general-modding

[eager hollow]

wanna make a like

cooking and camping mod

[coarse token]

it will make a fine addition to my collection

[eager hollow]

ah nice!
ive never made a mod before so

i wanna learn how it

*to

i also want to make a one woman immersive sim :

inspired by system shock, Prey, dishonored

some fuckin' uhh - dark souls/metroidvanias

[coarse token]

on xray engine? closest to immersive sim is just CoC, a dark souls style game in xray engine would be wonky as fuck tho

[eager hollow]

nah just like

the stalker mod and immersive sim are seperate

the immersive sim is prob gonna be unity

[eager hollow]

but yeah i have an idea for a stalker mod (some basic needs like food, sleep, stuff like that) and i just meed to learn the systems

[amber hull]

I am compiling quake map but this shows up and wont allow me

[pearl quartz]

oh for crying out loud!

do you people have troubles like this?

[unique trellis]

How do you even mod stalker?

Like do you have to download something to do it

Or is there something already downloaded in there files

[eager hollow]

No idea, kinda why i was asking

imma do research into it tjough

[unique trellis]

Okay

Good luck

[sharp vortex]

@eager hollow https://www.gsc-game.com/index.php?t=community&s=forums&s_game_type=xr&sec_id=16

Here's at least some "baby's first mod" stuff for it

[eager hollow]

oh sweet, thank ya kindly!

[sharp vortex]

For stuff like actual scripting, which is what most mods are, you're going to need some solid basic knowledge of programming.

and then you basically... just edit scripts and add your own code where appropriate

For map making, there's a Call of Pripyat SDK out there

but anything beyond placing already made stuff, you'd probably need some modeling capability too (for buildings and terrain)

it's a lot of work to get into, and there isn't a lot of help out there, or documentation

If you get actually serious about it, I suggest finding a nice active STALKER modding forum, or at least peruse through dead STALKER forums

Actually, this old GSC forum is probably your best bet

@eager hollow

http://sdk.stalker-game.com/en/index.php?title=Category:Articles

Sorry to spam you w/ stuff, I just kept looking some more

[eager hollow]

Ah ok

RN i just wanna impliment like

food/water and sleep

[sharp vortex]

for which game?

SoC?

[eager hollow]

Just for a pinch of realism

Either that or CoC

[sharp vortex]

CoC has that

so does Clear Sky and CoP

[eager hollow]

Ah ok

[sharp vortex]

SoC is going to be quite a different beast to mod probably

[eager hollow]

hm

for someone who's like

never delved into game development before

where's a good engine/moddable game to start?

[coarse token]

probably don't make my mistake and start with unreal engine

work on something smaller, like with game maker or hell, just make a half life mod or something

start really small

[eager hollow]

that's what im sorta doing

half life mod

like, i know what i want to make?

immersive sims and shooters

maybe some RPG stuff on the side but

i know the kinda games i wanna make

it's just finding an engine that's friendly to beginners

[coarse token]

yeah I know we all feel that way at first but you drop a lot of time working on all this cool stuff and it gets going but then you hit a roadblock and forget about it, and wonder why you couldn't finish the project. that's what usually happens, especially if you don't have multiple talents like 3d modelling in addition to programming skills

trust me homie you wanna start real small

unity if you want to drop right in

[eager hollow]

ye

that's why i might work on doom wads

or somethin' like that

[coarse token]

I don't regret starting with a major game engine (I started unreal like 4 years ago), but just beware it's a lot to take in

but I hate unreal so my recommendation is unity

if you can code you can do a lot with unity already

[eager hollow]

i cannot code

[coarse token]

In that case, you should probably start by learning a programming language. If you are interested in Unity it uses C# and Javascript, iirc interchangeably? To that I say C#.

[eager hollow]

ah okay

[coarse token]

Learning a programming language will teach you a TON about game design as well, eg object orientated programming

[eager hollow]

hm

if i wanted to make like

half life one mods

where'd i start?

[coarse token]

I've never modded source, but there are an extremely large number of guides online

correction- gold source

[eager hollow]

ah sick

[coarse token]

If you are in school still, see if you can get your school to enroll you in a course. I took c++, Python, and C# during highschool and they were by far my favourite courses

let me see if I can find my c++ course- I enjoyed it the most

found it

[eager hollow]

oh sick

yeah im in college but

[coarse token]

https://www.udemy.com/course/free-learn-c-tutorial-beginners/

[eager hollow]

might look and see if they offer any game design courses

[coarse token]

In my experience colleges offer less in the way of game design and more general software engineering / computer science type stuff; it's not until you get to like third or fourth year that they let you specialize

the course above is free, and I learned a lot from it, highly recommended.

[eager hollow]

ah damn

ill book mark it for later

rn im trying to get trenchbroom/the goldsource sdk to work

[unique trellis]

I think the goldsource sdk is in the half life files

Also if you ever want to use source I’d recommend watching top hat waffle

[eager hollow]

top hat waffle?

[unique trellis]

Yeah

I can give you a link if you want

[eager hollow]

im alright, thank you though!

i’ll look into i

*it

[unique trellis]

Okay

[indigo olive]

@coarse token unity dropped JavaScript a couple years ago

[coarse token]

I wouldn't know, I don't use it

javascript, I mean

[indigo olive]

Also oop is falling out of favour with gamedevs dues to poor cache and branch prediction performance

Unity and unreal still have it as the main paradigm but data oriented is taking over new in house engines

[coarse token]

I don't believe that oop will be phased out, because it's simple to teach

[indigo olive]

It won't be phased out but I think the current state of things where it's all you need to know will not last long

[keen bear]

Unity is making a huge push for data oriented tech yeah

while their DOTS tech isnt fully complete, or hell, even what i would consider usable, it is under heavy development

[unique trellis]

That is debatable, it is simple if you wanna do a couple things and stick to basic stuff.
Professional object oriented programming is very rigorous and relies heavily on meticolous specifications.
Personally i do not like it and enjoy mixing class usage to create well delimited entities and data oriented programming the way C++ allows.
I find the way Java and the like force you to use classes for every single thing to be insofferable

"Oh you wanna make an array of references to functions? Well too bad you will have to make a wrapper class that contains a functions that is overriden by all inheriting classes and only then stuff them into an array"

And don't get me started on how enums have to be classes instead of allowing you to possibly use them as aliases for integer values.

[eager hollow]

i might mess around with stuff like the build engine

i honestly just wanna make immersive sims, boomer shooters, and weird stuff

[unique trellis]

if you wanna start build engine might be the last place where to look.
Build Engine is very antagonizing on a code level because of the age in which it was conceived and the fact that it has not seen as much source port advancements as for example Doom and Quake (the latter being already a much more polished engine in the first place compard to its predecessors) and from what i have seen the modding tools are somewhat "make fire with a stick and a piece of paper"

[eager hollow]

ah yeah, makes sense

i don't have the quake wads and SDK but i do have Doom

and the doom map editors are easy to use

[unique trellis]

While i have somewhat detached myself from Doom modding I would suggest trying some Doom modding if you have no real prior experience and then scale it up taking on more advanced and complex projects

Or just go full on unity and unreal and then if you gain more confidence and want to make your own thing move to pure C++ based on some starting libraries such as SFML

[eager hollow]

yeah my whole thing is like

learning an editor and stuff without having to worry about models in the beginning

[eager hollow]

im gonna use unity

found an open source FPS camera, might look into adding leaning but

it's a start

[unique trellis]

I suggest you consider buying a C# book such as this one since it seems you have no prior experience.
http://www.albahari.com/nutshell/
That is unless you do not care about the possible risk of writing terrible code that only runs by accident.

[eager hollow]

i'll look into it!

[unique trellis]

C# is a generally friendly and intuitive language to learn, so it should be somewhat straight forward to get into

[eager hollow]

hm

i guess i need some advice - i've found that i work better in like

working on a project rather than just doing tutorials

so when it comes to game design, do i just

start with a small basic game and work my wayup

[slim pond]

If anyone here has experience composing and doing SFX, I need ya. The composer of my project just vanished into thin air and the project is planned to release in a month. Type of music would be something like a retro darksynth. A requirement being you can show previous work and can decide upon a good sound for the game. Project is paid

[slim pond]

Optimally, you would do just that. A major thing to learn is how much you're capable of doing. You do just that amount, learn, study, renew.

Don't forget that game development is a branch of software development. Software development is big and complicated. Game development and programming is no easy thing to capture, but you can do it when you devote yourself to the problems and challenges.

[eager hollow]

yeah!

rn im fuckin' around with unity but

im figuring stuff out

it feels good!

[coarse token]

@robust bolt yo I know my game's soundtrack won't work with your music but maybe this guy's will

[eager hollow]

hm

feel like i have an idea for a game

but, not sure

it'd basically be stalker

but, why noty

i ramble a bit so apologizies in advance but it's related

i think i could attempt to make a quest mod or two for stalker

[unique trellis]

It’s okay

Also I have priest now

So that’s neat

[eager hollow]

nice!

