general-modding

[edgy cedar]

@celest lichen

@west haven smite the gif

[obtuse fossil]

@floral stirrup

[west haven]

bruh

[obtuse fossil]

Brah

[dusky pivot]

Also

[floral stirrup]

ping the role next time!!!!

[obtuse fossil]

Oki dokey

[hazy sky]

bruh

[stiff thorn]

been there, mostly depends on your sense of responsibility I'd say. If you're not usually ghosting people once you can't get something done or experience delays and do feel the need to complete, at the very least, small promises, then it can be a good way to push past that "I don't really feel like doing that today...", since there's another person depending on your progress

just my two cents on the matter, may not work the same for you

[solid cedar]

any mods that turn me into minos prime?

wrong channel

[ocean tusk]

Hello

[sharp vortex]

Straight up Jakeing it
2

[fleet fulcrum]

and by "it", haha, well. let's justr say...

[spare lantern]

CHAT

do u guys recomend any mods on r2modman

for ultrapeak

bro this server has to many channels

😭

[merry lotus]

#ultrakill-modding

[maiden juniper]

Nice

[hazy sky]

WE'RE RICH

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1961415725387530708 👀

KS98 (Retrowave '84/Knife Edge 05 Dev) (@GameDevKS)

All these revolvers pack some stopping power...
︀︀Some just have more than others!💥

**❤️ 11 👁️ 164 **

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FxTwitter · Aug 29, 2025, 1:08 PM

[earnest lily]

https://fixvx.com/DomAnt2/status/1961856571190768084

Dom (@DomAnt2)

A glimpse of what is to come this #screenshotsaturday : #tugg is employing some of his new tricks in this NEW #siroccothugs #sciroccothugs level!

You can check out the Steam Page down below 👇 [1/2] https://t.co/eTAgpIcq9o

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vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 30, 2025, 6:20 PM

[past flint]

i finished my demo! https://real-life-productions.itch.io/manic-in-quake-demo

what do you think?

[sharp vortex]

(Feedback based on screenshots, haven't played it)
I think the colors used are pretty nice. The hedge-maze look with a blue-purple night sky is pretty cool, and I'm fond of the red drenched hallway.
I think the use of more vivid colored lighting like that is great.

I do think there's much to be desired with the level design itself.
It's very blocky and square... I think a lot of it needs some extra visual flair and some scaling adjustment (let alone actual level design adjustment, but this is something that kind of needs to be learned over time).

"Visual" verticality can go a long way, I think adding indents into floors and ceilings where applicable is a good start.
Simple stuff like adding pillars/supports along walls is another easy win. Trims along stone walls/ ceilings.
Easy "brush props" like wood barrels, small and large crates, caskets, tombstones (I'm just throwing stuff out based on the vibe I'm getting).
Changing up some of the scaling too. It looks like this was created with like a 32/64 unit lock/snap? I think playing much further down into the 4-8-16 realm (but trying to keep it uniform still i.e. not just placing random varying thickness brushes willynilly) can add some variety.
"Beveling" some surfaces by using the clipping tool on some corners (but dont go too ham with it).

Regardless of my criticism, good job. Despite my knowledge of this stuff I still have yet to really make anything "longform" of any variety and commend the effort something like this takes

[waxen plover]

@earnest lily https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ulN_mOy44

[earnest lily]

[pure jackal]

Oh sticks

[past flint]

thank you man, most of level designs were inspired by Doom (1998) and you can kinda see that to be honest but i think i would add props in full game would make it cooler and more vivid colored would help the game so i think i would take that path to be honest but again thanks for feedback

[crimson lion]

that looks sick

[dusky pivot]

Thanks!

[inner prawn]

Wait i was following ya already, faz o L

[desert shard]

Can't wait to yeet more goons

Made a smol arcadey shooter over the weekend

https://badpiggy.itch.io/d-vour

[waxen plover]

dots

[inner prawn]

This is sick

[runic widget]

@misty gale its not ai generated, I made it based off of this thing I got from a molecule website

it's just a different angle of that molecule

[misty gale]

OH I see the angle now, yeah that was a pretty weird angle in the original pic

[runic widget]

sorry for that lol

[misty gale]

And uhh.. yeah I'd say it tastes good

That's glycine

[hazy sky]

@earnest lily why does this guy look like your thugs

[muted stirrup]

👀

(Still need to tweak some of the weapon/hand positions but its getting there)

[polar jasper]

too much dual wielding it looks like a gronf video thumbnail

[muted stirrup]

nah everything gonna be dual wieldable lol

[inner prawn]

Alot of akimbo indeed

[solemn pendant]

anyone know any good ultrakill mods

[polar jasper]

this is the game Drv channel Buddy...

[hazy sky]

PLEASE make the akimbo gun have mirrored recoil because it's so weird seeing the left gun have a right sideways kick

[muted stirrup]

Im planing on swapping out alot of the base anims atm for new ones, but yeah that shouldnt be an issue

[kind echo]

Currently translanting Gloomwood in french but nothing changes in game
idk why 🙁
Do i need special software to port in the game ? I just made a copy of the english translantiopn, delete the one in the localization folder justo keep the french one but notyhing happen

[pulsar hazel]

does anyone want to help me

never mind

[pulsar hazel]

can someone help me

[austere wave]

Who's saw blood moon?

Who*

[thick lantern]

R2modman work on TF2?

[pure jackal]

took me 2 and a half hours but I got this bastard UV'd properly

[earnest lily]

refreshed the HUD a little

[hazy sky]

can you make the combo bar tremble as it depletes out?

that would look dope

[pure jackal]

good abyssal line updates coming soon >:]

[hazy sky]

what's abyssal line

[toxic hemlock]

if u replace the second S with an M its everything u have ever written

[earnest lily]

I have it do that when it's in the overcharge state

[spare scarab]

from the trenchbroom git page

[pulsar hazel]

from https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases

[pure jackal]

Train game

[hazy sky]

which train game

[pure jackal]

[azure flume]

Is it even a game if there's no train?

[dusky pivot]

Game some friends and I are making

[hazy sky]

at this point im just thinking about open sourcing and releasing ALL of my projects on github or itch for download

[pure jackal]

[hazy sky]

I'm giving this some time to think through, but I feel like it's gonna happen if i don't touch the project

because at that point it's just a waste of potential

[pure jackal]

Touch the project bro

Touch itttttt

[waxen plover]

you make a lot of cool games, you should stick with one

[past flint]

https://real-life-productions.itch.io/forg-night my friend made this cool game so i wanted to show it here and give feedback and maybe share it to anyone and what he should improve?

[lost swallow]

https://www.moddb.com/games/doom-ii/addons/big-johns-love-shack-64
made a DOOM II map about Big John

[past flint]

Nice work man

[lost swallow]

thank

[pure jackal]

Bobby enemy texture is done

[lusty gazelle]

My Jaket mod is fucked up, won't show up any multiplayer lobbies EVEN AFTER 3 HOURS

[pure jackal]

https://bsky.app/profile/mr-meatbox.bsky.social/post/3lyqkc35h2s26

Mr. Meatbox (@mr-meatbox.bsky.social)

With two hands, you can only do so much until you need to put the light down.

