general-modding

[slender knoll]

it's like building with legos

had a discussion about this ages back with vriska when he was making dusk maps

dude made prop guns out of brushes and it was so fucking good

among other things

[pure jackal]

I need to get back into jack

gotta jack back in

[pure jackal]

oh no

you bought it

[slender knoll]

automatic config, eh? yes please

setting this thing up was a fucking pain that much I can remember

[pure jackal]

send me a screenshot of the UI for the paid version, I wanna see if it literally is any different or if its just the same but expensive

[slender knoll]

also wtf gunman chronicles mentioned

[pure jackal]

that same auto config pops up in the free version iirc?

maybe without the icons but I know that it asks you to point it to quake 1-3 and hexen

[slender knoll]

:ASD:AS:DAS HAHAHAHAHAHA

I already paid for this software you dont have to advertise perilous warp to me

[unique trellis]

Oh it does that in the free version too dw

[slender knoll]

no doubt

hold on let me see if I can member how to build a shitty house

lmao good ol wasd + arrow keys to move the camera around

no middle mouse to pan around or anything

I mean I can probably set this shit up but see if I can fucking bother

[unique trellis]

You can press Z to move the camera around

[slender knoll]

thanks

good to know

oh my god I can still member shit

wait where's snap to grid lmfao

[pure jackal]

at the top

theres 3 grid options

look for the grid with 3d, and it'll be next to that

[slender knoll]

trying to apply textures to a whole brush but ur dum and just picked one side of it 😂👌

[slender knoll]

here's the shitty house I promised you

no idea of proportions

its probably way bigger than randy's proportions were in his duke maps

[pure jackal]

it is identical lmaoooo

[slender knoll]

I suppose the paid version is like the newest patch or some shit

or ur not supposed to make paid products without paying for the software or some shit

anyway 15 bucks for a comprehensive level editor really aint that bad if you have looked at the general pricing of software

[unique trellis]

I recommend enabling draw size info in the J.A.C.K settings so you can see how big your brushes are

[slender knoll]

think I just used to eyeball that in relation to the size of spawn entities

[stiff thorn]

The true level designer's way of nailing proportions

[sharp vortex]

Wish we had programming channel around still, o well, this is close enough

I wrote six letter wordle in monogame

[blissful arch]

nobody talks enough about how cubemaps fucking suck this is absolute bullshit

[hazy sky]

I did a few full fledge csgo maps but didn't upload them and forgot to back them up, I only have the shitty incomplete versions of it so yea

[hazy sky]

roblox house

[slender knoll]

yeah I couldve made windows but nah

even see if I can member how to make a hinged door

[hazy sky]

me when func door

[toxic hemlock]

me when func vehicle

[slender knoll]

hey at least the house isnt a solid block I actually made walls

[hazy sky]

func detail goes hard

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1854521236442816954 👀

[unique trellis]

Friend programmed the working kick

[hazy sky]

how does it work

single point of raycast?

[unique trellis]

Haven't checked that out yet but I should probably do that

[unique trellis]

Any speedrun tech I should know about? I plan to make wall clipping and prop flying a built in mechanic and I was wondering if there's any good ones I should include.

[unique trellis]

Sorry for the constant updates but I found a neat way to help speed up level design. J.A.C.K has an option to export .obj files and these files are indeed compatible with unity with each brush being separated. huge draw back is scaling because models are fucking MASSIVE on import and I had to downscale it.

[toxic hemlock]

oh scaling might be that jack exports obj at its own unit scale and then unity interprets 1 unit as 1 meter and scales the model accordingly

[tranquil oracle]

Yeah you usually want to scale BSP stuff down by a factor of 32 when importing into Unity

[oblique hinge]

the second t in the second guess should've been grey.

[sharp vortex]

Yep

been chewing on how to fix that issue, might have to keep a counter and do some weird shit

[vast field]

what is this channel

[merry lotus]

it's for game development and game modding

[vast field]

oh ok ty

[blissful arch]

directional light shadows as well as point light shadows in my custom engine

last step is spotlight shadows

[merry lotus]

awesome!

[feral ermine]

looks really nice!

Started to actually apply smooth shading to curved meshes and improve their textures/UVs

Difference feels night and day

[merry lotus]

i've lost track of how many games i'm currently working on

[uncut agate]

what is this
i need to know
it feels like wii fit

[blissful arch]

guess what

[uncut agate]

chicken butt?

[uncut agate]

what

[blissful arch]

chicken butt

[uncut agate]

you trickster

[blissful arch]

relax snowflake

it's called dark humor

[uncut agate]

https://tenor.com/view/mui-goku-based-dark-humor-dark-humour-gif-23496062

[merry lotus]

https://bskyx.app/profile/plazmin.bsky.social/post/3lajwevq47c2q

[uncut agate]

i like emptiness

[uncut agate]

better

[balmy ruin]

fun guy

[unique trellis]

Got the measurements down. 256x256 base for the level size and 2-3 pixels high for player height. I also made a custom wad for mapping which is just 2 textures.

[merry lotus]

so the way the TV game that I posed on bluesky earlier is gonna work is that you have to use the TV light to navigate but if you look at the screen you die instantly

but i'm not sure about it

does anyone have any ideas on how to improve it or just opinions about it?

[pure jackal]

Maybe have a threat inhabit random tvs across the map and bounce around between them?

Like a reverse fnaf

[wraith beacon]

Have the original Night of the Living Dead be on the tvs.

Or uhhhhhhh, some other public domain movie.

[blissful arch]

what if you make it like slenderman so you can look at it for a little bit of time, maybe have some kind of map or clues or hidden passage etc.

[blissful arch]

custom engine?

[sonic cloud]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3363042485

Played around with color correction to achieve NVG effect

[unique trellis]

No just using jack for level design

[unique trellis]

I'm at a serious roadblock for how I want the soundtrack

Like I'm constantly switching between
-Freebird like music
-Anger foot esque
-Breakcore

I need something like intense and fast paced to match the whole "Go as fast as you possibly can" gameplay I plan to have

I'm not going for metal music because it doesn't really fit what I'm going for

[toxic hemlock]

soundtrack by femtanyl

[unique trellis]

Added backwards bhopping. It checks if you're moving backwards and if it does then it increases your airbrone speed by a ton.

[unique trellis]

There's no speed cap btw

So you can get to extremely fast speeds

[pale yarrow]

Hi

can I get some help regarding on how to use https://github.com/NewBloodInteractive/com.newblood.lighting-internals/tree/master

bump

[tranquil oracle]

Anything in particular you need help with?

(Feel free to ping me, I'm the author of that library)

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1855941561537716393 💥

[pale yarrow]

Hi buddy , actually I had an issue, I have scene that I have baked lightmaps which took almost 27 hours even with minimized resolution settings and other stuffs, actually the scene is so big. whatever , I did the bake in unity 2021, now Im upgrading my project to 2022 or unity 6 , the main problem is, the lightmaps are no longer properly arranged on scene gameobjects in newer version of unity . now I dont actually want a long 27hrs or uncertain baking once more due to a lot power outages here . can I do something to make proper scaling and accurate arrangement of the lightmaps in newer version of unity? using your library? can You please guide me if possible?

[pure jackal]

Need to re-do this after I figure out "child of" constraints but it'll do for the time being

[unique trellis]

Gonna add a few more things before I go on a small hiatus on development because my computer is slowing do so much that it's a pain to even navigate anything

[tranquil oracle]

Do you get a warning in the console about enlighten or something?

[unique trellis]

Simple speedometer

Also nerfed backwards bhopping so its easier to control and not as broken

I think this is the last feature until I get a new computer

[unique trellis]

I'm thinking of making the music dynamic based on your speed. Faster you go the more intense the music gets instead of increasing based on combat scenarios.

[waxen plover]

teaser for a game i'm making

[unique trellis]

:0

Looks nice

[pale yarrow]

no

[tranquil oracle]

And your scene hasn't changed other than just being upgraded?