[unique trellis]

Kinda surprised you don’t have rat yet

[eager hollow]

no idea tbh

[unique trellis]

It doesn’t really matter ig

[hazy sorrel]

pony pfp

[unique trellis]

Where

[hazy sorrel]

i see them

[slender knoll]

konrad sees pony people

[unique trellis]

Konrad is a pony person

[eager hollow]

can't send an image but

i somewhat figured out how to get a sprite in the UI on unity

now i just gotta animate it and add some code for damage and boom, i got a wrench

[unique trellis]

[eager hollow]

even if i end up making more of a "retro shooter with quests"

i still want that system shock influence to be there

so i might make like

hm, maybe a trello or somethin'

get all the base mechanics down, then work towards a demo of the first episode, old school style

[eager hollow]

lemme know if i should delete this but - are their any good discords/communitys for retro fps design?

like i know there’s this one for games but if someone wants to make one

[humble herald]

not that I'm aware of

There's this and then the 3Drealms discord but I don't think they have a dedicated modding channel

[eager hollow]

ah ok

im in the nightdive disc. as well but they're more so focused on the games then anything

[tranquil oracle]

this channel is more like "gamedev-general" at this point lol

[eager hollow]

won't lie i have no idea if that's a good thing or a bad thing

[feral kite]

https://twitter.com/PlaySelaco/status/1357709944561270785

Selaco (@PlaySelaco)

"It's all about presentation" - Gwyn.

One of the key focus points in Selaco is having a highly interactive and animated world. This extends to things like light switches in most rooms, window blinds, machines, and almost every voxel you come across.

#GZDoom #RetroFPS #indiedev https://t.co/PW3DZm5c8B

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[eager hollow]

that's so cool

[unique trellis]

I hope there will be minimal usage of voxels.
Every little cube of voxel "models" are rendered as their own model in GZDoom and when there are more than a few on screen you can kiss your FPS goodbye

[eager hollow]

wait you're using uhh

GZDoom as a base engine

?

[unique trellis]

So the tags say

[eager hollow]

hm

neat

[white ore]

We dont use .kvx for our voxels, we convert and optimize them to .obj to save up on performance. Keeps the voxel look intact without the KVX crap

As for 'minimal usage', we have 150 voxels right now and still have a massive list of things to do 😛 Given their tier-based destruction, every voxel has like 4-5 versions going for it.

[unique trellis]

I did convert voxels to models 2 years ago, it performed even worse

[white ore]

Sorry to say but then you converted it poorly 😛

Compared to using KVX our framerate went up immensely after converting

[unique trellis]

Did you do something extra other than using the plugin ro convert them?

[white ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/636991943326433298/780878511862710323/unknown.png

If you convert kvx to obj manually, they end up like this

[unique trellis]

yeah i know

[white ore]

Qubicle (love it or hate it) has a smarter algorithm going for it that cleans it up properly

[unique trellis]

I fiddled a bit with whatever it was that was suggested to optimize square models but did not get much better results so i stopped

Decimate perhaps? It has been too long ago

In the end I did not care to spend much time in Blender so i stopped

[white ore]

No need, because if you export it using Qubicle they end up like this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/636991943326433298/780922020397187112/unknown.png

No more eye sore!

[unique trellis]

It was for a plugin that is no longer in development.
I'll keep in mind for the future but as of right now i no longer work on those things

maybe i have some images of what i did

I was rather proud of them at the time

I think they still look pretty good

The armor was such a pain

Actually they all were a pain, the only one that only took me an hour was the shotgun

Only took me a hour and a half

[white ore]

Those are some great sprite conversions! So I assume you did work for QC:DE?

[unique trellis]

For some time I was the guy making most plugins for QCDE.
Ended up making stuff that made it in QCDE itself, which got me to be credited as part of the team

I did voxels, wrote all the lore, some gamemodes and some other stuff

[slender knoll]

unrelated note: didnt your pfp used to flip the bird?

[unique trellis]

Not sure if my writing is really industry worthy but a guy on the team with design knowledge made a badass manual

[slender knoll]

christ I'm fucking up my typing even more than normal

[unique trellis]

The cat of the pfp does flip the bird but cut it out, I just like the smug expression

[slender knoll]

aww

I liked the bird

owell back to shipbreaking ->

[unique trellis]

It was a drawing I found on a trip to Berlin, which I later found out to be a demake of the Las Vegas book thing

[eager hollow]

@unique trellis pologies for the ping, but what did you use to make those models?

[unique trellis]

MagicaVoxel

It's free and it's good

I also used another one which had a function to automatically removed the cube that cannot be seen from the outside but I forgot the name of that

[eager hollow]

oh sick!

i might check it out to see what kinda stuff i can make model wise

wanna build my own game so

[white ore]

I work with fgsdgs and borion. They use a wide range of different Voxel tools (Magicavoxel being one of them) since they each have their pro's and con's. They gave me a massive breakdown about it once. I can DM it if you're interested and want to get into voxels.

[eager hollow]

ah okay!

i'd appreciate it

im trying to figure out a visual style for my game and so far i've just settled on "pixel art doom style"

but that isn't very definiative

[unique trellis]

my approach to voxel programs is simple.
As long as i can put cubes and it's not SLAB6 they are cool

[white ore]

...and it's not SLAB6 they are cool

I always get a strange cold sensation over my body when someone mentions SLAB6

And its not a good one

[unique trellis]

SLAB6 is a leftover of the dark ages of game making

Tool making at its absolute worse

[eager hollow]

game dev hurts my head but im figurin it out

[robust ridge]

https://twitter.com/HellslingerGame/status/1357743004702945282?s=19

Hellslinger (@HellslingerGame)

Desert Eagle and AA12 in high resolution, in-game footage!
Also kick

#retro #fps #videogame #indie #indiedev https://t.co/ydD1XeeIm9

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Programming for someone's game.

[eager hollow]

sorta made my first doom map

didn't add any enemies yet but

do kinda wanna make a WAD based offa the evil dead 2

[deep wadi]

Dude holy fuck that looks amazing

Such smooth animation

Love the Desert Eagle

Great sounds too

10/10 work

[hazy sorrel]

[feral kite]

Are you okay

[hazy sorrel]

never

[feral kite]

https://twitter.com/PlaySelaco/status/1358045887524708353

Selaco (@PlaySelaco)

E1M1, but it's in Selaco.

#gzdoom #screenshotsaturday #indiedev #leveldesign

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[hazy sorrel]

epic game reference

[brittle yew]

Spiders still weren't scary enough in my SS2 AI Enhancement mod. So I made them even scarier
https://twitter.com/RoSoDude/status/1358144052068311042

Mr. Abstract Gameplay Dynamics (@RoSoDude)

Mmm... the player knows that Spiders can still be backpedal cheesed... won't let them undo the work I've done... mmm... wired up a surprise for them... anybody installing SS2 Scary Monsters v1.01... will feel sorrow... so much sorrow...

#screenshotsaturday #systemshock2 #Modding https://t.co/bc0sQbF1Rq

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[eager hollow]

oh shit system shock moddin'

[brittle yew]

Here's a video demo for the first version (some has changed a little since, but gets the point across):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu_UGpkUZwQ

[eager hollow]

that's awesome!

what are you gonna do in general with it>

[brittle yew]

The idea with the mod in general is to redress cheese tactics that allow you to declaw the AI and bring back their initial fear factor

The first version focused mostly on reducing melee cheese

A lot of enemies could be backpedaled infinitely so they never attack, and others were too easy to lock down up close

Now there's a greater emphasis on dodging and weaving, upgrading your stats, maybe... considering guns sometimes haha

The identity of each enemy is still the same

[eager hollow]

yeah the little bit i've played of SS2 is just

[brittle yew]

but they're better at doing what they're supposed to

[eager hollow]

"haha wack" and sneaking around

sick!

[brittle yew]

I also have a couple other SS2 mods. One is a massive balance overhaul to bring weaker skills up to par, and the other makes cameras activate the alarm when destroyed (unless you hack security first)

[eager hollow]

that's a cool idea

i still gotta play the game but

it sounds like something really cool that you're cooking up

[brittle yew]

Thanks!

[eager hollow]

i'

*i've thought about looking into making fan missions for SS1 and 2 but

no idea where to start

[brittle yew]

SS1 is a brave new world, only 2-3 FMs for it. I'd start here:
https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=9476.0

As for SS2, there are a ton of community resources on mapping for Thief/SS2 which I could link you

I'm not a mapper myself so it's not stuff I'm intimately acquainted with (though I do use the editor a lot to browse the object hierarchy and test edits)

https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=2306.0

http://thevault.collective-illusion.com/sec/ofctut.html

https://dromed.whoopdedo.org/index

[eager hollow]

oh sick!

i really like the aesthetic of SS!

