general-modding

[merry lotus]

now to reimplement lightmaps

[hazy sky]

when the skies are stripey and blue,,,,,,

[merry lotus]

just found out i can use bitwise operators in glsl

[hazy sky]

i got a cool lobby system in place

[dusky pivot]

voice acting thing I tried today, I have zero experience on this and Im also not native so yeah

[hazy sky]

the "exotic" accent adds to it tbh

[dusky pivot]

Its Spanish lol

[hazy sky]

ok i cannot figure out why the multiplayer authority isn't set for the second player

@crimson tapir can you help me out?

[crimson tapir]

A bit busy right now, are you using high level multiplayer nodes?

[hazy sky]

using what

i basically have a lobby scene that allows peers to connect

they are kept in a dictionary with peer_id's

and basically i have a start game button that changes a scene, transferring the players to a new scene

from there, i have a multiplayerspawner linked to a node3D in a global script

but the clients just never work

[crimson tapir]

So does the server inputs control the clients?

[hazy sky]

the clients would control themselves

how do you have your multiplayer set up?

because i just realized you literally cannot switch between scenes in godot because it will mess everything up

[merry lotus]

the code for generating luxel_min, luxel_size, and lightmap_size is exactly the same as it is for the OpenTK version but the values aren't correct

[hazy sky]

do the light maps need normalizing

[merry lotus]

no

current code for generating the values / old code for generating the values

i genuinally have no idea what's wrong

[tranquil oracle]

That looks correct to me, maybe the issue is elsewhere

here are some more snippets from the SDK if it helps https://gist.github.com/DaZombieKiller/e0f503be0fcfee6da75bcd335785e38f
the way lightmaps are handled was changed a fair bit, and LuxelScale got removed (there's a "universal" BspLightmapInfo struct now)

[gloomy oxide]

anyon e know how to play multiplayer?

[pale raft]

What game

[dusky pivot]

Tried doing some improvements

Recorded from scratch and changed some lines, also tweaked the EQ for my voice, its should sound much more like an old recording now

[hazy sky]

either add subtitles in game or tweak the filter a little bit because sometimes it can get a bit incomprehensible

more high less lows

[dusky pivot]

There is subtitles

Can you point out what parts are difficult to understand

[hazy sky]

this part for example

also this

either it gets way too crunched or you pronounce it too exotic, or both

or im having a stroke

[dusky pivot]

Well that is just my pronounciation

Subtitles will fix this issue tho

[hazy sky]

aight

[merry lotus]

idk what's going on with the seams

and some faces don't have their lightmaps set properly

but i guess for now it kinda works

so weird

[dusky pivot]

Plazmin did you made the rock textures?

[merry lotus]

no it's an edited texture that I got from ambientcg

[dusky pivot]

Oh wow

That website is really good

Are they free to use?

[merry lotus]

yeah

[azure flume]

missing the part where you knock on the mic and ask 'is this thing on?' in spanish

and cough your voice clear

[dusky pivot]

I will note this down for the next tape

[hazy sky]

or some rustling before you set the recorder onto the desk

[hazy sky]

no way i'll check it out tomorrow

[merry lotus]

i have no idea what's wrong

this is really pissing me off because it's SO CLOSE to being done

[limber bramble]

this seems like one of those issues that ends up being caused by a typo

10 hours of your life wasted because you accidentally typed y instead of an x somewhere

[tranquil oracle]

that's a new one

never seen the map corrupted in that particular way before lmao

[blissful arch]

working on my terminal; it's pretty tough 😬

[merry lotus]

made this out of frustration

the no real world use line is a lie I just didn't know what to put there

[tranquil oracle]

lmao

[azure flume]

Looks accurate

[dusky pivot]

Still prototype but

We made a material that blends textures and Im kinda experimenting here

[dusky pivot]

Here are some extra angles

[hazy sky]

guess it's something

[zenith tree]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-rising-metal-gear-solid-gif-26937748

Is this what you are doing?

[dusky pivot]

Made pine trees, improved texture blend too

Im really happy with how its turning out so far

Tho the trees look a bit strange Idk why

[hazy sky]

fuck now that you've sent this, I gotta make footstep logic for the enemies

[dusky pivot]

https://youtu.be/fTp2A24_bRA

Added stomps, logs and a friend helped us to make vegetaion wavy

Its rlly cool!

[merry lotus]

im gonna have an aneurysm

I had to put a try/catch thing where the game puts the lightmaps into an atlas because otherwise I would get an IndexOutOfRangeException which is why most of the walls are grey

and only half of the lightmaps got generated correctly

at least I'm getting somewhere ig

all of the faces that have correct lightmaps are perfectly square

so I guess that's a hint as to what's wrong

[tranquil oracle]

On the bright side, the actual pixels look correct now

[merry lotus]

i don't know anymore

everything in the code seems to be correct but it still looks like this

[merry lotus]

OK OK I GUESS IT WORKS NOW UM UH

it was the rectangle packing

the library i was using was messing something up

so i had to write my own rectangle packing function

i was extremely doubtful that the library was what was causing it so this genuinally suprised me

[tranquil oracle]

Makes sense, every bit of code you showed me looked correct other than that one column issue so it HAD to be that

Otherwise the universe was simply against you

Rule 1 of fixing bugs: blame everyone else

[merry lotus]

lol

[muted stirrup]

https://x.com/GameDevKS/status/1902309276749602990 👀

KS98 (Retrowave '84/Knife Edge 05 Dev) (@GameDevKS) on X

Reviving those early to mid 2000's vibes...

#indiedev #fps #indiegame

X · Mar 19, 2025, 10:40 AM

[hazy sky]

chat I fucjing hate the idea of having to restart development of my game because of multiplayer,,,

but I want multiplayer

if it means prolonged delay then so be it

[merry lotus]

started working on light styles today

so far I've got multiple lightmaps generating and the first style pulsing

I'm not sure if I'm doing it right though

can't do a screen capture bc I'm at school so I had to take a video of my screen

right now it just adds the lightmaps together because I'm not sure what type of blending to use

[spare scarab]

hell yea

[hazy sky]

question

do you always have to calculate lightmaps?

godot also has a baked lighting functionality but I didn't really bother yet

[azure flume]

scope creep!

[azure flume]

stanleyparablewithguns?

[merry lotus]

what do you mean

[azure flume]

lightmap is basically a texture that has shadows painted on it, so if you change geometry/lights you need to bake it again or it will look wrong. But you dont have to if you dont care about it during testing.

or you can bake it at super low quality so the baking time is minimal

[merry lotus]

lightmaps only have to baked once

and every time you make an edit you have to rebake it

[hazy sky]

I'll look into it when I get home

[dusk wigeon]

cool

[pure jackal]

Please dont bro

[hazy sky]

either I do this now while it's not too late, or I take a buckshot roulette turn where like it takes a year to release an update because of it

[pure jackal]

Look at it this way

Good singleplayer experience, makes bank

Funds an even better multiplayer experience

Or you could go the dusk route and make MP a separate exe

[merry lotus]

just had an idea for how to handle light styles

so for testing I've just been using 4 textures, each one having the specific light model that the face has (since each face can only have 4 lights) and I assumed that later I would have to generate separate textures for each light with a style

so I had this idea:

generate a 5th texture and use the R, G, B, and A channels to point to an index in the brightness array

I don't know if this has been done before or if it's even a good idea at all

[tranquil oracle]

adding is correct

[azure flume]

you'll end up like dusk, dead multiplayer

why do this to yourself

[merry lotus]

IT WORKS!

wow light styles were a lot easier than I thought they would be

I'll share a video when I get home

[tranquil oracle]

Yeah light styles are overall pretty simple, there's just very little information around about how they should work

Literally just "the lightmap offset on a face leads to an array of lightmap textures" and then it all clicks

Some BSP formats support more than 4 light styles and there are BSPX extensions that let you have effectively no limit, which is a bit harder to implement, but the concept remains the same

[hazy sky]

because i have friends

and unlike dusk i will have proper mod support

[pure jackal]

Dude

The fuck man

[limber bramble]

L E G E N D

[limber bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-me-look-me-surprised-hacked-trending-gif-15158347

[soft dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/sockzilla-allosaurhouse-puppet-funny-godzilla-gif-1766658539574916455

[earnest lily]

.