[pale yarrow]

yeah, nothing changed , just jumped to newer unity version

[tranquil oracle]

Can you show an example of what you mean by the lightmaps not being properly arranged?

Are there like, corrupted looking shadows or something?

The lighting internals library basically just allows you to change values inside the LightingDataAsset

But to me it sounds like the UVs have changed somehow

[pale yarrow]

can I send you in dm? , there is no way to share image here

[tranquil oracle]

Sure

You can post images in the server once you get the first role (happens automatically once you've been posting in here for a bit)

For now you can either DM or post a link

[hazy sky]

dying light 2 reference

more and more new blue names keep popping up,,,,

[unique trellis]

Speed Storage mechanic I have planned

Any feedback and recommendations on changes would be appreciated

I designed this system to make the movement more smoother and better for speedrunners

[crystal lance]

Hi do anyone knows how can i put custom game texture to a modpack that im making in r2modman?
cuz i modified some game textures

[unique trellis]

GOOD NEWS

Hooked up my steam deck so I'm using it as a temp computer

Hopefully it's stable enough for development

[hazy sky]

it should be tbh

its no different than a laptop

[blissful arch]

except for the fact that it's linux

my experience with unity on linux was very little but i'm sure it'll be good enough

[hazy sky]

pretty sure you can dual boot to windows as well

[blissful arch]

yeah but you'd have some trouble with bootloader priority

ans also storage

[blissful arch]

happy

[limber bramble]

Very nice

[unique trellis]

Ultrakill style meter idea thing. I thought of adding a style meter to the game along side the new movement rework I'm currently working on. it will work just like Ultrakill's but instead of being based off of combat it's instead based off of the speed tech you're using. Does this idea sound good at all?

[waxen plover]

made in 1 hour

[limpid garden]

that could be really cool, what type of game you making?

[unique trellis]

It's hard to say but it mostly surrounds around getting a goal done as fast as you can

It's like a speedrunners game since I plan to include a lot of speedrun tech from other games into this one

[blissful arch]

finished shadows

[merry lotus]

hell yeah

[unique trellis]

made rough version of the speed storage thing I was talking about. Right now it just adds together values of different movement like bhopping and walking. I also added a falloff for speed where if you revert back to walking then you still keep your speed but it slowly depletes. (Ignore the black bar I forgot to resize the canvas in obs)

Thinking of replacing the speedometer

[unique trellis]

Brake mechanic that my friend coded in but I just fixed so it works with the new movement rework. Nothing special as it's a key you hold down to completely halt your movement

[limber bramble]

Looks great

Are you doing PCF filtering for them or somethin

[blissful arch]

yeah

the buffers are pretty low res so i bump the samples up

[unique trellis]

Got the current action part of the speed board working

[blissful arch]

skybox

[pale yarrow]

@tranquil oracle Can I erase light probe data from lighting data asset using your tool? is it possible?

[tranquil oracle]

You can yeah

I don't think you need my tool to do it though

pretty sure you can just set https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/LightmapSettings-lightProbes.html to null

[pale yarrow]

how do I do that? I mean...I just want to erase lightprobes from the lighting data asset, to reduce it's size, I dont need lightprobes anymore)

[tranquil oracle]

the light probes are a separate asset

[tranquil oracle]

for this you'd just do it from an editor script

[pale yarrow]

arent they stored in lighting data asset?

[tranquil oracle]

There is a reference to the light probe asset in the lighting data asset

But none of the data itself is stored directly in it

[pale yarrow]

Then why lighting data asset size is like 370 mb?

what is inside it actually?

[tranquil oracle]

https://github.com/NewBloodInteractive/com.newblood.lighting-internals/blob/master/Editor/LightingData/ScriptableLightingData.cs#L247-L275

This describes the entirety of the asset

It's just references to other assets, and settings for lights & renderers

[pale yarrow]

can I reverse my own lighting data asset? to check what's inside?

[tranquil oracle]

Yeah

[pale yarrow]

can I edit them and and pack back into normal lighting data asset?

[tranquil oracle]

The library gives you full control over the lighting data asset

You can also look at the lighting data asset in the inspector

Help -> About Unity
When the about window opens, type internal (no text box or anything, just type it lol)
Unity should refresh or something

Then you can click on the lighting data asset, and in the inspector you can choose Debug-Internal here:

(the dropdown menu in the top right next to the padlock)

and then it's all visible in the inspector

[pale yarrow]

can I bake lightprobes only in an existing lightmapped scene?

[pale yarrow]

cool!

[tranquil oracle]

I don't think you can bake just the probes

[pale yarrow]

I cant find debug internal option

[tranquil oracle]

It's in the inspector's hamburger menu

If there's only Normal and Debug, then you'll need to do the about menu thing again

[hazy sky]

chat.... I'll have two weeks off in December,,,,

I smell an update

[pale yarrow]

what ever , How do I edit lighting data asset using your library? any clue?

[tranquil oracle]

The readme file on the repo has examples

You install it via the package manager's git option

[pale yarrow]

@tranquil oracle can you tell me a bit that what are those which i can do with this data?
var data = ScriptableObject.CreateInstance<ScriptableLightingData>();

[tranquil oracle]

It contains all the information stored on the lighting data asset

So you can use the properties on it to change things

and then you use the Write function to save the changes back to the lighting data asset

i.e.

data.lightProbes = null;
data.Write(asset);

[pale yarrow]

can I reverse search the game objects which are using a particular lightmap based on that lightmap texture? or in any other method?

[tranquil oracle]

If you know the index of that lightmap in the lightmaps array, you can find all renderers that use that same index

[pale yarrow]

how do I find all the renderers based on index? what's the procedure for that?

[tranquil oracle]

public static int GetLightmapIndex(Texture2D lightmapColor)
{
    var lightmaps = LightmapSettings.lightmaps;

    for (int i = 0; i < lightmaps.Length; i++)
    {
        if (lightmaps[i].lightmapColor == lightmapColor)
        {
            return i;
        }
    }

    return -1;
}

This is how you can get the lightmap index from the lightmap texture

[pale yarrow]

suppose, I know the index number, now what to do

[tranquil oracle]

Then you just iterate over any Renderer components in the scene (i.e. you can use FindObjectsOfType<Renderer>())

And check renderer.lightmapIndex

[pale yarrow]

wow thats great

[pale yarrow]

is it possible to record baked lightprobes of a specific area to a lighting data asset?

[tranquil oracle]

Not sure what you mean

The lighting data asset doesn't contain any probes, it just has a reference to the probes asset

You could make a probes asset and make the lighting data asset reference it, if that's what you mean

[pale yarrow]

yeah , the baked scene certainly has 577000 lightprobes baked. obvious the data is in probe asset or something, but can we divide the baked probes in several probe asset?

[tranquil oracle]

Like, split one probes asset into multiple?

Nope

[pale yarrow]

thats pain

[tranquil oracle]

Probes are tied to a lightmap bake, so for each set of light probes, you would need to do another lightmap bake

[pale yarrow]

yeah got it, only if unity had a "bake light probes only" option

it was in unity 4

[tranquil oracle]

You can technically use the library to manually split up light probe assets and then manually swap them out during gameplay, but I don't know how hard that would be

[pale yarrow]

actually the total light probe data is 370 mb, I wanna divide my scene in 64 scenes , thats hhow it would be 370/64= 5 or 6 mb.

but i dont have any idea how can i split the lightprobes, I need to see them first , and select them

[waxen plover]

that's too fast

[tranquil oracle]

The library gives access to both LightingDataAsset and LightProbes, but I have never actually done anything with the light probe stuff

https://github.com/NewBloodInteractive/com.newblood.lighting-internals/tree/master/Editor/LightProbes code is here

[waxen plover]

i'll try to make a similar bhop thing

[tranquil oracle]

I only exposed the data, I haven't tried changing it much

[pale yarrow]

I will dig it out

[unique trellis]

It's exactly the point

The entire game is about going fast

Would it be a good idea to upload these devlog videos onto youtube? Thinking about doing that as it's a good archive and people get to see the project progress.