*SS1

plus i'd like to make custom enemies

but at the same time SS2 seems to have more uhh

support and ease of use when it comes to modding

[brittle yew]

Yeah, SS1 is opening up more now thanks to NightDive releasing the (mac) source code, the EE sourceport having a bit more mod compatibility, and community tools like dertseha's

[eager hollow]

yeah!

i was actually asking around on the ND server about stuff

i mainly wanna make like

my own immersive sim/immersive sim-esque games

more so bioshock since that's a bit easier for a one person team

but

[deep wadi]

https://gfycat.com/organicsnivelingjerboa

The hour is late
I've taken my pills
I'm back again
It's time to shill

I doubled the movement speed of my player pretty much in every regard. Finished redoing my AI systems entirely, and otherwise have just sped up the game significantly.

Not sure why I decided to make it slower in the first place

Fast == fun huehuehuehue

[eager hollow]

that's awesome!

what's the game called?

kinda looks familiar

[candid dawn]

Get To The Orange Door

[eager hollow]

oh shit

that's you?

ive seen your game for years now

[candid dawn]

not me

@deep wadi

i too have a game to shill lol, but dont wanna step on lhns toes. will post later

[eager hollow]

hopefully soon, i myself will have one

[deep wadi]

Yep, I'm your guy

[eager hollow]

sweet!

i've seen your development for years now, it's been really cool seeing it evolve and develop

[deep wadi]

It's definitely starting to get good for sure

[candid dawn]

makes mesmerizing gifs for sure

[eager hollow]

what engine are you using?

[unique trellis]

Swag engine

[eager hollow]

https://streamable.com/4s1ns7 been fuckin' around with unity - ending up with a pretty neat little concept thingy

debating the merits of handdrawing all enemy sprites

[unique trellis]

Nice hammer

[eager hollow]

lowkey? it's supposed to be a rough approximation of a fire axe

but i might just change it to a pipe or a hammer

[fluid moat]

Is there a method to export DUSK maps to Left 4 Dead 2 bsp format?

[candid dawn]

Tried messing with rtx reflections. Pretty subtle but neat https://youtu.be/-NU2S8dztjg

[eager hollow]

i love the gameplay in that clip

that's really sick

[unique bramble]

https://youtu.be/WNmXq_ZKidY

It's halfway done

[eager hollow]

hm

need some like, game dev advice

is it worth it to make a blog/seperate yt/twitter for a project?

[candid dawn]

If it sounds fun and you have time go for it

[eager hollow]

rad!

[eager hollow]

made one, so

that exists

[robust ridge]

https://youtu.be/ODq95yKbO74

[tired warren]

love everything I see about this game

[deep wadi]

[unique trellis]

I made this, using a real picture as a model .. the paper sticking out is kind of hokey but I'll fix that. I'm pretty proud of it, it's an important part of our Blood projects story.

the guy making all the voxel oaks for blood, ion fury, dark forces, etc dzierzan, is helping me voxel several sprites for this

[fluid moat]

e

[polar basin]

that looks awesome

i had no idea people were still making Blood mods

[unique trellis]

https://www.moddb.com/games/blood

Tons @polar basin lots of multi level episodes, weapons mod stuff, etc.

You can now add new custom dudes too, which is mind-blowing to us old timers

All with no source code still after 23 years

[polar basin]

that's really cool!

[unique trellis]

https://youtu.be/RQSJaNU5npY

This is our modern Mapedit tool... Still in dos, but has features even modern editors for games don't.

[pearl quartz]

done with the hud, now the powerups will show on the right of the player's hud, and ammo and weapon type on the bottom

[deep wadi]

https://gfycat.com/shallowfirmhypsilophodon

HEY HATSU

FUCK YOU

YOU TRAITOR

Anyway

Decided to record myself playing the level while I was testing some of the mechanics in it because it's honestly fuckin' hilarious how fast you can go once you have it down to muscle memory.

[hazy sorrel]

hatsu more like

[echo gorge]

no

[hazy sorrel]

pissu

[indigo olive]

We're finally taking some time to do the first audio pass on some of the games areas. It's amazing how much of a difference it makes and we've not even gotten stuck into it yet!

Planning on adding environmental processing in future too, alleyways will reverb, open spaces will crack etc etc, in theory ^_^

[tranquil oracle]

hell yeah

[analog pollen]

sound is the second most important part of a game after the gameplay

[ancient sail]

agreed!

spending a lot of time right now on audio, it's what I do for a living so it's been the most fun.

[nimble socket]

pretty impressive, damn I envy the talent that probably goes into making all that work.

[rustic holly]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/767228067827286067/808928565801779200/unknown.png?width=1004&height=670

Just finished another car model

I'm still not that good with vehicles

[topaz breach]

looks good to me

[rustic holly]

Thanks

[unique trellis]

Neato

[rustic holly]

Oh and this is for my upcoming CSGO map

[wraith beacon]

Game dev.

[prisma basalt]

Gun goes shoot

[wraith beacon]

Indeed.

[pearl quartz]

wip giant robot

[pearl quartz]

final look of the robot

[unique trellis]

He look like among us yellow imposter

[pearl quartz]

no u

[slim pond]

is that your own game?

pretty sick

[candid dawn]

Thanks, yeah 👍

[slim pond]

I've always wanted to try my hand at gun mechanics

https://youtu.be/oDeadyYBqMs

[unique trellis]

Good bye pitchfork.

Hello beheading axe.

Also, where's that Dali guy?

[slender knoll]

did not expect to see this referenced in a blood mod lol

[unique trellis]

The 2nd episode is... Surreal

[unique trellis]

These look very neat

What’s the name of your mod?

[unique trellis]

https://www.blood-wiki.org/index.php/BloodLines

ModDB page isn't up for this yet but Soon (tm) 😂

[hazy sorrel]

THE
Bloodlines?

[unique trellis]

Lol

No vampires in this one

Though one of my kids thinks the madmen look like them

[hazy sorrel]

i didnt even thought about masquerade

only about blood tc ive read about years ago

[unique trellis]

Yep

Old man me is trying to finish what teenage me helped with 20 years ago.. with new and old Blood community helping

It's being playtested if anyone's interested before release

[coarse token]

I mean it was supposed to get a sequel, but idk what happened to it. Haven't heard news on it

[gentle spruce]

Has anyone been able to get Trenchbroom to work with the macOS build of Dusk? I have an M1 Mac and Dusk still runs fine, and Trenchbroom boots up fine, so I would like to start learning how to map. Hopefully there's a way to accomplish this on Mac? Bc I think the Dusk SDK is still only for Windows right?

[keen bear]

dusk sdk is windows only for now yes

so you would need a way to run windows apps on your mac

vm, etc

[deep wadi]

https://gfycat.com/infatuatedcolorlesshogget

I pray to God someone guns me down in the streets

[drifting badge]

Such an act would be in character for God

It would be an act of mercy

[unique trellis]

where is that from?

[robust ridge]

https://twitter.com/AlphaEnt_2/status/1359971281169506307?s=19

Alphaent (Blorc) 🔞 (@AlphaEnt_2)

Testing doosk on q-zandronum, a fork of the zandronum sourceports that adds a bunch of bugfixes and incorporates quake movement into the sourceport.

The patch won't be available for feb 14th, but perhaps in few months after further tests are completed. https://t.co/2TquJHmqzt

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Twitter · Feb 11, 2021, 9:03 PM

https://twitter.com/AlphaEnt_2/status/1360284561255641090?s=19

Alphaent (Blorc) 🔞 (@AlphaEnt_2)

Csdmo: more office wips.

Twitter · Feb 12, 2021, 5:48 PM

[nimble socket]

player looks a tad short

[robust ridge]

https://twitter.com/HellslingerGame/status/1360308794832650252?s=19

Hellslinger (@HellslingerGame)

More in-game footage: MP5K (plus akimbo) and China Lake grenade launcher!
*Using the Hellbound map pack for testing, highly recommended.

#retro #fps #videogame #indie #indiedev https://t.co/8YbYx8j4aL

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Twitter · Feb 12, 2021, 7:24 PM

[patent spade]

long time since ive been here.

[leaden jetty]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2217527336

[feral kite]

https://twitter.com/PlaySelaco/status/1360635571350233093

Selaco (@PlaySelaco)

Testing weapon feedback and destruction.

Our artists have made many different variations for each object to ensure that the aftermath of each encounter is palpable!

#gzdoom #indiedev #gamedev #screenshotsaturday https://t.co/NMF9biznPu

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Twitter · Feb 13, 2021, 5:02 PM

[pearl quartz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN3wmH3CaFQ

[zenith vine]

medium-to-long shot here; anybody experienced with save game systems in ue4? or know anyone who might be? I've been wrangling with it for like 2 years and it's really putting a damper on my games progress

[wraith beacon]

What kinda save system are we talking here?