Pick and choose your actions carefully when traversing through #TheAbyssalLine

#ScreenshotSaturday #MadewithUnity #IndieDev #SurvivalHorror

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Bluesky · Sep 13, 2025, 7:49 PM

[flat imp]

is this inspired by cry of fear?

[pure jackal]

a little :]

[hazy sky]

yes it is a remake

[flat imp]

cap

[pure jackal]

Lies

[dusky pivot]

Car model/textures I made for videogame

Still have to improve some stuff

[pale raft]

Big fan of the switching sounds

[dusky pivot]

Very good improvements to glass

[hazy sky]

you need to add some foley sounds

you have this nice coat but no sounds with it

[hazy sky]

@pure jackal

the boys are back in town

the HUD is in complete shambles i need to reconstruct the whole thing from page one, however most things are now in working order, the weapon system will get some extra glazing to avoid edge cases, implement proper melee akin to L4D2/CS2 where swings happen in arcs etc, but the system now works as following: there now exists weapon sets, they can be either chapter based or level based. levels can override weapon sets and it's limits as this allows me to make item zoos where i can test shit out. you basically add weapons to slots, and the game is only allowed to ever load weapons and it's ammo from these slots

this also makes development easier because this will later allow me to create custom loadouts or overrides which will help me make adjustments easier down the line

so let's say enemies are supposed to drop slot_1's ammo then i can make it so slot 1 is occupied by pistols, and so ammo distribution will be handled like so, no need to hand pick and program every enemy to drop specific weapons or their ammo

by default each mission allows up to 4 weapons, this is also subject to change so idk man, maybe we'll get 5, or maybe i'll allow 9 but only set 4 or less

[pure jackal]

Noh there will be noh coat foley
The actual flanel coat the textures based off of literally doesn't make enough sound unless I really flail around with it on and it doesn't sound good no matter how many times I tried to capture it

[hazy sky]

okay this is so funny

so by adding in the weapon switching sounds, i revealed an issue at hand that made weapons switch like 55234 times under the hood

becuase the sound was basically killing my ears

so i imported my debug tools from the other project to debunk stuff and turns out, i was correct

so after some hours now i finally can say that the weapon handler system is up to par and allows animation canceling and procedural animations if a gun is missing dedicated animations

and NO @slender knoll you can ABSOLUTELY never switch while reloading to break the revolver anymore, it is NOT possible this time around

[slender knoll]

this looks really good so far

also that sniper scope will never get old 👌

[hazy sky]

the hud is not working yet but i'm working on it

but this code is like, taccos level code so i'm taking my time to tidy shit up because i was so inexperienced while writing it initially that it hurts

[hazy sky]

it allows for different scope reticles 👀

totally not a hint

oh and i also made a pass on the PBR materials so that they look good

even though those are not my textures

also generalized the interact() calls so i don't have to write cases for behavior

because it was awful

i made everything have nodes that said interactible inside the interative object, and checked for doors, mounted nests, objectives etc, now i made a interaction area (the thing i wrote for Vestige) that allows me to just pop the area in and assign an interaction target and calls interact() on them if needed, or just display a message like the locked door message. i needed this because raycast interactions can be weird in godot and i needed a middleman that does the job for me

the area also has a secondary function if i want it to also display a prompt when looking at it, which will be good for prompts

[stiff thorn]

the secret is to use something else that gives the sound you want and maybe even exaggerate it a bit

[hazy sky]

yea because otherwise it kinda feels too empty

you need that satisfying sliding of the clothes

[hazy sky]

age old shit but it's nice to see it again

[hazy sky]

yes purist options will be avaliable

reworked the objectives, now they are handled on a sort of global level so things can actually reference them, and it is overall easier to access, works more reliably etc etc

might also change the bullet trails

noticed they're made out of tubes in medal of honor and i think it does look much nicer

plus bullets travel way faster as well so idk what i was on when i designed the bullets to be so slow

in MOH it took like 2-3 frames for a bullet to reach it's destination to a 10-15 meters length, that's super fast considering my bullets like to take their fucking time on a 60 frames per sec thing

it takes like 3 to 4 physics frames to cover the same area which is like roughly 25% slower on a general basis

i also removed any semblance of multiplayer for now

the most that i'll include for the initial launch is split screen, because it's piss easy to pull off

today was a huge milestone compared to what i had going on for half a year

[stiff thorn]

I love Godot keeping shared resources as a default for animation trees

really enhances my beat 'em up when the guy getting knocked into others suddenly plays a stumbling animation

this shit sucks ass

[pale raft]

life finds a way

[hazy sky]

what

[hazy sky]

bet

actually you know what

since human ai is sort of harder, I'll start with making tanks

or vehicles in general like cars or motorcycles with soldiers in them

or military supply trucks

they generally behave more linearly so it could be a good starting point for both animations AND ai

[waxen plover]

Ai is not really hard tbh

It's justa bunch of coroutines and deltatimes and conditions to do stuff

[stiff thorn]

Yeah, just Godot things

[hazy sky]

i suck at it for whatever reason

[hazy sky]

looked at my old build with the console and this caught me off guard

i don't remember what exactly produced this graceful print

[waxen plover]

seems hard until you realize it isn't any different from coding stuff like the player etc

[hazy sky]

maybe

we'll see

didn't get to model shit for it because my mouse sucks and keeps clicking all faulty

i literally can't navigate the viewport, pan the camera or zoom around, or select verts etc without clicking 4213 times

[waxen plover]

my mouse double clicks, the scroll wheel click is broken and it jitters in the most crucial moments

[hazy sky]

damn

[waxen plover]

you can imagine the dread of having to use the little top right ui to navigate in blender

[hazy sky]

yea i can sadly

yesterday i restructured my entire godot project by an accidental double click and drag

since the files were too much godot just shat itself and crashed

i was filled with joy because i didn't even know what got moved to where

[stiff thorn]

oh yes

immense joy I imagine

[hazy sky]

this happens even without the faulty mouse tbh

[waxen plover]

jumping and clapping his soles together

[hazy sky]

godot has this messy thing where something in the file viewer stays selected even if you search something in the search bar

[stiff thorn]

oh yep

[waxen plover]

i use unity unfortunately

[hazy sky]

and just clicking and dragging anywhere, don't have to even select anything will just drag the previously selected file

anyways

should i make like a vehicle class and use extensions to differentiate tanks and path based vehicles?

or should i just make separate stuff

[stiff thorn]

hate to say this but I dunno

[waxen plover]

wdym

if i were to make a vehicle i just make 1 monobehavior script and make it customizable

[stiff thorn]

tho probably a tank is a type of vehicle and is probs gonna need similar variables and stuff

so yeah a extendable class is what I would start with

[hazy sky]

obviously the tank would try to follow the player, whereas other vehicles might be path based

like a convoy moving from point A to point B

it's gonna be an interesting topic

[waxen plover]

oh you mean ai

[hazy sky]

ya

[stiff thorn]

ah

[hazy sky]

well that too

[waxen plover]

you're gonna have to make a custom navmesh for that

[hazy sky]

this is why i asked, although i think i will add regular vehicles as ai as well like bikes, armored cars or just regular cars with enemies shooting you from it

