

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it's aight this isnt exactly explained anywhere for dusk mapping

hallow rapids Mar 6, 2021, 3:53 PM

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True

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Tried looking it up, but there isn't very many in depth guides

gritty forge Mar 6, 2021, 9:45 PM

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endless maps when

foggy creek Mar 6, 2021, 10:55 PM

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quick question would this method of making a toggle-able trigger work within dusk? https://tomeofpreach.wordpress.com/2017/01/22/respawnable-trigger_once-experiments/

The Tome of Preach

ajdenner

Respawnable trigger_once experiments

The quest continues to create a trigger_multiple which can be activated and deactivated at will. The previous post described how to make a trigger_once which can be triggered active, but cannot be …

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 12:55 AM

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probably not???

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probably

gritty forge Mar 7, 2021, 12:59 AM

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Uhhhh isn't there a half life entity for this (not saying we have it)

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Is there a recommended resource for learning how the various functions of trenchbroom work?

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 1:32 AM

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dumptruck_ds tutorials

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 1:33 AM

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cool thanks

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 1:58 AM

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So I'm guessing none of the light objects in the fgd actually act as a light source unless you place an invisible light source on top of them

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 1:58 AM

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yes they dont give off light
just light flares

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except

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for the candle

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and i think the burn barrel

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 1:59 AM

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Campfire as well, just doing some testing

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 1:59 AM

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just keep in mind that those things affect performance quite a bit

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candles especially

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 2:00 AM

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I'll make a note of it

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Is there a way to make a directional light source or is it point only?

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 2:00 AM

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there is

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watch the dumptruck tutorials on light and light tips

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 2:01 AM

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Cool, I'm just working my way through those

hallow rapids Mar 7, 2021, 2:14 AM

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bruh i can't stand this ignorance no moe

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 2:14 AM

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wuts wrong

hallow rapids Mar 7, 2021, 2:15 AM

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Idk, I asked some friends for advice about that house I'm building

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Asked if it looked like a real house, and they said "why does it matter, it's not like you can live in it"

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I mean, yeah, but still

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 2:16 AM

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i would implode tbh

hallow rapids Mar 7, 2021, 2:18 AM

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It's kinda annoying

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like damn bro, at least be helpful

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 2:22 AM

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The least they could do is answer the question

hallow rapids Mar 7, 2021, 2:29 AM

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I know, right?

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Saying 'Urrr durr, it doesn't matter you're barely gonna see it while playing anyway' isn't helpful. You're just being a smartass

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 2:30 AM

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just map it out mang

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set your frustrations into creativity

hallow rapids Mar 7, 2021, 2:31 AM

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I know

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I'm just a giant perfectionist when it comes to this stuff

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any artistic outlet really

tiny pasture Mar 7, 2021, 2:35 AM

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So I'm playing enclave
And I just opened up the ship.
And I'm wondering...
How the fuck do I get out of this room.

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Am I just stupid

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Or is something broke

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 2:35 AM

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so you're inside ofthe ship?

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where exactly?

tiny pasture Mar 7, 2021, 2:37 AM

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Nah

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The big cannon room

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In the basement of the mansion place

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 2:38 AM

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i remember being stuck in there for a while but there is a way to leave pretty sure

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dont remember what exactly tho lol

hallow rapids Mar 7, 2021, 2:39 AM

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I just cheated out lol

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nbufo

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 2:39 AM

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nbclip works too

hallow rapids Mar 7, 2021, 2:39 AM

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I can't wait for the SDK to be fully done so I can make my melee based boomer shooter

tiny pasture Mar 7, 2021, 2:40 AM

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Russian overkill in dusk when

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 2:41 AM

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imma stream my mapmaking process for the map jam

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https://www.twitch.tv/vriskaserket_

Twitch

VriskaSerket_ - Twitch

i bake unhealthy amounts of pizza

▶ Play video

hallow rapids Mar 7, 2021, 2:41 AM

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is that the doom mod with the quad barrelled shotgun