[zenith vine]

the game's an FPS, has checkpointed saves through mostly linear levels, fairly basic inventory system. we have a save system plugin in place but a free one and it's crashing out a lot.

[robust ridge]

Enjoy valentine's day with a new Doosk update.

Nerfed monsters, tweaked multiplayer behaviour based on feedback received during last doosk tournament, more mutators and some bugfixes...

Standalone monsters also got updated.

Full changelog in the comment section (and inside the download)

https://www.moddb.com/mods/doosk-aka-dusk-weapons-rip/downloads

[indigo olive]

For anyone who has been following us, SPRAWL now has a steam page ^-^ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1549690/SPRAWL/

Steam

SPRAWL

Escape the walled city and take on the militarized government of the sprawl. Fueled by the blood of your enemies and a mysterious voice in your head, make your way towards the spire to topple whatever lays within.

Release Date

TBD

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[topaz breach]

neat

[hazy sorrel]

no meat

[topaz breach]

interesting, appears to be excluded from searches on steam

[indigo olive]

it literally went up like 5 mins ago, it might take some time to show up

[indigo olive]

it took like 3 minutes to appear on my side, after I hit go live it was still redirecting me to the homepage for a while

I hope that is the case though

[indigo olive]

Some gameplay footage for ya'll 😉 https://twitter.com/SprawlFPS/status/1361022512914698242

SPRAWL (@SprawlFPS)

Finally doing some early gameplay tests with the grenade launcher which will be one of a few end game weapons. AI is still in development but this is still a total blast 😉

Oh, and wishlist us on Steam 😈: https://t.co/NBnmqoueuJ

#gamedev #madewithunreal #UE4 #Cyberpunk #SPRAWL https://t.co/NobfEWxqAH

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Twitter · Feb 14, 2021, 6:40 PM

[candid dawn]

Looks satisfying 👍

[ancient sail]

My nade go DONK

[misty sparrow]

i was about to ask what makes sprawl stand out from the rest of the retrofps's

now i see what

v.neat

[marble crypt]

yeah that actually looks cool

[indigo olive]

Ayyyy ❤️ More to come, the whole arsenal will have unique mechanics that seperate them from the usual archetypes 😉

[wraith beacon]

Definitely has come a long way.

[indigo olive]

It's nice to be showing people what we've been hyping the game on internally, there will be a lot more raw gameplay footage coming as we go as people seem to appreciate seeing that more ^-^

[keen bear]

yeah looking much better, will be watching to see where you go

[outer eagle]

Wallsliding and a grenade launcher

[slender knoll]

man those explosions 👍

[dull edge]

@unique trellis here

[unique trellis]

#general-modding message

This link will lead you to videos of my mod. 😄

Posted earlier in this channel.

[dull edge]

really cool

[unique trellis]

👌

[dull edge]

maybe it'd be fine to have zombiemen die in two voltride shots

[unique trellis]

They got their damage values all over the place... so a reduction to 40% was still gonna come up fairly OP in my mod. 😅

I mean, my Super Shotgun there can deal a maximum of 480 damage per shot.

But then again, I used DOOM (2016)'s Imp as reference (it had 150 health, reduced to 40% = 60 health, which is its standard health in the OG Doom games).

[unique trellis]

But yeah like I said... zombiemen are super weak. 🤣

[dull edge]

it's just that overkill shouldn't be too easy

[unique trellis]

Well... it might not be for the Voltride.

Zombiemen have 20 health, right?

[dull edge]

with a 5x multiplier an overkill would be 250 damage

[unique trellis]

Voltride would hypothetically deal 10 damage in this mod?

Per shot.

[dull edge]

if you want a 5x multiplier then yes

[unique trellis]

So then it'd be a clean even ZERO right there. 😛

No gib.

Same thing against anybody with a multiple of 10 for their health.

[dull edge]

Making the overkill health for the voltride the same for all enemies would kind of make sense

Around -60 or somehting

[unique trellis]

XDeath's are quite screwy in Doom, though.

I mean, you can't deal damage to 'em after they're dead.

[dull edge]

shouldn't be related to gibbing imo

[unique trellis]

Anything that would've would just pass right through 'em.

[dull edge]

The important thing is that they should have a temporary state when otherwise they would die in which you can overcharge them

similar to a stagger state from new dooms

but instead of meleeing, you trigger the thing by successfully hitting the guy enough times with the voltride within that short time window

[unique trellis]

Well, that's not exactly the same thing... I get what you mean, but it's not the best idea.

Staggering in DOOM (2016)/Eternal occurs when a monster is still alive but is at a low enough health level.

If I were to do the same thing here, they'd need to have some health left. If they're dead I can't shoot 'em...

... unless...

... I were to have 'em spawn an shootable actor that can only be hit by Voltride shots, and if that gets hit enough, it'll do the chain lightning effect...

🤔

That could do it.

[coarse token]

General question, mainly for all the incredibly talented people I see post here, eg with sprawl, ultrakill, dusk, whatever the fever dream high speed rainbow game is called, and other games, do you guys make your own models, textures, and what not? I really would LOVE to finish up my games but right now the only way that is happening is if I drop a shit load of money paying for people to do the art for me. With college as my primary focus right now, learning 3d modelling, texturing and such doesn't seem like a viable option for me.

as a side note, I'd also love to work on retro fps projects that could use an extra programmer.

[keen bear]

I think it's usually a healthy mix, many of the above games had programmers who also did some of the art (or all of it), but many also had dedicated artists on the team

[drifting badge]

I would personally recommend learning 3D modelling because it makes you a more flexible developer, and it can be a nice selling point on a resume. Plus, retro art is much easier to get started with than other styles of 3D art. Most small mistakes can make the game feel more retro rather than poorly designed. That and you get to rip all the textures from photos.
If you can put a little time into learning, there's a video from Miziziziz (very good gamedev channel) that shows how to make a retro style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Wf-EegBgg&ab_channel=Miziziziz.
Apparently, there's also a paid course teaching the basics of 3D art to go along with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azH4LD6lMpo&ab_channel=Miziziziz.
Can't tell you whether it's worth paying for, but typically, courses save time over free tutorials, so that might justify the cost.
If you don't have time to learn, then I wish you the best of luck finding an artist or a team! I'm not experienced with this so I don't have advice (maybe someone else can offer their piece), but I can tell you happy hunting!

[wraith beacon]

Also remember you don't really need to worry about textures. Heck you can even make it just basic geometric shapes and still have it look nice.

[drifting badge]

GTTOD did it, so can you

[ancient sail]

learning 3d modeling now is not the same as it was when I first picked up; tons of new toolsets and workflows that makes things a lot easier. Subtance painter/designer is insane. you can get really high quality looking stuff much easier now than before.

I'd recommend it, it's a creative/problem solving exercise that's a lot of fun 90% of the time 🙂

[humble herald]

I will say this from my own experiences, you will have days where you pick up the pen and can'

t do a damn thing*

that's less to do with the software though and more your own creativity

it's a good skill to pick up, novice I am

[ancient sail]

that's the ticket with about anything as well, I do a lot of things, make music, illustrate, etc. flow state is super important; tools help you keep it or facilitate entering it

at the same time, tools aren't everything, some of the greatest musicians i've ever met can barely work a daw or do things in it that make me want to scream sometimes

sometimes like you said, you'll stare at the screen and rotate a cube a couple of times and call it a day

other times you'll whip out a gun, texture and animate it in a few hours

but i digress a bit, it's fun and worth picking it up!

[humble herald]

eyup, tough but rewarding, like any other creative work

hopefully that helped answer the question for him

[candid dawn]

fan go brr

[unique trellis]

I'm just a programmer. I wish I was even half as decent as many of the other graphics artists out there, but I'm not (yet).

Maybe I'll get there one day. For now, I grift off of graphics work from other mods... although this time around, for a new mod I'm making, I've gotten together a whole team of artists who loved my project so much they wanted to help out any way they can. So I'm getting all sorts of custom sprites arranged in such fancy ways. 😄

Of course, since nobody's getting paid, I gotta wait a long time. But I'm nothing if not patient. 😉

[unique trellis]

Same, bro... same. 😄

[coarse token]

@humble herald It kind of confirms my fears. I expected I would have to learn modelling/etc, which is what I wanted to avoid hardcore because of the big bad college timesink.

[humble herald]

@coarse token Fair enough, but at the same time I'm also a SE student, and I've managed to make some time. Just take it slow.

[unique trellis]

I have a brother who's very much into the graphical development aspect.