[waxen plover]

or use no navmesh at all

[hazy sky]

that's alright, the bigger issue is gonna be how to tackle them gameplay-wise

but i digress for now, tanks are more important than bikes

bikes can be a problem for future me

[waxen plover]

hell yeah brother

[hazy sky]

oh yeah i reworked the objective system as well

i no longer rely on groups, i can just assign a nodepath or separate nodes as an array, and groups are fallbacks now

so i can for example make a bucket of objective critical stuff and the system will check for the children within it, and if i feel like that's too tedious i can just add them to the groups

which will come in handy for enemies and the likes

i made a handy little entity spawner that allows me to set player or enemy spawns, and the selected entity will show up neatly in the editor as well

so yea things are busy once again

[hazy sky]

remind me to do an in-depth rework of the recoil system

[hazy sky]

made a whole ass audio player helper function that allows me to play sounds without making dedicated audio streams in each scene for 3432 things

i can paste the audio's file path into the function and it plays the sound

if i give it a coordinate, it will play a 3D spatial version of it

AND, it has pooling

8 sounds for 3D and 8 sounds for global non-spatial

i can also specify buses, random pitch etc

[hazy sky]

holy shit i don't think i've ever cranked the framerate over 60 before

why is it so SMOOOOOOOOOTHHHHHHHHHH

damn thats good

[hazy sky]

i might increase it to like 32 spatial/world audio and leave 8 non-spatial/2D audio players

[pure jackal]

Unending gluttony.

[hazy sky]

now swap the model for the phone

🤤

[pure jackal]

No

[hazy sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431185291831803904/1396859562648272998/WHOTHIS.mp4?ex=68cb6c98&is=68ca1b18&hm=afb2c441427da7e996c260b90366506f2a14888f4d708b0c3b7702214095e038&

[pure jackal]

Yes thats my model

[night roost]

Layer 8 tomorrow guys

[signal lance]

yeah...

tomorrow..

[hazy sky]

its literally your video bruh

[hazy sky]

#ultrakill

[hazy sky]

I was brainstorming all day on a method to offload all of the ammo handling to the game and not have to hand tune everything when designing maps

I made a formula that takes the weapon's max ammo cap, its magazine size and a randomness factor plus a weapon type bias

you roughly get a magazine's worth of ammo plus minus some randomness, so lets say the smg's or ar's have 300 max ammo cap, you'd get around 30 to 60 ammo, while pistols usually equal out to the magazine's size, shotguns are less generous so the math basically gives 4 to 7-8 ammo per pickup etc

plus I made it take the player's current ammo into account so if you're likely to run out, you get 5 to 10% more ammo than usual

I just have to properly implement this

that being said i can still leave some ammo drops on the map if I feel like the player needs some extra, and I can also tie their spawn to difficulty

shit I keep dumping walls of texts here

[stiff thorn]

It's aight, I like reading them

[hazy sky]

sometimes the cogs turn way too fast and I need to write down the memo before I overcomplicate it or forget it altogether

I was also thinking about some branching routes tied to difficulty similar to how timesplitters or goldeneye 64 does it

higher difficulties would have more objectives and some levels could have extra content or paths to take

and also while on the topic of difficulty I think I'd make it limit some of the pickups on the map so the harder the difficulty, the more reactive the enemies are, the more accurate they are, slight damage boost and less ammo and health pickups

[waxen plover]

fuck this i'm switching to godot

unity can kiss my ass

i just found a list of all my projects on unity cloud, uploaded without my permission too???

[spare scarab]

it says whether you project is on the cloud right here

and you can disconnect it by clicking the three dots on the right

[waxen plover]

the fact it's cloud connected by default is shady on it's own

who's to say they won't pull some new licensing shtick again

[hazy sky]

holy fucking shit

now i know the reason why my muzzle flashes were so off

bruh i was calling them in fire_bullet which is fine

except for shotguns

where muzzle flashes were called x times

the only real reason i realized this is because i put the sound into the muzzle flash method as well so the shotguns were eargesplitten loudenboomen

now they sound pretty pleasant for some reasn

this also fixes high RPM stuff

[dusky pivot]

👀

[hazy sky]

left 4 dead

[dusky pivot]

Never played it

[pure jackal]

you should :]

[slate python]

Did you know that they're making a second left 4 dead?

[dusky pivot]

Maybe Ill give it a try :3c

Just kinda busy coding procedural gen..

[hazy sky]

is this tank a good scale or is it too small

[slate python]

huh...

Maybe make it a little bit larger?

Like, right now it looks like something 3 people are able to push over.

Which tank is it based on anyways?

[hazy sky]

idk man

[slate python]

what

[hazy sky]

i guess it's kinda like a panzer III or panzer IV

[slate python]

well I've seen some tanks in my lifetime and your tank (seems pretty light) needs to be a tad bit biiger.

[slate python]

Well here's a photo of one with a person nearby.

[hazy sky]

i think the tower needs to be higher

[slate python]

It needs to be bigger in general.

Its a tank for god's sake.

It's BIG. It's INTIMIDATING.

It's COOL AND AWESOME too.

Take that into account.

Otherwise you'll end up modeling a Volkswagen beetle.

[hazy sky]

it also needs to be able to traverse the city

[hazy sky]

gave the tracks a bit of GIRTH and the tower some HEIGHT

[slate python]

Yeah, take that into account too.

But as you can guess one of the main points of tanks is that they didn't really need roads to traverse cities.

[hazy sky]

ok they do because i aint gonna make them demolish everything thats not road

[slate python]

I don't know what I was trying to prove with this.

[hazy sky]

those cars are SMALL

[hazy sky]

case in point (size appropriate now)

[stiff thorn]

it's average-sized

😄

[tame prawn]

is anyone familiar with javascripttttttt

[pure jackal]

AN ENEMY IS IN THE GAME

🥳

AND IT'S A TAAAAAAAANK

🥳 🥳 🥳

[hazy sky]

wouldn't call it enemy just yet

[pure jackal]

[hazy sky]

i can't even do a simple thing like this properly

[pure jackal]

Can it shoot

[hazy sky]

not yet

i only got down the movement so far and the turret aiming

the barrel still needs to tilt otherwise it just shoots above you

my biggest issue is that it doesn't check for clearance

lil bro tries to squeeze through everywhere

and it has no health either

the bullet mechanics are getting the pass next time i'm on the project

gonna add tags to them like armor piercing, etc so i can safely tag the machine gun and other anti-tank ordnances

[toxic hemlock]

does it know how to make a grilled cheese

[pure jackal]

He knows how to make a pancake

[hazy sky]

you'll be grilled cheese if it rolls over you

[gleaming owl]

tank size is fine just turrent and track proportions little off, looks good

[hazy sky]

wasn't the pz iv actually the german medium tank that's meant for infantry support?

i do think it should be a VERY little taller, considering the player is at a 1.7-1.8~ meter height and the panzer iv was almost 3 meters tall

[hazy sky]

what i mean is that it does not have the crazy wide tracks due to the medium size

[gleaming owl]

yes you are right and model already look fine in game. dont bother with little nitpicks

[hazy sky]

okay it looks comically small like this

[gleaming owl]

there is also the fact that its specific characteristics constantly change according to the battlefield and conditions in which it is in service

[hazy sky]

i think i'll try my hand with using real world photography and reference to texture the model

it it doesn't work then i'll just do a high poly and return to pixel8r

[brave snow]

Hello

Rate?