[unique trellis]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJy0QQcj9W3_V3DrP9PaFdAhTHTRA-n3U&si=_ClTc1OHOJHgvUZt Not sure if I'm able to share this here but I made a playlist with all the devlog videos.

[waxen plover]

but it's pretty easy to bhop

you should make players try to get good at it, just being able to do it right off the bat is gonna make the game boring

maybe try to make the speed buildup slow

[unique trellis]

Look I appreciate the concern but I don't really think that's a good idea for the game. I want the player to have fun with the game by having the core mechanic of bhopping and gaining speed not be a pain to learn but instead making combos of these movements a learning process. You're given the tools but you just gotta learn how to master them.

[waxen plover]

alright, if that's what you're aiming for then go ahead

I didn't mean any offense

[unique trellis]

Nah you're all good I understand what you were saying

[unique trellis]

https://youtu.be/TWGd8Dghvf0

[waxen plover]

did a test bhop system

compression distorted the vid

[unique trellis]

https://youtu.be/ntVXl3ue7hM Plazmin helped me out on getting this to work

[unique trellis]

Lil shotgun

[desert shard]

Went back to one of my old games and tweaked it a little

Feels like a mosh pit now

[proud cobalt]

where do i get the ultrasex mod

[proud cobalt]

name

[desert shard]

Redline express

Except I didn't update the game with these tweaks though lol.

The old version is still what's there rn

[stiff thorn]

always love a beat 'em up about positioning and crowd control 😄

tell me when you upload the new version, I'll check it out if it's free

[earnest lily]

Mash'Em Up to the moon

[pale yarrow]

Hi , I have a scene which I have divided into some chunks, I have observed and took the lightmaps used in chunk B into a folder. I have edited the lighting data asset by removing all other lightmaps except which are used in chunk B and did write this modfied data into a new lighting data asset . when I place that lighting data asset in the reference , everything in Chunk B looks like they dont have any lightmaps at all. I have checked some object's mesh renderer info but there is no lightmap info at all. i.e no objects are using lightmap even if the lighting data is referencing those lightmaps which were supposed to be used by Chunk B.

I have sent you two screenshots of the difference

[tranquil oracle]

Did you also update the RendererData in the lighting data asset? That's what tells each object what lightmap to use

You have to update lightmappedRendererData and lightmappedRendererDataIDs

lightmappedRendererDataIDs contains a SceneObjectIdentifier for each renderer component, and lightmappedRendererData contains a RendererData for the renderer at the same index in lightmappedRendererDataIDs

So if you have some object called Cube with a lightmap, and it's at lightmappedRendererDataIDs[0], then its information is also at lightmappedRendererData[0]

[pale yarrow]

there one more thing I have found

I have total 240 lightmaps, I have kept lightmaps of index 16 , 17 and removed all. andthe result is like what I have told you above. But i did the same thing on the lightmaps of index 1,2,3 and removed all of the rest from the array , and save dthe modfied version in new lighting data asset. I have checked the chunk which use lightmaps 1, 2,3 , and put that lighting data asset on it , and wow it works well, proper lightmap arrangement . I think it;s the problem with serial number , because when I keep lightmap 16, 17 , and remove all, those 16, 17 lightmaps by deafult gets into index 1, 2 , instead of index 16,17 that was used to be.

[tranquil oracle]

Yeah you need to update the renderer data to use the new indexes once you remove lightmaps

Find all RendererData values that use the old index, and change it to the new one

[pale yarrow]

there are almost thousands of renderer data, how do I modify all of them?

[tranquil oracle]

Loop over them all

var rendererData = data.lightmappedRendererData;

for (int i = 0; i < rendererData.Length; i++)
{
    // do stuff
}

data.lightmappedRendererData = rendererData;```

[pale yarrow]

thanks a lot

[tranquil oracle]

np

[hazy sky]

throwback to when i had quake style movement in my game with bhop

[pale yarrow]

@tranquil oracle it seems again i am stuck somehow... i removed the unnecessary render data by excluding all other data that uses indices other than the indices that are used by the necessary objects...But now how do i remove the unnecessary Render data IDs? previously i used the index numbers but now what do i use? render data id doesn't seem to have any index...

[tranquil oracle]

Whenever you remove something from renderer data, remove the ID at the same index

You can think of both arrays as the same array just split into two

So they need to stay in sync

So if you remove the data at index 50, remove the id at index 50 too

[pale yarrow]

is there any way to identify the ids after i have removed the render data?

[tranquil oracle]

Identify?

[pale yarrow]

alright i got you, but ScriptableLightingData.RendererData exist but ScriptableLightingData.RendererDataID doesn't...

[tranquil oracle]

lightmappedRendererData and lightmappedRendererDataIDs

[earnest lily]

how we doin up in here?

[merry lotus]

snazzy

[unique trellis]

https://youtu.be/GyaQKkZxkeI Added "Shopping" to the game. Also next up it weapons so finally no more updates around movement anymore.

[waxen plover]

https://streamable.com/l9fqln

bored

[sharp vortex]

in that HL2 kind of mood now, making an underwater sea base type thing

messing around with ambience, liking it so far

its hard to see in the video because my monitor brightness is fucked but im using dark blue fog, dust motes, and bubbles to make it look like there's water outside the window, and it works incredibly well

[blissful arch]

im sure it looks great but ngl i can't see anything even on max brightness

[spare scarab]

i can see stuff pretty well on my second, worse monitor

looks good btw

[sharp vortex]

Yeah I might need to turn HDR off while I work on it or smth lmao

But also I like deep dark shadows, so idk, it's just kind of placeholder lighting while I try to figure out the look I'm going for

[waxen plover]

contrast is probably low asf

[unique trellis]

https://youtu.be/4rzTxQrikqE Will be giving out test builds so if anyone is interested in just messing around with the movement and giving feedback then just give me a dm and I'd be glad to hand over a copy

[bitter maple]

1

[crimson tapir]

Wow, it's certainly been a minute

Project looks quite a bit different since last time I was here

[azure flume]

Lookin good

[blissful arch]

joe ligma joined the server

can't wait for his sidekick nathan sugma to join as well

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1859214019531256124 💥

[pale yarrow]

@tranquil oracle i got past the lightmapping, thanks to your great library...now i have to modify the lightprobes....while searching for it, i got a way... there is "LightmapSettings.lightProbes.positions"(read only). i thought that if i could write my desired positions of lightprobes in the lightmap data, that would fulfil what i want to do....but i can't find any way to write those positions in "Scriptable Light Probes"....is there a way out?

[tranquil oracle]

ScriptableLightProbes.data.positions

[pale yarrow]

when i modify lightprobe data, and then put the modified lighting data asset on the scene, unity crashesh everytime...only when the dynamic object that is affected by the lightprob is disabled, it doesn't crash and when i enable it, unity crashes....any thought?

[tranquil oracle]

No clue unfortunately, I haven't tried to modify the light probes data before

If you're on Unity 2023.2 or higher you can use https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/LightProbes.SetPositionsSelf.html to change the positions

[pale yarrow]

sadly, i am using 2021.3....

[unique trellis]

Rough render of the games cover. Not the best but it will do for now.

[waxen plover]

Little teaser from smth I'm making
https://youtu.be/jcMXOm4iyyE

[subtle monolith]

Hey all! I've noticed that there isn't a gloomwood-modding channel so I thought I'd say it here.

Gloomwood is now on https://thunderstore.io/ (has been for a while actually) and supported by all major Thunderstore clients! I hope this paths the way for more Gloomwood mods but we can only hope.