[unique trellis]

Haha! your brothers a neeeeeeeeeerd

[unique trellis]

A cool one at that. 😄

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771110207287590964/811103438719942666/2-15-21_008_COCKPIT_02_DEEP_FRIED_MEME.png

[humble herald]

Hey man, modding is all about being creative, even if it's a bitch to do sometimes

[unique trellis]

😎

[unique trellis]

I love it. 😄

[unique trellis]

Yeah I'm 39, married, father of 4, super full life, but love making crazy, twisted, surreal things in janky old dos Mapedit and other tools... Can create things I can't anywhere else..

Too bad it's not a useful skillset... unless unity runs in DOS mode 😂

[hazy sorrel]

[spare scarab]

wooooow that is so cool looking

[slender knoll]

Hey that's pretty neat!

[weak merlin]

you guys should be proud of the fact that you can get up and actually make something

motivation is such a hard thing to achieve

[untold niche]

The secret ingredient is coffee

[granite kite]

I heard coffee.

Coffee is good.

[unique trellis]

Starting to drip out some Blood today... you should probably read the readme with it, it's basically the first Blood map by one of the more prolific Duke3d mappers and resource providers from 1999... It ain't balanced, but it's fun to play and you can see his eye to detailing a map, 90s style, enjoy! Just thought it'd be a fun first new piece to put out for the project's drop...

[unique trellis]

I know a few of you have played the old Bloodlines beta from 2002, so here's some corresponding shots, you can see he literally rebuilt the whole map but kept same areas and play flow...

[unique trellis]

These are awesome

I put this in the Blood discord... Enjoy this old map. It's super jankified, but that's part of the appeal... need 3 life seeds?! Sure, here they are 🙂 It's cool I think though, as a historical piece and its fun

[unique trellis]

So if I wanted to learn to map in Unity, is there a freeware game you all recommend?

Specifically, a horror type of environment, not sci-fi unless it's post apocalyptic stuff...

Or is that a dumb question. I guess I could do Trenchbroom into Dusk?

[humble herald]

the problem with that is that unity basically demands you to make your own map editor, so I recommend you use trenchbroom for dusk or quake first

Unity's inbuilt scene editor is workable but not good at all for making maps, it's better for roughs.

(unless you're dave, the madman built almost all of E1's maps with the inbuilt editor)

[unique trellis]

(probuilder was still a 3rd party plugin at the time)

[humble herald]

fine fine probuilder

still not a great editor by any stretch

[unique trellis]

Got it

[paper tusk]

you have to differentiate what a map (leve,scene) is made of. There are three major options: The 90s Quake-style maps that consist solely of brushes with a few models for decoration. Then you get the modern FPS maps that are built from modular sections (say, a room corner, a hallway, a wall with doorway), which is used in games like Fallout 3, Unreal Engine 3+ games, and is more or less the standard today. Then there's a method mainly used for modern outdoor areas: A large terrain mesh which allows for smooth and unique elevation features, which is detailed with normal meshes, and indoor areas (dungeons, buildings) are again mostly made up of modular meshes. The latter two methods are perfectly fine to use in Unity's scene editor, while the old brush-based method requires either a third-party plugin like ProBuilder, your own solution, or importing of map data from other applications like Trenchbroom.

[unique trellis]

Modular meshes...

https://tenor.com/view/yuck-gross-disgust-eww-steve-carell-gif-3556274

[wraith beacon]

Brush based level editing in current year

[outer eagle]

Yea... who would do that... so crazy lol.

[unique trellis]

Oh man I can't read the sarcasm and I don't know that emoji..

Now prefabs I'm good with... like I could make "jankychair3" or "CRTmonitor" or "memesign7"and I think that's appropriate...

Then plop them in

[gusty flame]

brush BASED level editing

[slim pond]

https://twitter.com/thelukaswils/status/1362199227418497033?s=20

Luke I. Wilson (@thelukaswils)

My game is almost done! Check out VRMN NVZN on https://t.co/wpXBHHKNCM:

https://t.co/eJGODzkKZA

Discord link on that page

#gamedev #startups https://t.co/AR6gpA3aUp

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Twitter · Feb 18, 2021, 12:36 AM

[rustic holly]

Imagine working in a brush based engine but now the mainstay is just using models and displacement meshes for all the visible geo.

Couldn’t be me.

[indigo olive]

We're using UE4 for SPRAWL and every day I think about the day that I will have the free time to write a brush based engine specifically for our needs.

@gusty flame is spitting straight facts

that being said, Unity does have Realtime CSG https://realtimecsg.com/

https://realtimecsg.com/images/prefabdragging.gif can even use prefabs of brushes

[indigo olive]

Also! New SPRAWL video showing off our super shotgun 😉 https://twitter.com/SprawlFPS/status/1362439515017785348

SPRAWL (@SprawlFPS)

What's a hardcore FPS without a sick super shotgun?

But this one has a little extra.... kick.

Wishlist on Steam: https://t.co/NBnmqoueuJ

Join our Discord: https://t.co/R1vGOuuvQB

#gamedev #madewithunreal #UE4 #Cyberpunk #SPRAWL https://t.co/P11W23VYp3

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Twitter · Feb 18, 2021, 4:31 PM

[unique trellis]

GONNA GO POINT BLANK ON THESE FREAKS

[keen bear]

cycle time seems a bit long

cool stuff though

[indigo olive]

gotta balance it somehow 😉 and reload cancelling will help 😛

We might rebalance it later though

[keen bear]

yeah, i get that, just noting that even from the footage it seems to have an identity as more of a traversal tool than a weapon

which isnt necessarily a bad thing

[patent spade]

https://twitter.com/bread_warrior/status/1362195187477471233?s=21

Bread (@Bread_Warrior)

fire animation is now complete. might make more hammer animations but for now all that is left is the code :) #DoomModding #Doom https://t.co/nhDK0vzdoN

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Twitter · Feb 18, 2021, 12:20 AM

[desert notch]

will there ever be a mod that removes the gloves from doom guys hands

[unique trellis]

There probably is

Why do you want that anyway?

[desert notch]

wrinkly wrist phobia

[marble crypt]

There are mods that have color changes for the gloves so it looks less like a weird wrinkly hand

[feral kite]

https://twitter.com/PlaySelaco/status/1362923453746184196

Selaco (@PlaySelaco)

How it started: How it's going:

Selaco has come such a long way since the days when it was just a Doom mod. Getting here hasn't been easy, but with a great team and the amazing support from all of you, we couldn't be more confident in Selaco.

#indiedev #screenshotsaturday https://t.co/Mx8ZfR7r4d

Likes

229

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Twitter · Feb 20, 2021, 12:34 AM

[unique trellis]

PEW PEW PEW EVIL MAGICS.

[frosty hazel]

Noice

[solar inlet]

Ultrakill map jam when

[verbal cosmos]

[unique trellis]

😏

[misty sparrow]

What mod is this?

[humble herald]

Think it's some work in progress being made by him Jab

[unique trellis]

Yeppers. Thought y'all would like to see one of the new weapons

[unique trellis]

Dis.

https://www.blood-wiki.org/index.php/BloodLines

[hazy sorrel]

jab dosent know about:
bloodlines

[restive berry]

dudee why i got banned from blood server?

guys can someone give me the new blood script plssss?

[unique trellis]

what

[restive berry]

the blood script i asked on blood server and they banned me :/

[tranquil oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/421043816854847499/785063673974358026/blood-gui-key-wink.gif

[restive berry]

;-;

😦

[coarse token]

I am incredibly confused

[unique trellis]

Nobody asks for the new blood script...and lives!

[coarse token]

I looked up "new blood gui v5" and I only found references to a roblox tycoon game.

[tranquil oracle]

it's some stupid ass roblox cheat client

[untold niche]

How dishonorable

[coarse token]

I mean, alright I guess.

[unique trellis]

Uh... Blood script?

[tidal fulcrum]

some roblox cheat code 🤷‍♂️

[unique trellis]

...roblox is moddable so I guess it's relevant 🙃

[rocky bobcat]

Hey you, do you have h3vr, do you know how to mod.

https://bonetome.com/h3vr/weapons/321/ try this gun from strafe.

[tired warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLFgwo-_V18

[humble herald]

@rocky bobcat I have someone I might torture with this

[candid dawn]

@tired warren that yours? looks cool

[tired warren]

Nah it's not mine

Just something I found randomly on Youtube

But I love the aesthetic of it

[candid dawn]

yeah reminds me of project downfall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98JnXba7IVY

[tired warren]

the M4 with no rear sight though

[hazy sorrel]

Unplayable

[echo gorge]

inplayable

[iron edge]

https://modworkshop.net/mod/31078

made my first ever mod today

its a custom heist track for payday 2

[brittle yew]

System Shock 2 Alternate Start lets you skip character creation, beginning the game with a blank slate and a handful of cyber modules to build your character in any direction. Includes a unique mission summary for each military career!
https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=11621

[winged jacinth]

does the doosk mod include an endless mode

[indigo olive]

https://twitter.com/SprawlFPS/status/1364249236414599171 new shield grunt enemy design 👀

SPRAWL (@SprawlFPS)

Shield man, shield man.
Who will he bonk?