[pure jackal]

DRILL ARM OUTTA DRILL ARM

👈 👈

[hazy sky]

@pale raft drill arm

you know what that means

[earnest lily]

Yo man you got a dollar?

[pale raft]

BIO SHOCKED

[hazy sky]

holy fucking shit this is starting to feel like progress

sorry for the flickering debug display

[hazy sky]

YESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dusky pivot]

Pretty cool

🐱

[hazy sky]

it can also finally fight back but I forgot to showcase that

the vehicle class is now done. they can patrol, chase it's enemy, engage them (this is different behavior on a per-class basis), it also has signals to emit when destroyed that can be linked up to mission completion or failure (escort or destroy), they can also just drive on a set path as well so yeah

only time will tell how good this will function

the tanks gun is a bit finicky though because it either aims above or below the player and I don't know why the clamping is so aggressive

tomorrow I'll try to create weapon animations finally and create a base animation for every weapon

gonna also retexture the arms and merge the pistol hand model with the two arms and unwrap it so it uses the same texture appropriately

after making the arm armature it's own thing finally, I could just remove the arms themselves from the models and use the guns as the weapon drops themselves finally

it's gonna be so fucking good

finally progress is realizing

thank you @pure jackal for reigniting the flames

[pure jackal]

🫡

[pure jackal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1416916664586600448/1419153282709983333/AmmoUi.mp4?ex=68d0b8fd&is=68cf677d&hm=d950ab920a6abaea09c6322a61ea672d7897f0cbf05bf0a52968b862fedce72c&

[toxic hemlock]

god i fucking love skeuomorphism

that looks so sexy

[pure jackal]

new word learned today!

I just really like the ammo counter from Dead N Furious on the DS >:]

[toxic hemlock]

the best style of ammo counter

taking inspiration from obscure ass DS games like 10 ppl have heard of is likely the most based thing imagineable

[dusky pivot]

World gen fully working now, terrain no longer flat

[hazy sky]

i really had no room to shit on pirate software's code when i had like three different classes for pickups of ammo, health and mission objectives

so anyways i deleted the two other class, made a super class that all of the sub classes can extend from so they share logic

[hazy sky]

and they were really old and deprecated

like directly setting the player's values instead of using the designated helpers etc

now the pickups properly assign themselves to the correct collision layer, with 3 pre-set size variants (small, medium, large) that they can pick from, a mesh so you can assign a mesh if you haven't already, you can also change the mesh on demand so you can finally just separate the weapons and pickups from the actual weapons and pickups and create world models

they can also respawn etc so yeah it's pretty cool

there is also customizability if you enable it in the menu that allows you to use shorter messages (SMG rounds instead of Voll Feuerschutz 42 Rounds, display ammo/health next to the pickup, etc)

[hollow drum]

what

[hazy sky]

fuck yeah

also made the engine generate a missing model with a missing texture as well if something isn't set correctly

that's the armor model

neatly tied these areas to the debug layer so you can toggle it and see the bounding boxes

same with the objective areas and context message areas

[dusky pivot]

Nice raindrop texture

Mines are much more comic looking

When you take ss they look a bit strange xD

[hazy sky]

they look like literal drops

hud is finally in some working order now

but i'll be honest i have no idea where signals come from anymore so i'll have to rewrite the entire process of how the ui interacts with both the player and the weapons

i've been searching for the keyword emit everywhere and i literally can't find where half of these signals are emitting from

[pure jackal]

where's the old ammo counter

it had sovl

where is it

[brave kayak]

is titanfall 2 modding allowed

oh, you need to be actually active in the server to post vids that makes sense actually

[hazy sky]

work in progress

okay this is funny

[pure jackal]

tank column naturally forming

[hazy sky]

alright pathfinding done

[pure jackal]

Nature is healing

[hazy sky]

they check for politeness so if their paths would converge, they pick a random spot to avoid collision (radius is yet to be adjusted)

[vague nova]

gn general modders

[junior bluff]

dude this looks awesome

Holy

[hazy sky]

@pure jackal how does it feel

[pure jackal]

what in particular

[hazy sky]

the whole package

god fucking damn it reminds me of being 9, playing in the snow after school and then coming home and playing medal of honor all night until saturday morning

after i finish up the HUD and work on the weapons to filter out edge cases and add animations (even if placeholder 1 frame ones), i'll go ahead and polish up your animations to ignore root motion and import them as well

[pure jackal]

Its Shaping up so far

feels like MOH but shinier and newer

honestly if you're able to get the prior ammo counter system back in and then texture that tank, it'd make a good "complete" sorta slice of a teaser

[toxic hemlock]

let me fucking know when u get image perms i need more titanfall modding in my life

[dusky pivot]

Looks nice!

[pale raft]

I cried at the end credits when the guy told his squad “this is our legion of honor” I clapped

[hazy sky]

truly one of the dialogs of all time

[hazy sky]

what is the bar on the left

[dusky pivot]

States how good ur picture is going to be

Each object in the camera view gives points

This points variate if u moving zooming etc

The cube gives a million pointd for testing purposes

But in a real scenario, a lot of things have to be fit inside the camera to reach such high numbers

:3

[hazy sky]

reminds me of fatal frame

[waxen plover]

this model will be moving crazy with this game idea i have

[waxen plover]

zesty ass walk

[hazy sky]

somebody suggested i should add the ability for boxes to stay on the floor once broken and man i absolutely agree

the way these boxes work is their collision gets turned off (they no longer process)

i still need to figure out a weapon drop system that uses one single prefab for all of the weapons somehow

boxes would only drop weapons in the box form, enemies should only drop items in weapon form etc

[waxen plover]

the walk animation action just disappeared in blender

nice 👍

[hazy sky]

#ultrakill-modding

[noble nexus]

Mb twin

[waxen plover]

get atomized

[dusky pivot]

Very nice :3c

[hazy sky]

okay this is genius, gonna write a system that basically checks for a breakable objects children, the first one should be the intact model, and then you can litter in variations under it

the system would iterate through the children, collect it into a pool and then pick a random one to show once the object is broken

if the object has only 1 child, remove it after breaking

[polar jasper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802292827341193216/1420324900169715764/Game_Main_011.mp4?ex=68d4fc24&is=68d3aaa4&hm=02279e3f71b33367f9196546d013408b5fbfebc0efbd675ef1b65bc318b35626& enviro break particles

[hazy sky]

things are looking good

very programmable behavior

[hazy sky]

didn't have my plugs on god that metal dinking sucks

[hazy sky]

https://youtu.be/h6KLlb-4j3s?si=0jZUvuSOEzCF3GZC

holy shit

[waxen plover]

begone

[hazy sky]

Chris redfield 1-2 combo finisher

[hazy sky]

did some cleansing on the code, basically turned an all String based dictionary into an enum based one for the ammo pools, shit is at least 6% faster since it doesn't have to check for string stuff

not that it really matters tbh but it does help streamline shit further since the possible ammo types are all held within the ammo manager global, the one that also handles the ammo distribution on pickups

restored 100% basic functionality on the simplified hud and shit like that

oh and added a check for explosions that basically first checks for the health of the object it damages, if it is already dead, don't damage it because that rapid fire dinking of the oil drums were annoying as fuck, but the damage sound is otherwise triggered in the damage method so I had to remedy it like so

also rigged the new arms, but needs some testing AND it also needs some heavy structural reworks since all of the weapons are children of the weapon handler, which is in turn child of the head so I need to either add the arm rig to the weapon handler and basically create an exception when checking for weapons (to avoid adding the arms as a weapon 💀) or I need some clever methods to separate the arm rig from the weapon handler altogether