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 2:41 AM

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havent done this in a while

hallow rapids Mar 7, 2021, 2:41 AM

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which you can also quad wield

tiny pasture Mar 7, 2021, 2:43 AM

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hallow rapids is that the doom mod with the quad barrelled shotgun

Yes

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Yes it is

hallow rapids Mar 7, 2021, 2:43 AM

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ah ok

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It sounded familiar, but wasnt sure

tiny pasture Mar 7, 2021, 2:44 AM

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Oh right the map jam

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New maps to play let's go

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 3:32 AM

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so it looks like some objects in the fgd don't rotate along certain axes

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The object_floating_wendigo, for example is always lying with its head facing left

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oh

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I was able to get it rotated with Alt+down

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But I couldn't do it with the rotation tool

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Weird BigThink

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 3:55 AM

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I'm just feeling around trying to figure out what I'm doing; set up a trigger entity, a wall of trigger_once with a target of three monster_soldier entities with the targetname 'grunts'

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I walk across the trigger and nothing happens

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Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

crisp raven Mar 7, 2021, 4:27 AM

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real axle Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

You need to make the trigger_once target some trigger_teleport s (you want one trigger_teleport for each enemy to be teleported)

Ok, now you want each trigger_teleport to target a different player_info_destination

So, when you step through the trigger, it'll activate the trigger_teleports and send whatever is inside them to their destinations.

This technique is often referred to as a "Monster Closet"

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 4:34 AM

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crisp raven You need to make the `trigger_once` target some `trigger_teleport` s (you want o...

Useful info, but I'm actually just looking to activate enemies that are already placed but out of sight once the player crosses a certain threshold.

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I'd post a picture, but the setup I have for testing this is just a room with the three soldiers facing away from the player, and the trigger placed in front of the player spawn.

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 4:35 AM

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that is an ambush mechanic

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which isnt implemented i think

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 4:35 AM

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Ah, I see

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I'm just following along with dumptruck_ds' videos and this is the first thing he covers in the entity tutorial

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 4:36 AM

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ye keep in mind that not all the stuff is going to be 100% the same

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 4:37 AM

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Naturally

honest stag Mar 7, 2021, 4:37 AM

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we also have some half life features that arent even covered at all

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for obvious reasons

real axle Mar 7, 2021, 4:37 AM

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I guess I just figured that this would be a thing

tiny pasture Mar 7, 2021, 9:13 PM

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So I just got into making maps for dusk and right now I'm just trying to figure out how to use trenchbroom and it's going great except I made a little test map, a platform with a gun, player start and a mage, and I put it in a folder and all that but It won't show up in the custom level part in the sdk. What am I doing wrong?

tiny pasture Mar 7, 2021, 9:43 PM

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nvm figured it out

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I don't know what exactly was happening but it works now so oh well

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 2:37 AM

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hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:19 AM

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Looks great so far

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:19 AM

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there is soooo mcuh to be done

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but that's part of the fun i guess

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:19 AM

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true

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Also, do you know how the cut tool works? I'm trying to make curves, and it's freaking killing me

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It keeps highlighting the parts I want to cut off

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:20 AM

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i suggest watching the dumptruck_ds tutorial on curves and arches

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:21 AM

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Let me check real quick

gritty forge Mar 8, 2021, 3:26 AM

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honest stag

Neat!

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:26 AM

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thx
it's a small portion of the jam map

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:27 AM

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I am abandoning my house map

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There were some size issues, and i didn't feel like scaling everything down again

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:33 AM

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piece of advice

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dont go below 16 units on a grid before you are CERTAIN you wont be making any big changes to the layout

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including buildings

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Well, the only reason I went below 16 units was because for some reason the grid got misaligned with the geometry

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So stuff wouldn't line up for some reason

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:34 AM

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rotating, cutting, shearing, merging - all that sutff will, without a doubt, make your geometry off 16-rid

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i make the layout with no rotations or stuff like that before i start adding more complex geometry

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i make 100% sure that the map will be sealed and then work withing those boundaries

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it will help you a lot in the long run

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:36 AM

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Oh, I see

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So just get the basic idea down, then add details?