[hazy sky]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-raccoon-trying-his-best-rage-nom-gif-27677916

[earnest lily]

yeahnnno

no.

[merry lotus]

[tranquil oracle]

damn I'm out here catching strays

[hazy sky]

this chat wouldn't know satire if it blasted them across the face with a SHOTGUN

[pure jackal]

I'm gonna assume you mean sarcasm

you gotta be direct that you're being sarcastic in text dude
regardless, it's still uncalled for to throw shade towards the sdk team dude

like jesus dude you can't just say its sarcastic and its magically alright

👎

[soft dragon]

yeah not cool whether it was a joke or not

[merry lotus]

right now the functionality is hardcoded

but i'll get to making work how it should

[tranquil oracle]

I can get the actual patterns for you, sec

    SetLightStyle(0, "m")
    SetLightStyle(1, "mmnmmommommnonmmonqnmmo")
    SetLightStyle(2, "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba")
    SetLightStyle(3, "mmmmmaaaaammmmmaaaaaabcdefgabcdefg")
    SetLightStyle(4, "mamamamamama")
    SetLightStyle(5, "jklmnopqrstuvwxyzyxwvutsrqponmlkj")
    SetLightStyle(6, "nmonqnmomnmomomno")
    SetLightStyle(7, "mmmaaaabcdefgmmmmaaaammmaamm")
    SetLightStyle(8, "mmmaaammmaaammmabcdefaaaammmmabcdefmmmaaaa")
    SetLightStyle(9, "aaaaaaaazzzzzzzz")
    SetLightStyle(10, "mmamammmmammamamaaamammma")
    SetLightStyle(11, "abcdefghijklmnopqrrqponmlkjihgfedcba")
    SetLightStyle(63, "a")

Each letter represents a 0.1 second "frame"

a is 0 brightness, m is full brightness

[merry lotus]

oh ok

[tranquil oracle]

anything after m is overbrightness

[merry lotus]

thanks

[tranquil oracle]

Looks like Half-Life also has a style for index 12

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/halflife/blob/master/dlls/world.cpp#L595

[merry lotus]

how would I go about calculating the values associated with the letters

nevermind i think i got it

[pure jackal]

NICE!!!

[tranquil oracle]

static float DecodeLightValue(char v)
{
    return ((float)v - 'a') / ((float)'m' - 'a');
}

[merry lotus]

thanks 👍

i didn't even know you could use chars like that lol

[tranquil oracle]

Yeah https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/builtin-types/char#conversions

[tranquil oracle]

I guess technically since the cast is implicit it can be simplified to just return ((float)v - 'a') / ('m' - 'a');

Something I want to experiment with adding to the SDK is light style interpolation
Like if the values of two light style "frames" are close enough together, it will smoothly interpolate them

Can't do it for all frames since it'd break flicker lights

[merry lotus]

could you like, take each char, use it as a position, and make a curve out of it

[muted stirrup]

ok so unrelated im in a bit of a conundrum...wood or polymer stock?

[tranquil oracle]

Sorta yeah

[tranquil oracle]

lmao the color balancing on my right monitor is so screwed

those just look like two shotgun silhouettes there

I say wood tho

[muted stirrup]

aye, tbh its purely an aesthetic choice, i also plan to add more detail but im just torn between em

think i need to add some link to to pump mechanism, as well as move it closer to reciever etc

[crimson tapir]

Whoops, fell asleep for 4 days

So basically

I have a "game manager" node that has the game logic scripts and the level is loaded then parented to that node when the player joins

[hazy sky]

I was afraid you would say that

why is Godot multiplayer so bad

[crimson tapir]

Ah, It's not that bad, it's just different

The multiplayer spawned and synchronizer nodes make things a lot easier, but I'd recommend avoiding using them when you can

[hazy sky]

that's great

they cause issues?

[crimson tapir]

There's also a setting you can disable that prevents RPCs from being automatically relayed to all clients, I'd recommend flipping that and having the server manage what gets relayed through code

[crimson tapir]

Not really "issues" more that it can be unperformant if you rely on them too much

You always want to try and send as little data over the network as possible when you can avoid it, and those can introduce some unnecessary overhead

But you still can use them, just don't stick s synchronizer on every object and have it sync everything all the time

[hazy sky]

define underperformant

[crimson tapir]

Sending redundant or unnecessary data over the network

[hazy sky]

I mean, I would probably slap those onto the enemies and players

but tell me, what gets relayed to the clients? like for example, my guns shoot projectiles with varying bullet inaccuracy, do I also need like a synchronizer on the bullets?

[crimson tapir]

If you're wanting to implement any kind of client prediction I'd recommend not using them for synchronizing movement

[hazy sky]

they move through process functions

[crimson tapir]

So in my game weapon behavior is designed to be completely deterministic, so all that needs to be sent is the position, angle, and local tick when the shot is fired than it just gets simulated locally on every client

[crimson tapir]

Make sure to always use physics process for anything networked

[hazy sky]

oh?

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, you can't depend on everyone having the same or constant frame rates

[hazy sky]

I mean yeah that's true

I'm afraid that's gonna fuck my bullets up tho

[crimson tapir]

Also make sure to set up a tick system, just an integr that goes up by one every physics process and gets synchronized every couple seconds to be safe, MASSIVELY helpful to have a "clock" you can usually depend on being the same for everyone

[hazy sky]

should it be a global value?

[crimson tapir]

Oh yeah, just about everything networked needs to know what tick it is

[hazy sky]

aight

what would you recommend using the ticks for?

[crimson tapir]

The usual stuff, like timing fire rates, scheduling synchronized events, keeping track of when an RPC was sent and how old it is (useful for client prediction or sever reconciliation), but you can also use it for other things like deterministic spread for weapons with spread by using the tick as the randomization seed

Like my game has a system where when a projectile is fired, the tick it was fired on is accounted for and the projectile is "scooted" forwards along its path a little for remote clients to be synchronized with the one who fired it

[hazy sky]

okay and actually, how do I even tie functions like this to a tick system?

like I understand the reason of the tick system, I just lack the vision of logic in my lil brain to figure out how to use it

[crimson tapir]

So if you want something to be synchronized across the network like some important map event happening or a crucial pickup respawning you can have the server basically say, "alright, gentlemen, it's tick 210 right now, and at tick 260, 50 from now, we'll all do this thing, got it?"

[hazy sky]

I mean yeah that makes sense

but let's say someone joins in mid game, does that mean their tick starts from 0?

[crimson tapir]

No, the server catches them up

[hazy sky]

aight

[crimson tapir]

That's actually a whole other can of worms, because if someone joins nid match you need to catch them up with everything that's going on

But yeah, the tick should always be the same for everyone connected

[hazy sky]

also question. what is worth keeping in globals?

like I assume globals are replicated for everyone, not sure if that's a good idea

[crimson tapir]

Uhhh, I just have it exported in the game manager script and everything that needs it has a reference to it

I almost never use the actual built in globals

[hazy sky]

FUCK

so how do you keep server rules then like time and point limits, game mode etc?

I mean I could probably keep that in the scene that's always loaded

like a game manager

I gotta research this shit

[crimson tapir]

Those are just game manager things, when a player joins it sends over an RPC detailing the rule set

[hazy sky]

also about RPCs, how do they work?

[crimson tapir]

But that's just for display, it's not like if a client hacks the game to make the time limit infinity it does anything to anyone else because ultimately what the server says goes

[crimson tapir]

RPC means remote process call (,or something like that)

It's a function that when called will be called for someone else over the network

[short torrent]

oh wait you asked how to tie functions to a tick system

idk man

[crimson tapir]

For instance say server calls an RPC with an argument "foo" the clients that are set to receive that call also run the function with the argument "foo"

[crimson tapir]

What was all the terraria stuff for,?

[short torrent]

thought he asked how to craft the terrablade

[crimson tapir]

Reasonable misunderstanding

I made the same mistake last time I got pulled over, turns out he was just asking for my license

[hazy sky]

I'm still hung up on the fact that I have to migrate everything away from the global that I had

[hazy sky]

how

btw I have 1.3k hours in terraria

as in how was that misunderstanding made

[short torrent]

need glasses

[vast yacht]

i want infinite coin throw fast how?