[merry lotus]

well there isn't a gloomwood modding channel bc it's not done yet so modding it isn't the best idea right now since everything is subject to change

[toxic hemlock]

bro made "ultrakill but ..." without the "but"

[waxen plover]

ultrakill but it's purple guy murdering kids with an extra bit of swagger

[wicked lake]

Lmao

[blissful arch]

holy guacamole

[analog rain]

Waos

[patent spade]

trench foot coming soon https://youtu.be/SE6f7diLm0s

[hazy sky]

this looks fire as fuck

ignore malphass there but holy shit i NEED the lewis gun

guess what im gonna do next

@wraith beacon which model lewis gun would you recommend me for aesthetic purposes?

MK1?

MK2?

i feel like MK2 without the shovel grip would be cool

[hazy sky]

would be cool if i made the reload completely ignore the button in the magazine

and just slap the magazine out with another

[hazy sky]

a bit heavier than usual

i tried to stay AS low poly as possible

[hazy sky]

cannot wait to unwrap this

yea

that's about as low as i can go

[pure jackal]

I thought they started using the bren gun in ww2

[earnest lily]

there were plenty leftovers iirc

[hazy sky]

i think the lewis gun is pretty accurate lore-wise considering we are talking about a group of fighters that procure equipment by themselves

[hazy sky]

oh no

did i just cs1.6'd the gun

ejection port on wrong side 🥶

[hazy sky]

new magnum opus,,

[merry lotus]

got DAMN

[hazy sky]

gotta assemble it,,,,,,,,,

i need to see it in full

[merry lotus]

how'd you get the metal looking so reflective? i love how your guns look and i wanna apply the same thing to this shotgun i made for Dead End

[hazy sky]

what program do you use

[merry lotus]

blender

[hazy sky]

for texturing?

[merry lotus]

yeah

i get textures from ambientcg.com and use some nodes I found on the internet for ambient occlusion & top/down shading and then i bake it

[hazy sky]

i hand paint mine from scratch

[merry lotus]

damn

[hazy sky]

plus the extra light baking i do in substance painter

then again substance painter does a lot of the heavy lifting for me

[merry lotus]

i don't have substance

[hazy sky]

FUCK

some cute alpha cutout decor

not done yet tho

still gotta do the lighting polish but it's almost cooked

[hazy sky]

@fickle drum motherfucker was the lewis gun in cultic as well

actually it wasn't THANK god

i need to do the grenades and finish the petrol bomb

i got stuck with godot's shitty as fuck physics engine last time with the molotov's rag

@pure jackal @rotund garden @spare scarab

[pure jackal]

GOOD SIR

PORN IS AGAINST THE SERVER RULES

[hazy sky]

i feel like i could still shave off polygons from the count

we'll see how detailed it looks in game

[toxic hemlock]

apparently godot's physics just actually fucking suck and the way u fix it is u use jolt instead

[unique trellis]

I remember working with Godot physics

never again

[hazy sky]

tbh i don't wanna fuck with the physics too much, i might just create a rig for the mesh and have it flail around or something

or pre animate it for all i care

[toxic hemlock]

just do what all source engine games do and just procedurally animate it with a spring formula

[hazy sky]

softbody sucks

so the rig method might work

[toxic hemlock]

again thats literally what every source engine game ever does

like titanfall 2 does this

all those pouches and shit hanging from pilots and grunts? no physics, just damped springs

hell l4d2 does this for it's molotovs

[fickle drum]

nope

[hazy sky]

this is the way then

i remember the holy mackrel too being like this

[toxic hemlock]

yeah tf2 jigglebones everything too

[fickle drum]

they have molotovs tho

[hazy sky]

yea ok i had molotovs for a year now

i showed it around too

[toxic hemlock]

jiggles are so goated like they literally use jigglebones for the fluid inside the mad milk, jarate, and all the bread in jars

[hazy sky]

misfortunes were had

goes to show how early i got them on

old map, old rain, old HUD, old guns and hand model

[pure jackal]

SPEEENNNNN

[hazy sky]

i made so much progress since,,,,,,,,,,

[pure jackal]

Nobody really tells you that when you make a game you make the whole fucking game

[hazy sky]

what

[pure jackal]

I mean, nobody really tells you that when you make a game you make the whole fucking game

So when you look back you go "wow I've made a shit ton of a game"

[unique trellis]

Delivery Boy remodel.

Less polygons and has the simple geometry look I'm going for

My friend is currently busy adding more stuff and I'm hoping to show off a basic tutorial soon

Found a bunch of videos of an older version of Hot and ready back in 2023 when I was using godot to make it. I'm so glad I didn't continue this as doesn't look really good and has that amateur coder jank to it.

[rotund garden]

holy based

[merry lotus]

I'd like some advice on which of my games to prioritize since i somehow managed to get myself working on 5 of them lol

if you guys have any recommendations on games i should put at the top of my to-do list or games that i should leave for later then I'd love to hear it

[rotund garden]

I can only ask one thing

which one has the most amount of progress done?

[merry lotus]

i'd say all of them are around 5% done

[unique trellis]

What's currently on your to-do list?

[merry lotus]

everything in this bluesky thread
https://bsky.app/profile/plazmin.bsky.social/post/3lajwevq47c2q

Plazmin (@plazmin.bsky.social)

NEW Thread of all the games I'm making right now 🧵

Bluesky · Nov 9, 2024, 6:32 PM

[unique trellis]

I'm not the best at giving advice on this stuff as the most I've worked on is 2 games at once but what I like to do is focus on stuff I feel like doing so it doesn't feel forced and not lose interest after half an hour

[merry lotus]

but the thing is I want to work on all of them equally

well mainly Dead End and NewU

and also I really wanna work on the gloomwood dungeon rougelike (I really gotta figure out if there's a shorter name for that) and I'm also working on some blockbench plugins for violxiv

[unique trellis]

violxiv?

[merry lotus]

https://bsky.app/profile/violxiv.bsky.social

Bluesky

the thing I wanna work on everything at once but when I actually start working on it I immediately lose motivation

[unique trellis]

I feel you on that one. Sucks when that happens.

I usually just work at my pace and do things when I can.

[hazy sky]

I mean yea, it's brutal and you don't normally notice it unless you look at an older build where things were subsequently shittier

[sonic sorrel]

not even sure if this COUNTS as modding but me and my friends might be cooking

[unique trellis]

What's some cool movement stuff I can reward players for pulling off? There's this COOL SHIT speed bonus I plan on adding where if you do COOL SHIT then you're rewarded with speed.

So far I have:
-Front/Back flipping in the air
-Timing your bhops
-Boncing off of npcs (Has to be a chain of 3 in a row in order to count)

[hazy sky]

this is some Lego island typa shit so far

[unique trellis]

I think you got the wrong ping but I'm not sure

[hazy sky]

no

did you play Lego games

Lego island especially with the pizza delivery minigames

that shit was cool

[unique trellis]

OH

I didn't play much lego games as a kid unfortunately

All I remember was lego starwars and the lego movie videogame

But the entire point for the cool shit speed boost is to encourage players to do cool shit more often and get rewarded for playing stylishly. Hell I'm not gonna add dying to the game and instead have it be a damage penalty slow down that accumulates the more you get hit.