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:37 AM

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initially i kind of dismissed map sealing and using a sub-16 unit grid afetr detailing and stuff

but it bit me in the ASS so so so many times

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yes
full layout first
complex geometry second
details third

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:37 AM

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Map sealing?

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Oh, ok

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:38 AM

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map sealing will cut out any faces that the player will never see
the way compiler determies which faces are usleess is by "filling the map with water"
if anything leaks outside of the map's boudaries, it'll process ALL faces, including outside ones

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which doubles the compiling time

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and lowers performace

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maybe even causes glitches

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if there is a leak, the compiler with generate a .pts file which TB can load and point you towards the leak

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basically there should be 0 entities beyon the map bounds and it must be sealed tighty

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well i mean you CAN make a map without sealing it

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it's just more diffcult

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:40 AM

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Ah, I see

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:40 AM

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outside areas just have a sky brush as a celling

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it's invisible in game and just shows the skybox

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but the compiler checks it as a sealing brush

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:42 AM

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So, if I seal it, the empty space will be filled with water?

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I'm not a mapper, so I don't understand most of this haha

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:43 AM

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nah filling with water is just an analogy

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:43 AM

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oh, so empty space then?

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Or does it count the empty space as geometry?

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:44 AM

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it's always empty space outside of the map
problem is the faces outside
hold on i'll illustrate

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this is your map, it consists of a room

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:46 AM

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Yes

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:46 AM

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if there are no leaks, the compiler, in order to shorten the comple time and save performance, will cut out these faces because the player will never see them

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:46 AM

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Ohhhhhhhhh

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So they'll be textureless?

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:47 AM

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yes
lemme show you a difference between looking at a sealed and an usealed map

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1 moment

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:48 AM

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Okie dokie

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:49 AM

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unsealed - all faces are shown (black since there's no light outside)

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sealed (outside faces are cut)

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map has all 4 walls btw

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:51 AM

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Oh, I see

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So is having no outside faces good or bad? I assume good?

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:51 AM

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yes
less faces - less processing needed to be done, so shorter compile time
less faces - less stuff to render, so better performace

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it's a big difference between, like
7k faces in a sealed map
and 19k faces in an unsealed map

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exxagerated a bit bu

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yeah

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 3:53 AM

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Ah, OK

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That's good to know though

honest stag Mar 8, 2021, 3:56 AM

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i used to neglect that and many other things
and then i complained how my maps take 15 minutes to compile

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you can optimise the living SHIT out of your maps
it's just not exactly needed to be super agressive about it when the map isnt big

hallow rapids Mar 8, 2021, 4:11 AM

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I understand

bold orbit Mar 8, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Doing the vis part yourself is also an option

bold orbit Mar 8, 2021, 5:35 PM

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shaves a bit off of the compiling time

honest stag Mar 9, 2021, 2:04 AM

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im kind of unaware if we can do this in tb

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would be nice though

hallow rapids Mar 9, 2021, 2:48 AM

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Man these tree textures don't wanna work

honest stag Mar 9, 2021, 2:48 AM

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can you show them?

hallow rapids Mar 9, 2021, 2:52 AM

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They have this gap at the bottom, when I try to slide the texture down, the texture begins repeating at the top

honest stag Mar 9, 2021, 2:53 AM

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?

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extend the brush

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not the texture

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or like just move the brush

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and then lower the top part

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i could explain more but i gotta run for classes

hallow rapids Mar 9, 2021, 2:56 AM

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I di

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It's ground level

honest stag Mar 9, 2021, 2:57 AM

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lower the entire brush then

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there is an easier way but i really gotta run lol

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hope someone else comes in

hallow rapids Mar 9, 2021, 2:58 AM

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I understand, it's cool

warm badge Mar 9, 2021, 3:53 AM

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@hallow rapids did you get the tree texture fixed or still need help?

hallow rapids Mar 9, 2021, 3:54 AM

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I think I got it

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I just raised the floor basically

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But thanks!

warm badge Mar 9, 2021, 3:55 AM

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ah ok, i take it you know how to move a texture on a brush though?