[ashen folio]

Hello

[hazy sky]

#ultrakill #ultrakill-modding

[earnest lily]

I can't really see it... can you rotate the light with L so it reflects on it

[muted stirrup]

yh 2 secs

[spare scarab]

i love the polymer version

[dusky pivot]

Still a bit WIP

[spare scarab]

nice

[merry lotus]

looks cozy

[crimson tapir]

Love the crunchy posterized textures

[merry lotus]

trying to reimplement framebuffers but even though RenderDoc says that the texture is correct and it works with literally every other texture in the game, it's completely black when I bind the framebuffer

[hazy sky]

also do you load levels using multiplayer spawner or do you just call it from code

[merry lotus]

got it working

now i can work on reimplementing ui

[merry lotus]

actually first i'm gonna reimplement particles

[merry lotus]

done

just had to port a bunch of code

[pale raft]

fireblu fountain

[merry lotus]

Quake Maps working

[crimson tapir]

I followed a tutorial for that really early on in the project, I think it just uses a multiplayer spawner

[hazy sky]

mmmm cake maps

[hazy sky]

i see i see, i'll do that

[dusky pivot]

Chimney :3

[hazy sky]

nice smoke

[hazy sky]

i need some good explosion png's

[dusky pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-kitty-komaru-cat-explosion-cat-cat-explosion-gif-4940756872467221811

[uncut remnant]

doom HUD mod I'm working on now has a new death sequence (wip)
(contains flashing lights)

[hazy sky]

"unexpected response obituary" 🗣️ 🔥

i like that you made the dynamic messaging a diegetic element by incorporating it into the visor

[shadow hinge]

Very smooth nice work

[shadow hinge]

Reminded Project Brutality

[crimson tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/nostalgia-critic-doug-walker-explosion-opening-gunshot-gif-26078385

[marble frost]

j

;

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1903408481564049876 boom

KS98 (Retrowave '84/Knife Edge 05 Dev) (@[e-mail])

Combining simplicity and stopping power, how could I not include this classic .45 handgun?
︀︀
︀︀#indiedev #screenshotsaturday #FPS

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[dusky pivot]

☎️

[pure jackal]

WHERE'S THE NEON

[muted stirrup]

different game lol

[hazy sky]

remade the recoil logic so it now shares code with the base

[tight dock]

General modding

[fair sorrel]

IMPOSTER
🔪 🩸 🩸 🩸

[dusky pivot]

https://youtu.be/7AfqXq2LPgg

Made a smol test with audio

[waxen plover]

I love the vibe this gives off

[hasty stag]

yk whay i love

[tight dock]

General modding

[hazy sky]

found this cool snippet of old gun catalogs

should be a cool thing to reference my buy menu off of

[tiny jolt]

Ooh cool

[hazy sky]

so upon some talks yesterday, I decided I'll also start a survival horror project in the downtime when I'm not working on legion of honor

I'll be working on a cool modular camera system, something that was seen in both Silent Hill and Dino Crisis on PS1

so let's say there would be 6 types of cameras, fixed, fixed tracking, following camera, path based camera, third person/overhead with free rotation

and some others that I feel like adding

gonna be designing it to be modular as fuck, with triggers entered by players dictating which camera is active

[pale raft]

‼️

[dusky pivot]

Does anyone know how I could apply a global volume and make the settings apply gradually when the gameobject that contains it is activated?

[mighty lichen]

try doing MathF.Lerp with a AudioListener.volume = Lerpvolume; this changes the audio listeners sensitivity over time. this should work but if it doesnt try looking into releated things like audio mixers maybe. be sure to put the lerp in a coroutine or update cycle. this is for unityEngine.

[stone python]

The Gorillaz I have once returned

Know you so match is à the best of you is the best of the best of

[hazy sky]

question, should the level be semi-open, as in no load screens, or should i have door transmission like in RE or Dino Crisis?

stop

[pale raft]

I would say semi open to keep the tension up

Door opening gives you a quick second to breathe

[hazy sky]

yeah, although i have an idea

semi open

BUT the save rooms have transition animations

[pale raft]

!!

[hazy sky]

so its like a sigh of relief when you can finally rest up and it's a great way to signpost the room's feature

[pale raft]

I like it

[hazy sky]

me when i name the game Dino Conundrum

[pale raft]

Are you going to do a re4 style of inventory

[hazy sky]

i was thinking of it actualyl

actualyl is gonnna be the species name of the dino in the game

[pale raft]

Can you post a picture of Dino

[hazy sky]

but so far the list of ideas is:

• ever changing types of camera ala DC/SH
• tarkov/stalker style inventory
• female lead
• first/third person camera

[hazy sky]

vino crisis

[forest plaza]

what

[hazy sky]

should i add a bleeding mechanic

add like two types of bleeding, mild and severe, mild would probably stop after a certain time has passed and cannot kill you, and severe could actually kill you if untreated

[dusky pivot]

Does anyone know why baking lights in unity makes them 10 times brighter for no reason

[pale raft]

bloodwest-like

[hazy sky]

what is bloodwest

[sharp vortex]

Better indirect lighting or GI calculation p sure

[shadow hinge]

https://youtu.be/fmWjQWR9-Cs?si=w2hqLDUCuH5xmO_4

My doom mod

[dusky pivot]

Will check this out, thanks

Where is this setting located btw

[mighty lichen]

Im pretty sure i would just make a script that finds all light components and dims their indirect lighting value. messing around with the enviroment tab of lighting may help. this is all unityEngine and idk a lot about modding(just a lot of game dev experience). i never ran into this problem suprisingly so im not really the person to ask lol.

[dusky pivot]

Indirect lights are set to 0 I believe

Its very strange, on play mode lights no longer look super brighr after bake

Only duribg editor

But then after building the game it looks bad again??

[mighty lichen]

is a script causing indirect lighting issues or is something realtime?

[dusky pivot]

I dont think so

[mighty lichen]

reflection probes or smth?

[dusky pivot]

Its just default lightpoints with baked rather than realtime

[dusky pivot]

It doesnt make sense because of the inconsistency mentioned before

[mighty lichen]

lighting > Enviroment > Enviroment lighting OR lighting > Enviroment > Envirmoment reflections?

[dusky pivot]

Its set to 0

[hazy sky]

since it's editor only, are you sure it's not the lights applied twice?

you see the actual lights, and the baked lights together?

then again, idk anything about unity or baked lighting

[dusky pivot]

Nop

I tried removing the actual light point

On top of this, it does get fucked up on build too for no reason

Im really confused

[uncut remnant]

update: displays now can glitch if the visor is cracked, with the frequency and length increasing with the number of cracks
also now has (mostly) full support for BDv22
(visor cracks appear when taking more than 20 damage at once; they fade away if you have more than 5 armor, but can still stack if the existing ones haven't been fully "repaired")

[shadow hinge]

Awesome

[hazy sky]

I can imagine a metro type feature where Artyom has to wipe his visor when it fogs up but instead if wiping, you replace it

[mighty lichen]

hello im concious again. anyone need help with unityEngine stuff

[sharp vortex]

Yes make my game for me thanks

[muted stirrup]

https://x.com/GameDevKS/status/1904857304903692386 👀

KS98 (Retrowave '84/Knife Edge 05 Dev) (@GameDevKS) on X

Wonder what the other one percent is... 🤔

#indiegame #indiedev #gamedev

X · Mar 26, 2025, 11:25 AM

[hazy sky]

do you use unreal

[sharp vortex]

Unity

[pure jackal]

Did you get a GALAXIAN³ ARCADE MACHINE?!?!?!

[dusky pivot]

https://youtu.be/xP42oA1YglA

[keen bear]

No, I worked on fixing one of the only three known on earth lol

[pure jackal]

Wow

[waxen plover]

cd album thing

[dusky pivot]

Looks really good :3

[waxen plover]

ty

[dusky pivot]

Did you made the textures?

[waxen plover]

just took pics of a cd album i have

and used shoebox to adjust them

[toxic cave]

mmm corruption

[lapis steppe]

i need a tutorial of how to install the mods on this new version of Ultrakill

[gritty burrow]

Too

[lapis steppe]

someone has one?