[hazy sky]

I think Lego island 2 had a cool pizza delivery game where you used a skateboard or a scooter to get around

and you could do tricks like in Tony hawk

[unique trellis]

omg you gave me an idea

Being able to skate rails but without a skateboard

you just slide across the rail for momentum

[hazy sky]

yes

also make awnings xou could bounce up from

[pure jackal]

Lego island 2 was my favorite i liked it better than one

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1861016250052223115

[hazy sky]

substance paintin time

[hazy sky]

do you want me to work some magic on this

[merry lotus]

that would be cool

I'll send you the model in 2-3 hours

[hazy sky]

aight

i won't promise i'll start working on it immediately because 2-3 hours later i might be asleep

[merry lotus]

ok

[hazy sky]

okay something aint right

had some multiplication issues going on

[pure jackal]

Very bright

[hazy sky]

WHAT

only way to find out is to see in game,,,,,

[hazy sky]

lets see now

uh

i didn't take the gun's size into account,,

which one looks better

spiny mashinegun

i think this is the best so far

[hazy sky]

sound is very placeholder

magazine rotates EXACTLY 7 degrees with each firing, as that's the proper rate of turning

[pure jackal]

Zamn

[hazy sky]

i need to create a weapon category system within the inventory

so like, i could just hide some secret weapons on some levels you could get and use until the end of the chapter

and it would replace one of the respective slot

so let's say you got pistol, found suppressor? cool. delete the unsilenced variant

also im gonna create a weapon showroom tomorrow i think

[pale yarrow]

@tranquil oracle can you tell why this error is showing when I am trying to read a lightprobe from lightmapsetting?

" Assertion failed on expression: 'length >= 0'
UnityEditor.EditorJsonUtility:ToJson (object)
NewBlood.ScriptableLightProbes:Read (UnityEngine.LightProbes) "

[tranquil oracle]

Not sure why that would be happening

[blissful arch]

as somebody who doesn't know jack shit about this gun, doesn't seven degrees of rotation end up not making a full 360 degrees

[hazy sky]

it doesn't need a full 360, there's a but of space between the bullets so while even, a row of bullets do not equal 360 degrees

[blissful arch]

does that gun have 51 bullets

[hazy sky]

49

[blissful arch]

ugh

[hazy sky]

you gotta account for vertical stacking

the other version is 97 bullets

[blissful arch]

i guess thats pretty cool

[hazy sky]

yeah

I fucking love it

I will need to rebake the normals tho

weighted normals fucked up the top of the magazine

it looks like a very round cap rather than a flat cylinder

right now I have the FG42, the MP40, a Lewis MG, and the Sten MKII as automatic weapons.

i have the Webley, the C96 and the Beretta as secondaries, I have the Remington M10 as the shotgun with the luftwaffe drilling that is planned.

then I got the Kar98k for sniper rifle but I will also probably make a Mas 36 or Krag, and a Vetterli Vitali

plus the petrol bombs and the bazooka and the German stick grenade planned

it's quite the arsenal already

I don't mind making overlapping weapons as every gun that doesn't get into the campaign, I will add to either the multiplayer or as an unlockable replacement

[azure flume]

I wouldnt have noticed this thing rotates at all if you didnt tell me

So something needs to be fixed about this animation

Maybe giving it a splash of rust on one sector or something would make the movement stand out more?

[hazy sky]

i was thinking of that actually, like i tried so hard to not bake lighting too obvious on the magazine, but actually it needs that

[hazy sky]

is it more noticable from this angle?

i think it's pretty noticable as is

[azure flume]

the recoil is pretty good at hiding it

[unique trellis]

Should I experiment with ed edd n eddy sounds?

Like unironically use the sound effects

[hazy sky]

fuck yea

[hazy sky]

I also implemented a system for inverting the gun's swaying when moving the mouse

I use it for shouldered weapons so they lead, while loose weapons like pistols take a while to catch up similar to HL2's sway

also shouldered weapons bob more upwards when walking while small weapons bob more horizontally

the only thing I need to implement is a hitscan toggle

[unique trellis]

I have an idea for another game game to use these in because they would not work in Hot And Ready

[hazy sky]

fuked

[pure jackal]

THUG IT OUT

[minor bear]

perk machines for upcoming rtcw survival mode

[earnest lily]

[pure jackal]

Ayo

[merry lotus]

remaking NewU in godot

[hazy sky]

what's new u

[stiff thorn]

What's new? U

[spare scarab]

Wow nice work

[azure flume]

newUwU?

[merry lotus]

game I was making in unity

[minor bear]

got the perk icons done just now too

[spare scarab]

that's really, really damn good

[limber bramble]

very nice

[merry lotus]

got DAMN

[blissful arch]

these look awesome

[minor bear]

ty

[pure jackal]

Recognizable yet unique!

[hazy sky]

i so fucking love my ingenuinity

i was like man how am i gonna create hitscan logic while retaining every property of the bullets within the gun

simple, create a bullet with a 1000 unit length raycast, set the bullet speed to 1, the bullet's lifetime to 0.1 and voila

it also allows me to retain the recoil and spread

i'm so fucking good man

[hazy sky]

also holy fuck i thought these were legit cod stuff

added some highlights to the lewis magazine to better show the spiny and finally made the scope of the kar98 also move when you walk

the scope movement follows the same sine wave that the base walking bobbing does, so essentially the base sway is 1:1 the same thing as the gun's

[minor bear]

is that moh on some modern engine?

[unique trellis]

Dynamic music test. I used the cybergrind theme as a test to see how it would work.

Well it's pretty bare bones dynamic

it just scales the volume based on speed and caps out at 100

[queen stag]

e

[unique trellis]

Anyone here know how I would make Dusk like vertical flipping?

[unique trellis]

I know it's not much for a tutorial so far because I've been pretty distracted all day but I thought I'd still show it off

The map was made in J.A.C.K and scaled down in unity to a quarter of its size. I'm mapping in x4 the size as J.A.C.K doesn't support anything below 1 pixel in size. I'll figure out a better way of doing this in the future as I plan to have this game moddable at some point and mapping like this is really fucking stupid.

[azure flume]

4x size everything in your game instead, there cant be much yet, right?

[unique trellis]

That will fuck with the scaling of the game too much

It's a temporary solution

until I find a better way

[azure flume]

there is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution

[hazy sky]

ah yes, I love that as well

"ill fix it later in development" temporary fix usually stays either until the end of dev cycle or stays permanent

[unique trellis]

Look I don't want to map like this at all but it's all I really have rn

If I had an alternative I would immediately switch to it

[hazy sky]

can you check whether the player is on the floor or not

you could do a check in the mouse script when rotating the camera that when not on the floor, remove the clamping from the rotation value and allow for a full 360 degree rotation

just make sure to lerp it back to an appropriate rotation when landing otherwise you'll land with a broken neck and a clamped rotation

[pine musk]

oh fuck yea 🗣️ 🔥

[hazy sky]

you could handle it how nier automata did it

automata had like 4 different versions of the same song playing at the same time

and it would just crossfade as needed

like it had the generic exploration version, the combat theme, orchestral version and 8bit version for hacking

[unique trellis]

Yeah I was planning that but I'm not good at looping music. If I get a soundtrack ready I'll definitely rewrite it to work like that.

[hazy sky]

the secret is to make the music follow a set progression so they line up when you need to transition

I was planning a system like this in my game too where the instruments would slowly get introduced as you progress

[unique trellis]

I've tried this before and the camera went haywire when I tried to flip

Hard to explain but it was freaking the hell out

[hazy sky]

can you show it

[unique trellis]

I didn't record it unfortunately and I'm not going to reprogram a broken feature to showcase it 😔

[hazy sky]

well how else do you intend to accept help if you refuse to experiment with an extra pair of eyes

[unique trellis]

I'm not refusing at all. But you do have a point and that's on me for being lazy

I'll try to recreate it later today

@hazy sky

[hazy sky]

seems like you're gaining speed

can you show me the code responsible for rotating the character's camera?

[hazy sky]

fleep

[hazy sky]

experimenting with z tilting

ignore the half life weapon bob

[hazy sky]

im gonna create a small silent hill inspired walking experience on this engine/framework as a small distraction

[earnest lily]

kino

[hazy sky]

but i'm gonna deliberately ignore silent hill media

i'm gonna create silent hill from memory

[waxen plover]

mauser my beloved

[hazy sky]

yos

[hazy sky]

james,,,,

[hazy sky]

enjoying the fucking amazing puddles

the flashlight can get jammed, idk why its not intended

it is now

[dusky pivot]

I gotta go to sleep I gotta go to sleep stop changing textures and adding plants please brain its 7am

[spare scarab]

lookin cool

very neat visuals

[dusky pivot]

Thanks a lot <:

[waxen plover]

only thing keeping me from switching to godot is

probuilder

[hazy sky]

i use blender

[stiff thorn]

Oh yeah, genuine question guys, what's the best way to go about in regards to building levels? Is it better to make walls from godot csg's and use whatever furniture you have for other stuff (pillars too) or make the entire thing in blender?