Wishlist on Steam: https://t.co/NBnmqoueuJ

Join our Discord: https://t.co/R1vGOuuvQB

#gamedev #madewithunreal #UE4 #Cyberpunk #SPRAWL https://t.co/gOxW3yYwP7

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Twitter · Feb 23, 2021, 4:22 PM

[unique trellis]

Just tried that Doosk mod.... What a cool experience.

[feral kite]

https://twitter.com/PlaySelaco/status/1364304287954837508

Selaco (@PlaySelaco)

Selaco features a wide selection of powerful weapons, all of which can be upgraded with Weapon Parts or modified by using Alt-Fire Alternators in your Workshop.

Besides Dawn's fists, the UC-36 and E-SG 24 will be your first two weapons in Selaco.

#retrofps #indiedev #gamedev

Twitter · Feb 23, 2021, 8:01 PM

[unique trellis]

That sounds really nice

[unique trellis]

Why don’t you try it out yourself

[indigo olive]

Just wanted to quickly show off the scale of what we're trying to do with the levels in SPRAWL. Here is a quick shot of E1M1, it's not actually that huge overall, but most of the gameplay is actually sandwiched in vertical layers.

You can be running down an alleyway and 10 mins later look of the edge of a building and recognize where you just were.

E1M1 alone is around 20-30 minutes of gameplay with no backtracking, cutscenes or padding, all within the horizontal space of the average 10-15 minute level in most others.

We're aiming to keep this level of density up for all of the levels in SPRAWL!

[unique trellis]

These look awesome

[topaz breach]

so you could say it's

sprawling

[ancient sail]

lmao

[ancient sail]

thanks!

[unique trellis]

DANGIT I WAS ABOUT TO CRACK WISE WITH THAT.

Now I'm just sprawled on the floor in defeat.

[winged jacinth]

i did

oh well i didnt like it

lol

the only thing i didnt like about dusk was the weapon switch speed

its slow

kind of

and that carried over to doosk

[keen bear]

the switch speed is instant, its the cycle time you dislike

after firing you have to wait a full cycle

[winged jacinth]

oh

yea

that

you cant switch right after you fire

like the super shotgun and all

[hearty notch]

that's to prevent skipping the reload animation

if you could, you'd be able to fire another shot instantly just by switching to another weapon and back to the ssg

[coarse token]

it's inconstent in swap speeds in that regard- it's based off fire rate, so swapping off xbow, riveter, assault rifle, pistols, etc is super duper fast, but mortar and SSG are mega slow comparatively

[indigo olive]

How do people feel about that? Reload cancel spamming is still an issue I need to design out of sprawl. We could put a limit on when you can spawn back to that weapon instead? That seems like a half measure. It's a hard one.

[feral kite]

Personally would rather not have to factor in reload cancelling in improving at a game

It's aight in DE where it's sort of just a fun trick

[coarse token]

depends on whether or not you need to balance for multiplayer

I'd say it's typically a bad thing for multiplayer balancing, just by experience it makes the skill gap harder to cross for players and can create a lot of funky combos. Some people like that but for consistency in multiplayer it can be difficult to balance around.
if sprawl is just singleplayer then for sure, keep it in, 100%.

[unique trellis]

I personally think that in SP instant switch is fun but don't necessarily think it is balanced, it really depends on wherever the game is designed around it.
In MP it is straight up unacceptable, I worked on a game some time ago and was so upset other devs did not see the issue with being able to fire a 120, 80, and 100 HP damage weapons in less than a second.

[coarse token]

See: DOOM ETERNAL's Battlemode.

slayer is, AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, at least, underpowered compared to the demons, the game is balanced around the feature of weapon quickswitch

[unique trellis]

I cannot speak about DE cause I never played it

I'll take your words for it

[coarse token]

I only mean to say that there is a way to design a game with it in mind and be balanced, or even a necessity in order to compete

[unique trellis]

I was thinking about a situation where players have same HP.
If it's a situation of asymmetrical deathmatch I think it's justified within certain bounds

[coarse token]

well, in that case, See: Quake

it can be done well, but you have to be careful with it

[unique trellis]

Quake has that as long as you do not fire the weapon

I guess my example was not clear about the fact that I was thinking in terms of post fire cooldown

My issue is with being able to switch weapon immediately after firing regardless of the power of the weapon

[coarse token]

my example wasn't clear in that I was actually thinking of quake champions. You can fire a rail pretty much immediately after most weapons are done firing

lg to rail is nasty af

[unique trellis]

Yes but after you fire a rail you have to wait a bit before you swithc

LG has fast fire rate but a single hit is 7 HP or whatever it is now

[coarse token]

down to 6. sad

[unique trellis]

sad

[coarse token]

you can still melt with it though

it's just a lot more positional instead of aim

eg bounce pads

[unique trellis]

Does it still have knowckback strong enough to levitate players?

[coarse token]

oh yeah 100%

[unique trellis]

Thank god

[coarse token]

a little too much at times honestly

in any case, my point is that weapon quick switch is fine if done well, but you need to balance the game around it, because otherwise it's just broken

[granite kite]

So.... this channel is for modding things, yes?

I need some help, if possible.

To start, this is purely for Story Mode. I have zero interest is modding the online side of the game.

The request: need help figuring out how the modding scene for GTAV works. Seen some GORGEOUS screencaps and I want to see if my system can run those or similar.

[sharp vortex]

@oblique magnet I found a solution pretty quickly. Google every question ever.
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Blender_Source_Tools

[oblique magnet]

thanks man

[sharp vortex]

it's likely going to be a bit more involved, like you might have to do a few conversions, but yeah

just read up on it, google it, etc. etc.

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Blender_Source_Tools_Help @oblique magnet some of this might help too

[oblique magnet]

alright, cool

[earnest lily]

hi @unique trellis

So like

you can post anything modding related in this channel?

crap, can't post files

https://i.imgur.com/3q1RmL7.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/cCHJisQ.jpeg

Lately I've been working on a demake of Serious Sam : The First Encounter HD

https://gfycat.com/DiscreteWarmBillygoat

[outer eagle]

Damn I really like that reload

[earnest lily]

Hah, thanks. Took quite a bit to get it right

I mostly did animations and design work

there's two other lads on the team who have been mainly doing texturing and env / char modeling

[tranquil oracle]

Anything modding or game development-related

You'll be able to upload files once you obtain the Rat rank, which you'll get automatically by chatting in the server

[earnest lily]

gamedev is sadly NDA'd 😔 so enjoy mods for now

[unique trellis]

my man

[winged jacinth]

why

it makes the game more fun or something

at least for em

[indigo olive]

We've currently got an issue where you can spam shotgun then grenade then shotgun then grenade super fast... it's broken xD

We're also balancing fo multiplayer

sorry wrong channel xD

[misty sparrow]

Why balance your mp

Make it a clusterfuck

[outer eagle]

If you and others involved enjoy it enough then I reckon keep it

[indigo olive]

we dont mind there being silly things in mp

[outer eagle]

Fast weapon switching works, just look at Q3 CPMA

[indigo olive]

but like, it's so broken we need to fix it, we're leaving things like small movement exploits akin to bunny hopping and stuff

but this is like rocket to railgun to rocket etc

[outer eagle]

sure it ain't for everyone but making fun weapon combats and switching aiming styles real quick is super satisfying

[indigo olive]

I guess we'll playtest mp with and without sometime

[outer eagle]

oh how fast we talking?

like almost instant? cause CPMA has it fairly fast but it isn't instantaneous

[indigo olive]

like .6 seconds I thin

0.3 to put away

0.3 to bring new one up

[misty sparrow]

Make sure to leave in cool bugs like we did in Duskworld for when you die while holding a certain weapon with a certain power up you don’t actually die you just turn invisible so you can bhop around the map as a ssg welding immortal ghost and win the game ezpz

[indigo olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtPDKELEWJw

you can see the switch sped here

[outer eagle]

Oh, not sure how fast CPMA/Other ArenaFPS akin to it have it at but that seems super fucking fast

[indigo olive]

and how much it would cut the reload time

it's not like saving 0.4s or something

it's saving like whole seconds

[unique trellis]

Amazing work, Nitronik.

[earnest lily]

Thank you thank you!

[winged jacinth]

lol

[indigo olive]

SPRAWL Software Mode? 😉

[unique trellis]

[feral kite]

Ah man not in mp 😦

Reload cancelling shouldn't have to be a factor in playing optimally especially in multiplayer

Though that's me

[keen bear]

Postfx or actual software rendering?

[indigo olive]

Well it's naively rendering at that resolution which most dont but no it's not actual software rendering it's a shader for the dithering and a low internal resolution for the pixelisation.