[pale raft]

me when reading comprehension

[gritty burrow]

oh

[lapis steppe]

no good english, but thx for the help man. I appreciated

[hazy sky]

I'm sure you can read the games name just fine

[lapis steppe]

i went only for the general haha

sorry dude

[pure jackal]

I wonder if they should change the name to "modding and gamedev" or something

[azure flume]

Rename it to #hackermans

[dusky pivot]

Rework to this panel

This is the old model

[waxen plover]

chat does using mathf.lerp a lot cause lag

[blissful arch]

no

you're just using a + t(b - a)

use a profiler

[waxen plover]

but i'm using the gameobject that the script is attached to as a starting point

meaning the gameobject will never actually reach the destination, the distance just becomes so small it's unnoticeable

[waxen plover]

alright

[blissful arch]

it's one simple calculation, wont matter

[waxen plover]

alright

[merry lotus]

I got debug shapes and raycasting working today

gonna try adding enemy navigation

[merry lotus]

from the looks of it, finding paths and navigating seems easy, I just gotta use the A* algorithm

actually GENERATING the navmesh and finding which triangles are next to each other are something I still need to figure out

[unique trellis]

d

[hazy sky]

d

[atomic zealot]

d

[tranquil oracle]

Interested in how you ultimately go about solving this, generating a decent navmesh from the BSP is a problem I've yet to fully solve

[merry lotus]

got navmeshes generating and sharing indices between triangles

i'm trusting that the code i wrote to find triangle neighbors works because i'm gonna try implementing pathfinding now

i'll add stuff like turning stairs into slopes and padding later

[merry lotus]

added a function to find the nearest triangle in the navmesh

it might be hard to see because the lines are so thin

just added triangle neighbor detection

now to add A*

[earnest lily]

[merry lotus]

right now i'm just using the midpoints of the triangles for finding which point to place on the path which is also messing with the cost of triangles

but other than that IT WORKS!!!!

and it's pretty fast too

[hollow barn]

g#

[merry lotus]

need to implement the funnel algorithm

[limber bramble]

Did you write the A* algorithm yourself or use a library for it

[merry lotus]

wrote it myself

the algorithm itself is pretty simple

learned a lot from this video by sebastian lague
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L-WgKMFuhE

[limber bramble]

hell yeah

it's definitely something that seems more complex than it actually is. still took me a while to fully wrap my brain around it the first time I tried implementing it

[hazy sky]

this might be too simple

[spare scarab]

oh hell yes, badass

[earnest lily]

Compressed this down below 50mb

New kick combos, spawn animations, bunch of new shit

[hazy sky]

thinking about making the stock a 2D alpha cutout thing instead

[hazy sky]

now make them attack all at once

[merry lotus]

IT'S ALIVE

still need to implement the funnel algorithm but this is still cool

[limber bramble]

Getting ever closer to being playable.....

[merry lotus]

soon.........

[dusky pivot]

I got an ancient build of the game

[hazy sky]

audio sucks,,,,,

but i dig the overall feel

i'll texture it tomorrow

[hazy sky]

let me see if i have ancient build,,

the old demo that was still in the process of being medal of honor

[dusky pivot]

waow

My old build doesnt even have sounds or anything

You can just walk around

[hazy sky]

its not such a big feat, everything here is actually driven by animation players and there is simply just very little code

it was 2 years ago and this is the very first iteration on the project

this is restart 2, it's better, but not as refined as the restart 3 (current) build

[stiff thorn]

oh yeah, God Hand style

[hazy sky]

tbh god hand only allowed the enemies to all attack at once if you reached LV3 or DIE

[stiff thorn]

yeah true, they're kinda chill at lower lvls

[hazy sky]

LV1 too easy, LV2 good, LV3 fuck too hard go back

[stiff thorn]

I forgot about that because of dynamic difficulty

I can never get the game to let me play on anything lower than level die unless I let myself get hit

[hazy sky]

LV DIE basically allows the enemies to chain up their combos and interact with each other

like literally tag team combos and special attacks

[stiff thorn]

yeah, and the most impressive thing about it all is that they can all attack at the same time, combo and chain up and it still feels fair

specifically because of how free you are to cancel almost anything

[hazy sky]

no it really doesn't feel fair but that doesn't matter because the core loop is satisfying once you finally progress

[stiff thorn]

hard disagree

[hazy sky]

i would post videos of me getting my ass kicked in but this isn't the channel

[stiff thorn]

you can dodge anything if you have the foresight and reaction time

there's like 5% of attacks in the entire game that are bullshit

which is pretty good all things considered

[hazy sky]

yea ok but i ain't spiderman i cannot always look at the minimap and also check if the enemy is blocking, or doing a low or high attack

[stiff thorn]

if you're good you barely look at the minimap

[hazy sky]

or check if my attack will interrupt instead of getting me killed because the enemy started his attack first (all 5 of them at once)

[stiff thorn]

but that's the great thing about it

unlike most other games, if you see your attack will not hit first, you can still dodge mid attack

[hazy sky]

but yea LV DIE basically removes every restriction the devs put in for the enemies so it's cool

[stiff thorn]

if you see that your attack is gonna get interrupted by a third guy, you can still dodge it

[hazy sky]

well yeah but there are attacks that you cannot interrupt

[stiff thorn]

yeah and in return they do a lot more dmg

[hazy sky]

most of the launches actually cannot be interrupted

[stiff thorn]

yeah because they give you a free AOE attack

but if you are good at countering, you can just use the uppercut launcher that IS interuptable

[stone python]

Hi

[hazy sky]

this is gonna suck

[west haven]

why are u posting in every channel

ur gonna get muted if u dont stay on topic to the channel ur in

?

[hazy sky]

tfw ultrakill mod has to kill someone in the non ultrakill channel

a bit too fast innit

also i'm fucking stupid because i exported the texture at 256 but designed it at 512

staying this way i guess

[hazy sky]

@pale raft look at my son

[pale raft]

massive

[pale raft]

@hazy sky gulp

[hazy sky]

need to fix the broken shit then i could release another small snippet with the zombies included

[pale raft]

also what

ive never seen this weapon before in it

[hazy sky]

it KINDA works

problem is how it also collides with the player and pushes you around

[hazy sky]

good thing you reminded me

i completely broke the sprite weapons as well

[pale raft]

and i think something happened with the revolver

it will not change weapons with the scroll wheel when its out

[hazy sky]

i think you swapped away from it while reloading

this is also fixed in the new version

[pale raft]

‼️

[hollow violet]

what are the differences between r2modman and thunderstore?

[waxen plover]

there's like 2 unity urp shadergraph tutorials on google

the resources are so scarce

[junior bluff]

idrk if this should be in #ultrakill-modding because this is made in a whole different engine and is not a mod but ffunny game dev moment

[hazy sky]

I think they're the same thing? at least last time I checked, thunderstore came with r2 modmanager

but I like r2 better

[pseudo solar]

I am trying mod UMVC 3 community edition keeps give me this errors

does anyone know how to fix this

[azure flume]

why is the file extension ".tex 2" ?

seems odd

[pseudo solar]

is that problem

[earnest lily]

probably native format

[pseudo solar]

what does that mean

[muted stirrup]

https://x.com/GameDevKS/status/1906656168639885630

KS98 (Retrowave '84/Knife Edge 05 Dev) (@GameDevKS) on X

Boomsticks be locked and loaded...