[waxen plover]

can be annoying

[waxen plover]

you can do a lot of cool stuff in blender, so i'd say blender

but to get an idea of how the level looks just add cubes and resize them etc in godot

[stiff thorn]

I use blender a lot, dw, I just don't know how best to go about building levels

[waxen plover]

then replace them with assets

[waxen plover]

it's not really that hard tbh, just look at references

[stiff thorn]

Oh I try, I'm just really shit at finding them I guess 😅

[waxen plover]

I suggest pinterest, very handy

[stiff thorn]

Yeah I've looked there, it's helped out a ton, just not with levels

My ideas for them are specific enough to cross out a bunch of references, but never specific enough to actually build out a level

It's just like a foggy image in my mind

[hazy sky]

I just make the general level in blender and furnish it with props inside of Godot

[hazy sky]

also you have the cyclops level builder for Godot

which is just probuilder

[waxen plover]

I honestly just place random blocks where I think fit and tweak it, then replace them with models later on

[waxen plover]

I see

[stiff thorn]

Fair

[waxen plover]

heard the godot language is basically python

which is cool

[stiff thorn]

Oh yeah, very similar

[hazy sky]

VERY similar

[waxen plover]

I mean there's also C# so transitioning from unity would be easy

[hazy sky]

it's so easy even me, who knows 0 languages can do cool things with it

[waxen plover]

I used to make stuff in pygame so this'll be fun

[waxen plover]

alr alr

[hazy sky]

yeah it's supported, albeit you need the mono version of Godot for it I think

like c# is not in the base engine

I think

I'll check for you if you want me to

[waxen plover]

it's fine I'll just stick with the main language in the engine

it's just that the interface is a bit complicated

[hazy sky]

it's really not though

Godot has to be one of the most straightforward engines I saw so far

[waxen plover]

i guess since i'm not familiar with it

[hazy sky]

if you need help with it, I'll gladly help

[waxen plover]

I appreciate that

have you ever used unity?

[hazy sky]

only for modding

[waxen plover]

what would you say themain differences between unity and godot is

[hazy sky]

the engine

godot is lightweight whereas unity is very heavy

usually godot is very fast, doesn't take a lot of space and is generally easier on your PC

[waxen plover]

I see

[dusky pivot]

I have learned about the existence of decal projection

This is so useful to spice up enviorments lol

[hazy sky]

decal projection as in adding in the greens?

[dusky pivot]

Yeah, its useful to add some sticks to the floor and those big chunks of green stuff

I also modeled some rusty fences I think I am happy with the result now

[azure flume]

wait, you modelled those fence holes instead of just putting a half transparent texture over a cube?

[dusky pivot]

No

Its a flat image yeah

But the borders are cubes

[azure flume]

phew

[dusky pivot]

I didnt do anything stupid right?...

[azure flume]

yeah this is fine

[dusky pivot]

Okay okay

Im still a begginer on all of this

[azure flume]

just getting flashbacks to some unimaginable horrors

[dusky pivot]

Oh god

[hazy sky]

starting to remind me a lot of the PS1 tomb raider games

[dusky pivot]

Im glad the visuals are at least in tune with the PS1 style lol

This cave thing has been trough 20 million reworks but it was worth the time

[hazy sky]

it looks appropriate for PS1, unlike my rendition

[dusky pivot]

Yours looks more like PS2 yeah

Where you aiming for PS1?

[hazy sky]

kinda

at first, it was very appropriate but i'm starting to stray too far

[dusky pivot]

That looks pretty nice damn

The fog is awesome

[hazy sky]

thanks man

it was more of a showcase on the audio side of things tho

trying to overlay different sounds to create a dynamic ambiance

like hearing the rain hit the trolley and stuff

[hazy sky]

being playful with the samples used for the original silent hill 2 soundtrack

[dusky pivot]

Yeah that is pretty good

Are you using Fmod?

[hazy sky]

fmod?

[dusky pivot]

Ok ig that means you are not

[hazy sky]

what is fmod

definitely gotta touch up the thing if i can find the samples and flp files

[dusky pivot]

audio editor that helps a lot with audio that changes a lot

[hazy sky]

changes a lot?

[dusky pivot]

It kinda handles audio logistics for you

Yeah, for example character footsteps

[hazy sky]

what do you mean changes a lot

like elaborate how do you mean change

do you mean it gets filters/processing and stuff?

or do you just generally mean alternating sounds/random pitch

[dusky pivot]

I dont know how to explain it my eng is not working properly right now

Either way its a good tool that I know how to use but unity does not agree with me and I cant make audio work in the game yet

[warm harbor]

silent hill spotted

im wondering if i should redownload my sod2 modder so i can make an entire Ultrakill themed community

[dusky pivot]

https://youtu.be/V-Sp4GREI5I

https://tenor.com/view/cat-asleep-falling-gif-25160070

[hazy sky]

testing out some stuff for one of the puzzle area's loops

@feral rapids is this any good

i have no ear for music

also some exploration music

[feral rapids]

im sorry for taking too late i was taking a shit that weighted like yo mama 😂

[hazy sky]

can you stfu

[feral rapids]

its nice but it kinda sounds like elevator music

[feral rapids]

you already told me youre a FIR fan

[hazy sky]

thats alright, its supposed to lighten the mood while solving a puzzle

[feral rapids]

yeah this is good

[hazy sky]

i just need to figure out where could i actually use it

wish i had the technical know-how to create these pads myself instead of relying on samples

[pure jackal]

Hey its That Gun

From Fallout New Vegas

[sudden imp]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-ryan-gosling-reading-dna-2049-gif-21503732

[hazy sky]

that gun in action

sadly its not as interactive as the rest

i was dumb and didn't model the flip-out cylinder

[hazy sky]

fixed the trigger

plus extra lights

really gotta make this gun shine

so fucking zexy,,,,,,,,,,,,,

oh btw here's the updated light

[pure jackal]

Why it bent like that

[hazy sky]

can't tell if you're ironic or not

[pure jackal]

Oh sticks

[limber bramble]

the flashlight broke his fall

[hazy sky]

I like the execution because the light glare and the flashlight cookie are all procedural textures made using gradients

[leaden walrus]

You can change the color of the light with those too. They are just super hard to turn on and off

[hazy sky]

wait what?

I never heard about that

[hazy sky]

i'm afraid it's first and foremost #ultrakill-modding, second, we don't deal with piracy here so ig you're outta luck

[toxic hemlock]

sis did u just admit to pirating a game in it's official discord

[hazy sky]

big ball energy

chat i want big questions answered

does anyone have ANY experience with writing AI behavior

i'm finally breaking down and starting to work on enemy AI

but i'm afraid maybe one solution might not be enough, i'll need fine grain control

behavior trees, or state machines?