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ok nvm yeah you obviously do haha just reread your message, yeah that texture is kinda wonky though, you either gotta scale it to suit your brush or just clip the brush down to fit the texture

hallow rapids Mar 9, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Yeah, it's a pain to work with, but luckily I won't be dealing with too much of it

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I don't even have a concept for my map, just messing around

crisp raven Mar 9, 2021, 3:59 AM

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You can also just lock the textures and move the tree down

hallow rapids Mar 9, 2021, 4:01 AM

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Oh!!

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That's what texture lock does!

crisp raven Mar 9, 2021, 4:01 AM

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Yessss

warm badge Mar 9, 2021, 4:02 AM

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on the subject of textures, is something wrong with my trenchbroom, because i swear i used to be able to copy and paste textures/texture faces to other brushes but i cant now?

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more of a question for the TB discord i suppose lol but i figured someone here knows what thats about

hallow rapids Mar 9, 2021, 4:02 AM

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It won't let me copypasta textures either, I tried that as well

crisp raven Mar 9, 2021, 4:02 AM

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warm badge on the subject of textures, is something wrong with my trenchbroom, because i sw...

Shift + click on a face, then alt + click on another face

hallow rapids Mar 9, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Magic man

warm badge Mar 9, 2021, 4:03 AM

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omg thank you, i feel like it used to just be ctrl + c and ctrl + v when selecting the faces, idk haha

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i can probably just rebind it to that in the preferences tho lol

crisp raven Mar 9, 2021, 4:03 AM

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True dat

crisp raven Mar 9, 2021, 4:05 AM

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hallow rapids That's what texture lock does!

Keep in mind it's usually best to have textures unlocked. Otherwise the repetition on your walls won't be smooooth

hallow rapids Mar 9, 2021, 4:05 AM

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I'll keep that in mind, thanks

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I need to start writing this stuff down

crisp raven Mar 9, 2021, 4:06 AM

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There's also the TB manual

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To look at

warm badge Mar 9, 2021, 4:06 AM

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idk why i just map with texture lock on like 100% of the time and then just reset texture alignment on brushes that i need to duplicate and move, i think im just lazy, but then when i use other editors like hammer i have texture lock off and only really turn it on if i'm moving something and want to keep the texture alignments i made lol

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idk maybe i'm just lazy

hallow rapids Mar 9, 2021, 4:08 AM

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I'm extremely lazy too

hallow rapids Mar 10, 2021, 3:21 PM

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my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

gritty forge Mar 10, 2021, 3:21 PM

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yeshoney

hallow rapids Mar 10, 2021, 3:22 PM

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how could vriska do this to me

tiny pasture Mar 10, 2021, 3:40 PM

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Haha get stickbugged nerd

last talon Mar 10, 2021, 4:49 PM

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hallow rapids my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

Oh shit lol thats a good one

long anchor Mar 10, 2021, 4:57 PM

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hallow rapids my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

@honest stag can't stop winning

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the funny part is

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at the time i was living kinda like a caveman and i didn't know about this meme

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and i was playing it for the first time and i didn't even get the joke

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heh

hallow rapids Mar 10, 2021, 4:59 PM

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For some reason I thought I activated a secret at first

long anchor Mar 10, 2021, 4:59 PM

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yeah same lol

hallow rapids Mar 10, 2021, 5:00 PM

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I thought the map was gonna be real, and I was impressed with how everything looked

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But then I was stickbuged

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I never wanted to combust into flames more then in that moment

long anchor Mar 10, 2021, 5:04 PM

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haha

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this

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is

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gold

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Vriska is a genius

crimson patrol Mar 10, 2021, 5:07 PM

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get stickbuged

crisp raven Mar 10, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Be sure to drop it a fat dislike

long anchor Mar 10, 2021, 7:58 PM

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nooooo

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:c

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vriska is cool!

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he deserves only one dis for that hq shitpost!

frigid cypress Mar 10, 2021, 8:02 PM

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back in the game and made this