#indiedev #fps #IndieGameDev

X · Mar 31, 2025, 10:33 AM

[pseudo solar]

What do I have to do

[earnest lily]

Bro chill. You're in the wrong place to ask too. You should go ask where you got the mods from

[pseudo solar]

I got from this https://www.nexusmods.com/ultimatemarvelvscapcom3/mods/286

[waxen plover]

1 pond fis

[waxen plover]

these graphics look tasty

[azure flume]

More like 50MB

[toxic hemlock]

me talking abt titanfall

[toxic hemlock]

why do u need sprite weapons btw arent all of medal of honor's weapons 3d anyway

[hazy sky]

I like them, and i want to support modding

the simple structure allows for custom stuff so if you wanna create custom campaigns then you can, custom weapons and everything

[toxic hemlock]

ur making excuses so u dont have to add enemies

[hazy sky]

I have enemies, I am struggling with the animations now

also sprite weapons were always a thing in my system, I just made a major rewrite and simplification to the base weapon structure and broke sprites as a consequence

btw @pure jackal i still have no idea why the weapon bone fucks up I've spent like 2 days trying different methods and even asked left and right on the godot server and yeah

I also tried setting the weapon a child of the hand bone in editor, but that also doesn't work as intended because it stretches the weapon all over

[uncut agate]

jesus

[pure jackal]

FLINTINSTEAL

[uncut agate]

i really wanted to add him into lethal company but then i realized that that is not my specialty

[uncut remnant]

startup sequence on new game (death sequence is going to be redone in this style too)

[shadow hinge]

Awesome 🔥

[solemn estuary]

I've been working on a Gloomwood fan game inspired by Darkwood for some time now

[pure jackal]

I have done my part

[untold dome]

Yooo looks sick

[stiff thorn]

yooo, a darkwood mod? AND it's gloomwod? sign me up tf up!

[hazy sky]

BLJ

[uncut remnant]

as promised, here it is
now it’s even more of a blatant knockoff of ultrakill

[hazy sky]

how is that a knockoff of ultrakill

this is fucking amazing meanwhile ultrakill is like lole u suck press e to restart

[spare scarab]

the death screen for ultrakill has been updated last patch

[dusky pivot]

Does anyone know why the "soft particles" setting does not work?

Im using URP and yes, I do have depth texture enabled

[hazy sky]

no way

did it get remastered

[merry lotus]

yeah

the ultra_revamp update released a couple of weeks ago

pretty much every part of the game got updated

[hazy sky]

not gonna replay it

can't make me

[dusky pivot]

Endless war against unity is done

Fog is completed, lfg

[jagged harness]

anyone play grezzo?

[waxen plover]

this looks super cool

[dusky pivot]

Thanks

[dusky pivot]

https://youtu.be/wrmuUudq_Dg

Lots of upgrades to ambience :3

[muted stirrup]

https://youtu.be/S3lcbSkPAZM decided to tweak some of these sounds 👀

[hazy sky]

can you make it so the guns fire independently?

[muted stirrup]

Nope, but that is a design choice, basically double damage, since some have alt fires etc

hopefully gonna get some animations in given they be good to see in slowmo and just help with polish

[waxen plover]

found this cool model i made in 2023

hands sucked though

[dusky pivot]

Just some cool random leaks

[merry lotus]

reworked navigation so that instead of using triangles as nodes, it uses the vertices as nodes and uses the triangles to find out which nodes to use
still need to implement the funnel algorithm because i don't completely understand it yet
and i also gotta figure out how to turn stairs into slopes

https://youtu.be/ilWPCT5Mu9c

[dusky pivot]

Thats really cool :3

[leaden sail]

hey does anyone have trouble with the half life maps? they have no enemies in most, and are named random series of letters and numbers

actually most of my mod maps not only do not have enemies but also show up in custom campaign levels and not enddless. am i doing something silly

[plucky beacon]

:(

[sharp vortex]

Im assuming this is Dusk?
If so #dusk-modding but also I think you're experiencing two things:

-The HL1 maps loaded into Dusk just replace enemies and NPCs, it doesn't add more than were already there, and HL1 isn't so densely packed with enemies

-The HL1 maps being random letters and numbers is normal. That's how they're named in the original game. Something like C1A0 is like Chapter 1, section A, map 0, etc. I'm a bit off on that but that's the general idea

[earnest lily]

Weekend plans

[hazy sky]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/free-kit-for-the-game-dev-team-5ea9352567e14a518eb07b741dd8ee88

holy shit chat all these WW2 stuff for free

i might borrow a few stuff from it with credits

[leaden sail]

oh my bad wrong channel, thanks! one more question and ill be off, are those maps just like proof of concept? with only a few enemies, and some maps just like, being a room, its hard to imagine playing those maps in order or at all tbh

[plucky beacon]

Wow

[shadow hinge]

https://youtu.be/jmNtyNFFM_A?si=riytynjpVgCuXY0i

[merry lotus]

got FMOD working

[desert shard]

Here's what I have so far for Ludum Dare 57

No idea if I'll finish, but let's see

[earnest lily]

He's back

[uncut remnant]

hud sways around as you move and turn
the number of parenthesis in the code for this is staggering

[feral ermine]

Looks really good, the whole thing is coming together great

[feral ermine]

love the atmosphere, cant wait to see the whole thing

Spent a while bugfixing and adding toolbox violence to the game
Finally making the last area I need, blendering it all as practise to move away from using blockout

[dusky pivot]

Wow

That is really really good

[shadow hinge]

What the weapon pack?

[hazy sky]

I should start blocking out the levels as well

[uncut remnant]

not public, with no intention of making it so
it’s basically just Smooth Doom but it uses Brutal Doom v22’s weapon sprites and animations on vanilla-style hands

[desert shard]

Finished my Ludum Dare 57 game lol

https://badpiggy.itch.io/faith-e-vator

[pure jackal]

Redid the phone and cricket bat animations with the new arm model, rig, and bounding assistance by @rotund garden (love u bud)

Like seriously fellas this woulda been a nightmare without his expertise

[merry lotus]

I can't believe there's no online resources for sphere / box casting using a BSP tree

I found this one GitHub repo with a file that had sphere / box casting for quake 3 but it uses brushes and I want to try to implement it without brushes so that you don't have to rebuild maps that don't have brushes

[hazy sky]

can someone lend me their unused energy so i can be more active

[hoary steppe]

Hey uhhh, can I talk to a mod in private

Really serious shit

Oh wait this is not the mod channel

[dusky pivot]

Progress

Just got done with texture painting stuff and added some trees in the bg lol

[tranquil oracle]

A BSP tree doesn't have "volumes", it's just a series of splitting planes, so you can't really do an arbitrary box/sphere/etc cast within it (this is why Quake 1 has "clip node" trees, which are the BSP tree scaled appropriately so that a raycast within that tree is equivalent to a box cast of some predefined size, such as the player's dimensions)

That's also why Quake 2 and later retain the brushes in the file

Your best bet for doing physics queries on a BSP tree is to synthesize brushes from it (which is what I do in the SDK). You basically walk the BSP tree, remembering the planes that split the nodes as you traverse, until you hit a leaf. Once you hit a leaf, you create a cube large enough to cover the entire map, and use the planes you collected to "carve" the cube into the shape of the leaf

Relevant code, if my explanation was confusing: https://gist.github.com/DaZombieKiller/d6e3e157d7499509f088dfd2a0c1b34f

[plucky beacon]

whats general

[azure flume]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1741120/Fantasy_General/

Steam

Fantasy General

Fantasy General includes the "Island Challenge" add-on.

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[hazy sky]

we are modding general

[plucky beacon]

can i join

that sounds fun

[azure flume]

We control the current name of #bnnuy-and-the-jits

[plucky beacon]

w so we raiding them?

[muted stirrup]

https://vxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1910009510820827422 💥

KS98 (Retrowave '84/Knife Edge 05 Dev) (@[e-mail])

When you need hard hitting auto-loading handguns, could you really use anything more iconic as these?

#IndieGameDev #FPS #KnifeEdge05 https://t.co/6ksmzrIiUE

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[dusky pivot]

This was painful but I got all this in one sitting

Hurray

[plucky beacon]

W

[mint shard]

dead chat?