I mean the animations CAN sync up otherwise but it'd be nice if I didn't have to animate/bake the position into the animation

OR, I could make the arms the weapon handler themselves and just change the rood node

ok enough rambling

[stiff thorn]

ah yes, the "using string almost anywhere for names"

I'm so deep into it that I can't even go back without wasting a lot of time

[hazy sky]

i made a separate method to return the ammo name as a string from a table tho so if i need it for later uses, it's still there

i just won't use it for actual systemic functions or checks, it's merely the name

could be used for the pickups, could be used for HUD elements, etc

[waxen plover]

god i love being extra

[waxen plover]

anyone here know a way to make custom tags to script with in unity

like a custom [Header] etc

reusable

[tranquil oracle]

The term you're looking for is attribute

If you want to use them to control how things display in the inspector, you can use PropertyAttribute & PropertyDrawer

[waxen plover]

yeah mb, gotcha

thanks

[hazy sky]

man unity seems so complicated compared to godot

in Godot you just do @export_subgroup("name of inspector tab") for an openable tab that contains your variables, or @export_group("name") to show a separator tab with a header name instead

[tranquil oracle]

That's how it works in Unity too

Godot uses attributes in the exact same way

[hazy sky]

nice

unity just uses more words in general then

also I wanna make a borderlands-esque randomized weapon generator because it seems like such a fun concept

[tranquil oracle]

[Header("name")] adds a separator

[hazy sky]

fuck that's actually less words

[tranquil oracle]

I don't think there is a built-in attribute for a collapsible group but it would be pretty easy to implement a custom attribute that lets you just do [Foldout("name")]

and I'm sure there's at least 9 million prewritten versions out there

[hazy sky]

maybe

I think you can write extensions in Godot like this too

[stiff thorn]

now remember exported variables that collapse/expand based on other variables' values

suddenly godot hab many word

[dusky pivot]

Mountains

(Most likely will try softer formations)

[waxen plover]

https://tenor.com/view/valheim-server-is-up-gif-20472493

[dusky pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/fly-flying-guy-fly-guy-flying-guy-gif-17076665301995661852

[hazy sky]

objective list was long overdue for a systemic overhaul

instead of 4 nodes per objective, i use 2 now, and there's a word ellipsis if the string would otherwise be too long (unwise i know)

but now the session knows the objectives, and the HUD specifically asks the session about the objectives based on objective ID

if there are no objectives, the list is empty and the top header says "No objectives avaliable." at the top

i still need to create actual visuals for it

[dusky pivot]

I like the font you are using a lot

[hazy sky]

i think it was TypeWrong

made a whole ass godot project that would print out each letter for me as a transparent png and crunched it down for me to be nice and crisp, then I fixed the spacing and the look and here we are

need more fonts tho

also remind me to return to a group based NPC vision and behavior check so I can make ally NPC's

[thorny marsh]

When is jaket getting fixed dawg

[dusky pivot]

The dev works hard on it every day

[graceful forge]

Wait a goddamn minute.
Ain't you the guy who remade animations for Medal of Honor Underground weapons?

[hazy sky]

that's been a good 3-4 years ago if you mean these

idk how i pulled this off anymore, i'm struggling HARD with animations now

[graceful forge]

YEAH

Ngl, that project of yours got me hyped

[hazy sky]

did you see the actual game, or just these animations?

[graceful forge]

Both

[hazy sky]

hell yea

[hazy sky]

added an option into the shader to allow using lower resolution textures

something's VERY wrong with my sten

ok its good now

[earnest lily]

where the enemies at

[hazy sky]

also made the scope overlay it's own thing so any weapon that has the flag to be scoped uses the scope

and the scope properly dictates where the next bullet will go

it's good shit

@slender knoll

also @noble umbra since i remember you asking if the FG42 will be scoped or not, it is now possible

[slender knoll]

👌 real nice

the scope always felt good to use

[hazy sky]

it should also be on the center regardless of resolution

[noble umbra]

Thanks for the feedback!

Glad you went with it.

Steam page when? Pre order when?

XD

[waxen plover]

bouncy sword

[hazy sky]

@slender knoll you have to do the timesplitters 2 window challenge

[slender knoll]

with a brick mind you

man the arcade league and challenge league were a really really simple way to extend the gameplay

like we did that shit with a mate sitting on a couch and changing players between attempts and it was great

[hazy sky]

same

we played that shit for hours

[waxen plover]

fuck i missed the spooktober jam

FUCK man

[hazy sky]

taking the time to reduce the amount of medal of honor textures one by one

i'm pretty happy with this because i pretty much textured this with blender renders and some grunge texture

[hazy sky]

mmmmmmmmmm

[slow willow]

you post all your peak here????

[hazy sky]

yea

[waxen plover]

animations vary on speed

also added rolls when you land while running to keep the momentum

[dusky pivot]

Thats pretty awesome!

[hazy sky]

can you help me rig something

[waxen plover]

Sure

[waxen plover]

man this game had so much potential, too bad i lost the files

[earnest lily]

what was the goal?

it looks REALLY juicy

[hazy sky]

sent dm

[waxen plover]

wandering around a city and putting up posters

i had this cool idea where you can hit people with it and they'd just fall and have a poster on their forehead

[slow willow]

achievement for destroying all the lights in every map

[hazy sky]

fuck it we ball

[waxen plover]

maybe they'd occasionally get angry and chase you

[slow willow]

literally this achievement lmao

[past flint]

I JUST RELEASED MY TRAILER :DDD I'M VERY PASSIVE WITH THIS PROJECT https://youtu.be/sgQ8rLIyB24?si=QEcmQDa42S3XfIuK

[dusky pivot]

Image quality is reduced with mouse or player movement, among many other things that players will encounter during their explorations

[pure jackal]

THERE HE IS HES DOING MY SILLY LITTLE POSE

[hazy sky]

@slow willow meant to ping you with this

[slow willow]

the bideo wont play

[hazy sky]

what

[hazy sky]

how about now

[slow willow]

you beast a 41 mb, downloading that shit so i can watch

mad lad

[slow willow]

dude thats awesomeeee

btw everytime i see that point and click aiming my mind goes into a frenzy

its super smooth

[waxen plover]

demons might whimper

[hazy sky]

I might rewrite it down the line because it directly rotates gun and you can basically rotate the crosshair out of the screen etc etc, I'm gonna make a more mouse based approach that uses the mouse cursor instead and shoots a ray from the screen to get the position the gun needs to look at

[pale raft]

Who up rattlin they box

It looks good

[hazy sky]

gonna rename it back to grease gun because i realized it's not an official designation

[slow willow]

cuz the boz rattles duuuuuuhhhhh

[hazy sky]

da greazer

[hazy sky]

update v0.3.1

• renamed M3G to M3 Grease Gun

thats today's progress

[hazy sky]

today I'm gonna implement sub objectives

[stiff thorn]

Objectives but subbed?