[cerulean jungle]

technically you don't legally own any game you buy but i am going to have the money for it very soon

[cerulean jungle]

on steam at least

[hazy sky]

brother can you like, keep quiet

i hate people coming up with excuses saying "erm, achsually you don't own any game so me pirating is completely justified ☝️ 🤓"

just say you're piss poor and you wanna play anyways, that's a better, more understandable thing to process

[slender knoll]

.warn 1179922125570707540 Rule 8

[slim lance]

:o: Warned ralseitheprince#0 (Case #30662) (user notified with a direct message)

[slender knoll]

whatever your personal feelings are they are not to be discussed on a public discord server

[cerulean jungle]

ok

[slender knoll]

we dont care. just dont talk about it

[toxic hemlock]

lowkey agree but highkey shut the fuck up sis

[stiff thorn]

👏

[stiff thorn]

I mean if we're talking linear horror games I think a state machine is all you need

[hazy sky]

i'm talking fps game with enemies that can patrol and react to the player

[stiff thorn]

ah, right

I'd like to comment on it but I'm not working on anything complex with AI, so perhaps someone else can give advice

[toxic hemlock]

depends on the totality of what ur AI needs to do tbh

if they only rly need like 2-4 behaviors then a state machine should be just fine, if they gotta do a lot of different things and react to a ton of shit then maybe look into a behavior tree

Half-Life 1 and 2 get by just fine with state machines, FEAR and Halo used behavior trees to make their AI more reactive and alive

[tropic token]

Surprisingly common here

[dusky pivot]

https://youtu.be/WY-A_oGmqYw

A friend and I did this today for our game

[hazy sky]

tbh they'd have to partrol a set route each, play some idle animations every now and then, and when in combat, seek down the player, if in range and line of sight, take aim, fire, recalculate if next action is shooting again or change positions (take cover, go prone etc)

and also play out scripted events

[toxic hemlock]

thats basically just what hl2 npcs do

[hazy sky]

okay but this was done on Medal of Honor back in 1999 on PS1

also Godot 4.3 just added 3 new audio player nodes

interactive (you can mix, and merge audio with transitioning between two using clips

synchronized, like in nier automata where you have like 3 songs playing at the same time and you just crossfade between the versions as needs be

and playlist

that's actually huge

[waxen plover]

it's like when you wake up in the morning and you wanna pee

you try to twist it but it breaks

[leaden walrus]

yea, you can swap out different lenses on those on the front cap, with green yellow and red, and clear

[hazy sky]

oh I thought like button presses, that would have been cool but that also didn't exist at that time

[leaden walrus]

They are still fun to use

[dusky pivot]

Hi hi, Id like to ask for some feedback about this

https://youtu.be/LxXbn5Tm91w

Id like to know what do you guys think about the visuals, Im trying to aim for psx + some weird shaders (like the one for water), there is a VHS effect but its dissabled on the video wich makes water look a little bit off so keep that in mind

Does this seem like enough level of detail? or should I add more (like, more assets to decorate the scene with)

There is plans for adding fog and generally more visual effects for the rain event too

[hazy sky]

I'll be honest with you, people often underestimate the PS1 in terms of detail

a proper AAA PSX title was chock full of detail, albeit the texture size and palette was limited, and so were the polygons

if you want a cool PS1 game to compare graphics to, try 40 Winks, Medievil, Urban Chaos, Codename Tenka or Medal of Honor

these games often utilize multiple textures where two different surfaces like stone and grass mix together and etc

that is if you wish for true PS1 aesthetics

also using the vertex colors to it's full potential by either baking lighting or ambient occlusion into it

otherwise your game needs some post processing, some fog and atmospherics and it's good to go

it just looks more like an old DOS game rn than PS1 if you don't mind me saying that

[hazy sky]

oh also the FPS 007 game or the fifth element game, and also small soldiers because in my book it's still peak fantasy both visually and audio wise

btw if anyone needs tips on this topic just @ me 🤙

I don't want to gatekeep good graphics

especially since it doesn't take that much more effort

[dusky pivot]

Oh yeah the game does need a lot of visual stuff yet

Thats why I mentilnes that I was looking specificly about feedback with the level of detail for decoratiom assets

[stiff thorn]

Will keep that in mind bro, I've got something in the oven I wanna show soon to all you amazing people in this chat

[hazy sky]

also for more definition, you could try smooth shading your flat shaded things here and there

it goes a long way, especially for terrain

[dusky pivot]

Whats that

[hazy sky]

hard surface like concrete and metal is okay, but grass and dirt paths should not be sharp

[hazy sky]

one sec

flat shading

smooth shading

[dusky pivot]

I think I like flat shading more

[hazy sky]

you don't have to use it everywhere

that's what can make it look unique

this is PS1 graphics

notice how there are "shadows" while using vertex colors, and how they utilized the sharp shading on the edges while the round cylinder under him is shaded smoothly

and the transitional textures between two "materials"

my all time favorite in terms of PS1 graphics will always be Spyro

this night scene looks so good

shows you that art direction and style can stop the aging of your graphics by a lot

i'd love to see a wireframe mode of the topology though, that always fascinates me

[dry spear]

https://vxtwitter.com/billybob_c10781/status/1864367421722640654

[dry spear]

https://youtu.be/HyGmHCkogGk?si=D2ysQVJFg91FicZP

for you guys using unity

[hazy sky]

chat how weird would it look for enemies to be animated at 30 frames a second as opposed to more fluid animations

[feral ermine]

Would the player be the same?

[limber bramble]

what is the benefit

[hazy sky]

yes

[hazy sky]

art style

comically fast pistol

the beretta's sound is oddly satisfying at higher RPM's

[pure jackal]

I think I animated the dudes at 30?

[earnest lily]

I'm guessing he means stepped / no interpolation / " all jerky n shit "

[hazy sky]

yea no interpolation

[unique trellis]

after a lil mental health break I'm finally getting back into working on the tutorial

[waxen plover]

scrapped player model

[dusky pivot]

Aparently that is considered spamming, sorry

Uhm, id like to ask about a little bit of feedback here

Are this visuals easy to read? or like, easy to understand on the eyes

Do you guys know whats going on when looking at them

[hazy sky]

it's missing some shading, things flow into each other but otherwise it looks good

[dusky pivot]

Yeah I need to dive into shading

Any tips for that?

[hazy sky]

what engine

you could go for fake ambient occlusion or screen space

or some minor directional light

distinct lack of shadows

[hazy sky]

to be honest I would bake ambient occlusion onto the level's vertex colors

that's cheap and easy, and it seriously doesn't require much thought performance-wise and it looks better than screen space

[noble umbra]

Hey you, I know you and your project. One of my friends is going absolutely rabid about it.

[noble umbra]

They're easy enough to read and I really dig what you're doing here. Is this an actual ongoing project or just fidgeting around?

[hazy sky]

as they should, slowly but surely it's building up nicely

I still find it unbelievable to have some sort of following like that and I guess i should really make a discord for it

[noble umbra]

You definitely should if that makes communication easier.

Any ideas for platforms that it's releasing on?

[hazy sky]

for now, PC because I know that Godot can export to it

the rest depends on how well it comes out, how well it is received and if there's demand for other platforms

[noble umbra]

Yeah that makes sense.

I did see that reloads are apparently not visually animated, is this a WIP thing or will weapons be reloaded off screen?

[dusky pivot]

I already have it but it might not be enough, Ill play around with shadows and stuff like that today thanks for the tips

[dusky pivot]

Its an entire videogame yes

Im glad you like it <:

[noble umbra]

Nice, what's it about? As spoiler free as possible.

[dusky pivot]

:3

[noble umbra]

Fishing game, nice.

[dusky pivot]

There is a cool twist to it not just fishing

But cant spoil it

[noble umbra]

Sounds scary.

[dusky pivot]

:)

[hazy sky]

big guns will be reloaded normally while pistols just off screen reloads mostly

[noble umbra]

Huh, alright. Makes sense to spare resources on the pistols.

[merry lotus]

gone fishing 2......

[hazy sky]

nah it's just a stylistic choice, the base animation is the same, but the weapon Will behave differently

with the revolver reload, the top break breaks open, the magazine fed semi auto pistol locks the slide back if empty reloading and closes when reloaded, and the mauser for example has the stripper clip fall out after reloading

so there's always some extra flavor despite sharing animations

[noble umbra]

Oh yeah I saw that. I was just wondering why it didn't happen on the screen.

[hazy sky]

the only thing I can say is, my reference for the game is Medal of Honor and it's sequel, and it looks like this in there. in order to be a spiritual modern successor, I feel like this love letter has to give credit where credit is due

plus I like it this way, I don't want to create like overly detailed animations as it would go against the artistic vision

[noble umbra]

Hey anything that makes it feel familiar is another bonus imo.