[waxen plover]

el ratito

[feral ermine]

hell yeah

[pure jackal]

Squeekums :]

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1910635679803187357 bike go vroom

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[merry lotus]

i've been trying to implement this for the past few days and the brushes come out looking like this

i'm not sure if it's something to do with how i have ClampToBounds set up or if i'm missing a step

https://gist.github.com/PlazminDev/f462bc500d6652fa336e68705dd6d5df

made a gist of everything i have so far

i have no idea what i did wrong

[tranquil oracle]

You will end up with a bunch of huge brushes outside the map yeah

But the ones inside the map should still be accurate

[merry lotus]

some of them are clipping through the map

[tranquil oracle]

oh okay yeah that definitely looks off

What if you change existing.D = MathF.Max(existing.D, plane.D); to existing.D = MathF.Min(existing.D, plane.D);

Not sure what plane equation you're using

[merry lotus]

there's no brushes generating at all now

[tranquil oracle]

Looks like System.Numerics.Plane is Ax+By+Cz+D=0 so Max should be correct nvm

It might be ClampToBounds, that one is based on Unity's coordinate system so if yours differs that will need changes

Since from the screenshot it does sort of look like stuff isn't being clipped properly

though it could also be IntersectPlanes/GenVertices

[merry lotus]

do i have to call ClampToBounds a second time at some point
because the code outside of the if statement doesn't get called

[merry lotus]

nah i've used that code since the java iteration and it's worked fine

[tranquil oracle]

ClampToBounds gets called once on init, where it receives the model bounds

Hmm. Do you account for the bounding boxes in BSP models being shrunk by 1 unit?

[merry lotus]

yeah

[tranquil oracle]

Ok so it wouldn't be that either...

[tranquil oracle]

The brushes do seem to "cut off" at the map bounds so yeah ClampToBounds should be correct at least

GenVertices does seem a little odd to me, but I'm not 100% sure

The brushes you get with this technique are very finicky so even the slightest error that normally wouldn't be triggered by normal brushes can break things

/// <summary>Computes the intersection point of three planes.</summary>
public static bool Intersect(this Plane p1, Plane p2, Plane p3, float epsilon, out Vector3 point)
{
    var a = Vector3.Cross(p2.normal, p3.normal) * p1.distance;
    var b = Vector3.Cross(p3.normal, p1.normal) * p2.distance;
    var c = Vector3.Cross(p1.normal, p2.normal) * p3.distance;
    var q = Vector3.Dot(p1.normal, Vector3.Cross(p2.normal, p3.normal));

    if (MathF.Abs(q) <= epsilon)
    {
        point = Vector3.zero;
        return false;
    }

    point = (-a - b - c) / q;
    return true;
}

that's the plane intersection impl from the SDK

and point computation: https://gist.github.com/DaZombieKiller/765b8c5fc421161a0485a01a6afbaa65

none of this code is actually used (the SDK creates a polygon and clips it instead) but I know it at least works

You can ignore the Translate/SharedPoint stuff

But yeah my gut says it's either IntersectPlanes or GenVertices

[merry lotus]

it's doing this now

[tranquil oracle]

wtf lol

can you send the bsp? I'll see what the SDK produces for that

[tranquil oracle]

seems fine

hmm

oh huh

I copied your PointInHull code and now it breaks

It seemed fine to me at a glance though... so it's something subtle

https://gist.github.com/DaZombieKiller/5fc477166560403516969cc207a4aae6 SDK's version

the equivalent of GetDistanceToPoint is DotCoordinate on System.Numerics.Plane

So I guess PointInHull was reporting the wrong results which was clipping off all of your points

[merry lotus]

i replaced it with the SDK function but no points were generating at all

but i removed the check entirely and this generated

[tranquil oracle]

I get this if I ignore that check

which is expected, since that check is only meant to trim off "degenerate" points

vs with the check

I wonder what could be causing the behavior you're seeing... that's so strange

So that's with the same point in hull check, the same plane intersection check, the same point generation code?

And all planes/points/etc are converted from quake into your game's coordinate system as well, right?

[merry lotus]

yeah

[tranquil oracle]

hmm, ClampToBounds does actually look like it has a bug

It's using different values in each block

span[0] = new Plane(Vector3.UnitX, bounds.Max.X);
vs
AddPlane(new Plane(Vector3.UnitX, -bounds.Max.X));

[merry lotus]

that's what it was in the gist you shared

OH

[tranquil oracle]

They're the same in mine

I just set span[5] first as a bounds check optimization

[merry lotus]

well the AddPlane calls never get called

afaik only the code in the if statement gets called since it's only called once

[tranquil oracle]

the AddPlane ones seem to be correct

Assuming in your coordinate system:
+X = right
+Y = up
+Z = forward

[merry lotus]

-Z is forward

opengl is weird like that

[tranquil oracle]

-Z yeah nvm

but span[0] def seems off

as does span[1]

span[0] = new Plane(Vector3.UnitX, -bounds.Max.X);
span[1] = new Plane(-Vector3.UnitX, bounds.Min.X);
span[2] = new Plane(Vector3.UnitY, bounds.Max.Y);
span[3] = new Plane(-Vector3.UnitY, -bounds.Min.Y);
span[4] = new Plane(Vector3.UnitZ, bounds.Max.Z);
span[5] = new Plane(-Vector3.UnitZ, -bounds.Min.Z);

that should be it I think

or

span[0] = new Plane(Vector3.UnitX, -bounds.Max.X);
span[1] = new Plane(-Vector3.UnitX, bounds.Min.X);
span[2] = new Plane(Vector3.UnitY, bounds.Max.Y);
span[3] = new Plane(-Vector3.UnitY, -bounds.Min.Y);
span[4] = new Plane(Vector3.UnitZ, bounds.Min.Z);
span[5] = new Plane(-Vector3.UnitZ, -bounds.Max.Z);

[merry lotus]

neither seem to work

i don't even know anymore

[tranquil oracle]

It's weird that you're only seeing cuboid shapes

I don't see any bevels

[merry lotus]

i'm just drawing the AABBs

and the vertices generated by the brushes

[tranquil oracle]

It's weird that you have points so far outside of the map bounds

Those should be clipped away by ClampToBounds

[merry lotus]

i think i got it working

it's just upside down for some reason

idk if it's a plane problem or a clamptobounds problem

[tranquil oracle]

I would assume plane

What if you swap the planes you use

[merry lotus]

but yeah i had to change MathF.Max(existing.D, plane.D); to MathF.Min(existing.D, plane.D);

[tranquil oracle]

i.e. use .Flipped() for back instead of front

[tranquil oracle]

What do you use to convert planes into your coordinate system?

/// <summary>The inverse of <see cref="ScaleFactor"/>.</summary>
public const float InverseScaleFactor = 32f;

/// <summary>The scaling factor to use when converting from Quake coordinates to Unity coordinates.</summary>
public const float ScaleFactor = 1 / InverseScaleFactor;

/// <summary>Converts a distance value from the Quake coordinate system to the Unity coordinate system.</summary>
public static float DistanceFromQuake(float distance) => distance * ScaleFactor;

/// <summary>Converts a direction vector from the Quake coordinate system to the Unity coordinate system.</summary>
public static Vector3 DirectionFromQuake(Vector3 position) => new(-position.y, position.z, position.x);

/// <summary>Converts a plane from the Quake coordinate system to the Unity coordinate system.</summary>
public static Plane PlaneFromQuake(Plane plane)
{
    // The representation of a plane differs between Quake and Unity:
    //
    //  Unity: Ax + By + Cz + D = 0
    //  Quake: Ax + By + Cz - D = 0
    //
    // Luckily, converting between the two representations is as easy
    // as flipping the sign of the distance value.
    //
    // The normal vector also needs to be adjusted for the coordinate
    // system difference.
    //
    plane.normal = DirectionFromQuake(plane.normal);
    plane.distance = DistanceFromQuake(-plane.distance);
    return plane;
}

for reference

[merry lotus]

i swap the axis using this function

    public static Vector3 BSPAxisSwap(this Vector3 v)
    {
        return new Vector3(-v.X, v.Z, v.Y);
    }

and scale the distance by 1f / 32f

[tranquil oracle]

Ah yeah that'd be why

you also need to negate the distance

[merry lotus]

oh

[tranquil oracle]

The comment in my PlaneFromQuake function explains why

(The System.Numerics Plane has the same representation as Unity)

don't you just love math

I'm surprised it didn't break on regular brush planes, I guess that's in part because of PointInHull being slightly off?

But then you'd also expect the brushes themselves to be offset or flipped like you saw just above

I'm just not gonna think about it, I spent long enough trying to wrap my head around everything already to get the code I have now

[merry lotus]

ok i got it working but only by negating the plane normal instead of the distance

[tranquil oracle]

If you have to negate the normal that implies something else being wrong

Since the only transformation that should be necessary is to swap the axes of the normal, and then flip+scale the distance

[tranquil oracle]

Your coordinate system is:

+X = right
+Y = up
+Z = back

right?