[waxen plover]

literally no clue what to do with this game lmao

this is how far 3am ideas go i guess, might just release a small combat demo

[hazy sky]

as opposed to topped objectives

but nah sub objectives would be objectives not listed in the screen when checking them

like small objectives such as tearing down propaganda posters etc, it's just some extra replay value

[slow willow]

removed herobrine

[stiff thorn]

I see, like the shot lights thing you showed?

[hazy sky]

yeah that too

[hazy sky]

good and bad things

good thing is i can finally attach the gun to the hand

bad thing is i'll literally have to move every recoil based thing down to the weapon manager instead of the guns themselves

[stiff thorn]

fucks up architecture?

[hazy sky]

we'll see

the system was not made with this in mind sadly

[stiff thorn]

oh yeah baby restructuring

gotta love wasting time on it

[hazy sky]

since the weapon is it's own thing and i never really expected to do this, everything was handled by the weapons

but now there's the middleman, the arms

[stiff thorn]

the forbidden middleman

[stiff thorn]

make sure your animation trees don't share each other as resources

[hazy sky]

they are two rigs at the same time, the other one does this because it's A posing

[stiff thorn]

so you don't have 2 enemies activating the same animation because they're referencing one animationtree that's a resource

[hazy sky]

oh yea

i don't really use animation trees

[stiff thorn]

really?

[hazy sky]

yet

i might, i used to

[stiff thorn]

haven't made enemies yet?

it's your best way of having good transitions between anims

[hazy sky]

enemies exist, but the animations are yet to be properly implemented

[stiff thorn]

I see

if you get one that's fully functional do share

[hazy sky]

i will dw

[stiff thorn]

mine theoretically works except one issue I shared a while back

one I'd ignore if it didn't fuck up the core mechanic of the game XD

[hazy sky]

man i need a complete overhaul of EVERYTHING now

[stiff thorn]

relatable

[hazy sky]

because considering everything was dictated by the guns before, now i need a lot of helper functions and transition these to the arms instead

like for example the recoil, i need a helper to return the recoil

[stiff thorn]

I have so much old code and structure that is outdated because I didn't know better

[hazy sky]

yea same actually

[stiff thorn]

I'm at a crossroads rn where it's an issue I'm so clueless on that I might just have to give up that core mechanic

because if not for it then I can finally get started on graphics and have a demo in <= a month

[hazy sky]

fuck

i'm gonna be in big trouble real soon

this is all recoil related, how am i gonna pass these on through the weapon itself in the handler?

[stiff thorn]

aw hell nah

ain't no way you need all those curve types

[hazy sky]

i could compile a dictionary on ready and then just reference it

[hazy sky]

hold on

forgot i can just do this

[stiff thorn]

yep

[hazy sky]

it's actually pretty tame there

[stiff thorn]

fucking pirate software over here

[hazy sky]

you have no idea what i had when i just started out

[hazy sky]

i had no idea you can do var tween_trans : int = 2 as Tween.TransitionType

i actually wrote a fucking transition map

[stiff thorn]

0_0

please no man

[hazy sky]

and a helper function that returned the approriate transition

mind you this was like a year and a half ago

i was still green

[stiff thorn]

I was so happy when I added enemy code and animtree nodes to a seperate enemy and everything worked right out the gate

that's how you know it's modular enough 😄

[stiff thorn]

we still are, probably

[hazy sky]

i don't deny that

but compared to what i knew before, there is a pretty nice progress to competence

although i will now restrain myself and will NOT touch legion unless at least basic animations are done on the arm rigs

[stiff thorn]

we should collab sometime

see how chaotic it would be

[hazy sky]

my biggest downfall is procastination

if i get stuck, i'll just work on something else

like oh wow damn i suck at rigging, i'll polish up the game instead

[stiff thorn]

so true

I feel that deep in my heart

[hazy sky]

oh wow this requires animations, i'll touch up something else in the meantime

[stiff thorn]

but I've gotten better at managing this

[hazy sky]

oh wow everything at this point requires animations, welp better start a new project

idk why animations are such a huge roadblock for me tho

but in essence, the system is FUNCTIONALLY tuned to the two arm rigs method

if i don't setup a rig specifically for the player, it creates one from the base instead

weapons properly get added to the arms, now i need to link up the animation players of the arms and basically hook up the signals and animation names

i'll probably tackle it by adding {weapon_name} + {action} so i can do a stringname lookup and call the proper animation

this way i can minimize the amount i need to fuck around by hand

[stiff thorn]

me when I modded yakuza before making my own game 😄

Yes I'm flexing, apologies

[hazy sky]

so if the animation name is mp40_fire then it can just do weapon name + action

[hazy sky]

oh shit

[stiff thorn]

string name lookup might be kinda iffy

[stiff thorn]

not a hard guess what game I'm making XD

[hazy sky]

when you call animations via code it uses stringnames

like arm_anims.play(stringname)

[stiff thorn]

oh wait yeah

confused it with something else, my bad

[hazy sky]

this will fail for the pistols tho

fuck

change of course

check if weapon type is pistol, if pistol, default weapon name to "pistol_" instead

[stiff thorn]

gng no 🥀

[hazy sky]

it doesn't replace the name

it replaces the weapon name part in the play function

the weapon name will NOT be touched

[stiff thorn]

when you start making specific cases where you don't need it that's when architecture falls apart

granted I might be missing some context but it seems to me there's no reason to make the pistol special

[hazy sky]

like if weapon_type == WeaponType.PISTOL:
anims.play("pistol_" + str(action))
else:
anims.play(weapon_name + str(action))

[hazy sky]

uses a different rig and ALL pistols share animations

all 5 of them, like basically equip/unequip, fire/reload/ and melee

stylistic choice

there won't be any exceptions when it comes to pistols

i might make it so there are two recoil animations, a moderate recoil and a slightly larger one, and make it so if weapon.damage > 12 then play the larger recoil but that's about it

[stiff thorn]

...interesting

[hazy sky]

the pistols use a special rig that has 2 bones plus the weapon bone

this is a direct throwback to Medal of Honor and it's sequel

i will NOT omit this

[stiff thorn]

ok ok I see

if it doesn't change up too much then sure

always gotta look out for that potential technical debt

[hazy sky]

shouldn't cause much of a debt tbh

any pistol type gets defaulted to the pistol animations on the pistol hand

all i need are the animation finished signals to properly hook stuff up

the one real debt i'll have is gonna be during the animation phase

godot uses a different FOV scaling

i think it's vertical while blender is horizontal

[stiff thorn]

o

don't know about that tbh

I did make an fps but that was a while ago and it didn't have guns

[hazy sky]

hey, at least the road is well lit now

[stiff thorn]

it was very wacky and I made some anims before I forgor about it

[hazy sky]

i can link blend files together which will make it so any change i make to the weapons carry over to their own blend files

which is very handy because i can animate and rig the guns WHILE having a clear scale of the arms too

and any animation i create to the weapon carries over to the actual gun rig

meaning i can just animate the arms and weapons, and export separately as animation libraries

now that it finally clicked, it'll be much easier

[stiff thorn]

ah, yeah that sounds good

just be aware that blend files take up a lot more space than necessary

[hazy sky]

i don't really care, the exported GLTF's are not heavy

[stiff thorn]

yeah I was gonna say just export as gltf's

and then link those up

not hard just don't forget about it

[hazy sky]

the weapon bone makes sure the weapon stays attached to the hands

the one thing i'll animate manually are gonna be like the magazines

the child of constraint does not give me keyframes i think

one thing i WANT to do before the animations are textures though

[stiff thorn]

you can bake them

[hazy sky]

i want to texture the arms so i actually have more of a depth and vision to what i'm doing

[hazy sky]

i mean it's good as a starting point

but if it makes a keyframe every frame then i'll have to reduce like 90% of it

[stiff thorn]

nah you bake when you got the final version of the anim

also clean curves option helps with merging/deleting keyframes that are too similar or don't change

[hazy sky]

i see, that's actually good to know

i think i'll start with the FG42's animations since that's been the main thing i always shown off in the videos

[hazy sky]

also holy shit i realized something

didn't godot add spring bones?