I do know many games did it back in the day when they had like a ton of weapons.

[hazy sky]

forgot to mention that I'm adding modding support, and I made a weapon framework that even though I don't use, is there for custom weapons

[noble umbra]

Oho-

Nice.

[hazy sky]

so if someone feels like they want to add something, it's always possible

[noble umbra]

Don't forget mod dashboard integration then.

[hazy sky]

let it be custom maps, campaigns or weapons

[noble umbra]

The Steam Workshop is perfect for that stuff.

[hazy sky]

also custom HUDS

[hazy sky]

exactly

this is still far into the future though, I still need to work on other stuff though and the problem is that they're not getting done,,,,, on the other hand I have like 6 more weapons since the last update video

I have a fucking ARSENAL here

[noble umbra]

Can't wait to see MoH: AA and Pacific Assault being remade in your project by a modder with too much coffee.

[noble umbra]

Ooo loving that one.

[hazy sky]

not sure about those, however they're not too different in terms of gameplay

I'm waiting for the eventually timesplitters 2 remake in Godot using my framework

[noble umbra]

Honestly if your game is modular enough, I can imagine a madlad doing it. Hell, someone remade Project: I.G.I. in Far Cry 5 and CS2.

[hazy sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431185291831803904/1288605463876730891/Legion_of_Honor_DEBUG_2024-09-25_22-57-24.mp4?ex=67540e1b&is=6752bc9b&hm=014fd7b54f0c377f8d5605c0384da0392beba34feed63bb9c26ba3481eec51ab&

[noble umbra]

I love that FG42.

[spare scarab]

what's that gun from

[hazy sky]

timesplitters 2

ripped and recreated

drag and drop solution as well

I added a selector for reload types

[noble umbra]

I do have to ask, is the FG42's scope omitted for balance reasons or because you just don't like it with one?

[hazy sky]

I just don't fw it, I might add it later as it literally takes like 30 minutes to do, I can just pop it on top and select the aiming type to be scoped and it'll handle the rest

[hazy sky]

rn you have retro reloads (the goldeneye 64 lower gun) or dedicated, dedicated means you have to specify the animation player through code though but it's just a single line of code for reference

[noble umbra]

I love that we can customise that so easily.

[hazy sky]

hey, it makes my job easier as well

I also added functions that can be used to call other stuff within the animation itself so you can further add stuff if you feel like it's something you need

[noble umbra]

Such as a scope on an FG42, basically.

[hazy sky]

like for example the Beretta checks DURING the animation if the slide should lock back

[noble umbra]

Oh that's pretty cool.

[hazy sky]

nah that's simply pop a scope model on top, flavor it as you'd like and select "scoped" as the aiming type

the recoil is entirely procedural so

plus you have the aim() function, you can add a lot of stuff into it as well

PLUS you have 3 aiming styles, retro (goldeneye/timesplitters/moh), scoped, and special. for the special, you could basically add secondary fire, or make ADS, or anything

fire selector, anything

[noble umbra]

So from what I'm getting is that you can essentially tweak weapons by just swapping out some lines rather easily?

[hazy sky]

the base code handles a lot of things by itself so you can just customize it within the editor itself

[noble umbra]

Very useful.

[hazy sky]

that too, but the overall code is made so tweaking small things is easy

[noble umbra]

Feels kind of like a mix and match style that'd be useful for different weapon behaviours.

Very convenient if you have aspirations to make mods based on different franchises or genres.

Cough AVP2 cough.

[hazy sky]

from the gun name, to the gun damage, to the bullet type (kinetic, energy, or hitscan), bullet speed, recoil, visual recoil, firing mode (single, burst, auto), time between bursts, gun RPM, burst count, pellet count, if the gun can melee or not, the crosshair, animation speeds, bullet ricochet chance and how many times can a bullet ricochet, etc etc

it's VERY robust tbh

down to the minute detail like the view model sway when walking, or idle

or the camera recoil

you have 3 types of recoil, weapon inaccuracy (handled with a slider), the gun itself since the bullet fires from the barrel physically, and camera (visual only)

what else am I missing

oh, tracer color, size and length as well

[noble umbra]

I wonder, do the weapons as is fire hitscan or are they projectiles?

[hazy sky]

AND how far bullets can go before despawning

[hazy sky]

projectiles

[noble umbra]

Based.

[hazy sky]

well, a mix of both

I use a ray cast to determine the target and it's position so the bullets can point towards it

AND the bullets ARE small ray casts that move through space one step every physics frame

oh, yeah and also you can set weapons to be explosive, the explosion size and scale, as well as damage too

[noble umbra]

Mods in Scarab Gun.

[hazy sky]

which is funny seeing the shotgun spray panzerfaust explosions

[noble umbra]

LOL

Multigrenade launcher.

[hazy sky]

also these are only the guns, I want a modular character controller as well

but using Godot's node system as modules to swap out movement behavior

so you could make a quake style movement if needed

[noble umbra]

Would it be possible to adjust the parameters in real time while in game?

Ie: script a character to move slower due to a seizure/shellshock etc?

[hazy sky]

you can actually do that

like it's not hard tbh, but I could just write it into the base movement handler

like slow amount and have the slow value just either subtract or halve or stuff

that's not something that I looked into yet though

I made a cool armor script for the player though that I personally will not use in the main campaign, but you can set max armor, armor and armor absorption rate

so an absorb rate of 100% will direct ALL damage to the armor until it runs out, and sends the remaining damage to health if it runs out in the meantime, or make it 50% so the armor only mitigated 50% of the damage, the rest is health damage

it's a modifiable thing as well, in 25% increments

[noble umbra]

Is there a script in place to make it regenerate?

Might be useful for more sci fi oriented mods.

[hazy sky]

well guess that will be an option now

I see what you're aiming for, master chief

[noble umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-master-chief-i-need-a-weapon-weapon-weapons-gif-18674787

[hazy sky]

I'll make toggles for both health and armor regens, their rates and the delay

[hazy sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-25666227

[noble umbra]

I think it's my lack of roles that prevents embeds.

[hazy sky]

you thought right

you'll get a role soon tho

just keep chatting

I need to make a game rule global script that can toggle these for the player though

[noble umbra]

Yeah I'm thinking of starting my own projects but to start out, I'd prefer modding something modular first to get a bead on it.

[hazy sky]

well, I didn't think I'd go full modular either

[noble umbra]

I mean, sounds modular enough to me.

[hazy sky]

my shit was set in stone before flipping to "hmm, would be cool if I exposed these settings to the engine"

[noble umbra]

Lol

Fair.

[hazy sky]

and here we are, exporting everything that I feel like

it's not that hard either

[noble umbra]

I'm getting into the 'fuck it, I'll do it myself' phase for certain games.

[hazy sky]

like this sounds like a lot, but it really is not

[hazy sky]

what kinda game you have in mind?

[noble umbra]

Well it's kind of ambitious, but I've always wanted to make a PS1 styled open world game with dinosaurs. That's the final goal so I'll be going with much simpler games first.

[hazy sky]

trespasser but good

[noble umbra]

Trespasser but you're dropped into the world alone or with up to 4 friends.

[hazy sky]

yea I feel that,,,,

I want to add 2 player coop too

[noble umbra]

Yeah the catch is, if you don't pick the same character, you'll end up on a different side of the map because the campaign has a different intro depending on the person you're playing.

[hazy sky]

THAT is actually something I wanted as well

where having a second player would add more content

not in every level per say, but yea

[noble umbra]

Oh yeah that definitely sounds fun, but it seems like a lot of work too.

[hazy sky]

not really, or at least not yet

that will depend on the map and it's scope

[noble umbra]

Like my idea was to stick to the main game's plot in a decently uniform manner, but the intro's different like Cyberpunk.