[merry lotus]

yeah

[tranquil oracle]

Then BSPAxisSwap should be: -y, z, -x

Since Quake is:

+X = forward
+Y = left
+Z = up```

so given a quake plane x, y, z, d, to transform it into yours, it'd be -y, z, -x, -d / 32

[merry lotus]

ok

[tranquil oracle]

The BSPAxisSwap function above converts into this coordinate system:

+X = backward
+Y = up
+Z = left

which might explain why the brushes were upside down I guess?

[merry lotus]

changed it and

[tranquil oracle]

did you revert the min/max change for the plane distance?

[merry lotus]

yeah

[tranquil oracle]

hmm

that at least seems... better?

like if you look at the stairs you can see the points

[merry lotus]

yeah i guess

[tranquil oracle]

points all the way out here is weird though

The map bounds don't extend that far so ClampToBounds should make it literally impossible for those points to exist

Like even if other stuff is wrong, ClampToBounds should ensure you never have anything outside of that bounds

Do you have different coordinate conversion functions for the actual level geometry?

[merry lotus]

no just BSPAxisSwap

[tranquil oracle]

Maybe there's an inconsistency?

Huh, I'm surprised the level geometry wasn't wrong before then

Oh, how do you convert the bounding boxes?

Just converting the min/max points like normal points unfortunately is not enough

[merry lotus]

i don't do it in a very good way

    public AABB QuakeToDefault()
    {
        Vector3 corner0 = Min;
        Vector3 corner1 = Max;

        Vector3[] corners =
        [
            corner0,
            corner1,
            new Vector3(corner1.X, corner0.Y, corner0.Z),
            new Vector3(corner0.X, corner1.Y, corner0.Z),
            new Vector3(corner0.X, corner0.Y, corner1.Z),
            new Vector3(corner0.X, corner1.Y, corner1.Z),
            new Vector3(corner1.X, corner0.Y, corner1.Z),
            new Vector3(corner1.X, corner1.Y, corner0.Z),
        ];

        for (int i = 0; i < 8; i++)
        {
            corners[i] = corners[i].BSPAxisSwap();
        }

        return new AABB(corners);
    }

it's been this way since the java iteration and i haven't been sure how to fix it

[tranquil oracle]

var min = SwapAxis(Min) / 32f;
var max = SwapAxis(Max) / 32f;
return new AABB(Vector3.Min(min, max), Vector3.Max(min, max));

that's the quick and dirty way

[haughty crane]

HI

[muted stirrup]

https://youtu.be/XkBEjNSQI_g?feature=shared berettas are in...

[merry lotus]

this is pissing me off so much because IT WORKS it just doesn't work when i reverse the values to make all the points be in the right place

honestly i'm just considering flipping the normals of all the planes after the brushes are done generating

it's not good but it fixes it

but i'm so close.................. i just gotta edit the code a couple more times.....................

there's gotta be something i'm missing

that i have to negate

[tranquil oracle]

This is giving me PTSD from when I was first doing this myself

It's always the most subtle mistake that causes hours of painful debugging

Hmm actually, reading the docs for Plane in .NET, it looks like it actually might be Ax+By+Cz-D=0, so you don't negate the distance when converting planes, and the min/max change should be correct @merry lotus

The docs say the distance is from origin->plane and not plane->origin, which means it's Ax+By+Cz-D=0

Unless I'm just interpreting the docs wrong, it unfortunately does not explicitly state which representation it uses

[merry lotus]

wait then why is it inverted

the normals can't be wrong because when implementing RecursiveTrace they were correct

[tranquil oracle]

Ok I checked the actual implementation of Plane, disregard

It is Ax+By+Cz+D=0 as I previously thought

[merry lotus]

you know what i'm just gonna take the easy route and just flip the plane normals for now

because i have no idea what's wrong

[tranquil oracle]

That's probably the easiest solution for now yeah

It's not the worst thing in the world because even though there is a bug somewhere you still technically get the right result

[merry lotus]

alright

thanks for all your help zombie

[tranquil oracle]

np

[earnest lily]

I have been busy

[pine gorge]

That feels great!

[earnest lily]

thank you

[dusky pivot]

Holly!! :3

[hearty robin]

explosion fx

[frail peak]

microsoft flight sim got serious competition

[desert shard]

Love the gamefeel here

[uncut remnant]

HUD IS OUT
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=80391

[shadow hinge]

Cool

[sick rain]

yall know if newblood is in need of modelers or if there are any open positions?

[azure flume]

Nope

[crimson tapir]

I added some color correction in the environment increasing the brightness and saturation a bit. You guys think this looks better or worse? On my main monitor the more saturated one looks great, but on the side monitor it looks a bit much and the unsaturated one looks better, I can't tell which monitor is lying to me.

[muted stirrup]

https://vxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1913179432132501509 the bike looks bit more polished now 👀

KS98 (Retrowave '84/Knife Edge 05 Dev) (@[e-mail])

Sometimes you just gotta drift...

#indiegame #Retrowave84 #gamedev https://t.co/6vGPtwEJlP

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[manic heron]

should i reccommend mods in this channel? because:https://youtu.be/oeK31Kg9e_k?si=N9uWDpiizJxDL58E

its half life 1+ blood+ duke nukem+ quake+ doom+ a lotta care and love for fps

[pure jackal]

Finished with this gun

[merry lotus]

collision detection hell

i thought that adding sweeping AABB collision checks would make handling collision detection easier

[tranquil oracle]

when writing a physics system the only collisions that happen are the ones between my head and my desk

[merry lotus]

[dusky pivot]

Lots of visual improvements

Color quantization got boosted to just 12 colors, fog now blends objectsuch better and the color palette has beem adjusted a bit so things closer to you keep more yellow

[unique trellis]

Is there any way to mod gloomwood'

I'd like to change some sounds in particular but my iq is the room temperature of alaska

[unique trellis]

Bepinex

I only know how to mod Dusk with it but I can send you some tools to help you out

[unique trellis]

sure

[unique trellis]

https://github.com/sinai-dev/UnityExplorer Here's a good one

[lean vessel]

Actually really nice

[torn parcel]

can i get any mods even with a pirated copy?

[pale raft]

What do you think

[royal thunder]

anyone know how to fix runtime error in fallout New vegas?

[tiny jolt]

Shit this might help me too
Thanks

Also I might need some Dusk modding tips down the line

[uncut remnant]

gonna try to reanimate Project Brutality's deagle because I don't like the current anims
only done a tiny snippet of the reload so far, but you can probably see what I'm going for and what my issue with the current ones are
left is the current animations that are used in PB_Staging
right is mine

[scarlet kiln]

Hi

[coarse crest]

Hi

[devout cave]

Chainsaw.

[muted stirrup]

https://youtu.be/UJo2ABdKXz8 bullet holes now in 👀

[unique trellis]

bigge

[earnest lily]

We're back

[rotund garden]

finally some good vidya in 2025, unlike that expedition 33 slop!

[earnest lily]

whar...

[royal thunder]

anyone know how to fix?

i have it installed but its not working

[toxic hemlock]

you dont have the ini

[merry lotus]

been thinking of switching the protagonist and antagonist characters in dead end since it makes more sense for the human to be fighting the creepy zombie thing but at the same time it would probably be cooler to play as the creepy zombie thing

[limber bramble]

sometimes it's cool to play as an undead guy

[pure jackal]

zombie on zombie violence
a disagreement between the dead

[merry lotus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/915082772316581909/1195113722910355566/2x-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[blissful arch]

making my own matrix library is so tough

i can barely wrap my head around the mem storage math

[dusky pivot]

Game will have a steam demo :3

[muted stirrup]

gunz go pew pew

[manic heron]

should i reccomend mods in this channel?

i have a hl1 mods to reccomend

[merry lotus]

finally got collision working

can't share a video rn but it works

[tranquil oracle]

Hell yeah

[jade nimbus]

IS THAT MINOS PRIME

[dusky pivot]

Is that a gojo plushie

[merry lotus]

completely forgot that I could use windows game bar to capture videos on my laptop lol (the school network blocks OBS's download page)

anyway here's what I've got for collision so far, it works fine unless you're colliding with faces that don't meet with a 90 degree angle and also the method im using to check for brush collisions is kinda wonky so i had to do some weird stuff to work around that, causing the player to snap to a wall that it's about to collide with (or the floor)

also this isn't in the video but the brush trace function also gets stuck on non-existent ledges sometimes

and I had to add Vector3.UnitY to the players spawn position or else it would fall through the floor

[merry lotus]

fixed the snapping to the floor + falling through the floor

[pale raft]

@merry lotus I can’t believe THE Bruce Campbell shouted out your game

[merry lotus]

dead end x evil dead coming soon

[pale raft]

They’re adding Olivia and Dylan to the next evil dead

[tranquil oracle]

If you want some example code, I'd look at Quake 2 -- it has generic box->brush collision check code

I don't quite remember where in the code it is though

CM_BoxTrace should be the function to look at

or SV_Trace

[merry lotus]

👍

[noble umbra]

Do you have a Steam page for this yet? You've piqued my interest.