[stiff thorn]

did it?

[hazy sky]

https://docs.godotengine.org/en/4.4/classes/class_springbonesimulator3d.html

holy shit physically based bipod physics................

[stiff thorn]

well hey that's neat

[hazy sky]

i'll need to figure out a way to do that

[stiff thorn]

ts about to be fire I already feel it

[hazy sky]

need to check it out

[hazy sky]

i think

not as cool as i thought

i'll animate it by hand

cannot clamp, cannot specify where or how, you can only give it basic vectors and that's about it

its good for hair or booobs but that's about it

[stiff thorn]

can't even give it more elasticity and shii?

that's kinda mid

[hazy sky]

you can, but it looks weird

[pure jackal]

Lucas cooked with the real(fake) lighting

[slow willow]

https://tenor.com/view/yedi-gif-26678532

[slim lance]

@dusk fulcrum, please keep all discussions in English.

[hazy sky]

wasn't Half Life 2's art style defined by the half lambert ambient lighting or whatever

[toxic hemlock]

half-lambert was only applied on specific character models like alyx

[hazy sky]

apparently it was all character models

especially faces

[toxic hemlock]

oh thats cos apparently post-orange box the vertexlitgeneric shader forces half-lambert when phong is enabled

pre-orange box hl2 didnt have phong

also they stopped doing that after portal 2 apparently

there was also no way to disable it until alien swarm

valve moment

[merry lotus]

moonshine grenade

[maiden juniper]

I'm almost certainly wrong but I think the way lighting was handed in that era was using a basic blinn phong lighting + specular multiplied with baked lightmap again I could be very wrong cuz there are like no resources about it

[hazy sky]

they did use phong lighting on specific materials, but I have no idea how level geometry or static meshes were affected

all I know is static meshes were shaded per vertex on older builds

[hazy sky]

man I really fucking hope I don't have to work overtime today because I wanna do the animations

[waxen plover]

get that bread brotha

tis more important than animating,,

[hazy sky]

no!!!!

I genuinely want to improve in the game department in hopes I can make a living out of doing what I love

[pure jackal]

The pain of wanting to further your game as much as possible but also you gotta work a day job

[waxen plover]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

keep working, do game dev on the side

there's no such thing as a full time game dev

unless you're working for a game dev company i mean

[hazy sky]

https://tenor.com/view/come-here-kitty-kitten-cat-cat-meme-gif-9842965060322201652

[hazy sky]

man this fucking SUCKS

i have to basically disassemble my entire systems

[stiff thorn]

yep

gl hf

[hazy sky]

this is gonna take much, MUCH longer than anticipated

the separation and simplification i mean

i basically have to make the gun objects simple data holders with an internal ammo count (magazine) and a method to produce a bullet in the scene

everything else has to go into the weapon manager

reloading, animation handling, calculating the recoil etc

but the weapon handler is already such a long fucking wall of code

i might need to create a middle ground

since I already have an ammo manager that handles adding and deducting ammo, and calculating the amount of ammo the player gets, and the weapon handler is responsible for the inventory, I think it's nigh time to create an animation manager that holds references to the animations and produces tweening of the recoil

[waxen plover]

it doesn't sound like a big deal, just code everything from scratch

i don't know much about godot though so i might be wrong

[hazy sky]

problem is i have most everything in exports

so gun names, values etc are all stored in the editor and the scene file

rewriting from code means i lose most of these and have to redo everything but if all else fails, i'm gonna have to do that

[hazy sky]

also can you help me with finding the automatic keyframe button

like you know, the record icon that makes a keyframe when a change happens

where

[waxen plover]

it's the little dot in the timeline in the normal viewport if you don't find it in the animation tab

remember to disable it when you're not animating

[stiff thorn]

yeah you only find it in timeline

[hazy sky]

found it

thanks

[waxen plover]

there's usually another timeline tab under the action editor thing i think

[stiff thorn]

I recommend switching to the animation tab above

[hazy sky]

been looking for it for two days now

[stiff thorn]

it's amde for it

you got a seperate window that hides bones (lets you see everything more clearer), auto record, and dope sheet all ready

[waxen plover]

google bro 😭

i could never dope sheet

[hazy sky]

huh

hmmmm

[waxen plover]

aw the moderation done got me

curves are for the sick

[stiff thorn]

dope sheet isn't curves

[waxen plover]

i know, i made a joke but the moderation deleted the message

[stiff thorn]

:((

[hazy sky]

holy fucking shit

this almost works actually

except it doesn't call proper weapon functions yet

except of course the fire function

at this point i can start migrating code AWAY from the guns

also yea the aiming is funny

also at this point i have no fucking idea where i'm calling the aiming function from

[waxen plover]

yeehaw

[hazy sky]

mmmmm hurt box

[waxen plover]

the blood splatter is a bit odd atm, i'll probably scale it up for the smaller hits too

[hazy sky]

okay shit's GOOD because i figured out the FOV to godot's camera in blender

i got the pistol anims down

but i still gotta figure out how to loop firing animations

hmmmmmmmmmm

need to migrate the RPM calculation from the guns as well............

shit's a chaos right now, but i'm on the right path

this was also the easiest part since all pistols share the same animations so i could just eyeball it without having the gun be present in blender

i still have to redo the guns to be size appropriate and shit

after that's done, i can just write functions that render the guns as inert, and i can literally create dropped variants based out of the inert gun objects since that was impossible before

the weapons were spagettied together with the player because it was NEVER consiered that the weapons, arm models and everything, would exist without an owner

and since now that's done, i can actually swap out the arms as needed

https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634

man it feels so good, thanks for all the help @waxen plover

[waxen plover]

no problem

[hazy sky]

you mentioned animation trees, i don't suppose I can set those up procedurally eh?

a lot of stuff on my end works procedurally, if I can automate Godot to do it, I will so it'd be cool to have them setup like so

[stiff thorn]

Never tried it but I'm sure you can if you want to, it's all accessible through code I believe

There's different types too so you might want to look into that

[hazy sky]

I saw that there are blend trees and stuff

that's exactly the thing I'm asking for

wait it might not be

might have to set it all up manually after all

[stiff thorn]

It ain't that bad

[hazy sky]

I want randomized fire animations for rapid fire weapons so blend2 or 3 might not be what I need

[stiff thorn]

Fym randomized

Oh I get it

So there's this neat trick where you can use a blend tree, then add the idle and a oneshot

Then you connect an animation node to the oneshot and can change its anim via code (changing the stringname)

Then implement the different string names based on a random number

Boom, pish pash posh ez

[hazy sky]

like 2 or 3 animations

[stiff thorn]

Yeah, I got that, read below

[hazy sky]

okay, is it possible to interrupt animations with an animation tree?

like you see, I don't want the animation to dictate the rate of fire, I have an RPM calculation that properly sets up how often should a weapon fire while the button is held

[stiff thorn]

Yes

[hazy sky]

I cannot just loop through the animation and let it finish, if a gun is mid-fire it needs to cancel out the last one

[stiff thorn]

You call abort on the oneshot and it instantly cancels the anim and goes back to idle

[hazy sky]

I see i see

and does the animation tree have signals for shit like these?