[keen bear]

ah yeah, figured that was the case

[feral kite]

https://twitter.com/PlaySelaco/status/1365391529309835265

Selaco (@PlaySelaco)

Get ready, a gameplay video is coming soon!

#gzdoom #retroFPS #indiedev #gamedev

Twitter · Feb 26, 2021, 8:01 PM

[tired warren]

👀

[unique trellis]

Do weapons fire where your crosshair is or are we still slave of Graf's mantra "the crosshair is where you look not where you aim"?

[feral kite]

Not really sure what you mean, yeah weapons fire into the crosshair

Do you mean like quake 2 where you fire from the guns instead of to the crosshair?

[unique trellis]

gzdoom firing functions do not provide crosshair accurate firing.
If you want that you have to code it in yourself

you have to do that in ZScript, any attempt to do that in decorate is a failure from the start

It will not grant accuracy in every scensrio

[feral kite]

Ohh I think I know what you're referring to from the tweet

Nah we just had the crosshairs moved away from the kill so it was more visible

[unique trellis]

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=66561

If you have interest and have a little patience you can make all wepon accurate in around an hour or two of work

1999 technology all the way

[white ore]

Already done! 💙 Still thanks for looking out.

[unique trellis]

Nobody should have inaccurate weapons in the 21st century

[white ore]

Did modders ever manage to fix that nonsense in Q2?

any attempt to do that in decorate is a failure from the start

Making the jump to ZScript was the best choice I have ever made. Seriously.

The power you get 🤤

[indigo olive]

how much engine source modification have you done?

I'm not too up to speed with GZDoom

[feral kite]

I still don't understand why q2 is that way, near enough every game based on branches of the same engine has correct centre firing

[unique trellis]

Inaccurate weapon firing is a residue of early '90s where there was no crosshair drawn on screen

It luckily faded away over the years

The idea was that a regular person is holding the weapon in his hands at around waist height so it should fire from that height

Not sure when it was fixed but Q3 was the first id engine to have had accurate firing

[earnest lily]

how badly offset does it get at a distance?

[unique trellis]

It does not get worse over the distance.
If the weapon is fired 20 units below the center of the player camera it will hit 20 units below the projection of the player camera over the map geonetry

Nowadays we can fire weapons at any height and make them always hit the crosshair thank to a couple of trigonometry calculations

It was actually doable since Doom I it's just that nobody thought it was something that needed to be addressed

Then we added crosshairs on the player HUD and we realized there was a disconnect between where you aim and where your weapons hit

The only scenario where we have to hack away is when player is standing very close to a solid object, then if you did the trigonometry thing and fired you would see your shots fire almost vertically up.
In that case you just tweak the code to simply fire straight forward, you can't see the difference anyway in that scenario

[unique trellis]

https://youtu.be/m5P3hI5zmFI

Newest XMapedit update out... We can do alot of crap in Blood now 😂

but we cannot move away from dosbox 😔

[earnest lily]

BUILD mapping tools seem fairly complex to grasp

[unique trellis]

I'd say any engine to do anything complex is a big thing to bite into. I've used it off and on for 25 years, it's easy to produce a simple map quickly, but difficult to make something really crazy.

I think now especially, Blood is very WYSIWYG.

[winged jacinth]

is that sprawl

[spare scarab]

that is absolutely awesome and i love it

[earnest lily]

Thanks for the love homie

[topaz breach]

Are you going to call it Serious Sam: TFE SD

[earnest lily]

you know

The name is something we're still playing around with

right now the working title is "lolpoly"

for... reasons

[winged jacinth]

project polygon strategy

[earnest lily]

what

[unique trellis]

I can only find a Polygon Project vtuber

[indigo olive]

yeah

[brittle yew]

Efforts to improve the final bossfight in SS2 (coming soon to a mod near you):
-Shields now change color as they're damaged
-Shields are regenerated when the boss is below 50% health
-Boss health greatly increased
-Rebalanced damage type vulnerabilities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZNeD9aXLE

[amber heron]

im interested in ultrakill modding a bit

but do not know where to start

[echo gorge]

You can make custom ultrakill cybergrind maps

[amber heron]

uh more like the regular level modding

[echo gorge]

Yeah pitr is working on a level editor

So far only a handful of people have access to it

[amber heron]

ah

[echo gorge]

The only other way to mod the game is unity black magic

[amber heron]

legit thought he was just a really good modder

[echo gorge]

No he is a programmer

[amber heron]

aight i can wait for the tool

[echo gorge]

👍

[amber heron]

then i shall stop getting distracted by new projects and actually work on making my web garbage functional

[winged jacinth]

nice

this looks like it might run on my pc

[misty sparrow]

what else that mod do

[brittle yew]

Primarily it's a balance mod. There are new uses for Repair, Hack and Research skill requirements are less front-loaded, combat skills are retooled with changes to weapon attributes (e.g. Standard weapons benefit more from reload speed/clip size mods, Heavy skill starts with the Stasis Field Generator instead of the Grenade Launcher, Exotic weapons don't degrade), the less valuable O/S upgrade perks come with new utilities (e.g. Pack Rat allows you to stack food and junk items in your inventory), character creation is more differentiated with additional starting items, and I've done a lot to rework resource distribution. It's intended to be a faithful upgrade to gameplay

https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=11194

[misty sparrow]

thats fucking amazing

does it also "fix" some of the more useless weapons/makes the ar not the best gun in the game?

[brittle yew]

Yes

There's a lot to it, some of it relying on other mods (you have to install SS2Tool patch + SCP mod to even use my mod)

SS2Tool notably nerfs the Shotgun/AR damage values, adds 10 incendiary damage to the Fusion Cannon (so it's good against both robotic and organic targets), and increases the Worm Launcher turning rate to help it track targets

SCP inherits a bunch of changes from ADaOB, some good and some bad (which have all been reverted by SCP or SS2-RSD). Of the good remaining, you have:
-A reduction in the damage multipliers for Armor Piercing/Anti-Personnel rounds from 4x->3x on optimal targets, so standard weapons aren't so dominant
-The EMP rifle Overcharge mode properly inherits the 2x stim mult it was supposed to have
-The Viral Proliferator has a poison effect

SS2-RSD does a bunch which are all covered in the changelist, but here are the highlights:
-Wrench no longer receives damage bonuses from Standard
-Standard weapons have smaller clips and longer reload times (but can be modified)
-Assault Rifle is forced 2-round burst minimum so care must be taken to use it efficiently
-Stasis Field Generator is a starter utility weapon for Heavy with Grenade Launcher coming later
-Grenade Launcher damage bonuses fixed (ADaOB balance reverted, overly high modification damage bonuses fixes)
-Fusion Cannon does more energy damage at the cost of more prisms
-Spent prisms can be repaired and recharged with the Repair skill (essentially a cheap way to "buy" more)
-Exotic weapons don't degrade

I also have an AI enhancement mod that I've shown off before on the server:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu_UGpkUZwQ

[misty sparrow]

you're doing the lords work, dude

oh you even have your own website for all your stuff

[brittle yew]

Thanks! And yeah, I thought it would be a good idea to organize all my stuff in one place, since I have multiple mods for 3 different games spread across 3 different websites (ModDB, Nexus, SystemShock.org)

[robust ridge]

Unlisted video for an upcoming csdmo update.

Trailer should be released after update becomes public sometime this month.
https://youtu.be/V0BG0Fm-mII

[candid dawn]

that looks very fun ^

[feral kite]

https://mobile.twitter.com/PlaySelaco/status/1366511188767608833

Selaco (@PlaySelaco)

Not much longer until our gameplay reveal! We are very stoked to finally share more about combat.

For the time being, here is a slide kick!

#gzdoom #retroFPS #indiedev #gamedev https://t.co/hrp9BRLbGq

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 1, 2021, 10:10 PM

[hazy sorrel]

stop shilling ffs

[unique trellis]

POINT BLANK!

[slender knoll]

quiet you furry pfp

[hazy sorrel]

be less noisy, shush finoloid

[white ore]

He is involved with the game though

[hazy sorrel]

Even worse!

[earnest lily]

That makes it even more of a shill

Does it not

[white ore]

No, shilling is when you keep promoting/ talking about something without having involvement with the subject.

[hazy sorrel]

damn ppl shilling here all day

[earnest lily]

anger

seethe, perhaps

annoyance, possibly

[unique trellis]

Come on we are all cool

So let's be cool

[white ore]

https://tenor.com/view/freeze-chill-cold-ice-pun-gif-9196890

[hazy sorrel]

no, this is very heated conversation

[earnest lily]

There was fire!

[unique trellis]

Don't you dare tell me to argue with people on the internet

[brittle yew]

No, shilling is when you keep promoting/ talking about something without having involvement with the subject.
Wait so it's categorically impossible for self-promotion to count as shilling? based

[white ore]

I have no idea why the word 'shilling' gets thrown around so much lately 😛 Self promotion is just called self promotion

As an indie dev, it's an important tool to reach an audience.