[muted stirrup]

not quite yet, probs be later this year since ive got another game releasing there this year also

[noble umbra]

Oh, which one?

[muted stirrup]

Retrowave '84 👍

[noble umbra]

It's on my wishlist already.

[muted stirrup]

nice and thanks

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1918952160294756415 Sniping test 👀

KS98 (Retrowave '84/Knife Edge 05 Dev) (@GameDevKS)

Sniping with slow mo - need I say more?
︀︀
︀︀#IndieGameDev #KnifeEdge05 #indiedev

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[waxen plover]

setting up the atmosphere

[dusky pivot]

Damn that is really good .3.

[waxen plover]

thank you

[dusky pivot]

Maybe I should make things look a bit more detailed

hm..

meanwhile, I have this two white boxes here

Say hi

[waxen plover]

hello boxes

you don't need a lot of detail to make a good game

[dusky pivot]

Im not to worried about it, just that I think I didnt nailed the ps1 style

I guess that on its own creates my own style but it comes purely from mistakes

[waxen plover]

I mean, having your own style is better than the overdone ps1 thing

[dusky pivot]

Yeah I guess you are right

I might be overthinking much lol

[waxen plover]

basically all game devs

your game looks cool, can't wait to play it

[dusky pivot]

Thank you

Gameplay is literally fishing cigarettes and other stuff for no reason lol

And its a narrative game at the same time so I guess you can either go straight to the point or waste your time

[waxen plover]

ah I see

[dusky pivot]

Whats urs about

[waxen plover]

it's inspired by a horror story i read

you go to a public restroom and strange stuff happens

i'm trying to change stuff here and there to make it unique, kind of

[dusky pivot]

Thats really cool :O

[waxen plover]

I started it in 2022, this is how it looked like lol

abandoned it, found the files a few weeks ago and decided to finish it

[dusky pivot]

Post processing is so goated

[royal thunder]

anyone know how to fix goodbyes being invisible in fallout new vegas?

(my mod list)

[merry lotus]

got immediate GUI + text reimplemented

(took the picture with my phone because I'm working on my laptop at rehearsal and the school network blocks discord so I can't post a screenshot easily)

oh and also the shotguns back

[royal thunder]

never mind yall got it fixed

[pale raft]

Shotgun: ✅
Bnuy: ✅

All the essentials

[hazy sky]

bunny

[merry lotus]

crosshair

[waxen plover]

rat before and after

[earnest lily]

Sovl vs sovl

[pure jackal]

Both are perfectttt

[merry lotus]

added particle emitter rotation

here's some bunny fountains coming out of the walls

[pure jackal]

the bnnuys are leaking

[shadow hinge]

It really felt better, it felt heavier, as it should have, hey, I have an idea for your interface, maybe add the ability to change the color of each interface element?

[shadow hinge]

Cool

[merry lotus]

gui scaling

console is still WIP because silk.net's KeyChar callback doesn't work with backspaces for some reason

[tranquil oracle]

KeyChar is just for characters (hence KeyChar), backspace doesn't represent a character so you'd have to detect it with a regular input event

[dusky pivot]

Scene is almost done Im pretty happy with how its turning out

[void maple]

Looks pretty good, reminds me alot of silent hill games and Cry of Fear

[dusky pivot]

Yaaay :3

[merry lotus]

yet another axe remodel + retexture

[tranquil oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KjMjHJ3WQg @merry lotus how convenient for this video to come out right AFTER you implemented this for Dead End

[merry lotus]

well you were the one who came up with the brush synthesis thing and taught it to me

still funny though

[stiff thorn]

XD

[leaden sleet]

Unity?

[merry lotus]

no it's a custom engine made with Silk.NET

[leaden sleet]

Oh. Fair enough lol. Looking good

[merry lotus]

thanks

[hazy sky]

add some view punch

[pale raft]

The “Dead End-gine”

[pure jackal]

Deadtech

[pale raft]

It uses cutting edge technology. Each instance of dead end has a tiny John carmack running things behind the scenes.

[limber bramble]

dead end more like dead peak

[merry lotus]

pause menu!!!

[merry lotus]

sliders!!!!!!!!!

[waxen plover]

trying to make a ps1 model

this looks like one of those shitty roblox horror games

[dusky pivot]

So you tried humans didnt you

[waxen plover]

after i spoke to you i tried it out

[dusky pivot]

It turned out pretty well!

[waxen plover]

thank you, i need to practice some more tho

[dusky pivot]

The general shape is really well done, specially the hands and shoes

Tho, I wanna say faces should be generally much more pixelated

[waxen plover]

oh yeah definitely

[uncut remnant]

like this?

[toxic hemlock]

ai upscale her face texture so its 80k and weights 2 tb

[severe tiger]

Is this your own game? cuz if so this looks awesome!

[shadow hinge]

This ready-made presets or a slider like gearbox?

[hazy sky]

you could try and lower the resolution a little bit of the texture and add some quantization to it

and also shade it a little bit more before the quantization

[muted stirrup]

https://vxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1920406714899145005 carbine now added 👀

KS98 (Retrowave '84/Knife Edge 05 Dev) (@[e-mail])

With a good capacity and solid damage output, these carbines will more often than not get the job done...

#IndieGameDev #KnifeEdge05 #indiedev https://t.co/GCyA2CLVv6

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[hazy sky]

a lot of the time these ps1 models can look off because they lack shading on the model

[waxen plover]

that can be done in unity

and yeah i'm redoing the model

[hazy sky]

the entire model?

[waxen plover]

yeah, I wanna make something unique

not a puppet combo type model

[uncut remnant]

Slider

It’s actually the exact same as Gearbox, just a default engine option

[hazy sky]

@sharp vortex i really wanna make a kings field inspired game

not sure why

[waxen plover]

finish your game first:!!!!!!

[hazy sky]

i would if i had the time

i wanna keep developing but i have so little time between my shifts that tackling some smaller projects would help me stay in shape because i haven't even touched godot or blender for like 2 or 3 months now

but i need to stay in the loop or else i'll fall out

and right now my main project has this little issue where i rewrote most of the systems to work, but they are not complete which requires a lot of time to get right

[pure jackal]

How would you fare any better with a kings field game if you already do not have enough time

[sharp vortex]

ourgh peak

Trying to get my attention stuff sorted out so I can hopefully continue working on mine somewhat soon

[waxen plover]

stick to one game and release it first

I have like 50 unfinished projects, i'm probably gonna finish 2 of them

it's like I get an idea in the shower and decide to turn it into a game but it goes nowhere

it's probably the same for you

[shadow hinge]

And can you also add the ability to change the font, bars color with icons?

[slim lance]

@shadow hinge, please keep all discussions in English.

[foggy blade]

いいえ

[severe tiger]

not cool broah

[severe tiger]

non è bello, fratello

[foggy blade]

I am not your brother

[severe tiger]

ah, i see

supposed to be bro

[foggy blade]

fratello means brother in Italian, fratello

[severe tiger]

mb man

or girl

[foggy blade]

machine

I am a machine

[severe tiger]

understood, machine.

[foggy blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ultra-kill-dance-nailed-it-v1-the-wr13r-gif-13595734573531527596

Aw epic embed fail😔