[stiff thorn]

Oh, you want to cancel and run the anim again?

[hazy sky]

yea

[stiff thorn]

Then you dont even need abort, just call it to play the anim again

It'll do just that

[hazy sky]

nice

because normal animation players need to be stopped before calling the same animation again

[stiff thorn]

Ah, you see, I encountered this too. It does not.

There's only the animation finished signal

[hazy sky]

so it uses the animation player's signal

[stiff thorn]

Probably, yeah

[hazy sky]

makes sense

[stiff thorn]

Animation tree doesn't store any anims and data itself, it just runs logic on them

[hazy sky]

I could probably write up my own signals and call them

[stiff thorn]

For that it asks for an animation player as a DB

[hazy sky]

makes sense tbh

it's like an extension in a sense

[stiff thorn]

Yeah, basically

[hazy sky]

alright cool

[stiff thorn]

A very big extension

[hazy sky]

we'll see what it brings

I know the enemies will use the anim tree because fuck all that

but weapons might not need it if not necessary

[stiff thorn]

Yeah it gives very nice blending between idle and other anims

You can control from what point the blending starts

The graph of how it blends

[hazy sky]

the reason I'm not really moved by this is because I handle being idle procedurally with sine waves

[stiff thorn]

Huh

[hazy sky]

smoothly sways in the physics process frames

[stiff thorn]

Ohhh

[hazy sky]

same with the walking animation

well, "animation"

[stiff thorn]

Yeah I get what you're doing

Since I work with 3rd person I haven't really tried this

[hazy sky]

yea it's velocity based and everything

[stiff thorn]

Well yeah, not everything has to be one system

If you ljke it that way with your fps hands, then just keep using that and animation player

[stiff thorn]

I think I remember the animation player having some rudimentary blending as well

It's universal and missing features of blend tree but it's there

[hazy sky]

you can do like a 0-1 float range crossfade

[stiff thorn]

Well there you go

See what works for your system

[hazy sky]

yeah

what's also really nice is that I usually handle recoil procedurally as well

so I'm only animating the base minimum firing anim-wise

[stiff thorn]

You could probs handle shooting procedurally as well

[hazy sky]

how

procedural: the game

in a way I am doing it procedurally tho

there is a barrel node and the gun shoots AWAY from the node

[stiff thorn]

Just tween the gun backwards with randomised end points?

Probs need to adjust stuff but that's the firdt thing that came to mind

Shooting is definitely easy to do procedurally

Now stuff like reload and shii

That's where you give it an anim

[hazy sky]

that's the recoil

[hazy sky]

handled reloading with tweens too

[hazy sky]

I basically have two tweens, a pos and a rot tween, and you can specify in the inspector the recoil values, then the recoil method nicely tweens the gun back and then back to ZERO

[stiff thorn]

So why do you need an anim for it

[hazy sky]

completely optional, animates mechanisms of the guns

[stiff thorn]

Ah

[hazy sky]

bolts, accessories like the dust cover on the grease gun, bipod on the FG42, bolt on the MP40, pump on shotty etc

[stiff thorn]

Ah I see

[hazy sky]

the rest is handled dynamically by the tweeners

even games like titanfall don't bake down recoil animations

[stiff thorn]

Don't know about that so I'll believe you

Anyway sounds like you know the system you want

[hazy sky]

from what i saw in the modded apex client, those guns are animated procedurally

[stiff thorn]

Animationplayer for the hands should be enough for ya

[hazy sky]

and the guns as well, since the arms trigger the firing animations of the guns as well

[stiff thorn]

Yeah I meant the fps viewmodel in general

My bad

Also why tf does this channel have slow down

[hazy sky]

i just need a good method to cache or otherwise store recoil data

[stiff thorn]

What type of data do you need

[hazy sky]

right now i have exported values for XYZ values as floats

[stiff thorn]

You don't wanna store it as a vector3?

[hazy sky]

recoil goes randf(recoil_value_axis, recoil_value_axis * 1.1)

[stiff thorn]

I'd just store it as a vector3

[hazy sky]

problem is the fps arms don't exactly have a real reference to the guns to read this

[hazy sky]

you know what

[stiff thorn]

Ah

[hazy sky]

why am i stupid i used to store it as that as well

[stiff thorn]

Well it's either signals or direct function calling

[stiff thorn]

Hey power in simplicity

Sometimes you just don't think of it

[hazy sky]

i was thinking since the weapon manager has reference, and it calls the function called fire that tells the arms to pass down the fire to the gun as well, it could just take the recoil values and make the mandatory arguments into null if you just call it normally

and then in the recoil method just make it return if the recoil value is Vector3.ZERO

hey that's actually pretty good

i still need to somehow trigger the weapon switching shenanigans, since i use two rigs at the same time, the system needs to know what type of gun is being held and play animations like so

[stiff thorn]

Hm?

Sorry what's the setup here

Why does the weapon not play the anim

[hazy sky]

weapon manager -> fps arms -> guns/items

[stiff thorn]

AH

[hazy sky]

weapon manager holds inventory, calls functions. weapon manager gets input from player to fire -> fps arms trigger recoil if applicable, fps arms pass fire() to weapon as well -> gun animates itself

eg slide racking back, hammer falling, bolt moving etc

gun also spawns bullets and holds reference to sounds etc

[stiff thorn]

Yeah ok I see it

[hazy sky]

ya

[stiff thorn]

I'd also have the weapon manager create and pass down the recoil value

[hazy sky]

and it does

[stiff thorn]

Aight sounds reasonable

[hazy sky]

weapon manager has reference to gun, gun has recoil value stored, weapon manager.fire(current_weapon.recoil_value) -> fps arms.recoil(vector3)

[stiff thorn]

Hm?

Why does the gun need the recoil value if the arms are gonna use it?

[hazy sky]

because you set up the gun-based properties in the gun itself???????

it would make sense that the weapons should store their own recoil values

[stiff thorn]

Gng he's not gonna use it 🥀

[hazy sky]

why would i store recoil in the arms

they're arms, not guns bruh

[stiff thorn]

Fym arma

If the weapon manager calculates the recoil why can't it send it to the arms

Is readability worth the middleman

[hazy sky]

it literally does

that's what i said

player inputs fire() -> weapon_manager sends fire down to arms (and passes down the vector3's from the gun) -> arms tween the recoil based on argument

the gun is stationary in the hand

would be cool if certain exported values only show up with toggles tho

oh shit

[stiff thorn]

I can see the sense in recoil value stores in gun and not manager, but the brain worms tell me "no"