[tranquil oracle]

Sounds like something a shill would say

[white ore]

...Except I didnt shill.

Anyway, whatever 😛

[coarse token]

probably because the word shill is engrained into all newblood discord server users because of the shillbot

I think it got renamed though

[tepid salmon]

super general question but does anyone know with what platform/engine ultrakill was made?

[south dawn]

Unity

[tepid salmon]

thanks

[indigo olive]

This is basically a dedicated shilling channel

unrelated note: BUY SPRAWL

[outer eagle]

I would if I could!

[hazy sorrel]

if i had any kind of money i would consider that

[indigo olive]

The joke being you cant buy it yet 😂

not for sale 😤 all mine.

[hazy sorrel]

The joke being i cant buy anything

[unique trellis]

I WILL

[earnest lily]

why should I

dun dun DUNNN

[fallow kindle]

😳

[weak root]

little bit of a moddb update for age of hell 😄
https://twitter.com/Bridgeburner4/status/1367153449519878148?s=19

Bridgeburner (@Bridgeburner4)

Moddb update covering off Bastion of Chaos: Age of Hell edition, the mid episode boss Hasmodel, and a bit of general progress

#ageofhell #gzdoom #leveldesign #gamedev

https://t.co/Ma7YxFUXPS

Twitter · Mar 3, 2021, 4:42 PM

[candid dawn]

hello #shilling-general I have gibs for you

[inland bolt]

It’s lookin really good!

[candid dawn]

thank you!

[thick kite]

how 2 make enemies duck behind cover in hlm2's editor

[tired hound]

holy crap that looks sick

[rotund garden]

anyone who know how the fuck the Hammer editor works

there's a TF2 trade map that has a place where you can imput a code and it'll teleport you to somewhere

But I don't understand what any of this is lol

and I found the place where you have to put the code

is there a way to see what are the buttons that you have to press?

there's a trigger_teleport in front of it

wait

[stable lake]

Dude what is that game

It looks sick

[hazy sorrel]

my wild guess the code is

11

uh

1

[stable lake]

Code?

[hazy sorrel]

The Code

[rocky bobcat]

heres a fun question to you folks

where on this would you put a magazine in.

[outer eagle]

aaaaaaahhhh

💦

[rocky bobcat]

what

no seriously where would you put in a magazine

[sudden imp]

Stock

[rocky bobcat]

stock.

bullpup?

[sudden imp]

That end not of the stock could be the mag

[hazy sorrel]

[rocky bobcat]

hm, wonder if i can import the railgun ammo model.

downsize it.

[outer eagle]

Looks like you gotta be creative, I'd say the little charge indicator on the top part of the rail

[rocky bobcat]

then work from there.

[outer eagle]

I'd say make that some charging clip or something

[rocky bobcat]

hm.

[rocky bobcat]

problem is.

later on im going to implement the ammo bar indicatiors

my goal rn is to get it functional.

[inland bolt]

Put the mag in the barrel like a G11

[rocky bobcat]

...

oh my god no

just no.

[outer eagle]

oh I guess having it act as a detachable clip/ammo indicator is a bit too complex? I dunno the current limitations are with H3VR weapon mods

[rocky bobcat]

see heres the next problem

I dont have a MODEL for the railguns magazine.

lol

[hazy sorrel]

lol

[outer eagle]

hence my suggestion, make one

[rocky bobcat]

so i gotta get extra creative.

I'm not doing that, because it will not look good.

fuck uhh

do railguns ammo look different from other mags, or do they use the same box.

[outer eagle]

you reckon? I'm not good at conveying this sort of thing

I think they had the one model for ammo in STRAFE? can't remember

[sudden imp]

Maybe a side mag

[rocky bobcat]

hm

now to actually try to import it.

[tough knoll]

hey new here is there like user created levels or anything for mods?

[outer eagle]

Just for clarification sake: my idea was have this part here be a socket with the charging indicator in there being like a little charge clip/mag or whatever you wanna call it that can be plugged in or removed whilst also indicating charge amount

The compound pistol also has a overheating mechanic but I assume that can't be utilized yet.

[rocky bobcat]

Hm

@outer eagle thing is, i kinda wanna make it reloadable.

and i got an ammo type that will work

[outer eagle]

You do you, just spitballing

[candid dawn]

Hey thanks, its called Severed Steel there isn't much info about it out now, trailer and steam page coming soon though

feel free to dm me if you want a discord link

[unique trellis]

I'm thinking you pop out the black thing in the middle and thats the magazine

[feral kite]

https://twitter.com/PlaySelaco/status/1368563320618446852

Selaco (@PlaySelaco)

Spend the weekend adding death animations for our death animations.

Want to decapitate the enemy who is still in the process of dying? You can now do so!

This enemy type has over 25 death animations and more are still being added as development goes on!

#gzdoom #gamedev https://t.co/DPdHufOXQ0

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 7, 2021, 2:04 PM

[hazy sorrel]

damn shillin again

[slender knoll]

nice pfp konrad

[echo gorge]

nice pfp konrad

[indigo olive]

https://twitter.com/SprawlFPS/status/1368649371768791048

SPRAWL (@SprawlFPS)

We're working on lots of fun little set pieces to splash throughout levels that really bring the world to life!

Wishlist on Steam: https://t.co/NBnmqoueuJ

Join our Discord: https://t.co/R1vGOuuvQB

#gamedev #madewithunreal #UE4 #Cyberpunk #SPRAWL https://t.co/yXE0SysZr9 https://t.co/F5STrktqE5

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 7, 2021, 7:46 PM

</shill>

[ancient sail]

good shill

also heli go BRRRR

[feral kite]

Why are people saying this now

Brilliant set piece btw, bit of a small thing to pick out but the overall palette of these cityscapes is spot on

Feels vast and hostile but also comfy at the same time, KP had a very similar appeal for me

[indigo olive]

There will hopefully be a few different palettes throughout the game! Hopefully all as fitting as this one! ^-^

[rocky bobcat]

...hm...the gun in question is barret 50 cal.

is this too big.

[ancient sail]

Thanks!!! Put a lot of effort in keeping things consistent with lighting, textures etc

[stable lake]

Dude srsly what is that game? Is it one your working on or what

[indigo olive]

It's called "Impact" and yeah it's a thing he's working on.

[stable lake]

Thx

Thx

[humble herald]

@rocky bobcat is this for the railgun you were asking about earlier?

[candid dawn]

thanks 👍

[frosty hazel]

Huh, so melonloader does work with ultrakill

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788208995105505303/818630443355340851/Screenshot_537.png

https://github.com/LavaGang/MelonLoader.Installer/releases/latest/download/MelonLoader.Installer.exe

this means people can make stuff like API's for modding and such for it, that's what btd6 did for mods

or you can just scramble up some raw code without any API's

[unique trellis]

I prefer BepInEx

[frosty hazel]

eh, it's alright

not the best thing in the world

[toxic hemlock]

koikatsu modder

[unique trellis]

nah

I used some injector before

[frosty hazel]

just depends on if bepinex works for ultrakill

but melonloader is working fine since the console is showing no errors

[analog pollen]

people have used bepinex so that works too

[tranquil oracle]

Would there be a reason that MelonLoader wouldn't work?

[keen bear]

real modders use UPM

[tranquil oracle]

[rocky bobcat]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ITS DONE FINALLY.

@shut sedge

[outer eagle]

Looks and sounds great, good work

[rocky bobcat]

@outer eagle fun fact i had to fix the shotgun a bit.

lol

[outer eagle]

yea?

[rocky bobcat]

the sight wasnt meant to be that awful.

and not so dark.

its fixed.

But frankly.

i like the vieo.

[rocky bobcat]

@outer eagle https://bonetome.com/h3vr/weapons/371/ THE GUNS ARE DONE.

[feral kite]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SelacoGame/status/1370104429324685319

Selaco (@SelacoGame)

At long last, a proper gameplay clip! We still have a ton of new enemy types, weapons, tools and combat moves to show, we'll be showing them over the next few weeks.

Here is a gameplay clip of the demo level that will be available in the near future!

#gzdoom #indiedev #retroFPS https://t.co/aHYI2tjrPA

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 11, 2021, 8:08 PM

[earnest lily]

I don't know where

but I have heard that asault rifle sound before

and I love it just as the first time

[feral kite]

There are a few placeholder sounds still in there, though AFAIK the UC-36 firing sound is a fresh asset

[earnest lily]

I love it

[unique trellis]

I think the guns could use a bit more shading

they give me a classic feel of models rendered in GZDoom (fullbright no shades)

[tired warren]

Doesn't the Halo CE shotgun use a stock sound effect?

[inland bolt]

The assault rifle does